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ok so my ds1 has major major behaviour problems. he has ODD and asperger syndrome.
i have considered gluten/dairy free as ive heard some kids with autism respond to this?
but ive decided to try failsafe first as i think preserves etc may be problematic for him.
so im totally overwhelmed by the restrictions and the thought of all the non failsafe food in the pantry etc getting wasted and the enormous cost of switching.
so what ive decided i will do is switch 5-10 foods over to failsafe choices every shop for a few months till i get there. this breaks it up and makes it feel much more acheivable to me.
obviously im aware that by doing it this way i may not see results quickly or even at all but im thinking over a few months the changes will become normal to us, ill get more confident in the choices and recipes etc and hopefully we may see some improvement.
anyway what i want from u guys is the top 5- 10 products i should change????? im assuming bread and milk first but what else? where is all the hidden crap at its worst and thats what ill change first. ive seen the website and its all pretty overwhelming so really just need u guys to tell which butter etc i should get and thats where ill start thanks:goodvibes:
ok so i believe with bread and milk i need to switch to A2 milk and brumbies bread? any bread from brumbies or a specific one?
so im reading the ingredients of the bread i currently buy and i cant see whats not fail safe about:confused: off to a bda start lol. the ingredients are as follows: wheat, flour ,yeast ,vinegar, iodised salt, wheat gluten, canola oil, soy flour, emulsifiers 481 471 472e (all vegetable derived), mineral salt (calcium carbonate), vitamins(thiamin, folic acid) what isnt failsafe:confused:
4OnEarth1InHeaven
03-04-2010, 11:14
:wave: can't help you really, but am interested in reading about this failsafe diet
Dannielle
03-04-2010, 17:55
BREAD
Vinegar is not failsafe and must be avoided, even in small amounts in products such as bread
Whey powder can be cultured with natural propionate (282) preservatives • avoid whey powder in bread and other bakery products • whey powder is okay in non-bakery products such as icecream and yoghurt
Taken from the fed up with food additives website. I'm no expert. We didn't go completely failsafe as we didn't really need to and I found it too hard with 3 to do it for when I did try.
We did a few things which was all we really needed to do here.
Firstly the bread, we do wholemeal bakers delight but I presume most normal breads would be ok from bakers delight or brumbys.
We did go to A2 milk for DD1 & DD3 (DD2 is cows milk protien intolerant) but have since done a trial and think normal milk is ok for them. (Honestly it got too expensive as they love their milk.) And the only other drink was water.
We also try to avoid 160b.
The other major thing we did is made sure nothing had msg in it. It can be called other things too and can be found in so many things. (Avoid 620-625) Also 627, 631 and 635 effect my girls and are found in lots of things but I have found if we avoid things like flavour sachets for noodles, all flavours for chips (plain kettle are the best) and rice crackers in chicken flavours then they seem to be ok so we don't need to avoid all possible things that may have these addivities.
MSG (monosodium glutamate) is normally listed as flavour enhancer 621, but can also be listed as hydrolysed vegetable protein (HVP), hydrolysed plant protein (HPP), 'yeast extract' or even 'natural flavour'. Many products claiming no added MSG will contain ribonucleotides as well as a source of natural glutamates.
But thats just us. Everyone is different.
ETA: The other thing we did is limit their salicylates initially and offered pears as much as possible but found it too hard to remove completely for my fruit LOVING girls.
We noticed changes within a few days. DD1 was acting very moody and emotional last week and I thought it was her age being nearly 11yrs old and thought great we have fun coming. But I do remember thinking she was acting like she does on the odd occassion she has had non failsafe bread but didn't think anything of it. Turns out she swapped half her sandwich with a friend and didn't realise as her friends sandwich seemed healthy. So even one slice of bread can make a noticeable difference if that is a problem for them.
blissfullybonkers
03-04-2010, 18:06
the pear muffin recipe is a winner in my house!
also the chicken stirfry with the meat marinated in golden syrup & garlic :thumbsup:
I'm not super strict on it, but i do buy nuttelex, bakers delight bread, only 'safe' fruit & veg and a few little snacks in the health food sections at the supermarket, I only have the one child though so it's probably a little easier for me!!!
I basically see it as going back to eating how i did as a child, there is wayyyy too much junky pre packaged food around these days!
smileygirl
03-04-2010, 18:14
it does feel scary at first....but it does get easier I promise. And, life with the kids is soooo much better that you find you have more time and energy for the cooking!
Changing to nuttlex, A2 milk, bakers delight or brumby's bread, changing snack over as you run out (we get stuff like kettle chips, arnotts french fries, milk arrowroot biscuits, pascal marshmallows) and i also bake stuff.
Also changing their toast spread to nuttlex and salt (actualy very yummy) or golden syrup an easy one.
Brekky cereal....porriage oats, rice bubbles or special K
I have had good success (no reactions) to mild devondale cheese....although it does have amines.
Find a good butcher :-)
I try 1 recipe at a time...and then add to it. I also always cook extra and freeze in portion sizes....a life saver for busy days :-)
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