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Fellow Traveler
29-05-2010, 07:51
Available in English here (http://www.davidwilton.com/files/knmg-viewpoint---circumcision---netherlands.pdf).

Some of their key points include:



There is no convincing evidence that circumcision is useful or necessary in terms of prevention or hygiene. Partly in the light of the complications which can arise during or after circumcision, circumcision is not justifiable except on medical/therapeutic grounds. Insofar as there are medical benefits, such as a possibly reduced risk of HIV infection, it is reasonable to put off circumcision until the age at which such a risk is relevant and the boy himself can decide about the intervention, or can opt for any available alternatives.
Contrary to what is often thought, circumcision entails the risk of medical and psychological complications. The most common complications are bleeding, infections, meatus stenosis (narrowing of the urethra) and panic attacks. Partial or complete penis amputations as a result of complications following circumcisions have also been reported, as have psychological problems as a result of the circumcision.
Non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors is contrary to the rule that minors may only be exposed to medical treatments if illness or abnormalities are present, or if it can be convincingly demonstrated that the medical intervention is in the interest of the child, as in the case of vaccinations.
Non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors conflicts with the child’s right to autonomy and physical integrity.
The KNMG calls on (referring) doctors to explicitly inform parents/carers who are considering non-therapeutic circumcision for male minors of the risk of complications and the lack of convincing medical benefits. The fact that this is a medically non-essential intervention with a real risk of complications makes the quality of this advice particularly important. The doctor must then record the informed consent in the medical file.
The KNMG respects the deep religious, symbolic and cultural feelings that surround the practice of nontherapeutic circumcision. The KNMG calls for a dialogue between doctors’ organisations, experts and the religious groups concerned in order to put the issue of non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors on the agenda and ultimately restrict it as much as possible.
There are good reasons for a legal prohibition of non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors, as exists for female genital mutilation. However, the KNMG fears that a legal prohibition would result in the intervention being performed by non-medically qualified individuals in circumstances in which the quality of the intervention could not be sufficiently guaranteed. This could lead to more serious complications than is currently the case.

So it seems they get closer than anyone else so far to a reasonable position. What do people think?

Pharm
29-05-2010, 18:39
The KNMG respects the deep religious, symbolic and cultural feelings that surround the practice of nontherapeutic circumcision. The KNMG calls for a dialogue between doctors’ organisations, experts and the religious groups concerned in order to put the issue of non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors on the agenda and ultimately restrict it as much as possible.

This is where he Dutch differ from their more Northern neighbours. I'm glad while they are fighting for Anti RIC they are recongnising cultural and religious opinions.

It may be banned in hospitals but by the sounds of things, it will still be made available in clinics for those who have genuine reasoning for the procedure. Sounds good to me, after reading another members post on why her partner wanted their son circ'd, I would prefer it that way, I don't see why parents stupidity and ignorance should see an unnecesary procedure performed on an infant.

Fellow Traveler
29-05-2010, 20:31
I don't see how this policy differs from their northern neighbors attitude. In both cases they reluctantly provide facilities to the minorities who do this. They did get most things right though:

1. Acknowledging the ethics of the issue.

2. Acknowledging the uselessness of the procedure.

3. Making sure that Drs are informing parents of the uselessness and the risks.

4. Overall stating that formal the goal is to reduce the number of procedurs performed annually through education.

Number 4 is an important goal and they've laid out a good path to get there. It is interesting to see the kind of statement that is made when one's mind isn't clouded with cultural baggage.

ETA: Here is a direct link to their site (http://knmg.artsennet.nl/Nieuws/Nieuwsarchief/Nieuwsbericht-1/KNMG-wil-jongensbesnijdenis-ontmoedigen.htm) with the news release and a copy of the statement in Dutch. Those who can't read Dutch can drop the site URL in google translate if they wish; it does a fair job.

serendipity22
31-05-2010, 21:43
Its interesting that panic attacks are mentioned as a complication. Haven't heard of that one before.