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He is in control

03-01-2011, 08:00

Lesley76...it's nice seeing your response. Ours is highly unexplained as FS confirmed everything is fine, I did all tests except laparoscopy, FS thinks there is no need for that as all other tests and questions asked suggested I'm fine in that area.

AF is due to arrive today, it usually comes around 11am so i'm waiting for her ugly face so I can start my clomid tablets tomorrow. I will be on 50mg of Clomid for 5 days and that is just to give ovulation a helping hand and probably shorten my 32 day cycle.

We've also been advised to do IUI x3 before moving to IVF if that doesnt work.

Yay for your capability, it's re-assuring to know you've been there before and you guys can do it again, I think that is a plus for you guys.
DH and I have never been pregnant and never impregnated, so we are in Limbo land but the heaps of tests revealed we are both fine, like FS said, we only need to give nature a helping hand.

We are hoping to have bub latest by December 2011, also hoping IUI does the trick eventhough the statistics isn't encouraging, anyway, if it doesn't, then we will be doing IVF by March/April.

I'm having AF cramps, not too bad anyway, but I know she's close by.

I hope you are not getting too much side effects from the puregon injections, what does puregon do? are you on clomid as well? I'm just wondering why FS didn't give me puregon. When is your scan/next appointment?

Arrggghhh!!! Work starts in full swing tomorrow...arrrghh! do you work full time like me?

He is in control

04-01-2011, 07:52

Lesley...bet you're fine today. Poor AF didn't show up yesterday as I expected, she's such a naughty girl, when you want her to come early so you can get things started is when she slows down. Other times when you dont want to see her ugly face, she shows up, I had cramps all through yesterday plus night time but its all gone this morning and still no AF but I still feel in my body that she's around the corner, it's day 34 today :banghead2:. I really cant wait to get started with my drugs and move on with my life. Will keep you posted dear.

Yeah, I will surely ask FS about Puregon if my first cycle on Clomid + IUI is unsucessful. I just turned 29 about 2 weeks ago but I have just read online that Puregon is far more effective than Clomid, will give it a go on my 2nd cycle.

Yay for you working only 3-4 days, I wish (lol), I know how hard it would be if one has to work full time and then do IVF, lets not worry about that for now, we will take it one day at a time, hopefully our TTC journey will be brief and sweet.

Fs wants me to see him on day 9 of my cycle for scan etc and then a date for the insemination, I guess day 9 would be sometime next week as I'm still waiting on day 1 to show up, it sucks to carry pads everywhere in fear of Af showing up in the middle of the road.

Aiight, let me know how you go with your appointment today, I'm keeping everything crossed for you that the injections have done their part and your body is doing what it is meant to do. You should know the insemination date after your appointment today. Yes:yes:

:fingerscrossed: for updates from you later today. Much love and :hugs:.

See yah!

He is in control

05-01-2011, 07:47

Hey lesley, good on you for having those ovulation signs, it's a plus that the puregon is doing its job. :fingerscrossed: that follies have developed well enough so you can have your IUI done later this week.

Yes I know the bloatedness sucks and I do know how you feel emotionally with those fertility medications, never mind, here's a good place to vent and let out the emotions, we are in the same boat.

I always experience O pains in my right ovary each month but I bet it will be more significant this cycle beacuse of the Clomid.

Yeah, AF eventually showed her ugly face just after my last post yesterday and I'm now on day 2, I will start my Clomid tabs tonight and then I will book an appointment with FS for day 9...next week.

Let me know how you go with the US. I'm praying and hoping this cycle brings you good luck.

Baby pebbles to you lovey:hugs:

He is in control

06-01-2011, 07:49

Hi Lesley...it's good you have 2 big follies, and 16mm is a good measurement so you are good to go.:gl:, I hope this cycle brings you the much expected miracle. :iagree:that a new cycle brings fresh new hope for greater things and with medications etc, I feel really grateful too.

I have just started the clomid pill popping last night and it goes on for 5 days. No side effects currently. I have also booked an appointment with the clinic for my US etc on day 9, that will be Weds 12th Jan. I'm keeping everything crossed that the 50mg clomid would do the right thing and follies will be fine by then.

I know its weird that follies are well developed on day 10ish when naturally you'd have a 32 day cycle, it shows the puregon has been good, I hope for the same luck with clomid:impatient:

I really don't know when the IUI will be until my next US and I hope yours goes well this week, :fingerscrossed: it wont be painful, I know its our very first IUI and all we need is to stay positive that this first one pays off for us.

I'm also happy that I have a buddy who is some steps ahead of me this cycle because I get all the tips and clues from you...:cheerleader1:

I'ld keep my :fingerscrossed: for a detailed explanation of how the whole IUI thing goes for you.

My clinic is charging $1000.00 for the IUI cycle plus all scans/US and $150 ish for the sperm preparation, I hope there wont be additional costs.:confused:

How much is your clininc charging and what's your insurance covering?
How's your DF going and how's your mood now?

He is in control

07-01-2011, 07:52

Lesley:hugs:, I'm happy everything is progressing fine for you and like I said, I pray for the same luck, will find out next week. Thank God your trigger shot was nice and easy, I have heard a lot of complaints regarding that, I think your body just co-operates well each time you need it to:highfive:.
Poor DF of yours has to do his usual business in a jar this cycle...lol, that's the least they can do anyway, I know how emotional it can be but then I know for sure that he will eb fine and you guys will laugh it off eventually.

Today is the day and all I can wish and pray for you is heaps of baby dusts and sticky one at that. Fertility drugs are known to blow up the tummy and make people look pg but it doesn't matter, you will be pg soon anyway. It sucks when people ask if you are pregnant when actually you are not, how embarassing can that be, anyway, its all worth the stress if we ever get asked that question. You will be fine and the nausea will soon disappear.

Remind yourself each time that good nutrition is important after the insemination. Just give it all you can and :fingerscrossed: that this month will bring you your much expected :babydust1:The tears/crying are necessary at times, I do it often too especially at the onset of my period. We will get over this and soon it will be history.

DH is coping really well with my mood swings and emotional rollercoaster, he is handling it really well.

Alright, enough bla bla bla, come on 11.00am today and bring good vibes for Lesley. Let me know how it goes and take enough rest afterwards if need be.:hugs: Happy for you dear:hyper:

He is in control

08-01-2011, 21:42

Hi Lesley:cheerleader1:, I'm happy its all done and you are now in for the longest 2ww ever, I hoping and praying this month works fine with BFP news on the 21st of January.:goodvibes:

25 million is great I think, DF deserves a drink for bringing on such great number of swimmers:highfive: to him...lol
Yay for medicare paying 85% back, that's some good news worth celebrating.

I really wish we were in the 2ww together but our cycles are totally different, infact I think my own 2ww will be starting more than mid way through yours, anyway, like I said earlier on, its good I have all the tips from a buddy who has been through it:cheerleader2:

Clomid has been fine so far so good, no side effects at all, I'm just hoping its working well in body, will find out next Weds.

Zumba/Yoga...that's good on you dear:highfive:, would like to do that too, about how much do you think I would need for that and how effective is it? Also, I hope it wont affect anything as we are actively TTC. I would suggest you take some days off the Zumba thing to allow the embryo (I'm believing there's one in there already) to snuggle in really well before stressing out.

Have fun this weekend dear and remember to take everything easy. :fingerscrossed: this is our month of :celebrate:tion.
Sleepy now...love yah!

He is in control

11-01-2011, 18:02

Hi Lesley...Thanks for checking on us. DH and I are doing fine, our offices have both been evacuated in anticipation of the flood, we got home really early today :hyper:.

As the floods have been predicted to hit the Brisbane CBD tomorrow, we are now filled with fear that the FS clinic will not open for business tomorrow, I just pray and hope they will be there to attend to anxious me:freakingout:. Will ring up the clinic first thing tomorrow to confirm if my day 9 scan will still hold as scheduled, I really can't wait to find out where we are as per follies.

Hope you are coping fine with the 2ww, was a bit worried when I ddnt hear a word from you since last Friday but I think I know deep inside me that you are fine.

You just take care and keep taking charge of this rollercoaster phase, it will soon be over dear:hugs:.

We are keeping everything crossed that the floods will not take more lives, for now, our suburb is safe and we are fine.

All my love...

He is in control

12-01-2011, 18:14

Hey Lesley...How are you going today? Its hard being home alone in the 2ww isnt it? Sowie:wave:

Yep, I managed to get to the clinic today and I was just lucky enough to see the FS as all offices in the CBD are closed down. Anyway, no much to report as follies have decided not to grow beyond 11mm. Fs did explain that 50mg of clomid was little but he had to start with that as I have never been on fertility drugs and he didnt want to risk OHSS.

According to the FS, nothing much is happening on the left ovary but the right ovary has 2 follies both of which are between 11mm to 12mm. FS said not to worry as I naturally have long cycles and he wasnt surprised to see what he saw.

Next action: 2nd scan on Monday 17th January to check growth of follies. FS said if no significant difference in size by Monday then he will change the course of treatment and have me on injectables. He did say the injectables are better at driving the ovaries to produce mature folicles bla bla bla.

It was a bit of a bummer for me as I thought the actual IUI will be done on Monday but its now not to be. Anyway, no great surprises as I didnt get any of the reported side effects that girls get from clomid, I was thinking the drug was not working fine about 2 days ago as I was searching for signs of side effects.

:freakingout:right now, I'm just taking it one day at a time. Just keep everything crossed for me for good news on Monday. I will let you know dear.

Cheers and enjoy your 2ww, you are almost half way done dear :hugs:. You might even be testing and getting your BFP when I'm just kicking off with my own 2ww sometime later.

Have fun honey.

He is in control

13-01-2011, 08:11

Lesley...how's the booster shot going? Yayy for DF helping you with the injects, I think its much better to have him do it than have it done yourself. I will be doing the same and I'm certain DH will be happy to stab me with the needles...lol

Clomid is only taken for 5 days each cycle and its all over now, I had it on day 2 to day 6. I will be asking FS if he is happy to prescribe pregnyl for me as well:fingerscrossed:.

Nothing is happening, just hoping and prayinng that the IUI gets done towards the end of next week:fingerscrossed:

Weather is fine, not too bad in my suburb but my office area is a little bit affected by the floods, no work today as all roads leading to CBD are blocked.

Any cramps still? I'm keeping all my fingers and heart crossed for you. You are close, when will you be POASing? have you figured out your testing date yet?

Thoughts.

He is in control

16-01-2011, 01:01

My Lesley...how are you going this weekend and how was the blood test? Anything yet? It might be too early to detect anything anyway. Now you are on to 1ww :celebrate:. 24th is just around the corner:fingerscrossed:.

:thumbsdown: for the constipation. I'm very used to feeling bloated anyway as constipation is part of my life:freakingout:I have it every now and then, once something is disrupted in my system, the next thing is constipation, its my commonest reaction to most drugs, emotions and lifestyle changes, so you are not alone.

Nothing to report, just thought I would jump in to say hello and see if you've had the test results already.

Will update you after my appointment on Monday.

All my love...

He is in control

18-01-2011, 07:40

Hey Lesley, how are you going today? I know how you feel when you said you do not feel like going back to work after getting used to the stay at home thing...what can we do? We've got to work to make ends meet.

Yay! for your last shot of pregnly plus the high progesterone level, please remain positive and keep your heart open for the best. I guess this time next week you'ld know for sure that emby is developing fine. I really wish you luck dear.

Well, follies haven't developed in size so FS gave me Puregon 50mg right away and I had the 2nd shot this morning. It was nice and easy, DH was happy to stab me with the needles.

I'm booked in for another scan on Friday 21st to see what's going on, I'm just hoping there would be significant changes by then as my body has decided to resist Clomid.

May be, just may be the IUI will be sometime next week, will let you know when I'm sure. I predicted right when I said your 2ww might be over before mine starts.

Cheers babe!

prettydino

18-01-2011, 21:32

Hello ladies,

I'm wondering if I can join in your thread. I've lurking on this forum for a while and finally decided to register with the site tonight.

I'm with CFC in Brisbane too.

Also starting on this journey. And it's wonderful to see the mutual support around!:)

He is in control

19-01-2011, 08:08

Hi Prettydino:wave:....welcome welcome welcome:smiliedance: We are happy to have you on this thread, like my Lesley76 said "the more the merrier". Now we need to have your history, make it long Ok, tell us everything that has happened, what is happening right now and what the next step is.

I am with CFC too and I'm really having fun with the clinic. Dr Das is my FS . Who is your specialist and what stage of the treatment are you now, what type of treatment, OI,IUI,IVF etc, let us know everything. Its easier when you have people in the same shoes to talk to, I've found the journey easier ever since I joined the BH forum so here's hoping you find yourself really relaxed and confortabl eon BH. Welcome dear:hugs:You can go back to the 1st page on this thread so you know how far we've gone and where we are up to at the moment.

Lesly76...Darl', how was work yesterday, hope you are getting used to work again gradually. I agree with you that you need a good distraction for the next couple of days leading to your test. Monday is just around the corner and we will :celebrate: Are you feeling anything or are you refusing to pay attention to any signs? Its not easy I know, take your mind off it as much as you can. All the best darl.

All my love.

prettydino

19-01-2011, 10:21

Hi girls,

I'm 35 and my husb is 34. Essentially even though I'd been married for about 13 years or so, I put off childbearing because of work and study commitments. Finally finished all my professional study commitments in 2009 and decided to TTC. Nothing happened.

It's been rather frustrating too because I know part of the reason is our rather infrequent "nocturnal activity". We are often too tired to do the necessary deed after work! Both husb and I work fulltime and have to travel long distances to get to work, so by the time we get home, we're both whacked out!

Anyway, decided to seek professional help.

As far as I know, my health is good. My periods are regular and I don't seem to have any troubling symptoms that might signify PCOS or endometriosis. My husb had a test too and his counts are fine. Neither of us have had children before or been pregnant.

So the good old doc suggested trying IUI first. I went on clomid end of Nov last year and had one IUI, which wasn't successful. Wow. I was quite unprepared for the amount of commitment required to prepare for an iui! What with running to the doc's office for ultrasounds everyday, remembering to take tablets, getting poor husb to the lab with his "donation" on time, etc, my head was all in a tizzy. And all this running around certainly isn't conducive to work. I had to call in all my favours to get time off.

Had a break in Jan because the doc was away, so I'm waiting for my next AF so I can restart clomid again and prepare for the second round. no side effects with clomid thankfully.

I think the doc's game plan is to do 3 iuis and then consider a laparoscopy, which I'm not keen on because I scar very badly (with horrible keloids) and I'm pretty sure it'll be normal, and then IVF after if the iuis don't work.

It's all quite confronting. :confused: And I have stabs of low self-esteem every now and then. But really I'm trying to be philosophical about it all.

My inlaws are quite good about it, but I know they are burning with desire for a grandchild. Unfortunately, my MIL keeps talking about it which irks me a fair bit. I wish I could tell her to zip up, but a chinese daughter in law simply does not tell her MIL to shut up. So I'll just have to bear it.

I love the comraderie in this forum. I'm thankful you're letting me share.:)

Hope you both experience success this year. This is the year of the Rabbit on the chinese horoscope, which is meant to be a sign of good fortune. Pray it brings good tidings for all of us!:celebrate:

samhannola76

19-01-2011, 12:46

Hi Everyone

I have just been reading this forum and thought I'd join in if thats OK. I am also in the unexplained infertility boat although I have been pregnant twice. First pregnancy ended with Still birth and second in MC. We aren't really sure what the story is. Nothing wrong with either of us. I had a laparoscopy in 2009 and only found mild endo so nothing to really worry about. I'm starting to think that we need some help.

Are you able to give me some more info on IUI? What do you need to do, costs etc. I live in Regional Victoria so I'll have to travel to the city for it but I'm not overly worried unless I have to spend days there at a time.

Any advice/info would be most appreciated and hopefully we can give each other support on this roller coaster ride!

cheers
Sam

prettydino

19-01-2011, 22:23

Hello Samhannola76,

Welcome.

I'm new to this journey myself.

I'm not a fertility expert so I'm not sure I can give you reliable advice. But there should be lots of information on the internet. The Queensland Fertility Group explains it briefly, I think.

IUI is essentially a procedure that bypasses the process of intercourse. For me, I took a medication to stimulate the growth of ovarian follicles. Close to ovulation time, I had to go and get ultrasounds everyday in order to monitor the number and growth progression of these follicles. Too many and the cycle is aborted, because high-multiple pregnancies are high risk. Once they reached a certain size, I had to inject myself with a medication that would cause the eggs to be released. Around the same time, your partner would have to have his contribution "washed" down and purified. This sample would then be inserted into your womb, but the process for us women is basically like a Pap smear.

So really, it's a timed introduction of sperm into the womb so that there will hopefully be CONTACT!

The rates of success are pretty much like a couple trying to conceive naturally, Internet figures tend to be around 10 to 25 % success rate.

If there is some structural problem, like blocked tubes, then IUI isn't going to work.

I think the costs are quite individual, depending on the practice, but you can get something back from Medicare, probably worth checking with them. I think the practice charges somewhere between $1000 to $1500, with a bit extra for the processing of sperm.

Please correct me if I'm not right.

He is in control

20-01-2011, 08:15

Lesley...Good to know you are kicking in fine with work and yay for 4 more sleeps until your preg. test, I really can't wait to have you announce your BFP. My heart goes out to you darl:hugs:

Pretty...Welcome once again and thanks for sharing your story. It's a bit of a long journey for you but I hope and pray your stay on BubHub is nice and short.

I know how you feel with work commitments and IUI procedure, it's horrible dear. I often take a few hours off work every now and then just to keep up with the appointments.

What dosage of Clomid are you on? Clomid didn't do much trick for me as the ovarian follicles didn't respond well to Clomid (50mg), FS eventually had to put me on Puregon Injects (50mg) and my next scan/BT is scheduled for Friday 21st January. I'm hoping there would be significant changes by then, I'm currently on CD17 and the actual insemination date isn't confirmed yet. I have a pretty long cycle anyway, naturally, I would ovulate on CD18 or CD19 but the size of the follicle wasn't impressive on CD14 which is why FS switched to Puregon.:freakingout:

In-laws and event our own parents definitely have no idea how bad we feel when they talk about having children but I guess they are just badly wanting grand children, they should relax, we will give them soon:yes:

What day of your cycle are you on now and how many mg of Clomid will you be taking?
What's your profession if you don't mind? Mine is Insurance and this is the busiest period in the industry because of the floods etc but I'm keeping up fine.

Sam:highfive:...Welcome on board and sorry for your past experiences:hugs: I pray the next BFP sticks really well and you have a happy and healthy 9 months pregnancy with a lovely bub to hold and love after all:yes:

Pretty and Lesley have given you all the information you need to have about IUI, whatever I say now will only be a repetition. You can however find more info on google if that is Ok. I think you should consider seeing your FS who will be able to say if IUI will be good for you.

We are so happy to have you on this forum and we are happy to answer all questions and listen to you whenever you need to vent, we are all in the same shoes and are willing to walk this rather uncertain TTC journey together.

Lesley darl...how good is it to have 2 more babes join this thread which you kickstarted.

I will fill you girls in after my appointment with FS tomorrow, I'm keeping :fingerscrossed: till then.

Throwing heaps of baby pebbles to you all :babydust1:

All my love

prettydino

20-01-2011, 20:24

Hello ladies,

I think I should be about to see evidence of AF very soon. My cycle is usually very short, around 21 to 24 days. For my first iui, I was on 50mg of clomid a day and had ovestrel as a trigger. I had 2 follicles about 16 and 17mm each, both on the right ovary.

I had to sit the second month out as my gynae was away during the festive season. Now here's the weird part. When I rang the clinic to find out what to do after realising that the iui wasn't successful, the lady manning the phone (don't know if she was a nurse or something) told me I should still take the clomid anyway, even though I wasn't going to have an iui that month. Stupid me, I did as I was told and then realised that perhaps I shouldn't have. I didn't have any problems at all but on hindsight, if fertilisation did happen naturally, I could have had a large multiple, couldn't I, without being monitored by ultrasound? I won't be doing that again in a hurry until I see the doc again.

Now here's where I sheepishly:rolleyes: admit that I myself am a doctor. But my knowledge of obstetrics and gynaecology is pretty much limited to what I learnt in my medical school days, and what we learnt was pretty basic stuff so that we could manage in the ER. All this stuff about fertility is pretty specialised material, so I'm as much in the dark as the lay person would be. I guess the only advantage, is that I can probably understand a lot more of the drug leaflets that come with the meds. I work predominantly with the elderly these days, so fertility is no longer an issue.

I guess where fertility is concerned, all women are quite similar. You get so obsessed/possessed by it that you'll listen to any sort of advice.

I'm at a bit of a limbo at the moment. When I rang the office again to make an appointment, the receptionist again (!) said I should take the same dose of clomid again, and make an appointment for Day 9 as soon as AF rears her ugly head. Should I do that or should I make a small fuss and insist on speaking with the doc himself first? I can't help wondering if he might want to change the dose or med or something.:confused:

He is in control

21-01-2011, 22:18

Hi Lesley, Pretty, Sam:hugs:...I hope you girls are all travelling well.

Pretty...:iagree:I agree with Lesley's suggestion regarding your next IUI cycle, who knows if the person you've been speaking with is only a receptionist. Moreover, most FS will try something new/different for subsequent cycles, they just cant put you on the exact same dosage and do the exact thing they did in November. I would be calling the clinic to schedule an appointment with the FS just to be sure everything is done right and you have better chances this cycle. You can also ring and request to speak with your FS, you have the right to speak with him directly so that shouldn't be a problem. Please do something fast before AF shows :goodluck: dear and keep us posted.

Lesley:cheerleader1:...things have changed since I switched to Puregon, scan today revealed 2 follicles, one at 16mm and the other at 15mm with one other follicle at 9mm ish. FS was happy with the significant difference and advised that he would love at least 1 of them to be about 20mm in size, I got really angry with that as I've been waiting all my life to have the insemination done:freakingout:. He then said I should be ready for the insemination next week, he wants me in for another scan on Tuesday arvo and he said by then I should have 17mm to 18mm, if that is the case then the insemination will be on Thursday, I'm just hoping these follies will do me proud and grow to at least 17mm by then:fingerscrossed:

This is the longest cycle in my entire life and I just cant wait to be in the 2ww. FS explained that this cycle has been long because of the switch from Clomid, he reckons if I had started on Puregon on CD3 of my cycle (which is what he intends to do next if this cycle fails:no:), I would be in the 2ww by now but I'm ok with whatever time it takes as long as there is a :bfp: to follow:yes:.

I feel really bloated from the Puregon and I will still be on it till my next scan on Tuesday, I hope to have a final positive news on insemination date for you by then. Thanks for your love and support so far dear:hugs:Have fun this weekend and I will be praying that you get some fastastic news on Monday.

Pretty...a quick one for you here, are you with Dr Das at CFC Brisbane? I'm with him and he's such a great person, he also went on xmas holidays and that is why we didn't have a cycle in December. I wish you well lovey.

Sam...where are you darl, please respond and let us know how you are going. A brief history of your fertility journey will add some spice to this thread just as Pretty's story did. We all really love to have you on here:wave::hugs::highfive:

Aiight girls, have a really good good weekend and remember it will surely happen, we will all be pregnant and have healthy bubs pretty soon, just hang in there.

Oh my Lesley...won't sleep until you announce your :bfp:.

Thoughts...

prettydino

22-01-2011, 10:18

Hi girls,

H.I.I.C, I'm with Dr Ng in CFC Sunnybank. My GP sent me, I didn't have any particular preferences and certainly didn't know any gynaes myself. He's quite amusing. But often I can't help but wonder if docs and nurses tell me less or treat me differently once they know that I'm a doc myself. I don't want to be treated differently! I need information too!!

Well, looks like I've missed my chance this month. AF arrived today. A bit cross about it all. I'm going to point it out to Dr Ng that his receptionist shouldn't be giving advice over the phone, especially to stupid people like me who might just follow it! If I'd ignored that advice or been just that little bit more assertive, perhaps I might have gotten an earlier appointment and been able to act upon THIS cycle. As it turns out, I called Dr Ng's rooms yesterday, explained my situation and insisted they pass my message on to the doc. He rang back and told me he wanted to see me himself again to review our plan of attack for the next time. But the earliest appointment I could get is Feb 7th. Aaaargh. :cantbelieveit:More waiting...d*mn it.

H.I.I.C. Glad to hear your follies are behaving! Hope the side effects go away.

Lesley, good luck to you and I hope success is just around the corner!

Sam, good luck on your journey too!
:cheerleader1:

He is in control

23-01-2011, 18:39

Hi everyone...I hope your weekend is going fine.

Pretty...:hugs:for AF showing up, :fingerscrossed: that the next cycle will be yours to hit the egg, plus who knows if this natural cycle is the one that brings you the much expected BFP.

It's a good thing you rang the FS and he returned your call, that sounds good and like I said earlier, he would want to do something differently for the next IUI round.

I've heard Dr Ng is good, my GP wanted to refer me to him but the distance from home / work is much for me so he referred me to Dr Das on Wickham Tce.

Feb 7th isn't as far as you think, with your busy schedule, it should come really quickly, I know most FS are usaully very busy and easily booked up, here's hoping you get a new and better game plan when you get to see him.

Feel free to ask him questions and make suggestions too since you guys are in the same profession, it won't hurt to give your own ideas if you think they are not telling you enough. Funny enough, my FS never gives me too much info too, I've always had to ask him series of prepared questions which he is always happy to explain to DH and I very well.

I read on bubhub that the the follicle has to be 18mm for the egg to be viable, how true is that dear? Just asking your opinion as you are now my online GP...lol

AFM...I'm getting a little bit worried for this cycle girls, this is because I naturally ovulate on CD18 or CD19 and now I'm on CD20 and FS thinks the IUI will be done next Thursday CD24...that is really confusing as I think with the Clomid and Puregon I should have ovulated earlier than a natural cycle.

I would not have been bothered if not for the post Ovulation signs I started experiencing since yesterday. Quite sore (.) (.) which I normaly feel about 2DPO, I had a scan on Friday CD18 and I saw the follies myself and FS did not say anything about ovulating naturally before the insemination:no:

I know the Puregon might be playing pranks with my boobs but I can't help but think 'is it possible to ovulate before my next scan and will the FS know on my next appointment if I had ovulated naturally'?

Anyway, if you girls have an answer for me, I would be at peace till Tuesday arvo, otherwise I will be :freakingout:till then.

Lesley...All the best tomorrow, whatever side the coin lands, we are here to listen and encourage you but a good part of me thinks you will be fine and will be getting a BFP. Love you darl:hugs:

Sam...still no word from you, I hope you are fine.

All my love...

He is in control

25-01-2011, 07:37

:celebrate::celebrate::celebrate::celebrate::celeb rate::celebrate::celebrate:

My Lesley :cheerleader1:....I knew it, I knew it, something made me confident that you were getting a BFP....Arrghhhhhhhhhhhhhh, its time to celebrate.

Congratulations to you and DF and here's wishing you a happy and healthy 8+ months. I am over the moon on your behalf, I just rang my DH to share the great news. I feel so positive about mine now....

Will jump in later after my scan to give an update on me.

Congrats dear.:hyper::hyper::hyper::hugs:

samhannola76

25-01-2011, 08:24

Hi Guys

I'm still around. Just been reading all the posts.

Lesley - :celebrate: Wohoo!!!! Congratulations!! That is awesome news! It was your first try with IUI wasn't it? :fingerscrossed: and everything else crossed for a sticky bubba!

HIIC - Are you getting close to your first IUI now? Good luck with it and keep us posted on your progress!!

Pretty - Bugger about this month. I don't know if I can remember a time where my life didn't revolve around AF! I hope you get a chance next month. All we can do really is wait and wait til the bloody stork gets here.

AFM - Got an appointment with my new GP on Friday. I am going to ask him for a referral to a clinic in Sale (East Gippsland VIC). As we are now entering our 3rd year of trying with no baby I am starting to get impatient. I wouldn't have believed that TTC would be so hard for me. When we got pregnant with Max we had only been trying for a couple of months. Since then however, my body has just not been cooperating with me. I am really ready to explore IUI now so I just hope we can get started quickly and Lesleys news has only spurred me on. I'll let you know how I go.

Speak with you all soon and hoping someone else gets a :bfp: in the meantime!
cheers
Sam

prettydino

25-01-2011, 11:19

Lesley, I am so happy for you! It brought a smile to my face first thing this morning when I read your post. :celebrate::cheerleader1: Absolutely brilliant work! You must go out and celebrate!

Well, girls, let's hope something nice will happen to us too very soon!

Sam, glad to see you back on board. I can fully understand what you mean by your impatience. I'm not by nature a patient person, and so all this waiting around for the next cycle is terribly frustrating.

HIIC, haha, just because I'm a doc doesn't mean I know everything! What I've seen from a little bit of reading is that the ideal size for follicles seems to differ a little depending on the type of medication you are using. So I'd say 18mm does seem to be a good size for your injectables. Remember, I predominantly work with the geriatric population! :)

Anyway, ever on!!!:smiliedance:

He is in control

27-01-2011, 07:50

Hello babes:wave:,

Lesley...I do hope there is no morning sickness and you are strong enough to go to work. All the very best from the depth of heart for the next 8 months or so.

Pretty...Thanks for the little information, no matter how little, it's always helpful to get hints from buddies. Thanks.

Sam...Welcome back and good luck on your journey.

AFM...Scan on Tuesday revealed 2 follies, one at 18mm and the 2nd at 20mm so I am good to go now, I had my trigger injection yesterday and the insemination will follow at noon today. DH is at the clinic doing his thing in a jar...lol

Thanks for your support everyone and I really hope everyone here will eventually get a BFP on their next go with IUI...Much love

moosmum2

29-01-2011, 18:16

Hi Ladies!:wave:

Do you all mind if I join in????please , please please.....

I have read along and you sound like my type of girls!:p:p

First off Congrats Lesley on your BFP!!!!:smiliedance:

HIIC- I read the same thing about follicles size being over 18mm??? So behave follies and be prepared for insemination, lol!:D

Pretty- I hope the time fly’s for you till your appt in Feb.

So I will apologise in advance that I have copied and pasted this from my TTC diary....

So I have had 4 x m/c, all early around 8 wks. I have a beautiful loving partner and a gorgeous 11 year old daughter from a previous relationship. DP and I have been together for 8.5 years.

We have recently been seen by the multiple m/c specialist at the Monash in Melb. After extensive testing and US and SA we discovered.
Our chromosomes are normal,
I don’t have celiac’s,
I do have PCOS
I do have Lupus anti -coagulant
DP’s SA is 7% normal.

Outcome of cause of m/c = lupus anti - coagulant. No surprise there- we knew that after the 3rd one but we tried to manage it on aspirin. No success there.

So our specialist is also on the ivf team suggested that since we have now been trying 8 months since last m/c we should try iui as it will improve the quality of dp sperm and I will also be proscribed clexane until 37 wks gestation once pregnant to decrease m/c risks. I have agreed to 2 rounds of iui.

So I am excited and really manic/ anxious about this new journey, all the what if’s and the $$$. Am I making the right choicese? Should we just do ivf? How soon will the clinic call to book us in??? How soon can we get started???

So now we wait....something I am not very good at. But I will practice- practice makes perfect ( so I am told, lol!)

So as you can see we have some thing in common - I am about to start iui and I just want to get started already.

Looking forward to sharing many BFP with you all.xxx:babydust1:

moosmum2

29-01-2011, 20:43

Can I ask you all a question? From the time it was suggested that you do iui till insemination what was the time frame???

He is in control

30-01-2011, 08:02

Hi babes:wave:, I hope everyone is travelling well.

Pretty...How are you going with work, DH and the wait until Feb 7th when you'll get another game plan from your FS. All the best dear:hugs:

Sam...I know you are reading this, how are you and what stage are on you with your IUI journey, any decisions yet, any steps taken?

My Lesley...my very first buddy, glad to hear you are going well with the first trimester and yay for your Progesterone and HCG levels...hold on tightly little bub, I pray that you bear a full term healthy bub, I also wish you a happy, healthy and uneventful 8 months:celebrate:.

Moosmum2...Welcome, welcome, welcom:hugs: The more the merrier. I see you have been through a lot of things and you are a strong woman. I could find some strength in your post and I really hope your stay on this thread will be short and nice like Lesley's.

Between the time when my FS suggested that we will do IUI and the actual insemination was about 5 weeks and that is because....
1. Christmas holidays and FS clinic was closed until 4th of January.
2. My cycle is really long (32 days)
3. I was put in clomid for 5 days but my body resisted it and the follicles did not do what they were meant to so FS put me on Puregon from day 14 of my cycle.
4. My follies only became ready on Day 22 of my cycle.

Yours might be short like Lesley's I think her follies were ready on Day 11/12 of her cycle (Lesley, correct me if I'm wrong). I also noticed that you might not really feel that time is flying as you will be doing scans and bloods all through the cycle, so the time really flies out before you know it. I can't believe January is gone too soon.

AFM...The actual insemination was nice and easy for me, it was all done before I knew we were doing anything, very similar to a papsmear.
I am so waiting and anxious to see the outcome of my very first IUI. I'm keeping :fingerscrossed: as I am due to test (blood) on the 14th of February if AF hasn't showed her ugly face by then.

I will be having some blood test on Weds 02/02 to check my progesterone level.

If this cycle doesn't work, then I will be doing another IUI again in February as I want everything done back to back. My entire life revolves around having a bub and I'm not sure I can concentrate on anything else until this aspect of my life is sorted out.

FS wants us to try it 3 or 4 times but I think the maximum DH and I have agreed to do is 3 IUIs failing which we will move on to IVF.

Thanks for your support girls and here's hoping everyone's story/contribution helps us all move along fast.

Everyone:highfive:...I'm off to my Hillsong.

He is in control

30-01-2011, 08:16

prettydino

30-01-2011, 13:19

Hi Moosmum and welcome!:celebrate:\

It must have been heartbreaking for you to have gone through all you did.

You've come to the right place. We're all here for mutual support and cheerleading.:hugs:

For me, the interval between initial consultation and iui was only about 3 weeks or so. My cycle is very short, about 21 to 24 days and I had my initial consult with the doc about 3 days before AF arrived. My health is very unremarkable, so other than a few routine blood tests and DH's SA, the doc decided to dive straight into clomid and iui.

Lesley, I'm glad morning sickness is not troubling you. Constant nausea would not be a good state of mind to be in. Wishing with all my might that you have a smooth-sailing pregnancy and delivery all the way.

HIIC, I'm impatient of course for my Feb 7th appointment and really over work, which is unfortunately a necessary evil. I even signed up to go to latin dance classes twice a week to keep my mind off things. It's a lot of fun, haha. DH doesn't care for it but is quite happy for me to go distract myself.:hyper:

Sam, how r u going, babe?

Lots of :babydust1: to all of you!

He is in control

30-01-2011, 15:34

Hi everyone...

I just thought I'd quickly respond to Lesley's post about not telling anyone.

Look Lesley, they will eventually understand when you tell them and you will only need to apologise and explain things with carefully selected words of mouth.

My IUI journey is only known to myself, my DH, my FS and BubHub. Period! If this works, we have decided not to announce our pregnancy until we scale through the first trimester, it's just a lot easier when people do not know what stage you are up to, at least if anything goes wrong (which I always pray it doesn't) you dont fall into pity parties and get overly emotional about things.

I find it more fifficult to cope with my pains, loss, regrets etc when heaps of people discuss it and say sorry here and there. It's just a personal thing.

I would have loved to tell my mum and MIL about the IUI thing at least, but my fear is if it doesn't work, she (my mum) will cry and get too emotional about it and all I need and count on right now is my mum's strength and faith that we will conceive naturally.

It's easier for me to keep this from my mum as she is miles away and we cannot see this year anyway.

When the 1st trimester is done with, then I will apologise and explain and I believe whoever truly loves you will respect your decisions.

Again, this is my personal opinion and it works for me, I also do respect individual differences, so if anyone thinks or acts differently, I will only appreciate them for having what I don't have.

Have fun dear and have a good week everyone.

Pretty...Yay for the dance class, I wish I could have a good distraction, it really helps take your mind off TTC. What's your opinion about Traditional Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture? I just want to know what you think.

dandelion

31-01-2011, 07:09

Hello lovely ladies!! :wave:
I was reading this thread yesterday, and i was hoping that I can also join you all on your IUI journey.
I go for my first IUI today, just finished taking a course of gonal F injections, DH provides his sample this morning at 10am and then they do the insemination at 12.45!
I am so nervous, but at least after reading all your posts I know a little of what to expect :-)
Good luck to you all and I wish you all BFP's very very soon :babydust1:
Take Care
xoxox

P.s Lesley and He is in control, I am exactly the same as you and no body knows about our IUI journey except DH's parents. We are choosing not to tell anyone if we get a BFP until after the first trimester for the exact same reason as you guys. I think it is a fair decision to make, after all we are the ones who has to deal with the pain if anything goes wrong not anyone else! Once you have told people, if they are true friends then they will respect your choice and understand xxx

samhannola76

31-01-2011, 12:43

Hi Ladies :wave:

Lesley - glad you are feeling well and the sticky bean is staying sticky! You have no idea how much your BFP has motivated me.

HIIC - yes i am reading this! I have now got my first appointment to see the FS on 31/03. It seems such a long way away but I know that the time will fly by as has the last 3 years. (Well sort of). We live in East Gippsland so I have to wait for the doc to travel down here otherwise its a 4 hour drive to Melbourne and I don't think thats going to work too well. I'm still excited that I have the appointment so :fingerscrossed: everything works out well!! Hopefully you have a little bean after your IUI. Sending heaps of :goodvibes: your way.

Pretty - Feb 7 will be here before you know it! Then its all stations go from there. Hopefully you'll crack it first go and get your long awaited BFP!!!

Moosmum - Welcome aboard! I look forward to sharing this rollercoaster ride with you!!

Dandelion - Also welcome! By now you will have had your first IUI so fingers crossed that it works first time. Keep us posted!

AFM - Like I said, i have my first appointment with the FS on 31/03. Very exciting!! I can't wait to get started. I'm also a little scared that my old OB/GYN missed something and there really is something wrong with me. In any event, it will be good to know either way and hopefully if there is something then it can be treated easily enough.

:babydust1: for all
Cheers
Sam

moosmum2

31-01-2011, 20:46

WOW, what a fantastic welcome I have received- Thankyou all so much!:goodvibes:

HIIC- you have a wonderful caring outlook- thank you for the time frame run down, I am such an impatient person by nature so it was nice to have a out line to help with my issues with being a control freak! I bet the wait for your BT must be painful- bring on Wed. I also noticed at the end of your Sunday post that you go to Hillsong. When I was in Sydney recently and we drove past it- WOW that place is huge! (on that note can you say a little pray for us, pretty please.xx):D

Lesley- I don’t think I will be on any med for the iui but I will be going Back to Acupuncture to help more with relaxation- I get a bit tense, lol. I respect your decision not to discuss doing iui and being pg. I have made the mistake myself... I seemed to get worse with the last 2 pg as I wanted to validate the pg and thought the more I spoke about it the more real it would be? But really I just ended up in tears every time someone would ask how I was feeling. This time around we aren’t telling too many people- just my parents, one of my friends and my PT. Embrace the tired crankiness that comes with being utd hopefully soon you will even get some delightful m/s! I also used to work in retail so I totally get the heavy lifting and the long shifts being on your feet- tell them you have a bad back and don’t want to go out on work cover... that will get them off your back so to speak!:laughing:

Pretty- 07/02 isn’t too far away now- bring on the dancing, whhaaa wooo!:smiliedance: I think you are very brave I have always wanted to learn but to chicken- I do alot of fitness, boxing ,running and PT much to my mothers dimay!( she thinks that working out will stop me from having a baby/ or m/c)

Dandelion- SOOOO how did you go!!! Ohh and Welcome i am new here too!:cheerleader1:

Sam- March must feel so far away but I wouldn’t fancy a 4 hour drive. So once you see the FS will the do the iui in your town or will you have to travel? I am sure the past OBGYN has everything in order and the new super duper one can just step right in and be wonderful and get you utd in the shortest amount of time possible- not sure if you have noticed but I am an eternal optimist! I always think everything will work out. Like you said it’s been 3 years already so March is nothing on that, Fx for 31/03.:fingerscrossed:

Can I ask you all a question- did you all need to do police and child protection order checks? I have no problems getting it done, but really some crazy crack head can have a baby/ babies and we have to prove we are fit??? (Money making IMO)

The clinic hasn’t called yet so I am going to call them tomorrow- my Dr did say if I hadn’t heard from them within a week to call- so I will.:rolleyes:

dandelion

31-01-2011, 20:53

Thank you samhannola76 and moosmum2, it is going to be great sharing stories and experiences with others who are in the same boat :-)

I am a little upset tonight but trying to stay positive, DH's sperm count was even lower today when went to do the IUI. It was .8, when he first got tested it was 1.7 million and ever since we found out we have been trying to do everything we can to help improve it but it has just gotten worse, i do not understand :( We were told that there is very slim chance of the IUI working today and we didnt have to go through with it if we didnt want too. We chose to anyway. We were also told it isnt in our best interest to try it again if it doesn't work even though we have only tried once. So looks like it is onto IVF right after this, just a matter of getting all that money together!!! However I do have all my fingers and toes crossed and have not given up hope on this cycle just yet, miracles DO happen!

Has anyone had any experiences with Life Fertility in at Spring Hill in Brisbane? I love them there they are all so lovely, and my doctor Dr Jessup is fantastic, she seems very experienced in what she does as well.

Just wondering ladies how many of you have had bad cramping after an IUI? Mine is horrible!!! I had a little bit of bleeding too but the nurses said it is nothing to worry about...

Anyway pretties :babydust1: to you all and look forward to hearing more updates from you all xxx

moosmum2

31-01-2011, 20:56

[QUOTE=
Pretty...Yay for the dance class, I wish I could have a good distraction, it really helps take your mind off TTC. What's your opinion about Traditional Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture? I just want to know what you think.[/QUOTE]

I LOVE it!!!!:smiliedance: I started after my last m/c. He had me BBT charting as well -It regulated my cycle made me all nice and relaxed and I am sure if DP sperm count was better would have gotten utd... I spoke to my guy the other day- When we first saw the m/c sp Dr he told us to stop TTC- so I called Acu man and he said ok lets take a break from acu. yes he said that, other therapist I have seen in the past would have taken my money but not my Man he had the very rare thing integrity! so I spoke to him and gave him an up date on the iui situation and he said he needed to see me one week before transfer and the day off. I think it's worth it.It cost about $200 a month but like I said I LOVE IT!!!:p
Also it's not like in the movies- I just had needles in the wrists, belly, two points in the legs and between the eyes.

prettydino

31-01-2011, 21:05

Hello dandelion and welcome! :wave: The more the merrier! I'm sorry to hear the news about your DH's analysis but IVF seems to have a better success rate than IUI so perhaps that's the way to go. But good luck with it all. I didn't have any problems after my iui at all. No cramping, no spotting, so perhaps I was lucky in a very small way.

Lesley, I think whether you choose to tell anymore or not about your news is entirely your and your DH's concern. I know of lots of women who have done the same and noone ever gets offended. And if they do, then maybe they shouldn't be hanging around you so much if they are so petty! I would do the same as you.

HIIC, being of Chinese descent so maybe I'm biased, but I have a very healthy respect for TCM and acupuncture. It's not effective for everything, but I have seen it very helpful in select cases and certainly, the fertility nurse in CFC Sunnybank suggested it as a means of helping out in the entire assisted reproductive process. I think as long as you find yourself a reliable practitioner, you should be quite safe. Beware though, some of the herbal concoctions don't taste so good (having been force-fed some of those by my folks as a child!) and they can sometimes have adverse effects, so be sure to tell your practitioner if you are taking any prescribed medications.

MM, I agree with you. Acupuncture can be so relaxing. I had my first experience when I used to have major problems with tension headaches and nausea everyday after work. Nothing would help and I didn't like swallowing panadol all the time. So I saw this practitioner in Sunnybank Plaza. One treatment, and voila! I very rarely had these headaches again. He sneakily manipulated my spine (quite by accident, I'm sure ;)), but gosh, it felt good.

Sam, long journey for you but it's for a good cause! Think of the end result!!:smiliedance:

Oh, I love the dancing! We learnt how to twirl today and I got all dizzy. Hopefully I'll eventually learn that dancer's knack of twirling and twirling and never getting dizzy.:laughing:

:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babyd ust1::babydust1::babydust1:to everyone!

*Sparkles*

31-01-2011, 21:24

Hi ladies,

I just wanted to pop into your thread to wish you all the best of luck with your journeys and a big congrats to lesley76 on your BFP that's fantastic news :smiliedance:

I have been reading your thread because I am an IUI success story, well actually we were DI (donor insemination) due to DH being infertile and we now have 2 very healthy boys aged 4 and 2.
So hang in there girls because it does happen and all the best to you all :babydust1:

Hels x

He is in control

01-02-2011, 08:13

My babes:wave:,

Arrgh!!! So much has happened just in 24hours. Where do I start from now? Oh Ok!

Dandelon...:hugs:Welcome lovey and I know everyone has encouraged you in one way or the other, I know words might not do the trick but remember only 1 spermatozoa is needed to fertilize your egg. I know how hard it is to remain postive with the IUI regarding the Doctor's comments but my dear, just remain positive, impossible things only take longer time to achieve.
Dandelon:hugs::hugs::hugs:There are very lovely ladies on this thread and we will respond to you and listen to you whenever you need us, we will run this race together and I see everything working fine for you.

Even if you have to go down the IVF path with all the expenses and intensity of the treatment, we are here to always encourage you and at the end of it all, you will have a healthy bub to show for it. Just keep us posted on how you are going with the TWW, when are you testing? Mine is on Feb 14th if no AF by then. Yay for your age...I reckon you will be our baby on this thread. I had no cramps at all too, no spotiing, nothing, just feels like I didn't do a thing.

Lesleydarl...The thought of IVF consumes me too but I'm pretty positive about the IUI eventhough my hopes are not high too much for this 1st one (don't know why) but I'm drawing heaps of strength from your sucess story and other babes who have had success too.

I hope they understand at work that this is a special phase of your life and the last thing you want is physical or emotional stress. Plus I like the way you still stick to this thread eventhough you have graduated, it's so encouraging. Thanks :hugs:

Sam...March the 31st is sooo near, you just close your eyes and open it and we are there. Where is January 2011? I reckon this year will be soooo fast, hang in there honey, I wouldn't drive 4 hours for an appointment that will only last for about 30mins to 1 hour. We are here to help make the journey shorter for you. I was so excited when I got my first appointment too.

Moos...Police check? No, not in Brisbane I think, I have also read some stories relating to that on Bub Hub and I think it's unfair, they should reason that for a couple to decide to go for assisted reproducton then they must be really ready and able to face the music. That's silly IMO.

Pretty...I did acupuncture for 6 months with TCM but it didn't get me a BFP but it did regulate my cycle and made it more stable. I used to have between 32 and 36 days before I started acupuncture but now I'm regularly 31 or 32 days at most but this cycle is different for me as the medications got my body off the hook. The herbs weren't too bad for me anyway, but I hate the taste still.
Six more days and you will be seeing your FS...yay:smiliedance:
Hels Bels.. You are so sweet, thanks for coming on to encourage us. People like you are rare and your story touches me and makes me positive that IUI will work, I'm hoping to do it 3ce before even thinking of IVF, I get scared when I think of IVF but I'm hoping and believing God will surprise me with this IUI thing.

AFM...No news, I will keep you all posted when my progesterone test result is out :fingerscrossed: for some good levels.

All my love.

dandelion

01-02-2011, 14:31

Just wanted to post a quick reply while I have the time and say a huge thank you to all of you for your kind words, it really makes a huge difference having support on here :hugs:

He is in control - I also test on the 14th of Feb if there is no AF by then!! How exciting we both get to test at the same time :-) What a wonderful valentines day it will be if we both get BFP's! :babydust1::fingerscrossed:

Lesley76 - Just wanted to say a huge congrats to you on your BFP as I forgot too in my other posts. You must be over the moon!!!:celebrate:

Hope you are all having a nice relaxing day with your feet up pretties :-)

moosmum2

03-02-2011, 15:13

Just a quick post, I made my first appt today and my councelling appt ( manatory in Vic) for the 25th of Feb!!!! I think I need a ticker!!!, lol:smiliedance:

dandelion

03-02-2011, 20:53

Yay!! You must be so excited moosmum that there is an actual set date to look forward to now! I hope time goes quick for you, hopefully you have lots to do keep you occupied. I hate the waiting game!! lol be sure to let us all know how it goes :-)
xxx

He is in control

04-02-2011, 07:39

Hello lovlies,

Moos...You must be over excited taht finally you are on track.:babydust1: 25th will soon be here darl and we go from there.

Dandelon...How are you baby? What's up with the cramps and bleeding?

Pretty...Yay! Friday is here and all you need is 2 more days and you get rolling again. It will be worth the wait.

Sam...:hugs:Hope you are keeping up well with the wait.

Lesley...:cheerleader1:Hi darl

AFM...Very low progesterone level:hair: It's sad enough and I had some cramps yesterday with significant spotting last night. It's brownish and I'm beginning to think it's an indication that AF will show up soon.
I woke up this morning with a dull pain in my lower abdomen and the spotting is still very significant.

Technically, my period will be due next Friday (as I only ovulated last week Thursday 27th) but this announcement is a bit early. I usually get all these signs when Af is 1 day away and I'm shocked right now.

I can't stop thinking I could have a sticky bean implanting! but with the very low progesterone level on Wedsday, I'm trying not to get over excited.

I'm so confused and in limbo land. I did ask my FS to prescribe Pregnyl to support the Luteal Phase but he wouldn't, he just wanted me to go for the blood test first and now AF is threatening. Anyway, I will hear what he has to say today as he rang me yesterday and asked me to show up this arvo.

Hoping to update you later on:freakingout:

prettydino

04-02-2011, 08:53

Hello all,

Good to hear all your updates.

Oh, I so know the feeling of disappointment and impending doom when you are dithering between thoughts about something implanting and whether AF is about to turn up uninvited! I had the very same sinking feeling last December and am sure I was a bit like a Jekyll and Hyde figure.:rolleyes:

What is it about families that they have the ability to hurt and sting you like a bee? I rang my mother up last night to wish her a happy chinese new year. After the usual niceties, she started telling me about this and that cousin having another baby, Mrs X's son/daughter having ANOTHER little boy/girl...etc, etc. Seriously. She knows I am trying and haven't been successful, but that sort of news is the height of insensitivity.:(

And when I decided to be brave and say,"Perhaps I am meant to be a career woman", she said," Well, it would be nice to have one at least". As though I was the one deliberately obstructing the process.

Well, what on earth do you think I'm doing, mum???:hair:

I would be so content with one happy, healthy bubba. Not asking much really, is it?!:hair:

Aaaargh, for a lifelong control freak like me, this whole process irks me to death. When the body doesn't cooperate, it is so devastating.

Yay that my appointment is 3 days away. Can't wait to go into a council of war with my doc and see what the next strategy will be.

Stay well, girls.:wave:

He is in control

05-02-2011, 18:21

Pretty...argh! I know how you feel, I had to tell my mum and dad never to ask me again. I told them I will tell them when it clicks, I also explained to them that regularly asking me about it makes me sick and moody. Sorry honey:hugs:

Lesley...:celebrate:I'm upholding you in my prayers that you scale through this first trimester successfully. Just hang in there and all will be well with you.

AFM...My stupid body brought on AF yesterday (just after my last post), I bedt she was uninvited and unexpected:freakingout:. I made my appointment with the FS yesterday and the story is really long and un-impressive. Going into the details will make tears roll down my cheeks and that's the last thing I want now.

The short story is that I ovulated on 17th January and did insemination on 27th. Isn't that mad? I had 1 large follice on my last scan 14th Jan but FS thought 15mm isn't good enough so he put me on Puregon and then (sorry I cant explain myself better), anyway, the 15mm ovulated about 2 days later and on my next scan after taking 50iu Puregon for 6 days, I had 2 large follicles bla bla bla...very stupid explanation.

FS said he did not monitor me closemy enough the last cycle because of my long cycles, so he inseminated based on the 2 follies seen on 27th Jan. He also explained that once 1 follicle (or whatever) has ovulated, the body follows that rythm and subsequent eggs will be reagrded as luteanized (spelling??) eggs and they just wont survive in the Luteal phase of the initially released egg (stupid body of mine).

I was very unpleased with the explanation but what can I do, it's all gone, I believe this last cycle wasn't mine and I'm moving on with my life. I still so much respect my FS, I hold him in high prestige and this mistake or ommission wouldn't change how much I regard him but then...it's a big shame!

I could feel it all over my FS that he was sorry though he never said it, his words were incoherent and he was not happy himself.

My very low Pregesterone (5 ) on Weds was just an indication that AF was due in 24hrs, he said he rang me immediately he got the result as he was too sure AF is knocking.

So I was fooling myself all along, thinking and praying that the 57million sperm inseminated will meet at least one of the 2 eggies. Stupid me, I feel less than a woman right now.

It's so sad, its a waste of money and time plus efforts coming from my office to the CBD for appointments etc. It's just very frustrating, plus the puregon, trigger, sperm prep and insemination, we spent up to $2000 with no dollar refund from Medibank as we are foreigners and not covered for fertility treatment.

I'm sorry for ranting on and on girls, I'm just :freakingout::(:no::confused::eek:

Have fun everyone. Forgive any typographical errors (if any) or stupid remarks, I cant edit anything right now.

moosmum2

05-02-2011, 19:10

HIIC- I just had to post as I think you have expressed yourself so well but I could read between the lines the despair? I think you are a real trooper $2000 is a huge amount of money and your kindness and gratitude shown towards your FS is sweet. Guess getting worked up, angry or cross isn’t going to change the outcome now BUT moving forward what is he planning on doing to make the process more successful??? I don’t think I could be as understanding... but then again I am so impatient! :hugs:

Pretty- I think parents think they are being helpful when the say did you know such and such are expecting or your sister is pg AGAIN! Or it will happen when it’s meant to!!! I think Asian/ European parents tend to put more pressure on their children as they are more concerned at times with appearances and can at times become quite competitive with others in the community they feel it’s a direct reflection on them.IMO. Only 2 days to go till your appointment, yay!!!:D

Lesley- how’s the bleeding/ discharge??? I hope you are resting up and taking it easy.xxx

Dandelion- how are your spirits today?

AFM- not much going on in my world. Spoke with my sister who m/c 5 months ago and is STILL bleeding so I wanted to check that she was being assertive with her OBGYN and having it investigated. Dp and i have decided to do our 2 day plan this month before the first iui. So that’s DTD every 2nd day as soon as AF finishes for 2 weeks... this plan has gotten me utd 4 times so I know it works.... ;)

I have spent some time researching other things we can do to improve our chances of getting utd with iui. So girls any tips or trick that you use????:babydust1:

dandelion

06-02-2011, 13:51

Hello Pretties!! :wave:
How are we all feeling today? Good i hope:)
So just a quick update on whats been happening lately...the spotting stopped after the first day of IUI, my cramping has subsided a fair bit however I am still getting a few twinges on pain on my left side...how long after IUI is this meant to last? It is now 6DPO and 7 days since i had the Ovidrel trigger, and yesterday I started get this really weird after taste in my mouth, it is still there today..it only seems to go away if i brush my teeth for like 10 minutes!! As soon as I eat something though it comes back...could this be a sign???Or would it be too early for implantation to have occured...or maybe the ovidrel is still in my system and playing tricks on me? Well i sure hope it is a sign that the IUI has actually worked, it would be a true miracle when we only did it with .8 mil of DH's swimmers!! AF is due on Friday, I don't know if i can wait that long to do a test!! gahh

HIIC – I am so sorry that things did not work out and that THEY stuffed things up for you!!! I would fuming with the FS if I were in your position, so I must say you handling it all extremely well...what are your plans for this cycle? Going to try again or maybe see another FS? Really hope you are ok darl, big hugs to you!:hugs2:

Moosmum2 – That is so sad to hear about your sister, can’t believe she is still bleeding 5 months down the track? I hope she’s ok! As for tips on helping IUI to be more successful, i also did a lot of research online just before i went for mine...I heard that drinking pineapple juice can help but not TOO much, laying down for 20 mins after the procedure is also meant to be good, however my FS didn’t get me to do this not sure why....I also heard that you shouldn’t swim for 48 hour afterwards! I actually took 2 days off work because of this (I am learn to swim teacher) lol. Anyway hope you are doing well darl and that time is going quick!

Prettydino – Your appointment is tomorrow! Yay, make sure you let us know how it goes! And with your mum, mine is very similar. I have just learnt to let whatever she says go right over my head otherwise i spend days dwelling on it and getting mad. I don’t think they realise half the things that come out of their mouth sometimes lol

Lesley – Hope you are doing well and still relaxing ;) Not long till your 7 week scan now, how exciting!!:smiliedance:

He is in control

06-02-2011, 17:17

Thanks gilrs...I'm good and we are doing another IUI this cycle. I'm just so worked up and trying to get in the rythm again. I'm on CD3 and would be on my medications from today. I'm just letting go of all that has happened in the past and fixing my gaze on what tomorrow holds.

Lesley...Thanks dear. I did not talk to them about getting a refund as I know it's impossible. I'm happy you remember I was a bit worried and I even told him on the 21st of January that I have a strong feeling that I ovulated over the weekend but he still went ahead with insemination on teh 27th. He scanned me and said 'your eggs/follies are still there'. I even told him I had post ovulation signs but he thought it was Puregon. I'm sure I did a post to that effect, I can remember asking Pretty about it since she's a Doc.

Anyway darl, enough of the pains and regrets and yay! for the real first trimester symptoms, please enjoy it, it only happens 1ce in every preganancy.

Dandelion...I'm hoping and keeping my heart crossed for you with those signs, I don't think it is too early to feel somethings, who knows if the .8 got inside at the right time with the right 'environmental conditions, success is yours this cycle. Thanks baby.

Moos...I love your 2nd day plan, I think DH and I will implement that this cycle, at least we will be giving ourselves a chance before the actual insemination. We fumbled last cycle, we didn't DTD at all towards ovulation as we thought it was still far away. Anyway, we've learnt the hard way. Thanks for the encouragement.

I am hoping this February brings us good vibes, how many people are cycling this February. From memory I think Pretty, Moos and I will be doing IUI this month. Please confirm and let us all discuss the different approaches / game plan / medications etc, just so that we all know if something ought to be done diffrenttly. Anyway, different clincs have diffrent ways of doing things but the most important thing is SUCCESS which I wish everyone on this thread.

Catch you girls later, once again, thanks for the words of encouragement everyone, those words are golden.

samhannola76

07-02-2011, 08:38

Hi All :wave:

Sorry I have been a little AWOL of late. I did post last week but BH lost it while I was posting. :hair:

HIIC - Sorry to hear about AF. I really wish there was a way we could convince our bodies to just do what they're told. Hopefully next month with be your lucky month :fingerscrossed:

Lesley - How are you feeling? Glad to hear the spotting stopped and your bloodwork was good. Can't wait to hear how your scan goes. Very exciting!!!

Dandelion - I hope that the IUI did the trick. I know you are worried about DH sperm but remember it only takes one of the little suckers!!

Pretty - My Mum sometimes goes on about me having a baby. I do tell her its not like I'm not trying or anything. If all else fails, just tell them all to bugger off!

Moos - Good idea with the BDing every 2 days. Thats what my specialist told us to do!! Your sister really needs to see someone cos I had a mc and only bled for a week! I also only bled for 2 weeks after having Max so 5 months is way too long.

AFM - We have decided to put the IUI on hold. We are now looking into Permanent care and infant adoption. We are attending an info session on March 8th to see if we think its something we would want to do. DH isn't a fan of artificial insemmination and I think we really need to be on the same page if we are going to go down that road. We have decided that maybe it would be better to give someone elses child the chance to have a happy life. Not ruling out treatments in the future and hey, who knows, we may get UTD naturally!! We have twice before so :fingerscrossed:. I am going to hang around if thats OK so I can see what you are all up to. Let me know though if you would rather I left the forum!! Speak to you soon :babydust1: & :goodvibes: for all
Cheers
Sam

sunnycoastgirl

07-02-2011, 13:03

Hi everyone.:wave:
I have just joined this forum and am looking for people to share my first IUI experience with.
We are doing our first cycle in a couple of weeks, as soon as AF arrives. I really have no idea what to expect and am a little emotional that it has come to this, although I am happy that we are finally moving forward in our TTC journey. We have been TTC for 3 years now. i had PCOS and endo. I had an operation in April to fix these issues and am apparently now all good to go!
It literally feels like everyone i know is pregnant, :freakingout: and i have no one to share my frustration with.
Anyway, enough babbling... hope to talk to you all soon xo

prettydino

07-02-2011, 17:47

Hello all & welcome sunnycoastgirl! :wave:

Lesley, I am so excited for you. You must keep the ultrasound pic of your new little bean!

HIIC, I feel your disappointment. :hugs::babydust1:for next time.

Sam, I so admire you for your generosity in deciding to share your life with a child that is not biologically your own. Of course (!) you SHOULDN"T leave the forum. We're all in this together, to become mothers and experience the joys and perils of motherhood. I, for one, would feel very honoured that you are choosing to share details of your journey with us.

Well, I had my gynae appointment today. I went in feeling rather bubbly, and came out rather deflated. My FS again reiterated that I shouldn't play around too much because of my age (I'm 35 for heaven's sake, the way he goes on, I might as well be dead and buried). And he wants to do a laparascopy. I'm really resistant to that idea because I scar extremely badly; I have a tendency to grow nasty, bulgy, red and itchy keloid scars. I have one on my breastbone that developed from a really large pimple and it's about 7 cm long, 3 cm wide and was about 0.5 cm thickness. I had to have 3 visits' worth of multiple very painful steroid injections from a plastic surgeon to get it to flatten and shrink a little. I'm not that keen to have cuts on my body just "to have a look around inside". I know he might be able to find and remove endometriosis spots and unblock tubes, but there's no real indication that he might find something that he can fix. I've already had so many ultrasounds and bloods and all came back normal.

Anyway, my husband was there with me. And after listening to some explanations, we both decided that we will pursue iui one more time and if that doesn't work, then skip the laparoscopy and go straight for IVF. Funnily enough, he wants me to stay on the same dose of clomid as last time (50mg CD2-6) as he feels I respond sufficiently to that dose. I specifically asked him twice whether I need to change to something else and he said no. He said with injectables, the ovaries get stimulated more and so there's a higher chance of the cycle being cancelled. He won't do iui for a cycle that has more than 2 follicles.

So. There's my update.

I came out feeling rather deflated somehow. Doesn't help that an expectant mum walks straight into the waiting room after me!!!:hair:

Anyway. Went straight to Garden City and bought 2 pairs of shoes.:laughing: Felt better straightaway.:p

Chat soon.

He is in control

08-02-2011, 07:53

Sunnycoast girl...Welcome to this thread. You are in the right place as most of us are either first timers or on the 2nd cycle with IUI. We welcome your frustrations and we hope to be there with you throughout. I also personally wish your stay here will be short and nice. We all feel as if everyone around us is pregant except us, but the truth is, not everyone is preganant and you will h=get there someday too. It's just a matter of time. I was a bit emotional when my FS suggested IUI too, I felt really bad that it got to that level but I had to speak to myself that infertility is a disease and should be treated like youw ould treat any other disease, it's a good thing that you are taking a step, it will be worth the stress.

Pretty...Here we go again with these FS and their clomid thing. My FS also put me on clomid again too so you are not alone. He first put me on clomid 50mg last time, I didn't respond well so he switched to Puregon. This time, I'm on clomid 100mg and he thinks that should be fine. He also explained to me that they only use Puregon when clomid fails to do the trick so I do not think your FS is taking chances...just calm down.

One other thing we have in common is the laparoscopy thing, my FS said he would do a laparoscopy for me before we start IVF if IUI doesn't work which I am not keen about. We have an option to skip laparoscopy anyway but I'm not sure yet as I haven't even thought about it.

I hate scars too, I really hate them but I don't scar too badly anyway but I would do anything to skip laparoscopy as FS once told me he is 85% sure they would not find anything there since I do not have any indications but then he likes to do it before IVF just to be 100% sure there are no issues down there. Everything came back normal for me too after all tests, HSG, ultrasound etc .
He also explained that a few women have endometriosis (spelling) issues and have no indications at all until the sugery is done.

Anyway darl, you are not alone.

Sam...I respect your decision. You have a very good and beautiful heart and I wish you well on this path. Please, do not leave this thread, please, we need to know how you are going and who knows you may be UTD naturally.

Catch y'all later.

Pretty...what day of your cycle are you on now? and when are you starting the next cycle, we might be doing IVF together if IUI fails. Plus it's amazing how shoes can make you feel better...lol

samhannola76

08-02-2011, 09:44

Hi Guys :wave:

Thanks heaps for your support with our change of plans. It feels like we are making the right decision at this point in our lives. Hopefully the process won't be long and painful and we'll have a child in our lives soon!!

Sunny - Welcome aboard the IUI train. Good luck with your journey. Hopefully it will be short and sweet!! :fingerscrossed:

HIIC & Pretty - I had a lap done in 2009 and it wasn't that bad. I had no discomfort after the sugery at all and the scars are so tiny you can barely see them. I was one of the people that had endo and had no idea. The doc lasered it out though and told me that he didn't think it was playing a major role in our infertility. You do however get a great 6 month window of max fertility (and we got pregnant in this time). Its worth having it done if your FS recommends it. My Doc used to go on and on about my age (I'm 34) and you'd think we all had one foot in the grave. I do wish I could be 25 and fertile like mad though!!

Lesley - How are you going. Only a few days til your big scan. Sending you lots of :goodvibes: for a sticky lil bean

Everyone else - Hope you are all well!!

Speak to you soon
:babydust1::babydust1: for all
Sam

aurora78

08-02-2011, 20:43

My name is candice and we have been TTC 4 yrs :fingerscrossed:. I work in childcare which makes this emotionally very hard at times to deal with:(. My husband and i are both fine and ive also undergone lap march 2009. So now the specialist has said to try iui .:celebrate: I am about to begin this journey in the next few weeks and so thankful i found a group that is experiencing the same thoughts and issues as my self.this is also a difficult time as my younger sister is expecting her 1st april and im still trying to cope with this.:eek::gl:

prettydino

08-02-2011, 21:21

Hello all,

HIIC, I'm around Day 17 of my cycle. Got my script for Clomid filled today. Let's hope a couple of nice follicles grow. If this iui doesn't work, then it looks like we will plan for the ivf procedure. Will have to go back and talk with Dr Ng about the ins and outs of that. He gave me some pamphlets and a booklet to read. If you do go down that path as well, I would be glad of an ivf buddy.:hugs:

Sam, I'm not scared of a lap. I know the scars are tiny. But it doesn't take much for me to develop a bad scar. The one on my chest came from a pimple about 2 mm across. I'm terrified I'll end up like my mum, whose entire abdomen is covered with this nasty red overgrown scar tissue (she doesn't even have a belly button anymore) and this developed from chickenpox rash. How horrendous would that be?!:eek: She suffers from terrible discomfort because of the hypersensitivity, tissue tightness, itch and intermittent stabbing pain.

Candice, I know how you feel. My sister is also expecting her first. And she got pregnant 2 months after she stopped the pill. And she freaked out because she wasn't emotionally and financially ready for it. I'm glad that everything is going well and she's almost term now. But in a way, I'm also happy she's overseas because then the fact that she's pregnant and I'm not, is not in my face all the time. Trying to keep cheerful can be very tiring. Welcome to our little forum btw. :wave:

Anyway. Stay well, ladies. :babydust1:to everyone.

He is in control

09-02-2011, 13:16

Aurora78...Welcome :hugs:. I hope your stay is short and sweet. Fortunately for me, my only sister is very very young and wouldn't be thinking of having kids for another 10 years...lol. When are you starting your cycle and what medications are you on? All the best dear.

Hello everyone:wave: I'm at work and just wanted to say welcome to the newbie.

aurora78

09-02-2011, 17:38

hi and thanks everyone for the wonderful welcoming to this forum.:cheerleader1: To answer your question im starting around the 17th feb or round about that date u know whenever monthly turns up. i will be taking serophene 50mg for 5 days then have an US and given the needle to bring home and administer not long before the procedure. Thanks for the support my sister is here in the same town so it can it really hard at times especially knowing that it was an accident and not planned. so when she 1st told me i hang the phone up and just brust into tears:confused: it took me a few weeks the courage to ring and chat with her. i also am seeing a councelor to help me deal with issues concerning this issue as i had bit of a melt down last sept.
well i hope all is going well for everyone and :babydust1::fingerscrossed:

moosmum2

09-02-2011, 19:37

Just wanted to welcome the new girls!!!:celebrate: Sunny and Aurora!!!!!:cheerleader1:

Aurora I feel your pain in regards to your Sister- my Middle Sister announced she was utd 5 days after my 3rd m/c...5 fricken days:no: and with her 4th unplanned!!! I was shatted- she just blerted it out at a family B'day BBQ I went into an internal meltdown. the baby of course was due around the same time as mine so itwas sooo hard but he is here now and I just love him to bits BUT I could bearly talk to my sister at all during the pg. A girl at work is pg and I HATE it when she talks to me about it and she knows about my situation. I had some councelling ordered by my work when I had a very public melt down when she first told me she was pg- so what I am rambling :ecomcity:on about is we are all here together:hugs:to support and be kind too each other.xxx:hugs:

I just got home from boxing so I am stuffed but we are on the 2 day plan so I must stay up and ready for DP when he finishes soccer:laughing:

sunnycoastgirl

10-02-2011, 13:25

Hi everyone:wave: and thanks for the welcome...
I'm glad I dont have a sister from what you girls were saying, lol. My best friend got pregnant last year "by accident" and that was hard enough!! I love her baby boy though, he's beautiful!
I hope everyones day is going well. I have today off so its house cleaning day for my unfortunately :( Trying not to think about this next cycle too much, my period is late, and I'm dying to start taking those little white pills this month!! I'm on Letrozole 2.5 mg days 3-7. Is anyone else taking letrozole? It seems like a lot of you are on injections... i wonder if I should be too? The only injections my doctor mentioned was the shot to make me ovulate if I don't do so naturally. I am up to day 29 of my cycle so hopefully won't have to wait much longer. :smiliedance:

prettydino

10-02-2011, 18:54

It's so heartwrenching to hear everyone's stories. Now I know I am normal. I always used to feel internally "mad", whenever I chanced upon conversations in the workplace or socially, about so-and-so getting pregnant, accidentally or planned, or their baby plans, etc. Used to make me so upset. But in the interest of maintaining appearances, i swallow all that internal mental anguish and smile.

Good on the girls who have taken the brave step of going for counselling.:hugs:

I've come down with some viral illness, with a scratchy throat, muscle aches and pains. Came home from work a little early today and slept. Not much better. Wondering if I should go to work tomorrow or sleep in and rest? I feel so guilty though, because work is very busy at the moment. My DH told me to stay at home and rest, he said, our chances wouldn't be good if I was rundown or stressed. So I might just do that.:D

moosmum2

10-02-2011, 18:59

Pretty- I agree with you DH take the time off for YOU!!!:D Can't be making babies when you are sick.x

sunnycoastgirl

13-02-2011, 20:39

Hi everyone!:wave:
Lesley AF arrived on Friday morning, so i guess this means that my insemination day will be around the 26th feb, which is also my birthday! I took my first letrozole pill this morning. Going for my first scan on thursday, I dont know how many scan i will have to have, but because my cycle can vary from 23-33 days I think they may need to do a couple to pinpoint ovulation. How many scans do you normally have per cycle? So excited to be finally starting!!:fingerscrossed:
Hope everyone is having a great weekend.
:babydust1: to everyone

prettydino

15-02-2011, 21:49

Hi everyone!

I'm better but work is making me feel very tired and stressed, so I feel as though I am aching all over. What is it with Queensland Health? All the political by-play is seriously sh*tting me off. Some days I sincerely think they've forgotten that patient care is the most important thing. Instead, there is a great emphasis on bed turnovers and length of stays. All these stats are collected but noone seems to do anything productive with them.

I am so glad next week is going to be my last week of work. I've saved enough to take a 3 month break, so that I can chill out and concentrate on this fertility journey. It's difficult to take time off for all these ultrasounds and if I'm going to do ivf, I prefer not to be extra- stressed with work stuff.

AF arrived today, which means I will start taking clomid tomorrow!:fingerscrossed:

Hey, just a question. At what stage do you consider your AF as properly Day 1? I often have this dark brown discharge (that necessitates a sanitary napkin) for a day or two before the actual reddish bleeding starts. Would u count that brown stage as Day 1 or wait until the bleed becomes red?

Good luck to all and I hope you all did something nice for Valentine's Day!:celebrate:

moosmum2

16-02-2011, 06:45

Pretty- cd1 is when you have a full flow of red blood I believe:p

Wow thats great that you are taking a 3 month break from work but I think its great I can't begain to imagine how stressful being a Dr is!!! :fingerscrossed: for baby making!!!!:hyper:

He is in control

16-02-2011, 12:30

Pretty...I agree with moosmum on CD1 being the day the full red blood shows up and sorry you've been ill, thank God you are back on your feet now.

YAY! for having 3 months off work. I wish! If we eventually go down the IVF route, I pray we get our BFPs on the first go. I will definitely take a month off for my IVF cycle too because I can't combine the two, my clinic, office and home are on 3 far ends.

Sam...How are you travelling? Any new developments?

Dandelion... From memory I think you should have tested by now. Fill us in with updates and remember we all care and are willing to listen and give you a shoulder to lean on.

Aurora...How are you and what stage are you on this journey. Keep us posted, we all care.

Moosmum...How's your 2 day plan going and I see you only have 1 week or so till you begin your IUI cycle. All the best. DH and I also stole the 2 day plan idea from you, here's hoping it works.

Sunny...Keep your heart open for as many scans as possible. They just do that every now and then to ensure correct timing for the actual insemination. Yay on getting started, baby pebbles to you honey.

Lesley...My Lesley, aww, thanks for reminding me of those days when it was only you and I on this thread. I'm happy we have more girls now especially now that you have graduated.

Yay for the heart beat and the fact that you are pludging along well with the 1st trimester, it will soon be over dear, I so can't wait to hear you announce your 2nd trimester (safe zone).

I've had it rough girls and that explains why I've been silent over the past few days. I just have issues with my mood and emotions. This TTC journey plus the medications haven't been nice on me at all.

I have cancelled this cycle as Clomid 100mg didn't do the trick. What we saw in the scan was as if I was on an un-medicated cycle. FS did explain to me that a few women never respond to clomid irrespective of the dosage, so henceforth no more Clomid for me...yay!
I also read something about clomid resistance and I'm one of those people whose ovaries are clomid resistant.

Like what happened in my last cycle, FS wanted me to jump on Puregon right away but not again. We would rather wait for my next cycle to begin so I get started on Puregon on CD2, "once beaten twice shy", he explained that with daily scans and further blood tests bla bla bla I should be fine but I insisted on waiting till my period shows up as I ddnt enjoy my experience in the last cycle.

Anyway, I've got the injectables and will start jabbing from CD2 of my next cycle. I have a 32 day cycle so that will be in March. The next IUI will definitely be my last IUI cycle before moving on to the dreaded IVF...my heart skips when I think of EPU but I reckon it's not as bad as I think. One step at a time and you flow along well...

That's all the update I've got here. I so can't wait for my next cycle to begin.

I'm sorry for ranting on and on, thanks for listening girls.

Thoughts.

sunnycoastgirl

16-02-2011, 18:12

Hi everyone
Dino, So jealous to hear you are able to have 3 months off! That will be wonderful for stress levels and helping you look after yourself!
HIIC, sorry to hear about your cycle being cancelled :( I had no idea some people were immune to clomid. Hope you start AF soon, its like afresh start every month.

I have my first scan tomorrow. I'm pretty excited! Trying to keep really positive instead of feeling sorry for myself all the time.
xoxo

aurora78

16-02-2011, 21:40

hi everyone ,

i have started taking my tabs for 2 days now and have 3 to go and have a us next thursday and then on the saturday need to give myself the injection as my hubby will be away once again at work. as he works in the mines. i have the procedure done on the monday 28th feb and im staying very positive as this is 1st time and lesley u are an inspiration as it worked for u so:fingerscrossed: we have :babydust1:too.
he is in control: that really sucks about not been able to do this cycle man its a long wait.
dino: thats great about taking some time off work.

prettydino

17-02-2011, 21:37

:hugs:Woohoo. One week and one day left of work.:cheerleader1: Had an interview for a permanent position with the hospital today. Yuck. but I don't think I said anything weird and definitely didn't accidentally regurgitate food or spit on anyone. Hopefully I'll be successful.:smiliedance:
Aurora, looks like we're at the same stage. I've also got another 3 tabs of clomid to go. I'll have my ultrasound on mon as my cycle is so short. I hope you grow a couple of nice spunky follicles!!

HIIC, it must be so frustrating. We're all together with you on this journey. Look at lesley, she's graduated and still with us!

Take care and everyone, have a nice weekend.:hugs:

prettydino

21-02-2011, 12:01

Hiya folks!:wave:

Here we go, starting the merry-go-round again.

Just had an ultrasound today. It's CD7 for me, and I've 3 follicles, 1 on the right and 2 on the left, all still quite small, around 12mm. Going to have a rescan on Thursday, with the iui expected to happen either Friday or Saturday.

Oh, I hope they grow (or 1 at least!!) nice and big! :fingerscrossed:

I was planning to go back to work this afternoon after taking the morning off for the appointment, but my husb says no, take the rest of the day and chill out, 'cos he wants those follicles to grow big and fat, haha. Isn't he sweet?:D

Sunny, any updates?

Aurora, how u doin with your tabs? Scan coming up soon, right?

Any progress from anyone else??

:babydust1:to all.

sunnycoastgirl

22-02-2011, 09:50

Hey Eveyone!
PD I have had 2 scans, one last thursday and one yesterday. On thursday they found a large cyst on my left ovary, I was pretty gutted. but they also found a good sized follicle on my right. I have had cysts in the past and this one is small in comparison, 4cm. We are going to go ahead with the procedure, probably tomorrow. The cyst is still growing but so is the folli. Folli yesterday was 15mm, so hopefully by tomorrow it will be closer to 20mm.
I am getting a bit of pain on my left ovary from the cyst but now I also have pain on my right from ovulation. I am still getting negative surge tests, so if I dont get a pos test by tomorrow i think i am just going to be given a shot to bring on ovulation and then do the procedure wed or thu.
Will keep you posted.
:fingerscrossed: For everyone on this cycle and :babydust1:

aurora78

22-02-2011, 17:08

hi dino yes i am about to have the us its on thursday lunch time and im hoping all is go well. as we are having the procedure the following monday . my hubby had to do the sample early as hes away at work so they just freeze it. i didnt have much of a reaction to hormones just sentive to hubbys soap oh well its a small price to pay. Hoping everyone is doing well . will keep u informed when know us results
:fingerscrossed: and :babydust1: for everyone

sunnycoastgirl

22-02-2011, 22:05

PD forgot to say :babydust1: for fri or sat.Hope it goes well, keep us posted :fingerscrossed:

moosmum2

24-02-2011, 12:51

Hi Girls

Pretty GL with Frr or Sat heaps and tones of:babydust1::babydust1:

Aurora- GL with Monday I have extra baby dust for you...:babydust1::babydust1:

Sunny- is that today or next Thu??... better add some for you too just in case I missed you, lol:babydust1::babydust1:

And I am heading to Monash IVF tomorrow!!! Can't wait so nervous- woke up at 4am having a little panic attack!!! i think I will go for a run in the morning to quell the nerves... We just got back from a 3 day get away at a friend holiday house was sooo relaxing:yes: DP was so disapointed that there was no BD!:laughing: Who can be bothered when we go at it like rabbits in the Fertile time!

Well I will check back in tomorrow.xxx

aurora78

24-02-2011, 15:58

moosmum2

24-02-2011, 18:22

hey guys, i went to have my us today and now the procedure is cancelled for this month as i have 3 follies and the doctor wouldnt go ahead with it. at present im feeling like **** and extremely emotional and to make things worse i need to host my baby sisters shower on sunday. im feeling very disappointed. Well :fingerscrossed::babydust1:for everyone else .

Aurora- I am sooo, sooo sorry! i have to say that this is one of my fears! I also had to host a baby shower for a friend two weeks after losing baby #2. All I can say is deep breaths and WINE!!!! Be extra kind to yourself. Bug massive hugs to you.xxx:hugs::hugs::hugs:

moosmum2

24-02-2011, 19:21

Ok girls ... I need your help as you have all probably worked out I am a little stress machine!!!

What will my first appt be like??? What do the do??? Will I get the full schedule?? should I print my BBT charts off for them, will they want them?? Do you pay for the whole process up front??? HELP!!!:freakingout::freakingout::freakingout: OKKkkkk maybe the 2lts of Zero aren't helping RIGHT NOW!!!lol:eek:

prettydino

24-02-2011, 19:51

Hi all!!

Moosmum, oooh. Good luck and please tell us all the details. I'm also very nervous about IVF, because that's the path I'm going down if this iui doesn't work. All the best. :smiliedance:
Aurora, so sad to hear your news. Very disappointing. So will u try again next cycle? Is there no way to convince your doc otherwise? Somedays I feel multiples are better than none. :hugs:to you.

Sunny, how's things?

Update from me:

My sister just gave birth to her baby girl yesterday. Surprisingly I didn't feel bad. I was actually incredibly excited for her and for myself (being promoted to status of auntie). Certainly I felt much better about the birth than about the news when she first got pregnant. Anyway I am glad she had a safe delivery and everything went well.

I had another scan today. Things have changed a little. 1 follicle per ovary 15.5mm each. And another 2 little ones that the doc wasn't interested in. Doc said still too small. So I gotta have another scan on Sat, with a view to triggering Sat night and iui Mon. So let's hope they keep growing! I'm wondering. Today is CD 10 for me and my cycle is usually only about 21 to 23 days long. Will I miss the boat somewhere while waiting for Monday? Maybe we should do some important activity (like BD) while waiting, hey?

:hugs: and :babydust1: to everyone who's having a go this cycle.

He is in control

25-02-2011, 07:40

Hello all :babydust1:

Pretty...After my last experience, I would BD all through the weekend to cover all gaps. So dear, you are good to go. Do it till all your strength is gone...Lol Congrats on your graduation and make sure you are a good auntie. Can't wait to one myself.

Aurora....:hugs:Sorry it happened that way. I know it sucks to have a whole cycle cancelled, enjoy the baby showers.

Moosmum...Relax honey, you certainly will have all the cost shedule and other things you need to know. For my last cycle, I paid on the insemination date.

Sunny...All the best this cycle. I know by now you would have had the insemination done.

Lesley... Our dear graduate, how are you going.

Have fun everyone, as you can imagine, there is nothing to report on my side.

Cheers!

moosmum2

25-02-2011, 15:41

Hi Girls:wave:

Here is an update from my end....

Ok so appt went well! My nervous have been settled and I feel full to the brim with information.

The nurses were really nice and friendly (the receptionist was a b*tch!) And Susan our nurse was very calming and took DP and I through the paces. DP was instructed on how to give the Puregon and the Pregnyl injections. As my AF is only days away we are not far from our first scan and injections! I can’t believe how excited I am about getting injected!:smiliedance:

I was also told to decrease the amount of exercise to 3 sessions a week I try to do 4-5 and slow down my zero intake from ( I am embarrassed to admit this) 2-3 lts a day to 600ml! But its fo a good reason I will be strong... I may go crazy!:freakingout:

So over all, a good day.
:babydust1:

prettydino

26-02-2011, 12:50

Hi all:wave:,

Wow. Moosmum. Things are hotting up for you. All the best with everything. Yeah, it seems receptionists can sometimes get a bit of an attitude, maybe it's something to do with being a gatekeeper or something to their "doctor". Gives an inflated sense of power. But I have met some nice ones too. These nurses by and large seem to be very nice, which is great for us fragile women!!

Had my scan today. Those 2 follicles seem to have bloomed over the course of one day, growing nicely to 19mm on one side and 18.5mm on the other. There's a third that is 14mm, but doc isn't concerned about that one. So he's told me it's "all-systems-go" for Monday!:cheerleader1: Going to inject the ovidrel at midnight tonight. I told DH we'll do some hanky-panky tonight, just in case!! Don't wanna miss the boat!

:babydust1:to all.

moosmum2

26-02-2011, 13:25

Pretty- GL this weekend;) Bring on Monday!

Well it seems my stay with you'all has been short and sweet. Out of interest and being the poas addict i am I did a HPT this morning and got a BFP!!!:bfp:
so it seems that I will cancel my iui, lol. Who would have thought???

But we are sooo sooo happy:smiliedance:. Love and baby dust to you all, i will still check in and see how you are all going.xxx

prettydino

27-02-2011, 00:01

:celebrate::celebrate::celebrate:

Moos, that is wonderful news! Isn't it strange how things work out? Here you are, all ready for the plunge and then nature decides to cooperate.

I am so happy for you.

That's TWO graduates from our little group.

Welldone! And I wish you all the best and smooth-sailing from now on. :cheerleader2::cheerleader1::cheerleader2::cheerle ader1:

Let's hope some of that :babydust1:comes our way!

He is in control

28-02-2011, 07:46

Moosmum...I'm more than happy for you. Congrats. I pray and wish you a happy and healthy 8+ months. You deserve it and I'm happy you didn't have to go through the ART again. :cheerleader2: You are right after Lesley and that gives me some hope that this thread is such a positive one.

Pretty...Goodluck today. Sending you baby vibes.

Hi everyone.:celebrate::babydust1::hugs::highfive:

prettydino

02-03-2011, 21:26

Hi everyone!:wave:

It's suddenly very quiet. How's everyone going? Anything going on, whether related to fertility or not?

I had my iui on Monday. Now in the 2ww. Trying to think up all sorts of activities to distract myself. Bought a "deal" from Spreets.com for a facial/massage/bodyscrub package. Spent it yesterday and it was a very nice distraction, I can tell you! Had gelato and a mocktail at a little cafe in Teneriffe. Haha. I could do with a lot more of these sorts of afternoons.:laughing:

Going to Sydney this weekend to attend a wedding and catch up with a couple of old friends, and I've been told it's Mardi Gras then, so hopefully there'll be lots happening that will continue to distract me. :hyper:

Have a good week, ladies.:babydust1:

moosmum2

03-03-2011, 06:52

Pretty- Fx for the iui- TWW now thats some brain pain ! Its good that you have been distracting yourself... what a busy weekend you have planned. I will be checking in to see how you go. Truck loads of baby dust to you:babydust1::babydust1:

sunnycoastgirl

04-03-2011, 16:38

Hi everyone :wave:
Good luck Pretty!! :fingerscrossed:for you
I'm in the tww now, day 21, its not fun. I had my progesterone blood test on wednesday, it seems that I did ovulate, and now i just have to be patient....
Hows everyone else going?

He is in control

07-03-2011, 07:42

Hi everyone,

Pretty & Sunny...You girls should enjoy the 2ww, I know how hard it is anyway and I wish you all the best, you should both be halfway through the 2ww now.

Moos & Lesley...Hope you graduates are enjoying the first trimester, here's to a healthy few more months for both of you.

Hope everyone is is doing fine like me.

Cheers!

aurora78

09-03-2011, 07:57

hi how is everyone doing, well hopefully we will be back to having a go this month as long as everything happens before the 27th as we are heading over to fiji for a wedding and bit of a holiday which will be great. well i hope all is going well for everyone and:fingerscrossed::babydust1: for all especially those waiting for the news meaning a yes/no

sunnycoastgirl

09-03-2011, 17:16

aurora78

09-03-2011, 18:01

thats great news so hope this keeps happening for all of us in the thread. its very encouraging that so many ones :celebrate: with lots of :babydust1:. it feels like there is hope for us ones that are still waiting for the life changing news. again congrads for the women who are now on their way to motherhood finally. :fingerscrossed: for the rest of us.

moosmum2

09-03-2011, 18:27

Hi everyone:wave:
So I had my blood test this morning... BFP!!! :hyper: :cheerleader1:
So in shock right now, I was thinking of calling the clinic back to check thy got the right person!! lol
Hope everyone else has some luck this cycle :fingerscrossed:

Congats Sunny!!!:celebrate::celebrate::cheerleader1::hyper : I wish you truck loads of stickyness:goodvibes:..belly rubs.xxx

He is in control

10-03-2011, 07:21

Woohoo!!! I said it, I said it, this thread is a POSITIVE one and I'm happy to be a part of it.

Congrats Sunny, my heart is so delighted reading your post. It boosts my confidence that everyone on this thread will eventually get a BFP. I wish you well honey, I wish you good health all through your pregnancy. I know how surreal everything might be right now....Enjoy it dear, you are UTD...Yay!

Pretty...Throwing you heaps of babydust. When are you testing? Kepp us posted.

No news on my side, just waiting for AF so I can start a new IUI cycle.

Have fun everyone...Yay! We have 3 great graduates now, who is next?

prettydino

11-03-2011, 09:45

Hello all!

Oh Sunnygirl, I am so happy for you!:celebrate: That is absolutely fantastic news. I wish you all the best for the future. Can you believe this thread?! THREE graduates now. Such positive vibes for the rest of us! :smiliedance:

I don't test until next Tuesday, but I am not holding any hopes up, as I started getting a bit of spotting today, which usually heralds AF. Am a little disappointed, but trying to be brave and think that at least, I am a healthy woman who still has other options to investigate.

Good vibes and good health to all. :babydust1:

prettydino

11-03-2011, 14:13

:freakingout:Aargh.

This uncertainty is terrible. Dark brown spotting. D11 post iui and CD 25 in general. Rang the clinic for a bit of advice because I'm finding it difficult to deal with this whole business.:freakingout:

Certainly too early to test at this stage. And I can't tell whether it's my period or implantation. Even with AF, I would normally get a couple of days of this dark brown spotting before the fullblown AF arrives.

It seems I'll simply have to wait out the weekend and see if anything declares itself.:(

Sulk. Sulk.

Blister on left little toe. Recovering from a cold. Gosh, I'm a little bundle of misery today. :eek:

Sorry, girls. just gotta whinge to someone.

Have a nice weekend, all.

sunnycoastgirl

12-03-2011, 06:55

Pretty, aurora, and HIIC don't give up till AF arrives. I went to my blood test, I thought, as a formality, cos I "Knew" I wasn't pregnant! lol I think my mind had decided not too get my hopes up so I wasn't too disapointed when AF arrived. I even told the lady who takes my blood that I would see her again in 2 weeks cos I thought this one hadn't worked. Anyhoo... don't give up hope yet ;)
:babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babydust1::babyd ust1: to you all xoxo

aurora78

12-03-2011, 12:31

hi sunny im not giving im just waiting for AF to arrive so that hopefully this month we can have our first iui cycle:fingerscrossed:. as we are due to go on holidays on the 27th of this month and wont be back til 6th of april so lets pray that they turn up soon. im not doing any hormones this month doc wants to see if works without,due to having too many follies last month 3 wouldnt do procedure,which bloody deversating for us.yet hopefully this month will be different as it would be great to fall pregnant just before sis has her bundle of joy that will be bittersweet for me and hubby. well we catch up when have more news.

sunnycoastgirl

12-03-2011, 18:53

Aurora :fingerscrossed: for you. Good luck :babydust1:

prettydino

12-03-2011, 22:56

AF has declared herself!:(

Rang up the practice nurse yesterday and she said I had to miss out this month and go through some education/interview session which lasts over an hour and which apparently goes through details of ivf, if that is indeed what I wish to pursue next.

Slept on it last night. Talked it over with the man of the house.

Decided to ring the doctor this morning (despite it being Saturday) and see if I could speak with the man directly. I'm tired of nurses telling me all sorts of things. I wanted to speak with the medical man himself. He was kind enough to return my call and gave me my options after 2 unsuccessful iui attempts:

1. do another iui (same regimen)
2. do iui with injectables (but he didn't like this as he said I'd responded adequately with clomid)
3. do an exploratory laparoscopy (but he acknowledged that he couldn't see anything in my history/exam that would suggest structural problems, and so this surgery may not yield much or change the plan ultimately)
4. ivf

I told him what we'd decided. We were going to go for option 4. He agreed that it was a reasonable option and that I was to start the pill right away and see him within the next week to talk me through the process. I thought it was weird to go on the pill when I am trying to conceive, so had to do a little 'light' reading of my own after we hung up. I am now more convinced about the purpose of the pill.:rolleyes:

So looks like I will take the plunge and move on to the next step. I'm sh*t scared of what it entails, but also excited in a way, that I'm taking another (albeit different) affirmative step towards our final goal.

I'm glad this is such a friendly thread to vent in. I am not in a very good head space right now.

He is in control

14-03-2011, 07:23

Hey Pretty...So sorry it turned out this way but I'm happy you are taking on a more comprehensive and more certain approach. I pray this new step brings you your much deserved joy and life changing experience...Motherhood. I'm pretty much positive that this step will yield some good news for you. Hang on dear, my heart is with you. You are not alone dear.

Sunny...Thanks for the encouragement and I hope you are enjoying the first few weeks. All the best dear.

Aurora...We may be cycling together as it appears we are the only 2 people remaining on the IUI journey. I've got no clue when my next cycle begins as I'm still waiting for AF so I can start my medications on day 2. Like I said sometime in the past, I'm only doing 1 more IUI after which (if unsuccessful) I will move on to IVF. I'm saving really hard for this.

I've been so moody and un-interested in anything of late. I can't help my self. To cap my frustration up, just last week Sunday, a friend asked if I was pregnant......arrrrrgh, I just burst into tears as she was so rude about it, she said I look pregnant, my face by body, my tummy everything looks pregnant. I quietly told her that I wish I was but I'm not, she was embarassed.

Anyway girls, take care of you and have a pleasant week.

Pretty...Have you got any plans ahead, I mean other things to keep you busy in the 3 month period? If not, then rest well and enjoy the procedure. If I had the money I would do an IVF straightaway and probably take a month off too...lol

prettydino

14-03-2011, 10:05

Hi HIIC,

Thanks for your words. And how could your friend be so rude?! Why is it that people think they have the right to ask and comment on such a sensitive topic??

I am apprehensive about the ivf journey but also strangely elated that I am moving on.

I have started the Pill in preparation for the next step and am now waiting for the doc's rooms to ring back with an appointment time for discussion. It's funny how some receptionists are so like the door bouncers of night clubs!:rolleyes:

As for things I'm going to do to fill my time in while I'm off work, I've got some work-related study to do (although it's difficult to stop reading about fertility related stuff and read about something else!). Planning to join the gym and start a get-fit program and perhaps join a local community orchestra (I started lessons 5 years ago as an adult).

Chat soon.

lissyloulou

18-03-2011, 21:25

Hi ladies,
Just read this whole thread and i'm joining!
First iui was this month. Did fsh injections for 7 days. 2 beautiful follies, trigger injection and then iui next day that was 2 weeks ago today. Although af not due til tuesday, had terrible cramps last night and today. Spotting last night and today so called doc thinking today was day 1. Picked up new drugs this arvo but now I've stopped bleeding(well didn't really start yet). Now I guess need to see if af comes properly tomorrow. Have done hpt, was negative 2 days in row.
Af is just so light and comes and goes for 5 days these days that it's hard to tell.
We have been ttc naturally for almost 2 years. Seeing naturopath for about 8 months of that and fertility herbs for 2 months. I too have been feeling so much better since we decided to do iui, just taking positive action helps I feel. Hubby not coping as well as me though:(
Best wishes to all xo

He is in control

19-03-2011, 07:16

Lissyloulou...Welcome darl:hugs:I pray AF doesn't show up and if it does, then we will be cycle buddies and we can share the journey together. I know how tough it is to be TTC for 2 years as my journey is very close to 2 years too.

It's good to take charge of this issue and be proactive about it so it's a good that you have decided to start with IUI. I pray your journey is short and sweet.

My cycles are fairly long (32 days) which means even if AF shows up for you now, you might be ahead of me in the insemination.

As per naturopath and herbs, I've been there as well, for 6 months I was dedicated to acupuncture and traditional chinese herbs but I decided to stop as it wasn't doing much for me, I guess it doesn't work for everyone plus it's quite costly and no medibank rebate for me.

How long is your cycle and which clinic are you with?
Which FSH are you using?

All the best dear and chat soon.

Aurora...What's happening? Are you cycling this month? I know you have a great holiday ahead, I'm just wondering if the timing is adequate for you. Let us know.

Looks like we are the only 3 iui candidates remaining on this thread.

Hope everyone else is travelling fine.

Chat soon.

lissyloulou

19-03-2011, 08:31

Yep AF showed up big time during night...have had spotting since Thursday so counted yesterday as day 1. Did first injection this morning.

I'm on 50 of perugon. Cycle usually 27 days, however this first cycle of iui it shortened to 23! Never been so happy to have a short cycle, at least it means I get to start again quickly. Before TTC all I wanted was a longer cycle so I wouldn't see AF so often!

I'm with CFC in Brisbane, but I just do pickup and drop offs there. All procedures done at my FS office in spring hill. She is so lovely, to the point but really cool. She has said we will do 3 - 4 x iui, then if no luck another laparoscopy then onto ivf. I had a lap about 3.5 years ago.

So my appointment for US is on friday, with hopefully a trigger shot then and transfer on sat morn. I ovulate early naturally. However we didn't start injections till day 3 last time so the follies may not be big enough. We will see! It was pretty cool the first time as we literally went to FS on day 2 and started treatment the very next day, no waiting. She just said let's get you pregnant!
I think the reason she was so cool about it though is that I have known her for years due to endo & lap operation. We saw her 12 months ago and she offered to start us on treatment then but we didn't feel we'd tried for long enough naturally. Saw her again a few months ago just before a 1month trip to the US and said if we didn't fall preg on holidays we would come back. Gave it another 3 months and still no luck so here we are.

You know the whole - you guys just need to relax and have a good holiday!! Seriously the next person that said that to me was going to get decked...I was seriously losing the plot. Every baby in shopping centre, relatives with accidents who don't even really want to be pregnant...blah, blah, blah. And along with this I have been struggling for past 2 years to be medication free as I was so scared of being on anti-d's and the effect on the baby. Both my FS and my pdoc think my anxiety/panic are probably hindering me falling preg, and I got to the point about a month ago that I knew I just couldn't live like this anymore. Doc has started me off on low dose of zoloft. I am not depressed at all but apparently some anti-ds in low doses also treat anxiety. It's only been a few days and I must say I don't really like feeling emotionally a bit blunted, but if it helps keep me calm and therefore my body can fall preg then I think it's worth it. I've been told that I may be able to wean off late in pregnancy if I want to as some women have a positive hormonal response which eases anxiety, but I have also seen that some women on bubhub have stayed on low doses of zoloft during whole preg and bf and bubs were fine. Apparently it's one of the safer ones to be on.

So that's me! HIIC let me know when you start your injections! I've lost track of who else is on this month:) btw I love your name, I always say about this journey it's in God's time not mine. Acceptance and surrender has helped me to let go and let God. Funnily enough since starting iui all the babies and relatives and well meaning people have not bothered me one bit. Like you said, taking action is where it's at. So we're doing all we possibly can and the rest is with God and I kind of feel like the pressure is off iykwim. I never thought that starting treatment would be less pressure, but for me it is. Unfortunately it seems that it's the opposite for hubby. We've talked about it and he hates the lack of control/is very frustrated. Best that he's the one feeling that way though and not me, and I don't intend to go out in sympathy! We're the vessels here so I'm glad that I'm not feeling like that anymore. I need to just let him feel what he's feeling and not try to control him. He goes very quiet, whereas I like to talk things out. I just need to respect that we each deal with things differently and keep myself in the good head space I'm in now. This journey has thus far taught me to be grateful for the fact that we have each other and how lucky we are to be in a relationship where we both want the same thing. It's so easy to look at the one thing we don't have, but it's everything else that we do have that I try to focus on right now. I feel very blessed to have such a clucky hubby who loves me and I love back!

Xo

Schnauzer

19-03-2011, 09:56

Hello,

I've been reading this thread since the start so feel as though I already know you, so I'll introduce myself and give you a little bit of my history.

My name is Jade, I'm 29 and my DH is 30, we are doing IUI as my husband has had multiple cancer treatments and we need to use frozen sperm, I've had all the tests including a HyCoSy and then had that followed up with a historoscopy to remove a uterine adhesion, while they were in there they said the tubes looked good.

After all of this which seemed to take months I had 2 rounds of IUI the last one in resulting with a BFP but it ended with a MC at 5W6D on November 12th. I was devastated and still am. I was going to start more IUI, 2 cycles ago but my husband became sicker, and had to have more radiotherapy, this finishes on Wednesday so I am booking in for this cycle, just waiting for AF which is due today but my cycles can vary by 2-3 days.

I am through the public hospital at RPA, so I haven't had to pay for anything, if I progress on to IVF it will be another story though, they want me to do 6 cycles of IUI though first.

I don't take any medication or do any ultrasounds, I go in around day 9 every morning for bloods, and by lunch time my results are in, when I surge they get me to come in that afternoon for treatment, so my treatment cycles seem rather different to all of yours, maybe just due to the reason I am having IUI. At least I know it has worked before, I just have to hope for a healthier embryo this time.

Anyway, it will be good to have some buddies with me this cycle, :fingerscrossed: for us all.

Jade

lissyloulou

19-03-2011, 10:26

Oh my goodness jade, you are so brave:hugs:
I can't even begin to imagine what your journey has been like/is like.
Wishing you the very best with this cycle:fingerscrossed: and your husbands health.
The MC must have been heartbreaking, it scares me to even think about it...one positive I guess is that you know your body can fall pregnant. I have yet to ever have a BFP. All those years of wishing for BFNs seem like a lifetime ago...never imagined we would be here.
Well we're all hoping for the same thing and I'm so encouraged by the positive results that have so far happened in this group. Let's hope we all graduate soon and can be there for each other in the process xo

lissyloulou

19-03-2011, 10:53

Me again:p
I really think I've turned the corner with regards to realizing I'm not doing anything wrong you know? Like I'm not a bad person who just needed to be a bit more of that, less of that, rah rah. My hubby turned around last night and was like 'right, this time we are going to be more clued in and do this and you need to do this and exercise this much etc'. The penny really dropped for me and Instead of getting angry I just said 'honey, we haven't done anything wrong! it's not going to make us more likely to fall preg if we just try harder! We have been punishing ourselves for so long with restrictions and it hasn't helped one bit. I finally realize that this is not about me having eaten this, or done that wrong. I'm not changing anything, infact I'm just going to forget we're even doing this. If I want to exercise I will etc. This is just chance and life, and it's not fair sometimes and it doesn't always go our way. It will one day! We just need to get back on the horse until it does!'
Does anyone else get what I mean? I'm sick of trying! I think this is the key for me!
And with regards to massive post earlier, just wanted to say that I do believe in God but i totally respect anyone else's right to believe in anything. Just throwing that out there as didn't want to alienate anyone with my comments. We're all just trying to do the best with the cards we are dealt. With all this blabbing maybe I need a diary...sorry for taking over the thread!! xo

He is in control

20-03-2011, 14:57

Hi girls :highfive:,

Schnauzer...Welcome on board, I hope and pray everything works out fine for you this next iui cycle. I'm sorry about your husband's health chalenges and all you've been through together. We should however be grateful because whoever has life has hope. I pray this year brings you your much deserved BFP and a full term pregnancy with a healthy bub to show for it. I also feel you are so lucky to have a much simpler procedure than most of us here, :fingerscrossed: for a good sail this next round. We will all be here for you honey, when you need to whinge, when you need to talk talk talk, when you even need to transfer some angression, we are here to shoulder it all. Yes!!!

Lissy..Hey hey, I read every line of your last 2 posts and something makes me feel like it's my DH on bubhub. Most of the things you talked about are quite similar to mine except for few differences. I no for sure that you've had a rough road too, but I see light at the end of the tunnel and I'm pretty sure we will laugh at last.

I do not know anything about medications for anxiety or anything hence I wouldn't have comments to post regarding that.

But dear, I'm super frustrated about this whole journey and I've never in my life fallen pregnant. I've never been scared of falling pregnant too as I was not sexually active until I got married in 2009. I'm finding the journey really difficult to cope with and I struggle with thoughts of never having a bub to love and cuddle but at the back of my mind, I live with a deep sense of assurance that all will be well and I will have as many kids as I want. It's just a matter of time.

For everything, there is an appointed time, a time to plant and a time to harvest, I hold to this words to tightly and I know my harvest time is near.

I'm also with CFC Brisbane and like you, I only do pick ups and drop offs at the CFC clinic, I do every other thing in my FS room which is fortunately within the same complex just on another floor.

I love my FS too, I have no reasons for loving him but I do. I have only done 1 iui cycle with him and he got it all stuffed up but I took as it was. I just concluded that the cycle wasn't meant to work. He actually missed out the ovulation and gave me a trigger injection not realizing I had ovulated earlier. Anyway, I got my period in less than a week after the insemination. That's an effect of not having enough scans / closer monitoring. He's promised to keep a closer look this time.

I'm on Puregon 50mg too and I've started my injections 2 days ago but my cycles are fairly long, without mediactions, I ovulate late, with medications, I guess the difference won't be much, may be just a day or 2, will see.

Ok, so I go in for a scan on Friday 25/03/11 to see where we are at and of course will have to schedule further scans untill the follies are well grown. Insemination should be around day 18 of my clcle and I'm only on day 4, so I still have about 2 weeks to go.

I was also advised by FS that if 4 IUI cycles do not work, then I will go in for a lap and then IVF, I want everything sorted out this year and I can't wait again. I'm also saving hard to make ends meet.

I'm with you on the don't do this, do this thing. Oh! I hate being told not to eat or exercise or this or that, it just adds to the pressure for me and makes me feel like I'm doing things wrong. I discussed with FS and he thinks we are ok, he thinks we do everything right and says we should live our normal life and remain healthy just for the baby's sake.

I had a friend around over the weekend and she's got this 9 month old gorgeous little girl, it was so hard and emotional for me to cope knowing that I deserve to have a 9 month old too, anyway, I'm keeping my faith up and trusting that God will make a way in this seeming wilderness, I just can't wait to sing my songs of praise :babydust1::celebrate:
I would love to implore you girls to take it easy, know that you are not the only one facing troubles with TTC and every woman deserves to be happy and fulfilled, one day, very soon, your time will come and your light will shine for everyone to see.

Lissy, it's good you are taking over the thread, I like your spirit and attitude towards the whole thing, keep on moving girl, as long as we don't stop, we will reach our destination, no matter how long the journey is, no matter how rough the road is, once you keep going, once you dn't stop/ give up, then you will arrive at your expected destination soon. Hang in there.

There used to be a couple of more people on this thread but they have all either graduated with BFPss or moved ahead with other / better plans. I miss everyone's contribution though, but I guess life goes on.

Remaining on this IUI journey is...
...Aurora
...Lissy
...Schnauzer
...HIIC

All the best to everyone.

Aurora, if you are reading this, please let's know how you are going and what plans you have ahead.

Here's wishing everyone :babydust1:

aurora78

20-03-2011, 15:59

hi everyone how are we all,
hiic to answer your question no we wont be doing a cycle this month as due to the timing been out to have us as wont be here and will be on holidays,yet we will be using our trip as a second honeymoon as this year we have been married 5 yrs and its the same place we had our honeymoon so lets hope it brings good vibes 4:babydust1::fingerscrossed:. havent been very well myself spend all yesterday hanging over the toilet bowl wasnt fun at all so im hoping to be on mend now though. man people that are pregnant at times give me the ****s :hair: take my sister she has month to go and shes complaining all the time and also one of the girls i work with has 6wks to go and all she does at times is complain too. man i think and just want to shout out just enjoy it and it wont be long now man i soo so wish it was us but thats a fact of life. well not much else welcome to the new girls and wishing u lots of success.

talk soon

prettydino

21-03-2011, 10:58

Hello all,

And welcome to the new ladies on board! :wave:

I hope you don't mind me continuing on this thread, even though I have moved on to the IVF rollercoaster; because I just feel like I know you all already and am very comfortable and interested in the ladies of this group. :hugs:

Liss and Schnauzer, I hear you both. Especially about the self-imposed restrictions. Now I can understand why others who have walked the same road keep telling me, you need to be kind to yourself during this time! And I am trying to go by that dictum. Although there are days of immense self-loathing and reproach.

I too, am with CFC, but the Sunnybank branch.

I have been on the birth control pill to suppress ovulation and just started on the Synarel nasal spray to do more hormonal suppression. The spray leaves a yuckky taste in the mouth, just like the nurse warned it would! Will start jabs later.

Same thing here, I have never been pregnant before and so am worried about whether I can even fall preggers. But have vowed to continue with my life and not allow this process to dictate everything. Luckily hubby is quite a philosophical kind of man and with his help, I am trying to stay positive and matter-of-fact. For example, you have diabetes, you see the dr and take tablets. I have trouble falling pregnant, so I see the dr and get treatment - no major difference. We have a problem and we go seek help. Sounds so practical, doesn't he?

Glad to hear you all. Stay well.:smiliedance::babydust1:

He is in control

22-03-2011, 07:40

Hi Pretty...Thanks for sharing where you are up to in your cycle. We are more than pleased to have you onboard. Infact, I personally wouldn't mind having every graduate back on this thread but I understand when it's time to move on, they you move. I'm super duper happy that you don't want to leave us alone here.

Yay for the synarel, I wish you well this cycle:goodluck: and I'm right after you. Do you have an idea of how much it costs to do an IVF cycle with CFC? Just want a rough idea so I can know how hard I still have to work to to get the full amount as we do not have a medicare cover.

Lissy...How are you going with the injects? Any side effects? Let's know what's up with you.

Schnauzer...Hope you and DH are keeping up fine. Are you still expecting AF?

Lesley...Just in case you are reading this, my heart goes out to you today. I hope you are enjoying your first trimester. Not so long now you will be in the safer Zone. I believe God will see you through this one and a healthy baby will soon come forth.

Chat soon girls!

prettydino

22-03-2011, 08:55

Hi HIIC,

CFC gave me a kind of fee table. From what I can gather, the costs for CFC services are around $6400. If you have Medicare and private health cover, then your out-of-pocket expenses will be around $2500 or so.

Then, in addition to that, you have to add on:
- the consultation fees for your gynaecologist, which can be variable to the individual practitioner
- theatre fees for the hospital where the egg retrieval is done
- anaesthetist's fees (I think this is around $400 to 500)
- costs of all meds used - none of these are Medicare-rebatable - Synarel was $110! I don't know how much the Gonal-F will be yet, and there'll be progesterone pessaries to pay for too and those are about $180 for 15
- embryo freezing is another $300 for the 1st 6 months, i think, then the price goes down for subsequent time periods
- embryo transfer - $300
If your doctor or you choose to do some fancy stuff like egg glue, then that'll cost extra too.

But CFC said, they will only charge once the egg retrieval is complete. If the cycle gets cancelled prior to the egg retrieval for whatever reason, then the fees will not go ahead, other than what I've paid for meds so far.

All in all, a lot of $$$.:eek:

lissyloulou

22-03-2011, 11:08

hi gals,
Just a quick post:rolleyes:

injections going ok...was sweating it up last night though, real hot flushes. however i can't be sure it's from the fsh as i'm having some medication issues.
doc put me on zoloft last week, was on it for 6 days very small amount as you have to build it up slowly. anyway i have been so sick/unable to sleep/horrific headaches i just stopped taking it yesterday. so only took it for 6 days. stupid thing is i'm not depressed and doc put me on anti-d as i have high anxiety/panic stuff. due to wanting to fall preg and being sober for a few years my options are limited. i can't go on benzos (anti-anxiety meds) as they are addictive, not to mention not real safe for preg.
went back to my naturopath yesterday feeling absolutely shocking. the anti-ds were actually making me depressed i was so sick! she has got me trialling this natural stuff called PreGaba, i am also going to try L-theanine. apparently natures answer to anti-anxiety medication. she called a lady she knows who is apparently a guru in natural mental health to discuss my case. fingers crossed it helps as i would so love to not be on meds (have been med free for about 5 months until very recently). anyway i have another psych appt on 7/04 so i have 2 weeks to trial this stuff. God please help this work!!

back to TTC:D
my ultrasound is booked for this Friday 25/3 - same as you HIIC:highfive: (eventhough i know you ovulate later, at least it's the start of your process too)

potential IUI on sat morn as i ovulate super early (last cycle was on day 9).
last cycle started fsh on day 3 through to day 8 (6 days), implant day 9

this cycle started fsh on day 1 or 2 (i thought was day 2, but not sure now as i have really light AF these days)
so fsh from day 1/2 through to day 7/8, implant will be day 8/9

let's go little eggs!!!:smiliedance:

prettydino - so glad you are sharing your ivf journey with us, it's very interesting and something we may experience ourselves if IUI doesn't work so keep it coming!

lesley76

22-03-2011, 14:10

Hello there:wave:

How is everyone going? I see we have quite a few new faces. How exciting:smiliedance:

I'm sorry for vanishing for a while but I had some suspicious minds snooping me so I made myself invisible for a while. I am past the 12 week point now so I don't mind who knows.
It's nice to be able to talk again :yes:.

My Dear HIIC, How are you? Don't worry I have still been reading the updates and I am very excited to hear that you are nearly ready for your next iui. I hope and pray that this is the one for you :cheerleader1::cheerleader1::cheerleader1:. I hope the puregon gets those follies nice and big!! I have a good feeling about this one. As for not eating this and that or exercising etc...I did everthing that I normally would during my IUI experience. I don't think we need any added pressure during this stressful time. I am looking forward to your scan results.

Pretty:wave: You are moving on to IVF....it's a bit scary but at the same time sooo exciting!!! You will have you BFP in No time now:smiliedance:. I like your husbands philosophy on fertility treatment. I feel exactly the same way. At least our children will be very much loved and wanted....probably a bit spoilt too :yes:
I can't wait to hear how your first cycle goes. I hope the pill isn't messing you around too much.

Lissy and schnauser, I hope you both get you Bfp's soon. You have come to the right place for support and advise. I look forward to following you on your journeys.

Also a big congrats to the other ladies who got their BFP's! We have a lucky thread going here.

Afm, I am doing really well. I am nearly 13 weeks now so can start to relax a LITTLE. I had my 12 week NT scan yesterday. It was all good and I am low risk for downs syndrome. Not that it would make a difference to me anyway. It was really nice to see bub again, man that little one is getting BIG. So is my stomach. The trouble is that I don't look pg I just look like I have a fat guts lol.
I had to quit my job due to them stressing the crap out of me...I think I was complaining about this a while ago. Anyway I started having some spotting around the same time so I made the decision to leave. Looking back I don't know if the spotting and stress were related but I wasn't taking any chances. I
We miss the bit of money I was brining in but we are coping fine. It's pretty boring being at home all the time but i am making the most of my sleep ins. Also being at home all the time means having constant access to the fridge....NOT GOOD..... I am still doing my Zumba 3 times a week so hopefully am burning up those extra Tim Tams and cheese sandwiches. Exercise has really helped me during this first trimester..
Anyway :ecomcity::ecomcity::ecomcity:

I hope you are all well

Lesley
P.s My real name is Denise :wave:

He is in control

23-03-2011, 08:33

Hi everyone:highfive:,

Pretty...Thanks for the load down, I really appreciate it, now I know I have to work towards saving up to $10,000 before I can kick off the journey. As I said earlier on, no medicare rebate for me, I'm a foreigner and we are not covered by any medicare rebate until we have PR, what a shame, not that the rebate is super fantastic but at least it's something. Anyway, will keep saving and keep praying that I don't have to proceed with the procedutre AND if I have to go ahead, then I will as nothing, no money can stop me from achieving my ultimate goal in life...Motherhood!

Lissy...Take it easy darl, just take on that philosophy that Pretty talked about the other day. There is a cure for every sickness, there is a cure for our fertility issues and I know whatever has a beginning must surely have an end.
I wish I was blessed enough to have short cycles like most girls on this thread, but my body is just "silly". It takes its time to respond to anything..eek!

I'm happy to run this race with you girls, :fingerscrossed: for a well growing follicle on Friday, I can't wait. I've also got no reactions to the puregon, I hope it's doing what its meant to do.

Lesley...My super duper buddy, I always find your posts inspiring and encouraging. Thanks for sharing your journey with us. I respect your silent days and I understand what you mean, now that you are in a safer zone, you can feel free to discuss and whoever wants to know can know at this stage.

Hope you've shared the great news with family members and friends or are you still taking your time.

Thanks a lot Lesley for feeling positive about this cycle, I also told DH last night that I feel positive that this cycle is the one for me. I just hope I'm not fooling around. We'll see soon:fingerscrossed:

Yay! for leaving the job, it's better to be safe than to be sorry. Somethings have to get out of the way in order for us to achieve our dreams. I will probably do the same if my job was physically demanding, thankfully, it's not, so I hope I won't have to quit as my little income means so much more to DH and I as we are international students...you know what I mean. DH pays $11,000 every semester, that's a total of $22,000 every year, no part payments, no installemental payments etc...anyway, we'll be fine by his grace.

I hold you in my prayers and I know for sure that your pregnancy will be fruitful and will progress well through the next 6 months or so. At waht stage are they able to determine bub's gender?

Have fun everyone.

lesley76

23-03-2011, 10:46

HiiC, Is it hard to get your pr? My DF is South African and he had just got his pr before we met. Will you be able to get it soon? I agree with what you say, we would have done ivf without even a second thought about the cost. Although it is A LOT, we didn't care. We just wanted our bub.

It was really fun telling our families over the weekend, especially my Mum. She is going to come over with my Sister for the birth. I am very excited as we have no family here. Df's family is in South Africa and my family is in Melbourne. So it will be nice to have them here.
I did get a few strange reactions, which I'm sure you girls will encounter when you announce your bfp's. A couple of girlfriends who are ttc have not returned my msg's. I guess I understand as I know how hard it is to hear that sort of news. I will just give them some time.

I think it is around 20 weeks that you can find out the sex. I don't know if we will. It is tempting though :yes: I think I will just try to scruitinize the ultra sound pics when I get that far. You girls can help me. :)

I really really really hope we get some bfps this cycle!!!!!:hyper::smiliedance::cheerleader1::cheer leader2:

Schnauzer

23-03-2011, 15:45

Hi All, just a quick update as to where my cycle is at.

I've finally worked my cycle times out since my MC, so last month was my long month usually about 31-32 days, AF turned up on Tuesday morning, I start blood testing on April Fools Day, with an expected IUI on the following Tuesday, this month being my shorter month should be around 29 days. It seems my left and my right ovary aren't in sync, which is OK, as long as they both do the job :)

My husband had his last radiotherapy session today, so no more trips to the hospital till my testing starts, and now I can get on top of things at home also.

Hope you are all well, will do a longer post next time when i'm not so rushed.

He is in control

24-03-2011, 10:11

Hi Lesley... Yeah it's quite hard to get a PR these days, you have to live in Australia continuously for 2years before you are eligible to apply. They keep changing the immigration laws. We have only been here for 1 year so hopefully we will put in our application by March / April 2012. Thanks for asking dear. We are West Africans and that's not too far from South Africa.

I understand so well that there will be different reactions when you share such news so no surprises here. Just keep calm and enjoy your pregnancy.
Yay! for having mum and your sister come around at the birth time, oh, how good is that, I wish!!!

Schnauzer...Continue to be the strong woman that you are. I know you've been through stuffs and all you deserve is a healthy bub to compensate you, I'm keeping everything crossed for you honey. This cycle will work fine and please, take enough rest in the midst of everything, your body also deserves some time off ok. I wish I had a drug free cycle...lol

No news from me girls, just keeping :fingerscrossed: for great updates come Friday afternoon.

Have fun everyone and chat soon.

prettydino

24-03-2011, 23:21

Hi all,

I went through the PR application many years ago (I think about 10?) and it was a pain in the butt then. I'm sure it's worse now. I had to wait 2 years before I was eligible to utilise any of the government support services, like Medicare. Good luck HIIC, I hope the DIMA doesn't make it too tough for you.

Lesley (Denise), you are such an inspiration to us. Keep talking to us, I find it helps me stay positive and hopeful!

Girls, you are all women of strength and fortitude! :smiliedance:Keep your spirits up and we will all get there one day.

DH has ended up with bronchitis and is now on antibiotics. I hope he recovers before we need his contribution around midApril!!!

I'm going ok with the pill and the Synarel. Felt a little "flushy" the last couple days but that could be because it's been insanely hot too! :)

A close friend of mine, who conceived through her first cycle of ivf, had her twins (1 boy and 1 girl) delivered today by elective cesarean. I am so happy for her and will try and visit her this weekend. She has been :celebrate:chatting to me through facebook trying to keep me optimistic. It's anecdotes like this that help lift our spirits, I think!

He is in control

25-03-2011, 10:27

Hey everyone,

Pretty, thanks for those encoraging words and I must confess that your friends twin children is so inspiring. Please go visit her and if possible get some baby stuffs on your way for her. Your time is near and we will all come to visit you, thank God you are in Brisbane! Lol

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH! No good news peeps. Ah ah! I'm so so sick of everything right now. Here's the GO...

So I went in for scan today (day 9) and I had 8 big follicles (5 on the right and 3 on the left). The smallest of them was 16.5mm..............Oh :freakingout::laughing: I'm close to tears right now. Of course, FS wont go ahead, I have over responded to the injects this time. :laughing: after spending $600 on Puregon, all I heard from FS was to go and get some condoms or stay completely away from intercourse until my next period :laughing: I've been trying for almost 2 years now and this has happened to me.

I begged Fs to go ahead and do the insemination but he wouldn't agree, he says the risk of multiples is higher than 50% in this instance:freakingout:I so much want a child and I dont mind, I just want to be a mother and he said NO WAY this cycle. He was quite gentle with me, infact he was practically pleading that we stay away from intercourse. I'm frustrated mates!:confused:

I now know how Aurora felt when she had a cancelled cycle last month.

First IUI cycle ...Stuffed up
Second IUI cycle...Cancelled, no response to Clomid.
Third IUI cycle...Cancelled, too many follies

I'm just frustrated girls and that's all I can say right now, I'm in tears, ah ah, how can this 2011 start this way for me. Oh, I'm so sick. I need to cry... I will talk to you all later and of course I treasure your suggestions girls.

What would you do if you were in my shoes. OMG:eek::freakingout::confused::( I'm in tears right now. Now I can no longer be a mother in 2011. Last chance for this year gone!!!

prettydino

25-03-2011, 10:50

Dear HIIC,

I can practically feel the anguish in your post. The sorrow and frustration is palpable.

I am so sorry to hear this. I think if I was in your shoes, I would also have tried very hard to persuade the doctor to proceed - the urge to become a mother is indeed so strong in all of us that we would sacrifice almost anything (even our own health) to attain motherhood. Afterall in my mind (and probably in yours as well), there is no guarantee that even if the iui went ahead, that all the follicles would release eggs and indeed all be fertilised, is there? Is it at all possible that it can be converted to ivf? But I know that financially it will be a big strain.

I am bad to say this to you but I am sure your doctor has reasons of his own and he must have to deal with countless women in the same desperate situation.

HIIC, know that we are with you and we feel your grief. :hugs:

prettydino

25-03-2011, 12:23

Another thought just came.

If the iui/sex went ahead and u did end up conceiving a dangerous number of multiples, is it possible to have a fetal reduction procedure performed?

Any thoughts from your doctor?

He is in control

25-03-2011, 16:50

Pretty dear... I quote you...

"Afterall in my mind (and probably in yours as well), there is no guarantee that even if the iui went ahead, that all the follicles would release eggs and indeed all be fertilised, is there? Is it at all possible that it can be converted to ivf?"

You have perfectly spoken my mind which is what I told the doctor, I told him there is no probability all 8 will release and get fertilised. I even told him there is no better chance of the iui working but I want it done anyway. I said everything I could to persuade him but he wouldn't go ahead:no:

Fetal reduction? Oh my Pretty it's Good to be a doctor you know, never heard this in my entire life and the FS didn't even talk about it. He just kept on ranting about how dangerous it is for me to conceive this month. Ah ah! He was pleading not to even have intercourse or use condom bla bla bla.

I told him my odds of getting preggers naturally are low, after all I've tried without success for about 2 years, he said well just don't take this risk, which risk? I just can't see any risk. Can't he see the desperation in me?

Ah ah, I would have talked about the IVF thing but I told my self, what if he says to go ahead with IVF? Do we have the money now. DH and I are onlly about half way through our savings for the total cost of IVF do no way.

He ended the discussion by saying since I will never respond to high dosage of clomid and I will over respond to Puregon, then his best suggestion is to move on straight to IVF so he can have everything under control.

Look dear, what do you think I should do?
Buy condoms?
Take the "risk" and keep my fingers crossed?
Relax and forget about it?
Stay away from sex and wait for AF?
If you were in my exact shoes, what would you do? Please I respect everyone's opinion right now as DH and I can't even think straight again. Your comments will go a long way as we dont know what to do. We have never even used a condom as there has been no time we were trying to avoid falling pregnant.

I'm so sorry for being this nasty today, this is not me. I'm not a selfish person but I need a way out of this mess.:freakingout:

Thanks everyone, all I need now is a :cuddle:

lissyloulou

25-03-2011, 17:16

hi HIIC,
so sorry to hear your news... i will say that fetal reduction scares the hell out of me. how on earth would you know which ones to get rid of? would you really be able to terminate ANY of your babies? not sure if this is right but i would think it's pretty similar to abortion. i don't know as i'm not in your shoes, but i would not want to be faced with that choice (fetal reduction) in a million years. that's why your FS has said no go. mine would say the same. she said i would only go ahead with iui with a max of 3 eggs, maybe 4. were you only on 50 of puregon?? i think that's the starting dose so it's amazing you produced so much on so little puregon and yet didn't respond to clomid...i bet frustrating doesn't come close to explaining your feeling right now... it sucks unbelievably and must be so tempting to just throw caution the to the wind. my FS said that octomom and other mothers with crazy amounts of multiples are those on the same drugs as we are but didn't listen to their FS and had sex anyway. i watched octomom on oprah the other day and that many kids is no life for her or the babies...just some food for thought
so sorry you are faced with this:hugs:

lissyloulou

25-03-2011, 17:59

was thinking about your predictament some more while cooking dinner HIIC...
i guess the whole fetal reduction thing takes on a whole new meaning if it's your last chance before ivf and you can't afford ivf for a while. i wonder if giving life to some is worth having to sacrifice others. and that may not even happen anyway...sorry just thinking out loud here, as i realise i can't know what you are feeling but i am trying to put myself in your shoes

i also wanted to say, you know how you said 'there goes my chance of becoming a mum in 2011' - is this because of the cost of ivf, or that you mean there will be less than 9 months to go therefore no baby until next year? for me, i think i'll be happy to be pregnant full stop. i kind of feel that i will feel like a mum when i am. so there is still hope for 2011!! just because you may not meet the baby/babies til 2012 doesn't mean you won't become a mum in 2011 in my book

my best friend says that i am already a mum in my heart as all the sacrifices we are already making with our bodies and diet changes/treatment etc...that we are already putting our childrens needs ahead of our own needs and that's what mums do. like god is already giving us a mothers heart. hope that makes sense, it really comforted me when she said it as i realised it was true

lesley76

25-03-2011, 20:33

Omg Hiic....You poor poor love :hugs:
I can't believe what has happened to you. It's so unfair!!

I also agree with lissy about getting pg this year. Trust me you will feel like a Mum as soon as you fall...It doesn't matter when you give birth. Try not to be so hard on yourself.

As far as what to do about this cycle. I think only you can make that decision...it is a big one. There is always a risk involved with multiples. Some get more "goodness" than others. I probably wouldn't risk it, as much as you want to. Thats just my opinion though.

You know this whole process is only going to make you stronger. You will get your bfp. One way or another. I know you will make the right decision.

Pretty, thank you for your kind words. You are all an inspiration to me :flowerz:

He is in control

26-03-2011, 08:40

Hi everyone...

Lissy...Thanks a lot for your words. I'm not taking any risk now, although I see no risk per say, after all, I haven't been naturally pregnant before so the odds are little that I will fall pregnant naturally this cycle. Anyway, whatever I said / posted in the past 24 hours was probably from a heart that hurts so much, I'm not going ahead, no intercourse, no condoms, no nothing, I just want to be alone for the next 14 days, at least by then ovulation would have occurred and AF will be knocking. No one wants to be an octomum you know. IMO, anything more than 2 at a time is problematic.

I agree with your friend's description of being a mother and of course in my sane self, I know eventhough I can't hold bub again this year, that doesn't mean the end of the world. As long as I fall preggers this year, I'm cool with delivery next year. Thank you once again.

My Lesley...I knew you were going to hurt for me, I just knew it because we started this journey together and now i've lost interest in the whole IUI thing. A cycle of IUI costs me about $2000 and even though I have only paid for 1, I'm not going ahead with another one. DH and I have decided to forget about IUI and move on, it's not just for us, the past 3 months have been too emotional for us and we are getting no where. We just can't stand another cancelled cycle. Enough is enough!

We've just bought tickets and made hotel reservations in New Zealand, so we will be out of Brisbane for Easter holidays. I thought we should add that to our savings but I thought we deserve some time out too.

We have decided to keep saving till June and then go for an IVF straight away. By then we would have tried for 2 years and we would have saved more than enough to do a full IVF cycle. We will be holding our faith up that the first IVF works as we simply would find it hard to do another one considering the costs.

Pretty...Thanks once again and I wish you well on this journey.

I might not have anything to contribute again on this thread as I've had no success stories or good experience with my TTC journey but I hope to jump in every now and then to say hello and see how everyone is going.

I love you all.
Thank you for your support and encouragement.

BYE BYE BYE:wave::wave::wave:

prettydino

26-03-2011, 09:31

HIIC,

You and your husband deserve a break. Noone should have to cope with all the grief you've had over the last couple of years. It will be good to have a change of scenery, take some time out to appreciate your life and each other. I mean, all we want is to be able to give life and love to another human being, why is that perfectly natural occurrence being made so difficult for us?

I wish you well and hope you will indeed continue to be part of this thread, even if you do not continue with the iui journey. Come in, write to us, use us as a journal for your thoughts, feelings and indeed a depository for all sorts of things.

We are all bonded.

Take care.:hugs:

lesley76

26-03-2011, 11:04

Hiic I am glad that you are having a well deserved holiday! I would LOVE to go to New Zealand. Lucky girl!!

I think you are making the right decision in regards to moving on to IVF, like your fs said then he can control the situation. And by the sounds of your reaction to puregon you will have heaps of little eggies for egg retrieval.

Please don't leave the thread :no: you have a lot to contribute! But I totally understand if you need a break for a while. We know you will be back.

When do you see your fs again?

Pretty how are you going?

Have a great weekend everyone :)

lissyloulou

27-03-2011, 11:31

HIIC please keep posting how you are going...i know it seems like a long shot, but you never know you could fall pregnant naturally before you start ivf! what a mircale that would be, with all the stories i've heard of people falling pregnant nothing would surprise me these days. at least after AF arrives you can get back to some intimacy with hubby. it's such a strange feeling being told when we can and can't do that with our husbands, even when going ahead with iui it feels strange.
i think a holiday sounds like a fantastic idea for you. i'll share something about myself. i have been ttc for probably only a couple of months longer than you. we reached breaking point a while ago and went to the USA for 1 month in nov/dec 2010. i got sick of people telling me'oh just relax and take a holiday and you'll probably fall preg', so that's the last thing i would say to you. however, what i will say is that hubby and i had been DTD on schedule only for a LONG time. it almost felt robotic. when we went away i tossed all the ovulation dates/when we should DTD out the window (i still knew of course as it's my body, but i stopped talking about it with hubby to give him a break). then we were stuck in a hotel across other side of world and didn't know what to do with each other! it was really make or break time - it was like we either re-learned how to be intimate without the sole purpose of making a baby or i didn't know how we were going to go on. our lives were consumed with baby making and we had forgotten how much we loved each other. anyway, we stuck it out and it was the best holiday ever. pretty soon we were fooling around because we wanted to again rather than looking at what date on the calendar it was.

we didn't make a baby that holiday, but we recieved the biggest gift of falling in love again. it has helped me so much to remember how lucky i am to have a loving hubby who wants to have a family with me. and know it's for real and when babies do come we will have a beautiful loving home to give them. it hasn't made babies come any quicker but it has certainly sweetened the journey. i know that God is looking after our babies until he is ready to give them to us to look after. what an honour.

i really hope this holiday away brings the things you need, healing and hope again. thinking of you in this difficult time:hugs:

He is in control

28-03-2011, 08:14

Hi Lesley, Pretty, Lissy:hugs:- You girls are more than bubhub buddies to me, I feel you have acted more like a sister than a buddy. Thanks girls, words can't express how good I feel that other TTC girls still want me, thanks for being here for me girls. You are the best.

Pretty...I'm always touched by your use of words, in the last post, you said

"Noone should have to cope with all the grief you've had over the last couple of years. It will be good to have a change of scenery, take some time out to appreciate your life and each other. I mean, all we want is to be able to give life and love to another human being, why is that perfectly natural occurrence being made so difficult for us?"

I found that so relieving and encouraging, thank you so so much and I can only pray and wish that your first IVF cycle brings you the much deserved joy.

Lesley...My sister, my friend, thank you for staying on this thread, your presence is so re-assuring and I'm glad you got a reward for starting up this thread where other girls have been so supportive and loving. Words can't express how I feel rightnow, thanks dear :hugs:

I'm not seeing FS anytime soon, he said to see him on day 7/8/9 of my next cycle if I want to give another IUI a try but no way. :no: I will probably see him next by June/July when I'm ready for IVF if nature hasn't done its part by then.

Lissy...There is this hillsong lyrics that I love so much and I find it encouraging, it says

"Lord over everything - you are near, Lord of the universe - you are near, Oh, I'm running to your arms, the riches of your love will always be enough, nothing compares to your embrace, light of the world forever the same"

"God is able, he will never fail, he is almighty God, greater than all we see, greater than all we know, he has done great things in the past and he will do great things again, he is nearer to us than our very skin"

Alright, sorry for boring you dear Lissy, so I'm confident again, my hope and faith is renewed and I know my time of breakthrough is so so near. When pain gets to the peak, the law of gravity sets it and at the end of the tunnel is a bright light. I'm encouraged and positive again. It will happen to us one day.

Your holiday story sounds so real and un-believable, I thought I was reading a novel at first, I had to copy the story and send it as an email to DH as I'm at work already. It's amazing how we allow ourselves to get so consumed with the TTC journey when in actual fact we should make the journey easier by bonding so well during this period. I will surely enjpy myself with hubby too and yes, we have discarded all OPKs, HPTs, BBTs etc, so we are not concentrating on TTC for the next 3 months, I hope to be able to do that. I'm so used to TTC that we do not find baby dancing interesting again, we only do it as an activity to achieve our aim, but we definitely need to re-focus and remind ourselves of those days when TTC was not an issue, we need that love once again and of course we will renew it like you did.

Thanks everyone and I'm sorry for whinging and being nasty in the past couple of days. I'm also sorry for this long post and of course I will be here for as long as everyone is here.

Nothing much to report right now, it looks like I've ovulated because I've had really sore boobs which is what I experience shortly after ovulating, but on a second note, it could be an aftermath of the Puregon, cos I had sore boobs with Puregon the last time too. Will see.

That reminds me...Lissy, I've been so selfish lately, where are you in your IUI cycle? Have you done the insemination yet? Now in the 2ww?

Pretty...What's going on, still sniffing Synarel? Have you started jabbing? What other medications are you on?

Chat soon girls!

prettydino

28-03-2011, 10:07

HIIC,

You do sound more upbeat and I am glad. Tomorrow is another day!:smiliedance:So please do, enjoy your life and your love. As I keep telling myself, there is more to life than all this that we are involved in.

Take advantage of the glorious BrisVegas weather we've got at the moment, go for a picnic or walk at the beach.

And yes, I am still sniffing the Synarel, so much that I am getting quite used to the awful lingering after-taste. I stop the pill and go for an oestradiol level today. Probably will start jabs next week. Not quite feeling myself, but not really feeling all that different either.

Cleared those dreaded case presentations that were hanging over my head. Now I can settle down. And indeed decided to be kind to myself and watched a chinese kungfu movie with hubby last night, while trying to finish a long-delayed cross-stitch project for my aunt. Mission accomplished! Today I take it to be framed.:cheerleader2:

Did I tell you all I ventured out to the Craft Fair that was at the Brisbane Convention Centre last weekend? It was heaps of fun and it took all my self-control not to carry off armfuls of loot. Not related to our TTC stuff of course, but a brilliant way to distract myself.

Take care all and I will post when I have more to update. :babydust1:to all.

lissyloulou

28-03-2011, 11:29

uurgh, don't you hate that! just wrote a nice big post and i'm at work so not much time to update and i somehow lost it! bah! will try to remember what i wrote as it was great!lol:rolleyes:

HIIC, so glad to hear you are feeling a little better - the darkest hour comes before the dawn. You are right in the thick of it and like you said the light is coming your way. I've heard it described as 'the birds start singing even before the sun has risen as they have faith that it will rise'. That sounds just like you - you are singing again!:highfive:

Pretty, I too love to keep busy with making things. It's good for the soul to create I feel. Have you started your 3 months off work? I am working 3 days per week atm which I am loving. So your cycle has started - when do you have egg retreival? I am so interested to follow your progress :fingerscrossed:

Lesley, I don't know you too well as I arrived after you fell preg. How long were you TTC for? It's so lovely to hear good news such as yours.:yes:

As for me...US was on Friday, 2 eggs (or follicles i guess) at 13mm & 14mm so told to keep doing injections until today. US this morn showed 1 egg left. Nice big one at 20mm I think. IUI scheduled for tomorrow at 12noon so will take arvo off work. FS said next time (not if i am hopefully preg!) we would up my dose to 75 puregon. she said not from day 1 of injections, but i would need an US at day 6, then from day 6 to IUI would up dose from 50 to 75 to help the eggs there to stick. was given trigger injection this morn.

that's it for me...if we don't fall preg this cycle I will probably have 1 month off. I really need to sort my anxiety medication or natural remedies (whatever ends up working best) out when not going through fertility treament. FS assured me that trying the zoloft last cycle would not have harmed our chances but it can make you pretty sick and it's a terrible guilt that hangs over me when i think i have potentially harmed my bub or caused a miscarriage. so thankful that my FS is a no nonsense doc. she said just sort yourself out and then stick with whats working. healthy mum = healthy bub!

have a lovely day ladies :goodvibes:

He is in control

28-03-2011, 12:45

Hi Lissy... So sorry you lost your long post, that happens to me every now and then and I hate it, especially when I've composed the message so well and so lengthy too. I then resolved to always copy my message on the mouse jsut before hitting the submit button, that has helped a couple of times.

Yay for this cycle honey, you might not need another one, and taking 1 month off is a great idea too, hopefully the naturally remedies will speed things up, I believe so much in them, they give a helping hand to orthodox medicines, so hang in there.

Pretty...You always have things to do, ah ah! I love that. Before you blink an eye, your 3 months off will be gone and resumption date will start knocking, I just hope you do not resume work with morning sickness, and if you do, that will be a way of letting your colleagues know that your status has changed oooo. Oh! I so can't wait.

Alright girls, we can talk about other things whilst in limbo land. Who watched the last episode of "biggest loser" I felt so bad that Damien was eliminated, he is my favourite and I believe he needs that progamme more than anyone else. Thoughts?

lesley76

28-03-2011, 16:41

Hello :smiliedance:

How is everyone?

HIIC I am so glad that you are feeling better. We all have our dark days. Its really nice to hear that you are feeling positive. You have every reason to feel positive too. Like the other girls have said, use this time to nurture yourself and you relationship with dh because it wont be long until you are right back in the middle of the ttc whirlwind.
I can't believe that Damien got voted out!!! I also can't believe that Joe didn't give him the 1kg advantage..what is that about??? I used to like Joe...I'm spewing that Lara didn't get voted out.She is soooo annoying!

Pretty, I am dying for your cycle to start!!! I'm not surprised that you are not feeling yourself...all the meds and poking and prodding really does catch up with you after a while. Hopefully not long until you are in the 2ww.
Wow, I love a craft fair. You would have got lots of ideas. Trust me you will need them for your pg days...for some reason it has brung out that side in me already.

Lissy, Yay for your nice follies!!! And yay for your u/s. Can't wait to hear all about it. The 2ww is rapidly approaching.
I'm sorry that you have been having anxitey. That must be hard for you. I think your fs has given you some really good advice in that you need to take care of your own needs first.
Df and I have been ttc since Dec 09. We first went to our fs in October of last year ( sorry hhic and pretty, you have heard all of this before) I had a laparoscopy in November and had a small amount of endo removed. I had my first round of iui with injects in Jan and we were lucky enough to get our bfp first time. Df has really good sperm too so that helped our situation a lot. Looking back now I think that I have a hostile cervix. I never really had much cervical mucus at all in any of my cycles. When I was on puregon I had Heaps. I think that and having the endo removed just worked for us.

Afm, no news really. I am like you girls and am just trying to find things to occupy myself with. We have totally reno'ed the kitchen, half of the bathroom and have just built a big deck out the back. We have spent the last WEEK staining it and it's still not done. I have to go through with a tiny paintbush and paint in between each gap :no: not fun!
I have also started doing all of the puzzels and quizzes in every magazine. I'm totally addicted to sudoko. I just bought a 500 piece puzzle. It's the famous photo of the beatles crossing abbey road. I am going to start that today...woohoo.
Morning sickness has pretty much gone. It's soo nice to actually enjoy my food again. Food is like a monster when you are in the midst of ms....it's scary...really! Also no more fatigue. Execept I am in bed by 9pm most night. Unusual for me as I am normally a night owl. I have also looked into doing hypnobirthing. I am going to do it. Have heard lots of good story's. Anyway that is all for now. Off to do my puzzle :hyper:

prettydino

29-03-2011, 08:46

Hi all!!

Liss, good luck for your iui today! I hope you score a mega-success!!:smiliedance:
Aha, I'm not a follower of the Biggest Loser but I did watch a couple of the initial episodes and think I have an idea who you're talking about. I think the contestants are incredibly brave! To agree to go through all that 'torture' (no other name for it) on national tv is no mean feat. I imagine they must have a medical team and ambo on standby all the time! I've always found it very difficult to watch reality shows, especially the cooking ones, because I feel that it is such a privilege to have someone else cook you a meal, and for the judges to be somewhat critical about the dishes, it just kills me. I like cooking, and for me, it's an act of love to cook for someone else.

This is what I've been up to:
1. practising my cello hard - I did join a community orchestra and they have a small charity concert coming up in 2 weeks, eeks! I have a lot of work to do to get even familiar with their concert repertoire!
2. having finished one smallish cat cross-stitch commemorating my mum's 20+ yo cat which died last year, I've turned to my other UFO (UnFinished Objects) -now working on a large oriental landscape - it's about half a metre in length!!:rolleyes:
3. working on my knitted doll - I've got the head, torso, legs and trousers made - now working on the tunic
4. reading my detective fiction novels :D
5. signed up for more patchwork classes so I can get on and finish my sister's baby quilt

So yes, I have started my mini-sabbatical break! I can't decide now whether to join the Brisbane Embroidery Guild, they have great classes teaching all sorts of hand embroidery. As you can tell, I love the yarn crafts..:hyper:

HIIC, you're right though, time flies so quickly it is scary. I'm half-worried that I will find it SOOOO difficult to return to work when the time comes!!:eek:

Good luck to all and have a nice day!:wave:

He is in control

29-03-2011, 14:09

Ah ah!!! Biggest loser, that happens to be one of my best shows on Channel Ten. As a matter of fact Lesley, I dislike that babe called Lara, I just hate her guts, ah ah, she's a specialist in criticizing others and that's an attribute I hate in people. Anyway, that's that, I'm not following again since my favourite contestant (Damien) is gone.

Lesley...Puzzles? I sure will give it a try next weekend, will see how I go, haven't done any in the past, but I'm happy to try anything just to keep busy.

Pretty...Creativity personified, I wish I had passion for things like that, I probably wouldn't have been this boring...lol

Lissy...:goodvibes: today and heaps of baby dust, keep us informed.

AFM...No gist, still in limbo land, my (.) (.) hurt so much, guess it's an aftermath of the FSH.
Thinking of signing up with a gym near my crib, just to get rid of some fat in preparation for the TTC journey ahead. Not sure I want to put my body through so much physical stress right now but I think I need to get rid of some kilos.

Alright girls, I've got fertile wishes for you all.:celebrate::babydust1:

lissyloulou

29-03-2011, 18:50

Hi gals,
Wow, last time my iui I didn't feel a thing...this time it was unbelievably painful!! I'm hoping it means that FS got it in the right place! She had to give me some iboprofens and for me to stay lying down for 30 mins. Even when I left I was still in pain. FS said it was uterus cramping or something, whoa it felt like I needle being put in the most sensitive place up there and then instantly like the worst period pain ever, and I get it pretty bad. Anyway, compared to last one it was like night and day. Of course it's worth it, it was just a shock. I said to FS that I often get pain while DTD and I wonder if this is an indication that I should do another laparoscopy earlier. AF has been getting really painful again too for past few months. We were going to do another lap if we aren't preg within 3 - 4 cycles, perhaps it's worth doing before anymore iui's. Anyway we will jut have to wait and see what happens at end of 2ww. As I was going to have a month off to sort anxiety it could be perfect time to do lap too. I know the iui and ivf have a better chance of working after that anyway. Of course if we do fall preg this cycle then it's all null and void and we will be celebrating! Here's hoping:fingerscrossed:

now to keep self busy for 2ww:rolleyes:
I don't watch biggest loser, have in the past just didn't jump on board this year. I do however love American idol! Aside from that I'm a tragic soap watcher:p bold & the beautiful is my dirty little equivalent of a gossip magazine... Love farmer wants a wife too - I am so tragic! Then the old Seinfeld reruns never go astray. My fav now soap is modern family, just love the dry humour...anyhow pizza for dinner tonight, just cannot be bothered cooking and DH is at footy training
Catchy soon:goodvibes:

He is in control

30-03-2011, 07:39

Hey Lissy...:cheerleader1:You are now in the dreaded 2ww, I wish you well honey, I pray this one works so you dont have to worry about lap again. FS also mentioned to me that it's worth giving lap a shot as it increases the chances of a successful IVF etc but I guess if it is done and nothing is found, then the chances are equal to what it was before the lap, let me know if I'm wrong.

Sorry for the pains, I pray it means something positive this time. Have fun ok.

He is in control

30-03-2011, 07:43

Schnauzer...It's been a while. How are you and what's going on right now, keep us posted honey, we are with you through this rollercoaster :yes::):hugs:

Aurora...I'm thinking you must have gone on your 2nd honeymoon, please make the most of it and :fingerscrossed: that a miracle will happen :yes:

Coops77

30-03-2011, 16:33

Hey ladies! I've been reading over some of your stories and thought it was time I shared mine, I guess I have no one to talk to other than my beloved finance, just hoping I can can some insight as I'm very lost and confused atm.

My fiancé and I have been trying for a little one for about 18 mths now and I knew from a lap I had in 2010 that I may need to go down the fertility path as my gyno at the time said I had unexplained infertility. I'm very healthy 29 yr old, hardly drink, i don't smoke and have a very healthy diet. My fiancé is more healthy than me, 35 and everything on his end is super!

We have been going to CFC in Melbourne since nov 2010 and after all the test my FS has confirmed I have unexplained infertility, great! Anyway, I'm doing the acupuncture and herbs also. I had my 1st iui with 50mg clomid in feb had 2 follies and a good lining, it failed, I didn't even get through the 2ww, I had my 2nd iui in march with clomid, had only 1 follie and good lining and again failed on day 12dpo.

I thought I'd be ok but it's kinda hit me big time, what if.....??? What if this doesn't work, do I let go of my fiancé so he gets to share his dream of becoming a daddy with someone who can? How long do we do this for before enough is enough? I have so many thoughts going though my head, it's really consuming me :(_ I guess I just need to vent, it will help me to stop thinking of the what if's.

My fiancé and I decided we are going to do ivf in may, have April off to get my head sorted. I spoke to the FS and he even agreed, he had high hopes for us so he was quite surprised to get a call from me this morning.

Well anyway, sorry for the long post and the many spelling mistakes, thanks to iPhone! I want to wish everyone so much babydust on your journeys and maybe listen to mine, take care all x

lesley76

30-03-2011, 22:06

Hi Girls!

Guess waht I'm watching????? The biggest loser!!! I'm a loser for still watching :yes:
I can't help it!!

Lissy I'm glad that your iui is done. Sorry it wasn't very pleasant. If I were you I would definitely consider a lap if you are having pain while dtd....that doesn't sound right. Did they find anything last time?
Anyway hopefully this is the one and you won't have to worry about any of these things:yes:

Hiic, maybe you should talk to your fs about having a lap? It can't hurt.

Pretty, How is the crafting going? I would love to be able to cross stich. Can you upload some pics when you have finished? I would love to see them.

Hi coops :wave:
You poor love, you sound down. We all have our down days around here so you have come to the right place if you need to talk.
I also had unexplained infertility so I know how frustrating it is. It really does feel like you are never going to get your wish. I know sometimes you just feel like giving up but you never know....the next try might be the one!! You are really close to your bfp. Especially if your fs has high hopes for you. Thats a great sign. Maybe you could talk to your fs about doing injections to get those follies pumping.
It's also normal to feel self concious about not being able to give your partner a baby naturally. I sometimes felt like that. But I'm sure your df doesn't want you to leave him because you are going through a tough time. You are being very hard on yourself :hugs:. It sounds like you guys have a great plan in place.
Hang in there love. It will get better. One step at a time. I never thought it was going to happen to me...honestly...now im in my second trimester.....it all happened VERY fast once the ball was rolling. The time WILL come :yes:.

Afm, hhhhmmm nothing much today. We went to see carl barron last night. My stomach is still so sore from laughing...very funny man. We had such a good night. I have another ob appointment in a couple of weeks...yay get to see bub again. Thats about it :)

prettydino

01-04-2011, 11:44

Hi Coops and welcome!

As you can see, this thread has become more than just a topic thread about iuis. We've become a real sisterhood of women, all working towards a common goal, and hopefully having a laugh at the same time!

I think you shouldn't feel that you need to make that sort of self-sacrifice about letting your DF go and "find someone else who can produce children". After all, you are not just a brood sow, are you? He must love you for more reasons than just your potential to be a mother. Perhaps it would be worth discussing your fears and feelings with him? Your relationship will be strong enough to withstand this gale, have faith. You're feeling shakey, we'll all help you through this. Which woman doesn't doubt herself when she seems unable to even do this basic biological thing? I know I had terrible feelings of guilt when I first started, but decided to be philosophical. At least there are now things we can do to help ourselves, not like women in the olden days.

Lesley (Denise), cross-stitch isn't hard at all! It's just sewing a bunch of little crosses to make up a picture. You could try something very simple like a bookmark or perhaps even a small hanging picture for your little one to come. The only rule is that all the crosses should cross in the same direction (ie. the top stitch should cross one way and the bottom stitch the other - x), so that it looks even. Of course, there are little tricks to making the whole process a little easier, and other than needing a good chair and table and a good light, and a whole lot of patience (which I know all you girls have in oodles), it's pretty easy.:p Give it a go! I'll try and post some pics up soon.

I went to a quilting class yesterday and finally picked up what I needed to know to get on with my sister's baby quilt. Now I have to do the border!!;)

I jabbed myself with Gonal F for the first time today. No problems. The hardest bit was probably working out how to open the blinking sharps container :laughing:!

So we shall see if I experience any funny effects from it, seeing that I started my jabs on April Fools' Day:rolleyes:. First scan late next week, if all goes well, it looks like egg retrieval might be around 14th April.

Stay well, ladies and have a nice weekend!:hyper:

He is in control

02-04-2011, 10:04

Coops...Welcome dear :hugs:I think we all identify with your story and how bad you may feel right now. My mates on board have given you all the words of wisdom and anything I say will be a repetition so I'll leave you for now.

Meanwhile, remember "When your circumstance says "give up", hope whispers "try it one more time" http://mail.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/07.gif. I personally have been through some tough times too but I know deep inside me that all will be well, our desires will be met if we remain persistent.

Lesleybabe...How now? Good to know you are fine and enjoying your 2nd trimester. I will surely think about the lap thing, just that the cost is quite high for me, plus if nothing is found, I would have thrown the money "away" lol.

Pretty...Always occupied! That's good and yay for the gonal F, here's to a vibrant development of follicles and I pray you EPU goes smoothly. All will be well.

Lissy...How are you travelling dear? 2ww isn't too bad is it? You are almost halfway through it, wish you luck this time.

The only thing I want before my time is gone is to hear the words "i love you mum".

Chat soon girls!!!

lesley76

02-04-2011, 13:57

Oh HIIC...you just made me cry. You will get your wish....I know it in my heart.
Fertility treatment is so expensive...as we all know.I totally understand you not wanting to waste money. I would be the same.

Pretty you have inspired me to do a cross stich. I had a look at some videos online and I think I can do a small one. I'm excited. Thank you .

Lissy how are you? When do you have your next bt?

Afm.....back to cleaning the house. 1 very messy male and 2 fluffy white cats keep me very busy in that respect. I also picked up some casual work for next week. I will be doing stocktake for retail company. 2 full days work, I can't wait. Being at home all the time is not all it's cracked up to be.

Have a great weekend girlies :smiliedance:

HopefulK

02-04-2011, 16:53

Hello He Is In Control,

I have just joined and read your thread about your apprehension about your ART journey. After 2 years TTC naturally and going through a range of tests, DH and I were told there was "no explanation" for our fertility problems too. We were given the option of either AI or going straight to IVF. We chose IVF because the success rates were a bit higher and we figured if we were going to inject lots of hormones, we may as well go for broke (literally - IVF is pricey!)

We did lots of research and I did lots of physical and mental preparation beforehand, expecting the worst. As it turned out, the injections all went smoothly (thanks to DH's steady hands), and I had only a few minor side effects, totally contrary to what I'd read and heard - and prepared myself for. We were pretty relaxed about the whole thing - just happy to have started doing "something" about it - so we didn't fully follow all protocols, e.g: stuffed up the date of first "full flow" thus beginning hormones a day late, didn't inject at the same time each day, I kept working crazy hours in my highly stressful job, forgetting to take pre conception vitamins regularly and pretty much ate (and drank) what I pleased.

Then, more things happened that made us think it was just a "test" cycle (as many first cycles of IVF often are). Only 9 good sized follicles detected, but then on egg collection they only got 4. I was very disappointed, but again, had prepared myself for this to be "just a test cycle" so wasn't prepared for good results. But we got lucky: all four eggs fertilised, with two of them making it to blastocyst.

One was transferred, and thus began the dreaded 2WW. I tried to distract myself again with work, doing crazy hours and even flying interstate for a conference. In that time I was exposed to chicken pox, had a house full of overseas guests and in laws staying with us, came down with a terrible cold (and took cold medication), and even had a few wines with dinner, fully expecting a BFN at the end of it all.

Well, one day before the blood test I got impatient and took a HPT, and what do you know it was positive! Bloods confirmed it the next day, and now I find myself 8 weeks pregnant after having a good ultrasound, and due on my husband's birthday in November.

I want to let you know that there is hope - as you say, you might just need a little boost to help you conceive. I wish you all the best, hoping, praying and crossing fingers and toes for you. I understand how painful the journey can be even before you start with ART, so by this point you're probablly feeling pretty vulnerable (and have most likely seen multiple friends etc fall pregnant naturally and have children, as we did). Don't lose hope, this is just the beginning.

He is in control

02-04-2011, 20:49

Lesley...Uhm! I never want to see you cry. No! I'm sorry dear and I hope you enjoy your stitch practice. Hopefully you will make something nice for bub. You have a beautiful heart and I'm loving it.

Hopefulk...Let me say a big thanks to you for that useful post, that was so encouraging and heart warming, aww, I read the post together with DH and it was fun alll the way down. Words can't describe how good I felt after reading.
It's so nice of you to share your story here evnthough you are already a graduate. It is my prayer that you have a happy and healthy 7 more months, I also pray and wish you a beautiful and healthy bub to show for it. Your much deserved bundle of joy will soon arrive...yay:hyper:
I see you've had your tough days too and I know it wasn't fun but now, it's all in the past. Yes I agree with the feeling that first IVF can be a bit scary with doubts that it might just be a trial cycle but babe I just can't afford to have an experimental / trial cycle so I will be praying my heart out that the first cycle works for us. The cost to DH and I is so much and it will take a miracle for us to be able to afford a 2nd cycle as we are foreigners, hence no medical rebate of any sort.

In the past 4 hours I've had to deal with news that a very close friend of mine just put to bed a bouncing baby boy, she wasn't even raedy to conceive so it was a 'mistake', here we go, I became so selfish when I heard the news,I've not even called her. I was not in a good head space when I heard and I just thought I'ld sign in to bubhub and read some more encouraging posts before I give her a call and here I am reading your re-assuring post. Thanks dear, I'm so so grateful, may the Lord reward you with blessings as you have made me smile tonight.

If you dont mind me asking, you did a range of tests right? Did you do a lap? I've done all tests with the exclusion of a lap and I just have mixed feelings about doing it but I thought I'd check with as many people as I can before making the decision, it all boils down to cost for me anyway, I really wouldn't mind doing any kind of investigation before the IVF, it's better to be safe than to be sorry you know.

WishingOnAStar...Welcome dear:hugs:I have all my hopes up for you that this IUI brings you a BFP as it did for Lesley. If you read backwards, you will find that hers was successful on the first attempt and she was also on Puregon and Pregnly like you, from memory, I think she had 2 follies too, so here's wishing these much similarities mean an exactly similar outcome for you :smiliedance:.
I hope you've got things doing to keep the 2ww busy, I know it's usually the longest 2 weeks in every TTC lady. I hope yours will fly by quickly. You are not alone, Lissy, one of the babes on this thread in also in her 2ww after IUI so heaps of :babydust1: to you both.

Pretty...Having fun with your creative hand work?I wish

Thanks for the love girls, the journey is certainly easier with you all on board.

Fertile wishes,
HIIC:):wave:

lissyloulou

02-04-2011, 22:33

hi gals, just a quick post as i am soooo tired can hardly keep eyes open. so lovely to see some new faces here, thanks so much for sharing. yes, i'm in the 2ww too. i had my iui on tuesday, so i guess that puts me at 3dpo.

anyway, quick question - i've noticed everyone talking about blood tests, and i think lesley asked when my next BT would be. I don't even have BTs!! is that strange to be doing iui without any BTs??! my FS isn't even checking hormone levels like you wishingonastar(was going to shorten your name but didn't want to write WOOS:D)... she did check them ages ago to check i was ovulating etc and i think it was fine. i wonder why she doesn't do it? also, i was worried after the last iui and AF came a few days early and i was actually feeling pretty UTD (typical for me:rolleyes:) but i was worried i hadn't actually got AF but had an early miscarriage due to some medication. anyway i just called FS on the day i got AF and straight away she put me back on puregon 50 without seeing me or BT. does that seem odd to anyone?

will check back in tomorrow...goodnight all:hugs:

HopefulK

03-04-2011, 08:35

Hi HIIC,

I'm really glad my story helped you a little. I know how bittersweet it can be when you hear someone is pregnant after TTC for a while. On one hand you're happy for them but it can also remind you of your own situation ... so I did debate with myself whether it would be a good thing or not!

I guess my message was really to say that I had fully prepared myself (as much as you can) for not being able to. I could honestly not ever imagine myself being pregnant, let alone the possibility of having an actual baby! Even now, it's very hard to accept that I am - sometimes I forget until the symptoms remind me. I am quite anxious too - every day I worry that I will lose the baby. I know it's silly and I should just try to relax, but after such a long journey (and there are others who've faced much longer) I am having problems getting my head around the whole thing.

That said I feel extremely lucky and blessed that I'm "one of the lucky few" that actually have success on the first go of IVF. I only say this because that's what we were told by our clinic (Monash IVF, which has extremely good success rates). This is due to them not fully knowing how your body will react to the first round of treatment and it can be a bit of an experiment to understand how you react to it all. They told us that the higest success rates are for those undergoing round 3 - I guess by then they should have the dosages and timing down to a fine art so there's a better chance.

That said, you might have a good run and get multiple embies that you can freeze, which means you don't need to do full cycles each time! That's a great outcome and costs significantly less (you're just paying for ET rather than full IVF each time, which might only be a few hundred bucks per go - ha! "only"!). We have another one on ice and it was reassuring to know that during the 2WW.

In answer to your question, yes I did the full laparoscopy, hysterescopy, plus D&C for good measure. I was told by my FS (Beverley Vollenhoven) that the lap could only pick up things like blocked tubes, which can't be diagnosed any other way. If you have good hormone levels and everything else looks normal, there could still be a blockage which still buggers your chances. At a lap, they can also clear any blockages while they're there - so I'd highly recommend you give that a try before going ahead with any treatment. You might be wasting precious money and emotional energy on hormones when there's another problem that can be easily fixed.

That's a bummer about not getting the rebates - it's a very expensive journey even when you do get Medicare and private health cover reductions in fees. We live a comfortable life but are by no means loaded, so financial considerations were a big part of the decision making. In the end I just put a little prayer out into the universe (even though I'm not religious!) and asked that the money somehow make its way into our wallets when we needed it. Then I called our bank and increased our credit limit!

Miraculously, two good things then happened. Our overseas guests were given financial compensation for living away from home, and insisted that we take the money while they lived with us - this equalled exactly the amount we were going to be out of pocket for the first IVF round! As if this wasn't amazing enough, my mum then gave me a cheque for $3,000 from my late Nan's estate. These things NEVER happen to me, so you can't imagine my shock (and relief).

I think you create your own destiny and all that, but at the same time I also think there's a lot to be said about things like LUCK and the planets all aligning at the same time (whatever that means for you - be it God, or whoever that higher power may be). For us, this was clearly the case - we'd had such a bad run before so it was amazing that it all worked out.

My advice would be to make sure you're 100% happy with your FS, make sure you're getting the best care, advice and treatment (it's YOUR body after all!), and spend whatever you can to give yourselves the best chance. Then, relax (easier said than done!), and enjoy your full and wonderful life - keep living it to the fullest and that way you'll be well equipped to deal with whatever comes your way. You sound like you're already doing all of this so I'm sure you'll be fine no matter what.

PS: don't force yourself to socialise with ungrateful people who've fallen pregnant easily and don't appreciate the gift they've been given. You have mine and everyone else's permission here to give people like that a WIDE berth if you find it upsetting. Protect yourself. :-)

lesley76

03-04-2011, 11:24

Hello:wave:

Some new faces...how lovely.

HIIC you don't need to say sorry:no: I just thought that your words were so beautiful that they made me very emotional. It was a nice cry :yes:. I also wouldn't call your friend until you feel ready. We all know how hard it is when our friends fall pg...give yourself some time.
Maybe you should consider doing a lap. I think without my insurance we would have been out of pocket about $850. Something to consider.

WOAS hi and welcome. Yes hiic is right. I had 2 follies at about 19mm, was on 25 of puregon and did 3 rounds of pregnyl post iui. Good luck with this cycle. Bring on the 11th!!

Lissy...hmmm I'm not sure what advice to give you in regards to your bt's. Did they at least do one for pg at the end of your last cycle? It does seem a bit strange to me to be honest. You should ask about it. I was having bt all the way up until 8 weeks pg. It really is the only accurate way to see what is going on in your body. Try not to let it bother you though. Maybe just bring it up next time :)

Pretty how are you??

Have a good Sunday girls :goodvibes:

lissyloulou

03-04-2011, 14:19

oh my gosh, it abbreviates to WOAS, not WOOS!! sorry for that....so i can call you by a shortened name without it sounding nasty:D thanks lesley for typing that!lol

can i also ask what pregnyl does? i didn't have that after my iui...
just googled it and think it may be the trigger injection. so yes i did have that. but why would you have 3 trigger injections:confused: sorry if i am being daft..

He is in control

03-04-2011, 16:10

Lissy...I'm thinking that is perculiar with cfc, when I did my first iui, I was not given Pregyl as well, I asked and my FS said that was what I got as a trigger. I went on to tell him I have a cousin (Lesley actually) who just did iui and was given pregnyl to jab for 3 spaced days within the 2ww (i got this info because Lesley did her insemination in January before me), he then said it depends on what dosage she was given to trigger blaa blaa blaa, I so wanted him to give me but he didn't. Unfortunately for me and him, I got my period 6days after the insemination....what??? If you read back on this thread, you will know how distressing it was for me.

My FS actually agreed that he musst have missed the ovulation, he explained that I must have ovulated naturally before he gave me the trigger. He also said with multiple follies, it's possible the largest of them had popped and what he was seeing before the trigger was just the remaining follies being driven to grow by the FSH...dumb explanation I thought. But he clearly said that was the only explanation for getting AF 6 days post iui, with all the AF sysmptoms then, I thought I was UTD...silly hey!

Per the bloos tests, my first cycle went without blood tests and of course it ddnt work, the second one however, I had to tell FS what I wanted and he agreed with me. I told him I wanted a luteal phase support medication as well as regular monitoring of my hormones which he did, he was cheking my bloods until he decided to cancel the cycle. I will suggest if this one fails which I pray works fine, you should tell your FS what you want.

Lesleydear...I'm so happy I started this journey with you. I never thought a lap will be that 'cheap' I was thinking of another 4k out of pocket. That's certain now that I will give it a shot to maximise my chances.

Hopefulk...That was great news about how you got money rolling in for your cycle. I'm certainly believing God to send some good vibes my way too, money, help, support (you girls), BFP, 9 months healthy pregnancy and of course a healthy bub to hold and to love.

I know the fear of not losing the pregnancy, I guess everyone who has been TTC has that hidden fear. The innocence of pregnancy vanishes when you TTC for so long so I agree that one would normally nuture some fear, we only need to be as positive as we can through the period.

That's it for now girls, now on to cleaning of the house.

Chat soon everyone.

Fertile Wishes,
HIIC:):wave:

lesley76

03-04-2011, 20:16

Lissy, pregnyl is the hcg hormone. It can be used as a trigger and it can also be used after your iui to support your pregnancy. I think it just depends on the dose. I had ovidrel for my trigger. Hope this helps :)

lissyloulou

06-04-2011, 09:47

hi ladies,
sorry i have been MIA...i have been having heaps of issues with my anxiety/panic stuff and been all comsumed with it. in a way it hasn't been bad as it's kept me occupied while in the 2ww!!

have been medication free since Monday now (so 3rd day today) - i slept like a baby last night and not waking with sore/tired eyes due to lack of sleep is a God send!! the meds were not agreeing with me and making me very sick/insomnia/etc. it has been about 1 month of trialling them after a long period without. anyway have pushed myself to wake up and walk each morning (not fast, just nice relaxing 30 mins fresh air) and it's doing wonders. my psychiatrist said - you don't meet many sad dogs! (due to morning walkies). i agree but could have taken offence being compared to a dog! lol

so went to naturopath and am trying some herbal supplements and think i will book back in with a therapist to try some coping techniques. i gave up when i was depressed as it didn't help (and i really believe there was a chamical imbalance at that time). these days i am not depressed at all, just terrible anxiety/panic. so i'm hopeful that walking/diet/therapy/supplements may do the trick. i have the meds/psychiatrist to go back to if i get desperate but i'm gonna try my best for at least a couple weeks. i would so love to do this naturally/be med free. but i am realistic and if i need meds to live a healthy life then so be it. the main thing at this stage for me is healthy mum = healthy bub.

HIIC - so are you post AF now? are you back to just naturally DTD?? when do you go away for that rejuevenating holiday? just feel like giving you one of these:hugs:

Lesley - thanks for all the explanations. it's amazing how things can differ depending on which FS you go to. i will ask if there is a next time for me (fingers crossed there won't be!). I have heard an FS name mentioned on bubhub for being amazing - Wazza? i wonder if he's in brisbane. you too:):hugs:

WOAS - lol i can call you that now...so when would AF be due for you? I'm due Tuesday...not long before i can start testing now! thank God my Mum is down this weekend to keep me occupied. i feel like giving you one of these for good luck!:highfive:

Pretty - what's doing?? keeping busy with the crossstitching?!:D:cool: still excited to hear when your egg retrieval will be - i know you've told me already but i have a shocking memory:p

HopefulK - wow you are just so blessed to have your ivf work first go. it certainly gives us all hope...how are you feeling first trimester? :goodvibes:

see you later ladies, have a great day:wave:

He is in control

06-04-2011, 20:21

Lissy...Thanks for the update on how you are travelling. I hope all the stuffs you are trying will work together and give you the much expected result. I really can't wait to hear that you are fine spirit soul and body. He he, next week will bring good vibes your way, it will be great to hear you announce the BFP.

WOAS...All the best dear, I really do not know anything about about pregnyl as I've never been put on it. I recall that Lesley couldn't POAS as she was advised pregnyl in her system would surely give her a BFP as it is hcg, however, I reckon a blood test will be the best way to confirm pregnancy. On the other hand, it might be the actual BFP and that will be awesome news, you deserve it girl. You just hang in there for a couple more days before testing again.

AFM...Octomum!!! No way!!! AF is by no way around the corner as you will all know that I have long cycles 32 days on the average. With medications (clomid, puregon) it varies so I really can't pinpoint exactly when to expect AF, but I think I have not ovulated as yet because I've not started seeing my post ovulation signs. No BD until AF shows up, can't risk being an octomum:no:

Also writing up a proposal for my PhD research, it's time consuming and that has been a great distraction for me over the past one week.

Catch y'all.

prettydino

07-04-2011, 09:05

:laughing:Hi all,

Not much going on my front. Still sniffing Synarel and jabbing with Gonal F daily. First scan tomorrow to see what the ovaries have been up to. I haven't felt a whole lot different from usual, so a bit anxious that the meds aren't working, but then I felt like that with the clomid too and still produced 2 good follicles each time, so we shall see, hey? DH thinks it's because I've taken work stress out of the equation, so no added grief to make any symptoms worse. Well, perhaps that's it.

I've finished the baby quilt for my sister and am trying to figure out a way to get it to Hong Kong safely. Also finished a small x-stitch project for my old nanny, commemorating her old cat. Both had been half-finished languishing in my sewing room for months! Now I've started on a new quilt with applique cats on it but have to do lots of blanket stitch by hand!!! Argh, this is gonna take a while! All these sewing marathons are giving me a crick in the neck and a kazillion knots in my shoulder and back muscles!:rolleyes:

Lissylou, I was the same, didn't have any blood tests for my 2 iuis. But perhaps that is individual to the FS. He seemed to be happy with scans alone.

HopefulK, I am so glad to hear your story about ivf. I'm walking that road myself, so am anxious to stay positive. It's good to hear that we don't really have to "restrict" our lifestyles too much.

Lesley, how's the x-stitch going? Have you dared to start?!:laughing: I'd get one of those prepacked kits that already has fabric, thread and needle all included. Probably the easiest to start with that. A hoop and needle threader also make your life easier.

HIIC, good luck with your PhD! I'm glad you've got a great productive distractor in place! :smiliedance:Hooray for AF to be just around the corner, then you can make a fresh start and have recreational baby-dancing with your man :D.

Chat soon.

:babydust1: to all.

He is in control

08-04-2011, 07:35

Hey hey....Pretty, that's fine that you've had no reactions to the medications and of course I'm a living proof that the fact that there are no reactions doesn't mean the meds aint working. With my last puregon dosage, I felt nothing throughout and I thought my ovaries were not responding again just like they did with clomid, when I went for the scan, my mind was prepared to hear no follicles but alas! I had 8 mature follicles (smallest being 16mm) You can imagine that!!!

You are such a funny babe Pretty..."recreational baby-dancing" Indeed I can't wait to start that and of course I can't wait to start my IVF journey too, I just can't wait but like you already know, I have to wait:freakingout:

That's that my dear, I will check in later to see how you go with the scan and possibly you will have your EPU date by then. I'm keeping my fingers, my toes and my heart crossed just for you!!!

To our 2ww girls...not long again and you will have some pretty great news to share :fingerscrossed:.

Fertile Wishes,
HIIC:)

prettydino

08-04-2011, 13:06

Hi all,

I am very sad today. Went for my first scan. My ovaries have not responded well to Gonal F and all I had was 2 follicles of 17mm each, both on the left side.

So the decision was made to convert this IVF cycle into another IUI, to be done on Monday. A bit more fiddly because my own endogenous hormones had been suppressed by Synarel, so after the IUI I'm gonna need to give myself progesterone (Crinone) pessaries.

I know it's silly because the month won't be altogether wasted and I will probably feel much better tomorrow. But right now, I am full of sorrow.

My FS has given me a blood form for anti-Mullerian hormone, to check my ovarian reserve. He was VERY surprised to see the poor ovarian response, considering that they did reasonably well with a very low dose of Clomid.

Ah well. The struggle continues.

lissyloulou

09-04-2011, 09:37

So sorry to hear your news pretty:hugs:

Well no good news here either, AF pains started Thursday and started bleeding today (I always start with spotting & bad pains):(:no:
I was hopeful in past 2 days that the pains might be implantation or early preg stuff (I always think this:rolleyes:)...because 14dpo I calculated to be tuesday. However I just realised that we did the iui on day 9 last month and this month was day 11. So maybe I ovulated earlier than the iui...I feel kinda ****ed off that I haven't been monitored more. I know it's prob not FS fault that I'm not preg, just want to blame someone:( I think she's probably missing when I ovulate as it happens so early. Oh well, I will make another appointment on Monday, express my concerns and also suggest doing the laparoscopy this month instead of waiting.

Had a big cry with DH, it's so hard to explain although I know you all understand. I think after the initial shock it's more a sadness and pain knowing we have to go through another cycle, probably the lap before we get to that. It's the injections, the appointments, it's just bloody everything. It's exhausting and draining but i know so worth it. I guess I just needed to release all the emotion and after last month being on medication and not really feeling the sadness, well today my sadness matched my husbands which i am glad of. Which sounds strange, but if you've ever been in the foggy stage of antidepressants you will understand that sometimes you don't feel the things you should.

Back to the drawing board :confused:

prettydino

09-04-2011, 10:18

Hi Lissy,

I am sorry to hear your news.

You are right. It is always the initial shock that is so difficult to bear. I bounce into the doctor's rooms, full of hope and optimism. Then he whips out that d*mn ultrasound probe and I inevitably always end up feeling rather deflated like a balloon afterwards.

It was worse this time because I was (and I think he was too) fully expecting to see nice loaded up ovaries, but instead, nothing...or very little anyway. I guess if we'd scheduled an iui I would have been happy to see the 2 nice follicles of reasonable size. But as the nurse put it, when you have mentally prepared yourself to go through the ivf process, then to realise you can't do it that cycle, it is very disappointing. It's like studying for an exam that gets cancelled at the last minute, except a lot worse!

Ah well, looks like for you and me, it's back to the drawing board for now.:hugs:

lesley76

09-04-2011, 11:40

Good Morning Girls :wave:

Pretty, I'm so sorry to hear about your u/s results. I can't believe it. Is there any reason as to why you may not have produced enough follies? What dosage of Gonal F are you on? You must be so disappointed. At least it's not a total waste like you said and that you get to do an iui. Not the same as ivf, but you never know...this could be the cycle. I only had 2 follies when I got my bfp..they were on the left too...not that it means anything but it could be good luck :cheerleader1: We can hope anyway. I also had the anti mullarian test back in December. I had quite a poor result. My reserves were at 9%. For my age my fs said she likes the result to be between 15% and 30%. Anyway, you only need 1 egg at the end of the day so it didn't really matter. I just probably will have to have the next bub relatively quickly :eek:.
I have seen some cross stich kits that I like so I am going to take your advice and attempt one of those first. Just have to finsh my Beatles puzzle first.

HIIC, Did you watch the biggest loser this week? I cried so much in the make overs..I was so happy for them.:yelclap: When are you heading to NZ? It must be soon. How lovely. We are thinking of heading to America or Canada for our "babymoon". It sounds silly but it will probably be our last chance for a holiday for some time.

Lissy, I'm sorry that af has shown. You must be feeling really frustrated. I know I would be. It's hard work for us to go through these fertility treatments. And unless you have been through it I don't think that you can quite understand. I felt like a pin cushion while going through my iui. Everyone wants a piece of you, and some of the nurses are not the nicest. I think men find it all very hard to comprehend, they are also not the best at showing their emotions.
Even now I get annoyed at df because I fell like he is not interested in me or the baby, but of course he is. He just has a different way of expressing himself. I have to be kind to him as we are in this together.
You guys should treat yourself to a nice dinner or something, just to take a break for a while. You need to do something nice for yourself. you deserve it!

I hope you all have a beautiful weekend :yes:

He is in control

10-04-2011, 15:31

Hi girls,

Pretty... so sorry it turned out this way for you but I'm glad it's not a total waste of time and I'm hoping the luteal support will make a huge difference in the outcome. Words won't do trick, heaps of :hugs::hugs::hugs:to you honey. I hope this is the month for you, take heart and keep us posted, when do you trigger and when is the actual insemination? What dosage of progesterone will you be on? Just want to know for my own knowledge.

Lissy...Sorry hun! :hugs::hugs::hugs:We always want to blame someone for every failed cycle so I totally understand you. Take heart hun, all will be well. Draw up another plan of action but in my opinion, something must be done differently in your next cycle, you should request for luteal support eg pregnyl, progesterone pessaries etc just to see if that makes a difference.

Lesley...Yeah, the contestants so deserve the make over, see all the torture they have been through since the beginning. That was a very touching show on Thursday and of course I'm watching again tonight. Will be off to NZ next week Thursday, just a week holiday and that's it, we will be relaxing and catching all the fun. Yeah, I'm loving your plan to travel to the US, DH and I will surely visit US during my pregnancy, that's certain, may be mid way through my pregnancy, we just can't wait, but we will wait!

WOAS...Not long again before you get to the end of your 2ww, wishing all the luck I can gather, keep us posted.

No updates on my side, boring as usual, AF still has a fair bit of a long way to come and I just hate to see her. Anyway, eagerly waiting to see her soon so I can finally take my mind off the 'octomum' thing.

Chat soon girls and :babydust1: to everyone.

prettydino

11-04-2011, 16:12

Hi everyone,

I had my iui done today and I guess this moment marks the start of my 2ww. Tomorrow I've got to start using the Crinone pessaries. FYI HIIC, the pessaries have 90mg of progesterone each, the box says "Crinone 8%". Nothing remarkable about the iui, given that it's my 3rd one. I know the drill so well that I even brought a book to read during the procedure and while lying down for 15 minutes afterwards! The doc had a laugh about it and says," That's not a good thing, to be too used to all this!" :rolleyes: I'm a bit crampy afterwards today, which I've never had before, but not so bad that I can't do my usual things. I keep thinking, come on, little uterus, squeeze in the right direction and get those little swimmers up to the right place for their hot date!:fingerscrossed:

I've also been given instructions on what to do if this iui doesn't work out. Apparently there is such a thing called a "short IVF protocol or antagonist cycle". I've been given a tentative plan sheet for that, to take advantage of the very next AF if it comes, so that I don't have to muck around waiting for days. Which is kind of good forward planning on the doc's behalf. I'm hoping this iui is successful, of course!!!

Lesley, I was on 150 IU of Gonal F daily. If I have to go through the jabbing protocol again, the dose will be increased to 450 IU. :eek: Sounds a lot, doesn't it?

It's funny. I wanted to cover all bases in case I ovulated early, but DH suffered performance anxiety, so guess what a desperate woman does?? ;) She gets a sterile 3 ml syringe, gets him to donate into a clean disposable cup, aspirates his donation and squirts it up herself! It all sounds a bit gross, but I figured it's better than nothing. Then I get on the Net and find out it's one method of DIY artificial insemination - aka "Turkey Baster Method".

Gosh, the things us women get up to!

Chat soon.

lissyloulou

11-04-2011, 17:40

hi gals,
called FS today to discuss monitoring me more/lap procedure. secretary said i couldn't get in until Thursday. so i got off phone and thought some more. i am on Day 2 today, so if i don't start injections today or tomorrow and then see FS on thurs and she says no to the lap i've missed this cycle for nothing. i realised that i shouldn't be playing doctor (or God) to myself and it's probably just me being so frustrated, but imagine how terrible it would be if i missed this cycle, couldn't get in for the lap this month and we would have fallen preg this month... i am such a 'what if' person i just couldn't shoulder those thoughts. so i called back FS and said to the secretary, look i'll take the thurs appointment as i want to discuss some things with FS but i think i should just go ahead with her plans, she is the doc after all:rolleyes:. FS said on our 1st appt that we would do 3 - 4 iui's, then if no luck do a lap, then onto ivf. so we have only doen 2 iui's so far. this is now cycle 3. so i got the new drugs today (just 50 puregon again) and did the first jab at lunchtime at hospital.

i figure i can make a better plan with FS on thurs. she did say that if it didn't work last time she would be upping the puregon dose at about day 6 after an u/s, so if i see her on thurs we can still do that. she was unhappy with the fact we only got 1 follie at iui when we had 2 good ones on the 1st u/s in cycle 2.

i can also say to her that if we don't get success this cycle that i would like to discuss having a lap next. it will be 3 cycles and she said 3 - 4 so that makes sense. her secretary told me you can't do a cycle of iui if you have a lap that month, so it will take having a month off. at least we will have a plan if this one doesn't stick. will be better than getting AF and panicing not knowing if i should do another cycle or a lap. it needs to be planned rather than me trying to play FS:rolleyes:

another thing i thought of is that i wonder if the reason i have not been monitored more (or supportive drugs after iui) is due to my particular circumstances? i guess we all have different reasons why we are having iui's...for me there is apparently nothing wrong with DH or me. just unexplained infertility. anyway, i can ask on thursday and see what she says

so onwards we go...cannot believe it's starting again!...

good luck pretty - hope you've got a sticky one today:babydust1::goodvibes:

HIIC - patience really is a virtue you must be learning so much about. you poor love, hope you find things to distract in the meantime:hugs:

lesley - thanks, yeah i took it real easy on weekend and leftovers for dinner tonight so no cooking, yay! you must tell us when you get the first kick!:goodvibes::cheerleader2:i have no idea about stages of pregnancy and when to expect this:confused:

WOAS - any news yet? as you will see mine was not good. i'm looking forward now though:)

Schnauzer

11-04-2011, 19:57

Hi Ladies,

Sorry for the disappearing act, after the week my husband was really unwell i started blood testing, had my iui done on Wednesday then we left straight from the hospital for a few nights break to the Hunter Valley and Port Stephens, then we arrived back in Sydney to my niece's birthday party, followed by a day of catching up on house work.

I go in for a progesterone test this Wednesday, then the following Wednesday for a PG blood test if AF hasn't arrived by then. I am a bit nervous, we only had 1.6mil sperm after they defrosted 2 straws, they said over 65% of them were moving very well and doing what they needed to tho. It's not very many, but then I think that's still around 1mil good ones, and I guess 500k up each tube, and I only need one so there's still hope! We have another 50 straws frozen but they said they want to be conservative with them since my husband is an oncology patient.

My niece's birthday party had 2 pg women both due within 2 weeks, one being my sister in law, and both had a lot of trouble conceiving so it was much easier for me to feel happy for them. My sister in law had tried for over 2 years, unexplained infertility, so then they had IVF and she got her BFP on her second cycle. My sister's friend has a 4 year old she took about 4 years to get pg with, unexplained infertility but they chose not to have treatment, then after he was born she decided to start trying again after a few months because of how long it took to conceive the first time and it took her over 3 years. Dreams really do come true.

Pretty - I'm sorry your IVF journey has been delayed, fingers crossed for a BFP from your IUI today.

Lissy - sorry to hear AF has shown, I know that heartbreaking feeling :(

lissyloulou

12-04-2011, 12:30

hey schnauzer:wave:nice to see you...so let me guess, you have a very cute puppy to inspire that name?? i met a baby schnauzer on the weekend, he was so energetic and lovely. very smart pups generally. anyway, glad things are moving along for you and sometimes no news is good news!!

just gotta share something with you ladies, that i know you will understand. i wanted to punch a lady last night!!:eek: you will not BELIEVE what she said to me. and to make it worse, this is the SECOND time this woman has said this to me - what gives??!! i thought that the last time she must have felt so bad and realised she said something insensitive, so i thought that this time i would be safe to tell her about the fact i've started fertility treatment. some people just have NO IDEA!!!:no:

anyway, story goes this lady (and by the way she is nice aside from this issue) is a member at my home group meeting (12 step fellowship). generally we get along well. she is older than me by about 10-15 yrs. has 2 grown kids. so she asked me how i was last night and not that i go around shouting it from the rooftops, but we had discussed kids before and there are not many females in my home group. and i thought since the last time she must SURELY feel bad for being insensitive, wow was i wrong!!! she actually REPEATED what she said the first time. only it hurt worse as it was the SECOND time and made me feel that i must be stupid/glutton for punishment to open up to a woman that cleary has no idea about such things....but i know that this is not my fault

anyway drum roll...she goes, 'oh you're having fertility treatment'. oh gee, let me tell you for the 2nd time!!!!:hair:
'i wish i could give you some of what i've got, i'm just TOO FERTILE'
'that's right, my husband and i wanted to fall pregnant and days later i was so sick to the stomach with morning sickness literally the same week and was pregnant straight away both times' practically saying (and implying with rolling of eyes) oh poor her that she's so damn fertile!!!!!!!:hair::mad:

i'm sorry but i have to say this somewhere - what a B**CH!!!!!! seriously how can you say that to someone who has told you they have been trying for 2 years and doing fertility treatment???!!!! and then she goes 'well i hope that works out for you'

believe me i will NEVER be mentioning this to her again - i hope for her sake that she doesn't ask me about it too as i cannot guarantee that i will not SNOT her in the face!!!

lissyloulou

12-04-2011, 12:56

just want to say that i consider myself to be a pretty tolerant person, willing to look at good side of others etc. and as soon as i walked away from this lady i did let it go as there were other people to talk to and i honestly was not dwelling on it last night. it just hit me today and i guess after reading some bubhub i was like - whoa i need to write this to someone who will understand!
i don't hate the lady, don't think that is possible for me. i get that she is just oblivious to her hurtful comments and don't think she is malicious.

just needed to vent to you guys and glad i did:D
i can like/accept the person and not her behaviour
now i can forget about her STOOPID comments and move on:yes:

oh my goodness, just remembered i'll be seeing this again lady tonight.
will be sure to keep a dignified distance...

aurora78

12-04-2011, 20:35

hi eveyone how are u all going. we had a wonderful time on our getaway from reality but no sign of making a baby. got them today and when i rang the doctors to call in for day1 they said straight out due to all the bloody public holkidays this month that they couldnt do a cycle. im so upset im like it didnt happen last month as were away or the month before as had too many eggs. bloody hell than the nurse said u can always count the days and try again naturally im thinking we have been tryng for years why would it work this time. sorry guys im just ****ed off and really annoyed. also i recieved a letter in the mail saying that cause im frozen sperm as hubby works away in august we are required to pay more money for the sample to be stored. what a joke!! i havent even had a cycle of iui done yet and now they want more money from us.

sorry im venting so much promise next post will be more positive anyways goodluck this month for those that are doing a cycle :babydust1::fingerscrossed:for you.

lissyloulou

14-04-2011, 16:50

hi girls...

hi aurora, that's strange about the public holidays thing - i've not had that mentioned to me and i am doing an iui cycle this month. day 1 was sunday for me, so day 5 today. i have short cycles and ovulate early so maybe that's why. scheduled for u/s monday then iui tues (day 10). sorry to hear that you have miss out this cycle, it must be a very frustrating time for you:hugs:

update on me :
went to FS this morn. discussed options, she said she thinks we are wasting our time with iui. she has suggested we go straight to ivf. she even offered to cancel this cycle, but said we may as well go ahead seeing as we've started injections. she doesn't think it's best to do a lap now, rather do 1 cycle ivf, if still not preg then do a lap and have 1 month off then back to ivf (with FETs potentially). what i love is that i didn't realise you don't do the full ivf cycle every month. she has explained that hopefully if you get enough fertilised eggs that you could get a few FETs out of the 1 ivf cycle. i kind of had this idea but understand better after she explained it.

so it's all stations go!!!!!:smiliedance: i feel a mixture of excitement/fear/relief!!...all of you ladies will know what i mean...not sure if dancing man adequately describes it but he will do lol

another thing is that she has upped my perugon to 75 from day 6. she said there is potential for us to have too many follicles however she has done emergency egg retrieval before :confused: and that if that happens then we might be able to turn it into an ivf cycle... she said not to worry about that now though as we just need to see what happens next week

so pretty i will be joining you soon!! it hasn't really sunk in yet...
(unless of course we fall preg this month which would be well, you guys know - the best thing in the world)

the success rates FS told me about blew me away. she says with our history the iui is maybe 10%, but not too different than naturally DTD for us. (she did say previously that DTD for us after 2 yrs no luck equates to about 1-2% chances each month to continue). FS says considering DH guys are good and i am healthy and age 32 that our chances are 65% first cycle!!!:hyper: it sounds so high!! and that the whole 1st ivf cycle (including all FETs from that one) is 80%!!!! whoa!!! now i'm not sure if these are her clinics success rates etc but i'll take them whatever they are!

such big news for us, i honestly didn't understand how anyone would be excited or looking forward to ivf until i started this journey. now i just can't wait to get this show on the road! and DH is really happy/excited too

oh also, FS said about the lap that she might go in and find nothing and we've wasted another month. she got out the photos of my last lap and said i had mild endo but nothing that would have stopped me falling preg. she said some women just get bad period pain as they have sensitive receptors in the uterus (no joke i have been in pain 8 days this month!) and that's life and sometimes even having a lap doesn't help. my tubes were all clear etc so there's no reason to believe that has changed. she said the best solution for me is to fall preg! but she did say if we get no luck after 1st cycle (1st FET) then we will do the lap anyway just to check it out. so i'm happy with that.

would love to get an update from anyone, hope you are all ok :hugs:

prettydino

14-04-2011, 22:21

Hi all,

Aurora, I hear you. I missed out during Dec/early Jan because of the X'mas/New Year holidays. My gynae was a bit concerned about the Easter/ANZAC day weekend, because my Day 1 will be around then if this 3rd iui doesn't work out, and CFC offices won't be open for me to go in and pick up extra Gonal F (and I am not so flush as to buy a syringe of drugs just in case before I know whether I need it or not). I've got just enough Gonal F left in a syringe for one day so will see what happens timing-wise.

Lissylou, things are moving along for you! Let unworthy talk run off your back. My own mother often says things like," Wow, I had irregular periods and still managed to get pregnant 6 times", "Not enough sex? Never heard of that before", "Infertility doesn't run in our family". I know she doesn't mean to hurt me, but sometimes I wish she would say nothing, rather than say useless things like that. Lately she's started telling me I should take a break from all this fertility treatment, go visit my sister and her new baby, cuddle the bub and maybe that'll get me pregnant. Seriously, sometimes I wonder what planet she comes from. And she is an educated woman too. So frustrating.:confused:

Anyway, not much to report on my front. In my 2ww. Been using the Crinone pessaries, not particularly difficult really. Although I think this added hormonal support is making my boobs a little tender.

Good luck to all and stay well.

lesley76

15-04-2011, 12:21

Hi Girls :wave:

How is everyone?

Pretty, when is your pg bt? Some people are so insensitive with the things they say. For this reason I really didn't tell anyone about my fertility treatment. It such a personal thing. I don't think my parents could have got their heads around it either. How is the art and craft going?

HIIC how are you. I'm so excited for you for your holiday :smiliedance:
Lissy, wow you have a lot going on at the mo. It's such an exciting time. You are getting so close to your bfp now. I look forward to your updates. I have felt a couple of flutters but it's hard to pin point them as it's still quite early.

Aurora, that suckx that you have to wait out a cycle. I'm sure HIIC can relate exactly to how your feeling. It must be very frustrating. I had to wait out a cycle in December. I just used the time as me time. I'm glad I did too because I got my bfp the next cycle. I was ready.

Afm, no exciting news really. I have been getting indigestion everyday. Even if I eat a piece of fruit I get it. My stomach must be getting pushed up further by bub. Causing it to shrink. I get full very easily. Other than that I have no symptoms. They say the second trimester is the best. So far this is true. I feel the same way I did before I got my bfp. Sometimes I have to remind myself that I am pg :laughing:.

I hope you all have a great weekend :hyper:

He is in control

16-04-2011, 13:45

Hi babes,

So sorry for not responding over the past couple of days. I've just signed in to check what's going on and I can heaps of things have happened. Wow!

Aurora...I feel you dear:hugs: I've been through 2 months of waiting and I've got 2 more months to wait but I know I will get there. I understand how you feel but if we have waited for 2 years, then waiting another 1 month or so should be a walk over but not always so. Not long again dear, hang in there.

Lissy...That's awesome news and also good to know that you got a plan B just in case things do not go as planned. All the best. You might not need to revert to plan B anyway. We'll see how you go. You've got high success chances and take it as it is, if your FS who has reviewed your file/condition says so, then so shall it be, they are the professionals anyway:fingerscrossed:. Emergency egg retrieval, she must be so cute! I wish my FS offered to do that with my 8 lovely follies this cycle, arrgh! I would have been so glad, now, the eggs are 'wasting' away, still waiting for AF!

My FS at CFC also said he will cancel lots of cycles because of the holidays, I guess you are just blessed enough to have short cycles, you will be done with the insemination before the holidays so :goodvibes:

Pretty...I'm hoping and praying you do not have to buy more medications over the holiday period. I certainly wouldn't buy such expensive medications without being sure I would be needing them, I just hope everything falls perfectly well (timing wise). :fingerscrossed: for you. Mothers can be funny, I love her description "infertility doesn't run in the family"- that sounds like something my father would say- ah ah! He even talks more about this issue than my mother, I wonder why he can't just shut up and watch how we go...hiss! My mum is so cute, she only talks about it when I raise the issue but she definitely has no idea that I'm into ART, no way, I wouldn't even say a word in that line until I'm 7 months pregers- this is personal, it's just easy for me to deal with loss/disappointments when too many people do not know about it. Apart from you girls on BH, no one knows what I'm up to, except for DH and God of course!

Lesley...It's so good to know 2nd trimester is better than the first, I so look forward to mine too:rolleyes::goodvibes:.

Schnauzer...All the best this cycle.

AFM...I've been quite (just quite) distracted of late as I'm still strugling with some academic stuffs plus I'm excited about the up coming holidays. I'am also waiting patiently for AF and of course waiting patiently for June/July - by then I should be fully set (financially) for my 1st IVF.

That's all for now girls, Pretty, Sch, Lissy...I'm keeping everything crossed for you as your tww passes by :hugs::babydust1: I wish you all BFP.

lissyloulou

20-04-2011, 13:15

hi gals,
well i had the IUI yesterday. U/S showed one good egg on Monday, one little one may not grow enough. but we only need one i guess!

no pain at all yesterday which is good. i was fuming in the morn though as went to CFC to do sample drop for IUI and tried to book our rego appt for IVF. they couldn't get in until 10th May...which is after we wanted to start IVF:(
AF is due around 2/3 May. anyway told FS about it and she said a few of her patients had been told the same due to pub hols. she is writing an email to CFC to try to pull a few strings but can't promise anything. no rego appt = no ivf so we may need to have the month off. oh well, what can you do?! had to let it go as had IUI later that day so just flopped on couch watching bad TV to distract me

i asked if we could do the rego session elsewhere (they have 2 other sites) but was a no go. FS said they would be just as busy anyway.

well if we get a BFP this cycle we won't need it anyway! here's hoping:rolleyes:
this may sound bad but i'm just not expecting anything this month, fully expecting to need ivf as fs said we would. perhaps that is healthy then i won't be so dissapointed. who knows maybe this will give us luck lol

i really love my FS's bedside manner. she gave DH a high 5 yesterday for his excellent sample:D said he was an over achiever lol. then she said with a sample like this why the hell aren't we getting preg and 'it's really started to p*ss me off'. i do like her style:laughing: :yes:

anyway nothing else to report hope you guys are well.

oh, and HIIC - seems the emergency egg retrievel wasn't gonna happen - not sure why FS even told me that:confused: she said when i went for my scan that she was hoping i didn't have too many follies as we were not doing IVF this month:confused:. anyway didn't matter as i only had 1. i was thinking maybe she would do the emergency egg thing as we were already discussing ivf? who knows. but i wonder if reason FS wouldn't do it for you was that you hadn't done the IVF rego appt? i know i can't go ahead until it's done

Pretty - when can you POAS? i am now officially in TWW too and so far AF has actually arrived 12dpo, so i guess i can POAS on 1st May. ordered 50 PTs off ebay:eek: now i can POAS whenever i like without worrying about cost lol :smiliedance:

lesley76

20-04-2011, 17:46

Hi girls,

How is everyone?

Pretty - How are you going? Do you feel any different?

HIIC - How are you? I think you must be close to going on your holiday now:hyper:
I hope you have a really nice break.

Lissy - Yay for the IUI! You must be glad it's over. Thats awesome about DH's sperm. Lets hope you don't even have to worry about IVF. We are due for another BFP around here.

Afm, I had another ob appointment today. Bub is getting very big now. I didn't see anything, but my instincts are telling me it's a boy. I just have that feeling.
I had a bit of a fainting spell last night and then again today at the ob office. I have low blood pressure and low iron. I have to start taking iron supplements straight away and have to go for more tests tomorrow. I have always been a fainter. I hope it's not going to get worse. I'm not surprised about the iron, I only ever really ate 1 meal a day until I got pg. The past always catches up :yes:.
Df and I have been fighting like carzy lately too. He is a crayfisherman and the season is up and down at the moment so he has been home ALL the time. It's driving me crazy!! It's probably my hormones too. Not a good combo. We have heaps to do over easter to keep us busy so I hope it settles down :hair:.
Anyway sorry for my rant.
Hope you all are well:goodvibes:

lissyloulou

21-04-2011, 21:45

hi gals,
quick post just to say hope you all have a lovely easter with lots of chocolate!!! i'm going down coast with DH, will be back Monday:D
Denise - hope that DH of yours calms down, sometimes i think my DH has his AF the way they can carry on sometimes:laughing:
so glad to hear bubs is getting bigger too, sounds just right!:cuddle:

prettydino

22-04-2011, 12:35

Hi girls!

Sorry I've been MIA for a while. Not a whole lot to report.

Hi Lissy, hurray for your iui. Let's hope it is successful and you can avoid the whole rigmarole of ivf.

HIIC, hope you enjoy your holiday!

Lesley, glad to hear bubby is growing well. Yes, the male gender can be rather premenopausal at times too. Ride it through, lovie. We all know females are the superior gender, haha.:laughing: We can be very magnanimous when required...

Afm, it's hard to tell what's going on. I get to poas on Tuesday if AF hasn't showed by then. Usually there are subtle signs of her impending arrival but this time it's completely obscured by these crinone pessaries. They are easy to insert but what I didn't realise is that after several days of administration, "stuff" seems to build up inside and eventually creeps out as a crazy-looking discharge (avert your eyes now if needed), rather like off-coloured ricotta cheese. And gives me a rather gummy feeling down below, which is how I normally get the warning about AF. Boobs are also rather tender, which I know is a side effect of the crinone.

Bottom line is, I don't know!

On the crafty side, I'm moving along with all my sewing. Now starting to quilt my new cat motif quilt, gosh, hand quilting is rather tricky! The needles are so small I nearly had a fit when I saw them. The needle eye is so tiny you can only get one strand of thread through, too small even to use a conventional needle-threader. Phew. Anyway, that's what's keeping me busy these days.

Have a good holiday weekend, everyone. Let's hope this beautiful weather holds out. :wave:

aurora78

23-04-2011, 15:10

hi everyone how are we all going? not much to report for me we arent doing a cycle this month as you all know due to public holidays(which sucks) and im still waiting for my sister to have her baby and on top of all this my hubby came home from the mines early on thursday afternoon after only been at work for 2 days as he has gastro. well there goes my nice quiet weekend as he is driving me crazy as he isnt well and is very demanding at the moment and he is playing war games on the ps3 so loud that i can hear them throughout the whole house. so there ladies im having an ok time i guess.

well enough complaining will make the most of it all and goodluck to those in ttw and :babydust1::goodvibes: too.

prettydino

26-04-2011, 09:23

Hello girls,

I am in shock!!

I tested last night and again this morning and both showed double lines!! I have trouble believing it's a BFP!:D

I thought I was imagining things so both times showed the pee stick to DH and asked him to count the number of lines. The funny man, never having seen a pee stick before, first time he looked at it he said 'one'. I was so disappointed. Only after reading the box did he realise you are supposed to add the number of lines together, not just ONE per window.:laughing:

Today is D17 after trigger. My mind refuses to let me believe it's true. Constantly I am fearful my bubble will burst.

I have such a rollercoaster of emotions going through me.

What do I do next???

lesley76

26-04-2011, 10:19

aaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh PRETTY :celebrate::celebrate:

I'M SO EXCITED:smiliedance::smiliedance:

I was thinking of you last night...I had a feeling!!!
Can you go and get a bt????

Woohooooo:hyper::hyper::hyper:

lissyloulou

26-04-2011, 18:17

:cheerleader2::cheerleader1::hyper:WOOHOOOOO!!!!!! ! Pretty I am SO EXCITED for you!!!!!
I don't even know what to write, I can't even imagine how excited you are!!!!
Wow, just to even see 2 lines on a HPT must be so thrilling...I've never seen it before and I pray to see it one day and that day has come for you!! Wow, not only am I so happy for you but it gives me so much hope.
Yay!!!!!!!!!!:smiliedance::smiliedance:
:gl:With BT

prettydino

26-04-2011, 19:43

I am still stunned, although in a happy way, of course. Strange how things work out. There I was, sorrowing because my IVF cycle didn't work out. And I get a bfp on this 3rd "accidental" iui.

I actually went out and bought a different brand of hpt, and did a THIRD test, just to be super-duper sure. Now all 3 are sitting next to my computer.

Lesley, can't go for bt because still a public holiday today and CFC is closed. But I will be phoning them 1st thing tomorrow for sure! I need to get more crinone pessaries anyway.

Lissy, yes, I was pretty excited to see the 2 lines appear.

Thank you, girls.:cheerleader2::cheerleader1::cheerleader2::c heerleader1:

moosmum2

26-04-2011, 21:39

OMG!!!!Pretty i am so happy for you!!!!:celebrate: i wish you a very sticky 9 months!!!!:cheerleader1::cheerleader2::hyper:

He is in control

27-04-2011, 07:37

Uhm Pretty:celebrate:...Congrats, you so much deserve this. I am super duper excited for you and of course it gives me some hope too that my time will come.

Like Lissy said, it's amazing to see double lines, I have never seen double lines too but I pray and I know that my eyes will behold double lines soon.

I can imagine how over the moon you are right now. Please fill us in when you do your BT. Can't wait.

Just returned from NZ this morning and the first thing I saw on this thread was pretty's news. Will catch up with everyone later.

Cheers girls.

prettydino

28-04-2011, 12:05

Hello all,

I had a blood test yesterday.

Nurse from CFC rang and said my beta level is 842. Now I'm not sure what that means because I think diff labs could use diff ranges but she said that is a pretty good level, so I'm happy.

It's real!!! :celebrate:

lissyloulou

28-04-2011, 12:41

Yay pretty!!!!! In docs waitroom on phone so can't use all the pretty dancing icons:)
I wonder if hcg preg hormone is the same as beta? Sounds good anyway!!

AFM - started spotting yest and a little today. Cramping a bit now, but strange as AF not due til mon or tues. And mon us only CD23!!! So that makes today CD19. Possibly implantation bleeding, but not getting too hopeful as past couple months have had pain and spotting for days before AF.
CFC called yest and moved our rego appt up to this morn! Yay! So just finished that and ready to go as soon as AF shows a real day 1. I may need to have BT tomorrow to make sure I'm not UTD as I will prob need the meds over long weekend. Oh how I love public holidays but they sure play with fertility treatment!!
Anyway just do happy that appt got moved up so if we need ivf can start straight away.

Talk soon! Lis xo

lesley76

28-04-2011, 21:14

Oh Pretty I'm so so happy for you :D

Your levels are your hcg. I can't quite remember what mine were at your stage but that sounds really good!!

I know what you mean about it not feeling real..it takes a while to sink in.

Yay now I have someone to whinge to about all my aches and pains :laughing:.

I hope we have some more bfps soon :D

prettydino

29-04-2011, 09:38

Hello ladies,

Thank you so much for all your good wishes. I hope this little one burrows in deep and sticks around for a long, long time! (10 months to be exact!)

I will have my first scan in another 2-3 weeks.:smiliedance:

I still feel pretty good. DH's parents have been ringing heaps (my own mum has been text-msging me daily) with lots of advice, things like eat well, don't exercise too much, careful coming down stairs, etc, etc. You get the drift. His mum told me she will make a trip from overseas to come and stay end of June, so that she can brew up all these chinese herbal tonics to "fortify" me?! Aaarrrrggh. These soups tend to taste incredibly foul, even though I know they will probably be very good for me. My sister's MIL made her soups worth about several thousand dollars a bowl (HongKong money), and she produced a baby as strong as an ox! So I suppose I should be a good girl and swallow everything I'm given.:laughing:

Feeling a bit surreal still. DH being very protective. Insisting I go to bed early to get lots of rest. Stroking my tummy (even though it's still pretty flat) and watching what I'm eating. I think he's really excited even though he's a man of few words.

I am so glad I am part of this very supportive group of ladies and I hope there will be many more BFPs to come. I'll still hang around, as I want to hear that everyone has graduated. :smiliedance::smiliedance:

:babydust1: to all.

He is in control

29-04-2011, 17:12

Pretty...Your news is so touching and very encouraging too. It's also great to know that you will remain on board just like Lesley just to keep supporting and encouraging us.

Yay with your hcg level/beta level, that's really good for a 4 to 5 weeks according to what I've read on bubhub, I can confidently say that YOU ARE VERY VERY PREGNANT, I wish you a happy and healthy 9 months+ pregnancy from the deepest depth of my heart. I pray that a full term healthy baby will be yours to show off at the end of your pregnancy. Please take all the necessary herbs as you will agree that mums are the best when it comes to issues relating to pregnancy maintenance, so please heed to your MIL's remedy.

Lesley...Great to know you are fine and you are also blessed with a partner now, so you would discuss endlessly with someone in the same boat. Remember to offer her advises for the first trimester.

Lissy...All the best, I pray and hope you wouldn't need the IVF eventually and if you have to, then I wish you well, I pray the first go works and gives you what you deserve..BFP.

Rightnow, I feel eveyone is moving ahead except me, but I know one day...my time will come. Got to go home now...mustn't miss the bus. Will get on again tomorrow.

Love you all....HIIC

lissyloulou

30-04-2011, 10:53

Hi gals,

HIIC, I've been thinking of you:hugs:
It must certainly be hard with all the waiting you are doing and all the other stuff going in here.
I just know your time will come and it will be all the more sweet when it does. I hope you enjoyed your time in NZ with DH. Some days are better than others, I'm trying my best to be grateful for DH and the time we have together. Sometimes I just need to escape and read a good book too. I spent many hours watching the royal wedding yesterday and it was a great distraction!!

Lesley & Pretty - always happy to hear your updates! It's exciting to cheer from the sidelines:cheerleader2:

AFM - still cramping & spotting. Think day 1 will be tomorrow so start injections on Monday I think. Picked up drugs yesterday from CFC. Am also going in for nose surgery (that's another story:rolleyes:) on Wednesday. General anesthetic, am not looking forward to it. Thought I would have to delay due to ivf but FS is happy for me to go ahead. I think I wanted her to say no!! Apparently the condition can get worse during pregnancy so it's best to do it now. Called enlarged turbinates, comes from a previous infection where it feels like I can't breathe properly but there's nothing actually blowing out of nose. It's blood vessels at the back of nose or something swollen up. Anyway I went in after my ivf appointment, had waiter weeks to see a specialist and though she would prescribe me more nasal sprays or something - but no! Bloody surgery!! I was shocked. So will be having 2x general anesthetics in 2 weeks. Feel like a hypochondriac, but I had to reason if I wasn't going through ivf and it was just my nose it wouldn't be so bad, it's just bloody and timing!! will prob have a bloody nose for 5 days as they have to burn up your nose and let scar tissue develop so it contracts. Anyway, was laughing with DH and saying the wait for EPU won't be so bad as I'll be too worried about my bloody nose!! Lol:eek::laughing:
Going down coast to see parents so will be back on line Monday.
Have a great weekend everyone, whatever stage of the journey you're at:goodvibes:

prettydino

30-04-2011, 17:02

Hi all,

HIIC, thank you for all your good wishes and kind words. They mean a lot to me and I wish for you all the best that your time will come very, very soon. Never give up hope. I nearly did (thinking that iuis and even ivf weren't going to work for me), and the universe sprung a surprise, oh, but what a wonderful surprise!

Liss, good luck for your surgery. Eeeks, it all sounds yuckky. But hopefully you'll come through without too much discomfort and no more nasal blockage and snoring for you!!:laughing: I wish you all the best on your journey too, with the jabs and everything.

Did everyone watch the Royal Wedding? Didn't the new Duchess look stunning? I thought the ceremony was so tasteful and elegant, although I have no idea why Princess Beatrice had such a bizarre thing on her head. It looks like preserved deer antlers. Just shows money can't buy elegance and taste. Even Camilla looked better. I actually did think Victoria Beckham looked very chic, despite her being quite preggers. The hymns were lovely. I'm such a sucker for royal weddings, even watched the Danish one for Princess Mary all through and that was aired at some ungodly hour.

:hugs: to everyone.

lissyloulou

30-04-2011, 17:28

Lol.., I thought poor old Beatrice looked like she had a vagina on her head!! Or at least a funky looking uterus (I guess I've got it on the brain lol). I loved it too. The princes looked so handsome in their uniforms...teared up thinking how proud their mum Diana would be. As for the dress I was expecting something with a lot more structure and punch, but it grew on me and I think it suited her personality to a tee. It was ever so romantic and feminine, I just kinda expected my jaw to drop to the ground over the design iykwim. It was ladylike and respectful, fitting for a royal dress. And it will not date in the slightest, in 20 or 40 yrs it will still look lovely. But jeez her sister almost outshone her there for a second! What a stunning girl! Surely she won't be short of attention now. They are both very beautiful girls.

lesley76

01-05-2011, 11:04

Pretty, the only advise I have for you for the first trimester is make sure that you have LOTS of time to rest:sleeping:.You will need it! And I had to learn the hard way that I can no longer have any fluids either side of an hour of eating. If I did drink with my meals in the first trimester, it would make me sick. If I do it now I get really bad indigestion. But we are all different so it may not happen to you. I'm not going to give you any more advise unless you ask because you will get bombarded with advise from friends and rellies. :yes:.

My Dear HIIC, How are you? How was New Zealand? I want to hear all about it? It must feel for you that everyone is moving ahead, but it wont be long now until you are back in the thick of it. It's May today!! And you have all of us hoping and praying for you...someone must be listening :yes:. Your day will come and I can't wait for it :)

Wow the wedding was nice. I think Kate looked lovely.My Df and I have a theory though......I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this and I'm sorry if I do but I think Prince William is gay and that it is a marriage of convenience. And Harry is moving in with them because he is going to father her child.
You can probably tell that I have way too much time on my hands at the moment :laughing:.
It just doesn't seem to me like they are in love. And what the hell was Ian Thorpe doing there...seriously!

Anyway, enough of my babble. Have a lovely weekend.

lesley76

01-05-2011, 11:07

Lissy, sorry I got carried away with my babbling. Wow 2 ops in 1 month. I hope your dh is going to wait on you hand and foot. It won't be long either until you are in the 2ww. This is a lucky thread so it wont be long until you bfp either.

moosmum2

01-05-2011, 11:08

May be Ian is Williams boyfriend???:laughing: I love insight very entertaining:p

lissyloulou

01-05-2011, 15:21

Can't use any funny icons as on phone...but I'm laughing big time! I too was thinking what on earth is thorpie doing there lol... Another funny thing, I was yelling at the screen 'turn around William!!' as she was walking down the aisle, one of the best things at a wedding for me is seeing the groom watching his bride walk up towards him. Perhaps it's customary or just the British stiff upper lip thing...I just wanted him to turn around! Had finally forgotten about it all today then went to shops and it's already on numerous magazine covers, guess we'll be hearing about it for awhile yet!

lesley76

01-05-2011, 18:38

I think Ian IS his BF too :laughing::laughing:
And also....I think William could do with a trip to advanced hair! Seriously..what the hell is going on there!

lissyloulou

02-05-2011, 08:51

Advanced hair, yeah yeah!!! You crack me up Lesley...again wish I had icons to show my amusement:) I was hoping he could leave his hat on during ceremony! Poor guy, some guys lose their hair in a good way and have a strong shaped head which looks good shaved - my DH is one of the fortunate ones thank God!! Lol

He is in control

02-05-2011, 12:36

Hi everyone:wave:,

Sweet sweet thread with heaps of positive babes and the love in your hearts is un-fathomable. I feel great each time I remember I am not alone.

Pretty...thanks for those kind words of yours and I hope you are having fun. Will you be returning to work at the end of your 3 months leave or would you look to extend your time off to cover the first trimester. All the best honey. Another question, are you still on crinone pessaries? for how long?

Lissy...Heaps of things happening for you all at once, that's a good distraction, you wouldn't have to wait and wait for the next step in your IVF journey. Did AF eventually turn up or not as yet?

Moos...Sure you are having fun. Enjoy the remaining months honey:hugs:

Lesley...Oh my oh my!!!! NZ was fun, went to South Islands and a place called Antartica where you enter into an ice "tunnel" with boots and helmets and jackets, gloves etc and you roll through the tunnel with the temperature taken down to -20 degrees I think...it was so much fun and a great time out.

I am not too good at giving details of holidays / time outs / movies etc...I am so boring and that expalins why I haven't said anything about our stay in NZ, however girls...WE HAD FUN. I mean FUN! in every way you can imagine. We did BD...woohoo! Hot Romance:rolleyes:

I'm working overtime just to make up for the holiday costs (you know what I mean). Better get back to work now.

Prince Williams...you guys crack me up! That's funny.

Lissy...You wanted him to look back and behold his bride...I was actually thinking "was he forced to marry this girl" plus in my own opinion that balcony kiss was too FLAT :laughing: I expected more passionate kiss:(. On a second thought, it may be because they are royalists - there could be limitations on how "public" they could get, anyway, I wouldn't appreciate that kind of ZA kiss on my wedding day ...:no::no::no:

This forum is open to criticisms...that's interesting and makes us human anyway...we shouldn't be discussing TTC only.

Love you all...HIIC

prettydino

02-05-2011, 15:16

Hi gals!

Gosh, you people really crack me up! Yeah, I thought the balcony kiss was a bit FLAT, but I suppose neither of them would have had much sleep leading up to it and were probably exhausted!! Now they can make up for lost time! The look on the little girl's face was priceless! DH was so sweet, went out and bought me a souvenir New Idea with all these great photos without me even asking.

HIIC, lovely to hear that you had a wonderful time away. Sounded like it truly was the recharge you needed! Yes, I am still on crinone and will need to be on this one a day until I reach 10 weeks. Apparently this is because I was on the IVF suppression protocol earlier.

Lissy, you are funny! Good luck with all your health stuff. Haha, when you said Princess Beatrice's head piece looked like a vagina. Someone told me it looked like fallopian tubes! Man, we've got female bits on our minds!:laughing:

Lesley, thank you so much for your advice. So far so good for me, other than needing an afternoon rest or nap, I'm OK atm. But will keep you all updated.

A strange thing happened. Or 2 actually. the day before I tested positive, a little bunny appeared in my yard. The day after I went to the Taoist temple for a blessing and special prayer for protection, we found the rabbit dead, for no good reason. We decided to see it as a positive, and consider it as the rabbit giving up its gentle soul for me, and it coincides with my 4th to 5th week just as the baby's heart is being formed. For the Chinese, the heart is considered the seat of the soul. We buried it in our garden with a few sprigs of herbs from my garden. And I lit a little incense stick in its honour.

Today, we find a dead hare on the road leading to our suburb. So bizarre, we've lived here for 10 years and never seen a rabbit. Then within a week we see two. We brought it home too and buried it in the park in front of our house, again with herb sprigs, and another incense stick. Again I am choosing to see it as a positive transfer of spiritual energies.

You see, the reason why I place such significance on these rabbits is that if all goes well and our child is born, it will be in the year of the Rabbit - a chinese horoscope thing. A child born in the year of the Rabbit is considered lucky. I was born in the year of the Rabbit myself!! :)

Do you think I am morbid and superstitious?:rolleyes:

Stay well, girls. :hugs:

lissyloulou

04-05-2011, 06:50

The rabbits sound very lucky pretty!! Glad to see you back hiic after a lovely trip, always so special to reconnect with DH isn't it?

AFM, I'm in hospital waitroom for my nose op today...hopefully will be over soon:) AF finally showed properly yesterday after cramping and spotting since last Wednesday!! Wow I think the fertility drugs have certainly effected my cycle. Day 2 today so has 1st puregon 150 this morn. Glad to get the show on the road...
Talk soon xo

He is in control

04-05-2011, 07:35

Lissy:hugs:...All the best today. Be good and I hope you recover swiftly from the nose op. I'm happy everything has started rolling for you, :fingerscrossed: for a sweet IVF journey, I pray for success for you this cycle.

Pretty...:laughing: 2 occurrences certainly is not co-incidence in my opinion. Good luck honey. You must still be over the moon. When do you go back to work?

angelanathan

04-05-2011, 09:21

Morning girls,

Had my first FS appt today. He did a scan and it showed a crater where the egg has been released . I got my lh surge yesterday so hoping i will get pregnant naturally.

Going back in 2 weeks and hopefully will start fsh injections if nothing arrises from this cycle.

lesley76

04-05-2011, 10:26

Pretty, I am all for lucky charms. That sound very lucky to me. Not long until your scan now :D

Lissy, good luck for your op today. Make sure you get plenty of rest after and watch lots of crap tv :)! Yay for your first injection!!!!! How exciting!!

Angel, good luck for this cycle. Hopefully you won't need to worry about fsh...but if you do, you are in good company :yes:

HIIC, do you know when you are starting your first cycle yet? Is it June or July? I am dying for you to start. :cheerleader1:

Have a good day:goodvibes:

prettydino

04-05-2011, 11:39

Welcome Angel!

This is a lucky thread and you are very welcome to join us in our chatter. Good luck for you! :highfive:

Lissy, I wish you a speedy recovery! And yay, for your first jab. It's amazing how empowered and proactive you feel when you get going. I hope for success for you too!

HIIC, my next work contract starts on the first week of July. But guess what, work has emailed asking me to return earlier, citing that "because you are off for such a long time, the service is really overstretched and noone can have a decent break". What the? I'd negotiated this hiatus with the boss with well over 6 months' notice; it's not my fault he didn't plan ahead and get replacements organised. DH/ my GP/ my family/ inlaws/best friend are all telling me to ignore the summons, haha. So I think I will do just that. I am starting to screen calls now. When do you proceed with your next step in the journey?

Lesley, thanks for your cheery words. I need to concentrate on positive omens rather than on negative things!

Bought a William and Kate stamp first day cover for my MIL, as requested.

:smiliedance: to all.

prettydino

04-05-2011, 12:56

Hi all,

Just a quick update.

Had my second beta level done yesterday (D23 post iui) to see if it's going up.

I came in at over 11 000! (can't remember the exact number)

Very relieved at the result.

angelanathan

04-05-2011, 13:58

Hey,

Thank you for all the wishes, i do hope that this cycle works too.

Do anyone of you use ovulation predictor kits, and if so when do you dtd.

I got the surge yesterday and had last night off, should i dtd tonight?
Even though doc said the egg has been released?

prettydino

04-05-2011, 16:07

Hi Angel,

I didn't use an ovulation predictor kit, as my dr was monitoring my follicles via ultrasound. Neither did I have any particular blood tests to detect ovulation time.

From what he said when planning my iuis, the idea was to have the sperm ready and waiting to meet the egg at the moment of release, because sperm hangs around much longer than the eggy.

But...I can't see any harm in dtd, because you never know!

:babydust1: to you.

lesley76

04-05-2011, 18:11

Angel I used to use opk's but my cycle was a bit out of whack so I could never really tell if I had O'd or not. If I were you I would bd for a couple of days still, just in case :)

He is in control

05-05-2011, 08:12

Angel...Welcome and all the best.

Lissy...How are you now?

Pretty and Lesley...It will likely be a July cycle from the way things are looking. I am a bit "****ty" / "moody" today, just one of those unhappy days.

Pretty...congrats on your levels, that's great!

Chat soon!

lissyloulou

05-05-2011, 10:41

Oh guys I feel revolting!!! My whole head is blocked, can't breath out of nose and not allowed to blow it for 5 days!!!:( Been up most of night so just hanging round trying to sleep today, will prob be like this for a few days. There's something about breathing only out of mouth that makes it impossible to sleep until I practically pass out. Oh well, it will pass!
On a better note, day 2 of injections and first scan on Monday.
HIIC, God sure is preparing in you the patience and tolerance of motherhood I feel! I hope things move along quicker than planned, I just know when your time comes we will all be cheering you on like crazy!!!

Welcome angel is it? Sorry can't see names properly on phone:) looks more like Angela to me...you're in great company here. Just DTD like crazy as long as doc says good to go!!

prettydino

05-05-2011, 12:28

Hey Lissy,

Hope you feel better soon!Keep us posted, yeah? Especially re: scan.

HIIC, July will arrive in a FLASH. Spoil yourself in the meantime. :hugs:

Er, Lesley, did you ever feel really constipated or bloated at the start?;)

:babydust1: to all.

lesley76

05-05-2011, 17:46

I'm sorry to say it pretty but I'm still constipated and have been since day 1.
The iron supplements I am on only make it worse. I take metamucil twice a day which helps. I have just resigned myself to the fact that it will be like this for a while. I hope yours passes.

Lissy I hope you feel better soon. It sucks trying to breath out of your mouth. Imagine the satisfaction you are going to have when you can blow your nose.:yes:

HIIC July isn't that far away. I keep thinking how fast the 30th of September is approaching me:D.....It will be here before you know it.

My belly has gotten really big in the last week!!! I feel huge. It's funny though, I haven't really had any cravings and my appetite has stayed the same so far (nearly 5 months now) DF keeps telling me that I must eat more....but I can't physically eat more than I do. I have 3 meals a day and snacks in between, so I think I am eating enough. I have put on nearly 8kgs, not that it worries me because it's all in my boobs :laughing:. They are MASSIVE. Maybe our DF/DH's are to blame for weight gain during pregnancy :laughing:.
I have my big 19 week anatomy scan on Tuesday so :fingerscrossed: that bub is developing well and that there are no problems. I also start hypnobirthing classes on Tuesday. I'm looking forward to it.
I'm getting sucked into masterchef now. When Maggie Beers was on the other night I cried... Hormonal much :yes:. I love her.

prettydino

05-05-2011, 22:52

Hi Lesley,

Thanks for the advice. I might wander along to my friendly pharmacy and pick up a bottle of the magic "M" stuff. My sister says lots of kiwi fruit helped her along. I'm feeling very bloated and blocked up. This morning I woke up with a crampy belly, and felt a bit panicked. Then it turned out it was just constipation after all. Everything went away after a good, ahem, cr*p.;)

I went to see my GP yesterday and gave her the news and she reminded me to only eat for ONE and not for two! She said lots of people make that mistake, and then find the extra weight very difficult to shed after delivery. So I'd say you're doing the right thing, Lesley, going with your appetite! My MIL was lamenting that she was forcefed SEVEN full meals daily during her confinement and has never been able to get rid of the weight since. She promised that she wouldn't do the same to me, well, I'm gonna hold her to it!

Lissy, it must be so uncomfortable to have to breathe out of your mouth! And it would make your lips so dry. Oh, hope you get better soon. I used to live on Beconase for hayfever, because I think I have a slight allergy to cats, but I love them and have 2 of these furbabies. Now my GP says I should give it away and use Fess (just saline, I think) instead. Oh, how am I going to live? I'll have to get up in the morning honking like a set of pipes. Other than that, I might have to vacuum (almost) everyday, yeah right!

HIIC, hope you feel better soon.

:babydust1: to all.

prettydino

08-05-2011, 09:00

Hi Lesley,

Can't seem to open the link to your pic, but managed to see your belly on your avatar.

Growing well, love! Congratulations!

Keep safe.

:hugs:

lesley76

08-05-2011, 11:17

Yeah...I can't figure out how to put photo's on these things :hair:

Thank you :) Yes we are certainly getting there. Only 4 moths to go...not that I'm counting or anything ;)

aurora78

08-05-2011, 19:12

hi everyone sorry i havent been posting lately. well to update you my little sister finally had her baby last sunday night. man he is so cute but its so hard to be around him as it makes me very emotional. to tell you all last monday when my hubby and i went up to visit him i just wanted to take him home there and then and keep him for myself. yet i keep telling myself hes not mine im only hes aunty. today was also very hard as had mum here and it was kylies first mothers day and i felt very left out. well lets keep fingers crossed that i get bfp soon as its really hard to watch my sister with her son. so sorry ive vented lots just feeling a little sad today.

prettydino

09-05-2011, 10:44

Hi Aurora,

I completely understand how you feel. I felt a bit envious when my sister had her baby, but that feeling quickly went away, as I felt so honoured at my promotion into an aunt! Of course, I suspect it helps that she is overseas, so it's not really rubbed in my face everyday.

Look after yourself please. This is going to be an emotional time.

Afm, I'm starting to feel a bit queasy. It's like a "lump" sittiing in the middle just under my breast bone, as though food is stuck there and not moving through. Like digestion has slowed down to a crawl. Burping makes me feel better, funnily enough. So going to have to watch my food intake now.

Oh, I so pray and hope it doesn't get any worse than this! I've had friends who had hyperemesis so bad they've ended up in hospital and on drips. I didn't think morning sickness would start so early!!

Good luck and babydust to all..

lesley76

09-05-2011, 11:36

Aurora, it's nice to see you again :). I'm sorry that you are having these feelings :hugs:. It's never easy when our loved ones have babies. Where abouts are you now in your treatment? We haven't seen you for a while so I can't quite remember.

Pretty, the dreaded indigestion. I get it every day too. It's horrible. I go through tonnes of eno's. That seems to help. Also eating smaller meals and try not to drink with your food...or just after. Also I hear that tomatoes can cause it too. I eat tomatoes every day...probably why I'm getting it but I can't give them up.

Afm, my butt and my thighs are getting a lot bigger :laughing:. I can't believe the change in the last 2 weeks. My knickers are really tight around the tops of my legs and across my butt :laughing:. I can also see an increase in cellulite....It's my body getting me ready for bf I assume. Thanks god winter is on it's way.

I have also been trying to organise our wedding for next year. DF's parents are coming form south africa to visit the baby in Dec/Jan. So he told them yesterday that we are planning our wedding for October next year and they said that they won't be able to come as it's too expensive to come twice. So now we can't get married as df wants his parents there, which is understandable. But can't they just come in October instead of January?????
Why the hell do I have to sacrifice my wedding because they can't move their holiday back a few months!!!!! I'm sooooooo angry! I feel like I always have to compromise what I want for other people. I don't even want them to come in December/January as I would have just had the baby!!!!! I have voiced my opinion VERY strongly about that and yet they are still coming. I don't really want house guests just after bub is born. Especially as they will be here for weeks.:hair: So I guess it looks like we wont be getting married. Or df suggested a registary office :no: or for us to get married in Dec when the inlaws are here......ummmm I would have just had a baby.......don't think I will fit in a wedding dress........
Sorry for the rant but I am REALLY ****ed off!!!!!

I hope you are all having a better day than me!

lissyloulou

09-05-2011, 16:10

hey gals:wave:

OMG...i am just coming out of a living hell!!!!!!! for 3 nights wed/thurs/fri i slept no more than 1.5 hrs per night from not being able to breathe out of nose, by saturday i was in the twilight zone and was either going to go straight to the hospital for them to sedate me or God knows what. luckily got straight into GP and don't even know how i got the words out i was so out of it:eek:
Had to bring DH into the appt incase i lost my words...seriously girls i would not wish this on my worst enemy. i can now undestand why sleep deprivation is a form of torture!!! holy hell it was so unbelievably bad, every minute felt like an hour. fri night i didn't fall asleep until 5.30am after having only such small sleep on previous nights. whoa - preparation for parenthood much:freakingout: lol...

i was also worried about what this would be doing to my poor little eggies:(.
the locum GP ended up being awesome, she had gone through ivf herself and said not to worry about it at all, that many women fall pregnant through worse circumstances. we just needed to get my anxiety down and to sleep. so she gave me a sleeping tablet and also checked my nose and thought it may be infected so on antibiotics now too. oh thank God i finally slept!!! so sat night i had a tablet and that helped, then last night i just slept naturally. i have never felt so grateful to feel absolutely average this morning!! just to have slept is like the best gift in the world!!:D

phew...my nose is still sore and full of gunk but at least i can blow it a bit (probably more than i should but whatever!) and cleared some. and sleep, glorious sleep!

so onto more important news....had scan this morn and i have 9 follies!!!:cheerleader2::cheerleader1: most are about 14mm and 2 are 10mm so FS is going to up my dose of puregon to 200 for next 2 days as she doesn't think we can hold out the eggies until monday for EPU. she wants to bring it forward to friday so they just need a little push along to hopefully get the 10mm little ones to catch up. i am so excited and so relieved:highfive:

Pretty - your numbers sound awesome!! with numbers like those i reckon you could have twinnies!:hyper:Hope you get some good poops this week;):D
Lesley - love your new avatar!! you really have popped out, i guess there's no escaping feeling pregnant now:highfive:.
But damn - i'd be p**sed about the wedding issue too!!!

HIIC - sending love your way honey:hugs:

Aurora - it must be so very hard for you and i hope being an aunt starts to fulfil you more than the pain of not having your own yet. i can't imagine it as i don't have any siblings. my mum had me when she was 21 and her sister had to watch me grow after trying for 9 years for kids (before and after i was born) and she is older than my mum. she had still born twins and many miscarraiges all the while my mum had me. today she has 2 beautiful kids.

i heard someone say this somewhere and it was so nice, it was around the point in time i lost most of negative feelings about seeing babies everywhere, so it may have helped me subconsciously. they said to believe in abundance, that the more babies we come into contact with instead of thinking there is less for us think of it as our babies are getting closer and closer to us. our time is coming and the more babies i see i just let myself feel the joy again. i always loved babies and my infertility journey robbed me of that for awhile. so now i let myself get teary over what's on telly, i goo-goo gaa-gaa talk to babies in the supermarket again. i just love it and every baby i see it just fills me with joy at the wonder of it all....sure i still have my down days, especially when AF arrives. but i no longer feel that way to others with babies, i just so look forward to my own and feel so in awe of how blessed the mums out there already are with the bubs they have. i'm so excited when it will be me to have that soft little baby to cradle and love!! i think i've said to HIIC before, i believe God is already developing a mother's heart in us - and that heart is able to be joyful for others blessings and also feel the pain for our own sufferings. i just try not to let the 2 intermingle too much anymore, it really takes away from me the joy of a baby really looking into my eyes in the supermarket line and giving the most gorgeous gummy smile - oh the most precious look in the world!!!

ah, sorry for rant...you're got me feeling all wonderful and full of hope. it's a personal journey we are all on and i just know aurora that you're going to find those good feelings again :goodvibes::babydust1:

prettydino

09-05-2011, 18:53

Oooo.

Lissy, your sleepless nights sound like hell. I remember what sleep deprivation is like when I was doing night on calls. I was so close to driving off roads then. But yours sound much worse. So glad your GP is understanding and you are emerging from the worst of it. Your follies sound fab! Congratulations and hope things go as planned for Friday.

Lesley, I would be frustrated too. Actually I got married in the registry office and so did my sister. It's actually very nice and most importantly, it was well within our budget, as we were only poor students then! Hope things get sorted out the way you want. Perhaps your wedding dress could be in the style of empire line (think Jane Austen)? That would conceal a multitude of sins and bring some old world elegance into the picture. Or go the corsets!

Afm, still battling discomfort in my digestion. It went away this afternoon, it is now evening and I can feel it coming back again. I am a bit cross now because I've just had a strongly worded email from my mother admonishing me for going to the gym and "do you want this baby or not". All I'm doing there is a walk on the treadmill for 20 minutes and maybe 15 minutes in the recliner bike for 15 minutes. Sometimes 15 minutes on the cross trainer at the lowest level. I often don't even break into a sweat! Just trying to maintain some fitness in preparation for carrying more weight. What does she expect me to do, lie in bed all day??? So I'm not quite pleased at the moment. I'm not stupid and am quite capable of reading up on dos and don'ts for myself. Even checked with my GP already.

Stay well, you girls.

Schnauzer

09-05-2011, 20:06

Hi All,

I haven't posted in about 4 weeks, I was a bit of a mess, I didn't cope well with the TWW, and the week AF came, the Monday my husband had a scan and has a new Tumour in his lung, Tuesday AF arrived, and then Wednesday went back to the hospital for my husband to start a new treatment. It was all just a bit too much for me.

Prettydino - Just wanted to say a HUGE Congratulations!!! It's so wonderful to see another BFP here, I wish you a healthy pregnancy. Try your best to ignore your mother when it comes to exercise, doctors always stress how important it is to not gain too much weight and to keep fit for the health of yourself and your baby. I'm sure i you were overdoing it you would feel it.

Lissyloulou - That sounds horrible, I'm glad you're starting to get some sleep now and that you're on the mend. Great news with those eggies also.

Lesley76 - Your bump is adorable. I am so sorry you are having trouble with the inlaws and that it will affect your wedding, I hope you, the inlaws and your DF can come to an agreement or compromise.

My sister in law had her baby boy on Easter Saturday, I've seen him twice and had a cuddle, he's very sweet. I thought it would be harder for me but I am just so happy for them, both in their late 30's and had to go down the IVF route after trying for a couple of years.

I have just had my IUI today, so here starts the TWW, we had the same sperm issues with the frozen sperm again this time, so we ended up having to use 18 straws to get 10 million with decent motility. We only have another 32 left and I need to work out what to do next time.

I have an appointment on July 16 to move on to IVF, they said we would have to do ICSI where they put the individual sperm into each egg, they said they would only need to use 1 or 2 straws per cycle for this. I am pretty sure we could only afford to do 2 full cycles, not including the frozen if we have frozen embryos left over, so I guess 14 straws would still be plenty, and I guess give me some left over if we can manage to afford more down the track.

This is my 4th IUI and I'm finding it harder to be positive this time, but I still have some hope.

Who else is doing a cycle this month? Is anyone else in their TWW?

He is in control

10-05-2011, 07:56

Uhm girls!

Aurora...:hugs:I know how you feel. Please hold on, yours is on the way. Plenty words won't do the trick right now but I guess you can see the positive side to things and be grateful for your sister. Hopefully before this year runs out, you will become an expectant mother too.

Lissy...:hugs:I can only imagine the torture you've been through. Sorry hun! You've had a really great response to your FSH and that's a plus, moreover, where has time flown? Ha Ha...you are already talking about EPU when it only looks like you started this whole show yesterday. I wish you God's favour dear. I pray you wouldn't have to go through this twice.

Schnauzer...:hugs:You are a strong woman and I admire your strength. Right from the time you came on board this thread I saw a strong woman who could withstand the tough things this life throws at us. Remain strong for your DH hun! I wish I could do more IUIs too as I know your chances of success increase per cycle. I pray this 4th one works fine and if it doesn't, we might be cycle buddies come July as I will be cycling around that time too.

Our Grads!!!

Lesley...Bump!!! It looks really awesome, plus I found it inspiring too. Pregnancy suits you ooo. And if I will say, you really haven't added so much weight (like I know what you looked like before getting pregnant). All the same, the picture depicts a healthy pregnant woman. When is EDD? Boy or girl or not checking?
What's the issue with the in-laws, as far as I am concerned, the best thing is for them to postpone their trip to a later date in order to kill 2 birds with one stone. They should understand that their grandchild will always be there so no urgency really...I hope you guys come to an agreement or compromise that leaves everyone happy eventually...most especially you the bride as you are the primary object/subject of the wedding anyway.

Pretty...:hugs:So sorry about the constipation. That makes 2 of you. Sorry dear. It's worth it...isn't it? Just enjoy this period, you probably have just about 7 more months to go:celebrate:. You shouldn't have to tell your mum in the first instance that you still go to the gym (I wouldn't - but I understand if you do and I totally respect your views), I'm 100% sure my mum would respond in the same manner if told that I do exercises, mothers and precautions! It's just that they overdo it sometimes. Please keep on doing what you are doing, it's good and your description of what you do at the gym is only minimal, so there's nothing to worry about. You definitely NEED the bub not even "want" and it will be yours to love and to cuddle very soon.

ME...As you you would already know...NO NEWS! I just signed up with a gym and I'm working out. I really would love to see myself lose 5kgs before I start my IVF journey. I walk into the gym with the goal at the back of my mind. I must achieve this goal of mine. I also hope to start chinese acupuncture and herbs about 1 month before I start my cycle. I'm holding off on starting that until I have a definite date for my IVF procedure.

That's all! Chat soon girls.

prettydino

10-05-2011, 13:37

Hi people!:wave:

Schnauzer, you are a very courageous woman and I am full of admiration for you. So sorry to hear that your DH is unwell again. Good luck on your 2WW and I hope things turn out alright for you and you get what you wish for and so much deserve.

HIIC, good on you re:gym! Haha, I only mentioned gym to my mum because I usually write little emails on this and that to her every few days (I haven't seen her in a while - she's overseas) and did not expect her reaction at all. After much reassurance, she's written again acknowledging that she might have overreacted and just for me to be careful. My sister also wrote to reaffirm that exercise in moderation is good and I'll be fine. Good back-up from that quarter! She was walking about 2km a day almost until the day of her delivery! Lucky thing also did not experience any morning sickness AT ALL. I want that!!!:rolleyes:

I've stocked up on vit B6 tabs and a jar of metamucil to try and reduce this queasiness. It's worse at night, especially around bedtime and is a "lump"-like sensation in my throat and stomach, making me wanna gag. Trying to modify my food intake so that it's small and frequent nibblings throughout the day. I weighed myself and yikes, I've lost a kg already.

Lesley, my sister swears by Clarins Anti-Stretch mark cream. She said she started rubbing this on her tummy and thighs around the 3-4 month mark and now after birth, she has no stretch marks and no particularly significant flabbiness around her tummy. Perhaps you could try that?? One of my girlfriends in Asia swore by vit E oil and (tomato juice?!), which she religiously rubbed on every day during her pregnancy - she has 4 kids! And minimal in the way of stretch marks too - she's actually older than us - she's 37!

Will see how it goes.

Chat soon.

lissyloulou

10-05-2011, 16:08

hey girls,

HIIC - yes unbelievable how quickly things are moving, i always did ovulate/produce follies early...my EPU will likely be on Day 11! Crazy, but good crazy for me I guess...good on you for getting stuck into the gym. You are doing yourself such a favour for what is to come - a big preggo belly!! I've never looked so forward to being fat:D...let's not call it fat, but healthy!

Aurora - sorry if i sounded preachy, HIIC is right, sometimes words just don't cut it and we need to feel sad and just have time to figure it out for ourselves. sometimes i get carried away with writing, but believe me i have many times where i feel the pain too. I hope you're doing a bit better:hugs:

Schnauzer - what can i say??!! You are an amazing woman to be enduring all of this. I wish you and DH the quickest BFP and your DH to pull through this and recover well. I reckon the ICSI/ivf is your best bet. My FS said she wished she didn't even have to bother sometimes with IUI (but it worked for lesley!) so I pray this one works for you! But I just want you to know that all is not lost if it doesn't work this time. I had to accept that IUI didn't work for me after 3 attempts and FS is so much more hopeful with IVF. The chances just go up so much as they have so much more control over how things progress. And FS said she can't really tell what is going wrong until they get right into the ivf cycle and observe the eggs/spermies trying to get it on;) She said we could have perfect eggs/sperm and yet they keep dying each time at 3 days. we just won't know until they go into the lab. then if they can identify where things aren't working they can work on sorting it out and helping it along. they have all sorts of amazing inventions these days like 'egg glue' or something to help them stick together and up inside of us (sorry for my lack of medical jargon). Anyway, I just want you to know that you are not alone on this difficult journey. I pray good things for your family:hugs:

Pretty - ah the joys of constipation and indigestion:laughing::D. Moving around at the gym will help that too. I've also heard that Bio-oil from the pharmacy can help for stretch marks. I've used aloe gel & bio-oil before for scarring and it's helped greatly. I reckon I'll be starting with that stuff early on, prevention better than cure! But so be it if our bodies get wrecked, it will be worth it hey:yes:

Oh and hey lesley/or should i call you Denise? Hope you're feeling fab and enjoying that bump:D I agree with HIIC - the wedding day is definately about the bride!!lol...so maybe hold out for a bit and when hubby sees this awesome creation that YOUR body has brought into the world he might just want to give you the wedding you want!! and if parents want to be there then they can fly back again...

AFM - nose is sore and it gives headaches too but sleeping good so on the mend. Now the nose thing is passing I'm becoming way more aware of the ivf drugs. Whoa - my face feels like it's on fire from after lunch time til just before dinner - major flushes, but i'll live. Aside from that going pretty well. Except the 2nd injection - orulagtion(sp?) - the needle seems much thicker and you really have to push it in hard and then when pulling out it is like extracting a tooth:eek:. It pulls all the skin with it. But again, we all survive this stuff. I am amazed at how used to it I am - drawing blood for me and i almost faint every time (had a bad case of shigella/dengue fever when in india a few years ago and when i got home they had to send a nurse to take blood at my house as they thought i had malaria - anyway when she tried to get blood i was so weak from vomiting etc that i literally fell on the floor, didn't make it to the bathroom in time and TMI - started vomiting and diahhrea in my pants:eek::laughing:...)..oh those were the days. can't believe some of the things our hubbys see us go through and still manage to see us as attractive women:laughing:. anyway, since then giving blood has been hard as i get flashbacks and feel faint. but for some reason shooting stuff into me (like not in a vein) doesn't bother me anymore. thank god cause i have to do it twice a day!

wow, can anyone tell my boss is overseas:laughing:...should be working but much more fun to write to you gals

another thing i've decided for now is to pull back a bit with social/other responsibilities instead of trying to be a hero all the time. i'm on a committee putting on a convention in a couple months and have just resigned one portfolio (i had 2). and from then i have said i may not be available. it feels good. i need to focus on family & health. also i have a younger cousin in town this weekend Fri/Sat. i have EPU on Fri and then i assume will want peace and quiet sat with my mum flying down this thurs to be with me. i imagine it may be a little physically uncomfortable, but mostly the emotional thing too. i heard someone describe it on another thread as being emptied out with a potato grater:eek: i guess there will be that sense that all my eggs have been removed like something is missing. anyway this cousin wanted me to meet her new boyfriend this weekend, and i don't want to tell her about ivf, so i've just said i'm going in for endo op (not much of a stretch) on fri and will possibly need recovery time on sat. i was going to try to go to dinner on sat, but you know what i really can't see myself wanting to be a social butterfly this weekend so think i will just let mum look after me at home and say i'll catch her next time. and the world will keep turning!! sometimes we just need to look after ourselves

seeya ladies, sorry for the novel:D

lesley76

11-05-2011, 11:31

Hi Girls,

HIIC, yay for joining the gym. I love going to the gym, you feel soo good. And you need to be fit to carry your big preggo belly around:yes:. Acupuncture is a beautiful thing. I had it when I hurt my back last year at work. It helped me a lot. You should definitely do it.

Schnauzer you poor thing. You really have to deal with a lot at the moment :hugs:. I hope DH has a speedy recovery. It's amazing what can be done these days. My mum has fought breast cancer and is now in remission. I know how scary it is to go through this horrible time. :hugs::hugs::hugs: Lets hope that the iui works for you and that you don't even need to worry about ivf/icsi. It sounds like you are due for some luck.

Pretty, like you I think it is so important to keep fit and healthy during pregnancy. I am rapidly approaching 6 months and I still do my Zumba dvd's at least 2-3 times a week. I take lots of long power walks along the beach and I also do yoga. I never overdo it though. But your body will let you know of it's limits. I feel great!! I also got my "morning sickness" at night. Hang in there...it doesn't last forever. Thanks for the info re stretch marks. I have been using bio oil since the beginning of my pregnancy and it seems to be keeping them at bay so far. Does your sister use the tomato juice topically? Interesting.

Lissy, feel free to call me whatever you are comfortable with. I don't mind. As for the fainting...well talk to me ....I am an expert lol. I always faint And it has gotten worse since I have become pg as my blood pressure has dropped. When I was having a million blood tests a week, I was always paranoid about fainting but I only ever fainted once and that was at the beginning of our treatment and we had our screening bloods and they had to take 8 viles of blood...I totally fainted. Make sure that you eat before them...I found that this helped me heaps. I'm glad you are feeling better. And how exciting for your epu!!!!
I have heard for LOTS of women that they don't hurt at all. Everyones pain threshold is different.

AFM, well I had my 20 week anatomy scan yesterday. Bub is growing very well and there doesn't seem to be any problems at all. We didn't find out the sex...it is very tempting though :yes:. I wish I could figure out how to upload photos as there is a couple of goodies. I will try.
DF and I also started our Hypnobirthing classes last night. Wow...I feel so much better about birth already. They basic principal is that you use your mind to keep your body relaxed during labour as stress and fear release hormones that counter-act what your body is trying to do. She explained that the pain comes from your body trying to fight the process and that labour shouldn't really be that painfull. We have another 4 classes with her and she also offers a doula service..but she isn't available for my birth :no:. She said most women who do a hypnobirthing course have drug free natural births :yes:. I am really excited about it. Of course it's not for everyone but I think I will really benefit from it.
We are getting new carpets laid so I have to go clear out all of the bedrooms :(.

Have a great day.

lesley76

12-05-2011, 00:49

Hi girls,

Just a quick one. My computer has just shat itself. It is going to be a couple of weeks in repair so I wont be on for a while.

Take care
:babydust1::babydust1:

prettydino

12-05-2011, 16:56

lissy,

good luck for your egg retrieval! It's Friday or Monday, isn't it?

Lesley, chat again when ur computer returns.

lissyloulou

13-05-2011, 10:50

EPU done...yay!! 10 eggs double yay!!! Does anyone know what PUPO means? Read it on other thread...

He is in control

13-05-2011, 17:43

:cheerleader1:Tripple yay dear! Awesome...your FS recruited 10 potential embies...whao! That is great news dear. When are you knowing the fertlization outcome? Can't wait dear! When is ET? I'm so happpy for you. PUPO...I've got no idea, I've also seen it on other threads.

angelanathan

13-05-2011, 18:12

Pupo means pregnant until proven otherwise

lissyloulou

13-05-2011, 18:12

Hey HIIC!! Great to see you!
Find out how many fertilized tomorrow by lunch time I hope:)
5 day blast ET on Wednesday all things going well...
FS said we had 9 follies on Monday scan, then 8 on wed, so was so happy when we got 10 today!! A couple must have caught up to speed!!
So how are YOU? I can't wait til you get on this road again, it's almost June! When you actually start ivf the sickness etc sure did keep my mind off things, the nose op helped too...maybe you could bop yourself in the nose and have an op too:) lol
Thinking of you:)
I was so nervous last few days, really crook on the ivf drugs too I actually felt the most negative about things that I've felt in ages. Like giving up really. But y'm happy to report that after EPU I feel great again, hopeful, I think the drugs are slowly working out of system and therefore I'm coming back to feeling like self again.
Love to all you beautiful ladies xox

lissyloulou

13-05-2011, 18:14

Thanks Angela!! PUPO makes sense now:)
How are you doing?

angelanathan

13-05-2011, 19:42

Lissyloulou,

Pretty good I guess this whole ttc is very hard isn't it. I tested today and bfn not sure how many days I am possible 10 dpo. When af comes I can start injectables . Got no symptoms so just waiting for af I guess.

how are u all?

angelanathan

14-05-2011, 18:11

Hey guys,
Af arrived for me today so will call fs on Monday for appt on day 6 to start injectables for iui. Can't wait to begin the journey .

What is everyone else upto on their cycle

lissyloulou

14-05-2011, 22:40

Quick check in gals...got fert results this morn...so out of 10 eggs collected 8 were mature ( so FS was right on wed about there being 8 big enough, I guess they just get them all incase)...out of 8 mature we got 5 fertilized, so 5 little embies to cheer on!

So glad I've had bubhub to educate me about this stuff or I reckon I'd be disappointed. Have read about so many women having more or less than that nothing really surprises me...so happy days and gotta keep self occupied until our 3 day report on Monday:)

Yay for AF showing up Angela, now you can get the party started!!

lissyloulou

14-05-2011, 22:44

Hey Angela I wonder why you're starting injections on day 6? I always started on day 2 or 3 even with iui's...I guess your FS has a reason

angelanathan

15-05-2011, 08:38

Lissy, not sure it's always been day 6 or 7 and I'm on them for about 12 days. How long are u on them for ?I'm with qfg too

lissyloulou

15-05-2011, 09:12

Perhaps it's to do with length of cycle? I have a short cycle and ovulate super early. Mine start on day 2 or 3 and last for about 9 days. Even with ivf this time I started on day 2, went for 8 days and triggered that night then EPU on day 11. Perhaps it's me that's unusual?! Lol...last month iui was start injects on day 2, trigger on day 9 and iui on day 10. My follies are just always big enough generally on the 1st iui scan. With ivf this time FS upped my dose on last couple days as she couldn't push me out to the Monday as they would be too big so had to get them big enough for Friday.
I'm with CFC in Brisbane.

angelanathan

15-05-2011, 14:48

Maybe it is, I don't take clomid either . How many iuis have u had and any luck

He is in control

15-05-2011, 16:02

Hi all:highfive:

Angelanathan...Thanks for sharing your knowledge. PUPO sure makes sense to me now. And sorry AF came, it's the start of whole new cycle and here's to a fruitful and fertile cycle with BFP to show for it. Cheers! All clinics have different practices and like Lissy, I'm also with CFC and I took the injections from day 2 until FS says to stop. Nothing to worry about, eg, I know CFC does 5 day transfer but there are heaps of other girls on bubhub who had 3days transfer depending on the clinic's policy, :fingerscrossed: this cycle is yours.

Lissy...Uhm uhm! Great fert. rate you've got! Whao! 5 little embies already. I'm praying they all do the right thing and progress really well. How many are you putting back? 2 or 1 ??? Woohoo! Sincerely the nose op really made things fast for you, plus the fact that you are blessed with really short cycles. June?...Oh I wish. Looks like I will kick off in July.

Pretty...How are you getting on? I know for sure that you're fine.

Lesley...On sabbatical! Enjoy your time off and catch up asap. Miss you hun!

Schnauzer...How are you and what stage are you at? All will be well.

AFM...Everyday seems like eternity. It feels like I've been waiting 15 years to start IVF but I guess the time is drawing nearer and I can't wait.

Have fun everyone.

lissyloulou

15-05-2011, 17:55

Angela, I'm not on clomid either. I did 3 iui's no luck...so straight onto ivf as have been TTC for 2 years. Gotta update my signature with all the info!
Hey HIIC, nice to see you. Yes we have 5 at this stage which is great, no idea what the rates of drop off are like from day 1 to 5 but will have another update tomorrow morn. Will be so happy to just have one to put back in and if we get any frozen will be a bonus:)
Xo

prettydino

15-05-2011, 19:33

Hi girls,

I had my first spew last night. :eek: Luckily it was 1 am and there was nothing in my stomach. It felt like there was this huge gas bubble in my stomach that I couldn't get out and when it felt like exploding I had to fling myself out of bed and into the bathroom. Yuck. Very unpleasant.

Feeling very lethargic these days. Not exactly tired, but not feeling like I want to do much, which is very unusual for someone like me, who has a million hobbies! Spending my days curled up on my armchair with a novel or two. This cold weather makes me mighty sluggish too.

Lissy, hooray on your embies. Let's hope they do VERY VERY well and you have enough left to freeze.

HIIC, hello and looking forward to the time when you get started on your journey. :smiliedance::smiliedance: for you!

Angel, I had 3 iuis and it worked on the very last one, which was so ironic, because it was meant to be an ivf cycle! I didn't respond adequately to Gonal-F (only had 2 follies) and so it was converted at the last minute to an iui. So I was pretty darned pleased and surprised. I had my meds started on Day 2 as well, but I am also with CFC Sunnybank branch.

:babydust1: to all.