View Full Version : New Gastro Vax - Views please!!!!
Howdy,
We have the option of vaccinating bubs with the new Gastro vax, but I'm still very up in the air about it. The facts I know (and correct me if I am wrong and please add too!):
1. It is a LIVE virus taken orally twice (2 months after one and other). And for a while after each time you need to wash your hands quite a bit, esp after changing nappies etc (although we do anyway!) as it can be contracted by yourself.
2. It's $120! I know that's lame but it's a lot of money.
3. 85% of people who have the vaccine don't get the virus.
4. It doesn't cover all gastro bugs.
So if he gets vax'd and his cousin doesn't and she contracts it from daycare, how susceptible would he be to getting it? :confused:
I would be really interested to see views on this SPECIFIC vax and what people think about it. Is it the best thing to do??? Thoughts please!!! Thanks in advance!
~EmsMum~
27-06-2006, 13:28
id definately get it
p4purple
27-06-2006, 13:30
Sounds like a phamacetical company just reaping in more profits if you ask me. Just my opinion though.
I'd get it, both my boys have had it and it's devestating. Polio is also a live vax, but so long as you practise good hygine your are fine.
Rather be safe than sorry, wasn't it not so long ago that a 7 month old bub passed away after having server gastro?
~EmsMum~
27-06-2006, 13:37
I'd get it, both my boys have had it and it's devestating. Polio is also a live vax, but so long as you practise good hygine your are fine.
Rather be safe than sorry, wasn't it not so long ago that a 7 month old bub passed away after having server gastro?
you are right there sarie, ive seen my 11 month old brother with gastro, he was hospitlaised for over a week and I would NEVER want to see that happen to my DD
EskimoMumma
27-06-2006, 13:37
I will get it. FOr all my kids.
WE end up having it 1-3 times a year. and if it can cut it down to maybe just once a year, its money well spent.
Rather be safe than sorry, wasn't it not so long ago that a 7 month old bub passed away after having server gastro?
Oh that's terrible :crying:
We had it about a month ago (all of us) and it wasn't a pretty sight! LOL! We were in quarantine for a few weeks!
But I've heard that there are many gastro bugs and this one is only one of many....:eek:
bindiloo
27-06-2006, 13:44
Ive never heard of bubs or children dying from a cold or gastro virus,their bodies simply kick into action and do what they are programmed to do and thats fight it themselves and create its own immunity against such things.
I think these companies are raking in too much money on all these rediculous vaccinations they keep creating for things that we got as kids and it never killed us,we all fought these common colds and viruses every day and survived just fine.
It was only a few weeks ago in VIC, and yes bubs can die from the dehydration. If they aren't taking in enough fluids they can most certainly go down hill very quickly
Here's the link to the thread about it http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=25756&highlight=gastro
My baby won't be getting it.
~Emmylou~
27-06-2006, 13:54
No mine won't be getting it either.
Dehydration is easily addressed with a trip to the hospital and an IV if it's necessary. We've just been through that with DD when she had another type of virus that gave her throat and mouth ulcers.
DD had gastro at about 9 months, and although it wasn't pleasant it wasn't something I think she needs vaxing against. The times she has had it since were nowhere near as severe so she already has some natural immunity.
I have no problem vaccinating against things which have a high mortality rate, I'm not prepared to take risks like that.
But I'm not going to be doing it for things like gastro and chickenpox. It's just overkill to me.
bindiloo
27-06-2006, 14:03
Id rather keep up my babys fluid intake and risk them fighting a virus without having a live virus injected into their blood stream which would most definately give them the virus anyway straight after they get injected.
How many adults go and get the flu shots and actually get sick with the flu or cold after it,because thats what injecting the virus into your blood stream does to you. It gives you the virus so then your body can fight it and get an immunity to it but if bubs isnt totally 100% when they are injected then they can get ill anyway. so your basically putting that very virus straight into their tiny bodies.
But when a virus is contracted naturally through the nose or mouth then the body has time to recognise it and put up its defenses and begin to fight the virus whereas when it is injected straight into the blood stream then the body is shocked by it and hasnt had enough time to put up its defenses and fight it.That very injection simple travels thru the blood straight to the brain and the body has to work 10 times as hard to fight it than a child who just catches it naturally.
Im just sharing the information i have come to learn and am having an opinion,im not attacking anyone so i hope no-one gets offended or abuses me. I just read alot about how the injections work in the bodies and i dont think alot of people tend to go too in depth into the way they work once injected into our bodies.
No one should be upset about giving an opinion so long as all opinions are respected (I know some other threads have gone to the dogs because they believe theirs is the only right opinion)
But being asthmatic I normally get a flu jab every year. This year I was sick when I needed to get it and now it's too late to really have any affect - and I'm pregnant and sick again, so I still couldn't get it if I wanted too.
Id rather keep up my babys fluid intake and risk them fighting a virus without having a live virus injected into their blood stream which would most definately give them the virus anyway straight after they get injected.
How many adults go and get the flu shots and actually get sick with the flu or cold after it,because thats what injecting the virus into your blood stream does to you. It gives you the virus so then your body can fight it and get an immunity to it but if bubs isnt totally 100% when they are injected then they can get ill anyway. so your basically putting that very virus straight into their tiny bodies.
But when a virus is contracted naturally through the nose or mouth then the body has time to recognise it and put up its defenses and begin to fight the virus whereas when it is injected straight into the blood stream then the body is shocked by it and hasnt had enough time to put up its defenses and fight it.That very injection simple travels thru the blood straight to the brain and the body has to work 10 times as hard to fight it than a child who just catches it naturally.
Im just sharing the information i have come to learn and am having an opinion,im not attacking anyone so i hope no-one gets offended or abuses me. I just read alot about how the injections work in the bodies and i dont think alot of people tend to go too in depth into the way they work once injected into our bodies.
Don't stress about being 'offensive', I'm after opinions here and glad for any information and views people can give :D
But thanks for being so conscientious!
the_queen
27-06-2006, 14:10
No from me :)
I would definitely. We spent 4 nights in Hospital with our son then 9mths old with Gastro. It was a terrifying experience and I wouldn't wish anyone to go through that. When a child gets a severe case of Gastro the only way to keep fluids up is with a drip and possibly a feeding tube up the nose directly into the stomach. We ended up with both as he wasn't able to drink and hold anything down.
Milliner
27-06-2006, 17:22
Not sure yet I don't think that I will give it to him!
3cherubs
27-06-2006, 18:42
My DD2 got the bug and was in hospital for 24hrs, had the tube and that did not work so had a drip. She eventually got over it, but i am 50/50 about the vaccine.
If the cost came down maybe??
Tea Lady
27-06-2006, 19:28
Is gastro a virus or is it another kind of infection? I can't remember but I'm pretty sure you only (usually) get viruses once, so if it was a virus you might only save yourself one bout of illness. Mind you that could be worth it if you can avoid the dehydration etc. I'll ask the doc about it on our next visit :detective:
Tea Lady
27-06-2006, 19:30
Derrr I just read your OP again and you said it's a virus! Maybe it would be worth checking whether people get the same type of gastro more than once?
sopolicha
27-06-2006, 19:31
From what I heard and read about it, the vaccine is only for rota virus, and is only effective in children aged two and under.
stormanet
27-06-2006, 19:40
hiya... i didn't read all the posts but I just had a conversation with my pharmacist last week... apparently it can only be given when bub is 2 months old and 4 months old, after that it is too dangerous to give... I was so annoyed as we were going to get Christopher to have it... he is way too old so it wasn't an option.
K
hiya... i didn't read all the posts but I just had a conversation with my pharmacist last week... apparently it can only be given when bub is 2 months old and 4 months old, after that it is too dangerous to give... I was so annoyed as we were going to get Christopher to have it... he is way too old so it wasn't an option.
K
Oh that's interesting....I will have to look into that.....:detective:
cheezelkat
27-06-2006, 21:29
I wouldn't get it for any subsequent children.
I spoke with my doctor about it as Eloise has just gotten over a nasty bout of gastro.
See info here. (http://www.gsk.com.au/gskinternet/publishing.nsf/Content/Rotarix)
And an article here (http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19156048-953,00.html).
jessgray
28-06-2006, 08:34
thanks for the info. i was going to say its for the rotavirus or however you spell it lol
but you all beat me to it hehehe
my son had gastro over easter he got it from daycare and we spent his first easter at home coz of it. we are thinking about it but i think i will look into a bit more. coz i dont want him to get gastro again
Thanks for the info Razzle :D
little mermaid
28-06-2006, 21:49
Rota virus is just not gastro it is an extremely bad strain of it. I have worked in childcare for 11 years and believe me it is not a very nice virus at all, it is 10 times more explosive (from both ends)Sorry for TMI. And it stays in the system for weeks. So if you plan on your children being in group care or around a large number of children I would highly recommend it. :barf:
Although my dd is 5 years old and therefore too old to get the vaccine ... she is one of the kids that would have really benefitted from it!
The doctor was considering giving it to her, but as it is a live virus, the risks would have been far too high.
You see, my dd has an immune deficiency when it comes to rotavirus ... she has to be hospitalised within hours and put on a high flow drip to combat dehydration etc. She ends up in hospital for about a week before she even starts moving in her bed ... all the time previously, she just lies there not speaking, eating or doing anything, just looking like a pale shadow of herself. She usually loses a heap of weight (which she can't afford to do as she is tiny anyway) and things get really scary for us. I have become an expert at getting weight back onto her afterwards in a healthy manner where she is able to retain it. She was hospitalised 4 times last year ... nothing this year so far and I pray that it doesn't happen!
If I could immunise her against this, I would! As it was, we delayed her scheduled imms due to adverse reactions to them as a bub ...
If you breastfeed, your child is more likely to be covered due to you producing the antibodies. I had gastro when K was 3 months old and she didn't even get a whiff of it. As I am planning to bf for two years, I'm not going to worry about the vaccine.
reAllytee
10-07-2006, 00:13
If you breastfeed, your child is more likely to be covered due to you producing the antibodies.
Yes tell that to my aunty who breastfed all 5 of her boys yet every single one of them got it !!!!
3boys1girl
11-07-2006, 09:27
Its only babies that can have it to.
My DD is 14mths old and the Dr said she was to old to have it. It wouldnt have worked, So it only works while they are small.
I wouldnt get it anyway. SO many needles these days!!! If you get on top of gastro and take them to the Dr early enough so they are not to dehydrated then they will be fine. Im sure the babies that died from it where taken to the hospital to late!
DD is too old for it now but I'd hold off...with it being such a new vax I like to see the results first (ie. how many people get sick after the vaccine).
DBF and I were really violently ill three weeks ago...fainting and all from gastro. DD is bf and she didn't get sick at all, which was amazing because she was recovering from brochiolitis.
Hokey Pokey
11-07-2006, 10:45
I would definately do it!!!! Gastro took me down really badly last year a few times!!:barf:
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