When to give nurofen for teething... help!

[portmama]

My 5 month old is getting her first teeth. The first one popped through no signs or probs, but she hasn't got the second yet, but seems to be in pain... i think. She is difficult to settle and crying when she is normally a good baby, easy to sleep. I know all babies go through stages, so how do i tell whether she is in pain, or going through a not-settling stage? When should i give nurofen, because i don't want to give it if not needed... is this harmful for the baby?

[amiee]

have you tried bonjela? maybe try that first.

then if you have tried everything like trying to give her a feed, changing her bum etc, and her cry is different cry to her normal grizzle then maybe try some nurfeon as long as you stick to the recommended dose. they do recommend that you give nurfeon with something in their stomach.

good luck, i hope her little tooth come through soon.

[portmama]

thanks for your reply.
i have tries everything else, but she is still unsettled. she was actually almost asleep a few times, but would start crying really high pitched, this is totally not normal for her.
I gave her the recommended dose of nurofen, with a little feed, and she seemed to settle almost immediately... unsure whether this was the contact or the drugs??
will nurofen harm her if she wasn't actually in pain? i feel like a crap mum, all the posts and info i've read say that you will know the difference in cries, but i can't tell!

[kuddles]

Portamum - don't stress you aren't a bad Mum. It will not harm her as long as you don't give her more than the recommended dose for her age/weight. If it has helped her to sleep than you have done the best you can. Make sure with nurofen you always follow with a feed. That stuff is nasty on an empty tummy.
I think high pitched screams generally mean bub is in pain. DS screams high pitched when he is in pain. Usually wind though.

[amiee]

dont feel like a bad mum, you are doing a great job

i constantly say my son is teething and he is 9 months still with no teeth. its so hard to tell whats wrong with them especially when they wont tell us :rolleyes:

as long as you followed all the directions and bub had food in her tummy i am sure she will be fine. and i am glad it worked so quickly. fingers crossed you both get some sleep tonight.

[SCORPIOGEMINI]

Hi Portmama, when my girls were teething, I used to give them homeopathic disolving tablets, cant remember what they are called sorry, but I bought mine from the chemist, they worked wonders. Perhaps you can give them a try, go to a few chemists and ask if they have homeopathic teething tablets, I think the brand is hermanns not sure??

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[Bellini]

I would be exhausting all homeopathic remedies prior to administering drugs personally. In the event that nothing was working, I might try a bit of panadol, but I wouldn't try nurofen until it was a very last resort. DS has had 6 teeth through so far, with mostly a bit of grizzling to indicate that he is uncomfortable or in pain. He is usually happy with a cool teething ring, to give him something to munch on and soothe the red raw gums.

All babies react differently to being in pain, however I *personally* wouldn't give nurofen if bub was just unsettled/grizzly. Maybe try some cold teething rings, a baltic amber necklace or some homeopathic teething tablets.

Good luck :)

[ally3012]

there is a natural product called 'infants friend' which helps for various things including teething. it is natural and you can give it as often as you like and with other things like nurofen and panadol. if in doubt that is what i use and my dd is almost 10 months old which no teeth. she has been teething since 4 months old, her cousin did the same and didnt get his 1st one til 10.5 months.

[Tam-I-Am]

If you give nurofen, please be VERY careful with it. You need to give it on a full tummy (ie IMMEDIATELY after a feed) and not more often that 8 hourly - no more than 3 doses in a day. It is extremely caustic and can eat a hole in the lining of the stomach, leading to gastritis or an ulcer both of which are EXTREMELY painful (speaking as one who has been hospitalised for gastritis in the past).

I personally won't touch the stuff with a bargepole for my kids. It's too dangerous and damaging to the gut.

I do use panadol occasionally when there's evidence of harm, but find that skin-to-skin contact and increased breastfeeds seem to solve most problems around here.

I hope your bubba is feeling better soon. :hugs:

[portmama]

A Maybe try some cold teething rings, a baltic amber necklace or some homeopathic teething tablets.



Do the amber necklaces REALLY work??

[overitand36]

If you give nurofen, please be VERY careful with it. You need to give it on a full tummy (ie IMMEDIATELY after a feed) and not more often that 8 hourly - no more than 3 doses in a day. It is extremely caustic and can eat a hole in the lining of the stomach, leading to gastritis or an ulcer both of which are EXTREMELY painful (speaking as one who has been hospitalised for gastritis in the past).

I personally won't touch the stuff with a bargepole for my kids. It's too dangerous and damaging to the gut.

When not administered by following instructions.

Like most drugs it also has side effects when directions are not followed. All these instructions are on the bottle.

When used properly it works.

[Nowhere]

My 5 month old is getting her first teeth. The first one popped through no signs or probs, but she hasn't got the second yet, but seems to be in pain... i think. She is difficult to settle and crying when she is normally a good baby, easy to sleep. I know all babies go through stages, so how do i tell whether she is in pain, or going through a not-settling stage? When should i give nurofen, because i don't want to give it if not needed... is this harmful for the baby?


If bubs is just unsettled with no obvious signs of pain or fever would just try and ride it out with thngs lke a cold flanel on his gums or a teething ring and lots of cuddles

Neuphen is pretty stong and not somethng to give unles its really needed. If you do use it make sur its on a ful tummy and not for to long

[Nowhere]

When not administered by following instructions.

Like most drugs it also has side effects when directions are not followed. All these instructions are on the bottle.

When used properly it works.


For sure lke any drug it can work great when needed and when instructions are followed, DD has had it many times, when we have obvious need for it. but not for being unsetled.

[Tam-I-Am]

I'm not meaning to argue :) I agree it works, and that when the directions are followed it is mostly okay. But I have ended up in hospital, vomiting blood and in the worst pain of my life after taking nurofen EXACTLY as per the directions.

Nothing is 100% safe, and given my propensity to severe gastritis, and my children's gut health issues, there's no way I'd use nurofen for them. Even according to the directions.

That's all I meant - I don't mean it as a judgement against people who choose to use it, and that's all my post meant - that you need to be VERY careful with it, follow it 100% as per the instructions, and watch for any ill effects.

:)

[Pax]

I use it my girl seems to be pretty healthy in the tum :confused:

[Nomsie]

I also recommend hylands teething tablets- they can be hard to get hold of as not all chemists stock them, but I have found Chemist Warehouse and now more recently Priceline Chemist have them :)

Also- frozen grapes, or if she's not on solids yet an ice block in a mesh feeder can work wonders!

And lastly- my boys will not touch panadol with a 40ft pole- it must taste terrible because it surely smells it! But I have found dymadon to be excellent as an alternative- it smells like kids nurofen and looks a bit like it too, but is a paracetamol :D

[Tam-I-Am]

I use it my girl seems to be pretty healthy in the tum :confused:

My kids' gut health issues were pre-existing, not caused by the nurofen. :) I don't want them to be exacerbated by the use of nurofen.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100001894.html


Warning!



Do not exceed the dose recommended in the leaflet supplied with the medicine. This medicine is for short-term use only. If symptoms persist for more than three days despite treatment, seek medical advice from your doctor or pharmacist. For children under six months, medical advice should be sought after 24 hours use if the symptoms persist.
When used to reduce fever following vaccinations, one dose of 2.5ml (50mg) should be given, followed by one further dose of 2.5ml (50mg) six hours later if necessary. No more than two doses should be given in 24 hours. If fever is not reduced, consult a doctor.
Ibuprofen is generally well-tolerated and most people do not experience any side effects. The most common side effects are related to stomach irritation and include abdominal pain, indigestion and nausea. These can mainly be avoided by taking the ibuprofen with food. Rarely, serious side effects such as ulceration or bleeding of the stomach or intestines may occur. These are more likely with high doses and in elderly people. If your child experiences any sign of bleeding from the stomach or bowels after taking this medicine, such as vomiting blood and/or passing black/tarry/bloodstained stools, you should consult your doctor.
Very rarely, NSAIDS may cause serious blistering or peeling skin reactions (eg Stevens-Johnson syndrome, toxic epidermal necrolysis, exfoliative dermatitis). For this reason, you should stop using this medicine and consult your doctor if your child gets a skin rash or sores inside the mouth while taking this medicine.



The side effects are rare - but they happened to me, when I was young, healthy, taking small doses over limited amounts of time, exactly as directed, and with food. They can happen to ANYBODY - and I would never wish the pain (not to mention the incredibly terrifying vomiting of blood) on anybody, least of all a baby.

[Beck13]

Just a note on bonjella - did you know it doesn't actually have a numbing agent in it, it just soothes. You can use SM33 which actually has a numbing agent and works wonders!

[Bellini]

Do the amber necklaces REALLY work??

I know many parent's who swear by them, and some on bubhub too link (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=219415)

DS's necklace is currently on order, so I can't tell you from personal experience, but the feedback has been extremely promising - and it's worth a shot if it means I can avoid administering drugs.

[bbkb]

my DS is 5mths old already had his first tooth come through with minimum problems we got an amber teething necklance and i thought it was gold. however the last week has been less than gold. up every hour pulling his ears hitting his cheeks not after feed but gums are swollen and more teeth are trying to break through. i started on the hylands yesterday after talking to the chemist it seemed to work ok but last night up every hour wanting more as soon as i gave more he was ok said it was ok to give every hour for the first 6hrs.

did anyone else try these tablets do they take awhile to come into full affect. is it ok i put them in his mouth but then give him milk to wash down or will this just dilute the tablet?

didnt find bonjella worked for us. i might try sm33 if these tablets dont work for more than hour.

[SCORPIOGEMINI]

I also recommend hylands teething tablets- they can be hard to

Yes that's what they're called, I called them Hermanns:D. Thanks for that.

Me:valentine:Hubby
DD1-7yrs:cloud9: DD2-5yrs:smiliedance: Blessed Twice:yes:
TTC#3:babydust2:

[SCORPIOGEMINI]

Just a note on bonjella - did you know it doesn't actually have a numbing agent in it, it just soothes. You can use SM33 which actually has a numbing agent and works wonders!


I never used bonjella on my girls only hylands teething tablets, and if they were really uncomfortable, then I'd us Panadol, but thanks for that when I have another bub, I'll definately keep that in mind, can you get SM33 from the chemist??:wave:

[portmama]

You can get sm33 from chemists, think it is behind the counter. It has worked for me YAY:smiliedance: so my little one is finally getting sleep! Seems to get her to nod off, but she wakes usually in a few hours, but you can only use SM33 every 3 hours. Bonjela did nothing for bubs, she refused to open her mouth! Haven't had to use nurofen for a while now, but decided i'm not going to beat myself up- if she needs it she needs it.
Does anyone know where i can get amber necklaces online? And how are they meant to work?

[Beck13]

I wasn't actually told about bonjella not having a numbing agent until my ds was just about finished teething! But it did work wonders for those last few molars. I would also put a bit on his arm just before he had his injections as it slightly numbs the area.

[bbkb]

portmamma - i got mine from amberbebe which is online got express delivery ordered mine on sunday night and got it on a tuesday morning. they work by the beads been in contact with your bubs skin it heats them up and releases the properties from the amber that help them. if you look on the amberbebe website it goes into huge amount of detail.

well tried sm33 yesterday as this getting up every hour for the last week has taken its toll and its gold he slept through the whole night so back to normal again :yelclap: