At a loss.. Continual trying has led to this..

[RoarsomeMum]

"Mummy, Daddy, I love you and I know YOU want me to use the toilet but I am not going to.. EVER. Never, ever, EVER. I like nappies and I will use them forever and that is just that. I no need lollies I no need love I no need anything but to be left ALONE and to not use the toilet.. EVER."

I really don't know what to say to that. - We are happy to pull back and not train but I am wondering if she will ever freaking decide she is ready :(:(:crying:

I am also quietly proud that even if she is not ready to use the loo she is ready to express why.. As frustrating as her "why's" are, I am glad to have them..

But, still feel a bit lost.. This can't go on forever right??:fingerscrossed:

Did others have obstinate (for want of a better word) trainers who eventually got there?

I need hope!!!!!!!!

[biscotti]

She certainly has a way with words :yelclap: :laughing:

Look, we have daughters the same age you and I (Nov 07 right?) and we too are nowhere near being toilet trained and she's the oldest of my four to still be in nappies. I'm leaving it for a while to take the pressure off and we'll revisit the whole toilet thing sometime later.

:hugs: and one for Miss Roar too :hugs: I like a woman who knows her own mind ;)

[RoarsomeMum]

Thank you so much for the :hugs:'s we both needed them!

I am worried about holding off and never EVER going to push it, so just feel all Yuck and lost.. I know she is physically ready but have to acknowledge (and respect) her emotional readiness is just not there.

If only our stupid kindy's would take her in nappies.. :( She is desperate for the social interaction but has to hold off until she is trained.. - if not for that aspect, I don't think I would be as worried..

Nov 07 kids! did you snob us all off at birth or name change?! :p

[quitecontrary]

Oh dear. My dd was a similar age when we tt-ed her, did the cold turkey 3 Day Potty Training regime and just cleared the nappies away when we started, and never put her in another one - we night-trained at the same time. I had haphazardly tried to tt her, and I needed the program to follow. We had to get her trained before preschool started, and we had to do it before Christmas as we were going OS. She fell for all the Big Girl talk - undies, preschool etc!

[Herchy]

I've only JUST trained my July 07 boy this weekend... we're on day 3 right now.
It's something I never wanted to push and something I thought would take forever as my boy is SUPER stubborn. It's gone alot better than anything I could have hoped for.

Maybe leave her a few months and try again? I know it's a bit frustrating... I was worried about our kinder not taking DS next year for 3 year old kinder because he wasn't toilet trained, but apparently they don't mind too much out here.

I thought training a 3 year old would be hard, but it's been super easy. DS was one of those kids who just wanted his nappies all the time. TT has gone so well for us. Hopefully in the next few months your little one will decide she's ready (I'd mentioned to DS that we were going to get him to start using the big boy toilet for about a week before I had planned to start, and he decided 2 days early that he wanted to start then and there).

Sorry to hear it's not going well, but what a smart, articulate little girl you have!
Good luck!

[gizmoduckus]

Well I can beat all of you! My 4 year old has only been toilet-trained for 2 weeks now. He just was not interested beforehand, no matter what we tried. It was starting to get extremely stressful because every other kid his age seemed to have been doing it for years now.

Unfortunately I just think that children will not do it before they are ready so sometimes it is better to just step back, relax and take it as it comes.

[loving6]

:hugs::hugs::hugs: I feel your pain. My Ds keeps telling me he is still a baby. He has a really bad fear of the hand dryers in public toilets. I know he has the ability to train but he just not ready yet. I even brought a heap of match box cars as rewards. They don't even tempt to try. He happy being the baby.

[smileygirl]

i know TT is important...but omg i had to laugh and laugh at her response...what a well spoken lil girl!!!

If she is not keen yet, don't worry...she will be. I would make a point of walking through the big girl undie section over and over until she sees some she really wants.

when is she due for kinder? Feb?

[RoarsomeMum]

She could get into feb 3yr intake if she is trained.

I feel ultra responsible for the fact her social needs are not being met and always hoped that seeings as she was so bright she would be trained early and be able to get into that intake. ( I was sooooooooo wrong..)

I just feel like I am missing the mark, failing her in some way..

[Herchy]

Honestly, I was talking to someone from our kinder the other day asking if it was ok that DS wasn't toilet trained (this was Monday) and today is one week later and we're practically done. Anything can happen in between now and then :)

In no way are you failing your little one. You are doing what you think is right for her. You are trying to cater to her needs and not force anything which I think is wonderful. :)

[Myztik]

My 4yr old only got out of the nappies about 3mnths before he turned 4 and we still have issues getting him to poo on the toilet rather than in his jocks.

[RoarsomeMum]

********UPDATE*********

After her chat I gave her lots of hugs and reminded her how proud her Dad and I were that she told us how she felt.. We said she could decide when she was ready and if she REALLY wanted to be in nappies forever we would support her. - She ummed and arred and decided to stay in jocks, but still wet herself :rolleyes: Sheesh Roar! (We decided to teach her to clean up her messes! - support goes both ways)

BUT!!

In the last 3 days she has just suddenly got it!! :eek::smiliedance::yelclap: She has been dry and clean ALL DAY Friday (with wee's and poo's on potty, Poo's TOTALLY unassisted or prompted!) and yesterday dry all day again, and, wait for it, DRY LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!!:highfive:
GO ROAR!!!!

Don't give up everyone!!!!!!!! It really does happen! (at its own pace) A big WELL DONE to all training today!

[KatiesMum]

:smiliedance:

thats awesome.

My DD toilet trained really late too ... it was sooooo hard. And then one day, she just got it.

Within a week we were night trained as well.

(she does still have the odd accident .... but they truly are accidents, not just obstinance) ;)

[Mmm Dessert]

Well done!!!!!!!!!! Awesome news!!!!!

[MrsTwith3]

Well done Roar and well done to you to Mummy for letting her make that choice. Im just glad for you that it was sooner rather than later. Just keep reminding yourself that you are supporting and nuturing Roar in all aspects of her life and that you are doing an amazing job of it.

[~ElectricPink~]

My boy is 4 in December, and he's still nowhere near toilet trained! So i know what you're going through. I've been struggling to try and get him toilet trained for the past year.

On the upside- your daughter certainly is articulate! :)