jonbenet

[*Chels*]

I saw on Sunrise this morning that they have arrested a man in Bangkok in relation to paedophile charges and they think it was him that killed jonbenet ramsey.
He lived in the same area in colorado when she was killed,and apparantly was sending emails to patsy ramsay before she died.
I really hope that they have found the right guy and hes put away forever and the family can finally have some closure!

[Lirael]

I agree!!! its been so long you must get to the point where you give up.(her parents i mean) i was convinced they would never find him. ppl like that dont deserve to live:mad:

[subaruforestermum]

I just think it's sad that if it is him who killed jonbenet ramsay, that her mum wasn't around to see them find the killer and see him serve life for what he did to her family.....

[Karizma]

I saw it too... I just about tripped over the computer chair trying to get to the T.V. :laughing: I hope they lock him up for good. It's been 10 yrs, so I can imagine it will be closure for the parents especially because of the suspicion surrounding her death about the parents involvement :o

[Mrs AJC]

How horrible for those parents to lose their precious little girl in such a violent and horrendous way, to only then be persecuted for their actions when they found her (what parent wouldn't pick up their child if found in the same way?) and for 10 years. Now Patsy has died and never seen her child's real murderer brought to justice. I really feel sick when I think about what that family went through, and being accused of doing it to their own daughter - it makes me want to cry.

[Missus S]

About a month ago in the newspaper here there was a really good & long article (extracted from a book I think) discussing this case. It was so interesting - some things you read about made the parents look so guilty & other things you read about other suspects made them look so guilty.

I read online that Patsy Ramsey was aware that police were close to an arrest before she died which is nice to know.

A bit like the Azaria case isn't it............you have to deal with tragically losing your child and then also be accused of being the ones who did it.

[Mamaduke]

I've never thought that the Ramsays had anything to do with the murder of their child.
At least Patsy would have died knowing that her conscience was clear.
If the Boulder Police had of done their job properly, instead of just looking at the parents, this could have been solved a long time ago.


Police say he was under investigation for an unrelated sex crime, but was arrested after confessing to previously unreleased details surrounding the six-year-old's death.
CBS reported that the suspect, a second-grade teacher, would be brought returned to the United States this weekend.

Apparently the Ramsays knew of a potential suspect before Patsy died.

[Niki]

the poor family its about time they get some closure and after all they have been throu too, how awful would it be if ppl suppected you for doing that to your own daughter

[the_queen]

On a cynical note: will it actually end the speculation, though? I, co-incidentally, was looking at my favourite "true crime" website the other day and followed a link to a jonbenet website, and there are literally thousands and thousands of sites completely devoted to this case. I have never had a clear-cut idea either way about who did it (certainly some of the parents' behaviour seemed suspicious) but even if this guy confesses and pleads guilty - will the speculation ever end?

[Mum&bubs]

My sister called me up this morning telling me about this news. I think it is fantastic that the mongrel has finally been found. I just wish Jonbenet's mother had been around to see it but shes with her daughter now. I never thought their family had anything to do with it. I remember they tried to blame it on every family member even her brother who was only 11 years old!

[jessgray]

i think its sad her mum isnt alive to see the man be put behind bars :(
at least jonbenet's family will get closure

[Mamaduke]

Breaking news...


HE'S CONFESSED!


John Mark Carr/Karr, the man who was arrested today has just come before a court in Thailand and confessed to killing Jonbenet Ramsay - he 'says' it was an accident.

[the_queen]

How do you accidentally garotte a 6 yr old baby :mad: :mad:

:crying:

[KarniF00l]

How do you accidentally garotte a 6 yr old baby :mad:

:crying:

I would post a link that i found when i googled garotte but it's way too disturbing :mad: :crying:

[jessgray]

how does one "accidentally" (sp?) kill a child?

if he uses that as a defence :mad: it will make me so mad. jonbenet would be going on 17 this yr as my brother was the same age as her when she died :( she never got to go to high school or get to drive her own car or have a bf. that man robbed her family of a irreplaceable person and also took away the future from them.

[bearsmummy]

That just makes me feel so sad :gloomy: , that he has caused so much turmoil for this poor family and hurt such an innocent child and gotten away scott free.... until now! :mad:
I wonder what will happen to him when he is flown back to the USA and what kind of sentence he will get?

[KarniF00l]

So many sick ppl out there :barf: Is there a climate in these kinda ppl ? or is the media making it more well known ? Soon we'll have to lock our children in the house :thumbsdown:

[subaruforestermum]

The thing I think is terribly wrong, is that the reason I have heard on the news as to why he confessed is so that he doesn't have to serve out his jail time for his criminal offences in Thailand, as the jails are better in the US...... Although I think he should be prosecuted for his actions, I dont believe he should get to chose the conditions he lives out the rest of his life in.....In my views he is scum, and should be charged with the murder then send back to thailand to rott in their jails for the rest of his pathetic life.....

Just my view.......

[jessgray]

i heard he was arrested in thailand on pedo charges is that correct?

[Karizma]

Yes I heard on the news that he was arrested for seperate paedophile charges. Makes you wonder doesnt it, if he just confessed to get to get to go to a US jail :confused:

[jessgray]

if i was george bush i would demand that the man serve out both sentences in a thia prison
:D that would be punishment enough

[Mamaduke]

I posted a thread on Patsy when she died and I'm just wondering what the members who used that thread to attack the parents think now?
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=26887&highlight=jonbenet+mother

[LA62]

I posted a thread on Patsy when she died and I'm just wondering what the members who used that thread to attack the parents think now?
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=26887&highlight=jonbenet+mother


MMM be very interesting to see:yes:

Why has it taken 10 years to find out if he was known to the family...if this is the case im sure i heard on the news:confused:

[CarolineF]

I suppose its called a persons right to their own opinions. Whether right or wrong...which noone could actually say at the time...everyone has a right to them and to comment. It would be a very sad day if that was unable to happen.

On another note, this man still has to be convicted and sentenced, the number of false confessions made for a variety of reasons is high and has occurred in some legendary cases.

i hope the right man has been caught for everyone's sake.

[grubindi]

just saw on the late news that the 31 year old who did it is flying back to the usa to stand trial.he claimed it was an abduction gone wrong and that he loved the girl. (he had his pants pulled up like urkal so he will probably plead insanity) hopefully he gets the death penalty

[Mamaduke]

Is it true that he lived next door to the Ramsays?
If so, how could the Boulder Police have missed him?
Oh...that's right, it was that 'umbrella of suspicion' they kept beating the Ramsay family with that distracted them from the real killer.

[SamanthaJane]

This story is so horrible :crying:

I wish the mother knew the outcome before she died. She deserved the closure.

What a disgusting man. I hope he is never allowed to walk the streets again :barf:

[reAllytee]

I just wish Patsy had been alive to see him brought to justice but then maybe its better she doesnt have to go through all the stress & reality of the trial.

May he burn in hell.

[SamanthaJane]

I posted a thread on Patsy when she died and I'm just wondering what the members who used that thread to attack the parents think now?
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=26887&highlight=jonbenet+mother

Just finished reading your thread...

very very interesting to look at now

[CarolineF]

I do not want to dampen anybody's enthusiasm here, but he has not been convicted and in an interview i have just seen on the UK BBC the DA in the US is not making any assumptions on his guilt yet notwithstanding his "confession". This man's admissions so far hardly amount to a full and frank confession. The DA and police and FBI will want far more detail and will have info that they held back in the original investigation that they will expect him to know.

I am erring on the side of caution after seeing the reaction from people towards the man arrested for the murder of that little girl in Perth a few weeks ago. Seriously erroneous information was being put about as fact.

It will be interesting to see how all of this unfolds. None of the parties in this case have come out of this very well over the years, from the police's peculiar investigation to the parents' hiding behind their lawyers.

whatever happens, it will not bring that little girl back. I doubt this case will ever gain "closure" as the americans put it!!!

[SilverStarfish]

Yes I heard on the news that he was arrested for seperate paedophile charges. Makes you wonder doesnt it, if he just confessed to get to get to go to a US jail :confused:

I was thinking exactly that... Jail in Thailand is not a nice place. But then, I don't know about America, but jail in Australia is not a happy place for child killers either.

Either way, I hope he gets whats coming to him :yes:

[luckymama]

i was almost :barf: when i heard that he admitted drugging her and raping her. And so so angry, when he said he "accidently" killed her, how can you accidentially garrotte someone. :barf: I am so sorry for her parents that they had to go through this. I am sure the guy will get convicted tho, cos i also heard on the news he admitted things to the police that only the killer would know.
It is great that jonbenets mother knew that an arrest was going to be made before she died, she would have had some kind of closure about the whole thing, and its good now that the world can see that her parents were innocent. Its just unfortunate that the sicko was not caught when it happened. :banghead:
RIP Jonbenet Ramsey

[Areca]

Apparently he was sending Patsy emails about the murder that had info in it that was never released to the public. He had been sending the emails for the past 4 years. Makes you wonder why it took 4 years to catch him but it does sound like they caught the right man. What a sicko! Does he look creepy to anyone else or is it just me?
They are also going to use DNA to confirm that he is the killer.

[luckymama]

god i hope he gets the death penalty. Do they use it in colorado? does anyone know?

[Mamaduke]

It made my skin crawl to hear that maggot declaring, "I loved JonBenet!"

[Mum&bubs]

It made my skin crawl to hear that maggot declaring, "I loved JonBenet!"

Mine too :mad: What a freak! He has a strange way of showing his love doesnt he? I hope the US men give him whats coming to him in jail!

[luckymama]

yeah me too it was gross :barf:

[SamanthaJane]

Another thing that disgusts me is that he has been working with children for ages... :barf:

here is a quote from his resume :


Private teacher/caregiver
Germany, 2 girls aged 5 and 8, boy, 10.
I helped the 8 year old with her homework each day. At day's end i made sure the children had their bath, then put them to bed.

I hope to God he did not harm those children in any way.

I can't see how people can think his still innocent. Police have been tracking him for ages. He was emailing Michael Tracey (the guy who produced the documentary Who Killed JonBenet) with details about the murder that were so distinct only the killer themself or police would be able to describe.

So either he was just standing there watching the whole murder take place, or it was him that killed her.

[luckymama]

he admitted to drugging her and raping her, and "accidentally" (my a*s) killing her :mad:

[*Chels*]

I saw him on TV and he sent shivers down my spine.Something about him is just creepy.Plus the baggy shirt and pants pulled up to his armpits made him look stupid.I cant believe he said the death was accidental!:confused:

[luckymama]

yeah garrotting someone can be accidental, hmm yeah right!

[SamanthaJane]

I am by no means sticking up for that "thing" known as Jon Mark Karr, but i think when he says the murder was accidental, i thought perhaps it meant he never intended to kill her. Like it wasn't pre-meditated in a sense. So not like "oh i accidentialy strangled her" but perhaps after assaulting her he felt like he had to kill her. If you know what i mean? :confused:

His a sicko, and he was more than likely obsessed with her. I doubt murdering her was his main intention... as sick as this sounds, i think his intentions were just to sexually assault her....

Im going to stop there, its making me feel sick and upset.

[Bessie]

I get what you mean Samantha :crying:
It's disturbing that he could do what he did and still have these bizarre feelings towards her.
I remember watching a documentary in the UK about this murder and it was truly creepy. He broke into the house and probably hid under her bed for the right time, I watched it in tears and probably should have turned the TV off. I still check all the doors and windows before I turn in, I know this kind of thing is rare, but it makes you not want to take any chances.

[Bexta]

yeah garrotting someone can be accidental, hmm yeah right!

I don't think it was an accident... maybe somthing along the lines of that fettish where they asphixyate(sp?) to increase sexual gratification?

Maybe he didn't mean to go that far (not sticking up for him...:no: ). Don't quote me on this, but I'm sure I read somewhere years ago that the person responsible tried to revive her & that's why the suspision was directed at the parents???

[luckymama]

I don't think it was an accident... maybe somthing along the lines of that fettish where they asphixyate(sp?) to increase sexual gratification?

This only applies to the person actually trying to get the sexual pleasure on themselves.

[luckymama]

Don't quote me on this, but I'm sure I read somewhere years ago that the person responsible tried to revive her & that's why the suspision was directed at the parents???

I never heard this but i guess it is possible, i am sure we will hear more about it though

[zenifa]

I do not want to dampen anybody's enthusiasm here, but he has not been convicted and in an interview i have just seen on the UK BBC the DA in the US is not making any assumptions on his guilt yet notwithstanding his "confession". This man's admissions so far hardly amount to a full and frank confession. The DA and police and FBI will want far more detail and will have info that they held back in the original investigation that they will expect him to know.


It will be interesting to see how all of this unfolds. None of the parties in this case have come out of this very well over the years, from the police's peculiar investigation to the parents' hiding behind their lawyers.

whatever happens, it will not bring that little girl back. I doubt this case will ever gain "closure" as the americans put it!!!

I have to agree with Caroline on this one, although it is great that an arrest has been made and its a shame JonBenet's mother died without finding out who killed her daughter - the latest news on this case is that it may turn out to be 'a false confession' and we must remember that a man is innocent until proven guilty. I would like there to be some justice for the Ramsey family but lets not jump the gun here, if he is in fact responsible, hopefully he will be convicted and punished accordingly.

[subaruforestermum]

Just wondering if anyone else had heard, when the case first began, that the little girl acctually had vaginal scaring....which means it could have happened on various occasions before she was killed...

As I stated early on in the ppost, although if this is the guy, I hope he gets what he deserves, but he could have said it just to get into a US jail.....although jails aren't nice places to be fullstop, they are worse in Thailand...

[the_queen]

I did read on a US news site, that in his confession, he said he'd picked her up from school before killing her in the basement. Um, it happened on Christmas night, while the parents were asleep!
I also read that his ex-wife (who immediately left him a few years ago when he was arrested for posession of child pornography) has given him an alibi for that Christmas night. The ex-wife has also said that he is obsessed with the JonBenet case, obsessed to the point of delusion.


Maybe he's just trying to get home to the US so he doesn't have to go to a Thai jail.
Maybe he's mentally ill and is loving all this attention.


I hope I'm wrong, I hope this is the ******* who did it and I hope he rots in jail. I had suspected the parents in the past, but now I'm glad that JonBenet has her mummy with her in heaven.

[luckymama]

oh i so hope this isnt the case, it would be so great to get the person responsible to be rotting in jail.

[*Chels*]

The whole confession thing is pretty suss.I dont know if they have the right guy.If hes lying,hes just a stupid,sick *******:mad:

[Niki]

The whole confession thing is pretty suss.I dont know if they have the right guy.If hes lying,hes just a stupid,sick *******:mad:

yes i think so too

[MummyCharmzy]

Sadly I think hes lying, I wish he was telling the truth but it doesnt seem possible now. I hope they get the right person eventually, hopefully sooner rather than later... :(

[Missus S]

You'd think with all the bungling by police in this case in the past...........that they would get it right and were certain he is the killer. Surely there must be some other evidence apart from his confession that made them act..........the DNA under JonBenet's fingernails perhaps.

I suppose time will tell.

She was such a pretty little girl when you saw images of her naturally............but it was so foul to see these ridiculous images of her dressed up. RIP JonBenet...........I hope there is some justice for you in the end.

[SamanthaJane]

I just seen an ad on tv that the movie version of jonbenet's murder is on this weekend... on prime/seven on saturday or sunday (sorry can't remember... pregnancy brain:rolleyes:)

[*Chels*]

I just seen an ad on tv that the movie version of jonbenet's murder is on this weekend... on prime/seven on saturday or sunday (sorry can't remember... pregnancy brain:rolleyes:)

Saturday on 7 at 8.30 I believe