View Full Version : OMG i feel like throwing up *Possibly distressing*
JLeesmum
01-12-2009, 11:27
i accidently came across how an abortion is done, on you tube. OMFG is all im saying. has anyone seen this before?? or am i abit slow?:(
sockstealingpoltergeist
01-12-2009, 11:32
It depnds on which one? Many are posted by pro life groups for shock value and have been edited and altered to suit their agenda.
In other words I wouldn't take it as represenatative of abortion.
Whispers
01-12-2009, 11:32
Being prolife myself of course I have seen them. But be careful on what you watch a lot of videos shown are only there to cause this kind of reaction and you will find the majority of abortions are infact nothing like what you have seen. Late term abortions and partial birth abortions are quite sickening to me I no longer watch any sort of these videos as I know they will show me only the worse.
I will always be prolife regardless of how abortions are done as it is isn't the procedure,it is what is happening to human life.
Pixilocks
01-12-2009, 11:32
I have seen it before, on a website called abortiontv.com (not sure if its still around - it was for a school assignment)
Pretty horrific. I don't really want to say anything else, as I don't want people that have had one to have their faces rubbed in it... its not fair and I'm sure they don't want to know about it.
Not directing this at you smashlee, but for anyone that posts in this thread... just remember people make their choices based on circumstance, if you do not wholly understand all emotion and circumstance behind a decision, you are in no position to judge. (Just thought this has the potential to open up a real ugly can of worms...)
JLeesmum
01-12-2009, 11:45
meh, open the can of worms if people wish.
i understand that if someone has had an abortion, im sure they had their reasons.
i dont think a lot of people know how its done- i certainly didnt
sandy cheeks
01-12-2009, 11:46
I wont watch them most (all) are posted by pro-lifers so they have a biased pov they do it for the shock value and so people react.
And of course a abortion is not going to be nice (neither is a rootcanal) why watch it I just dont see the point of watching something like that.
sandy cheeks
01-12-2009, 11:51
Can I ask a question how did you think it's done?
Pixie dust (I hate to be a smart @$$) but from all the medical things I have seen not one has been a nice procedure.
JLeesmum
01-12-2009, 11:54
i had never really thought on how it was done,
and just to answer any curiosity.. i didnt look it up, i was watching a video of a friends baby, then i left the computer, i came back and the computer was playing a list of videos...i was thinking " what the **** is this", then i looked at the title.
Pixilocks
01-12-2009, 12:10
SandyCheeks - I completely agree... I can't think of one nice medical procedure! I was just hoping that people's feelings be spared is all :)
As someone who has had several open heart surgeries, I don't like thinking about it really or talking about it... even though its something that has happened. I have seen OHS performed on another patient (as a trainee nurse) and its really really horrific, and I wouldn't really like to read about someone saying how it was so horrific it made them want to vomit etc...
I'm not being judgemental at all, just asking people not to be too harsh in their replies :) If I had an abortion I wouldn't love to hear about how horrible someone else thinks it is, thats all :)
(I'm not being judgemental, and its aimed at nobody in particular, just a sweeping statement.)
sandy cheeks
01-12-2009, 12:18
peace pixie :iagree:
Such a emotional thing to go through without the dodgy site by pro lifers (no helpful and kinda tacky)
Smashlee not talking about your post just those stupid prolife sites.
RoarsomeMum
01-12-2009, 12:23
meh, open the can of worms if people wish.
i understand that if someone has had an abortion, im sure they had their reasons.
i dont think a lot of people know how its done- i certainly didnt
Does it matter? the end result is the same no matter WHAT the procedure. And your right.. people who have had them do NOT want their faces rubbed in it, and not revealing the "details" of the "OMG I feel like throwing up" does not change that one freaking bit.
You think YOU feel sick.. HTF do you think the people who "had their reasons" feel? - you don't give a F&%k.. I am sorry about your horror for the unborn.. but more sorry about your lack of compassion for the ones of us here.. reading.. Or once we have the luxury of being born, growing up, being able to read, do we not count anymore???
Right to life is awesome.. But who wants it when those who promote it are so darn judgemental and cruel that they taint the world we live in FAR more than those they attack.
BabelFish
01-12-2009, 12:27
Yes, watch out for what the crazy pro-life lobby will post just for shock reaction.
Of course abortions aren't nice - considering what they are. And yes there are some horrific details given that many women have late-term abortions.
But also consider why anyone would want to post such a thing on Youtube anyway. You should have reported the video - they have rules about things like that.
Abortions are not nice procedures, but this kind of video posted by sensationalist scumbags who don't care about life at all, rather their interpretation of what it should mean, should not be seen by anyone.
If the fanatical pro-lifers (and there are many out there who aren't - I am pro life too, in my heart, but pro-choice in my head) really cared about life, they would be looking after all the mothers of these babies with education, support and counselling. Not going around posting horrific videos to scare the daylights out of people and push their agenda.
Laurens 1st
01-12-2009, 12:31
I came across some graphic pictures when googling information on my growing bub.. it brought me to tears, as Ive had an abortion in 2005, but never knew just what the procedure was until after. Thinking back, there was no excuse for what I did. Young and dumb me. For years Ive felt guilt over it. I spent weeks after crying myself to sleep thinking 'Ill killed my baby'. Seeing those images just made it come back to haunt me again.
I think its a shame that abortion is kept secretive and were not given all the facts until after we've done it and when its discovered by accident on google etc! If only Id known! Now pregnant again, personally I could never go through with it again. I dont want to label myself as 'prolife'. I just think women should be given the facts so they can make a propper informed choice. Shock value or not, someones got to show the truth.
BabelFish
01-12-2009, 12:33
I have had an abortion and was given all the facts prior to this procedure.
Not only that, I was offered counselling and support.
Early term abortions before 10 weeks are pretty much just a D&C. There is more that is at stake, obviously, but unless you've had a late-term abortion it's not quite the same thing and nowhere near as `horrific'.
And don't forget photoshop. It's the very dear friend of these kinds of groups.
leajones22
01-12-2009, 12:35
I myself have been through this procedure for reasons I don't wish to discuss. But before I did the clinic I went to told me exactly how it is done and showed me all the implements that are used. No it is not nice and yes it might make you feel sick.
There is not a day that I dont think about that bub and I definately have guilt enough of my own I don't need somebody else to make me feel worse.
As pp have said the video should never have been posted on youtube at all. Everybody has a right to choose what they do with their lives and these videos are there to make people feel guilt for making a decision in their lives that is one of the most hardest to make.
Shame on the person for posting the video in the first place.
mumma2ajem
01-12-2009, 12:35
meh, open the can of worms if people wish.
i understand that if someone has had an abortion, im sure they had their reasons.
i dont think a lot of people know how its done- i certainly didnt
:iagree::iagree::iagree:
you cant even express a opinion or a thought on here without having it blown way out !! i am the same as you if i had seen it i would have written something as well about it i had no idea how it was done either :no:
Does it matter? the end result is the same no matter WHAT the procedure. And your right.. people who have had them do NOT want their faces rubbed in it, and not revealing the "details" of the "OMG I feel like throwing up" does not change that one freaking bit.
You think YOU feel sick.. HTF do you think the people who "had their reasons" feel? - you don't give a F&%k.. I am sorry about your horror for the unborn.. but more sorry about your lack of compassion for the ones of us here.. reading.. Or once we have the luxury of being born, growing up, being able to read, do we not count anymore???
Right to life is awesome.. But who wants it when those who promote it are so darn judgemental and cruel that they taint the world we live in FAR more than those they attack.
Yes, what you wrote pretty much sums it up for me.
From my POV, starting a thread about any topic that requires sensitivity with the Title "OMG I want to throw up" is tactless and nasty and I would think has been posted to deliberatly cause argument.
I am surprised the Mods have not edited the title yet:(.
Whispers
01-12-2009, 12:45
I am sorry if this offends anyone but every has there right to a opinion and if it makes her wanna throw up then she is allowed to state it. She never said people who did it make me sick and I wanna throw up she said watching it made her wanna throw up it is a distressing thing to watch and could make anyone want to throw up and it is not a judgment against someone who has had one done. I mean would you be so offended if you had open heart surgery and someone wrote OMG I watch this video on it and it made me wanna throw up ???
I have to agree with whispers here. Not once has the OP casted judged on those who have had the procedure. I just watched the video now and was disturbed by the 'details', but regarding abortion, each to there own, I wouldnt judge.
sandy cheeks
01-12-2009, 12:56
Whispers I see your point my problem is more with stupid prolife sites that post such bull$h!t for the shock value I mean come on how do people think it's done, I got my tooth out and saw it happen in the mirror and watched ds's head come out :barf::barf:thats also full on yuck viewing.
I just think it's kinda stating the obvious and can be hurtful to people who have been in that position.
mumma2ajem
01-12-2009, 12:58
Yes, what you wrote pretty much sums it up for me.
From my POV, starting a thread about any topic that requires sensitivity with the Title "OMG I want to throw up" is tactless and nasty and I would think has been posted to deliberatly cause argument.
I am surprised the Mods have not edited the title yet:(.
i would of written the same title cause she was merely stating a thought like op have said ti is not as if she said anyone who has had an abortion makes me sick etc it was a statement in which she has every right to STATE
Whispers
01-12-2009, 13:14
Whispers I see your point my problem is more with stupid prolife sites that post such bull$h!t for the shock value I mean come on how do people think it's done, I got my tooth out and saw it happen in the mirror and watched ds's head come out :barf::barf:thats also full on yuck viewing.
I just think it's kinda stating the obvious and can be hurtful to people who have been in that position.
Yes I can see your point there. I just thought that some of the comments directed at the OP were a bit nasty. When in my opinion I did not think she meant to be hurtful to others.
delirium
01-12-2009, 13:17
oh dear, I can see this thread being closed soon.
My opinion - even as a pro lifer I don't see the point of this videos. I feel the same about circ videos that are also heavily bias, made by anti circers that show footage of the procedure without anesthetic for shock value, and it's not the norm here.
Do we really need to know the ins and outs? In a vast majority of cases I'm a big believer that information is power.... but I'm not so sure in this case. We all know the result of an abortion right? I also stumbled on an abortion video site a few years ago and OMG I still to this day can't get those shocking images out of my head. I never looked at this type of video since, nor will I again. :no:
Some things are best left unsaid, or unshown in this case.
sockstealingpoltergeist
01-12-2009, 13:21
i would of written the same title cause she was merely stating a thought like op have said ti is not as if she said anyone who has had an abortion makes me sick etc it was a statement in which she has every right to STATE
Yes she has every right to state her opinion, but perhaps a little tact in the title wouldn't go astray.
Opinionated
01-12-2009, 13:23
Aaah, so it's abortion this week. I might hang back until next week when we are onto elective c/s, formula vs breast or circumcision.;)
Whispers
01-12-2009, 13:25
Aaah, so it's abortion this week. I might hang back until next week when we are onto elective c/s, formula vs breast or circumcision.;)
Was thinking that myself (my time to shine;) kidding).
So far i think we have managed to get through with out arguments about prolife and prochoice. Hope it stays that way
Looshkin
01-12-2009, 13:30
Yes whisper, as PP stated I think it would be really insensitive to say that.
There are ways of discussing things without the emotive and slamming language.
Some women have had D& C's (what I'm guessing the OP is talking about?) because of a missed miscarriage and other problems as well before 12 weeks, so the process is essentially the same for those that have had their baby die in utero/ missed miscarried.
I'd be pretty upset if that had happened to me and someone made such damning comments with such an immature choice of language.
Janesmum123
01-12-2009, 13:37
i would of written the same title cause she was merely stating a thought like op have said ti is not as if she said anyone who has had an abortion makes me sick etc it was a statement in which she has every right to STATE
Exactly!!!
People have the right to an opinion...ohh except when it's not the opinion of the majority.
Regardless of the title, and whether it was insensitive or not, I think we all agree that these types of videos are rubbish? Sensational propaganda posted by pro-life extremists probably with the help of photoshop and other editing suites. Even the majority of most pro-lifers don't give these types of videos any credence. Case closed.
Looshkin
01-12-2009, 14:43
Exactly!!!
People have the right to an opinion...ohh except when it's not the opinion of the majority.
For petes sake, no not at all and I always feel particularly.. frustrated that this concept that you can't have an opinion that differs from the "majority" thrown around when more than one person simply disagrees with you.
Everyone can say what they think/feel.
That includes others who feel/think differently and expressing so and thus disagreeing.
I am often in the minority, the majority.. depending on who you are and what opinion you have.
This is all subjective and depending on those who choose to contribute on that threads topic on that day.
Many times almost everyone in a thread will disagree with me.
This does not take away from my opinion being mine and thus in my opinion a valid one.
I'm sorry if I was rude Smashlee, I just feel it was a really kneejerk and sort of thoughtless sort of comment yk?..
Sometimes when something causes a kneejerk reaction in us it is human nature to exclaim your feelings, but I really think it's important to 1. look into whatever has provoked that reaction, the pro life extremists lobby have never been one to allow truth and facts to get in the way of a good emotive strong reaction of disgust etc.
(There are countless cases of them doctoring footage, photos and most of it has been debunked, much like the notorious myth that there are far more 'late term' abortions than the 0.1% of abortions that do happen.. also that late term abortions are anything other than an induction, which 99% of the time they essentially are other than cases of severe deformity that mean a vaginal birth is not possible and a C section is too high risk for the mother)
Anyway the truth is something that can be discussed I think, is probably important to discuss as it is a very real reality in our society and myths that the pro life lobby send out onto the net breed a lot of ignorance and emotive reactions based on entirely false information and lies.. I just think the matter should be approached in a sensitive and thoughtful manner.
Much like going on to say, (to use the previous analogy) a heart mums forum where there will be people having to go through that procedure with their children and saying "zomg I just watched a video on what they actually do and I want to puke" ...
anyway just my 2 cents.
Fuchsia!
01-12-2009, 14:50
I don't go out of my way to try and traumatise myself and i don't understand why others do as well. I have never seen it, nor do i have any intentions of doing so.
Those videos are usually from pro-life activists who are after shock value so they can recruit some more people on their side.
I think this is a very sensitive subject and i think its needs to be spoken with tact in mind and remember that there have been members who have had abortions for many many reasons and some people that have had abortions that were regretted.
Please people bear in mind other peoples feelings before posting :)
Its nice to see the same old faces in these typical constantly repeated threads :D
Im over this subject completely and if your not planning to ever get an abortion then who cares how they do it, As gross as it is, im sure it wont affect your life in any extreme way.
Lots of horrible things happen in the world that were better off not knowing about unless we have to.
I just wanted to get my dribble in before the thread gets closed.
JLeesmum
01-12-2009, 15:22
whoa, 2 hours later and 3 extra pages..
i just think more people should know how it is done.
Mods, delete this thread if you like, i dont want to stir up the past for anyone else.
Fuchsia!
01-12-2009, 15:35
why should people know how its done?
Im a very inquisitive person, especially regarding the body, but this is one thing i never want to know. Its not going to change my life or my views so i don't see the point in purposely traumatising myself.
Theophania
01-12-2009, 15:45
I think that perhaps if people do see these videos, especially teenagers maybe they will take better precautions knowing what the consequences will be if they don't? I think that abortion is often used as a form of contraception for some and honestly when you hear about some women having 3 or more it's like somethings gotta give..
I understand its a woman's choice and try not to judge any woman who has to make this decision, however I think it is wrong to use it as a form of contraception, and I have known quite a few people in the past who do.
SassyMummy
01-12-2009, 16:55
I've seen a few pro-life anti-abortion abortion videos... and yeah, they're graphic and gruesome... but watch a video of a caesarean section. They're graphic too.
Actually, watch any video featuring surgery and you could find it's quite awful to sit through.
overitand36
01-12-2009, 17:07
:iagree: with Tiff086 but the problem is people who use it as birth control would not get the video either
the video just shows it like it is?? (I did not watch)
did people think it was going to be nice
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