Why I will never vote Green

[Jender]

We have a two major parties

No party can please everyone - but the two major parties try to govern responsibly because they understand that that is what Governments go. Politics is the art of the possible and is rules by pragmatism with a little ideology thrown in.

The Greens don't even pretend that resposible Government matters. It is pure ideological muck. No costings, no responsibility - my way or highway.

Neither major party wants to govern with the Greens - not because they hold them to account. But because they basically say only our way. They do not negotiate. It doesnt matter if you win Government, if the Greens don't like it - that's it.

I've been in meetings with Greens - they won't negoiate - won't be briefed. half the time they refuse meetings anyway.

The Democrats did, Independents do - even the major parties will with each other - most of the time.

The Greens are irresponsible at Government. They play university politics - not grown-up politics.

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[Bubmum]

No..the Greens aren't willing to compromise and play the schoolyard game that passes for politics these days.
There is no difference between the 2 major parties, they just take it in turns to line the pockets of whomever they think deserves it.

[Pippi Longstocking]

What nonsense, OP. The Greens engage in real politics, rather than the ridiculous popularity campaign that is the two major parties main strategy. The Greens make tough decisions, responsible decisions, informed decisions, even when it may threaten people's own economic self-interests and therefore damage their popularity.
The Greens are all about good government. They're thinking beyond the three year term, their policies are responsible, socially just and sustainable.

[Jender]

The Greens never worry about popularity -all they need is their hard core group of supporters. Hard decisions? About what? They have never governed? Have never had to make a dicision

[Savingfishfromdrowning]

Are their ideologies economically feasible?

[Pippi Longstocking]

The Greens never worry about popularity -all they need is their hard core group of supporters. Eh? :confused: I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here, but anyway...I think it's absolutely commendable that the Greens aren't interested in an Australian Idol style election. I'm not saying they -aren't- popular, btw. My point is, they're popular for their politics, rather than for their shmoozing. But I certainly don't think the Greens are the only party with a "hard core group of supporters".


Hard decisions? About what? They have never governed? Have never had to make a dicision
Formulating policies is based on decision-making. The Greens have policies. Therefore...
Politics is ALL about making decisions. It's kinda in the job description.

[Pippi Longstocking]

Are their ideologies economically feasible?

Yes. :yes:
I listened to this yesterday, found it really interesting. :yes:

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=6835

Go Bob! :smiliedance:

[Phyllis Stein]

Are their ideologies economically feasible?

Are the major parties ideologies environmentally feasible? :detective: As I see it, the environment *is* our economy - seems the responsible thing would be to ensure it's a sustainable economy.

OP, almost everything you list as a negative of the Greens is what I see as a positive. And they are not a radical 'fringe' party by any means; the majority of their voters are well educated, middle class, environmentally aware and socially conscious, unlike the politically ignorant masses that the major parties would prefer to court. The Greens might make politics harder for the governing party, sure, but that's not intrinsically a negative thing.

[lambjam]

Refusal to compromise can be an incredibly noble thing... if you truly believe that something is vitally important, why would you compromise? The only reason I can think of is if you're more interested in winning than you are in actual outcomes.

[SassyMummy]

Some things you cannot negotiate on, especially if they go against all your party's values.

I believe that, in the long-run, the Greens in power would absolutely benefit our nation, and the world too.

You can never vote the Greens if you wish, but I absolutely disagree with your reasons.

[Hollywood]

Are the major parties ideologies environmentally feasible? :detective: As I see it, the environment *is* our economy - seems the responsible thing would be to ensure it's a sustainable economy.

OP, almost everything you list as a negative of the Greens is what I see as a positive. And they are not a radical 'fringe' party by any means; the majority of their voters are well educated, middle class, environmentally aware and socially conscious, unlike the politically ignorant masses that the major parties would prefer to court. The Greens might make politics harder for the governing party, sure, but that's not intrinsically a negative thing.

:iagree: especially with the bolded part.

Nearly everyone on my dad's side of the family vote greens (and one of my uncles, a QC, is a candidate for the greens party seat of Melbourne), they are all doctors, lawyers, accountants and wealthy people.

The Greens will never be in power, that is not the point of their party, but it is important to have them there.

[RedPanda]

Sorry, but why does it matter which socio-economic class Greens voters come from? Merely because they're doctors and lawyers does not make them "smarter".

PP, I know you're making a point about Greens voters not being hippies or radicals but it comes across a little odd. Almost like the Greens are "worthy" simply because "them edjamacated" people vote for them.

Quite a lot of family-oriented people are also drawn to the Greens, regardless of their socio-economic status.