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2SPUNKRATZ
15-08-2006, 22:45
hes been crying for an hour now, screaming, i gave him panadol thinking maybe it was teething, given him cuddles, put him down, changed him, i feel at a total loss. what could it be. help!!!!

Elfin
15-08-2006, 22:47
It could be wind and it might be in the bowels, I know when mine just screamed for no good reason it was often just wind. I am sorry I am no real help and just hope your little guy feels better soon.

hillbaby5
15-08-2006, 22:49
does he have wind ? try massaging his tummy is his tummy tight ? my boys were bad with wind
good luck

mumma_jessy
15-08-2006, 22:51
Oh no, poor little man!

I had a few nights like this with DD and never found out what was the problem!

Try a shower with him, that always calmed mine down enough to get them to sleep eventually. Do you have a sling or something you can put him in? That was my god-send with my DD.

I guess, burping and rubbin his little tummy if you think it might be wind or something could help too, lie him on his tummy on your lap?

I hope you get him to sleep for you eventually, sorry i can't be more help!

2SPUNKRATZ
15-08-2006, 22:51
he is inconsolable. he is only 4 months old. he doesnt seem windy. but i touched his tummy and he screamed louder.

Elfin
15-08-2006, 22:53
Have you got a front carrier he might settle in that if you go for a walk around the house. Your poor little boy

filmgirlgail
15-08-2006, 22:56
Could it be colic? My DD had this for a couple of months every night from 5-9ish. It helped when I lay her face down on my arm, if you get what I mean, so her head was by my elbow and I held her bottom in my hand and rocked her that way

Hope you can figure out something :hugs:

hillbaby5
15-08-2006, 22:57
it might be wind in his bowels one thing that worked for me is to hol him with his back against your chest pull his legs up to his chest so he is in a c shape walk around while patting his bum it sound complicated but its not and it always works for me even w friends babies and my 4mth old niece a maternal nurse told me about this when I had a bad night with my first son make sure you take deep calm breaths and try singing or humming or talking softly to calm himdown
let me know how you go

mrsd
15-08-2006, 22:57
Wind ? Constipation (nothing you can do about it really) ? Colic ?

Perhaps a teaspoonful of cooled boiled water might help (and won't hurt) if it's wind.

A nice warm bath and massage with oil ?

I agree with the other suggestions, M2M. You know your baby better then we do. If none of your usual settling techniques work and he really seems to be in pain you might need to take him to Casualty for a quick (?) checkup.

Good luck - I hope he settles for you soon.

our little treasures
15-08-2006, 23:04
Try giving a warm bath as my dd had terrible colic and screamed for hours.. Another suggestion is see if he wants a feed, I noticed he was a bigger baby my lil man was 9pnd 14ounces and he would scream for a feed and it took us ages to figure out that he was just demanding an extra feed....

I hope he settles soon it can be sooo sad when babies cry and you have no idea why..

elissas
15-08-2006, 23:18
It's very possible that it's wind. I saw your post in the Breastfeeding section about his recent feeding habits, and it sounds like the "snacking" that my DS does.

If he's only having short, frequent feeds then he's mostly getting foremilk, which contains more lactose than the hindmilk (it's the sugary watery milk). It doesn't fill him up enough, so he needs more frequent feeds, and when he has too much lactose it gets dumped in the bowels and fills them with wind. If he's been snacking all day then the wind has built up and up until it reaches critical, then the screaming begins because all the wind's trapped.

I lie DS on his back and tilt his pelvis up, massaging his lower back. After doing that a couple of minutes I lift up his legs, almost like i'm folding him in half. Quite often he'll fart loudly. The other thing I do is lie down next to him and just hold his legs up loosely.

Gripe water is also fantastic and provides very quick relief.

If he's snacking you need to discourage it and get him off the excess foremilk (my DS gets hooked on it!). For the next couple of days express a little before each feed to take out some of the foremilk - so he gets to the hindmilk quicker. Or, if you can give him ebm, express a couple of feeds that are almost entirely hindmilk (so do all the expressing straight after a feed). Give him that feed in the afternoon before he gets upset - you may be amazed at how different, and how satisfied he is after it!!

I also found holding him up over my shoulder, with his belly pressed against my shoulder helped him. The pressure seemed to soothe it.

Good luck!

2SPUNKRATZ
15-08-2006, 23:37
ok so gave him a bath, he was calm until i redressed him. what next, i am trying laying him across my legs now and patting

~EmsMum~
16-08-2006, 08:00
poor little bloke
i hope he is feeling better
:hugs:

wattle
16-08-2006, 08:14
Oh dear poor little thing. It sounds like you're doing the right things, not that it helps much when they're screaming.

If you need the Health nurse number its 1300 60 60 24..... just in case.

When did he last have a pooey nappy?

elissas
16-08-2006, 08:15
Probably waaay too late, but if he was calm in the bath I'd give him another one. And then another one...

Just make sure the bathroom is warm.

Also maybe try skin to skin cuddles after the bath, put a chair in the bathroom, dry him off and then cuddle him against your bare skin.

As I said - probably too late no, but if it happens again... :hugs:

Sara's Boys
16-08-2006, 08:17
I had this happen to me when Ds was about 4-5 months, uit was so out of his usual charater, I ended up taking him to the Drs only to find he had an ear infection. Maybe if he doesn't calm down you should just take him to get a cheack, especially if it's not like him..good luck. It's so hard when they are that upset, and when you can
't take it away for them. This week my son had a virus and he was so sad and screamiong for 4-5 days, I was at the end of my tether by day 3 and had to ask my mum to come over so I could have a sleep.

2SPUNKRATZ
16-08-2006, 09:47
hey all, thanks os much for your support. i still dont knowwhat was wrong with him. DF got him to fall asleep about midnight. i think he crashed from sheer exhaustion. then he slept till 9am. woooooot!! if he gets like it again i may take him to the dr.

if he keeps grabbing his ear is that a sign?

~Alicia
16-08-2006, 10:06
:hugs:
I've had soooo many nights like that.


was he arching his back? DD had shocking colic, until mum read an article in a parenting magazine to fix it.

by burping bubs every 40 mls if ff, and I think its every 2/3 mins if bf. that way they don't have a build up at the end of the day.
She started sleeping through after that too :smiliedance:


As far as I know, pulling on the ear means he has an ear infection. but someone has also told me that it means he's teething. don't know if that one's true. If he's still pulling on his ear, a trip to the doctor won't hurt.

Good luck, I hope u don't have another night like that again :D

bindiloo
16-08-2006, 10:25
I was always told pulling on the ear meant teething. But my little girl has nights like this from time to time and its usually always wind, i have to give her a dose of marina infant mixture which makes her burp and get it up but i have to work at it putting her in different positions constantly and if i lay her on the floor and let her cry for awhile she will bring up more and start to calm down eventually till i can see she is tired then i wrap her and cuddle her while rubbing her back and she starts to calm down again and get sleepy so then its back into bed. All the crying tires them out too and they end up having a better sleep after it.
I know how stressfull it is so i really feel for you,i was up last two nights with mine with the wind and it is so exhausting you just want to cry.

2SPUNKRATZ
16-08-2006, 11:36
well, he woke at 9, had a feed went back to sleep and woke at 10.45.
i rubbed his gums and it feels a little sharper in 1 spot. and his cheeks are all rosey. hmmmm, i think i have a teether. he also keeps chapping his gums together. but at least he is smiley today.

~Alicia
16-08-2006, 12:06
awww poor little bugger :)

at least u know what it is then. u can deal with it better now :)

Mischief
16-08-2006, 21:48
Jess - If he is pulling his ear it sounds like teething, but it might pay to get him checked by the Dr....as this can indicate an ear infection too.....

Fingers crossed for lots of clam nights for you! Oliver screamed and screamed last night too....It was heartbreaking! :(

*My Lil Blondie*
16-08-2006, 21:55
i did a course on pressure points when i was at school and we leant that there is actually a pressure point in your earlobes that relate back to your teeth :thumbsup: so in rubbing/pulling his ears he is actually soothing his sore little gums.

Brodie is a shocker for ear pulling!