View Full Version : HELP 9 week old sleep at night has regressed - waking hourly after 12am!
Hi all, looking for any and all advice. Here is our situation.
My DD is 9.5 weeks old, she has never been a fantastic sleeper particularly during the day but at until a couple of weeks ago she was going down to sleep between 6-8pm and sleeping till between 2-4am feeding then sleeping for at least another 2 hours but normally awake by 6-6.30am.
In the last two weeks she is still going down well around 6-8pm but only sleeping till 12-1am and then is waking every hour or so after that through to her feed at 6am. I will feed her at her mid-night wake and then again another 3-4 hours later and then normally start her day with a feed around 6-7am (trying to start a day routine).
It has been particularly bad in the last week and she has woken twice crying in pain I suspect from either silent reflux or wind. I am seeing a Paediatrician on Tuesday regarding the silent reflux as I suspect she has it. My GP prescribed losec for reflux but we have not used it due to it being difficult to administer but has anyone else found sleep improved once using this ?
We tried dreamfeeding a couple of times but found she didn't sleep any longer, do you need to do it for a longer period before seeing results such as a week or so ?
She was a failure to thrive baby and is now bottle fed with EBM and formula and I worry that she still doesn't drink enough as by now she is meant to be on 150ml of formula but rarely drinks more than 125ml and often only 80-90mls at a time...
Any tips for getting her to sleep better or longer ?
Yep sounds like reflux or wind. My DD was diagnosed at 1.5 weeks. She would scream from 8 pm until 4 am. She started on losec 10 mg as prescribed by our paed. Yes i know what you mean about administering the losec. Crushing tablets desolving it in boiled water ... then getting it into them.. we did this for our first script and mind you DD did get used to it and took in no worries after awhile, until a friend who is a midwife told me to go to a compounding chemist and they will make the liquid losec up which they did. Far easier, and they also thickened it so she didn't gag on it.
You don't need the script to say 'liquid' they can still prescribe it from the tablet script. Our DD still wakes at night if she has bad wind, as she did last night. The losec can also make them windy and snottie! However we are still getting alot more sleep than previously with DDs 'usual' bedtime routine being down at 6 pm up again at 12-1230 for a feed then up again at 4-430 then up again at 730. With approx 3x1 hour sleeps in the day sometimes longer ie 2-2.5 hours if you are lucky!
Good luck and hopefully your paed can shed some light on things for you
My bub used to sleep from 7pm to 1-2am, then wake 2 - 3 hourly after that. we introduced a dream feed 3 weeks ago, and found it would only get her through to 3am. thought it was a big waste of time since she would sleep till 2am without one of us having to feed her at 1030. But for the last week shes been making it to 4am, and last night made it to 515! She did have a few restless nights, crying out inbetween feeds but only for a minute or so, then back to sleep for atleast an hour. Im so glad i stuck with the dreamfeed now as she is sleeping longer and longer and i supspect in a week or two will be making it all the way through the night.
As for how much she drinks, is she gaining weight normally? if so i wouldnt worry as some bubs drink alot more/less then others. Also how many bottles a day do you give her? when i first put DD on bottles she would have 7-8 a day and only drink half of them but how many mls she was consuming was consistent with how much she should be having a day (give or take 50ml) My DD is supposed to be on 180mls a feed, but sometimes drinks as little as 80mls (thats at usually at her 3-5am feed and have found this is actually a good sign, showing they dont need a big feed in the middle of the night and are closer to sleeping through :thumbsup: ) i always put 210 mls or formula in each bottle an let her drink as much or as little as she wants. Do you burp your DD half way through the bottle? Sometimes my DD will pull off after 80mls, burp, and flat out refuse another drop. But after changing her nappy and giving her a 10min break or maybe another burping she'll finish the bottle.
As for the crying in pain. Is she 'crying', or 'calling out'? I just went to check on DD who is having her afternoon nap because she screamed, very high pitched, and found her with a big grin on her face watching shaddows move across her wall. But i do find during the night she will wake up with a scream if shes a. doing a poo, or b.needs another burp (sometimes i get 5 out of her, put her to bed and pick her up an hour later and get another HUGE one. One of the joys of bottle feeding hey!)
Thanks Girls, Lionheart good to hear your dreamfeed experience, I am going to try it properly for at least a week, even getting her sleeping consistently till 3am would be good and your story gives me faith to try it! I will have to set my alarm as her sleeping is so bad lately that I am falling asleep by 9pm!
She is gaining on average 100g per week, it wasn't that much early on but seems to have settled. My paed said that is OK but not great but I really struggle to even get 120mls into her. Some night feeds she only takes 80 or 90mls...I do up 150mls as i am trying to encourage her to get to being able to take that much. We have to use gaviscon otherwise she throws up in her bed which wakes her up.
During the day I feed her and she takes 60-80mls then let her play for 30 mins then try and get her to drink the rest. At night its more difficult as I dont like to change her as it wakes her up too much and she only tends to do poos during the day anyway.
She tends to call out at night, mainly I think because she wakes up and realise her dummy has fallen out making me wish we never introduced the dummy but it was recommended because of the suspected reflux...
I will try burping her for longer at night to see if that helps. have you used infants friend, I use it sometimes when she is unsettled after a feed.
Nar, havent given her anything. The paed at the hospital on mon asked me if i wanted to give her anything for her reflux but i said no. Even though it is a pain when she throws up on everything its getting so much better (i used to be changing her bedsheets nightly - big pain at 4am) so we sleept her upright in her bouncer for a few weeks (put the bouncer in her cot though so she was still used to sleeping in her room) shes only just gone back to lying flat in her cot to sleep, she still 'posits' alot after feeds but it doesnt seem to bother her at all and shes stopped throwing up in bed so im reluctant to give her anything now. She'll grow out of it eventually :) coz shes been like it since day one i didnt realise how 'uncommon' it was for babies to posit so much till 2 paed's, and 3 nurses commented on it :confused: goodluck with your dreamfeed, interested to hear how it goes.
DD made it to 630am wed morning!!! :D but she was up at 430am thur morning and 3am this morning :confused: I just brought her a room thermometer and it was 15 degrees both times she woke early (was 18 degress when she went to bed) so i put a few extra blankets on her and gave her her dummie. she was quiet for 30mins but started calling out again, went in and felt the back of her neck/face and she was still cold so i fed her anyway (figured she needed a nice warm bottle and a cuddle to warm up :))
Do you give bub a dummie when she goes to bed? have you tried putting her to bed without it (lots of cuddles till shes really sleepy then putting her down insted) this is how i got DD used to going to sleep without one, and i only give it too her when shes having difficulty re-settling (or if she wakes before 7am) as shes getting better at resettling im having to give it to her less and less (yesterday only gave it to her that once at 3am)
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