View Full Version : Does any one actually like Abbott?
singlemumma82
16-08-2010, 21:46
Reading posts on here, watching TV, talking to friends, every one seems to agree that Tony Abbott is a total douche bag, so I have to ask, does anyone like him?
I don't like him, but I like him more than Julia Gillard.
waterlily
16-08-2010, 21:53
Hell fricken NO. I can't stand the tool. There are not many people I dislike ad much as him.
sockstealingpoltergeist
16-08-2010, 21:56
That man makes me ill. His comments make me afraid for women, and Australia in general.
tinker bella
16-08-2010, 21:56
I don't like him, but I like him more than Julia Gillard.
:iagree: Same.
Lemonhead
16-08-2010, 21:56
I like him about as much as I like the idea of ebola.
RaryGirl
16-08-2010, 21:57
I don't like him, but I like him more than Julia Gillard.
:iagree:
Love_Monkey_Heart
16-08-2010, 21:57
His comments make me afraid for women
:iagree:
I just can't fathom how anyone can like him, let alone more than Julia. I'm dumbfounded! Yes it scares and worries me.
Even reading his name makes me feel a little ill.
Plus I'm voting for a party and their policies not a figurehead. As we have seen very recently, our PM can change internally within 24 hours. So whilst I don't like Abbot (not at all!) I take solace in knowing that he may be stabbed in the back like K Rudd.
waterlily
16-08-2010, 22:00
Yeah I agree Zenifa. I don't understand how any woman could vote for him!!!
What does it say abut the liberals if they voted him as their frontman!!
I guess Even George Bush had his admirers.
I cannot see the attraction in liking someone that is as moronic as Abbott.
What about him is there to like?
Waterlily, remember he got this job as leader by only 1 vote, which meant that half of his parliamentary coalition colleagues voted against him, so why should we vote for him?
waterlily
16-08-2010, 22:05
Why are the people that actually like Abbott not commenting :confused:
Plus I'm voting for a party and their policies not a figurehead. As we have seen very recently, our PM can change internally within 24 hours. So whilst I don't like Abbot (not at all!) I take solace in knowing that he may be stabbed in the back like K Rudd.
what she said ...
I can NOT stand the man ... but I dont like Julia either ..
at the moment - I'm still looking at the parties.. working out which policies I prefer (they BOTH have policies I dont like .. as do the greens) ... so I'm working out which party I PREFER (which I do believe we are SUPPOSED to do .. not just decide which figurehead we dont like ... *shrugs*
MimiGrace
16-08-2010, 22:06
see i think the people who have answered as yes, are saying 'yes i will vote for the party' - i haven't heard anyone actually say they like *him*?
(well - ok i do have one supposed friend on my facebook account - but i'm refusing to acknowledge him these days because he's freaking me out. not sure if he's just a liberal supporter - or an abbot lover)
waterlily
16-08-2010, 22:06
Waterlily, remember he got this job as leader by only 1 vote, which meant that half of his parliamentary coalition colleagues voted against him, so why should we vote for him?
So true!! It also means half the party have lots their marbles!!
If he is the best of the bunch I'll be worried if liberals get in.
what she said ...
I can NOT stand the man ... but I dont like Julia either ..
at the moment - I'm still looking at the parties.. working out which policies I prefer (they BOTH have policies I dont like .. as do the greens) ... so I'm working out which party I PREFER (which I do believe we are SUPPOSED to do .. not just decide which figurehead we dont like ... *shrugs*
Yes point taken, but remember the leader of the party does to a large extent influence the policies, so its not really about LIKING them or prefering them, but when anyone really looks into Tony Abbotts history in politics, its ludricous to even consider voting for him as PM ever!!
Also its interesting when you DO look at policies that many are not due to be implemented til 2013 or 2014 when the next election is due or after, so not much of a policy or commitment me thinks!!
I mean seriously, he's not called the mad monk for nothing (remember this was a nickname given to him by a serious journalist, not a satirist!!).
silverstars
16-08-2010, 22:11
No.....um um um No um um Hell no!!!
giveitago
16-08-2010, 22:13
Yeah I agree Zenifa. I don't understand how any woman could vote for him!!!
What does it say abut the liberals if they voted him as their frontman!!
:iagree:
And this is why I don't see it as voting for a 'party' and not a 'leader' - because who in their right mind would want this tosser to represent them?
The whole party is to blame for having him as their frontman.
Voting based on 'current policy and promises' is to appeal to the short term viewed 'swinging voter' but ideologically only a complete lobotomy could lead me to vote liberal/national ever!!
And I'm no Julia lover either by the way, but sheesh, come on people, lets not make the same mistake as when the americans voted george w bush for his second term !!
waterlily
16-08-2010, 22:20
Voting based on 'current policy and promises' is to appeal to the short term viewed 'swinging voter' but ideologically only a complete lobotomy could lead me to vote liberal/national ever!!
And I'm no Julia lover either by the way, but sheesh, come on people, lets not make the same mistake as when the americans voted george w bush for his second term !!
:yelclap:
I agree giveitago.
No. He's got a head like a kicked in biscuit tin.
silverstars
16-08-2010, 22:26
He is the most UnChristian Christian!
He is the most UnChristian Christian!
that is a very true statement
When Tony Abbott talks about asylum seekers, why doesn't anyone ask him"What would Jesus do?"
Yes he's quite un-christian indeed. They arent' boat people, just people!
Just for the record, there is not a policy or a promise he could make that would ever make me vote for him!!
ThereIsNoPlaceLikeHome
16-08-2010, 22:36
When Tony Abbott talks about asylum seekers, why doesn't anyone ask him"What would Jesus do?"
Yes he's quite un-christian indeed. They arent' boat people, just people!
:yelclap::yelclap::yelclap::yelclap:
Blueberry Crumble
16-08-2010, 22:38
I think he looks like the evil monster from Monsters Inc, the one who looks like a weasel- that is who he reminds me of anyway lol.
And that is my intellectual contribution to this thread
Nope I dont like him at all and would trust him as to run the country as much as a I would trust a junk yard dog.
silverstars
17-08-2010, 15:52
When Tony Abbott talks about asylum seekers, why doesn't anyone ask him"What would Jesus do?"
Yes he's quite un-christian indeed. They arent' boat people, just people!
Yes I agree, massive hypocrite. As a Catholic myself I have come across many people who explain how caring, kind, holy and religious they are yet their ideas, words, actions and opinions don't seem to mirror this. I will be honest and say that Tony Abbott and people like him turn me off Catholicism and Religion altogether.
I have stickers with his ugly mug on it with a big bold statement "BAD BOSS? BAD LUCK!! - I'M TONY ABBOTT" and posters saying "WorkChoices is dead. Buried. Cremated..... Not everything I say is the gospel truth"..
NO, I do not like that canniving toolburger!!
KatiesMum
17-08-2010, 16:02
Yeah I agree Zenifa. I don't understand how any woman could vote for him!!!
What does it say abut the liberals if they voted him as their frontman!!
umm - Labour went to the election in 04 with Mark Latham as their front man !!!!
to answer the question - no I dont like Tony Abbott.
But I dislike Labor much more ... so will vote for the party and policies I dislike the least.
goldencrumble
17-08-2010, 16:08
Meh - I am voting liberal (seems like one of the minority on BH). I would rather a different liberal leader but Tony Abbott is what we have.
I prefer him over Julia "the real Julia" Gillard.
Lillynix
17-08-2010, 16:29
HELL to the NO :no:
I will never, ever be a Liberal voter though, regardless of who the front-person is, but I will never, ever be a Labor voter either ;)
HELL to the NO :no:
I will never, ever be a Liberal voter though, regardless of who the front-person is, but I will never, ever be a Labor voter either ;)
I find it sad that people seem to think they have to vote for one or the other. No wonder nothing ever changes around here!!!
I'm not voting for either this year, Liberal will be at the bottom of my vote though.
Lillynix
17-08-2010, 16:41
Benji, that's just it isn't it? I keep reading that people don't really like either major party but that they will 'pick one' anyway. There are lots of parties in the election campaign to 'pick' from, just because they are not a "major" party doesn't mean they're not worth your vote or that it would be a wasted vote.
4babycinos
17-08-2010, 17:49
Why are the people that actually like Abbott not commenting :confused:
Because its not worth the hassle. Its quite obvious that there is big majority on here who will vote for Julia, so it doesnt really matter why I would vote for Abbott/Liberal I'm just going to get slammed!! Hence, too much of a hassle ;)
there is something about the guy that always makes me feel ill. not many people have this affect on me.
7rugrats
17-08-2010, 17:52
I can't stand the man!!!
Benji, that's just it isn't it? I keep reading that people don't really like either major party but that they will 'pick one' anyway. There are lots of parties in the election campaign to 'pick' from, just because they are not a "major" party doesn't mean they're not worth your vote or that it would be a wasted vote.
PLEASE .. give me an option ..
I dont agree with all the policies of the Labor party .. I dont agree with all the policies of the Liberal party .. but I dont agree with ALL the policies of the Greens either.
I haven't SEEN anything from the democrats (heck - I dont even know if I have one in my area???) and there is no chance of me voting for family first, or sex party ...
SassyMummy
17-08-2010, 18:18
That man makes me ill. His comments make me afraid for women, and Australia in general.
Absolutely!
No, I do not like Tony Abbott. I'm not on Team Gillard either, but considering both parties have pretty similar policies at the moment, there's not much to distinguish one from the other... apart from the leaders.
Luckily, neither will be getting my vote, and I seek comfort in the fact that if my vote eventually ends up as a vote for either (due to preferences), then it'll go to someone who doesn't use their religion in their political decision making, and who doesn't really care what I do with the contents of my own uterus, or my own hymen, or how many shirts I iron.
MegaGuts
17-08-2010, 18:31
Plain and simple answer here, NO :no: and agree with pretty much every poster on here who doesn't like him as to why i don't like him.
RaryGirl
17-08-2010, 18:35
PLEASE .. give me an option ..
I dont agree with all the policies of the Labor party .. I dont agree with all the policies of the Liberal party .. but I dont agree with ALL the policies of the Greens either.
I haven't SEEN anything from the democrats (heck - I dont even know if I have one in my area???) and there is no chance of me voting for family first, or sex party ...
You've forgetting the Fishing Party ... we're getting lots of ads for them up here. :p
You know what, I'm going to go totally against the grain. The man is a a neo-con crack pot and the notion of him being our pm is frankly terrifying.
But... I have a sneaking suspicion he'd be fun to have a drink with.
Lillynix
18-08-2010, 09:03
PLEASE .. give me an option ..
I dont agree with all the policies of the Labor party .. I dont agree with all the policies of the Liberal party .. but I dont agree with ALL the policies of the Greens either.
I haven't SEEN anything from the democrats (heck - I dont even know if I have one in my area???) and there is no chance of me voting for family first, or sex party ...
You're never going to agree with all of the policies from ANY party. It's a case of 'the lesser evil' and what policies you deem more important.
There's a few parties that I personally like, such as:
Australian Greens
The Democrats
Socialist Alliance
The Secular Party of Australia also isn't too bad
The Australian Sex Party is also pretty good, though not in my own electorate sadly
And don't forget your Independents, i'm lucky in that both Independents in my electorate are good, so they both rate above the two major parties for me.
So there are DEFINITELY choices Veve, you just need to work out your own 'lesser evils' :)
Janesmum123
18-08-2010, 11:14
You're never going to agree with all of the policies from ANY party. It's a case of 'the lesser evil' and what policies you deem more important.
There's a few parties that I personally like, such as:
Australian Greens
The Democrats
Socialist Alliance
The Secular Party of Australia also isn't too bad
The Australian Sex Party is also pretty good, though not in my own electorate sadly
And don't forget your Independents, i'm lucky in that both Independents in my electorate are good, so they both rate above the two major parties for me.
So there are DEFINITELY choices Veve, you just need to work out your own 'lesser evils' :)
OMG I thought you where joking about the Australian Sex Party but I googled it http://www.sexparty.org.au/ ...Brilliant!
Janesmum123
18-08-2010, 11:15
And I HATE Tony Abbott with a passion.
belizeli
18-08-2010, 11:58
No. He's got a head like a kicked in biscuit tin.
:laughing::laughing: I just snorted coffee everywhere!!
I hate both the major leaders equally. Abbotts a moron, his "I will stop the boats" ad gives me the poos big time! If he is going to "stop the boats" at least be honest about it and tell everyone that these "boat people" make up only a fraction of our yearly immigration number! The big numbers come right through the government! And the thought of his renaming work choices 3 months after the election and bringing it back in makes my stomach hurt!
Gillard scares me... how can she make policies for families? How can she understand families? Sure she grew up in one, but that's not enough for me. No wonder she opposed paid maternity leave..she's got no idea!
I didn't know about the sex party... maybe Ill vote for them.. I don't know enough to hate them yet :laughing:
Ive voted for neither major party in the last 2 elections, I hate that my well thought out vote makes no difference :(
Compulsory voting should be scrapped. I hate to think how many votes are lost by people who don't care, donkey votes or incorrect voting cards.
Lillynix
18-08-2010, 12:12
Ive voted for neither major party in the last 2 elections, I hate that my well thought out vote makes no difference :(
But it DOES make a difference :yes: By not voting (or even giving preference to) a major party you are letting them know that you DON'T support them and perhaps if enough people give their vote to (for eg) The Greens rather than a major party then change WILL happen.
But change can only happen if people like you and I keep voting the way we do and hope that others will also see that they don't 'have to settle' for a major party, IYKWIM?
Phyllis Stein
18-08-2010, 12:23
Gillard scares me... how can she make policies for families? How can she understand families? Sure she grew up in one, but that's not enough for me. No wonder she opposed paid maternity leave..she's got no idea!
I totally disagree. First, she may not have children but she does have a family. The nuclear family is not the only type of family in Australia.
Second, how many male politicians actually play any sort of significant parenting role? If Gillard was a childless man, would there be the same level of suspicion about his ability to govern for those with children?
Thirdly, Gillard's "opposition" to paid maternity leave was a media beat-up. Critiquing certain aspects of a particular policy is very different to rejecting the general need for such a policy, full stop. You can want a climate change policy without agreeing with the details of the ETS, for instance.
belizeli
18-08-2010, 12:23
Thanks Lillynix :)
I know it makes a difference .. I just like to sook about it sometimes, especially when it feels like it doesn't!
I remember hearing somewhere after the last election that the Greens had a huge jump in primary votes, it got me all excited thinking that maybe one day we could have a country run by someone other than the major parties.
belizeli
18-08-2010, 12:39
I totally disagree. First, she may not have children but she does have a family. The nuclear family is not the only type of family in Australia.
Second, how many male politicians actually play any sort of significant parenting role? If Gillard was a childless man, would there be the same level of suspicion about his ability to govern for those with children?
Thirdly, Gillard's "opposition" to paid maternity leave was a media beat-up. Critiquing certain aspects of a particular policy is very different to rejecting the general need for such a policy, full stop. You can want a climate change policy without agreeing with the details of the ETS, for instance.
I did say it wasn't enough for ME. I don't believe anyone can fully understand anything unless they have been in that situation themselves.
I do realise there are more than one "type" of family, but most Australians however the make up of adults, will have children.
People vote on a personal level.. its human nature, and on a personal level, that is important to me.
And yep, if Gillard was a childless man Id still have the same concerns.
I have the same concerns for everything a PM or potential PM is spouting policies for, in areas where they have no experience. Families arent about facts and figures, each one is unique.
I hadn't looked into Gillards opposition of the maternity leave that thoroughly.. I took it at face value.....:laughing::laughing: I gotta laugh at myself for that one!! Im the first one to dismiss anything a pollie says as a lie!
MimiGrace
18-08-2010, 18:14
I totally disagree. First, she may not have children but she does have a family. The nuclear family is not the only type of family in Australia.
:iagree::yelclap::yelclap:
I don't *like* julia gillard very much (i don't dislike her - she's just peeved me off a lot with her anti-birth choices stuff). But the fact that she doesn't have children means diddly squat to how she is as a leader.
And she isn't the only person up in canberra who is involved in these processes - which means there ARE mums and dads who have a say.
So no, childlessness is no reason to dismiss someone as unqualified :no: (even midwives/nannies/teachers can be childless and good ;))
redcrayongirl
18-08-2010, 18:26
:iagree:
That man makes me ill. His comments make me afraid for women, and Australia in general.
missie_mack
18-08-2010, 18:41
TBH I probably share a few of the same views on life as Tony Abbott and think sometimes he just words things badly. However I wouldn't want someone with a total lack of elqouence to be the figurehead of our country and shudder to think what daft thing he could say to an important person and offend them. Nor do I believe his views are that of the majority of Australia or suits the majority :cool:
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