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MummyLovesJaykob
15-08-2005, 21:27
hi

my ds is 8 months and i really wanted him circumcised at birth but they dont do that where he was born.

Anyway, do you think its too late to book him in to have it done? I really feel upset when I think about it but I would really prefer he had it done :/

I feel i was pushed away from the subject when I enquired when he was younger and now it may be too late?

Any comments / help/ suggestions are welcome

thanks in advance!

talon
16-08-2005, 07:05
i would go and see your gp and get a referral to a specialist to talk it through. i have just had it done (yesterday) for medical reasons and DS is 5 1/2 months old. He is coping pretty well today (actually acting quite normal). But again, I would want to know the ins and outs of it all. As far as I understand though, people get it done at all different ages for various reasons.
:)

xkwzit
17-08-2005, 14:04
I have a freind whose son needed to have some surgery in that area to correct a problem (not a circumcision though). His spec said that his prefferred age to work on that area is under 18 months or over 4 years. So I don't think you're too late, but I'd arrange to visit a specialist soon to discuss it if there's still a window of opportunity open.

Cheers

lisa&boys
17-08-2005, 18:02
None of my sons are done as dont think its necessary unless its due to health conditions.
But i knew a girl who had her son done when he was 2 years old...so i dont think there is a age limit...go visit your gp as they will have all the necessary info you need.
All the best


hugs

suziebear
17-08-2005, 18:11
We had our son done by Dr Terry Russell in Brisbane. I have known so many people who use him. Our GP was dead against it and I was the one dead for it. My husband thought it was a good idea. You do not need a referral for it ... Dr Russell uses the new plastibell so there is no surgery. Any child under 2 is perfectly safe and his girls will explain it all on the phone to you as well they have a fact sheet on all the benefits and risks but when I looked at the sheet there was no option. It was only a 20 min procedure and Jayden only cried for about 3 maybe 4 mins after. They say to give them a feed straight after and as soon as he saw his bottle it was all forgotten. He was fine from then on ... Not even funny that day. Friends had to have their new born done for medical reason and also had a 28 month old so decided to do them both at the same time so to speak so they were "the same". Even the older boy was fine 20 mins later. Dr Russell is in Mt Gravatt and if you ring them they can give you information on other states and the plasti bell. There is another post on this in here with his phone number in it.
Good Luck.

Caitlin's Mum
18-08-2005, 09:43
Hi, I had my son done by Dr Terry Russell at 3 weeks old. He didn't even cry at all. I would really recommend the plastibell technique - for all ages!

christyc
23-08-2005, 10:09
The plastibell is still surgery, it still hurts after the procedure even if babies don't cry...here is a letter that was in forum at the beginning of the year, just to remind parents that complication do occur between 2-10%!

Hi, I have had my 3 boys done by Terry Russell and I just want you to please be very aware of the things that can go wrong. 2 of my 3 boys had something different go wrong which ended up being extremely painful for them (and upsetting for us) and I don't know if it was the doctor, or just we were unlucky.

Be aware of the scar tissue tightening up and squeezing the little bit of foreskin back over the penis and needing to be cut and bandaged (lots of blood and pain from an otherwise painfree procedure).

And also of the rest of the foreskin (the little remaining bit) re-adhering back onto the penis and having to have it pulled back at a later date. This happened to my third son and Dr Terry Russell assured me this would NOT hurt OR bleed....and it did both. Ashley screamed for over 3 hours and it bled. I was so angry and upset.

If the procedure went as planned all would be fine and I have recommended him in the past, but after what happened to Ashley I am so hurt and angry, and disappointed.

Please everyone, don't turn this into an anti-circumcision debate, I just want to let this mum know our personal experience. Terry Russell assured me this would be so unlikely to happen, yet it did. I am still angry at him for not being honest about how much it would hurt Ashley when he pulled it back later on.

Anyway, I will sleep much better tonight knowing I was honest in telling you about it. Be very careful, and allow for the chance this could happen PLEASE!

Thank You.

4 beautiful children & 1 wonderful husband & me

christyc

Rimon
24-08-2005, 06:45
It is a pleasure to join such an interesting forum. I have 4 boys and they were all done, of course, they must look like their grand dads!
We saved our selves form having to run around the children, all boys, not only begging them to brush teeth but the 'have you done your forskin darling?' no wonder they develop all kinds of complexes? Can you imagine your mum nagging you about that during your puberty? And just like with brushing teeth, how likely are they to do it if not slupervised?
Apart from the cosmetic issue, the health issue has become very apparant lately as circumcsion offers AIDS, STD and cervical cancer prevention.
Circumcision means to cut around, in this case to rid of a rudimentary organ, a procedure performed for thousands of years, and only applies to males. Very rarely a girl has to have some parts trimed if they are abnormaly grown, but mutilation of females just to gain control over female psyche is a criminal offence.
Rabbais have performed the procedure for thousands of years using only some kosher wine soaked in cotton wool for pain control.
There is always a follow up consultation two weeks after the circumcision so the rabbai can be sure that no smegma producing tissue, (cells of Langerhans), will remain and to validate that the head of the penis glands are fully exposed.
There is always some bleeding and some discomfort or some pain but nothing that can not be dealt with some wine, asperine or nursing.
We maintain the opinion that NO PAIN NO GAIN!
But this is the modern age and the ingenious plasti bell has been invented and Doctors such as Terry Russel carry the procedure to perfection.
One inscition to the anestatised fore skin, application of plastiball and nothing but some discomfort with the plastiball's some what cumbersome presence for a week.
The plastiball falls out and after two weeks a validation consultation, follow up to the circumcision to make sure that there are no adhesions and that the organ is complete.
This is done at a precise time, not too early and not too late, so that the body can do the healing.
Separating the excess tissue is as painful as taking a bandaid off the skin or a scab off a wound. Some children might bleed more and feel pain more than others but it is very managable and certainly less worrying than the dentists...
Dr Russel is commened for his brilliant skill and his great service to humanity.

myf
24-08-2005, 09:43
I haven't been on the site for quite sometime now but can see that the circumcision debate is still in full swing.
I posted detailed notes on my two boys circumcisions back in April this year, hoping that I would help any other Mother who might be searching for information or support in this matter.
I have had a number of e-mails from Mothers asking me for more details on the subject and thankfully I have been able to support them through first hand and recent experience.
A point was made that the subject had become so hot on the forum that some Mothers felt they had to e-mail me directly so to avoid being attacked by other forum members. What a shame that some people have to voice their opinions in such aggressive and violent manners. Unfortunately these attackers are also in no position to comment upon procedures of which they have no first hand experiences, so should keep their angry thoughts to themselves.

My two boys 4 & 6 yrs were both circumcised by Dr Terry Russell. I did not have any complications, which was only to be expected as I followed the before and after surgeory information so clearly laid out by Dr Russell.
I found Dr Russell to be a very informative and extremely supportive Professional, who showed attention to care and understanding to both Children and their Parents alike.
I will and have on numerous occasions since my boys procedures recommended him without hesitation to many many parents.
Keep up the good work Dr Russell you have my complete and utter support!

myf
24-08-2005, 12:40
Just thought I would add that I have received yet more private messages from Bubhub members asking for more information on the circumcision procedure. Could this possibly be because we have people posting their beliefs on the subject instead of offering help and information. This service is to provide support and information to other parents in similar situations as ourselves. If you don't have the information required kindly keep your STRONG OPINIONS to yourseves.

I sincerely hope that Christyc does not find that in years to come her boys need to be circumcised for various possible reasons because she has just unfairly publically slayed the best man in the field to do the job.

talon
24-08-2005, 13:52
I would just like to point out before this thread gets too off track that this forum on circumcision is for "positive advice" as stated under the forum link in the index. Not to mention that the original question was whether mummylovesjaykob's DS was considered too old for a circumcision now. Please lets not let this escalate into another for and against argument.

mim
24-08-2005, 16:14
well said kriscee
isn't parenting hard enough without everyone pushing their values onto you?

jamb
24-08-2005, 16:21
Here here! Well said!!