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*Cj*
11-08-2010, 21:38
PARENTS who receive income support will lose hundreds of dollars in welfare if their four-year-old child does not have a health check, if the Labor government is re-elected.
From next July, recipients of family tax benefit A will have to prove to Centrelink that their four-year-old has had a Medicare-funded health check. If not, they will miss out on the end-of-year supplement, now worth $726.35 a child.
Prime Minister Julia Gillard will announce the requirement today in Melbourne, as part of Labor's broader welfare policy.
The government says more than 11,000 four-year-olds are in Victorian families that receive family tax benefit A each year. Nationally, the figure is 50,000.
The government introduced the Healthy Kids Check in 2008.
The Age believes the new stick might be in response to concerns that not enough children are having the check. The number is believed to be well below what was expected.
It is also understood that GPs have been divided over the usefulness of the check.
Between July 2008 and June 2009, there were about 40,000 health checks, the equivalent of 15 per cent of Australia's four-year-olds, the government says.
At the end of December, 62,823 Healthy Kids Checks had been carried out by GPs.
Australian Doctor magazine reported in October that the smaller-than-expected number had led to the government underspending $5 million on the program.
The aim of the check is to ensure children are healthy before starting school and to intervene early if there are problems. It measures functions such as vision and hearing and is usually done when the child is immunised.
Regular payment of family tax benefit payments to parents who do not take their child for the check will not be affected.
Parents are generally eligible for family tax benefit A if they have children aged up to 24, usually in school or study.
Once the combined income of parents exceeds $45,000, the amount the family receives is reduced. The payment cuts out between $100,000 and almost $163,000, depending on the number of children and their age.
It can be worth between $50 and $208 a child a fortnight, depending on the child's age.
It is the latest of several government policies to reward parents who meet certain requirements and threaten to withdraw income support from those who do not.
The government is also testing the stopping of welfare payments to parents whose children regularly do not go to school.


http://www.theage.com.au/federal-election/payment-to-depend-on-health-check-20100810-11y8v.html

What do people think???

JabberJaw
11-08-2010, 22:05
I don't really have a problem with it, its just a basic health check, and they can refer you to further services if they deem necessary. My first 2 didnt have them as it wasn't available then (although they had a health check as required by the book the hospi gives you) but my DS had the 4 yr old check and incidentally it helped me pick up the fact that he was colour blind.

It is done by a nurse at the doctors surgery, well DS's was anyway. And it was free.

Just Add Water
11-08-2010, 22:10
I dont have an issue with it either... I think it's a good way for kids to be checked over and intervention offered. I know a few kids who parents would do it purely for financial reaons - but it would have benefited their kids who are now having massive problems.

trishalishous
11-08-2010, 22:47
I dont have an issue with it either... I think it's a good way for kids to be checked over and intervention offered. I know a few kids who parents would do it purely for financial reaons - but it would have benefited their kids who are now having massive problems.
:iagree:

Myztiks#1Fan
11-08-2010, 22:52
i didnt know there was a 4yr health check on children but now i do. i dont mind, if its meant to be done, i guess there is more of an incentive to do it for some.

Fuchsia!
11-08-2010, 23:03
To me it just sounds like a way to get more people to vaccinate. Offer them free healthcheck while they vaccinate your kids.

JabberJaw
11-08-2010, 23:09
To me it just sounds like a way to get more people to vaccinate. Offer them free healthcheck while they vaccinate your kids.

My DS never got vaccinated at that time, it was separate. With the nurse at the doctors surgery, not the GP himself. She was there on certain days at certain times, and checked his eyes/hearing general health etc. Then he got a little show bag type thing with activity book,stickers, toothbrush and a few other things. The activity book was about healthy eating etc. And she also refered us to an optometrist for a further eye test.

We have moved now, and only have one GP here, but late last yr the health nurse actually came to the local school and did the 4yr old health check to the prep students, and also seen the older kids if parents requested.

Had nothing to do with vaccination at all, they didnt even question me on that, that i recall anyhow.

Fuchsia!
11-08-2010, 23:11
When I got DS's school newsletter it said about the program and it was for a free health check when you booked in to get their vaccinations in. Thats why i thought it may have been connected.

JabberJaw
11-08-2010, 23:24
When I got DS's school newsletter it said about the program and it was for a free health check when you booked in to get their vaccinations in. Thats why i thought it may have been connected.

Oh. Well here there not connected. Actually i think when i took DS to the GP one day they asked me had he had the health check, never heard of it previously, so i made appoint while i was there. Where i am now, they got a note sent home, but again nothing about vaccinating on it, just permission to be seen by the 'Healthy Kids' nurse.

Still it gives kids the opportunity to be tested for possible eye problems, plus a hearing test, healthy eating, oral care etc. It would definitely benefit heaps of children.

Amara
12-08-2010, 08:19
I don't like it being linked to a payment that those on high incomes don't get. The way it reads is that those on low incomes will be pretty much forced to get their kids checked if they want the end of year payment yet those on high incomes will have no financial penalty for not getting kids checked. I am sure rich people's kids have health and development problems that might get missed too.

Lillynix
12-08-2010, 08:37
I don't like it. My DD is 4 at the end of this month and I have no reason to take her to a GP. She's entirely healthy, so why should I HAVE to get her 'checked' when I KNOW she's healthy just to receive a payment that I thought I was entitled to under Australian Government? Why are they trying to place 'requirements' on something that has is there to help with the costs of RAISING our children?

Though this wouldn't be brought in until next year, I would still then be in a position to have to drag all 3 (possibly 4 by the time it applies to me) children along to the GP with me, which in itself is a total hassle and fork out over $60 just for the "privilege" of someone telling me my child is healthy!? What a crock!

We avoid the GP (or any medical professional) unless it's truly warranted, and a 4yo 'health check' is not warranted unless there is a concern showing.

dillydAlly
12-08-2010, 08:38
To me it just sounds like a way to get more people to vaccinate. Offer them free healthcheck while they vaccinate your kids.

:iagree:

I don't really have a problem with it!

Pina Colada
12-08-2010, 08:46
which in itself is a total hassle and fork out over $60 just for the "privilege" of someone telling me my child is healthy!? What a crock!



The article says it is a Medicare funded healthcheck.

I don't have a problem with it. I would be happy to take my child for a health check. If they were confirmed to be in total health, then great! If not, at least I would be then aware and could do something about it. I don't think it is a bad idea to have children get used to Drs and nurses anyway.

Similar to the dentist. I take my kids even when I believe their teeth to be completely healthy.

I know a couple of instances where a child needed help or treatment in an area but the parents were turning a blind eye hoping it would go away, and it went on until he started school before the school told them they needed to do something about it. If this healthcheck caught it 2 years earlier, than all the better for him.

CookiesRYum
12-08-2010, 08:52
To me it just sounds like a way to get more people to vaccinate. Offer them free healthcheck while they vaccinate your kids.

:iagree:

JabberJaw
12-08-2010, 09:09
Is it only non vaxxers that have a problem with it? Like its another big conspiracy the government has set up to try and fill kids with toxins :confused:

Mrs Nietzsche
12-08-2010, 09:12
To be honest I think it sounds like a huge waste of money on an already strained medicare.

I assume they are trying to target kids who might otherwise fall through the cracks though.

Lillynix
12-08-2010, 09:13
Nope, I don't hate the idea because i'm a non-vaxxer, I hate the idea because I see it as placing conditions (and bribery) on something I feel we should (and have been) already be entitled to.

"Oh...well now you need to do X to get your money!" :barf:

Fuchsia!
12-08-2010, 09:18
I also think the money could be better spent elsewhere like free dental. You can bulk bill in most places anyway so its not really a huge thing having a free health check.

And i do feel its a way to get the lazy vaxxers to vaccinate with bribing them with a free healthcheck. Whether thats a good thing or not who knows. But the idea behind it is not good IMO.