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Well, here we are, hopefully this month will bring us some good things:D
MODS - can you please sticky this, and unsticky the other months, and add november to the title, i know, i'm a PITA... :P
thanks tash for the new thread...I don't know how to make new ones and i can never find them, i just follow the links month to month :o
I was tossing up doing a new thread this afternoon, but I'm lazy:p
kaz a new thread is easy to do, up the top of the section(so in general chat for example), there's a button that says new thread, click on it and you just write a post, give it a name and press submit:)
ok, i just want to strangle dh right now:hair::banghead:
Just Add Water
03-11-2009, 19:40
What's up? (It's like the inlaw rule we were talking about - surely there should be exceptions)
surely its an exception...
j is a right horror to dress, got him into his suit and sleeping bag, only to find the suit is now to small (put legs in last...), so after that screaming match, then had to undress, and redress, and in the meantime, with all of this CRAP weather (not hot enough to dry anything, not cold enough for the heater) my nappies are taking forever to dry, so it's a sposie for overnight tonight, well, i can hardly get a sposie done up anymore, i hardly ever use the bloody things, josh grabs the tab, opens it, crawls away, pees, FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so, finally dressed, and dh walks in, i scream at him, which i know, bad me, but, ffs, im frustrated as all hell with J, GAH GAH GAH!
so now we're fighting AGAIN FFS!!!
im sorry, this is all so minor compared to everyone elses problems, im just ****ty on everything at the moment!
Just Add Water
03-11-2009, 20:05
Oh it's not minor at all!! I'm sure men walk around with their head up their **** most of the time. They just cruise on in at the end of it all and then we're meant to just "get over it". ***** it - be ****ty and let it all out. Christ you deserve a bloody medal for the amount you've put up with on your own... if he's home walk on over to him, hand him J and either go and visit someone or get in a bath and leave him to it.
'Bout time you started getting five minutes to yourself.
trifecta
03-11-2009, 20:19
Oh Tash :hugs:, Joshy is trying to tell you doesn't like the sposies! I know how much it pi****ed you off and it would me too don't worry! Very frustrating and DH not helping just makes it so much more frustrating.
I tell ya, these boys are just too darn cheeky and cleaver.
uh oh gotta run, DH troubles of my own... (he sick, gah worst thing ever!)
Well speaking of men, my little one (DS) decided that he didn't want me to help him pull down his pj's and undies to go to the toilet before bed so as I was waiting for him to do it he just wee'ed all over the toilet floor. :hair: He is such a slow coach - no wonder he couldn't hold it in but geez we were actually in the toilet! I keep telling myself, patience....
Jess, hope things work out for you and I hope that the steps your DH has taken are the 1st in improving everything for you. :hugs:
Mks the toilet floor was the most common place for dd1 to wee too. She knew she had to go but just a teeny bit late. It gets better.
LeeJ I agree with jaw, you do sooooo much, it really is time to take 5 for you.
HnB I hope he's not dying:p. Sick men are usually terrible whingers!
Dh and dd1 are off to get bread for the day(they ride down to the bakery), and dd2 is already back in bed for a nap(yep, at 6am!), so I'm going to enjoy a long HOT shower!
K thinking of you today, I saw she's got court today on the news. I hope it's not too distressing for you and your family. We're all here for you.
Jess, sounds like M is taking some more time out, now that he is 'responsible' for dd1, maybe he'll start seeing your way?
Yep, he sure ha changed a lot in just a few short days! He intended to take dd1 to work with him today, he took her with him yesterday, cooked dinner Monday night(even if it was just sausages on bread) and has taken over entertaining dd2 while I'm doing things. Currently it's 8am and he's sitting on the couch watching tv with dd1 instead of heading to work early.
Just Add Water
04-11-2009, 08:14
I hope it continues for you!!! I know when I walked out last year it changed things a lot - doesn't always happen but when I actually sit back I can see that he has made a lot of improvement. Like taking Bay last night so I could get some sleep before head heads away and taking the kids to school so I didn't have to wake Bay up.
Just saw your message - I'll get him to give you a call when he gets back from the school run :D
LeeJ - I had a dream about you last night :laughing: (scared? lol) Anyway, in my dream there was a big tent like a circus top and you were in the centre ring with a microphone and the tent was absolutely packed.... you were comparing a modelling show for every type of mcn out there... but wait - the models were grown men! PMSL!!!! It was so funny. You were wearing a dress that was covered in pictures of nappies. Ah, I know, you've often wished for it to happen. :p
Just Add Water
04-11-2009, 08:19
Oh, it cut my post off...
MKS - Master 5 would often get to the toilet and just stand there as well - it was like stage fright and I think sometimes they're just rushed and so focussed on getting there that they forget what they need to do when they get there. I'm getting our boys a "wee target" from Darlings Downunder as I'm fed up with the mess (yuk! yuk! yuk!)... it's a little target you sit inside the toilet for them to aim at - might make him more eager to go :D (And yes, further proof that playing games with their penis starts from a very young age).
Smashlee - I think you were asking about naps? Bay has only started in the last month or so, he generally has a 2 hour nap from about 9.30 - 11.30 and then he'll crash again about 2 and then again at about 5.30. But he's been sick so we're all over the place. Last night he went to sleep at 7.30, woke up at 11.00, back to sleep at 1 (yes, am), bottle at 4.30am and he's still asleep at nearly 9.30 now). He sleeps when he's tired, he's pretty much set his own time frame for sleeps and I'm happy with that.
Howdy everyone else :D I'm off to do some bloody washing. Oh and fix up Miss 5 & Master 6's room - have a look in the general advice / chat section - they're now sharing. LMAO - too funny!
it's amazing how something as simple as sitting down wathcing tv with dd1 makes your day a TONNE easier :hugs: Hope this new found M makes a permenant appearence.
I have been here, watching how things are going, and you have been in my thoughts, just havn't been able to put into words what i want to say:(
I hope you are going ok, wish i was closer to give you a hand.
Wish i were closer to alot of you actually, i'm sure we would be a great help to one another.
kris, my gosh women, that is a FUNNY dream:laughing: yes, i've wanted to be in your dreams for a long time now:cloud9:
Jess I hope the next couple of weeks go well for you and you can work with DH to get some clarity about where you want to go from here and how you can make it happen. Maybe the tyre saga was a blessing in disguise.
Tash - I have been well known to scream at Rich "can you just help me" when I am trying to get a nap on, dress and get F into his sleeping bag. It is a bloody 2 person job these days as even when I can manage to hold his legs he is so strong he just throws his body up in a bridge and twists. It is always the last horrid end to the bloody day. There is usually screaming involved too.
Kris - - I LOVE that dream. I dreamed the other night that I was holding felix's hands walking (as we do a lot IRL) and he threw my hands away and started walking around the living room. Hope it is not a prophetic dream. I really really don't want him to be walking pre 12 mths.
Marie - Have you been keeping Ella's sleeping habits under your hat to stop everyone crying??
AFU - Rich is home, hooray! F has got his 3rd tooth without much fuss but the fourth is sitting right there about to pop through and the poor little mite had a shocker with it yesterday. Hopefully it will come through today for him. I am also semi confident his is saying 'dad dad' with meaning, but how can you really tell? He looks straight at Rich and says it, but then he also randomly says it all day so I guess he is the only one who really knows. Also so so close with crawling. He propels himself around no probs but spent basically all of yesterday up on hands and knees rocking, moving his hands forward in 'steps' and screaming with anger. Went backwards a couple of times so I feel like we are probably days away, BUT he has seemed like he is about to crawl for about 2 months so who knows!
Rich wants to go to Sydney for a long weekend but I am over it, feel like we have been on the move a lot lately and really can't be bothered heading off on another trip.
JLeesmum
04-11-2009, 09:32
JAW- try putting a 10c peice in the loo as a target.. it wont flush..
ans as for putting on nappies..yep, definatly getting harder these days!! DS see's me with a nappy then crawls off in the other direction..grr
and talk about cheek..he now knows what he isnt allowed to touch, so he will just look at me, wait for me to say 'dont touch" then go and touch it..things like the dogs ball, the broom, the dvd player...
oops, bubbas waking, i better go put a loada washing on.. ill be back!!
smashlee - OMG Cady does the same thing, but it's with the curtains. I always say "ahah! don't touch!" then she looks at me and repeats "ahaha" laughs at me waits for me to turn around and then goes for them again. :hair: cheeky monkey!!!! I've found making sure to have a very pronounced cranky face and voice when I'm saying no and then when she leaves them along go back to happy face and voice, seems to be working.
Tash - grrr to DH they really dont get how frustrating the day can be, especially with the kidlets at this tweeny stage, they're so curious and developing a sense of independence that they want to go off and do their own thing, not boring stuff like getting dressed or putting on nappies that they get cranky easily. Cady likes to sit up to get dressed so we have a special "dress time toy" that she only gets to play with while she's getting dressed, it seems to keep her amused long enough to dress, nappy change and brush her hair :rolleyes: for now anyways...
kar - how about a home holiday? just short day trips to places local that you haven't been like a picnic at the park or something, Rich gets a change of scenery but you get the comfort of going home when you've had enough.
JAW - you crack me up, you're so funny :laughing:
Jess - :iagree: I'm liking the new improved M also lets hope he's here to stay
mks - i know its a bit of a weird idea, but have you thought for the time being of lining the floor with newspaper or something so you're not constantly scrubbing the toilet floor every time DS wants to try to wee? you can just chuck the paper in the bin and give it a mop at the end of the day instead?
hnb - is it man flu??? agh how i hate man flu... :gloomy:
AFU - just spent the entire morning on the phone to telstra getting bounced around from caller to caller. Stupid idiots are "updating their billing platform" and decided to creat two accounts for me. They've been sending my housephone bill, quaterly, to my new address and then billed my internet, monthly, to my old address WTF... needless to say my net was suspended so i sorted it out today and they've gotten it right again...fools...if its not broke don't fix it!!!
gah gotta run...Cady is awake will finish the update later
trifecta
04-11-2009, 10:42
JaW - That dream is excellent! Ha I can just see Tash doing that too, and I must say a nappy print dress sounds fab :laughing:
mks- that will be all of us in a few years to come with the tt - kids weeing everywhere! ah don't want to think about it yet, but it sounds like it's a common problem.
DH just has a 'dribbly nose'. Ha poor thing, was in bed by 8pm last night sniffing away but of course refused to take something to dry him up. I really hope he's not getting a flu, cause my goodness he really is the pits when he's sick. Doesn't move and complains like nothing else. Makes me very grumpy trying to look after two boys.
:laughing: Just had to share my sleep deprived moment. I just popped indie in her high chair with some toys and went to the kitchen to do something, walked back out, looked at the couch, no indie, looked at the floor, no indie, thought OMG where did she go then looked at the highchair and remembered I'd put her in there:o:laughing:. Short term memory loss. hmm!:laughing:
its soooooo hot....:barf: how the hell did we cope with this heat with big bulging pregnant bellies????
had a good chat to DP last night, sorted a few more bits and peices, i'm sure he'll forget in another months time though :rolleyes:
the topic cameup about being tired and I said "i haven't slept for almost 8 months" crying at the same time, and then progressed onto DP talking about the possibility of #2 (he really wants more kids) and I just violently burst into more tears almost screaming "nonononono i can't do this again nononono that means it will be YEARS until I get sleep nononononNOOOOO!!!!" DP said that he could see real FEAR in my face. I can laugh about it today but noooooo I think I'll wait until Cady is almost at school and I've had a good few years of sleep before we consider this road again
on the topic of sleep, she woke up much less last night, despite the evil heat. She went down at 8 was asleep around 8:30 woke up around 11:30 just gave her the dummy and then she slept till around 5, quick nappy change and back in bed and then she got up at 7:30, although I was woken by DP's alarm at 6, but i felt much better this morning compared to the last few weeks. :yelclap:
shes supposed to be napping at the moment, she keeps tossing her dummy. I've tried the dummy chain, she's figured out how to undo it so I give up. I can't be ar$ed getting down on my hands and knees and searching every corner of the frigging room for her favorite dummy, so she gets the dummy she's given, tough, she threw it she can deal with it. She'll learn eventually, if she throws it away then its gone.
Kar, I am sorry to say there are no sleeping secrets - it certainly isn't anything I am doing right :p She is just such a good girl (when it comes to sleep anyway). The good news for you is that I had one who wouldn't sleep 1st time round so there is hope for you yet :laughing:
Now that she has started crawling though I am in BIG trouble. She is going to be a wild one (just like her big bro). Yesterday she halg got into the TV unit and lay on the foxtel box.
Me, I did something similar a few weeks ago at playgroup. I was holding Ella and Michael was sitting in the pram. I was walking out to the car and could not for the life of me find him and started panicking cause we were in the carpark. My mum had come that day and she reminded me that I was pushing him :o
Anyway, better go and do some cleaning up since Ella is sleeping and Michael is watching TV.
Just Add Water
04-11-2009, 12:57
Me - I do it all the time when Bay isn't here, or when I go to the shops without him. When he was gone on the weekend I was outside playing with the dog when I heard a baby scream, I started to bolt inside and them remembered he wasn't here and that our new next door neighbours have little baby too lol
does anyone know when we can give baked beans to bubs??? JAW you got me craving baked beans :laughing: and I felt bad coz Cady had crappy mushed avocado and she soooo badly wanted my beans so I gave her a little bit of the soggy toast just to taste and she wanted more :o
JLeesmum
04-11-2009, 13:42
karice, ive given J baked beans. the salt reduced ones.. our babys can eat anything now exept for honey! ( well thats what ive been told) .
and yes ive "thought" id forgotten Jyden a few times.
and i don t know how i did it but i made a good sleeper.. :D sleeps 6.30pm-5.30am then every 2 hours he goes down for 2 hours... :D
uh oh.... i havnt told DP but i went off the pill a few days ago..............
also, i won $50 on the cup! i put $5 on a win for number 21! im about to go get my money Smile
i told DP i would be back in 2 mins (left him with DS) while i went to the pub to put a bet on... i ended up staying an hour...lol
i think he heard me pull up, so he ran to he washing to make it look like he was doing something...lol
Just Add Water
04-11-2009, 15:20
Kaz - I'd be with Cady on that one, I'd keep the avocado and you can have the baked beans... yuk! I can't stand them. It's the texture. blech.
I am thinking of baking a pie though... containing two children. OMFG they are going to be the death of me. But I'm having fun with Master 9 - just gave him an ice block, because in all fairness he has been fabulous for the last few weeks - seems to have grown up a lot recently. Asked him to go and grab the pegs for me, for no other reason than I knew the feral two would see him eating an ice block and know it was because he's been good. God I really am such a *****. :devil:
Just Add Water
04-11-2009, 15:22
Oh and I have a thing here to pick up a registered package... I think it's my Isoki Nappy Bag that I won Yay :D ( no idea what the hell I'm going to do with it though, I already have two and I really am a kmart type of girl - never in a million years would I spent $190 on a nappy bag - or anything really...) But will have fun using it anyway. Can't wait to see what design it is.
cheers smashlee, i'll give her some next time :D yeah, i told the nurse the other day that i can't get Cady to eat baby foods, she'll only eat mashed / blended people foods so I always end up pulling some aside for little miss and that usually puts 2 or 3 tubs in the freezer also for lazy days :o the nurse said "well...have you ever actually tasted baby food? yuck! if she's tasted your cooking I doubt she'll go back to that cr@p" :laughing:
also...she's decided that she's far too grown up for sippy cups :rolleyes: so now when I'm drinking a big plastic tumbler of water I have to share it with her
DP just walked past covered to high hell in dirt from work, he gets undressed in the laundry and then does a walk to the bathroom in his undies...for some reason he gave me a weird look and said "are you writting stuff about me?" I told him no and then he said "why do u have a guilty look on your face?"
so...if he wants me to write about him I will...
HE'S WALKING AROUND IN HIS UNDIES AND HE'S SMELLY FROM THE HEAT AND COVERED IN DIRT...HOPE YOU'RE READING THIS LEE THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR BEING A STICKY-BEAK :laughing: NERNERNENRNER :raspberry:
Just Add Water
04-11-2009, 15:34
PMSL Kaz!!
Bay's favourite toy is a coffee cup. Seriously, he kept trying to get the ones we were using so I've given him one to play with in his playpen. He loves it. Between that and his new shoes I really have no need to buy him anymore toys.
LAW, my nephew was a right terror, and then hit around 8 years old, and just 'grew up', tantrums gone, helpful young man. it's been a treat having him round now:)
:laughing: Kaz!
:laughing: JaW, its cruel but so funny too!
JLeesmum
05-11-2009, 10:45
NICE JOCKS LEE, theres a secrect webcam set up :P.
JAW- do you need and extra kid for the pie? mines nice and sweet.. Smile
J managed to eat w hole piece of jam toast yesterday.. well...unless he gave it to the dog..
speaking of the dog...Jyden was eating a bickie, i turn around and he is holding it out to the dog, who was very slowly trying to take it. jyden was laughing his head off!!
went to the pool yesterday, it was FREEZING i put Jydens toes in, expecting him to scream, but he started laughing so i put him right in..
then i went o take a photo on my phone, i was holding him with 1 hand (under his armpit, in standing postion) then he buckled at the knees and went face first ino the water, so with my phone still in one, hand i pulled him out.. he laughed, but my phone broke :(. definatly a Picses that boy!
hmm still deciding what to do today.. the important chores are done..
Just spent the whole morning cleaning and tidying only for it to get messed up again in 1/2 an hour :hair: Sometimes I think it is better if I go out all day cause less time at home means less mess.
Kaz my DH always asks me what I write on BH. He does not understand it at all. He also makes fun of FB - he thinks it's a load of "crap".. well suit yourself and stop looking over my shoulder when I type! I have also busted him logging into my FB account :laughing: Too cool for his own page but interested enough in the goss..
mks- thats gold :laughing: set him up a FB account for xmas
smashlee - bugger about the phone
JAW - Cady loves shoes and cups also. She has a big bucket of colourful musical interactive wonderful toys but no...its plastic cups, shoes, a book and my laundry that she choses to play with. its the simple things in life so i'm told...
Today was 'jaccaranda thursday' in our town, happens every year coz we're like the jacca tree capital of australia lol. Every street is lined with the damned things so they have a big festival (not sure why its always a thursday) a parade and markets and stuff. They close of the main street of shops and heaps of the stores have a theme and put on costumes and paint their windows and crap but its all good fun. I bought most of our xams pressies for the relos at the markets so it was a good morning. tired now though, have done nothing housework wise and i don't intend to cook. DP has booked the night in advance lol so its going to be takeaway. I'm sure he won't complain at fish and chips, god knows he loves it.
need caffine...need child to sleep...and need caffine :sleeping:
trifecta
05-11-2009, 14:35
Sounds like a nice day Karice : ) I love Jaccaranda's :)
I'm so not thinking about christmas yet! This year has just gone too fast already, I don't want xmas yet, I'm not ready!!
Nothing new to report here, J is getting better at his sleeps yay! Meaning he actually is staying asleep for his day naps in his cot. Still a bit of a battle to get him asleep but it's getting better. He goes down pretty well at night now too, of course still wakes 2 or 3x, but hey I'm not picky :p
I just brought a lil baby tamborine - it's so cute and he LOVES it. He bangs it around and shakes it and giggles every time. SO cute.
Just a quick 1 handed post, tooth #6 cut this morning:smiliedance:.
Also very sadly last night we moved her cot down to the lower setting, shes not impressed:(, my babies growing up!
JLeesmum
05-11-2009, 17:23
me-6 teeth? wow! how are YOU coping?
hubnbubby- funny you should say that, i acctually got my electric guitar out for the first time in months, let Jyden have a play..have to teach him young..lol
is my boy the only one here not pulling himself into standing postion yet??
and if you dont mind could you all please refresh me on what day your bubbas were born.. cheers!
Lol I'm doing well. I really do swear by her teething necklace. She doesn't grizzle during the day but does first up in the morning and wakes lots at night, both times when she doesn't have her necklace on.
Indie was born on the 10th, she's not pulling herself to stand yet either, or crawling, but has just started to sometimes either bum shuffle around(maybe 30 cm at a time) or push herself backwards on her tummy.
stupid free online RPG games....they're so addictive!!! I get nothing done!!!
Felix isn't pulling himself up yet, he was born 24/2. BUt if you you hold his hands he does it so I guess not far off, there is nothing really he can use in our lounge though - the couch is too high and I am glad!
Incoming vent...
:hair: DH drove 6 hrs north west yesterday afternoon for work, arriving 8:30/9pm last night. He didn't go to sleep until late, got up early and has been doing a full on day today. I was just chatting to him before and he said he's coming home tonight. I said it's not worth it to drive 6hrs home tonight when he's already tired, it's just not worth an accident. He can get up and drive fresh tomorrow morning and still be home around lunch time anyway. I told him I have a bad gut feeling about him driving back tonight but he's just not listening. The best he'll sway is "I'll see how I feel":rolleyes:. He knows I've got pretty good intuition when it comes to these things and I've said no don't do it, so that should be enough. Just soooooo frustrating that he'd even contemplate driving back. It's unsafe, not just for himself but for the other people on the road. He'll be tired tomorrow and won't want to do much anyway, it's pointless:hair:. Why can't men just listen, even if it's only sometimes?:shame:
Just Add Water
06-11-2009, 16:08
DH has done that many times too... and I've always told him not too... but he does.. I've given up. But completely understand where you're coming from.
We are going to a friends house for dinner... I don't really want to go as we're all sick but meh, it's a free feed and I haven't seen for for a while :laughing:
I just found out some horrible news.... really close friend of ours (like basically our family here) have had their eldest (same age as our eldest) at the hospital and police station all night and today as she complained about being drugged by a friend of theirs when he was looking after her... god, it's awful. They are so wary who looks after their kids (it took forever for me to convince them it was okay to leave them with us so they could have a break) and this is someone they have known for over 10 years and longer for the DH.... The DH of our friend is away but on his way home now and I would hate to be this guy.... I am ready to kill him and it's not my child. And now they're also blaming themselves for putting their daughter in this position. I hope to christ they get some evidence on this ******* and he gets put away for ever. I've commented before that I always thought his relationship with their kids was strange but they always said about how they'd known him so long, didn't have kids of his own yada yada yada.... Tie him down, cover him with honey and let the answer eat him slowly.
trifecta
06-11-2009, 16:28
God JaW that's awful. There are some freakin creaps out there it gets me so mad that I hate watching the news for stories like this.
My thoughts are with the family, that poor girl will be scared for life. I truly don't understand how anyone can hurt a child :confused:
I hope he gets a long sentence.
Me - I hate that feeling that something is going to happen, even worse when they won't listen. Now you are going to be stressing all night. Hopefully he will be to tired when he finishes the job and doesn't attempt the drive. I'd come over and chill with ya if I was there.
:flowerz::flowerz: happy weekends all :smiliedance::smiliedance:
Jaw that's horrible, I really hope she's ok and he'd want to hope NOT to get bail!
Wow JAW that is awful. Is there evidence of anything else other than drugging thw child? Yuck, makes my skin crawl.
Smashlee, Ella is not pulling herself up yet. She was born on the 10th (Me our girls are b'day twins!) and she has been crawling properly only for about a week. She was shuffling on her tummy for about a month though. She also has no teeth. Is she the last one???
Kids are fast asleep and I have just painted my toenails. Question now is, do I go to bed or start our taxes?? Hmm....
J has been crawling for 3 weeks, all fours crawling, pulling himself to standing for the lsat 2 weeks.
He has no teeth yet either.
J was born 27/3, a week overdue.
JAW - how awful for the family and the little girl :(
Jess - I know you're worried about DH driving and that but on the plus side at least he was interested in making an effort to get home for you
Cady was born on the 15/03 but she was 2 weeks overdue...induced on the friday 13th and she didn't arrive until sunday morning
RE Crawling - sometimes i think she's oh so close and other times i think she's just weeks and weeks away. She just squirms around on her belly and after about 5 mins gets really upset. She's started to slightly lift her bum in the air for like 1 second and then she goes backwards getting more upset...or just puts her head down and lays there looking miserable :o I don't have the heart to leave her there so I always let her sit up. DP gets up me saying she'll never learn if I keep caving in and picking her up every time she whinges but I just can't stand hearing her upset when I know its me making it happen.
She stands up in her cot or against the couch and shes started wanting to take those first few steps but just falls over :laughing:
I've decided that i'm not going to put her to bed straight after a bath anymore. She''s going to have her dinner, bath get ready for bed but sit up for half an hour so that her dinner has time to go down a bit. Since we've changed her milk feeds during the day she's wanting more solids. Before for dinner i would struggle to get 10 or 12 mouthfuls, now she's having 175ml tub of food AND a can of custard :laughing: then wants at least 180mls of milk at bedtime so i think we're back to oh too full before bed and she's just not settling. once she's asleep she's much better, she slept from 11pm until 6am and she's just having another doze before breakfast now. I think I wont give her any toys after bath, she can have a book to play with and her teddy and just roll around on the floor in the lounge with us for half an hour. (she LOVES books, i usually read it to her and then she plays with it, opening it and touching it and smacking it all good fun)
ahhh the girl stirrs...DP had to go to work this morning, after 10 days i was kind of looking forward to him being home but he gets paid a full days pay for 3 hours work so i'm not going to knock it back!!! Oh and our newspaper has a big hole cut into it...Dp's not very good at being sneaky lol...i found the missing peice of newspaper scrunched up as it didn't make the bin...it's a vacuum cleaner mega sale thats happening in coffs on sunday and DP asked me if he can go to coffs with some mates...i said yes..lol...looks like i'm getting a new vacuum cleaner as a surprise :smiliedance: he doesn't know that i know :devil: my old one is just about dead
trifecta
07-11-2009, 08:18
Morning! Karice that's kinda sweet that Lee had to cut out the vacum cleaner from the paper! Me and DH are pretty bad with presents or suprises, if there is something we need/want we generally just buy it so come present time it's impossable.
Well I was all excited at 3:30am this morning because J man slept from 7:30 - 3:30 without a stir :yelclap: It was sort lived though, cause then he refused to go back to sleep :( After an hour I gave up and brought him into bed with me, then the cat started, then DH alarm went off and he got up, then it was light and the birds started..... lol
I'm going to try have a sleep when he has his morning nap I feel!
J isn't really pulling himself up on furniture yet, but pulls himself up on me all the time. Is SO close to crawling, I wake up every morning and wonder if today is the day.
O.k, must be breakie time...
Just Add Water
07-11-2009, 09:42
HOW THE **** AM I GOING TO COPE WITH THESE ****ING CHILDREN WITHOUT DH HERE???!!! I'M GOING TO ****ING LOSE IT, I SERIOUSLY FEEL LIKE BELTING THE ABSOLUTE ****ING **** OUT OF THEM ALL, PACKING THEIR ****ING BAGS AND THEY CAN GO AND LIVE WITH THEIR STUPID ****ING ***** COW OF A MOTHER.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry. :o I am going to keep my head down today and do washing. I hate that my body can't cope without little ****ing pills.
JAW, remind me to stay out of your way today! lol.. Hope the day gets better as it progresses. :hugs:
I started our taxes last night before I went to bed and worked out that in the 2008/09 financial year we spent $20,000 in medical expenses! About $6800 out of pocket! Oh my God!! So that's where all our money went :laughing: The majority of it was my pregnancy/birth and Ella's stay in hospital with bronchialitis but still... I think maybe if there is a next time I really do need to go public.
oh kirs :hugs: give me a call if you need to vent in person, ill pm my number
Just Add Water
07-11-2009, 13:29
Blah feeling better now. Though I think Bay is the only person in this house that hasn't been sworn at today :o. I have apologised though... they're just doing my head in and I'm sick and tired and stressing about everything and yada yada yada yada.
So anyway I went and had a shower to take some time out... well I sat down in the shower and shut my eyes, not realising I was actually covering the plug... after 25 mins in the shower DH and I then spent nearly an hour mopping up our ensuite and bathroom, the carpet is soaked and we're out of towels lol Good thing we were planning on shampooing it anyway this week. Good job me!
Speaking of "me" - how did your DH go?
Very quick as indies grumping. He stayed and drove home today which was a relief for me.
I'm of to a party tonight so bought myself a lovely new dress and bra and had my eyebrows waxed. Just need some sleep and I'll feel top of the world:p.
Better get the grump:D
JLeesmum
08-11-2009, 09:38
good morning..
well this weekend was the first wekend since J was born that we decided DP could sleep in saturday, and i would sleep in today..
sigh. we were both wide awake at 4.30am both mornings..the sun somes up WAY to early..(no daylight savings here).
went to perth yesterday to do some shopping YAY. gotta love big W and best n less.
haha DS did a BIG poop in the drive thru to maccas so we pulled up in the car park so i could change him (gotta love the new car..i changed him in the boot (station wagon)).
i put some newspaper underneath him (its all i had handy). then looked at his bum after id cleaned him and he had a big .COM.AU on it.. hehe so cute.
sorry if TMI but this poop was really runny and had dark streaks in it..do you think that could be a teething thing? or im thinking maybe he picked something up off the floor..(he had only eaten mango, banana, and a few bickies the day before)
oh, and i bought a swimming tube for J with a seat in it.. says 3 month to 12 months, then when i got home i realised its 11kg max RRR
isnt it funny how different our babys are crawling etc..
Jyden isnt crawling with his Knees up, its more like a commando crawl..but geez he can move quick!
i dont think he is too far off pulling himself up now..altho it must be hard at 11kg..lol
and he still cant go from laying to sitting..
i just found out the have a mums and bubs club here at the movies, they leave the lights dimmed, and turn the volume down a little bit.. its every wednesday.. im SO going next week..
i saw my cousins g/f yesterday, she is due in 9 weeks their having a girl called Bailey Ray.. so cute. im so jealous of her belly. sooo jealous that i went off the pill :O (hehe havent told DP yet.. he will be over the moon..
were still 'careful' so lets see what happens.. i still dont kow if im really ready or not, so i think ill let my body decide (it took 2 yrs TTC Jyden so im abit nervous it will happen again)...
any whoo.. the house is almost spottless so im going to go finish it so i can mess it up again..
i decided im going to take half of jydens toys and put them away, and swap them over every week so he doesnt get sick of them... :D
have a good day everyone! no doubts ill be back later..
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO my washing machine just broke :( some clothes got tangled (at 26 mins like its been doing for the last month) the the thingy in the middle just SNAPPED off...
and DP just just finfished work untill jan (he is a shearer so when the season finished he has to travel up to 500kms for work.. IF he can find any..)
that sucks
smashlee - bugger about the washing machine, what terrible timing...
me - woohoo the party and all the goodies to go with sounds great1 hope u had a fantastic time!
jaw - how r u feeling today hun?
mks - holy hell thats alot of medical bills!!!
hnb - congrats on the sleep! :smiliedance:
afu - im kinda feeling like a slack mum today :o DP had PROMISED me that he would do the nightshift for me last night and that he would let me sleep in. Well, he did not get up for cady once last night. Shes pretty bad with her teething at the moment, i've had to resort to neurofin and panadol and bongella and still she's awake screaming every half hour to 40 mins. Plus all the other jazz that goes with it like runny noes and sore bum. for the last 2 days ive been lucky to get one day sleep out of her so that makes her cranky on top of cranky. last night she didn't actually go to sleep properly until around 5am this morning. Dp FINALLY got up to her (after i kicked him litterally out of the bed) and changed her nappy but didn't tuck her back in bed properly so i had to get up anyway, gave up and plonked her in bed with us. she dozed for around an hour and half and then her and dp got up and i got another hours sleep before dp woke me up coz he didnt know how or what to feed her for breakfast....god he's so useless sometimes... so cady's just been plonked down in her play area, letting her go and watching her from the comp i just dont have the energy today so feeling pretty slack and sad about that
on top of that im sick, ive had no sleep, im out of toilet paper, he forgot to pick up infants yogurt also when he did the 'grocery shop' if you can call it that and he's taken my car and buggered off to coffs to play a stupid poker game so i cannot get much needed toilet paper as its pi55ing down with rain :gloomy: woe is me today....
jess - what is this miricle teething necklace you keep talking about? please tell me!!!!!
Just Add Water
08-11-2009, 13:24
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/sendtofriend.aspx?id=1670994
I am SO angry that this ******* has got bail. DH is on the phone to the father of this girl now, they are so absolutely gutted and heartbroken - even being so close to them I still can't imagine quite how they're feeling.
Stupid ****ing ******** (and yes you deserve that other word that stars with C!)
jaw - what a total load of sh!t that is...surfing the frigging net for porn is not the issue...drugging a little girl unconscious with god knows what intention is, banning him from a computer is hardly justice :banghead:
I agree with Kaz. What a joke! I'm sorry that you and your friends are going through this JaW(((hugs))).
Kaz the teething necklace is made of Baltic amber, the oils in the amber are supposed to be absorbed by the skin and have a calming effect on bub. Indies got 6 teeth now, at least 4 of them I've had the necklace for and the only time she really gets the grumps with her teeth is at night, which is when she's not wearing it. I was sckeptical about it working before I got it, but for us it's fantastic. I've not used bonjella, panadol or nurofen for teething since getting it. Wish I had one for dd1, but better late than never!
Well indie took a huge hit to her head this morning. She was sitting up, leant forward too far and hit her head on the bottom of her cupboard door tracks. It was a massive bruise and egg instantly which settled pretty quickly. We've watched her really closely and so far she's been ok. Dd1 seems to be unwell and is asleep on the couch atm.
I had fun at the party last night. It was a casino night and I played my first game of poker and won! I got to choose my prize and let me say it was a very difficult choice between a box of chocolates for me and a deluxe poker set for dh. In the end I chose the poker set. I was tempted not to tell him then give it to him for Christmas :o but I couldn't keep it a secret that long!
Anyway, I'm getting hungry so I'm off to find some snacks!
need to vent
so sick of the screaming :hair: so sick of the not sleeping... there is nothing i can possibly do that i haven't tried already she hasn't had a good day sleep for 3 days, all ive gotten out of her is one half hour nap since friday i just dont want to hear the screaming anymore, its been non stop for days. She wont let me anywhere near her mouth to give her bonjella which just upsets her more, nothing seems to be working :crying: F*** it i'm having a ciggy...
Just Add Water
08-11-2009, 19:23
Have you tried teething tablets Kaz? Bay hates them, tries to spit them out, but people swear by them. And they seem to work. I generally shove them in and then give him his bottle.
Well our friends have just left - still can't believe it. On top of that their youngest has a bad tummy bug so they're taking her up to the hospital tonight as she's not keeping fluids down and is quite dry. In good spirits though... court date is the 18th. If DH is around or I can organise someone to get the kids then I'll be there beside them but the reality is that I probably wont be able to make it... they have so much support, even with this dickwad tying to call all their mutual friends to rally support.
I am about to email a company that he's on their ad for... you know the Pay as your Drive ads? well there's 2 with guys on them, one is a young guy with a goatee and the other is an older guy with a round face - he's the older one. also on their print ads. So I'm contact them to tell them to take their ads down. If they don't well then I'm quite happy to spread that information around that their supporting someone like this.
Gah, so much stuff to do!!! I was up all night and didn't go to bed until after 5 this morning, slept for an hour and then dozed until about 10.30 watching tele with the kids... just couldn't sleep but I go SO much done it was fantastic.
never heard of teething tablets before, the chemist just shoved a bottle of nurofin in my face and said that should work in a 'bad' case of teething grrr
have given up tonight, i've swaddled her up which I haven't had to do for almost 3 weeks. kind of sh!ts me that we've had 3 consistant weeks of sleeping and settling without swaddling and now we're back to square one but she's stayed asleep for half an hour without a peep so i guess i should be happy really.
oh and we still had a massive projectile spew despite the new feeding routine tonight. I KNOW she hadn't been overfed so now i'm not sure if i should go back to having lots of bottles or not and if her extreme crankiness is due to not getting enough milk :crying: feeling quite useless today and second guessing myself. I know she's massive and overweight and needs to trim down at bit but still, i would hate myself if shes just hungry and i'm not giving her what she needs.
Just Add Water
08-11-2009, 21:07
Oh Kaz! have you tried giving her water? Bay has really taken to drinking water between feeds and he generally has sips during the night - I often wake up thirsty for a sip so I figure he's no different.
Hyland's teething tablets, try the health food stores. If you can't get them there let me know and I can post you up some (I know you can get them in Coffs though, there's a chemist at the big shopping centre - the one with target, not the one in town) that had them in June. I've given Bay some about an hour ago as he was screaming and after about 20 mins of cuddles and singing he calmed down, currently sitting up blowing raspberries at his father and gurgling his water :D
And Kaz? Honey, she's a baby, if anyone tells you she's overweight seriously tell them **** the hell off. My nephew was a big bubba and my sister had him on solids at 3 months on doctors advice because she couldn't feed him enough... he was simply a hungry boy - now a very fit, very healthy 14 year old (though still a big eater :)). Babies do not need to diet!!! (Do what you think is best & works for you & Cady, screw the rest of them!).
I'll probably be up most of the night again (damn insomnia is back) so will keep checking back to see how you're going. You're doing a great job - grab a mirror and tell yourself how far you've come in the last year, christ even the last bloody 2 months woman, you've had a ****ty time of it and essentially doing it on your own while butthead parties (and Lee, if you're reading this GET OFF YOUR ****ING **** AND HELP WITH YOUR DAUGHTER!!!!!!!!!).
oh Kris, you're awesome :hugs: thanks hun
in the end, i gave her a bottle after DP re-bathed her, swaddled her, some more panadol and didn't here another peep until 7am :rolleyes: this morning. She's quite good with water in between, I just dont think she can go that long in between meals, shes the kind of kid that prefers to have lots of snacks rather than just big meals, she's always been that way so im trying something different this morning. I've worked out that if she snacks as often as I think she might and misses a sleep then she'll be having 3 - 4 solid meals and min 600 mls of milk and max 720 mls of milk. Basically, i'm breaking up 3 big bottles into 6 half bottles so she has breakky and half bottle, then half bottle before nap as a snack, lunch and half bot, then half bot before nap or if its too late in the arvo then a solid snack and less milk, dinner, bath play and a full bottle before bed and then maybe another bottle before midnight which she somtimes wakes for. *sigh* who knows...she's not screaming this morning and shes been awake for 2.5 hours so far so i think im on the right track. I feel better for having 7 hours unbroken sleep though, and dont feel so sick today and cady's gums dont look so sore and swollen today :o shes back to her playful self thank christ
DP apologised for ditching me yesterday, he brought a peace offering of take away dinner and 2 massive blocks of choccy :laughing:
thanks hun
Kaz, provided you are not overfeeding with unhealthy foods like biscuits, ice cream etc I really wouldn't worry about her weight AT ALL.
Felix has 3 x big meals usually a main course then fruit and yoghurt and some finger food like rice thin with avo, carrot, beans etc. His milk intake is usually big BF at around 5 then a smaller top up feed around 9 am. BF around 11.30, small BF around 3.30 and big feed around 6.30.
I think splitting the bottles might be a good strategy - that is kind of what F seems to do himself BFing. We found yesterday when it was very hot here that adding some ice blocks to F's water bottle was a huge hit - he loved and gulped down about half his water bottle in one go.
JAW, my thoughts are with your friend and btw I am adopting your $5 payment plan!
her solid foods i would consider quite helathy, breakfast is usually half a weetbix with either 1/3 mashed banana or 3-4 stewed prunes and 60 mls of formula mixed together, lunch it usually toast with vegemite and yogurt or yogurt and fruit peices and dinner is blended what ever I've cooked, meat, veggies, pasta, rice, cheese etc... with a baby tin of custard for dessert. I might give her some custard late afternoon if she's refused an afternoon sleep earlier rather than filling her up on milk before dinner. She has drinks of water during all playtimes.
Since i've split her bottles up today, shes had good wet nappies again and she's sleeping soundly at the moment :fingerscrossed:
JLeesmum
09-11-2009, 09:49
karice- how much does cady weigh again??
this is what J ate yesterday..
1 weetbix and 1 banana for brekkie
roughly a 'tin' of pumkin
a piece of vegemite toast
1 bickie
1 jar of caramel custard (its the first time he has had that... and boy did it go to his head...lol.
and about 800mls formula
have u ever seen the baby custard by heinz thats in a box? its great! so handy! cheaper too
kar- i was told not to give J icy water.. im not sure why.. (maybe that was when he was younger..i cant remember)
Jyden has had a horrible snotty nose for a week now, no other signs of being sick.. could it be teeth? he didnt have any problems wi th the first 2..
any whoo.. i managed too.......(drumroll please).. vaccuum, mop, do dishes, put them away, clean up mess, dust, scrub the highchair and walker AND look at the broken washing mashine, all before 6.30am!
i think im going to rent a washing machine, and i need to do it soon.. the washing is taking over my house already!
go smashlee! what a productive morning! :D
yeah i get the custard in the box pack, how good is it? Cady weighs 10.15Kgs
well i have done a big fat nothing this morning just stuffed around playing computer games Cady has had AN AWSOME sleep this morning and is still asleep so i'm making the most of the peace and quiet sitting on my bum relaxing. I'll get to the housework later when she's awake :o i figured i deserved to give myself a break after the vile day on my own yesterday Cady's been asleep for over 2 hours now so i've enjoyed myself :D
JLeesmum
09-11-2009, 10:46
cady ISNT over-weight karice..Jyden is 11kgs.. its a gorgous weight i think!
not once have i had someone comment on his weight..
thats great she slept for 2 hours!!!
ds still goes down every 2 1/2 hours for 2 hours.. Smile altho sometimes it takes 30 mins to rock him to sleep
That's great kaz that she's had a good sleep!
Ooh indie seems so small now, 7.2kgs!
Just Add Water
09-11-2009, 12:09
J - left you a msg on FB, how's Indie's head? Also saw that Miss C is not well - how is she today? And let's wrap it up with - how are you? Don't know why but my gut tells me you're wanting to hit someone... maybe? Anyway :hugs: just thought I'd check :D
:laughing: Perhaps yesterday but we're all good today. Indies head is good and dd1 seems to have a uti, won't know the results for a few days I think. Dr said she was A-OK for kindy, so that's a positive sign(and also points to uti rather than anything else, usually is when she seems fine except for temps spiking over 40!).
I'm just tired today more than anything else.
Ash - I'm so jealous of your productive morning! I've barely done a thing all morning and I don't have much in the way of motivation to get things moving either!
Got to run!
Hi everyone.
Me saw you on a camel on F. What's that all about? You sound in better spirits than last week which is great!
Karice, Ella weighed just under 8 kg a week ago. Probably is 8 kg now. My almost 3 year old weighs 15 kg. I think they slow down a lot once they get a bit older. Or maybe I just make them small :laughing:. I wouldn't worry too much either. If Cady is throwing up heaps then yeah, maybe you are overfeeding her and you want to make changes but if she's happy and content and healthy then who cares? They are all so different. My friend had a little boy 10 days after Ella. He weighs about 9 kg I think. She told me yesterday that she feeds him 9 icecubes of food for dinner. I feed Ella 3! She does have fruit after though but still...
Just for comparisons sake this is what Ella ate today -
breakfast 3 tablespoons of farex multigrain cereal with about 3 tablespoons of pear (I make it with cow's milk :eek:)
lunch (lazy today so it was bought :eek:) 1 pouch of rafferty's spinach, pea, broccoli and apple and half a jar of heinz youghurt.
dinner 3 ice cubes of chicken, pumpkin and zuccini from my freezer and half a jar of heinz custard.
4 bottles throughout the day which totals about 800 mls.
That's prob about average I would say??? DS used to always have afternoon tea at this age of fruit or youghurt or custard but her sleeping habits are a bit different and she eats dinner earlier than he used to so we don't really have time for it. :o
Not much else to say. Had a pretty busy weekend. Did our taxes on Saturday and expecting some GREAT refunds :smiliedance:. Spent most of yesterday at my cousin's house. They had BBQ and it was nice to get together with all out friends. Have SO much work to do that I really need to get cracking this week. This working from home business SUCKS! I also need to get stuck into organising DS' b'day aprty which is in 2 weeks. Oh my...
Mks I'm the same, dd1s birthday party is in 2 weeks and I'll I've done is sent out invites. I have no idea what I'm going to feed these children, no idea how I'll entertain them, vague idea for a present and the house needs a spring clean before the big day. I have no idea how I'm going to get it done, Part of me wishes I'd just booked a play centre:o.
Oh the camel was at the school fête on the weekend, it was so much fun!
Jess when is your DD'd b'day? Michael's is on 20 Nov and party on 21st Nov. The following day (Sun morning) we have his music concert at 9am! Oh my lord, it's going to be one tiring weekend! All I have done for the party is send invites and I booked a mini jumping castle. As for food, cake etc who knows??
Speaking of presents, my DS has now started talking about Christmas ALL the time. He woke up yesterday morning, ran into my room and announced "it's not Christmas yet".. uh, yeah, I know! He told me he asking Santa for a real elephant. Hmm....
JLeesmum
10-11-2009, 10:06
good morning..
well it seems Jydens is eating alot more than your babys..he just never seems full.:o but i usually stop him after 1 container (160gms).
ahh i just spilt my coffee all over the computer table..all over my bills.....*sigh* i didnt really want to see them [the bills] again anyway..
now ive forgotten where i was at...umm
ME- you just rememinded me, i have a 1st bday to go to today.. i cant beleive he is 1, it felt like yesterday we were both pregnant!
OMG Jydens friend Blake (5 weeks older than jyden), its walking!, not just walking, but running! he was crawling at 4 months..
im happy to wait a bit longer before DS starts walking!
ive got a Question..or 3
do you know the Vaalia toddler yogurt? says 12mths+... woudl it be ok? our poxy small shopping centre has NO choices what so ever..
also petimiams..(sp?) they also say 12mths..
has anyone tryed cheese sticks, polony (devon,fritz,lucheon) and
when do they recommend try peanut butter? ( no history of allergys )...
:ecomcity::ecomcity:
Lol he's got ambition! Dd1 wants a 2 seater electric ride on car, lol fat chance of that one! Her birthday is the 21st dec but we always celebrate a month early so it doesn't clash with Christmas, her party is the same day as your ds's. Well at least we can be disorganized together!
Me my in laws have bought that for Michael for Christmas! We don't want it. He is too young to ride it on his own and I don't have time to be outside with him 24 / 7 riding it. Would they listen when we showed doubt? No! :banghead: We bought him a ride on digger for his b'day. It's with peddles and he is going to LOVE it. He is totally obsessed with diggers (and now elephants it seems :laughing:) My FIL told me 'no, he won't like that, he'll like what we are getting him'. Umm.. it's not a popularity contest and I know what my son likes. Of course he'll like the car but I do know that he is going to love what we are buying him and it is a big enough toy to have outside. We don't really need another monstrosity. What do w edo though? We can't exactly put it away once he opens it can we? And I am having 50 people or something here for Christmas lunch so I am going to put it away that day. They are going to be furious with me but too bad.. they can put up with the tantrums. They should have asked us 1st if we wanted such a toy (which I am sure is for older than 3 year olds!) OK.. vent over..
Smashlee, I used to give DS petit miams at around this age. Haven't given it to Ella cause I just haven't bought it but I will. Also gave cheese sticks. I was giving DS ham at around 10 mths I think. In regards to nut products I haven't given any to DS (3) yet. When he was born they had said to wait until 5, then I heard it was 7! Now the rules regarding food seem to have changed again so I am not sure what you are supposed to do. I just figured they don't know what they are missing so I'll avoid nuts for as long as I can.
Just Add Water
10-11-2009, 20:30
Will read through everything later - just want to let you all know that we're moving to Bundaberg!!!!! It is SO nice to be able to breath again without having to wander how I'll pay for the next one...
JLeesmum
11-11-2009, 08:29
great news JAW, a change is like a holiday..
i have no idea where that is but im sure its nice!-and cooler than here.lol
went swimming again yesterday, i dunked Jye again.. he loved it. and it was FREEZING
Hi girls sorry I've been MIA for so long. I have been reading along on my phone but makes it so much harder to type a reply out.
I know that some of you have been going through a rough time so massive hugs to you all.
We're having major issues with daytime sleeps and so have booked in for a settling day session with c&yh. Fingers crossed it helps as I am totally over the screaming.
Will still isn't crawling but can spin in a circle to get what he wants!! I think he'll start to make a move soon.
Right better keep this short as the little guy as shouting at me.
Hi, just joined this site about an hour ago and not sure what I am doing... I have a little girl born in March this year. Do I just butt on in like this or is there some where else I should signing in?? :confused: I'll just keep rambling and someone will let me know I am sure. Just wanted to know if anyone wraps/swaddles there baby still? Cheers.
Just Add Water
11-11-2009, 20:08
Hi Vicki :) Welcome to the thread!
Yep, just jump right in. There is loads of information on BubHub and lots of people who will keep you informed and entertained :D.
As for your questions, my little man was never wrapt so I can't really help you, he hated it from day one! I know a few of the other girls wrapt their bubs so hopefully they can help you some more.
Welcome :D
Pippa I feel for you. F has pretty much stopped screaming at me about bed time except sometimes for his afternoon sleep and it has seriously made a difference to my life. Hope the settling school helps you guys.
Hi Vicki, we aren't wrapping here anymore but I think there are a few that are. I know some people still wrapping their 12 mth old. Hmm, was about to laugh about that then realised it is only 3 mths away :crying:
My tiny baby is not a tiny baby anymore. He has officially been out longer than he was in now given he came early. I feel really sad about it. And clucky.
Hi Vicki :wave: I stopped wrapping here at about 5 - 6 months when she went out of her bassinet and into her cot. It wasn't a big deal for us. She happily slept without being wrapped and now she likes the freedom of moving around in the cot to get comfortable.
Kar, when you put it like that.. geez.. Ella has still been out for less time since she was 8 months a couple of days ago and was born on her due date but we are almost there.
As for being clucky.. don't rush!
I am having one of those days, can you tell? :crying: I have a 3 year old clinging to my leg, they are both whinging and I am so tired even though I got a good 8 hours sleep last night. Everything just seems too much at the moment. I have pressure from my work to get all these files done (I am on maternity leave people, I just agreed to do a bit from home to help out!), my house is a mess and we have a b'day party here in a week which I have done nothing for! To add to it I am really upset cause I lost one of Ella's shoes yesterday - sounds stupid but it was a Guess shoe and they cost $60!!! I thought she lost it in the car but can't find it anywhere so it might have fallen out of the car at playgroup but I didn't look cause I thought it must be in the car since she left home with 2 shoes and when we arrived at playgroup she only had 1 on. I am just a real sook today and can't be bothered with anything. :hissy:
The good news is that tomorrow night I am going out to dinner with 2 of my girlfriends so it will be nice to sit back, have a glass of wine and a nice meal and a chat without interruption from the kiddies :smiliedance:
JLeesmum
12-11-2009, 10:03
hi vicki! what day was your lil girl born? my DS (dear son) was born on the 1st(u will catch on to the lingo soon :D)
we stopped wrapping him when he was about a montth old..
where are you from?
:wave: Vicki and welcome! We're not wrapping anymore, we stopped pretty early on in the piece because I just become to lazy to do it:o.
mks :hugs:. Don't worry about the party, it really won't take much to organise. Can you tell work to back off a bit with how much they are expecting you to do? :hugs:
I'm just having one of those days, no focus, no motivation. So I'm going to plonk myself of the couch and play some games!
JLeesmum
13-11-2009, 19:09
HELLLLOOOOO where is everyone?? been quiet in here the last few days..
JAWs prolly packing, but whats everyone elses excuses????
vicki- theres usually more chatter in here...-
I know.. so quiet! Well I'll fill on yesterday. I had a nice day. Had lunch with 2 girls from work who both had babies just after me. DS was at daycare so DD and I did some shopping and then we went and had a parent teacher interview :laughing: at kindy. I am very happy to say that DS got a good report and they told me he is very knowledgable for his age and his behaviour is lovely. Pity it's not so great at home :laughing:. Last night I left the children and DH at home and had dinner with 2 girlfriends. Very nice to have a wine, some dinner and a good chat! Even if all we did was talk about our kids.. Another busy weekend coming up and then next Fri it's DS' b'day. I can't believe my baby is 3!!! Girls before we know it these little March babies will stop being babies and be little people. It goes so fast :crying:.
Hello everyone!
Hope you and your families are all well. Sorry it’s been so long since I last did a proper post… I think I’ve only managed to pop in a couple of times in the last 2 months just to say hi, with the promise of a longer post to follow :o. DH has taken the boys to see the Christmas pageant this morning (nuts in this weather but DS1 was super keen) and Lily is still asleep at the moment so I’ll see how I go….
Even though I've caught up on a month or so of posts I’ll keep my personals to the last couple of pages… otherwise no one will know what I’m talking about!
Karice - I hope Cady’s sleeping and spewing has settled down. I know Lily can get really unsettled in the lead up to cutting teeth, wonder if Cady’s about to cut some teeth? Like some of the others have said, don’t worry about having to watch Cady’s diet, I’m sure her weight is fine - it sounds like she is eating healthy meals and splitting her milk feeds is probably a good strategy (Lily seems to prefer split BFs too… she has a good feed off one side and a little off the second side, she then has her solids after a short time, just before she goes down for her sleep I give her the second side again). I wouldn’t listen to the CHN about Cady needing to trim down, how ridiculous! You know Cady best so I would trust your own instincts before anyone else. When I weighed Lily a week ago she was 9.2kg…. I know that’s not as heavy as Cady but she started out at 3.04kg so she has done pretty well in the weight gain department. I hope you've had some time to catch your breath.
JAW - so sorry to hear about what happened to your friends’ daughter. My thoughts are with her and her family. It’s comforting to know that they have such great, supportive friends in you and DH to help them through this. I hope the scumbag gets what he deserves.
Congratulations on the pending move to Bundaberg!!! I’ve never been to Bundaberg, but I imagine it’s quite different from Canberra. How exciting for you and your family. I hope the packing’s going well and not too stressful. Seeing as I can’t be there to offer any practical help, sending you lots of happy, smooth sailing packing vibes! :hugs:
Smashlee - how’s the washing machine situation going? Hope it’s either fixed or you’ve managed to get hold of another machine. On your food questions…. I think the toddler yoghurts and petit miams would be fine slightly earlier than 12 months if Jyden’s diet is reasonably advanced for his age - I don’t know what the difference between toddler and baby yoghurt is (maybe the size?) but the petit miams are sweeter than the baby yoghurts. I’m pretty sure that both my boys had these before 12 months… I think they both even tried full fat adult yoghurt before 12 months. I think I started giving the boys cheese sticks from around 9 months. I’d be a bit careful with Devon, fritz, and things like that - a little is probably fine but they’re very high in salt and fat and contain lots of preservatives (sulphates, nitrites). If you want more protein in his diet maybe lean minced beef or chicken and even baked beans (hopefully your supermarket might stock the no salt added or salt-reduced varieties). Sounds like your little man is doing very well with his solids! I know that nuts are not recommended for kids under 5 years, I would assume that means peanut butter as well. I have asked DS1 if he’d like to try peanut butter since he turned 5… he’s not interested!
Me - great to hear that things are better than a couple of weeks ago. Sorry I wasn’t around then to offer my support and hugs so here are some now :hugs:. I hope things continue to look up for you. It was good to read that you were planning to plonk yourself on the couch to play some games on Thursday.. I hope you had a relaxing day doing just that. Hope all the preparations for DD1’s birthday party go well - how nice of you to separate her birthday from Christmas. I’m sure that makes it much more special for her. I hope Indie’s head is all better and that Cady is over her uti.
Mks - hope the organising for Michael’s birthday party is going well. Don’t worry you’ll get it all done. Your working from home sounds like quite a burden, given you are supposed to be on maternity leave. It doesn’t sound like your boss has much understanding of how much time being a Mum actually takes. Some of the stuff kids come up with about Christmas is so funny… DS1 has circled all the things in the toy catalogues that he would like Santa to bring (we’ve reminded him a number of times that Santa can’t bring everything he’s circled as there has to be room for all the kids’ toys) and DS2 keeps saying that he wants to go to Christmas (I think he thinks it’s just a fun occasion we can have at any time of the year where he can get presents). Good luck on producing a live elephant for Michael! Don’t you just love those presents that seem to take up half the house… I think we have something very similar to the ride on you describe, a battery operated Wiggles ride on that DS1 got from his Yia Yia a couple of Christmases ago. We only use it outside, so most of the time the rechargeable battery is flat. We used to have DS1’s cosy coupe inside when DS2 was little but it just got too ridiculous to have these huge toys inside. I really wish I had an extra room in this house for all the toys… they just seem to take over. Just read your most recent post… glad you had a nice day yesterday. I’m sure dinner out with the girls is just what you needed. Hope you feel a bit more rested today. Any luck finding Ella’s shoe? :fingerscrossed: I hope you get it back.
PippaG - hope the settling day session at c&yh goes well. The days can be very difficult with a screaming baby so I hope it improves very quickly. Our issues are at the opposite end… Lily is very difficult to get down at night until very late.
Vicki9 - :wave: hello and welcome! Look forward to getting to know you better on here. Until the recent heatwave here in Adelaide, I had been wrapping Lily for her sleeps… she can get out of it in 2 seconds flat when she wants to as I’m still using my 120cm square muslin wraps. I wrapped DS1 until he was nearly 2 - I tried stopping at around 8 months but after a month of very little sleep I started wrapping again on the advice of a CHN. I stopped wrapping DS2 when he was around 18 months, he seemed ready to give it up then. Both boys used to help wrap themselves when they were older babies, I think they just liked the security of it.. they could escape the wrap in a flash when they wanted to. I think I’m going to try and keep Lily wrap-free from here on, but I will resort to using it again if she won’t settle. Her day sleeps haven’t been as good the last few days, but it’s hard to know if it’s heat-related, wrap-related or due to some other reason.
Kar - wow, our babies’ first birthdays are really close now! I’m a bit sad about that too, especially because Lily is my last baby. Despite not having the smoothest journey, I’m going to miss the excitement of finding out I’m pregnant, counting the weeks and looking forward to each new milestone and the joy and anticipation of a new bundle. But I guess I have to move on to the next phase at some point… and there is much to look forward to as the kids get older. Still… I feel like it’s the end of an era.
LeeJ - wow, little J is such an active little man!! I bet he must be keeping you on your toes. How’s the sleeping going? Is he over the reflux now?
Hubnbubby - your little J man sounds like he’s doing some good sleeping at night. Can you please send some sleeping dust my way please?
Hello to Suby (hope you’re well! Haven’t heard from you for a while), HappyMumma (good to see you pop back in), TickledPink, tales and all the other March Mummies out there. Hope you and your bubbas are going along well!
AFU - A quick run-down of major events in the last couple of months…. We had a “bulk” baptism for all the kids back in September (Lily wore my christening dress. The day was more moving than I had expected.). Ethan turned 5 in August and started school this term (I’m still in shock that the baby I brought home from hospital is now a big boy with attitude)… he seems to be loving school so far which is great. Noah turned 3 a couple of weeks ago.. so hard to believe my little man is getting so big. We had a Thomas themed “High Tea” at Botanic Park… we decided to go smaller and just invite the extended family this year and do afternoon tea with tea and scones, cake etc., worked very well. I’ve been adjusting to a new routine since the term started… doing the school run with 3 kids in tow, getting DS2 back into kindergym and going to playgroup every week (though not yesterday as I didn’t feel like taking the kids out in the heat and was tired due to Lily’s night time antics). So things are going well here but life is pretty busy. I do struggle to find time for myself.. haven’t made it to the gym at all in the last month or so which I was supposed to do weekly and I feel like the housework gets on top of me and does my head in because I don’t have the time to finish jobs… but I’m trying to keep it all in perspective. If everyone’s fed, clean and happy that’s what really matters but I do find it very hard to let the other stuff go… Sorry to ramble on about what seems to be fairly trivial cr@p!
We are still having issues with sleeping here... up until this heatwave Lily was doing 2 good day sleeps, sometimes a very short evening sleep and a late, very broken night sleep (though she often likes to sleep in after her 6.30am feed until 10.30am if I let her). She has been a bit more unsettled during the day in the last few days and it seems to be impossible to get her to sleep at night before midnight and sometimes not until 2am. I do struggle with being so tired sometimes… apart from the very occasional reprieve from DH, I can’t sleep in with her because the boys are up early, so I’m lucky if I get to spend 6 hours of broken sleep in bed. I don’t remember the last time I had more than 3 hours of unbroken sleep. I think I am so tired that I forget how many times Lily wakes for feeds, I just put her on the boob in a daze (we co-sleep). I am trying all sorts of things… you’d think that this being my 3rd bub at home that I’d have it sorted out wouldn’t you? I thought being up early to do the school run would help adjust her body clock, but not yet… if she is up early she generally wants a BF and back to sleep as soon as we get home from school drop-off. Thankfully, during this week’s heatwave, DH did a couple of drop offs and my MIL and my Dad did three of the pick ups.
Despite the night time antics, Lily is an absolute joy. She is a vey happy baby and is becoming more physically and verbally interactive every day. She seems to love electrical gadgets like remotes, computer keyboards, etc…. for some reason the toy ones aren’t as exciting. She also loves books, junk mail and other bits of paper to rip, throw and make noise with. Her favourite game is “where’s Daddy?”… when I have her standing in my lap on the couch in the family room she loves it when Matt appears just over the breakfast bar in the kitchen. She generally has 4 BFs during the day and however many top-ups during the night and 2-3 solid meals a day (depending on what she’s doing with sleeps!). She loves her sippy cup filled with water and just tried a milk arrowroot biscuit the other day. She cut her first tooth at 6.5 months and now has 4 teeth (middle top and bottom two)… I think more are to follow shortly. She’s not crawling yet or pulling herself to stand… but she shuffles backwards when on her back and spins around when she’s on her tummy. She seems to be quite strong in the body and arms and legs… but it won’t surprise me if she is on the later side walking like her big brothers (I think I breed them lazy!).
How quickly is Christmas coming up???? For Christmas this year I am getting a framed hand cast of the 3 kids with a photo… now just to get a decent photo of the three of them without DS1 pulling a weird face or DS2 refusing to cooperate. We have a second session at Pixifoto next week… I hope it goes better this time otherwise it’s up to Matt.
Just spoke to DH on the phone... the boys really enjoyed the Christmas Pageant and found a good spot. I would loved to have gone as well, but we decided to keep Lily out of the heat and let her sleep. We hope to all go next year.
Well, better go and check on Lily and have some breakfast. Hope you all have a great weekend!
Talk to you soon!
Lisa :wave:
Hello again, :wave:
Well, no posts for ages and now 2 in a row!! :laughing: I realised that I had some questions I wanted to ask those of you using MCNs…
I have been contemplating giving MCNs a try for a while now… I have to admit that until very recently I knew very little about them (none of my friends or rellies have used them). Thanks to you guys I became curious and have looked at a few sites. I still don’t feel like I know enough to make a totally informed decision, so I’m hoping some of you can help me…
Are there particular brands that are better than others? Issy bears are probably what I’ve heard many of you talk about… are these the best? Are snaps better than velcro?
I was thinking of ordering a trial pack of 2 nappies to try out first… maybe a minky and a day nappy?? Minkys can be used for day or night, is that correct (with the night insert)?
If I like the MCNs, I figure it is still worth making the switch at this late stage both financially and environmentally. How many would I need to order? Would having around 20-25 be enough?… I do laundry very often (non-stop it seems) And how many day and night ones? How many extra inserts?
How easy are they to care for? What is dry pailing? Is it just separating and rinsing the inserts and nappies and putting them in a bucket until you wash them? Do you just wash them with normal laundry liquid? I use Amolin Sensitive.
Is the performance on a par with good disposable nappies? Is there anything extra I need to purchase? Do you use reusable wipes as well?
Any other information I should know?
Sorry to bombard you with so many questions, I’d really appreciate some advice. Many thanks in advance for any help you can give me!!!
Cheers,
Lisa :flowerz:
mumma2ajem
14-11-2009, 13:31
Hello again, :wave:
Well, no posts for ages and now 2 in a row!! :laughing: I realised that I had some questions I wanted to ask those of you using MCNs…
I have been contemplating giving MCNs a try for a while now… I have to admit that until very recently I knew very little about them (none of my friends or rellies have used them). Thanks to you guys I became curious and have looked at a few sites. I still don’t feel like I know enough to make a totally informed decision, so I’m hoping some of you can help me…
Are there particular brands that are better than others? Issy bears are probably what I’ve heard many of you talk about… are these the best? Are snaps better than velcro?
i am in love with my pea pods simple and plain but they have good absorbency but i do have many other brands that i also love i have a pic of all my mcns in my avatar on here and even more on facebook feel free to check them out if you want to my email is louie1987@live.com.au (louie1987@live.com.au) look that up on facebook and you can get me from there :)
I was thinking of ordering a trial pack of 2 nappies to try out first… maybe a minky and a day nappy?? Minkys can be used for day or night, is that correct (with the night insert)?
depends on the actual nappy and how much of a heavy wetter your bubby is
If I like the MCNs, I figure it is still worth making the switch at this late stage both financially and environmentally. How many would I need to order? Would having around 20-25 be enough?… I do laundry very often (non-stop it seems) And how many day and night ones? How many extra inserts?
well i have a lot of mcns i went a lil crazy there is just to many pretties i have about 55 or so now i think but 20-25 would be enough just wash them every 2nd day
How easy are they to care for? What is dry pailing? Is it just separating and rinsing the inserts and nappies and putting them in a bucket until you wash them? Do you just wash them with normal laundry liquid? I use Amolin Sensitive.
i use the sensitive wash as well and thats all i use if they get a bit smelly i sometimes add a sensitive softner just to get the smell out
Is the performance on a par with good disposable nappies? Is there anything extra I need to purchase? Do you use reusable wipes as well?
i think they work just as good and some even better then sposies depends on the brand and the child really i dont use reusable wipes i just use the normal wipes i know i probz should but mehhhh
Any other information I should know?
the one thing i did not realise is that once you get one or two you will become addicted just like i did it is hard to stop once you start just like pringles lol
i am not sure if i can put the website up here but i will pm you a good site to go on a talk mcns with some lovely ladies and there is a section on there where they sell nappies some are used but with a wash and that they are fine or some even sell new ones that they no longer like fit etc that they never put on bubs
Sorry to bombard you with so many questions, I’d really appreciate some advice. Many thanks in advance for any help you can give me!!!
Cheers,
Lisa :flowerz:
hope that helps pm me or facebook if u have any more questions :yes:
MCN, very easy Lisa ;) I wasn't going to use them, but with a bit more info, and here i am, a full time clothie :laughing:
Washing is as easy as popping the solids in the toilet, pop them in a lidded bucket, launder within 48 hours. Put them through a rinse and spin, then through a long wash, cold water.
Issy's are a great workhorse, i find anything other than minky in ANY nappy will wick (leak), so i recommend minky for all nappies. They have an insert and a shell, if you have extra inserts, the turn around is very quick, as the shell takes about 10 minutes to dry.
I find issy's to be bulky under clothes, so I also have Itti Bitti's, they are nice and trim, and if you have extra inserts, the turn around is great too, as the inserts snap in.
Issys and ittis would be where I would start. :yes:
Some general tidbits;)
get some microfleece liners if poo's are still runny, the poop is easier to clean off, just put anything solid in the toilet, then in the laundry basin, i have a pair of gloves just for nappies, and pop them under the tap. easier than getting it off the nappy.
just make sure, no bleach, no vinegar, no softener, dont put the shells in the dryer
use bicarb to help if they get whiffey
only use 1/4 detergent you normally would
dry in the sun, but dont leave them out too long! best in the shaded area, the sun will bleach out any stains.
dont soak them, it will deteriorate the waterproof outside.
wash within 48 hours, urine breaks down the fibres like bamboo, so always wash within 48 hours.
be careful not to snag finger nails on the pul when putting inserts in.
make sure to fold over tabs in wash.
wash on cold water.
invest in caneston, it takes away 99.9 % of germs, I pop it though 1 wash a week, and if either of them gets bum rash, ect, put it in every wash, to make sure all germs are killed.
ok, i think thats a round about guide to keep your naps in ship shape
20-25 is a great number, you can get away with a few less if you have extra inserts though;)
I use cloth wipes around the house, but still use sposie wipes when out, and for poo's, lol.
oh, night nappies, i would go with something like issy bear, that you can just boost more, and can interchange for nights, there are only so many you can do that with. so another reason to try issys,lol.
Hope thats answered some Q's Lisa:D
JLeesmum
14-11-2009, 14:47
sorry, but i hate MCN's.. i have bought one.. baby beehinds.
i found it didnt absorb as quick as sposies and left him moist..
aslo.. only having one made it seem like a waste of water to wash..
and well done on the personals bongo..
such a great age isnt it?
mumma2ajem
14-11-2009, 15:40
MCN, very easy Lisa I wasn't going to use them, but with a bit more info, and here i am, a full time clothie :laughing:
Washing is as easy as popping the solids in the toilet, pop them in a lidded bucket, launder within 48 hours. Put them through a rinse and spin, then through a long wash, cold water.
Issy's are a great workhorse, i find anything other than minky in ANY nappy will wick (leak), so i recommend minky for all nappies. They have an insert and a shell, if you have extra inserts, the turn around is very quick, as the shell takes about 10 minutes to dry.
I find issy's to be bulky under clothes, so I also have Itti Bitti's, they are nice and trim, and if you have extra inserts, the turn around is great too, as the inserts snap in.
Issys and ittis would be where I would start. :yes:
Some general tidbits
get some microfleece liners if poo's are still runny, the poop is easier to clean off, just put anything solid in the toilet, then in the laundry basin, i have a pair of gloves just for nappies, and pop them under the tap. easier than getting it off the nappy.
just make sure, no bleach, no vinegar, no softener, dont put the shells in the dryer
use bicarb to help if they get whiffey
only use 1/4 detergent you normally would
dry in the sun, but dont leave them out too long! best in the shaded area, the sun will bleach out any stains.
dont soak them, it will deteriorate the waterproof outside.
wash within 48 hours, urine breaks down the fibres like bamboo, so always wash within 48 hours.
be careful not to snag finger nails on the pul when putting inserts in.
make sure to fold over tabs in wash.
wash on cold water.
invest in caneston, it takes away 99.9 % of germs, I pop it though 1 wash a week, and if either of them gets bum rash, ect, put it in every wash, to make sure all germs are killed.
ok, i think thats a round about guide to keep your naps in ship shape
20-25 is a great number, you can get away with a few less if you have extra inserts though;)
I use cloth wipes around the house, but still use sposie wipes when out, and for poo's, lol.
oh, night nappies, i would go with something like issy bear, that you can just boost more, and can interchange for nights, there are only so many you can do that with. so another reason to try issys,lol.
Hope thats answered some Q's Lisa:D
oops i hope i am not wrecking my nappies is softner bad for nappies someone just told me to use it and i did :eek: maybe should have researched a bit more first it doesnt affect the nappies at all does it??? and caneston is that a cream??? would like to know more about that i will invest in some of that instead of softner oh and the bi carb
what ius the dilutaion ratio for the bicarb or do u just add it in??
sorry i am still sorta new to this too and dont want to wreck my nappies any help would be good :yes: they are to expensive to wreck
JLeesmum
14-11-2009, 17:27
my instructions said only use water, the bamboo is antibacterial.. washing detergent stops them soaking up as well...
but like i said, im not a MCN 'user'lol
:laughing: missloiuse!
No, shouldn't use softner with them;)
If you want to soften the inserts up (if thye go stiffer after drying too quickly), put the inserts in the dryer, it will soften them back up.
Can't go back and change it, so just stop using it now, do a strip wash to get rid of the residue. (softener affects the absorbebcy of the nappy, as with towels, it lessens the absorbecy)
bicarb helps to get rid of smells, but doesn't affect the nappy at all (vinegar, bleach and softeners will affect the elastic and PUL), just sprinkle some in on top :)
Caneston is in the laundry aisle, near the clothes detergent, in a white bottle. just follow the directions on the back, i tend to pop it in every 2nd load or so, to keep them nice and fresh, and any nasties at bay.
smashlee, unfortunatley, only trying one nappy can't really give you a great idea of just how great MCN's are. Did you wash it 6-8 times to increase the absorbecy? what sort did you use? did it have a 'stay dry' inner? if it hadn't been washed a certain number of times, the pee will just run off it, as bamboo gains absorbency through washing.
I've found J has the same moisture with a sposie or a cloth nappy, it wasn't till i compared, and could see, oh, even with a sposie, there is still a wet layer against his skin!
I'm not having a go, just trying to help with why it didnt work.
Cloth has become quite a passion, and when someone has a problem, i am happy to help;)
ok, hope that helps with some more Q's:)
Hi Lisa! Great to hear from you. I'm sorry to hear miss lily is still a light night party animal and your boys are early risers. I'm much like you for the night feeds, i loose track f how many we do, though we don't co-sleep, I end up sleeping on the chair in her room!
I just had a ground breaking realization. I've decided to sell the bottles, sterilizer and breast pump as I haven't used or needed them this time around... And the ground breaking part is I'm 100% comfortable with this decision. Not sure if it means I'm comfortable with no more bubs or if I simply am confident enough in my ability to bf that I no longer feel the need to have that "back up" there like I have before? Either way they're getting listed and off they can go:)
trifecta
14-11-2009, 21:07
Hi Lisa : ) Wow Lilly is a late night party girl, I'd be a complete zombie if J stayed up that late! Your doing an amazing job - super woman :yelclap: While J does go down early, he still wakes frequently for BF also, and I loose track easily of how many and at what times he wakes. Especially if he's woken more then 3x, it just becomes a half asleep blur. And I actually get up and feed him!
As for mcn's - LeeJ is the best place for advice :yes: She got me started too, and it's great and really easy. Issy's would be my work horse also, they are really absorbent, soft and cute. I find them way better then sposies and have never had a problem with wet skin.
Naughty me though, I've been rinsing mine in cold, then doing a warm/hot wash. That no good Tash? I swear I read that early on and have done it ever since. I use Cannasten once a week or so to and have never had a problem with smelly naps.
It's pretty confusing to start, but just start of slow and get a couple of different ones to see what you like is a good way to begin. I don't go too crazy and just stick mostly with what I like/know to work. There are thousands of different ones out there.
Hi girls, i know i've been MIA for a while. TBH I just don't feel well in myself. I get up with full intention of having a productive day and then I don't know, somewhere between getting up and making breakfast I just can't be bothered. The house is getting out of hand a little bit, not terrible, just not great either. I've lost motivation for most things, can't be bothered going anywhere or seeing anyone. Everything just seems like so much effort. :(
I think Cady might be getting early molars. I had a feel around her gums, at first I thought she was cutting her front two, but I can feel something sharp at the back of her top jaw. Her cousin cut molars early, maybe its something in the family.
the only good news i really have is that i bought a new vacuum cleaner earlier in the week. yay...
sorry, just hormonal and generally blah at the moment. I'll try to cheer up and come back and give a postive post.
forgot to say hi to vicky and also, we had gotten away from wrapping but have had to go back to it due to miss Cady not sleeping again
(((hugs))) kaz, honestly I know the feeling and I really really hope it passes soon for you. Maybe after kd's birthday party I can pop down for a day or 2 or you're more than welcome to come up here to hang out. We've just got the pool sorted out too;).
I've finally worked out Christmas! Yay! I'm going to get a heap of things in the current target sale, pop it on layby then order whatever is outstanding in target give vouchers with my credit card rewards points(I have so many of them and always miss the sales, so this way I get the best of both worlds:D). We've made big lists for both the girls and will just pick and choose a few things off each of the lists for them. I want to go today and get the layby on, I'm so excited! I'll grab a few things for dh in there too, the that's pretty much everything done in 1 day at 1 shop!
oh, warm/hot is ok, my machine goes mental and has super hot water, so we always use cold, LOL.
most will take warm wash, i think up to 40 degrees, but i have no clue how to test my water temp!
The main ones affected by hot water are the WC blings (cant heat the glue up with the crystals), and im careful of ittis too ;)
JLeesmum
15-11-2009, 16:11
LeeJ i said in another post it was a baby beehinds.. but its acctually a 'contour' cushie tushie..
yes i did wash it several time before using it, yes it has an inbuilt liner, and i have 1 bamboo insert with a booster insert
i also didnt like the buttons because it never quite fit properly, either too tight or too loose.
maybe i should have tryed a different brand..
well done to those people that DO use them, they look darn cute!
quick update - as far as my downer mood goes, I had a talk to DP about it, saying I don't know why I feel so depressed, i've been like this for almost a month when I should be getting happier as our situation is improving. I don't know why I feel so miserable all the time, I have no appetite, I pretty much only eat dinner these days, yet I'm still gaining weight, I can't be bothered doing anything that needs to be done and I don't want to do things that I would normally enjoy. Despite Cady's bad sleeping, I should have more energy than I did 5 months ago as I'm actually getting more sleep than when she was little and I BFing. I had headaches every day for a month straight, I'm snappy with everyone, even Cady which upsets me more and I'm teary all the time. Basically, as far away from my normal personality as you can get.
He pointed out to me that I've been like this ever since I went on the pill... :o Then I remembered that I went off the pill for a reason but couldn't really remember why, I guess this was it, it makes me depressed, lethargic, and generally unhealthy. So I'm going to take myself off the pill and we'll just have to go back to being 'careful'...didn't do us much good the first time round though...
Went to a tupperware party at my SIL's. Really didn't feel like going but I made myself go. I've bought a few bits and peices and got a good deal on some specials. I got really upset though as my neice (who is 2 in Feb) kept trying to steal Cady's toy away from her and I kept telling her no, its hers go find your own toy. She got really snotty, snatched it off Cady and really whacked her across the head. :crying: Cady didn't even cry, she was just shocked, and wouldn't let anyone near her for a good half an hour, only wanted cuddles. SIL didn't do anything, just said to neice "oh you really hurt cady" and walked away. Made me so angry :banghead:
anyway, thats my thoughts for the day
lets see how things go over the next week or so
Hi everyone!
Hope you’ve all had a good weekend.
Misslouie - :thumbsup: thanks for your help and for taking the time to pm me that website. I will definitely check it out as well and be in touch with any questions. Wow, 55 MCNs… you are an addict!!! I can see how it can happen though, there are so many cute ones around. I’m sure you haven’t wrecked your nappies… I stopped using fabric softener a few years ago when I was told that it’s bad for washing machines.
LeeJ - :yelclap: wow, you really are the font of all knowledge when it comes to MCNs!!! Thanks for all the info about issys and ittis and I really appreciate the detailed care instructions. I think I may end up getting a trial pack of issys and ittis based on the info you gave me. I gather that it is best to order online? With the issy bear nappies, are the snaps better than Velcro? Looking at the website for ittis I’m assuming the best size for Lily is probably large - she’s 9.2kg with quite chubby thighs… do you think that would be right? Sorry to bug you with more questions!!! Rather than switching to reusable wipes, I think I’ll stick to my current regime of using facewashers at home for the boys and Lily for mealtimes (they each have their own colour coded stash), tissues and sorbolene for nappies with number 1s and wipes for number 2s.
Smashlee - yep it is a great age! We are so looking forward to Christmas with the kids this year… both boys are getting quite excited about it already. Bummer that your experience with MCNs didn’t work out.
Me - apart from one time after coming home from hospital with engorged boobs, I haven’t used my breast pump or steriliser either… the sterilizer just collects dust on my benchtop! I used to sterilize everything religiously with DS1 until he was 12 months old (the recommendation then), was a bit more lax with DS2 (by then I heard that 6 months was the recommendation) and even more lax with Lily. I thoroughly wash everything but just use boiling water from the kettle to rinse things just before I use them.
:yelclap: Sounds like you’re very organized for Christmas, well done! DH and I finally went through the stash of toys I bought in the July sales and were pleased to discover that we have pressies for all of the nieces and nephews and most of the pressies for our kids (apart from the boys’ bikes). Now just to sort out what to buy for our adult family members….
Hubnbubby - thanks for the applause, I can’t say that I feel like superwoman much of the time though…. I have quite a bit of housework to catch up on, but I guess it will still be waiting for me tomorrow! :laughing: I’m glad I’m not the only one who finds the nights a bit of a blur… I think I’m so tired at night I could probably sleepwalk to feed Lily if she was in her cot! Sounds like you are a very happy convert to MCNs too (Tash should be earning a commission!!!). I will definitely take your advice and start simple… I can see that it could be quite overwhelming if I spend too much time investigating all the different nappies out there.
Karice - it certainly sounds like going back on the pill could be causing your moodiness, headaches etc. If it was the pill, you would probably notice a difference within a week of stopping it. Sorry if this is too personal, but are there any other non-hormonal contraceptive methods you’d be willing to try… obviously condoms are a fairly obvious choice (and hated by most men) but have you ever tried a diaphragm (spelling?)? You could try a different pill, some of the lower dose pills are supposed to have less side effects. Do you have a good doctor or family planning clinic you could go to for advice? Hope you feel better soon! :hugs: Poor little Cady... I would have been angry and upset too.
:wave: Hello to all the other March Mummies!
Well, I’d better go and attempt to get Lily settled for bed (ha!). Hope you all get a good night’s rest.
Have a good week!
Lisa
Lisa, velcro can be easier when you are first trying our cloth, but i quickly became a fan of snaps, as velcro is just SO fun to get undone;) for kidlets:laughing:
you could always get one velcro one snaps in the issys, Check out sweet cheek crafts, it's renee from heres store, she sells issys;)
i would probably go with the larges, they are suited from10.5kg, but will fit smaller, you 'may' get some wing droop, but there are ways to fix that;)
if you are after a super pretty one, check our genesa forge, you can customize the whole thing, they are a favorite nappy of mine.
sorry i havnt replied to everyone else, and purely talked nappies!:o
hi everyone
has a rough night last night, I might take Cady down to the baby centre today as her sleeping really is getting out of hand. I kept going to and fro a million different ways to settle her but something at the back of my mind keeps telling me "she's playing games with you :devil:" last night it was midnight before she went to sleep, she'd been awake since 3pm, needless to say we had a housefull of screaming for hours. The only reason she went to sleep is coz DP and I gave up, he slept in the spare room and I plonked he into bed with me and just let her howl next to me until she fell asleep. Then she slept the whole night without waking, without being wrapped and without any nappy changes or bottles. WTF... I reckon its all because I was next to her.
as far as the pill goes, I didn't take it yesterday and I haven't taken it today and I already am feeling better :o despite a bad night with Cady and being up again at 6. The kitchen is cleaned up from last nights dinner and breakfast, and I've had a coffee and Cady has had a good play. When I go down to the baby centre I might ask them what they recommend. They'll probably just tell me to see my GP though. DP will use condoms although he tries to worm out of using them every time but it only took one chanced moment of stupid passion for Cady to come along so I'm not risking that again
ok, im feeling up to personals today:
bongos - its great to hear from you! I'm a bit lax o nthe sterilising thing also. I when I switched Cady to bottles at 5 months I was so strict on sterilzing everything, now the bottles just washed in really hot soapy water, have a good rinse and then get filled with boiled water and popped in the fridge. I figure she's never going to build an immune system if she never has any exposure to bugs at all. Cady is generally rather healthy, i think she's had a cold twice, but she might get that from me as I'm rarely sick also.
Jess - the birthday party sounds like its going to be fun for KD...what little kid doesn't enjoy a celebration thats all about them :laughing: pass-the-parcel and a treasure hunt is a good way to entertain the kidlets and requires minimal planning and effort ;) thanks for your offer to come up, you're welcome here anytime also :D
JAW - congrats on the news for the move! Once all the stress of the move is over, put your feet up and relax for a few days and enjoy your new home :hugs:
I can't really think of anything else to say. Cady's fussing around in her cot, yapping to herself. I can hear her rolling around over the monitor hahahaha I think I'll just ignore her and let her learn to settle on her own unless she gets really upset. I figure I'll give up trying to get her to go to sleep, and if she doesn't sleep well maybe just some quiet time in her cot is enough of a hint and eventually in a few weeks time she'll learn that if she goes to sleep she'll wake up and be able to play again sooner...hahahaha...yeah right. So now I'm back to trying to get her to sleep unwrapped. I'm like a damned yoyo. I KNOW she can sleep unwrapped, it was just more convinient in a way as it restrained her but lately she just gets upset by it. who knows...
JLeesmum
16-11-2009, 09:28
karice- have you tryed CC? i cant bring myself to do it.. sounds like it might be the way to do things if she slept like she did when u let her cry..
i think they say check on them after 5 mins then 5 mins, then 10 mins then 10 mins..(im sure you have tryed already)
and have u have the depo needle before?
ive been an emotinal wreck since puberty..lol. i cry at the stupidest things, i even cry when i laugh, its so embarrasing. and i always seem ticked off at stupid things and just generally not happy, its weird. i should be really happy, im with the man i love with a perfect son.. just feels like im missing something ..(oops im rambling)..
bongos- i stopped sterilizing at about 4 months, he has only been sick once! (and omg you should see the dog hair stuck to my carpet haha)
ok ima go do something constructive..
Lisa that's great news about pretty much having christmas sorted without even hitting the shops at this time of the year! YAY!
Kaz - I'm so glad that you're feeling much better already! It's amazing what a varied affect the pill(and other hormonal contraceptives) can have on people. My depression become a big part of my life after having the depro shot:rolleyes:. If you still want a contraceptive but not a hormonal one, you might want to research the copper iud. I don't know much about it, except that it's not hormonal, but as it's an iud(inter uterine device) it needs to be inserted into your uterus my a doctor.
I'm going to keep this short because my inbox is getting out of control again:o. I really need to get it sorted out.
Same old same old happening here, I am on the hunt for natural food colouring this week for DD1's birthday cake, then I need to do a few more little bits and bobs around the house but we're basically ready for party day on saturday. It'll be good to have it done with, and on sunday while I'm getting the kindy birthday cake done, DD1 and DH will probably get started on putting up the christmas lights and the weekend after the tree will go up(it's becoming tradition that we put it up the afternoon after the kindy christmas party). Then we just can sit back and enjoy the "silly season" at home:)
ive tried a few different things over the years, i had the implanon thing in but it gave me an enlarged ovarian cyst which ruptured (actually saved my ovary by doing that as painfull as it was) had a few pills, its weird, now that i've realised being on the pill makes me depressed, I'm wondering if that's where my history of depression comes from. Not many people know this, but DP and I actually met while patients in a mental health ward of the hosiptal. I was admitted for self harm and attempted suicide and DP was admitted for drug induced phycosis (sp?) we just became friends, hit it off and have been together for 4 years, and come a very long way together. I just realised that I was on the pill back then and stopped for a year and I got better even though I refused my medication. weird...
Cady is screaming at me better go
as for the cc - we've tried something called 'controled comforting' which is similar but not as harsh, it sort of worked back then except now she doesn't whinge, she just goes to full blown howling. i've experimented today with a few things, and I'm pretty darned sure that's she's just doing this because she doesn't want to go to bed on her own. today i've moved a chair next to her cot, given her a quick cuddle and put her in bed. instead of coming back in the room and cuddling her when she starts to cry, i just give her the dummy back, quick pat on the belly and sit on the chair next to her cot. I don't look at her, talk to her nothing. She stays in the cot (unless she's legitamtely really very upset or needs a nappy change or something) i wait until she's quiet for a few mins and walk away. she stops crying when i sit there, so that's why i'm pretty sure its just coz she wants me and not to go to bed. I'm taking a book in with me so i'm entertained hahaha and distracted. i think i'll eventually move the chair further and further away or something. i'll let u know how it goes.
Just Add Water
16-11-2009, 12:21
Kaz - that's awesome that you've managed to overcome this!! You know your body better than anyone else so don't put anything in there that you don't want. My GP has said that the pill I was on is a likely source of my depression (that with a family history so it was prevalent anyway). I hope things keep on improving for you. xx How are things going with Lee these days? Is he still working at the railways?
Me - check your FB page, you need to become better friends with google lol
Hi eveyone else, have been reading but my god life is driving me insane. I'm constantly listing stuff to sell as we really don't want to take it all - and the money will come in handy too.. though to be honest the money is really coming in behind just getting rid of it. Managed to swap some stuff for nappies though so that makes us all happy :D
Ok, so need to get back to it. :D
Just Add Water
16-11-2009, 12:23
Oh and Bay has finally started on solids... we have been lent a walker and ever since he's been in that he's actually happy to take more than a couple of spoonfuls. Loves yoghurt, has been munching on some rice crackers and arrowroot bickies and just had some banana. it's so messy though!! part of me wishes we did this move when he was a newborn so I didn't have to clean him up and change him several times a day lol But he's so much fun right now too :D
LOL JaW the mess is what I would say is my biggest detterant in the solids thing. If I can't be bothered/don't have the time to clean up the mess and she's not hounding me for solids, then I let it slide we stick to BF's. Works for us:)
Kaz - Good on you for opening up and sharing with us. Like JaW I have a strong family history of mental illness/depression and it wasn't until I got that depo shot that it came out in me. I've battled with it on and off since, though I'm not on the pill anymore and still get depressed:rolleyes:(though there are a lot of contributing factors these days). I'm so relieved that you've discovered this, so that you can look for alternatives that work for you.
Thanks JaW, I'm off to check it out:D PS - I still need to email you about one of the pics on your page;)
karice, that's what we've been doing with josh, when he goes to bed, we have our night routine, pop him to bed, then leave, if he ends up going mental, i go in, sit on the chair, with my hand on his chest through the cot rails. when he is calm, we start again, seems to be working, the last couple of nights, resettles have been alot less, and the screaming has subsided. :thumbsup:
as for contraceptives, dh and i made the decision for me not to go back on any, before i came of them to TTC josh, my poor body was going hay wire. after coming off them, i felt much better.
LOL, you may remeber me asking, 'what the hell is this egg white discharge?:eek:', it was the discharge that comes with ovulation, because i hadnt ovulated since i was 16:eek: I had no clue LMAO
my cycle is very predictable now, i write down when AF comes, and when i get the change in moucous. Not keen on any contraceptives at this point.
it's nice to have my body back...
jess and bongos, im so glad breastfeeding is now second nature, and is going so well, that is so lovely to hear:cloud9:
JAW, we do baby led weaning, as you've seen, it has its pros and cons, lol, you dont have to sit there, trying to get food into them, but it is messy, LOL. my parents are constantly amazed what josh can eat with no teeth, lol, they come from a time, where purees were used for a long time, and meat didnt come into the equation till MUCH later.
afu, dh is still working ALOT of hours, which is very hard.
we have started the extention, and what a headache it is, oh well, we'll get there ;-)
josh still isnt a great sleeper, groan, but we are working on it.
he is quite the mischeif maker, can now climb things, bloody hell, the trouble he gets himself into...
ok, better go get some of this housework done!
JLeesmum
16-11-2009, 16:34
me- i had the depo needle when i was 13, i was really down after that for a few years, i got tested for glandular fever and ross river..when i was 18 we TTC, but it took us 3 years.. (it might have been the needle)
speaking of egg whites..(LOL)
ive gone of the pill and i cant remember when im due, im getting quite a heavy discharge...did anyone get this when pregnant? i cant remember..
i have really mixed feelings about being preg again..i thought i was ready for another one, now i *think* i could be up the duff, im not so sure. it might just be nerves..i mean..2kids..lol (i bet ur all laughing at me)
karice- sounds like a great idea, jydens a bit the opposite, i put him in his cot and have to run out the door before he rolls over and see's me. if im too slow(and he sees me)he just starts crying..lol
Hi everyone. Had a pretty busy weekend and didn't read much and finally there has been lots of chat!
Bongos - I didn't find Ella's shoe.. an excuse to go out and buy more I guess :p. You have donre really well catching up - great personals!
Karice, I know I have mentioned this before but I have a Mirena which is an IUD and it is a hormonal contraceptive but it is supposed to be much better than being on the pill cause the hormones don;t go through your blood stream - it is all centralised in the uterus. Does that make sense? Don't know if it helps in your case or not but no harm in asking someone. So far after 2 mths I have no problems except for on and off spotting but it's meant to take 6 mths for that to settle itself. If you don't plan another baby for a while it's pretty good cause it lasts 5 years but is easy to take out when you are ready.
Smashlee I would be nervous too! lol.. it is quite daunting to think about going from 1 to 2 but you have 9 mths to get used to it and when baby no 2 comes after you settle in with the new baby it just become life, getting the 2 organised etc..
JAW - I hate solids - I can't wait for the time when Ella is eating what we eat. My favourite age is 3 mths - the baby has settled somewhat but BF is enough and you still get smiles and goo-gahs. Now at 8 mths I have a crawling, cheeky monster! Although my 3 year old is a walking, talking cheeky monster so you can't win :rolleyes:
Really should get to bed so no more personals but hope everyone gets some decent sleep tonight.
JLeesmum
17-11-2009, 09:08
hey mks, im hearing you about hating solids!... altho Jyden is eating what we eat now so thats great! cant ella handle the texture?
im finding that now J has 2 bottom teeth, he is finding it harder to spit food out, he gets all angry and frustrated..
speaking of food... my mum was playing with J, i came inside to see what they were doing... mum was feeding J a wafer stick ( the pink, cream, and choc ones with the cream in the middle). so i said "MUM he will choke on that".."no he wont"....then J starts choking on it....rrrr.
mumma2ajem
17-11-2009, 09:59
this has probaly been asked beofre but i can not be bothered looking back to find out :) is anyone ttc another bubby yet as of last night me and dp decided we would :yes: we were going to wait until around feb but we dont want a xmas baby although if it takes a few months it will end up like that and if that is the case that is still good would just prefer to not have a chrissy baby
oh i just seen the new xmas icons how cute :tree::noel::reindeer::xmas: i love xmas
ok enough rambling
TIA
JLeesmum
17-11-2009, 10:59
miss louie- ive gone off the pill and am due for AF soon ( i think).. so watch this space
mumma2ajem
17-11-2009, 11:08
oh and another question has anyone tried the low tech/natural gender swaying i would be over the moon with girls but would also love a boy:yes: any tips??
i know some ppl dont agree with this or beleive in this but i thought i could give it a go and see what happens
Smashlee, I haven't tried to give her any of our food yet. She's still eating puree and I don't know.. I just think she's a bit young yet. I started giving Michael our food at about 10 mths I think. I'll have to start giving her some pasta and rice soon in with her meat and vegies and slowly introduce from there. She is used to very bland food so I can't hit her with too much flavour at once :laughing:
Miss Louie - NO WAY! lol.. The 2 I have are enough for now. Although I am really undecided on whether to go for no 3 or not. If we do it will be a couple of years away I think.
Chistmas is so soon.. aghhh.. too much to do in too little time!
JLeesmum
17-11-2009, 12:11
mks- i found Jyden would choke on 2nd stage food (puree with lumps) but if i let him feed himself, he eats it all! i just mash a banana with a fork on to his highchair.. with omlette, if i try to spoon feed him, he chokes, but if i make the peices big enough so he can pick them up he doesnt have a problem at all.
he even had curried egg the other day..lol
we went out for chinese for a bday dinner, J loved the fried rice!!
Misslouie we would be if damn AF would return. I'm giving serious consideration to weaning as it would seem that my body is one that is not going to start ovulating again until i completely stop BFing. F goes 7 - 5 without milk and has done for about 4 wks and has done 11-5 for about 2 mths but still no sign.
What to do?? I really want to be knocked up in the next 6 mths so feel like we need some ovulating to start sooner rather than later as F took a while, well not that long I suppose - I was pregnant twice in 7 mths (mc first time around)
Aah human resilience is a wonderful thing - 2 mths ago I would have shot anyone who suggested I should get preggers again sooner rather than later. In fact DH received a number of emotional break down responses when he suggested it!
mumma2ajem
17-11-2009, 13:20
Misslouie we would be if damn AF would return. I'm giving serious consideration to weaning as it would seem that my body is one that is not going to start ovulating again until i completely stop BFing. F goes 7 - 5 without milk and has done for about 4 wks and has done 11-5 for about 2 mths but still no sign.
What to do?? I really want to be knocked up in the next 6 mths so feel like we need some ovulating to start sooner rather than later as F took a while, well not that long I suppose - I was pregnant twice in 7 mths (mc first time around)
Aah human resilience is a wonderful thing - 2 mths ago I would have shot anyone who suggested I should get preggers again sooner rather than later. In fact DH received a number of emotional break down responses when he suggested it!
i hear you on the emotional break downs dp suggested we try about a month and a bit ago and i just lost it yelling at him telling him if he wants another one now to carry it and give birth him self ( if only i wish :yes:) but now im just ready sounds weird but a month in time makes a difference :)
hope af returns for you so ttc can begin although i know many women to fall preggas while b/f and with no return of af maybe it my just happen :fingerscrossed:
Just a quick one because I'm absolutely shattered. Kar, as weird as it sounds, perhaps you could go on the min pill for a month to bring af back again and when you stop taking it again you should start ovulating again. Just a thought.
Me, doing you mean knackered, or shattered?
i'm knackered, josh is squeeling all day, lordy, it's annoying, and af is visiting, i'm always sooo tired the first few days...
enough whigning...
night girls.
just a quick one from me, firstly a big thanks to everyone for their support over the last week, I really needed it. It's wonderful to know that I have somewhere I can come and be honest about how I'm feeling and not have to hide behind a smile :hugs: thanks agian
Went to Byron Bay today so I'm buggered!!! My aunt is over from England and I haven't seen her in 5 years and I'm quite close to her. She's staying with Dad up in Bris-Vegas but I met them in Byron Bay today. Aunty Sue is the first person (other than Dad) from my side of the family to meet Cady so it was a really fun day. My cousins are 30 and 28 so its been a bit of a head spin for my Aunt to see a baby up close and personal again :laughing: But Cady and I were breakfasted (yes I ate breakfast today :eek: ) and dressed and out the door by 8am and didn't get home until 6:30pm so its been a very long day. Cady was so well behaved though, I was very impressed, despite the awful heat.
So, after a few days off the pill, I'm completly back to my old self. It's great to have some energy and motivation back. DP came home from work yesterday and mentioned that I look so much better (in a postive way, he wasn't trying to say I've been looking bad hahaha) and he thought I must be feeling better coz the dishes were done in the morning and I had gone to mothers group when he came home for lunch. He has an interview tomorrow for another support workers position :fingerscrossed: all goes well
JAW - now the fun starts, solids is fun at the start, then its a chore...The easiest thing I've found is keep a packet of wipes handy and keep a messy mat under whatever it is you're feeding in. That way cleaning up only takes a few seconds, and if you want to be picky you can get back to it later when you have time.
misslouie - nnnnoooooo nonononono! nonono! no! No TTC here. Everyone says I'll change my mind on this, but honestly, I feel as strongly now as I did when Cady was first born. I don't want to go through all that again. I love Cady more than anything in the world but I cannot do that again lol. Once is quite enough for me :o
ok. seriously need some :sleeping: time. DP would likethe computer back also. I've made sure this week that I give myself at least 10 mins of alone time to curl up in bed to read a book. It's so great. I wish i'd started this months ago. I miss my quiet time and we've got hundreds of books in this house. I really recommend it!!! I usually fall asleep reading though.
LeeJ yep I meant knackered, but to me shattered is a step after knackered, so yep felt pretty shattered after yesterday!
Last night wad possibly more exhausting than my day yesterday, it went something like sleep for 1.5 hrs, feed for 1/2 hr, sleep for 1.5 hrs, feed fir 1/2 hr etc etc. So tired this morning, REALLY need coffee!
Well because I completely lost yesterday and it's now only 3 sleeps til dd1s birthday party, I need to work my butt off today. I need to buy a new cake tin, source more natural food colouring(because I ordered them online but the colours I want are out of stock:hair:), a well as vacuum , mop, washing, and the rest o the regualar weekly cleaning stuff. At least her present is bought, wrapped and hidden, the rest can just fall into place:)
Just Add Water
18-11-2009, 07:20
Bay and I went to bed at about 11 last night and I think after his protests we ended up falling asleep about half 11... roll on to 5.15 this morning when he wakes up saturated (didn't have a night nappy on - he usually wakes about 3 and I change him then) so I get him a bottle, get him changed and he's still asleep now at 8.15am!!! Go Bay! Except now I'm going to have to wake him to get him dressed to take the kids to school. Meh.
I am going to mcdonalds after I take the kids to school and getting breakfast. I have been really strict with my diet and totally flat out - this morning I am coming home, eating crap and sitting on my **** for a couple of hours. Miss 6 is killing me. And master 5 is fast becoming her deputy and starting to branch out on his own. One I could just about handle. I can't deal with 2 of them. Bring on fat food!
omg, josh is driving me mental...
he squeels for a good part of the day, doesn't get waht he wants, squeels, gets what he wants, squeels, ok, got to go, squeeling again:gloomy:
Just Add Water
18-11-2009, 07:39
*hugs* LeeJ - I hope you get a break with it all soon... I put some music on in Bay's room yesterday (Black Eyed Peas) and he actually lay there listening to it - the most he did was sing along a bit and sit up and play with his toys. It gave me a break from the clingy little boy I seem to have at the moment.
JLeesmum
18-11-2009, 09:29
AHHHHHHHHHH Jyden is being a little #$%^&*&^%^%$!
he WONT let me put him down AT ALL, i was on my last strings at the end of the day yesterday, just started to get teary. DP walks in the door, and Jyden starts laughing at him....GGRRRRR i couldnt even get a smile ALL day.
do top teeth seem to hurt more?? i didnt even notice the first bottom teeth come up..
and OMG, look at the video i put on FB haha my lil head banger!
J also pulled himself up into standing position yesterday!!! (trying to get into the bath....uh oh).
im so frustrated... i have NO IDEA when AF is due... im pretty sure it was a while ago...hmmm.
i was looking at old photos of us as kids, i was looking at how close in age we all were. it made me decide i am definatly ready for another one!! WOOT WOOT
Whinger here too. BUT if I take him out he is fine, so bascially we are spending most of the day out and about - walk, park, coffee, visit friends etc. Is getting me through although it is a bit exhausting! This morning I was trying to get up of the floor and F just hung onto my clothes - went from my t-shirt, to my jeans to my ankles as i stood up. Was kind of funny but indicative of him being a pain in the but!
He is completely obsessed with standing though so I figure it is natures way of ensuring I am not too far away until he has worked out how to get down again with just falling over.
Breathe zen mummy.
actually have a result! omg..
the nurses have decided that Cady has a bad case of separation anxiety, they've given me some stuff to try and they are booking us into the lismore day stay sleeping and settling clinic. been trying some things today, its a pain for now but in the long run it will hopefully pay off.
DP just came back from his job interview. he got some positive feedback from them and they'll let him know by tuesday if he has the job :fingerscrossed:
at least if he gets the job i wont have to wash dirty smelly sweaty laboring clothes anymore :laughing:
JLeesmum
18-11-2009, 15:06
thats great Karice! about cady, and the work..
looks like my DP has found some work too...YAY only 150kms away this time...
trifecta
18-11-2009, 20:35
:reindeer: aww how cute is that!
Karice, good to hear things are looking up! Fingers crossed the job comes through for Lee. We have a seperate washing machine for Chris work clothes :yes: He comes home black some days and his uniforms are so gross, I refused to wash baby clothes and our clothes in the same machine! Actually we needed a new one cause the old one broke, then DP fixed it so we have two.
Off to Brisi tomorrow, so will be away for a few days ha not that I post that regualary anyway. Just incase someone misses me :p Looking forward to seeing you Jess for a coffee and nappy exchange!
:xmas: aww
:noel: I love this one!
So I'd better go, big day tomorrow and I haven't started packing yet.
Jacob is super clingy too for those with cling ons. He's such a character though, he makes me laugh all time then he gets going and we both roll around giggling. lol
I think he will be full on crawling by the end of this week. He's up on his knees and does a little shuffle before going on his belly. He spins around 360 so fast it makes me dizzy too.
Oh yeah, I was meant to be going.... :snow:
Hi everyone!
Hope you are all in bed getting a good night’s sleep. I’ve just finished hanging up a load of washing, after finally getting Lily to sleep so thought I’d pop in to say hi.
Sounds like a few of our bubbas are a bit clingy and grumpy at the moment. I do ridiculous things like hang up washing in the middle of the night as Lily is quite hard to put down when she is awake in the evening… DH often helps me but he’s madly trying to finish a photobook for his brother’s 40th.
LeeJ - thanks again for all your help with my questions about MCNs, much appreciated. I have decided to give them a try.. am waiting on some fluffy mail (a trial pack) from itti bittis and will contact Renee shortly to order a trial pack of issy bears. I’m looking forward to giving MCNs a go on Lily.
:hugs: So sorry to hear that you’ve had a rough couple of days with J. It’s so hard when the squealing is non-stop. I hope that if DH can’t give you a short reprieve that maybe someone else close to you could give you a short break. I wonder if he’s about to cut some teeth. Lily seems to get most unsettled in the few days before teeth cut through. I hope it passes quickly for you hun.
The baby led weaning seems to be working well for you and J… might have to try that a bit more with Lily, especially with veggies (she seems to turn her nose up at veggies that I puree). I think I became quite conservative after DS1 because he would gag and vomit at the slightest lump… this continued for quite some time.
Karice - you and Lee have done so well to get to where you are now…. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m glad the nurses were some help and hope their suggestions help with Cady’s sleeping… it certainly sounds a lot like separation anxiety. I’m pretty sure this probably comes into play a lot with Lily at night time, hence why she sleeps with me in our bed and won’t settle until I go to bed (yes, think I’ve made a rod for my own back but have to admit that I do love her being next to me too). Hope the day stay at the settling clinic goes well. Sounds like it was a good decision to come off the pill.. great that you’re feeling so much better already. Good luck to Lee for the job!
Me - hope you find all the things you need for DD1’s birthday and that all the preparations go smoothly. I had to have a coffee this afternoon to pep myself up a bit after an exhausting day. Hope you aren’t wearing yourself out. You seem to be very organized so hopefully you can kick back and relax a bit too.
JAW - great to hear from you. Hope all the packing and de-cluttering is going well…. And doing all of that while managing a household and looking after 4 kids… I want to know how you fit it all in! You must be superwoman!! Well done to Bay on his enthusiastic journey into the world of solids!!! Sounds like he is heaps of fun! Good on you for treating yourself to Maccas brekkie and a little time out for yourself… you more than deserve it.
Smashlee - that depo needle sounds like it has some nasty side effects. Hmmm…. Sounds like it might be time for you to think about taking a HPT… how exciting!!!! Hope to hear some good news from you soon!
Mks - shame you didn’t find the shoe, but as you say, a great excuse to buy some more! Hope your work isn’t being too much of a burden… it would be nice for you to enjoy your remaining months of maternity leave without all that pressure.
Misslouie - how exciting that you and your hubby are going to try for another baby! Hope we hear some good news from you soon! Re gender swaying, I was sent something a while back from Melbryan (one of the other March mummies)… I’ll see if I can dig it up and send it to you (hopefully tomorrow). If you are tracking your ovulation and timing of dtd, then supposedly you are more likely to have a boy if you dtd right on ovulation (male sperm swim faster but don’t survive as long as the female sperm).
Kar - that’s great that you and DH are wanting to go for another bub! Like you, I found that AF didn’t return for some time after the boys and Lily were born. With the boys I didn’t get AF until they were around 14-15 months old (number of BFs per day were around 3x day) and I haven’t had AF return yet since Lily was born (but she does BF throughout the night). We tried to get pregnant with DS2 as soon as AF returned… after 3 months of no result, I stopped BF (wound it down gradually) and was pregnant the first month after I stopped BF. I got pregnant with Lily while I was still BF DS2 (he was having 2 feeds a day but none overnight) and weaned within about 2 weeks of finding out. For me, it seems I need to be doing less than 3 BFs a day to become fertile. Could you consider dropping a BF and then see what happens (if you are still wanting to continue with BF for now)? Me’s suggestion was very interesting, I didn’t know you could do that. Hope it happens quickly for you!
Hubnbubby - have a great trip to Brissie! Great that you and Jess can catch up. Jacob sounds like such a cute little character. Love all the Christmas icons! :noel:
AFU - I should really be in bed as I’ve been tired today. After school drop off I went to a morning coffee gathering with some of the other school mums and then went to visit my sister at her new place in the hills. A nice but tiring day…. DS2 was a bit hard to manage today (especially when he got tired late in the afternoon) and Lily’s daysleeps were really just short naps, but she was quite happy to be out and about.
Anyway, better dash. Lily just woke for one of her regular night feeds… she’s back asleep but I better head to bed before she’s up again. Plus I need to be up before 7am.
Good night! Catch you all soon.
Lisa :wave:
Lisa my dear, how on earth do you function on that amount of sleep?:hugs: I never understood how draining, and down right depressing, sleep dep was till I encountered motherhood...
I found quite a few vegies he wouldn't have a bar of in puree form, but being able to eat them himself, much happier, his favorite is broccolli and asparagus! We'll see how long that lasts LOL.
There will be a few coughs along the way, but they are very capable beings ;) I was very concerned myself, but you will surprise yourself at how quickly she will adapt!
I wish dh was here more often, he works so much, he got sunday afternoon off last week, so doesn't make for alot of time out. I'll be leaving J with mum for an hour or 2 on friday, wish I had of started doing it a long time ago, as it is wonderful :o but it took me a long time to get over my 'proudness' that I'm not a perfect mum, to allow someone else to look after him for an hour or so, also, with his reflux, I felt I couldn't 'inflict' him on anyone else, not that mum would have ever minded.
He is still a gummy shark, so perhaps his teeth are moving again, poor little poppets.
I'm absolutley in love with my mcn's now, this is the same chickey dee who laughed when a frend suggested them when i was pregnant ;-)
But I didnt know that mcn's existed, or all the harsh realities of sposies, so now I'm keen as mustard to spread whatever knowledge I have found to anyone remotley interested, LOL.
hnb, hearing you on the clingy bub! josh and i have laughing session too, their laugh is just so darn cate hey!
Me, i can understand shattered after that sleep session!! :-( I hope she was better last night, how are the birthday plans going?
Well, last night was the absolute best nights sleep I've had in a very long time, Josh slept through and didn't get up till 7am:goodvibes:
He's been a terrible sleeper, so i am just happy to get a little repreive, if only for one night.
ok, better go do something productive!
I'm waiting on fluffy mail too, fingers crossed!
thanks for the suggestions Me and Lisa. Decided last night to drop a BF and see how we go. Not quite sure which one - I don't have much milk at his bed time feed and he has a bottle top up then anyway so maybe that one, but then maybe if i drop his mid afternoon milk that might help things along.
will do some research!
Karice that is brilliant news, hope Cady starts to settle better for you.
Really sorry but yet again don't have the time to go back through and do a heap of personals.
I've just given in and taken William out of his sleeping bag and wrapped him again, and he has gone off to sleep. I just couldn't handle anymore screaming, but I am disappointed because I really thought we had sorted the wrapping situation. I know he can sleep in his sleeping bag but he is so hard to settle, he just seems to be comforted by being wrapped.
I guess it's nothing to worry about really, at the day service settling session I went to last week they were wrapping a 9 month old. They also said that if they refer me to sleep school they will really push for me to start wrapping Will again. Right now my sanity comes before a sleeping bag and after spending most of yesterday in tears I just can't do it again.
JLeesmum
19-11-2009, 10:02
hi pippa!
have you tryed leaving his arms inside the sleeping bag?
or get a winter one and tuck the sleeping-bag arms inside the bag...??
Yeah I tried to leave his arms inside but he can get them out no problem. Good thinking about one with sleeves although won't they be thick? Bit concerned about him getting too hot.
JLeesmum
19-11-2009, 13:23
he should be ok in just a nappy and singlet... or tie the sleeves in knots so he has more room to move( if thats what he wants?)
pippa - cady sways too and fro wrapping and not wrapping, ive given up really, i just let her lead me and do what she wants. this week we're back to unwrapped coz she's too hot wrapped :o
What's going on here? Very quiet....
Hi Marie, guess it is the great BH switch of of 09! Maybe a few people are trying to break the habit!
Not much to report - 9 mth check up today - his actual 9 mth birthday. 8.65kgs and 73 cms - my boy is huge! Our MCHN thinks it is very very likely he will be walking pre 12 mths, argh!
He has his two eye teeth popping through but with absolutely no drama, which is lovely but he has fully reverted to 5am wake ups. I am going to try not feeding him and leaving him in his cot until 6 for 2 wks. If that doesn't work I will accept he is just an early riser who might occassionally let me have a sleep in!
Hi Kar, Poor you! I have to say I am so lucky with my 2 - they both like a sleep in until at least 7 am. Thank goodness for that. We still have no teeth here. I guess she's only 8.5 months but DS would have had at least 4 teeth by now. My friend's little girl just started walking at 10 mths. I hope that isn't me! Crawling is bad enough lol.. I think Michael was about 14 mths but I think Ella will be a bit earlier. She started to pull herself up on the couch today - it's not going to be too far off. I think she'll be walking by 12 mths but who knows?? Should get back to my work.
:wave: anyone who pops in.
trifecta
24-11-2009, 20:06
Gosh it is quite in here. Hello to everyone reading but not posting... and to everyone posting too of course :wave:
We just got back from 4 days in Brissi and had a few 'firsts' while we were there. J just started his wobbly crawl the day we left and now (day 5) he is super fast and is in to everything and does not stop all day! He's so cheeky to the monkey, he knows when he's into something he shouldn't be.
He claps his hands when you say 'clap clap' and when we sing 'if your happy and you know it' :yelclap:
He can wave goodbye which is sweet.
And he did his first poo in the bath :o Had to be at someone else's house! lol
And tonight he ate an entire lamb cutlet and about 5 heads of broccoli :chef:
We got our santa picture taken too at Westfield, had to be done even though we had to que for an hour.
Nice to be home again, will be back down again in 3 weeks for x-mas.
Everyone commented on how big he was and that he looks like a little kid now and not a baby. Yip he's growing peoples. Someone even told me they thought he was the size of a 2yr old! Ha they obviously don't have kids. He's not that huge, weighs close to 8.5kg I think now. Still no teeth here either.
That's my update anyway for anyone that may be the slightest bit interested :santa: :reindeer:
JLeesmum
25-11-2009, 14:35
:) there IS people here...
kar- i never even thought of having a check up for Jyden... should i? the last time he went was for his 6 month needles..
and Jyden wakes at 5am EVERY morning, since day dot... but i was up at 5am my whole pregnancy so i spose.. hes been used to it for 18 months now..
which ones are the eye teeth? the ones next to the top ones?
oh dear.. Jy is 10.5kgs..hehehe and 9 months in 1 week..
hubnbubby- jyden has been commando crawling for a month now, hes pretty bluddy quick too!! goes for everything he isnt alowed.....llike the dogs ball, cords, or anything thats out of place.. and putting EVERYTHING in his mouth..
we had a nice nappie full of leaves one day..ewww
well.. its the first time DP has had to go away for work.. we managed 2.5 days, then went and saw him.. it was fun actually, they are staying near a paddock of cows.. i mooed and they came over (*ahem*DP said i must sound just like a cow). then Jyden looked and Mooed....oh so cute
the house is so quiet without DP.. ive had no dishes for 3 days! or filthy washing..
ahhhhh xmas pictures with father christmas is a good idea..didnt thin kof that.. duh.
oh, and just incase anyone wanted to know.. i got AF yesterday.. :(
i didnt know if i was ready for another one yet, but i thought, if i get AF i will be either releived, or disapointed. im disapointed so its DEF time to seriously start trying.. :)
Hi:waves:
wow mks I'm so jealous! 1 if not both are always up before 6, I don't think I'd know what to do if they slept in til 7 lol!
HnB hes just got such a grown up face, but no way does he look like a 2yo!
(((hugs))) smashlee, af can bring such joy to some and such disappointment to others. Hopefully it won't take too long to get your bfp!
Not a lot to report here. Dd1s birthday party was on the weekend, Christmas is in full swing here and the pools become a family favorite again:).
Just Add Water
25-11-2009, 21:37
Ever sat there wandering how the hell you can get out of something that you didn't realise you'd sunk so far into? Life is seriously ****ed. Whatever, soldier on, hey? Good luck to everyone with their bubs and their lives - I'm out for a bit.
Everything ok JAW? Obviously not. Hope things improve soon.
I am having one of those days too. Too grumpy to even get into it but work is driving me bananas. I wish I could just quit but of course I need a job to go back to in Jan so I just keep biting my tongue. :hair:
Hubnbubby he can't look 2 if he weighs 8.5 kg!!! Ella is just over 8 kg and that's right on 50th percentile I think.
Anyway better go do some more work :-(
JLeesmum
26-11-2009, 09:53
are you ok JAW?? dont dissapear on us.. :( im always on FB if you need to vent..
things DO get better..takes time tho
Just Add Water
26-11-2009, 17:43
I'm fine, sorry. Don't worry about it. Basically trying to work out what I have in my marriage that is worth fighting for - apart from the kids. But let's be honest here, despite the fact that I have raised them for the last 4 years I have no claim on them whatsoever. And that's the only reason I'm still here. Oh well that and the fact that I have no guts to do anything else.
my facebook hasn't worked in weeks so if anyone's tried to get a hold of me, sorry but i cant see it.
went the the tresillian settling clinic place today, starting all new habits, just have to put up with a whole lot of screaming tantrums for a few days. She actually slept there for an hour and half, no bottle to settle, no dummy, no falling asleep on me. oh, she screamed, and she tantrumed for a good 40 mins but she went to sleep. she's just one of those kids that will use whatever tactic to get me in the room apparently. so, no more dummy, no more bottles to fall asleep with. just have to ignore the intense tantrum, every 15 mins, walk in, a breif pat and 'you're ok, go to sleep" and out again within 30 seconds. if she's not asleep within the hour and it doesnt look like she's going to, then she gets up, has a drink, read a book something nice etc... than back in bed at the first tired sign.
it will work, i just have to stay strong. it did work today, i just have to distract myself so im not tempted to go in and pick her up. have a shower, vacuum the house anything like that.
oh, and the social worker i saw today said that i've got PND :( she's going to see how the sleeping goes, if after a few weeks of more sleep and a bit more freedom in my daily routine without being chained to cady i still haven't picked up then she's going to recommend that i go onto anti anxiety meds coz i'm so wired all the time. i dont want it to come to that so cady is just going to have to tantrum and deal with it coz i mean business now, bedtime is bedtime. :shame:
JAW - please don't fade away from us, we all love you and want to know you're ok, and if you're not ok, then at least know that you can have an honest vent about how you're feeling :hugs:
ok got to go, sorry for the short and sweet, its been a long day.
JLeesmum
26-11-2009, 18:55
karice- do YOU think you have PND? or just sleep dep? i have been told i was depressed in the past, and offered anti depressants. but never took them because i didnt think i was depressed,i was just going thru a bad time.
sorry but i think its a bit harsh for a doc to say you have PND..its abit different if you brought the subject up tho..
but... he could be right too.. i dont know your circumstances..
trifecta
26-11-2009, 20:12
Good to hear that with a bit of persaverance it's working Karice! I need to get tough too, he's starting a bad habit now of bed time is play time and it takes about 3 or 4 ups and downs from the cot to the boob to get him asleep. Humm, he's always sitting up when I go in there so I don't think he will go to sleep without my help?!
JAW - Do you think with DH been away at the mo that everything is harder and thats not helping the situation? There is obviously more going on but dam those kids would be lost without you and they know it and your DH surely knows it. I really hope you get that fresh start in QLD that you need and it works out for you. Hopefully once the stress of the packing/move/x-mas yet alone everything else, settles and your there, things will be easier and happier for you. No matter what though, you need to start putting yourself first and find what makes you happy, the rest will follow. And everyone else WILL be o.k. Thinking of you, I hope you don't leave us, but do what you need to. :hugs:
JAW - at least the move will put you far far faaaar away from the silly cow that causes you and DH so much grief. Those kids might play up on you, or misbehave, but I have no doubt that they love you, and there is no legal peice of paper in the world that can change that. If push came to shove, the courts would decide which home is better for the children, and they would send them where they are safe, warm, fed, clothed, cared for and supported. The man I call my dad is not actually my dad, he's my step-dad. When mum died, my biological father didn't really care where i went, my uncle wanted me (for my inheritance) and my step dad loved me most of all and wanted me, 2 hours in court and he got sole custody of me.
smashlee - i think it could be a bit of both. If anything, the PND was probably triggered by a combo of extreme sleep deprivation and just way too much stress. I'm sure I'll pick up once Cady's sleeping settles down. If she's sleeping, she'll be happier and more content and we won't be chained to each other with her clingyness because she's so tired.
AFU - ok, Cady was put in bed around 6:30 last night, had an hour of screming and tantrums in the cot. After an hour, she had a drink of water, nappy change, back in bed. Another half an hour of tantrums and then she was asleep (8ish) and not a peep until 6:30 am this morning. No dummy, no night feeds, no falling asleep with bottles on mummy's lap. I was in bed by 9:30 pm for the first time since she was born, had a full nights sleep and today im busting with energy. So, although I don't believe in control crying with little babies, at 8 months old it really does work and (i really don't care what anyone is going to say about this) i don't feel bad or mean or sympathetic to her tantrums in the slightest. She's not hungry, she's not thirsty, she's not in pain, she's not hot, not cold, she has a clean nappy, she just needs to go to sleep, on her own. Tough love the nurse said. She was in such a good mood this morning, she had a massive breakfast, ate the lot.
so yeah, its really working. if anyone that comes to my house DARES to tell me i'm a bad mother for letting her cry god help them :mad: its the only thing thats worked in 8 months. she's only crying coz she can't get her own way, i'm not picking her up and im not sitting next to her, it's just a tantrum, and mummy ain't listening lol. Nice push-over mummy has left the building, you're left with i-mean-business mummy, so deal with it Cady lol
JLeesmum
27-11-2009, 07:50
hear that Cady? mumma means bussiness now! ..DONT mess with her...
great news!
it really is amazing how different I feel today compaired to how i've sunk over the last few months. I feel like I've been given a licence to live again. I've gotten so many things done today that have just seemed so overwhelmingly hard, like taking out the rubbish for example, because I finally have been shown that she won't cry forever, she's still going to love me when she gets out of bed (after a good sleep ofcourse) and the best thing I can possibly do for her is give her to opportunity to learn to self settle on her own. A few days ago, hearing her cry in bed really bothered me, i was angry all the time, i felt desperate, i was living in silence for fear of her hearing me. This morning i've been carrying on with my day, doing dishes, doing laundry, collecting noisy rubbish like bottles and plastic bags and its not affected me at all to hear her cry. Best thing i've ever done for our whole family is going to the sleep clinic. happy mum = happy family
That's great news Kaz! I'm so glad to see you so chipper!
Indies fighting sleep so much this afternoon!
Good on you Kaz. Cady seems to be exactly what Michael was - it was so hard to hear him cry but in the end it was always just to get his own way. I should have put my fiit down as early as you have but I didn't. To be honest it was only just before Ella was born that I decided enough was enough. By the of course he was 2 (!) so he went into his big bed and although he still doesn't like to go to bed he does go and stays there until he's asleep (after 100 bedtime stories :laughing:) You will be so much better off in the end.
:hugs: JAW
goodlord, ive gotten more done today than i used to in a week! my kitchen is reasonable, laundry done, rubbish out, clutter ok, washing done (not hung out yet though) took cady to swimming lessons, we've both had a good afternoon sleep (seperately!) and she's happily playing on her own. I CAN PEE WHEN I WANT TO!!!!!!!!!! :smiliedance:
The place isnt perfect yet, but ive got a months of housework to catch up on, little by little it'll fall into place
That's fantastic kaz I'm so excited for you! Don't rush with the housework, just take it easy and make sure you enjoy some down time each day.
I'm exhausted today, sunburnt from a great day out.
JLeesmum
29-11-2009, 09:22
A few days ago, hearing her cry in bed really bothered me, i was angry all the time, i felt desperate, i was living in silence for fear of her hearing me.
glad im not the only one...ive tried CC with no luck, because like you, i just cant stand to hear him cry.. my heart starts racing and i get really annoyed and angry. then when he WAS sleeping, id get ****ed of at DP for making noise (even just putting shopping away!).
up untill 3 days ago id been rocking Jyden to sleep in a squeaky rocking chair..it was the only way i could get him to sleep (without listening to him cry)..but weve gone cold turkey and ive taken the chair away.. now i just hold him in my arms-in his room (with the lights off) untill he closes his eyes (usualy5 mins) then i put him down, still half awake. im going to keep this up for a week, but hold him for 5 mins, then 4 mins, then 2 mins etc:fingerscrossed:
wow - quiet in here this week :(
the CC is going very very very well. There's no more absolute anguished screaming of 'how dare you wlak away from me" for an hour, now its only around 20 mins of on/off whinging and then she plays with her own voice squealing and giggling to herself, she rolls around a bit and then goes to sleep, no matter how much noise is going on in the house and I never ever have to go back into her room now to re-settle. Day sleeps are now 2 - 3 day sleeps for around 2 hours, if she has a late arvo nap then that's around 40 mins. Her night sleeps are BRILLIANT. She goes to sleep at 7ish and STAYS asleep until around 7 the next morning. I've vacuumed, had showers you name it, she sleeps through it all. :smiliedance: Right now i've got music playing at the computer which ive never been able to do. We can all speak at a conversational noise level without fear. It's so good.
For anyone that's interested, here's how the nurse explained it to me for WHY this method works in older babies. (babies older then 4 months, not any younger)
Everyone, babies and adults alike have a sleeping pattern of light "waking" sleep and deep sleep. During these "waking" periods, adults usually reposition themselves, rearrange blankets, subconsciously check that everything is ok, you smell, listen, feel and briefly look for danger. If all is well and everything is "normal" you go back to sleep and have no memory of the waking. If for example you "wake" to find your pillow missing, it would feel "wrong" and you would wake up more fully to investigate. If you find your pillow on the floor then you would pick it up and go back to sleep. If you couldn't find your pillow at all because someone had stolen it, then you would wake, get angry, frustrated, upset and try to find it. If someone came and stole your pillow every night, eventually you would try to stay awake to prevent this loss.
All babies get used to a certain way of falling asleep to a particular sleep environment. For us its our bed, our pillow etc... For some babies it might be in mums arms, with a dummy, drinking a bottle or boob. Then they get put in a cot, then they "wake" only to find that everything is "wrong" mum is gone, dummy has fallen out, bottle is empty, boobie is missing etc... because they can't get up to re-establish the sleeping environment themselves they cry out until you come back because this is HOW they fall asleep. This will keep happening night after night hour after hour.
We were taught on thursday, she's not hungry, shes not thirsty, ches got a clean nappy on, she's tired and she needs to learn a new sleeping evironment and teach herself to go to sleep. Be prepared for screaming, kicking, tantrums, howling etc... Babies mirror their mum's emotions. If we are upset, distressed etc then they can see that and feel they should be the same way. So, when its bedtime, have a quick cuddle, read a short story, place in the cot, give them their blanket or teddy or whatever, in a calm yet cheerful voice "you're ok, its sleep time" and walk out. The first few times you'll probably have to go back and repeat this every 5 - 10 mins for the first half hour. Do not stay in the room any longer than 30 seconds as this will only make it worse. Their crying should be intense until a peak and then start to "wind down" with stop/start crying. It might still be loud crying but will stop briefly and start again. They should fall asleep shortly after this. If after an hour they are still not asleep, provided its not time for a feed or anything, you can then go in, get them up for 5 - 10 mins, do something nice like reading a book, have a quick drink and then back in bed. They will soon learn how to go to sleep and that mum means business.
The first few days we've had to put Cady back to bed 4 times a day as she was showing tired signs within half an hour of getting up. Now her sleeps are getting longer, she's able to stay up longer in between sleeps. She's eating more solids than ever before. She's a much happier girl when awake. She's not a clingy whining baby any more. Her development has gone in leaps and bounds. She's much happier, I'm much happier, Dp's much happier. I've had 3 nights in a row of solid 8 hours unbroken sleep and I feel a million $'s. My housework is getting done and I still have time for myself. It really is amazing. I know not everyone agrees with CC, and yes these nurses say it should never ever be done to a baby under 4 months old, but at this age, the risk of SIDS is dramatically decreased and clearly you're not going to totally abandon them while they're fussing. Once she's asleep I usually go in and rearrange her blankets etc... make sure she's comfortable.
But hey, it cant be bad if all the above mentioned good points are happening already, plus she's going to sleep dummy-free. They won't cry for ever and in the long run, if they (and you) get decent sleep its much healthier for everyone. They will still love you when they wake up, and another benefit is that they learn they can't push mum around! :shame:
I hope this has helped anyone that was thinking of giving it a go. I've had the most difficult child in the world to get to sleep. Last week she was still waking 3 - 4 times a night and only one half hour sleep in the day. Totally opposite now!!!
JLeesmum
29-11-2009, 21:49
WOOT WOOT Karice- i feel like jumpimg up and doing a happy dance for you..:smiliedance: .
Cady must know she has to be on the "good" list for Xmas pressies..:santa:
what you said makes sense (about the pillow falling off the bed thing), someone once told me the exact same thing!
were slowly still getting there, like i said before, ive banned the rocking chair and now he gets a 5 min cuddle in my arms (usually he closes his eyes) then straight in bed.
its working so far..
he sleeps 2-3 two hour naps during the day, and sleeps 6.30pm-5am with 1 or maybe 2 dummy spits (as soon as i put it in, he goes straight back to sleep and the first dummy spit is ALWAYS 2 hrs after he's gone to bed)
ive tried putting him to bed at 5.00pm,6pm,7pm,8pm,9pm,10pm and 11pm.. EVERY morning he is up at 5am..:thumbsdown:
so ive been trying to cut out his 3rd nap but its not working...
i just cant CC, it breaks my heart when all he wants is a quick cuddle
Hi Girls
Well I have had a quick scan but I think it will take me months to catch up on what all you guys have been up to! You could all pop on here and write a quick paragraph of what has been happening with each of you for the past 8 mths just for my benefit! :laughing: Just kidding.
I have finally crawled my way out of the last of my Post Natal Depression thank the lord! It was a struggle but I have gotten to the other side of the tunnel and doing fine. My 8 yr old Jamie will be 9 in 2 months, I cant believe he starts Year 4 next year! My lil guy Tyson is finally sleeping through the night and in a big boy bed! And we have just started toilet training. He is 2 years old now! And my little angel Riley is doing great. He is still breastfed but he loves his solids now and he has just started taking a bottle once or twice a day. I hated BFing when I started but now I love it so I wouldnt change it for anything. He doesnt sleep through the night but he does have a nice nap in the middle of the day and I have just started to get both lil ones to have their naps at the same time! :smiliedance:
Anyways I hope everybody is doing great!
Tam
xx
welcome back Tam!!!!
:hugs:
It's so good to hear the cloud is lifting, you've done such a great job with the boys, i'm so glad it's all looking up!
(it's tommo by the way ;)
cant stick round, will be back tomoz
xxxx
Hi everyone!
We have had a couple of bad days as Ella has a cold and she is so miserable. Sunday night I got 2 hours sleep and she only slept for about 4. All day Sunday adn yesterday she was SO clingy. We all slept last night though so hopefully she's on the mend. I took her to the dr cause she sounds like she's wheezing to me but he says it's just viral and her chest is clear so fingers crossed she is better in a few days. Not much else going on around here. I am bombarded with work (even though I am officially on maternity leave :rolleyes:). I have said though that I will do what I can and that's that! I am dreading going back to work in Jan cause even though it's only for 2 days per week I know my workload will be huge.
Pebbles good to see you back again! How's the toilet training going? I hated it but Michael is thankfully tt now (except at night). He does wake up dry some mornings. He just turned 3 though so it took him some time to get there :rolleyes: I didn't start until her was over 2.5 though and within about a month he was really good. What is unfortunate for me though is that he has cut out his daytime sleep so I don;t get any peace! He does go to daycare 2 days per week though so that's nice that I have those days just with Ella.
Smashlee I think some kids just have certain sleeping habits. For Michael it's that he won't sleep before 8 / 8.30. I have tried everything but from a little baby he would never go down before then. He sleeps until 7 / 7.30 every morning though which is great (until I go back to work when I have to be gone from the house by about 7.30!)
Karice, glad to hear how well it's all going. It;s surprising how much a good night's sleep can help you! (well maybe not so surprising really but you know what I mean.)
Karice good to hear the CC is working, think we may have to give it a go here. I thought day sleeps were improving as we had a few days of 2 hour sleeps in the mornings, but now we're back to 40mins this morning and he's currently in his cot crying. I hate fighting him with his sleep everyday, I just find it so hard listening to him cry when I'm home alone, I get so frustrated.
trifecta
01-12-2009, 19:54
Your not alone Pippa! Same goes here, some days he's o.k, some days he screams for an hour or two. I've tried to leave him as per CC but when I go in like 15 - 20mins to lay him back down and say time for sleep etc, it just makes him worse and we are back to hysterical screaming. I've persevered for 2hrs once, but couldn't handle it after that. Whenever I go in his little face is absolutely wet from tears, snot and dribble. : (
I'm obviously too soft.
Last night wasn't such a good night though and he was in bed with us and then kicked all night and was attached to my nipples the whole time.
Anyhoo enough grumps, he's gone down without a fight tonight and fingers crossed he stays that way awhile. I've put the air con on for him to see if that helps.
Girls don't worry. As good as CC is for some I don't think it works for every child. I perserved with Michael and he would cry for hours and hours and it just never worked. We even went through a stage where we would let him fall asleep on the couch :eek: and then put him in his cot becasue we could not get him to sleep otherwise. The good news is that he did eventually start going to sleep on his own. For us the big step was putting him in his bed at 2 and reading bedtime stories. Ok I know that sounds so far away when the babies are only 8 mths old but my point is that you try everything and then despair when nothing works (I shed many tears over what a bad mother I was cause I coldn't get my 2 year old to sleep at a reasonable hour) but eventually you get do get there. Even now he likes to go to bed late - he's still awake at the moment (but in bed). I have stopped worrying though about what other people say (such as it was my fault he didn't go to sleep at 7.00 like all others kids) and I know that my kids are happy and healthy and reasonably well behaved :laughing: and that's all that matters! ok.. rant over..:o
HnB your stronger than me to last 2 hours, I wouldn't have even made it that far. CC was what I resorted to with DD1(at sleep school), but DD2's personality is so different and I just don't think she has the personality for it, as well as me not having the strength to do it without the help of sleep school to get me started, so I'm just not even going to go there this time as for me, that's the easier option.
Pippa, you went to a day stay clinic a few weeks ago didn't you? I would talk to whomever referred you there and tell them things are still not good and I have no doubts that they'll refer you to sleep school. The good thing about getting a referral at this time of the year is that when I went(the week before easter), I found that a lot of people were put off going on a week with a public holiday(because they only got 4 days instead of 5), but I was so desperate that 4 days of help and encouragement was better than none. Plus 4 days was more than enough to get DD1 sleeping(and feeding) better. So my point is, that if you feel you need sleep school, :fingerscrossed: you'll get in soon, even if it's only for 4 days rather than 5.
AFU, DD2 has an eye tooth moving about so has been super grumpy and clingy for the last few days. Last night for the first time in a very very long time I couldn't put her down, at all. She spent a large chunk of last night sleeping either on me or nestled into the crook of my arm, or with me holding her in the chair in her room(which now I have the worst kink in my neck:rolleyes:). She's also made a habit of waking just before 5, sometimes I can feed her and get her back to sleep, sometimes not, but either way I can't ever seem to get back to sleep:hissy:. So I'm up every day from as early as 4:30, then falling asleep somewhere around 9:30, then back up for at least 2 feeds(thank goodness she's dropped the 2 hourly feeds of last week!). I wish I had an off switch and could actually fall asleep at 7 when the kids are in bed and go back to sleep til 6(or later:D). Maybe over the christmas break I'll sneak some day naps in:fingerscrossed:.
Talking of christmas I picked up my christmas layby yesterday. The kids stuff is all packed away in my "harry potter cupboard"(cupboard under the stairs), and DH's is well hidden too, though that will get wrapped today and put under the tree. I'm looking forward to christmas. I know I've bought the kids more than enough in the presents department(I think 4 presents for each), plus I'll get some stocking stuffer presents, but I keep seeing things and think "Oh it'd be awesome to have an overflowing christmas tree", but have to keep reminding myself that A) there isn't the room in their toy room for excessive amounts of toys B) we don't need to spend a heap of money on them and C) it'll all just get lost in the excitement and won't get played with.
Mel there is nothing weak about not CCing. Some can do it and some can't. Fortunately for us f responded almost immediately to just a few minutes of crying. I certainly couldn't do hours of it. I think f probably just wanted to be left alone and not fussed over when it was sleep time given how quickly he responded. The first (and only) night I never left him for more than 2 mins and there were ni tears from him, just fury!
trifecta
02-12-2009, 09:27
Oh deer lordie! Had another shocker of a night, he woke at 1am and did his usual refusal of going back down after a feed. But I persevered and stayed in his room to stroke his face and another 2 hrs later he was asleep.
Poor DH though, he has to listen to the screams and try and sleep through it, then get up to go to work at 5.
So I didn't get much sleep, but he didn't wake again until 7 so at least I got 4hrs :sleeping:
And currently he is in his cot screaming again! I hate to think what our neighbors think! We live in a group of townhouse's so they are all close. He will learn eventually I hope. I know he's tired cause he falls asleep on me but then goes nuts in his cot.
slowly slowly....
....otherwise it's all good
I'm sure I would go crazy without the support of you girls so thank you so much. I feel like I'm the only mum in the world who can't get her baby to sleep, just makes me feel like such a failure. He is currently fighting his sleep and I already feel stressed, quiet on the monitor at the moment but I won't be getting my hopes up. I just don't understand why we have gone back to this when last week I was waking him up after 2 hours as I needed to go out, nothing in his routine has changed, can teeth really make that much difference?
I just don't think CC will work. I leave him to cry for a while, I never rush straight in but he can go for a couple of hours if I had the patience, obviously that is with me going in and out to him.
Me - I did have the nurse coming out to my house who did the day stay with me, that was a couple of weeks ago but I stupidly cancelled her as he was self settling and sleeping for 1.5 - 2 hours so I thought it would be pointless. Now I just hope I can get her out before Xmas. I know that Torrens House which is the sleep school in SA has a waiting list of up to 8 weeks, and the nurse told me there are far worse babies than mine so I wouldn't be a priority. I'm so stressed over this, without the support of family over here as ours are back in the UK I feel so alone during the day when he keeps crying.
trifecta
02-12-2009, 09:50
Pippa I know how you feel, your not alone. J has just gone to sleep but with help of boobie. His face was an absolute mess when I went in there, and they say you shouldn't leave an 'emotional cry'. It just breaks my heart to see him so upset, so he got a cuddle and boob.
Ring that nurse today and hopefully you will be able to get some help - at least you have that option! I live in a small town where there is nothing like that. I'm sure my DH will come home tonight and want to ship me off to Brisbane to see a sleep clinic. I'm sure the wait times are long though too.
uh better get in the shower while I can...
Girls hugs and you are in no way faired because Bub won't sleep. As you know we had all sorts of trauma with f's sleeping and whole I did give him a bump along at 7 months I honestly think he was ready to change. Prior to that any sleep training just ended in tears for both of us. I don't know what advice to give except maybe let it be and do whatever works and try again in a month and get yourselves in some waiting lists in the interim? I honestly felt like I was the only person in real life who was still feeding multiple tomes a night and rocking to sleep but it is actually just that people are not honest
urgh...i am the evil swamp monster today...at least I feel that I am...stupid AF :gloomy: It always makes me such a b!tch.
DP got his new job! :smiliedance: He's had his first 2 days training and officially starts on Saturday (thats when the new rosters start) so we're eagerly awaiting the phone call for his first shift. Fir the first 3 months he's going to be doing a bit of everything, but he can chose a preference, so he's chosen youth outreach and mental heath. DP was saying that he has this funny feeling he's never felt before, he didn't know how to explain it. I asked him what he meant and he said, I don't know, its just a different feeling inside as he's never gotten a better job while he already has a job. I started giggling and said, "that funny feeling is called achievment!"
It was SIL's birthday yesterday. She phoned us the day before and said "im going out to dinner for my birthday, be here at this time" I was ever so slightly rude... being that i've got AF i'm in a not so tollerable mood, i just snapped "we don't have the money to go out, a day's notice is a bit unthoughtful especially since you knew DP was out of work this week while he did his training" she got a bit grumpy with me but hey, we don't have $50 just laying around
So DP's best friend is back in town for Xmas. He was home all day yesterday. I let him sleep in, and I said I'd like him to do just one thing all day, which was clean the kitchen he completely destroyed in 5 minutes. He got out of bed around 11am...sat on the computer...meanwhile i'd been running around like a headless chook, doing laundry, giving cady breakfast, getting he dressed back in bed, tidying up, vacuuming, dusting, blah blah blah. I said "I'm in a bad mood due to AF, either help me like u promised or if not, it's better if u leave and I'll do it myself" 3pm rolled around and he was still on the computer, whinging he wanted to see his mate. (his mate is also godfather to Cady) i said we're not going until u clean the kitchen. he still sat on the computer. I'd also mentioned a number of times that i was hungry but i was so busy i just kept putting off making anything. then DP goes "yeah i am too..." gets up and makes himself something! grrrrr!!!! the dishes still aren't done this morning. I refused to cook last night. Once Cady was in bed, I went to bed myself. Then woke up at 3am absolutely starving (he didn't bother cooking either, he ate cerial) so he's not in my good books today. :geek: ok rant over
So cady is doing well. since she's been sleeping something has clicked in her little brain. Suddenly the whole world in one big interesting toy. She's 95% crawling, she just has trouble gettting over one leg.She's into everything, cupboard, cords, boxes, drawers anything. So soon i'm going to have to completely baby proof the house. I'm going to talk to the real estate about putting up baby barriers etc...
For everyone who's unsure about CC - its the same deal with everything, every bub is different and every bub responds to diferent things. There's no way this would have been a successful for us as it has been if i hadn't gone to a sleep school, and that's not going to work for everyone either. :hugs: then again, that's not to say that going to sleep school is the miracle cure for everyone. It worked so well for us, I just wanted to make sure that I'd let everyone know what happened for it to be successful in case they wanted to give it a go.
After a week, she doesn't really get upset anymore. She more just plays :rolleyes: eitherwith her teddy or stands up holding onto the rails. after about half an hour she starts to grizzle, so i go back in, lay her down agian, and she usually has a bit of a fuss and then goes to sleep.
oh my, ive :ecomcity: all morning. I better shut up for a while lol
ManekiNeko
03-12-2009, 21:09
Hey guys i know I don't come in here much cos I am slack lolz. Anyway thought I'd just pop in and add my 2 cents worth abou the cc. If your bub is getting really distressed and your finding it hard just forget it. I tried with Ruby at 7 months and it was abith how you described J HnB. I was pretty upset about it felt like an awful mother. Then at 11 months I just couldn't handle the not sleeping anymore and tried cc again and within a week she was sleeping through on her own with maybe a couple of resettles here or there. I assume at 7 months she just didn't understand what was going on and 11 months she got it. So yeah maybe if it's not working give it a break and then try again later. Some of these :hugs::hugs::hugs:for you guys too.
TuesdaysPrincess
04-12-2009, 09:48
Hi everyone!
Have scanned over everything briefly, but haven't been on BH for nearly 3 weeks, so there's too much to catch up on.
I did notice that everyone seems to have a clingy baby at the moment - ME TOO! I cant put Benji down at all, and cos he's a super fast commando crawler he'll just hunt me down, wherever I am! It's cute but frustrating at the same time. But at least he doesn't whinge when he goes to his daycare ladies. So that's one plus!
Ok update on us:
- Me, I'm off my PND meds and feel BRILLIANT! I am enjoying being a mum again and it feels wonderful. Some days I still get really angry but I'm able to put that anger into perspective which I wasn't able to before. I've lost 22kg since having Benji, still have HEAPS to go but things are looking up.
- Benji: nearly fully FF now, on Nan HA which is brilliant, but we still have a nice early morning BF which is just lovely, some nice mummy/baby time. He finally got some teeth, both top teeth came through yesterday, and he's a different baby now that they have finally broken through. He has slept through the night (like 10pm to 5:30am) twice now (and no, not in a row!). So sleep still sucks but hey, it'll get better! He's brilliant at day sleeps, sleeps twice a day for up to 2.5 hours, so can't complain there. Self settles really well.
- I got a new job, I'm now officially a MCHN with QLD Health. Start there on 18th Jan, so excited! No more shift work, no more weekends! Just Mon, Tue Wed each week, 8:30am to 5pm!! YAY!!!!!
- We bought a house! Finally!! We got an extended contract so move in on 30th January! It's going to be a great 2010!
Hope everyone is up to date with Christmas shopping! We got the boy's Christmas photos done last night at Chermside, veryyyyyy cute!!
Kylie xoxo
Vent Warning:
yesterday was DP's birthday. We don't have alot of money at the moment until DP's gets some shifts with his new job. I have a house inspection on tuesday, which I've spent all week getting ready for so that I could enjoy my weekend and have minimal things to do on Monday. I said to DP i didn't want to have a houseful of people here, he can go out and be reasonable if he wants to celebrate with his friends.
Somehow, I ended up with a houseful of people, my house is trashed, and he went out and woke me and Cady up at 3am, kept us awake for 2 hours with his drunken yelling. He ordered Chinese for dinner, which he told me everyone would be pitching in for, yet somehow, he used MY card, bought grog for EVERYONE and Chinese for EVERYONE with my money that goes on Cady's nappies and formula for the fortnight and nobody chipped in at all. f***ING $200 in food and grog, p!ssed away. Now he's on the couch, refusing to get up, having a go at me, coz its 10 am he wants more sleep. I AM SOOOOOOO ANGRY :banghead:
trifecta
05-12-2009, 12:41
Jeez Kaz I would have thrown him out by now! That sort of behavior I would expect from a teenager with no responsibilities , not a father and a respectful partner. Hope you get some of that money back.
Have decided CC is NOT working for us, may re visit the idea when he's older, see how he goes.
Gotta run...
Hnb when I decided no more with F I set a 5 day limit- if things hadn't improved a lot by then I was not going to keep doing it. I also set a 1.5 hr limit for each session. My point is I think giving it a break for a while is s good idea. Too traumatic for both of you
kaz, I would be furious
:iagree: with all of the above (control crying and Kaz' DP!)
Just finished cleaning up after we put up the :tree:. The floor was full of glitter - just what Ella would love to lick off the floor in the morning! Anyway my DH was annoying me tonight too :mad:. It's late and we have a big day tomorrow so I'm off to bed. Will elaborate later.
:sleeping: Goodnight!
Kaz Id be furious too!
What a weekend! Indies had the runs since Thursday, which has given her terrible nappy rash, rang the health line and ended up at the childrens with her last night, her blood sugars were low and thankfully only slightly dehydrated so we got her back on track and got sent home with "if she's still got the runs on Monday bring her back. Also bring her back if she gets worse." oh and "I know it looks bad, but that's some of the milder nappy rash we see"(yet she was screaming from the pain!). She seems fine in herself, happy, no fevers, still feeding well and still wet nappies. It's just quite odd. I put her down for some nappy off time this morning and within 15-30 mins she wee'd once and had the runs twice, so I gave up and put a nappy on her again.
Anyway, she's fighting sleep ATM, of to cuddle her.
trifecta
06-12-2009, 09:43
Oh poor Indie, hope she gets better soon! Did they think it's a tummy bug?
Pretty much as soon as I'd decided that CC wasn't working, J has been SO much happier and sleeping really well! So I'm still feeding him to sleep, but at least he is staying asleep and has only woken a few times the last couple of nights. I will start weaning him once he's 12m, and at the moment I still love BF so that's what works. I might try keeping him up a bit later at night too and wearing him out a bit more during the day so he sleeps better. I don't want to fight him into the cot anymore!
I'm very tired today but only cause we had some friends around for dinner last night and didn't get to bed till after midnight! eekk, haven't done that for a very long time. Had a few drinkies too, so it was nice. Quite one today though. J has been asleep now for nearly 2hrs too!
Oh jinxed myself, he's just woken :D He did about an hour 40, so still good.
Have a nice sunday all. x
HnB that's great news! Perhaps J sensed your more relaxed attitude?
They think it's gastro, but the runs is the only thing she's got. We've had nothing for 3/4 hours now so I'm hoping it's easing off!
It's a bit quiet around here isn't it? Oh well.. not much to contribute from us either. I think Ella is finally getting a tooth. I can just feel it trying to break through. She was sick most of last week too so the poor thing is having a pretty rough time of it. I don't think it's the tooth though.. it was the runny nose and blocked nose and wheezing. I am hoping Michael hasn't caught it off her cause he was a bit warm last night.
Me I hope Indie is better. Babies with the runs.. yuck!!!
Anyway, will run off now.. lots to do today.
I have made a Dec thread, but don't know how to do a link
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=307881
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