Will You Circumsize Your Baby Boy?

[SamanthaJane]

Just a simple yes/no poll.

My sister is having a boy and really unsure of what to do.

Please dont turn this into some sort of debate, a simple yes/no answer is fine

My sister simply wants to know if its more ommon or less common for people to do it in todays world.

Thanks! :)

[jessi]

I think that its less common in todays world... as people see there isnt really a need for it- unless ofcourse its being done for medical reasons or religious reasons... (but even then, some people who belong to religions who get this done chose not to) :)

[Hokey Pokey]

No for me.

[Mell]

Didn't get my DS done and won't be getting my baby done.

[Tan-mumof3]

No i didn't get my DS done.

[KarniF00l]

:no: i didn't get my DS's done.

[v8mum]

I got my son done. He is now 41/2 yrs old. Each to there own. I think it is much cleaner for the boy and no health problems later in life. Also sometimes depends on the father whether he is done or not. Make sure if your sister does decide yes that she looks into who to do it. Dr Terry Russell at Mt Gravatt in brisbane specialises in it, which is to numb it and put this sort of plastic thing over the end of it and pull the skin back and it falls off in about 3 days. Not harmful for the child at all. I also had a friend though who went to a local GP who did them and he did it the old way, which is to cut it and she had heaps of problems with infection with it.

[mumchristy23]

When I was pregnant with my first child, DP and I decided that if we were having a boy we were going to get him circumsised.

I have had 2 DD and am now pregnant with a boy. DP and I have now decided not to get it done. Mainly because DS can decide later in life if he wishes to get it done however if we do get him circumsised he is left with no choice at all.

[the_queen]

I didn't circumcise either of my children.

[Mister Noodle]

Absolutely not.

[Supermum]

Nope - his penis, there's nothing wrong with it and it's not my call.

[MonkeyMum05]

Nope, my son is keeping his skivvy!

[EskimoMumma]

No I wouldn't.

God created Doodles that way for a reason.

(I'm not religious though)

[shed]

Nope, not for my boy.

[Percy]

I was expecting too, as my DH is. But it was him that decided it wasnt necessary. I was really happy with that.

[Mamaduke]

Ahhh...No...:no:

[pebilz]

We won't be.

[MumofMadd]

My mum asked me about this just after we had DS. DP isn't and we didn't want DS to be either

[Lil X-men]

nope neva consider it.

[mum2nearly3]

Hello,
We had always said we would get our DS done but when I went on-line and saw pictures of it I was really scared. We held off uming & arhing then I saw Dr Terry Russell's website and chose to have a consult with him. Much happier after talking to him...several boys done while I was there and not one of them cried. I went ahead with it for my DS the next day at age 10mths. We were given cream to numb the area the morning of and he got a shot of pain relief 1/2hr before procedure. About 5 days later the Plasti-Bell fell off, there was no bleeding, no pain and no problems.

This is a very personal choice for parents to make and as long as they are informed of the procedure and feel comfortable with it then it is their choice. I have heard of men having it done later in life for many different reasons and it is very painful then. I am sure whatever your sister choose to do will be right for them.
P.S I am new to BubHub - Hope I did this right!!!!

[Lil X-men]

Yep you did all good Mum2nearly 3!!! Welcome:smiliedance:

[cheezelkat]

Nope, boys are perfect as is :)

[kymmy]

Hubby isn't circumcised so I don't think we should have our boys circumcised.
For some reason he would like them to be.:confused:

[RedPanda]

Nope, I didn't get my DS circumcised.

[mummy 2 b]

Im having a baby boy too.Hes due August 16.
I've been wondering about the whole circumsize thing as well.
DP and i have decided not to circumsize our son.DP isn't circumsized so we wont get ourboy circumsized.
I dont know much about the pros and cons of getting it done, but have decided against it anyways.

[my_lot]

yes i wanted my son done. had it all sorted before he was born. we had a dr that would do it as a new born- we didnt want to wait til 12 months.

then my son was born 7 weeks prem and was in ICN then SCN and it was the last thing on my mind.

with his checks the peads did they told my his lil skin already came back it wasnt fused at all and he shouldnt have any probs with infections in early childhood....

well he did get baliantitis about 17 months old. again getting him circumcised was talked about. we used antibiotics and it cleared well.

so he has his skin..and if the next one is a boy he will keep his skin too.

[my_lot]

this is an interesting link

http://www.viafin-atlas.com/senslip.php


it shows an artificial fore skin one can buy (only in usa? lol)

it says:

Being circumcised affects the natural operation, appearance and sensitivity of the penis. During recent years much medical research has been carried out in several countries into the function and purpose of the foreskin. There is now conclusive medical evidence that a circumcised penis with the glans exposed has less nerve receptors and is less effective than a naturally covered penis.

Over the years the exposed glans becomes less sensitive. There is well-documented evidence which shows that this can, and often does, have a disastrous effect on sexual performance, its consequences, and ultimately, on self esteem.

The SenSlip range of artificial retractable foreskins is available in different sizes, to allow for variation between individuals. With ten sizes we want you to be fitted correctly right from the start

[angelwinks]

Dh had his done and it was a no brainer for us because we were both for it with our sons.
The docs tried to talk us out of it because the majority of boys dont have it anymore and they were saying things like do you really want him to be getting changed in gym and to be different? To that I said well I wont be bringing my son up to really take what anyone else says about his body with a grain of salt because he'll have self confidence. For me it was religious and cleanre for them and for dh I think it was the fact he was so they will be.

[MamaSage]

Over my dead body :D

[becca74]

just had my baby boy done at 8 days old, this is the first time I've had one of my boys done as a newborn. But my reasons were medical, as my dad, my uncles, my brothers and 2 of my 3 older sons have had bad experiences with differing levels of 'phimosis' (there is a spectrum of trouble you can have with this). (and sadly it looks like my 2 year old will need doing later down the track, as we are getting similar indications that are not good....:( )

If we didnt have these issues, i wouldnt have had my baby done - and I felt reassured for my baby just yesterday when my 6 year old son, who had to have his circ done last year because it was so bad, told me he still remembers having it done and will never forget how horrible it was - but that he feels so much better now he is 'fixed'..... Thank God my newborn will never have the memories that my oldest boy has! I feel sooooo guilty that I didnt do my other boys as newborns, as it has been so straightforward with my newest little fella, compared to the nightmare I let the eldest ones go through with infections, humiliation and then finally after I relented and gave into them needing to be circ'd, that they are able to remember their experience in hospital.....

You have to make the decision for your own personal reasons.....to be honest, my newborn hasnt had any of the negative issues that people reckon circ'd babies have....his breast feeding stayed normal, his personality stayed the same - and he didnt even cry when he had his first wee, which I was warned he'd probably do. He remains totally oblivious to having had the whole procedure done to him.

But as I said, if we didnt need it to be done for medical reasons, there is no way I would have done this to my boys for cosmetic reasons etc. But that is my personal reasoning, and I wouldnt judge anyone who does choose to do it for whatever reasons they see as justified.

[caz]

I clicked the no box

[Beany]

Nope, my son is keeping his skivvy!

:laughing:

Love it!

[Sarie]

We have our:fingerscrossed: for a girl, but if its a boy he will be done. Our boys are both done.

[talon]

DS was done due to medical reasons at 6 months.
If number 2 is a boy we will not be getting him done unless there are medical reasons.
So I clicked "no".

[Mister Noodle]

Heh. The senSlip can't be used for any kind of sexual activity. What's the point?

I always thought you could make a very interesting foreskin-simulator with a condom: cut the ends off, turn it halfway inside-out, put a little lubricant inside, then glue the cut ends together, making a sort of stretched doughnut: a frictionless toroidal linear bearing, in other words. Which is exactly what a foreskin is, after all.

It ought to replicate the gliding mechanism more or less exactly. I'd try it myself, only I have a real one :p

Edit: whoops, wrong thread

[~Danni~]

no for us as

[DB&O]

I don't have a DS, I have a DD but DH & I have talked & we won't be getting any future DS's done :no:
Ciao,
Brooke.

[MamaSage]

PMSL Mr Noodle! :laughing:

[SassyMummy]

I don't have a son, but I didn't know I had a daughter until a few minutes after my c-section. The only time the circumcision thing crossed my mind was for a millisecond...and I knew the answer straight away.

I wouldn't get my son circumsized.

Personally, I don't see a reason. Most people nowadays exercise good hygeine and providing we teach our son how to clean himself, then all should be well.

I don't understand cosmetic reasons...they all look the same when erect anyway...and IMO there's no such thing as a "good looking" penis anyway... foreskin or not.

I have read that having your foreskin removed can desensitize the area...because it constantly brushes on clothing or whatever and therefore loses a bit of a its sensitivity. Not that I particularly want to think about my child enjoying himself in the sack... but I'm sure most men would prefer to have as much enjoyment as they could get.

DP isn't circumsized either...so I don't think he'd want our son done.

[~EmsMum~]

i wouldn't do it if i ever had a boy

[Little_Toad]

I've helped my Dad do circumcisions and it's not fun for the baby.. but, they do forget an hour later.

None of my 3 brothers or dad were circumcised and they never had any issues with infections or anything.

But.. I think it's good to have the baby look like his Dad. so in this case if I have a boy I will get him circumcised.

Plus from a chicks point of view.. it looks better!

[Mister Noodle]

PMSL Mr Noodle! :laughing:

Hey, it'd work, I tell you! I've got a potential money-spinner right here!

[the_queen]

But.. I think it's good to have the baby look like his Dad.

Honestly not trying to start an argument, just genuinely curious:

Why do you think it's better for their penis' to look similar? Is it something to do with self-toileting?

[OceBel]

yes i will if i have a boy.

[Sara's Boys]

I wouldn't remove anything from a daughter so I certainly won't be removing anything from my sons, especially not for the sake of cosmetic reasons. If we started taking bits of girls, wouldn't we see that as ********? I dont bel;ieve in god, but I believe in nature, we have evolved pretty well thus far, if foreskins were such a bad thing we wouldn't have them.

[misskittyfantastico]

no way.....I am pro skivvies

[twinkles]

Hi :wave:

I didn't circumcise my son, and would not unless there was a medical reason.

Twinkles

[my_lot]

i think the same thing QUEEN.

does it really matter if sons look dif to dad?

do you think kids will say to their dads why do you have a bit more/ less skin than i do?

i must admit...

my son is 4 and just a few weeks ago, after many a times being in the shower with dp, said as they were drying off - " you got a big doodle and ive got a widdle doodle"


i cracked up.

[aardvark]

I didn't circumcise my son, and would not unless there was a medical reason.


Same here.

[Kayteigh]

Medically yes but no I would never have any of my sons circumcised, the reason being when I was pregnant with my 1st son my mum told me a story when she was younger and a doctors assistant, she was the one that held the baby still while the doctor perform the circumcision.

Katie

[Lunar]

I don't have boys but if I did I would not get them circumcised. Just as I would not get my DD's done either.

[Mum&bubs]

DP & I always argue about this so I think its kind of lucky we didnt have a boy/having a boy. He wants it done if we have a boy but I dont. I know it is cleaner but i dont think i could bring myself to getting it done :no:

[Lunar]

Just a simple yes/no poll.

My sister is having a boy and really unsure of what to do.

Please dont turn this into some sort of debate, a simple yes/no answer is fine

My sister simply wants to know if its more ommon or less common for people to do it in todays world.

Thanks! :)

Just in regards to this first post.... why would one be worried about what is more popular?

[the_queen]

DP & I always argue about this so I think its kind of lucky we didnt have a boy/having a boy. He wants it done if we have a boy but I dont. I know it is cleaner but i dont think i could bring myself to getting it done :no:


Krissy show him this[/URL] webpage. :crying:
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[ButterflyKisses]

we had our DS done at 3 days old when I was still in hospital.

I left the decision up to DH for obvious reasons he knows more about dongs than what I do so I went along with his male view point.

our DS was done via the rubber ringy thing [which is more often done nowadays then by cutting like what is outlined in the website above - that is according to my DS's OB]. My OB came in one morning and took DS and was back within 10 mins. I didn't realise the circ was going to be done then so when the OB returned with DS I asked him when did he want to do it and he said "he's done". As DS wasn't crying I had no idea he'd been done. DS never had any problems afterwards ie. infection, signs of pain etc.

[Goosie22]

No,
I have never seen any compelling evidence that suggests it is necessary as a routine procedure for any age. I have boys 9yo and nearly 3yo and both are intact. Their Dad is Circ'd and they feel sorry for him with out his "Doodle Cover":crying: .

[maartysmum]

My son won't be getting done,

I think it is ok if their daddy is done so they look the same and don't ask "Daddy why does yours look different to mine" they are growing up, My DH is not done so it didn't seem fair to get my DS done.

[uptheduff]

I didn't get my boys done...Like a lot of the others said, there is no compelling medical evidence to suggest that it does any good, so what's the point.

Am i the only one who doesn't really get the whole 'father is circumcised, so son has to be done so they look the same' argument? I don't know about everyone else, but i have absolutely no idea wether my bits look anything like my mothers....couldn't care less either TBH LOL.

[SuperWoman]

It's a NO from me.:no:

[cmd'smum]

In relation to the "its cleaner" argument.... I think it depends on the male...whether they are hygenic or not...............:yes: They can be Circmsd and still be unhygenic.

[Bubble*Crazy]

I'm leaving the decision entirely up to him

[vavavanny]

Ouch. No - I wouldn't do it to myself, and certainly not to DS.

[*My Lil Blondie*]

Over my dead body :D


same here :yes:

[Sabby]

If we have a boy yes definately but won't do it till he is older.

[jessgray]

when i had ds1 a dr in SCN asked me if me and DP had thought about circumscion and i said we didnt want it done coz we werent jewish and DP wasnt done lol and the dr said mostly these days its doen for religous reasons but alot of dr's dont do it unless its for that reason or medical reasons.

[SamanthaJane]

Just in regards to this first post.... why would one be worried about what is more popular?

Well heres the thing:

I said that i wouldn't do it to my son if i ever have one, i think that we have body parts for a reason, foreskin included...

She said... she wants it done, because her partner is, that is was cleaner, and that almost every man has it done. Sorta saying that it was "strange" when a man wasnt done.

I then went on to try and argue my point saying that it wasnt really that common these days, and that some doctors will only do it for medical reasons.

So its not like we are basing our decisions on whether or not its "trendy" or whatever... its more like me just arguing the fact that i am always right once again... lol

[Gumby]

Dh isnt done so I wont be getting my boy done. If Dh was then it would be another story. I left the decision up to DH.

[Mister Noodle]

Um, why is it important that a child's genitals resemble those of the father?

[Shellfish]

I don't know what we are having but if I have a boy then yes, we will get him done. Several reasons

1) My husband isn't done and he said he always wished he was because when he was very young 4 or so he had to be taken to the Dr as he hadn't been cleaning himself properly. He said it was humiliating and avoidable.

2) I wish my husband was, women whose husbands or partners are circumsized suffer fewer incidences of cervical cancer (although my husband is much better now and is VERY clean)

3) My best friends brother married a jewish girl and got circumsized at the age of 28. Not something I would wish on my worst enemy as he said it was excrutiating.

[Kooy]

DP and I have now decided not to get it done. Mainly because DS can decide later in life if he wishes to get it done however if we do get him circumsised he is left with no choice at all.

My thoughts exactly! My DH wanted DS done because he was.. but couldn't come up with a better argument than that. In my opinion, that isn't a good enough reason. Don't get me wrong... I was open to the discussion, but in the end we decided he should have the choice.

[Chickadee]

2) I wish my husband was, women whose husbands or partners are circumsized suffer fewer incidences of cervical cancer (although my husband is much better now and is VERY clean)
Is that really true? I must be very unlucky to have only slept with circumcised men and still wound up with HPV and pre-cancerous cervical dysplasia. I suspect condoms are more effective at preventing spread of HPV than circumcision is.

And for the record, we hadn't fully decided on circumcision at the time of birth but I don't think we'd have gotten it done. I couldn't see many good reasons for it then and still don't now.

[Mister Noodle]

All of which are avoidable:

1: Teach them to wash, also get any phimosis/frenulum breve dealt with *early* - washing under a normal foreskin is about as involved as looking at your watch. One swipe with a soapy hand in the shower is all it takes.

2: Safe sex. Cervical cancer is mainly due to a sexually-transmitted viral infection. There's a vaccine, and the only way to catch it is by having unsafe sex with someone who have the virus. Also, there's exactly one study linking intact males to increased HPV infection, and it was done in one small subpopulation in New Jersey, which already had a greatly-elevated incidence of the disease.

3: If you have a daughter, it's quite conceivable that she might marry a bedouin / somalian / egyptian man - would you take *those* precautions ahead of time as well?

[daisyxs]

my DS's father wanted to get it done because he wasnt but wished he was.
i told him if he went and got part of his doodle chopped off then he could tell me how it's no big deal.
needless to say my son is uncircumcised, if he wants it done later in life thats fine but IMO if there is no medical reason for it, its unnecesary.

daisy

[SassyMummy]

I don't agree with the "getting it done so he looks like Dad" thing...

Would you encourage your daughter to get breast implants if her breasts weren't as big as yours? Or would you get a brazillian purely so your little girl doesn't worry why hers doesn't resemble yours? IMO, the "to look like Dad" arguement is ridiculously superficial.

A little boy's penis won't look like his father's anyway...men (generally) have pubic hair, and MUCH BIGGER penises to their sons...so while you may want to avoid the "why does Daddy's look different to mine" thing in regards to circumcision...you're not going to be able to avoid that exact same question in regards to pubic hair or size... And soon enough, the little boy will grow up and understand that some men are "cut" and some aren't.

The CLEANLINESS thing doesn't have relevence anymore IMO...so long as boys are taught to wash themselves adequately, then they're clean. People bathe everyday (generally) these days...so it's not a valid point IMO.

[SamanthaJane]

I wouldn't be doing it/not doing it because the baby's dad is done/not done, in the sense that "so they look the same"

It would be more like drawing from his experience, like whether he was happy to be circumsized or whether he wishes it was still there...

Its a guy thing, in my opinion.

As a woman, i dont find either way any different. To me, its not something that is a big deal whether they have skin there or not :rolleyes:

I think its a bit odd for us women to come to the conlcusion of doing it, unless its for strict medical or religious reasons.

But to guys, it is a big deal... its their body parts, they know what they want.

Of course, mothers should still have their say, dont get me wrong there. But i think it's more of a dad's decision to make, UNLESS it is for strict medical or religious reasons, as i have stated above.

Just my opinion :D

[WeThree]

1) My husband isn't done and he said he always wished he was because when he was very young 4 or so he had to be taken to the Dr as he hadn't been cleaning himself properly. He said it was humiliating and avoidable.

2) I wish my husband was, women whose husbands or partners are circumsized suffer fewer incidences of cervical cancer (although my husband is much better now and is VERY clean)

3) My best friends brother married a jewish girl and got circumsized at the age of 28. Not something I would wish on my worst enemy as he said it was excrutiating.

I would say your husband would have been older than this, if that is why he actually went, to pull a childs foreskin back regulary at this age and younger is actually very dangerous and probably causes most of the problems small boys suffer, and like someone else said, a quick clean once a day would avoid this anyway, its not like it is hard.

I would be interested to see where you got your information about woman with circumsiced husbands and their lower risk of cervical cancer, as far as I am aware there is no evidence to support this, except for maybe one or two very small case studies in one particular area.
Sorry, not having a go at you or anything, its just if I was going to get something done like this and my reasons for doing it were in fact false, or easlily avoidable, then I would want to know about it :)

[SilverStarfish]

I don't agree with the "getting it done so he looks like Dad" thing...


I agree! I mean, unless you are into family holidays at the local nudist colony... who the heck is going to notice anyway? How many of our DH/P etc actually know (or care?) if their fathers are circumsized or not? Does the state of your FIL's penis really make such a big difference in DH/P's daily life? Does anyone else get creeped out thinking about their FIL's penis... ew ew..

My response to this poll is a big NO. No way, no how.

[SamanthaJane]

I agree! I mean, unless you are into family holidays at the local nudist colony... who the heck is going to notice anyway? How many of our DH/P etc actually know (or care?) if their fathers are circumsized or not? Does the state of your FIL's penis really make such a big difference in DH/P's daily life? Does anyone else get creeped out thinking about their FIL's penis... ew ew..

My response to this poll is a big NO. No way, no how.

EWWW u just made me think !! :laughing:

My dad is done (thanks parents for telling me) but my brother is not (thanks again parents for telling me) they wanted my brother done but no doctor would do it (thanks again parenst...) and when i said "no" on my form to have my baby circumsized if he were a boy my mum was like REALLY?! Totally shocked i said no... lol

My parents are people who think its more "clean" and that is their only reason, i however, do not agree.

LAMO at the nudist colony joke.... :laughing:

[Mister Noodle]

Coops,

When I was born, standard practice was to de-adhere the foreskin and if required stretch/ablate the frenulum a little, (with a gloved finger and gauze) at about 6 weeks - giving full mobility from the get-go.

As such, it's entirely plausible that this was the case for shellfish's husband.

It's frowned on these days because there can be a little abrasion, which if not looked after can lead to stronger adhesion (if any abraded surfaces heal together) - but a little extra attention in the bath every day for a week does prevent this.

[semazani]

I made the major mistake of circumcising my three boys. :barf:

Nothing could convince me there is any reason to circ another boy in my house.

The foreskin is there for a reason. It is not less clean or more problematic. Nothing special has to be done with an intact penis.

Your sons won't look like daddy, even if they are both circ'd. They will always be different sizes and shapes. That arguement makes about as much sense as implanting my daughter at birth so her breasts will look like mine.

It is their body and their decision to make the optional non-reversible surgical option of circumcision.

I see no reason to unnecessarily remove the foreskin of my future sons because society deems it necessary. :shame:

[Yoshua]

depending on the areas in the world you live in Circumcision is REALLY very rare now.

It is becoming more and more rare in the states.


In 16 years the boys in the locker rooms will be almost 50/50 split between circ/intact in my state.



I won't circ my boys, I was circed and wish I wasn't. No way to go back. I actually have complications as an adult with being circumcized but you asked us not to go into that.


My step son is circed, I will probably be having a child of my own in about a year or so, if it is a boy, then no. He will not be circed.

[mum_2_5]

DP is done and so are my 2 boys. I got my 2 boys done for many reasons.

1, they were both born with it half done naturally,

2, I know a few friends of mine with little boys who didn't get it done and they ended up with infections. One friends little boy got and infection that got that bad in 24 hours that the head of his penis turned blue and had to have emergency surgery. He is now deformed.

3, I have had bad experiences in the past with males that haven't been done.

4, Both boys also had the eye of the penis in the wrong spot(like daddy has) and this was corrected when the circ was done. The dr told me both times that he could correct it to save having surgery or problems down the track.

These are just my personal reasons. Luckily my dr would only do it before they were 6 weeks old and I got the plasti-bell done. DS2's bell only fell off this morning, 5 days after circ was done. Also both boys didn't cry when they had it done and didn't get any infections.

I hope your sister makes the decision that is right for her and her DP. It is totally their choice and no one else can make or force that decision on them.

[Shellfish]

I would be interested to see where you got your information about woman with circumsiced husbands and their lower risk of cervical cancer, as far as I am aware there is no evidence to support this, except for maybe one or two very small case studies in one particular area.
Sorry, not having a go at you or anything, its just if I was going to get something done like this and my reasons for doing it were in fact false, or easlily avoidable, then I would want to know about it :)
I read it a few years ago in New Scientist. I didn't keep the article so I don't have the details unfortunately.

[Shellfish]

3: If you have a daughter, it's quite conceivable that she might marry a bedouin / somalian / egyptian man - would you take *those* precautions ahead of time as well?


the emphasis of the point wasn't that he married a Jewish woman, it's the pain and stress of having it done later in life

[Mister Noodle]

Yes, and the point is that the pain and stress of getting your daughter infibulated would be a whole lot worse as an adult, too - but you don't get that done pre-emptively on the off-chance that their chosen partner might require it.

[sunnyflower]

umm just a question ,i have a little boy who is not circed and i was just wondering at what age you are supposed to show them to pull their foreskin back to wash?

[Mister Noodle]

As soon as it can easily retract - it differs in every individual, but it should be OK by the age of four or so.

[Yoshua]

umm just a question ,i have a little boy who is not circed and i was just wondering at what age you are supposed to show them to pull their foreskin back to wash?



Not until after he comes to you and shows you he can do it himself.


And trust me, when he can do it himself he will do it often ;)

[Shellfish]

Yes, and the point is that the pain and stress of getting your daughter infibulated would be a whole lot worse as an adult, too - but you don't get that done pre-emptively on the off-chance that their chosen partner might require it.


I won't even begin to compare male and female circumcision. They are done with different motives and have different outcomes. And I assure you that while there is life in my body, no daughter of mine will be enduring it.

[M O P]

Simple yes/no response- no debating people remember!
yes, our son was c'd

[Mister Noodle]

Shellfish - many people would disagree that the motives and outcome are really so very different between the two - and not in a good way.

And given the level of outrage you feel at the prospect, perhaps you can understand how 'better now than later' might not necessarily hold water.

That was my only point.

[GuruMama]

If your born with it, means its needed. Im not cutting any of my sons bits off!!

[lil button]

Yes for our lil one.

[Minke]

No for us. I researched it when pregnant with DS (my DH is done, so had asumed he would want his boy done too) and when we discussed it, how they do it and told him it wasn't done anymore and the AMA don't recommend routine circumsision - he was a definate 'no'.

(Also told him it can shorten the length... ;) )

Both happy with the decision, just a little fuzzy on the cleaning thing? :laughing: (DH is as clueless as me!) But i'm sure it's really not that hard to figure out...

[the_queen]

Like Robyn Barker says, cleaning an intact penis requires the same attention as cleaning an elbow. ;) (i paraphrase...) Basically just wipe over it, no need to retract - in fact a lot of preventable problems are caused by parents prematurely retracting their baby's foreskin. It's not supposed to be retractable until much later, somewhere between the age of 3 and 14 I think. And nobody should retract it until he himself has discovered he can do it. :thumbsup:

[mrsd]

I voted "no" but in our small town "yes" was not an option.

Our 2 yr old has had 2 foreskin infections and the Dr thinks he may need the op. The other 2 boys (6 and 7mths) aren't done either but no probs.

[Minke]

Like Robyn Barker says, cleaning an intact penis requires the same attention as cleaning an elbow. ;) (i paraphrase...) Basically just wipe over it, no need to retract - in fact a lot of preventable problems are caused by parents prematurely retracting their baby's foreskin. It's not supposed to be retractable until much later, somewhere between the age of 3 and 14 I think. And nobody should retract it until he himself has discovered he can do it. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :D My poor DH was asking me about it! Sorry, no willy here, haven't the foggiest (my baby love is still packed in a box somewhere...)

(edited to add - no i have never seen an adult uncirc'd, iknow, i know - sheltered)

[WeThree]

Coops,

When I was born, standard practice was to de-adhere the foreskin and if required stretch/ablate the frenulum a little, (with a gloved finger and gauze) at about 6 weeks - giving full mobility from the get-go.

As such, it's entirely plausible that this was the case for shellfish's husband.

It's frowned on these days because there can be a little abrasion, which if not looked after can lead to stronger adhesion (if any abraded surfaces heal together) - but a little extra attention in the bath every day for a week does prevent this.

Ahhh, interesting, I did not know that.

~Shellfish, it would be great if you could find some data to back it up on the net or something then, would be interested in seeing it :thumbsup:

[Fie]

Hi

I got my son done. I'd suggest you look at getting a Rabbi or Jewish Dr to do it...as they do so many every week so have more experiance.

[jaydensmum]

We didnt circumsize Jayden just cause we never got around to it. We didnt really make a decision, he just didnt get done cause of laziness! :yes:

[Readytopush]

I got my son done. He is now 41/2 yrs old. Each to there own. I think it is much cleaner for the boy and no health problems later in life. Also sometimes depends on the father whether he is done or not. Make sure if your sister does decide yes that she looks into who to do it.

Hi,

Great question as this is something i am interested in the answer of also. I agree 100% with v8mum as this is something we would do when we have a son. My DH's son (my DSS) did not have it done but that was due to his mothers choice.

I agree is does also depend on if the father has it done as it then also becomes a personal preference of looks as well as health concerns.

As for this day and age, in our ante natal classes which had approx 12 couples, we were the only ones who were for it, and the rest against.

I hope your sister is happy what ever she decides.

[AquaDevil78]

IMHO - Its his choice for later in life, personally i prefer uncirc men... and i wouldn't want to decide on his behalf... as for hygeine i dont think it is of any relevance whether they are or not, my DP says its easy to clean with the skin ;) As someone else said if it had to be done for a medical reason or other then yes, but for vanity/hygiene reasons.. definately his choice :thumbsup:

[ziggie]

mitchell's mum's busy, but thought i'd share what my mum told me years ago... she was going to have me done (29 years ago, as was done at the time), but the mother before her in the ward asked the doctor to perform the procedure on her son, and he asked if she'd like him to also remove the appendix and tonsils while he was at it. Not many circum's'ns that week!

NOT NECESSARY! :mad:

DH

[Pippi Longstocking]

No, I did not and will not modify my sons genitals. Nor did I have their earlobes removed, their tonsils and appendices sliced out... I like my little boys whole.

[Milliner]

Thats a big NO for me!!

[SilverStarfish]

he asked if she'd like him to also remove the appendix and tonsils while he was at it.

:eek: :eek: OMG :eek: :eek: That's terrible!


P.S Great to see another Dadda posting!

[Mister Noodle]

Another question would be what stake parents have in the aesthetic appeal of their children's genitals, given that (we hope) they'll never be using them.

Also, the question of just what rights parenthood grants. Does irreversible cosmetic surgery on the basis of personal aesthetic preference fall under these rights?

[Pippi Longstocking]

Does irreversible cosmetic surgery on the basis of personal aesthetic preference fall under these rights?
Unfortunately, yes - hence circumcision being legal. Should it? I think not.:no:

[Roxy]

Big no here.

DH is done, but he was in full agreeance with me when I said that I didnt want our sone done.

My parents did ask if we were getting him done, and asked why not, but they didnt really care one way or the other.

I support it for medical and religious reasons only - not for cosmetic reasons. With the majority of boys now not being circ'ed, it will be the circ'd ones who look different in the locker room...not that I care much about that either :rolleyes:

DS is 2, and we have never had a problem with kepping his penis clean. He has never had an infection. We will teach him to clean it properly when he boasts to us that he can pull the forsekin bck (because, hes a boy, and am 100% sure he will be proud :laughing: ).

It is families personal choice...and we chose no.

[natasha]

Never, I just couldn't do that. I understand doing it for religious reasons but i couldn't do it otherwise. How awful! I don't get people who do it for cosmetic reasons. Why not wait till they are old enough to make the decision for themselves???

[OscarTheGrouch]

I didn't get my DS done. I was going to and then sat down and thought about why I was going to get it done, purely for cosmetic purposes. I decided that that wasn't a good enough reason for me. In saying that people who decide to circ their sons, that's their choice. We should respect that choice.

[Mister Noodle]

OTG: would you hold the same respect for other infant cosmetic surgery?

What if I wanted to tattoo the name of my favourite band across my son's forehead? What if I wanted to get their ears pointed like an elf? What about a pre-emptive breast reduction for my daughter? Foot binding?

Would you respect those choices?

[natasha]

I would feel the same way if my little boy had bat ears (ears that really stick out). You can have a procedure to pull them back and make them look more 'normal'. I wouldn't do that to my son untill he is at an age where he can make the decision for himself. What if I went ahead and did it and he actually liked the way his ears were before?! Same with circumcision, what if when he is 12 he comes to me and says' I wish you hadn't have done that, i prefer it the other way'!!

[natasha]

OTG: would you hold the same respect for other infant cosmetic surgery?

What if I wanted to tattoo the name of my favourite band across my son's forehead? What if I wanted to get their ears pointed like an elf? What about a pre-emptive breast reduction for my daughter? Foot binding?

Would you respect those choices?
To be honest, no , I wouldn't respect their choices. But I wasn't going to say it on a public forum and upset people.

[Mister Noodle]

natasha: sure, except that bat ears are a deformity, whereas a foreskin is not.

[natasha]

natasha: sure, except that bat ears are a deformity, whereas a foreskin is not.
Point is, It's not up to me to decide, it's up to the person who has it, whether that be my child or an adult.

[Mister Noodle]

Hm. Dangerous territory, there.

Functional or gross cosmetic deformities directly affect the health and wellbeing of the child - and as such the parent has not just the right but also the duty to repair them. For instance, a cleft palate or an extra toe sticking straight down that made walking impossible, or maybe just a really awful facial birthmark / etc. You wouldn't win parent of the year award by leaving those until the child was 18 - it's your right and your duty to arrange for the surgery, despite the lack of adult consent.

On the other hand, performing the same surgery on a child with no existing deformity would land you in jail. Or at least, it certainly should.

We need to leave an out for parents to make irrevocable, life-altering decisions for their children. But IMHO we need to limit that to situations of the most dire importance.

[natasha]

When you talk about " Gross cosmetic deformities that directly affects the health and wellbeing of the child" ei a cleft palate then yes I would correct these on my child when they are a baby as no one would prefer to have these things as adult. A foreskin or stick out ears are a diffrent matter completely as millions of people all over the world may WANT these things. Therefore it is not up to me to decide whether i should rid my child of them.

Where there is a decision to be made, the decision should be 'Do I know for a fact that my child will want this when they are older, will appreciate me doing this for him". If You KNOW that the answer will be yes, then I think that is the only way I could do something like this to my child.

Nobody has any way of knowing that the child will appreciate having his foreskin removed without even having a say in the matter.
I am 99% sure that the same child will appreciate the fact that you got their cleft palate sorted out as a baby as it's pretty comon knowledge that nobody would PREFER to have this later in life.

[Mister Noodle]

We're on the same page - just semantics, I think :)

[natasha]

We're on the same page - just semantics, I think :)

Thank God!:laughing: :yelclap: I have to get on with some tidying up!!!:rolleyes:

[reAllytee]

Ok guys while your entitled to your opinion & all which of course is respected as its your opinion you do have to respect others opinions. Maybe you dont agree with them & if thats the case then fine say you dont etc but dont harp on about it & also realise that this thread wasnt asking you to debate so to quote :



Just a simple yes/no poll.

My sister is having a boy and really unsure of what to do.

Please dont turn this into some sort of debate, a simple yes/no answer is fine

My sister simply wants to know if its more ommon or less common for people to do it in todays world.

Thanks!


So my answer to the OP is ...

Yes i have had my son done & will more than likely have any future boys done.
Our decision was based on many things including religion as well as other factors.

[flowerpot21]

it never even occurred to me to have my boy done. i had no idea that people did it for non-religious reasons. if i had been aware of it i still wouldn't have done it, each to their own and thats all fine, i just think maybe i dont understand what the perceived benefit (if not for religion) is. i have heard people saying that it reduces STD's but that just isnt true and if people believe that then i find that a bit worrying as they may think if their boy is 'done' they wont need to encourage safe sex...

[Little Gorilla]

my son had to have his done as he had a hypospadias.

if he didn't have the hypospadias - I would have left the decision totally up to DP. DP is done and has always said that he would never get his son/s done as there is "just no need for it".

[natasha]

Well, I wasn't gonna harp on about it but Mr Noodle wouldn't give it a rest.:rolleyes: :D I think that man likes arguing waaaaaay too much!!:laughing:

[cosmic]

Not a hope in hell. Would you take a scalpel to your baby girl's genitalia at birth? I think not. Why, oh why, do people think it's different, more acceptable and "your choice" to do the same to your baby boy? :no:

[WeThree]

Go Cecil, its your birthday :D
I was wondering when you would show up....

Oh and in response to the OP, no I wouldnt do it to my boys, why would it even be something you would think about? :confused:

[SilverStarfish]

No way, no how :no:

[tyler's mum]

if i was to have a boy yes i would get him circumsize for no other reason then i think it is much cleaner and i think it looks funny if they are not

THATS JUST MY OPINION

[xkwzit]

Can I remind everyone of a request made by the OP?


Please dont turn this into some sort of debate, a simple yes/no answer is fine

Please just post your view, the idea is to get an idea of what the circ rate is - not to have a big debate. If you want that, feel free to start another thread.

Cheers

[bronny-jane]

i wouldnt do it, i wouldnt like to be circumsized:no: :no: :no: :no:

[Lisa123]

To be honest it never even entered my mind.

[subaruforestermum]

No for me, My partner and I discussed getting it done, but decided against it.

[carls]

No, we were going to but then we had him and heard his first proper cry when they did the heel ***** test and then went NOOOOOO! No way would we put him through any unnecessary pain.

[*Jetiza*]

Our son wasn`t done :no:

[Jamily]

Absolutely not.

[twolittlegirls]

We don't have a boy but if we do its a yes. I personally think it is my husbands decision.

[MummyCharmzy]

I did not circumsize my son and will not

[WizzFizz]

When our son is born in November we will be getting him circumsised... just have to find out whereabouts I will get it done. Definetly before he is 2 weeks old.

[xkwzit]

I have just deleted an unhelpful post on this thread and believe it has now run its course. Thanks to all who replied in a positive way with your personal views. I hope that the OP has the info that her friend was after.

Cheers