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TripleTime
24-07-2009, 07:30
I know its only July but...

I thought id start an august thread seeing as there is already 3 august babes here, why the heck not start a thread. So here you are Ladies. And August is only a week & a bit away anyways.

Enjoy ;)

TripleTime
12-08-2009, 15:40
Hows everyone going with their new bundles?

Brood Mare
18-08-2009, 13:31
Well lets see.

Keiran and I left the hospital after 24hrs of being there.
We are both very healthy, him more so then I.
I went into the hospital still recovering from cold/flu, and left with a buttload of stitches.. literally :laughing:

We have had family come and go, My mother made food for us for the week. And my Dad helped us get home from the hospy.
The midwife came yesterday also, to give Keiran his prick test. The little champ, fell back right to sleep, and I didn't have to breastfeed him.

Last night was me and the DH's first real test of up and down sleeps. Keiran woke up just after DH got into bed. I fed and changed his backside and he fell back to sleep til about 3am. I fed him 2 more times, changed him, and he was still grumbly, so the DH took him for a little while, until he was hungry, yet again. I fed him, and he fell back to sleep til 8:30am. It was a small taste I am guessing of things to come!

Breastfeeding has been pretty good so far. Yes I am a bit sore, but after a few attempts, he goes right to town and I have minimum of pain.
My boobs today however are huge. And I have massaged them a few times to get the milk flowing from ducts.
My concern now is to make sure I don't get any mastitis or something. So I am doing what i can to reduce my chances.
Bubs doesn't complain though, he thinks it's great!

Bleeding has slowed down for me, and I am nice and light. I however am pretty scared everytime I need to a do a no2. Very unpleasant feeling, and I am afraid of ripping stitches everytime I go, or sit down, or even get up.
I have been instructed to take panadol or nurofen to settle the discomfort.

Today another midwife came to do a check up on his weight. Apparently he has only lost 30gs which is apparently almost unheard of, cause it is so little. He also has a touch of jaundice, but the midwife said, with the amount of eating and pooping he has been doing, I hopefully wont have to worry about him having anything to severe.

Otherwise, he has been amazing! I am so in love. :cloud9:

TripleTime
18-08-2009, 15:06
Sounds like your settling right in to being a mum.

One tip i have for you on the jaundice front, is sun light. Take him out side for 15 minutes each day. Doesnt have to be direct sunlight & dont let him get burnt.

teeda
19-08-2009, 18:00
Well lets see.

Keiran and I left the hospital after 24hrs of being there.
We are both very healthy, him more so then I.
I went into the hospital still recovering from cold/flu, and left with a buttload of stitches.. literally :laughing:

We have had family come and go, My mother made food for us for the week. And my Dad helped us get home from the hospy.
The midwife came yesterday also, to give Keiran his prick test. The little champ, fell back right to sleep, and I didn't have to breastfeed him.

Last night was me and the DH's first real test of up and down sleeps. Keiran woke up just after DH got into bed. I fed and changed his backside and he fell back to sleep til about 3am. I fed him 2 more times, changed him, and he was still grumbly, so the DH took him for a little while, until he was hungry, yet again. I fed him, and he fell back to sleep til 8:30am. It was a small taste I am guessing of things to come!

Breastfeeding has been pretty good so far. Yes I am a bit sore, but after a few attempts, he goes right to town and I have minimum of pain.
My boobs today however are huge. And I have massaged them a few times to get the milk flowing from ducts.
My concern now is to make sure I don't get any mastitis or something. So I am doing what i can to reduce my chances.
Bubs doesn't complain though, he thinks it's great!

Bleeding has slowed down for me, and I am nice and light. I however am pretty scared everytime I need to a do a no2. Very unpleasant feeling, and I am afraid of ripping stitches everytime I go, or sit down, or even get up.
I have been instructed to take panadol or nurofen to settle the discomfort.

Today another midwife came to do a check up on his weight. Apparently he has only lost 30gs which is apparently almost unheard of, cause it is so little. He also has a touch of jaundice, but the midwife said, with the amount of eating and pooping he has been doing, I hopefully wont have to worry about him having anything to severe.

Otherwise, he has been amazing! I am so in love. :cloud9:

Hey Mimmi - Glad to hear that Keiran is settling in and you are loving your new family :)

I know what you mean about the stitches! I don't think that I have ever that afraid of going to the toilet! Although, the midwife told me that with the stitches, a sneezing fit will do more damage than number 2s... I found that taking Metamucil helped, plus i took Ural to minimise the stinging when peeing.

AFM - Jet is now 3 weeks and 5 days but after settling in well the first couple of weeks, he has started to become very unsettled - there have been many tearful nights (me included) - it has been so hard to get him back to sleep once he has woken, and he seems to be in pain after his feeds. His face goes all red and he arches his back :( - i am going to take him to the gp tomorrow, but I have read somewhere something about reflux? Any advice on how I can tell if he does have reflux and if there are any solutions to getting him to sleep better? I have resorted to rocking him to sleep in my arms, but I don't want it to turn into a habit. HELP!! (sorry for going on but it just upsets me so much when he cries so much)
Thanks in advance....

TripleTime
19-08-2009, 18:36
Teeda - DS is our Reflux baby. Who brings back up what went down. If his straining & arching his back its more liking wind than reflux. DD1 arches & strains but dosent spew.
If your DS is spewing & has milk in his mouth 15 minutes after a feed, could be reflux. If not, its more likely wind.

AFM - DS stopped breathing on me twice yesterday. We ended up in the hospital last night & we're now trying to find out why.

Brood Mare
19-08-2009, 19:10
Hey Mimmi - Glad to hear that Keiran is settling in and you are loving your new family :)

I know what you mean about the stitches! I don't think that I have ever that afraid of going to the toilet! Although, the midwife told me that with the stitches, a sneezing fit will do more damage than number 2s... I found that taking Metamucil helped, plus i took Ural to minimise the stinging when peeing.

AFM - Jet is now 3 weeks and 5 days but after settling in well the first couple of weeks, he has started to become very unsettled - there have been many tearful nights (me included) - it has been so hard to get him back to sleep once he has woken, and he seems to be in pain after his feeds. His face goes all red and he arches his back :( - i am going to take him to the gp tomorrow, but I have read somewhere something about reflux? Any advice on how I can tell if he does have reflux and if there are any solutions to getting him to sleep better? I have resorted to rocking him to sleep in my arms, but I don't want it to turn into a habit. HELP!! (sorry for going on but it just upsets me so much when he cries so much)
Thanks in advance....


Keiran was exactly the same today. Absolutely difficult. In the end, he latched on, I let him suck as long as he wanted. I think I even fell asleep somewhere along the way, to wake up to find him still going, and he fell asleep right after.
It was doing my head in for a little while there, because it seemed nothing I did, calmed him down.
I spoke to my MIL, she says you get days like these. So I am praying for a better day tomorrow..

kitty galore
19-08-2009, 19:35
yay! hello aug mummies! This is prob going to be a very quick post from me - I can just tell that Finn is going to wake in a minute!

TT - I hope everything is ok with your DS:fingerscrossed:

Teeda - I know exactly what you mean with bubs not settling, we thought this with our DD and were worried so much about reflux, wind etc etc. Sometimes it is something just as simple as bubs is just trying to find their posi in the universe! I know that sounds like maybe hippy bs - but sometimes if they are unsettled, they are just that, outa sorts. Hopefully it isn't reflux and it is just a matter of bubs being out of sorts.

Mimmi - you are a b/feeding champ! I am so fricking proud of myself that I too AM BREASTFEEDING!!:smiliedance: I can hardly believe it - I went through so much grief trying to b/feed my DD, and it was horrible and I encountered so much negativity from people for f/feeding her. I wanted to prove to myself that I can do it, and yay - I am!! I am feeling a bit of pain here and there, and sometimes Finn gets a bit fussy and worked up, but all in all, I am doing it! I saw a very yummy recipe in the b/feeding section for cookies that help boost lactation (although I certainly don't have an issue yet!!) but if it is good for feeding/me/bubs/family then why not - have a look at that recipe - I am getting the ingredients tomorrow!

anyway - enough from me - I think I have hit my wall for now!!

xxx
Nicole

p.s and I really have to change my sig and ticker!!! Arggrhhh!!!

Brood Mare
19-08-2009, 20:15
I have a relatively TMI question.

It's about Post labor bleeding. Lochia as apparently it's properly called.

I have had a little chunk here or there. But just before.. I had a piece which was pretty big. My DH saw it, and he is now insisting that I ring the hospital. I am not concerned, as I knew about chunks..
When it comes to this, when should ladies be concerned?

teeda
19-08-2009, 20:47
TripleTime, Mimmi & myprincessamelie - thank you so much for your replies. I am feeling a little more reassured now - I am hoping it is DS trying to settle into this big new world! Will try to burp him more maybe jic it is wind. DP is looking after him now and he seems a little more settled now, maybe he can just sense my stress.

TripleTime - *hugs* for you. I hope you find out what is wrong soon and everything is Ok. Thinking of you.

Mimmi - Re bleeding: On my 4th day is hospital, I passed something that looked a little odd, stringy looking and the size of about a 50 cent piece. I freaked but the midwife said that it was fine... didn't stop me from worrying though!

sim081005
21-08-2009, 13:00
I have finally come over to join the lovely August mummies. I feel weird not posting in the August due threads but time I came here.

I will do some more posting over the next few days. Just trying to mend my broken body. (cr*py immuine system that doesn't work)

firsttimeparents
21-08-2009, 18:06
Hi Aug mummies,

Well Bailey is now 9 days old and we have been home for 5 days now. Still trying to settle in and feeling overwhelmed, I also have been having the baby blues every day at the same time and can't stop crying. Just wish it would stop-went to the docs today and she said it was completely normal, has anybody else had this or having this? Any tips on how I can help my body to help my mind?

I too have been having issues with BF and was at the point of giving up. Was in so much pain and had to express which has made me extra tired.

Bailey is such a good baby at the moment (don't want to jinx myself lol).

I must say that I wish babies came with a manual!!!

Anyway will try and do some personals when I have fed Bailey.

Enjoy your night ladies!!
:flowerz::flowerz:

kitty galore
21-08-2009, 20:17
Hi Aug mummies,

Well Bailey is now 9 days old and we have been home for 5 days now. Still trying to settle in and feeling overwhelmed, I also have been having the baby blues every day at the same time and can't stop crying. Just wish it would stop-went to the docs today and she said it was completely normal, has anybody else had this or having this? Any tips on how I can help my body to help my mind?

I too have been having issues with BF and was at the point of giving up. Was in so much pain and had to express which has made me extra tired.

Bailey is such a good baby at the moment (don't want to jinx myself lol).

I must say that I wish babies came with a manual!!!

Anyway will try and do some personals when I have fed Bailey.

Enjoy your night ladies!!
:flowerz::flowerz:

Welcome to the parents thread firsttimeparents!!!
Yes, it is all very much overwhelming! I think the tears are all the hormones (I can only speak for myself though!). When we came home from hospy last saturday, my hubby was stressed, I was stressed, my DD was stressed and threw the HUGEST tantrum that night - we were all crying - all except the newborn, he just slept through it all!
It does get better, but if it doesn't, it sounds like you are fairly on top of recognising the signs..?
Maybe a walk or something, just to get out of the house? I have been feeling like I have been going stir crazy, and even if it just getting outside for a short while??
Are you still persevering with the BF? I have been expressing a bit to top up Finn for when my supply seems a bit low (usually dinner time).

TripleTime
22-08-2009, 07:22
I second that you need to be able to get out the house. Even if its just for half an hour. Fresh air does wonders for everyone.
We make a point of going for a walk on the weekend.

Mia78
22-08-2009, 14:18
Walks are a godsend for when bub is a little grizzly and you feel like you are going to lose it....just stick them in the pram and get out in the fresh air.

WTK
22-08-2009, 14:35
Hi ladies

Thought I'd pop my head in here and say hi. I haven't been around much lately, I just can't seem to find the time ... ? :)

Penny is 3 weeks old tomorrow, totally far out. 3 weeks already. I guess her first 2 weeks of life being in hospital speed the time up. She is pretty good really, I shouldn't be complaining. But and there is a but, she has a talent of not settling anywhere between 11pm and 2am. It must be her witching hrs because no matter what I do, she grumbles, cries, fidgets, whimpers, moans, creeks, squeels, sneezes ... I could go on. The health nurse suggests to could be what I've eaten during the day coming out in my milk which is very plauseable. So I've been told to lay off the garlic, chocolate, too much dairy and too much fruit just to see if that does anything for her. No results yet. Is it normal for new borns to make SO MUCH NOISE WHEN THEY SLEEP?????? Man alive, when she is actually asleep, Miss Penny is so loud, it keeps me awake wondering if something is wrong.

My bf is going really well. I'm lucky enough to have a milk supply for the whole of Victoria so I have about 15 expressed 180ml+ bottles in the freezer for back up, mainly for DF who has said he will help me out in the early hr feeds. He's a gem but I'll wait to see how long it lasts. I am a bit worried about DF tho. I think he's trying to do too much. He is keeping on top of the housework, dishes, cleaning up even mowed the lawns this morning. He is tired, given up smoking and laying off the beers cause he smokes when he drinks. He's freaked out a bit and ordered new flooring for the kitchen, we are going on Monday to pick a new stove and at the mo he is down the road buying a new ride on lawn mower! :confused: Is that normal for new Dads to go buy stuff?? He really doesn't look like he's enjoying any of the 'Penny' stuff tho. I'm a bit stuck as to what to do for him, I guess we will work it out along the way.

I must admit I have had thoughts of 'I can't believe its not me Df and the dog anymore'. Its all very well being pregnant, its a WHOLE different ball game being a Mum.

TT - massive :hugs: to you and your little one. I hope the experts can give you some answers.

Sim - I've been reading in the Aug chat thread all about baby Mason's kidney scare and never commented, sorry. I'm super stoked tho he doesn't have to have surgery tho. My wound also looked a bit manky there for a bit. With my extra 'cuddle bar' hanging down, its chaffed a bit and gone red but it's slowly coming good. Got massive shaving rash from the op also, not nice. The old VJJ blew up a bit because of all the rubbing, but again it seems to have gone down heaps.

Well ladies, I hope I can keep up with you all and will attempt to drop back in again and soon

TripleTime
22-08-2009, 15:15
WTK - Thank you, we have answers. He has silent reflux & is on medication.

Brood Mare
22-08-2009, 16:07
I find myself awake, when I am meant to be sleeping.
I just can't do it, it seems.

Keiran is 1 week today~ And today was my due date! It's gone so quick! Seriously.

I find it strange now when I put my clothes on, that there is no bump to rub anymore. I find it a little sad.

kitty galore
22-08-2009, 16:28
howdy ladies! It is quite amazing how quickly the time does pass!
TT - so glad you have some answers for your DS!!
WTK - my DH and your DF sound EXACTLY the same. AND my DH gave up the ciggs when I was pg, AND he is laying off the beers for the exact same reason. yes, he also goes to the shops and comes back few hundred bucks lighter - drives me crazy, then we have a big fight, coz he thinks I am picking on him. I am also worried he is doing too much - washing, dishes, cooking, looking after Amelie, bathing Finn, vaccuming, mopping, the shopping...the list is endless! I try telling him not to worry about the washing/dishes etc for one night, and he freaks that it is all going to get on top of us (and he is prob right!!). I sat him down the other night, and just told him that I was a bit worried that he is setting himself up for a breakdown. we had a good chat, and he has chilled a bit. I am able to do a bit more now too.
Mimmi - I TOTALLY hear you on missing your belly and feeling a bit sad. I was crying about this last night. Basically we are 90% positive that we are not having any more kids, and even though I love Amelie and Finn so very much, I feel really empty and sad. I miss feeling those reminder kicks, hell, I even miss the nausea, heartburn, uncomfortableness, all of it. And because it probably won't happen again, I feel even more sad. I guess it is in our make-up - women are nurturers and I guess we are designed to do this?!!? I wish I had've met my DH say 10 years ago, but I just feel more sad when I think about that, and it is pointless anyway!
Sorry this has turned into a ME post!! Sorry!

firsttimeparents
22-08-2009, 17:16
Yeah the past couple of days I have been getting out we had our first family outing today so that was really nice.

BF is still going the lactation consultant gave me a nipple shield to use so that he wouldn't graze my nipples so I will use this for a couple of weeks until his mouth matures and he doesn't graze them any more. It has been a godsend. Although BF is very tiring at the mo.

WTK: maybe DH is thinking that by doing all of this he is helping you so you don't have to worry too much about it?

TT: Now that you have a diagnosis and medication things should settle down.

Mimmi: I too miss my belly after I gave birth and stood up to shower I nearly fell over I felt light and empty and a little off balance.

Any ways off now to have some me time before my mum and nan fly home to Perth :(

Enjoy your night ladies

TripleTime
22-08-2009, 17:20
Day 3 on the med's & thing have settled. Now his cutting teeth.

WTK
22-08-2009, 18:33
WTK - my DH and your DF sound EXACTLY the same. AND my DH gave up the ciggs when I was pg, AND he is laying off the beers for the exact same reason. yes, he also goes to the shops and comes back few hundred bucks lighter - drives me crazy, then we have a big fight, coz he thinks I am picking on him. I am also worried he is doing too much - washing, dishes, cooking, looking after Amelie, bathing Finn, vaccuming, mopping, the shopping...the list is endless! I try telling him not to worry about the washing/dishes etc for one night, and he freaks that it is all going to get on top of us (and he is prob right!!). I sat him down the other night, and just told him that I was a bit worried that he is setting himself up for a breakdown. we had a good chat, and he has chilled a bit. I am able to do a bit more now too.





WTK: maybe DH is thinking that by doing all of this he is helping you so you don't have to worry too much about it?




Nicole, Jeez like peas in a pod. I can do most things now too and so I've decided I'm just going to do them without saying anything. Yes FTP I think that's how he sees it as well. I still feel guilty tho when I know I shouldn't.



I find it strange now when I put my clothes on, that there is no bump to rub anymore. I find it a little sad.

I was in the shower this morning and I could see my feet! It was a bizarre sensation but I've been pregnant 19 months out of the last 22 so I'm really enjoying not being pregnant anymore. In fact it was one of the first things I said after surgery! Nicole, we plan on having 2 more so I know I will be pregnant again. You poor thing I can imagine how you are feeling tho, I will no doubt feel the same in a few years time :)

Brood Mare
23-08-2009, 05:57
I am actually in complete shock at the moment, Keiran only got up once last night for a feed. And he is still asleep! Then why can't I sleep in?:confused:
Because I keep half expecting him to wake up any minute now for fooood~

sim081005
23-08-2009, 19:41
Hi ladies just a quick one to say that my wound is only open about 2cm open and about 3cm deep now. This is a HUGE improvement but I am told it will still be 2 to 3 weeks before it is completely closed again. Dame no house work for me for at least 4 to 6 weeks.

As for the DH, he is also over doing it as he is so worried that I will end up back in hospital but I am worried he will end up there with over doing it, not enough sleep, back at work and the fact that he works around excavators etc. He too gave up the smokes when I was preggers and the drinking almost stopped too.

Well until last night when he got to wet the babies head. I was went to only drop him off but got ropped in to staying as all the partners were there. Long story short I over did it and was exhausted and Mason was so unsettled that it took me over 1.5 hours to get him to sleep last night and he woke every 2 to 2.5 hours. Mason then early this morning gave him me the most wonderful present NOT. A sh!ty nappy that went all over the bed and onto the floor. Then while I was changing/cleaning him, he peed all over everything and then farted and followed through but all over me!!!! I tell you like I love him to pieces.

TT - so glad that you have gotten to the bottom of the cause and there is already improvement

WTK - I am hearing you on the shaving rash although mine is worse as I have to ripe off the dressing every day and it sits just on the pubic hear

Firstime - I still am finding little moments throughout the day of baby blues but nothing compared to the one day I got it and was histerical in the shower at the hospital. I think it is just the hormones and lack of sleep.

I too am finding it hard to believe that I have a child that is made from both DH & I and that it is no longer me, DH and the 2 dogs. I am so happy for it but it just feels weird still. Also weird that I can see my feet, can shave my own legs, sleep on my belly (well almost), where my non preggers clothes, get on the scales and see the numbers for myself (oh and I am loving those numbers as I am now lighter than I was pre Mason) and most of all I have a little man that I can gaze at anytime I want

teeda
23-08-2009, 20:38
TripleTime - great to hear that you have answers and he is on medication.

Sim - Glad to hear that you are healing well :)

firsttimeparents - I think that's its normal for our hormones to be all over the place in the beginning. I couldn't stop crying in the first 10 days after DS was born (they made me attend a physio class while in hospital and I must have looked like a mad woman crying while doing exercises). Although having said that, I think it is also important to look out for signs of PND & get help (which is seems like you are on top of). hugs to you.

I agree on the belly thing! I washed up after dinner for the first time since DS has been born, and my back didn't hurt from leaning forward!

Just a few questions from me... how will I know if my milk supply is low? I read somewhere that the suppy will always be enough for bub, but when I express, I can only get 10-20mls at one time? DS has been really unsettled lately, and I think its because he is still may be hungry after his feeds? I managed to express a bottle over a couple of days and after I gave him the bottle, he went to sleep easily, and did a 5 hour stretch overnight. I was hoping for advice on anything that can improve my supply as I don't think that I can keep up and I only want to go to formula as the last resort...

kitty galore
23-08-2009, 22:09
Just a few questions from me... how will I know if my milk supply is low? I read somewhere that the suppy will always be enough for bub, but when I express, I can only get 10-20mls at one time? DS has been really unsettled lately, and I think its because he is still may be hungry after his feeds? I managed to express a bottle over a couple of days and after I gave him the bottle, he went to sleep easily, and did a 5 hour stretch overnight. I was hoping for advice on anything that can improve my supply as I don't think that I can keep up and I only want to go to formula as the last resort...
Hey Teeda! I am not sure about what is supposed to be enough or not - I have been emailling with the aust b/feeding assoc ABA. They are really helpful, and once you are on the website, you can find nearest rep when you enter your p/code. When I was struggling last week, one member of the ABA offered to come round to my house to help me the very next day!
I think I might have the opposite - I think I have a fast supply. I can express 150mls within about 15 mins from one boob. I am finding Finn is falling asleep so quickly on the one boob and I just can't wake him up! I think he is pretty satisfied - he has been feeding close to every 4 hours since day 3.
If you have a look at the b/feeding threads, there is a recipe to make cookies that help boost your lactation - we made them yesterday and they are so yummy! quite healthy for the whole family! I have to fight my DD and DH for them!!

so to summarise my dribble - I reckon get onto the ABA and also have a look at making the cookies...

Brood Mare
24-08-2009, 06:57
Today, Keiran and I are going to the Hospital for his hearing test. We weren't in the hospital long enough to have one, and apparently, the centre is closed on Sunday's.

So yeah, I get to take his pram out for a big spin. Typical though it looks like it looks like it wants to bucket down....

Courtney83
24-08-2009, 07:58
HELLOOOOO! :wave:

I found it...hurray! It's great to see all you lovely ladies here, chatting bub talk. I'm glad to hear that you're all doing well, especially you Sim! I can't imagine how awful your incision getting infected would have been! Good to see you're getting better!
Oh and I can't believe you're all worried about your DH's and DF's doing too much housework! Mine is doing absolutely bugger-all!! :banghead: He is the laziest so-and-so you've ever met! He has had it so easy..My mum and dad stayed with us for the first two weeks after Amelia was born...now Amelia's godmother Jaymie is here for a week. DH has not altered his "work-and- that's-it" life in the slightest! My mum and Jaymie have done absolutely everything!
Anyway...Amelia is coming on in leaps and bounds. She's a bit confused though...:D... she sleeps ALL day, and is awake every two hours at night...:sleeping:
I'm suffering!! I swear, last night before I went to bed for my first two hours sleep, I was that emotional and crazy...lol...I'm fine now, but oh sleep- how I miss you!!

Does anyone else suffer from the irrational fear that something is going to happen to your bub? Whenever anyone holds her I'm constantly on edge that they're going to drop her or something...it's really getting beyond a joke. I am freaking myself out - and I wasn't like this with Lily - I am paranoid! I'm not sure whether I'll just get over it, or I should see someone. What do you guys think??

Anyway...I'll do more personals later- but I can hear my little squeaker signalling that it's her breakfast time!

Have a great day, and goodluck at the hearing test Mimmi! Hope the weather holds out!!

Brood Mare
24-08-2009, 12:29
Well, we made it to the hospital, it rained all the way there, but was beautiful and sunny all the way back,
He is actually still sleeping in the pram.

While we were there, he stirred, and was restless cause it turns out, he wanted a feed. So the hearing test was done while I breastfed him. He has great hearing! And did it all with a gob full of boob. He has made his father very proud lol..
He decided however to want a bum change as we were leaving the hospital, so a quick rush to the change rooms was done. I honestly thought though it being a hospital, that the change table would be something alot more hygenic looking. It was one of those plastic fold out tables. Because I am still figuring out what is necessary in your carry bag, I was almost hesitant to change his bum on it. I wiped it down with a sanitry wipe and got changing.
Made a quick stop at the shops on the way home, and he slept all the way home.

I am however beginning to have problems with him and wind. It makes him quiet restless sometimes, and he continues to act like he wants more food. I feel like I am over feeding him when I breast feed now. But after reading the hospital booklet, you can't over feed when you breastfeed, and feeding is meant to help with wind. So I feel like a giant cow now.
I burp him after each boob, and he still seems rather restless, even after a burp or a puke.. and he gets the hiccups now, along with the sounds of him guzzling to the point he chokes. Almost like he hasn't been feed period. He also is getting picky on which boob he likes more.

TripleTime
24-08-2009, 13:00
Mimmi - Have you got a change mat in your nappy bag?? That was one thing our had to have, no matter were we are (unless at home) they're changed on the mat.

Brood Mare
24-08-2009, 14:16
Mimmi - Have you got a change mat in your nappy bag?? That was one thing our had to have, no matter were we are (unless at home) they're changed on the mat.

I used a raggy wrap I keep for just in casies. It was alot more comfy for him.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that the in-laws cleaned my house top to bottom when i got home.

sim081005
24-08-2009, 14:40
Mimmi I am finding the same thing with Mason. He is now wanting to feed every 3 to 3.5 hours. Gone are the days he would sleep 5 hours straight at night. He also gets so upset with the wind and is finding it hard to bring it up and/or out. The nights are the worst as he just wants to go back to sleep.

The mw told me the other day that he could be going through a growth spurt and that is why he is demanding feeds more often and gutsing himself and causing wind. I am going to give it another week and see how we go

TripleTime
24-08-2009, 19:30
Sim - Try giving Mason Infacol, Infants friend or gripe water for his wind. We use infacol for our 3, makes all the bubbles in their bellies form one massive bubble & come up easier.
Just make sure you check the age limits first. We still had alot of hospital time ahead of us at 2 weeks.

teeda
25-08-2009, 20:21
myprincessamelie - thanks for the advice re aba! I am so jealous that you have lots of milk! I am now expressing more often and have started taking fenugreek tablets, and my milk supply seems to have increased. I have been expressing and giving DS bottles of EBM and he is now much more happier and ALOT more settled. Now that I think back, he was crying so much because he was hungry - and I feel like such a horrible mum that I couldn't even provide for him :(

Courtney - I hear you re lazy partners!! lol I ask him to look after DS and I go into the room and see bub lying on DP's tummy and DP paying Xbox! lol cute though.

Mimmi - I used Infants Wind with DS and works really well.

AFM, I am still trying to build up the courage to take bub out for the day! The thought of taking him out is so daunting!!

Brood Mare
26-08-2009, 07:59
Yesterday the maternity clinic midwife came over and gave me a run down on panflets like..

Sids
Do not Shake your baby
Things to remember
and a giant booklet filled on things you can and can not do with your baby.


The woman was pretty condescending, and actually made me rather upset.
I felt like I was going to cry during her grilling.
I think I was more upset with the idea that I had to see this woman another 10 times over the next 2 months, that really got me more upset.

My MIL has been very supportive since she has been staying here.
I think I would of lost the plot a few times this week without her helping out.

TripleTime
26-08-2009, 10:26
Yesterday the maternity clinic midwife came over and gave me a run down on panflets like..

Sids
Do not Shake your baby
Things to remember
and a giant booklet filled on things you can and can not do with your baby.


The woman was pretty condescending, and actually made me rather upset.
I felt like I was going to cry during her grilling.
I think I was more upset with the idea that I had to see this woman another 10 times over the next 2 months, that really got me more upset.

My MIL has been very supportive since she has been staying here.
I think I would of lost the plot a few times this week without her helping out.

Ring the hospital & ask for someone else.

I did it with CFHN

JimJamsMum
27-08-2009, 10:13
Grrr, just posted and it got lost in cyberspace. So I shall try again:)

Hi Ladies, I've been stalking for a bit and now have some time to post.

Mimmi I agree with TT, ask for someone else. It's no big deal, some people just don't gel and if you're going to be seeing so much of her I think you'd benefit from seeing someone you like.

MyprincessAmelie - glad to hear Finn is such a great feeder. It makes life so much easier, doesn't it.

Teeda - I know how daunting it can be to take bub out. Why not start small and build up from there. It does get easier with practice.

AFM - I just have to have a little boast. Had Daniel weighed on Tuesday and he has gained 1.6kg in 4 weeks!!! That's an average of 400g per week. I knew he was getting fat but WOW!!! I'm excited. It's such a great feeling knowing he's doing so well just on my milk.

Gotta dash, he's just woken for a feed. Have a great day

Spinny
28-08-2009, 11:01
Hello - I wondered where everyone had gone to.

It's great to read everyone posts to see that we are all having similar issues.

Courtney83 - I feel the same, not with people holding her but I will check on her every few mins when she is sleeping to see she is still breathing and if I hear a funny noise I run in and check that she is OK - I'm sure it will get easier once I work out all her little sounds.

Has anyone been to their mothers group yet? I started mine last week and went to my second one yesterday - I would highly recommend them for 1st time mums, you will find out that what you are experiencing is EXACTLY the same as everyone else and it's good to be able to talk to grown ups and I've found a few of the ladies live around the corner from me so we are going to go for walks to make sure we get out of the house even if it's for a hour or so each day.

AFM - Maddison sleeps all day and stays up all night wanting to feed every 2 - 2.5 hrs, apparently they get night and day confused when they are first born (or so I've been told) so I'm clingy to that and hoping we can turn that around soon - she is 15 days old today so I know I can't expect too much just yet.

Brood Mare
28-08-2009, 12:19
The in-law invasion is just about over, the SIL and her fiancee are still here, but the larger bulk has gone for their plane.

JimJamsMum
28-08-2009, 12:33
One way to get bub's body clock adjusted is make sure their room is light during the day when they are sleeping. Then at night the room is dark. If the room is dark during the day then they can't tell night from day.

Spinny
28-08-2009, 14:03
Ah thanks JimJamsMum that makes sense I'm not distinguishing between night and day and making it dark in her room when she is sleeping, will keep the blinds open a bit during the day. :thumbsup:

daisy4300
28-08-2009, 14:47
AFM - Jet is now 3 weeks and 5 days but after settling in well the first couple of weeks, he has started to become very unsettled - there have been many tearful nights (me included) - it has been so hard to get him back to sleep once he has woken, and he seems to be in pain after his feeds. His face goes all red and he arches his back :( - i am going to take him to the gp tomorrow, but I have read somewhere something about reflux? Any advice on how I can tell if he does have reflux and if there are any solutions to getting him to sleep better? I have resorted to rocking him to sleep in my arms, but I don't want it to turn into a habit. HELP!! (sorry for going on but it just upsets me so much when he cries so much)
Thanks in advance....

If it's reflux, reflux babies sleep better on their tummy. I know this is a no go zone for risk of sids but so long as bubs has good head control they should be right. All my babies have been tummy sleepers except for this little man. My nephew was a reflux baby and the only way they could settle him was on his tummy with the mattress raised slightly. My sis and I went to a breastfeeding clinic where you stay overnight and they tried forever to settle him every other way and as soon as they did this he settled.



Mimmi - you are a b/feeding champ! I am so fricking proud of myself that I too AM BREASTFEEDING!!:smiliedance: I can hardly believe it - I went through so much grief trying to b/feed my DD, and it was horrible and I encountered so much negativity from people for f/feeding her. I wanted to prove to myself that I can do it, and yay - I am!! I am feeling a bit of pain here and there, and sometimes Finn gets a bit fussy and worked up, but all in all, I am doing it! I saw a very yummy recipe in the b/feeding section for cookies that help boost lactation (although I certainly don't have an issue yet!!) but if it is good for feeding/me/bubs/family then why not - have a look at that recipe - I am getting the ingredients tomorrow!

Great job myprincessamelie and mimmi with the breastfeeding! Keep it up girls!!


Well Bailey is now 9 days old and we have been home for 5 days now. Still trying to settle in and feeling overwhelmed, I also have been having the baby blues every day at the same time and can't stop crying. Just wish it would stop-went to the docs today and she said it was completely normal, has anybody else had this or having this? Any tips on how I can help my body to help my mind?

I too have been having issues with BF and was at the point of giving up. Was in so much pain and had to express which has made me extra tired.

Bailey is such a good baby at the moment (don't want to jinx myself lol).

Yeh I'm with you. Not feeling so bad now but for the first 2 wks I had nipple thrush, breastfeeding was excruciating and I have felt miserable, crying at the drop of a hat. I'm still taking it one day at a time and don't feel miserable now just tired. Not coping quite as well as I'd like but I know it won't last forever and that things will get back on track again soon. We have been eating a lot of takeout at the moment which stresses me a bit because it just makes it a little easier but I know it won't last forever either and we'll get into a routine with everything again soon. I just take one at a time and thats the best advice I can give you.


she has a talent of not settling anywhere between 11pm and 2am. It must be her witching hrs because no matter what I do, she grumbles, cries, fidgets, whimpers, moans, creeks, squeels, sneezes ... I could go on. The health nurse suggests to could be what I've eaten during the day coming out in my milk which is very plauseable. So I've been told to lay off the garlic, chocolate, too much dairy and too much fruit just to see if that does anything for her. No results yet. Is it normal for new borns to make SO MUCH NOISE WHEN THEY SLEEP?????? Man alive, when she is actually asleep, Miss Penny is so loud, it keeps me awake wondering if something is wrong.
Connor did the whole 11pm to 4am thing where he wouldn't sleep or settle for the first 2 days then when my milk came in he settled. Some take a bit longer i guess and they have a growth spurt around 3 wks then again at 6 wks. They tend to get quite unsettled at 6 wks. Sometimes it can be foods your eating. My 2nd I couldn't eat cauliflower. Trial and error with that to figure out if it is. Sometimes they are just outta routine or rather trying to establish one. And yeh they can make so many little noises. I stir and wake with every sound because he sleeps beside my bed in his bassinet.


we have answers. He has silent reflux & is on medication.
Glad to hear you guys have answers now and things are going well.



I am also worried he is doing too much - washing, dishes, cooking, looking after Amelie, bathing Finn, vaccuming, mopping, the shopping...the list is endless! I try telling him not to worry about the washing/dishes etc for one night, and he freaks that it is all going to get on top of us (and he is prob right!!). I sat him down the other night, and just told him that I was a bit worried that he is setting himself up for a breakdown. we had a good chat, and he has chilled a bit. I am able to do a bit more now too.
Mimmi - I TOTALLY hear you on missing your belly and feeling a bit sad. I was crying about this last night. Basically we are 90% positive that we are not having any more kids, and even though I love Amelie and Finn so very much, I feel really empty and sad. I miss feeling those reminder kicks, hell, I even miss the nausea, heartburn, uncomfortableness, all of it. And because it probably won't happen again, I feel even more sad. I guess it is in our make-up - women are nurturers and I guess we are designed to do this?!!? I wish I had've met my DH say 10 years ago, but I just feel more sad when I think about that, and it is pointless anyway!
Sorry this has turned into a ME post!! Sorry!
I also have been saddened by the fact this is our last. I have been pregnant and breasfeeding for the past 8 yrs so although it will be nice to finally have my body to myself again and to finally do something for me, I'm also going to miss it. Miss being pregnant (most people I know haven't seen me not pregnant, :laughing:) and miss breastfeeding. Miss the whole baby stage. My 18 mth old has just had another growth spurt and wants to play with his siblings more than have mummy cuddles anymore which is good in a sense as I have more time for bub but I miss him not wanting his mummy so much as well.



Mason then early this morning gave him me the most wonderful present NOT. A sh!ty nappy that went all over the bed and onto the floor. Then while I was changing/cleaning him, he peed all over everything and then farted and followed through but all over me!!!! I tell you like I love him to pieces.
Connor did this to me the other day, it was sooo funny. I changed him on the lounge, he farted and followed through all over me. DH thought it was quite funny too, that it wasn't him. :D




Just a few questions from me... how will I know if my milk supply is low? I read somewhere that the suppy will always be enough for bub, but when I express, I can only get 10-20mls at one time? DS has been really unsettled lately, and I think its because he is still may be hungry after his feeds? I managed to express a bottle over a couple of days and after I gave him the bottle, he went to sleep easily, and did a 5 hour stretch overnight. I was hoping for advice on anything that can improve my supply as I don't think that I can keep up and I only want to go to formula as the last resort...
Drink plenty of water darl. I read things were improving which is great but do make sure to drink min 2 litres of water a day when your breastfeeding. Great that your persisiting. Your doing well darl.



I'm suffering!! I swear, last night before I went to bed for my first two hours sleep, I was that emotional and crazy...lol...I'm fine now, but oh sleep- how I miss you!!
Does anyone else suffer from the irrational fear that something is going to happen to your bub? Whenever anyone holds her I'm constantly on edge that they're going to drop her or something...it's really getting beyond a joke. I am freaking myself out - and I wasn't like this with Lily - I am paranoid! I'm not sure whether I'll just get over it, or I should see someone. What do you guys think??
Sleep deprivation can be a nasty thing. The paranoia can be from lack of sleep, anxiety as well.



I am however beginning to have problems with him and wind. It makes him quiet restless sometimes, and he continues to act like he wants more food. I feel like I am over feeding him when I breast feed now. But after reading the hospital booklet, you can't over feed when you breastfeed, and feeding is meant to help with wind. So I feel like a giant cow now.
I burp him after each boob, and he still seems rather restless, even after a burp or a puke.. and he gets the hiccups now, along with the sounds of him guzzling to the point he chokes. Almost like he hasn't been feed period. He also is getting picky on which boob he likes more.
If you have too many probs darl, get in touch with a lactaction consultant who can observe your feeding and offer advice.

AFM I hear some of you on the whole DH wearing himself thin thing. DH gets up in the morning, gets the boys ready for school, girls ready for childcare on their days, gets the kids brekky, changes the dirty nappies, puts the 2 littlies back down for their morn nap, gets himself ready for work then drops kids at school, childcare then off to work. He has just gotten a promotion at work but is still doing his old job plus the new one because the other bloke has been taking time off or being slack, so doing 2 mans worth of work then comes home, cooks tea, baths the kids, gets them ready for bed. All I have to do is feed the baby and look after him basically. DH even changes bub's nappy through the night for me too and gives him a burp through the night. On top of all that he sits up til 1am ish on the PC just chilling out on his game for him time which is great but i'm worried with the lack of sleep he's going to break down/get sick. Oh and he takes his lunch break at work a bit later in the day just to pick the kids up from school/childcare so I don't have to walk to get them in the heat. I would love to do something for him to let him know how very special he is and how wonderful he is being. And after all that he still manages to let me know how much he loves me, how he thinks i'm beautiful and tells me how he is a happily married man. I'm sure with all that pressure other men might run for the hills :). He has been truly wonderful. Any ideas girls? He even missed out on going to the races the other day to be home to help me with the kids and now can't go til next year.

AhelenA
28-08-2009, 20:45
:wave: Hi Ladies, I found it! Also finally found time for the computer as Beau is now 11 days old, and for the first time, is sleeping for more than 2 hours.

I would love to do personals, but I think I am too knackered, just wanted to say congrats to the ladies who are going well with the breastfeeding, even though this is my fourth b/f baby, I am struggling with feeding my little man. He has been a 2-3 hour feeder since birth, and would love to use his mum as a full time dummy.

I too am paranoid about something happening to him - even to the point of having trouble sleeping when he is asleep. Also still struggling with prolonged baby blues, I think because of the sleep deprivation.

Daisy - your husband sounds wonderful! I am glad that he is helping out so much. Don't know what you could do that would be special for him, but I am sure that you will think of something wonderful!

Oh, and I have to say that I am sooooo bad at changing little boy nappies! After 3 girls, I just can't get the whole covering of the bits before they pee on you thing down! Nearly every nappy change, I am getting peed on :rolleyes:, I almost think he does it on purpose because it makes his sisters laugh.

Sorry, very much a 'me' post. Still a bit in shock that he is here and our family is complete. Like Daisy, I have been pg or b/f for 7 years and I am already missing my pg tummy and the feeling of bubs moving inside me. Had a little cry last night about that, and was feeling rather silly, so thanks for sharing ladies, it has made me realise that it is normal to mourn the end of the era, so to speak.

Am hoping that I will get more organised and find the time to pop on BH more. I start back at work on Monday and am a little stressed about how I will manage everything, but talking to the ladies here always helps me to calm down and put things in perspective. Thanks gals!

Spinny
29-08-2009, 07:23
AhelenA - OMG you are going back to work on Monday - how good are you, do you work from home or need to go to an office. I hope that work is flexible for you so you don't get too stressed out, just remember you still need to look after yourself and get plenty of rest (if you can).

Brood Mare
29-08-2009, 08:02
:wave: Hi Ladies, I found it! Also finally found time for the computer as Beau is now 11 days old, and for the first time, is sleeping for more than 2 hours.

I would love to do personals, but I think I am too knackered, just wanted to say congrats to the ladies who are going well with the breastfeeding, even though this is my fourth b/f baby, I am struggling with feeding my little man. He has been a 2-3 hour feeder since birth, and would love to use his mum as a full time dummy.

I too am paranoid about something happening to him - even to the point of having trouble sleeping when he is asleep. Also still struggling with prolonged baby blues, I think because of the sleep deprivation.

Daisy - your husband sounds wonderful! I am glad that he is helping out so much. Don't know what you could do that would be special for him, but I am sure that you will think of something wonderful!

Oh, and I have to say that I am sooooo bad at changing little boy nappies! After 3 girls, I just can't get the whole covering of the bits before they pee on you thing down! Nearly every nappy change, I am getting peed on :rolleyes:, I almost think he does it on purpose because it makes his sisters laugh.

Sorry, very much a 'me' post. Still a bit in shock that he is here and our family is complete. Like Daisy, I have been pg or b/f for 7 years and I am already missing my pg tummy and the feeling of bubs moving inside me. Had a little cry last night about that, and was feeling rather silly, so thanks for sharing ladies, it has made me realise that it is normal to mourn the end of the era, so to speak.

Am hoping that I will get more organised and find the time to pop on BH more. I start back at work on Monday and am a little stressed about how I will manage everything, but talking to the ladies here always helps me to calm down and put things in perspective. Thanks gals!

Keiran is just as bad when it comes to peeing on his mummy. I have pretty much named it as target practice, and he always gets his target.
Daddy however; Keiran has a nasty business of going poopy in the bath with daddy. I think it's an objection to being in the bath. He HATES baths, screams like a banshee.

Keiran has his little photoshoot tomorrow with my DD's god daughter. I am looking forward to this, I'll make sure to post some when I get them. :yes:

Spinny
29-08-2009, 11:21
Mimmi - I'm so lucky Maddison LOVES the bath when she is a bit upset her daddy puts her in the bath and she calms down straight away.

We don't get peed on as such having a girl but every second day I have to wash the change table protector as Maddison times it as soon as we take off her nappy she pees on her little outfit and the protector, haven't been pooped on yet!

Brood Mare
29-08-2009, 12:37
Mimmi - I'm so lucky Maddison LOVES the bath when she is a bit upset her daddy puts her in the bath and she calms down straight away.

We don't get peed on as such having a girl but every second day I have to wash the change table protector as Maddison times it as soon as we take off her nappy she pees on her little outfit and the protector, haven't been pooped on yet!

I envy mummies with happy bathers. I want to try the shower while breast feeding approach, but I am afraid of dropping him.

My son however has mastered the art of projectile vomiting. Can hit things in long distance, and totally miss himself.

Spinny
29-08-2009, 14:33
Mimmi - we got a first real vomit this morning until now it was just a dribble out of the corner of her mouth. I had just feed Maddison and she made this funny sound so I sat her up and the next second she had milk projecting out of her mouth and nose :barf:, it was quite horrifying to watch, then I couldn't help myself and I burst out laughing so much DF had to take her off me to change her - thank god she totally missed me

Butterflyqld
29-08-2009, 17:14
Hi Everyone

Joshua is one week old today. Everything seems to be going fine. Sleeping well during the day, but as I have been reading most of our babies love the night life. He gets restless around 8:30 - 11:30 and is feeding constantly. Then wakes up for a feed around 3:30. I think!!! I need my sleep!!!! It is so hard to sleep during the day.

Daisy - Joshua was born in Room 1. My DH was sleeping in the chair by the end of the day.

I have had a bit of a cry now and then. It is alot different with two under two. Trying to tell my son to be gentle. Dinner time is the hardest.

Ahelena - Good luck going back to work!

I will have to definately do some more personals. But I need a shower and my eyes are already closing. Not looking forward to the next few hours.

Who lives in the western surrounds of Brisbane or Ipswich? I read the Melbourne girls are getting together. Maybe we can as well. :smiliedance:

kitty galore
29-08-2009, 21:41
Hey Lovely August Ladies,
this is probably a bit of a jumbled post - bit tired and exhausted at the moment!
Firstly, good to see some of you other Aug Ladies making your way over here, will be good once we are all settled and sorted!
Ahelena - I can't believe you are going to work?! Is it your own business!?! I don't think I could even add up properly at the moment - for me, even stringing a sentence together is a struggle!
Daisy - you are the response queen - I love how thoughtful you are and how you make sure you have responded to everyones queries/comments - how do you even multi quote????!!
OK - here is my little whinge - I OFFICIALLY HATE WEARING BRAS!!! OMG! even though normally I am a DD cup but I don't wear bras when I am at home. Now that I am b/feeding, I am in bras 24/7 literally! I got so sick of it the other night, I said bugger it, I am not wearing a bra, even if for 30 mins. Within 5 mins, my t-shirt was saturated! GRRR!!! by about 6.30pm my back, shoulders everything aches, feels like my bras are made of barbed wire!! OK, whinge over!
my boy Finn is feeding and sleeping so well (I know it could change in an instant - but I want to still enjoy this!). He is literally on 3-4 hourly feeds, and has been since he was born. generally sleeps midnight til 6 am ish...apart from last night, he is a bit snuffly, so we were up from 5 am, and I just nursed him in the recliner, he and I slept there until my DD woke us at 7.40am.
He has also got that horrible angry red pimply rash on his face - I know it apparently doesn't hurt them, but it just looks so ouchies!! Hope it clears up soon!
OK enough about me - and I can't wait until our last two lovely ladies, Pangari and ClareN join us over here!!

xxx

JimJamsMum
30-08-2009, 05:30
Well it looks as though Pangari might be on her way. It was looking pretty exciting early this morning and no more news from her yet.

Daisy - have you thought about something simple such as cooking his favourite meal for him?

Myprincess amelie - what about getting some of those Bonds nursing singlets. They are more comfortable than normal bras but still give you coverage and support.

For those of you getting peed on by your little boys make sure you have a cloth on hand and keep him covered while you do the nappy change. Then you won't get wet :)

AHelenA- good luck going back to work. Make sure you take it easy as your body is still recovering.

AFM - I have had mastitis. It came completely out of the blue. On Friday I was feeling fine then suddenly I got a shocking headache and started getting chills. Noticed a small red mark in my breast. No better on Saturday so went to the doctors for antibiotics. So to anyone BF, if you get something similar make sure you get on to it early because it is nasty.

Have a night out with some friends of mine for this week. Just dinner at a local restaurant which should be nice. First time away from bub which is always a bit nerve-wracking but should be fine.

Brood Mare
30-08-2009, 06:02
I can relate with hating wearing bras. I also hate having no clothes that make BF a breeze. I obviously didn't plan far ahead enough in this department. I think it was because I was almost convinced that I wasn't going to be able to.
But seriously if I could walk around topless all day, I would. But feeling like a leaky faucet doesn't make for a good day.
I have been lucky to steer clear of mastitis so far. Although I can finally say, my boobs have settled down and don't look big enough to explode.

Bubs only got up once last night for a feed and is currently sleeping still.

I am annoyed because we got Keiran's birth certificate this week, and is now MISSING after the in-law invasion. Along with a gold bracelet his aunty had given. It's apparently a family heirloom..
The house is still not 100% clean, but it's a work in progress. The DH has been doing a good job getting this place back to normal.
I also feel like we are washing clothes everyday.

On a high note, today we have my dad's god daughter coming over to take some pictures of bubs.
I am concentrating on getting this place warm enough to keep bubs drowsy through out. I'll give him a good feed before, and see how things goes.
As I said earlier, I'll post the pictures as soon as I get a hold of them.

daisy4300
30-08-2009, 09:51
Joshua is one week old today. Everything seems to be going fine. Sleeping well during the day, but as I have been reading most of our babies love the night life. He gets restless around 8:30 - 11:30 and is feeding constantly. Then wakes up for a feed around 3:30. I think!!! I need my sleep!!!! It is so hard to sleep during the day.
Daisy - Joshua was born in Room 1. My DH was sleeping in the chair by the end of the day.
I have had a bit of a cry now and then. It is alot different with two under two. Trying to tell my son to be gentle. Dinner time is the hardest.
Who lives in the western surrounds of Brisbane or Ipswich? I read the Melbourne girls are getting together. Maybe we can as well. :smiliedance:

Connor was born in room 1 also and has the same routine. I hear you on the two under two. I'm forever telling my 18 mth old to be gentle with bub. He's usually pretty good but can get excited.

I think this is a great idea for a get together.




Daisy - you are the response queen - I love how thoughtful you are and how you make sure you have responded to everyones queries/comments - how do you even multi quote????!!
OK - here is my little whinge - I OFFICIALLY HATE WEARING BRAS!!! OMG! even though normally I am a DD cup but I don't wear bras when I am at home. Now that I am b/feeding, I am in bras 24/7 literally! I got so sick of it the other night, I said bugger it, I am not wearing a bra, even if for 30 mins. Within 5 mins, my t-shirt was saturated! GRRR!!! by about 6.30pm my back, shoulders everything aches, feels like my bras are made of barbed wire!! OK, whinge over!
my boy Finn is feeding and sleeping so well (I know it could change in an instant - but I want to still enjoy this!). He is literally on 3-4 hourly feeds, and has been since he was born. generally sleeps midnight til 6 am ish...apart from last night, he is a bit snuffly, so we were up from 5 am, and I just nursed him in the recliner, he and I slept there until my DD woke us at 7.40am.
He has also got that horrible angry red pimply rash on his face - I know it apparently doesn't hurt them, but it just looks so ouchies!! Hope it clears up soon!

There is a box next to the quote box for multi quote.
I know what you mean with the bra 24/7. I end up with bra chaff under my arm. Now my boobs have settled more I can take it off while I'm watching telly at night then will put it back on to sleep with.
I think the rash your referring to is milk rash from breastmilk which will just settle on its own.




Daisy - have you thought about something simple such as cooking his favourite meal for him?

AFM - I have had mastitis. It came completely out of the blue. On Friday I was feeling fine then suddenly I got a shocking headache and started getting chills. Noticed a small red mark in my breast. No better on Saturday so went to the doctors for antibiotics. So to anyone BF, if you get something similar make sure you get on to it early because it is nasty.

Have a night out with some friends of mine for this week. Just dinner at a local restaurant which should be nice. First time away from bub which is always a bit nerve-wracking but should be fine.

Yeh still not sure what to do but fathers day is around the corner so he's starting to give me a few ideas.
Ouchie for the mastitis. Been there and know what it's like. Hopefully it clears soon for you darl. It really knocks you around.
Enjoy your night out, sounds lovely.

Whitey78
30-08-2009, 15:52
Hellooooo !!!! :wave:

Nice to be here with you all 'on the other side'!

Have just had a quick skim over your posts so far and my mind is blurry, so no personals from me just yet, instead just a quick update.

Angus is 8 days old now and so far so good. He is a really good sleeper but we're still trying to get the day/night thing sorted out. I am waking him during the day for four hourly feeds and trying to give him some awake time at feeds during the day so he'll keep his longer sleeps for night time. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't but I have to keep reminding myself he is ONLY a week old and there is no such thing as a routine just yet. I feel so awful waking him, but if I don't he'll sleep for 5+ hours during the day and then wake every 2 during the night.

Anyway I am loving being his mum, but it is still very surreal, like someone is going to come and take him any day and we'll go back to our old lives!
Also I am wondering why didn't anyone ever tell me BF would hurt so much!!!! turns out I have 'sensitive nipples' so no matter what I do and no matter how well Angus latches on it still KILLS! It is easing a bit and is now only really stabbing for the first minute or two - used to be for the whole feed. Am perservering and waiting for that wonderful day when it doesn't hurt and is pleasant!

Anyway I must go, but it is wonderful to be back in touch with all the Aug BH mummies! It will be so great to continue sharing our journey.

JimJamsMum
31-08-2009, 04:57
Whitey- welcome!! Glad to hear Angus is going well. Sorry to hear about the sensitive nipples, I hope it gets better for you really soon.

Well, as they say, every cloud has a silver lining. Bub slept for only 1.5hrs yesterday morning and then nothing for the rest of the day. I finally got him to sleep at 8pm last night after spending the whole day feeding him every 1.5 - 2 hours. Well I was rewarded by him sleeping for 8 solid hours :yelclap: After feeding him at 4am I got up and did some yoga and I feel fabulous. Now I'm just stealing a few moments on bubhub before the family wakes up. Like everyone else I can't remember the last time I got an unbroken night's sleep so last night was bliss.

On the mastitis front, it has all cleared up and I'm feeling much better. I was a bit worried about the effect the antibiotics would have on bub but there hasn't been a problem. The doctor prescribed me a staph-specific antibiotic rather than broad spectrum which he tells me is why there's been no bad effect on bubs. So yay!!

Still no news from Pangari but hopefully we can celebrate the end of the month with a new baby (or two!) :fingerscrossed:

TripleTime
31-08-2009, 08:29
Pangari popped!!

Courtney83
31-08-2009, 09:11
Hi Girls!

:laughing:...I'm sorry, but I find the "little boy" issues so funny. My SIL has a 13 week old boy, Riley, and I find it so amusing, when she's changing his nappy, to see her pounce on him with another nappy to cover his bits.
She reckons that one day (in the beginning - before she knew what to do) he was screaming and screaming, so she changed his nappy, and before she could do anything- he weed into his own mouth!! She was horrified, but couldn't help it and cracked up. Apparently that stopped the screaming!!
We're with you, AHelenA...both my SIL and I have had a girl each, and have no experience with boys! Now I have two girls, and am yet to be weed on :D.
Congrats to all you girls breastfeeding. It's such an accomplishment isn't it. I breastfed for a while, but Amelia is on bottles now. We had a few difficulties, but now she's settled and sleeping much better.
Whitey, I know! I have sensitive nipples too- how much does it KILL?? It literally took my breath away and I felt like I was going to cry - sometimes I did- but it does feel nice to have them so close.
As for us, Amelia is four weeks old on Thursday. We go shopping, we go out for dinner, we go to friends' houses, we drop Lily off at school- and she's great. She is an absolute angel during the day...but at night...she's still waking up every 2/3 hours which will eventually drive me insane! Lol..nah, it's ok- all she does is have her bottle then go back to sleep. And how can you be frustrated when you see their little face smiling up at you?
But yeah, WTK and Daisy, Amelia sleeps in her bassinett next to our bed- right next to my head- so any sound she makes wakes me up instantly. She makes this funny kind of grunting noise...it sounds cranky! She makes that noise and I think she's awake, but she's not. She also makes this really nice murmuring noise when she has her bottle. Aww...love!

Anyway...sorry about the mammoth post- I'll be checking in more regularly now that all my visitors are gone and I have more "me" time!

Mimmi - can't wait to see the new pics of Keiran! I'm going to start that new photo thread if it hasn't been started already!!

Take care girls!!


Oh and btw...I'm no longer paranoid about something happening to Amelia. I think I was just stressed and a bit anxious, like you said Daisy. It's overwhelming bringing a new bub home, it's a tough job we have girls, but well worth it xx

Spinny
31-08-2009, 10:03
Courtney83 - how funny I was just talking to my early child care nurse this morning about Maddison grunting ALL THE TIME while she is asleep this morning and she said not to worry it's just them dreaming or working out what sounds they can make, it had me worried like she had a cold or something.

Whitey78 - :iagree:how much does breast feeding hurt, in the begining I was kicking the coffee table when Maddison first latched on so I didn't transfer the pain into my hand that was holding her, it felt like she was trying to suck glass through my nipple, it has got a little bit better and each day is better than the previous, I did get nipple shields and used those for a few days (I did find them a bit messy, milk would run down her face and onto my top) and now I don't need them so I think we both have finally worked it out how to make it work - I have to keep remembering that she only 18 days and neither of us have done this before.

firsttimeparents
31-08-2009, 10:06
Hi ladies,

I hear you ladies about the little "boy issues"-it certainly is an art you must master early on otherwise if you are like us we have had wees/poos all over our bed, us and Bailey has peed on his face too. Whilst it is funny at the time it is quite annoying at 3 in the morning having to change everything :laughing:

As for Bras my size is too big to wear the bonds maternity singlets but they are really comfortable and would be my choice did they make them in a bigger size than 14dd :(

Whitey I hear you about the sensitive nipples. i went to a lactation consultant and she gave me a nipple shield to wear because Baileys mouth is too immature and whilst he is latching correctly he is still grazing the nipples and man did it kill, but after wearing the nipple shields he cant graze my nipples so it's working out well for now. :)

Glad to hear everyone is doing well. We have my sister and some of our friends and there 2 kids staying with us and had a trip to the snow booked so here we are at Mt Hotham Bailey and I are rugged up and nice and warm inside whilst everyone else is outside snow boarding :) Was a little hesitant at first to bring Bailey here but the maternal health nurse said that people take babies away all the time and as long as he was kept warm there would not be a problem. DH has booked me into the day spa here for tomorrow morning for some pampering and he is going to look after bubs so am looking forward to that.

I too am finding that Bailey is not sleeping as much during the afternoon and waking for a feed every 2-3 hours at the moment I think he is starting to go through his 3 weeks growth spurt. BF is soooo tiring I feel like all I am doing is changing pooy nappies and having my boobs out feeding hopefully it will start to get less tiring as time goes by.

Any way enough of my rambling-enjoy your day ladies!!!
:flowerz::flowerz:

daisy4300
31-08-2009, 10:13
Also I am wondering why didn't anyone ever tell me BF would hurt so much!!!! turns out I have 'sensitive nipples' so no matter what I do and no matter how well Angus latches on it still KILLS! It is easing a bit and is now only really stabbing for the first minute or two - used to be for the whole feed. Am perservering and waiting for that wonderful day when it doesn't hurt and is pleasant!
Sounds like you are doing wonderfully darl. 3-4 hourly feeds is great and BF can be painful sometimes. I've just had nipple thrush which is excruciating or things like mastitis can make it painful too. If your nipples are sensitive then you could try nipple shields to help protect them more but if they're getting better then chances are they are starting to toughen up and may be right. If you have too much pain or probs see a lactation consultant who might be able to offer more advice.




Well, as they say, every cloud has a silver lining. Bub slept for only 1.5hrs yesterday morning and then nothing for the rest of the day. I finally got him to sleep at 8pm last night after spending the whole day feeding him every 1.5 - 2 hours. Well I was rewarded by him sleeping for 8 solid hours :yelclap: After feeding him at 4am I got up and did some yoga and I feel fabulous. Now I'm just stealing a few moments on bubhub before the family wakes up. Like everyone else I can't remember the last time I got an unbroken night's sleep so last night was bliss.

On the mastitis front, it has all cleared up and I'm feeling much better. I was a bit worried about the effect the antibiotics would have on bub but there hasn't been a problem. The doctor prescribed me a staph-specific antibiotic rather than broad spectrum which he tells me is why there's been no bad effect on bubs. So yay!!


The fact that bub's fed so much yesterday would have been tiring i'm sure but great for the mastitis. Bub's would have helped feed through the infection/blockage. If you get on to mastitis straight away, sometimes you can get bub just to feed it away without antibiotics. I got a touch of it before the nipple thrush and bub fed to get rid of it. Glad to hear you're feeling better and bub slept so well.

TripleTime
31-08-2009, 10:15
I can safely say James has never peed on me. Did hit the top of his humdi crib though.

Nadine25
31-08-2009, 12:54
Hi Ladies,

I have finally had some time to join you all in here. I had mum staying with us last week whilst DH was at work finalising things before he takes holidays (he has 4wks off as of today) so I didn't have a chance to use the computer.

Mia is doing fairly well. During the day she is a dream. Just eats, has a bit of awake time then sleeps but we have had issues with her being unsettled in the late afternoon and then again after her early morning (1am/2am) feed. After that early feed she has been quite unsettled and grizzly for 3-4hrs. I went to a candle party yesterday and a lady there said her DD (now 14yrs old) did exactly the same thing. She used infacol for her daughter and said it worked a treat. So we started using that yesterday afternoon and Mia woke 4hrly overnight for feeds and settled very well after them. So I am hoping the infacol is working and that it isn't just a one off thing. I googled her signs etc and it sounds like colic (settled one minute, crying and going all stiff with the back arching the next minute, then goes calm again.... etc). it's so hard to watch as you feel so helpless but fingers crossed that the infacol has worked!

Mastitis- Yep, I have had it and am still on antibiotics for it. I had it with DD too so I knew what to look out for. It comes on very suddenly and it feels like you are getting the flu and your boob aches and has a red and hot spot.

How is everyone's other children coping with the new addition? Kayla (3.5yrs) is doing ok. She was great to start with but has become a little naughty in the past week. Her attitude has picked up a notch and she has had trouble with going to bed (screaming, crying and carrying on). It's a huge adjustment for them but I am hoping she adjust soon LOL. She loves Mia and gives her cuddles and kisses etc so that is one good thing. I think it is more the fact that she has to share the attention now. Something she has to get use to and I have been told it can take up to 3 months.

Brood Mare
31-08-2009, 13:10
I am currently looking after a very restless baby. Keiran is 2 weeks and a few days, and I feel like no matter how much he drinks, he just can't get enough.
I burp him, and I get a good burp sometimes. The moment he dozes off, I slip him into his bassinette and he is awake again. He has hardly slept all day. The longest he has slept has been 10mins. It was long enough for me to do some dishes.
I haven't been able to go do much of anything. Even eat!

firsttimeparents
31-08-2009, 13:21
I am currently looking after a very restless baby. Keiran is 2 weeks and a few days, and I feel like no matter how much he drinks, he just can't get enough.
I burp him, and I get a good burp sometimes. The moment he dozes off, I slip him into his bassinette and he is awake again. He has hardly slept all day. The longest he has slept has been 10mins. It was long enough for me to do some dishes.
I haven't been able to go do much of anything. Even eat!



Mimmi I completely understand Bailey did this to me yesterday arvo. Every time he went to sleep (in my arms) I would put him to bed and he would wake again, so I take him out and he sleeps again in my arms and the same thing happens it started from lunch time until 9:30 last night :( He has also been feeding every 2-3 hours starting yesterday and continuing into the night. He also is nearly 3 weeks so maybe its because they go through a growth spurt at 3 weeks......

Hopefully it settles down soon
:flowerz:

Nadine25
31-08-2009, 13:29
Mimmi- Even though it is hard and draining, it is very normal for them to have days like you are describing. It may be due to a growth spurt too though. Huge :hugs:

TripleTime
31-08-2009, 13:43
Mimmi- Even though it is hard and draining, it is very normal for them to have days like you are describing. It may be due to a growth spurt too though. Huge :hugs:

:iagree:

Growth spurt is highly lightly. Brace youself for 6 weeks & 12 weeks.

It does get easier i can tell you that.:hugs:

Courtney83
31-08-2009, 13:43
Oh you guys, I can sympathise with everything you're all saying.
Nadine- I have noticed that Lily has become a tad naughtier in the past week or so. Just being really stubborn, sooky and not listening to me. I feel sorry for the eldest child, I mean, Lily was the centre of our universe for the last five years- it must be hard for her, but she's not making it very easy on me either!
And Mimmi and firsttimeparents- Amelia likes to do the old "make her think I'm asleep then squark" trick. It sucks! As I said earlier, she's an angel during the day, but at night- :dizzy:. She has a bottle, goes to "sleep" in my arms, then I quietly slip her back into her bassinett...and lo and behold...I see her WIDE-AWAKE eyes glinting up at me in the lamp-light. Lol...I tell you what!!

Can someone please give me some tips on changing her sleep schedule? She sleeps all day (with an hour or so awake time- sometimes a few hours) but still wakes up like every two hours at night. Any suggestions?

TripleTime
31-08-2009, 13:51
Courtney - Try to keep her awake. Both Girls tired it for a few days till i cottoned on to their tricks. I know try to keep them awake for as long as possible during the day. We now get sleepy nights.

Brood Mare
31-08-2009, 13:58
Thanks ladies :)

He is eating every 2hrs, and today, it was like every 30mins, which made me wonder if I was burping him to early.

He is finally sleeping now. A bit grumbly.

I guess I am a little overwhelmed again, because I had a whole bunch of people here, my MIL was here to help me out when I needed it. And my DH was home to reassure me.
Today is my first day alone since week one. And I felt like I was doing something wrong, because he has been restless all day..

Spinny
31-08-2009, 15:23
Mimmi, Nadine25, Courtney83 & firsttimeparents - Maddison is doing exactly the same to me. Feeds during the day then has a bit of play time, sleeps for about 2.5 hrs then starts all again but ususally is wide away from about 1:30am till 4:30am and grumbles the whole time no matter how much I feed her. Before we know it will be get better and we will be geting 6 hours sleep a night :fingerscrossed:

Butterflyqld
31-08-2009, 16:07
Spinny, Mimmi, Courtney, Nadine & Firsttimeparents - Joshua is feeding every two hours sometimes doesn't even stretch to one hour. Not sure what to do. A midwife said a good feed is anything over 15 minutes. I am not exactly timimg his feeds, but I am sure he is achieveing this. I am changing his nappy in the middle (which is saturated: sometimes have to change in between as well) and putting him back on.

Not worried that he is not getting enough. My doctor weighed him today and he has put on 500g.

But I am exhausted. I am doing the night feeds in bed and sometimes fall to sleep before changing his nappy.

He doesn't sleep well in his cradle. I put him down and when my eyes close, he starts crying. But he drifts off straight away when in my bed.

And I also have done my pelvic floor. Every time I go to the toilet for 1s & 2s I get extremely sharp pains. It all started four days ago when I had a tummy upset. Oh the pain :crying: I knew straight away I done something. I had no control! :eek:

Tripletime - :) You are a champion x 3! It is hard work with one.

Brood Mare
31-08-2009, 16:23
Spinny, Mimmi, Courtney, Nadine & Firsttimeparents - Joshua is feeding every two hours sometimes doesn't even stretch to one hour. Not sure what to do. A midwife said a good feed is anything over 15 minutes. I am not exactly timimg his feeds, but I am sure he is achieveing this. I am changing his nappy in the middle (which is saturated: sometimes have to change in between as well) and putting him back on.

Not worried that he is not getting enough. My doctor weighed him today and he has put on 500g.

But I am exhausted. I am doing the night feeds in bed and sometimes fall to sleep before changing his nappy.

He doesn't sleep well in his cradle. I put him down and when my eyes close, he starts crying. But he drifts off straight away when in my bed.

And I also have done my pelvic floor. Every time I go to the toilet for 1s & 2s I get extremely sharp pains. It all started four days ago when I had a tummy upset. Oh the pain :crying: I knew straight away I done something. I had no control! :eek:

Tripletime - :) You are a champion x 3! It is hard work with one.

I think you should probably talk to your midwife/doctor about your 1's & 2's. See if they can suggest anything for you.
My MIL told me a way to strengthen your pelvic floor, is try and hold your no1, a couple of times when you need to go, during midstream.

I am also very tired. I have however started BH now at night in bed. I lay down and feed him, and fall asleep while he is feeding, to wake up to find him asleep as well. I then shift him into his cot. It makes things a little easier for me, mainly because it's only a few seconds awake, rather then long time frames awake, which causes me to be more tired.
My only issue I have about this, is the small chance I might roll on him. But I am a bit of a paranoid sleeper. I am asleep, but very aware that he is there. So I semi sleep.
I make sure that if he wakes up a second time, which he does, around 1 or 2am. I change his bottom then.
My issue is napping during the day. I just can't do it. Too paranoid he'll wake up.

TripleTime
31-08-2009, 17:08
Mimmi - It could be that your DH has gone back to work & his noticed. I know the first night DF went back to work after 2 weeks it was hell on ice for me. They are the same every monday now.

TripleTime
31-08-2009, 17:17
Tripletime - :) You are a champion x 3! It is hard work with one.

Just do what you gotta do. We got to ease into it over 7 weeks, helped alot.

Nadine25
01-09-2009, 09:23
Well I am pretty sure Mia has silent reflux :( I thought it was colic but I went onto the reflux site and printed off all the signs/symptoms for silent reflux. I could tick about 80% of them. So we are off to the GP this afternoon to see what he says. She is only 2 weeks old (today) so I am not sure if they can do anything for her yet..... It's so hard seeing her in pain :(

oscarjessie
01-09-2009, 09:30
Yesterday the maternity clinic midwife came over and gave me a run down on panflets like..

Sids
Do not Shake your baby
Things to remember
and a giant booklet filled on things you can and can not do with your baby.


The woman was pretty condescending, and actually made me rather upset.
I felt like I was going to cry during her grilling.
I think I was more upset with the idea that I had to see this woman another 10 times over the next 2 months, that really got me more upset.

My MIL has been very supportive since she has been staying here.
I think I would of lost the plot a few times this week without her helping out.

Hi There,

I was due in July but had my bubs in August - so read this thread all the time...but only sometimes post because I feel like I am invading....hope it is ok if I post :)

You poor thing....I had a midwife visit the day after I left hospital and she was a big cow. I had just woken up and was having some b'fast and she arrived and the first thing she said was....just because you had a c-section this time does not mean you have to next time...as if that was the most important thing on my mind with a new baby at home!

She then talked me through my labour and blamed me for having a prosterior baby - she said I had "obviously" spent too much time sitting slumped on the couch leading up to the birth....ahhh hello I worked until 38 weeks and then spent all of my time on a fitball trying to turn DS! She then went on about how the fact I had an epidural was also a reason why I ended in an emergency c-section and that I should have done it drug free as it was wrong of the midwife on duty to talk about drugs with me. The fact that I had already gone through about 10 hours of labour without any sleep and was puking my guts up and was in prosterior labour did not warrant having pain relief! And then the old "i had a prosterior baby naturally" line came in too.

After she left I was in tears and felt so low for a few days because I felt like I had failed...DF was so angry that she had been such a cow too.

Ring the hospy and ask for someone new. You should not have to put up with someone like that after having a baby when you are so tired and adjusting to all of the changes. It took me about 2 weeks to get over the visit and I was so emotional as a result when I should have been enjoying the time with my new baby!

Take care,
c xx

TripleTime
01-09-2009, 09:36
Well I am pretty sure Mia has silent reflux :( I thought it was colic but I went onto the reflux site and printed off all the signs/symptoms for silent reflux. I could tick about 80% of them. So we are off to the GP this afternoon to see what he says. She is only 2 weeks old (today) so I am not sure if they can do anything for her yet..... It's so hard seeing her in pain :(

DS has silent reflux as well. His 3 weeks corrected & its on 10mg of Losec daily & thickened formula. Was on Anti-reflux formula but refused to drink it after 2 days.
Quicker you get on top of it the better, once everything is working & in their favor they pack on the wright like no ones business.

Nadine25
01-09-2009, 09:43
Thanks Krystal. DD actually has no issue with her weight gain. She has actually put on more then enough (600g in 1 week) but apparently this can be common in those reflux bubs that like to comfort suck (so I have read). How long has he been on the Losec for?

TripleTime
01-09-2009, 09:57
Welcome. Been on Losec for 2 weeks on thursday (i think). Silent kids dont loose as much as spewy kids due to not spewing. Silent kids tend to not want as much each feed cause it hurts. DS was having about 100mL's during the day with each feed. His now having about 160mL during the day.

sim081005
01-09-2009, 10:13
Hi ladies

Sorry but I have been MIA. Mason has been really unsettled the last 4 or so days with bad wind. We have tried a few things but have found that showers help heaps and walking around with him in my arms tapping his bumb works best.

Also found that putting socks on the inside on his onesies and a jacket have made the difference to the sleep he is getting. He still only sleeps for about 3 to 4 hours day and night with the odd 2 hour but he is going back to sleep much quicker.

DH & I are still trying to master the art of nappy changing. I seem to have gotten the nack quicker than DH as almost once a day I hear DH scream as Mason has got him again. I find it so funny. We also have the problem of Mason flooding his nappy but this is due to the kidney holding on and then releasing so much at once and a little nappy can't hold it all.

Went to the MCHN yesterday for Mason's 2 week check even though he is now 3 weeks. He has only put on just under 200gm in 10 days but has grown 3cm in 3 weeks!!! The MCHN is not worried about his smaller weight gain as he has had a growth spurt. He is 'advanced' in his strength and sight so I am one proud mummy.

As for me I am slowly on the mend. DH is now doing my dressings which is easier. I am still about 3 weeks away from completely being right. I am feeling much better but not much energy. This will get better and I am eating really well and having high in iron meals.

Is anyone else still having bouts of the baby blues? I had it yesterday and wanted to just run for the hills or tell DH I am going back to work so you can stay home. I pulled myself together but it isn't like me.

As for the bra issue. I am SO over bras. As I am a G cup now, my shoulders, back etc etc are so sore and even with a bra on with breast pads, I still manage to flood my t's. I used to sleep in the nude (sorry TMI) but I have no hope now and it is driving me nuts!!!! I also have just finished bleeding and then start my period. Oh to be a woman

Sorry about the mamoth post and that it is all over the place but that is where my brain is at.

PS I am going to cook some of the breast feeding cookies today as they can also improve the quality of your milk.

firsttimeparents
01-09-2009, 13:17
thanks for the rassurance ladies that things will get better. People say the first 6 weeks are the hardest and then things get easier, but I tell ya what it seems like forever until the 6 weeks :(

Sim-I am also having bouts of baby blues, I think it's a mixture of hormones and lack of sleep. Hopefully things sort themselves out soon.

For those ladies with bubs who have silent reflux what are the symptoms?


Bailey has been unsettled the past few nights he is ok to go to sleep in my arms, but as soon as he is in his bassinet he will wake up and cry. Last night I put him in bed with us and he only woke for food. Any one have any advice for this?

Brood Mare
01-09-2009, 14:56
thanks for the rassurance ladies that things will get better. People say the first 6 weeks are the hardest and then things get easier, but I tell ya what it seems like forever until the 6 weeks :(

Sim-I am also having bouts of baby blues, I think it's a mixture of hormones and lack of sleep. Hopefully things sort themselves out soon.

For those ladies with bubs who have silent reflux what are the symptoms?

Bailey has been unsettled the past few nights he is ok to go to sleep in my arms, but as soon as he is in his bassinet he will wake up and cry. Last night I put him in bed with us and he only woke for food. Any one have any advice for this?

I had the exact same problem last night with Keiran, in the end, I broke, and whippedd out the dummy... he slept soon after.

sim081005
01-09-2009, 16:34
Mimmi I gave in ages ago on the dummy but only use it to help get him to sleep or bring up wind. Some nights we don't even use the dummy

firsttimeparents
01-09-2009, 16:40
Ha yes the dummy has been out for a while, but like you Sim he only needs it occasionally and only when he is going off to sleep otherwise he will use my nipple as a dummy to go to sleep with. I always said I would not use a dummy, but unfortunately we don't chose the type of baby we have so if it settles him and me then why not.

Whitey78
01-09-2009, 16:43
Hi everyone

Sim - yep I am having bouts of "oh my god I am going to cry, get me outta here!". Also feeling very much like I am doing this all on my own. DH spends about 30mins with Angus at bathtime and the rest of the time it is all down to me. Could be because my mum has been here until this arvo - or maybe he's finding it hard, we'll have to have a chat I think. Anyway I know the teary moments are due to hormones, but logic doesn't help when you just need a good cry and a big hug!

Mimmi I have been resorting to the dummy too. Angus is addicted to sucking and he just can't suck on me all the time! I feel bad for using it (not sure why) but it works when he's unsettled, so I'm following the theory of: If it works and I get more sleep and he gets more sleep - do it!

Firsttimeparents - see above theory for my thoughts on sleeping with bub! If it works then I'd do it.

AFM - had mat & child heathcare nurse here today. Didn't warm to her immediately but she's all we've got out here. She told me she doesn't run mother's groups in our area, which almost made me cry. I was SO looking forward to meeting up with some other mums as I'm feeling pretty isolated and alone at the moment. Anyway she's in town every Tuesday and just told me to come in every week anyway and I'll meet others there - I will do that but it just isn't the same.
I have a friend coming over tomorrow who has 2 kids and another on the way, she lives about 15mins away, so I'm really looking forward to having a chat to her and will just have to make the effort to catch up with her and other friends with bubs more often.
Needless to say, the lack of mothers groups here made me even more grateful to have all of you there to ask for advice when I need it!

Sorry for long post, hope all of you have a good night!

Oh PS trying to change my ticker but can't find the user control panel - any hints???

Brood Mare
01-09-2009, 17:15
Whitey & Sim - My dad pretty much gave me the "No Dummy" lecture the same day he was born. So I thought I'd try and see how long I could last without one. When I gave in, I felt so guilty doing it.
A friend of my MIL has been really good with advice, especially about BF and Dummies. Here i'll post it.


Over the next few week, Keiran will probably show different signs of things. Don't worry about your milk, it's probably, actually not likely that it's drying up already. He is going through some major changes right now. His hormones are adjusting to the outside world, milk and other things. You will find him restless at all sorts of times. Sometimes it's best not to feed him too often, because he'll use you as a dummy (have you given him a dummy yet???) I found that if my tiny babies were restless all the time, I would give them a little water (from a sterilised bottle). This helps if they are a little dehydrated, and also teaches them to use a bottle. It also stops you feeling like you need to feed him. If you feed too often, then there won't be enough for his major feed time. He'll get used to crying and then feeding. He won't recognize that he's not hungry at the right times.

Take from that what you will. She has been rather helpful. And has helped me feel better about alot of decisions I have made.

.. I am having a deja vu moment...

kitty galore
01-09-2009, 17:54
Great advice both from Whitey "if bubs is happy = sleep = me sleep" - brilliant! And I love what your MIL's friend told you Mimmi - very wise, I think!
Me personally - on dummies - I used them with Amelie, and now with Finn - but I only gave it to them at sleep time - Amelie had her dummies at sleep time in cradle/cot only, and she was fine. I am doing the same with Finn. Just me though. I don't see any big deal with it!

daisy4300
01-09-2009, 18:24
Hi girls Warning this story is upsetting. We had some devastating news tonight.

I can't stop crying. Just got off the phone to one of my gf's who was 32 wks. She just lost her baby girl. She hadn't felt her moving so got it checked out and she had gotten the cord wrapped around her and managed to get 2 knots in it. There was no heartbeat so they induced her and she delivered on saturday. I feel so upset. Here we are celebrating our beautiful babies and she was so close to doing the same. It was their 2nd. We just cried on the phone together. Sorry my update is upsetting but I needed to share with someone. DH isn't quite as emotional being a guy i guess. I just wish I could make it all go away for her and make it better

I guess on a brighter note though we are all well other than our sad news and Connor is in a great routine.

TripleTime
01-09-2009, 20:53
Im all for dummies!! Helps improve the suck reflex & helps with reflux.
DS has his after every feed to settle his belly & stop him spewing.If we arent quick enough to give it to him, he'll spew.
At this age i dont see anything wrong with them.

Veronica - Sorry to hear about your friends loss. My cousin lost one of her twin boys at 24 weeks.

WTK
01-09-2009, 21:42
Oh Daisy, I know that feeling all too well :( I;m so sorry for your friend and for you who have to deal with hearing such sad news. 12 months ago today we said goodbye to our son, I can't believe how fast the time has gone and we still miss him so much. :hugs::hugs:

Brood Mare
01-09-2009, 23:42
So sorry about your friend Daisy, that is very sad news. Send her our love and condolences, it has to be very hard.
:hugs::hugs:

I found out today (yesterday according to the time - midnight feedings what a blessing) also, that the lady who was giving me lifts to work, lost hers a week after I finished work, I had no idea and messaged her the other day asking how her baby was.. I got no reply, and had my mother telling me why.. I felt rather bad, because bringing that up for her wouldn't of been good either. I knew it meant alot to her, as it was her last real chance to have a baby..

On a quick change of subject, if it's not too personal for anyone. How long was everyones bleeding? I am almost done, but I am getting tired of wearing surf boards all the time.

daisy4300
02-09-2009, 08:01
So sorry about your friend Daisy, that is very sad news. Send her our love and condolences, it has to be very hard.
:hugs::hugs:

I found out today (yesterday according to the time - midnight feedings what a blessing) also, that the lady who was giving me lifts to work, lost hers a week after I finished work, I had no idea and messaged her the other day asking how her baby was.. I got no reply, and had my mother telling me why.. I felt rather bad, because bringing that up for her wouldn't of been good either. I knew it meant alot to her, as it was her last real chance to have a baby..

On a quick change of subject, if it's not too personal for anyone. How long was everyones bleeding? I am almost done, but I am getting tired of wearing surf boards all the time.

I did that once too Mimmi. I'd just had one of my babies and rang a friend to tell them the good news and left a message on her answering machine. She was livng with her mum at the time who had not long had a baby herself. When my friend rang me back she'd told me that they had just lost the baby to sids. I felt shocking because her mum had got my message. Her Mum was good about it though and was happy for us but I felt so bad.
Thankyou for all the kind wishes girls. Only time will help her heal I guess. I just wish there was more I could do for her and her partner to help ease her pain.
As for bleeding Mimmi, My little man is 3 1/2 wks old now and I still have light bleeding. With the others I have generally finished after a wk or 2 but I hear it can be up to 6 wks post birth for some.

sim081005
02-09-2009, 09:31
daisy I am so sorry for you & your friend. It is times like these that you are so grateful for what you have

Mimmi - I thought I had started my period but no, I am still bleeding but only a little bit. Every now & then I get a heap. I am finding that now it is more like (sorry TMI) lots of egg whites with blood in it. I also get a bit that looks like my plug but as I never got to see mine not sure. I assume that with a c-section it would have been removed or gone by now. I am also getting like lots of period type pains. Is anyone else?

Gosh I sound like I know nothing about my own body

daisy4300
02-09-2009, 10:34
It sounds like there may be an infection there Jess. Not sure what the difference is with blood loss after a c section as I haven't had one. I had after birth pains which can be like period pains but they generally ease up after a couple of days i think then again i'm not sure on the difference with this between normal delivery/c section. Maybe check it with the health nurse or doc just to be sure

Spinny
02-09-2009, 11:21
daisy4300 - Oh I'm so sorry to hear about your friend loosing her baby, how sad :crying:

I agree regarding what works for you and the baby works and no one should judge you for it. I use the dummy occasionally and switch it around so she will get it to go to sleep sometimes and sometimes not, I also try to pull it out once she has gone to sleep as she keeps me awake at night sucking it (I'm a very light sleeper). Also if it's 3am in the morning and I've tried to feed her and settle her and she is not co-operating I wrap her up and put her in bed with me and she goes to sleep straight away - I must admit I don't go back to sleep as I'm very aware that she is next to me and after an hour or so I'll put her back in her bed.

AFM – I’m trying from today to get Maddison into a bit of a routine, until today I’ve pretty much been on whatever schedule she was choosing but am finding she is only sleeping 2.5 hrs at nights so am trying to feed her then give her some play time before I put her back to bed and also putting her in the quiet bedroom instead of in the lounge room where the TV is on. I’m also trying to get her to settle herself instead of either feeding her or patting her to sleep hoping she will be able to go back to sleep at night and give me a few more hours sleep….wish me luck. :fingerscrossed:

Brood Mare
02-09-2009, 12:57
Just got back from the Maternal Health clinic for Keiran's 2 week check up.
He has gained 300gs in 1 week. The crabby midwife/doctor lady was very impressed with him. That was until he pee'd everywhere. What can I say, he wasn't happy being prodded and bent and poked in every which way. :rolleyes:

Spinny
02-09-2009, 14:15
Mimmi - how funny sounds like the crabby lady deserved to be peed on - GO KEIRAN!!!! :smiliedance: Also congratulation on the weight gain.

Courtney83
02-09-2009, 14:29
First of all, Daisy, I'm SO sorry to hear the devastating news.Your poor friend, how awful...and you too WTK, big hugs on your sad anniversary...I really feel for you girls. I can't imagine how difficult it must be, to lose a baby so close to the end. My thoughts and prayers are with you guys :hugs:.

And Whitey, with Lily I suffered from the baby blues (which actually developed into PND) because I felt so overwhelmed and isolated so I can relate to how you're feeling. We lived in a small beachside community, and there was one mothers group available, so I went along. They were all so rude to me, (I was only 20 when I had Lily and they were a lot older and VERY snobby)...no-one spoke to me and I left feeling very upset and alone. You have to think of the positives that you have, you have friends nearby that have kids, at least you can always meet up with them, and go along to see the healthcare nurse on Tuesdays because there will be other local mums there. Maybe you guys could start your own mothers group?
My DH (I use the term LIGHTLY atm) also spends hardly any time with Amelia. I feel like if she would have been a boy he would have showed more interest- he even says he dislikes babies when they're this young because he's scared of them and they can't do anything - he doesn't seem to have really bonded with her yet, which is upsetting.
I also bawled when my mum went back to Sydney...she was a major safety net/comfort blanket to me...and I was nervous about how I was going to go on my own. Does your mum live anywhere near you? Hang in there, you'll be ok. This is your first bub and it's totally normal to feel a bit overwhelmed and emotional about it all...just make sure you're ok. Don't let it get away from you, and if you continue to feel really down and anxious, talk to your mum or a midwife, they'll be able to help :hugs:.

With regards to dummies, I'm with you Nicole and Krystal. I don't see anything wrong with using them, and I don't feel any guilt related to them...dunno...I guess everyone has their own opinion. Lily never took a dummy, but Amelia likes them- she just likes to suck, it comforts her and helps her to settle, and I agree with you girls, we should just do what works for us :yes:. Any extra sleep is good sleep in my books!

Oh the bleeding (TMI WARNING!!!!)..well mine has almost completely stopped. I get days where there might be a tiny bit of dark brown blood, and I'm still wearing a panty-liner (no more surfboards Mimmi! :laughing: I haaate them! Imagine what it would have been like for our great-grandmothers! *Shudder*). Apparently the bleeding is quite different with c/sections and natural births...I can't say, I've never had a natural birth, but with my caesars, I've only really bled for about two weeks. Not really mucousy either, Sim...just red blood for the first week and a half or so...then fading away to dark brown. Not very heavy at all. Maybe you should ask your doctor or midwife about your discharge?



Ok woah...long post...:sunshine:HAPPY SPRING!!:sunshine: - oh and woooo! Go Keiran! That'll teach the old bat!

Brood Mare
03-09-2009, 08:15
Well, I am slowly going insane I think. I think the baby blues have started to catch up with me. I am not blaming myself for every little thing that goes wrong, I am more or less frustrated and get angry when things don't go my way. And it really is due to being tired all the time.
I am having problems doing the nap thing when bubby naps. Mainly cause I am almost certain all the time, the moment my eyes close, he will wake up. His timing is impecable. The moment I sit down to eat, the moment I lay down, he wakes up.

Last night, he was changed, fed and clean, and he refused to sleep. I knew he was tired, but everytime I sat him in the cot, he'd cry. I try using the dummy, he either screwed up his face as it touched his lips, and not open his mouth, or take it, then spit it out again. Then continue to cry. My DH gets up, puts the dummy in his mouth, and he sucks away and goes to sleep. Naturally after an hour of trying to get him to sleep, and my DH does it in seconds, I start crying, just cause I am both tired and frustrated.

This morning didn't shape up to be much better. He was changed, fed and then settled to a sleep, and just as my DH head off to work, he threw everything up, all over his clothes, his bassinette, and in his hair. Then he was grizzly cause well, he had an empty stomache again. He is now in and out of sleep with his dummy. Not really giving me much time to sleep. I am too afraid to go eat now, incase he cries.. and I am also avoiding making more dirty dishes to clean... Almost tempted to go out and just get breakfast.

Whitey78
03-09-2009, 08:46
Courtney - thanks for the words of encouragement. I had a blubber the night I made the last post and felt better yesterday and today, think it is just hormones. I will have to make the effort to make new friends and to catch up with others who are also home with kids so I don't feel so isolated. I've realised Angus won't be this small and demanding forever and I will slowly get better at going out, so it will get easier as we go along.

Mimmi - this is a hard job isn't it! It is way harder than I thought. Hang in there, I feel your frustration when things aren't right with bubs and you can't work out why - if only they could tell us what is wrong.

AFM - Angus is doing very well, he is crazy for boob and is doing very well for it, he's already over his birthweight and he's not even 2wks old so that helps me know that I must be doing something right (even though most of the time I just make it all up as I go along!).
His heel prick test was contaminated and so I am waiting for the local MW to come out to re-do the test, she was supposed to be here at 9am and I was actually organised and ready for her then ... but she's still not here! Could have had a bit more time in bed, but sleep is over-rated isn't it ...

Have a good day all you Aug mums and bubs :)

daisy4300
03-09-2009, 08:56
It does get tough Mimmi. It's up and down raising babies. The sleep deprivation doesn't help because we don't cope as well as we normally would then the hormones/baby blues on top of it all. I completely understand the whole, 'don't get time to sit, eat, fart' scenario. It gets hard to fit anything in around a newborn because they are so demanding at times. It sounds to me as though you're doing a fine job. You sound tired to me and really need to take whatever you can get sleep wise, even if it is 5 mins at a time, it's all rest. Make sure to keep your fluids up breastfeeding, this is important so you don't dry up. 2 litres min a day. And when he goes down, grab a quick snack, even if you have to let bub have a cry while you grab something to eat. I can't strees enough how important it is to look after yourself, eat, drink and sleep. Without this we don't function as well and our coping mechanisms aren't as good either and this is when the Baby blues/PND can creep up on us.
As for bub taking the dummy from Daddy straight away and settling better this might be because Daddy is feeling less stressed. They pick up how we are feeling and know when we are tired and/or stressed and get upset by this. I know it sounds silly but it's true. Try getting some rest and have a good feed and drink, see if this helps you feel a bit better and see if you notice any difference with bub. :hugs::hugs:

sim081005
03-09-2009, 11:41
Mimmi I am so sorry you feel this way but I can relate. We all have good & bad days and I certainly get the days where nothing I can do is right but daddy does EVERYTHING right. I know you are doing everything right as your little man is outting on wonderful weight.

Not sure if this helps but I buy items like celery etc and cut them up and store them in containers so that I can just grab them on the run, even while holing a screaming baby. The other thing I have is a bowl of nuts as they are high in iron and they are easy to eat.

I also can not nap during the day but I feed Mason in the morning about 8ish and then put him back to bed with me and we both nod off for another hour or so. Not sure if that is possible for you.

Fingers crossed things pick up for you

Brood Mare
03-09-2009, 12:40
Well, i attempted the nap thing again. Still no progress.

ANYWAY! Anyone got their Father's Day present prepared for Sunday?

sim081005
03-09-2009, 12:55
Yep I have DH's present. He is getting a book called Why I love My Dad. Each page is written by a child explaining why they love their dad

TripleTime
03-09-2009, 12:56
Well, i attempted the nap thing again. Still no progress.

ANYWAY! Anyone got their Father's Day present prepared for Sunday?


You'll get there, just takes time :yes:

DF's fathers day present is at my parents house in hiding.

Trips had a weigh in this morning

Tahlia - 3.89kg
Aleah - 4.24kg
James - 4.74kg

Little beef cakes :yelclap:

Courtney83
03-09-2009, 13:06
I don't sleep during the day either...I dunno...when Amelia is asleep (she sleeps a LOT during the day)...it's my ME time. I do all the things I need to do in the peace and quiet.
Is Keiran awake a lot at night? If you do want to try to nap during the day, there's no harm in just laying on the lounge for a while...if he wakes up, he wakes up. Same as when you want to get something to eat...if he cries, let him cry for a minute...it's not going to hurt him to have to wait. Do you have a bouncer or a swing or something? Pop him in that (if he's awake) and let him see you while you're getting some lunch and eating.
I know how stressful it can be with your first baby. I know how their cries make you feel, you can panic, get upset, get frustrated, feel helpless...but just try to be like, "Life's not THAT bad!" and let them cry for a minute!

You're doing an awesome job Mimmi, like the other girls have said. We all feel a bit emotional at times...but we'll get through it! You ALWAYS get through the hard weeks...soon we'll have roly-poly 4 month olds that we'll all photograph wearing santa hats at Christmas time...then sitting up 6 month olds who are eating solids!

The best advice my MIL has given me is that babies love routines.

Oh Fathers Day...um...right. Yes, so far I have bought DH a big fat nothing!! He has a concreting business and works pretty hard in the heat so I think we'll go away for the wkend. I was thinking Port Douglas or Mission Beach...he can have a massage ect. There are so many resorts around here I'm sure I can find a good wkend package or something!!


AFM- I'm a bit concerned that I may be falling into an old trap. I'm already concerned about my diet ect..quickly wanting to lose the 10kg I've put on, plus 5kg extra that I want to shift. I've had an eating disorder in the past and I really hope I can ignore these feelings that are starting to creep up on me- I mean - my God...it's only been 4 weeks since I've had Amelia!! Is anyone else having early weight issues??

Courtney83
03-09-2009, 13:07
Yep I have DH's present. He is getting a book called Why I love My Dad. Each page is written by a child explaining why they love their dad

OMG Sim! That's so cute! I'd cry if I read that!

Brood Mare
03-09-2009, 15:35
Aww Sim! Thats so cute!!

I got 2 books.

First one is "Best Dad"
http://assets.fishpond.co.nz/9780007293636-crop-325x325.jpg

And "How to Talk to Dad" I like this one alot. It was written by a 9yr old boy, on how Daddies work, and how to handle them.
http://www.harpercollins.com/harperimages/isbn/large/0/9780061729300.jpg

And lastly, a ninja voodoo doll :)
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/b6/3/AAAAAtp4p30AAAAAALY6qw.jpg?v=1198189808000
"Ninja - He is a loyal ninja and will only work for you, his master. He will help you acheive your goals in life"

Whitey78
03-09-2009, 16:29
Father's day present!!!! Are you serious - didn't I just give him a child!! I think I'm mean, I just got DH a card.

Have had very major plumbing issues at our house. Apparently steel pipes don't last much longer than 80yrs ... our house is older than that and we have had water leaking under our house for god knows how long. Luckily DH is handy and he's managed to fix it all after 2 days of solid plumbing. Got through pretty unscathed with just one night and day with no cold water in the bathrooms, so no showers but at least we still had normal supply in most of the house.

Hmm perhaps that does deserve a present after all!

JimJamsMum
03-09-2009, 17:51
Mimmi sorry to hear you're having a hard time at the moment. The combination of hormones and exhaustion can make things pretty tricky at time. Here are some things I have found useful
- don't feel guilty about ANYTHING. Don't let people make you feel bad about the decisions you make. You are doing the best you can and you're doing a darn good job.

- when bubs is unsettled I find it useful to carry him around in a baby carrier. I have an ergo and it is brilliant. Am even able to breastfeed bubs while chasing DS1 around the park. Also great while cooking dinner during the witching hour if DH isn't on hand

- I have got myself a copy of 25 ways to joy and inner peace for mothers. It is from the same authors as 25 ways to awaken your birth power which I used when I was pregnant. It's very relaxing and uplifting and I make sure I lay down and listen to it every day. It is full of little gems such as "you are the perfect mother for your child". Highly recommended.

Things do get easier.

Bub is crying. have to dash

kitty galore
03-09-2009, 23:24
Hello Lovely Ladies! Well I think this is about my 8th attempt to post something here today - now that everyone in the house is asleep - hopefully I will have time to finish it!!!
Firstly - Clare had her baby!! I posted all the info in the announcements! YAY CLARE!!!

Daisy - :hugs: for your friend, it is very sad when something like that happens.

Bleeding - I am still bleeding - not ready for a panty liner, but certainly off the giant night time surf boards - wish it would hurry up and be over with - it is bad enough having to wear bras 24/7 - and to be wearing pads 24/7 is killing me!!

Mimmi - :hugs:to you - I think you are putting waaaayyy to much pressure on yourself! Everyone is doing such a great job - and it is very overwhelming for your first. If you can catch a nap absolutely whenever you can - please, please try! i have mastered the 10 min nod off re-charge in the recliner - I literally am recharged after the 10 mins (don't get me wrong - I would kill for an 8 hour unbroken sleep right now - but the 10 mins here and there throughout the day is a godsend!)

I think Whitey has the right idea for fathers day, a bub for a pressy is perfectly acceptable!!!

Courtney - I can't say I know how you feel regarding eating issues, well, my only problem is I eat too much - but big hugs to you chick - and yes - Amelia is only 4 weeks old - cut yourself some slack woman!!!:)

In saying that - in some of my previous posts, I had mentioned that my DH has said no way, no how to any more bubs, and I was rather upset about it - not that I want any now - I want to enjoy Finn at the moment. However, as my DH has said no, no, no - it was kinda forcing me to put the discussion on the table, even though I didn't want to be even thinking about another kid, let alone talking about it kwim??
anyhoo, we had a big chat last night, and he has agreed now to leave the door open to one more kid. As I am 35 now, I certainly don't have tonnes of time left, so we will maybe look at things next year. But I must get myself fit and healthy before then - I must lose some weight and I need to get fit! This time, I have been so physically drained and I reckon it is to do with my lack of fitness - so that is my mission! get fit and healthy for 2010! I really want my spine issues sorted out too - I really would not want another GA delivery!!

I must say - I have lost a heap of weight already (but I have ALOT to lose!!)- the breastfeeding thing is one of the best weight loss programs I have ever done!!!

enough of my dribble - I should think about going to bed!!

xxx

beccalou
04-09-2009, 11:43
Hi girlies :wave:

Have been reading but havent found the energy to post lately.
Had a 41.8 temp last weekend had the doc come out n tell me its mastitis. Got some antibiotics but have been having terrible stabbing pain after feeding. On mon spent four hours moaning and crying I was in agony. Its the worst its been so far. Went to different doc who said I was on wrong antibiotics so started new ones and havent had any pain for several days thank god cause I honestly couldnt cope with the pain was ready to shoot myself.

On a happier note Angelique has been an absolute angel. Have been worried about her cause she sleeps too much have to wake her for feeds and sleeping six seven eight hours at night if I let her.
Had the clinic health nurse out on wed and she has put on 275g in eight days thank god so now I can relax I know she is getting enough.
She has also started to wake up a bit more the last few days which is great.

Emily has been great with her sis but an absolute spazzo the rest of the time. She is still trying to find her way with the new arrival at home.

As for me have been feeling terrific emotionally the only crying I have done is pain related. I think it helps that I am still getting a decent amount of sleep at this stage.

Am thinking of you all and am sending big :hugs: to all those who need it. Motherhood can be quite overwhelming you just have to take it a day at a time.

Spinny
04-09-2009, 14:41
Mimmi - as the other ladies are saying, please don't beat yourself up about anything you are doing, whatever you are doing is right for you and your baby. Also please remember that you need to look after yourself because if you are not well how much harder will it be to look after bubba - I agree with grabbing food on the run, when I have a chance I pack a few snacks in the fridge so I can grab them in between nappy changes and washing clothes! I chop up celery, carrots and grape tomatoes and have a big bottle of water on stand by to gauge how much I've drank during the day, even make a point to stop and have a BIG glass of water every now and then. I also have a sling that I can put Maddison in and as soon as I do she will fall asleep - leaves both your hands free to do stuff while she is asleep.

Courtney83 - please don't worry about your weight, as you said it's only been 4 weeks and remember what we have all just done - we all have made babies and now we are all learning to deal with sleepless nights and loads of washing and just being able to function in the real world without breaking down in tears.

AFM - Maddison has not really slept since 2:30am this morning and has thrown up all over herself three times, all she wants to do is feed then she will sleep for 20 mins then stay awake then want to feed again. She doesn't seem to be upset about not getting sleep (can't say the same about me!) so fingers crossed she will sleep tonight or I will be committed into a asylum by tomorrow - we have such a BIG weekend I'm not going to be able to function without sleep tonight. Tomorrow I'm having my first outing without her - off to dinner with a friend while DF and my friends husband babysit - I will only be out for a few hours - feeling excited about it so hopefully I won't change my mind, I'm looking forward to getting dressed up getting out of the house.

Brood Mare
04-09-2009, 15:19
AFM - Maddison has not really slept since 2:30am this morning and has thrown up all over herself three times, all she wants to do is feed then she will sleep for 20 mins then stay awake then want to feed again. She doesn't seem to be upset about not getting sleep (can't say the same about me!) so fingers crossed she will sleep tonight or I will be committed into a asylum by tomorrow - we have such a BIG weekend I'm not going to be able to function without sleep tonight. Tomorrow I'm having my first outing without her - off to dinner with a friend while DF and my friends husband babysit - I will only be out for a few hours - feeling excited about it so hopefully I won't change my mind, I'm looking forward to getting dressed up getting out of the house.

My DH called the midwives for some advice, as Keiran also threw up everywhere last night.
The midwife said, that at this age (2 weeks+) Keiran is getting ready for a growth spurt, and babies tend to eat/drink more then they can digest, and they chuck it back up. It is normal, and she said to let him have as much as he thinks he needs. Better to over feed then not to give enough.
I also asked about my breasts, because last night I noticed one breast was lighter and had not much milk at all. Basically they told me to let Keiran suck on it more or express to help manipulate and make more milk.
It has been the reason he keeps looking for food after what seems to be a long feed.

kitty galore
04-09-2009, 15:35
I also asked about my breasts, because last night I noticed one breast was lighter and had not much milk at all. Basically they told me to let Keiran suck on it more or express to help manipulate and make more milk.
It has been the reason he keeps looking for food after what seems to be a long feed.

Have you tried making the lactation boosting cookies yet Mimmi?
I am just about to do 2nd batch - my goodness they really, really work!
I changed the recipe a little bit too - replaced 1/2 the choc chips with hazelnuts and replaced the white sugar (hate the stuff) with honey - really yummy - the whole family knocked off batch #1 in a couple of days!!!
I too have felt a little 'light on' but there are some fantastic threads in the b/feeding section that help alot with explanations/solutions etc etc.

Brood Mare
04-09-2009, 15:41
Have you tried making the lactation boosting cookies yet Mimmi?
I am just about to do 2nd batch - my goodness they really, really work!
I changed the recipe a little bit too - replaced 1/2 the choc chips with hazelnuts and replaced the white sugar (hate the stuff) with honey - really yummy - the whole family knocked off batch #1 in a couple of days!!!
I too have felt a little 'light on' but there are some fantastic threads in the b/feeding section that help alot with explanations/solutions etc etc.

I want to try them! Just haven't much time to go shopping, or even scratch my butt these days...

kitty galore
04-09-2009, 16:04
I want to try them! Just haven't much time to go shopping, or even scratch my butt these days...

hahaha - very, very true - I haven't had a shower yet today - just a pommy wash - hubby is back at work now and on day shifts, he let me sleep in as long as I could before he left for work today, so I missed out on having a shower before both kiddies were up. (I am not looking forward to his night shifts next week!) Argghh - double witching hours!! One kids witching hour was bad enough!! 5pm - 7pm is the absolute WORST for my DD - she is a nightmare!

Leanda
04-09-2009, 18:56
Ah, so this is where you have all disappeared too!! I had bookmarked directly into the August chat thread for the When are you due, so I've only just discovered this thread.

So tired!!!! More from me later.

Butterflyqld
04-09-2009, 19:11
This is the first time I have used the computer in two days.
My house is a construction site at the moment. Everything is piled into our dining room while the back of our house is being extended.
Joshua is doing well. The midwife came over today and checked him out. He now weighs 4.32kgs. He is feeding every 2 hours during the day and stretching it abit longer at night. I couldn't tell you how long. I have been feeding and changing nappies in bed. He has been co-sleeping with me as well. I believe he has wind. I have tried Infacol but I am going to get some Infants Friend. This worked on my other son. It is all natural. Hoping to get it sorted so he will sleep in his cradle for longer than 2mins.
Not looking forward to Monday. My husband is back at work. School drop off, bottle feeding, bum changing, doing hair, breast feeding and having a shower alll by myself.

Butterflyqld
04-09-2009, 19:15
Leanda - Congrats. Your two beautiful girls have close birthdays, just like my son and daughter.

JimJamsMum
05-09-2009, 05:02
Beccalou - glad the mastitis is getting better. What is it with doctors that don't know how to prescribe. It can't be that hard, surely.

Mimmi- don't be afraid to let Keiran suck as much as he wants. Ignore everyone who says it's not okay to let them comfort suck. As long as you're okay with it then go for it. It's great for your supply and can give you a great excuse for sitting down and not doing a whole lot :) I have one side that makes more milk than the other but remember that everything self-regulates so you probably are making enough milk for Kieran.

Leanda -welcome back :)

Spinny - enjoy dinner out tonight. I'm sure your DH will do just fine. It's nice to have a reason to get dressed up and put on some makeup.

AFM-Went out for dinner on Wed night. Just up the road with some friends. Apparently Daniel cried for about 30 minutes after I left but then he settled down, had a bottle and went to bed about 8:30. I got home at 10 and was in two minds whether to wake him for a feed before I went to bed. Glad I didn't because he slept until 3:30am. Actually, he's starting to sleep longer at night regularly. Last night he slept for over 9 hours which is brilliant. DS1 was like this too so I think I just got lucky in this respect. Fingers crossed it continues.

Thanks to whoever it was that suggested the tip of keeping a bunch of healthy snacks in the fridge ready to go. What a great idea. I'm going to implement it myself to stop me going for the less healthy options.

beccalou
05-09-2009, 07:26
good morning ladies.

Im sitting here waiting for my angel to wake. My boobs feel like they are ready to explode :rolleyes: cant win!

Angel woke for a feed around 11.30 and didnt get her back to sleep till 2 but at least she is still sleeping now cheeky bugger.

She is definitely waking up more the last few days and was super hungry yesterday.

am jealous of all you girls going out to dinner I might have to try to get out myself it really does make you feel like a human being again.

mimmi - Im with jimjamsmum and the sucking I let angel suck as much as she wants/ I can bear my thing is they can never have too much of mothers milk!
After trying every other settling tech last night put her on the boob and three sucks later she was asleep!
I also found with my first the more she ate during the day the longer she slept at night. She demand fed every two hours during the day and slept 12 hours through the night from four weeks.
I know every baby is different so my best advice is do what works for you and Keiran.

butterflyqld - you will be fine on mon dont stress your a pro!

aliasmel
05-09-2009, 08:53
hey,
I had my baby,Connor on the 19th of August by c-section. He was breach and wouldnt turn at all! Every ultrasound he was just hanging around looking comfy so in the end the ob said i had to have one.
I ahted it... so painful and horrid, then the pain afterwards.. it took me 10-15 mins just to get out of bed but am feeling much better now.

Connor is just weird... He is awake for 5hr + from 7 pm onwards then wakes up ever 2hrs 45 mins-3 hrs for feeds. I know when he is getting hungry cause he starts groaning and making odd noises in his bed.

He is already trying to crawl,lol. He got himself off the ground 3 times yesterday and then flopped back down,he already whacks toys in his bouncer,too.

Once I am feeling better I will have him out on the horse for a bit of a ride. I took him down the back paddock to see the horse the other day and he loved it. then we went and patted the puppies (we have ten pups,my dog had then two days before he was born) and he loved that too.

the dog is great with him,comes and checks on him and then just walks away but the cat is insanly jelous,he was used to being the baby and now there is a real baby he hates it and trys to crawl into my lap while im nursing the baby,I wanted to give him to my nan to mind for a while but the OH wont let me cause he is in love with the cat....

Is it normal to be to scared to take the baby out of the house to go shopping? Im just scared he is going to starrt screaming,I have no idea how to go shopping and handle him if he starts screaming mid way through... what do you do? also if he starts screaming in the car what do I do? I really am at my wits end here. I always feed+ change him if I do go anywhere but I still worry.

And I hate people holding him... I am SO scared they will drop him,is this normal?

Brood Mare
05-09-2009, 09:02
mimmi - Im with jimjamsmum and the sucking I let angel suck as much as she wants/ I can bear my thing is they can never have too much of mothers milk!
After trying every other settling tech last night put her on the boob and three sucks later she was asleep!
I also found with my first the more she ate during the day the longer she slept at night. She demand fed every two hours during the day and slept 12 hours through the night from four weeks.
I know every baby is different so my best advice is do what works for you and Keiran.


Well he is feed on demand as well, he is fed anything between 2-3hrs at a time.
Because I have taken him out every day this week, he sleeps for a while during the day, and then sleeps just as much at night, but him being a little restless in between.
He wakes up twice at night, anytime between 11-1 for his first feed and again between 5-7 for his second.

kitty galore
05-09-2009, 12:53
Hi aliasmel - congrats on the arrival of Connor - welcome to the other side!

I am with you on the not shopping bit - not for the screaming part - yes, I would probably just head home if bubs were unsettled alot (but I live 5 mins from a major shopping centre though), but I don't want to spend too much time at the shops coz there are so many sickly people around, who I see have extremely poor hygiene habits (I could have a bit of a germ phobia though!!) - but hello - don't people cover their mouths when sneezing/coughing these days!?! And if they are so sick - i.e coughing up half a lung - why go out and infect other people!!?!?!
But that is just me!! sorry that turned into a me rant!!!
I am a bit grumpy today - I think I have been spoilt - had my first real unsettled early morning thing with Finn this morning. He had a feed at 11pm ish, woke at 3 am ish - had a really good feed, then bloody wouldn't go back to sleep! I was up with him til after 5am, we went back to sleep at about 5.30am, then he was awake again 2 hours later! Grrr... then he was up from then (7.30am until about 10.30am) Grrr!! So he has definitely spoilt me - nearly a month old and this was our first unsettled stint. I suposed I shouldn't complain, coz I know there are definitely MORE unsettled times ahead!!!

question for the b/feeding ladies - is anyone elses back/necks incredibly sore? I know my posture when feeding is ridiculously bad - and I am trying to sit up straighter - is it just me!?! I am unco at the best of times!

sim081005
05-09-2009, 13:05
Hi aliasmel - congrats on the arrival of Connor - welcome to the other side!

I am with you on the not shopping bit - not for the screaming part - yes, I would probably just head home if bubs were unsettled alot (but I live 5 mins from a major shopping centre though), but I don't want to spend too much time at the shops coz there are so many sickly people around, who I see have extremely poor hygiene habits (I could have a bit of a germ phobia though!!) - but hello - don't people cover their mouths when sneezing/coughing these days!?! And if they are so sick - i.e coughing up half a lung - why go out and infect other people!!?!?!
But that is just me!! sorry that turned into a me rant!!!
I am a bit grumpy today - I think I have been spoilt - had my first real unsettled early morning thing with Finn this morning. He had a feed at 11pm ish, woke at 3 am ish - had a really good feed, then bloody wouldn't go back to sleep! I was up with him til after 5am, we went back to sleep at about 5.30am, then he was awake again 2 hours later! Grrr... then he was up from then (7.30am until about 10.30am) Grrr!! So he has definitely spoilt me - nearly a month old and this was our first unsettled stint. I suposed I shouldn't complain, coz I know there are definitely MORE unsettled times ahead!!!

question for the b/feeding ladies - is anyone elses back/necks incredibly sore? I know my posture when feeding is ridiculously bad - and I am trying to sit up straighter - is it just me!?! I am unco at the best of times!
Yes my back is killing me. My back still is killing me from the long labour but the breast feeding has made it worse.

Also I am wanting to make the cookies but I can't find the brewers yeast

kitty galore
05-09-2009, 14:07
Also I am wanting to make the cookies but I can't find the brewers yeast

I think my hubby got the brewers yeast from health food store, when he got the the flaxseed (linseed)....I think!!!

beccalou
05-09-2009, 16:24
myprincessamelie - yes my back feels like its gunna break when I lay down in bed at night. I cant seem to sit up straight when feeding if I did I think angel would pull my nipple off! I think it gets easier as they get bigger but atm my DD is a bit unco so I am leaning down to help her out a bit lol!

Am having a bbq at our house for fathers day tomorrow ( I must be mad) so have spent today getting everything ready we are having a seafood feast! DH just left the fish markets with 5kg of prawns (thats more than angel weighs :laughing:) crabs and oysters :smiliedance: am sooo excited have been waiting for this for ten months!!

Have been having a bit of pain in my breasts again today after angel slept for six hours last night have been trying to get her to drain my breasts but she hasnt been overly interested in feeding today. Some days can get seven feeds into her today am struggling to get six. My biggest concern is keeping my milk supply up. Anyway cant complain she has been great today.

Hope all you mummies had a good day with your bubbas.

WTK
05-09-2009, 17:15
Have you tried making the lactation boosting cookies yet?.


Nic can you send me the recipe? or is there somewhere I can get it from?

Ta xoxo

kitty galore
05-09-2009, 18:11
Nic can you send me the recipe? or is there somewhere I can get it from?

Ta xoxo

coz i am a puter dum dum - I don't know how to do links (i can't even figure out how to do any photos still!!!) - but if you go to the breastfeeding threads in here, you will find the post about the cookies recipe. I was a bit dubious - thinking, yeah, ok how yummy can they be - i tell ya - they are bloody yum! my dd and hubby loved them too!
i mentioned it before - i hate white sugar and will not use it - i replaced the cup of white sugar with 1/2 cup of honey - and the honey goes so nice with the oats. still have the cup of brown sugar though...

oh, and Anna - I dreamt the other night that you had twins next time your pg! a boy and a girl!!

Brood Mare
05-09-2009, 18:54
Well I gave Keiran a bath, and he didn't scream down the house, yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! :smiliedance:

sim081005
05-09-2009, 18:59
Anna here is the link & for anyone else who wants the recipe. I am determined to find the brewers yeast tomorrow and make some.

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=29207

Also, my nipples have doubled in size (more one of them) are red hot & hurt like hell. Does anyone have any idea what it may be? I am so tempted to put ice on them but am afrad I might affect my supply

kitty galore
05-09-2009, 19:21
Also, my nipples have doubled in size (more one of them) are red hot & hurt like hell. Does anyone have any idea what it may be? I am so tempted to put ice on them but am afrad I might affect my supply

Not sure what it is - I was like that last week - my hubby bought these things called Hydrodiscs - think the brand is called Rite Aid?? they are these little discs that you put over your nipples after a feed and ahhhhhh - the relief!! you can even keep them in the fridge to make them extra chilly!! I don't use them all the time, every now and again when my nipples feel extra ouchies....
i am pretty sure that is the brand!
haha - i was thinking earlier - the main reason I am breastfeeding was to save money - yeah right - the breast pads, discs, and the expressing - we have hired an electric express machine for 2 months (so that means more $$$). i think it works out to be costing us more!!
but now that i am breastfeeding, i wouldn't have it any other way!!

TripleTime
05-09-2009, 19:30
Quick question before i go & brake up another fight.

How long are you little ones staying awake during the day?

beccalou
05-09-2009, 20:05
tripletime - no more than an hour to an hour and a half from when she wakes to when she is back to sleep. I made the mistake of keeping my older daughter up for too long when she was little but they tend to get over tired really quickly and are harder to settle. This is my experience and have found angel is settling well so am sticking to it!
There is a terrific book I discovered that saved me with my first and I am following these guidelines this time round as well. Cant remember the name have lent it to a friend but will be seeing her tomorrow so will post the name for anyone who is interested.

TripleTime
05-09-2009, 20:52
We're awake for alot longer than that during the day. Kids have decided they dont want to be prem.

Brood Mare
06-09-2009, 07:01
Happy Father's Day to all your partners!

Plan on taking the DH to the Pancake Parlor for breakfast this morning. Now to wake his sleepy butt up.

I plan on jumping all over him screaming "DADDY! DADDY! DADDY!" Sure it wont be to fun for him, but he has to get used to it now :D

WTK
06-09-2009, 11:25
coz i am a puter dum dum - I don't know how to do links (i can't even figure out how to do any photos still!!!) - but if you go to the breastfeeding threads in here, you will find the post about the cookies recipe. I was a bit dubious - thinking, yeah, ok how yummy can they be - i tell ya - they are bloody yum! my dd and hubby loved them too!
i mentioned it before - i hate white sugar and will not use it - i replaced the cup of white sugar with 1/2 cup of honey - and the honey goes so nice with the oats. still have the cup of brown sugar though...

oh, and Anna - I dreamt the other night that you had twins next time your pg! a boy and a girl!!


Thanks Nic I'll go fishing ...

and on the 'other' thing, the twin thing!! NO THANKS!! DF's Mum is a twin and I have twin Uncles and so its right there in the gene pool. I'm only just surviving with Miss Penny, twins would push me over the edge! DF and I did say tho in the beginning would be good to have twins first up, get the instant family, but now after 5 weeks with Miss Penny, I know I couldn't do it. Kudos to all the Mum and Dads out there that do tho, stella effort. You know if it happens I'm blaming you Nic!!!! ;)

WTK
06-09-2009, 11:28
Anna here is the link & for anyone else who wants the recipe. I am determined to find the brewers yeast tomorrow and make some.

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=29207

Also, my nipples have doubled in size (more one of them) are red hot & hurt like hell. Does anyone have any idea what it may be? I am so tempted to put ice on them but am afrad I might affect my supply



Thanks babes :)

Pangari
06-09-2009, 11:37
Well...finally I can join you! Both Clare and I have now had our gorgeous little boys...I think we both thought we would never quite make it!

I am feeling battered, bruised, dazed and confused but sooooo thrilled to have such a healthy, lovely little boy.

I shall post my birth story in the coming days on the old thread...need to piece it all together. Was a long 24 hour labour. The actual labour was great and my calm birthing really helped me in the initial stages until the big boofa, who was posterior, decided to flex his head the wrong way and get stuck. 3 long hours of transitional pushing to no effect, and me passing out between contractions meant that emergency c/s was the only option. Bubs was fine throughout, no distress, but we made the decision to get him out before that changed as he was not progressing down at all. He came out with a bruise on his head where he had been headbutting my pelvis!

Anyway, let's just say that everything I had fears about ended up happening and in the end none of it really mattered. I pooped during the pushing, I had an epi (which by the time it came around I was begging for) and I ended up having the c/s. Pregnancy, birth and now motherhood is really the most incredible and life changing event I have ever been through and nothing could have prepared me for it.

I came home yesterday and was so happy to be home but the adventure seemed to send Casper into a tailspin and we had a horror afternoon of him just permanently attached to my boobs and me totally exhausted. No sleep till midnight but then he finally settled and I got a good 4 hours sleep. I think however, that I am now having some sort of withdrawals from the painkillers that they were giving me in hospital as I literally soaked the bed with sweat and had a monstor headache all yesterday arvo. Bubs has since been having 3 to 4 hour sleeps inbetween feeds today so have had a bit of time to rest, shower and eat this morning which is lovely. Feeling vaguely human again!

I am super teary at the moment and keep crying at the drop of a hat. Every little thing sets me off but mostly I keep going over in my head the labour and wondering if I had done things differently whether I could have avoided the c/section. I know in reality I couldn't as I had the most supportive and fabulous midwife (just luck of the draw really) but she said there was nothing more I could do, he just wasn't coming out. Had I continued I would have ended up in real trouble and probably bubs too. The main thing is that bubs is so healthy and a real little joy. I just try to keep focusing on that and taking one day at a time.

So lovely to have had your support throughout and to see that you are all still supporting each other through this next part of the journey.

Will catch up on personals soon! But for now, just big hugs to all and I am sending soothing booby vibes your way too! I soooo love breast feeding but boy oh boy....what a challenge! Big baby boy equals big appetite for booby juice!

Any news from Purplesky? Is there anyone else still waiting for their baby???

sim081005
06-09-2009, 13:15
Well I have since been to the doc as my nipples got so bad last night I couldn't feed or even have the blankets on them. I ended up expressing. Turns out I have an infection on my nipples so I am taking antibiotics for this as well as still taking them for my wound. They have also given me a cream to put on and it does make a difference. The infection does not affect bubs so all good there.

Man I never knew how sensitive the nipples were!!!

Pangari don't waste your time going over what you could have done differently as that is all I have done for the last 4 weeks and I don't think any of us could have done anything differently but you are right in that we all have our little bunbles of joy and that is what really matters

AhelenA
06-09-2009, 16:21
:wave: everyone, I must admit to having become the most reclusive lurker around - so sorry, but I have been trying to keep up with all the posts.

Sending out big :hugs: to all who need them. It is just so damn hard when they don't settle / sleep and you feel like every part of you is either sore or leaking something.

Pangari - congrats darl, you did so well. I am guilty of it too, but try not to think about the 'ifs', you did such a fantastic job bringing a little life into the world and it is still early days yet, it will get easier.

Cracked last weekend on Sunday night when I was meant to start writing loan contracts again (yep work from home), and told my boss I was having another week off, so I am starting back tonight. If it wasn't for my computer-phobe father, I would be taking more time off, but he is the one not coping with the normal office stuff at the moment, even though he did do it for 2 years before I started with the company, so it looks like I am back. Feeling rather angry with him at the moment for being so needy when I am struggling to get even 3-4 hours of broken sleep per night, but.... hang on, rant over. This is turning into a real me post. Sorry!

Interested in finding out how the cookies go ladies. Beau seems to be full after his feeds, but I am feeling rather paranoid as he doesn't like to settle without being on me. Actually, right now is the longest sleep he has ever had, he is going onto 3 hours by 5.30pm. My boobs are so achy because it is actually the first time he has gone more than 2 or 3 hours for a feed. :thumbsup:. If we can just get this to happen of a night, life would be peachy.

There are so many personals I want to do, and I am hoping that I will get to them over the next couple of days, I haven't even sent out congrats to so many people, ones that spring to mind are Whitey, ClareN and Becca, so a belated and big congrats.

Must go, duty calls as there is a vegemite incident occuring. But stay well ladies and beautiful August bubbies.

TripleTime
06-09-2009, 18:06
and on the 'other' thing, the twin thing!! NO THANKS!! DF's Mum is a twin and I have twin Uncles and so its right there in the gene pool. I'm only just surviving with Miss Penny, twins would push me over the edge! DF and I did say tho in the beginning would be good to have twins first up, get the instant family, but now after 5 weeks with Miss Penny, I know I couldn't do it. Kudos to all the Mum and Dads out there that do tho, stella effort. You know if it happens I'm blaming you Nic!!!! ;)


No its not sorry, for you to have a multiple birth it needs to come from your mother to you. The gene needs to be carried maternally. Unless you have identical's.

JimJamsMum
07-09-2009, 08:07
Hi All,

I hope all the fathers out there enjoyed fathers day, especially the first time fathers.


Posture while BF - I have a boomerang pillow that I use behind my back while I'm feeding which supports my back and shoulders. It's really important to sit up straight and if can be handy to rest bub on a pillow on your lap to help support him up nice and high so you're not leaning over him. Some shoulder and neck stretches after feeding can help. I have found yoga invaluable for preventing neck and back pain while feeding.

TT- my bub is now six weeks old and spends about five hours per day awake
(I think. Not sure but that seems about right.) That's not including the time he is awake for feeds.

Pangari - nice to hear from you. Things will get easier once your hormones settle down. In the meantime take it easy and look after yourself.

Have to dash. Told DS1 I'd take him to the park once DS2 woke up so he is now trying to wake him up :hair: Gotta be careful what you say to 2 year olds

sim081005
07-09-2009, 08:56
Hi All,
Have to dash. Told DS1 I'd take him to the park once DS2 woke up so he is now trying to wake him up :hair: Gotta be careful what you say to 2 year olds
I love how a 2 year old can take what you say and turn it into what they want

Whitey78
07-09-2009, 10:29
Hello Lovely Ladies!

Pangari - great to have you here! I hear you about feeling battered and bruised and reliving the whole birth and wondering "what if....". However it sounds like you really are happy with the decisions you made at the time, so you can't torture yourself with wondering what would have happened IF... To me you are wonder woman for enduring such a long labour incl pushing for 3hrs with no progress PLUS passing out in between contractions, you did a great job!

AhelenA - Can't believe you are going to start doing some work again! I am very impressed and feel free to come on here and whinge as much as you need to, I think you're amazing for even thinking about work!

AFM - thought one boob was misbehaving over the weekend, bubs was sucking but not drinking, just comfort sucking, so when I took him off after 20mins he would cry as he was still hungry, ended up having to put him on the other side. Seems to have settled down this morning and MIL (ex-midwife) tells me that sometimes they feed off one side better than the other, but that the supply will still keep up. Mimmi I think you were having probs with one side too??

So am interested in everyone else's routines. At the moment Angus is up for 4 hourly feeds during the day usually 7, 11, 3, 7, 11 and hopefully nothing until 7am again ... sometimes works sometimes doesn't. Today it is 8, 12, 4, 8, 12 after a 4am feed. He is a reallly good sleeper though and has slept through 3 nights so far and if I don't wake him during the day for feeds he can sleep for 5-6hrs or more.
I know there is disagreement about whether or not to wake babies, but it is working for us to wake him during the day so I'm sticking to it.

When he is awake during the day he'll stay awake for about 1.5hours but can have longer periods when he's unsettled - usually at the classic 4pm-9pm period.
My usual routine is to feed on one side and then lay him on the floor for a bit of a play, stare at toys, tummy time and change him. Then I give him the other side, burp him, wrap him up and put him to bed again. Whole thing is usually 1.5hrs from wake up time to back to sleep time.

Yesterday I tried feeding one side with a brief break for a change and then onto the other side, followed by play, followed by trying to get him to settle ... didn't work. But am worried that he is constantly getting boob to help settle him before sleep. I suppose I shouldn't worry and follow my own rule "if its working and everyone is getting sleep then stick to it (regardless of well-intentioned advice from bystanders!)"

OK this is a mammoth post so enough from me.

Oh just lastly I wanted to say Triple Time you must be super-human, I cannot imagine looking after more than one baby! Since having Angus I appreciate and am in awe of mums of multiples even more than I was before I became a mum.

TripleTime
07-09-2009, 10:43
Oh just lastly I wanted to say Triple Time you must be super-human, I cannot imagine looking after more than one baby! Since having Angus I appreciate and am in awe of mums of multiples even more than I was before I became a mum.

Just do what you got to do. I dont know any different & had 7 weeks to ease into it which helped alot. If id gone to term & bought 3 kids home 5 days later i would probably be a mess in a corner some where.

There are days when i want to have a break but i know i cant. And other days when i have a my friends six month old while she's at work. They are the crazy days.

Schosta
07-09-2009, 11:01
Hello All Lucky August Mums with Bubs!!
It's been awhile since I've last posted! Actually I last posted when Caleb was born. I can't believe that he is 23 days old. Time has gone soo quick.
He has been pretty good. He generally feed every 3 hrs. He also sleeps alot better during the day and wide awake during feeds at night. I'm trying to keep him awake during the day for longer but sometimes he just falls asleep anywhere. He also feeds every 2 hrs from 2am and that is a killer. I forgot how much lack of sleep sucks. Some days I feel like a zombie!!! I am trying to lay down even for 10 minutes during the day if I can get both boys asleep at the same times! So I'm finding it hard to get on the net and post as now I am valuing sleep over the computer!!!
Sometimes I will just read through all the posts and see how everyone is going! It felt like only yesterday we were eagerly waiting for our little bundles of joy and now, where has the time gone.
Well time for some lunch before I'm tied down to the couch again!! Yet I love breast feeding just as much as I did with DS...
Take care everyone and KEEP SMILING!!!:)
Schosta xo

Butterflyqld
07-09-2009, 11:02
[QUOTE=Pangari;4051410]
Will catch up on personals soon! But for now, just big hugs to all and I am sending soothing booby vibes your way too! I soooo love breast feeding but boy oh boy....what a challenge! Big baby boy equals big appetite for booby juice!
QUOTE]

Congrats Pangari!

You did have a big beautiful boy. My little man is constantly on my boobies.

Whitey - You sound like you are doing a fantastic job. Joshua has been unsettled lately. I think it is wind. He is sleeping in his cot at the moment. I gave him some Infants' Friend which has settled him :yelclap:

Courtney83
07-09-2009, 12:15
Hi Girls,

I've just been lurking for the past few days, but there are a lot of personals I want to get to! Having said that, I'll do that this arvo because I can hear Amelia stirring :o.

I'm so glad to hear that everyone's doing so well. A new baby is a bit of a shock to the system, but it seems that we've all felt the same emotions, been going through the same things. It's great to have so many friends who have a bub the same age as you do. When I look at my FB now, it's just babies, babies BABIES!

Keep smiling, and as I've said before- soon we'll have roly-poly 4 month olds that we'll take photos of in Santa hats at Christmas time...it's going to go so fast and I have to remind myself to slow down and smell the roses, so to speak. They are only going to be this small for a little while, and I guarantee we'll forget how small they really were when they're bigger.


So yeah...despite the sleepless nights and emotional dramas...give them a kiss and smell the bubble bath in their hair and take heaps of photos :yes:.

sim081005
07-09-2009, 12:48
Well I think we are getting into a routine. It starts at about 9am feed & then sleep by 10. Wake at 12 feed, play and sleep by 1.30ish. Feed 3ish and awake until about 5.30 sometimes needs a top up. Feed at 8.30-9 & sleep by 9.30-10. Feed 1, 4.30 and the cycle starts again. Sometimes the 1am feed is skipped but only happened a few times.

Does everyone else find themselves just gazzing at their little ones for ages and not even notice the time go by? I am finally starting to not miss work & just LOVE being with my son. I just wish that we could all meet in person & I could see & cuddle everyones bubs

Brood Mare
07-09-2009, 12:59
Well, if anyone remembers about me mentioning, that my work was sending stuff over seas to the Phillipines. The thing that employees were dreading, arrived today. I got a call from my mum and from a rep at work, telling me, that teams are being sent overseas and all employees are now terminated. My sister and I still have jobs, as our team is the only backerhouse group left...
I honestly cant see my team lasting the rest of maternity leave... so I guess I'll have to find a new job, before going back to work....

Leanda
07-09-2009, 13:18
Hey girls, I'm trying to get some work done whilst both my girls are asleep so sorry it's just a quick visit ... I hear from Shan via FB that she's not doing too well again and is going back to Sydney to re-admit herself to the hospital. She asked me to let you all know .. and of course I've passed on love and best wishes on behalf of you all.

Brood Mare
07-09-2009, 13:25
Hey girls, I'm trying to get some work done whilst both my girls are asleep so sorry it's just a quick visit ... I hear from Shan via FB that she's not doing too well again and is going back to Sydney to re-admit herself to the hospital. She asked me to let you all know .. and of course I've passed on love and best wishes on behalf of you all.


Awww poor Shan :( I hope everything goes better for her soon

Pangari
07-09-2009, 17:51
Oh no, that is tough for poor Shan. I can totally relate at the moment. i have just realised that I have mastitis so went and got a prescription from the ob today. So with my c/s wound, my aching throbbing breasts, exhaustion, a constant splitting headache and fevers I am just about tipping over the edge into insanity. I am just crying constantly. Poor DH is doing everything he can to help but he just can't take the pain away. I am terrified of him going back to work next week but my mum and dad are coming to help me for at least a week so that is helping me to keep going. I am just focusing on one day at a time.

Whitey: I have no routine. Casper just wants to feed constantly. Last night I couldn't get him to settle and I got no sleep at all. He just fed and fed. I kept trying to stop him and distract him with other things but he just screamed the house down. I might try waking him during the day though and making sure he is up more and hopefully he will then sleep better at night.

Sim: Yes, I do stare at bubs and the love flows out of me and I keep saying, "it is just lucky you are so gorgeous...I wouldn't go through this for just anyone you know"! I think that is what is helping me not to tip over into complete depression.

Mimmi: Total bummer about your job. I shall cross my fingers and toes that it opens another door for you that is even better.

Well I had better go. I am going to wake Casper up for a feed. I just dread feeding him at the moment as the shooting pains from the mastitis are horrid but apparently regular feeding is one of the best things I can do to help recover from it. Oh...that and putting cabbage leaves on it.

Sorry for the downer post....hopefully things shall improve for me now that I am on the antibiotics. Just got to get some Yakkult or probiotics to make sure that I don't end up with thrush as well from the imbalance caused by the drugs!!!

Big hugs to everyone I have missed!

Bye bye mummies.

Courtney83
07-09-2009, 19:22
Mimmi- That sucks about your job, but if that does happen, I'm sure an awesome chick like you could get another job easily. Stay positive, plus, your on maternity leave for a while, yeah? You have plenty of time to sort your stuff out, if worst comes to worst. Fingers crossed you won't have to worry about it :fingerscrossed:.
Leanda - Oh poor Shan! That's absolutely terrible news. I've been thinking about her, I really hope she's ok. PND is an awful thing, but there is light at the end of the tunnel, re-admitting herself and getting 1st class treatment is a positive step forward.
Pangari - Big hugs to you! I know exactly how you feel because I was in the same situation with DD1. I had my heart set on a natural birth, I tried my best...until my strength gave out after 30 hours. Non-progressive labour. I had to have an emergency c/s. That was my first disappointment. She was 9lb 5, and like Casper, wanted to feed constantly...but being a bigger baby, was never satisfied. She was restless and wouldn't settle. It turned out that she had colic too...and would scream down the house all day, every day. Because of the constant feeding frenzy...I developed mastitis, and the pain was excrutiating. I ended up bottle feeding. This was another disappointment. I had never planned on bottle feeding...like having a c/s, it had never crossed my mind. I too was terrified of DH going back to work...I was terrified to have to deal with this screaming baby all by myself. I felt myself spiral out of control and ended up with PND.
The point of this post is just to reassure you that you'll be alright. You're lucky to have your Mum and Dad come stay with you...I had that this time and it makes such a difference. I think, as first time mums, we put far too much pressure on ourselves...and feel that we have to live up to certain social expectations.
I know it's hard not to think about the 'what ifs'...but really, there is nothing you could have done. We August Mums know that you did everything you could to prepare yourself for the birth of your son...you pushed yourself to the limits during the labour...you guys made the RIGHT decision to have the c/s. You had your son's best interest at heart. He was born healthy, and is still healthy. You're healthy too. What more could you have done?

I know caesareans aren't the ideal birth...I know the recovery time is longer, and the pain of your incision isn't nice. But I can tell you, every day you'll get better. I'm here, 4 weeks + 4 later and I feel pretty much 100%. Each day you heal, your emotions will heal too, if you let them.

With regards to the feeding and the mastitis...if your baby is so big and constantly wants to feed, and if for some reason breastfeeding isn't going too well...you can always express until your nipples heal a bit? Or even give him top-ups of formula to help him settle? The midwives do that in the nurseries in hospitals, and it helps the babies to settle (while your boobs get a break).

Anyway...I just wanted to let you know that I understand and that there are options to help you through this tough time. Your parents being there is an excellent start. :hugs:.

TripleTime
07-09-2009, 19:59
I know caesareans aren't the ideal birth...I know the recovery time is longer, and the pain of your incision isn't nice. But I can tell you, every day you'll get better. I'm here, 4 weeks + 4 later and I feel pretty much 100%. Each day you heal, your emotions will heal too, if you let them.

I agree, 4 months later & im back to my old self. You need to give yourself time, take it day by day. Each day is a new day.

Pangari
08-09-2009, 09:54
Thanks Courtney for your support and encouragement. I am actually feeling quite a bit better today. I started my antibiotics yesterday for the mastitis and just knowing what was wrong has helped me emotionally. DH also looked after Casper from 8.30pm to 11pm while I slept. He kept him awake for the full 2.5hours and then I fed him and he went off to sleep and only woke for one 30 minute feed at 3.30am and then slept through to 8.30am. I had another fever overnight from the mastitis but slept through it pretty well and got quite a lot of sleep that has helped. This morning Casper was really bright and alert after his morning feed which was nice and we managed to keep him settled and off my boobs for a couple of hours.

Courtney/Krystal: Thanks for letting me know that there is light at the end of the tunnel for me with regard to my c-section wound! Each day brings me closer to recovery!

I also have been using a nipple shield for feeding which is protecting them a bit and to help Casper latch on to my inverted nipples. Sim - you might like to try them with your sore nipples. You just get them at the chemist.

My mum also suggested yesterday that I pop Casper in the pram to sleep and it really worked well last night. I wrapped him up and then popped him in there and rocked the pram back and forward 'over a bump' i.e. the edge of a rug or similar, and before I knew it he was out like a light. I put him in there again this morning and he is slept blissfully in there for a couple of hours.

Anyway, he is now stirring for his next feed so better dash.

Thanks again ladies for your support. I really have come to rely on you as I know you know exactly what I am going through.

sim081005
08-09-2009, 10:49
Shan I am so sorry to hear that things are not good. Big hugs to you & Sophie

Pangari if it helps, I didn't need pain relief a week after my c-section. Even though my wound is still open in a section, it is healing really well and I am slowly doing a little more each day. My biggest problem has been what to do while Mason is asleep during the day as I can't sleep during the day. I would look at the house & see all the mess but not be able to do anything about it. This was getting me down. I then made a choice to get out of the house once a day for fresh air, change of venue & to see people. Not sure if this will happen to you but this has been my biggest problem to date

As for the BF, it has gotten better. Still hurts but MUCH better. Mason has thrush in his mouth & on his bottom. So I have him on thrush treatment as well as treating me just in case. It also looks like I have thrush on my nipples to go along with the infection. I am laughing at all this now as I think I am meant to get everything first time around so that I can sit back and say, I did it so I can have more. hehe

Mason had his 4 week check up yesterday and he has gained 355grams in a week and his jaundance (sorry don't know how to spell) has almost gone. We think he has finally turned the corner.

I am trying to get some 'nice' pics of Mason & I but they all make me look like death warmed up!!! I hope I don't look like this all the time.

Well I am off to do the dishes. Enjoy your day ladies

Whitey78
08-09-2009, 12:24
Just quickly popping in to say IGNORE what I wrote yesterday!! There is no such thing as a routine! Things were going along swimmingly but Angus would not settle from about 4:30pm yesterday, lots of screaming and would not settle. Am feeling v tired!
To top it all off went to get him weighed this morning and he has "only put on 120g" - not good enough apparently and MW says 4hourly feeds will have to change to 3hourly feeds as he is clearly hungry !!!! So I am now envisaging myself strapped to the couch permanently with baby hanging off boob so he will put on more than 120g next week.

No seriously is lucky I have my emotions under control this week as the way the MW spoke to me made me feel like I wasn't doing a good enough job, if it was last week I would have been a blubbering mess. Am not going to get too hung up on meeting targets for weight gain, he's only 2.5weeks old!

Sim - You have certainly had your fair share of "things that can go wrong when having a baby"! Good advice about the fresh air and getting out and about, am going to try to take this on board.

Leanda - thanks for update on Shan, this must be such a tough time for her but I'm happy she's getting the help she needs

Pangari - :hugs: things WILL get better! Make the most of having your parents around

Brood Mare
08-09-2009, 13:10
Well, after hearing about works new changes, I figured the employee moral would be out the door. I thought bringing Keiran to work might raise peoples spirits, and it made everyone really happy. They are all in love with him, and couldn't get over his riotous hair.
He held up very well, being passed around like a hot potato for 45mins, and left without shedding a tear.

TripleTime
08-09-2009, 13:14
Pangari- While your mum is there, get her to stock the freezer full of meals for you. Easier to reheat than cook when you only have a spare 15 min.

Nadine25
08-09-2009, 13:48
Hello Ladies,

Sorry I haven't been in here in ages. The days have just been flying by. DH is on holidays atm too so I don't get to go on the net too often.

Mia is doing fairly well. She breast feeds well and gaind 580g in 11 days! Needless to say she is doing well in that department LOL. Up untill a few days ago she was very unsettled (mainly at night and in the late arvo) and kept crying in pain and we first thought it was reflux but the zantac (prescribed by the dr) didn't help her so I investigated on the net some more. I read something about "lactose overload" and the symptoms described Mia's symptoms to a T (much like the reflux ones). So the cause of the overload was that I wasn't letting her drain the breast properly before switching her to the other breast. This was causing her to get alot of the foremilk but not much of the hind milk. This then causes them to get alot of wind pain. And for pain babies like to suck so of course I'd put her on the breast thinking she was hungry so making the problem worse. ANYWAY, now that I know how a properly drained breast feels like she is alot more settled.

Question: Do your babies self settle (ie. in their beds)? If so, what do you do to help them?

Mia isn't self settling yet (we have to rock/cuddle her to sleep) and it's been a while since I have gone through this so need my memory refreshened as to how I help her in teaching herself to resettle..... I don't mind having to cuddle her but this happens at night aswell and can sometimes take and 1hr. So I would prefer if she could self settle, especially at night.

Apologies for no personals but I have read all of the posts and want to send some HUGE :hugs: to all that need it. Times can be tough with a newborn especially with the lack of sleep but it does get better. Just take one day at a time.

TripleTime
08-09-2009, 14:30
We self settle & also have a pretty strict schedule.

Took me about 3 weeks to get them to this point though. Kids now know that after a bottle & cuddle you get wrapped & put to bed with a dummy. They wake up an hour & a half later & want to play, than it starts all again.

Courtney83
08-09-2009, 14:41
Kids now know that after a bottle & cuddle you get wrapped & put to bed with a dummy.

:D...that's so cute!

I didn't know how old Amelia should be before I started trying to get her to self-settle - like you, Nadine, it's been a while! Lately though, at night, I change her nappy, give her a bottle/cuddle that lasts about 30mins, then I wrap her up and put her to bed with a dummy. It works!

TripleTime
08-09-2009, 15:29
I just got a phone call from Aleah's surgeon about having her birthmark removed. :D
We go to Sydney Children's 29th October.

Courtney83
08-09-2009, 15:42
Oh, she has a birthmark? Where is it? Is it really noticeable or something?

(Sorry if you've already explained - I must have missed it!)

TripleTime
08-09-2009, 17:24
Off to find the other thread...

Found it
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=284476
&
http://174.120.2.174/node/24

kitty galore
08-09-2009, 22:17
Hi Lovely Ladies! Feels like ages - all my days and nights are blending into one big blur!!!

anyway - my very quick personals!!!

ClareN - Hope you are going well and settling home well! Can't wait to hear from you!

I guess PurpleSky was the last of our regular Aug Ladies - I hope all went well with you - and hope you can pop in here when you can!

Shan - big :hugs:, thinking of you!

Pangari - i am def no expert - but I can say that the b/feeding DOES get easier! I totally agree with Courtney - can you express some and give you boobs a break for a feed? I am expressing in between feeds to build up a stock, and also when my boobs are a bit sore, you get a bit of a break.

Courtney - same for me regarding recovery from the c-sec - I was only thinking the other night - it doesn't even feel like I had any surgery, let alone major surgery! Physically I feel fantastic!
I was off the pain relief within about a week too Sim, and that was only panadol at home after hospy - they had me on pretty strong stuff in hopsy on day 1/2 (oxycotin, which was knocking me for six!!), one of the other meds made me :barf:!!

WTK - hey, about the twins vision I had - I don't tell many people this - but I have actually had a few visions/dreams come true - and weird visions at that - in 1994 I had a vision that Princess Di had died, I woke up and turned to my boyfriend at the time and said, hmmmm...Princess Di is going to die. He got freaked out coz apparently I was awake, but not there, kwim? Also, my most disturbing one was many, many years ago, I had a vision that my best friend at the time was going to be raped by a guy that she was going on a date with (really nice guy - or so we thought, had know him for years). This was way back when no one had mobiles, so I had no way of contacting her, sure as eggs, when she got home, I was freaking and crying and she was trying to be normal, I didn't know how to say it, so I just blurted out "***** raped you, didn't he" and she absolutely lost the plot, coz he had.

So lets see if my dream/vision about you having twins will come true! Hopefully this might be one of my nice visions that comes true!!:)

routines - we have no set routine - but Finn is actually feeding every 4 hours, settles well, sleeps and feeds well so I guess it is a routine without us actively sticking to one (I don't believe a 2/3/4 week old could possibly be routined without alot of heartache - but that is just me!) Last 2x nights he has gone 5 hours/feed/5 hours - so we are getting a bit more sleep.

afm - I hear you sim on Mason 'getting everything' - poor Finn - he has had mucky eyes, terrible rash on his face, snotty/snuffly nose, and now tonight we have found him to have a terrible nappy rash!! oh the poor bub! so tomorrow there will loads of air time! It doesn't seem to bother him yet - but he is a pretty placid baby..

Would you ladies be happy if I started a b/feeding thread in our birth group?

phew - that ended up being a marathon - this had better bloody well save and post without freezing on me!!!

take care

Nicole
xxx

Brood Mare
09-09-2009, 00:23
afm - I hear you sim on Mason 'getting everything' - poor Finn - he has had mucky eyes, terrible rash on his face, snotty/snuffly nose, and now tonight we have found him to have a terrible nappy rash!! oh the poor bub! so tomorrow there will loads of air time! It doesn't seem to bother him yet - but he is a pretty placid baby..

Would you ladies be happy if I started a b/feeding thread in our birth group?

phew - that ended up being a marathon - this had better bloody well save and post without freezing on me!!!

take care

Nicole
xxx

I hear you on the nappy rash.. I noticed Keiran getting one on the weekend and it progressively got worse. Tonight I wiped his poor raw backside to find that it was bleeding, from constant wiping...
Feeling terrible, I rang the midwife for some advice a few minutes ago, she suggested water and cloths, and sorbelene. It should start getting better.
I felt so bad about his poor sore bottom, that I started crying..

TripleTime
09-09-2009, 08:39
Paw paw ointment works wonders for nappy rash.

kitty galore
09-09-2009, 08:43
I hear you on the nappy rash.. I noticed Keiran getting one on the weekend and it progressively got worse. Tonight I wiped his poor raw backside to find that it was bleeding, from constant wiping...
Feeling terrible, I rang the midwife for some advice a few minutes ago, she suggested water and cloths, and sorbelene. It should start getting better.
I felt so bad about his poor sore bottom, that I started crying..
Me too Mimmi! I have been bawling my eyes out - esp when I looked up info on the net and it said how painful nappy rash is for them :crying:
we have been doing the water and cloth thing too, and it seems to be improving.
I don't remember my DD having such big wet nappies - I wonder is there a difference between f/f and b/f??
We are changing Finn at all the opportunities. when he wakes up/before/after feeds etc etc...

Brood Mare
09-09-2009, 09:16
Me too Mimmi! I have been bawling my eyes out - esp when I looked up info on the net and it said how painful nappy rash is for them :crying:
we have been doing the water and cloth thing too, and it seems to be improving.
I don't remember my DD having such big wet nappies - I wonder is there a difference between f/f and b/f??
We are changing Finn at all the opportunities. when he wakes up/before/after feeds etc etc...

My mum was telling me that boy pee has more acidity then girl pee, and boys tend to get rash more then girls. She suggested Vaseline as a barrier.. but I wont use it till the rash has subsided...

Sometimes the net tells you un-needed info, so I resist the urge to look up medical stuff..

Courtney83
09-09-2009, 09:27
Regarding nappy rash...I use Bepanthen. It's a nappy rash preventative as well as nappy rash treatment. It's like a thick, waterproof moisturiser - similar to vaseline I guess, and I put it on after each bath.
I used it on Lily, and now Amelia, and neither have ever had nappy rash.

It's worth a go, girls!

Have a great Wednesday! Xx

kitty galore
09-09-2009, 10:06
We are using the bepathen too - it is definitely improving!

happy wednesday to you too Courtney!!:)

Brood Mare
09-09-2009, 10:11
I was just thinking, What should I do with our August baby list? It's just about ready. (Still waiting on PurpleSky) I think we should display our baby list, it's a great accomplishment, and I feel proud looking at it.

sim081005
09-09-2009, 10:39
morning ladies

As for nappy rash, the MCHN told me that Sudocrem is a good trush preventer as well as good at getting rid of nappy rash. Note sure if this will help or not but I thought Mason had nappy rash but it was trush. Little red pimple like dots.

myprincess I am so sorry to hear that Finn is having a hard time as well. I am praying that things pick up for you guys soon.

AFM - I am nearlly at breaking point because from 10am yesterday to now Mason has only slept for 10 hours!!!!! He dosed yesterday for 20 minutes at a time yesterday until 6 pm when he finally fell asleep and slept until 11.30pm and stayed awake until 3am & then woke again at 4.30 but fell back asleep within 45minutes. From there it was a 6.30 feed back to sleep & then feed at 9am and still awake.

I want/need a break but DH is just as tired as I am. I can handle most things but no sleep is one thing I do not handle well. Can someone please tell me that my feelings are all normal.

Courtney83
09-09-2009, 10:41
Aww Mimmi, that's really cool.

We should all be proud of our group- maybe just start a new thread here with all the details on it?

Nadine25
09-09-2009, 10:51
Mia was unsettled from 11pm-4am last night/this morning. 5 bloody hours!!!!! I have no idea what is going on! Is it my milk? Is she hungry? Is it something I eat that passes through my milk?

I am ready to throw in the towel with this breastfeeding thing but I know how good it is for her. If only I knew what the cause was :( I know it is normal for babies to have one unsettled period per day but for 5hrs???

Sorry ladies for the whinge.

Courtney83
09-09-2009, 10:53
Hey Sim,

Of course it's normal girlfriend!! Any of us would go crazy with no sleep...and these babies waking up every 20 mins or so it's like sleep torture for us all!
Is there someone who can come over and watch Mason for a couple of hours so that both you and your DH could grab a nap?
Maybe he's just going through a restless patch? I always find that if Amelia is grizzly, I give her a bath. She seems to calm right down and get dozy...if all else fails...bath, bottle, and even a drive in the car?

Goodluck...I so hope he has a big sleep soon :hugs:.

Courtney83
09-09-2009, 10:58
Nadine,

That sucks! Amelia was a bit like that last night..waking up once an hour from 10pm to 5am..then staying awake until about 40 mins ago.
Sometimes you just wish they could tell you what's wrong, huh. Nothing's worse than when you've done everything you can, but they're still crying...
Have you talked to a community nurse about your b/f questions? Maybe they'd be able to give you some tips?

Hugs :hugs:.

beccalou
09-09-2009, 11:25
Hi girlies

Big hugs to everyone.

Nappy rash - I use sudocream and swear by it. The other big thing I find helps is no wipes. I use sorbolene cream on a tissue. Apparently water doesnt help either but it seems some of you girls are having success with that so its probably a bit of trial and error.

Would love a b/f thread myprincess.

What else? Oh unsettled bubs - motion is great. Have any of you got swings? And definitely baths to settle. And the usual - baby slings, prams, wrapping, dummies etc. I know you have probably heard it all. DH used to walk the floor with DD singing twinkle twinkle ;)

Pangari - if you are at the end of your rope you can always give bubs a one off formula bottle if your really exhausted and dont have the energy to express etc.

AFM - had a lovely fathers day till the pain started again in my breast. Ended up in my bedroom crying and couldnt say goodbye to everyone was in so much pain. Its like being stabbed with a needle every 20 seconds for about an hour and a half. Finished my antibiotics so dont know what to do. The pain wasnt as bad on mon and hardly there yesterday so :fingerscrossed: ...

I hear my angel stirring so will bbl

sim081005
09-09-2009, 12:04
Courtney I had my dad just hear so I could have brekkie & a cuppa followed by empty the dish washer & re stack it. It was only 30 minutes but heaven all the same. Mason has since done a masive poo that is very runny so I am thinking all the antibiotics in my system plus his has upset his tummy. He is dozing in my arms as I type this so maybe he is going to have a long sleep.

Becca I hope that you get to the bottom of what is causing your pain. It's not fun being in pain

Brood Mare
09-09-2009, 14:20
Aww Mimmi, that's really cool.

We should all be proud of our group- maybe just start a new thread here with all the details on it?

Perhaps I shall, I should also open up the option for the Jul-Sep mummies to want to put their bubbies up :)

Pangari
09-09-2009, 15:14
I think there must have been something in the air last night. Casper was unsettled for most of last night too. In the end I just jumped into the spare bed with him. I have this thing that supports him on either side and I swaddled him and lay him down on his side and let him suck my breast while I lay there in bed. We were side by side and then he and I both fell asleep after about 10 mins. I am sure it is not the "done" thing but I was desperate!!!! As it was I got 3 hours sleep out of it from 6am to 9am and so did he.

I am feeling better now that the antibiotics for the mastitis have kicked in and even my c/s wound is hurting much less. I managed to lie on my side with Casper as I said above, for the first time since the operation. Only for 10 mins or so but it was nice to be able to do that again. Felt like a bit of a turning point. I am guzzling vitamin c and also taking probiotics to try to avoid getting thrush from the antibiotics.

Mimmi: For Casper I am using paw paw ointment on his bum bum which you can get from health food shops. You can also use it on your nipples. I also have bepanthen for nappy rash which a couple of the other ladies have suggested and it is great too.

Question: How often do you bath your babies? The hospital recommended every 2nd day but I am wondering if that is not enough. Perhaps I could just give him a sponge bath every other day?

Anyway, the little tacker is currently waking. He seems to have a long sleep every afternoon. I keep thinking I should wake him so that he might sleep better at night but then I worry that he might just be grumpy during the day and still be unsettled at night. It could in fact make things worse!!! So for now I shall just let him create his own patterns.

Big hugs going out to all you fabulous mummies! Laters!

Courtney83
09-09-2009, 15:59
Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better, Pangari! Regarding the vitamin C, I've heard that that speeds up your recovery after a c/s too! Two birds with one stone, huh?
Regarding the baths...I bath Amelia twice a day! One at 9.30am after we've dropped Lily off at school, and once at 5.30pm before we get her all settled in for the night. She loves baths, they really settle her, and it's a fun thing to do for the both of us! After her baths, before I dress her, I use some Johnson's Baby - Soothing Naturals - Intense Moisture Cream to give her a bit of a massage. Her feet, legs, arms and tummy...any spots where her skin is dry.

So yeah...I might be doing the wrong thing but it works for us! :D! Just like your feeding this morning...so long as it works, I'm sure it'd be ok!

Leanda
09-09-2009, 16:33
Oh man, trying to do everything on the run today!

nappy rash - Have to agree, I'm using the Bepanthen this time and have found it easier to apply than the zinc-based creams. The pawpaw is also great and Ive had to buy a tube to put on my dry lips too!

unsettled nights/feeds - yup, babies just have those sometimes. Amber has a session during the day or in the evening (7pm onwards) where she will suck for 5 mins, fall asleep, get put down in her pram or bassinette and stay dozing for 5 mins, then will wake up crying again. Nothing but milk will settle her .. into the same pattern again. This happens a few times until she finally surrenders to sleep for 2 hrs. Its called 'cluster feeding' and is perfectly normal, damn it.

bathing - The books say when you dont bathe em, just 'top n tail' them .. warm, wet cloth over their face and bums .. yes, sponge bath! However, as per the August mummies rule book .. just do whatever works for you :)

AFM - I cant believe I'm really doing the BF thing this time! *yay* Cheating somewhat and giving Miss a bottle as her last feed of the night (10 or 11pm) to settle her into a longer sleep, plus DH does this so I can crash earlier and get some sleep pre her 2am/3am feed. I could express, but I'm wondering now how much of my nipple damage was done or not helped by the pump last time.

*big hugs* to all of you in recovery mood from mastitis, c/sections etc. You truly are super-women!!! I cant imagine battling that on top of the demands of a newborn. I just get to juggle work & a 4 yr old, with some marvellous live-in help, so its a walk in the park in comparison!

TripleTime
09-09-2009, 16:34
We bath on Monday & Wednesday mornings than Friday, Saturday & Sunday nights when DF is home. Until they are a little more independent (Christmas, i hope) i cant bath them all on my own.
If we have an explosive nappy, ill do a hose off & put the other to in their cots to play.

Whitey78
09-09-2009, 17:02
Nappy rash - Angus hasn't had any yet, I am using wipes and also powder after most changes to keep everything dry. I have some Sudocream just in case - should I be putting that on after changes to prevent a rash?

Bathing - am prob bathing once every 1-2 days depending on the day. I am using some olive oil in the bath as Angus' skin has been quite dry - seems to be working. Won;t go back to baby wash until his skin is better.

Becca - I hope you get your nipple pain sorted out. I seem to have mine under control and now only get stabbing pain for first 30sec or so after latching on. Has made life a LOT easier. Please seek help as I know how much of an impact it can have on the way you feel about everything.

Man it has just hit me how damned HARD all of this is!!! Sleeping, settling, feeding, crying, nappy rash, to wake or not to wake, sore nipples, mastitis, thrush, c-sec wounds ... I am glad I didn't know all of this before I got preg or I might not have had the guts to go through with it! Is so lovely to have all of you to share the ride!

It is SO hard when they cry and you can't work out why isn't it. Our Angus has a horror 3-4 hours in the late evening, I don't know whether to feed or if I am feeding him too much and that is what is causing the prob. Basically I just wing it and hold him, feed him, give him a dummy, do a jig, lie on the couch with him ... it finally ends with a massive fart and then he falls asleep on my chest, poor little man must have such a pain in the tum. I think some of you were talking about Infacol earlier - do you think that'd be worth a try?

Have a good night ladies

Brood Mare
09-09-2009, 17:44
Newest baby list, has been made. It contains July, August and September's baby lists.

Pangari
10-09-2009, 08:01
Whitey: That little bit about poor Angus and his unsettled few hours each night cracked me up! The midwives at the hospital just called it the 'witching hours'. Apparently most babies have an episode each day where they are just grumbly. I think what you are doing is fine. Sometimes they just need to express their frustrations! It is the only way they can communicate.

Casper had a great night. DH kept him entertained during his witching hours from 8.30pm to about 10pm while I slept then brought him in for a feed. I let him suck until he couldn't suck no more! Then put him down in his cot well wrapped with a dummy which he spat out (hasn't got the hang of them yet!) then he slept from 11pm through to 5am. I then fed him again and tried to put him down but he wouldn't settle so I brought him into bed with us and he is still sleeping in there now. I didn't cover him with the doona this time. Too scared he might suffocate, just covered him with one of his little blankeys. It seems that every 2nd night we manage to get him to have a decent long sleep.

Poor DH has come down with a ripper cold. He is not feeling great. So between us we have been both feeling pretty rotten but I think we are both over the worst of it now.

The maternal health nurse is coming any moment now for our first check up. I hope she is nice and not a nazi.

Mimmi: well done on the new baby list.

Gotta go...she's here...dun dun dun daaaaaah!!!

TripleTime
10-09-2009, 08:14
I second whitching hour, its crap!!
They do grow out of it though, just take time.

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 08:15
Good luck Pangari! I am sure you will get some one nice!

Whitey I totally understand how frustrating it is. I hate it when Keiran cries, I just get so upset and go "WHAT DO YOU WANT!!!" of course they can't tell you, but I try everything, and then eventually he calms down. Most of the time it's wind.. He has a good sook, then I pick him up and he lets rip and then his all happy as a clam again.

Upside, his nappy rash is already improving, just blotchy now, the more ouchy areas are still there. And he doesn't scream when I clean his bum now, so he finds cotton balls alot more pleasant then wipes.

And as for the baby list, it's a sign I have way to much time in between bubbies feeding.

Whitey78
10-09-2009, 09:14
One more thing to throw in: how is everyone's pelvic floor???!!!

I have been trying to do exercises daily but still feeling hardly any tightening. Also have very little control over, well I'll just put it out there ... farting (SORRY TMI!).

Am hoping and praying that everything will tighten up again but at the moment it feels as if it is never going to happen and I just know I'm going to be out somewhere in public and I'll let one rip without meaning to - SO embarrassing.

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 09:19
One more thing to throw in: how is everyone's pelvic floor???!!!

I have been trying to do exercises daily but still feeling hardly any tightening. Also have very little control over, well I'll just put it out there ... farting (SORRY TMI!).

Am hoping and praying that everything will tighten up again but at the moment it feels as if it is never going to happen and I just know I'm going to be out somewhere in public and I'll let one rip without meaning to - SO embarrassing.

i am suffering with incontinence... I had a rather big accident last night, cried long and hard about it. It's getting better, but self esteem aint doing to crash hot.

Courtney83
10-09-2009, 09:49
Awww Mimmi...I've noticed that you've been a bit down lately- I can "hear" it in your posts, even if you don't say anything outright.
Please don't give in to low self-esteem!! You are an awesome chick! Funny, supportive and very easy to warm to! You have an absolutely GORGEOUS little boy, and the photos of you guys are just beautiful. I know it's easy to feel unnatractive after giving birth, with the extra weight and dark circles ontop of the other issues...but we'll be alright. It just takes a bit of time to get back on top.

Chin up and big hugs - :hugs:

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 10:03
Awww Mimmi...I've noticed that you've been a bit down lately- I can "hear" it in your posts, even if you don't say anything outright.
Please don't give in to low self-esteem!! You are an awesome chick! Funny, supportive and very easy to warm to! You have an absolutely GORGEOUS little boy, and the photos of you guys are just beautiful. I know it's easy to feel unnatractive after giving birth, with the extra weight and dark circles ontop of the other issues...but we'll be alright. It just takes a bit of time to get back on top.

Chin up and big hugs - :hugs:

Thanks Courtney.
I know that every woman who has had a baby, has gone through this, and some have had it harder then I have. I try to remember this, with every hurdle I face.
Last night however, I have not cried that hard in a long time. My poor DH thought I hated him. He even asked me if I did.
Since the in-laws have gone. My DH has had to go back to work full time, and so day in, day out, it's really just me and the baby. My family has not been very helpful, since the in-laws left. It was a show, to show them, that we are being taken care of. So the place has gone from having EVERYONE here, to having NO ONE here.
I am worried about our future now, since my work may not be as perminant, as I thought it might be, and I am very nervous about having to look for a new job.
I am doing alot better these days however. The waking up in the middle of the night is getting easier, I am recognising his cries alot easier. I am alot more confident going out with him. I like showing him off haha.
I have my best friends birthday party to look forward to, and that means I get to go out and buy some nice clothes for me and bubs :)

sim081005
10-09-2009, 10:05
Morning ladies. Can you hear the spring in my step?

Pangari I am so glad that Casper had a much better night. Not good about your DH though. Maybe someone out there is telling the 2 of you that you both are meant to stay on the couch or in bed for the next week.

As for the whole 'witching hour', well I hate it but I now want to cook dinner just so that DH will take Mason. He normally just takes him into the shower with him and it doesn't get too bad

Whitey & Mimmi I can understand the inability to control bodily functions. Before I had Mason I was having little mishaps all the time & the farting was out of control. I used to make DH come with me to do the shopping so that I could blame him for the farts. Since having Mason I have got the opposite. I am able to control the wee but not the # 2's as in I am 'blocked' and I find it really hard to fart which can lead to a very sore tummy. I asked my doc for help but said it is due to my stomach muscles being cut in half & not healed yet & that I am not allowed to work the muscle yet.

Pelvic floor I have been working out but not by choice. Everytime I sit & start, DS will let out a cry that makes me think something is wrong & I have to stop what I am doing. By the time I get to him, he has gone back to sleep. MEN

AFM - Mason finally went down yesterday afternoon and slept for 5 hours. I knew this would mean a little bit of a rough night but he was so tired. He wasn't too bad through the night. No where as grizzly. He has the runs pretty bad and it makes him scream in pain until out.

Keep question, when should you start self-settling & is this where you put the children down & they send themselves off to sleep without the aid of cuddling/rocking/dummy etc? Sorry but I am still very green at all this. I am worried as we seem to be holding Mason everytime he goes off to sleep & think that I have created a monster already.

sim081005
10-09-2009, 10:08
Mimmi I think it is time for us to start to organise the Melbourne Mummy's meet up. This will give you & I something positive to look forward to (& give me a reason to buy some new clothes)

I am thinking that sometime in October will be good. Nicer weather, no footy finals, we will all be confident enough to venture out with our angels & healed.

So any ideas for venue or do we want to go back to the same place?

Oops, maybe PM me with venue options & if you are interested as the mods don't like us talking about get togethers in public threads

Courtney83
10-09-2009, 10:17
Before I had Mason I was having little mishaps all the time & the farting was out of control. I used to make DH come with me to do the shopping so that I could blame him for the farts.

I'm sorry - :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: :laughing:!!!!

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 10:23
Sounds like a good idea! Where ever we go, it has to be somewhere that doesnt mind alot of babies. Maybe somewhere outdoors.. somewhere central like last time.
And speaking from my own situation, something affordable! :yes:

sim081005
10-09-2009, 10:53
I am hearing you on the affordable front

sim081005
10-09-2009, 11:00
OK I think the mods won't mind us mentioning venues as long as there in no mention of dates, therefore stalkers can not find us as they won't know when to come.

I have thought of the following:

Zoo
Botanical Gardens
Flagstaff Gardens

I am not too good with the city so if anyone else has some ideas

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 11:02
OK I think the mods won't mind us mentioning venues as long as there in no mention of dates, therefore stalkers can not find us as they won't know when to come.

I have thought of the following:

Zoo
Botanical Gardens
Flagstaff Gardens

I am not too good with the city so if anyone else has some ideas

OMG! I haven't been to the Zoo since I was 12 lol

sim081005
10-09-2009, 11:04
I thought the zoo likes lots of babies/kids, has lots of sitting areas and for us that want to make a day of it, we can. I am thinking maybe making it a weekend so other kids/partners can come along. That is if we are doing the zoo

Courtney83
10-09-2009, 11:05
Pffft...so jealous!

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 11:09
I thought the zoo likes lots of babies/kids, has lots of sitting areas and for us that want to make a day of it, we can. I am thinking maybe making it a weekend so other kids/partners can come along. That is if we are doing the zoo

I for one am up for it :thumbsup:

sim081005
10-09-2009, 11:39
Courtney you may be in need of a holiday in October I think. A break from the weather up there & it will be your last chance to fly somewhere before the wet season kicks in.

I have already thought of a plan for you

beccalou
10-09-2009, 12:41
First up - whitey - forgot to say to you not to worry about weight gain I think 100g a week is the minimum and angus put on more than that so dont worry about the old bag giving you a hard time. Also if bubs wasnt getting enough he would be crying 24/7.

And yeah it is hard and overwhelming and no one seems to tell you before you have the baby how full on it is! Its like a conspiracy lol.

mimmi - big :hugs: hang in there it doesnt necessarily get easier but you will over time become more confident and capable and before you know it you wont remember what life was like before you had kids!
Please dont be too hard on yourself just remember your doing the best you can and bubs chose you for a reason.

Bathing - atm am bathing angel every second day and will start daily baths around four weeks. Did this with em and bath her religiously every night since she was four weeks. She has never missed a bath no matter how hard I found it while I was preggers we still kept it up as this is part of her bedtime ritual and I am a big believer in this. It really does help them unwind from the day and helps them to become relaxed etc. But do whatever works for you pangari its your baby your rules :)

Pelvic floor - I am relieved to say mine is 100 times better since giving birth. It was really bad the last few months of pregnancy but I have alot more control now. Still doing my exercises as often as I can remember. With DD1 I used to do them every time I laid down as I found it hard to sleep during the day so would lay there counting as I did them which also helped me relax. And yes it does get better but you do need to keep up your exercises. And a word of advice - start doing them again a few months before you fall pregnant again if you can and all through your pregnancy - trust me!

beccalou
10-09-2009, 13:08
just went outside to air the puppies and took my bra off and am like a milk waterfall so run back inside and grab two bottles then went back outside and sat in the sun with a bottle under each boobie and just got forty mls :laughing: what a picture!

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 13:17
just went outside to air the puppies and took my bra off and am like a milk waterfall so run back inside and grab two bottles then went back outside and sat in the sun with a bottle under each boobie and just got forty mls :laughing: what a picture!


:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

what an image!

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 13:24
I swear to god, all this kid does is eat :rolleyes:

Courtney83
10-09-2009, 14:03
Courtney you may be in need of a holiday in October I think. A break from the weather up there & it will be your last chance to fly somewhere before the wet season kicks in.

I have already thought of a plan for you

:laughing:...Good thinking Sim!

Well...I am coming down to Sydney from the 22nd September to the 6th October...Maybe I could con my Mum into coming with Amelia and I for the night...Hmmm...My Dad flies down to Melbourne for work every few weeks...he flies down and back in a day...Maybe I could do that?
Those dates might be a bit early for you guys huh? If that's the case then I'll be back in Sydney in December/January.

How exciting...the prospect of meeting up with you girls and your gorgeous bubs is awesome :D.

raffee
10-09-2009, 14:29
Howdy gals!

Well, thought it was high time I posted in this thread. Been lurking long enough... I try to pop on at least once a day whilst breastfeeding bub to keep up to date with all of you. May I say you are all doing a mighty job. I am also loving the pics of your gorgeous bubs.

For those who aren't on facebook, I was posting as babylily during my pregnancy, for privacy reasons, but will be posting as raffee going forward.

So, mimi, could you please add me to the fab babylist you drew up for the 14th August?:)

Jacob has been a delight since his much-anticipated and long-overdue arrival 27 days ago. Like all bubs, he wakes for feeds often and has had a few days where he fed non-stop (probably due to a growth spurt), but despite the sleep deprivation I am loving my new addition and am enjoying every minute of it.

He's got a fierce milk rash atm, which is a little unsightly, but otherwise, he is doing great. We have our first clinic appointment on the 15th, so I will know then how much weight he's put on.

I am still eagerly awaiting news from purplesky... she's been on my mind a lot, and I'm praying that she had a smooth labour and is enjoying her new bundle too.

mimi, can I just say your professional pics are absolutely gorgeous. Wish I knew an affordable photographer who could take pics of my bub! For the moment, I have to settle for my snap-happy younger sister, who has a great canon camera (mine is broken).

Ok, gotta dash... will try to do more personals later!

Butterflyqld
10-09-2009, 14:32
it finally ends with a massive fart and then he falls asleep on my chest, poor little man must have such a pain in the tum. I think some of you were talking about Infacol earlier - do you think that'd be worth a try?

Have a good night ladies


Whitey: I gave Infacol a try, but it is not recommended until 1 month. I don't think it worked for Joshua. I swear by Infants Friend, it is made in QLD and you can use it from birth.

TripleTime
10-09-2009, 14:48
Im a fan of infacol & infants friend. Girls have Infacol & DS has Infants friend. Works by turning all the wind in their bellies into one massive big bubble making it easier to pass.

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 15:13
Howdy gals!

Well, thought it was high time I posted in this thread. Been lurking long enough... I try to pop on at least once a day whilst breastfeeding bub to keep up to date with all of you. May I say you are all doing a mighty job. I am also loving the pics of your gorgeous bubs.

For those who aren't on facebook, I was posting as babylily during my pregnancy, for privacy reasons, but will be posting as raffee going forward.

So, mimi, could you please add me to the fab babylist you drew up for the 14th August?:)

Jacob has been a delight since his much-anticipated and long-overdue arrival 27 days ago. Like all bubs, he wakes for feeds often and has had a few days where he fed non-stop (probably due to a growth spurt), but despite the sleep deprivation I am loving my new addition and am enjoying every minute of it.

He's got a fierce milk rash atm, which is a little unsightly, but otherwise, he is doing great. We have our first clinic appointment on the 15th, so I will know then how much weight he's put on.

I am still eagerly awaiting news from purplesky... she's been on my mind a lot, and I'm praying that she had a smooth labour and is enjoying her new bundle too.

mimi, can I just say your professional pics are absolutely gorgeous. Wish I knew an affordable photographer who could take pics of my bub! For the moment, I have to settle for my snap-happy younger sister, who has a great canon camera (mine is broken).

Ok, gotta dash... will try to do more personals later!

I have little Jacob added now :)
And thank you. The pictures were taken by my Dad's god daughter, she did it for a present. Just like our wedding photos.
If you live in Melbourne, I could try and organise something for you. See if she is able to do it :)

daisy4300
10-09-2009, 15:24
Hi girls
Tried earlier to post but lost the whole thing. Am still around just been flat out and sick. Haven't caught up on everything so not sure whats been going on. I did briefly read a post from Courtney to Mimmi about not feeling so bad. It was beautiful Courtney and we need more people like you. It's because of that kind of support that I really miss u guys when I'm not popping in regularly. Hope to start contributing more again soon. And am waiting on news from Purplesky if we haven't heard already? :hugs:

Brood Mare
10-09-2009, 15:30
Hi girls
Tried earlier to post but lost the whole thing. Am still around just been flat out and sick. Haven't caught up on everything so not sure whats been going on. I did briefly read a post from Courtney to Mimmi about not feeling so bad. It was beautiful Courtney and we need more people like you. It's because of that kind of support that I really miss u guys when I'm not popping in regularly. Hope to start contributing more again soon. And am waiting on news from Purplesky if we haven't heard already? :hugs:

Nope I haven't heard anything about Purplesky, I hope she is doing alright.

Courtney83
10-09-2009, 16:48
Thanks Daisy, I agree, the support from these forums is invaluable! I hope you're feeling a bit better too, by the way, and all the yucky emotions are clearing away. You're like wonder woman looking after your six! Big hugs! We miss your advice when you're not around!! :hugs:.

veve
10-09-2009, 21:17
OK I think the mods won't mind us mentioning venues as long as there in no mention of dates, therefore stalkers can not find us as they won't know when to come.

I have thought of the following:

Zoo
Botanical Gardens
Flagstaff Gardens

I am not too good with the city so if anyone else has some ideas
sorry to jump into your thread :) but discussing a gathering is fine .. just leave ONE detail out (either date, location, time etc) - it just makes the gathering just that little bit safer. :yes:

Enjoy (and thank you for being such a lovely bunch of mums to moderate :D :hugs: )

raffee
10-09-2009, 21:47
I have little Jacob added now :)
And thank you. The pictures were taken by my Dad's god daughter, she did it for a present. Just like our wedding photos.
If you live in Melbourne, I could try and organise something for you. See if she is able to do it :)



:no:Not in Melbourne unfortunately... am a sydney-sider. I'm so envious of your gatherings! I wanna come too!!!

Daisy, hope you're on the mend real soon. I know its easier said than done, but you really need to take it easy. From one mum of 6 to another, do remember to be kind to yourself. :hugs:

Brood Mare
11-09-2009, 02:22
:no:Not in Melbourne unfortunately... am a sydney-sider. I'm so envious of your gatherings! I wanna come too!!!

Daisy, hope you're on the mend real soon. I know its easier said than done, but you really need to take it easy. From one mum of 6 to another, do remember to be kind to yourself. :hugs:

I am envious of our gatherings too, I missed out on the last one, because I played chicken with a teen on a bike, and lost.

Spinny
11-09-2009, 06:05
Mimmi I think it is time for us to start to organise the Melbourne Mummy's meet up. This will give you & I something positive to look forward to (& give me a reason to buy some new clothes)

Maybe we can organise a Sydney meet up - who is from Sydney?

Pangari
11-09-2009, 09:51
Morning ladies. Well Casper certainly kept me on my toes last night. The only pattern I can figure out from him is that we have one really good night where he sleeps through for 5 or 6 hours followed by the next night being a nightmare with him unsettled and grumpy for most of the night. Last night was the latter! Thankfully I had from 8.30pm to 10.30pm where both he and I slept. I am just sleeping whenever he does at the moment in a bid to stay sane.

From 10.30pm onwards he just would not settle and wanted constant booby juice! After 2 hours of him on and off the boob and me trying to put him down with no luck, I tried all the other settling techniques that usually work in order to give my 'girls' a break but with no success. The minute I put him in the cot he just started to howl the house down. I again resorted to taking him into the spare bedroom where I got some light sleep while he passed out for 3 hours. He seems to really respond well to sleep if he has human contact with either DH or I but I don't want this to become a habit! I had trouble sleeping though in the spare room as I was getting some discomfort from my c/s wound and my uterus contracting. While I am on the mastitis antibiotics I can't take other pain relief so I just had to suffer through it. Ho hum...the joys of mummydom! That said, he is just the most gorgeous boy and I do love him to bits!!!

The maternal health nurse was lovely. Casper has lost 30g since leaving hospital but it is only 5 days since we left so another couple of days and that 30g will be back on him. Thankfully the MH nurse was not worried at all and was just mind boggled at his length and size. No doubting he is thriving and healthy!

Anyway, I am right up for any Melbourne gathering we have. And Courtney...would be great if you could wangle a trip down here to join us! How cool would that be!!!! I am open to any of the locations. My only point with the zoo is that could bump the cost up as we would have to pay an entry fee. I am ok with that as it would be a fun day out anyway but wonder if we should not wait for a bit further down the track when the bubs can actually enjoy the animals a bit more being a bit more advanced. Just thoughts...I am flexible either way as I just can't wait to see all these bubs. We MUST take a camera this time and get pics!

Becca: The image of you with the puppies out is hysterical and especially the fact that you were able to collect some milk! Toooooo funny! But what a great idea. If it wasn't so cold here I would definitely be outside airing mine too!

Question: with the milk you collect how do you store it? And if you give it to your bub, do you reheat it and if so how? I am going to get just a hand held breast pump and try and store some milk for the odd occasion where I am going out, or where I need a break, but have no idea what to do with it once it is stored!

Am so thrilled that my mastitis is clearing up. My damaged nipple is recovering too. I think the cabbage leaves have helped the healing of the nipple a great deal and the mastitis...along with the antibiotics.

DH is off to the GP today to see what it is that he has got. He sounds like he is coughing up a lung at the moment and his eyes are bloodshot. He looks and sounds dreadful but is soldiering on to help me. He is cooking me bacon and eggs as I write this (bit of a late start to our morning). We make a good team I think. I am so grateful and blessed to have him in my life!

Well have raved on enough for now! Happy Friday campers!

marts
11-09-2009, 10:02
Hi girls :wave:

Hope you don't mind me joining in... again. Was briefly on BH earlier this year. Have also followed the end of your pregnancy journeys and just wanted to say what a great bunch of women you are!

You have really been an amazing source of inspiration and support to me and many others by the looks of it. What with lack of sleep, pelvic floor issues, sore nipples etc etc etc this baby stuff definitely ain't easy to me... so it's nice to know what other women are going through and I love the support you give to each other.

I'm having 'cluster ' feeding issues with Harrison (born 18 august so nearly 4 weeks) in the mornings at the moment. I think he's figured out night and day now, so morning are his unsettled time. Night feeds seem to be little short (sometimes only 15 minutes long – not sure if that's normal) with a lot of 'nibbling' and falling asleep, so not sure if that has anything to with it. But no crying in the night thank gawd!

I'm a Sydney-sider too (inner west) so very jealous about your Melbourne catch up. Right at this point I really feel the need to bond with other mummies... BUT Spinny, interested in a Sydney meet up!

H is stirring... so better go
Have a great Friday all
marta

Spinny
11-09-2009, 10:40
marts - WOW - I'm an inner-west mummy (well a suburb or two away)....any other Sydney mummies out there? anyone interested in meeting up? I'm happy to look into organising a catch up

Pangari
11-09-2009, 11:05
Welcome back Marts!

And well done Spinny on trying to organise a Sydney get-together!

beccalou
11-09-2009, 11:23
Just a quick one from me Im in sydney too :)

Pangari - dont worry about bubs wanting to be close its natural and the first six to twelve weeks they seem to need you the most. I think anything you do in this time is fine and after that you can start to establish routines etc.

marts - sometimes Angel only has a short feed too I wouldnt worry about it. As for the cluster feeding I think they are just trying to establish milk supply and will fall into more of a routine with feeding as they get a bit bigger. Its the same with sleeping it just takes time :rolleyes:

Spinny
11-09-2009, 11:41
Sydney August Mummies - if you feel comfortable PM me your suburbs so I can have a look at a place to meet that is central to us all. Also let me know your preference i.e. meet in park, meet for a meal....how exciting it will be to meet you all.

sim081005
11-09-2009, 13:01
Hi ladies

Beccalou I think you put a hex on me as I was at the hospital for my checkup and got up to go in as I was called, to discover milk flowing onto the flow, down the inside of my pants & the front of my top soaked. The MW from behind the counter flew at me with a towel and pushed it onto my boobs. I pulled out my breast pads to change them, which were only 1 hour old, to have them pour milk everywhere. I was so embrassed. Not sure how this happened as I had fed Mason 1 hour earlier. I did however have the laction cookies last night so don't know if they did it but what a time!!!

Pangari I have the same problem with Mason, one good night 2 bad. I have found that sleeping him on his stomach (I know this is a no no) as it helps with his upset tummy & wind. He slept for 6.5 hours last night but sounded like a trumpet all night.

Courtney I think we just might have to do 2 Melbourne meets so that we can meet you

As for the Melbourne meet up, has anyone got a preference for time frame and do we want to go somewhere with no cost or a little cost? Also will people be bringing older children that we need to think of as we don't want them to get bored.

AFM - I can stop taking the antibiotics for nipples & wound as they have all gotten rid of the infections. The bad news is it may take up to 3 months for my wound to completely close. I can go back to living my life as per normal meaning I have to do the washing & house work again :( but I am over the moon with the result

daisy4300
11-09-2009, 13:05
Am so thrilled that my mastitis is clearing up. My damaged nipple is recovering too. I think the cabbage leaves have helped the healing of the nipple a great deal and the mastitis...along with the antibiotics.


Hey Sweetie, not sure if you are aware but the cabbage leaves although exceptional for soothing boobies, can dry your milk up so if you're still breastfeeding just be careful. There is something in the leaves. Glad to hear the mastitis is clearing.

Brood Mare
11-09-2009, 13:06
Well it looks like it's really a spring day today, and I can tell because my eyes are itchy, my nose is running and I can't stop sneezing.
Can I even take anything for it, since I am BF?:confused:

JimJamsMum
11-09-2009, 13:27
Hi All, just a quick post from me.

Pangari- I express straight into a sterilised bottle which I cap and then put straight in the freezer. To use, I let it defrost in the fridge for a day and then DH will heat it up by letting it rest in water that has just been boiled. Also, it is easier to express if you do it at the same time as you are feeding ie bub on one side, pump on the other. You get a better let down that way.

I do my pelvic floor exercises every time I sit down to feed bub. That way I remember to do them and don't get interrupted. When I saw my ob he pointed out how important it is to keep doing them since half his practice is filled with pregnant women and the rest is women with weak bladder and prolapse issues from a weak pelvic floor. Ideally it should be a lifetime habit.

Have to dash, bub needs attention.

Courtney83
11-09-2009, 13:43
Hi ladies

Beccalou I think you put a hex on me as I was at the hospital for my checkup and got up to go in as I was called, to discover milk flowing onto the flow, down the inside of my pants & the front of my top soaked. The MW from behind the counter flew at me with a towel and pushed it onto my boobs. I pulled out my breast pads to change them, which were only 1 hour old, to have them pour milk everywhere. I was so embrassed. Not sure how this happened as I had fed Mason 1 hour earlier. I did however have the laction cookies last night so don't know if they did it but what a time!!!

Pangari I have the same problem with Mason, one good night 2 bad. I have found that sleeping him on his stomach (I know this is a no no) as it helps with his upset tummy & wind. He slept for 6.5 hours last night but sounded like a trumpet all night.

Courtney I think we just might have to do 2 Melbourne meets so that we can meet you

As for the Melbourne meet up, has anyone got a preference for time frame and do we want to go somewhere with no cost or a little cost? Also will people be bringing older children that we need to think of as we don't want them to get bored.

AFM - I can stop taking the antibiotics for nipples & wound as they have all gotten rid of the infections. The bad news is it may take up to 3 months for my wound to completely close. I can go back to living my life as per normal meaning I have to do the washing & house work again :( but I am over the moon with the result

Hey Sim,

OMG! How frustrating that must have been...and it's weird because you can't even feel the milk leaking out huh? When I was a bit clueless I remember feeding Amelia (or trying to) and when she was asleep I looked down at my top and was like - WHAT?

With regards to unsetted nights...I've been pretty lucky- I mean, she's never slept through the night - EVER - but she's consistant. She wakes up at 11pm, 3am and 6am without fail. Having said that, she has unsettled days sometimes...like the other day she was awake from 5am - 9.30pm...that was full-on!

And yay for the meet up...work it out amongst yourselves and I'll see what I can do :D.

Oh and Sim, you know how your c/s wound opened? If you don't mind me asking- what happened? How come it won't close for another three months? God that must have been awful for you...you're sposed to be taking it easy woman!! But it's so good that your infections have cleared up, that must feel good to know!

Oh...here's a little brag right here...I took Amelia to the community nurse today, and when she was weighed, we discovered that she'd put on 1kg in three weeks! OMGGGG! Always knew she was a chubba!

WTK
11-09-2009, 13:56
Hi gals :wave:

I haven't contributed much lately only because I've had my Mum and Dad here on a very quick 11 day visit. Its been so fabulous having them here, Dad has been cook and Mum has been the cleaner and on laundry duty. DF reckons Mum has OLD (Obsessive Laundry Dissorder!) Well they have just left and I'm a total mess :hissy: but will pick myself up and get on with it. (A big thanks to those of you who have commented on my fb status) DF goes back to work Thursday next week, so I will really need you guys then, I'll be all on my pat malone.

All is good tho in the land of DD, she is a real little darling. Can't believe she will be 6 weeks old on Sunday :eek: we have a MHN appt this afternoon and I'm hanging to see how much weight she has put on. We had the first exploding nappy situation this morning, all over DF, her clothes, blankets. She was given a bath, a fresh change of clothes (top back to front and sox inside out, DF's first attempt) and put back to sleep all while I was having a sleep in. Good girl :D

Pangari, JJM explained pretty much how I express and store EBM. It lasts 48 hrs after you have defrosted it and 6 months frozen. I, after expressing for Victoria while DD was in hospital, have now run out and so need to get back to it. DF does the early morning shift, 5,6 or 7am feed so I get to sleep in, he can't do it with no EBM, so back on the pump I go.

Myprincess - your 'visions' fascinate me. It's really the only thing I believe in, people and their visions. I'm not religious, at all, and so the after life, ghosts, presences, all that I find very interesting. Now the fact you have had 2 major 'visions' and look what they were! I'm shaking in my boots! twins? oh dear :o

Well loverlies, I must be off for my appt, and like I said from next Thursday on, you will see more from me. I'm all up for a Melbs meet up too. Just tell me where and when and Miss Penny and I will be there :flowerz:

marts
11-09-2009, 14:04
Spinny, have sent you a PM.
Hopefully all you Sydney girls can join – the more the merrier I say!

I'm exhausted, just went on walk that took an hour and half... don't know what I was thinking. Beautiful weather here in syd. Now it's feeding time... and hopefully a nap for Harrison and I

mx

Brood Mare
11-09-2009, 14:04
WTK - I am totally with you, and know how you are feeling. It will be hard at first, but take one step at a time, and it will get easier. It will, and we will be here for you, every step of the way! :hugs::hugs::hugs:

sim081005
11-09-2009, 14:25
Courtney my wound opened up a week after having Mason due to the infection leaving my body but it was only a pin hole. That was a Friday, by the Sunday I had 2 openings, one was 2.5cm long and a cm deep and the other was just over 4cm long & deep. The smaller one has closed completely but the bigger one is still 2cm long & 1.5 to 2 cm deep. The reason for the long time is it needs to heal from the inside out otherwise I will end up with a pocket of air & it will turn into an absus. It doesn't really hurt just makes me getting a little icky when DH has to pack it with seaweed stuff (it is white stuff that has seaweed in it that helps generate tissue) as it freaks me out a little. I can handle the fact that it will take so long as it is no longer gushing (sorry about this) crap anymore and making me smell like I haven't showered in 10 years.

I think poor DH will never look at me the same after seeing me go through the induction, c-section & now having to pack my wound. He has been wonderful & I could not have doen it without him.

Courtney83
11-09-2009, 14:59
Oh thanks for explaining, Sim.
I was just wondering because there was a similar situation that happened to my Aunty 20 years ago when she had my cousin. But for some reason (infection obviously) her stitches actually burst open...she was fine, just had to go on anti-biotics ect but yeah...a bit of a horror story!
That's no good, but I'm glad you're feeling better. Oh and don't worry about your DH, hopefully he WON'T look at you the same! You're heaps tougher than he could have imagined after going through childbirth...my DH says to my 24 y/o brother, "You're not a man till you've seen your missus have a baby"...lol...

And WTK....as I said on your FB status.... the day my Mum and Dad went back to Sydney, I was tearing up at the drop of a hat...and then...when they were actually leaving to go to the airport I just exploded! Could not keep it in! Like you, Mum was the cleaner/washing lady...Dad was dropping off and picking up Lily from school. It just feels like a safety blanket ripped out from under you. But seriously, each day you gain more confidence as you get to know Miss Penny...My DH only took two days off when Amelia was born! So when my parents left (they stayed for two weeks) then it was like...oh sh*t!!! It's actually kind of relaxing to be on your own with the bub...you bond and kinda get yourself into a loose routine.
You love her, she loves you...you guys are going to be fine :yes:.

And yeah, we'll all be here to chat when you need us!

Nadine25
11-09-2009, 16:14
Sydney meet- I am in Sydney too and am interested in meeting up :) I'd prefer a Thursday though because DD is in daycare that day (unless any of you have older kids going aswell). Spinny, I will PM you.

Courtney- Would you be interested in meeting up with all the Sydney girls when you are here? If so maybe we can arrange it for when you are here.... Thanks for the kind words too. It definately isn't easy when you don't know what is wrong. Sometimes I just let her cry for a minute or so, so she exhaust herself a bit. It sounds bad but when you have tried everything that is all that is left. The last two nights she was very good and did a 4hr stint between the bedtime feed and the midnight one and then a 5hr stint between the midnight feed and the next one. So I managed to get some descent sleep.

Pelvic floor- Mine was ordinary after DD's birth and I am still working on it. It was pretty bad at the end of the pregnancywith all the added pressure and I had to wear pads. Now it is better then it was whilst pregnant but I still can't stop my flow. I am very slack at remembering to do my pelvic floor which I need to change!

WTK- I had my mum here the first week home from hospital while DH finalised things at work. He has a month off at the moment and goes back in just over 2 weeks. I am a bit concerned as to how I will cope with the 2 girls on my own but I am sure I will be fine. We just have to take one day at a time and in no time we will be in a routine :) :hugs:

AFM- I am going fairly well. After having that shocker night the other night, we have had 2 good nights in a row (both nights she did a 4hr and 5hr stint between feeds) so I think it was just one of those unsettled nights they get every now and then. We have started using Infants friend aswell which I think is helping alot. She is a very windy baby and this definately helps her to get rid of the wind (as in farts LOL) easily and with minimal fuss. Luckily we don't have an issue with burping.

I hired a book from the library called "The new Contented little baby book" by Gina Ford and it has been a really good read so far. I highly recommend it if you are after some feeding tips (breast and bottle) and/or tips on sleep and routines etc.

marts
11-09-2009, 16:42
Sim, it brought a tear to my eye reading about your infection. You poor thing. I feel terrible for having my whinges... you are so strong and your DH is gold!
My DF has also been amazing and don't know what I would do without him!

sim081005
11-09-2009, 16:56
Sim, it brought a tear to my eye reading about your infection. You poor thing. I feel terrible for having my whinges... you are so strong and your DH is gold!
My DF has also been amazing and don't know what I would do without him!
Thanks marts but I really do think that I could be 100 times worse & it isn't that bad as it has made me stop & slow down & learn that I can't control everything. At the end of the day I will get over this and I got a healthy little man that lights up my days. (not nights as I am still not used to broken sleep. sigh)

mum2bubble
11-09-2009, 17:05
Hey ladies

Sorry its been sooo long (well 3 weeks). I have been reading, in between feeding burping changing etc but havent found the time to post. I have just posted my birth story back in the old sections but it is really long (i didnt realise until i had posted it!!)

:hugs:to all you amazing ladies for what you are going through, all the pain, emotions, sleep deprivation, hunger, frustration etc .... i have soo much more admiration for mothers (esp my own) after experiencing it first hand

Although, Tahlia is quite an easy baby. Im not breastfeeding as we had way too many issues, but she has settled since being on formula.

I think she has got the hang of day and night, she is a pain to get to sleep during the day, but goes to sleep easily at night so im lucky in that sense.

Well just saying hi and hopefully i will post more often!

:)

Californication
11-09-2009, 19:26
:wave: everyone,

Just popping in to say hello and let you know that we are finally home! Having some feeding issues hence the week in hospital, but we were allowed out last night and hubby had today off so been nice to hang with him and our little guy.

I've just spent a couple of hours reading all the posts to catch up - you guys have been busy!

I'll post more tomorrow as it's nearly time for me to wake William for a feed (don't hate me - I'm lucky so far in that he is a very good sleeper and if I don't wake him to feed, he will sleep 5 hours at a stretch!)

I'll also try to post my birth story - it's a doozy!

Look forward to chatting with you all again. I've missed you!

kitty galore
11-09-2009, 20:50
:wave: everyone,

Just popping in to say hello and let you know that we are finally home! Having some feeding issues hence the week in hospital, but we were allowed out last night and hubby had today off so been nice to hang with him and our little guy.

I've just spent a couple of hours reading all the posts to catch up - you guys have been busy!

I'll post more tomorrow as it's nearly time for me to wake William for a feed (don't hate me - I'm lucky so far in that he is a very good sleeper and if I don't wake him to feed, he will sleep 5 hours at a stretch!)

I'll also try to post my birth story - it's a doozy!

Look forward to chatting with you all again. I've missed you!

YAY!!! Helllloooo!!! I was about to send you a txt tonight to see if you were all good! No need to now!!

Glad you are home and well!!

Looking forward to hearing all about it soon!!

xxx

Spinny
12-09-2009, 08:58
SYDNEY MEET - WOW Nadine25 & Marts - your bubba were born on the same day - how cool when we meet up. I've got a really busy weekend ahead of me so any August Sexy Sydney Mumma's interested in meeting up send me a message and I will look into it early next week....and Courtney83 once it's organised I'll PM you as Nadine25 mentioned if you are in Sydney you are more than welcome to come along as well....now that would be really cool!

AFM - Totally forget to do my pelvic floor exercises, I REALLY need to get onto this as someone mentioned (sorry I forgotten who) what a better time to do them then while you are feeding - it's not like you can do much more, though I have learnt to do stuff one handed these days.

mum2bubble
12-09-2009, 10:16
Spinny- can you pm me details of the sydney meet up as well (when you guys have decided) ... im just south of wollongong and depending on when & where you guys decide i may join you all :)

Spinny
12-09-2009, 12:28
mum2bubble - will keep you in the loop. Also some of my DF's family are located in Wollongong & Shellharbour and we go down there occasionally for visits so if you can't make the Sydney one next time I'm going down there I'll PM you and let you know, maybe we can arrange a catch up

MiracleMum21
12-09-2009, 18:17
Hi,

My Name is Brittany, I am 22, and I gave birth to my first child, Jake, on the 31/08/09.

Labour and Delivery went smoothly, and Jake was breastfeeding perfectly, so we left hospital after 24hrs.

He is now 12 days old (where HAS that time gone?!).

He is such a calm, easy-going baby.
He only cries when he is hungry.
During the day, his feeds are all over the shop, as he prefers smaller "meals" (perhaps because of the heat).
But from 6pm - 9am, His feeds are every 3-4 hours, taking both breasts (sometimes 2 and a half) and he sleeps inbetween feeds.

My Partner, Glen, is an underground miner, and works 4 hours away, for 5 days+ at a time.
Unfortunatly he missed Jake's birth by an hour and a half as he drove back from work, but fortunatly i had my mum in the delivery room for support.

Glen went back to work on wednesday, and so far, i am coping really well! :thumbsup:

I am enjoying the one on one time with Jake
But cant wait for Glen to come home, as i love seeing them together, and want glen to bond with him as much as i have.

I just wish i had a car, friends and family here in Rocky...Some adult interaction would be nice.

Physically and mentally, I feel fantastic. :smiliedance:
I had 2 stitches to close a graze on my labia minora, which so far has healed nicely.

I had HUGE concerns about what my post-baby body would look like. But 2 days after birth, i was 4kg under my pre-baby weight, I was a pants/dress size smaller than i was pre-baby, and went up a cup size! HOORAY! :smiliedance::yelclap:
Glen swears I had lipo and a boob job, and just stole a baby! :-)

I am soooo in love with my new little man, and love my partner even more now he is a daddy!
:valentine:

well, thats my update.

Now i just have to remember to do my pelvic floor exercises!

Cheers,
Brittany :)