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Father
26-09-2009, 20:52
How common are anti-circ men?

Andrew. Could you please explain why you are anti-circ? Especially because you are circ'd yourself.

andrewJ
26-09-2009, 21:12
I did explain here once. It was a bit of an essay, but i deleted it because I dont want people googling me.

CLearly then, I am embarrassed talking about it. Despite my strong views, i bite my tongue in 'real life'. I think this is common, and is why you seem to think that bubhub/the internet is a completely artificial world, that does not reflect real life opinions.

I will consider doing it again, but it is an effort to get through to people who not only dont think its obvious that circumcision is a bad idea, but have psychological motivations to deny it. This is why it was an essay.

LeeJ
26-09-2009, 21:22
My brother in law is an 'anti circ circ'd man',
They botched it when he was baby....

But it is not very often that it would come up in conversation, not something I would imagine would be very pleasant to talk about IRL.

Hollywood
26-09-2009, 21:44
My DH is an "anti circ circ'd man". He says he will never forgive his parents for removing his foreskin as a baby (though he would never say that to their face, he just keeps it to himself).

So of course we didn't get DS done :no:. My sister is due for her first baby in January, and when the topic came up about circumcision she said something about how it was possible she'd have it done if the baby is a boy. My DH kept quiet in front of her, but when we got in the car to go home he shared his feelings of 'disgust' that she would do that to her baby. DH really is against the practice, which I like because so am I.

BeatoNo3
26-09-2009, 21:51
The only thing i will say after watching this discussion continue from another thread...

Is why should it be removed in the first place if your born with it... I aint not religous person or what not but i do think that if mand kind was created with a bit of extra skin then y should it be removed.. I mean really whoever back in the day first thought "gee, i dont like that skin there i might remove it". For what reason, n yes there is the great debate of medical reasons and stuff but for god sake people if ur born with it, your born with it....

PunkyDiva
26-09-2009, 22:08
There are quite a few worldwide forums specifically for men who have been circ'd as infants and are very anti. Just google and maybe follow some links to find them.
It is a great way for men to get support, advice etc when so many would never talk about it in real life but have very real and debilitating emotional & physical issues surrounding what was done to them.

Mrs Nietzsche
26-09-2009, 22:19
Both my brothers are circumcised, and both of them told me I should not have my son done.

Fellow Traveler
27-09-2009, 01:24
It seems to me that it is increasingly common perhaps because the Internet allows men to explore and discuss this issue in relative anonymity. It's such a personal issue that it would be difficult to bring it up publically at least initially. I am glad that such thing are available it adds to our understanding of not just this but other deep down personnal issues.

Little-Pink-Hen
27-09-2009, 01:39
Hmm I've always found this concept strange because :- out of all the males I know in my family and friends only my two brothers and two friends are not circ the rest are circed and when the discussion comes up they never say any objections to it or wish they weren't done
and the only anti circ ppl I know irl are my mum and one of my non circ friends
weird I suppose....

firsttimemumvmr
27-09-2009, 15:02
I did explain here once. It was a bit of an essay, but i deleted it because I dont want people googling me.

CLearly then, I am embarrassed talking about it. Despite my strong views, i bite my tongue in 'real life'. I think this is common, and is why you seem to think that bubhub/the internet is a completely artificial world, that does not reflect real life opinions.

I will consider doing it again, but it is an effort to get through to people who not only dont think its obvious that circumcision is a bad idea, but have psychological motivations to deny it. This is why it was an essay.

Andrew,I hope you don't hate me for being 'pro'. My husband was done as a baby and well, we're happy but...I wanted to explore specifically what you hate it so much...I may come across as slightly nasty to your side but that's not normally my method.Hugs xVirginia (Vi) - my real name

SassyMummy
27-09-2009, 15:11
OP, I think you could liken this to anything really, where something (which is legal) happened to someone without their true consent. Just because it happened to them doesn't think they're automatically going to love it, or agree with it.

Some people will have had their ears pierced as babies. Doesn't mean they agree with piercing the ears of babies.

Some people will have caesarean sections (like me). Doesn't mean they like caesarean sections (again, like me. I hated mine, and never wanted it).

I suppose that most people just accept it and live with it... for most circed men, they've never known life any other way, so why bother questioning it?

There are some though, who look more deeply into it, who have a problems as a result of it... and thus decide that it's not a great decision to have been made for them after all.

I think that what it really boils down to though, is that most anti-circ people aren't anti-circ WHOLLY, but more anti-RIC. They're against babies/young children being circumcised, because they don't get a say in what is being permanently done to thier bodies. Anti-circers could still feel quite comfortable with John, aged 30, making the decision to go and be circumcised... just not John aged 3 months being circumcised because his parents decided to get it done to him.

MotherNurture
28-09-2009, 07:33
My dh is an anti-circ circed man.

Dss is circed and expecting his first son in November; they are leaving my (step)grandson intact.

serendipity22
23-10-2009, 01:11
Anti-circers could still feel quite comfortable with John, aged 30, making the decision to go and be circumcised...

I am quite comfortable with that.

Its the involuntary aspect of infant circ I don't like.

Though in John's case he should get proper information about it first (otherwise its uninformed consent).

I would like to add though sometimes elective cosmetic surgery for adults is not appropriate. For example one Queensland woman had both her healthy breasts removed by some crazy doctor because she was depressed
(and regretted it).

A possible solution might be to provide some counseling to person's wishing to undergo irreversible cosmetic surgery, without impinging on an adult's right to choose.