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serendipity22
27-09-2009, 15:25
The USA is only country where most infant boys are circed, except Israel and infant circ capital of the world.
Infant circ there has a number of differences from here.
Here its 13%, there its 56%.
In parts of the US, circ is more like what it was here in the 1960s.
Here anestethic is almost always used, there about half the time it is not used.
In the US parents are frequently pestered by hospital staff to circ.
In the US doctors are taught nothing about the foreskin in medical school. Premature retraction by doctors is rife, something which has greatly helped the circumcision industry (as it can lead to foreskin problems).
Foreskins are sold there to biotech and cosmetic companies etc. Circ is a billion dollar industry.
Its likely that the high rates there have raised rates here indirectly.
sockstealingpoltergeist
27-09-2009, 15:42
That is so awful.:crying:
I thought I commented on this...
I said, that is disgusting...VERY VERY wrong...No child should be put throug pain..
firsttimemumvmr
27-09-2009, 15:53
To be quite honest I live in the US. I pay for my healthcare privately and have whatever I want! Done it before.Not everyone is rich and I truly feel for that! I would love for everyone to choose !
firsttimemumvmr
27-09-2009, 15:58
The USA is only country where most infant boys are circed, except Israel and infant circ capital of the world.
Infant circ there has a number of differences from here.
Here its 13%, there its 56%.
In parts of the US, circ is more like what it was here in the 1960s.
Here anestethic is almost always used, there about half the time it is not used.
In the US parents are frequently pestered by hospital staff to circ.
In the US doctors are taught nothing about the foreskin in medical school. Premature retraction by doctors is rife, something which has greatly helped the circumcision industry (as it can lead to foreskin problems).
Foreskins are sold there to biotech and cosmetic companies etc. Circ is a billion dollar industry.
Its likely that the high rates there have raised rates here indirectly.
I was born in England but I live in NY state! This is not my experience of an American hospital! No way!
serendipity22
27-09-2009, 16:28
This is not my experience of an American hospital! No way!
If you are referring to the comment about hospitals pressuring parents then that was based on dozens of testimonials on several websites.
It wont be true of all hospitals though so we can both be right
firsttimemumvmr
28-09-2009, 10:54
If you are referring to the comment about hospitals pressuring parents then that was based on dozens of testimonials on several websites.
It wont be true of all hospitals though so we can both be right
I did clearly quoted that as 'my experience' any other experience of course is the copy right of the person involved.
firsttimemumvmr
30-09-2009, 07:18
If you are referring to the comment about hospitals pressuring parents then that was based on dozens of testimonials on several websites.
It wont be true of all hospitals though so we can both be right
I was angry on the topic that night and to be honest, I fail to say that you said 'we could all be right'.My most sincere apology for being a bit well .... bossy or unfriendly!!
duckyboy1975
01-10-2009, 03:26
In the US it is still almost routine where they circ the child after birth, you have to specifically tell the doctor not to circ or they will just do it.
Fellow Traveler
02-10-2009, 07:41
In the US it is still almost routine where they circ the child after birth, you have to specifically tell the doctor not to circ or they will just do it.
Actually it depends on where you are in the US, it isn't quite that automatic any more you do have to sign paper work but it's usually buried in a stack and full disclosure is rarely provided. We've in fact been lucky enough to get Medicaid to stop funding circumcision in about 1/3 of the states and usually private insurance even follows suit. So things are getting better here but there are still many medical professionals that really lean on parents hard to do it.
The biggest problem that intact boys in the US face are doctors who aren't practiced in proper and conservative treatment of the foreskin so almost any aliment that befalls an intact boys circumcision is typically prescribed before anything else and often with little evaluation.
firsttimemumvmr
04-10-2009, 10:17
Actually it depends on where you are in the US, it isn't quite that automatic any more you do have to sign paper work but it's usually buried in a stack and full disclosure is rarely provided. We've in fact been lucky enough to get Medicaid to stop funding circumcision in about 1/3 of the states and usually private insurance even follows suit. So things are getting better here but there are still many medical professionals that really lean on parents hard to do it.
The biggest problem that intact boys in the US face are doctors who aren't practiced in proper and conservative treatment of the foreskin so almost any aliment that befalls an intact boys circumcision is typically prescribed before anything else and often with little evaluation.
My experience of healthcare in the US is that you have to sign for every procedure, whether for yourself or your chargee (say elderly parent incapacitanted, child whatever), so yes you would have to sign for circumcision of your infant.I'm not going back on the merits of the op or otherwise because there are so many times I can state my views.
Fellow Traveler
04-10-2009, 14:28
My experience of healthcare in the US is that you have to sign for every procedure, whether for yourself or your chargee (say elderly parent incapacitanted, child whatever), so yes you would have to sign for circumcision of your infant.I'm not going back on the merits of the op or otherwise because there are so many times I can state my views.
I didn't disagree that there isn't something that is signed but that can often be a long way from informed consent. Plus since routine circumcision isn't really a part of best practices of medicine, there is the question of whether consent is valid, which was part of the recent Tasmanian Law Review (http://www.law.utas.edu.au/reform/malecircumcision.htm). I am hoping that will lead to some ratcheting down, it would never go as far as I'd like but every little bit helps.
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