Some people need more to worry about (all BF photo threads merged)

[Mister Noodle]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/27/nursing.cover.ap/index.html

Words fail me.

[tickle]

"Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob," wrote Lauren, a mother of a 4-month-old.
What the? These people have issues.:rolleyes:

[FourAngelKisses]

"I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine," one person wrote

I wonder if they get offended when they see cow udders on the front of a farming magazine??

Some people need to get over it and realise that a breast is just a piece of skin that a baby uses to feed with, not a sexual object.

[Chickadee]

I'm not surprised at all that many Americans reacted that way. And don't forget, people are always more likely to write complaints than letters of praise, and the complaints are more likely to make the news. So the reaction that is being reported is automatically skewed to the negative.

[Areca]

I've seen this article popping up all over the internet.

I wonder if these people that think that picture is disgusting think the same of the covers of playboy magazine's.

Really all you can do is feel sorry for the people offended by that picture....what kind of cr*ppy a$%e world do they live in?

[tickle]

Yes Martha, very true. I just find it rather strange that people even think that way!

[Pippi Longstocking]

Well, I can understand why it was offensive. I can't believe they had that on the front cover!

















A real live child! *shakes head, looks appalled* :p

[SilverStarfish]

I'm with you, Mr Noodle... :eek:

For god's sake, its a BOOB!! GET OVER IT!!!

[KarniF00l]

Oh know :eek: it's a boob *covers eyes* :p

[KarniF00l]

"Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob," wrote Lauren, a mother of a 4-month-old.



I thought i should add that i'm a different Lauren before ppl start asking :laughing:

[Mischief]

My goodness....a BOOB with a BABY on it....how shocking...how sickening...how UNNATURAL....LOL :laughing: WHAT THE?

Yet, I bet these same women arent offended at the Cosmo Magazine Covers with nearly undressed Celebrities on them!

For goodness sakes, give breast feeding mums a break for once! Formula mums are always saying they get the raw end of the deal, but Breast Feeders get it just as much! No matter WHAT you do, BF or FF, someone will always complain you are doing it wrong!

[FourAngelKisses]

No matter WHAT you do, BF or FF, someone will always complain you are doing it wrong!

And if we were to feed them solids from day one, they still wouldn't be happy.

[shed]

hmm, I'm suspicious.

The "scandal" would certainly get people talking, if you wanted to get people talking about a certain subject, like, oh, say, breastfeeding?

[Goosie22]

Americans are scared of a little nip, especially if a baby is attached. But if its out there flauted for advertising or sexual purposes its fine:rolleyes: .

[the_queen]

Goosie, you took the words out of my mouth :D

Let's have strippers - oh sorry, musicians :rolleyes: - parade around singing "i don't give a -beep- keep looking at my -beep-" whilst grinding and making "f***-me" faces, but gott in himmel, we can't POSSIBLY have a feeding baby on the cover of a parenting magazine!!!:banghead:

[Uzbard]

So we can have strippers selling soft drinks and people getting blown apart on the 6pm news.....but shock horror, a breast feeding baby. :eek: This is incredible. I know that shock and awe lead the news anyway, but i would hate to see the reaction if it was something more seroius.....lets say, a baby having a nappy changed or something. Guess this is why I dont watch the news:mad:

[Uzbard]

You know what really gets me, it is the MOTHERS that are up in arms!!! Geeze, no wonder I get a little uncomfortable when DW and DD need a little time to feed. What to these people think if they see a mother feeding in the parents room? "Oh My!!, How could you!, ITs so Un---Natural!"

Grrrrrr!:mad:

[xkwzit]

OK, now I know what I want to see on those GIANT bus shelter ads. A humungous pic of a lovely baby who (incidentally) is BFing. Gosh the baby's head was 3 time the size of that small slice of boob that they showed - I hardly noticed it :D .

Cheers

[cheezelkat]

It's a beautiful picture. It's a shame that some women are disgusted by their own bodies to think like that.

[vanillabean]

Oh Please! Anyone connecting a breastfeeding boob with sex and sexuality has problems. I have seen a similar thing on Dr Phil before. Most people do not flash their whole breast while feeding. Some people are really odd.

[drewid]

I really don't understand how so many people aren't able to separate the two...first and foremost the breast is for providing food to babies. Feeding babies is not a sensual, sexual thing. What is so hard? I know when my husband sees me, or another woman, breastfeeding, he certainly does not look at it in a sexual way.

I'm generalising here, but most Americans are annoying when it comes to breastfeeding.

[SilverStarfish]

I just had another look at the photo... and one of the articles is titled "Why Women Don't Nurse Longer"

well, DUH FREDDY!!! I'd say that CNN article has it pretty well figured out.

[reAllytee]

hmm, I'm suspicious.

The "scandal" would certainly get people talking, if you wanted to get people talking about a certain subject, like, oh, say, breastfeeding?


Yes i have to say i pondered also.

People need to realise its a nursing baby for heavens sake & tis a gorgeous photo .... But then again look at the uproar celebrities like Brittany Spears & Demi Moore caused when they posed nude pregnant !!!! Honestly how is a pregnant woman offensive ?!?!?!?!?! Blah !

[kymmy]

I am disgusted that ppl think that is innopropiate!
How can someone say a breast is a breast - its a sexual thing!
No, not in that context at the very least.....

:banghead:

[mum_2_5]

OMG. They wouldn't want to come over here to oz and see all the women bf in public everywhere.

[SilverStarfish]

From my FIL:


The Evil Empire strikes again in the land of Mother and Apple pie.
Quietly watching Bay Watch, the OC, 90210 etc

The common man whips out his Smith and Weston and demands
that the Newsagent covers up the flesh lest he blow him away.

Oh say .....why can't you see.......

[moonblossom]

Oh we are ALL SO BAD for doing what our breasts were designed for. I'm sitting here typing one handed breastfeeding my son, his father stroking his son's head and admiring us both. Not for ONE SECOND does he see this loving act as something sexual. But then again, hes a mature man who knows that breastmilk is the absolute best for his son.

SOME PEOPLE...I dunno sometimes I feel like slapping people ROFLMAO

[SilverStarfish]

I was looking at some different breastpump sites when I found this:


http://www.whisperwear.com/

"Oh, a hand's free breastpump!" I thought "I wonder how that works?" I followed the "View Usage Videos" link, thinking I'd get to see a pump in action.

Wrong. All they show is a woman putting something up her untucked t shirt. It reminded me of this thread. Americans can't even show a breast when advertising a breastpump?

[PhAnToM]

"I'm totally supportive of it -- I just don't like the flashing," she said. "I don't want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn't want to see."

:eek: Oh dear!
Perhaps she should make sure she is fully clothed at all times. Heaven forbid her husband and son should accidently see A breast! :D

Oh.. and "flashing"???:confused:
I can't see the tassles in the pic!


I would like to give human race the benefit of the doubt and say the magazine is trying to create this hype to increase circulation (as an increase in circulation will increase their only form of income, advertising).
BUT... I am afraid I know better! :rolleyes:

[KaM]

I dont know about anyone else but usually when Im feeding you dont see much of a boob at all . .you see skin . .hell for all intensive purposes it could be skin from a shoulder ur looking at. . Its not like you have your whole tit hanging out in the wind:eek:

[jessgray]

*covers eyes* eeek! a breast!
lol:laughing:

you have to wonder what the world is coming to when a picture of a breastfeeding mother and her child causes such a scandal:thumbsdown:

[BlueEyedGirl]

Do you think maybe we should teach them that in order to breastfeed, you don't need to have everything exposed??:idea:

My photographer sister was over last night with her camera, taking photos of Isabelle all evening... from play-time, bath-time, feed-time and sleep-time! And I was okay with it. I wanted to have some photos of Isabelle feeding, of that look she gets in her eye... its priceless:kiss: And its not going to be there forever:crying:

[Bearskin]

But we are talking about a country where, in an American documentary showing childbirth that I watched recently on Foxtel, the newborn baby's genitals were 'blurred' so viewers cannot be offended by seeing sex organs.....of newborn babies!!! :thumbsdown:

Yet I can watch another documentary called America Uncut, where corpes are shown in full view and a reinactment of the brutal murder of three 9 year old boys is filmed....

Ah the Yanks - they have not moved far from their puritanical background. Have gun, be happy but please no pics of breastfeeding babies.

[Mister Noodle]

Same thing happened with Abu Ghraib.

HEY LOOKIT TORTURE AND ABUSE... but hey, we blurred out the genitals so your pure eyeballs won't be sullied!

[pookiesossige]

Most states now have laws guaranteeing the right to breast-feed where one chooses, and when a store or restaurant employee denies a woman that right, it has often resulted in public protests known as "nurse-ins": at a Starbucks in Miami, Florida, at Victoria's Secret stores in Racine, Wisconsin, and Boston, Massachusetts, and, last year, outside ABC headquarters in New York

I think that means everyone squishes into that particular business and feeds their babies all together... Oooo!! Oooo!! I wanna do one of these!!

[tera]

oooo oooo I wanna do one of those too. The amount of comments I have received particularly lately about feeding my 23 month old is disgusting

Teresa:banghead:

[tanni_83]

:no: i have no words :(

[red crayon]

I've just been reading an article on news.com.au about the outrage expressed in the USA over a recent front cover of a parenting magazine called 'Babytalk'. The picture is a side shot of a breast with a baby feeding. I can't believe that the magazine got 5000 letters people saying they were offended by the photo. Too wierd. Is it me or is this a strange reaction?

[tickle]

Hi:)
There is currently an active thread about the article here. (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=32189)
Personally I think it is really silly.

[red crayon]

Thanks, oh Happy One. I thought the bubhubbers would have had something to say about it. I shall add my 5 cents to the active thread.

[red crayon]

i'm coming in late here but i was astounded by the controversy. first of all, it's a parenting magazine...of course, there's going to be pics of breastfeeding mothers. second of all, it's a side shot of the breast - you barely see anything! and third of all, western culture really needs to get over this fetishisation (i may have made that word up) of the breast. society use boobs to sell anything and everything and then can't see them in any other light other than sexual. boobs are beautiful and nothing to feel 'dirty' and 'ashamed' about.

[flower]

There's always gonna be people on this earth that are repelled by a womans bosom with a baby attached to it..
Go figure?
What can we do about it?
What a bunch of wierdo's
Its like the thing when a pregnant celebrity women (or just us mums) choose NOT to wear mumu's on the streets (on tele) and men and women strangers alike tisk tisk in disgust as their 'bumb' is obnscenely visible.
What can we do about the whacko's and nutjobs?
Is it the whole Victorian thing?
Just plain bloody bizzare.

[red crayon]

i'm in full agreement, linda. is it because being pregnant means you've had sex...and therefore you need to hide it?? yes, we'd love women to procreate more and fill up the earth with beautiful babies - we just don't want to see any evidence of it.

[misskittyfantastico]

It's a turvy topsy world sometimes....people are disgusted by a photo of a baby breastfeeding and there's going to be yet another series of big brother....*sigh* turvy topsy alright.

[porridge]

my goodness!! people think THAT'S offensive??? wt???

As far as photos go, I think it's beautiful! how cute is that baby??

I agree miss kitty about the bb thing... weird huh? :confused:

[bigglet]

It's a turvy topsy world sometimes....people are disgusted by a photo of a baby breastfeeding and there's going to be yet another series of big brother....*sigh* turvy topsy alright.

I was just about to say the same thing!!

I thought it was a LOVELY photo IMHO - I've been trying to get a picture like that of my baby feeding from me!

[AquaDevil78]

Three words - Only in America!


Seriously they are whacked in the head over there.. cuckoo!

:rolleyes:

[Karizma]

Three words - Only in America!


Seriously they are whacked in the head over there.. cuckoo!

:rolleyes:

:laughing: :laughing:

[Rainbowbrite]

What can i say, its a breast. Nothing more nothing less, designed to nourish babies.

[dna13]

Three words - Only in America!


Seriously they are whacked in the head over there.. cuckoo!

:rolleyes:

Unfortunately it happens here too!:thumbsdown:

[red crayon]

yeah, remember the media and community frenzy over a pregnant nicky buckley wearing clingy dresses on TV??

[Karizma]

Mind you... the naughty mags always have girls with next to nothing on so i dont know what on earth they are complaining about.

[Niki]

i dont see how ppl can find that offensive!!! its natural its wat they are designed to do!

[ButterflyKisses]

so let's hide this photo of pure innocense and bring on more of Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone and Arnie killing, shooting and maming everything in their path. Heaven forbid that we see a baby sucking nourishment from their mother.

it's not like the mother is seductively flashing her cleavage or that you can see her nipples - for all intense purposes it could even be a baby sucking their mother's bent elbow or knee

[SamanthaJane]

Well... i am by no means "offended" or "disgusted" at the photo.

I wouldnt even bother to send in a complaint, i dont think its that big a deal. If you dont like it, dont look at it, dont buy the magazine... derr... :rolleyes:

But, as someone who has always found breastfeeding really "uncomfortable", the image does leave me desperatley wanting to look in another direction.

In my mind, boobs are to be covered at all times. I don't see them as a sexual object, nor do i see them as a natural use for breastfeeding. In my mind they are something that just needs to be hidden away. And i cant shake that idea from my mind, no matter how hard i try.

So yeah, im one of the ones that isnt exactly 'sitting pretty' so to speak at the image, but NO WAY would i ever make a complaint about it. I think thats ridiculous.

[Goosie22]

In my mind, boobs are to be covered at all times. I don't see them as a sexual object, nor do i see them as a natural use for breastfeeding. In my mind they are something that just needs to be hidden away. And i cant shake that idea from my mind, no matter how hard i try.

what would you see they are used for then?

[SamanthaJane]

what would you see they are used for then?

Nothing. I see them as having no use at all. In my mind they should be hidden away. But that is just IN MY MIND. And is a thought that nothing has been able to change.

I would hope you are not having a go at me, because if you were, that is completely unfair, considering it is a problem i have had my whole life.

[Goosie22]

I would hope you are not having a go at me, because if you were, that is completely unfair, considering it is a problem i have had my whole life.

No, Im not having a go at you.

I just find it hard to fathom, do you feel that way about other parts of your body?

[SamanthaJane]

No, Im not having a go at you.

I just find it hard to fathom, do you feel that way about other parts of your body?

Im sorry goosie, but that is none of your business, and nor is it related to this topic of discussion at all. I chose to share that one piece of information, which is quite personal to me, but i thought i may provide some info from another person's point of view and i am leaving it at that. Any other information is not neccessary in this debate. Thanks and goodnite. :wave:

[twolittlegirls]

I don't know if this has already been mentioned because I couldn't really be bothered to read through the whole thread LOL!!

Does anybody remember when Kate Langbrooke (sp?) breastfed on the panel? It caused a massive stir. I didn't see what the problem was. Its not like she flashed her boob to the world, but if she had without a baby involved it would have probably been ok!!

[SilverStarfish]

Oh yeah, I remember that. Imagine that going to air in America if they can't handle even the idea of a mother breastfeeding on a magazine cover? Like someone further up the thread said... you can't even really tell its a boob! it could be a shoulder for all it matters.

[Jackie-Tiana]

that lady Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, is so worried about her son seeing a breast and she breast feed him.....HELLO what did he see for those few months of his life? a milk carton from the store?

[SassyMummy]

What a load of absolute rubbish!

I'm not even a breastfeeder (was only a breastfeeder for 9 weeks...and even some of that was supplemented with formula...), and I find breastfeeding wonderful! I can't wait until I have another baby and breastfeed everywhere...

When I DID breastfeed, I did it wherever I needed to. If the parents room was too far away, I'd just sit on a bench and go for it. I never used a shawl to cover myself...that's what DD's head was for. I never thought I would have been comfortable with that...when I was pregnant, I would always talk about how I was going to "breastfeed in private." That went out hte window on day 1...with all the nurses, DP, my mother, visitors turning up..(I'll never breastfeed infront of my father or grandparents though...that weirds me out).

I think next time, I'll do my best to be a "lactivist" and see how many disapproving looks I can recieve...:D

[Jackie-Tiana]

i must say a big thank you to a lovely lady Kath in Moonee Ponds cos thanks to her many years ago she was breastfeeding in public at Crown Casino and was discriminated against, she the spoke to her local member of government, who then in turn made it illegal for women to be dicrimnated against while breastfeeding in public

so a big :yelclap: thank u from all the breastfeeding mothers of Australia!

[Mamaduke]

This ad doesn't disturb me in the slightest but I will be bold enough to say that before I had children the sight of a woman breastfeeding in a cafe etc was enough for me to pack up and leave...that's honesty for 'ya!
I just couldn't stand it - I knew that she was feeding her child and I would never be shallow enough to think a child should be denied nourishment because they happened to be in a public place but I just couldn't sit there - there is a discreet way of breastfeeding & then there's
'oi...look at me and my mammaries...I'm feeding my baby...and you can all go jump' attitude...that's the one that put me off.
Even after I had Jesse and had to express since he was in special care I found it very very difficult to sit in 'the milking shed' with all of the other mums hooked up to our machines. Once a hubby walked in and announced to everyone, "it's okay...I've seen so many in my time here it's nothing to me!" - well I stopped my milking machine and announced to him, "well I'm sorry but it's SOMETHING to me!" and walked out. I would even express in the toilet just so I wouldn't have to sit with all of the mums and their partners.
When I had Lucas I would ask visitors to leave when it was time for a feed - I just couldn't get the hang of doing it discreetly and wasn't comfortable doing it in front of everyone.
So SamanthaJane...I know exactly where you're coming from...:yes:

[Beany]

I'm with you there, Mamaduke. While I wouldn't pack up and leave, I would feel a little disconcerted about people feeding in public if they weren't being discreet (many of my friends breastfed around me but they usually dropped a lightweight scarf down to hide the breast somewhat).

I'm also far more inclined to think of breasts as sexual things rather than feeding things - that's what they have been for me for the greater portion of my life, anyway. That they are biologically designed for the feeding purpose doesn't change that fact. Mine don't contain any milk (yet) and don't perform a feeding function (yet) but they do serve a sexual "purpose".

Perhaps this will change when I start to feed a baby.

That's not to say I find that picture disturbing. I actually think it's a lovely shot - a snapshot in time relaying all the affection and bonding that takes place during breastfeeding.

[JATS]

As far as this particular case, it's a parenting Mag! I'd have thought it was ok to show a breastfeeding bub there!

Honestly I find it sad that Americans have sexualised Boobs to the point they can't imagine them used for anything else.

Breasts are first and foremost to provide nourishment to children, as for sexual purpose... I can't really say I have ever 'used' them during sex :confused: Males often find them attractive, but that is a biological mechanism to promote reproduction, ie the production of babies. Who'd have thought. :rolleyes:

[Beany]

For me, as is the case for many women, nipples are erogenous zones and thus form a part of foreplay. As such, nipples and breasts have inescapable sexual connotations.

[Goosie22]

Women are beautiful multitasking beings, you dont need to be restricted in thinking they (Breasts) either sexual or nuturing because they are both. Look at your mouth its a sexual tool also as are many other parts of our bodies. Someone could say "when I see somebody eating it grosses me out because I know shes going to go home a Kiss her partner and god knows what with that mouth aswell, you know? I know she has to eat, but please do it discreetly"

Advertising infulence has a lot to answer for restricting the natural flow of our bodies uses.

Rise above it:yes: .

[Rainbowbrite]

Women are beautiful multitasking beings, you dont need to be restricted in thinking they (Breasts) either sexual or nuturing because they are both. Look at your mouth its a sexual tool also as are many other parts of our bodies. Someone could say "when I see somebody eating it grosses me out because I know shes going to go home a Kiss her partner and god knows what with that mouth aswell, you know? I know she has to eat, but please do it discreetly"

Advertising infulence has a lot to answer for restricting the natural flow of our bodies uses.

Rise above it:yes: .

:yelclap: :yelclap: Very well said!

[Mum&bubs]

I thought the photo was beautiful!! I even thought that to myself before reading the article.
Good on breastfeeding mums that arent ashamed to feed their babies in public! Gosh i feed my DD whenever i want, however i want! I dont rush to the toilet to feed her- she tells me when she wants it! Sometimes i dont use a blanket to cover up because it is way too hot over bubs & im not going to over heat my baby because 'someone might get offended'.

You see more of a womans boob from those 'tarts' that walk around the place showing as much skin off as possible but thats fine hey! Not one complaint about those women only the breastfeeding mums cause that is 'wrong' these days. Im sick of people telling me that breastfeeding my 16 month old DD is 'wrong'. IMO these people can kiss my ***! MY body, MY baby, MY choice if you dont like the image of a breastfeeding mother simple- look away! Why would you be staring in the first place??

[spiritedfamily]

It is a beautiful picture.
Our society has a very strange perspective on bodies. I try to keep perspective with our kids and teach them correct terms and not have them feel worried about any part of their body...we want them to learn to be happy within their own skin particularly before the media gets into their heads.

As a young woman I breastfed my first very openly, I showed lots of breast as I was very proud of my achievement and I got lots of reactions too, some upsetting and some encouraging. These days I can feed my baby discreetly and no one really notices unless they really look, but I figure that I'd rather a happy bub than a crying distressed hungry baby that everyone wishes would be quiet. I've had to feed in church and even people there don't notice and if they do...the reactions were varied...I usually just smile politely at them. I tend not to be in their face but just go about my business.

[Beany]

Women are beautiful multitasking beings, you dont need to be restricted in thinking they (Breasts) either sexual or nuturing because they are both. Look at your mouth its a sexual tool also as are many other parts of our bodies. Someone could say "when I see somebody eating it grosses me out because I know shes going to go home a Kiss her partner and god knows what with that mouth aswell, you know? I know she has to eat, but please do it discreetly"

Advertising infulence has a lot to answer for restricting the natural flow of our bodies uses.

Rise above it:yes: .

I don't disagree. I just think it's easier to think of organs and bodily parts as multifunctional once they have actually performed multiple functions. My breasts have, as yet, only performed one.

And rather than eating discreetly, I would hope the woman in your analogy would kiss her partner discreetly. Public tonsil warfare makes me uncomfortable, too.

[Milliner]

Oh some people!! They should just get over it and stop being to silly!!

[SassyMummy]

I don't see my breasts as sexual...they bring me no sexual gratification at all. I didn't see them as "baby-feeders" before I had DD either...they were just something that drew men in.

I guess that's something I can understand...people who have no yet used them for that they were designed for probably can't understand the beauty in it (some probably can...but some obviously can't).

I do think though, they can be both, as Goosie said.

In regards to the photograph at hand...there was no NIPPLE on display, and you could barely tell it was a boob (you couldn't even see any chest that it was attached to!)...it was no pornographic, or disgusting or distasteful or anything...

I'd actually love it if they had an ad on TV about breastfeeding...just so people can get a bit more "used" to the idea that it's a natural thing...an image like that is not graphic by any means (ads with baby bums are more pornographic!:rolleyes: )!

[Pippi Longstocking]

I wonder if the way people view their breats before having children has anything to do with their own upbringing and the way their female family members felt about them? In my family, the women breastfed so I was quite comfortable with it. I remember my mum breastfeeding my little brother and there is only three years between us so I guess she must have fed him for a while. *note to self: remind Jeff he was breastfed :D )*

I have noticed a pattern in these breastfeeding discussions that goes something like this "I'm ok about formula feeding because I was FF and I turned out ok". So I wonder if these belief systems are passed down from generation to generation?

[Fitmumma]

I'm with you, Mr Noodle... :eek:

For god's sake, its a BOOB!! GET OVER IT!!!

Ditto! How can that be offensive!!!:banghead:

[dannii]

Its such a shame they got such negaive feedback. i personally think its a beautiful photo. and shows the bond between mother & baby.

its a food source so why is it such a no - no!???

like someone on here already said.. they always just show the negative.. makes better news i guess. but its a pity that cant get the postive responses of a photo like that.
Just to show not everyone thinks like that. and you shouldnt have to feel bad for B/F your bub.

[BOSS302WMOM]

Does anyone remember the Panel controversy?

How only moments before the women were washing a car with there bare chests and than the female host on the show fed her baby and the viewers kicked up a stink about it??

I thought that was ridiculous and really goes to show that people are so out of touch on what a womens breast was really meant for! My DH is not all interested in breasts and really has only ever seen them as "fat sacks" or to feed babies with.........Nothing sexual.

I remember at one of my appointments the midwife was telling me about how some of women his met think of the breasts as they're husbands only and no one else not even themselves:eek:

After all most breast feeding moms show less breast than most non feeders do with the clothes they wear. That photo truelly represents what most people would see if the walked past and saw a woman feeding without a sheet to cover her and her baby.

[Freddyboy]

In my mind, boobs are to be covered at all times. I don't see them as a sexual object, nor do i see them as a natural use for breastfeeding. In my mind they are something that just needs to be hidden away. And i cant shake that idea from my mind, no matter how hard i try.


People used to feel this way about ankles once............:rolleyes:

I wonder if people get offended at those baby bottle ads, or dummy ads where the nipple is standing there erect symbolising the female nipple? Or is that okay?
When you think about it that is what bottle nipples and dummies are, imitation human nipples! How grose :p

[Desertress]

My god what is wrong with these people. Breast feeding is the most natural thing and i really dont see a problem with it. As for people only seeing the breast as a sexual object then i think they have issues of their own.... they are so much more then that.

GRRRRR it just makes me so mad... these poor little babies are going to start missing out on bfing one day because of nieve insecure people bias.

[Nickster]

It doesn't surprise me (like Martha M said) that Americans feel this way, when the naked breast is heavily censored on television in the States. Due to their censorship laws, you are allowed to see charred bodily remains on primetime, but a mother breastfeeding is a big no-no. Rather skewed if you ask me, but an understandable reaction nonetheless.

[SamanthaJane]

People used to feel this way about ankles once............:rolleyes:

This is why in my high school it was (and still is) a strict rule that ALL our socks were to be ABOVE our ankles. Teachers would literally check in our "pastoral care" (role call) to make sure they were.

[Goosie22]

This is why in my high school it was (and still is) a strict rule that ALL our socks were to be ABOVE our ankles. Teachers would literally check in our "pastoral care" (role call) to make sure they were.

I dont think its quite the same thing. That would be more of a uniform code issue. Trying to inforce a particular dress code, not being offended by parts of peoples bodies.

[Areca]

Just wanted to comment on what SamanthaJane and mamaduke said about boobs should be hidden away.

Before I was pg I never saw the beauty in bf'ing...I would never go and look at a baby while they were breastfeeding. I had no interest in seeing someone else's boob. I was never offended by it, never thought they should cover up or anything but it was a boob and not something I should be looking at. When DD was born, I would ask friends to leave when I was in hospital until I got DD latched on and had a muslin wrap thrown over the top of us. God forbid that they'd see a bit of boob. I covered us up with a wrap for about three months I think. Then one day, after being around friends who were bf'ing and not covering up I just felt stupid covering up (not saying you should feel stupid if you do, I just felt stupid) and promptly stopped. At first one of my best friends would see I was going to bf and would tell me she was looking awya (even when I was using a wrap to cover us!) but she is over that now too. Now a boob to me is just a part of my body, like a hand and while I'm discreet if someone sees a bit of boob I don't care, or if someone wants to check DD out while she's feeding then so be it. It's weird I feel this way now, when my boobs are covered in stretch marks but would've died if someone saw my small, perky, stretch mark free boobs before!

Being a bf'er has changed my opinion on boobs but it took time. I understand the way that they feel, even if I don't feel that way anymore and for those that are uncomfortable it's pretty easy to look away and then you don't see anything!

[Pippi Longstocking]

Is anyone offended by my new avatar? :D

[Mamaduke]

Is anyone offended by my new avatar? :D
Nope...
but there is a double standard when it comes to fleshy avatars.
I remember a certain avatar of a beautiful man's body (with a strategically positioned prop covering the genitals) which caused a stir a while ago and was taken off...maybe if he was holding a baby it would have been different?:rolleyes:
There are a few things that are 'totally natural' and serve a purpose in our lives but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone wants it shoved in their faces.

[Pippi Longstocking]

Mamaduke, are you saying that my avatar with approx 1cm across and 1 mm down (10mm2) of boob is "fleshy" and "shoved in your face"?

For what it's worth, I must have missed the avatar that you are referring to but doubt very much that I would have found it offensive if it was merely a naked man. I have one of them in my house right now actually ;) :thumbsup:

[Mamaduke]

Mamaduke, are you saying that my avatar with approx 1cm across and 1 mm down (10mm2) of boob is "fleshy" and "shoved in your face"?

I believe I did answer "Nope" to your question.
My comparison of fleshy avatars wasn't actually directed at your avatar personally.

[Pippi Longstocking]

Cool, no problems Mamaduke, was just clarifying :)

[SamanthaJane]

I dont think its quite the same thing. That would be more of a uniform code issue. Trying to inforce a particular dress code, not being offended by parts of peoples bodies.

It was a uniform code at my school for the reason that ankles were seen as "sexual" and that students could see other students' ankles as "attractive". I know what i am talking about, it was after all my school. We were told why these rules were in place. May sound totally bazzar, but i am not the one making the rules, am i.

[dannii]

Norah Titov, i think your avatar is cute.. and i couldnt see anyone having a problem with that :thumbsup:

[Milly]

Three words - Only in America!


Seriously they are whacked in the head over there.. cuckoo!

:rolleyes:

Took the words right out of my mouth:laughing:

And, they a world "superpower". Scary:eek: .

[Funkychicken]

Is anyone offended by my new avatar? :D
What a stunning photograph-and a gorgeous bubba!:thumbsup:

[AquaDevil78]

Seriously what is "wrong" with Americans. When it comes to the human body they all freak out! OMG ITS A BOOBIE! ARRRRRRRRGHHHHHHH quick run and hide. FFS this is just a timely reminder of one of the many reasons i will NEVER go there for a holiday or live there EVER.

Bunch of fruit loops.


:confused:


Oooops just realised i already posted in here :o ah well , this is more like what i wanted to say anyway LOL. Silly placenta brain :D

[SassyMummy]

I love your avatar Norah! If I was breastfeeding, I would probably follow suit! (Hell, I might even add MORE boob in my photo...lol). :thumbsup:

I was very pleased with DP last night. I asked HIM how he felt about breastfeeding. I asked if he'd have a problem seeing a massive billboard with a breastfeeding woman on it...or if he cares when women breastfeed without wraps to cover themselves in public. He said he certainly wouldn't have a problem! Very proud of him...since he hasn't experienced breastfeeding I wasn't sure what his answer would have been.

Someone asked about breastfeeding and how you've grown up in relation to feeding.

In my case, I can only remember seeing ONE person feed a baby when I was young...I was about 8 and the woman was at a sporting event I was a part of. I remember being grossed out and telling the woman's daughter (my age...not the feeding baby) that her mother should put her boob away...that it was disgusting!:rolleyes:

Other than that, my mother breastfeed AND bottlefed my brother and I (breastfed until about 7 months...then bottlefed). I don't remember seeing that happen (brother is 18 months younger)...but I have been told on several occassions that I used to copy her by putting my doll to my nipple when I was a little girl. I also remember breastfeeding AND bottlefeeding my dolls...lol.

I'm pretty sure people who bottlefeed have the whole "well I was bottlefed and I turned out fine" thing in their minds...but I'm not so sure about those who were breastfed. When saying the thing about bottlefeeding...it's a defensive thing in retaliation to the fact that some people rave on about how breast is best and how formula-fed kids can have all sorts of problems... But I'm pretty sure nobody puts down breastfeeding in such a way...it's just not "polite" (according to some) to breastfeed in public...and to others it's just not something they feel will emotionally suit them.

[JGirl10]

Anybody seen this yet?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20015691-2,00.html

:rolleyes:

[OM]

There was a thread about this the other day it's a bit sad isn't it!

[KarniF00l]

Here's the thread link

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=32189

[JGirl10]

Thanks. Sorry about the double up...

[camcat]

I truly don't understand what the fuss is about????
3/4 of the pic is baby anyway, you don't see any nipple and frankly there is less actual breast showing than pamela anderson flashes on a day to day basis :yes: (and she's not even feeding).
I think americans like to blow things out of proportion for the sake of it. To my mind there is nothing more beautiful and natural than bf'ing. I tend to be of the opinion that if you don't want to see it, don't look. It's not as though bf'ing mums walk around with everything hanging out in everybodies faces.:laughing:
Most are fairly discreet about it and you see a similar amount of flesh as in the pic. I know personally that at present I could give Pam Anderson a run for her money in the endowment department but am polite enough to keep the girls covered enough for modesties sake around others:laughing:. In saying that I don't stress if you end up seeing a bit of breast when feeding, just try to keep nipple viewing from the public sector:)

[Goosie22]

It was a uniform code at my school for the reason that ankles were seen as "sexual" and that students could see other students' ankles as "attractive". I know what i am talking about, it was after all my school. We were told why these rules were in place. May sound totally bazzar, but i am not the one making the rules, am i.

Was the particular reasoning put forward in writting by the Governing Body of the school (which school)? Or was it the particular teachers' interpretation as to why the certain type socks were prefered?

And yes it does sound Bazzar.

[SamanthaJane]

We had Pastoral Care guidebook, and inside it was a list of all the uniform regulations, it then had a FAQ section about certain uniform regulations. That is how we knew why the rule was there.

[Karizma]

We had a green and yellow blouse at school, and we werent allowd to wear a black bra for that the reason that it was considered un lady like :eek: weird one too

[Rainbowbrite]

OK i think that this conversation has been going on for too long & is getting off topic.

Thanks to all who posted.