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Miaow
31-12-2009, 12:39
Saw this on TV this morning Amazing story - Miracle they are both ok ...


Mother and child restored to life

DAN ELLIOTT, DENVER

December 31, 2009

MIKE Hermanstorfer was clutching his pregnant wife's hand when her life slipped away in a Colorado hospital on Christmas Eve. Moments later he cradled his newborn son's limp body after a medical team delivered the baby by caesarean section.
In a few minutes his son would begin to breathe again under the feverish attention of doctors, and soon he learned his wife had also inexplicably come back to life.
''My legs went out from underneath me,'' Mr Hermanstorfer said. ''I had everything in the world taken from me, and in an hour and a half I had everything given to me.''
Mr Hermanstorfer's wife, Tracy, went into cardiac arrest and stopped breathing during labor last Thursday, said Dr Stephanie Martin, a maternal foetal specialist at Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs, where the Hermanstorfers had gone for the birth of their son.
''She had no signs of life. No heartbeat, no blood pressure, she wasn't breathing,'' said Dr Martin, who had rushed to Mrs Hermanstorfer's room to help. ''The baby was basically limp, with a very slow heart rate.''
Both mother and baby, named Coltyn, now appear healthy, Dr Martin said. She could not explain the mother's cardiac arrest or the recovery.
''We did a thorough evaluation and can't find anything that explains why this happened,'' Dr Martin said.
But Mr Hermanstorfer credits ''the hand of God''.
''We are both believers … but this right here, even a nonbeliever - you explain to me how this happened? There is no other explanation,'' he said.
Tracy Hermanstorfer, 33, was preparing for childbirth at the hospital last Thursday morning and her 37-year-old husband was by her side when she began to feel sleepy and lay back in her bed.
''She literally stopped breathing and her heart stopped,'' her husband said.
Pandemonium erupted as doctors and nurses tried to revive her with chest compressions and a breathing tube.
''I was holding her hand when we realised she was gone,'' Mr Hermanstorfer said. ''My entire life just rolled out.''
Doctors told him they needed to switch their attention from his wife and quickly remove his son. After the caesarean section, some of the team rushed his wife to the operating room while the others attended to Coltyn.
''They hand him to me, he's absolutely lifeless,'' Mr Hermanstorfer said.
The doctors went to work on Coltyn as his father held him, and soon he began to breathe.
Dr Martin estimates Mrs Hermanstorfer had no heartbeat for about four minutes.
Friends have asked Mrs Hermanstorfer if she saw a light or had experiences described by others who had survived near-death experiences. She didn't.
''I just felt like I was asleep,'' she said.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/mother-and-child-restored-to-life-20091230-ljup.html


Another Article with a little more info and a video
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34625348/ns/health-heart_health/

Kattus
31-12-2009, 12:43
Oh my goodness. It certainly is a miracle they are both ok now. I cant imagine how horrible that would have been for the husband :no:

Miaow
31-12-2009, 12:49
Yes agree the poor husband going throught that - as he said to have it all taken away and then to get it all back...

They were saying on the TV show this morning that pretty much as soon as they got the baby out the mother came back to life - A Christmas Miracle really...

~Temet Nosce~
03-01-2010, 10:26
I was just about to post this- it's pretty amazing.

Phyllis Stein
03-01-2010, 11:35
There was no miracle, just a media beat up to maximise views. :rolleyes: Apparently, the surgeons simply did exactly what is advised in such cases - empty the uterus, which relieves pressure on the circulatory system and allows resus to continue with a higher chance of success. Read here (http://hoydenabouttown.com/20100101.7112/in-which-i-clarify-a-few-things-about-resuscitation-of-pregnant-folk/).

~Temet Nosce~
03-01-2010, 11:40
meh I still think it's amazing. Never did think it was a miraculous act of god though. Let them believe what they want, what does it matter to you?

anewme
03-01-2010, 11:42
What a wonderful miracle.

Pippi Longstocking
03-01-2010, 11:46
There was no miracle, just a media beat up to maximise views. :rolleyes: Apparently, the surgeons simply did exactly what is advised in such cases - empty the uterus, which relieves pressure on the circulatory system and allows resus to continue with a higher chance of success. Read here (http://hoydenabouttown.com/20100101.7112/in-which-i-clarify-a-few-things-about-resuscitation-of-pregnant-folk/).

:yes:
From what I've read, it's far from a miracle. It seems that the woman went into cardiac arrest as a result of an epidural (http://www.scienceandsensibility.org/?p=903) - one of the (thankfully rare) potential risks.

Typical freakin' media. Never let the facts get in the way of a good Christmas miracle story eh?!

~Temet Nosce~
03-01-2010, 11:49
God some people are such pessimists. Don't bother being glad that mother and baby survived, just jump on the fact that the media changed the story and it was from an epidural :rolleyes:

Alexander Beetle
03-01-2010, 11:56
Yep science is pretty amazing

Pippi Longstocking
03-01-2010, 12:05
God some people are such pessimists. Don't bother being glad that mother and baby survived, just jump on the fact that the media changed the story and it was from an epidural :rolleyes:

Some people? Do you mean me?

Not a pessimist at all. Very glad mama and baby survived. I just don't think it was a miracle is all.

Also, eye-rolling is rude. :)

Phyllis Stein
03-01-2010, 12:30
meh I still think it's amazing. Never did think it was a miraculous act of god though. Let them believe what they want, what does it matter to you?

I don't care what people choose to believe, I do care if the media lies or distorts the truth for sensationalist purposes.


God some people are such pessimists. Don't bother being glad that mother and baby survived, just jump on the fact that the media changed the story and it was from an epidural :rolleyes:

I know, facts can be such a downer. :p

The Fox
03-01-2010, 12:47
wow what an amazing story, luck the mother and baby are both well also good to know how or why they both survived
were lucky we have such knowledge these days

~Temet Nosce~
03-01-2010, 12:51
Imagine how her partner would have been feeling, both when they 'died' and when they started breathing again, it's a wonder he didn't have a heart attack himself lol.

Boobycino
03-01-2010, 15:54
This was amazing!

That they family feel it was a miracle has helped me to reframe in my mind my own traumatic labour, which was followed a week later by finding Jasper not breathing in his bassinet.

While I've not felt 'sorry' for myself, its been the source of HUGE amounts of stress, fear and anxiety. But seeing how GREATFUL helped me to change my perspective that how lucky I was to have my baby returned to me, rather than thinking how unlucky we were to lose him in the first place (he wasn't breathing for a couple of horrorfying minutes and it took a few more minutes for him to regain consciousness)

And so I've been constantly afraid something might happen to him again, because it happened for absolutely no medical reason, so I look at him and he seems to fragile, so imperminant!

But now I think why would god have given him back if he wasn't mine to keep? :yes:

If my fears creep up, I just think how greatful I am for each and every day I've had with him!

Its a MUCH better place to be!