Low Tech Gender Swaying

[mumof 2boys]

Just thought i would start this for anyone interested.

I really wanted a little girl after 2 boys and decided that i would find out everything i could to make it possible. Knowing in my heart that it really didn't matter which gender bub was but i wanted to try.

I found a great website with lots of info on it. At first i was thinking this wont work but after reading ao may ladies stories i quickly changed my mind and thought what have i got to loose. At the end of the day i wanted another baby be it a boy or girl. So i discussed it with DH and he was all for it too.

Anyway to make a long story short for us it worked and i am currently 29 weeks pregnant with a little girl :smiliedance:.

I am more than happy to tell anyone that wants to know what it involved or pass on the website i found.

[littleleos]

hey mum of 2 boys thanks for starting this thread, my hubby and I are going to start TCC next month and would like things to swing in favour of a little sister for my little bubba boy.

please please spill the beans;)

[mumof 2boys]

I will do this in a few different posts as its long!!! I thought i better mention that this is not for everyone and you may get some side effects. I am just letting you know what i done and the info i have.

TTC a Girl

What you are really wanting to achive is a low PH level. I dont mean urine PH either. I mean the PH level of your cervical Mucous. I tested my PH several times a day in the week leading up to Ovulation and used the pHion strips i found at the chemist.

Digital pH testers are the best for testing pH. Then there are two pH strips you want to look for (if not buying digital). Alkalive (also called pHion found in chemists or some health food shops you want to ask for the PH urine strips) and full range (also called universal found on ebay).

CM pH test strips are read in 15-20 minutes (but don't read it dry)

Digital pH tester the pH is read right away- no waiting

How to retrieve cm….TMI!!! You reach up inside your V and with your finger you touch the cervix. Then you hook your finger and pull out. The cm on the tip of your finger is the one you want to test. The cm closest to your cervix is the most alkaline and the cm on the edges of your v is acidic. Wipe this on the pH strip (or on the digital pH tester wand) and wait for up to 10 minutes (no waiting for digital) depending on how much water is in your cm. If your pH strip doesn’t change and you have tried several times to test pH; this means you have low ionic strength in your cm (which means you NEED a digtal pH tester).

The girl diet!! I didnt do this very well, i did cut out banans etc and ate yogurt but thats about it.

Lots of calcium (milk, yogurt, etc.) (i am allergic to dairy so had to limit this)
Low salt intake
No caffeine ( i dont drink coffee so no problem for me)

You want a very low intake of Potassium and salt so limit bananas, potatos etc and also salty foods. Dont add salt to cooking etc.
Organic milk has less potassium than normal milk.

You can find the full girl diet if you google it.

Drinks- Pure Cranberry juice i loved it and drank it all the time!!! Try not to drink your tap water as it generally has a high PH (test it with your strips) If its over 6.5-7 buy bottled water with no or low potassium and salt.

Aspartame-
One of the fastest ways to lower pH that has been discovered is with fake sugars. The best lowest acidic one is Aspartame. It does have some side effects. Some people are allergic to it so they can’t drink it. Others it may cause a headache.. this means to cut back. You can buy the fake sugar at the supermarket and mix it with water (not the best tasting drink but it really works. This has been found to be the best drink mix because it lowers pH the best.
I drank 2-5 cups a day leading up to ovulation if i got a headache i would cut back the amount i drank.

[mumof 2boys]

The supplements

Supplements are to decrease cervical mucus pH. Studies show that low pH favors girl conceptions. The goal of the girl diet is to increase calcium and magnesium in the cm and to change pH; the goal of supplements is to change pH and make creamy CM. Here are all the supplements that I have heard of for ttc a girl. Granted there may be more. They key here is for you to find the right 'recipe' to make low pH with creamy cm with calicum mixed in- this is the goal. Remember.. it is better to take supplements in liquid form if you can find that because it is more easily absorbed by the body

SUPPLEMENTS
* Supplements amounts listed here are the maximum amount for you and dh. This isn't based on weight but more so on safety.

Calcium (1200 mg a day) take from af to O calcium in the cm helps to sway for a girl (to prevent low ionic strength cal and Mag ratio has to be 2 to 1. If you have a digital pH tester don't worry about this)
Magnesium (300 a day combined with diet!)take from af to O Mag. in the cm helps to sway for a girl
Folic Acid (450 mcg a day)** you can take more of this if needed and be safe!! Take all the time THIS DOES NOT SWAY! IT PREVENTS BIRTHDEFECTS AND PREVENTS MC
Acidilophis (2 a day) take from af to OThis is taken to lower pH. side effects: this is a funny supplment. Either it will lower your pH dramaticaly or you will raise it. It is different for different people
Cranberry (total of 1,500 to 10,000 mg fresh fruit equivalent a day if possible. This is based on equal to fresh fruit equivalent.. not amount on bottle. This part can be tricky. So, 10,000 ml equivalent to fresh fruit) take from af to O this is taken to lower pH side effect: cranberry can not be taken after O as it can cause mc. Cranberry is a blood thinner so if you already taking a blood thinner do not take this.

Husband take
Cranberry total of 1,500 to 10,000 mg fresh fruit equivalent a day if possible) side effect: blood thinner.. see above
Calcium (1200 mg a day) calcium lowers pH in dh and helps x sperm
Magnesium (300 a day combined with diet!)take from af to O

DH and I only took the calcium, magnesium and cranberry supplements in pill form.

You can Douche as well but i thought this to be too much of a health risk to myself after doing more research into it so did not do it.




Refresh and Replens




Replens: pH 2.8


Rephresh: pH 4-5

Replens is now used for replens finger. Rephresh is used as a lube.. HOWEVER if your pH is already a pH less than 5 do not use replens, you can use rephresh as a lube when bd as it has the right actic acids for ttc a girl. rephresh has a pH of 5 you want the pH to be 4-4.5. The higher your pH the higher the pH of rephresh will be as it is a reactive lube. where as replens is always a pH of 2 point somethingPLEASE TRY THIS AHEAD OF TIME TO SEE HOW IT EFFECTS YOUR pH!! For some women they will raise pH. For the 1/2 hour after attempt if you want to lower pH with with this you need to use rephresh; not replens.

*If you use Aci-jel, then use it just like replens.


Replens finger. This is for women who want to lower pH the days before bd time.. Every other day bd make sure your hands are clean and then you dip your finger in replens or refresh. Then, sit down on the toilet and insert your finger with refresh and pull out. If tested right away your cm should go from high to low (7 to 4-4.5) and stay that way for a long time. You would use this every other day to lower your pH.



These can be found can be found at most supermarkets and most chemists.
I used Aci-Jel which i got from my local chemist it cost around $32 for a tube with it you get an applicator which makes it easier to use. I used 1 applicator full every 3 days leading up to Ovulation then a 1/4 before BD and 1/4 30 mins after BD. I didnt always do the one before BD just depended on how planned it was.



LUBE


If you need lube ttc a girl you have two choices. Either Rephresh (please read above) or canola oil. Lubes do not sway well for a girl on there own. You need to do everything else as well. Lube is just to help you bd.

Canola oil has a pH of 6.83 but it is an oil can can not sway. You can use canola oil right before your attempt to help you to get pregnant however some women's pH will raise become of this. So you NEED to check pH every 1/2 hour up to 4 hours and lower if necessary.

[mumof 2boys]

Other tips:
Lime douche and refresh/replens are being used to sway for a girl. So is Hot showers for dh and dw (lowers sperm count and lowers pH). Some people are using refresh/replens finger to lower cm pH. This is all based on an environment theory that an acidc one produces girls.. Also Oing will raise female pH so avoid this .For ttc a girl you should use the following products because they have been found to lower female testosterone (which favors boys) Nail polish remove, Nail polish, and anything with Aerosols.
For dh he needs to wear tight fighting underwear. He also should try to get on the girl diet and he needs to lower his semen pH to a 7-7.5. He can lower pH with cranberry supplements. His pH can be changed quickly with these- he should take as much needed the day before bd to achieve low pH . Finally, sperm count is highest in the morning so try to time bd at night. New info suggest that you want low blood sugar in the mornign when ttc a girl. So avoid carbs in the morning. Also cardio sways girl while weights sway boys. Finally, warm things sway girl and cold things boy (effects pH and ions)



The Moon

There is no doubt that the moon can sometimes have and effect on gender if ones body responds to it. Here is the scientific reason behind why this might be and how you can alter that effect if you need to. The theory is that a different sperm have different ions. Now when there is a full moon out it is scientific fact that there are positive ions in the air and we breathe it. When there is a new moon out there are negative ions in the air and you inhaling that as well. The theory is that some peoples bodies react to these ions just like nature does (Google crops and moon, or fish and moon). So when there is a full moon those positive ions cause your egg to have positive ions thus attracting the y sperm. Now if you are O’ing in a full moon you need to try to counteract the effects of the Postive ions. You can do this with running water, air purifires, rock salt deionizers to counteract the effects of a full moon or use magnate therapy using negative ions- polar north, and avoid computers or at least have a fan blowing on you while you are on a computer.




When to have sex:
O + 12
This has better success than cut off. Abstain from sex for 7 days or more, and then have sex 12 or so hours after you ovulate. Obviously, you have to pinpoint your ovulation exactly for this.

Shettles Method
Have sex least 2-3 days before Ovulating. Then keep your pH low till O.
Most important info!!!
First off, diet is the most imortant sway factor. But no matter if o+12 or cut off (shettles) you need to do this! Hour before your attempt check your cm pH. It needs to be 4-4.5. If not then either douche or use rephresh, replens or Aci-jel to lower pH. If you are not doing TBM then you may insert 1-3 ml of lime douche 5 minutes or so after bd. Then 1/2 hour after attempt you need to check pH again. If it is high you need to lower it back down to 4-4.5. Check your pH every 1/2 hour up to 4 hours. Then place in a lime doushe tampon.. and leave in for 4 or more hours. The first 4 hours are critical because it takes 4 hours for x sperm to get to the waiting zone. With cut off you need to keep your pH 4-4.5 till confirmed O so check often!
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Moon theory
Girl- conceived in the “new moon” phase
Boy- conceived in the “full moon” phase

Extra’s
No female orgasm
Missionary position for sex
Husband take HOT bath or shower a few minutes before sex (or have a heating pad heat up his “buddies”)
“Jump and Dump”- go to bathroom and “dump” everything right after sex.
Abstinence over 7 days is best or under 48 hours.. not between 2-6 days as this favors boys
Dh wear “tighty whities”

We attempted to do O+12 the first month but didnt fall pregnant so we decided to BD starting 3 days before Ovulation and everyday till the day after i thought i Ovulated.
I also ovulated in a new moon.
No orgasm for me, Missionary most times, no hot bath or shower, I did not jump and dump, DH wore "tighty whities".
DH did not abstain at all.
I DID NOT douche!!!

[mumof 2boys]

Once again i do understand that this is not for everyone and not everyone will agree with what we done.
As i said earlier i new that we may still have had a boy and i would have been happy with that.
In fact before i had my scan i was sure i was carrying a boy and was completely happy. I didnt believe the sonographer until she showed me herself.

That is most of the info that i have but will pass on the website if you like.

[BazzasMum]

Wow, that's pretty full-on. I think when the time comes it'll be only me trying the swaying - DH doesn't want to deal with a teenage DD!! lol It's all too much like hard work for him...

[cja]

I read the Shettles method book....'How to Choose the Sex of Your Baby' and about the only thing we did was do the deed 3 days before O. Used temps and CM for one month prior to have an idea about when O would be. Planned to try a bit closer to O each month of TTC, but was successful first month of trying.....with DD!

[mumof 2boys]

cja- my friend didnt even try for either and she has a boy and is pregnant with a girl. Sometimes i think that it just happens the way it does no matter what you do or try but i guess i wanted to put the extra effort in so i knew i had done what i could. Yes sounds strange i know.
Also both of my boys were conceived with the cut off method so unfortunatly shettles would not have worked for me anyway.
It is great that it worked for you and on the first month is fantastic!!!

BazzasMum- yep it is full on. :fingerscrossed: you get your DD when you try.

[Jeca]

Having gender swayed for bub #3 with the diets for us both, the timed intercourse, the no orgasm, TBM one cycle and all the other stuff we put into it, I can assure you that once bubby's arrived all that stuff is a distant memory :)! And yes, I did get my little girl after two boys, but I will admit, once I found out I was pregnant (finally - she took 6 months to conceive - that's a long time to be on the diet), I didn't care whether she was a boy or a girl, I wanted a little baby. It didn't bother me what gender she was so much so that I decided not to find out at the scan what the gender of the baby I was carrying was, and the joy of giving birth at home into the water was topped off by finding out that we had indeed been successful in our gender swaying. It was a moment like no other I have or will ever experience again! AMAZING!

I read just about everything I could get my hands on about gender swaying and after reading Shettles and Hazel Chesterman Philips books on the subjects I plumped for "a-gender" (I don't know if you're allowed to mention them on here, more than happy for mods to remove). Anyway, couldn't have been happier with the service!

Good luck gender swayers, I hope you all get the bub you long for, and the gender you want truly is just a bonus.

[kezzaskids]

we used the shettles timing and supplements. After 3 cycles we got our BFP and our little girl will be turning 1 next month :)

[sarahsboys]

we used the shettles timing and supplements. After 3 cycles we got our BFP and our little girl will be turning 1 next month :)

Hello, we have just found out we are pregnant with our 4th child. We tried the Shettles method for a girl and are desperately hoping that it worked. We conceived 3 days before O.

Can you remembered how long before O you conceived. Do you think 3 days is too close:confused:

[kezzaskids]

Hello, we have just found out we are pregnant with our 4th child. We tried the Shettles method for a girl and are desperately hoping that it worked. We conceived 3 days before O.

Can you remembered how long before O you conceived. Do you think 3 days is too close:confused:

I dont know for sure but that is the month we got our bfp too.

First cycle we stopped 5days berfore Ovulation
2nd cycle 4 days and cycle 3 with our bfp was 3 days before O.

Good luck!

[littleleos]

hey... thanks for all that info

just have a few quick questions

how much was the digital ph tester???
what is refresh and replens, I thought refresh was some type of eye drops? (sorry if u have already answered this... I have no brain today as I have been up all night with my molar teething baby :()

thanks again

[mumof 2boys]

I'm not sure about the digital tester i only used the strips from the chemist. You should be able to goggle it. Just make sure you get the one for testing urine or saliva not the water/pool ones.

Replens and Refresh are viginal moisturisers that balance ph levels you can only get one or the other in australia i just cant remember which one you can get. It is found with the tampons and pads in the supermarket or chemist.
I think i found the Aci-jel (only found in chemists) to have the lowest ph thats why i got that one.
Refresh is a brand of eye drops too!!! I thought the same thing when i first read all of this.

Good Luck.

[littleleos]

ah thanks.
I have my head on today after a lovely night sleep! so I am going to re read your master chef recipe :p

Might duck into the chemist for a few supplies tomorrow, have already been taking magnesium for muscle cramps, so we are off to a good start.

have been talking to hubby about it and he is happy for me to make him a guinne pig he he.

[earthfairy]

:wave: Hi Girls!

Im the opposite of you lot....i have a DD & DH & I will be TTC again early next year...

I would really like a boy...so if anyone has any info on that....gimme gimme gimme....ploise :D

This is all so interesting!!!!

TIA
:hugs:
ef x

[melbryan]

Glad you got your little girl I too did all in my power for a little girl after 3 boys. I have a boy and girl diet if anyone wants it.
I have passed this diet onto many people and is the same principles as yours. I think it's the timing I didn't do the douches but did the diets, timing and supplements and pretty much Dh did not much to help other than the deed.
I had a longer cycle so we did it 5 days out we tried for one month and next month I had a BFP. It is really crucial to find out O I think. I temped using a digital therm and did fertility friend for one month.
Good luck to everyone I also wanted to try and wanted whatever bubs if I had a girl it was a bonus. I would have regretted my life if we never tried. If I tried and failed I would have been OK with that.
Thanks for the info I have done my populating of Australia but it was interesting to read.

[mumof 2boys]

TTC a BOY


There are many things you can do to sway the odds and here is the information that should be helpful to you. The basic idea is that y sperm love a high pH from 8-9.9. When exposed to this pH they will thrive. Also y sperm love potassium and when potassium gets into the molecular level of cervical mucus it helps to ‘guide’ them to there destination faster than x sperm. Sperm count is highest when abstained from 2-6 days with day 4 being the highest and day 7 seeing a dramatic drop off (high sperm count favors y sperm.) Finally, although timing isn’t a proved theory, it is best to time bd near O if possible because this is when cm pH is the highest. Ok here is the rest of the info:


There are 7 Factors that make up swaying: pH, ions, minerals, diet, hormones, supplments and timeing. You cant just count on one to work. If you only do timeing that is only 1/7th of a sway.



Boy diet
There is some studies that suggest the food you eat can affect the gender outcome of your children. When doing the boy diet you must be adding salt as much as possible. However salt depletes the body of folic acid and your risk of miscarriage goes up when you don't have enough folic acid. So PLEASE take folic acid supplements when you are on this diet. If you have high blood pressure you should avoid the boy diet. Rather concentrate on the alkaline diet while cutting out dairy

Warning- to much potassium to fast can cause heart palpitations. Be careful of this!

Drinks
You dont take all the drinks.. but rather pick the one that works best for YOU

*Baking soda drink- (Each 1 teaspoon serving of pure BS =1232 mg sodium bicarbonate) One of the fastest ways to raise pH that has been discovered is baking soda drink. It is very important to follow the direction on the box. Do not take more than six 1/2 tsp a day (which is 3tsp a day or 3696mg). When baking soda is consumed it is a drug and you can over dose on it. You must also make sure that the powder is completely dissolved because unresolved baking soda can cause ulcers. You drink this from Af to O. Here is a link to the baking soda. If you do this you must take Folic acid every day.

Appe Cidar Vinegar (acv) drink: MAKE SURE IT HAS THE 'MOTHER' ATTACHED! drink 4 oz water, 2 T ACV, three times a day.

*Cream of tartar drink. Cream of tartar is pure potassium and when added to water it becomes easly absorbed by the body. There is 495mg of potassium in 1 tsp of cot. You can't have any more than 7 tsp a day.. you need to build up gradually. Only side effect is diaherea if taken to much. You can add one tsp of cot to 1/2 tsp bs and 4 oz of water- mix well and wait for fizzing to stop. Drink from af to O giving your body a break during the 2ww. . If you do this you must take Folic acid every day.

Lemon or lime water- Lemons and limes are acidic out of the body. But once consumed they have a chemical reaction with the acidic in the stomach that make them super alkaline. When ttc you want to drink 66-120+ oz of water a day, so why not make it lemon? You can use any form of lemon (fresh or bottled) and you add enough till you can taste it. Lemon is more alkaline than lime however; lemon has just a little less calcium than lime.

Potassium Drink: 1 cup V8 2-6 heaped tbls. nutritional yeast flakes (start with smaller amount) Potassium- 800-1,800 mg. Protein- 8-24 grams
Gelatin drink: Gelatin is a huge booster for testosterone. You want pure Gelatin such as the kind made from Knox. This has no sugar and is therefore not very acidic. You drink or eat one package of Gelatin 3 times a day from af to O (or more if you want but to save money just from af to O).
All other drinks- Some recommend mineral water for ttc a boy. This is ok as long as you can find one with no calcium or magnesium. Caffeine can be consumed by the dh once a day- any more and it will drop sperm count. DW can consume caffeine but remember that coffee is acidic and not to drink diet pop (diet pop is acidic). Juices need to follow the boy diet making sure the fruit is listed as boy safe. The following are great for ttc a boy: tomato juice ( very high Na and K, low Ca and Mg), Pineapple J, lemon j, and apple j.( about 10mg of Ca and Mg per 100g for all of them.
*You can mix the cot and bs into one drink if you make sure not to go over the total amount aloud for the day.

[mumof 2boys]

The supplements


You dont take all the supplments.. but rather pick the one that works best for YOU


Supplements are to increase cervical mucus pH. Studies show that high pH favors boy conceptions. The goal of the boy diet is to increase potassium in the cm and to change pH; the goal of supplements is to change pH and make EWCM. The key here is for you to find the right 'recipe' to make high pH with ewcm with potassium mixed in- this is the goal. Remember.. it is better to take supplements in liquid form if you can find that because it is more easily absorbed by the body. You should have a small meal / snack which contains some fat when taking your Vits and supplements. You will absorb more from the supplements that way. Your body will be releasing the enzymes to digest the food and it's vitamins and so will have the right enzymes about to get the most out of those expensive supplements



For the dw (darling wife):
*Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) 1000mg total a day~ Increases cm and ewcm. Try to space it out by takeing 2-3 capsules per day from last day of period until ovulation.

Robitussum or (Guaifenesin tablets) 400mg~ Helps thin out cm.May be taken from last day of period until 3 days after ovulation. Take 2 tsp about 3 times per day-Mucinex over-the counter.

Alka Selzter Gold~ Each serving of ASG (there are 2 tablets in a packet) = 2100 mg sodium bicarbonate. (Do not take more than 3696mg a day). ASG raise pH and the gold gives you potassium

*Green Tea 315mg~ Helps loosen cm and improves overall fertility. Drink 2-3 cups per day starting from last day of period. Can also be taken in the form of tablets, 2-3 tablets

Potassium pills 99mg- Makes cm more alkaline add potassium to cm. Only a little is absorbed with pills. More is absorbed with diet.

Fertile-cm- makes ewcm and is alkaline. Increase female testosterone, take 3 a day with 66+ oz of water. Can be taken from af to af or if you want to save money from af to confirmed o

False unicorn 900mg (ewcm, alkaline)- (suppose to help regulate cycle after depo-provera shot)

E 400iu-Strengthens lining of egg

Fish Oil 1000 mg- (NOT Cod Liver Oil) EWCM and makes cm more alkaline (please read dh supplments about fish oil for him down below)


Folic acid 800-1000mcg –strengthens egg and prevents miscarrage and is needed while on the boy diet To make sure you can absorb the most Folic Acid it needs to be taken when you won't consume any of the Boy Diet drinks that will limit its absorption

*Flaxseed Oil 1000mg -increase cm

Tribulous Terrestris (punture vine) 1000mg 2-3 times a day. This raises tesosterone for both dh and dw.

L-Arginine 500mg- makes ewcm and raises testrone. Not to be taken with fertile-cm as fcm has it in it already
Royal Jelly and Bee Pollen - DO NOT TAKE IF YOU HAVE BEE ALERGIES!! 1tsp morning and night do not use a metal spoon to eat it do not dissolve in water, just stick it in your mouth and smash it with your tongue. You can then swallow some water. It is just quicker and easier this way and it most likely won't dissolve in the water anyway. Do not heat it at all. The heat will destroy the effectiveness of it. This also takes around 3 months to work but I have seen it work in shorter amounts of time. This supplent will raise pH and make for a strong ovulation helping you to get pregenant.
*contains fake estrogen- could lengthen your cycle.

For Dh:
Zinc (raises testostrone) 50mg -One a day no more

B-12 150mcg -Repairs sperm count if dh has caffeen on a daily bases (daily caffeen isn't recommended)

ginseng 500mg- raises testostrone

L-arginine 500mg- raises pH and sperm count

Vitamin E - 400iu raies sperm count


CoQ-10 cardio formula by GNC. (it did raise testorone, pH and sperm count (dont take L-arginine with this one as it has it in it already)

Folic acid 800mcg- This repairs DNA damage in sperm cells

Baking soda drink to raise pH*

Fish oil: 1000mg. This will raise his pH and sperm count. But here is the MOST IMPORTANT rule for dh.. you MUST buy mercury free certified fish oil (and not cod liver oil). Because Mercury will sway for a girl


Tribulous Terrestris (punture vine) 1000mg 2-3 times a day. This raises tesosterone for both dh and dw.


**Bs drink is better for dh at raise his pH then alfalfa because alfalfa has photoestrogens.




Other supplments:

For prevention of mc these supplements can be taken by the dw. These can be used for ttc a boy or a girl except for false unicorn which is a boy supplement


Vitamin E-400 iui - this strengthens the outer shell of the egg and helps with implantation-->-->
Folic acid- 800-1000mcg this strengthens the inners part of the egg-->-->
Vitamin B12-150mcg makes folic acid work better (b6 also lengths luteal phase, if you take b6 and get a bfp don't stop suddenly, rather decrease it slowly)-->-->
Zinc -50mg- this repairs any of the egg that may have been damaged and also helps with implantation-->-->
False unicorn-900mg- This helps the egg (don't know how), helps with implantation and helps to maintain a pregnancy.


Supplements for Cycles:
How to lengthen cycle: Supplements containing phytoestorgens
How to lengthen luteal phase: Vitamin b 6


The hardest part is trying to decide what to take. I know for a fact that you can not mix Alfalfa with black cohosh so I don't even have that supplement on this list. After O the only safe suppleness are Fertile-Cm, false unicorn, fish oil, vitamin E, folic acid and flaxseed oil. Because the rest have been know to cause problems with miscarriage.


Optimal pH of cm should be 7.5-9
Optimal pH of dh semen should be 9+

[mumof 2boys]

Other tips:
Pre-seed or real egg whites are being used by some to sway for a boy. So is one cup of Sea salt baths (not epsom salt)or baking soda baths (if you do bs bath you need to count 3 baths in one day as one serving of bs orally as it gets absorbed) and cold showers. I think everyone is using a baking soda douche. This is all based on an environment theory that an Alkaline one produces boys. There is another theory called Shettles the believes it is all timing (O day = boy) Great thing about this is you can do both theories. I personally believe it is more about environment though because my last dd was conceived on O day. I also have a doc friend that says the more you bd the more you will have a girl and vice-versa. Lemon water has a huge but gradual effect on female cm pH. You should drink 66-100+oz a day of this. Also Oing 3 times a day for a week is suppose to raise female pH. Finally some are using instead cups after bd to hold the y sperm up there longer so they get a chance to swim. For ttc a boy you should avoid using the following products because they have been found to lower female testosterone (which favors boys) Nail polish remove, Nail polish, and anything with Aerosols.
For dh you need him to stay away from hot showers and baths. He needs to not wear tight fighting underwear. He also should try to get on the boy diet and he needs to raise his semen pH to a 9+. He can raise pH with alfalfa or other ‘green’ supplements. His pH can be changed quickly with these- he should take as much needed the day before bd to achieve high pH. An hour before bd time he needs to consume large amounts of caffeine. Also if he rubs ice on the family jewels once a day this is rumored to help the y sperm along. Finally, sperm count is highest in the morning so try to time bd then. New info suggest that you want low blood sugar in the mornign sways girl and high blood sugar sways boys. So eat your breakfast (cerical has carbs and rice crispies is aloud with o cal rice dream milk) in the morning. Also cardio sways girl while weights sway boys. Finally, warm things sway girl and cold things boy (effects pH and ions)

The Moon-->-->

There is no doubt that the moon can sometimes have and effect on gender if ones body responds to it. Here is the scientific reason behind why this might be and how you can alter that effect if you need to. The theory is that a different sperm have different ions. Now when there is a full moon out it is scientific fact that there are positive ions in the air and we breathe it. When there is a new moon out there are negative ions in the air and you inhaling that as well. The theory is that some peoples bodies react to these ions just like nature does (Google crops and moon, or fish and moon). So when there is a full moon those positive ions cause your egg to have positive ions thus attracting the y sperm. Now if you are O’ing in a new moon you need to try to counteract the effects of the negative ions. You can do this with electrical equipment like an electric blanket, because machines running on electricity omit positive ions or you can buy products for magnate therapy (making sure to use the positive ions also called polar south). (If you are reading this and are ttc a girl then you need to Google rock salt deionizers to counteract the effects of a full moon or use magnate therapy using negative ions- polar north)


Info on pH strips and retrieving cm

Digital pH testers are the best for testing pH. Then (http://Then) there are two pH strips you want to look for (if not buying digital). Alkalive (also called pHion) and full range (also called universal). These are found the cheapest on ebay (search pH strips then select lowest to highest price.) Alkalive can measure between numbers like a 4.75 but can be hard to read so you need a back up. The full range strips will only read one number- no between but they are very easy to read.

CM pH test strips are read in 15-20 minutes (but don't read it dry)
Semen pH test strips are read in 1 minute. The reason for the difference is water content.
Digital pH tester is read right away

How to retrieve cm….TMI!!! You reach up inside your V and with your finger you touch the cervix. Then you hook your finger and pull out. The cm on the tip of your finger is the one you want to test. The cm closest to your cervix is the most alkaline and the cm on the edges of your v is acidic. Wipe this on the pH strip (or on the digital pH tester wand) and wait for up to 10 minutes (no waiting for digital) depending on how much water is in your cm. If your pH strip doesn’t change and you have tried several times to test pH; this means you have low ionic strength in your cm (which means you NEED a digtal pH tester). Urion pH only tells you how you are doing with your diet and supplements that day- it does not help with swaying besides that.
To test dh pH you have him give a sample in a cup or a condom. Then test that sample with pH strips right away (the longer semen sits out the higher the pH goes and you want to know his initial pH).



Baking Soda Douch.


To help conceive a baby boy use an Alkaline Douche

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While inserted, empty the douche or syringe slowly and gently preferably while lying down to ensure maximum effect.



Baking Soda Finger
This is for women who can’t do baking soda douche because of susceptibility to infections, but still want to raise there pH before bd. An hour before bd make sure your hands are clean and then you wet the tip of your finger (some say middle finger is easier) then dip it in baking soda. Then, sit down on the toilet and insert your finger with the baking soda and pull out. If tested right away your cm should go from low to high (4.5 to 7-8) and stay that way for up to four hours. You might be able to smell the baking soda, but it shouldn’t burn or hurt. Big thing to remember is to make sure not to actually touch your cervix. It has been said that it would burn pretty badly if you did.


How to use egg whites or Pre-seed
Egg whites have the best sway over pre-seed. So please if you want the very best sway choose egg whites with a pH of 9-9.9. Please make sure you buy pasterized eggs (or you can pastrize them yourself (http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/101999.aspx))

Egg whites: Goal pH of egg whites is 9-9.9 and the fresher the egg the better the pH.
Normal pH of egg whites:
Pasteurized from real egg separated whites 8-10+
Pasteurized egg whites from box (with additives) 8-9
Powered egg whites 6.5
Farm fresh eggs- never refrigerated, non-pasteurized, separated 9-9.9
The pH of the egg whites is extremely important. If your egg whites don't have a pH between 9-9.9 then you either need to lower the pH (if it is a 10) or use a different egg (if it is unpasteurized-then you can pasteurize it yourself)
Egg White Mix Recipe:
How to lower pH :-->-->
First check real EW pH. If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: a little preseed with your egg whties. pH of this mixture should be 9.
How to raise pH:
2 weeks before attempt wash egg shells in soap and water. Place in eggs either in a glass bowl or other non-plastic container and let them sit in there for a two weeks.
Egg whites can provide a mucus-like environment which is sperm friendly. Take an egg out of the fridge set it on the counter for approximately 1 hour, so it can reach room temp. Before DTD, crack open the egg separate the yolk from the white (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004VWTJ/tryingtoconceive) then check pH of egg white; and then insert the room temperature white gently into your vagina (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004RDCG/tryingtoconceive). Worried about bacteria? Pasterize your eggs yourself!


Pre-seed mix (this does not have as good of sway as ew.. please consider ew first)
Pre-seed has a pH of 7. To ttc a boy you need at least a pH of 8. To raise pH of pre-seed place pre-seed in a paper cup. Then mix about 4 pinches of baking soda in with it by stirring. The pre-seed might change colors to white but it still should have the same consistency. Check pH of pre-seed to make sure it is an 8. Suck up pre-seed with dropper and use as needed.
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[mumof 2boys]

That is all the info i have on ttc a boy!! If you would like the website just let me know!

Good luck with your little boy.

:flowerz:

[Maybelline]

Of course having a healthy baby of either gender is most important...
We have a girl already and both would like (if we have another baby)another girl (not to keen on having a boy)..so this info is great ..will for sure try it ...see if it works....

All the best to you with your baby girl (they are fabulous!!!)

[littleleos]

hey girls

melybran... would love your girl diet. I have a busy little boy and dont get much spare time so thanks in advance;)

mum of 2 boys... so what is the optimum ph to say for a girl... anything lower than 7???

still adding items to my shopping list... gunna start trying in november.

chat to u latter

[mumof 2boys]

lianas1stbub- optimum ph is 4-4.5 but if you can not get it that low below a 6 is ok. ph of 7 is very good boy territory!!! Dont go any lower than 4 as then girl sperm wont make it through either!!
A low ph wont Kill boy sperm but it frezzes there tales so they cant swim. lol that sounds funny. So make sure you ph is kept low until 3 days after O to be sure you are no longer fertile.

If you can try to start taking the supplements now. And start the diet now too.

[sarahsboys]

Glad you got your little girl I too did all in my power for a little girl after 3 boys. I have a boy and girl diet if anyone wants it.
I have passed this diet onto many people and is the same principles as yours. I think it's the timing I didn't do the douches but did the diets, timing and supplements and pretty much Dh did not much to help other than the deed.
I had a longer cycle so we did it 5 days out we tried for one month and next month I had a BFP. It is really crucial to find out O I think. I temped using a digital therm and did fertility friend for one month.
Good luck to everyone I also wanted to try and wanted whatever bubs if I had a girl it was a bonus. I would have regretted my life if we never tried. If I tried and failed I would have been OK with that.
Thanks for the info I have done my populating of Australia but it was interesting to read.

Hello! Just wanted to thank you for the girl diet!! After the first month we have just found out we are pregnant, yay! Hopefully we followed everything correctly. we ended up conceiving 3 days before O. Do you think this is ok to concieve the much wanted girl????
Our age gap isnt quite as close as yours, but will still have 4 at home for about 6 months before DS1 goes to school in 2011. Please let me know your thoughts......

Thanks again

Sarah xxx

[littleleos]

hey sarah
congratulations on your pregnancy! How strict where u with the diet.

I am just increasing my calcium, have been taking magnesium tabs anyway for my muscle cramps, I have also got the relpens moisturiser. it has 3 applicators so I am just going to use 1 just before I 0 as I think they last 3 days???
my friend is going to pick up some litimus paper from work so I can test my ph... just going to let nature takes it course. in the end we just want a healthy baby!

chat to u latter

[sarahsboys]

hey sarah
congratulations on your pregnancy! How strict where u with the diet.

I am just increasing my calcium, have been taking magnesium tabs anyway for my muscle cramps, I have also got the relpens moisturiser. it has 3 applicators so I am just going to use 1 just before I 0 as I think they last 3 days???
my friend is going to pick up some litimus paper from work so I can test my ph... just going to let nature takes it course. in the end we just want a healthy baby!

chat to u latter

Hi, I got the girl diet from Mel, and I combined that with the book, How to choose the sex of your baby, by Dr Shettles. I didnt do the douching or the testing of Ph levels. Just tried to do the diet as much as possible , and took the vitamins. But the main thing, as far as I see it is the timing. I am lucky as i have a very regular 28 day cycle. I ovulate on day 14. So we had sex every day from the end of period until day 11. Will let yo know the outcome!

[littleleos]

cant wait to hear how u go! did u take the cranberry tabs or the drink... I had a look today and all the juices had black current in them... but cranberry doesnt taste very nice anyway
where did u get the book from?

[shereejoy]

Bit late at night, so only perused this post, but omg! sounds very interesting and just want to thank you for all of the information. Will keep in touch in the next few days once I have read and will fire questions LOL. Thanks again.

[jaesmummy]

Wow! It gives me a headache just thinking about it! I was ok with everything until I read the no orgasm rule. (hahaha) Unfortunately it's too late for me now so I'll just have to :fingerscrossed: and hope that it's 7th time lucky for a girl!! If it's another boy at least we have plenty of hand-me-downs. Thanks for the info though. :thumbsup:

[BabelFish]

I'm just curious. It's the sperm that determines the sex so how is there anything that you can do to sway it? Other than the science that male sperm are faster and weaker and female sperm are slower and stronger.

If we TTC again I'd like to try for another girl, but I'll be doing it by DTD three days before ovulation. I'm really interested in everything in this thread and not discounting it - but just curious how it all works when the mother has absolutely nothing to do with determining the sex?

[wanting a lil girl]

Just wondering how long should I be on the diet before trying to conceive. And should my DH be on it 2? Thanx for all the great info everyone!

[Ffrenchknickers]

I'm just curious. It's the sperm that determines the sex so how is there anything that you can do to sway it? Other than the science that male sperm are faster and weaker and female sperm are slower and stronger.

If we TTC again I'd like to try for another girl, but I'll be doing it by DTD three days before ovulation. I'm really interested in everything in this thread and not discounting it - but just curious how it all works when the mother has absolutely nothing to do with determining the sex?

Once you read the stuff about the PH levels it makes sense.:)

[mumof 2boys]

chesby05- ultimately it is the sperm that determines the sex but it also has alot to do with your ph levels as well!! Boy sperm can not swim if ph levels are to low and girl sperm can not swim if ph levels are high. So if your ph levels are kept low you have a much higher chance of conciving a girl. So the diet, supplements etc etc all play a part in keeping your ph levels low. Same with your partner if he does the diet and supplements the ph of his sperm are most likely going to be lower so giving you a higher chance of getting a girl!! Hope that makes sense!!

wanting a lil girl- You should be on the diet for as long as you can!! In saying that i didnt really do the diet all that well and only started changing a few things 2 months before i fell pregnant!! Yes Dh should do the diet too but mine didnt!!

[BabelFish]

Brilliant! I'm going to bookmark this thread for future application. :D

[littleleos]

well I got my :bfp: 5 days ago... I did a few thing to tcc a girl but didnt really get a chance to use them... I only used the replens magnasium tablets and cranberry tablets... but didnt take them for a week as we where on holidays...oopsy
let you all know the out come! boy or girl in the end I will love my bubba no matter what sex they are.:p

good luck girls

[mumof 2boys]

Hi girls,

Just thought i would pop in and let you know that our little girl arrived on the 11-12 3wks early!! So she is proof this really does work!!! I am loving every minute of her she is wonderful!!!
Her 2 brothers think she is the best thing in the world!!!
Now our family is complete.

littleleos- congrats on your bfp!!! Fingerscrossed for a pink bundle!!!

[sarahsboys]

Hi girls,

Just thought i would pop in and let you know that our little girl arrived on the 11-12 3wks early!! So she is proof this really does work!!! I am loving every minute of her she is wonderful!!!
Her 2 brothers think she is the best thing in the world!!!
Now our family is complete.

littleleos- congrats on your bfp!!! Fingerscrossed for a pink bundle!!!

A big congratulations! You must be soooo Happy!

Can I ask when you found out you were having a girl, was it at the 20 week scan.. I had my 12 week scan the other day, and got told most likely another boy, but since people have told me that you cant really tell at 12 weeks...

[littleleos]

congrats mum of 2 boys AND A GIRL!!!!!

[littleleos]

oh quick question... how strictly did u follow the recipe???? for your pink bundle

[mumof 2boys]

I found out at my 19 week scan and had another 2 scans after that for other reasons and they both comfirmed a girl!!!
I had a 12 week scan and they wouldnt say anything as it is not really acurate. I also had another scan at 14.3 weeks due to bleeding and she still wouldnt say anything then. But my friend found out she was having a boy at 14 weeks and it was correct. I would be waiting till 19-20 weeks to be sure.

I wasnt really strict with what we done!!! I used aci-jel, cranberry, calcium and mag tablets, BD 2 days before day of and day after O, and wasnt very good with the diet due to dairy allergies. Oh and i used the ph strips all the time!!! That was the one thing that i was very strict with, so if my ph was a little high i could make sure i lowered it asap.

[mumof 2boys]

Bumping for anyone that might be interested!!!

And if you would like the website for ttc a specific gender just PM me!!!

[nick's mum]

Thanks it is very interesting. I've read a lot of similar things but wasn't really sure how to use the ph test strips for CM - so you've helped me there. We aren't trying for #3 yet but same as you - we want 3 and already have 2 boys and while we'd be happy with 3 boys we'd like to give it our best shot at conceiving a girl.

I've never heard of refresh and replens - do you just ask at the chemist? Or will they have no idea what I'm talking about? My only obstacle is that DP loves his coffee. I like coffee but can go a few days or more without missing it. Some of what I've read previously sometimes says that coffee is acidic (ie. low ph) but others say drink more if you want a boy (contraditory?) Confusing anyway.

Congratulations on conceiving your girl :D

[trin_007]

I read just about everything I could get my hands on about gender swaying and after reading Shettles and Hazel Chesterman Philips books on the subjects I plumped for "a-gender" (I don't know if you're allowed to mention them on here, more than happy for mods to remove). Anyway, couldn't have been happier with the service!





Hi Jeca - what do you mean by "I plumped for ' a-gender'......maybe you could PM me......I'm confused :confused:

[Nuckysmum]

Hi, are you able to send me the girl diet web site?
Thanks. :)

[Pulp Fiction]

There are also some really good boy/girl diet cookbooks on the website all this information came from. You can download them for free. They might be worth checking out for people who are stuck for gender appropriate recipes.

Here is the boy cookbook http://www.ingender.com/cs/forums/t/16342.aspx

and here is the girl one
http://www.ingender.com/cs/forums/t/49300.aspx

I've posted these links before and haven't gotten in trouble. I don't see why bubhub would care. (I hope they don't anyway..) They're just cookbooks.



how much was the digital ph tester???


I bought mine off ebay. Apparently the only good PH tester to test CM is the Hanna 98103. I bought mine on ebay and it got shipped from the US. It cost me about $60 inc shipping. BUT I kind of wish I had gotten mine in Australia. They are a bit more expensive (about $105) BUT I ordered 2 from the US and the first one didn't work and I left it to late to return it, and the second one didn't work properly either, so I had to send it back to the US and wait for a replacement. Which works. Just. Still has a few minor issues.

[nyss86]

I have just joined and found this thread very interesting!

I am blessed with one DD already and have another DD on the way but would love to have a DS one day if hubby agrees to another bub. Congrats to those that have used these methods and they have worked. I will have to look more into it once we (hopefully) decide to have another :)

[mumof 2boys]

Bump :)

[Heavenly1]

i used shettles method for my dd2 and that worked so will use it again for the next

[Nuckysmum]

[QUOTE=Jeca;4164957]I read just about everything I could get my hands on about gender swaying and after reading Shettles and Hazel Chesterman Philips books on the subjects I plumped for "a-gender" (I don't know if you're allowed to mention them on here, more than happy for mods to remove). Anyway, couldn't have been happier with the service!

QUOTE]

I know this is really old now, but I have also been looking at a-gender. What package did you go with?

Thanks. :)