July 2009 Babies #2 [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

staceylee

24-10-2009, 08:34

Hi Ladies :wave:

Sal - Have a great time in melbourne! DH amd I love it there. We have only been 3 times for a couple of weeks each time to see some bands but really love it!! I loved the Aquarium, its soo nice and the Zoo!! Have a great time at SIL's thing, sounds fun!!

Eleeandmum - Hope your stay comes up quickly for you and that discharging isnt to stressful for you. What did you do in the Navy? My dads best friend was in the navy, he was on the subs for ages. Whenever we went to Sydney he would give us a tour.

Kimmi - I hear you on the weight thing! I have lost my preg weight but still need/want to lose another 10-15kgs which I was trying to do before getting preg!!

Moo - Many :hugs: for you and your family hun. We are here for you whenever you need us.

AFU - H has been sleeping through the night for the last week and a half which is lovely and is getting really good at putting herself to sleep. We had our first day at work/care on thursday, went really well. H had a great day had a huge sleep in the arvo and a little nap in the morning. The girls said she was really easy which was a relief :) and it was good to know I could go see her whenever because she was in the room next to the one I was working in. The girls brought her in to see me a couple on times which was nice. So was survived our first week!! Happy Im not doing anymore then 2 days though because I dont think we could handle it. I missed her like crazy though!
I have H a little baseball uniform to match her Uncles with his name and number on it that she can wear when we go watch him play baseball on friday nights. He seems to really love her being there and so does SIL and everyone else that goes :D
H has her specialist appointment on tuesday so :fingerscrossed: everything is ok and it can be fixed without to much trouble. Ok best be off and feed bub as she has just woken up, love her so much :bee:

Kimmi77

24-10-2009, 19:33

Hey,

Well girls ive been walking everyday, not huge walks but at least a half hour.. so hoping this helps shift the flab on my gut,but and thinghs ewww. Just to top it off i have those lovely mirrored wardrobes, that just show off all the lovely jiggly bits... lol

AFU: Maddy is doing so well, she sleeps well at night, during the day different story. I noticed today that it looks like a tooth coming through on the bottom gum, but was told by a few people that this can look like a tooth and get fooled easy, so will wait and see how it goes. Cant believe she will be 12 weeks on monday, crazy.
The inlaws are still giving me absolute hell, the sil making rude remarks about maddys appearance and the mil is favouring grandkids, so ready to blow my fuse... so dont know what to do... grrr sorry about that but had to get off my chest.

anyway hope you girls are all doing well with your bubbas

K
xx

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

24-10-2009, 19:45

Hello lovelies!

Massive hugs for Moo!!! Life is just so unfair sometimes and I've learnt that the nicer the person the crueler it can be... :no: (Personally I think we should become hard-drinking skanks then maybe everything would be great! Except that we'd be skanks... but I bet life would be kinder!:rolleyes:)... Lovely to hear you have a friend visiting soon. She must be one hell of a lucky girl!!

Kimmi- the solution is don't weigh yourself. I don't like scales and they don't like me so we have mutual avoidance... chocolate on the other hand..... ...... in all seriousness though, I just can't get motivated to stop eating junk.

Soexcited- LOL, A isn't very tall for her weight at all actually, she's only in the 75th percentile for height but the 97th for weight! Sadly I think I am probably the same! :laughing:
Tell me, what symptoms does O have of teething? I'm wondering if A might be but not sure so want to hear others stories!! Does he have a tooth through now and how long has he been doing it for?

Sassy- Also guilty of the eBay-selling here!! Mine is a little for money but mostly to clear out some junk (ie- size 8-10 clothes that haven't fitted for 5 yrs and probably never will again!!)... what's your ebay ID and I'll check out your stuff and maybe make a bid to drive prices up... ;) Nice work on the roll too, very tricky doing it the other way round!!
Not sure when we are moving A to her cot..at the moment I'm starting her off on day sleeps in there which is going well.

OJ- Glad you are feeling better, no good about the bug but you have me thinking I need to catch one too...4kg weight loss and healthy food cravings? ;)

Sal- cheers for the new thread! Hope you are enjoying melb and your night out!! Woot!!

Elle- good luck with Tresillian. Hope they get you in nice and quick!

Stace- Glad work is going well and daycare too. Must be sooo nice to have her just a room away and know she is in good hands!! Good luck tuesday hope it turns out to be 'just one of those things' and nothing too serious!

AFU- As I mentioned before I think A is teething or something, has been refusing the breast heaps in the last few days. Feeling a little rejected :(...had to express some into a bottle yesterday as it was the only way to get it into her. She seems to 'forget' she's on a nursing strike overnight though so is happy to drink from me then. i read that it can be normal for them to do that, pretty weird...it's as if she's already throwing a tantrum and wanting things her own way!

She's also been trying to chew on everything, from her fists to my nipple (OUCH!), to even lifting her tops up to stuff them in her mouth.. and lots of dribbling too, so hoping this is it and they come through quickly (although my mum tells me I was like this for months before mine came through... ). She has only been snack feeding on and off today so trying to express some so that I don't wind up with (another) blocked duct. Yesterday I expressed 150mls off one boob in about 15 mins. Much better than when it used to take me an hour to get 30mls!

Have been putting her in her cot for day sleeps and she has also been sleeping unwrapped now as she just fought and fought with the wrapping before. Took a couple of goes to get her to settle properly without it, and she still knocks her dummy out but overall it's much easier now and she can nom on her hands when she likes.

DH is DJing at a friends party tonight so pretty quiet and lonely here now the kiddies are in bed. I was invited to the party too but didn't really know most of the people who would be going and don't feel like I can leave A when she is being so fussy.... she slept for 2 hrs in her cot but now won't resettle there so I cheated and put her in the swing.

Another quick question- Is anyone elses bub trying to sit up all the time! It's driving us nuts, we can't lie her on her back because she tries to lift her head and shoulders like she is doing sit ups, and even in her bouncer when she is on a recline she wants to sit forward! Thought about getting a Bumbo for her but don't know that I can justify the cost of it when she'll probably be sitting up in a few months anyway?

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

24-10-2009, 19:50

Sorry kimmi I missed your post! Glad to hear I'm not the only one who is having teeth issues! Can't see any in A's mouth yet and can't tell if her gums feel swollen cause she just chews on my fingers if I try!!
That is awful about your MIL and SIL!! What are they saying about Maddy? :no: She is a beautiful baby!! They are probably just jealous!! :hugs:

staceylee

25-10-2009, 09:26

Well Harper wasnt quiet herself yesterday and we checked her temp a couple of times and it was with in her normal range. We went to bed and at 4am H woke up absolutely screaming! I scared both me and DH so h e got up and got her and changed her nappy brought her back in and said she feels a little warm we should chek her temp again. Now when DH says something like that she must be hot because he doesnt usually say anything unless there is a problem. So we checked her temp at it was 38.6. I know that isnt really high but H has never had a temp before ever. She is usually around 35.7-36.4. SO we gave her some panadol and gave her a bottle which she vomited all through our bed. DH changed the sheets and rang the hospital to see what to do about when to give her more panadol, if we should bring her in and how to keep up her fluids. So after talking to the nurse we put her back to bed unwrapped with just a sheet on in a nappy and singlet as suggested by the nurse. She slept for maybe a nother hour and a half but very restless and whimpering the whole time and then woke up screaming again so I picked her up and took her into bed with us and she slept till 9. We checked her temp again and it was 37.6 and she still isnt herself but she is doing better.
Thanks for listening ladies. This is the first time H has ever been unwell and I really feel for her. It breaks my heart watching my bub sleep and whimper and just be really unhappy. I just know how to help her :no: All I wanted to do was cuddle her but I didnt want to drive her temp up any higher but the only way she would stop crying was if I held her. Well ok I best be off.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

25-10-2009, 09:59

Awww... :hugs: for Stacey and Harper. That must have been awful. A hasn't had a temp yet, just up to 37.5 a bit lately which makes me think teething more... but there's nothing worse than when you know they are unwell and cant help them. Do you think she might have picked up a tummy bug?
Hope today is a better day for you guys. xxx

elleandsam

25-10-2009, 11:22

:hugs: to those with teething issues and :hugs: to those with sick bubbas. Hope everything gets better for all of you really soon.

AFU - RANT ALERT! RANT ALERT!

My parents had a fancy dress dinner party last night and I did all the cooking, for 20 people, all four courses. Before I had E I was a cook in the Navy, so cooking for large numbers of people by myself no problem. And the trade off was mum gave dd a bath and put her to bed, hilarious in 1880s wild west period costume! But E was wearing period costume as well, very cute. The night before I went to bed at 11pm because I was making pastry and then E woke me up at 2am and decided to begin her day at 4am. I thought that was bad...

Last night I went to bed at 11pm after the dinner party, got to sleep at 1am, and then I was woken every hour after that!!!! :hair: So not cool. So at 7am she went to my parents. At the other end of the house. I didn't care that they were hungover I needed the help. Good thing mum was just a little sleepy. She took her and I went back to get myself 3 hours sleep.

It's my sisters birthday today so we're going to Hogsbreath for lunch. Thankfully she enjoys sitting in a highchair so I can eat my steak with two hands! lol

Anyway, off to shower and pretty myself up.

Kimmi77

25-10-2009, 11:50

Hello lovely ladies,

Staceylee - hugs for lil harper... no good to see bubbas sick
Nic - OMG Maddy is doing ths same as Amaya, the bib and whatever else can fit in her gob will go in, the whole fist at times, quite amusing until she makes herself sick :( so not sure if it the teethies though, will wait and see...

AFU: Inlaws are still an issue, to answer your question Nic, just making comments like oh she has a flat head and she needs to stay awake long er at night, we shouldnt put her to bed at 6-7pm, strectch it till 10pm so she doesnt wake at 5am for her feed (which i might add m goes straight back down after till 7am)... hmmm. Also they are making judgement about my mothering, i tell you the extra stress is not helping my ms, im so close to telling them to rack off... and this is just the tip of the iceberg girls... lot more but i wont bore you with it.

Im just glad to have my healthy lil girl...

Have a good and hopefully relaxing sunday

Kimmi'xx

Lukie

25-10-2009, 15:30

elleandsam

25-10-2009, 17:01

Just a quick hello from me- have been sick with a terrible cold the past few days. Really feel for those with sick bubs- i would rather me be sick than B any day... hopeto be back when i am recovered to catch up and do personals.

:hugs:
Feel better soon!

Just quickly does anyone else feel a bit weirded out that July '10 babies are being confirmed. It makes me sad that we'll be waiting at least two years before trying for our second :(

soexcited

25-10-2009, 19:15

elleandmum - I agree feels very weird to be reading about the July 2010 babies! I went away with my work this weekend and at the annual dinner last night they were going through the new people that were there and they mentioned O (we were allowed to take hubbies and kids) and we joked that O was probably conceived after last years dinner. Feels a bit surreal that a year ago we were making our lil munchkins and now there is a whole new batch of "julyers" being conceived!!

Lukie - :hugs: - Hope you feel better soon.

Kimmi - boo to those who feel they can judge your mothering. I am sure that you are a great mother and you are in your right to tell them here to stick it. You know what is best for M, not them!

staceylee - :hugs: Hope H is doing better.

Nic -- O's first symptoms were very heavy drooling. His gums were a bit white but he didn't seem that irratated. Then he was constantly chomping on his fist or anything that came near him. Poos also changed colour (greeny) rosy cheeks (one day so bad that DH thought I had taken him out and got him sunburnt!) and then was very unsettled last weekend and Monday and Tuesday (he's not normally much of a cryer so I knew something was up). All the symptoms seemed to be teething. I took him to the doc on Thursday cos he had a bit of a cough which sounded a litle bit chesty that morning and was telling my doc about all the symptoms and she agreed he is teething. My mum said I didn't get my first tooth until about 9 months so I rang MIL and she told me that DH teeth "came up and down" from 3 months but he didn't actually cut his first tooth until he was about 7 months :eek:. But she said he was the same - would have a few grumbly days and then would be fine.

Sal - hope you had a great time in Melbourne!

Sassy - happy ebay selling. Hope you get lots of $$

OJ - boo for being sick but yay for the weight loss.

:wave: to everyone else.

AFU - went away for the weekend with my work - stayed at a really nice place with the accomodation, a wine tasting, dinner and breakfast this morning all paid for by my work. :yelclap: Was an extension of our end of financial year dinner (which somehow always gets held at this time of year) and was great fun. But DH was dropping our dogs off to be minded and one of them had a seizure and turns out that she most likely has epilepsy which is apparently very common in beagles. She had another seizure this morning so I am taking her to the vets tomorrow for testing. Our beagles were our "babies" until O was born (now they are the older siblings :laughing:) so was very stressful. She should be fine tho thankfully just got to check if we have to put her on medication.

soexcited

25-10-2009, 19:25

elleandsam

26-10-2009, 09:53

Forgot to ask the ff - any information on what formula you chose and why? Next month I am going to start weaning O onto formula during the day as will have to do this when I go back to work and he is in childcare, for various reasons, and have no idea which one to pick. I asked a friend who b/f and f/f on the weekend and her DF bought their first batch because she was really sick and couldn't b/f. He said he had no time to research it and just picked the most expensive one on the shelf cos he figured that it must be the best :laughing:. I love the logic cos that's how my DH would think!

We have had a terrible time finding a formula that works for DD and we ended up putting her on Karicare Gold. And she loves it! She's now starting to take a whole feed :smiliedance: and she's sleeping much better because of it.

S26 have a terrible reputation for constipation.

If you're going to combine breast and formula, you may want to consider goat's milk as it's the closest to breast milk :)

staceylee

26-10-2009, 10:21

Just a quick one from me before bubs wakes up again.

soexcited - We use Karicare Gold also. It was the one mum got when I was having trouble BF H but didnt know if I wanted to FF. It comes in little packets, so we gave her them before we started her full time on it as the tins can be pricey and we didnt know if she would like it. Like elleandmum said S26 has a rep for making bubs constipated. If unsure maybe ring the CYH helpline or speak to your Doctor and if you want to use Goats milk then it might be a good idea to speak with them anyway.

AFU - We had a terrible night with H. We ended up taking her to the hospital in the arvo because she could hardly breath and was having trouble with mucus in her throat, which was making her vomit and her temp kept going up. SO the doctor said it was a virus and the worst is still to come and that we should just keep up with the panadol. Very happy about that as DH and I didnt want her to be on AB's. So we got home and it just kept going down hill from there. She screamed from about 7pm till 12.30am could hardly get her to take any of her bottles. Gave her some panadol and we slept in the lounge room so DH could get more sleep. SO finally after 12.30 she slept till 3am then woke up screaming again and didnt go back to sleep till around 5.30am and then woke again at 9 had a bottle, vomited it all up, then I tried her again a hour later with a small bottle she drank most of that and is now asleep for the first time without coughing her lungs up! I was in tears most of the night because she was screaming and there was nothing DH or I could do that would stop her, we just took it in turns to hold her. I can hear her breathing from her room. Very stuffed up might have to go get some fess today I think because we are going to adelaide tonight for her appointment tomorrow. But she doesnt have a temp today :smiliedance: SO I really hope that was the worst of it last night.

Anyway on a happier note SIL and BIL had a little boy this morning :smiliedance::smiliedance: He is their 4th child. They have 3 girls and her is the 7th grandchild for MIL and FIL but her is the first boy as the rest of us have girls.

Got to go H has just woken up. :hugs: to you all

soexcited

26-10-2009, 10:42

Thanks Elleandmum and Staceylee. He wil be due for his 4 month immunisations in a few weeks so I might leave it until then and have a chat with my GP. That will still give me a month and a half to wean him onto formula for his daytime feeds.

:hugs::hugs: for lil Harper. I hope she makes a speedy recovery. It is heartbreaking when they are in that much pain. At least she has her mummy to give her big cuddles!

babycart

26-10-2009, 12:43

Hi everyone

has been ages since i posted so i'm going to try and make it a big one while S is sleeping:

I have H a little baseball uniform to match her Uncles with his name and number on it that she can wear when we go watch him play baseball on friday nights. He seems to really love her being there and so does SIL and everyone else that goes

Her baseball outfit sounds so cute. DH has started playing tennis again and I took S down to the clubhouse over the weekend and everybody loved her too.....i'll have to find S a little tennis dress to wear :yelclap:

Hey,

Well girls ive been walking everyday, not huge walks but at least a half hour.. so hoping this helps shift the flab on my gut,but and thinghs ewww. Just to top it off i have those lovely mirrored wardrobes, that just show off all the lovely jiggly bits... lol

The inlaws are still giving me absolute hell, the sil making rude remarks about maddys appearance and the mil is favouring grandkids, so ready to blow my fuse... so dont know what to do... grrr sorry about that but had to get off my chest.

9months to put the weight on....take a few more months to take it off and don't stress out too much about it :hugs: for the MIL

AFU- As I mentioned before I think A is teething or something, has been refusing the breast heaps in the last few days. Feeling a little rejected :(...had to express some into a bottle yesterday as it was the only way to get it into her. She seems to 'forget' she's on a nursing strike overnight though so is happy to drink from me then. i read that it can be normal for them to do that, pretty weird...it's as if she's already throwing a tantrum and wanting things her own way!

She's also been trying to chew on everything, from her fists to my nipple (OUCH!), to even lifting her tops up to stuff them in her mouth.. and lots of dribbling too, so hoping this is it and they come through quickly (although my mum tells me I was like this for months before mine came through... ).
Have been putting her in her cot for day sleeps and she has also been sleeping unwrapped now as she just fought and fought with the wrapping before. Took a couple of goes to get her to settle properly without it, and she still knocks her dummy out but overall it's much easier now and she can nom on her hands when she likes.

Another quick question- Is anyone elses bub trying to sit up all the time! It's driving us nuts, we can't lie her on her back because she tries to lift her head and shoulders like she is doing sit ups, and even in her bouncer when she is on a recline she wants to sit forward! Thought about getting a Bumbo for her but don't know that I can justify the cost of it when she'll probably be sitting up in a few months anyway?

Ok Nic - few things here

Refusing breast - S has done this too. about 2 1/2 weeks ago she got really fussy, would only take approx 10mins of a feed, would refuse one side but was mouthing like she was still hungry(she would start crying and go red when i tried to put her to the boob, she would latch on, suck and then pull/arch her head back), but then at night, she would take nearly the whole feed again - i had no idea what she was doing!!!! eventually, i just stopped stressing about it. she ate what she wanted and then i would ljust try her again 30 or 60mins later. I think she has jsut gone through a bit of a feeding adjustment - maybe she has gotten better at sucking and therefore doesn't need as long on the breast????

Dribbling/chewing/stuffing her gob - i don't think this is necessarily related to teething...i think it is just normal development. remember they use their mouth to explore and learn about everything....even though our nipples cop it :o

baby sit-ups - yes - i noticed S doing this the other day...it was so cute

wrapped / unwrapped - i need to try and get S to sleep out of her wraps. she usually ends up breaking free (she also like to "nom" on her little hands. BTW i think she is right handed....has anyone else noticed a preference yet?) any tips anyone has would be great

Well Harper wasnt quiet herself yesterday and we checked her temp a couple of times and it was with in her normal range. We went to bed and at 4am H woke up absolutely screaming! I scared both me and DH so h e got up and got her and changed her nappy brought her back in and said she feels a little warm we should chek her temp again. Now when DH says something like that she must be hot because he doesnt usually say anything unless there is a problem. So we checked her temp at it was 38.6. I know that isnt really high but H has never had a temp before ever. She is usually around 35.7-36.4. SO we gave her some panadol and gave her a bottle which she vomited all through our bed. DH changed the sheets and rang the hospital to see what to do about when to give her more panadol, if we should bring her in and how to keep up her fluids. So after talking to the nurse we put her back to bed unwrapped with just a sheet on in a nappy and singlet as suggested by the nurse. She slept for maybe a nother hour and a half but very restless and whimpering the whole time and then woke up screaming again so I picked her up and took her into bed with us and she slept till 9. We checked her temp again and it was 37.6 and she still isnt herself but she is doing better.
Thanks for listening ladies. This is the first time H has ever been unwell and I really feel for her. It breaks my heart watching my bub sleep and whimper and just be really unhappy. I just know how to help her :no: All I wanted to do was cuddle her but I didnt want to drive her temp up any higher but the only way she would stop crying was if I held her. Well ok I best be off.

this must have been so hard......good work on trying to comfort her best you can

AFU: Inlaws are still an issue, to answer your question Nic, just making comments like oh she has a flat head and she needs to stay awake long er at night, we shouldnt put her to bed at 6-7pm, strectch it till 10pm so she doesnt wake at 5am for her feed (which i might add m goes straight back down after till 7am)... hmmm. Also they are making judgement about my mothering, i tell you the extra stress is not helping my ms, im so close to telling them to rack off... and this is just the tip of the iceberg girls... lot more but i wont bore you with it.
Kimmi'xx

sorry....but you can't just up and change a babies schedule overnight!!! YOU are her MUM so you just do what works best for your family!

Just a quick hello from me- have been sick with a terrible cold the past few days. Really feel for those with sick bubs- i would rather me be sick than B any day... hopeto be back when i am recovered to catch up and do personals.

feel better soon!

Just a quick one from me before bubs wakes up again.

AFU - We had a terrible night with H. We ended up taking her to the hospital in the arvo because she could hardly breath and was having trouble with mucus in her throat, which was making her vomit and her temp kept going up. SO the doctor said it was a virus and the worst is still to come and that we should just keep up with the panadol. Very happy about that as DH and I didnt want her to be on AB's. So we got home and it just kept going down hill from there. She screamed from about 7pm till 12.30am could hardly get her to take any of her bottles. Gave her some panadol and we slept in the lounge room so DH could get more sleep. SO finally after 12.30 she slept till 3am then woke up screaming again and didnt go back to sleep till around 5.30am and then woke again at 9 had a bottle, vomited it all up, then I tried her again a hour later with a small bottle she drank most of that and is now asleep for the first time without coughing her lungs up! I was in tears most of the night because she was screaming and there was nothing DH or I could do that would stop her, we just took it in turns to hold her. I can hear her breathing from her room. Very stuffed up might have to go get some fess today I think because we are going to adelaide tonight for her appointment tomorrow. But she doesnt have a temp today SO I really hope that was the worst of it last night.

Anyway on a happier note SIL and BIL had a little boy this morning He is their 4th child. They have 3 girls and her is the 7th grandchild for MIL and FIL but her is the first boy as the rest of us have girls.

More hugs to you and H...i really do hope that she is all better now and congrats on becoming an aunty :yelclap:

AFU - we are now finally settled in in Perth!!! I have signed S up for Gymbaroo, playgroup, mothers group and as part of gymbaroo I got 5 week massage course for free....our social calendar is ridiculous!!! I'm also looking into a mums tennis program where they provide a creche for bubs and a coach for mum once a week.

S is doing really well. sucking everything, smiling lots and giving us some really lovely cuddles.

she still doesn't sleep great during the day, but we have settled into a nightly routine of bath at about 530pm, feed and sleeping by 7pm. I'm slowly trying to shift this so that bath time will start at 6.30pm, so that she only wakes up once during the night (at the moment, sometimes she is up twice and sometimes once)

She still isn't taking a bottle, but we have progressed that she doesn't always start screaming when we put it in her mouth - she just plays with it. I cant help but think, that if she just (accidentally) took one or 2 sucks, she would get it and like taking the bottle like she used to!

anyway - enough from me. S is awake and is probably after her second breakfast

take care everyone

A

babycart

26-10-2009, 12:52

oh - two more quick things

Solids - who has started, what age was bubs and what food is going down best?

Singing to bubs - DH and I don't really sing nursery rhymes to S......we don't know the words. We have however made up a bunch of songs that we sing her. She has her

"Sophie Asha" song (3 verses based around her name)
"Go to Sleep" song
her nappy changing song (which when i sing to her in the middle of the night she doesn't cry anymore)
Her bath time song
Her "Bubsy Magoo" song (DHs newest pet name for her)

So what do you all sing to your little ones????

S's other favourites are speaking and counting spanish/french/german and whatever other foreign words i can think of. she loves "hola bambina" and "bonjour mon petit chou"...guaranteed smiles :yelclap:

The Fox

26-10-2009, 19:20

just a quick one fro me
they want to admit oliver to hospital fir 3 days to run some tests and see whats going on with his weight but apart from that he is over 5.5kgs now

also on solids, we just started Oliver on solids today on the advice of our peads and MCHN but i dont think it is recommended before 4 months my MCHN and pead said the norm is about 5 months

Square777

26-10-2009, 22:27

hi girls
haven't had chance to read through new posts yet, just spent a week in melbourne which was lovely.
Z is cute as ever :)

Seems that th e busy time of year is coming on and days and weekends especially just keep getting busier and busier

will try get on tomorrow and post, but I do try and keep up with reading on my mobile (but i haven't figured out how to post on it yet!)

hugs to all xxxooo

Preshy2008

27-10-2009, 08:54

:wave: Hi everyone!

I just wanted to write and say hello. I read every day, but I havent had any time to myself in what feels like a couple of weeks.. I can't believe how busy motherhood has made me. Today is my first full day at home in over a week, and there is soooo much to do..

I wanted to quickly write and say hello and that I am thinking of you all..I cant quite believe how quickly our little babies are growing up.. its a little sad.. Im trying to savour each and every day with little Mr L.

AFU things are going great.. (besides the busy-ness!!)..

When I get time, I am going to jump back on and do a big list of personals..

Take care
Preshy & Mr L.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

27-10-2009, 11:01

Hey girls,
Soexcited-thanks for the info on O's teething. A is pretty much doing the same thing, hasn't had the flushed cheeks but her ears have been really red at times. Took her to the GP and she said it is likely teething, her ears are fine (no infections) and just to keep feeding her as much as she will take. She also mentioned that at around 3mths proper peristalsis starts to kick in so it could be colic/tummy pain bothering her too.
What a nice work trip you had!! I'm a little jealous when people get to go to awesome conferences etc paid by work since I work for NSW Health there's no way they'd do something like that..lol. There are conferences but it's hard to get time off to go to them and they aren't that elaborate!
Not good about the dog and epilepsy, how did the tests go?

Stacey- Yay on becoming an aunty again! How exciting for you! Big hugs for little H, good to hear its just a virus and nothing more serious, hopefully she is recovering today... :fingerscrossed::hugs:
Let us know how the appt goes..

Babycart- That sounds exactly like what A is doing!! She does seem to be slowly improving now though, and as you said overnight she will drink fine (although she's falling asleep whilst feeding again and I'm back in the habit of feeding her in bed and falling asleep also..naughty!).. I think A is right handed too as she always got that one 'free' first when wrapped and chews on it more.
If you'll be in Perth around early jan will have to catch up for a coffee! Would be great to catch up with the Perth mummies while I'm over there!
As for songs, we don't sing too much other than when she has a bath we sing 'this is the way we wash your tummy, wash your tummy, wash your tummy, this is the way we wash your tummy, early in the evening...' and so forth with all the different body parts. She thinks it's funny!
As for solids- We haven't started yet although I think because she's a big bub she might need a little more earlier on (DS did, I think I started him around 4-5mths), so will see how she goes and when she starts looking for extra. Don't want to give up my BFing though, apart from the issues we sometimes have I am loving it.

Cassie- :hugs: honey...how do you feel about admitting O to hosp? Do you feel stressed about it or a little relieved that they are seeking some treatment for him? What solids are you starting him on, just the rice cereal or other stuff? How's he going on them? good to hear he is over 5.5kg! :thumbsup:

Dek- glad to hear you had a lovely time in melbs. Pop some more pics of Z on FB so we can check him out!!

Preshy- I know, they are growing up much too quickly. I just want A to slow down a bit, she is looking more like a little girl than a bub now! And when she giggles she kind of lifts one shoulder up and does a really shy giggle like she has just been spoken to be a cute boy or something.

AFU- Finally my hair has started falling out post-baby! Yes, for me this is a good thing (apart from the mess) as it's far too thick and heavy and I spend hours having it thinned when I get it cut. So begone horrible hair!! :laughing:
Also, just wanted to put it out there...how often is everyone DTD post-baby? I must say that I assumed we wouldn't very much and worried seeing me have a baby would freak DH out too much to ever go near me again, not to mention the lack of sleep affecting it, and I had also heard that BFing lowered your libido....but strangely enough I think we are doing it more frequently than pre-pregnancy! Maybe we are making up for the lost months when I was pregnant... ;)

staceylee

27-10-2009, 19:35

Hi Girls! How are we all today?

Well a few personals

Cassiiii - :hugs: for you and O hun. Hope the stay gives you some answers and :smiliedance: for O being 5.5kg! Good work little man!

Babycart - We sing to H whatever comes into our heads :D DH loves making up songs and is good at it, while I just sing nursery rhymes and other things like Kings Of Leon, RHCP, her fav at the moment seems to bed the new Placebo album and a few of their old songs but to get her giggling its 'The Grand Old Duke Of York'. It works everytime!!! DH like to sing 'Away in a manger' to her before she goes down at night which she seems to love.

Deking - Yay for the great time in melbourne.

AFU - H had her specialist appointment with the Gastro guy today. It went really well. She has a intolerance to the protein in cows milk. He said it has nothing to do with the formula as you guys would know :) He prescribed her Pepti(sp) Junior and this should help clear it up and the doctor is very confident that she will grow out of it by 12months. So we will see what happens. If this formula doesnt work he said to go back and he will prescribe her either Neocate(sp) or Ellecare(sp). SO hope this works. H isnt drinking much but that might be because of virus. The doctor said to just introduce solids as normal but get her onto meat pretty soon. Such a relief :)

Ok so my little nephew's name is Ezekiel John and weighs 2.7kgs. He is their 4th child and first son and grandson.

ok best be off H is in a feral mood. Night all :wave:

KiahsMum

27-10-2009, 21:28

Sorry all I have been slack, between two kids, the house, the hubby and my job I just don't have time for anything anymore.... :(

Staceylee - Just wanted to say you might find H takes a little bit to adjust to the new formula. Kiah was on neocate for the same reason as H and it is very different as are all the allergen formulas and sometimes it just takes them a bit to get used to it. You might also find her poop changes due to the different formula. I freaked out when Kiah had thick green yucky poops, thought she was sick but it was the formula. Glad you have some answers now and a plan. BTW Kiah now drinks cows milk and eats all dairy, has from about a year old.

sandy119120

28-10-2009, 06:28

Hi everyone,

i have not been able to be here a lot lately, i am happy to come and read how everyone is doing :).

A big :hugs:to all mums and bubs sick out there hope you all get better soon.

:hugs: for Moom sorry to hear about you hard time.

Kimmi - dont listen to your IL bub is absolutely gorgeous.

Weight issues - OMG i havent done much work on that deparment is really annoying as i need to loose 20 kg:eek:.

I'll try to come and read more. i had lot ot read this time.

AFU - M is doing great she is still very small well i think so my boys were really big. But im happy with her :) she is 6 kilos and 61 cms..

KiahsMum

28-10-2009, 08:28

Wow Sandy you would think Sarah is tiny, she is 4.6kgs! Sounds like M is doing very well :)

Moomum - *HUGEST SPARKLY HUGS* I am sorry to hear about all you are going through and hope the radiation and chemo improve things for your uncle.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

28-10-2009, 10:23

KiahsMum

28-10-2009, 15:43

Firstly Nic *HUGEST HUGEST HUGS* I am sorry to hear you are going through this and hope it settles well and soon.

Now I think your doctor is a nutter but that is just me. I haven't heard of a baby who preferred formula, they might get used to a teat but I wouldn't have thought a breastfed bub from birth would change like that. I express fed my first for 5 months with formula feeds at night due to reflux and she happily took both the milk and the formula. I would also call the australian breastfeeding assoc I am sure they can give you some great info and advice in your situation. I am focusing on this as it is clearly important to you that you BF and if you want to keep it up after the week you should be given the support to do that not scare tactics!

I hope all goes well, the Bell's clears and A misses her mummy milk so much she is very happy when she can have it again.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

28-10-2009, 16:00

THANK YOU Kiah's mum! :hugs::hugs: You have no idea how happy your post made me. Because even my MIL when I told her that said that she had heard babies prefer formula too as it's sweeter. I know that some people supplement feed but don't think i know of anyone who just FF for a week and then went back.
Gave her her first bottle of formula this avo with no probs, she fussed less than she does when it's EBM..but maybe I'm reading into it too much. Have now realised that since I won't be BFing her for a week I can hand the reins over to DH and he can feed her at night on the weekend. :smiliedance: So can definitely draw a positive from the fact that I might get my first all-night sleep since her birth (well actually, since about 3mths before!). Must read up on whether you can drink on 'roids....me thinks not and probably not a good idea with the droopy face so much either. :laughing:
Went and bought a new pump (an Avent Isis) which is WAAAYYY better than the old Medella I had so at least expressing is going to be easier and hopefully I can keep it up as often as I would normally feed. And if she doesn't come back maybe I will just give her no choice... :devil:
Just had bloods and off for a CT tomorrow which I must admit I'm a little nervous about as haven't had one. On the upside I'm getting it done at my work so they are bulk-billing and I am saving about $200. :thumbsup:

SammiAnn

28-10-2009, 17:45

Rightio, I have finally caught up with you girls and your gorgeous bubs and I plan to stay caught up with you all from here on in!!!!

MooMum - My heart goes out to you for your family overseas, sounds very stressful for you :hugs:. Look after yourself and that beautiful babe.

Kimmi - I'm so sorry your silly Inlaws are being pains in the rear, I think it's their loss on spending time with you and your precious daughter. I still wanna slap 'em for you! And YAY for having your xmas shopping under control!

soexcited - Sounds like you had a lovely weekend! Hope your poor doggy is doing better. Very hard when they are such an important part of the family. Good luck with the teething!

sassy - YAY for your darling rolling! Maybe your DS can teach mine to roll from back to tummy, A goes from front to back in bed then gets all cranky when he can't get back, kinda like a turtle! I hope your cold settles soon.

elleandmum - Best of luck with Tresillian hun, I hope you get some answers. And yep, I get what you mean about the new July '10 group! Seems soooo long ago since we were there but not that far ago either, if THAT makes sense LOL!

OJ - :hugs: for the gastro, not good at all, here's hoping for a fast recovery. YAY for excellent night sleeps!!!

SaltheGal - I love love LOVE your AV pic! Your DS is adorable!!!

staceylee - Glad you have gotten some answers from the specialist, hope you see some positive response soon :hugs:.

nic236 - DS has had two sessions of feeding strikes, usually after a brief lay in the cot he decides he really does want it! Sitting - yep, DS has always leaned forward, wanting to be as upright as possible which he and we are finding VERY frustrating! DTD hmmm... we're stil pretty much our normal selves there, usually 3-4 times weekly. Many MANY :hugs: for your poor face hun. I really hope it settles for you soon so you don't have to struggle with BFing.

Lukie - I hope you are feeling much better soon hun. Always seems to take longer to recover because we still have to be last on the priority list!

Sandy - You sound like you're doing well with your family, that's wonderful.

KiahsMum - :hugs:. I hope life settles for you soon.

Preshy - Glad to read you and bubs are doing great! I agree with time flying by, exciting but sad at the same time.

deking - I love how in love you are with your darling, so cute!

cassiiii - aw hun, sending lots of good vibes for your little boy, I really hope the hospital stay works out for the best if you go ahead with it.

babycart - Sounds like you have been one busy family! Seems like a good level of busy-ness, enjoy it!

Hmmm... have I got you all??? This has taken the better part of two hours back and forth so please accept my sincere apologies if I've missed you.

AFU - Where to start??? Master A has been rolling from his tummy to back for a little over a month now, but plays 'Turtle' and gets stuck on his back! He gets up on his hands and pushes himself around the cot which is cute. Nights have been great until last week when we both got sick. He and I shared a bout of viral bronchitus which we're gradually getting over, thankfully he's being very brave with the nebuliser and doesn't fight the mask (here's a pic of my brave boy (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/SammiAnn_80/Baby/October136.jpg)).

We're having a belated visit to have his four month needles tomorrow but he had a shocking night last night and an unsettled day today so not sure whether I'll still get them or not, will see how tonight goes!

We've finally settled back home ok and it feels like we've never left which is nice. Great to be back with old friends and not have to make a fresh start. I think I've said enough about us so I'll try and post this without loosing it, fingers crossed.

Have a great evening girls, much love to you and your darling babes.

Sam :sunshine:

Lukie

28-10-2009, 18:59

Nic- how awful! Did you know what it was (being a nurse and all) or was it a big shock when they told you? Hope it all gets better very very soon. As for the formula vs breast I have never heard that either- who says formula is sweeter? Not with the chocolate biscuits I get through- I'm sure my breastmilk is way sweeter!!! And you have a sweet tooth also, so you're set ;)

casiii- my heart goes out to you, a hospital stay- you must be a little scared, :hugs: let us know how it all goes- here's hoping they can get to the bottom of it all.

sammi!! so glad you're back! was thinking of you just the other day, hoping all is well. your little man looks so sweet- sorry to hear you have both been unwell :hugs:

Sandy- glad you're back too- was wondering how you were doing.

staceylee- glad you got some answers from the specialist. All the best.

preshy- another one that was MIA for awhile, good to hear from you again.

KM- :wave: hello!

AFU I must get to sleep now, so will have to fill you in on our adventures tomorrow if I get a chance. They are a mix of good and bad- maybe I can turn a long long story short? I will try... maybe dot points will work?
- B is taking breast without nipples shield, just like that :eek:
- B caught my cold and has been a cranky pants for the past few days
- B no longer self settles but wants to be rocked to sleep
- Have stopped expressing and offering top-ups as I never got a repeat of her midnight to 6am sleep which happenned 2weeks ago. She now feeds 2-3hrly, though I'm not always sure she wakes due to hunger
-B shakes the cradle like crazy everytime she moves so tonight she is in the cot. She has settled into a sloth-like position (Ice Age- think Sid the sloth sleeping over the rock) It has taken me an hour to rock her to sleep as she refused to sleep more than 30mins between 2:20pm and bedtime. :thumbsdown:

Ok off to bed for me. Hoping and praying for not too many wake-ups tonight, I am zonked.

SammiAnn

28-10-2009, 19:25

Awww Lukie you poor honey :hugs:. Your post even sounds tired :sleeping:. I'll send some sleepy prayers your way.

:smiliedance: for Miss B not needing the shields anymore, and best of luck with the feeding darl. Maybe she's going through a growth spurt and is trying to up your supply? Have you tried the lactaction boosting biscuits? I buy some nursing tea that helps my supply on low days.

As for not self-soothing anymore, maybe it's just a slight hiccup while she's been off colour and just wants cuddles from you? I'm happy to admit DD1 was BF and rocked to sleep until she was 18 months old. As she was my first I had time to do it and loved doing it too.

And a quick little :laughing: for her Sid-like sleeping, litttle princess.

Sleep well hun.

Sam :sunshine:

WotWillBWillB

29-10-2009, 16:09

Hi girls sorry for being such a stranger. As i am sure you will all understand how busy life is in my house. Plus we have been away for the last 5 weeks.

Girsl i really hope all your bubs are doing well. I do think about you girls a lot. Any way Lilly is crying again :hair: so better go get her

I will try to catch up soon :hugs:

Susan

michelleand2girls

29-10-2009, 19:52

Hi Everyone

Well I found the new thread! And have finally had a chance to catch up on all the goings on, we have been crazy busy!
had visitors consantly since June and have a 3 week break now until my parents come over for 9 weeks!
we have had a trip up to the gold coast for my brothers wedding, Elliotts first plane trip she was soooo good.
My other 2 daughters absolutely adore her and are a huge help!
well as for elliott she is now 15 weeks old and only 5.2kgs. I am paranoid about the lack of weight gain but she seems happy enough.
She is formula fed on standard S26 ( no constipation) but only take about 120mls a feed. She was sleeping really well, only waking once but in the past week has started waking twice a night, but never has a problem going back to sleep, and the little rascal does like coming into our bed at about 5am for early morning cuddles.

It sounds like you are all getting on well with your little bubbas despite the usual bugs and viruses.

Now I have found the thread again i will try not to be a stranger.

love
Michelle and Elliott xx
my FB is Michelle Ann Hill if you want to add me and check out some Missy Elliott photos, just adda message with your bubhub name too to help me out.

sandy119120

29-10-2009, 22:35

Hi everyone
Nick - i read your post in fb.....hopefully eveything will start getting easier for you. About formula i went thru the same thing with Miss M. M took easy her bottle but also went back ereally easiy to her breastmilk (no problem at all) i think they love to be close mummy more than a sweet bottle of milk :).

SammiAnn - Sorry to hear about that nasty viral brochiatus, glad everything is clearing up and bub is getting better. Hope eveything goes well with his shots , he sound like a very brave boy.

Lukie - Im soo hear you. Mis M has times where she wont just settle.. im trying to get help as my mum is going i dont want to be overtired. hope she start self setting again.

WWBW - im sure we all know is not easy to have "free" time anymore.

Michelle - I was also paranoid about weight gain but the nurse said to me as long as her weight gain is steadily it should be fine. And every baby grows in a diferent rate. and she is happy =] which is very important.

AFU - it has been a bit of confusing week, i have still problem after my c-section i have been admited to a motgher and baby unit for PND (very diffcult) and also to check some complication that i still have after Mia's birth, Not really happy fell very uncomfortable and alone but i just decide i need to get better.
M is with me so that helps heaps. but still mis my boys a lot. sorry for this..
Hope everyone has a wonderful day

elleandsam

29-10-2009, 22:45

Just a quick one from me, will catch up and do personals tomorrow.

E has been horrid in the early evenings lately. This evening it took me, my sister, my mum and my dad to settle her. Dad resorted to taking her into his room and lying her in the crook of his arm while he watched dr who and practised speaking polish to her! Lol it was quite funny. He's leaving tomorrow morning to go to Poland for a conference/training thing for the Army.

Her day sleeps are mostly fantastic. Usually I wrap her, cuddle for a few minutes, pop her in the cot and walk out of the room, when I return 5 minutes later she's sleeping!

I have the materials to make some MCNs or her and will be attempting them tomorrow before we return to Sydney on Saturday afternoon.

More later :)

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

30-10-2009, 03:07

Just a quickie while I try to wake a snoozing bub to burp and finish her bottle...

Sandy- The biggest, massivest hugs to you honey. :hugs:I didn't realise you had PND to be honest. :( How horrible for you. Glad M is with you too, hope you are able to get lots of help and support. Will be thinking of you heaps and always here to chat i you need to ( I'll msg u my no on FB). Take care of yourself and your gorgeous girl. :hugs::hugs:

flis

30-10-2009, 06:58

Hi Girls

Hmmm I have been a bit slack and not been on or posting for some time. I realised how much I miss you guys so hopefully I can find the time to play again now :-)

We are well - Miss L is just shy of 7kgs and is 16 weeks old. She is an amazing bub and has brought the most amazing dimension to DH and my lives... We just love her. Of course we have our hard times but on a whole she is just sooo good.

I must try to catch up on the goss - hope everyone is well.

Love Flis

SammiAnn

30-10-2009, 10:15

Morning girls,

Hi girls sorry for being such a stranger.

Never apologise hun! You have enough going on in your life to keep you occupied, you're doing a great job.

Well I found the new thread! And have finally had a chance to catch up on all the goings on, we have been crazy busy!

Hi darl! Sounds like you have been another very busy girl! So glad E flew well and sounds like you have a great time. I love reading about her early morning cuddles, nothing beats that first thing wake up smile :cloud9:.

SammiAnn - Sorry to hear about that nasty viral brochiatus, glad everything is clearing up and bub is getting better. Hope eveything goes well with his shots , he sound like a very brave boy.

Hi hun, many MANY healing :hugs: from me. I'm so sorry to read what you have been going through. I hope your hospital stay can quicken your recovery. I was medicated with PND after my first DD was born. Besides the medication I found talking the best thing, I had a great adult mental health worker and she was lovely to bounce all my feelings off. DH was wonderful to talk to but I didn't want to scare him with some of my thoughts at the time.

Thank you for thinking of my bubba, he's gradually improving. He was very brave with his needles yesterday and has no lumps, redness of temps so all seems good. I'm sure Mia is just gorgeous and loves her Mummy very much, take care hun.

Just a quick one from me, will catch up and do personals tomorrow.

Aw how cute is your Dad with her!!! I bet you'll all miss him. Good luck with your MCNs, you'll ahve to post some pics of your clever handiwork :thumbsup:

Just a quickie while I try to wake a snoozing bub to burp and finish her bottle...

How are you feeling Nic??? I keep hoping to read about a miracously fast recovery from you :hugs:. Enjoy those healing A cuddles.

She is an amazing bub and has brought the most amazing dimension to DH and my lives... We just love her. Of course we have our hard times but on a whole she is just sooo good.

That is a lovely paragraph hun, sums up your lives at the moment beautiful! Enjoy soaking up all that beauty.

HUGE :wave: to everyone else out there!!!!

Master A did very well at his needles yesterday, so proud of him. While he seems to have platued a bit weight-wise (could be due to be ill) he has now reached 5.9kg! Which I was happy with, until I received a message from my brothers partner that their little five week of girl just weighed in at 5.1kg!!!! Ah well, A has rolls upon rolls and is sleeping well so can't be doing too badly, though I think he is gearing up for solids. He has started following food from our plates to our mouths but I want to hang onto my 'baby' for a little while longer before starting the next stage! Ah well, whatever he needs he get!

Rightio, enough from me, a busy weekend planned so hopefully I'll get to check in something over it! Take care girls, continue to love those cute babes.

Sam :flowerz:

Preshy2008

30-10-2009, 12:26

Just a quick one from me as I need to have a bit of a cry.
Woke up yesterday and couldn't feel one side of my face and it slowly got worse and yesterday afternoon was having trouble blinking on one side and also chewing etc. Today it's even worse and I'm having trouble talking and I can't move one side of my mouth, cant taste anything etc...

So went to the doctor and I have Bell's Palsy. :crying: I have to go for a CT now to make sure it's nothing more sinister and he has to put me on corticosteroids to reduce the swelling around my facial nerve and hopefully it will return to normal (not sure when and he said in some people it doesn't if not treated quick enough). Worst part is that it's not a BF-friendly drug so A has to go on formula for the next week at least. :crying::crying: He even said that there's a risk she might not go back to the breast because babies sometimes like the taste of formula more.
I can't believe it, I just want to cry but one of my eyes is wonky and I can't blink the tears out. :laughing:

Hi nic,

Just a quick one from me.. I just wanted to tell you that I had Bell's Palsy twice when I was a teenager.. Once during winter and then a re-occurance the Christmas after that.. I know its not very pleasant at all hon, but I recovered fully in around six weeks, if I can remember right.. the steriods will defiantely help you.. they helped me..

I am thinking of you lots, and I hope that you are not uncomfortable.

I know exactly how you feel.

Preshy

elleandsam

30-10-2009, 13:23

Sammi - good news on the needles! I've booked E in for her next set and fingers crossed she'll do well too.

Nic - my heart goes out to you, I hope you're doing alright. Hang in there :hugs:

Well I bit the bullet and paid off the rest of my cushie tushies layby today! Now all of next week will be spent 'patiently' waiting for the postman :p We head home tomorrow, so Mum is going to babysit tonight so I have a night off before heading back home. No doubt I wouldn't even need to bother putting up the portacot in Mum's room because she'll end up in her bed anyway! lol Dad left for Poland this morning so there's plenty of room. I bought her a little strawberry costume for Halloween, couldn't resist it was just too darn cute!

re Facebook - Amanda Kelly Reimers is me, feel free to add me, just send me a message saying where you're from so I know you're not randoms lol.

Flying home tomorrow, hopefully E is as good on the plane tomorrow as she was on the way up :)

soexcited

30-10-2009, 16:48

wow, it's either really quiet in here or really busy!! Will attempt some personals (but with quotes as way too much for my brain otherwise)

AFU - H had her specialist appointment with the Gastro guy today. It went really well. She has a intolerance to the protein in cows milk.

Ok so my little nephew's name is Ezekiel John and weighs 2.7kgs. He is their 4th child and first son and grandson.

Hope H is starting to feel better. Glad the specialist appointment went well and congrats on your nephew.

Sorry all I have been slack, between two kids, the house, the hubby and my job I just don't have time for anything anymore....

Hope you get some "you" time real soon.

So went to the doctor and I have Bell's Palsy. I have to go for a CT now to make sure it's nothing more sinister and he has to put me on corticosteroids to reduce the swelling around my facial nerve and hopefully it will return to normal (not sure when and he said in some people it doesn't if not treated quick enough). Worst part is that it's not a BF-friendly drug so A has to go on formula for the next week at least. He even said that there's a risk she might not go back to the breast because babies sometimes like the taste of formula more.
I can't believe it, I just want to cry but one of my eyes is wonky and I can't blink the tears out.

:hugs: for a speedy recovery Nic. I have had a couple of friends who have formula fed and then gone back to breast and haven't had any problems and also have friends that formula feed during the day while at work and then b/f at and don't have any problems either so :fingerscrossed: crossed you are the same. I have the Avent pump and it is really good. Also on the 2 occasions I have left O overnight I have, in addition to doing the pump, hand expressed in the shower cos I just feels that it gets out that extra that the pump can't. Also, don't know if you are allowed to with the medication you are on but can you take fenugreek? I have taken this to increase my supply so I could build up a freezer supply and was able to express an extra 180mls a day on top of feeding O.

AFU I must get to sleep now, so will have to fill you in on our adventures tomorrow if I get a chance. They are a mix of good and bad- maybe I can turn a long long story short? I will try... maybe dot points will work?
- B is taking breast without nipples shield, just like that
- B caught my cold and has been a cranky pants for the past few days
- B no longer self settles but wants to be rocked to sleep
- Have stopped expressing and offering top-ups as I never got a repeat of her midnight to 6am sleep which happenned 2weeks ago. She now feeds 2-3hrly, though I'm not always sure she wakes due to hunger
-B shakes the cradle like crazy everytime she moves so tonight she is in the cot. She has settled into a sloth-like position (Ice Age- think Sid the sloth sleeping over the rock) It has taken me an hour to rock her to sleep as she refused to sleep more than 30mins between 2:20pm and bedtime.

Ok off to bed for me. Hoping and praying for not too many wake-ups tonight, I am zonked.

So laughing at the Sid vision but not you and your lack of sleep you poor thing . Hopefully she will sort herslef out soon. I know some people say that once they put their bubs in the cot they started sleeping through so maybe this will be B.

Hi girls sorry for being such a stranger. As i am sure you will all understand how busy life is in my house. Plus we have been away for the last 5 weeks.

I think you'r pretty magical finding time to post with twins! Hope you had a nice time away.

Well I found the new thread! And have finally had a chance to catch up on all the goings on, we have been crazy busy!
had visitors consantly since June and have a 3 week break now until my parents come over for 9 weeks!
we have had a trip up to the gold coast for my brothers wedding, Elliotts first plane trip she was soooo good.
My other 2 daughters absolutely adore her and are a huge help!
well as for elliott she is now 15 weeks old and only 5.2kgs. I am paranoid about the lack of weight gain but she seems happy enough.
She is formula fed on standard S26 ( no constipation) but only take about 120mls a feed. She was sleeping really well, only waking once but in the past week has started waking twice a night, but never has a problem going back to sleep, and the little rascal does like coming into our bed at about 5am for early morning cuddles.

I hear you on the early morning cuddles! O pretty much refuses to go back to his own bed so it's either cuddles or get up early and start the day. I normally do his last night feed at 11pm so cuddles normally wins.

Hope you enjoy your 3 weeks break.

H
it has been a bit of confusing week, i have still problem after my c-section i have been admited to a motgher and baby unit for PND (very diffcult) and also to check some complication that i still have after Mia's birth, Not really happy fell very uncomfortable and alone but i just decide i need to get better.
M is with me so that helps heaps. but still mis my boys a lot. sorry for this..
Hope everyone has a wonderful day

:hugs: Don't be sorry - that's what we're all here for.

Hmmm I have been a bit slack and not been on or posting for some time. I realised how much I miss you guys so hopefully I can find the time to play again now :-)

We are well - Miss L is just shy of 7kgs and is 16 weeks old. She is an amazing bub and has brought the most amazing dimension to DH and my lives... We just love her. Of course we have our hard times but on a whole she is just sooo good.

:wave: I have seen you in FB land but good to see you back here. I second you on the bringing the new dimension to life with DH it's like any hard times are so much easier now because our bub is here and we have our own family. Silly thinkgs that we may have argued about before don't even bother us now.

Master A did very well at his needles yesterday, so proud of him. While he seems to have platued a bit weight-wise (could be due to be ill) he has now reached 5.9kg! Which I was happy with, until I received a message from my brothers partner that their little five week of girl just weighed in at 5.1kg!!!! Ah well, A has rolls upon rolls and is sleeping well so can't be doing too badly, though I think he is gearing up for solids. He has started following food from our plates to our mouths but I want to hang onto my 'baby' for a little while longer before starting the next stage! Ah well, whatever he needs he get!

Rightio, enough from me, a busy weekend planned so hopefully I'll get to check in something over it! Take care girls, continue to love those cute babes.

Glad A did ok at his needles - how did you go? (I am way worse than O!). I think that, as hard as it is not to, you can't judge their weight on other babies as long as the doc says their ok. Enjoy your weekend.

Well I bit the bullet and paid off the rest of my cushie tushies layby today! Now all of next week will be spent 'patiently' waiting for the postman.

Flying home tomorrow, hopefully E is as good on the plane tomorrow as she was on the way up :)

How cute - you'll have to post some pictures. Good luck for your flight home.

AFU - I just can't get over how quikly time is flying. I go back to work in Jan and have so enjoyed my time at home with O that I could happily never go back again. It's just such a precious age and I am going to miss all the things he learns. For instance 2 weeks ago when he was teething really bad I had to hold the teething ring in his mouth for him to chew on cos he couldn't quite figure it out. Today it seemed like his teeth were giving him some grief and I handed it to him and he stuck it straight in his mouth and start chomping.

Anyway DH is home so better go pretend I have been doing stuff all day :laughing:

babycart

30-10-2009, 17:58

Hi Everyone

I'm going to type this while Miss S hopefully resettles her self to self. I think she woke herself up after one sleep cycle to burp and fart. I refuse to take her out of her bed unless absolutely necessary - she was already up today between 10am-1.30pm she should be :sleeping:

Rightio, I have finally caught up with you girls and your gorgeous bubs and I plan to stay caught up with you all from here on in!!!!

welcome back!

- B is taking breast without nipples shield, just like that :eek:
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Ok off to bed for me. Hoping and praying for not too many wake-ups tonight, I am zonked.

yay for feeing without shields!!!! hope you have gotten some sleep!

Hi girls sorry for being such a stranger. As i am sure you will all understand how busy life is in my house. Plus we have been away for the last 5 weeks.

Welcome back!!!! so admiring of those with multis.....it's hard enough with just one little person to look after :yelclap:

oohhhhh.......off to resettle magoo - she's fussing...aaahhhh she wants a feed between naps today

Hi Everyone

Well I found the new thread! And have finally had a chance to catch up on all the goings on, out.

welcome back and enjoy the alone time while it lasts

Hi everyone
AFU - it has been a bit of confusing week, i have still problem after my c-section i have been admited to a motgher and baby unit for PND (very diffcult) and also to check some complication that i still have after Mia's birth, Not really happy fell very uncomfortable and alone but i just decide i need to get better.
M is with me so that helps heaps. but still mis my boys a lot. sorry for this..
Hope everyone has a wonderful day

:hugs: i hope everything gets better for you real soon. as someone else said, we are here for you, whatever the need

Hi Girls

Hmmm I have been a bit slack and not been on or posting for some time. I realised how much I miss you guys so hopefully I can find the time to play again now :-)

welcome back - you are such a sweet mumma to L

Well I bit the bullet and paid off the rest of my cushie tushies layby today! Now all of next week will be spent 'patiently' waiting for the postman

good luck with the mcns....i still need to get my a into g and look at some. it would be nice to mix cloth and sposies...what's an extra couple of loads of washing!

.

AFU - I just can't get over how quikly time is flying. I go back to work in Jan and have so enjoyed my time at home with O that I could happily never go back again. It's just such a precious age and I am going to miss all the things he learns. For instance 2 weeks ago when he was teething really bad I had to hold the teething ring in his mouth for him to chew on cos he couldn't quite figure it out. Today it seemed like his teeth were giving him some grief and I handed it to him and he stuck it straight in his mouth and start chomping.

i know what you mean about them changing and growing so much. DH has only just gone back to work and is struggling that he isn't getting enough baby time....how are others' DH/DPs going with the separation?

AFU now that we are settled in, we are planning trips bsck home for visits. we are going to Brissy and Melb in November (first time on a plane without dad's help) and back to Melb for Xmas!!!! yay!!! but we are paying qantas a small fortune for the privlege

***mods - when are we getting the xmas smilies?***

Miss S rolled over yesterday - and i missed it. she was doing tummy time and when i came back into the room, she was on her back :yelclap: hopefuly she does it again soon when DH is home so we can see her "first time" together

ok, gotta swap sides for soph's feed and won't be able to reach...back is killing me already

take care

AC

kotakai

30-10-2009, 19:38

Hi :wave:

I've been reading along, but not posting. Just wanted to say hi to you all & send some :hugs: to those that need it. I didn't multiquote anything else, so sorry for no personals.

Miss S rolled over yesterday

Woohoo :smiliedance: Well done!!!! I hope you catch her doing it again soon.

And I 2nd the 'where are the Christmas smilies'?????

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

staceylee

31-10-2009, 13:17

Should H be rolling by now? She gets herself right up on her toes when she is on her tummy but wont roll over, she prefers to move forward!

elleandsam

31-10-2009, 18:00

Just a quick note to say we're back in Sydney and E is EXTREMELY overtired and cranky. Screaming and making gagging noises, I think she's triggered a reflux episode :(

WotWillBWillB

31-10-2009, 22:25

Hi girls i added some more pics of the twins (finally) to Face book so if you want to have a look.

Anyone that isn't a friend just add me and let me know who you are. Night :wave:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...9&l=63f714e0f4 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=78161&id=668931379&l=63f714e0f4)

kotakai

01-11-2009, 06:50

Should H be rolling by now? She gets herself right up on her toes when she is on her tummy but wont roll over, she prefers to move forward!

There's no set time they should be doing things. I wouldn't be worried at the moment. Cruz is 5 months & hasn't rolled either. If she's liking to move forward, she might not even roll 1st, she may just start crawling.

Hi girls i added some more pics of the twins (finally) to Face book so if you want to have a look.

Anyone that isn't a friend just add me and let me know who you are. Night :wave:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...9&l=63f714e0f4 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=78161&id=668931379&l=63f714e0f4)

Susan, they are soooooo cute!!!! Did I see you once on LAP?

Just a quick note to say we're back in Sydney and E is EXTREMELY overtired and cranky. Screaming and making gagging noises, I think she's triggered a reflux episode :(

:hugs: hope she has a better day today.

sandy119120

01-11-2009, 11:47

hi everyone...

Thanks for you all sweet words....it feels better to know im not alone thanks...

wwbwb - gorgeous babies!!!! love twins

babycart - yayy for mis S rolling :yelclap:

Sammiann- thanks... i had PDN with my first one but never said anything then with my second i talked about it with my child healt nurse coz it was getting worst but i didnt want to take medicatio coz my BF. ANd now by talking to people who experienced the same like you has helped me to get help and do the treatment so i can get better. thanks

have all nice weekend :p

WotWillBWillB

01-11-2009, 12:42

Susan, they are soooooo cute!!!! Did I see you once on LAP?

Yes hun you did, another site i nver have time to post on lol. Along with a multi's one. I only get on and read every now and then.

Kimmi77

01-11-2009, 16:44

Hi Girls,

How are we all in here???

Just a quick post from me, we are doing well.. Asking for advice here girls. Miss M is great sleeper at night but during the day she will not havea bar of her cot, only has about 3 cat naps during the day of about 30 mins and they are on me. When i have tried the cot she gets berko and ends up histerical... very confusing as she goes down really well at night and if she wakes during the night, she resettles no probs.. Should i be concerned about this??? I have tried it all. Not sure if it is a matter of waiting till she is a bit older and moving or what... sorry just needed advice..

Hope you guys had a nice relaxing weekend.

K
xx

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

01-11-2009, 20:58

Hi girls, sorry I've been a bit negligent in posting. Still feeling pretty down about the Bell's etc, feeling quite isolated as I can't drive (have to wear a patch on my right eye) and can't stay in the sun too long as even with sunnies and patch it really hurts my eye... not to mention the fact I'm on prednisone so very sensitive to the sun (as I learnt on sat at J's first cricket game). I know things could be much much worse but I'm really not liking the uncertainty of this at all. Also exhausted with constant expressing/dumping and FF. Even on the formula A is sleeping a bit better but still feeding 4-5hrly at night. I just keep thinking that maybe if I could manage a full nights sleep I might wake up able to move my face again..
DH was going to feed her at night for me all weekend which I was excited about, but it ended up only being a midnight feed on fri night cause I woke at 4am to her crying to be fed and he hadn't heard her. Wasn't about to wake him to tell him to feed her and I had to express anyway... but I did get 5 hrs of unbroken sleep which seems like a lot now. Still hanging out for 8-9 though...

Preshy- just wanted to thank you for your story. It's amazing, I'd heard of BP before but never known anyone who had it..now I'm finding out lots of people have, including a workmate and my DS's teacher. Always good to hear that most ppl have recovered well, although there is still always a doubt in the back of my mind.

Sorry no more personals from me tonight ladies. Just wish I could shake this yucky down mood. It's silly, I'm not upset that I look terrible or anything (well maybe a little), it's all the stuff I can't do like drive, go outside without an eye patch on, smile at A.... I'm so worried as it seems like she's smiling at me less and I'm worried I might scare her. :crying:

I'm supposed to be resting and relaxing etc in order to recover but I don't know how. DH has been good and all, but still going about his usual day-to-day stuff and I've had to ask him for help with housework, bub etc as he just doesn't see that I can't do much myself. Hating the patch, it makes it so much harder to do things with only one eye. Kudos to women who are completely blind and looking after bubs. :yes:

Sorry, enough of my rant.

elleandsam

02-11-2009, 05:48

nic - :hugs: don't apologise for your rant, you have every right to be a little mad about things. I'm sorry you're going through such a hard time and I really hope it gets better for you soon.

AFU - I'm desperately waiting the delivery of my fluffy mail! I have about 40 MCNs being delivered this week and as soon as they are here we're on cloth full time, can't wait! E has a new love for her bouncer and looking at herself in the mirror and squealing with delight. She's adorable. DH and I have both been casually talking about a second child but I'm not sure if I'm ready just yet. Although the family plan is 2 kids, and I hate being pregnant so it would be great to get it over and done with lol. But we'll just see what happens. Sorry rambling.

Hope everyone has a good day.

sim081005

02-11-2009, 09:47

Hi everyone,

I am from August but I am organising a meet up for the Melbourne mummies & daddies if they wish to come as well. I have a thread going so if you are interested please let me know there & I will send PM's when we have a date the suits most

Look forward to seeing you all there

sandy119120

02-11-2009, 23:03

Nic - Dont feel bad or apologize, you poor thing i cant imagine how you feel, just rest and i hope that settles very soon and you have a speedy recovery :hugs::hugs:.

Kotakai - i wish i have some advice, but mione is pretty much the same and sometimes she doesnt even settle at nite quickly. Hoever now im in this place the teach you to hel baby settle for example wrap them and rock baby with the cot not in hands. I hope it helps

have a good nite ladies

elleandsam

03-11-2009, 08:09

Advice re-self settling - we've been putting some white noise on for E as she falls asleep, while I was away at my parents place we placed a fan beside her bed facing away from her. I also put her down sleepy, not wide awake. I was putting her in bed wide awake and hoping she'd go to sleep, then my dad said "you don't get into bed when you're wide awake, you go to bed when you're sleepy, so do the same for E" and I find it works so much better. I put her into bed calm and sleepy, and she just falls to sleep most of the time.

Square777

03-11-2009, 13:29

hi girls

will try some quick personals while z is sleeping

elle- so envious of your self settling bub ;) sounds like you had lovely time with your parents. I think it was you who was waiting for your cloth nappies, I've bought Z the next size up in his beehinds- but have to prewash them few times yet before i use them. I use huggies otherwise though

Sandy- I'm so sorry you're having such a rough time, but I'm really glad for you that you're getting some support. Has your mum gone home now? But you seem like such a happy and bubbly person so I'm sure you'll get through it :flowerz:

Nic- you poor girl :hugs: do they think its brought on by stress? let me send your hubby a swift kick in the backside... mine is the same... says he'll do the night time stuff, but doesn't wake up so by then i'm awake anyway and don't see the piont. do you watch americas next top model? its all about how you smile with your eyes at A.. I'm sure she can tell, even just with one eye :p my mu has just had all her teeth pulled out... she gives Z these big gummy smiles... its pretty funny, try not to feel bad, you're still her mummy and its not just looking at you, she touches, smells, hears you etc too. is it cos of prednisolone oyu can't breastfeed? cos when i had that rash, my dr was going to give me short course of it and said it was ok to breastfeed? but in sa our womens and childrens hospy have a breast feeding/pregnancy pharmacist you can call, which i did when i took all the stuff for my rash. PM me if you want teh number, maybe they can give you some info re: the meds and breastfeeding?

Kimmi- Z has pretty much reached both ends of his bassinet, so bought a portacot for our room as his cot won't fit. but to be honest i put him on our bed for all his day sleeps, put him in his cot at night, but when he wakes for feed he stays in bed with me anyway. And he doesn't self settle except at night really falls asleep feeding. So for the day i'd just put her wherever she is happiest... but thats just me

stacey- Z has rolled on teh odd occassion but not doing it much now. but he loves to stand on his legs, pretty much takes all his weight on them.

well AFU, i don't post as often as i like to, but i do read.
Z is just gone 14 weeks, i can't believe how much time flies.
Still having huge MIL issues, I had it out with her, but she refuses to see how anything she did was wrong (ie, giving us a letter after Z born, telling me how much she thought hubby loved his x g/f when he was 15 but then met me)!!!
I feel bad, hubby is in a hard spot but he is so blaze' about it, but I just can't stand anything to do with his parents. And i definitely don't want them being overly involved with Z, i don't like their religious beliefs as they pray and praise the lord if anyone is sick etc before they see a dr, and i'm just not comfortable with that, amongst many other things.

Z doesn't laugh or squeal yet...babbles lots and talks and blows raspberries.... I guess he'll do it when he's ready. But he makes this funny noise when he knows boobies are coming...cracks me up! like he huffs and puffs cos he's so excited.

As far as sleeping is going, getting a routine happening which just seemed to appear by itself when we were at my friends in melbourne.
He falls asleep between 7-8pm, i wake him before bed for feed. but without fail he wakes at 2-3am, but often i just put dummy in and he goes back to sleep. And has feed at 5-6 am.
But how do i stop this night time waking?? sometimes i spend ages resettling him if he spits dummy out, and it takes its toll on me by morning. other nights he resettles and is fine.

have figured out if we lay with him in bed, or i have figured how to rock him gently he will fall asleep, and his day sleeps are slowly stretching out. and have to stroke his face, sometiems a dummy too, often though not.

Hubby leaves a lot to be desired in the helping most days. he sleeps in til 11 am or so, then leaves for work at 2, but doesn't get home til after midnight. Just feels liek i never get a break, I'm pretty much always the one who feeds(obviously) but also, settling, changing, and most of the playing too. don't get me wrong, hubby loves him, but i just feel like I'm the one making all the sacrifices.... is this just how being a mum is??

Z was the best baby on the plane to melbourne and back. THe man i sat next to even told me, Z was the best behaved baby he'd ever sat next to lol, I was so proud :p he's such a happy boy and pretty relaxed, i just want to squish him with kisses all the time!!

ok well will prob be ages before i post again but i'm still here xxoo

elleandsam

03-11-2009, 16:25

Deking - :hugs: regarding your MIL issues, must be so tough. Yes it is me who is stalking my posty, I'm waiting on three parcels at the moment, one of MCNs from eBay (they were spongebob patterns, couldn't resist as I'm a huge fan) one of my full time cushie tushie pack, and one of fabric that I bought in Queensland but couldn't fit in the suitcase it was just over 5kgs and will be used to make some MCNs using the wee weka pattern and a few wraps as well. E doesn't self settle every time but even once a day during a nap is fine by me!

AFU - had a lovely afternoon with my mother's group for the Melbourne cup. Currently E is talking to herself on her playmat, and has just worked out what to hit to make the music! She also popped her dummy back in her mouth for the first time today, although she forgot to let go of the handle so it flew back out again :laughing: all in all, pretty good day.

Kimmi77

03-11-2009, 18:49

Hey Girls,

Nic - hope you are feeling better soon, hope A sleeps well for you darl. I cant imagine what bp is like but i know with the ms when i was first diagnosed i went through a few stages, its hard but you sound like you have lots of support from family and friends and from us chicks in here of course... :)

Deking - Yeah i was happy with M just sleeping where she was happiest during the day till the Maternal Health Nurse told me off, i was all happy bout her sleeping well at night and then she cut me down and told me off bout her day sleeping habits :(

Elle - Sounds like you had fun with your mums group, oh and i hope you got your fluffy mail, im looking into doing cloth for Miss M, having a look on few websites, so many cute o nes to choose from , like Issbears the best.

AFU: Still no luck with the day sleeps, arhh well i will keep trying but im jsut happy that she is sleeping well at night. Had my family over for a bbq for the cup today which was good fun, didnt have any winners, bummer.

Anyway have a nice night..

K
xx

sandy119120

03-11-2009, 23:10

woooho 2 nites nites posting =]. As i am in this Hospital i got more time..to read and post.

Nic - hope you are getting better sending you lots of hugs.

Deking - thanks is nice to know that =] Ihave to be honest i hesitate at first before coming here but it all seems to be the right decision. I am feeling better slowly but much better. sleeping all nite, well my boys just did it one nite no receipes or nothing they will do it eventually and yours looks like is almost there. Miss M still wakes up once.

AFU -No Winers here :no::hair: no very lucky today. lol. doing good mum is leaving next sunday. she is trying to change her ticket but the airline doesnt want to. but i hope it can be done....and Miss M is doing great very sore this pm with colic poor thing but settle downs eventually.

elleandsam

04-11-2009, 10:27

Kimmi - hope you have some luck with the day sleeps, we're having some on some days and cat naps on others, I've heard it sorts itself out when they start moving because they just wear themselves out!

Sandy - colic can be such a downer :hugs: hope it gets better for you and that your mum can stay a little longer.

AFU - we received our cushie tushies this morning and I am so impressed. The washer and drier are getting a work out today. Can't wait to start using them. We had a great night last night, slept 8pm-4am straight back to bed after a feed and then back up at 8am. Then back down for a nap at 9.30am and just got up then, just under 2 hours. We're doing well.

SammiAnn

04-11-2009, 11:50

Hi girls,

Sammi - good news on the needles! I've booked E in for her next set and fingers crossed she'll do well too.

Good luck with your babes needles, I'm sure she (and you) will do fine. Your mirror story is sooooo cute! And on the next baby thing, we're going to start TTC again soon, we are slightly worried the next one may take a little longer like A did and don't want a big gap but after having bub and I sick for a week DH and I are kinda... hmmm... are we up for another little lone yet??? Yay for your fluffy mail! Happy washing.

Glad A did ok at his needles - how did you go? (I am way worse than O!). I think that, as hard as it is not to, you can't judge their weight on other babies as long as the doc says their ok. Enjoy your weekend.

Thanks hun, I was fine, I think I'm one of those callous mothers! While I feel for the poor things getting jabbed I don't get worked up myself, I think this helps them not get stressed. I truly believe they pick up on our moods and react accordingly. I'm sure you'll do fine with O's next ones :hugs:. And I agree with you re weight, he's content and sleeping well so I know he's getting enough, just was kinda a shock when the six weeker only weighs 800grs less than my four and a half month old!!! Though she did weigh nearly three pounds more than he did at birth! Enjoy cuddling your precious babe.

welcome back!

Thanks darl, :smiliedance: for the rolling!!! Have you both caught bub in the act yet???

I've been reading along, but not posting.

I know that feeling! Though I got so slack that I wasn't even reading :(. Hope you are having a good week and your kidlets are behaving for you.

Hi girls i added some more pics of the twins (finally) to Face book so if you want to have a look.

I'm off to have a sticky now hun, I'm sure they are as gorgeous as ever! Well done for finding the time to keep us up to date on your busy lives.

Sammiann- thanks... i had PDN with my first one but never said anything then with my second i talked about it with my child healt nurse coz it was getting worst but i didnt want to take medicatio coz my BF. ANd now by talking to people who experienced the same like you has helped me to get help and do the treatment so i can get better. thanks

So glad you are on track hun, you can and WILL get better, you are doing a wonderful job, let me know if you ever want to chat hun. Take care :hugs:.

How are we all in here???

Hi Miss Kimmi! Sorry but I have no advice about day sleeping. I have friends IRL that have had bubs that have only and will only cat-nap through the day. I really REALLY hope your DD changes though, good luck hun.

Still feeling pretty down about the Bell's etc,

Awwww Nic :crying:. Never think you have to apologise for your words in here. I wish I were near to you to be able to help. You are a wonderful Mummy and all this will be behind you very soon. Let me know if there is anything I can do hun.

But he makes this funny noise when he knows boobies are coming...cracks me up! like he huffs and puffs cos he's so excited.

That is adorable!!! And yay for him doing so well on the plane, fantastic! And as for the sacrifices thing, yep, I get that feeling a lot too. While DH is wonderful when he is here, I'll admit I am jealous of his one day weekend cricket!

Big 'hello's to everyone else out there, hope you're all doing well.

Take care,
Sam :flowerz:

Sassy75

04-11-2009, 20:01

Hi lovely ladies,

So sorry have not posted in ages.

Nic - have sent you :hugs: on FB but you can have some more hun. Thinking of you and hope the BP vanishes soon.

Sandy - :hugs: hugs to you too.

Kimmi - with sleeps during the day I used to find that A got hysterical when he was fighting sleep. I had to hold his hands firm on his chest with one hand and with my other hand gently stroke his eyes shut whilst I "shooshed". When it got too much for him to fight he would normally just nod off.

Hi to everyone else I do not chat with on FB. I just don't get enough time to read and post these days but I try to at least read and am always thinking of you all.

AFU - well I really can't complain. A is 3 months now and is just a delight. He is the happiest baby I have ever encountered and just laughs, giggles and chats his way through the day. He is such a smile flirt and knows when to turn it on for an audience. He has found his voice so just makes this "hoo hoo" sound all day in different pitches and sometimes with a gurgle thrown in. He has started rolling as well...mostly from back to front which MCN told me was rare for his age but he is just so eager to get moving. God help me when he starts crawling...I know he will be a terror :rolleyes: He is sleeping well during the night and will only wake once if he goes to bed early, but if I do a dream feed around 10pm he will sleep through. He then has 2 decent naps in his cot during the day without too much fuss. He just knows the drill now.

He did wake at 5.30am this morning though so I fed him and tried to trick him and put him back to bed before the sun came up so he thought it was still night time. He was too smart for me and hear the birds and was wide awake so thankfully DF got up at 6am to go to work and let me go back to bed whilst he settled him. Sometimes he has the magic touch.

A loves rhymes and singing and just smiles his way through every song we sing. I have also put a mirror on the wall next to his play mat and he is amused no end with his own reflection.

Even BF is super fast these days...he finishes in 10 mins. I do worry about my supply sometimes because he is continually gnawing on his hand and putting objects in his mouth & sucking at every opportunity (including my Dad's nose and my osteo's chin!!!). He seems happy after a feed though so not too worried.

I do feel like I have less time because he is much more active when he is awake and moves everywhere so I have to keep an eye on him but can't complain...only that he is growing up too fast.

I am heading up to Byron and Brisbane on Sat to see my sister and do some wedding stuff so will be out of action for a week but hope you are all well and will catch you all when I am back. :fingerscrossed: he is OK on the plane!!

Take care everyone.

S xoxo

soexcited

04-11-2009, 21:36

Hi Ladies

Just trying to fit in a post before I get O up for his dreamfeed otherwise I will fall way behind.

Miss S rolled over yesterday - and i missed it. she was doing tummy time and when i came back into the room, she was on her back hopefuly she does it again soon when DH is home so we can see her "first time" together

:smiliedance: for the rollover. Hope you get to see it soon!

Should H be rolling by now? She gets herself right up on her toes when she is on her tummy but wont roll over, she prefers to move forward!

O is the same. He rolled over twice when he was really little and nothing since. He gets so frustrated on his tummy as he is trying to crawl instad of roll that he ends up in tears and I give up and let him go back on his back. Maybe O and H will just skip the rolling and go straight to crawling!

Hi girls i added some more pics of the twins (finally) to Face book so if you want to have a look.

They are adorable!! You must be so proud.

Just a quick post from me, we are doing well.. Asking for advice here girls. Miss M is great sleeper at night but during the day she will not havea bar of her cot, only has about 3 cat naps during the day of about 30 mins and they are on me. When i have tried the cot she gets berko and ends up histerical... very confusing as she goes down really well at night and if she wakes during the night, she resettles no probs.. Should i be concerned about this??? I have tried it all. Not sure if it is a matter of waiting till she is a bit older and moving or what... sorry just needed advice..

Don't really have any advice except to say O is not always the best sleeper during the day in his cot either (was the same when he was in the cradle - has been in the cot for less than a week). But, come 7pm when we put him in he is out like a light and the same as M if he wakes in the middle of the night he settles fine. Occasoinally he will do a big sleep in it during the day but pretty rare. I have just given up and put him in his swing.

I'm supposed to be resting and relaxing etc in order to recover but I don't know how. DH has been good and all, but still going about his usual day-to-day stuff and I've had to ask him for help with housework, bub etc as he just doesn't see that I can't do much myself. Hating the patch, it makes it so much harder to do things with only one eye. Kudos to women who are completely blind and looking after bubs.

:hugs:am thinking of you sweety and hoping it gets better soon.

Z doesn't laugh or squeal yet...babbles lots and talks and blows raspberries.... I guess he'll do it when he's ready. But he makes this funny noise when he knows boobies are coming...cracks me up! like he huffs and puffs cos he's so excited.
morning. other nights he resettles and is fine.

Z was the best baby on the plane to melbourne and back. THe man i sat next to even told me, Z was the best behaved baby he'd ever sat next to lol, I was so proud he's such a happy boy and pretty relaxed, i just want to squish him with kisses all the time!!

ha ha how cute!! O starts headbutting my boobs and if I'm holding him upright he tried to suck on my neck or whatever's closest.

What a good lil boy. It's so lovely when other people comment on how good they are.

AFU - we received our cushie tushies this morning and I am so impressed. The washer and drier are getting a work out today. Can't wait to start using them. We had a great night last night, slept 8pm-4am straight back to bed after a feed and then back up at 8am. Then back down for a nap at 9.30am and just got up then, just under 2 hours. We're doing well.

Yay for your good nights sleep. I saw your pics in facebook of you cushie tushies - they are so cute. It made me start to look into them. Just not so sure how I would cope with the "ick" factor of cleaning them.

And on the next baby thing, we're going to start TTC again soon, we are slightly worried the next one may take a little longer like A did and don't want a big gap but after having bub and I sick for a week DH and I are kinda... hmmm... are we up for another little one yet???

Glad we are not the only ones thinking about number 2 and yes we are all slightly insane :laughing: We will probably wait until April next year to start trying though.

I do feel like I have less time because he is much more active when he is awake and moves everywhere so I have to keep an eye on him but can't complain...only that he is growing up too fast.

I am heading up to Byron and Brisbane on Sat to see my sister and do some wedding stuff so will be out of action for a week but hope you are all well and will catch you all when I am back.

What a happy lil boy you have! They are growing way too fast for my liking. Have a great time in Byron and Brisbane.

AFU - I moved O to his cot on Saturday after 2 restless nights in his cradle. I think my little tank just got too big for it :laughing:. He seems to be doing pretty good in his cot :fingerscrossed: crossed it will continue that way. DH pretty much sleeps through his awakenings but said he knew it must have been bad when I got up Saturday morning and declared that it was time for him to go to his own room. I just adored having him in his cradle right next to me each night but he was running out of room cos he likes to kick about and it was keeping both of us awake. I still haven't quite adjusted to him not being there.

Had a child free date with DH last night for our 2nd wedding anniversary and he event bought me flowers so was feeling lovely. Although the heat had made O hot and bothered so I took him to mums instead of her coming here as she has air con and he bawled when we were getting ready to leave. Gave him some "comfort boob" and he calmed down (no wonder he is a lil tank :laughing:) but I did briefly think my dinner was going to be cancelled. He's normally so good and always gives mum his big gummy smiles so think he must have just been overheated.

Anyway, better go check out all my other online addictions before I feed the lil tank.

Hope everyone is well and Nic am sending you "get better" vibes!

xo

Lukie

05-11-2009, 08:32

Just a quick post from me- hello everyone!

Sandy- I'm really sorry to hear you're having such a tought time and I hope your hospy stay brings on speedy recovery for you.

Nic- how's things for you? Sending you big hugs and get well wishes.

soexcited- our bubs are the same age- and I also moved B to her own room last Wednesday- hated doing it but like O she was getting too big for her cradle, everytime she moved the cradle shook. Well I'm glad to hear O has taken to it, it gives me a lil hope, B is being just shocking, day and night. Makes me wonder if there's something else going on..... She is still rather snuffly, going to docs for her needles tomorrow so will get her checked out...

I just had enough yesterday... put her to bed at 6pm instead of at 7. DH is home sick with the flu, so I had a litle cry to him, but he wasn't able to help, don't want to spread his germs on to her. She was just being so whingey and clingy, couldn't put her down anywhere. I just wanted to have a cup of tea and some dinner, was starving. She is back to one sleep cycle and then fussing and not able to re-settle. Even if I do pat her back to sleep, she wakes 5-10mins later. What's the point:hair:? I thought if I do her whole bath and bed routine one hour earlier she will at least go to bed, but no. She was inconsolable, even when I picked her up out of the cot. Wah wah wah. I held her for a while and she did a burp, so I thought that was it, but she just kept crying like the sky was falling. Well I took out the boob and she ate and fell asleep. Slept for less than two hours and woke again. She's been in bed with me the past few nights as I am just spent by the end of the day, don't have the patience to settle her in her bed after a feed. And if she drops the dummy I have to get out of bed and go to her room now, rather than just reach over. She seems to be waking and feeding every 2-2.5 hrs. Anyway, it just feels like its getting harder instead of easier and I am going bonkers. :dizzy:

elleandsam

05-11-2009, 13:54

Sassy - so glad things are going so well for you :)

soexcited - sounds like a nice night. Happy anniversary! Good luck with the move to the cot. E has been in a cot for quite some time as she was just too wriggly for her bassinet even when wrapped.

Lukie - :hugs: we co-sleep sometimes as well when it's all just too much. Hopefully it's just a growth spurt and things calm down again for you soon.

AFU - well I got a call this morning asking if we wanted to go in early to Tresillian, I said yes, when? And she said.... tomorrow :eek: so we're off tomorrow at 11am. But DH is working so we have to take the train. I'm going to put E in her front pouch and take a bag with wheels :) So even if she has a terrible day/night today it doesn't really matter as we'll have help tomorrow! Yay!

I must admit I am a little sad though because it means 4 and a half days in sposies :( just after getting a reasonably sized stash going. E was in a cushie tushie couture last night and didn't wet through! Yay!

Well she's sleeping 8-8.30pm to 4am, this morning she really didn't settle after her 4am feed which was a disappointment, but better than nothing. Hopefully on Monday night DH and I might go for a date, we're thinking of going to see Saw VI and it would be nice to do something together, without our little bundle of joy lol

sandy119120

05-11-2009, 22:54

lukie - :hugs: mmm sorry you had such bad day ..hopefully it was only one of those days and she will go back to re-settle....i do co-sleep with miss m after her feed at night just as you said "im too tire" but i havent been able to do it here NOT ALLOW :(. they told me wrapped her and then tag her in her cot and rock her with her cot no hands hope that helps well they told me to do it like that M is sleeping.

Elleandmum= hope you have a nice date with husband:yelclap:

AFU - still here i will be on weeekend leave to say goodbye to mum...i hope we get that ticket change. Miss m is not co-sleeping anymore :( but is best for her and us. I have learnt sooo much in here and feeling much better thank hyou for you support and kind words.

a hello to everyone :wave:

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

06-11-2009, 16:40

Hey girls! :wave:
Thanks for all the love, feeling much better and more positive today and I think my face is even looking a little bit better. Can now get around the house without the eyepatch (though still need it if it's bright outside or in airconditioning).
Went to see a naturopath yesterday and she was fantastic! She looked at some of my blood under a microscope and put it up on the screen for me to see and my lymphoctyes (white blood cells) were all immature and had these big nuclei things that aren't normally in them. She said it was very obvious from my blood that my immune system had been working very hard to try to fight off an atypical virus. She suggested possibly EBV (the virus that causes glandular fever) and when I came home and googled the lymphocyte formations that is exactly what google told me. I've never had glanduar fever to my knowledge so its all a little strange. It can definitely cause Bell's though if it attacks the nerve.
Sorry just thought that was interesting and wanted to share. She also said I am very zinc deficient and has put me on lots of supplements including something interesting that has 5 types of mushroom in it. :laughing: All safe for BFing though and feeling a lot less drained today so hopefully it continues!

And the best news is I can BF again! Called the breastfeeding and med line (should have done it last week) and the woman said she would have advised to not stop BFing in the first place as they only advise it in long term prednisone use etc.. but the doc and pharamacist both told me not to? Anyway, now just need to build up a supply. Have never had a supply issue before but after a week of only expressing every 6-8 hrs I'm fairly dry! Might look into some lactation cookies tomorrow. Put bub on this morning no probs but this afternoon she wasn't getting much and let it known! So will keep persisting and giving her a bit of bottle too.

Anyway, enough about me...:ecomcity:

Elleandmum- the MCNs sound great. Had no idea you could layby them, so might look into it. Which site did you use for that? Good luck at Tresillian tomorrow!

Sandy- Have followed you on FB honey, hope that your mum can have her flight changed! Have you appealed to the airline on some kind of special circumstance grounds or something? :hugs:

Deking- You never fail to make me smile. Even a wonky one at that! Yeah it was the prednisone, even if they had of told me I could though I probably wouldn't have. I was started on 25mg tds for 3days, then 25mg bd then daily, then to cease. But was supposed to cease today and took 12.5mg instead and will tomorrow. Have had horrible dizziness/flushes/itchiness and yuckiness when the doses have been decreased so going to wean myself a little slower instead. And no I DONT watch America's Next Top model but the thought of it made me laugh! :laughing:
No idea about the night waking. If you find the cure, let me know! Sorry your DH is also not helping much. Men!!

Kimmi- Yay for day sleeps in the cot! We're the same with A and I've now packed the bassinette away. It's nice to actually have space beside my side of the bed!
I've thought of you often the last week with your MS and I think you are amazing to be such a strong, brave woman. My condition is most likely temporary and it's really knocked me so I think for what you must go through every day you are wonderful. :hugs: Hope that made sense...

Sammi- Ooh, how exciting, i look fwd to a little announcement soon! I wonder if you'll be the first TTCer here?

Sassy- Sounds like A is doing wonderfully!! Sounds just like my girl A with the constant happiness, but not so much with the sleeping!! Hope you have a great time at Byron bay this weekend!! Jealous!!!

Soexcited- Thanks for the vibes, they are working!! Congrats on your wedding anniversary! I must organise a date for DH and I too as we've not had one since A was born. Sounds like lots of our bubs are moving into big cots now!

Lukie- Big hugs honey. I must admit we've pretty much given up on a bedtime routine now as it wasn't making much difference either! Will get back into it at some stage but still thrown from daylight savings I think! I also pop A in our bed usually by 5am...she will fuss about and wake every 2 or so hours on her own but if she's with me in bed she will sleep for up to 4 hrs at a time. So I completely understand your frustration!

Well that's all from me, i'm going to have a look at what to cook for dinner.
xxx

oscarjessie

06-11-2009, 21:19

HI Everyone,

I have been reading...but too busy to post.

Nic...I have been following your updates on facebook and am so happy you are feeling better. I am 100% sure your supply will get better. Enjoy those cookies! My supply went really crap when I had a gastro bug and it came back after a few days...the let downs were so painful though!

Lukie - I could have written your post! O has gone from this delightful baby who rarely cries to a cranky baby who cries and cries and cries and has even been screaming. He won't go down to sleep during the day without a fight and I have had to put him in the baby bjorn and walk around to get him to sleep, but he cries the minute I sit down or stop moving! At night he is pretty much the same...but has had 2 wake ups rather then the one over the 11/12 hours he is asleep. It was doing my head in and I have been really cranky too as a result. I ended up taking him to the Doctor as he had come out in this rash all over his torso and neck - turns out it is a heat rash. The Doctor suggested as we had him out of routine (DF away last week and we were up in Nth Qld this week) he might be making it known he is not happy Jan. Have you done anything different Lukie? The Doc did say that sometimes they just have off weeks.

So excited - O has been out of his bassinet for ages now as he kept hitting his hands on the side...but he is still in our room. We have to pull the cot apart to get it out...and have been too busy. He does not wake up DF anymore with his little noises and does not cry at night as I hear him (and my boobs tell me he needs to be fed!) before he gets too works up.

I so cannot go any further - I am exhausted! As I said before we have been up in Nth Queensland for the week - a few days in Airlie Beach and a few in Mackay for DFs work. He goes up there every 5 weeks and I went with him this time - the first and last! O was so cranky the whole week it drove me bonkers. I thought we would get kicked out of the hotel in Mackay because O was crying all the time! The Dr did a very thorough check of him and nothing wrong - just out of routine I guess. And oh my god I missed the bouncer! He cried for about 10 minutes on both flights - he would not even feed on the descent this afternoon and I was so worried about his ears - but he seems fine. We are just so tired from O being so cranky...we showered him tonight and he seems back to normal and went down really easily - so fingers crossed now we are home and he is back in familiar surroundings we will be back to normal!

Anyway must go to bed - I am shattered!

elleandsam

06-11-2009, 21:46

Nic - I put a layby through a cushie tushies consultant but you can do it through their website. Good news on the bfing :)

Oscar - enjoy your trip to sunny QLD.

AFU - it's official! As of January we will be actively TTCing! Yay! Can't wait. Fingers crossed for a boy.

Tresillian is going well so far, she's already eating more. Gotta run, very sleepy. :wave:

Lukie

07-11-2009, 08:17

Oj and Nic-

Glad I'm not the only one. Anyone else with cranky clingy babies?

It's like, she was happy and relatively easy going and now she just can't handle being put down/being on her own.

To answer your question OJ- yes we have done a few things differently since this started last Monday. First she had a bit of a cold last monday. Last Monday I also stoped giving top-ups of EBM at Bath and 1st feed of night. She wasn't sleeping for longer stretches at night so I figured whats the point. Plus ABA said that it can be misleading when feeding with bottle as they have to guzzle it down or else drown, so she's not necessarily wanting more milk. On Wednesday night I moved her out of her cradle into her big cot in her room (but she started fussing at night and during day already). Thing is, she was only getting top-ups for 2weeks. And it's been almost 2weeks without top-ups... shouldn't she be over it by now?

Well, I don't mind sleping with her in our bed except I miss cuddling up to DH and it is a bit squishy in our double bed. I'm with B all day and get to see DH for an hour or so a day as I go to bed so early, so I'm getting an overload of B to be with her day and night. If she could at least do good naps during the day. Or be a little happier. :crying: I'm just having a big talking-to-myself vent and cry now... please forgive.

I also had the DR check her out yesterday, chest is clear, ears are fine. She also said that they can become unsettled and clingy after an illness.

I am hoping we can get her to sleep in her bed for half the night at least. Am going to try and get DH to settle her after her first feed tonight as I am usually so out of it that I just take her into bed, I can't sit up and settle and resettle over and over.

oscarjessie

07-11-2009, 20:22

Lukie, hopefully she should start to chill out soon. It is tough though! O is back to normal today thank god and even slept from 7pm to 2.45aam, then 6am and then slept until about 7.30am last night so I am over the moon he is back to normal...although he is only having 1 sleep cycle at the moment during the day...so just get him down and relax and then wah wah wah! ha ha.

I do not know how you can sleep with a baby in your bed...I tried the last few nights when we were away as the hotel did not have a cot and there was no other bed to put him on. He kicked me and punched me and groaned all night and I hardly slept a wink! And he is a bed hog! He sleeps with his arms stretched out and I swear takes up more room then I do.

Anyway had better run....one of our friends is in a bit of a state as he is running out of money and has n job so he is going to stay here for a few days. Not that we are rollng in it either!

elleandsam

08-11-2009, 07:22

Lukie - I hope things sort out for you soon.

OJ - good to hear that he is back to normal.

AFU - Tresillian is going okay. Last night she was moved into another room without me being told so I got a scare this morning. She's still not feeding too well :gloomy: and they're trying her on thickened feeds, which we got complete refusal from after two weeks last time. I don't know what will happen with that, as we have two tins of Karicare Gold at home and can't afford any more formula until Thursday. I must admit after the rollercoaster of formulas i'm unwilling to change now.

SammiAnn

08-11-2009, 08:14

Morning girls,

A loves rhymes and singing and just smiles his way through every song we sing. I have also put a mirror on the wall next to his play mat and he is amused no end with his own reflection.

Even BF is super fast these days...he finishes in 10 mins. I do worry about my supply sometimes because he is continually gnawing on his hand and putting objects in his mouth & sucking at every opportunity (including my Dad's nose and my osteo's chin!!!). He seems happy after a feed though so not too worried.

Nawwwww, he sounds adorable! A loves seeing himself in the mirror too. We play 'Spot the Cute Butt' in the bathroom mirror before bathtime (and it isn't my butt we're spotting, though I do wish the dimples on mine were considered as cute as his :laughing:!).

All of my bubs have moved to super fast BFs after a few months, they get so good at stimulating the let down and much stronger in the jaw so get it much faster these days. A is sucking everything too anything that he can bring to his mouth, he will!

Enjoy your trip.

Glad we are not the only ones thinking about number 2 and yes we are all slightly insane We will probably wait until April next year to start trying though.

Another sucker for punishment! We'll have to start our own little testing thread!!! I love your description of your 'little tank', he sounds sooo cute. Congratulations on your anniversary hun, glad you had a nice dinner.

I just had enough yesterday...

Many :hugs: your way. We all have lots of days like this, while I can't tell you when and how (wish I could) I'll always offer hugs and an ear if you wanna have a vent. I think you are doing a great job.

Hey girls!
Thanks for all the love, feeling much better and more positive today and I think my face is even looking a little bit better. Can now get around the house without the eyepatch (though still need it if it's bright outside or in airconditioning).

Sammi- Ooh, how exciting, i look fwd to a little announcement soon! I wonder if you'll be the first TTCer here?

:smiliedance: I'm so happy to hear you're starting to feel better hun, def give those lactation biscuits a go. They work for me and I made them for a skeptical friend, she is no longer skeptical!!! And thanks for the excitement, I have to admit we're getting a little, um, nervous about TTC again, enjoying A so much I don't wanna feel like we're rushing him, if that makes sense??? And I do believe we'll have company with TTC, elleandmum! Will be nice to share a new journey with some familar faces.

HI Everyone,

I have been reading...but too busy to post.

I hope O is back to normal now. How hard for you :hugs:. Have you caught up on your rest yet? I hope your friend gets back on his feet soon.

AFU - it's official! As of January we will be actively TTCing! Yay! Can't wait. Fingers crossed for a boy.

:yelclap: best of luck with your bubba blue! It would be great to have a familar 'face' around in the TTC area. I hope they don't give you another scare like that. And best of luck with the formula situation, that would be very frustrating considering the $$$$. Sending lots of sleepy vibes for the rest of your stay.

AFU: I was hoping to have more time here but someone who shall remain nameless.... has decided I am required for playtime. I'll be back later with some questions for you girls. Have a great Sunday morning, I hope you've all had lovely sleep-ins.

Sam :sunshine:

soexcited

08-11-2009, 14:58

Hi Ladies

Sammi - hope you had a lovely playtime with your little nameless, I love how we make plans of how our morning/day is going to go and then they get completely changed by a little someone with their own agenda. My lil tank started getting affectionately named that after his weight gains - at his last weigh in he had done 950g in 3 weeks!! I am taking him for needles on Thursday and he hasn't had a weigh in since his last but given the size of him I think it's gonna be another huge one. I remember the midwives in hopsital saying that you can't overfeed breastfed babies and I think maybe she should check out O's thighs before she says that again :laughing: He is gorgeous though and I wouldn't have it any other way.

elleandmum - :hugs: - hope her feeding gets sorted out sweety.

OJ - you are a lovely friend taking in someone in need when you have a bub and I am sure plenty on your plate. Hope he appreciates it.

Lukie - O is cranky and clingy when he has been teething or during the really hot weather. He is also a terrible sleeper during the day but then goes against the "rules" and sleeps well at night. We try and stick to a fairly standard night time routine. I feed him from one side, DH bathes him and then I feed him from the other side and then it is off to bed. This is usually between 6pm and 7:30pm depending on how our day has gone. I then get him up in between 10:30pm and 11pm for a dreamfeed and then he goes back down within 1/2 hour and will usually go until 6 sometimes longer. Having said that. I had to let him develop this by himself - i.e. it happened one night and he slpt through so I just kept going. On occasion he wakes up in the middle of the night - often just for his dummy but the last 2 nights he hasn't. Maybe he understood me when I threatened to take it off him all together if he kept waking for it ha ha. It's hard because what works for one person may not work for another. A friend of mine has a baby that is 5 weeks younger than O (and your B as they are the same age) and he has been sleeping from about 8pm to 6:30am since he was 4 weeks old.

Nic - yay for the return to b/f. You are such a super mum for sticking with the expressing to keep your supply up so that you could keep up the b/f. Especially since you were feeling so crappy. I am in awe of you!

Howdy to everyone else.

AFU - nothing too much else to report. I think I covered a lot up in everyone's personals. DH has gone out to see a friend and has taken O with him cos he just loves to show him off (and I think pretend that he is superdad who does everything!) and I am not even doing anything exciting - have been doing clothes washing, got dinner ready and in the slow cooker and now bludging on the internet. Shall have to treat myself to something exciting next time.

Hope everyone is enjoyong their weekends.

staceylee

08-11-2009, 18:26

Hi girls! Been MIA this last week as my mum came to stay with us. Was FANTASTIC!! We missed her so much. We have booked our tickets to tassie for x-mas, cant wait to go back there!

Will try and catch up with personals later but since H is being a clingy bub dont like my chances much :)

H is doing really well on her new formula. No more blood in her poos which is fantastic and she has started to finish the bottle off again. Um she really starting to grab at things and shove them in her mouth which is kinda cute. We got her some teething rings to help with that but we dont think she is teething, just exploring her environment.

H is still sleeping through the night and work/childcare is going well. My mum had her last week while I worked and it went well :)

Hope everyone is well. Take care ladies :hugs:

soexcited

09-11-2009, 09:36

Hi Ladies

Just had to come on and share my excitement. Last night O slept from 7:30pm to 4:15am :smiliedance: We gave him his first try of the tiniest bit of rice cereal mixed with breast milk last night - I know heaps of people/authorities are against it before 6 months but we spent hours and hours researching it and the signs of when they are ready etc. He is 4 months this weekend, probably 8 kg (was 7.05 at his last weigh in nearly 4 weeks ago) and has been obsessed with watching people eat and has even opened his mouth when sitting on my lap when I brought food to my mouth. We decided that he was ready so I bought the organic stuff (bellamys - am thinking I will try this formula also when I start him on formula for his day feed). We had already been thinking for the past few nights before we tried the rice cereal that we would try and skip his nightly dreamfeed and see how long before he woke up so last night I decided we would just experiment everything. He was so excited by the food and instantly opened his mouth when DH starting bringing the spoon to it and kept opening his mouth for more. Didn't give him much - maybe 1 tablespoon or a bit less and then gave him (.)(.) and put him to bed as usual.

Am going to try again tonight but try and manipulate his last feed to be about 8/8:30 and see how he goes. Although I was asleep last night by 10:30 so the 4:15 feed wasn't bad and he went straight back to sleep afterwards so I went back to bed.

Stacey - glad H is doing well and you had a lovely time with your mum.

SammiAnn

09-11-2009, 10:35

Morning girls,

Sammi - hope you had a lovely playtime with your little nameless,

The nameless one and I had a great time thanks! I love your talk of those thighs, I love chubba bubbas :bee:. Woohoo for the sleep that was had at your house last night!!!! Solids was the very topic I wanted to come back and talk about but, um, yeh... time got away from me!!! Keep up the great work!

Hi girls! Been MIA this last week as my mum came to stay with us. Was FANTASTIC!! We missed her so much. We have booked our tickets to tassie for x-mas, cant wait to go back there!

Hey! Sounds like you've been having a great time. So glad you've found the right formula that works for your darling, must be a huge relief. How are you finding working? I miss it some days (I haven't worked since DD1 was born though), doesn't help when the aide in my daughters class keeps asking if I want my name put on the relief register :rolleyes:.

Big :wave: to everyone.

How are you goind Sandy? Are you feeling the fog lifting yet? Take care hun.

What's the latest from the sleep school elleandmum? I hope you're getting some answers and a good routine.

AFU: As I posted yesterday (and attempted to this morning but I pressed the wrong button :hair:) I wanted to ask you girls about solids.

With DD1 the guideline was four months and she started then, though she had been having a supp bottle at night with a scoop of farex in it. She enjoyed her food from the first mouthful.

With DD2 the guidelines had changed to six months. She showed no interested whatsoever in food and refused solids until about seven months.

Master A has been following us eating for a few weeks now and his night routine has started to changed with him waking more often after midnight. My instinct and head is saying start him on solids but my heart is screaming "NOOOOO!!!!". I even bought the farex last week but have been flip-fopping about giving him it. He's loving chewing everything and I'm sure he'd love the rusks etc.

Anyway, I'm hoping you girls can give me the push I need, should I start him???

Thanks for reading my dithering girls :hugs:.

Hope you and your darlings have a great day.

Sam :sunshine:

soexcited

09-11-2009, 11:12

Sam - I had so much trouble deciding to take the plunge. As I said above a lot of the threads on here and various authorities etc don't recommend before 6 months and mum and MIL were like we gave you kids it at 2/3 months. DH has been wanting to give to him since he was 3 months but I kept saying the books say not yet etc etc. The other day mum said to me "what do you think?" and I said I think he is ready and he wants it. I could just tell he was looking for something more. Then mum said, well you're his mum the books don't see him and feed him every day. If you know he is ready then he is ready. So we decided (based on most of my earlier post) that we would give it a try and if he didn't want it then we would leave it for now and try again in a month. But as suspected he wanted it. As I said it was such a little amount but he knew that spoon meant food and kept opening his mouth for more.

Good luck with deciding!!

kotakai

09-11-2009, 11:19

Big big :hugs: for those of you that need it.

Just had to come on and share my excitement. Last night O slept from 7:30pm to 4:15am

Woohoo for the great sleep :smiliedance:

In regards to the solids, my paed was telling me the other month that they're now recommending starting at 4 mths. Cruz is coming up to 6 mths actual (but will be 4mths corrected tomorrow) & we're thinking of starting him soon.

Good luck for those of you thinking about TTC. I would love to join you, but DP doesn't want any more :(

AFU- Things are good. Cruz is a little fatty! At his paed visit last week (5 & a bit months) he now weighs 7.5kgs & is 66cms long. He is sooooo close to rolling from his back to his belly. He gets right up on his side & almost over, but just can't figure out what to do with his arm. He's a big wriggler though & can really move around the mat just by squirming on his back.

He gets sick of just laying there though & has a bad flat head, so we got him a bumbo the other day & he loves it!

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk174/kotakai_chais/bumbo.jpg

I wanted to start him at swimming lessons this term, but the day they were taking new applications, my DD was in hospital. So by the time I could get there 3 days later, of course there were no spots left. So we decided that on a Sunday after Chais's lesson, DP will just take him in the water & get him used to it. This was the other week where he went in for the 1st time. He loved it & kept kicking his legs :laughing:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk174/kotakai_chais/cruz1stswim.jpg

Hope you all have a great week.

babycart

09-11-2009, 12:24

Hi Everyone,

Hope you all had great weekends and that the clingy little bubs are chilling out a bit. A few personals to start:

Elle - great news on TTC next year, glad you DH came around to the idea

Sandy - hope things are on the up

H is doing really well on her new formula. No more blood in her poos which is fantastic and she has started to finish the bottle off again.

This is great news!!! you must be so releived everything is getting back to normal

Hi Ladies

Just had to come on and share my excitement. Last night O slept from 7:30pm to 4:15am :smiliedance: We gave him his first try of the tiniest bit of rice cereal mixed with breast milk last night Master A has been following us eating for a few weeks now and his night routine has started to changed with him waking more often after midnight. My instinct and head is saying start him on solids but my heart is screaming "NOOOOO!!!!". I even bought the farex last week but have been flip-fopping about giving him it. He's loving chewing everything and I'm sure he'd love the rusks etc.

Anyway, I'm hoping you girls can give me the push I need, should I start him???

Yay for the big sleep!!!! Miss S did the same last night - last feed about 7pm and didn't wake up until 6.30am this morning......my poor (.)(.).....i couldn't even hold S to my chest to walk around, so I had to feed her in bed instead of going to the lounge room to watch Today!

I think you should try O on some rice cereal - worst that will happen is that he won't take it and then you can try again in a couple of weeks

... MIL were like we gave you kids it at 2/3 months. DH has been wanting to give to him since he was 3 months but I kept saying the books say not yet etc etc.

I was talking to a friend in the USA over the weekend who has a 5 week old boy. She is planning on starting him on rice cereal somewhere between 8-10weeks. I couldn't beleive she was going to start him so early. I said the advice here was to wait to 4months min and preferably 6 months and she thought that sounded like a really long time. She said they started them that early because they only get 12 weeks off work and for the babies to be starting solids by the time mum goes back to work!

AFU- Things are good. Cruz is a little fatty! At his paed visit last week (5 & a bit months) he now weighs 7.5kgs & is 66cms long. He is sooooo close to rolling from his back to his belly. He gets right up on his side & almost over, but just can't figure out what to do with his arm. He's a big wriggler though & can really move around the mat just by squirming on his back.

I wanted to start him at swimming lessons this term, but the day they were taking new applications, my DD was in hospital. So by the time I could get there 3 days later, of course there were no spots left. So we decided that on a Sunday after Chais's lesson, DP will just take him in the water & get him used to it. This was the other week where he went in for the 1st time. He loved it & kept kicking his legs :laughing:

Hi Kotakai - yay for C being a little fatty!!!! and for nearly rolling over :) Miss S rolled over one time (when I wasn't looking) and hasn't done it since :no:

Looks like he loved his daddy swimming lesson! I think S will like to go too - she loves kicking around in the bath, it makes her laugh - so I think i will look into it in the new year.

BTW - love the pics!

Lukie - I was just reading back a bit and .... all this talk about solids and fussy/clingy/waking bubs....do you think B is just hungry and maybe ready to try some solids??? (sorry if you have already started her....was just a thought)

Nic - how are things?

AFU - no major news to report.

I tried S on some rice cereal this morning, just to see what she would do with it. She gave me the funniest looks as i was trying to feed her with a spoon, she was like, " WTF????" :laughing: she swallowed some of it, but i think most of ended up being pushed back out. I think i might keep trying just a little bit each morning and see how she goes

So i have seen a couple of July mums talking about TTC and I know of one July mum who is already 5weeks preg with #2 and DH is keen to get started as soon as I say the word.....but i haven't even had AF return yet. So my question is:

Has your AF returned and when?

take care everyone and talk soon

AC

SammiAnn

09-11-2009, 12:51

Hello again,

Sam - I had so much trouble deciding to take the plunge.

Thanks for your help hun, I know what I should be doing, it's just the emotional thing ATM I think (a lovely BH friend helped me say that aloud :kiss:, thank you). I will begin expressing a little today to start him tomorrow. Many thanks :hugs:.

In regards to the solids, my paed was telling me the other month that they're now recommending starting at 4 mths. Cruz is coming up to 6 mths actual (but will be 4mths corrected tomorrow) & we're thinking of starting him soon.

Good luck for those of you thinking about TTC. I would love to join you, but DP doesn't want any more

That's the thing I guess, they are guidelines and it's up to us to see where they are at as an individual. Good luck with Cruz, I hope he enjoys his! And lots of :hugs: for you wanting more bubbas. I was hoping after four my cluckiness would stop 'cos four is our LIMIT but you have me worried now! The original plan was three but we always said if there was a longer gap than planned we'd consider another, and that's just what happened! DH is keen to start soon in case next bub takes it's time like Master A did. I hope your feelings settle soon hun.

And I know why you're still clucky, you make such GORGEOUS children!!! Cruz is so handsome :bee:.

Has your AF returned and when?

Hi hun, kinda exciting know one of us has fallen again (I feel for the poor love though :(, I hope you're feeling better soon RRC). My AF returned at four months. After DD1 it was three months, DD2 five months. And all of them have been fully BF until past those times so I can't blame solids or sleeping for them dropping feeds or anything!

Good luck.

Sam :sunshine:

oscarjessie

09-11-2009, 13:07

Hi Girls -

re the solids debate we are starting on rice cereal tonight! O seems to want more and is reaching for food, has good neck and head control and seems interested in food. I tested using a spoon to feed him some milk the other day and he took the spoon really well and was very interested in "eating" even though it was just milk.

He is 3.5 months - but is a big boy and corrected age would be 4 months because he is late.

The nurse who gave him his injections at 8 weeks suggested giving him rice cereal then as he is strong enough.

So tonight is the night.....I am a bit sad because I feel like he is growing up too fast but I know he needs a little bit more.

In the end I think it up the individual...and for the comment about the mum saying you know your baby best - I totally agree.

Square777

09-11-2009, 21:56

OMG I'm so nosy... I want to know who is preggas again already!!!

:) :)

Hubby and i have only had sex once ( a failed attempt mind you) since Z born... not for his lack of want but mine mostly! hehe

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

10-11-2009, 09:23

OMG I'm so nosy... I want to know who is preggas again already!!!

:laughing: I want to know too!! It's funny looking through my old 'Due in Dec 08' group (when Ethan was due) as almost all of them are UTD again. I wonder who will be from here this time next year?

Crazy to think our bubs are growing up so quick and there are solid-eating july bubs now! We have discussed it briefly but I really want to keep exclusively BFing till close to 6mths so will try to do that. I started Jake at 4ish months as he was FF and apparently it's recommended to start FF bubs earlier than BF bubs? Will see how we go and if I think she needs it earlier will start earlier, but aiming for around 6 months.

Babycart- no AF here yet either. I wouldn't be surprised if she does show though because the week I was on steroids I wasn't expressing as much as i should have been. How exciting that you'll also be TTC soon! I would love to be able to, but at the moment we are still discussing the possibility of another bub 'somewhere down the track'. Probably good though as I don't know if the Bell's would come back in pregnancy or not. Not that it's gone yet, but I'm getting there.

OJ- Hope the rice cereal went well!

Kotakai- What gorgeous pics!! I am looking into a bumbo too, really want to get one but don't know whether she would use it for long (she's already 7.5kg and I think they only go to 10kg?)? Where did you buy yours from? The other thing I have seen mentioned that is similar is a Bebe Pod. Has anyone got one of these?

AFU- Back to BFing which is fantastic. Took me the weekend to get my supply back up as it was virtually nothing and she would go on and cry lots on Fri cause I had almost no letdown. But with the help of some lactation cookies, maxalon and lots of suckling we are back in business. She's been a little jellybean the last 24hrs though and had almost no day-naps yesterday, wouldn't settle last night and now won't have her morning nap! :hair: I have decided to stop wrapping her (we stopped a while back and then started again) as yesterday she flung the wrap right over her face and when I went in she was fighting with it to get it off. Scared me too much to do it again, but then she doesn't settle well without it...
To help with my milk supply I've been taking her to bed with me of a night and letting her just feed/suck as she pleases all night, but now she is too used to it I think and doesn't want to sleep in her cot! I just wish she were more settled. She doesn't cry a lot or anything, just fusses!

elleandsam

10-11-2009, 10:31

I'm three days late on my period, we were going to wait until Jan to try again, but I think the wait may be over lol.

We're home from Tresillian and E is a star pupil. They're miracle workers. She's sleeping, eating, and growing. 160gms in a week! She just had a full bottle and then went to bed with NO tears! I'm so happy.

Will write more and personals soon, I have to get some washing done.

soexcited

10-11-2009, 11:07

Elleandmum - yay for your successful Tressillian stay. You will have to keep us updated on your potential other news!

Kokatai - a little off topic but from the toher thread - do you still use the Woombie? O likes to be wrapped also and I am scared of not wrapping him in case it means sleepless nights but I know I will have to stop eventually. A mum at the doctors surgery was telling me about them and she loves them as well (it's funny how once you have kids you just start bonding with random people who also have kids!)

Nic :smiliedance:for the (.)(.) being back on track super mum!

Nic/Deking - the person posted on a thread on bub hub that they were pregant again so I am presuming it isn't a secret. There is a hint among the latest posts tho.

Deking - it's been pretty uneventful in my house also. I am still feeling very frumpy and not sexy and I think DH ate with me during the pregnancy so he is feeling a bit frumpy as well (I never thought men would feel that way). We are still very lovey dovey and always saying I love you and kissing but just not DTD anywhere as much as we used to.

O had the rice cereal again last night (edit from my above post he has a teaspoon with EBM not a tablespoon - I saw the tablesppon last night and thought no, that's heaps!) and had a bit more this time. Slept from 8:15pm to 5:45pm with one brief wake up for his dummy so :fingerscrossed: crossed we have found a new pattern. Although just heard that it is supposed to be 35 degrees in Sydney tomorrow and he is not at all a fan of the heat :no: so I am presuimg will not be a fun day.

soexcited

10-11-2009, 11:22

Sammiann - here's a link to a pic of my munchkin's "thunder thighs" :laughing:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3039259

kotakai

10-11-2009, 11:30

Kotakai- What gorgeous pics!! I am looking into a bumbo too, really want to get one but don't know whether she would use it for long (she's already 7.5kg and I think they only go to 10kg?)? Where did you buy yours from? The other thing I have seen mentioned that is similar is a Bebe Pod. Has anyone got one of these?

Cruz is 7.5 kgs at the moment & still has plenty of room. I haven't weighed Chais for a while, (but surely he's got to be around 12kgs by now), he's 18mths & can still fit in it too. The main reason for me is my older 2 were sitting alone at 5 mths, but as prems don't have the same core strength (& Chais has the big prem head :laughing:) he didn't sit till 10mths, so I'm thinking Cruz may be similar. I got mine from Toys r us. They have them on special ATM for $55.

Yay for the great feeding :smiliedance:

We're home from Tresillian and E is a star pupil. They're miracle workers. She's sleeping, eating, and growing. 160gms in a week! She just had a full bottle and then went to bed with NO tears! I'm so happy.

Woohoo :smiliedance: That's wonderful.

Kokatai - a little off topic but from the toher thread - do you still use the Woombie? O likes to be wrapped also and I am scared of not wrapping him in case it means sleepless nights but I know I will have to stop eventually. A mum at the doctors surgery was telling me about them and she loves them as well (it's funny how once you have kids you just start bonding with random people who also have kids!)

Yep, Cruz is still in it. He sweats like nothing else, so I have to wash it often, so sometimes during the day he doesn't have it when it's on the line. He sleeps terrible at those times. He def has it everynight though, as I don't want to muck up the 8 odd hours of solid sleep. I think from memory I slowly weaned Chais from around 8 or 9 months. LOL, I find I'm always chatting to people too since I had kids.

I'm in Sydney too. This heat is horrible isn't it! My boys spend the day in a nappy & singlet :)

kotakai

10-11-2009, 11:34

[QUOTE=soexcited;4225732]Sammiann - here's a link to a pic of my munchkin's "thunder thighs" :laughing:

(broken link removed)

I know I'm not Sammi :D, but the link isn't working for me.

staceylee

10-11-2009, 12:17

Hi girls a few quick personals from me while H is sleeping.

Nic - H has a bumbo and is just over 7kgs and like kotakai said H still has heaps of room around the legs. They are fantastic! We looked into the bebe pod ones but they were more $ then the Bumbo so we went with that. Also the bumbo feels nicer and seems softer. We love it and H loves it as she can sit with us while we have tea and can sit up and watch her Uncle play baseball. Also great to hear you are back to feeding A!!

elleandmum - Great to hear things went well with your stay and E's weight gain! Keep us posted on any other news you may have :)

Babycart - AF has returned here :( not a welcome visitor I tell you but now she has DH is talking about TTC again in the new year sometime. Would love to have bubs close together but we will see. It took 2 1/2 months to return once I started to FF H fulltime.

OJ - How did O go with the rice cereal go? Not looking at starting H yet. She watches us eat but doesnt seem real interested atm so will ask the CYH nurse or a doctor about what to do. I have been told that these cereals have a lot of milk based product and not sure if H can have it due to her protein intolerance.

How did the rest of you go that are trying bubs on solids? They CYH nurse said not to start till around 6months so might look into at around 5months.

Dekking - Sorry to hear your MIL is still being a pain. Mine is getting better but she kept going on about how heavy and big H is compered to her newborn cousin and making a big show about how have big she is when she picked her up. Im like she is 7kgs she isnt that big! and E is a newborn of course H is going to be bigger than him! The way she went on about it made me feel like she thinks H is overweight. Oh well I guess I just take things to heart too much.

AFU - H is still sleeping and eating well. She has her next lot of needles next tuesday :( I want DH to take her but dont think he can. We go to tassie in 61/2weeks! Also my cousin is pregnant with her 2nd baby!!! So happy for her as its a struggle to keep her babies once pregnant. Cant wait to meet her little bubba :bee:

Last week while we were at my GP's my pop told me that last week while I was out he put H's dummy in her cousins yogurt and put it in her mouth!! OMG! I just about fell off my chair!! He ment well as she wasant taking her dummy but thats probably coz she didnt want it. I didnt know what to say except oh ok well her new formula is for intolerance to protein in cows milk and dropped the subject. I really hope it doesnt happen again, Im not sure if I want to leave her alone with them again for awhile. Oh well they ment well and I am very grateful for their help but it freaked me out a little.

soexcited

10-11-2009, 12:32

hhmm, not sure why it won't let me see it either. Must be facebook, I went on changed so everyone can see my photos but still can't see it. I am on facebook and details are on our BH page on facebook in the rollcall section. I can't add you for some reason (just don't want to put my name on here as I have a freaky acquaintance who googles people all the time and don't want her finding this site and then reading everything I post!!)

I can't figure out how to out the photo on here like you do them Kokatai - am probably a techno dum for that!!http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/E:%5CMy%20Pictures%5COliver%20-%203%20months

Lukie

10-11-2009, 12:46

HI girls,
I will try to do this really quickly (I hate that that is how I start all of my posts these days! :(). I have just been speed-reading the last few pages, lots of chatter and things to catch up on but I was actually coming on for some advice, but now I want to post some personals.

soexcited- thats amazing. So happy for you! Hope its a trend that continues! I have thought about introducing rice cereal myself but like Nic I am trying to hang on to my baby for as long as possible. One of these days my selfish desire for more sleep will override my slefish desire to be the exclusive source of nourishment for my baby. Having heard how well O has taken to his food, that day might come sooner than otherwise!

nic- we just bought a bumbo on the weekend- got it from toys r us,like kotakai- couldn't pass up the saving). B quite likes it, though she won't stay in any one place for longer than 5-10mins (with the exception of the bouncer only when she is outside- this is the new saving grace of the afternoon unsettled period! I pruned the roses for about 40mins the other day with her happily watching the trees blow in the wind!). Re the wraps, are they big enough for A? I had to get muslin from spotlight and make bigger ones as B was unwrapping herself almost immediately. I tried a few days naps without the wrap (the really hot days so maybe she was just unsettled anyway) but B won't settle. Also have bought a sleep positioner so she doens't thrash around so much and unwrap herself.

elleandmum- would like more info about tresillian please... :D how was it? How is elle now? Will hold off on congrats until the other news is confirmed...

Now I can't remember what else I was going to say...

kotakai- cute pics!

staceylee- sorry about AF. I thought I got mine back at 6wks, but haven't had anything but cramping and slight pinkish CM each month around the time it would've been due.

Needles- B had hers on friday, not good. She screamed and screamed then was so hard to settle in the evening. Woke at 10pm and wouldn't settle after a feed, even in bed with me. OUt came the panadol. Same thing on Saturday night. Last night was ok, but she woke at 9pm :( We are co sleeping after her first wake up, and I had only just gotten into bed. I really wanted some time to stretch out first, but figured it wasn't worth the hassle to re-settle her in her cot myself (DH was having alone time on the PC). She is generally very hard to wind down lately. Shows tired signs then fights sleep like anything- even fights me rocking her in my arms. :confused:

Anyway, some sad sad sad news... my friend Ali who was our support person at B's birth just gave birth at 20wks:gloomy:. So sad and devastating. She has two kids already- the second was born at 26 weeks but survived (just has lots of special needs, eg. CP)- but there was never any reason given for that having happenned so she didn't think she would go into labour prematurely again. We received the news from her DH via txt on Saturday night just after he was born, so we replied. Then I txted Ali on Sunday to say that I would like to visit when she's ready, but understand if they want family time to grieve first. Naturally I didn't get a reply. Today I finally mustered up enough courage to call. They were out and her mum answered. I blubbered through, asking if I should call on her mobile. I really just wanted to say Hello, txts don't seem right. Her mum said I could call back later. I know they are arranging the funeral for immediate family only. I don't know what to do. I didn't want to send flowers cos I actually wanted to visit in person and give her a hug. Is that appropriate? She was one of my closer friends, we just don't see each other often since we moved, and B was born. I don't know what to do...

kotakai

10-11-2009, 12:49

I can't figure out how to out the photo on here like you do them Kokatai - am probably a techno dum for that!!

:laughing: I have no idea why it does it either. I can use the exact same photo from photobucket & in 1 thread it will put the photo & in the other thread it will put the link you need to click on :confused:

kotakai

10-11-2009, 12:54

Lukie- I'm so sorry for your friend :hugs: I'm not sure what you should do. I would maybe send a card & tell her you're there for her & you'd love to visit as soon as she feels ready.

Lukie

10-11-2009, 12:56

Forgot to say, i thunk its time i koined the facebook group... how do I do this?

elleandsam

10-11-2009, 13:05

Staceylee - good news that your little on is still eating and sleeping well, always a good thing when the 'basics' are under control :laughing:

Lukie - that's so sad for your friend, I really feel for her. The loss of a child at any age or gestation is truly devastating.

Okay, AFU re Tresillian - the first day/night the nurses fed and settled her and I just had her for her happy up time, which was wonderful. I think it really helped me and dd reconnect and enjoy each other a bit more. We played games, sung songs, cuddled, and then as soon as the tired signs came she was whisked away. That was until 9pm when she was taken to the nursery and this mum slept until 8am the next morning :smiliedance: and I woke up feeling the best I have in a long time.

Next day they continued feeding while I did the settling with the nurses help. And it was great, we did self settling, which gave her an opportunity to settle on her own, but going in very frequently to reassure her, until the last settle when I would pat her off to sleep. So I went into her 5 times and stayed the until she was asleep after that. She still wasn't eating much but was improving until she cracked it in the afternoon and only had 20mls. They took her again over night and I slept from 9pm until 6am.

Third day, I started feeding her and continued settling with the nurses help. I saw automatically when I fed her a big change in how she fed, she was so happy and relaxed. And above all because she was filling her tummy she was also very sleepy and willing to sleep once she got tired after an hour and a half to two hours up time. I gave her a dream feed at 11.30pm and she slept right through until 6am :smiliedance:

Fourth day I was flying solo but I knew that the nurses were just down the hall and we've taken off from there. She's now having just under 700mls of formula a day, where as before I was struggling to get 200 into her.

She got a little cranky on the fourth night, but that was because DH and I took the opportunity and went out for a 'date' which consisted of hot chips, and watching a movie together while hugging on the couch. It was actually quite nice.

This morning she was a little out of sorts and just wanted to lie there and play in her cot instead of resettling, but I couldn't resettle because she wasn't upset :hair: but I've now restrained her little arms and put her down and she seems to have put herself to sleep with only one pat :yelclap:

The only thing that broke my heart was her voice got a little croaky on the fourth day because we hadn't actually let her settle herself let alone cry before we went there as she had been constantly plugged with the dummy. And the nurses told me that it was very common and nothing to really worry about. I'm so glad we went there, she's a changed baby.

soexcited

10-11-2009, 15:48

ok, take 2 with the pictures link - I think I need to do the whole album

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=119697&id=572812571&l=fcf4c937b5

The Fox

10-11-2009, 16:41

Hi Guys, sorry i havent posted for a while i have been reading along everyday, I have some good news i dont think that Oliver will be admitted to hospital next week anymore which i think is great news, of course this is only an assumption since I had O weighed at the MCHN on Monday and he was up 120grams and now on the 10 percentile whereas 2 weeks ago he was under the 3rd and was loosing weight, of course the bad news is that it seems that it is allergies which are causing his weight issues because at my last pead appointment they made me cut out everything, no dairy, soy, nuts, eggs or wheat but on the plus side i lost 3kgs in the last 2 weeks, i assume this is the reason lol

a few other things i wanted to comment on
Solids:O has been on solids for a few weeks now, his now onto 2 meals a day, rice cereal with EBM 1 Tablespoon (took a while to work up to this ammount) and at the moment we are doing pumkin, about 1tablespoon, they are pushing us to get him on 3 meals a day by the end of the month, i didnt feel O was ready for solids at all and was really reluctant to start him on them but the pead insisted we needed to start but it really has improved his weight, he is well on his way to hitting 6kgs :smiliedance:
TTC good luck to those TTC soon, DP and I are keen to TTC#2 october next year, aiming for another july baby lol, Elleandmum cant wait to hear some news from you, best of luck :goodvibes:
sleeping/wrapping its been a shocking week foor weather here in melb mid 30's :goodvibes:all week today it was 37 were i was :hissy: anyway O would just not sleep more then 10 mins at a time without me holding him and i put it down to the weather then last night it hit me, i hadnt been wrapping him because it was too hot, so i got a muslin wrap and wrapped him and he slept for over an hour derrr i cant believe i didnt realise earlier so looks like O will be wrapped for a little while longer lol
Nic yay for BF agaiin what a loyal daughter you have :), hope the bells clears up completely really soon
Lukie oh that is terrible news about your friend giving birth so early, i agree maybe send a card and let her know that you really want to see her and when she is ready to let you know
staceylee my mum pretends to give O chocolate and stuff all the time and whilst she never actually does it i still get really ****ed off, grrr
o has a milk protein intolerance along with other allergies and im just like grrrrr why dont you get it, glad she is doing well on her new formula

kotakai, you have a gorgeous family, so cute

Hi to everyone else i missed

Also im dying to knowwho is UTD again hehehee what thread was it that they posted this news in lol come out come out whoever you are :detective:

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

10-11-2009, 17:35

Sooooo I finally found the reference and then went searching through the july summary list trying to work out who RRC is! Duh! :doh: Many congrats!!

Very chatty here today!

Elleandmum- How exciting!! Let us know how you go!!

Lukie- Here's the link to the group... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=60726676274 see if that works, if not pm me your name and I'll add you and invite that way. So sorry to hear about your friends bub. That is just awful news. :( I know you want to speak to her in person, but when we lost Ethan I just wanted a lot of space from people to be honest. We still had lots of visits, flowers and calls etc..but often B would just take the calls so I didn't have to. I know she is a good friend of yours so it's understandable that you want to be there, but she might also want some space. She might also feel a bit awkward about B for a while... I know that sounds silly and I don't want to make you feel sad about it, but as you know it can be so painful to see other people's bubs (even those of your dear friends) for a bit after a loss. :hugs:
When Ethan died one of my friends was due to have a bub 6 weeks later, and I did visit her in hospital but didn't hold the baby. I think it would have been far too painful and I didnt want to inflict my sadness on her when she was so happy and enjoying the new bub. Makes me sad though as we really lost contact quite a bit until A was born. Sorry if any of that upsets you, not trying to...but just trying to help.
Having said that though, I would probably still visit but maybe later in the week if you can?

Maybe instead of flowers you can make a donation to a charity like Sids'n'Kids or something on behalf of her little boy? Flowers are nice but they die. I found it really hard to cope when all the flowers we had wilted (and we had a whole tableful) and I had to throw them out. Another good website to check out is the Teddy Love Club. You can donate a teddy bear or money there on behalf of a lost bub. We also had some friends organise a hamper with meals which was wonderful as we were too shell-shocked to do much for weeks. And another friend picked up some groceries on her way to visit which was a lovely thought. The girls from my due in Dec group also sent me a frame with a beautiful poem and a necklace with his name and date of birth on it which was very sweet.
Hope that gives you some ideas, sorry if I came across as intrusive. :o:hugs:

Cass- Go O!! Sounds like he is thriving!

Thanks for the advice on the Bumbo guys, any idea when the special ends? The closest toys'r'us to me is in Canberra which is 3hrs away! But SIL and BIL live there so might get them to pick me up one. $55 sounds like an awesome special!

Lukie

10-11-2009, 18:05

Nic- I am a sticky beak too and went searching the threads to find out :o Thanks for all those tips, sadly I knew you would have some advice- hate that birth and death happen in one occasion, it's just not right. Not at all intrusive, I really wanted to hear what to do, I feel so lost, want to help/support but what to say/what to do :( I have PMed you re FB...

Cassii- yay for O! So i guess he doesn't mind solids?

staceylee

10-11-2009, 19:22

Hey grils

Lukie - So sorry to hear about your friend many :hugs: to you all.

I hope this works. This is a video of Harper trying to eat her bear. She is sitting on my mums lap before we head out to baseball. she wouldnt stop! My mum was just holding the bear so it wouldnt drop on the floor and H decided to try and eat it!

hope it works
http://picasaweb.google.com.au/harper919/Harper1620weeks#5402391189204563090

soexcited

10-11-2009, 19:33

Lukie - so so sorry to hear abut your friend. :hugs: It breaks my heart to hear stories like that.

Cassie - :smiliedance: for Oliver. What a great mum you are.

Stacey - that video is hilarious.

Elleandmum - sounds like things are great at your place!

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

10-11-2009, 21:47

Stacey- How FREAKING CUTE is that video??? :p She is ssssuuucccchhhh a cutie-pie!! I also noticed her little shoes, they are so cute! So jealous as A has the teeniest tiniest feet and I cannot find shoes to fit them anywhere yet! Even the size 1 shoes I have are a good few cm too big! i love baby shoes, so adorable!!

Hoping for a good night here tonight. I took the advice and wrapped her in a cot sheet (folded in half). She still managed to get her arms out though..no matter how I wrap her those arms find their way out. Once I had to put her in her sleeping bag and leave her arms in the middle bit and not in the arm-holes just so she wouldn't pull out her dummy.. :laughing: She went to sleep fairly easy for a change and has been down for 3hrs now so :fingerscrossed: she lasts a while longer. 3hrs is quite good for her!! I'm sure she'll realise soon that she is not snuggled into boobies and wake up for some.

staceylee

11-11-2009, 08:21

Morning just a quick one before we head off to swimming.

Cassiiii - Great work by both you and O at putting that weight on! GO Oliver :smiliedance::smiliedance:

Nic & Soexcited - Thanks girls we think its pretty fuuny. Its like she is sneaking up on it then attacks :laughing: She cracks me up. Nic the shoes she has on are 1/2 size in the dunlop volley's she also has a pink pair that look like big peoples ones. They are both still big on her but they stay on her feet and look cute :D But they sometimes make it look like she has monster feet! SHe is on just fitting into shoes that are 0-3months now. I LOVE baby shoes I have gone a little crazy with them as H has 9 pairs and 3 pairs of slippers :o But they are so cute.

Anyway best be off, we have swimming, then mothers group and then possibly out for tea with some friends and there bubs. Should be fun.

:hugs: to you all and your gorgeous bubs

elleandsam

11-11-2009, 08:43

Nic - I've requested to join the FB group, I'm Amanda Kelly Reimers :) Hope you had a good night.

Lukie - :hugs: for you and your friend. I hope you both feel better soon. Although the pain will never truly go away for her. I really feel for her.

Staceylee - sounds like you're going to have a very busy day :) Hope it's a nice day for you.

AFU - well last night was our first night at home, she went down to sleep after just 30 minutes of settling and was asleep at 7.30pm. I gave her a dream feed at 10.30pm and then she woke up at 3.30am hungry again. Needless to say I was a bit worried about how it would go, as she didn't wake up hungry at Tresillian. But I didn't let her see my nerves and I gave her the bottle and then put her down awake in her cot. She talked to herself for about 15 minutes (I listened to her from my bed in the next room) and then she must have fallen asleep because next thing I knew DH's alarm was going off, and then he was heading off to work. From 3.30am onwards my sleep was very broken, however I did get 5 hours in a row overnight and then bits and pieces afterwards so I feel pretty good.

She had 880mls of formula yesterday! The most she has ever had. Already today she has had 320mls and it's only 10am.

Testing tomorrow, I'll let you know how it goes :)

Lukie

11-11-2009, 09:07

I have just been on FB and now have questions, I hope I ask them of the right people, might get names mixed up :o:

so excited- I notice O is not wrapped. Did you transition or was he never wrapped? Also, how does he get to sleep with his toys? I wonder if I should put a mobile in B's bed?

AFU- a terrible night last night. I actually TOLD DH to go to the couch I felt so bad for what was going on. B woke at 9pm. SO I fed her to sleep and she went back into her cot. I thought I might get some sleep by myself in bed but 10pm, she was up again. Took her in bed and she fussed for ages. Then at 1:30am she wakes crying. I feed her. She goes on crying. Keeps pushing dummy out of her mouth. Won't let me hold her. Wah wah wah :hair: i picked her up and tried to burp her. In the end I thought I'd try her on the toilet, and yes she did have to poo. Well I thought that was that. Back in bed and now she wants to chat. I ignore her so she starts crying again :dizzy:. I finally shushed her to sleep and at 4:30am the whole episode is repeated minus the poo, so there was seemingly no reason for all her fussing and her chatter. Finally got out of bed at 6:30am, am feeling rather desperate and hopeless- if I can't get a good sleep by co-sleeping then what will I do??? Definitely keeping her up today (she only slept about 5hrs during the day yesterday- seems right doesn't it? Don't know why she was so sociable during the night).

oh oh, B awake. BBL

soexcited

11-11-2009, 09:22

Hi Lukie

The pics of O unwrapped are during the day on really hot days. He never sleeps very long during the day so if its hot I don't bother wrapping him. Night time though we still have him wrapped. Having said that I just wrapped him now and put him down as I want to mop the floors and am hoping it will keep him down for a bit longer!! I have taken all his toys and pillow etc out of his cot and the only thing that is permanently there is the mobile (DH ocasionally puts everything in and then takes photos and then takes it all out again - weirdo! :laughing:). He absolutely loves loves loves the mobile. If he wakes in the middle of the night for a feed which he did last night I feed him in his room and then put him back to bed. I put the mobile on and go back to bed and that is it. Sometimes he chats away to himself for a little while. He also has the mobile on when we put him down around 8pm. At night he settles himself so as long as we put the mobile on for him he is pretty good - probably the 8pm one takes a bit longer but I usually just come into the study and then get up and reassure him. We didn't put anything in his cradle either until he was about 2 months old because they told us at classes that it would just distract him but we find the music helps.

Square777

11-11-2009, 11:02

Hi girls...been busy few days in here!!

will try some personals...this will end up being mammoth I'm sure!

Sandy-hope you are going well

Elle- glad E is taking more formula, sounds like you're heading down the right track, and great that the settling has improved too. Keep us posted if any news... I think you're very brave hehe!!

Sammi- good luck on your next TTC... I think you too are very brave lol!! I figure once you have mroe than 3, you already need to bigger car/house etc, so whats another one going to hurt?? lol

Sassy- glad you are enjoying your bubby so much... Hope A went well on the plane and you had nice time away

Soexcited- I too have a bit of a tank to steal your words lol. he really does need to go in his cot, but its at opposite end of house and i'm scared the spiders will get him! Cos its been warm i found white tip on his wall other day near his cot so now I'm paranoid. Yay for your anniversary date! you and your hubby sound a bit more romantic than us :p

Lukie- I'm so sorry you'r having such a rough time with B... I have no advice but just keep trying different things and I hope that something finally clicks for her and she settles for you a little :hugs: always here for a chat and vent if you need it... look forward to seeing you on FB. And you sound like such a sweet friend to your friend, I'm sure just knowing you're there and care is a comfort to her. I know Z's sleeps got better during the day, when i put him to bed much sooner, think we were keeping him up too long.

Nic- i think you're a trooper for keeping your supply going, and so glad things back on track for you! hope the bells is imrpoving... Did you know I think Zinc also improves your libido haha!!

OJ- I laughed at O being a bed hog ;) How are you going with solids?

Stacey- Yay for the good poos! And yay for your chrissy holiday! I can't believe your MIl said that but do you know what? Mine said the EXACT same thing on Sunday! oh, hubby wasn't a big baby, were you a fat baby?? Cos Z is such a chubber... if you've seen pictures i think he is handsomely proportioned lol, but not a michelin baby or anything like that. I'm realising short of moving interstate the best I can do is try avoid them and keep my mouth shut cos it causes trouble with me and hubby. HOpe yours is better for the most part. Oh and i cracked up at your pop giving H yoghurt on her dummy... not good for her, but old people make me laugh! I'd maybe give them some supervised visits before alone babysitting time again

Kotakai- your family is beautiful, you must be so proud :) Did i read you say premmies have big foreheads? Cos my cousins bubby was 10 weeks early, and he is great now, but he does have a biggish forehead... is that why?

Babycart- Can't believe in the usa they start solids so early...makes you wonder if there is a link between that and there huge obesity epidemic though?? Interesting thought! Z still fully BF, nearly 4 months, and no AF here I'm pleased to say!! Good luck when you decide to ttc again.

ok hope i haven't missed anyone

now some general topics

bumbos- we too bought a blue one at toys r us for $55... bargain, there is a new toys r us babies r us that just opeend so we went to there opening day sale, we were very lucky mym dad and his wife gave us a voucher for Z being born, so we got a few things, his chrissy presents too, an activity table, a door swing, a ball popper thing. Very spoilt lol!
HE can sit in it for a little while, but he does tire quickly in there and flops a bit to the side, but i figure a littel bit each day will help him build his muscles, and its great even for 5 minutes in the kitchen just to stack dishwasher or something rather than leaving him alone on his play mat in lounge everytime i need to do something

ttc- well all teh talk on here of new babies has got me thinking, we want them close together, and up until now i couldn't have contemplated a 2nd... but as Z is growing I am understanding how it is very addictive to have babies, even though I didn't particularly enjoy being pregnant and my labour was awful...but still, guess you do truly forget! I decided i would like next one born in may/june 2011... not too close to Z birthday, and not too close to xmas :)
as for dtd, teh one time we tried, my c-section scar hurt a bit, and made hubby wear condom cos i ddin't want to get UTD even though no AF yet! then i remembered how much I HATE condoms, so irritated down there, so told hubby sorry not happening! LAtely still just so tired, and hubby works till 2 am so our schedules don't exactly match.

What contraception is everyone using? I want to get implanon in again... they say its ok for BF, and I'll never use pill again, so guess I have no choice... now got to get round to doing it. does worry me a littel while BF... but what can you do?

solids- also all the talk of solids got me thinking too... Z can sit well but he flops forward unsupported. I put some boobie milk on a spoon other day and he took it :eek: so maybe he'll be ready for some rice cereal, but i might give it few more weeks cos i'm not quite ready to let go of my baby yet, and he is def happy with BF at moment.

Wrapping- have wrapped Z from day 1. And i think now it is a definite seep cue for him but don't want to give it up cos he doesn't often take dummy. But no matter what we wrap him in, he gets his arms out. or they get caught, either way he is waking himself up getting his arms out. So last 2 days, i been leaving one arm unwrapped, day sleeps ok, but has been unsetteld last 2 nights and wondering if thats why? But in adelaide we having 40 days and warm nights, and although air con on... still think need to stop teh wrapping, but I don't see how when he seems so reliant on it for sleep... but wakes himself up cos if it too? And arms left out...flap all over place and he won't stay still and settle.

Well on to us in general... I'm naughty and have given in and just put Z in our bed all teh time. Like i said, not ready for him to go in cot in his room, but he way too big for bassinet. Have put portacot in our room, but i don't know how good that is to use full tiem for him? We also use a pillow in bed for him which he loves, but i would never put that in his cot. he was going 8-4 for a few nights, btu last couple has been quite unsetteld, so have fed him once or twice, but still fidgety, so I'm giving him benefit of doubt and blaming the heat.
I wonder if we're making it hard for ourselves in long run, we either rock him or lay with him and pat his face to fall asleep most of the time, and being in our bed. Do i just need to bite bullet and put him in his cot? trouble is he needs resettling few times most nights so i don't know if it will be better or worse, as i will be the one up and down all night.
on the otehr hand, i think to myself, it doesn't hurt him to feel loved and safe and secure in our bed... its us who in long run will have to change it, but i have friend who co slept, and her 18 month old has transitioned to his cot beautifully.

co-sleeping sounds like such a naughty word, i don't like it!
on the whole, Z sleeps well at ngiht and falls asleep on the boob if he feeds... just some nights a littel unsetteld. was waking him up for feed at 10-11, but he was still waking at 2, not hungry but waking so i decided to stop it and he did have those few 8-4 sleeps.

has rolled maybe 5 times, nothing regular, but wiggling his legs lots on tummy time, so who knows might try to crawl first!! god help me

He is such a treasure, he is happy and talks and plays, love his jungle play mat, he has worked out how to flick teh roller on the mirror to make the lights and music come on.
I justhave to say, I'm addicted to fisherprice rainforest things lol!!

it is hot here.. so just styaing indoors with Z...making people come to us!

It was our 2nd wedding anniversary yesterday, i got flowers and choccies, hubby goes, why don't we go to barossa or somethign for weekend... I was like, um bit late now!! We won't get time before chrissy now. And we'd take Z with us so who knows, maybe we do something next year.

MIL still pain in my rear!! like i said, short of moving i realise i'm stuck with her, i just get so angry at things she does, which isn't good i know. She is dreaming if she expects me to lat her babysit Z... lucky can use BF as excuse, and by time he's older, he'll get to that attachment age where he wants his mummy and won't want her anyway! I know i'm a cow but can't help it! MOO!!

ok super long post as usual lol off to eat some chocolate for brekkie i reckon!

Square777

11-11-2009, 11:05

omg that post was huge...sorry!

Cassii- glad things going much better for you :)

Stacey- H is so cute :) Think you have a shoe addiction projected on her lol

PrincessPillar

11-11-2009, 16:19

Hey there girls,
Just wondering if you accept new members this late in the game? Really only just found this group and its great to hear all your stories and find out that we're a little bit normal! I have a baby girl who is 16+1weeks born 21-7.
Hope to hear from you guys soon if i can join! :D please?

WotWillBWillB

11-11-2009, 16:41

hi girls this is a quick one.

Who was it that made the spectacular cupcakes and has the great website? I can't remember. I have a couple of questions for them.

So if anyone can remember who it was can you let me know or if it is you can you please pm me. Thanks girls

elleandsam

11-11-2009, 16:42

soexcited

11-11-2009, 20:35

WotWillBWillB6 - it's Daisypie - her website is http://cupcakesweets.blogspot.com/ There's a link on her facebook page also.

PrincessPillar - :wave: - the more the merrier. Everyone on here is lovely and I am starting to feel like I know some of them like we have known each other forever!

Deking - boo for your MIL problems. Some just need to learn to but out. Hope you enjoyed your chocolate for breakfast :laughing:

Elleandmum - glad your lil miss is starting to do so well on the formula. Good luck with your testing!! :goodvibes:

staceylee - I love baby shoes too!!! Nic - you can usually get smaller sizes at kmart (not sure if there is one near you) I have some little shoes with velcroe for O that are a little big but because of the velcroe to do them up they stay on.

AFU - O is absolutely loving the rice cereal - he really knows what it is now and had it all tonight. Going to get his 4 month needles on Friday so going to ask the doc to weigh him. I'm guessing about 8kg.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

11-11-2009, 22:15

Happy anniversaries soexcited and Deking!

Soexcited- I got the shoes from Kmart they are still too big!! :laughing: They are 0-3mths ones too, her feet are itsy bitsy which is funny cause she is so chubby and she has these cankles and I swear her legs are almost as wide as her feet are long! She also has a small head (well I think so anyway)!
Glad to see you had a very productive day!!

PrincessPillar (I shall call you PP if that's OK!)- Of course you can join, the more the merrier!! My little girl was born 30/7 but there are also lots of mummies here whos bubs were due in July but arrived earlier or later too.

Deking- Your posts never fail to crack me up! Yes, I did know Zinc was an aphrodisiac but I must say having a wonky face certainly doesn't put me in the mood! Cant say it's deterred DH at all though! Nah, face is getting better thank goodness! Glad I'm not the only one who sometimes eats choc for breakfast! This morning I ate a scotch-finger for breakfast. :o

If co-sleeping is working for you don't stress over it! I do love it too, but I always lie A's head on my arm and she is getting heavy! I sleep so much better when she isn't in our bed! I do end up putting her there at around 4-5am though (this morning it was 6am..woohoo!). I hate that people view co-sleeping as such a negative thing. I feel that she is safer in my arms where I am continually conscious of her and her breathing etc, than in her room a few doors down where I mightn't wake up if she choked etc. Having said that she does sleep in her cot most of the night. But BF is so much easier when you cosleep!
As for contraception, not using anything other than withdrawal. Which I know doesn't work (DS is proof of that)...but I figure combined with BFing I have a pretty good shot and we are careful! I hate contraception, I hate being on medication and messing with hormones etc. I suggested condoms once and DH declined so I figure it's his fault if we end up UTD! But we won't, we did this for years (and the rhythm method) before we started TTC. :yes:

Lukie- Sorry for your horrible night honey! These bubs know how to test us dont they? So glad you are on FB now, the pics of B are gorgeous!! Hope tonight is better for you.

Elleandmum- glad things are working out better post-Tresillian! Sounds like it was very helpful!! Good luck tomorrow!!

Stacey- I love bub shoes too, I bought some from eBay 6wks ago and they are yet to arrive!! :banghead: So annoyed, going through the dispute resolution process at the moment. When you wrote they are 1/2 size did you mean a half size or a 1-2size? Sorry, I got a bit confused!

AFU- Took A to the pool today for the first time!! J had swimming lessons and it's always super hot in the aquatic centre so I packed A's swimmers too and took her in the baby pool. She was unsure at first but I sat on the step and lay her on my lap in the water and she really got into it. By the end she was all smiles. She loves bathtime and has outgrown her baby bath so I've taken to putting the bath sling in the big bath and bathing her there. A few times she's had a bath with J and she just cracks up laughing the whole time, I'm not sure why!! It is so funny to watch though, had B in tears laughing tonight!
Had a great night last night, settled well at 7ish and slept till 11 then fed then slept till 4am! :smiliedance: Feels much more like we are getting back into the swing of it, so hope it continues.
Went through all of A's clothes and packed all the winter stuff away as it obviously won't fit next year. Still sad that she has so much she never wore! Good to clear some space in her drawers though, she has more clothes than I do!

elleandsam

12-11-2009, 06:05

soexcited - good luck with the needles on Friday!

nic - we're bathing E in the big bath too now, we use to do bathtime in the laundry sink, we never bothered with a baby bath. Good to hear that the swimming went well.

AFU - testing this morning, still have to go buy a test, I'm a little nervous. No, a lot nervous! Pretty good night last night, gave a dream feed at 11.45pm and then still got woken up at 3.50am. But oh well, she went straight to sleep after that feed anyway. She's doing very well, and I know she'll drop her night feeds when she's ready.

SalTheGal

12-11-2009, 08:07

Ok Ladies...I am here, I am posting this to say hello, and I am not going to navigate away from this thread till I catch up and do a proper post- even if it takes me all day!!! So many times lately I have planned to post, and got caught up with other stuff....so HI! to all...I will be back later with more- hold me to it!!!!

Square777

12-11-2009, 10:56

Sal- good luck getting your post done... I know I always have best intentions lol but doesn't always happen

Elle- am eagerly awaiting your news :)

Nic- I laughed at A's legs as wide as the length of her feet, Z on the other hand has long feet and toes i think... have never put shoes on him to be honest, I'm too lazy to pick them up and put them back on if they come off! And I have to say that I giggled that you use withdrawl... So doesn't work!! BUt I guess its different when becoming pregnant is a good thing, not a bad thing IYKWIM? Yay for better sleeps, hope they continue.

Soexcited- yay for O liking his solids. I think Z would be pushing 8 kg now too, he was 6kg at 8 weeks for his needles, I haven't had him weighed since, but I put him on scales with me and roughly 7kg a month or so ago, so he's packing it on! Guts that he is lol.

PP- Welcome welcome... join in anytime :thumbsup:

ok, well looking at ordering some prints and pictures online for chrissy presents.

Oh, and Big w are having a 1 day only sale on saturday ( i'm assuming all states not just SA). Have jumbo Huggies boxes 29.98 I think.

Had better night with Z last night, put him in his woombie which he seemed to like, could still move his arms but didn't keep whacking his face so was better. Reckon he may be doing 4 month growth thing, coming up 16 weeks, cos feeding an extra feed overnight, but its not too bad.

have a good day all, stay cool:flowerz:

elleandsam

12-11-2009, 12:13

Dekking - I think E is going through the same thing right now, for a while she was sleeping 11.30pm to 6am but now she's waking up at 3am wanting to eat. But as my girl use to never want to eat at any time of the day I'm happy to indulge her :laughing:

AFU - and the results are.... :bfn: although I was NOT planning on being pregnant this early in the piece (see my signature) I must admit I had become use to the idea of a little brother or sister for E. Oh well it's not long until January. I'll test again in a week if I haven't got my period yet, but it could still be up and down after stopping taking the pill. I'll give myself another week and then book an appointment to see a doctor.

It was our first successful outing since Tresillian and Elizabeth had most of her bottle (:smiliedance:) and then had about 40 minutes sleep in her pram. Much more successful then any other outing we've ever had. We love our mother's group. She may have another nap before her bottle is due, we'll see how things go. I may rock her off in the pram, I'd like her to have another 40 minutes before her next feed, she's very hard to feed if she's tired.

Next fortnight I'm going to buy Christmas presents, one for each of us from 'Santa' and something for DH. I haven't told DH about the Santa presents, it should be a nice surprise. :yelclap:

michelleand2girls

12-11-2009, 13:20

hi ladies,

welcome PP I am an occasional poster but read most days, have 3 little girls, chloe - 7, millie - 6 and Elliott 16 weeks. enjoying every min of elliott.

Nic, so glad you are beginning to feel better.

hope those of you who are TTC or thinking about it are getting on well. i had 15 months between my first 2 and it was crazy but they are great friends now.if you want any advice let me know. i would likE another one also and am trying to convince DH to go again.

had a fright last night, had to take the girls to my dance class as DH wasnt home in time, they love coming, but my eldest was holding Elliott standing up and she wriggled and fell to the ground! on her face! luckily no harm done and she was smiling in 2 mins, but i was paranoid all night checking she was breathing etc! my poor DD-7 was mortified and didnt stop crying for 2 hours, she loves her so much!

got to dash to do the school run now, but i am going to pay attention to names etc and try some personals next time.

Michelle:wave:

staceylee

12-11-2009, 19:59

Very quick from me. Have a grumpy bub and DH (not standing for dear hubby :laughing:) has gone out even though I dislocated my knee this arvo :crying: SO scary, I was holding H at the time. Lucky it happened near the lounge because she went face first onto the couch as I feel to the floor :crying::crying: It was horrible!! I feel so bad for scaring her that much but she is fine thank goodness!!! All smiles and stuff as soon as I cuddled her :) Anyway......

Nic - The size is a half size so smaller than size 1. Sorry for the confusion :D

Ok will catch up on personals over the weekend.

PrincessPillar

12-11-2009, 21:43

thank you for your fast acceptance of me! :goodvibes: and i even have a nicname already, how special!

i feel like i know you all from reading up. it's been good to see what people are going through and seeing that what A is doing is all fairly similar. she was a little bub 6lb 5oz and last weigh was still in 25% so a petite little girl. her trademark is her huge blue eyes! it's the first thing people comment on. i'm biased i know but aren't we all for our little angels! :cloud9:

we are demand breastfeeding, cloth nappying and occasionally co sleeping like alot of you here. i agree that i don't know why people treat it as such a bad thing. i often feel she is safer in with me and sleeps better because she feels more secure!

i live in adelaide and it is sooo hot here atm. miss A fed every 1 1/2 to 2 hours all weekend and had only yesterday dropped back to her regular 3 hrly feeding.

i noticed a few of you saying that your bubs have started waking more during the night and A has too. we had a beautiful routine of last feed being 11 and going until 530-6 every night for weeks and then this weeks its been 330-4. i liked the old routine better but figure it must be 17week wonder week starting early and the 4 month growth spurt!

hope any other girls in hot places are keeping cool. :sunshine:
and a good sleep to all!:fingerscrossed:
p.s just loving the smilies over here!

sandy119120

12-11-2009, 21:54

Hi evryone

Sorry i havent been able to post(but i'd been reading all) coz i always got someone telling me i need to sleep to get better grrrrr.

Nic- glad you are getting better =].

PP - welcome =]

Stacy - ouch for that nasty accident glad baby is ok, i hope you knee feels better soon. =]

Ellwandmum - :( for :bfn: but as you are not desperate to get pregnant now hopefully you get a positive one by feb....take care.

Deking - Miss m is the same age and she is also eating more still sleeping well but eating lot more.

lukie- hope you had a better night last night.

AFu - getting better missing mum heaps (she left last sund) but foucs on getting better now.

hello to everyone out there, hope bub are all good =]

babycart

13-11-2009, 13:30

Morning everyone

I hope this works. This is a video of Harper trying to eat her bear. She is sitting on my mums lap before we head out to baseball. she wouldnt stop! My mum was just holding the bear so it wouldnt drop on the floor and H decided to try and eat it!

hope it works
http://picasaweb.google.com.au/harper919/Harper1620weeks#5402391189204563090

This is so sweet....it looks like she is giving her bear kisses :valentine:

Hey there girls,
Just wondering if you accept new members this late in the game? Really only just found this group and its great to hear all your stories and find out that we're a little bit normal! I have a baby girl who is 16+1weeks born 21-7.
Hope to hear from you guys soon if i can join! please?

Welcome PP, I', BabyCart and my DD was born 18/07 (she is my first)

AFU- Took A to the pool today for the first time!! J had swimming lessons and it's always super hot in the aquatic centre so I packed A's swimmers too and took her in the baby pool. She was unsure at first but I sat on the step and lay her on my lap in the water and she really got into it. By the end she was all smiles. She loves bathtime and has outgrown her baby bath so I've taken to putting the bath sling in the big bath and bathing her there. A few times she's had a bath with J and she just cracks up laughing the whole time, I'm not sure why!! It is so funny to watch though, had B in tears laughing tonight!

Went through all of A's clothes and packed all the winter stuff away as it obviously won't fit next year. Still sad that she has so much she never wore! Good to clear some space in her drawers though, she has more clothes than I do!

Nic - S loves the bath too! She gets so grumpy in the afternoon and as soon as i take her to the bathroom to get set up for bath time, she settles and then laughs and giggles when we get in the tub together!!!! :yelclap: can't wait to take her to the big pool!

I keep putting off packing up S's small/winter clothes...it's like saying goodbye to my little baby....even more so than starting her on rice cereal :(

AFU - and the results are.... although I was NOT planning on being pregnant this early in the piece (see my signature) I must admit I had become use to the idea of a little brother or sister for E. Oh well it's not long until January.

Elle - Sorry for your BFN. January will be here before you know it!!!

I think i will start seriously, start thinking about TTC around Easter next year.....will I have had to have weaned DD before TTC??

had a fright last night, had to take the girls to my dance class as DH wasnt home in time, they love coming, but my eldest was holding Elliott standing up and she wriggled and fell to the ground! on her face! luckily no harm done and she was smiling in 2 mins, but i was paranoid all night checking she was breathing etc! my poor DD-7 was mortified and didnt stop crying for 2 hours, she loves her so much!

Very quick from me. Have a grumpy bub and DH (not standing for dear hubby ) has gone out even though I dislocated my knee this arvo SO scary, I was holding H at the time. Lucky it happened near the lounge because she went face first onto the couch as I feel to the floor It was horrible!! I feel so bad for scaring her that much but she is fine thank goodness!!! All smiles and stuff as soon as I cuddled her Anyway......

:hugs: to you both...it is so scary when you accidentally do something to hurt the littlies......our big oooops moments have been DH accidentially dropping his phone on S's head (we were all lying in bed, so only dropped a couple of inches - more fright than anything) and when I was trying to cut her finger nails, i accidentally cut her little finger :no:

.....but figure it must be 17week wonder week starting early and the 4 month growth spurt!

Wonder week??? Is this just a time when they discover/learn a whole bunch of new stuff?? Is there anything we should be doing to help/watch out for???

OK - as for us - TODAY i'm taking S for her 4-month shots....I hope she pulls through ok - poor little poppet

I'm also starting to get really excited about our trip! On Tuesday, S and I head off to Brissy to visit my family for 5 days and then down to Melbourne for a week to visit DH's family - yay :yelclap:

Ok - gotta go get ready for baby massage class (assuming S wakes up in time)

take care everyone and have great weekends if I don't talk to you all before then

AC

babycart

13-11-2009, 13:43

Ooops - forgot a couple

Stacy....forgot to say - hope your knee feels better real soon and BOO to DH for abandoning you in your time of need

Sandy - sorry about your mum, i know how much you wanted her to stay longer

I have discovered a sure fire way to wake up the baby.....turn the iron on so you can finish your mountain of ironing...works every time :laughing:

Iron off - car on and off to massage class we go!

AC

PrincessPillar

13-11-2009, 14:28

hi babycart- see if this works http://http://cyh.com.au/HealthTopics/HealthTopicDetails.aspx?p=114&np=122&id=2312 (http://http//cyh.com.au/HealthTopics/HealthTopicDetails.aspx?p=114&np=122&id=2312)

it will explain better than i can. hey our bubs are only 3 days apart!

hope she goes ok with vacc's. mines in a week or so, i wait til calender month says she's 4 months. gives me a few extra days.

WotWillBWillB

13-11-2009, 22:43

Hi girls sorry for a me post but i have a crappy week and need to get it out!

It all started last week when we went away for a friends wedding i pretty much didn't sleep (no i didn't get drunk). TMI but since having bubbas everytime we dtd i end up in agony with tummy cramps and back cramps, no idea what they are but i sat in the motel room and cried most of the night while my lovely dh slept next to me. So since then i have been strugling. Feel like crap!!!!

Plus the weekend went from bad to worse as my nephew (5yo) was in a car accident with his grandmother and her sis. All are ok (or will be) but was so hard being away from family at a time like that.

Then as some my know i have been trying to orgainse a christening for bubs. Well now after the accident looks like my brother and sister in law are not coming. then she tells me that my oldest brother will probably not come down either as he has just started a new job. Plus mum also tells me that she probably won't be able to come down either. So at the moment looks like i may have my nephew from here and that is it from my family. I am sure you can all imagine the emotions i am going through.

Anyway through all this i have been having problems with bubs not sleeping properly too ( i think from the heat cause if i put j in my bed with the air con above him he sleeps well) so it has been a very hard and crappy week to say the least.

I was hoping for a sleep in and for dh to get up to them in the morning but no he is going fishing. So basically another day by myself. Mil and FIL came in this morning for like 10mins and said that DH HAS to come out to their place on sunday to do something important for them. So that has upset me too as mil has now taken over everything to do with the cakes for the christening.

Just seems like i don't matter anymore :crying:

Sorry for the vent i am just really strugling this weeks and am an emotional mess.

Susan

PrincessPillar

13-11-2009, 23:30

wwbwb- i know i'm new and all but you need some encouragement! first i think you need to go to the doc bout the dtd probs. shouldnt be hurting!!! all the muscles prob strained still from carrying twinnies! but they may provide you with some exercises to help. maybe a pelvic floor prob? anyways, you matter and your enjoyment in this area matters and should matter to your dh too!

so scary re. family accident! hope they're ok!

its sad that your family can't make it to such an important event for your bubs!

well, just keep telling yourself that every smile from your lovely bubbas is them saying mumma you are so special to us and we love you and need you so much. you do matter and are important i'm sure! sometimes the important people in our lives forget and need a little reminder!!! :hugs: for you!! and put one of these on your face :D coz smiling releases good feelings that help to make you feel better when you feel yuk!

hope you get a good sleep tonight!

The Fox

14-11-2009, 11:36

Hi guys just a super quick post from me just wanted to share my excitment about O but first
WWBWB big :hugs: to you, i agree you should go to the doctors and ask about DTD and :thumbsdown: to your DH going fishing, men i swear its not that they are bad people but i think they just really have no idea maybe you could try talking to him about it and tell him you need some help and as for your christening i think you have every right to be dissapointed and upset that our family wont be coming, i think its such a shame, hope you feel better

welcome PP m DS was born on the 3rd of july, we are also using MCN as well as the occasional co sleeping i love sleeping with my DS i love waking up and he is smiling at me

So AFU they are not going to admit O to hospital anymore since we cut out wheat nuts and eggs his weight as improve he managed to put on 250 grams in a little over 2 weeks which is great he is now exactly 6kgs :smiliedance: so he is in the 10th percentile which is great as a few weeks ago he was under the 3rd so we are pleased, and since i have cut out dairy, nuts, soy, eggs and wheat i have lost 3 kgs in 2 weeks son i guess thats a positive, oh and one more thing, we had O on his play mat yesterday on his back and he rolled on to his belly lol so he can now roll from tummy to back and back to tummy, im so glad he is getting better he is also sleeping better to since we got our fresh batch of Losec, i didnt even register that since the losec in suspension losses effectiveness with time that this might be the reason for him being a cranky pants and refusing to sleep and waking up in pain, der i cant believe i didnt realise that hehe

as for everyone else Hi and i hope your all well

elleandsam

14-11-2009, 11:38

Thanks everyone for your input on the test results, still no AF :hair: and I'm wondering what the heck is going on with me!

She's started spinning herself around, not yet rolling but certainly on the move. I've caved and bought the Avent bottles, she had started to suck so hard on our cheap-o Coles bottles that she would suck the teat until it collapsed on itself meaning I had to take it out of her mouth reshape it and then try and get it back in her mouth. It never ever worked. So we're using Avent bottles now, that's what they were using at Tresillian so what the hell.

staceylee

14-11-2009, 16:18

Hey ladies. How are you all going? Its been a lovely 42+ deg week here but Harper doesnt seem to bothered by it which is good. Anyway on to some personals.

Cass - That it great news bout O :smiliedance: Great work mum! Keep it O and soon you will be just as chubby as H!

PrincessPillar - :wave: Welcome to our little group. Where abouts are you from? How is your little one doing?

WWBWB - :hugs: Hun. Hope you are doing better and the twins are letting you sleep. Defiantly go see a doctor about dtd.

Babycart - So true about turning the iron on and bubs waking up. How did S go with her shots? H has hers on tuesday. Have a fantastic time on your trip.

Sandy - Sorry to hear your mum had to go back. Happy to hear you are getting better. You are a very strong woman :hugs:

Elleandmum - Sorry to hear about your results. How is everything going? How is E?

Nic - H loves showers, baths and the pool too. So cute that A giggles and laughs when she baths with J. He must be such a proud big brother! I packed away H's winter clothes the other day thinking I would have more room in her draws and wardrobe but I was wrong. I didnt realise H had sooo many summer clothes and I went out and brought more today!! I just cant help myself :laughing: Too many cute cloths. Have you been into BigW lately? They have little Christmas fairy dresses. They are so cute. I got H one.

Well thats about as far back as I can see. Hope the rest of you lovely ladies are doing well.

AFU - My knee is feeling better. Still sore but doing ok. Still fell horrible about scary H but at least she didnt get hurt. H has her needles on tuesday so hope she does ok.
Tomorrow is mine and DH's 6th wedding anniversary. We are going out for tea and MIL is ment to watch H for us. H is still loving watching her Uncle Hayden play baseball on friday nights and loves the cuddles from her Aunty and family friends that are there to watch. I think that is about it. I am going back to one day a week at work which is good because I miss my baby doing 2 days even though she is next door its not the same.

Ok thats enough from me. Take care ladies xoxo

elleandsam

14-11-2009, 17:00

Stacey - good to hear that your knee is getting better. Hope you have a very happy anniversary.

AFU - E is doing well. She's alert for longer and longer which means she wants to be doing things instead of drinking her bottles :hair: but at least she gets her food although it takes a while.

Still no AF, although it's only one day late and this cycle could be a little messed up due to stopping taking the pill but it's still very frustrating.

The Fox

14-11-2009, 23:52

Hi everyone just wanted to share with you my exciting news, tonight Rob and Oliver proposed to me tonight, im on :cloud9: it was soo cute, i had just put Oliver down to bed and he wanted me to go and get some stuff from the supermarket, anyway when i got back we were getting ready to go out to dinner and after we were ready i went to get Oliver out of his bassinet and he had stuck on his wrap the letters Marry me anyway i just thought he was being cute and i couldnt figure it out what was going on and i was looking at O for what felt like ages then i hear a voice behind me say well will you and i turned around and rob was on his knee with the ring it was so cute and romantic and i love my boys so much wohooo now i can officially plan our wedding, heres a pic of my ring i love it
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/cassiiii_photo/Photo96.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb83/cassiiii_photo/Photo95.jpg

staceylee

15-11-2009, 13:39

WOOOHOOOO!!!! That is great news Cassie! And such a cute way of asking you. Beautiful ring also
:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedanc e::smiliedance::smiliedance:

elleandsam

15-11-2009, 14:08

Casssiii - OMG!!!!!
:smiliedance::smiliedance::yelclap::yelclap:

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Square777

15-11-2009, 15:03

Congratulations Cassiii!!!!

How sweet and romantic of your Fiance!!

Your ring is beautiful :yes:

So excited for you, its a wonderful feeling!!

:sunshine::bee::smiliedance:

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

15-11-2009, 20:29

Firstly- cassiii- :goodvibes: So happy and excited for you honey! I think i did a little yelp when I saw it on FB!! What a cute way to propose too!! You'll have to change your sig to say DF now!! When are you looking at getting married? Will you have a long or short engagement?

Elle- sounds like the pill has probably messed up your cycles. When did you stop taking it? I know most ppl say it's out of your system straight away but I've found my cycles are always a bit funny when I have stopped in the past. A is also getting distracted when she is supposed to be eating but i figure if she were really hungry she wouldn't be trying to play!

Stacey- Really feeling for you with those temps, particularly as we get all the weather from Adelaide! It's been hot here but I think the hottest was 39. Harper is sooo adorable! I must admit she is one of my fave babies to look at (not that I don't like looking at them all!) as she is always doing something cute and she is so chubby like A! I just want to squish her cheeks!
Saw the fairy dresses in the catalogue so will have to pop in this week and grab one. Glad your knee is getting better, how scary! Happy anniversary!

WWBWB- Firstly big big big :hugs:. Secondly, I think I speak for everyone when I say that I think you are an amazing mummy. We all have our struggles with our bubs etc but you have that x2!! I think you've done an amazing job so far and I can't even begin to imagine how hard it is as sometimes I feel like I'm going bonkers with only one baby vying for my attention.

I'm so sorry your DH is being insensitive. Mine is a little the same at times but I swear to god if I had twinnies and he tried it I'd be kicking his butt! 2 bubs to one person is just not a fair ratio. :no: What you need is to have some time out, take yourself to a movie or for a massage while he watches the bubs.
As for the christening, I'd be annoyed too, but is your family unable to make it because it's close to Xmas? Could you reschedule it at all? As annoying as she is I'd probably just let your MIL organise the cakes as it's one less stress for you at the moment.
Now as for the tummy and back pain I think PP is on the right track in that it could be pelvic floor related or ligaments stretched etc. You should definitely see someone about it as it's not the kind of thing you want to ignore. Especially as the twins are a few good months old now and if it was something that was going to go away on its own it probably would have.

Babycart- Iron??? What is an iron?? :laughing: I've barely picked mine up since A was born. The boys have learnt that they hang their clothes straight up off the line or they wear them crinkled! In our house though A wakes up as soon as I get in the shower. Though sometimes i take a long one anyway and pretend I can't hear her grizzling or talking. :devil6:
OMG I can't believe you cut S' finger!! OOps!! I'm so scared to use the clippers as I would do the same no doubt! I nibble hers down as thats what the nurses told me to do with jake and I'm scared of clippers!
You won't have to have weaned S before TTC necessarily. I have read though that some bubs don't like the taste of the milk when you are UTD so will self-wean. But as far as TTC goes I think you'd have a good shot by then as she'll be a little older and not feeding as often so you might be Oing again. Can't hurt to try anyway..lol!

Sandy- I'm sorry your mum went home, that sucks. :( You seem like you are doing really well and getting better though from what I've seen on FB. You are a beautiful brave woman and you are doing really well. Big hugs. ☺☺

Michelle- how scary for you! Glad E is OK!

Sal- WHERE IS THE REST OF THAT POST? I'm waiting......... lol! Hope u r well lovely!

Dek- Prints r a great idea for Xmas pressies! Where r u ordering from? I've eyed off the calendars etc at the big W photo place. Let us know how u go.

AFU- Think it's growth spurt time here too. Very unsettled this weekend and tonight just won't sleep so I'm feeding her again even though she only ate 2hrs ago and she's starving! And OMG... the amount of poo today!!!
We got a Bumbo today! My sis picked it up from melb for us. Cheers for the heads up on Toys r Us sale. She is soo cute in it but her chubby legs only just fit in! Think it's time for thigh-master!
Oh and look I have more than 7 symbols... ☺☺☺☺♥

SalTheGal

15-11-2009, 21:11

Hey Ladies....well three days later, and I still haven't managed that post!! :o :o

BIG CONGRATS to CASIII!!!!!! What fantastic news, and OMG your ring is GORGEOUS!!!

Have had the inlaws here all weekend :rolleyes:.... the other day I did read back to Oct, made notes, and have it all here ready to write up a MASSIVE post of personals, but am about to go to bed, and will be out all day tomorrow, so Fingers crossed it might happen tomorrow night or tues :p

Square777

15-11-2009, 22:03

Sal- I laughed at you writing notes... good luck !!

Nic- Been looking at snapfish... they have 40% off, and 20 free prints if you sign up to use... but I'm a bit of a procrasitnator!! I just play around with the layouts for fun... made some calendars and stuff on there otehr day. We had some photos done of Z at 5 weeks, so i might see how they come out printed then decide what ones to get done for pressies. I thought the pic of A's hair was a wig or something, til i looked at it big and realised its all her!! She is such a pretty girl!! Z's legs always get caught putting him in the bumbo too, i have to manually push them through :o

Elle- I agree that it usually takes a while after coming off pill for your cycle to regulate, coupled with the fact that its still not actually that long since our bubs were born and hormones could still be fluctutating from that

Stacey-your poor knee... hoping its on the mend quickly. How long will you be doing 1 day at work for? is it still temporary? H is so cute too... I get jealous of all the cute things yoou can do to girls to dress them up... although i have dressed Z in girl clotehs just to see if he looked like a girl :laughing:

WWBWB- poo poo to your family and your hubby... sometimes people just make things so much harder than they have to be.

Sandy- hope you're not missing your mum too much and feeling a bit brighter

babycart- Whats an IRON?? Admittedly... didn't use one before Z either lol!! I find its wehnever i sit down for a cup of tea!

Well AFU- Poor Z was nackered!! We went to my cousins engagement party last ngiht... Z was so good but with all this warm weather. He only slept on and off til we got home at nearly 2am (they leave 1.5 hours away) fed him tehn he slept til 8.30, and only woke briefly once or twice for dummy, so that was great. And he had BIG sleeps today too!!
Should deprive him of sleep more often tehn he has good sleeps!!
but i was so proud of him, my cousin baby is 10 days younger than Z... and the poor bubby just screamed and screamed... Z never really cries unless he hungry or tired... and usually pretty easily fixed with boob or cuddles.
SO i must say I feel very blessed to have such a happy easy going boy, and it really makes me feel for people whose bubs are a bit harder to settle if that makes sense? I think its got so much to do with the bubby's personalities... i realise that now that i have my own

hopefully we have a reprieve from heat tomorrow, apparanrly only for one day though!!

Not much else for us... hubby been out at teh pub today, so me and Z just been chilling in the air con!! god help me when electricity bill comes!

elleandsam

16-11-2009, 06:05

Sal - looking forward to your epic novel :P

Dekking - sounds like you're blessed with a very easy going bub.

AFU - Was woken in the night by intense... period pain :gloomy: didn't miss that when I was pregnant with E! She then decided to wake up at 4am and then be up for 2 hours, she's now back in bed but I couldn't get back to sleep. She's currently taking about 40 minutes to drink 120mls and it is driving me up the wall. I have one other teat to try and then I'm going to ask the GP on Friday for an opinion when I take her for her immunisations. At this point I'm just glad she's sleeping and settling better, but still I am looking forward to her 1st birthday so we can give up bottles and she can have her toddler formula in a cup.

staceylee

16-11-2009, 08:19

Hi girls! H is having a rest. Next to me on the couch with her head on a pillow. She looks so cute! I love my baby girl :bee: Ok some personals while I have chance. H is now talking in her sleep, so cute!!

Elleandmum - Sorry to hear about the bad period pain :hugs: I know what you mean about the cup at 12mths. H takes almost 40mins to drink her morning bottle sometimes and seems to be only the mornings where we are going out. We gave her some water in a cup yesterday because she was watching DH drink his coffee and she had a bit but kept getting her tongue in the way.

Dekking - :laughing: Did Z look like a girl? I have a confession to make. WHen H was only a couple of weeks old and I was living on 1hr sleep DH had dressed her in a green jumpsuit and I kept thinking she was a boy :o With workI was doing 2days a week temp and now that is up they asked if I would like to do fridays so I am doing that now till whenever. Not sure whats going to happen. I love my job and I love my girl so its great that I can take her to work and she her whenever. I still miss her though. Yay for Z being so easy going! H is the same. Just takes it all in. She is SOOO nosy! Has to check everything out and hardly cries unless she is hungry or tied and wants cuddles.

Nic - Thanks we thinks she is pretty alright :D I hope her hair starts to grow soon. I love A's hair. H's legs get stuck in the leg things up the top when we put in her it. I love her chubby legs and cheeks. Whenever she sees herself in the mirror she giggles and she wont stop chatting atm but its more of a yell and she has discovered some new sounds she can make. Haha the way I go on about her you would think there has never ever been another baby born in the world:laughing:

Cass - In all my excitement I forgot to say that you ring is gorgeous!! H also says congrats and she is very happy for you and your family.

Sal - I hope your weekend was good.

Cutting bubs nails - We use baby nails scissors because I am to scared to bite them or use clippers.

Heat - How are everyones bubs doing? H is doing well. Have you given them water? We have offered H some but she doesnt want it so I guess she isnt really thirsty.

AFU - Was our 6th wedding anniversary yesterday. We even went out baby free. The IL's had H for us. It was very strange for us not to have her with us but it was nice even though after a couple of hours we were both missing her like crazy!!! Its ment to be 35deg here today so I hope it doesnt go over that. H has her needles tomorrow and I am making her a chiro appointment. On a sad note my dad lost one of his close friends to cancer yesterday. He was a great guy and was very protective and caring of me and my bro.
Also its only 6wks and 4days till we go to tassie again.
Another question - DOes anyone know where you can get lifejackets for infants? I have seen some neoprene ones for toddlers but dont know if they make them any smaller.

oscarjessie

16-11-2009, 10:00

Hi Everyone........just having a freak out at the moment and had to share....my next door neighbour (we are in townhouses) came and told me she has rats in her roof (which means they are in mine too)....omg my worst nightmare would be waking up and finding a rat in O's cot.

Thank god he is still in our room! In fact DF said that he is not allowed to ever leave our room - so cute! DF gets him up each morning and they have big cuddles and chats - so cute!

Okay freak out done now!

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

16-11-2009, 13:29

OJ- OMG! Yes, that would freak me out too! I am petrified of mice, but rats.... :eek:. Luckily we've lived here 3yrs and only ever had one mousey which was this year if you remember my freak out over it! A sleeps in her cot but always ends up in our bed by morning. Very cute about DF and O, my DH is the same with A. Bubs always wake i the best mood don't they?

Stacey- aww I think it's cute the way you talk about H, and normal to feel that way! DH realised the other day he's been talking on xbox a lot about A and his friends who are all childless just get kinda quiet when he does. :laughing: Tried giving A water the week she was on formula and she spat it out! Sorry to hear of your dads friend. /(hugs)

Elle- Sorry to hear bout the AF pain! I had awful cramps last night and was moody and thought she was returning but no sign yet. :no:

Dek- LMAO at dressing up Z! My mum used to freak out that ppl wouldn't know A was a girl unless I put her in pink. Weird! When you said
'Snapfish' it occurred to me I could probably get DH to just make us up calendars etc as he is a graphic designer at Snap Printing. Duh! :idea: I must say we're pretty lucky with A too, she never really cries unless she is hungry or tired.

Sal- lol at notes!

AFU- Have no idea when A is hungry today. She's wanting to feed lots but then chucking half of it back up so who knows? Still not sleeping well. :hair:

On the upside, yay for xmas smilies... :reindeer:

elleandsam

16-11-2009, 20:30

Stacey - happy anniversary and I hope you had a good night. How did the injections go? E has hers on Friday.

OJ - I am so scared of rats! The first ship I served on in the Navy back in early 07 was FILLED with them, it was the oldest ship in the fleet and I slept bellow the water line and could hear then scurring around when I was trying to sleep :eek:

nic - I hope the sleeping sorts itself out soon. E still doesn't sleep through the night but at least she naps now so it makes things easier and I can get things around the house done like washing and dishes..... And bubhub and facebook :laughing:

AFU - well it was a long day and let me say thank god for air con. My dad got back into the country today he's been in Poland for 2 weeks and when I rang him he kept saying "it's so hot, it's so hot!" lol but it was good to hear his voice again. I'm a total daddys girl even after living away from home for years we still talk every second day if not every day.

E is doing well. Feeding is still difficult but we are making progress. Im going to have a lazy day tomorrow.

Dh doesn't have a day off until this time next week :gloomy: so it's going to be a tough slog this week, but we will be okay. He's got 24 hour duty on thursday/Friday so i won't even see him. But what can you do.

The Fox

16-11-2009, 21:33

Thanks everyone, im still on :cloud9:, i knew it was going to happen, i picked the ring after all but i had no idea when it would be ready and when he was going to do it, i especially had no idea that he was going to do it then as we were running late to dinner (or so i thought :)), we are planning on TTC #2 in next year, officially from October but will think about it from july, we want a two year age gap and i think July babies rock so i would be stocked to have another july baby, so we are planning our wedding for the end of 2011, if i get preggers in Oct then ill have only a few months to loose the baby weight lol talk about incentive heheh, but if it takes longer to TTC then i guess ill be a pregnant bride hehe its so weird we are getting married at Stones on the Yarra Valley (melbourne) and they are actually already taking bookings for 2011:eek: so we have to settle on a date pretty soon
NicHope Miss A has finished with her growth spurt, how cute are the bumbo's, O likes his but gets bored quickly then tries to slide out heheh
SalHi thanks for the congrats, im so excited - im definately looking forward to your big post hehehe, nah i hope all is going well with you
Decking arghhh the heat sucks when you have babies doesn it, Oliver doesnt really settle well in the heat, although i realised i was putting him down unwrapt because of the heat, when i wrapt him in a muslin wrap he slept much better
Z sounds so cute, how nice of him to give you a sleep in after the engagement party, O pretty much only cries when he is hungry and screams when he is tired but sometimes when we are out and he is crying because he is tired i often jsut end up leaving - he can be hard to settle when he gets beside himself, although boobies always seem to work a treat when he is tired
Elleandmum hope she starts taking the bottle better, it must be hard, if it makes you feel any better i BF O and he still takes about 30mins on each side when he eats maybe 20 mins at best so it can take over an hour to feed him too, hope things get better for you
Staceylee sorry to hear about your Dads friend :hugs: a big :smiliedance: congratulations on your 6th wedding anniversary its hard leaving the LO but its good you guys got to enjoy some alone childless time together and im sure the IL were very excited to babysit
cant give you any advice on the infant life jacket sorry
OJewww i would freak out too, i hate rats, lucky you have O in your room im sure you guys wont get attacked by rats though, how do you get rid of them

sandy119120

16-11-2009, 23:00

Hi everyone,

Cassiii - Big congratulations on your engagement!!!!!

WWBWB - Ohhh i firstly want to send you big :hugs:, you are a wonderful mother, you have two beautiful twins babies, who are growing fantastic. You also should talk to DH about going fishing and leaving you alone after all the twins are his also, men need to hear clear messages about what we want them to do. they sometimes are like kids. And i agree with everyone you should go to the doc about that pain. Hope everything sorts for you soon.

OJ- after we come back from holidays 3 years ago they were a couple of the i was in shock i could be alone in my house but we got someone to get ride of them.

Stacylee - Bog congratulations on your wedding anniversory =].

Sal - Im preparing myself for a long read =]

Elle - yaa for little E making progress. enjoy your lazy day =].

Nic - hope Miss A settle soon and sleep bit better soon.

Deking- I was wonder the same about elect bills last sunday when i had my air con all day...hope is not that high, I dont like hot weather =(. You little boy sound like an angel glad everything is going that well for you. beware that is how i ended up having 3 kids i had a very good easy baby boys =].

TTC - for all mums trying to concive i hope you have a psitive result soon, and another healthy bub =].

AFU - I have to say it A BIG BIG BIG THANK YOU for all the kind words and support you have given to me thru this time, im glad i joined this forum thank you, i am really feeling better i have my frirnd family and my e-friends like you supporting me and i am very greatful with eveyone. I was very scare and it was hard to say why i was going into hospital for at the begining that i lied i felt ashame coz i tho i was the only one and i must be a weak person, but by talking i found it easier to deal with and also that i wasnt a weak person as i tho i was....

And also Miss M is now sleeping thru the night No more 2 o'clock feed yaahhhh . we are doing ok still in hospital but i think we will going home soon.

I miss mum but i know i will see her again. It was great to have her ihere =]

ok hope everyone have a good night sleep.

Sassy75

17-11-2009, 19:22

Hi ladies...just popping in to say hello. I'm back from Byron and haven't checked in for over a week so won't even attempt to do personals except to say congrats Cassi on your engagement! I'm in full wedding planning mode at the moment so you can exchange all your ideas with me!

Archie was a dream on the plane. He was feeding every 2 hours in the heat up there and took a while to settle down since we got back as he was so used to all the attention from my mum and sister. Thankfully DF is back from Hong Kong now and he seems to realise it is routine time again. Gosh it is hard without DF around!!

I got a lot done for the wedding and feel much more organised now. I've even bought my dress online (I know very brave of me) but just saw it and HAD to have it. Now I just need to fit into it :rolleyes:

Anyway...I will start reading from now on and stay in touch :)

Hope everyone is well and have happy bubbas.

soexcited

18-11-2009, 17:00

Hi Ladies

I think I have only not posted in a week but already it feels like forever.

Firstly a massive CONGRATULATIONS to Cassi - that is such exciting news about your engagement and such a cute way of your DF (do you want to say Fiance all the time now? ha ha) to propose.:smiliedance:

Sassy - glad you had fun in Byron wedding planning and A was so well behaved. Wedding planning is just so much fun.

Sandy - glad you are feeling better sweety. Sorry your mum had to go home but hopefully you will be able to see her again really soon. Yay for M sleeping through the night.

elleandmum - hope E is doing better with her bottle. It must be hard having a DH that is away at work like that - I really admire you ladies who have that extra workload thrown on you.

Nic - :hugs:- hopefully A will let you start having some decent sleep soon. It might be the heat making her chuck? When it is hot O guzzles down his milk and I think has too much and then has a little chuck afterwards.

oscarjessie - :eek: - hope they get rid of the rats!! I would be freaking too.

staceylee - sorry to hear about your dad's friend. But happy for your 6th wedding anniversary!!

deking - Z sounds a lot like O. Everyone is always telling us what a wonderful baby he is and they can't believe how happy and chilled out he is. I keep telling them he is tricking me into wanting lots of kids!

Sal - we are still waiting :laughing: Hope you are well.

WotWillBWillB - :hugs: I hope everything gets worked out with the twinnies christening. You are an amazing mum handling 2 littlies.

Michelle - hope you are over your scare. Now you just have to deal with the specialist bill (just saw your FB status!!)

PP - when O started changing his night routine it was another sign to us that he was probably wanting more than just the (.)(.) (among many other signs) and so we started him on rice cereal and he loves it and sleeps from about 8pm to 4:30am now - occasionally longer. But, our GP also agreed he was probably ready for them so might be worth discussing with them? Only if you think she is ready of course.

Babycart - hope your trip is going well. You'll have to let us know how the massage classes go.

OK, I think I got everyone. Sorry to anyone I missed.

AFU - O had his 4 month needles on Friday. Dh still hadn't had his whopping cough or his swine flu needle so I booked him in for those at the smae time so that he took O. As I said above he chatted with our GP about the solids and she agreed all the signs were that he was ready (which was good cos we had started rice cereral a few days earlier!). Going to start slowing introducing vegetables soon -probably end of this week or early next week. Just need to go buy the freezer packs cos I want to puree my own. Will just start off with pumpkin for now. Also tried O on his first bottle of formula the other night cos I thought I would need all this time to wean him before daycare in Jan. I got the Bellamy's organic one and I felt a little bit ripped off because he didn't even bat an eyelid!! He took it fine. Next feed I bf and again it was like I hadn't changed a thing. All I can say is he loves his food! Also, his massive growth spurt has slowed down. The time befire he got weighed he had put on 950g in 3 weeks and now he only put on 250g in 4 weeks. He is still on the 70th perentile tho and is never crying cos he is hungry and certainly doesn't look malnourished so I'm not questioning it.

Lukie

19-11-2009, 10:20

soexcited- desperation over sleep at night has pushed me over the edge... starting rice cereal tonight and praying it is the answer. B fed every sleep cycle after I put her to bed at 6pm last night. 10:30pm and I had had enough. (I took her into bed with me at 8:30pm but she still woke to feed. I know it's hot and all but this is ridiculous!). I went out to DH in the study and said you need to take her *sob sob* I've had enough *sob sob*. He was so aggravated/annoyed/desperate (?) he suggested he make up some formula to get her to sleep, which neither of us actually want to do... Oh dear I'm rambling. Anyway, hope B takes to it the way O has.

Sassy- how exciting- can't remember when did you say the wedding was?

sandy- so glad you are feeling better and M is sleeping so well for you!

cassii- love the ring! Big congrats!

elleandmum- really feel for you not seeing your Dh, not having him around to help out. I feel like each day is never-ending and DH gets home 7:30pm most nights.

stacey- happy anniversary! Did you go out for dinner? Our anniversary is today and we are supposed to be celebrating on Monday as DH is off work- gonna be tough leaving B.

deking- deprving B of sleep has worked to some extent too- only to get her to self-settle again. If I keep her up 1.5-2.5 hrs, she will self settle for her naps. Usually only does 50mins, though the last few days she has had one 1.5-2hrs sleep per day. My dilemma is what to do with her as she gets cranky after 1.5hrs and I can't put her down. I just carry her around from room to room. Unfortunately it hasn't worked for nights.

AFU- I've covered it all in the personals above. Wish me luck for tonight- I'm so exhausted I so hope rice cereal will give us a block of sleep at least initially. I can't believe B used to sleep from 7pm- 11/12/1:30am! Ahh those were the days.

soexcited

19-11-2009, 10:32

Lukie - :hugs::hugs:

Hope the rice cereal works. O hardly took any the first night but still did a big stretch of sleep. Just a hint he likes it heaps better when it is mixed with EMB rather than boiled water. I think cos it is so close to what they normally have. Also we put heaps less EBM in than what it says on the pack for boiled water cos apparently the EMB makes it naturally watery. Probably about 3 teaspoons to 40ml. I usually express some not long before his feed then feed from one side while DH gets the rice cereal ready then hand him to DH for the rice cereal (and feed from the other side once he is done). It's like he knows it is coming now and starts getting anxious. As soon as DH picks him up to sit him in the swing to feed he gets all excited. DH has started getting home from work on time just because he wants to be the one to feed him!!

Happy anniversary. Hope you have a lovely day on Monday.

Lukie

19-11-2009, 11:01

Thanks for the tip- I would have had no idea! I expressed 60 ml this morning, I was going to just keep adding milk til I could work it into a smooth consistency- i got the Heinz Organic rice cereal- it doesn't say how much milk to add on the box?!

Do you feed before or after bath?

soexcited

19-11-2009, 11:41

after - night time is probably the only sort of routine we try and keep to when we are at home - bath, feed from one side, rice cereal, feed from the other side and then bed time.

Lukie

19-11-2009, 14:09

Sorry girls, me again!

So I tried the rice cereal (I figured I should try it earlier in the day first what with allergies and all). She only opened her mouth for the first bite. Then she gagged. Then she got some on her hands. Then she sucked them. Then she frowned. The rest of it I put on her lips and she would suck her lips a little. Does this sound normal? It seems like she's not interested.

(I made up 1.5teaspoons of cereal to about 20ml of EBM so it was very watery).

She does look at us when we're eating, and can hold her head up, etc. I figured she would be more eager. Opinions? Experiences of first time feeding? Please :o

soexcited

19-11-2009, 15:09

Hi Lukie

The first time we had to persist a little with Oliver. He seemed to want it but at the same time he was very unsure and then chucked maybe a 3rd of it back up. The next night he knew what it was and had more and didn't chuck up any and now he loves it. I think it just takes some getting used to for them.

Lukie

19-11-2009, 15:25

Phew! Ok that makes me feel a bit better! Thanks soexcited! :thumbsup:

oscarjessie

19-11-2009, 21:23

I have given O rice cereal a few times now. I use 1 tablespoon of cereal and just have a guess with the EBM. I find if it is too watery it goes in O's mouth and comes straight out..but if I make it a bit thicker he enjoys it more and opens his little mouth as soon as the spoon gets close.

I also find the cereal gets runnier the more time it is in the bowl....anyone else find the same?

O tried some avocado this afternoon and loved it. His face was so funny as he was tasting it.

sandy119120

20-11-2009, 00:30

Sassy75- Yahh for the wedding planning =] . Hope everything is easy i love weeding panning (i want to get married again).

Soexcited - 70 p is a good a normal baby is 50 perc so your bub looks like he is doing great and as you said bub doesnt seem to be hungry all the time.

lukie - big hugs for you, i cant tell you much as i was told if baby doesnt seem to be interested in food is because she/he is not ready so if my babies didnt took it i just waited till they were alder so i always started at around 6-7 months of age. But soexcited and OJ had a better idea =].

AFU- Mia had her bog night sleep and then disaster :laughing: she woke up all night the following night, and then back to once a night mmmmmmm well i just keep waiting until she sleep all night :fingerscrossed: is tonight coz im sooo drawsy from medication i cant hardly handle it. But we getting there =] i know she will grow up soon and i wont have another so just enjoy the ride lol.(but is soo exhausted).

sending lot of sleeping vibes for babies tonight =].

elleandsam

20-11-2009, 05:28

Rice cereal - I give it to E, but not religiously. She seems to enjoy it. I didn't last night because she was in such a foul mood.

AFU - We've been doing cloth for well over a week now, including two explosive nappies while out and about, and I'm still happy to continue, so there you go. We have her injections this afternoon so we'll see how she goes. I must admit I'm a bit worried about how she'll go, but we'll see. She woke up at around 3am this morning, but she was just happily chatting to herself very quietly. I'm not sure if she was sleep talking or just playing but I let her go and she stopped and slept after about ten minutes. So she was in her bed from 8pm to 5.30am, is that sleeping through? I'm not sure.

Square777

20-11-2009, 10:14

elle- i've spent a small fortune on my cloth nappies, but Z grew out of first size really quick, so now he's in next size but i been too slack to use them... not that they are hard! but I've just had to buy the next size up in huggies, so I should start using the cloth ones again. good luck with needles and yay for the self settling. And yes, I'd definitely call that sleeping through!!

Sandy- sorry your meds making you drowsy, but hope they helping you otherwise. I completely understand wishing they sleep better, I really think lack of sleep is a major contributor in making mums feel so utterly exhausted.

OJ- yay for O and the avocado. Question... do you have to start babies on rice cereal or can you start on veg etc? is the rice cereal cos its bland and low allergy etc?? Is O sleeping any better with solids?

Lukie- any news after your night with solids? You sound like your coping so well with B... she sounds like she keeping you on your toes :o hope you get a chance to get a break and some time out soon, even if just for few hours :hugs:

Soexcited- good on your hubby for being very involved, its very sweet.

ok can't see back any further

i think Z must be doing his after 16 week growth thing. Feeding 2 or 3 times overnight again, and a few nights of lots of waking, but last night just woke for feeds and back to sleep, in his cot :yelclap: so felt better for me getting some solid sleep, although definitely not enough!!

Wondering if his more night feeding is an indication for solids? He's never really consistently had long sleeps anyway, on a stretch of good nights he'll go 6-7 hours... so not sure. Also the heat could be making him hungry and thirsty.

He bit my nipple for first time yesterday... i was offering boob to see if he was still hungry.. and apparantly not!! OUCH!! Not impressed!! That kid has STRONG jaws when he bites a finger!

HAve to do needles next week, will weigh and measure him but pretty sure he's at least 8 kg... putting him in 90th % i think... big guts he is!

Well i had a hair cut and massage on weekend... very lovely. I think the last proper hair cut i had was by a transvestite in phuket last year in may :laughing: but have to say it was best cut i ever had... for $10 too!!

Z is really getting the hang of rolling now, mostly back to tummy, and starting to go tummy to back a little too.

Any advice on how to stop them growing so quick??
well Z is sleeping with his daddy at moment... going to shower and eat and tehn off to visit a friend, she is due in a week or so, hopefully its soon cos i can't wait to see what she has!!

Lukie

20-11-2009, 10:59

HI girls,
Thanks for all the info re solids.

OJ- I will try it less runny today- I also found that it got more runny after a while in the bowl.

Sandy- my instinct tells me the same about interest being linked to readiness but I am desperate for sleep so will give it a few more tries. My sister tells me they just have to get used to the new method of feeding and the texture and taste etc. I guess that makes sense too, but I'm not going to push it.

SO... The big news is that after settling B at 6:15pm she woke at 7pm :( I thought here we go... I fed her and then... didn't have to tend to her again until 11pm :thumbsup: We heard her squawk once or twice around 9pm I think, but that was it. So that is a HUGE improvement! I couldn't settle her in her bed, I went back and forth a few times but after 20mins decided to just take her into bed with me and she slept til 3am. Really good again! Then was awake for the day at 5:30am. Can't say for sure if it was the solids- I also gave her 60ml of EBM after bath time- and I kept the air con running til 9ish so it was a bit cooler for her too. Will do a repeat today- but give her the rice cereal after bath and more EBM and see how we go... I have hope again :o

deking- B ocassionally bites down on my nipple, OUCH indeed. Re rice cereal it is recommended because of the unlikelihood it will cause allergies, given it is gluten free, but I have read that pear is a good first food too?

elle- yes definitely sleeping through- that's wonderful that she can settle like that!

QUESTION- Anyone let bubs watch tv? We can't have it on when B is awake cos her eyes becomes glued to the screen. Once when she was impossible to settle I sat with her infront of the tv for 5mins and she stopped crying. Turned it off and she started up again:laughing: Sometimes I would really like a few mins of peace and am tempted to turn it on but I feel bad. Maybe when she's 12months or so? Though I guess by then she'll entertain herself more readily.

Square777

20-11-2009, 11:08

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

20-11-2009, 11:56

Well I've been slack again so here goes- just a few personals!

Lukie- I've PMed you on FB so won't comment too much other than to say I agree with Deking! In fact when A just woke up I have popped her under her toy gym on the playmat and put Yo Gabba Gabba on TV. And I hate YGG with a passion, but anything for some time out! She also loves In The night Garden, B downloaded it to his iPhone and lets her watch it for 5 mins or so sometimes. She loves anything with colours or lights and I often sit on the net feeding her and she gets distracted by the colours!

Deking- That is something that is stopping me using MCNs too, I worry I'd get them and then not be bothered. Am thinking maybe in the New year I might look at it as certainly can't afford any this close to Xmas. And yes OUCH on the nipple biting, A has been chomping for a while and thinks my reaction is hilarious. :crying:
LOL at the transvestite haircut!!

Sandy- Hope you can get some rest honey. No fun having to deal with the regular exhaustion of being a mum and then drowsy meds on top of it!

AFU- A is on the move so much these days! I put her in one spot on her playmat and she rolls to her tummy or back. Pretty funny as she's usually under her baby gym and gets 'stuck' on the side of it and squawks out! She is also repositioning herself in her cot a lot! I put her to sleep on her back but she can usually wriggle her legs and one arm out of the wrap (today I didn't bother wrapping her) and turn herself onto her side to sleep. Sometimes I'll turn her back as i know bubs aren't supposed to sleep on their side but if they turn themselves is it OK? Should I start using sleep positioners or is it too late?
Last night she fussed for ages after she went to bed at 7pm and she fed heaps till 10ish then at 12, 3 and when I put her into her cot at 3:30am she chatted and laughed and I could hear her down the end of the hall. After 20 mins I went in to try to resettle her and she had turned herself on a 90º angle in her cot and was lying across it rather than down. And she thought it hilarious. I gave up and put her in our bed after that!
She has become so cheeky in the last few weeks. Everything is a joke, and she has started playing the dreaded dummy game where she spits it and then laughs as you put it back in then spits it when you go to leave. And the nipple chomping- ouch!! She thinks it's funny though!!
The last few days she's been wanting to feed every 2-3hrs and wanting to sleep lots more in the day too! Not sure if it's growth spurt or heat related?

Bell's is mostly cleared up now and DH tells me my face looks normal again. Right eye still feels a little weird at times but other than that I can smile again so I'm happy!!
:D

Square777

21-11-2009, 22:44

Yay back on line! Just quick one from my phone. Nic z is the same rolls and gets caught on the play mat arch. I've been putting z to sleep in his woombie which is going ok, but he did a full 180 in his ant other night but it was hot so didn't have blankets no him. If a is rolling in her sleep i wouldn't wrap her, or leave her arms out at least. Ok well just a quick one from me. Think z doing his 16 wonder week and exhausting me. Gave him farex tonight it was funny he didn't really eat it but thought it was funny once he spat it all out. I'm desperate for sleep at moment. Night all

elleandsam

22-11-2009, 06:48

Lukie - E usually has 3 'big' (1 1/2 - 2 hours) naps and the a short cat nap in the evening before her last bottle of the night and then it's off to bed. And most of the time I can't stop her from watching TV. She will contort herself into the weirdest of positions just to watch it. She will roll over and over until she's close enough to watch it. I've been putting sponge bob square pants on for her, because I love it and wouldn't mind if she loved him also, I mean after all I have 6 t-shirts, and she has 4 spongebob MCNS.
E's spongebob nappy (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3446420&id=659826285)
Wow I really went off on a tangent ;)

Nic - it's getting fun now that they can move isn't it ;) And that is great news about the Bell's clearing up, I was just thinking of you yesterday and I was hoping you were feeling better :hugs:

Dekking - I hope you got a good sleep last night :hugs:

AFU - E is loving her solids. We skipped the rice cereal for the most part, she really didn't seem to like it at all. So we now give her some vegetables and then some fruit. We always over the savoury first. And since we started giving her dinner... she's started sleeping through! She's still having 5 bottles a day and then an evening meal. She gets so excited when she eats I'm literally scraping the last little bits out of the bowl for her. It's nice to find something she likes and that's easy.

She's cutting a tooth at the moment. It's her bottom right canine (insert random vampire baby joke here) and so far, so good. She doesn't seem to be bothered by it, she is enjoying having a chew on everything she can get her hands on. I wouldn't have ever known until she took a chomp on my finger when she was holding my hand! :laughing:

And today, sometime anytime from now to 7pm our Chrisco will be delivered for the year! I can't wait!

soexcited

22-11-2009, 11:14

elleandmum - you'll have to fill us in on your Criso order. Every year I look at those and then never order cos I have never had the space but I now havw 2 fridges so could consider it. Yay for E's over night sleeps :smiliedance:

deking - boo for no sleep hope you can some soon darl

nic - yay for the Bell's clearing up!! :yelclap: O has been feeding and sleeping more during the day in the heat. It exhausts me so it makes sense that it would exhaust them too.

Lukie - O loves the tv as well. Like the others said I think it is just the sound and colours that fascinate them cos he really doesn't care what is on. DH is funny though and if O is trying to strain to see the TV whilst he is feeding him dinner then he will turn it off. Kind of ironic seeing as though we always eat dinner in front of the TV. I am not worried about it at the moment and unfortunately I have to send him to daycare in Jan so that will massively limit his TV time without me having to do it.

sandy - hope M had some more big sleeps. Thanks for the sleep vibes - O got them!

oscarjessie - yep rice cereal gets runny the longer it is in there. Apparently it is the enzymes in the EBM and is normal.

AFU - sweltering in the heat!!! WE are going over to DH's best mate's parents place today cos they have a pool. Went there yesterday and it was just divine. O loved it. Our friends mum said to me that their side gate is always unlocked so if I ever want to take O for a swim just to come and let myself in (they both still work). They love DH and treat him like another son so O is a like another grandchild for them. My mum is getting a pool soon too so hopefully we will spend most of summer swimming. Just have to enrol O in swimming lessons - most of the places around here don't do them until they are 6 months so am going to enrol him to start as soon as he can.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

23-11-2009, 15:13

OK, I NEED TO SCREAM!!!!!!! :hissy::hair::hissy:

A has been sleeping so terribly the last 4 or 5 days that I'm pretty sure I'm going insane! She no longer self-settles and I think it's cause I stopped wrapping her but now even when I do she still fusses about. It's been so freaking hot I just want her to sleep without being wrapped up (at least in the day). She was doing so well and now she just screams and screams. :crying:
She has nappy rash (stupid me bought the woolies select nappies instead of baby love since my local woolies was out of her size in baby love. Big mistake). Anyway, that only started yesterday so pretty sure that's not the cause. She finally fell asleep after 40 mins of trying this afternoon...at 2:45 and of course I had to wake her at 3:10 to pick up J from school. :hair:
Now we're back home she's exhausted and screaming and won't go back to sleep.
She's rolling over lots these days and she keeps rolling over in her cot. Should I get some sleep positioners or is she too old? I don't want to wrap her while she can roll it doesn't seem safe.

B tells me that she won't self-settle anymore because I let her sleep in our bed (usually around 3-5am when I've given up, she never goes to sleep there in the day or first thing of an evening). But what am I supposed to do, just let her cry and wake up he and Jake all night? Last night it took her 4 hours to go to sleep (well sleep for more than 15 mins or so) after we put her to bed.

So at the moment she is screaming and won't stop and I'm listening to Mozart really loudly..it's not helping. :dizzy:
Even if she *does* go to sleep now I have to leave in 30 mins to pick up DH.

Square777

23-11-2009, 15:48

nic-just quickly sending you big hugs xoxo
yes you can use sleep positioners
have you considered a woombie? thats what we've been using for zac... teh no wrapping just didn't work for us. in the woombie he doesn't roll, i guess cos hes not waking himself up getting out of the wrap.
i doubt A not self settling has anything to do with being in your bed, if anything its the only place Z will self settle
I think A might be going through 16 week growth spurt? Z has been grizzly and harder to please last few days, but last ngiht was good again.
if she won't settle again tongiht and you've tried everything, maybe try a bath or some panadol?
even if it is in the middle of the night... if you're up anyway?

i gave z farex last 2 ngihts, he didn't get it first night
but last night he had it all. and was so funny, will fill in properly later
but he also slept 10-7... not sure if it was good we had big day or the farex... but will try tongiht again and see what happens
i really didn't want to but was getting very desperate for sleep!

elleandsam

23-11-2009, 16:02

Quickly posting while Bubhub is working for me! lol

Nic - :hugs: it's hard when they won't sleep. I know, I'm only now getting a good nights sleep after 4 months! I no longer look like an extra from a bad zombie movie. I hope it all goes back to normal for you soon.

soexcited - talk about hot! It's been awful. I'm so grateful that Defence upgraded all the units to include aircon over the winter or we would be dying. Some days I don't even venture out it's so stupidly hot.

Dekking - E sleeps a lot better after having dinner too. We've pretty much skipped cereals, and put her straight on veges and some fruits. We give her some savoury and then some sweet, dinner and then dessert, tonight I'm going to mix a little prune juice in with her pears, just to keep her regular.

AFU -We've been out and about all day, and she's having a good scream, but seeing as this is my first day off in 11 days, DH is settling her for this one. I'm taking a well earned break and will be drinking a glass of Yellowglen very very soon.

I've nearly spent $400 this fortnight on nappies and cloth nappy accessories... I have a problem! lol It's all because Bubhub went down I tell you, I then went to Nappy Addicts where I got myself into trouble ordering, couldn't help but order some itti brites as well... god I'm naughty. Oh well some of them can be 'wrapped' and can be presents from 'Santa' ROFLMAO. Best excuse ever.

What else, E is sleeping 7.30pm ish to 4.30am ish. I blame it on the solids ;) She's much more settled at night now and doing very well. I had a nice day today with DH and I'm glad he's home tomorrow as well. Only one more week before the kitchen he works shuts down and then two more after that before he goes on leave for a whole month! :D I can't wait to have him home every day and to not have to think Army for a little while.

SammiAnn

23-11-2009, 16:37

Sorry I've been so slack girls, please forgive me???

Many hugs Nic :hugs:. I don't have any suggestions but I doubt having bub in bed with you for an hour or so is really going to make this change that quickly. Hopefully it's something that she corrects herself.

And Miss Lukie, I WISH Master A would watch a little TV. His whole awake time is spent with me keeping him occupied. All floor time is me passing him toys and talking, which isn't too bad I guess but I'm finding it frustrating to have to drop everything when he wakes. Our girls watched a small amount of ABC kids shows when they were little, just enough for them to occupied until I finished the washing up or went to the toilet or something. I trust that you won't use it as a baby-sitting device, you are a great Mummy.

Thinking of you Sandy :hugs:.

I LOVE your christmas pressies elleandmum! What a lucky little girl you have there!

Hi deking! A has been having rice cereal for a week and is LOVING it! I put a bit of banana in those mesh feeding bags and he thought it was fantastic! He's slept through the last two nights. I'm not going to call that it's permanent just yet... but here's hoping our boys have found their sleep!

Hey soexcited! Glad you've found a cool spot, we ventured to the coast for my grandmothers 89th b'day and the humidity nearly did me in!!! Give me dry heat out here ANYday!

Big waves to everyone else out there, I hope you've found some cool spots to hide in.

Sam :tree:

PS Woohoo! The xmas smilies have arrived since I was last here!!!

soexcited

24-11-2009, 08:18

SammiAnn - :wave:

elleandmum - glad the big sleeps are settled in. You make me laugh at your spending habits on the MCNS. I know I would be the same if I used them (I would probably end up spending more than sposies :laughing:)

deking - hopefully Z had another big sleep for you last night.

nic - :hugs::hugs:- don't know the solution hun. Just keep your alcohol countdown going and remember you are a great mum.

AFU - O has now slept 2 nights in a row from about 8pmish to 5:30am with no wake ups at all - he used to do 1 or 2 for a dummy but hasn't the past 2 nights. Things I have done different on these 2 nights - started him on butternut pumpkin for his dinner, stopped wrapping his arms just wrap him from underneath the arms to restrict his legs and checked on him just before going to bed and out his dummy in if it has fallen out (although it is never in by morning). Not sure if these are the magic solution but did the same each night so will keep it up. The pumpkin poos are interesting though ......

Is anyone taking their lil bubs to have a photo with :santa:(just wanted to use a Christmas one ha ha) I am thinking I will take O on Friday. Am going shopping tonight to get him an outfit for that and some family photos we are having next week (MIL gave us a gift voucher for our 30ths for the same photographer who did our wedding shots).

I think MIL is unhappy with me at the moment so feel free to skip my upcoming rant. She said she wants us to come to her house for lunch on boxing day this year and stay the night. I already explained to her a week ago our current Christmas schedule. DH and I both come from divorced families which means Christmas is a nightmare for us. We never see his dad on Christmas day and always do Christmas eve with that part of the family. My mum and dad take it in turns and alternate between Christmas and Boxing day each year and MIL has always had some part of Christmas day. This year we are going to my dads on Christmas day lunch because for various reasons he has done boxing day for the last 3 years. He lives over an hour away and we decided we would do both our mums on boxing day. My mums for dinner and DH's for lunch because she had originally said she would just fit in around us this year. Now she is upset with me that we are not staying the night (never discussed previously). I can't change mums because my sister is a nurse and has taken a shift on boxing day morning. I snapped at her for probably the first time ever and said that perhaps people should think about what a nightmare it is for DH and I to travel around everywhere in Christmas traffic trying to fit 4 different families in and this year we have to make poor O sit for over 1 hour car trips each way 3 days in a row just to fit every one in. I rang DH to tell him and he just said whatever babe I'll back you up. Which is lovely but now I am dealing with the guilty feeling of I am the evil DIL. Anyway that is my rant off my chest :ecomcity:

Hope the non-sleepers got some sleep last night!

SammiAnn

24-11-2009, 10:16

Morning girls :wave:,

Many :hugs: soexcited and also many :yelclap: for saying your piece! Great that your DH backs you up too, so he should, you're making complete sense. I hope she comes to her senses and realises some time together is better than none. Best of luck and stand your ground!

And I like this new guy too :santa:. But my alltime fave every year is :reindeer:, so cute!

Have a great day girls, school and kindy day here so just bub and I for a few hours which is nice.

Sam :xmas:

staceylee

24-11-2009, 10:42

OK so I will try to catch up SIL and BIL have been here over the weekend so havent been able to get on.

Soexcited - I dont think you are an evil DIL. You already told her what your Christmas plans are and she should respect that. She probably just wants to spend more time with O. I dont know though because I dont know your MIL. You have told her your plans so dont feel guilty you havent done anything wrong :) Christmas photos - I havent thought about it. Might do it though.

Elleandmum - :laughing: love your present idea! I want to get more MCN's what types do you have? I love my itti bitti's soo cute. Well done E for sleeping most of the night for you. Pleased to hear you are having a day off and that DH will be on leave very soon.

Deking - I hope Z continues his big overnight sleeps. Hope you are all well. Get much rain over the weekend?

Nic - :hugs: hun. I really dont think she stopped self-settling beacuse you bring her to bed in the morning. You can still use sleep positioners for A. can you wrap her with one arm out so she can push herself back over or under her arms so they are free but her legs are wrapped up? Hope she starts to sleep better for you soon. So happy to hear that the bells has cleared up!

Lukie - If it gives you a few mins peace put the tv on. We have it on most of the time. H watches it for a couple of mins then goes back to playing. We have a baby touch play dvd that I put on when I want to fold the washing and she watches that. Gives me just enough time to get it done. She doesnt watch it for long so I put some toys around her.

Ok thats as far back as I can see.

AFU - H had her needles last week. It went ok. SIL and BIL came to stay over the weekend and BIL and DH put up our carport/shed. It rain so much here, was considering building an ark at one stage :laughing: H had photos done at care this week so we will be giving them as christmas presents.
It was DH's birthday on wednesday, I did a canvas with foot and prints on it from H. He loved. We went out for tea with my bro and SIL and my bro made DH a giant doughnut for a birthday cake with jam and cream in the middle and choc and strawberry icing. H looks like she is cutting teeth can see them coming but it looks like she will get 3 quiet close together, 2 bottom ones and 1 top 1. I have been unwell for the last couple of days. Had full body aches, headache, sore throat and a temp of 40.1. when I took panadol it dropped to 39.4 so wasnt feeling real well. H thought it was funny, she kept laughing at me. DH canceled his morning jobs to look after me and H till MIL could get here. Thank goodness she could come because there was noway I would have been able to look after H by myself. I woke up the her giggling at one stage because she had pulled her sheet up from the bottom of her bed and was eating it. She had a feral night last night. Poor DH had to look after her and me and he didnt get to bed till well after midnight. He said he was to wound up to sleep because he was too worried about me and H wouldnt settle. He told me this morning that he now know how much I do when it come to H after having to do it all himself last night.

H still isnt rolling. She is closer to rolling from her back to her belly then from her belly to her back. She gets onto her side then stops when she is on her back and when she is on her belly she just wants to move forward. She is also trying to sit up by herself all the time now. We are thinking of starting her on solids as she is looking real interested in us eating so we will probably start her in the next few weeks. Its easy to tell when H is tired but lately its been hard to tell what she wants. Sometimes she wants to be wrapped tightly other times she doesnt, sometimes she wants want her dummy other times she doesnt.
I hope this works. This is a video of H really not liking her uncles hair cut. She isnt upset just angry. http://picasaweb.google.com.au/harper919/Harper1620weeks#5406826264927591106

babycart

24-11-2009, 11:48

Hi Everyone

Yay for Christmas :xmas: :reindeer: :santa:

Can't wait until I get home this weekend to put up my :tree: DH always says I can't do it until the 1st of December...but might get it in a day or 2 early.

S and I are half way through our travels - we spent about 5 days in Queensland visiting my family. S was re-named McSweaty...she struggled sleeping with the heat and humidity, but we got there in the end. We are now spending the week with DH's parents in Mornington, VIC.

Not going to do too much in the way of personals, but will add my 2 cents to some of the topics :)

Baby's first Christmas - yes, I want to get a Santa photo, probably just to add to S's scrapbook. Have bought her an outfit to do a happy-snap to send out with the Christmas cards and Christmas letter this year. S's Xmas present list is nice and practical - a plastic clam-shell swimming pool/sand pit thing, bath toys, high chair and a liner to put in the trolley.

TV watching - S loves the TV, she will also twist herself around to try and see the screen - she just likes the flashing colours. I try to face her away from the TV, but if she sees it for a few minutes I don't mind too much. I let her watch TV if i am trying to trim her fingernails....it's the only way she will keep her hands still!!! I think the problem with letting them watch a lot of TV is that the baby needs the interaction to learn and develop and a TV doesn't interact back. For short term watching, there is no problem, but it is bad to leave the baby plonked in front of the TV for a long period all the time.

Solids - I have started S on rice cereal. I had been giving it to her in the morning, but after reading the posts here, it might switch her to evenings and offer her Breast 1, solids, breast 2 and then put her down to sleep. I think i will start trying her with some pumpkin next. Do you need to add breastmilk to the pumpkin??

Needles - S had her needles about a week and a half ago. She was a little unsettled the following morning and had a little temperature. She got a massive red lump/bruise on one leg, but apart from that, she was ok

Nic - so glad the Bells is clearing up - take it easy so that it doesn't come back

Rolling - S still isn't rolling, she doesn't even seem to be trying......hhmmmnn, i guess she will get there in her own time and i can continue to enjoy putting her down on the floor and finding her where i left her :)

that's about it from me.

We are hosting DH's work Xmas party (about 40 people) less than a week after we arrive back in Perth. I'm a little worried as people will be arriving at the same time as I'm giving S her bath, dinner and to bed. I guess i will just hae to be MIA as our guests are arriving...any suggestions???

Ok - gotta go get some lunch before S wakes up from her nap (she's been down for nearly 2 hours - yay)

take care

AC

sandy119120

24-11-2009, 13:57

Just a quick post for me i will be back later for more personals as Lilttle M just woke up.

Nic- you dont need to wrap mis A just make her room dark during the day and put her in her cot or bassinet i guess you ussing cot now and pat her till she goes to sleep, it may take several minutes before she gets to sleep but she will get better, if she takes her dummy give it to her and pat her while she is in her cot. hope it helps also if you dont use your air condic maybe put a fan on her room to keep temperature down. :reindeer:

SammiAnn

24-11-2009, 14:07

:wave:,

Awwww StaceyLee!!! That video of Harper is just precious! I love her asserting her dissaproval, just gorgeous, thanks for sharing.

Babycart, I would continue with your routine as normal. I'm sure most would understand and if not meh, better you be missing for a small part than having an over-tired cranky babe. And especially as it's your DHs workmates I think it's fine for him to greet them. Good luck hun!

Hey Sandy! How are you and Miss M going? Hope you have a nice cool spot.

I've finally found my way to the FB group and added a couple of pics of Master A. It would be cool to see some more updated pics of these precious July babes if you girls get the chance. Only 3/4 of an hour before my girls land home and my quiet time ends!!!!

Have a great afternoon and sleep well tonight.

Sam :reindeer:

Square777

24-11-2009, 23:01

Sammi- Hi, nice to see you again! How is A going with his feeding and sleeping? We've had lots of dry heat here... it gets so stifling soemtimes... although I've been staying inside mostly with Z in the air con on the really hot days.. oh thats every day we had!! lol

Sandy- How are you and miss M going??

babycart- you're so good putting your tree up... I hate putting one up, we take forever to take it back down. Plus I think the spiders we have been invaded with would like it as a home. Might go to my SIL, and use hers and pretend its ours to take some photos with Z :laughing: hoep you are enjoying your holiday... its nice to get away hey?
Yep, definitely do what you have to do, your hubby can greet your guests, I'm sure no one will mind. Z does roll... but i have a feeling he might be a baby who crawls first and rolls later!

Stacey- H just seems like she is such an entertaining girl, such personality!! She's adorable! We got enough rain for the dogs to make it into teh back yard and get covered in mud (we haven't landscaped yet... only been 3.5 years :D). But that was it really, not much. Sorry to hear you've been unwell, hope you're all on the mend and feeling better... sounds like you're hubby took good care of you both. question... how much does H weigh and what size clotehs is she in? i keep getting told Z is big for a month old, not in a bad way, but i don't know how big they are meant to be at this age?

Soexcited- yay for the big sleeps! I have a divorced family too, and know how complicated christams can get. It is never just one day... it seems to last ages. I don't think you are being unreasonable at all, and excellent that your hubby agrees, definitely makes life easier.
My MIL had the nerve to whinge to SIL about 'waking up alone' xmas morning ( except her hubby of course). She has been lucky enough to have her 3 children and her grandson (not Z), every year of their entire lives up until now on xmas morning. I think its about time she stopped being so selfish and allowed her children to enjoy xmas morning with their own families! Wasn't impressed when we said not doing sleepover this year... but too bad. We have Z and I don't want to be fighting her for his attention! Sorry... rant of my own..
don't feel guilty.... nothing compared to what I said to my MIL when I had it out with her :o

elle- hope you enjoyed your day off! my hubby works arvos and leaves at 2pm, and gets home at 2am. the mornigns are my littel respite (if he gets out of bed that is), so i can't imagine how tough it is for you for long stretcehs with no break. I love my online shopping addiction lol... but it costs me way too much money!

well afu-
Z has had rice cereal last 3 nights... he scoffs it. I wasn't sure if it was too early, but he LOVES it. I can't believe he's taken to it so well. Will have to video him... if i take too long, or show him the spoon but don't give it to him, he does these grunts and has a hissy at me! I do it on purpose a little bit cos its so cute!
How long is everyone doing farex for before moving to veg and fruit? do you cook the fruit before giving it?
I don't know if its coincidence, but he has settled so well last couple of ngihts, feeds about 10-11, and has slept til 7 before next feed. both tiems he has woken once or twice during the ngiht, but settled back with dummy really easily. Heres hoping it continues.
I find the only time Z will take the dummy is in the middle of the night when he wakes and it resettles him most of the time for few minutes then he spits it out? but won't tkae it any other time?

my sister gave Z a xmas outfit when he was born, i dressed him up in it otehr day and took photos! and have ordered some online for chrissy presents. Will also be going to local shops and getting his first photo with :santa: can't put pics on fb cos the people who wll be getting them for chrissy will see.. i'll try load some in here if i can
Saw my dr today and will be having implanon in on thursday, I had it before Z, and found it great. reluctant to have it in while BF but I've been getting lots of migraines so am hoping it will fix them.
As mentioned... 3 migraines in last week have not left me feeling flash at all!

i was going ot write somethign else but can't rememebr wha!
eitehr way, this has taken me forever and Z is sleeping so i should be making most of it!

can anyone tell me how to put pics in my post?

elleandsam

25-11-2009, 04:21

Just a quick one from me, will do personals later. E is continuing to settle well, and sleeping through most nights. We've only had one early wake up this week, and DH took her. She woke up at 3.30am not 4.30am. So now I HAVE spent $400 on MCNs this fortnight and i'm on a self imposed nappy ban until January. If I don't I won't be able to afford to go on any sort of holiday for Christmas.

I'm about to try and get E down for her morning sleep. DH is back at work today. Missing him already :(

Lukie

25-11-2009, 07:34

Back again after a few days MIA- just haven't been motivated to post. Heat has been horrendous- so glad it has settled, but the cool weather hit hard and now B is sick. She is in relatively good spirits considering she sounds like she is coughing up a lung or two, except for her cranky outburst yesterday afternoon but some panadol fixed that quickly.

I will do it backwards in case I forget to update you all later in my post- tried the rice cereal twice more, the second time she opened her mouth for the spoon most times but still gagged and spit and frowned at me. The third time she had one bite and started crying, so that was that. She still woke after one sleep cycle after I'd put her to bed, and would only settle with a feed. Am confident that she is not in need of more food but rather comfort at night, so will hold off on solids a while longer.

Meanwhile the past two nights she has been in bed with us from 9/10pm and has actually slept very well from then on. I put her in her bed at 6ish and she wakes and feeds at 7, 8, 9, 10 pretty much, then I have taken her into our bed and last night she slept soundly until 4am! I think it's because she is sick as she has never done this before! Though the cluster feeding might have helped too. She even got her arms unwrapped and had them above her head in that oh so sweet baby way, but slept on regardless.

Now for personals...

babycart- top idea to cut S's nails in front of the tv- will be stealing that idea! About your dinner- you could get your nightime routine started half an hour earlier if S is tired enough? That way you can get to the party sooner if that is what you want.

stacey- glad H is back to normal, no good when they're sick. Trophy for your DH for being such a good carer!

elle- glad to have another spongebob fan around! I love love love spongebob! As for your mcn problem- you should start up a mcn addicts group- i'm sure there would be a few members that could try to keep you accountable so you can have a holiday after all! :laughing:

deking- (and others interested in fruit/veg) I bought one of Annabel Karmel's cookbooks called "100 best baby purees" and it tells you how to prepare fruit and veg (ie. steam or stew, etc) and good combos that work. It has pretty pictures and looks yummy so I couldn't resist picking it up for down the track.

soexcited- I worked with :santa:the Christmas of my last year at uni. As such, I have no desire to have B's picture taken until she asks us to. It has taken all the magic out of it for me. Yay for even better sleep! Your little man sounds like he has the hang of it now!

SAmmi- glad you're back! I agree about the play- its exhausting sometimes.

On the TV issue- DH and I watched this doco called... can't remember... something to do with babies and consumerism. Anyway, it was saying that TV before 2yrs of age stimulates them so that they expect real life to be as fantastical as the fast-moving pictures, lights sounds of tv, etc etc. Can't really remember, of course it was about plonking them down rather than a few mins of accidental tv watching.

Ok, thats it from me. Sleep cycle almost over so going to dash to the bathroom and hopefully have time for a quick cup of tea before she wakes... Happy Wednesday all!

elleandsam

25-11-2009, 10:13

soexcited - good on you for sticking up for yourself. MILs can be such a pain in the ***!

staceylee - good news on the needles, we'll be doing ours on Friday, so not looking forward to it.

Deking - we aren't doing cereals at all, we have started on a mix of fruit and veg from the start, the cereals just seem like empty calories and seeing how DDs formula is already thickened I don't see the point. I give her veg and then fruit, so savoury and then sweet. And she loves it!

Lukie! You're back! E is enjoying her fruits and veg, we're thinking of introducing avocado soonish. And the three of us love spongebob, in all honesty it's the only show I'm happy for her to 'watch' because Spongebob just has this lovely innocence about him, and he's so darn cute :)

staceylee

25-11-2009, 10:32

Just quickly before I head out...

Deking - H weighs 7.4kgs at 4months and one week. She is just over the 90% range. People say she is big but the nurses and doctor dont have a problem with it as she is just big not fat. If it help a friend of mine's little boy has just gone 4mths and is 8kgs.

babycart

25-11-2009, 13:13

Hi,

Thanks for the advice re the Christmas Party - I think i will try and start her bath/dinner/bed routine a little on the early side and DH will have to handle the host duties....it will just mean that i won't be available to help do the last minute organisation.

after my thoughts about not really letting S watch TV, this morning, I got out of the shower to find FIL had plonked S down right in front of the TV to watch Sesame St :cool:

I tried S on rice cereal for her tea last night.....she went from her usual pattern of 6.00-6.30pm feed then sleep to 3.00am-ish and awake again until 7am to:

6.30pm - feed then down to sleep
8.30pm - feed then down to sleep
12.00am - feed then down to sleep
3.00am - feed then down to sleep
6.30am - feed then down to sleep

....thought cereal would help her sleep better...not worse!!!!

I did find last night, that i could not express enough milk to make her cereal. I had given S (.) #1, then tried to express off (.)#2 and got just a few drops. Have been feeling pretty soft and squishy all day today, so think i might be baking a batch of cookies this afternoon

ahhh - sorry for the me post...but Miss S just woke, so better go

take care and be back later

AC

babycart

25-11-2009, 13:17

"....she went from her usual pattern of 6.00-6.30pm feed then sleep to 3.00am-ish and awake again until 7am "

sorry - just proof read....please insert 'asleep' for 'awake' again until 7am

SammiAnn

25-11-2009, 19:24

Just a quick one from me girls, I'll hopefully be back tomorrow to catch up with everyone's post. Just wanted to reply to yours BabyCart :wave:.

When I've started each of my babes on solids I've introduced it of a morning so they have the whole day to show any upset or reaction to it. Maybe it made her little tum too full and unsettled her? I gave Master A rice cereal for breakfast for six days before switching it to the evening. He has rice cereal with milk (about two tablespoons plain and then one tablespoon with mashed banana) at approx. 5:45pm, then bath 6:20pm and last feed and bed by 6:45pm.

That is just our guide but from memory it was very similar with the girls. My DD1 didn't sleep through until she was 10 months and she started solids at four months. DD2 slept through from five weeks and didn't have solids until six months. A has started solids a week and a half ago and has slept through three times now. So I think it's my own wishful thinking that it helps with sleeping through as out of my three it's only A that has coincided!!!

Hmmm... I hope that makes sense and isn't just the rambling of a loon!

Have a great night girls and may all your babes sleep through and wake with their first teeth with no tears!

Sam :xmas:

oscarjessie

25-11-2009, 22:18

Hi Everyone,

Have not posted in ages I know...naughty naughty!

So I will attempt some personals...

Good idea on the cereal in the mornings SammiAnn. I gave O some pumpkin in the afternoon and he just farted all afternoon and cried with tummy pain and it was so hard to get him down. He ended staying up to 9pm crying and unsettled. I could not believe it...considering I had cooked and mashed heaps of it and frozen into cubes! But the cereal is fine.

Hope that milk comes back in force for you babycart. I find that I feel really empty after a terrible night of feeds but it comes back quickly. Hope you are the same.

H is so cute and not fat Staceylee. I get the "he is so huge for 4 months" thing all the time...but have not weighed him for weeks. He would have to be well over 7kg now I think. He was 6.5 last time I weighed him - but I know BF babies slow down after 3 months.

Soexcited - I totally feel your pain. We have family all over the place - ranging from 1.5 hours to 16 hours away and we have told everyone we are not moving on Christmas day. We are staying at home and if people want to come here that is great otherwise we will catch up later. So far we just have the inlaws coming. But a few weeks ago my BIL had this big hissy that we were not going anywhere so tried to arrange this family get together in Sydney of all places (we are in Brisbane) as an early Christmas thing. We were like - the reason we are not coming down at Christmas is because it is too much of a hassle - so why would we travel down for a weekend? Caused some dramas but as the only people with a baby in the family we should not be the ones dropping everything for people who do not! And DF and I have travelled to our parents for the last 10 years and they have never travelled so we are having a rest this year and the only travelling we will be doing is to the beach!

Re solids...we are on the rice cereal and have tried avocado and pumpkin. He loved it all and opens wide when the spoon goes near his mouth! DF persists in rubbing all types of food on his lips which drives me crazy!

Might try some pear in the next few days.

Apart from that his sleeping patterns are all over the place. He sometimes sleeps for 3 hours during day time naps or just one cycle and then will go down like a treat at night - or sometimes will give me heaps of trouble putting him down! So hard to tell what he is going to do. For example tonight he went down really well but then woke 3 times within the first hour before he really fell asleep!

Anyway just starting to rave on now about nothing!

Good night!

KiahsMum

25-11-2009, 22:33

My apologies to all, I have been reading but not posting, life is a bit of a mess at the moment so feel free to skip my rant.

My MCHN gave me the PND questionnaire finally, (3 nurses and 2 GPs have basically ignored me when I have said things are really tough) and I came up with mild PND so I have been referred to counselling which I go to tomorrow for the first time. I am hoping it will help.

Sarah is very clingy, in fact the nurse says it is odd as she seems to have separation anxiety which normally doesn't appear until 8-12 months... this is making it hard as I never get out and have no life which is making the depression worse. I have only now booked a haircut and am concerned I am going to have to cancel or leave the appt as she still doesn't like or want to take a bottle and everyone I leave her with panics and calls me so I have to race home to feed her. This means I never really get away from the crying and feeding and just have time for me and after 4.5 months it is really getting to me. We have said we will go to my work xmas party but thinking we should cancel that too as my mum is really bad with panicking over feeding Sarah and she will be looking after her if we go.

I am exhausted all the time, when not looking after kids I am working and have NO downtime. Working from home I can't escape it and it is hell. All I want to do is burst into tears but I don't have time for that so I am eating my feelings and gaining a lot of weight which again depresses me... I just want to go to bed for a week and cry my heart out which sucks given I have two beautiful girls whom I love dearly.

Speaking of which Sarah is awake, off I go

Lukie

26-11-2009, 07:06

Oh KM- your post brought tears to my eyes- I am glad that you are finally getting some support in the form of counselling. I wish there was something I could do or say- :hugs:- it's so hard isn't it? Especially given you are working from home. B is also clingy and I spend half her awake time carrying her around cos she won't even let me put her down. Haven't tried leaving her with anyone yet- she often cries or does sad face just seeing my mum! I hope you can come up with some good coping strategies at counselling and get some relief soon. :hugs::hugs::hugs:

soexcited

26-11-2009, 09:13

Lukie - B must realise what a great mumm you are and want to be near you. It must be hard. Does that mean that you didn't get to go out for your anniversary? O is getting a little bit clingier to me as in he lookds for me now that he is older but will still pretty much go to anyone.

Kiah'smum - :hugs::hugs:- I know it is hard and easier said than done but is there someone you can leave her with that will just persist through it. One time I was leaving O with my mum and he got a bit sooky and didn't want to take his bottle but I think he was just hot and starting to get hungry, and I didn't want to leave and my mum told me I would just have to leave. I thought it was a bit harsh at the time and she told me when I came back that he was a bit sooky but that she gave him lots of cuddles and he got over it. My mum absolutely adores O but has always been able to turn off the emotions and just deal with a situation so she was a good one to have him. I am much more emotional so she texted me a photo of him at dinner. Anyway that little rant that turned into a me rant was meant to say You just need a night off sweety. Can your DH take her and give you a night with the girls or something? Hopefully something will work out. Best wishes for your counselling session - hopefully that will help some. Am thinking of you :hugs:

oscarjessie - O drastically slowed down on the weight gain after 3 months - we are the same though still always getting wow he is a big baby for 4 months. I just smile and say yes he is.. My O loves his pumpkin at a night but I have noticed that it takes a bit longer for his poo to come through and way TMI they look just like pum pkin when they come out. I have started giving rice cereal of a morning as well.

SammiAnn - :wave:

Babycart - sorry to hear about the sleep patterns. I remember when I was doing my oodles of research before we started O on the rice cereral that it did say that not all bubs will start sleeping through. I sometimes express the milk for O's cereal first thing of the morning because that's when I express best. I find it a lot harder of an evening even though he seems to feed fine. Enjoy the party planning. Everyone will expect you to be off doing baby stuff at various times of the night!

staceylee and elleandmum - :wave:

AFU - O has been pretty nmuch sticking to his sleep routine which has been really good. I have my work Christmas party:xmas: on friday night and DH will be in charge of O for the night (we don't invite partners to our Christmas party). There is tons of EBM in the freezer so I have told DH I am going to have a few drinkies which means he will also have to get up to O overnight if he wakes up because it's not at all appropriate for drunk mummy to get up!!

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

26-11-2009, 20:04

Sorry for my absence of late! I'll try a bit harder!!

A is driving me nuts. Absolutely bonkers. Her new self-imposed 'routine' of an evening goes something like this...

Bed time between 6-7pm, usually by then she is quite tired. She usually has a bath, then boobies then bed. She sleeps 1 sleep cycle (approx 40-45mins, never longer). Then at around 7-7:30 she wakes up crying. Nothing will settle her and she screams for a while. I've been in there tonight, tried changing a few things, turned her lamp on etc. Nada. The ONLY thing that will help her is boobies. So even though she only ate 1-2hrs ago I let her feed. She feeds hungrily then comes off and starts to chomp my nipple which is just hilarious to her. Then she does a big poo so maybe it was tummy pain? Change her nappy and put her to bed and she is now in her cot chatting away to herself, has mostly likely unwrapped herself and is probably waving her dummy around in one hand. If the other nights are anything to go by she'll keep this up till 10 or 11pm at least. If she starts screaming again she might want to feed again. :no:

Then she's still waking up around 1am for a feed (I don't wake her, I'm trying to get her to go as long between feeds as possible), then again around 4am and 7am. So all in all she's having less than 8hrs sleep a night. And 3x 45 min naps in the day. Not long enough!!

On the upside I've spent the last 2 days sorting through baby clothes/shoes as a friend brought over bags and bags of her little girls clothes for A. So she now has an entire wardrobe with bags and bags packed away up to size 4! And 48 pairs of shoes!! :eek: Ill never need to shop for her again!!

Now, for some personals.

Deking- No, haven't tried a woombie, what are they? How big do they go (age and size wise?)? A is almost too big for most of her wraps and in our bed she sleeps completely unwrapped no problem. I am also the only person who puts the tree up/down (well J helps put it up, but not take it down). Think I did it on Valentines Day this year!!
Good on you for standing up to your MIL. I would not be happy about sleeping over anywhere (unless we went to Canberra to see B's family as thats a little different) on Xmas eve. I love to just have a few hours in the morning with just us before all the grandparents and aunts etc make it crazy. When I was growing up, my relatives mostly live on the coast so usually it would just be us and our parents and I liked it simple like that!

No good about the migraines. Are you dehydrated? I've been getting heaps lately and I think that's why. Good luck with the rod. Let us know how u go.

Elleandmum- Lol at your nappy splurges! Xmas is a great excuse! Glad E is settling better.

Sammi- I'm also hopeless with humidity!! We went to Vanuatu for our honeymoon and I got off the plane and nearly died!! Was only 30º or so but 90% humidity! Yuck!

Soexcited- Yes we are doing santa pics with A & J. Don't normally but we did for J's first xmas so will do for bubs too. Not sure when though. :hugs: for the MIL, she sounds like a pain in the bum!! Some people have no idea!!
Enjoy the Xmas party night off honey!

Staceylee- Ooh donut cake sounds sooo yummy!!! Your video is so cute!! DH watched it with me and we both laughed so much!! Sorry to hear you've been unwell. Hope you are feeling better today.

There's no way H is fat! I think A weighed 7.4kg at around the 3mth mark and haven't weighed her since, but thinking she's at least 8kg by now.

Babycart- Wow, you're hosting a dinner a week after you arrive in perth? That's nuts!! Enjoy the non-rolling while it lasts!! She will get there!! Hope your supply picks up! I go through days like that too, usually when she has been feeding off me all day and I feel like I've nothing left!

Sandy- Thanks for the tip, yeah we don't help her sleep initially she self-settles but then can't resettle most of the time. Even with the patting etc, she just wants to chat and play and spit her dummy and laugh while we get it back to her. So frustrating!

Lukie- Sorry to hear B has been sick. Hopefully she makes a miraculous recovery with all the good antibodies in your BM! B does sound a lot like A with her evening wakings!

KM- Massivest of :hugs:, glad you finally found a nurse to listen to you (and shame on those who didn't...). I'm so sorry that you feel that way! I can relate to it a little as I have been feeling a lot like I need time away from both kids lately and it's just not possible. But at least I don't have to work..that would suck big time. Can you take some time off your work at all? Good luck with the counselling honey, let us know how u go we are always here. :hugs:

And she's gone back to sleep. Yay, it's not even 10pm yet!
Big weekend coming up for us, tomorrow is our first night out childless since she was born. My younger sister will be babysitting them and i think she is more excited than I am about going out! It's just a work farewell thing, then on sat night my BILs 30th which my whole family are going to but I have expressed and will be having more than just 1 drink for the first time in over 12mths. Mum doesn't drink so I dare say she'll probably watch A when she isn't sleeping as we're all staying at my older sisters place.

Lukie

27-11-2009, 08:41

babycart- so sorry you had a bad night- hopefully it was a one off? Will you try solids again, or wait a while?

OJ- "the only traveling we will be doing is to the beach" :thumbsup: Sounds good to me!!!

soexcited- yes, you read right- that does mean we didn't get to go out for our anniversary- my friend's kids were sick so she couldn't look after B, plus B started getting a cough on Sunday night so I probably would've called it off for that reason anyway. Who knows when we will acually get to go out, now we have to reschedule. I wish we had some respite in the evenings as would love to feel adult and go out past 7pm (if she was one of those babies that went down for a long stretch of sleep first thing of a night) but it is not to be at the moment. Thank God my mum came over yesterday (although she has been sick the past week, I figured B is already sick so how much worse could it get?)... B was pretty good, still had a few tearies but once I cuddled her was able to put her down near mum again and have her entertained so I could have a cup of tea and darn some socks (I know! This is how I spend my "me" time!!!).

Nic- Oh my gosh- our babes are in cahoots! Just was B has been doing lately. I also have been sleeping her unwrapped in bed with me (DH has to take the couch cos B is a bed hog when she is unwrapped- she sleeps like a starfish!). I had her unwrapped in her cot for one of her daysleeps yesterday but I have to spend 10-15mins with her, holding her hands- they just keep going to pull the dummy out, even though her eyes are closed, until she falls asleep. Last night was awful- if I hadn't had my mum over for an hour in the afternoon to give me a break I really would've gone nuts the way B was carrying on. It went like this- Bath and boobie at 6pm- asleep at 6:30pm. Awake crying at 6:40pm! Tried to shush and stroke. More boobie. Calmed to a wimper, but she kept bringing one arm up to scratch her face, or the other arm up to pull her hair, or pull the dummy out, then would let out an almighty cry! And the whole thing started over. She was "sleeping" in our bed, so I lay next to her and I fed her every 20mins until about 8:30pm. In the meantime, I tried to run out to the kitchen to chop some onion and get a risotto going in the rice cooker cos DH was due home at 7:30 and he said he was feeling sick so I didn't want him to have to cook. I chopped the onion and some of my finger with it :dizzy: Anyway, in the end I held her on her side smooshed up against me and rocked my body and hers back and forth for a while and shusshed loudly for a while and I don't know what happenned and who fell asleep first but DH came in at 9ish to say he had made some scrambled eggs and did I want some, bless him!

Anyway- B just woke up- can't believe that was 50mins already! I'm off to the doctors with her now- her cough is still so chesty and seems to be more frequent so I want to make sure it's nothing serious.

As for our sleeping arrangements- I don't know when B will be able to sleep alone again so have decided to move her cot in our room and have a side-car thing happening. Anyone else doing this? I'm not sure whether her cot will line up with our bed, the height I mean.

SammiAnn

27-11-2009, 14:04

Afternoon girls,

Thought I'd attempt a quick post before we head away for the weekend.

Sammi- Hi, nice to see you again! How is A going with his feeding and sleeping?

Hey hun! I hope your still staying in your nice cool spot. As for the pics in the posts, I have NO IDEA!!! I think I read a post on another thread a while ago about doing it but cna't remember sorry, I think kotakai is the one to ask! She always has the most gorgeous shots of her babe in her posts.

As for feeding and sleeping with Master A, he's fitted into the house routine very well. BFing is still going great and he's down to a quick ten minute turnaround which is kinda nice considering how hot and sticky it can be. Our day is broken down like this:

5:30 - 6am-ish ~ Wake and watch sports news with Daddy.
7am-ish ~ Feed and off to bed.
8am-ish ~ Wake in time to take biggest sister to school.
9:30am-ish ~ Feed and off to bed.
11am-ish ~ Wake and play (aka. Mummy keeping me occupied).
12:30pm-ish ~ Feed and off to bed.
2:30pm-ish ~ Wake in time to collect above mentioned sister from school.
4pm-ish ~ Feed and off to bed.
5pm-ish ~ Wake and play.
5:45pm-ish ~ Have solids.
6:15pm - 6:45pm ~ Bath, massage, feed and bed.
3am-ish ~ Wake for feed and straight back to bed.

Apologies for the lots of 'ish's in there!I don't want it to be too strict so when we have jobs down the street or morning/afternoon teas out he's not too structured.

Can't wait to see Master Z in his xmas outfit! I bought one for A from Target last week and am itching it put it on him... maybe tomorrow for our playgroup xmas party...

Many MANY (((hugs))) for the migraines, not good at all hun.

Just a quick one from me, will do personals later. E is continuing to settle well, and sleeping through most nights. We've only had one early wake up this week, and DH took her. She woke up at 3.30am not 4.30am.

Yay for you and bub's routine! Well done you clever thing :yelclap:.

She is in relatively good spirits considering she sounds like she is coughing up a lung or two, except for her cranky outburst yesterday afternoon but some panadol fixed that quickly.

SAmmi- glad you're back! I agree about the play- its exhausting sometimes.

Poor Miss B, A has a cough ATM too. I feel so bad for the poor little things when they cough. Hope it goes soon for her. And I agree, doesn't sound like she's too keen for the solids yet. Enjoy those nice clean hands for a little while longer!

So glad it's not only me that has to be playmate!

H weighs 7.4kgs at 4months and one week. She is just over the 90% range.

She is gorgeous and from her pics she doesn't look that heavy at all! She's adorable and is in no way fat, I really dislike it when people use that to describe a baby, ugh! You're doing a great job hun.

Good idea on the cereal in the mornings SammiAnn. I gave O some pumpkin in the afternoon and he just farted all afternoon and cried with tummy pain and it was so hard to get him down. He ended staying up to 9pm crying and unsettled. I could not believe it...considering I had cooked and mashed heaps of it and frozen into cubes! But the cereal is fine.

Poor babe! I'll start A with pumpkin next week, I didn't really plan to start with banana (besides the usual rice cereal) but there was a nice one on the bench and I put into one of those mesh feeders and he LOVED holding it and sucking the mush out (I didn't enjoy washing the manky banana out so decided to add it to the cereal instead!). I'd much prefer they have veges before they get too used to the sweetness of the fruit, hence why I start with plain cereal and add the banana for the last spoonfuls. Hmmm... that was a bit off topic, sorry hun, just talking about the pumpkin reminded me! I do hope you have a nice cool place to hide on these horrid days.

My apologies to all, I have been reading but not posting, life is a bit of a mess at the moment so feel free to skip my rant.

I'm so glad you found someone to listen to you. You are a great Mum and you are doing the right thing by seeking help. Best of luck on your journey hun and be sure to keep in contact. You mean a lot to us all here :hugs:.

SammiAnn - :wave:

:wave: right back at ya babe! And have a great night tonight! You sound like you have it all under control, enjoy!

Sammi- I'm also hopeless with humidity!! We went to Vanuatu for our honeymoon and I got off the plane and nearly died!! Was only 30º or so but 90% humidity! Yuck!

Oh dear Nic! What is Miss A thinking with a night routine like that??? You are doing a great job but seems the little rat loves your company too much. I really hope she breaks it soon for your sleep sake! Sounds like she'll have plenty of shoes to keep her hopping!!!

Yucko on the humidity!!! We had our honeymoon in Perth, it was LOVELY. We plan to take the kidlets back there one day (DD1 was a honeymoon bub ;)). We always joked that if DS had taken longer than 18months to be conceived we were going to ahve to have a second honeymoon there!!!

Take care of yourself hun.

BIG 'hellos' to all you other wonderful July Mummies out there! Hope you are doing ok and your babes are being nice to you.

Rightio, I finally have that all typed out so I'd best be off and finish baking and packing. Have a great weekend girls and take care of yourselves, you are wonderful, amazing women.

Sam :santa:

PS BabyCart, how is bub going now with solids? I hope your supply is improving. I haven't been able to express much so have been drinking nursing tea which has helped. Best of luck hun.

Lukie

27-11-2009, 15:01

Good news is B checks out fine, and I have a script for antibiotics if chesty cough persists for more than two days. Bad news is DH is on his way home early- sick!

Meant to say too- nic- that is awesome about all those clothes!!! Two of my mum's friends have granddaughters whose hand-me-downs we have been getting, only up to size 0 so far- but I love it each time we get a bag! They're good, hardly worn clothes too- Pumpkin Patch, Esprit, etc. It's so much fun!

babycart

27-11-2009, 20:49

Hi Everyone,

want to do a few personals first:

KM - sorry to hear that you are feeling a bit down and glad that you are speaking to someone about it. I can empathise a little with what you are feeling. Miss S is another babe who won't take a bottle, meaning (.)(.)'s need to be available constantly....it can be really limiting and suffocating knowing that you can't do anything for any amount of time because 'you have to feed the baby'. i hope things improve real soon :hugs:

Sammi - yes, i had given S the rice cereal in the mornings first and then switched to the evenings. I so jealous of your routine. i think i might start a bit of a diary so that i can map S's sleep/feeds and work out what i do different on good/bad days...i still feel like i'm winging it. i suspect that she needs to be sleeping between 9.30-11.00am, which of course is when i want to take her to mothers group and play group....:detective:

soexcited - hope you are enjoying your Xmas party and definitely agree that it is inappropriate for drunk mummy to be getting up! DH should also be cooking you a nice greasy fry-up on Saturday morning if he wants you to be functional

Nic - after reading about A, my first thought was (and it won't be a surprise to anyone) that she is caught in a vicious over tired cycle. Is it possible at all to move her bath/bed time even earlier? I find I need to get S in the bath by about 5.30pm most days, and the later I do her night time routine, the worse she sleeps. If she does wake up after one sleep cycle, i usually try to keep her wrapped (unless I can smell nappy) and jsut give her a quick top up. My golden rules are: keep it quiet (this includes no talking), keep it dark, keep it quick. Does A have any music that helps calm her down??? if you don't already, maybe get her a music box....works well for S. I hope her sleep gets better soon

DH, S and i (even though i grew up in Brisbane) also suffer in humidity....last week when we were in Qld, S was re-named McSweaty

Have a great weekend - sounds like it will be a busy one

Lukie - yes, S improved after her bad night. I have kept giving her the rice ceral of a night and she is eating it really well. I might trial some pumpkin tomorrow - wish me luck!

Hope B gets better real soon and same for your DH - you don't need 2 sick 'babies' at home :laughing:

ok - that's enough from me. was up late last night, so need to:sleeping:

take care

AC

elleandsam

27-11-2009, 21:12

Can't be a big one but I just wanted today to KM - :hugs: I'm also struggling with PND and I found it so hard to admit to. But when I started talking about it, then I started feeling better.

AFU - E is now doing well without her wrap. She rolls over onto her tummy a lot and quite regularly I go into her room and she's on her tummy with her feet hanging out the side of her cot talking and giggling to herself. She slept 8pm-6am last night :D and hopefully will continue sleeping well. 4 month needles went well not nearly as fussy after this lot as her 2 month jabs.

DH and I are going to Guylian restaurant for lunch tomorrow so I better get some sleep :wave:

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

27-11-2009, 21:31

Babycart- Thanks for the idea, might look into a music box or something. My only worry is that it might be something else for her to become 'hooked' on? DS had a Thomas The Thank Engine tape (like one of those audio stories) when he was 2ish and would not go to sleep without it and as soon as it stopped he'd wake up! So that's my hesitation in that! Can't move her bedtime any earlier cause we still only have 1 car so I have to pick up B from work at 5pm. It's so annoying cause I do the school/work run in the mornings then A has a nap, then another quick one after lunch then I put her down at 2pm and she fusses and chats away and often doesn't get to sleep till about 2:30/2:45 and I have to wake her at 3:10 to get J from school. She really needs to go down at 5ish also but it can't happen with picking b up. So frustrating!
Am thinking that I might just give solids a go even though I really didn't want to start early. She is a big bub so maybe she just needs something more to settle her?

Ellenandmum- Whats Guylian? Is it like the chocolate? ;)

Lukie- Sorry bub and DH have been sick. Hope you can get some rest in yourself and that you don't get sick also. Big Big hugs for the sleeplessness. I don't know what is with our girls! Sometimes it seems as though A just wants to either be awake and looking at everything or wants to socialise when she should be sleeping. Is B the same? I did the same thing the other day re:feeding and accidently falling asleep and waking up after dinner. Nice to get sleep in where possible! Hope your finger isn't too bad!!
Cot thing sounds like a good idea. I can't see A's cot fitting beside our bed so wouldn't work for us. Also the design of our bed kind of juts out at the top of the base so there's a big gap before the mattress starts so wouldn't be safe for us. Let us know how u go! Might be a really good way to transition her back to the cot.

Sammi- Awesome routine! Where are you off to for the weekend? have fun!!

Does anyone else feel like their baby is too cheeky for their own good. I feel like A knows when she does something she shouldn't and giggles about it. Not that it isn't adorable, but it also drives me nuts!!
She has the dummy-spitting game which she thinks is hilarious. She also rolls over all the time when trying to get to sleep, and a few times she has gotten her leg caught in the cot rails and cried. But tonight when she did it and I went in and rescued her she laughed at me like it was a game. :rolleyes:

Went out to dinner with B tonight for a work farewell and had my sister babysit for a few hours (our first outing without her). Well 2 hrs cause A was unsettled and crying so we had to go home. Tomorrow night is my BILs 30th in Albury so have spent the day making potato bake!

Square777

27-11-2009, 22:19

hi girls
Z is sleeping and its hubbys early night off work, so have a few quiet minutes to myself!

Nic- Hope you enjoyed your night out, even if it was cut short. I have to say, Z isn't that cheeky ;) but he that boy is so easily stimulated. YOu know how some people's babys will just sleep anywhere? Well not Z... has to be wrapped, out of any noise, people etc. If he can see people he is watching watching watching taking it all in.
www.thewoombie.com.au (http://www.thewoombie.com.au) Z is in a big baby size, although i'm not sure how much longer for. One reason i'm hoping to get him out of it is i don't want to buy the next size up, I think Z is about 8 kg roughly and long.
And about xmas morning... I just know my MIL wouldn't be able to help herself but take over like she does with her other grandson...w e only ever did xmas morning with just me sis and mum and dad and thats how it should be i reckon.
perhaps you could try getting A down for a sleep around 4ish... even half an hour would probably help?

Elle- How did you get E out of her wraps? I tried Z with one arm out for a few days... it was terrible... had to hold his arm, tehn as soon as he fidgeted (he's very fidgety) he'd flap it all about the place, wake up, big scratches on his face. I'm too scared to cut his nails... after the last time i cut him and made him bleed :(
And am now using his woombie.. I think it is such a sleep cue for him cos we put it on and he does big smiles, and generelly relaxes into it.
is that a chocolate resteraunt... sounds right up my alley!

babycart- i too find that time of morning is when z sleeps, and i'd like to take him to local cyh just for measure etc... but i don't see the point of ruining his sleep if i don't have to. Hope the pumpkin goes down well

Lukei- glad B is ok. i have Z's portacot next to our bed, it has a bassinet level... but to be honest he spends most of his time in our bed. his proper cot won't fit in our room

Sammi- just put A in his chrissy outfit just for fun :D its so cute! You sound so organised... must be hard when you have children of all ages and daily needs that you have to work around. I prob will never give Z banana... I HATE it!! I eat nearly everything, but banana is one thing i don't like.

Soexcited- enjoy your drinks and chrissy dinner

KM- so sorry you're having rough time. I really hope you get that break and there is someone you can leave your girls with that will allow you that peace time that it sounds you so desperately need. And working must make it doubly tough. :hugs:

Oj- hows your foxtel addiction going lol! hope O is in more of a routine, how is the self settling going?

Well we seem to have stumbled on a semblance of a routine... not quite sure how, its not always smooth, and if we go out his sleeps are mucked up.

Z wakes for feed 6-8
if its early will got back to sleep, if not will get up.

back for sleep about 9-10 with daddy ( he sleeps in cos he works til 2am)

wakes between 11-12 play with daddy (mums time for shower and cup of tea)

sleep at 1-2

wakes at 2-3

i try to get him down for a sleep around 4, unless he has a big sleep til then.
wakes about 5ish

then bath around 6

solids after bath ( have skipped them last couple of nights, has slept much teh same)

tehn boobie and bed.

i generally feed him when he wakes from sleep, and feed him at sleep time too during the day.

The last week or so, he wakes about 11 for feed, 1, tehn goes til morning

but nights just vary so much in when he wakes, if he'll resettle and if he needs feed.

I tend to put him to bed in my bed, tehn have my tea, tehn go to bed with him. Then he wakes for feed and we both fall asleep, so hubby rewraps him and either puts him in portacot or leaves him in our bed when he gets home from work.

i must say that most of the sleeps, day and night, are resettled once or more times.

Poor boy, tonight he did massive spews. all his feed, then did another one which was quite yellow... i thought it was bile-y but think just old milk. poor bubby, but he went to sleep ok after that and has been sleeping since. He also hasn't pooed since tuesday, generally its every 2nd day so hoping he's storing a big one up for tomorrow.

as usual... mammoth post... been told i dribble too much lol

off to bed for me... have tried to load pics of Z in his chrissy outfit.. I'll try put them on the facebook group page.

night night

Square777

27-11-2009, 22:36

oh i missed stacey- sorry :) I don't think H is fat, nor is Z for that matter. He has rolly legs mind you! But I do get annoed when people say oh he's so big, he's so fat etc... he's not fat at all, its just his legs... its liek people having a go at something oyu can't control anyway, and he is healthy... I don't normally get botehred by what otehr people say... mind you its my MIL who says it a lot! grr

I had my implanon in yesterday and a pap smear... great start to a day... NOT! but now its done!

sandy119120

27-11-2009, 22:56

:santa:
Hi, I cant believe chritmas is here....a year ago i was just find out i was pregnant (of course i didnt know it was a girl) but i was also started to feel quite sick. But all good i got my little princess :yelclap:.

KiashMum - Lotd of :hugs: im glad someone listened to you. I hope counselling helps and that there are meny options and alternative for you. have lot of rest get your DH to help you with bub. take care

Nic - Seem little A loves to be close to you as the only thing to seem work well is (.)(.)s. i hope she settle very soon i dont have more ideas i wish i can help you more.

elle - I know it is not easy to admit to it. i didnt do it for 4 years and that was bad. It actually feels better once you share with people and the reality is many people had sufered from PND. I also find out they are groups out there where mum goes with their babies and all of them have sufered from PND.

SoExcite - hope you have a wonderful time in your party =].

Lukie - hope DH get well and bub too. take care of yourself too sending you lots of hugs.

Sam - like that honeyMoon idea just i have to have it in sydney or melbourne.....have a wonderful time this weekend.

OJ - MM i understand your foxtel addiction i also have that =]. Hope bubs is settling ok now.

Deking - i cant wait to see Z pics!!!! love that.

BabyCart - Hope ypu have a good night sleep.

Hello to all gorgeous July mums out there take care of yourself!!

AFU - we are doing ok Mis M had her shots today seh has been ok so far just a few panadol but all good. She is sleeping all night now but during the day she is a bit of mess just sleep wherever she wants to. Im feeling much better im trying to chance my way of thinking so help my recover but im very greatful to the people who helped me i have my energy back and im starting to enjoy my family and live.

ok that is all for me

elleandsam

28-11-2009, 07:10

Nic - Guylian is the chocolate restaurant :smiliedance: I've been once before and I can't wait to go today! And yes, E is also way too cheeky but she's just so adorable we let her get away with it :laughing:

Deking - I just stopped wrapping her, she was rolling and getting herself tangled in them so we let her be free of them and now she just sucks her thumb until she falls asleep, it's just too cute.

Sandy - I also found this round of shots to be a lot more bearable. I was expecting to be woken several times during the nights but E still slept right through. She was very cranky at her last feed but that could have just been tiredness.

AFU - Guylian today :yelclap: I can't wait. We're putting our Christmas decorations up tomorrow as DH has to work Monday so we won't be able to do them as a family is we wait until Monday. :santa: Yay for Christmas.

Other than that, E is napping, her last round of needles went well. I went for my very first driving lesson yesterday and that went well. I am looking forward to my next one next Thursday.

staceylee

28-11-2009, 09:23

Hi girls I will tey do some personals while H is happy. She is having a chat to to hippo hanging from her playmat.

Elleandmum - Glad to hear the driving lesson went well. Cant wait to put up our :tree: maybe during the week. Busy weekend here again.

Sandy - So happy to hear you are doing better and M's doing ok after her shots. Strange to think this is around the time we found out we were expecting! We would have only just have told my parents this time last year.

Deking - Doesnt sound like a fun start to the day. I hate it when people say H is fat. She isnt! She has just growen faster then some and most are catching up now anyway. It gets to me most when people compear her to a NEWBORN baby! She is almost 5months old you moron!! :banghead:

Nic - I know what you mean about bubs knowing more then they let on. H giggles when she farts, it cracks me up. She also giggles when she spews all over my work clothes or the couch. Drives me nuts! She will do this thing at night where she will scream like something is wrong when she is in bed so we go rushing in there and looks at us smiles and then giggles like a mad woman! Hope you have a lovely time at BIL's birthday.

Sam - I really dont like it either when people comment that H is very big for her age or say she's a fatty because she is healthy and happy and there is nothing wrong with her size!

Lukie - Hope bub is on the mend. H has had a nasty cough for over a months now and I have taken her to the doctor's about it so many times. All they say is its just a virus hanging on longer then normal or its nothing but it sound horrible.

Ok thats as far back as I can see. Hope everyone else is doing well.

AFU - We are all doing well. H is sleeping well. Was a rough week with being sick and working and taking care of bub. Happy its the weekend not that things have stopped or anything. H has been going to the chiro which seems to be working. Apart from that not much else has happened here. Ok well in off to do some christmas shopping bub free. Have a great weekend girls. Its 22deg here today after it was 37 yesterday.

Lukie

29-11-2009, 07:00

stacey- i tried posting while B was on her playmat next to me- she just kept grizzling til I gave in and went to play with her! Glad H is easy going in that department!

elle- where is Guylian? Haven't heard of it. Is it like the seashells guylian?

sandy- glad to hear things are going well for you again :thumbsup:

deking and stacey re weight: I had B weighed at the docs Fri and she was 7.5kg (dressed). She was 6.6kg at the beginning of the month. Anyway, the receptionist said, "Wow, she's a big baby" and when I questioned her about this (in a friendly way, cos she's a lovely lady so I knew she didn't mean anything by it) she said that B looks mor like a 6month old. Haven't had her measured but maybe she is tall? I do get that a lot but as you can see by FB photos, she doesn't look that big, or does she?

deking and nic re cot- technically her cot won't 'fit' in our room either. It will mean pushing the bed to the wall, getting rid of the bedsides and tallboy and turning the bed around 90degrees. Hate to mee up our room like that but I would really like to sleep with DH again. I'm not sure whether or not to do, I really don't know- and I didn't think of it NIc but our bed has some wood before the matress starts too :(. Last night was shocking (in bed with me from the get-go as her room was so hot again!), I can't remember how many times she woke but at least 4 and probably more like 6! Twice crying and other times just fussing. I don't know what to blame it on? Heat? Her cough? Teething? Why can't my baby sleep :dizzy:??? Just as well I fell asleep with her at 7pm and never got out of bed again, otherwise I would be very cranky today. I don't get it, I really don't. I hope it's a one off.

deking- I have been feeding B when she wakes and when I put her back to sleep too. Your routine sounds pretty good! Good job Z!

Nic- yes B is a big sticky beak and I meant to sa- also gets very chatty after a poo just like A! Thankfully for me it's usually around 5am rather than in the evening and if I can't get her to pipe down then I just get up and start the day then.

babycart- lol at McSweaty! B is very sweaty too!

More from us- Have given up on wrapping- I have B hold her muslin in her hands, scrunched up in a ball on one end and the rest is shoved under me, or if she's in her cot then I have it down in between the cot rails so she doesn't get he whole thing on her face. I use it to try to distract her from the dummy though even with her eyes closed and half-asleep she still tries to take it out!!! It's just too hot and even if I only half-wrap B she still sweats like crazy and I'm worried about her over-heating so no more wrapping.

Also, B rolled fromtummy to back every day for a bout a week but nothing since. She's ok on her tummy for a few mins , she looks around, but then gets bored and thats that. She hates being on her back unless we are very excitedly playing with her, but if she's playing by herself she will last 5-10mins under the playgym and then no more. She wants to stand up A LOT and she likes sitting too, but by herself more than in Bumbo. Think she might be one of those walk before they crawl babies?

Going out to get the anti-bitocs for B today- her cough is not imporving and the Dr said these things can't be left to go on too long. Anyone know what he means? I figure if a chesty cough goes on too long it can lead to bronchitis? Esp. since baby can't cough up the mucus? B is coughing it, she gaggs poor little girl, but she still sounds just awful. Hate to give her anti-biotics but it's been a week and no signs of improvement.

DH is horribly sick- so whilst I am grateful that I am well, I am sooky cos theere goes my weekend. I can't have any sort of break from B as he doesn't want to touch her and give her his germs, totally understandable, but when will I have a break? The past week has been awful- I wouldn't say I have been depressed but I have felt like there's nothing to look forward to. Like every day i just get up and do the same thing and there's no relief in sight- not even at the end of the day cos B has been waking up so often after bedtime. Have been housebound cos of the heat, haven't been able to take B out walking, and didn't want to take her to the shops for a stroll as the air-con gets blasted there and didn't want to make her more sick. Hopefully the next week is better. I have a few outings planned.

That's the end of my ramble...

staceylee

29-11-2009, 13:17

Lukie - B doesnt look big to me. She looks perfect. I have had people say H looks like a 6month old to. I like to think they say it because she is so alert and interactive and advanced for her age :laughing::laughing: but thats just me :laughing:
I hope your DH is getting better so you can have a break. It gets relly hard at times hey. I had a little meltdown today because H spewed on me this morning and has done every morning for the last week. Just feels like Im not doing anything right and had a big cry to DH telling him I want my mum and shes not her and I need her nad that Im not cut out to be a mum :o Feel silly now but was good to get it out there.
I hope the ABs help B. Take care hun :hugs:

elleandsam

30-11-2009, 07:01

Lukie - Guylian IS the seashells chocolate, and they have a restaurant at circular quay in Sydney, and one at the Rocks. They're the best.

AFU - I got a sleep in this morning :smiliedance: 5.30am :laughing:

E went very well with her 4 month needles. She's sleeping well, eating very well, and laughing and blowing raspberries more and more and more.

Now, for me, DH ran over my foot with his car on Saturday :mad: it was him being silly and pretending to drive away each time I went near the car, I was putting the nappy bag in the back and he ran over my foot and it hurt like nothing else. It isn't broken, thankfully, but I am still a little mad at him. He feels really bad about it.

Christmas shopping is all done and the tree is up :noel: secret santa gifts are sent, and now I can avoid the shopping centres for the majority of the horrible season.

soexcited

30-11-2009, 11:14

Nic – yay for all of the clothes and shoes. I know you were trying to avoid going onto food before 6 months but maybe worth it to see how she takes it? Only you can know what she is ready for so if you don’t feel she is ready then she is probably not. Hope you had a great Saturday night and enjoyed your drinks! Sorry to hear your Friday night got cut short.

Lukie – hope B and your DH are doing better now. Sick baby and a sick DH are not much fun.:hugs:

Sam -hope you had a lovely weekend away.

Babycart – how did the pumpkin trial go? Hoping maybe it was the magic formula for you. :fingerscrossed:

Elleandmum – E really seems to love her rolling! O barely does it all. Sorry to hear about your foot! Hope it is feeling better soon. My DH plays that trick on me sometimes so I will have to tell him what happened to you.

Deking – poos every 2nd day- you are so lucky!!! I remember them telling us that breastfed babies can go weeks without pooing. Ever since birth we have been stoked if O goes a few hours!! Ha ha Can’t wait to see Z in his Christmas outfit :xmas:. I am sure he looks adorable.

Sandy – so glad to hear you are starting to feel better hun. :hugs:

Stacey – you are right - H is gorgeous and advanced for her age! You are a great mum. H always looks so happy in her photos and wouldn’t do so if she didn’t have such a wonderful mum. Hope you are realising that today and are feeling a little better :hugs:

Hi to everyone else.

Christmas party – had a great night, got home between 1am and 2am and had a couple too many drinks – but not really that much compared to the old days. Had a massive hangover Saturday morning and the old lady in me who had a good time just didn’t think it was worth it. I couldn’t feed O until late Saturday afternoon cos had to make sure it was all out of my system. Couldn’t really play with him Saturday morning because of my pounding head. Didn’t really have much to do with him until 2pm Saturday arvo when I took him to my brother’s school fete. It madder me think I could have gone and driven had 1 or 2 wines and just enjoyed them and not had that massive headache in the morning!! DH was really good tho and made me pepperoni pizza Saturday for early lunch and took care of O. Plus he told me Saturday that he finally had a true appreciation that although O is a really good baby it is a big job taking care of him all day.

Anyways enough babbling on about myself :ecomcity:, really should use some of O’s sleep time to actually do some housework!!

soexcited

30-11-2009, 15:29

Deking - just realised you have already put your pics up of Z on fb - sooooooo cute!!!!

Square777

30-11-2009, 21:41

sorry girls justa quick question from me... will pop in tom for personals

Tomorrow will be a week since Z has pooed! He's never gone more than 3 days
Last week he had farex a couple of days, but i stopped that on wednesday, I also had nurofen plus and panadiene forte for my migraines

He's not seeming particularly botehred.
Yesterday i gave him some brown sugar water
and today some diluted prune juice
but he didn't have a huge amount of either
given him tummy rubs in bath and cycled his legs etc

he doing stinky farts... but no poo!

What else can i do and when should i be worried??

staceylee

01-12-2009, 08:21

Hey Deking I did the same when H hadn't done a poo for a few days because she used to do them every second nappy. I rang the CYH helpline and they said that if she is still passing wind then things are still moving through but if I was worried give her some cooled boiled water. Hope that helps. Maybe give them a ring and see what they say?

sandy119120

01-12-2009, 10:42

Hi everyone a neww month today :santa:
DeKing - I suggest you going to the Doc today or give them a call they would tell you what to do, is better that way as it can be dangerous id left for many days. Hopefully they would tell you waht to do.

lukie - I dont know why people forget every baby grows differently, your baby looks just fine mine is the same as you and i actully considere her small compare with my boyes they were 9 kilos at 4 months very big, but then at 1 and half they became thiner and they are very healthy so dont worry, your gorgeous baby looks just fine. Hope DH gets better soon.

Soecxited - glad to hear you had such a good time :thumbsup:

Stacylee - Had a happy shopping , glad this week has been better for you.

ABout chocolate restaurant MMMM love it!

AFU - Miss M is not rolling yet well no wonder she doesnt want to be flat a all she does everything else she doesnt seems to be into it. she moves around her playmat and grab things but not rolling.
I had a pretty difficult weekend my 3 y0 had gastro i havent been able to do anything coz he is not well at all. I hope it gets better soon. im off Mia want attention :laughing:.

Have all a wonderful and not too hot day.

Square777

01-12-2009, 13:56

hi girls, still no poo for Z :(

sandy- I'm hesitant to take him to dr yet as he doesn't seem too botehred, I'll try the things I know before going there. Z rolls sometimes if he feels like it... mainly back to side then tummy. Hope your boy is better soon

Stacey- CYH will be my next call.. I went on website and its all stuff I've been doing pretty much, will just do it more. And I figured as he is still farting, there was no bowel obstruction etc and he was still having movement. Hope yu're all enjoying the much more pleasant weather now, while it lasts!

soexcited- thanks I think he's pretty cute too.. not biased at all lol! glad you had a good night out.. you probably needed it to remind yourself why you don't do it often lol! I'm such a cadbury at the best of times... I had a half a beer couple of weeks ago and that was enough for me :o

Elle- I want to hear all about that chocolate resteraunt!! Hope you had lovely time.
BAD HUSBAND, BAD HUSBAND!! ;) Cant believe he did that... some men just never grow up! I have one too... he thought it was funny putting the new vacuum on my head.. Until it wound round and round the bristle brush against my head! NOt imrpessed, lucky SIL was there to unwind it or would have had to chop it off. I swear some men are children forever!

Lukie- hope the cot move goes well and you get some better sleep. You sound liek you're doing so well, I would have had a massive hissy fit by now if I had been going through what you have relentlessly. I love your idea about letting B hold her muslin as she drifts off... I will have to try it. Z is very tactile too. In typical man style he's taken to grabbing himself down there anytime its free!!:laughing:
I have to tell him NO and take his hands away cos he scratches himself to bits cos he grabs and pinches himself.

ok can't see back any further.
Hubby and I got back on the horse successfully last night, so that was good. It didn't hurt my scar at all, so i think the last time we tried must have been too early, even though it was 3 months.

Z sleeping.. I should be doing housework, but this way more fun lol

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

01-12-2009, 14:58

Hello friends! :wave:

So happy as A slept from 6:30pm till 2am, then fed at 5:30...so only 2 wake ups all night and 7.5hrs sleep which is a new record for her!! I can't remember who suggested putting her down for an earlier nap but I was able to yesterday (DH finished work at 4 rather than 5) and I think it worked! She is only just having her first proper nap today would you believe (and it's 2pm) as we have been shopping and she slept for 10 mins or so in the pram but she must be exhausted!!

Putting the Xmas tree up with J this afternoon so hopefully will have it done when she wakes up from her next nap. :tree:

Sandy- sorry to hear your DS has been sick. Hope he's feeling better and noone else gets it! I wouldn't worry too much if M isn't rolling as long as she is mobilising in some way and has good head control etc I'm sure its all good.

Deking- I don't know about the poo thing TBH. A has only had 1 poo-free day ever (that was on sat) and today she's been about 4 times. I suppose you'll save money on wipes and nappies though? ;) In all seriousness, it can be perfectly normal for BF bubs to go a week or more between poos. I just googled it and a site I came across written by a paediatrician said anywhere up to 10 days (and sometimes more) is normal and that constipation is super-rare in BF bubs (he actually said he'd never seen a case of it). I think if he were constipated he'd be in pain or fussing so if he's happy and content then all should be good.

Soexcited- Lol at your big hangover! I didn't drink much at all TBH, I had a couple of cocktails and then drank zibbibo which is hardly alcoholic at all (a whole bottle is 3.4 drinks..lol). Thought I'd have one drink and practically collapse but wasn't the case at all. I gave her EBM at 9pm and 3am but by 6am I couldn't be bothered and was pretty sure I was all detoxed so I fed her (had stopped drinking at 11pm). Have noticed though that ever since then my boobs seem full all the time! I expressed once at 11pm when she was sleeping but it didn't seem to make a difference, they still feel slightly engorged!
Have my work Xmas party on fri night and not sure if I'll have a few drinks or not. My mum will be watching A but i'm just not sure it's worth it to express etc, seems like so much effort!

AHHH!!! :hair: Will have to leave it there and return later on to finish. My mum came over, then I got J from school and now trying to construct the Xmas tree with him while A is screaming and refusing to nap.

PrincessPillar

01-12-2009, 22:27

hi deking,
i just had to post a reply to you as this subject is right up my alley! my bubba miss A poos rarely and always has since 6 weks on the dot, the longest was 17days and man were her farts rank by then, i took her to emergency dep as i got worried even though 1 book i read said BF babies are fine up to around 3 weeks, i only took her coz i thought she was getting a bit of pain from it, they gave her a suppository even though her tummy felt soft and there wasn't excessive amounts when she did go, since then her average is 9 days but she has done a couple of 14days too. Bf only babies can go ages and then when they go not do heaps and heaps though it does stink more than more regular BF bubs! YUCK!!! but if bubs has started on rice cereal i would feel the tummy and make sure you can't feel the loops of the bowel which would show a blockage, and stacey is right if they are passing wind all is good and there is still flow there, you can try tummy massage in a clockwise direction as that is the way the bowel flows. also massaging bubs anus with a little vaseline or oil(avacado or olive oil is fine) i've even heard to put an cotton bud with a little vaseline on it up the bottom only a cm r so and wiggle around as this stimulates the lining of the bowel and sometimes stimulates a bowel action. i never found any of it to help and she always went when she was ready. they say BM contains really only what they need so they use it all and don't need to poop much out. i think thats true in our case as A is still petite so gets whatever she can outa my milk and doesnt poop much, i obviously don't put much fat in my milk coz she's tiny compared to some. i wish BF would take more of my fat and give it to her as i wouldn't mind a chubbier baby and a little less chub on me! i wouldn't even mind a few more poopy nappies if that were the case! :laughing: anyway i hope this has helped put your mind at ease, i know when i didn't know what was going on it was all i could think about and the first time she went by herself after having a suppository i cried coz i was so happy she could go by herself without help! poos are still a novelty in our house but makes being cloth bummed a dream! hehe one other funny story is my little bro, who eats quite unhealthily(young guys) only poops once a week and thought that was normal so he says she takes after him!

BFN!!! hope you get a poop!

:wave: to everyone else!

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

01-12-2009, 23:28

PP- Just added you to the FB group... took me a few days to make the connection!! :doh:

Lukie

02-12-2009, 06:59

Nic- oh my gosh! That's fantastic! Did you get a repeat performance from A last night? So happy to hear you had a good night!

deking- lol at Z and his tacticle ways :laughing: ahh, little boys! And lol... I read your post as "Hubby and I got back on the hose". I read the whole paragraph and tried to make sense of what you were saying- thinking in terms of gardening but then wondering what scar you were talking about, how did you get a scar while gardening? LOL- I am not awake yet! Good to hear it.

sandy- B not really rolling except just a few times. LIke you said, I guess they all grow differently!

soexcited- your DH did well! And making you pizza too- wow- that's wonderful to be taken care of like that!

elle- hope your foot recovers soon. It happenned to my sister a few years ago- her foot went all black and blue, ouch!

AFU- DH still sick! B not coughing as much but still congested. Hanging out for next weekend when we can return to normal hopefully!

As for sleep, two nights ago was horrendous- I was cold and uncomfortable while B slothed all over the bed. Last night was much better, I slowly shifted her across to make room for me. I love how bed time is such a non-event now- I either feed her lying down and give

Square777

02-12-2009, 10:52

lukie- oops... i'm the crappest typer ever... i don't look at what I write... I meant horse :o Glad B is getting better for you and giving you some room in the bed!

PP- thanks, I've pretty much tried all those things including the oil and bum lol, rung cyh today who said provided he's happy and tummy is soft then just wait it out, will keep trying sugar water if he'll take it. Who would have thought poo could be so all-consuming?? ha, but glad to hear he's not alone!

nic- yay for the sleeps!! Hope A is keeping it up, and glad the arvo nap worked. I find if Z doesn't have that 30 min or so at 4-5 o'clock, come 7 ish he's so overtired and much harder to get to sleep.
hope you got your tree up

ANd on exciting news... Z slept through!! Hooray!
8.30 til 5! Woke at 1 ish, but was just grissling a little so put dummy in a few times, and then he must have gone back to sleep, cos I woke up at 4 thinking, wow he's gone all night! THen layed awake for the next hour, wondering if he as going to wake up lol, not being able to sleep :D

I don't know about oyu girls with bubs who still feed at ngiht etc... but don't you get sick of everyone who tells you when they find out your bub doesn't sleep through
Oh mine slept through at 4/6/8 weeks! I feel liek saying well whoopy doo!! Aren't you lucky!

And I don't mean you girls on here... I mean more like MIL's ;)

Ok well Z having a big nap... hopefully brewing a poopoo!!

off to find some chocolate for breakfast!

Square777

02-12-2009, 14:21

hooray we had bowel movements! So relieved lol

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

03-12-2009, 09:09

So we bit the bullet and started rice cereal last night. Thought we might give it a go since I gave her one breast and she was still ravenous (she normally doesn't even finish one in a sitting). Only gave her 1/2 tablespoon (the box said 1tbsp) to see how she'd go. Expected a lot of spitting it out and face pulling but she loved it! She scoffed it down, kept chomping on her little spoon and cried everytime I took the spoon away to get more! She ate the whole 1/2tbsp and then I gave her some more BM but I think I might go a whole tbsp tonight as she could have easily eaten more. How much is everyone else feeding their bubs? is this too much too soon?

Put her to bed at 6:30 after her food and she woke again at 7:15 crying (i think she had a bad dream) then cuddles and back to bed till 3:45! :smiliedance: Which is her longest sleep ever, so very excited about that! I think I may be starting to see the light at the end of the long tunnel. :fingerscrossed:

Deking- glad u got your poo! :laughing: Was it really gross after a week? And yes, those ppl annoy me so much! One of my FB friends has a baby who slept 12 hrs/night from birth. I can only imagine!! Yay for horses- hope you didn't fall off!! ;)

Lukie- LMAO at the gardening reference! Hope your little family is getting better, think we have the colds here this week too, A is coughing and snuffly! Hope B allows you to get some more sleep soon honey. :hugs:

PP- I hear you on the wishing bubs would take fat from me! I have PLENTY to share with her (although in all honesty she doesn't need it either), I suppose if I wasn't hungry and eating all the time I might lose weight BFing. Ahh well!

Lukie

03-12-2009, 14:14

I had hoped to return yesterday and finish my post- notice I posted midsentence (actually got DH to click post cos I was settling B and he needed the PC)- but the day ran away from me. Today has been a bit the same, so will keep this brief:

deking- no no, you did type horse- I can't read, and mis-read it as hose! Funny funny! So glad for the poo- am also curious what was it like? B has never missed a day of poo, bar the first week of her life when we had her on formula for two days. On the sleep issue- keep having my sister try to fix the problem for us- have you tried this? Have you done that? Why don't you try vegetables instead of rice cereal? Why don't you masage her before bed? She is very well-meaning but I'd just like to have a whinge about a bad night without having her try to fix things.

Nic- once again congrats on the sleep- A sure sounds like she was hanging out for food from the way she lapped it up! I'm going to hold off a while longer before trying B- she's still not really interested, Dh put some yoghurt on her lips the other day- she frowned...

Urgh, B awake after just 25mins! She doesn't sleep for long unwrapped by herself, but it's so s hot again! GTG.

babycart

03-12-2009, 14:55

Hi everyone,

gonna try and make this a quick one, as have heaps to do for tomorrow's Christmas party....mostly just cleaning the house and backyard, as the food/drink etc is all catered.

Miss S has been a bit sick for the past couple of days - sniffles and cough - hopefully passes soon and isn't anything too serious.
I've kept her home from Playgroup and Mothers group so that she (I) can rest up

he doing stinky farts... but no poo!

Glad to hear the poop is back. Have noticed some loud and stinky farts from S this week too....would put her Dad to shame

Lukie - Guylian IS the seashells chocolate, and they have a restaurant at circular quay in Sydney, and one at the Rocks. They're the best.

Now, for me, DH ran over my foot with his car on Saturday :mad: it was him being silly and pretending to drive away each time I went near the car, I was putting the nappy bag in the back and he ran over my foot and it hurt like nothing else. It isn't broken, thankfully, but I am still a little mad at him. He feels really bad about it.

Guylin restaurant sounds yum!!!

Hope your DH is spoiling you big time to make up for "nearly killing you by running you over".....i would be making my DH feel so guilty :p

Babycart – how did the pumpkin trial go? Hoping maybe it was the magic formula for you.

I've tried S on pumpkin on Tuesday and Wednesday and she hated it:barf: first mouthful she spat out, second she choked, third she spat and fourth she choked. so not sure if she just doesn't like it, or if she is being a bit fussy because she is a bit sick this week and not sleeping well. I might try her again next week when she is feeling better

Hello friends! :wave:

So happy as A slept from 6:30pm till 2am, then fed at 5:30...so only 2 wake ups all night and 7.5hrs sleep which is a new record for her!! I can't remember who suggested putting her down for an earlier nap but I was able to yesterday (DH finished work at 4 rather than 5) and I think it worked! She is only just having her first proper nap today would you believe (and it's 2pm) as we have been shopping and she slept for 10 mins or so in the pram but she must be exhausted!!

So, so glad that Miss A had a nice big long sleep for you!!! Is there any way that your DH can finish early all the time??? or get a ride with a friend etc so that A can go to bed early all the time???

ok - enough from me - gotta get back to dusting...i swear...big houses suck...just means more housework

AC

staceylee

03-12-2009, 18:03

Hi Ladies! Will try do some personls while Miss H is sleeping.

Babycart - Hope S is feeling better.

Lukie - I thought the same thing about the hose/horse thing till I re-read it :laughing: So you are not alone. Hope B and DH are feeling better.

Nic - Yay for the sleep :smiliedance: Hope it continues for you guys. Love the pics on FB. She is soooo beautiful!

Deking - Yay for the poo. How funny that lack of poos stress us out :laughing: H used to poo all the time almost every hour or so but now only a couple of times a day or a few times every couple of days. It turns out she was pooing all the time because of her intolerance. All good now though.

Ok thats as far back as I can see :wave: to the rest of the lovely mummies.

AFU - H has been a little rabbit at night. SHe still sleeps through but now wont go down till 11 some nights. SHe just talks and giggles to herself when we put her down at 8-8.30.
It was my birthday yesterday and I had a lovely day with Miss H. Went to swimming and did some christmas shopping then went out for tea with DH. H say in a highchair, she loved it! Thought she was queen of the world. Would turn her head whenever anyone spoke to her :laughing: Little snob. THen we went tenpin bowling with my brother and SIL. Was heaps of fun.
Had a little sook today because I didnt get any photos of me with H on my birthday and that we dont have many of me with H as I am always taking them of Dh and H. Spoke to DH about it and he said he will make more of a effort to take pictures of me and H. Silly I know but I would like more of me with H.
Put up our christmas tree on tuesday. Looks lovely and wrapped most of the presents just have a couple more to go and Im done. Only 28days till we go to Tassie :smiliedance:
Also is everyones bubs on soilds? We havent started H on them yet as she doesnt look all that interested but wondering if we should offer it to her? We have just uped her formula as she is in the next bracket now. Should I wait till she finishes off the bigger bottles to offer them to her? So many questions!!!

KiahsMum

04-12-2009, 00:38

Staceylee - We were recommended to try solids for Sarah early as she has reflux otherwise paed said he wouldn't recommend until 5.5 - 6 months. Tried her and she pushed it all out twice so giving her a few more weeks. If it wasn't recommended by paed due to her issues I wouldn't have tried until 6 months, DD1 was 6 months when we started and worked well as that was when she was ready. Just trying to say don't stress if you haven't started whilst they can say from 4 months the WHO guidelines say 6 depending on if they seem ready for food.

Babycart - Hope you got all the housework done! I am glad we bought a one storey place, a bigger place would be a pain! We have enough issues keeping this one clean with a toddler hehehe

Elle - Hope your foot is healing well and DH is being a saint for you as he should be to make up for it!

MMMM chocolate for breakfast *drool*

Nic - SOOOOOO glad to hear about Miss A's big sleep!! Here's hoping there are many more!!

AFU - Firstly my HUUUUUGE thanks to everyone for their lovely supportive comments they really do mean a lot to me. Part of this is a huge feeling of isolation so knowing there are people out there who care means a lot *HUGE GROUP HUG*

I saw the counsellor and have been referred to a PND specialist counsellor who comes out on Monday. My MCHN is keeping a good eye on me, she is an angel, the first person who has paid any attention to this for me so I am so glad they sent me to her instead of the other two I kept getting. I have also booked in for a birth debrief as there are issues with me dealing with my second C/S which is contributing though the counsellor I saw the other day said there is a chance this is a stress reaction more than PND thus the specialist on Monday. Just trying to keep rolling on with everything and not lose it at the moment, hopefully Monday will give some more answers and advice.

Hope everyone is well and enjoying their bubs!

Lukie

04-12-2009, 08:02

Stacey- if it wasn't for my desperation over sleep I wouldnt have tried B on solids this early. The three times I gave her cereal, well- firstly she didn't take much, and I guess as a consequence- it didn't really improve her sleep. So am going to enjoy not having an extra plate to wash up :p for a while longer... She loves the boobies and DH says she is a clever girl for wanting to be exclusive to the boobies for as long as she can ;).

KM- glad you are finally getting some good support. How is Miss Sarah doing?

babycart- dusting (other than washing up) is the bane (sp.?) of my existence! We have fairly new carpet so as soon as I dust and walk away, the dust resettles on everything! Though we have a small house...

Well B and I are going out to dinner tonight with some friends from church- a little xmas party- DH has his work party on which I would've loved to go to, but no babies allowed :(. I had a good sleep last night, B slept pretty well (I was engorged on one side- this is how I can tell! lol. Also I am not yawning as much as usual!) in our bed so I am looking forward to dinner.

Happy Friday all...

elleandsam

04-12-2009, 08:17

Babycart - we live in a small house and there's STILL too much housework ;)

Stacey - we started E on solids because she was losing interest in bottles and more interest in food. Since we started giving her something to eat for dinner her interest in her bottles has peaked, she's happier and she's sleeping much much better at night. We included dinner as part of a good nighttime routine. Bottle, 15 minute play in her bouncer, dinner, bath, bedtime story and then bed. And she goes down to bed so easily after that. During her story her eyes are getting heavy and I put her in her cot, she stretches nuzzles her blanket and sucks her thumb, instantly asleep.

KM - good on you for talking about your PND. That's the first step. You're a great mum and you're doing a wonderful job.

Dekking - oh don't get me started on MILs. I stopped giving mine any information. I'm so happy that E has started sleeping through, but I'm sick of hearing that she's done it 'late' ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Babies don't come with a schedule of events. I couldn't give two hoots if DH slept 5-5 from 6 weeks on, good for him. E didn't, she sleeps from 7.30pm to anywhere between 4.30am and 7.30am. So she can take her 'she should be doing' attitude and shove it.

AFU - the foot is on the mend. DH is at work today and I'm missing him a lot. I'm having fish cakes for breakfast soon and E is having a nap. Christmas is only 21 days away :eek: :noel:

We're still sleeping through, which is wonderful. Eating well, drinking her bottles well, happy, growing, doing well.

Square777

04-12-2009, 09:23

Elle- Glad your foot is on the mend. Can't believe christmas is so close! But I'm really looking forward to our week away with SIL and another couple, fishing relaxing etc. (away from MIL is also a bonus ;) ) E souonds liek she is doing really well, your stay at Tresillian ? must have really helped.

Lukie- I have dust too.. although I'm not so inclined to dust lol! I'm really not much of a house wife in that department... its just not me! But I did buy a new steam mop which makes mopping the tiles SO much easier!! THey are the cleanest they've been for a while cos its still a novelty to mop the floor with it :p
Glad you had a better night... isn't it amazing how much better you feel with a few extra hours sleep?

Km- You're sounding a bit brighter hun, I'm glad to hear! How are your girls doing?

Stacey- happy belated BDay!! I know what you mean about no photos of you with H... most of hte ones with me and Z are ones I do myself when I'm being silly and not fit for viewing by other people!! There are only couple of nice ones of me with him, and hardly any when he was born cos i was in such a mess after his birth.
I haven't worried about solids again with Z, he's not sleeping any different with or without it... maybe just went to sleep easier at night but that was it.
If H is gaining weight well etc I wouldn't stress, especially with her intolerances would prob pay to introduce foods slowly? I no expert on it though.
Bet you're looking forward to your chrissy holiday too and seeing your mum :)

Babycart- you're abolsutely right, Z's farts would also put his dad to shame and that s saying something... cos my hubby is as feral as tehy come! Hope S feels beeter for you soon, and enjoy your party... don't clean too much!

Nic- Z's poo was actually much the same as before, it wasn't as big as i expected and same soft goo :o maybe just a littel thicker?
So A is much better on her solids? I don't think I'll bother with rice cereal again when I do Z, will just do fruit and veg I think.
But not sure when I'll be botehred, if i can delay it for few more weeks won't have to bother while we're away after chrissy... but not sure.

We have a wedding tomorrow for hubbys cousin.
Wondering if we take Z? MIL just says to take him... although i'm sure she has alterior motive but she can get lost of she thinks she hogging him all night!
Z is pretty happy and doesn't cry much... so I don't think he'll be any trouble. But is it rude to just take him without asking? I could leave him home with my mum and Sister... But hes never been settled by anyone else and when he's tired he really just wants me or hubby.

Z been a bit restless at bedtimes last couple of nights... and was a bit unsetteld overnight. Nothing that boobs don't fix but I'm not sure that hunger is necessarily the problem?

Not sure if he is teething, has has a white ulcer on his bottom right gum, but I don't think i can see or feel anything... but i've put some bonjela on tehre anyway... he smacks his lips its pretty funny.

Bit off his sleeps as well... so who knows?

Anwyay, off to see some friends today

Oh and my wii fit came... will have to get time to play that too :)

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

04-12-2009, 10:21

Babycart- Ahhh I hear you on housework! I would say my house is moderately sized and it still doesn't all get done! We have 2 living areas (one is a formal one and the other more like a family one) and I don't bother with the formal one as we never really use it unless we have guests etc. At the moment the Xmas tree is in there and all the boxes from the decorations are still out!
As long as I have the dishes washed and at least some washing done in a day it's all good. I hate cleaning when she is asleep because I want to do other things and I don't want to wake her but when she's awake it's hard to cause I have to take her room to room, so annoying!
Good luck tonight!

Stacey- I'm the same as Lukie, we bought some rice cereal out of desperation and I thought I'd let it sit in the cupboard for a few weeks till I thought she was ready, then the other night when I was feeding her before bed she just wasn't satisfied and seemed ravenous so thought the cereal might help.
She's only had it 2 nights now, and last night she fussed about and didn't sleep that well (went down at 8ish, woke at 11, 3am and 6am). I think it's because she was overtired when we put her to bed (we went late night shopping and santa pics) so will be more careful next time!
But yeah, I really did want to hold off till 6 mths but I felt she needed something more as she was always waking an hour or so after feeds looking for more food etc. If H is in the next formula group she's probably fine as long as she isn't looking for something else.
I've also noticed that A has been really curious about what we were eating, she tried to take a chip out of my hand yesterday and looked quite cheated when I ate it instead! :laughing:

Lukie- Yay for better sleeps! Hope u have a good night at dinner!

Kiahsmum- Glad to hear u r seeing a specialist, hope you get a defintie diagnosis soon so they can refine treatment. I agree with Deking, you sound much more positive and happier. :):hugs:

Deking- I just read your post about Z being unsettled and 'nothing the boob won't fix'...well same here this morning. A has just refused her nap and screamed for an hour and a whip out the boob and 'voila!' Shouldn't be hungry though she fed 2hrs ago! I'd just check with DHs cousin that its OK or maybe his aunt or something if they r involved?
Steam mop sounds good, can u do my place? :laughing: Does it work on floating floorboards?

E&M- I agree about your MIL! Mine is pretty good and doesn't get too involved which is nice!

Will be back later, have to post my secret santa gift! :santa:

kotakai

04-12-2009, 12:14

Hi all :wave:

You probably don't even remember me it's been so long :laughing:

Bubhub is really driving me crazy at the moment though. I can read 1 page, then when I try & click onto another page it freezes. I have to shut it down & start all over again :geek:

I haven't tried to catch up as there's way too much, but I'll do my best to keep up from here. I hope you're all going well & those bubbas are behaving.

Cruz is now just over 6 months. I can't believe how fast it's gone. He's going great. You wouldn't know he was 7 weeks early to look at him, he's a total chubber :smiliedance: He was just over 8 kgs at his 6mth needles.

We started on some solids the other week. He's on 1 a day still, but I'll probably put that up to 2 next week & see how he goes. I'm using the rafferty's garden ones & he'll eat half at a time. I didn't bother with the rice cereal. None of mine have liked it & I can't say I blame them!

Are any of you in western Sydney? I responded to a post about a hills area mums group & they meet up on a Monday from 10am-12pm at different places each week (like parks, cafes, play centres etc) I've been twice now & the ladies are lovely. There's a range of kids too, so that's good. If any of you want to come let me know & I'll give you the ladies details who organised it.

Has anyone had a santa photo yet? I'll be getting Cruz's done next week. I wanted one of the 4 of them, but my 18mth old is a bit freaked out by him LOL.

Is everyone organised for Christmas? I love Christmas & can't wait to give the kids their presents. Cruz is the same age Chais was last Christmas, so he won't be getting much baby type stuff as we already have heaps.

Well I better go & get some housework done & I promise I'll try & keep up better.

:santa::santa:

michelleand2girls

04-12-2009, 12:21

Hi Ladies,
It has been a while since posting although I am on FB all the time. I have my paretns staying for 9 weeks from Cyprus, had Elliotts christening and my other daughters 6th birthday all in one weekend!

I love reading what you are all up to and how the bubs are going.

Nic- your stories are hilarious, I hope A is sleeping better now, if the baby rice isnt going down so well, I mixed a little bit of pureed pear for more flavour for Elliott and she loved it.

Elliott is only just 6kgs but has 5 bottles of 180mls a day plus two solids at breakfast time and tea time, I give her solid at 5pm, then a bath and wind down time and final bottle at about half 6, seems to be working.

Babycart - house work is so overrated, I try and get mine done then stay out of the house as much as poss so it doesnt get trashed again.

Deking - Elliott is going through clingy phase already and wotn let anyone else put her down to sleep! aarrghh!

Hold on - Missy E has woken be back in a min, hope i dont lose this!

OK back again apparently we have had enough sleep for today!

AFU - we are officially TTC again! hoping to get a boy so any tips would be good! I only had 15 months between my first 2 daughters and although it was crazy they are great together now! I have told DH that I will get my tubes tied after this as I hate the pill and really dont like other options. I know this would definitely be my last!

Is anyone else trying yet?

well i have to get washing hung out now and then walk the dog.

hugs to all, I plan on getting more involved with personals each time, so sorry if i dont include some of you, will try harder next time

Michelle

PrincessPillar

04-12-2009, 21:25

michelle- congrats on TTC, if you are trying for a boy get the billings method book, they have done huge studies on how to get what you want. their theory is that the boy sperm are faster and weaker so if you want a boy you have to for starters know when you ovulate or are fertile and wait til later in your fertile time(roughly 4 days) all the signs are listed in the book, so then the egg is right down close to the cervix, then the boy sperm reach the egg first coz they are fast, the girl sperm are slower but stronger so if you want a girl you DTD the first day you notice fertile signs and then the egg has only just been released from your ovaries and coz they are strong but slow the keep on swimming til they reach the egg higher up in the tubes. the boy sperm are long dead so cant reach the egg when it's only just released. anyways the book is good and helps you understand your body better which is never a bad thing. most bookshops stock it, i think i got mine at angus and robertson. hope this helps and you get your boy! ;)

oscarjessie

06-12-2009, 07:19

Hi Everyone,

I have been so slack in posting but I promise I read every night!

Will try to do some catch up on personals/ themes...

Needles - we had our 4 month needles last week. The little champion was excellent. A good cry when they went in but recovered pretty quickly and has hardly been affected otherwise.

Solids...Well we were going great guns but when we went to the Dr for the Needles and he got weighed etc we got told not solids until 6 months because he is so big...well that makes me think he needs solids! He is 8kg, 69.5cm long and 45cm head. His head is off the chart but his weight and length is about 90 -97th percentile. I am waiting until Christmas and then will get him going on them again as I have to get him ready for Childcare. He is not fat...just very long and a little chubby with a BIG head! Ha ha

Re planning for Christmas...we are almost done. Have to work on menu but have the Inlaws here a week before so will do it together then I think.

Re TTC - OMG you guys who are trying are very brave! A few more years for us I think.

AFU - DF goes away today for work for the week so am feeling sad. And I am stacking on the weight! I am dieting this week! We have been eating so much junk food over the last week so I am cutting it out this week. And I have been having the odd glass of wine at night so need to stop that too!

Anyway...hgave to run..there is a baby talking to me upstairs....sorry for the slack response...I am slapping myselgf on ym hand.

Sassy75

06-12-2009, 18:38

Hi ladies...been sooo slack again after promising last time to be better. This wedding planning is just taking every spare moment of the computer time I get (which is not much).

I really need to read back and catch up so no personals sorry.

Archie has done a 360 of late. He is still a delight and such a happy baby but he has just hot 4 months and decided that he no longer likes to sleep. He goes down around 6ish but waked like clock work at 10pm a and will not settle without a feed. He then wakes again like clockwork around 2.30am and again will not settle without a feed. We've started solids...just pureed carrots and a few other vegies and some rice cereal. He open his mouth and gulps the spoon and literally will eat a whole bowl if I let him. But he STILL wakes up for feeds!! He will then wake again at 6am and start talking and blowing rasberries in his cot for a while and then if no one goes in he starts to grizzle. I feed him again and then he goes back down until about 8ish.

What happened to my sleeping baby???? :confused:

Does anyone else's bubs wake up crying in their sleep a lot? A howls with his eyes shut and only needs the dummy put back in but it freaks me out a bit.

Hi to everyone I don't chat with on FB :wave:

Will try to be a better bub hubber :yes:

PrincessPillar

07-12-2009, 12:45

hey girls :wave:- i'm just wondering about these lactation cookies i've seen you talk about, can someone tell me where to find the recipe please!? thanx in advance!
hope everyone's christmas shopping is nearly done! :santa:

Lukie

07-12-2009, 18:59

Sassy- yep, B stopped sleeping well around 12weeks and its been a struggle ever since. Last few days have been really off, if I miss her tired window and she gets beyond it it is crazy! We are co-sleeping day and night, still very hit and miss, even with me right there next to her- at night she sometimes wants a feed, sometimes just fusses for ages. :confused:

PP- not sure but others such as Sammi and Cassii have used them- though I'm sure the other ladies could point you in the right direction- maybe the breastfeeding section of the forum?

AFU- bad bad BAD day with B. Enough said, I'm going to bed. :dizzy:

michelleand2girls

07-12-2009, 19:50

Hello ladies

Just thought I would share something with you,
as it seems there are a few unsettled bubs amongst us. I have a great book called Baby bliss by Jo Ryan. Basically at the age of our babies you follow the principal that they should only be awake for a period of 1 1/2 to 2 hours at a time, that includes feed time and playtime, then they should nap for 1 1/2 to 2 hours. It also has some great tips on settling techniques too. She is really good about routines being flexible and created to suit the parents.

Anyway thought I would share that, whilst it came to me.

:flowerz: michelle

soexcited

07-12-2009, 20:09

Hi Ladies

I have been reading but not posting. Now I figure if I leave it any longer to post I never will catch up so am just going to go with what I can see tonight.

Lukie - :hugs: - I really hope you get a better night and day soon!

PP - not sure but I have used fenugreek to increase my supply and that worked pretty well. I also made sure I drank heaps of water and was expressing at least an extra 180mls per day.

I haven't put much of a dent in my Christmas shopping but am hoping to get started tomorrow.

Sassy - understand how much time wedding planning takes up. Plus it is so much fun!! O had a few bad nights recently and we pretty much doubled his night feed (vegetables) and he went back to sleeping through. But he was also looking for more when DH finished feeding him at night.

oscarjessie - hope you don't miss your DH too much. Although I always find I eat heaps less when DH isn't around so maybe that will help if you are trying to watch what you eat. ;)

michelleand2girls - good luck with the ttc. We are hoping to start probably after April next year. O took a while to conceive and we had been trying for a while and decided to have a break so weren't aiming for anything at the time. Everything PP said is what I read though when we were trying.

kotakai - we got Santa photo done last week. O wouldn't smile but he didn't cry so I just accepted that and he looks stunned in his photo. :laughing: We have been trying not to go too crazy with the CHristmas shopping but have gone way overboard considering he won't have much clue. My mum has bought so much it's a little insane. She still spoils up kids so you can imagine how much the first grandchild is getting.

nic - saw your facebook status. Hope your day got better. :hugs:

deking - how was the wedding? Did you end up taking Z?

Elleandmum - stop it with all the food updates on fb, you're making me hungry! :laughing: Glad E is doing better with her sleeps and food.

That's as far back as I can see so hi to everyone else.

AFU - slowly preparing for Christmas. Each day that it gets closer is another day closer that I have to go back to work which I am really dreading. O slept for 11 hours last night from 8pm until 7am (pity the dogs woke me up to be fed at 6am!!). But he had formula for his night feed. I had had a couple of glasses of wine whilst having a lovely Sunday arvo putting up the Christmas tree and probably would have been fine to feed him but didn't want to take the risk - figure it's not worth it plus we had a fair whack of frozen EBM so I thought we might as well use it before it goes off. I took it out of the bottle warmer to put the adapter and the teet on and it slipped out of my hand and spilled all over the bench. Not happy! :no: By then O was getting abit anxious and I knew it would take a while to defrost and heat some more so we gave him formula (he has formula occasionally as this is what he will have for his day feeds when he goes to daycare so we don't want it to be a massive change for him). DH of course suggested that we switch him to formula for his night feed but I said no. It's not like I am getting no sleep - normally he does about 8pm to 5amish sometimes 6 which I think is excellent as it is. Plus I know there is a chance that once he starts going to daycare and having formula for his day feeds that my supply might dry up so I am going to keep up the bf for as long as possible. I had to laugh at DH though - he doesn't wake up to him so what difference does it make to his life?!

staceylee

07-12-2009, 20:46

Hi girls! I will be back to do personals tomorrow. Have a sick bub who wont go to sleep. She's not grumpy just unsettled and has a temp. DH is with her atm. Just want to share a few videos with you lovely ladies of my lovely Harper Grace :bee:

http://picasaweb.google.com/harper919/HarperGraceNovDec09#

I hope it works. Night all :reindeer:

Lukie

08-12-2009, 13:30

Just came on to tell you all I am having a much better day today- i feel like I whinge and moan about B all the time that you must all think I have a little monster on my hands and that I hate being a mum (am I projecting? :p). Well she has been a much happier baby today and slept for 2hrs before so I did half the ironing and managed to watch some Frasier and Seinfeld. Just put her down for another sleep earlier and she fell asleep without any fuss and I have just had lunch and now a cup of tea. :cloud9: Here's hoping the rest of the day goes even half as smoothly...

soexcited- your DH sounds lovely! :thumbsup:

stacey- I love bouncing on the bed with daddy! That is so funny and sweet! We just got a dig camera that does movies with sound- I can't wait to take some of B- she is very chatty in the mornings, so funny!

Off to do some more ironing and tv watching...

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

08-12-2009, 15:58

Kotakai- Wow 6 mths already! That's crazy talk!!

Michelle- Hope u are having a great time with your parents visiting. ;) Saw the pics of E's christening on FB, just so cute!! How exciting on the TTC front, I think PP is right, both my boys I've conceived right on O day whereas A was a day or two before my pos OPK (so probably 3-4days pre O), not intentionally just happened that way.
Just wondering if that book has ideas of babies who catnap? A will only sleep 45 mins and then wakes up refreshed, laughing etc. So annoying!

OJ- I think that doc doesn't know what he is talking about? Anyway I read somewhere (and I think it might have been the ABA site) that breastmilk has more calories than solid food anyway? Certainly has more fat so I think it's true. I think A is 8kg (weighed on my scales with me) but I don't think she's that long, she's usually around average for her length just chubby!!

Sassy- yay for wedding planning!! Archie's sleep patterns sound heaps like Amaya's (but hers have actually improved to get to this point..lol). Hope it's only temporary for you though and you are back in the sleeping-through land soon!

PP- There's a thread in the BFing section on the cookies. Or you can just google 'lactation cookies' as there are a few recipes around (but they are mostly the same and they all contain brewers yeast). I used them not sure if they worked or not as I gave up and started using maxalon at the same time.

Lukie- Sorry yesterday was yucky, glad today is better. We all know what it's like honey and there's no way that anyone thinks for a moment that u don't love her or want to be a mummy. It's just very hard, there are times I wonder what on earth I'm doing particularly of late!

Soexcited- Sounds like O sleeps really well!!! What veges do you use, or do u make your own? I'm wondering if we should start trying some veges since she likes the rice cereal but isn't filling up on it.

Stacey- OOh, hello Harper!!! What a cutie pie!!

Not a great deal happening on my end. A is just so off these last few days, not sure if it's teeth or what but she is just clingy and I could hardly put her down today = no housework got done. She is loving tummy-time now she can move a lot and shuffles her way along the ground, not far off crawling I think!

soexcited

09-12-2009, 08:18

Hey girls

just a quickie from me as my computer keeps crashing (I have already lost one post :geek::hair:)

Nic we buy vegies and boil them and puree them and then freeze them (I have a pic of our current stock on FB). We did buy some organic jars as a back up for if we go places and to get an idea of what percentage of each vegie to put in. We froze in the avent storage cups (because my lil tank is already eating double the little baby storage cubes :laughing:) and DH labelled them all and did them progressively. At the moment we are doing pumpkin, sweet corn and potato. Each next batch introduces a new vegetable (I think sweet potato is next). We have also done a whole bunch of fruit for his morning feed under the same system. Ok, better post this before I get the blue screen of death again ..

elleandsam

09-12-2009, 08:46

nic - E has been off a bit as well, I don't know if she's got teeth coming in or if it's a growth spurt but she's started waking up early for a feed and not sleeping much at all during the day but being so cranky unless I'm holding her :hair:

soexcited - we do something similar except we don't really freeze, we just give her a little of whatever vegetables we're eating but we don't season them. So far she's had pumpkin, sweet potato, potato, parsnip, broccoli, peas, carrot, avocado, apple, pear, peach and cereal.

AFU - The last few days E has started waking up at about 3-4am wanting a feed. She's also drinking about 1LTR of formula a day and rice cereal for breakfast and about a three tablespoons of two different kinds of vegetable and two tablespoons of home made custard a night! (ECHN suggested that making custard was perfectly fine for her) So I've pulled out Tizzie Hall's Save Our Sleep and I'm going to give it another go. I don't really care about the sleeping through the night, the couple of weeks of sleeping through was enough of a pick me up to keep me going, but I'd like her day sleeps sorted. She settles quite well, which isn't the issue, thank goodness!

Well Christmas shopping for me, my family and E is done, now I just have to finish shopping for DH. Who also has his birthday on the 21st :eek: I know he's getting me a sewing machine for Christmas which I really need to start my business next year. So far I've gotten him a bath mat and a DVD, don't know what else to get him.

And E is awake again after just 40 minutes :gloomy: she was in her baby push up position smiling at me meaning no chance of settling back to sleep. How can she run on so little sleep :(

The Fox

10-12-2009, 16:04

Hi everyone remember me lol, I havent posted in a while things have been a little hectic atm
For about the last fortnight now Oliver has been teething really badly, he was waking up within the hour of me putting him down at night and nothing would calm him down, he even refused the boobies it was horrible, we have been using the brauers teething relief and that has helped alot but we are still getting woken up about every 4 hours though which is when the dose wears off :no: arghh but i would take that any day over last night, me and Oliver are both a sick which makes things very hard and well last night Oliver would wake up, have boobies for half and hour, go back to sleep for ONE HOUR, then repeat, this happened all night on the dot, it was really really hard, i felt so bad for him obviously something was bothering him
I had to get my mum to come over today which she was quite pleased about, she watched Oliver while i slept, i got a 3 hour sleep it was magic, and mum even cleaned for me lol, what a god send that was
i think his night time waking is that much harder because he has been sleeping through the night since he was about one month old
Ive had enough of teething, 6 bottom teeth have all moved up and are sitting right under the gums now, i tell you, if they go back down again i think i will go insane, he has two that are about to break through though so im hoping that once that happens he will have some relief

Oliver is doing really well now, we have had to cut out Dairy, eggs, nuts, soy and wheat completely out and he has been soooo much better, he weighs 6.3kgs now so he is filling out nicely, he seems so big now, and he giggles his head off now its really cute

How is everyone's bubs going on solids, Oliver has been on them now for a month although up until recently i was very diligent in giving them to him, i only did it because the pead said i had to lol, well since we have started them more im finding every vegetable constipated him and makes his poo hard, pumpkin is ok and turns his poo like a loose soft play dough but everything else makes is rock hard, sweet potato, even green vegies, i think i need to up his water intake, i had to give him prune juice at one stage because his poo was that hard, does this happen to anyone else, im thinking maybe i should add a bit of prune juice to his food

well im sorry this has been a very me post, havent been here for a while i feel like so much to catch up on
everyone seems so organised with christmas, i havent even started lol, ooops DF and I are the people you see shopping frantically on christmas eve lol

Sorry for no personals, i will be back more often now so i dont fall so behind again