immunisation

[jembelina]

Hi Guys,

i am a mum who does not immunise and I was just wondering if there are other mums out there who have also chosen not to have their child/ren immunised. All the mum's in my mothers group immunise and i really don' feel I can discuss it with them. Just curious to hear from others is all - thoghts, feelings, experiences,etc :)

[drewid]

Hi there :)

I would suggest you pay a visit to naturalparenting.com.au - there is an entire community of mums over there that are much like yourself in regards to immunisation! Not sure if there are similar threads on this forum, I havent' gone looking in that area yet!

[Ffrenchknickers]

Hi,

I am one! There have been a couple of threads on this site about the topic....I dont have time to go into it right now - dinner to cook - bt I might see you over at Natural Parenting sometime :D .

Nice to "meet" you

xxxKatie

[JJsMamma]

Hi everyone, I am a Mum who hasnt gone back to further immunise. Our son had very back reactions and then I started to investigate. I didnt want to in the first place but couldnt find any support on the subject and then wasnt able to make an informed decision either way. I can highly recommend some books on the matter if you like. Feel free to email me on ana@wizbang.com.au. Cheers Amanda

[Kamaikia]

Hi I'm just really want to know why you don't want your children immunised. I'm not here to judge - you are the ones who make the decisions about your children - just curious :)

[JJsMamma]

You sound a little defensive actually. If you would like to learn more you could visit http://www.avn.org.au/. Can also highly recommend for BALANCED view Vaccination ? It's Your Informed Choice by Dr Peter Baratosy - link to this book if you do want to actually read it is http://www.avn.org.au/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AVNI&Product_Code=viyic&Category_Code=B
:)

[mummyb]

hi
i think you all have the right to choose what ever you feel is best for your child and i also think most people who dont immunise think very long and hard about it before they decied .
but you have to admit that the majority of parents do immunise there children for the same reason ,they want whats best for there child too.
people are going to get upset that you dont immunise your child ,im sorry but they are .
some people dont realise how bad the reactions can be for some poor little babies and some people dont realise that all the children that are immunised actually protect those who arent .
its a very touchy subject and i think that if your going to tell people you dont immunise your children you should be willing to tell them exactly why, with out getting upset even if they are .
its great that we get a choice its great we have healthy kids its even great we can get on our computers and disagree on one thing but not on a hundred others.
basically what i wanted to say was everyone wants the best for there children because you choose one thing and i choose another dosent mean we shouldnt talk about it i think we should talk more so i understand why you choose what you do and you know why i choose what i do .
im not perfect so who am i to judge anyone !!!!!!!!
when you tuck your little one in at night i bet you want the same thing i do for mine .along happy safe life, and i hope no matter what they both get one:)
so tell me some more about your little ones reactions (how scary that must be ) ,about your doctors reactions to your desion .
i d like to i support you in your choices i think you must be a great mum cause if you werent you wouldnt care so much and im guessing you cop a lot of flak for your belief. this websie is all about support so lets stop judging each other and start enjoying each others tales from mother hood .
hope you have agreat night and i mean it i would realy like to know more .love mummyb
oh sorry about my spelling im so lacking in sleep :p

[Ffrenchknickers]

:)Nice post Mummyb. If everyone had your attitude, I would definately be mroe likely to post my reasons for not immunising. I have found in the past that these threads always deteriorate so I understand why people are reluctant to say too much about immunisation.

I have promised myself not to get into any more arguements on internet forums - it is so different to actually talking to someone face to face...so much easier to judge. SO many times I have come up against people insinuating that I dont love m children as much as I do becuase I choose not to immunise or that I am ill informed. While I know that it absurd, I have just decided not to get involved from now on. I know I have the choice NOT to argue, but for me, it is better just to keep quiet. IRL I am more than happy to explain my reaons why.

All I will say that it is a choice everyone has to make - and one that shouldnt be made lightly. Everyone has the right to choose what feels right for their family :D and I agree, we ALL do it out of love. There is not right answer to the question of vaccination, each to their own:)

[Kamaikia]

Hold on one second - my post was not meant to offend or seem nasty. I have good intentions. Not interested in a debate.

The reason I asked was because I do not know anyone who hasn't immunised there children. Ask me why I did immunise and I will tell you I did because it was reccommended. I have read alot about the bad side of immunisations and some of the facts do freak me out but I wanted more of a personal opinion - I don't like to read too many doctors opinions.

Also while I can understand some people would jump on you for your decisions its not fair for someone like me, who is really interested to get jumped on for asking?

I know as a mother how hard it is to have people constantly questioning every little thing that you do - I personally try not to do this. I'll ask the question - respect the answer - then take it all into consideration when deciding what I think is best for MY chile

[Ffrenchknickers]

Hi Kamaika :)

I hope you weren't offended by my post...in no way was it directed at you. I was not offended by your post at all. I understand the reasons you were asking...and I am glad that you are interested. I guess I was just trying to explain my reasons for not elaborating further...more in response to mummyb's post.

I hope that someone can answer the questions for you...I am happy to explain via PM if you want :) It is nice that you are interested.

xxxKatie

P.S Try www.avn.org.au for starters (and the other sites mentioned above)...but you have to be careful looking up vaccinations on the net, there is so much propaganda from both sides. As you would know if you have done alot of reading. I think the best thing to do is to read from as many sources as you can and then weigh up the facts, not the opinions IYKWIM. I think that somewhere on that AVN site there are personal stories and testimonies etc. so you might be more interested in that.

[mumof2girls]

Well said mummyb, couldn't have put it better myself and I agree with everything you said, we all do what we do with (hopefully) to make an informed decision and we all love our children and want to do what is best for our children. My children are fully immunised and they have never had a reaction to any of them but there is certaintly a lot more info out now then when my girls we younger. I work in childcare and often asked my thoughts about this subject and I tell parents to look up all the information and then make an informed choice, as my views could be different from there's and it is there choice, I'm not fussed either way as long as the children are loved, taken care of and healthy :)

[JJsMamma]

Hi everyone,

Sorry Kamaikia if my post was a little short but for many of the reasons the other mothers suggest re competition, judgment and arguments I wasnt sure how to take it and opted to offer a resource on the subject as the safest response.

I agree with much of what has been already detailed and find how everyone is respecting one another truly refreshing.

Its not an easy decision either way and parents on both sides have to live with their decision regardless of the consequences... As its been highlighted that parents who choose not to vaccinate have to live with their decision and so to do the parents who choose to and their child has an adverse reaction or worse.

I found many of the titles of interest to me from the AVN at my local library. Good way to read up without the expense. Also I think its wonderful that mothers/parents who choose to immunise are still open minded and interested to learn about why other parents chose differently. I wish there were more you like you...

Take care to all Amanda

[Kamaikia]

Thanks for that. you know we all make different decisions when it comes to our children - all of these decisions made of love - and I think people need to start respecting those decisions - its funny you all get bagged for not immunising - i get bagged for not breastfeeding, if its not one thing its another. Isn't this part of motherhood wonderful :)

[Nickster]

Firstly, I agree it's every parent's right to not immunise. I believed that myself, and told my GP when I was pregnant (who is also a friend of the family) what my views were. She then informed me of the growing number of cases she has personally seen of babies with diptheria and whooping cough suffering in the hospital where she also does rounds. I responded by thanking her for her input, but that I had read books on this and knew what I was doing. She then told me that she hoped those books were a comfort when I was potentially sitting at the hospital bed listening to Libby (needlessly) struggling for breath when she caught whooping cough. Point taken. I had my opinion, but the reality of choosing to possibly subject my adorable baby to this won out. I now get her immunised on a regular basis (and yes, I hate seeing those needles and she has a reaction each time and a few days grizzling) and continue to. I can't live with not doing it, considering what my GP said.
I'm sorry, I know a lot of you guys out there believe in what you're doing, but I cannot take a chance with my little precious girl. I know some of you will blast me for what I have said, but I am merely airing my opinion, something I hope this website will continue to champion.
Peace to everybody....

[TwoBlue]

My son is fully immunised but i do say each to their own :)

[JJsMamma]

Nicole I don’t want to blast you for your opinion. You are obviously well versed in the pros and cons and have made your decision. That’s all we can ask of ourselves.

It’s an interesting subject and even the GPs are in disagreement. I ask who do we believe?

You are lucky that your little girl didn’t have a significant reaction to her immunisations. There are parents who do choose to immunise and unfortunately have a very different story to tell.

Dr Baratosy the author of Its Your Informed Choice, makes a very good point that we shouldn’t be pressured out of fear to make the decision to or not to immunise. Because both decisions could see us as parents nursing our children in hospital as a result of those decisions.

I cant recommend highly enough It's Your Informed Choice by Dr Peter Baratosy. If anyone else has read it I would love to hear from you. For me it put allot of the issues into perspective. Not to say it was an easy decision and we are still searching for answers. But for now we choose otherwise.

Additionally I have read another book on Natural Family Health with a chapter on immunisations. It offers parents who do choose to vaccinate some wonderful strategies to consider to help reduce the risks. Ie single vaccines shots, waiting until they’re older and so on. Worth a read too! However doesn’t help stop the risks associated with the rubbish in the vaccines Ie mercury, formaldehyde etc. Really its a loose loose situation...


Best wishes to all

Amanda

[Briannabear]

Im just curious to know how you go getting your children into school. I have heard that its hard to get them accepted to school unless they are vaccinated. :confused:
My DD is fully immunised, but I figure that every mum does what they feel to be best for their baby - so who am I to judge either way! :)

[AM]

I'm a complete non vaxer, and all you need to have to get your child into any child care or school if records are asked for is a conscientious objection against vax form - you can download this off the internet, or get it from a GP, and you need to complete the details, and have it signed by a healthcare provider.

Un-vaxed children may be asked to be kept at home if an outbreak is occurring 'for their own protection' but that is about it!

Angie

[Briannabear]

Thanks! :) I was just curious! I dont know where that person got the information from. (on being hard to get into schools)

[AM]

The other common misconception out there, is that if you don't vax, you miss out on the immunisation allowance of $200 odd dollars.
Not true!
You need to lodge the conscientious objectors form with medicare before your child turns 18 months, and they will pay the full amount when your child is around 19 or 20 months old.

Angie