FRozen Embryos to India??

[wlee9462]

Hi,

We are currently researching surrogacy in India; I was wondering if anyone has had FROZEN EMBRYOS transported to India for embryo transfer that way??

I had cancer, so we did a few cycles of IVF and froze some embryos in the hope of having our children via surrogacy; now I've come across a potential problem ... different clinics using different thawing and freezing techniques.

Because we don't have that many embryos; I am hoping to get in touch with someone who has some idea about this.

I have read some horror stories re: lost embryos during transport, wasted embryos because of wrong technique used to process them, etc ... This really worries me a LOT!

Can anyone help??

Thanks heaps. ANd GOOD LUCK to all you guys out there hoping to create a family!!!! :smiliedance:

[Vessie]

Yes I had my frozen embryos transported by courier - Medair. My embryos were with SIVF, so I asked the lab manager at SIVF to phone the lab manager in India to talk freezing/thawing technique as I was really nervous this process would go wrong. After this I was less nervous and as it turned out there wasn't any problems at the Indian end.
It's best that you arrange the day/time suitable to both parties for telephone conversation.
It was extremely nice of the SIVF lab manager to do this deed.
good luck!

[wlee9462]

Hi Vessie,

Thank you so much for replying so quickly. It's taken a HUGE load of my worries. :p

Now I just have to get in touch with my IVF clinic and see what they can do.

How is your surro-mom doing?

When r u planning to travel there?

[Dr Goral]

Dear Wlee,

Our team here in India have handled such cases & its absolutely possible to ship embryos to India.

Do feel free to talk to me regarding any issues.

Warm regards

Dr Goral :)

[Manda_J]

Hi wlee9462 and Vessie,

I've just come across your post about Indian surrogacy and was wondering if either of you would mind giving me some further info? I had seen info about the India programs but wasn't sure if this was legal for Australian couples?

Thanks so much,
Manda xo

[pisces00]

dr goral - pls check your visitors messages. I have sent you one.

[Vessie]

Hi Manda

I have sent you a private message
V

[Marzi]

Hi, I'm looking into surrogacy and am considering the India option.
Can anyone with any info please PM me.

I too want info on frostie transfer, and other details including cost and travel arrangements.

Thanks in advance
Marzi

[Vessie]

The best people to contact are surrogacyadvisory@gmail.com
they are aussie couple who have been there for 2 babies. They have loads of information.

The courier charge is $2500. You need to sign an embryo release form with the ivf clinic and then provide this to the courier company who look after everything else - it was really quite straight forward.
The cost of surrogacy in India is around $35K plus airfare ($2000 per person), lawyer and accommodation. The accommodation is quite expensive as you are there for around 1 month and you would have to stay in a nice place as you have bub. So this is around $200/day.
Good luck!

[djjk]

Hi
First post here and am also looking into the India surrogacy option. We cant fall pregnant using ivf (thin endometrium) so this seems to be the only way left.

If anyone could pm me or even post in response some reputable agencies in India I would really appreciate it. All the websites I have found dont seem to have been updated for years.

Thanks :)

[Renoirxx]

hi ppl:wave:
i am also very interested in this. i would like to know where i can find someinfromation on this just incase our ivf attempts dont work. we are about to start our first cycle and i hope to god it works, but if it dosent i only wanna do a few more cycles of ivf here in australia b4 looking to inida for a surrogate. any one with help info would greatly appreciated..:sunshine::sunshine::sunshine:

[Crystaldt]

Hello,

I'm from the USA, and have a son that was born with the help of a surrogate in India. Currently that same surrogate is carrying twins for us that are due in December. Please check out www.worldofsurrogacy.com (http://www.worldofsurrogacy.com), we may be able to help you.

[Sarix12]

Hi

My husband and I are currently in Mumbai, India undergoing our second IVF cycle for surrogacy. As previously advised we had been in contact with Chris at surrogacyadvisory@gmail and they are wonderful and full of so much information.

In the beginning it felt like such an overwhelming process but it is actually very straight forward - dare I say easy. The first go was a bit different because we didn't know what to expect but this one has been a breeze.

I have just had my EPU today and have had the best IVF results ever, they are much more advanced here, or should I say they are not limited by the constraints Medicare place on our treatment in OZ.

I had previously undertaken 6 IVF cycles with a total of 15 transfers, without success.

We are using the Corion fertility clinic and they are wonderful. There are some surrogacy support forums out there but they are linked to a specific clinic - so be aware when researching. We chose this clinic because the doctor that Chris (from the above email address) used had branched out and set up her own clinic and he couldn't recommend her highly enough and I can see why.

We now have our fingers crossed.:fingerscrossed:

[Marzi]

Sarix, :highfive: on your IVF results.
I can't wait to hear of your surro 's BFP.

Do you mind giving me a run down of what you went thro to get to this point? PM me if you like. I hope to do surro next year:fingerscrossed: I have to save for it:thumbsdown:

All the best
xx

[Sarix12]

Hi Marzi

Very happy to discuss. Do you mean my infertility journey or just the pathway we took into surrogacy. Let me know and ill give you the spiel, I promise not war and peace...:ecomcity:

[metoo]

Hi Sarix12,

Am looking for all the help I can get, as I have been from pillar to post and am still none the wiser where to start. You've recommended Corian Clinic but do they do cryotransfers for Gestation Surrogacy cases, can you PM me about all the ins and outs - all help greatly appreciated, as I am in Perth WA


:xmas:

[wlee9462]

Hi Ladies,

I have been on a little "sanity" break away from this surrogacy planning thing .. and now am back with renewed energy levels ... cancer ... hysterectomy .. can really get a girl down :-O

I also decided on Corion previously as well in Mumbai as I have been in touch with many people and have spent countless hours scouring the internet, forums, websites ... u name it .. I checked it out.

We were about to register a couple of weeks ago and got the word from Dr. Kadam that Mumbai customs is no longer accepting human frozen embryos as of 1 month ago ... I am guessing from beginning of November??

Apparently a shipment of embryos from USA got sent straight back to it's origin on arrival and was deemed unacceptable package.

Needless to say I was totally gobsmacked ... I launched into panic mode and did more digging and emailing ... yep .. it's true .... Mumbai clinics are having issues accepting frozen embies from overseas! even the courier companies who have money to make out of this acknowledged they currently do not ship embies to India!

Anyhow, a little more researching later .... apparently some Delhi clinics DONT have issues ... but I am NOT sure about this ... do don't take my word on it. I am in the process of doing more research myself!

Dr. Kadam is awaiting resolution of this issue and suggested that I wait a little and she'll be in touch as soon as she knows what we can do .. I've gotta say; she has been very good at communicating through the last few months when I went bizerk looking for information re: surrogacy in India, and again, the few ppl whom i have been in touch with all advised me she was the real deal!

If u are currently in VIC, it is still ok to do surrogacy overseas and arrange for child to return with you (not so in NSW as of a few weeks ago, those ********!) ... unless the law changes in VIC in the near future? Fingers crossed!!!

You are supposed to organise a release form from ur IVF clinic to release ur frozen embies, and contact a shipping company .... your IVF clinic should b able to suggest some. MEDAIR has been mentioned many time to me and the price is around $2500 (tho currently NOT shipping to India) .. the guy there was VERY nice and VERY helpful re: info .. even tho he couldn't help w the shipping issue.

If you are shipping frozen embies, u r not required to be at the clinic until prior to birth; this was an issue for us because the shipping itself was already so expensive ... so NOT having to make a previous trip was a bit of a bonus.

If anyone needs to know anything, feel free to contact me ... I am more than happy to let u guys know what I know.

Hope someone gets something out of my ranting!

GOod luck to everyone who is currently looking and planning on surrogacy. I wish everyone ALL the best!!!!

-wlee9462-:gl:

[wlee9462]

:smiliedance:
Hi Sarix12,

Am looking for all the help I can get, as I have been from pillar to post and am still none the wiser where to start. You've recommended Corian Clinic but do they do cryotransfers for Gestation Surrogacy cases, can you PM me about all the ins and outs - all help greatly appreciated, as I am in Perth WA


to meetoo -> Yes, Corion clinic do perform frozen embryo transfers, u just have to let Dr. Kadam know what method ur IVF clinic used to freeze ur embryos and what methods need to be used to thaw them .... admittedly ... all clinic has advised me that you have a redued success rate from frozen embies, and not all embies survive the thawing process as well.

Alas, currently we still have this BIG shipping embryo issue happening .... fingers crossed it gets resolved soon.

Nevertheless, u gotta give it a go!!! Goodluck! Anything else u need to know, just msg me. :-)

:xmas:

[djjk]

My wife and I are also going through Corion. Dr Kadam has been great.

Unfortunately, our ivf clinic in Sydney has now said they won't prescribe us the medicines we need (that can't be shipped from India), because of the new NSW law. Which means we have to go over twice in a few weeks. Once to collect medicines, second time for stimulation and collection.

We are so annoyed - commercial surrogacy isnt even illegal yet in nsw! The law has been passed but not enacted - it has to get through by the attorney general, which most likely won't happen til at least Feb 11. We met a lawyer on this matter last week, who confirmed that it's been illegal in Qld for over 20 years - but has anyone ever been charged? Of course not. The authorities aren't going to waste time chasing people that want to be parents. Also, it's only the act of entering into a surrogacy arrangement that is actually illegal. If you do this (by signing contacts etc) by Feb you'll be fine.

Cheers

[Sarix12]

Hi All

Sorry I cant be of much help with the frozen emby shipping - mine are always crud so haven't wasted my time with this... :- ) !

Once we had contacted corion and been ok'd we arrange to send all our fertility medical doc to Dr Kushie, our oz clinics gave us hard copies and we scanned them and email them to Dr.

We then waited until day one of cycle and started on the Pill, that way we knew almost to the day when AF would show.

We booked our flights to mumbai and flew in the day AF was expected and made an appointment with Dr Kushie (let me say a little nerve racking when AF tried to show up early... WT... just gobbled a few extra pill tablets !)
Our flight arrive at 10.30 am and our appointment was at 1.30. Luckily Af arrived that day (whilst stopped over in Singapore - thank you body for finally doing something as required).

Went to clinic - had some blood tests - both hubby and myself (HIV, hormone etc) had first injection got drugs for next 3 days and then scooted back to hotel.

as per IVF cycle here went every 3 days ish for scans and to pick up new meds - Dr Kushie adjusts dosages dependant on folli growth.

Went in for EPU - very efficient in and out in twenty minutes and never felt better (usually suffer from anaesthetic probs post pick up ). Stayed at clinic - which is where it is done - they have a theatre and full lab at clinic. 3 Hours later back to hotel.

transfer to surro 3 days later and we were on a plane home, all in all we were there about 16 days and filled in our time sight seeing.

Did the same thing for the second attempt to. We stayed both times at JW Marriot Juhu and found ourselves a great cabbie who took us to clinic every day and waited as long as it took and then returned us to the hotel. He came every day as we advised and was fantastic.

Two reasons this is great 1) getting cabs/tuk tuks and not being taken for a 'ride' takes a bit to get used to in India but once you get the hang of it its great, but much easier to have transport waiting especially after EPU (hotel transport is very very exy!) Secondly, there is a thing know as Indian time and everything happens in Indian time - this means whenever...some days we would be at the clinic 2 hours, some days 30 mins (doing the same thing with the same number of clients). If your appointment is at 11 you may be seen at 11.10 or maybe 12.15 !!! You get used to it as it happens everywhere in India, this is why it helps having a cab waiting out the front as you never know when you'll finish and dependent on the time of day, getting transport can be hard. It also is the same price ( I know hard to believe) but you will get a set price and they prefer to wait as it is more cost effective to bring you back and get a double fare than to sit in the major traffic jams going to and fro.

Our Taxi driver was Rameesh he was fantastic - knew where to go (not an easy thing as the street naming and numbering system is not like ours) so its was good to not have to explain over and over again where the clinic was, he was very friendly (like a grand pa, as he was 70 which surprised me greatly as he didn't look it) and he always waited for us and even took us sight seeing and never worried about the time frame, lets say we gave him big tips every trip and also a slipped him a large tip at the end as it was so worth the peace of mind, in case you are wondering we are talking about $12 for a return trip b/w hotel and clinic that would be over a 2-3 hour period, hence why we tipped him.

Our second trip went just as well and the weather was better, we stayed less days as we flew out the day of transfer due to hubby's work commitments but that was ok. Unfortunately this last attempt also failed and now we are on the search for donor eggs to use with indian surrogacy using Dr Kushie's clinic again. Doing some research on South African websites.

All in all we loved our experience, enjoyed the sightseeing and have no regrets. India is a bit of a culture shock, I have travelled extensively but the poverty still took me by surprise ( and the rudeness of people) The clinics is sparse in the waiting room, not like ours here,when we first went to the clineic we were like - what have we done !!! but where it counts in the theatre and in the lab/scan rooms is all top of the line high tech- but you don't get to see that til the end, but trust me don't judge it by the first impression, it is great and Dr's and nurses are very efficient.

Hopefully I have helped and yes I did end up writing war and peace, but its such an amazing experience and so may little things that I never thought of here in Oz - like getting to clinic on day of EPU and having to get Meds back to hotel ASAP, as it is very hot in Mumbai and even with A/C u worry (thankfully clinic now has ice packs and insulated bags) You should have seen our mini bar in the hotel, Im sure the house keeping thought we were druggies... it was choccas !!!

Take care

Danni:ecomcity:

[metoo]

Hi Wlee9462,
Just wanted to know, have they heard anything about a rough timeframe/solution on the frostie shipping issues? I do understand fresh is best, frosties have less chance, but being in similar situ as yourself, it's really only option avail.
I would love more advise regarding what to do next? I've emailed the clinic, but what do I do next? Do you just book a trip to Arand and hope for the best or is everything preplanned via the clinic or your own arrangements. All help is greatly appreciated.:xmas:

[Marzi]

This has me really concerned. I have come to see surro as our only real option.
Is there any more developments? Do we know what the reasoning is? Which clinics are involved? Is there another way to get the frostys there?
Sorry for the Spanish inqusition, I guess I'm thinking aloud.
Please anyone post any details you find
Marzi xx

[wlee9462]

Hi Marzi and metoo;

Sorry for the late reply. yes .... I know how u guys feel. I went into meltdown after I heard. There does not seem to be much we can do at all.

Surrogaci Center India apparently has no issues getting them delivered by Cryolabs to New Delhi ... but I am not that convinced a the moment (not because I have a reason to be btw) ... I'm little worried about sending the only 5 precious embies we have in HOPE of it getting there and spending all that money as well for the transport and then having it returned!

THe doctor I initially chose was Dr. Kadam, she said she will get back to me as soon as the issue resolves, so I am doing research in other countries as well as sitting on my backside and waiting for now.

I am sorry i cannot give u guys better news. I wish I had the ovaries to just go there and do it there :( I will post new as soon as I hear of what an b done.

Goodluck.

-wlee9462-

[djjk]

Guys
My wife and I are taking a different approach.

Rather than the stress and worry of sending our frozen embies over there (which will probly cost circa $3k anyway), we are heading over there for sperm donation and egg collection in mid January. Dr Kadam at Corion has been extremely helpful with us and is prescribing all medication so we can start the process from oz before arriving.

Let us know if any questions.

Cheers
Josh

[wlee9462]

sorry, forgot to add:

Dr. Kadam seems to think it will take anther 2-3 mths to resolve?
I don't know if there is any other way you can get the embryos there.
It seems only the Mumbai custom is involved according to the clinics in Delhi (but are they simply trying to get u to register??) I don;t know ... forgive me for being so sceptical.
I feel it's likely just a money issue; someone wants there palms greased before they will let the frozen embryos through ---- This is just my speculation

[wlee9462]

I agree with djjk,

If u still have ur bits, i.e. ovaries ... it might not b a bad idea to go there and do it?
I just don't have my ovaries anymore, so can't do it ... those 5 embies are our only hope unless I get ovarian tissues re-implanted ... which I am trying to avoid because it's further surgery again :-(

Take care everyone. Good luck on your journey.

[donnie1973]

Hi

As someone who has done this twice with Medair (I can assist with this for you) I believe the issue with customs is still prevalent (as Dr Kadam has noted) and may be for a short while yet. I have been in active discussions with Medair as to what the pending solution is. The issue was caused by a silly US Dr who brought his own embryos with him in a cryoshipper from the US in his luggage...what on earth is that about. Anyway, Customs found out, and sent him back with his croshipper...all embryos shipments are still in limbo due to this incident.

Knowing India very well (spent 3 months there in past 3 yrs), there is a palm greasing scenario for sure...why else would there be such a stalemate.

I am an Aust. representative for Medair, so, if you want to email me at medairaustralia@gmail.com, I will keep you posted with any developments. It is not good timing considering the NSW issue has also presented itself in Nov. Now, that is one dreadful piece of legislation...baseless and selfish. I was informed by a very close source, this decision in NSW, per a member of parliaments words, was to stop gay couples having children (thanks Labor party for being so ultra conservative). This person went on to say that there was in no way any real interest in stopping hetro couples having children through surrogacy...it was the gay issue at stake...stopping them having families. Well well well...they will have families whether we like it or not.

D

[maneesh5880]

Dear Friends,
I need some help very quickly due to the NSW legislation coming into effect from 1st of March.

Me and my wife (yes I am the husband) have gone through few assisted fertility cycles (pills, IUI, IVF etc etc) which lasted almost 5 - 6 years since we started. We ended our journey unsuccessfully in 2009 when my wife actually fell pregnant but due to complications in the 34th week, we had a still birth.

Since then it has taken a lot to recover both emotionally and physically but last year we finally gathered courage to think about pregnancy again since we still had 4 embryos left (still there at IVF Australia).

We wanted to go down the path of surrogacy in India and all our research told us that there is no provision to get the baby back into Australia unless you stayed overseas for a year and then adopt the baby legally. We were very discouraged and started to wonder a childless life, until the Nicole Kidman case came to light.

We now found out 2 days back that it is straight forward to get the child back into Australia under citizenship by descent. Now we want to go ahead with the surrogacy program but now have to deal with the NSE legislation about commercial surrogacy.

What we want to achieve is to setup a contract before 1st of March with a surrogacy clinic in Delhi and I was wondering if someone can recommend a good clinic in Delhi or anywhere else in India?

I have also written to surrogacyadvisory@gmail.com (surrogacyadvisory@gmail.com) address but would appreciate any help you folks can provide us. My contact number is 0438 985 909 and I can PM someone if that is a better way.

Fingers crossed.

Regards Maneesh

[djjk]

Maheesh
We were in the same position as you as my wife can't carry so have made arrangements for overseas surrogacy. At present we are in Bombay and are hoping all goes well.

I strongly recommend you consider dr kadam at corion clinic in Bombay. She understands the ivf/surrogacy field very well and has been extremely professional. She has only just started out at corion, but previously worked at rotundra, where she gained alot of experience. She has a number of glowing references from other Aussie couples.

We aren't too worried about bringing a baby back as the baby would have our genes and therefore will be clearly our child according to the Indian birth certificate - not to mention the fact that we aren't breaking the law given we have entered into the arrangement before 1 march. If serious and dont want to break the law (If you really care anyway - let's face it, it's an idiotic law that no court would lock you up for) suggest coming over here, signing the contract and paying the deposit before 1 march.

India is an amazing country and so are the people so I wish you all the best. Respond to this thread with any more questions so others can see.

Cheers
Jk

[wlee9462]

Hi,
I have also heard the same thing about Dr. Kadam in Corion in Mumbai; we were going to go with her too; but ended up having embryo transport issues.
We have no idea whether the situation has been resolved or not as yet.
You may also want to consider Thailand?
Feel free to PM me if u like ?
-wlee9462-

[djjk]

We considered Thailand, but scrapped it becasuse of they don't recognize the genetic parents as the parents on the birth certificate. I could be wrong but I think that is still the case.

We looked at shipping our embryos with medair (as we still had eggs from ivf) but it was going to cost about 3k, and we had come to Bombay anyway to sign the initial contracts so are just doing an egg collection here. Perhaps from 1 march we won't be able to ship embryos though? Wheel- I wish you all the best with sending your embies. I really hope you can get them sent. Are you sure that dr kadam can't help? My wife seems to think she can as someone she has been in contact with had her embroyoes shipped to corion.

If there's anything you want me to find out while in Mumbai pls let me know. Surrogacy in Oz might be another option if you can find someone? Remember that post menopausal women can carry also.

[maneesh5880]

Dear Wlee9462,
Thanks for your reply. I was able to speak to Dr. Kadam in person yesterday and she advised that the import of embryos to India is an issue currently which she expects will be resolved by end of February.

She also said she will send us a contract shortly which we can sign so that we can avoid the NSW legislation from 1st of March.

I wanted to know if this standard contract is ok to sign or we should get a lawyer check it? I guess it has to be a lawyer in India since it is an Indian contract?

Anyways we are very excited and amazed by the amount of guidence given to us in the past 2 days.

Regards Maneesh

[maneesh5880]

Dear Jk,
Thanks for your reply. I was able to speak with Dr. Kadam yesterday evening and she knew about this NSW legislation as she had received few quries about it. She will send me a contract soon which we can sign and basically enter into a contract prior to the 1st of March.

Then once the import of embryos issue is resolved (she expects by end FEB), we can send the 4 frozen emb to her.

Seems to me a very straight forward process but do I need to get that contract checked by a lawyer here or just sign it? Any suggestions?

Thank a lot folks.

[djjk]

Depends on the questions you want answered by the lawyer? Im sure they'll agree that by entering into the contract with an agency before March 1st you'll be ok and free from prosecution, but they may be able to assist with making sure that what you have done is sufficient. ie signed, paid and found a surrogate?

We saw Craddock Murray Neumann Lawyers in Sydney about the NSW law when it was announced for some peace of mind. They were very helpful and had a good understanding of these aspects of family/surrogacy law. Not sure if they are specialists on contracts or not but can't hurt to ask.

[Sarix12]

Hi Manessh

We have used Dr Kadam's clinic twice and signed contracts without the need of a lawyer. This is because the contract is not written in 'legalese' ... It is very straightforward and easy to understand. Basically it sets out what the expectations are of the clinic, the surrogate and yourselves.

We wondered this also before we had seen the contract as we were expecting a very legal contract, however it is not like this at all.

Take care and good luck

[AmaniWA]

Hi all

There is no issue getting embryos into Delhi. The problem was isolated to a few cases in Mumbai. I work for a clinic in Delhi (SCI Healthcare) and we regularly receive embryos and sperm through a company called Core Cryolabs. The last shipment got through just last week and we have more on the way. Donnie's advice about there being an India-wide ban is incorrect.

If you wanted to use a clinic in Mumbai it is possible to ship through Delhi customs and then organise on shipment down to Mumbai.

Sending embryos is an expensive option and FET has a much lower chance of success, so if you can swing it, go to India and do a fresh cycle.

Amani (Meg)

[djjk]

This org are holding an event to assist people going through surrogacy.
Australian Families Through Gestational Surrogacy
Monday, 28 February 2011, 18:00 - 20:00
Sydney Surrogacy Forum
Wesley Conference Centre 220 Pitt St, Sydney
Monday 28 Feb, 6 - 8pm

[eagle]

Hello
I am from Israel and have frozen embryos that i have to send to Mumbai India.
As you know I can not ship them to Mumbai because the custom in Mumbai does not allow me to enter them to Mumbai.
I read at the forum that there is an option to send the container with the frozen embryos to Delhi and from there to send them to Mumbai.
With which cargo company can I do that?
Regard
Ron

[wlee9462]

HI Amani,
I am intersted in shipping embryos to Mumbai and would like to know how do I go about doing that? Who should I contact first? Dr. Kadam in Mumbai told me only a few weeks ago and sending e bryos to Mumbai is still a problem.
Please help.
Thank you.
-wlee9462-

[maneesh5880]

Hi Wlee9462,
I am delighted to report that we have successfully shipped embryos from Sydney to Mumbai last week and they are now safely stored at the Corion labs in Mumbai. We contacted Andy from Medair, who arranged for the whole transport process end to end for us. They had also come up with a way to go around the issue at Mumbai customs.

Please reach out to me if you have any questions.

Andy's email is - ajd@medair.ca

All the very best.

Regards

[wlee9462]

Hi Maneesh,

Thanks for posting that. I am very glad your embryo transport was successful! Good luck with the rest of the cycle. I would love to know how you fare.
Please PM or post ... BEST BEST wishes to you both.

-wlee9462-:smiliedance:

[wlee9462]

HI Maneesh?
How are you going with surrogacy? My best wishes go to you and your other half. Hope all is well.
Would love to hear from u soon and get your view on the process :-)
-wlee9462-

[djjk]

Happy to help anyone on this. My wife and I are in India picking up our baby born through a surrogate. This was our last option as my wife cant carry.
We signed before the law was changed on 1 March so arent criminals as such but i know of a number of people still going through with indian surrogacy - people are still willing to take a chance in order to have children. Whether its moving to another state or just taking the risk (probly not advisable). The clinics in india will still support you. The law is a state one. Immigration etc is a commonwealth law. The ban applies only to NSW/QLD residents but this wont affect getting all the paperwork sorted to get bub home under cth law, and from the indian side. Both parties dont care and we havent faced a single question about being NSW residents. If anyone has questions or wants to know more Im happy to help. This law is so idiodic and im keen to support others to successfully have children who cant make it work the natural way.

[djjk]

Im more than happy to help anyone on this. My wife and I are in India picking up our baby born through a surrogate. This was our last option as my wife cant carry. Just going through the paperwork now to get bub home. Its not too bad will be here for about 4 weeks from arrival to getting home - once birth cert obtained, citizenship, passport and bubs exit visa sorted. Just need a good local lawyer (to navigate the indian bureacracy), a good clinic (Dr Kadam at Corion is amazing) and patience. A fair bit of cash is a must - we've spent 35-40k in total for both trips here including travel, clinic, hospital fees - everything.

We signed before the law was changed on 1 March so arent criminals as such but i know of a number of people still going through with indian surrogacy - people are still willing to take a chance in order to have children. Whether its moving to another state or just taking the risk (probly not advisable). The clinics in india will still support you. The law is a state one. Immigration etc is a commonwealth law. The ban applies only to NSW/QLD residents but this wont affect getting all the paperwork sorted to get bub home under cth law, and from the indian side. Both parties dont care and we havent faced a single question about being NSW residents. If anyone has questions or wants to know more Im happy to help. This law is so idiodic and im keen to support others to successfully have children who cant make it work the natural way.

[Sarix12]

Congratulations on your wonderful delivery, that is wonderful news and very inspiring to us all heading on this journey.

We have gone with an egg donor and surrogate at Corion and have received our BFP.... 9 years after we started our journey and am ecstatic, but we have a long way to go yet I know but it is wonderful result.

I would love to know whether there are any forums that you know of that deal with surrogacy in Mumbai, Ive come across a few but they are generally about Delhi and I would love to find one that shares information on the process in Mumbai, as the info available for those travelling to Delhi is amazing, not so much about the clinics used per se but about accomm, shops for baby gear, FRRO info etc.

Take care and enjoy your new addition. :celebrate:

[djjk]

Im happy to help with as much info re mumbai, the procesd and even recommendations for placed to travel (eg went to goa, kerala, rahjastan and all amazing) while your here. Anothet aust lady emailed us all the info on the process you could need. Pls pm me your email address and ill get my wife to forward to you

[mummykitty]

Tammy perhaps starting your own thread would be a good idea as you seem to have posted the same thing over other people's threads alot and I believe their threads are supposed to be about them :)

[emc70]

Hi djjk, I sent you private message asking you to email me because I have some questions to ask regarding Corion.
Thank you

[emc70]

Hi djjk, I sent you private message asking you to email me because I have some questions to ask regarding Corion.
Thank you

[jo-anne.36]

hi djjk i have sent you pm too thanks jojo