wee on loo, poo go nappy? Good idea? Wdyt?

[MrsTiggyWinkle]

dd1 is almost 3 and won't tt. Our problem is she is afraid to poo on the loo. When she has knickers on and feels a wee coming, she tells us and does it on the loo, but if a poo comes she freaks out. ↲<br />
S i was thinking maybe i can teach her to wear knickers, do wees on the loo and tell me when a poo is coming so i can put on a nappy. Has anyone tried this? How did you go about it? Did it work?

[Susan Mac]

My DS took several months after getting his wees sorted out to pooing in the toilet. He just did it in his undies and we had to clean it out. Eventually he worked it out.
I would think swapping to nappies for a poo wouldn't really be helpful, but I'm not sure. I do think that DS would have trained a whole heap quicker if I had just put undies on him, rather than trying to still have him in nappies for some of the time while he was TTing.

[MrsTiggyWinkle]

thanks susan, you make a good point, i might just confuse her :confused: anyone else tried it? She's liking the knickers but says even big girls are scared of poos on the loo... She has it all figured out :laughing:

[crazymuma]

Personally I think you could be setting up for huge dramas getting her to poo in nappies.

I would be trying to work out exactly what scares her - once you figure this out then go from there - hell paint the toilet a different colour if you have to - buy a potty - anything but nappies.

If she will happily sit on the toilet try getting her to blow bubbles - it might keep her amused enough that she doesn't notice at first that she is pooing (blowing opens the bowels)

Pooing in her pants can be bad if its long term as if its left sitting there for awhile it can actually numb the nerves around the anus which causes a worse problem as they can't actually feel the poo coming.

[amandaw]

annamac...that's the way that we went with our DD - she was TT (for wee's) for 6 months (at least) before she would do a pooh on the toilet. No matter how much we tried, cajouled, bribed her, there was no way that she was doing a pooh in the toliet. For us it just meant (most of the time) that she would go first thing in the morning when she was wearing a nappy...but at other times she'd go without poohing for 3 or 4 days if we didn't allow the nappy.

She sorted it out all in her own time (with a lot of persistence in the end just before she was 3 - had to go back to the potty with me sitting behind her rubbing her back and tummy like a birthing partner :laughing:) ...maybe your DD will too

[Hollywood]

Would she prefer to go in a potty? When DS was TT using the 3 day method, he took the full 3 days to get it with poos. He would hold on all day (poo that is, not wee), then finally when he had his evening shower the urge to poo would come and I had his potty on stand-by. I actually scooted the potty under him as he started to poo in the shower, and on the second day of doing that he understood what to do.

I never pushed him into using the toilet, as opposed to the the potty, but over a few weeks he gradually used the big toilet more and more until we were able to store away the potty for good. Do you have one of those step things for the toilet? Having a step for their feet can help.

[MrsTiggyWinkle]

Thanks for your replies everyone. Today was an excellent day. I asked her would she like to wear knickers and wee on the loo, but that if she wanted to do a poo she could ask me to put on a nappy... and she said YES :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedanc e:

She happily did wees on the loo, and after her bath asked for a nappy. And went to her private spot behind the couch, and did her business :smiliedance::yelclap::laughing: MASSIVE step forward for us, no fear, no tears, no cajoling, jellybeans, stickers (or painting the loo lol crazymuma!)

Libby, I'm always jealour when I read stories like yours, you make it sound so easy! DD1 knows exactly what to do, she has a potty, steps, knickers, books, reward charts, you name it etc etc, its just the fear of pooing in the loo that stops her.

Amanda lol at the birthing partner thing, I can so see us doing that! Yep, same here, no way on this earth was she going to poo on that loo.

Crazy and Susan thanks for your suggestions too. You are quite right, this could have gone horribly wrong and might still. As for what scares her, its having a poo coming but no nappy on, simple as that. However she knows what to do, and she is old enough to understand 'if you need to poo, ask me for a nappy', and she is able to control the urge until the nappy is on, and she is perfectly happy to wee on the loo. I think she is ready for this :fingerscrossed:... I *know* I am ready for it lol! I've tried everything I can think of for the last year :cool:

[SpottySocks]

I don't know if this would work, but a friend of mine had similar trouble with her 3 yr old son who would also ask for a nappy to poo and go off & hide by himself to do it.

She started off by saying yes he could have a nappy on but he had to go into the bathroom to do the poo, no more hiding, she explained to him that everyone else poos in the bathroom and so he had to as well . Then after a few days she said he had to sit on the toilet (in his nappy) to poo then after a couple of days she cut a hole in the bottom of the nappy so he still got to wear the nappy but the poo fell out into the toilet. Once he realised it wasn't going to hurt him he stopped using the nappy.

Haven't tried this - we are just starting to TT and haven't quite got this far yet!

Goodluck.

[*Chels*]

I had the same prob with my DS1.Would go wees on potty no prob,but always wanted a nappy for poo.
So I let him do it.When we got low on nappies,I warned him that we were running out and we werent going to buy more.
Then I told him if he pooed on the potty he could get an early bday pressie...so he did it!!
And again the next time...then I was like **** cleaning poo out of a potty....got him on the loo and the rest of history!

[MrsTiggyWinkle]

spottysocks that is a fantastic idea, its all about the baby steps isn;t it? I will definitely be using that tip (have told her and she gets it but still prefers behind the couch lol!)

Chels, we've been telling her that too, that soon she will be too big for nappies. Love the bribery can corruption lol!

So update on how we went (may be it will help someone else having the same problem) We bought some "nappy knickers" (pull ups) and are putting her on the loo every hour for wees. Then she asks for a nappy if she thinks a poo is coming, and I send her off to a private place. Today we had two wee accidents and 4 four FOUR FOUR successful toilet wees :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:

The nappy pants have taken a lot of her fear away, so she is now happy to sit on the loo (she always resisted before). And there is no worry about what we do when we leave the house cos she's in nappy pants all the time.

Thanks for all the ideas you have given me ladies, I have lots of ideas on how to persuade her to get out of nappies *sharpens scissors with gusto* lol!!