STILL cc'ing........................

[Priscilla]

Hi there guys......

Yep, am STILL cc'ing Cameron. Am STILL feeling **** for doing this. It's been a week and a half already he still has to have a cry before sleeping. He's slept through twice now... not on consecutive nights though. Is this normal?

I've run into a couple of issues. Is anyone able to answer this questions?

1. Cameron has eczema and I think the crying is causing it to flare up as he gets so hot and sweaty. Any suggestions as to how to manage this? Can I use talcum powder before I put him in his cot? But then won't this dry up his skin, making the eczema worse?

2. I THINK he might be teething. He's got the red cheeks and he's started to tense his jaw (he did this when he got his first two teeth). But other than that, it's not causing him too much grief. Should I continue with the CC?

3. If I give the CC a break, do I just go back to what I was doing previously to put him to sleep? And if I do this, does this mean that when I restart the CC, he'll be alot more persistent thinking that I WILL come in and pick him up since I would have been rocking him to sleep during the CC break?

4. Is it normal for him to whimper for over half an hour? I know I asked a question similar to this in one of my earlier threads, but lately he's been doing it alot - don't know if it's a case of him trying to fight the sleep or it's last ditch attempts to get my attention.

5. Sometimes he'll drop off within the minute or two. Sometimes (as I said) he'll whimper for over half an hour. There seems to be NO pattern whatsoever. So I can't work out if he's just not tired or if it's something else. Has this happened to anyone else?

6. His voice now gets husky from all the crying. He doesn't have a sore throat (i'm assuming if he does, he'd be sooking and irritable all day?) but he will wake with the scratchy voice. Am I leaving him to cry for too long? Will this do any damage to him?

I actually do have other questions, but have now forgotten them. D'OH!!! Will ask when I think of them. Thanks in advance again!!

[cmd'smum]

Priscilla, :hugs: I know how tough CC can be. I did it with my DD and to be honest, it took me a good 2 months......well her....to finally stop crying and sleep on her own. However.....she still has a little winge/cry when I put her down, but it lasts for 30 seconds and a few minutes later she is :sleeping: !! I've learnt that its because she is SOOOO strong willed and just wants me putting there/staying with her till she nods off :shame:

Yes, it takes time and all bubs are different......their temperments (sp?) and all! I know the hardest part is going in and out of the room and calming them down.....but it will pay off!! Hang in there! Am sure your bub is fine, he just doesn't understand why He has to put himself to sleep and not you! :D

Good luck!!

[cmd'smum]

oops I just realised I didn't answer your q's directly :o

(1) not sure about this one, sorry

(2) yes continue with CC

(3) You need to stick to CC...you can have a break here and there...for eg, if you are absolutely stuffed and you see that he is just NOT going to sleep on his own, yes, put him to sleep. I still do that with DD sometimes and she is 17 months old! Also, try if it all gets too much try taking him out of his cot and hold him with his back facing you, do a few laps around the house and try CC again...this may help him have a break.

(4) I think it's both he's trying to get!! Inotice that if I sent in a few times and calmed my daughter down, she would go to sleep quicker rather than letting her cry for more than a few minutes..... maybe he orks himself up sooo much thats why he wimpers...babies do this. They will cry, which leads to more crying, etc. They get P*&&^D...but he will learn :yes:

(5) Again , all bubs are diff and they will do diff things...there are no hard and fast rules as to how long, how much vrying, wimpering, etc it will take....its still early days for you and a learning experience!

(6) Again, try going in and calming him down more than usual.....and as time goes by, go in less and less!

At the end of the day, if you pick him up when hes crying...and he stops...hes not hungry, teething, has a wet nappy, etc, he just wants to be held.....;)

good luck!!!

[JE's Mum]

I can't answer any of your questions on control crying but saw your eczema question and thought I could help with that one. The most important thing in dealing with eczema is keeping the skin cool and moist. Don't use talc powder because as you say, it dries out the skin.

Best way to manage it is to moisturise morning and night (and more often if necessary) with sorbelene or even better, Dermeze (that can be bought from the chemist). Also minimise the layers of clothing your baby is wearing so they don't get too hot. If it persists, chat to your GP.

I find my DS eczema is worse in winter because of the dry air from having the heating on. Not much we can do about that because obviously we need to heat the house! We use Dermeze morning and night and that seems to keep it at bay apart from the odd flare that we have a presecription cream for. I'm sorry to say, all the crying probably will make it a worse because he will get hot and sweaty and then he will probably get upset from the skin irritation. A catch 22 I know. Anyway, try to keep the moisturising up. All the best.

[JATS]

Some bubs don't respond well to CCing, others do.

I'm not a CCer, it just dosen't agree with me or my son.

Not saying give up yet, but if things don't improve, don't be too upset by it, there's more than one 'right way' to rise a child, and so many ways out there you will find the one perfect for both of you. Don't beat yourself up if the first thing you try isn't the one for you.

GL

[reAllytee]

Some bubs don't respond well to CCing, others do.

I'm not a CCer, it just dosen't agree with me or my son.

Not saying give up yet, but if things don't improve, don't be too upset by it, there's more than one 'right way' to rise a child, and so many ways out there you will find the one perfect for both of you. Don't beat yourself up if the first thing you try isn't the one for you.

GL

Totally agree :yes:

If its not working its not working just try something else when your ready.
If i did cc with Boof he would scream for hours & i wouldnt cope nor would he so my solution was to find something else that worked for us.
Good luck :hugs:

[mummy2sophie]

You're doing amazing for doing this. It's so hard! We're doing it with DD right now too and it's heartbreaking but the only solution for us (and it's getting better and easier all the time).

I'm not sure how old yours is. I went to Tresillian (Baby sleep professionals in NSW) and learned that under 6 months they recommend that I leave her to cry for 3 minutes and then go in. After 5 more minutes of crying then go in again and then every 5 minutes then on until her crying slows down. They said feel free to pick her up whenever we felt the need to.

I find going in every 5 minutes is an excellent solution for us because she doesn't get hysterical like she would if we left it longer.

When she's a bit older I would leave her for slightly longer periods between going in.

Answer to 3. Tresillian said to keep up with the program as it just makes it harder and confuses the baby if you stop the CC and then start it up again. UNLESS baby is sick.

Answer to 4: Tresillian said if baby is grizzling for more than 15minutes then go in and resettle. (this has been useful for me because often Sophie is on her tummy and can't sleep that way and needs me to roll her back over)

But most importantly watch for tired signs and act immediately! I find this is the best way to prevent her from even starting to cry.

GOOD LUCK Hopefully your little one will respond soon. But I agree with the others in that CC is not for everyone and don't do it if you don't fully agree with the principles or if your heart isn't in it.

[rockabye]

I just want to offer a little support to those cc-ing. You're doing great, don't be down on yourself!!

I did it with my ds and took me about 2 weeks to get him to sleep on his own. However, I did see gradual (spell?) improvements most nights. He responded to ccing really well. After the first 2or 3 nights I wanted to stop but I knew if i kept going it would probably work. My ds is now a perfect sleeper 11 hours at night no waking and 3 hour block during the day, he is 2 in 2 weeks.

However, I do agree that if you don't feel it is working for you, research some other techniques and see how they go.

I rang trisillian (sleep centre) and one lady told me that some kids will cry till they vomit or poo but they will get past it and start sleeping. I don't know if I would let my DS get this far but she said that you should.