View Full Version : How do you feel about people close to you voting the opposite to you?
silverstars
26-08-2010, 12:52
Does it make you question whether their beliefs are too different to yours?
Does it effect your friendship/relationship even in the slightest way?
Even if nothing is said do you still have that feeling that maybe other issues can't be discussed because of the way they have voted?
I know both my dad and my brother voted differently from me..doesnt bother me. I can see why they would vote for who they did. Suits them better and thats fair enough.
A friend of mine voted differently than me but for a stupid reason...it doesnt effect out relationship but does make me shake my head a little.
Im open to discuss anything with anyone...Im a curious little one so always up for a conversation :p
Hollywood
26-08-2010, 12:55
I don't worry about who they vote for. Doesn't affect the relationship at all :no:
I am a Greens voter and DP voted Labor, doesn't bother me. We are happy to discuss it because we have our hatred of NLP in common :laughing:
My Grandparents are huge One Nation & conservative supporters :barf: and there's no way in hell I'd ever discuss politics with them because they just have no idea about anything apart from the fact that they like racism.
Little-Pink-Hen
26-08-2010, 12:58
Nope, my dh and I vote different all the time, I don't mind we just have different opinions and view
nothanksbye
26-08-2010, 13:01
No it doesnt bother me....unless,
they back up their voting choices with racism or selfishness.
then i find it hard.
MothersMilk
26-08-2010, 13:02
Many people i know voted the opposite to me. I respect their right to vote for whoever they think is the best choice.
I might disagree with their political views but i still like them as people - you can't agree with everyone on everything so i don't worry too much about it. (unless their views are really deplorable or their reasons for picking a party are stupid - then it may affect things a bit). I was more p1ssed off with the people i know who drew penises on their ballot rather than those who voted opposite to me. (i voted greens)
I tend to avoid political discussions anyway - it can get too heated and frustrating for me :p
giveitago
26-08-2010, 13:03
DP and I voted differently. Doesn't bother me at all. And it has no affect on our relationship.
silverstars
26-08-2010, 13:05
My Grandparents are huge One Nation & conservative supporters :barf: and there's no way in hell I'd ever discuss politics with them because they just have no idea about anything apart from the fact that they like racism.
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about.
See that would really affect me.
Although, I know the there are many of the older generation that think this way.
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about.
See that would really affect me.
Although, I know the there are many of the older generation that think this way.
I still love them etc, but I just CANNOT listen to their reasoning. Well, mostly because it's not reasoning.
They are, and always have been, simple country people so they get screwed over royally by both of the major parties in terms of healthcare etc but they continue to vote for them because they have a personal vendetta against the Indigenous (why they liked Howard - his refusal to apologise) and they adored Pauline Hanson!!!
Blergh. I'd rather watch paint dry than discuss politics with them.
Sheer Bliss
26-08-2010, 13:11
Nope. People can vote differently to you because different things appeal to them, it doesn't mean that either are right or wrong. Sometimes there are one or 2 things that over-ride how you feel about a party, so you let that help you decide. I DON'T agree with so many of the statements that have been made in generalising what it means about you and what kind of person you are just because you vote a particular way. Economics is a very big thing, and hard to get your head around, even harder when even those who are top of it, can't guarentee how things will pan out if a certain decision is made - it's not a science with a black and white outcome.
My aunty/Uncle and cousins are rather racist - based on their own personal experiences. I don't agree with them, so we don't talk about it, but I am not about to say they are bad people and cut ties with them just because their life experience has led them to a different conclusion to mine.
silverstars
26-08-2010, 13:14
They are, and always have been, simple country people so they get screwed over royally by both of the major parties in terms of healthcare etc but they continue to vote for them because they have a personal vendetta against the Indigenous (why they liked Howard - his refusal to apologise) and they adored Pauline Hanson!!!
Omg! That point of view is just :eek:
but, I do understand you would still love them as they are your grandparents.
I think if my nanna was still alive she would probably have similar views to this. She was from the country and thinking back she did have rather awful labels for the Indigenous also. My mother found it really hard to form a relationship with her because of this reason.
I wouldn't even know how half my friends and family voted- we don't discuss it.
We have more important things to talk about- like for instance, the lovely summery tops that are out at the moment...:laughing:
Kittylou
26-08-2010, 13:18
No it doesnt bother me....unless,
they back up their voting choices with racism or selfishness.
then i find it hard.
Exactly that. DH and I often vote differently but we both understand and accept why and what motivates our vote.
Boobycino
26-08-2010, 13:26
Scummmmbbbaaaaaggggsssss
Nag nothing.
Well if everyone who votes different to me voted the same as me we'd have a government right now ;)
But that's all.
Dp and I votes oppositely.
RedPanda
26-08-2010, 13:26
Not really. Short of really extreme views that encompass racism or sexism (and I mean if these are enshrined in policy not a perceived attribute of a candidate), I think everyone has a democratic right to their own political views. I have been really disappointed and shocked by the number of people on FB who have defriended friends for having a different view. I mean, where do you draw the line? Do people also have to agree on religion, education views, food likes or dislikes, football team preferences etc etc? Or what if someone is slightly to the right or left of your views? How far left or how far right is tolerable before you'd judge them or get rid of them?
silverstars
26-08-2010, 13:39
I wouldn't even know how half my friends and family voted- we don't discuss it.
We have more important things to talk about- like for instance, the lovely summery tops that are out at the moment...:laughing:
Bring on summer :flowerz:
I've just ended a friendship because a 'friend' emailed me asking how I could support a party that wanted to legalize abortion and gay marriage. That homosexuality is wrong, disgusting and un Christian and that women who had abortions should be killed. Yeah we're no longer friends.
I find I'm tolerant of others and try and respect their choices but I won't have someone in my life who's full of such hatred.
Slapmyelbow
26-08-2010, 15:28
I've just ended a friendship because a 'friend' emailed me asking how I could support a party that wanted to legalize abortion and gay marriage. That homosexuality is wrong,disgusting and un Christian and that women who had abortions should be killed. Yeah we're no longer friends.
I find I'm tolerant of others and try and respect their choices but I won't hav someone in my life who's full of such hatred.
Oh my lord! That's intense.
DH and I vote differently. He the greens and me' for labor. But we're united in our dislike of liberal and more so Tony Abbott.
I would never push my ideals on anyone though and enjoy a good debate amongst family and friends.
silverstars
26-08-2010, 16:00
I've just ended a friendship because a 'friend' emailed me asking how I could support a party that wanted to legalize abortion and gay marriage. That homosexuality is wrong, disgusting and un Christian and that women who had abortions should be killed. Yeah we're no longer friends.
I find I'm tolerant of others and try and respect their choices but I won't have someone in my life who's full of such hatred.
Women who had abortions should be killed? just lovely :no:
SassyMummy
26-08-2010, 17:25
Well, obviously, I think our country would be much better off if they all voted the same way I did, or at least closer to my choice rather than right on the other end of things... but I mean, I know I have no say in their vote.
Who people vote for doesn't usually change my opinion of them, though the way they carry on about it all can.
If you want to vote right-wing, then go ahead, I can't stop you... but don't treat me like I'm some uninformed imbocile because I don't share the same views. Don't bully and belittle me because I'm not in love with the Libs/Family First (these were DPs families faves).
When they were all bagging out the Greens and criticizing the fact my vote was going to them, DP mentioned that Family First were anti-abortion, which DPs family is not. I was shocked to hear DPs sister saying something about how abortions aren't even needed if people just kept their legs shut... since she had undergone the procedure herself! So what? She deserved that right back then... but nobody in future does? :rolleyes:
They also annoy me about how their votes are won by what they can get. FIL voted Family First (that horrid Wendy Francis who went on an anti-gay rampage on Twitter!) because they'll "protect his military pension." DP's grandmother voted Liberal because "They'll give me more money, as a pensioner."
I mean, sure, think of yourself, but not AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS. Is FILs military pension worth more than the rights of gay couples and a woman's right to bodily autonomy? Don't forget that Family First are, in a roundabout way, ant birth-choices... because they want the foetus' rights equal to the mothers, meaning a mother actually ends up with less rights in regards to which way she births... etc etc.
See, I don't think so.
I guess this election has, generally, p*ssed me off in regards to the way some people carry on.
I'm pretty sure my ILs know my stance, but I've never told them they are wrong or criticised their choices.
I do hate the fact that I get criticised though, when not one of them researched this election at all... and I did. When they discovered all the work I'd put into making my choice, I got told, "Yeah, you can tell you don't have a job..." :rolleyes:
I've just ended a friendship because a 'friend' emailed me asking how I could support a party that wanted to legalize abortion and gay marriage. That homosexuality is wrong, disgusting and un Christian and that women who had abortions should be killed. Yeah we're no longer friends.
I find I'm tolerant of others and try and respect their choices but I won't have someone in my life who's full of such hatred.
:laughing: Women who have an abortion should be killed...is this coming from a Christian person??? :laughing:
I avoid discussing politics with my friends who vote differently. I was talking politics with a friend the other day and her views surprised me in regards to boat people.
My dad is a Liberal voter...I enjoy talking politics with him. He likes to listen to why I don't vote the same as him and it's always interesting debate when we talk politics!
TripleTime
26-08-2010, 19:14
Couldnt give two hoots to be honest.
:laughing: Women who have an abortion should be killed...is this coming from a Christian person??? :laughing:
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yep! She posted all over my wall on FB too saying the same things. Thankfully my phone sends me instant notifications because i'd hate for others to see it. Although a couple did and sent me lovely PM's. She's a practicing catholic that is a youth co-ordinator - great huh?
Baldie's Mum
26-08-2010, 21:16
It takes all different people to make up the world. I sometimes don't agree with others, but that's okay. Cause If we are both able to be adults and discuss it properly then we may actually learn something! And that only makes the world a better place.
twotrunks
26-08-2010, 21:42
I have to admit, I do infer things about people based on who they vote for... I think you can make general assumptions about the type of people who vote for each party, although there will always be exceptions of course. It always makes me laugh looking at the suburb by suburb breakdown of votes, it fits in so perfectly with "wealthy" vs "poor" areas. Even though the two major parties are quite similar now, the old ways of voting are still clearly in place. And I obviously identify with the working class side of my family more than the upper-class side ;)
Baldie's Mum
26-08-2010, 21:50
Two trunks I Aldo enjoy watching the areas to see how they have swung. I was honestly shocked when our area (macathur) went liberal. We have alot of lower/middle class here..... There are wealthy parts but not sydneys eastern suburbs wealthy....campbelltown wealthy! Lol!
HowCrazyCool
26-08-2010, 21:53
If they try and slam it down my throat yep, if not i couldn't give a hoot.
I do feel in some situations what i know some people believe in will influence the way i talk. I don't really see that as a problem though.
I honestly do not have any close friends who vote opposite to me. We are all green or labor.
I find people who vote conservative generally have different values to me and we don't have much in common.
silverstars
26-08-2010, 22:10
yep! She posted all over my wall on FB too saying the same things. Thankfully my phone sends me instant notifications because i'd hate for others to see it. Although a couple did and sent me lovely PM's. She's a practicing catholic that is a youth co-ordinator - great huh?
My goodness a youth coordinator! That is a dangerous attitude for vulnerable youth.
Gee I wonder who she voted for being an extreme Catholic?
motherev2two
26-08-2010, 22:21
Nope dh and I voted differently(for our local) it really it their choice and they will do what suits them best.
delirium
26-08-2010, 22:25
I would say normally it doesn't bother me, everyone has a right to vote as they see fit. But I had a family member lecture me that labor was useless and that workers would be nowhere without business employing them, making out business owners to be these saints when really it is the workers that make them rich. It really rubbed me the wrong way and now I have decided to put my fingers in my ears and chant *la la la la* whenever they go on with their worker bashing nonsense.
sockstealingpoltergeist
26-08-2010, 22:30
yep! She posted all over my wall on FB too saying the same things. Thankfully my phone sends me instant notifications because i'd hate for others to see it. Although a couple did and sent me lovely PM's. She's a practicing catholic that is a youth co-ordinator - great huh?
Oh dear Lawdy.
To the OP, yes it effects my relationship with them. I cannot fathom how they would vote that way and often see them as unempathetic or at the very least very uninformed.
My goodness a youth coordinator! That is a dangerous attitude for vulnerable youth.
Gee I wonder who she voted for being an extreme Catholic?Thats what scares me. It really made DH aware that Catholic education isn't right for our children (thank goodness). I'm guessing Family First although Tony Abbott hasn't hidden his disgust for homosexuals, premartital sex and abortion so I guess it could go either way basically she's and ignorant bish in my books. I love how they preach about love and tolerance yet give none out unless you tick all the boxes. I'm regretting my choice as an adult to be baptised!
I am a Greens voter and DP voted Labor, doesn't bother me. We are happy to discuss it because we have our hatred of NLP in common :laughing:
My Grandparents are huge One Nation & conservative supporters :barf: and there's no way in hell I'd ever discuss politics with them because they just have no idea about anything apart from the fact that they like racism.
baha. your grandparents are bound by their love for racism!!
I don't really care how other people vote, I only care when people talk ****. which is what most people my age that I know do, who claim to be interested in politics. they have no ideas or information of their own. they just quote their parents or websites. it's annoying.
Several family members vote differently to me, as do a few of my mates. We deliberately don't discuss politics as it's not worth massive arguments so I don't really feel any one way about it since it's never discussed.
Two trunks I Aldo enjoy watching the areas to see how they have swung. I was honestly shocked when our area (macathur) went liberal. We have alot of lower/middle class here..... There are wealthy parts but not sydneys eastern suburbs wealthy....campbelltown wealthy! Lol!
I think the big swing against federal Labor in NSW has a lot to do with the useless state government.
If I can't decide if I like someone, I'll actually start a conversation about politics or religion :laughing:
No seriously, how better to work out what sort of person they are? I don't mind if they have a different opinion to me, I want to know how they argue their point.
Are they passionate? (I like passionate. It can be good, but is it the only subject in their life? I like my friends well rounded.)
Do they try to put me down for having a different view? (definitely not a keeper :no:)
Do they just quote media lines or party cliches? (mmm at least they remember stuff, even if they don't think about it, that could be useful as a shopping buddy :laughing: )
Do they know their facts? I hate it when people argue stuff and their basics are bad. Do some research people! (Noah was in the boat, Moses was on the mountain, Abbott looks just wrong in budgie smugglers :laughing: )
- then again I'd like to hear his wife's argument on that, she's not going to change my mind but that conversation would be hilarious :laughing:
I think discussing politics is important. It makes me rethink my views when I hear others
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