8 Year old found murdered in shopping centre toilets in Perth [Archive]

little mermaid

26-06-2006, 23:08

I just heard on the news that an 8 year old has been found murdered in a Perth suburban shopping centre toilet. What is going on in this state at the moment just one thing after another. :no: :crying:

Charlie

26-06-2006, 23:17

Thats just Awfull.....do they know what happen??? :crying:

PhAnToM

26-06-2006, 23:22

:eek:
Oh my goodness! :barf:
What is going on in this country!!!:mad:

angcaltam

26-06-2006, 23:49

What is this World coming to??? Do they know what happened???

It is just so sad :gloomy: :crying: and so :barf:

nemosmum

27-06-2006, 06:40

That poor child:( :crying: :no:

Just another reason to always supervise our children and go with them tothe toilet

mumoftwoboys2005

27-06-2006, 08:05

Apparently, she was out shopping with her 14 year old brother and her uncle. Her brother found her when she did not return from the toilets. They have a description of the man, but are not releasing any more information about how she passed.

I feel so sorry for the family. I had started to let DS#1 (7 years old) go to the toilets by himself, with me outside of course, but this has changed my mind and it's back to the parents room for us.

Joanne.

nemosmum

27-06-2006, 08:23

Its hard isnt it Joanne, when you have a son and they get to the stage where they want to be independant and no longer want to go to the WOMENS toilets.............same when dads are with their daughters

I think the parents rooms are a great alternative :thumbsup:

Bexta

27-06-2006, 08:44

:mad:

...also worry about the 14yo brother. He''ll live with the image of her in his mind forever. I just hope he dosn't blame himself:crying:

Elfin

27-06-2006, 08:48

This is just too awful for words. Hope they get that mongrel:mad: That poor family:crying:

I never let my son go to the toilet alone. At swimming he has to get dressed in the ladies change room as there is no parents room. He has to come inot the ladies wherever there is no parents room. I have had a couple of looks but I think stuff you, I am not going to put my son at risk for anyone.

~EmsMum~

27-06-2006, 08:53

that is so sad :(

Hokey Pokey

27-06-2006, 08:58

:crying: How awful... and to think it could happen to your own little one :crying:

what evil person could do such a thing :mad:

razzle

27-06-2006, 09:04

Here is the link to the story... shocking

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19603041-28793,00.html

~EmsMum~

27-06-2006, 09:06

Here is the link to the story... shocking

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19603041-28793,00.html

thanks for the link razzle :)

MumsieMel

27-06-2006, 09:16

:no: :crying: :crying:

Jax Tellers Old Lady

27-06-2006, 09:18

I just saw this on the news I just cant imagine how the poor family is coping. I cannot understand how someone could do that to a precious child i Pray they find the ******* and justice can be served:(

Manxie

27-06-2006, 09:32

:( :mad: :( :mad:

That is just terrible. What are you supposed to do these days to keep children safe? You'd think that at that age they would be safe to just pop to the loo on their own. That it just shocking.

brooke

27-06-2006, 09:38

thats just too sad for words! :gloomy:

what is the world coming too.. why the hell would some one do such a thing!
makes me so mad that there is such evil people in the world!

My thoughts are with the family! Her poor brother.. he will live with that for the rest of his life! :crying:

LittleBoysRock

27-06-2006, 09:44

This happened at my local shops!!! I was there on Saturday and I shop there every week. Actually I use the disabled toilet all the time as there isnt a toilet you can take a pram into in the parents room.

It makes me sick!! I hope they find the sick so and so who did this! :banghead:

My heart goes out to the girls family.:hugs:

I say there should be child friendly toilets at all shopping centres. Maybe a few unisex toilets so that children never have to go to the toilet unattended.

PhAnToM

27-06-2006, 09:47

It's so disturbing isn't it? :(
It's like people just kill for the sake of doing it. You know, you go out shopping, go out working and go out hunting humans... I just don't get it! :no:

What would someone get out of killing a poor innocent child?
I don't condone killing adults, but the point i'm making is, at that age, I can't imagine that they could do anything to turn even a psycho into a hunter... you know as a provocation.
I can't get my head around this stuff.
It's just... distressing and disturbing.
Humans will never really evolve it seems! :banghead:

SamanthaJane

27-06-2006, 09:52

OMG:eek:

That really breaks my heart:crying::crying:
Some people are so evil and twisted, its disgusting!:barf:

damien's mum

27-06-2006, 10:01

That is so horrible, and sad, what that poor family must be going thru
Danae, do you know which shopping centre it was?
Well DS is not old enuff to go to the toilet, lol he is still in nappies, but i will not be letting him go to the toilet himself, i see mums that take their boys into the ladies, and i think that is what i will be doing....

p4purple

27-06-2006, 10:11

I never let my son go to the toilet alone. At swimming he has to get dressed in the ladies change room as there is no parents room. He has to come inot the ladies wherever there is no parents room. I have had a couple of looks but I think stuff you, I am not going to put my son at risk for anyone.

I would do exactly the same. Its a sad world we live in and we have to protect our own. That poor brother and uncle. How were they to know that a monster was lurking? They actually ran after him when they saw him come out of the toilets. It makes me feel sick.

mim

27-06-2006, 10:31

I heard this on the news last night and cried :crying:
That poor beautiful little girl, and her poor brother and uncle, I can't even begin to imagine how they feel :crying:

What is the world coming to? My eldest two are getting to an age where they want to only go to 'their' (Male or female) toilets. I've never let them go on their own and probably now never will :o
I so agree with the idea of unisex toilets. I think these days things like that, unfortunately, are so desperately needed.
I'm so scared now....you never think these things would happen so close to home....

Anne xxx

damien's mum

27-06-2006, 10:32

p4purple

27-06-2006, 10:46

I just cant believe that i havent heard anything of this, over the news, or papers...
Yet, with everything that is going on in the world, they still manage to put nicole kidmans wedding, on the news first... doesnt that make you sick... Here are children are in danger, and yet her getting married, makes the first story... what is wrong with the media, let alone society... :mad:

It will be the leading story on the news today and tonight. It was front page on the Sydney Morning Herald online today...along with the socceroos loss. www.smh.com.au She was only found at 4.10 yesterday arvo and after preliminary investigations and informing family etc, it made it into the late night news.

I feel like stories on SVU, Law and Order and CSI are becoming our norm in Australia. Does something like this happen every day in the USA? Its just so hard to stomach it happening here in Australia.

Hokey Pokey

27-06-2006, 10:51

Gosh, just seen it on the news and my, I can't stop crying.... I feel so emotional and I don't even know the family. Does anyone else get like this? Think maybe it is cos my eldest is 7 and a half and I think what if that was her and get awful visions of that little girl left behind like that :crying: :crying: :crying:
Think I need to stay away from these kinds of stories, this one has upset me soo much :crying:

OceBel

27-06-2006, 11:08

RIP little girl. and i hope they find the scum who did this and put him away, but knowing our justice system who knows.

They have a description of the man, but are not releasing any more information about how she passed.
Joanne.

I would hate to know what happened to her:barf:

Shazbutt

27-06-2006, 11:09

I only heard about this this morning. What that poor boy and his family must be feeling. :crying: I hope the guy is found and dealt with accordingly...if the Australian justice system can manage that....:mad:

Nowhere is safe anymore....:no:

jkate

27-06-2006, 11:09

My heart goes out to the family. It is so awful and scary that this can happen in the middle of a day at a busy shopping centre, makes you want to wrap your kids in cotton wool. :crying:

kylie80

27-06-2006, 11:13

This too is my mums and I' s local shopping centre. This is so distressing, I hope they catch the *******.

RIP little girl. why do these things happen to such innocent people?

*Chels*

27-06-2006, 11:13

I cannot believe this could happen at a shopping centre in broad daylight!!
How terrible for her brother to find his dead,naked sister.
I hope the ******* who did this rots in hell!!!
My thoughts are with this poor family.I hope that little girl is now at peace.

Mum&bubs

27-06-2006, 11:16

This story has made me so upset :crying: that poor little girl didnt even get a chance to live long enough! That mungrel on the other hand :mad: :mad: he is just a true blooded animal! if that! I am so mad! I hope they find him & he gets exactly what he deserves!

oleander

27-06-2006, 11:19

Its not just in your state, its everywhere! I live in Adelaide and on the news last night there was a story about an 11year old boy who got raped by two adult men in the city. Im pretty sure it happened in public toilets aswell and the offenders took photos of there crime - this happened on Sunday night.

Milliner

27-06-2006, 11:32

OMG!!!! That is so sad!!!:crying: :crying:

~Emmylou~

27-06-2006, 11:37

It's things like this that just make me want to take my kids and go live on a mountain somewhere.

It's an awful reminder of how easily we can lose all we have. That poor little girl, and her poor family. God I can't even imagine.

p4purple

27-06-2006, 11:40

This too is my mums and I' s local shopping centre. This is so distressing, I hope they catch the *******.

RIP little girl. why do these things happen to such innocent people?

What a horrible thing to happen anywhere but in your own community!!!!..... its just an outrage. If I were you I would pick some flowers and lay them at the shopping centre if you can.

This man will get caught! They have footage of him. The justise system will put him away for life and his life wont be worth living in prison. He will be bashed, raped and humiliated and I hate to say it but he deserves pain. He should be hanged. I feel nauseated. The whole country is mourning the loss of this little girl.

Niki

27-06-2006, 11:55

some ppl are such sickos its scary to know they live among us and we dont know who they are! the poor children who are the victims of these crimes it just isnt fair!!

Hokey Pokey

27-06-2006, 12:00

How awful Lisa.... :mad:

Tulp

27-06-2006, 12:34

I'm just lost for words.. :crying: The poor child.

A 21-year-old man has been charged with murdering and sexually assaulting the little girl. Well hope they don't let this one off easy.

www.smh.com.au (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/man-charged-with-girls-murder/2006/06/27/1151174162580.html)

Hokey Pokey

27-06-2006, 12:37

So they have found him?? Oh If only I could get my hands on the mongrel :mad:

~Emmylou~

27-06-2006, 12:38

Thank God they've got him.
Bring back capital punishment :mad: PIG.

Cupcake

27-06-2006, 12:44

Oh they got him, thankgod for that!!!!
I say put the Animal in prison with the general population (none of this protected ****) & let them have there way with him :mad:
This is why we need the death penalty back!! For sick people like this, why should we pay to keep this person alive :no:

babytoo

27-06-2006, 12:47

All I can say is thank god they got him! I can only imagine the pain that family will live with for the rest of their lives...the poor brother as well, coming across his sister...god, may she rest in peace! I am just going to go and hug my beautiful DS and DD right now!

jessgray

27-06-2006, 13:02

i heard about it on the news. so sad. whats going on with WA ? i'm glad they got the sicko.

Bexta

27-06-2006, 13:15

I just clicked on the link that razzle posted earlier... it has an updated story.

I'm so miserable today after reading about this & can't wait to go & pick my 8 year old daughter up from school.... & bury my head in her hair & breathe her in & kiss her.:crying:

Missus S

27-06-2006, 13:33

He'll get his comeuppance in prison being a CHILD MURDERER!

Horrific. As Paris*Mum mentioned, here in Adelaide an 11 year old boy was lured away from a skate park and brutally raped a few days ago and the sickos took photos whilst they were doing it!!

Unfortunately, it's sickening events like these that make us realise how careful we have to be with our precious ones :(

Tulp

27-06-2006, 13:41

Crimes against children are the worst crimes, totally despicable. The perpertrators should have the book thrown at them. :mad:

We are coming to a point where we may have to teach our kids they can't trust anyone, for their own safety. :(

*Chels*

27-06-2006, 14:04

Yay That Got The B*****d!!!!

SamanthaJane

27-06-2006, 14:16

Yup!:yes::yes:

Mischief

27-06-2006, 14:19

Thank God they've got him.
Bring back capital punishment :mad: PIG.

I'm with you! What a horrible discusting man! I cant even say he's an animal...animals dont act like that!

The poor little girl....:crying: Oh and how her poor family must be stuffering. :no: :crying:

Wish_Bear

27-06-2006, 14:19

God I am so glad they got the filthy *******!! What a dispicable person. She was 8 for goodness sake. What is the world coming to!:mad:

Yes he will get what he deserves in prison but he will live. He took that right away from that poor little girl and her family. How will they live through this tragedy. I agree with everyone saying bring back the death penalty....an eye for an eye!:crying:

ForeverMine

27-06-2006, 14:32

That is absolutely outrageous...

What's worse is he sexually assulted her... thank god they got him and he hopefully will get locked away forever...

What makes someone do that? How does someone get kicks out of it????

Grrrrrrrrr it makes me sooooooo angry

~EmsMum~

27-06-2006, 14:34

im to glad that have caught that ****ing butthead

mumtok&z

27-06-2006, 14:38

I just read the story about this and it has made me feel sick. We live 10 minutes away from this shopping centre and go ther a few times a week. It is a little to close to home.

kuz78au

27-06-2006, 14:46

This is just the saddest thing, I can't believe there are people like this in the world, preying on helpless innocent children. :crying:

I'm glad they got him, like ppl say he will get what's coming to him in prison. And I can also tell you that the cops won't be nice to him either.

That's terrible too about the boy in Adelaide. :crying:

I say line them all up and shoot them down after being castrated of course. No other way. It's horrific to think what these children go through and horrific how some people get away with it.

The more we are on the lookout for these people, the more we can put them away.

poshBecks

27-06-2006, 14:46

:crying: So sad!!

Note to self: Never let Ella or Cj go to the loos on their own until they are at least 21!!!!!

CarolineF

27-06-2006, 15:05

I don't want to burst any bubbles, but this man still has to undergo a trial etc, he is not yet convicted.

There are so many stones to turn, forensics etc that anything can happen between now and then.:(

I hope for the sake of everyones children that this is the man. It may be one creep off the streets, but I hope that parents do not become complacent thinking, thats OK he's been caught.

Lets hope the police cross all their T's and . their i's.:fingerscrossed:

Mum&bubs

27-06-2006, 15:20

At least they have him in custody now so he cant harm any one else!

Sabby

27-06-2006, 15:33

Thats is so horrible for that little girl and what her family is going through right now....

Mum&bubs

27-06-2006, 17:11

Did anyone watch ten news?
they showed a picture of the little girl & she was soo beautiful it makes me even more upset :(
they also showed the mungel and he just made me sick :barf:

Mrs Dolphin

27-06-2006, 17:42

This poor little innocent girl...my heart goes out to her family.
This shopping centre is near where I live and I go there quite regularly so it is a little too close to home for me. The area it is in is such a nice family area too - certainly what you would expect In Canningvale.

The scariest thing is that it could have happened at ANY shopping centre anywhere. What will it take to take scum like this out of society?

LA62

27-06-2006, 17:49

these days everything concerning our children is scary....this is just soooo sad.

i have never let my children go to the toilets by themselves as i am so paranoid about thats sort of stuff, im from england and that sort of stuff is on the news daily!!...my son is 7 and i wont let him even play on our local green when i see other kids the same age playing etc

Its sad to think that we have to wrap our kids in cotton wool at all times, when our kids are missing out on freedom!

Its so sad:crying:

Shazbutt

27-06-2006, 17:58

I'm so glad they caught the piece of ****. May he rot in hell. :mad:

Rhoxie

27-06-2006, 18:03

bigglet

27-06-2006, 18:18

I cannot believe this- it is sooo sad and such a waste of beautiful life :gloomy:

I do feel so much for the family and her brother who made the discovery- this will forever haunt him. :(

This was someone's beautiful daughter, sister, niece, loved one. My heart just breaks thinking of this. :crying:

When I was about 8 years old I used to go swimming with my Dad and brother and one day a man yelled at me in the change rooms (I was in the male change rooms) to get out. I remember that day well- I was terrified and when I went to the female change rooms I felt so alone and scared.
I think it's very hard for a girl to go to the toilet with her dad than it is for a boy to go to the toilets with his mum. I remember my DH changing my DD's nappy in a male toilet (yes they had change tables in the men's bathroom!!) and he said he got a lot of strange looks. I hope he is able to take her to the toilet when they are out together so she doesn't have to go alone. I am still so so upset about this story. :no:

SamanthaJane

27-06-2006, 18:36

Too many sickos in this world... yuck yuck yuck :barf:

I dont understand how people can be so evil:crying:

LittleBoysRock

27-06-2006, 19:21

This story breaks my heart and it is far too close to home for me. I was just at Livingstone shops on Saturday for the Big W sale :(

I've heard on the local grapevine (note this is not substaniated) that the offender was known to the staff/shopkeepers and may at one time have been employed at Livingstone.
Also the Parents were called to the shops afterwards and the screams of anguish could be heard through out the centre. :crying::crying::crying: It tears me apart just thinking of what the parents must be going through.

Big W is apparently closed today out of respect.

I have an 8 year old boy and I think it will be a long long time before he'll be allowed to use public toilets by himself

I was there Saturday too Roxy. My Mum actually went to the toilet (the same one) on saturday by herself while I had some photos printed!! TOO CLOSE TO HOME!!

She was a gorgeous little girl and apparently the attacker did work part-time in one of the stores.

Personally I hope he rots in hell. I will being SO careful with my son!!

OceBel

27-06-2006, 19:25

just saw pictures of her on the tv, pretty girl, so sad such a beautiful face has been taken away.

OscarTheGrouch

27-06-2006, 20:39

I can't think of anything to say.... it's just too sad for words.:crying: I hope the poor little girl went quickly without having to suffer more than what she already had. The poor family, they must be going through hell. What's this country coming to?

TwoBlue

27-06-2006, 20:42

:crying: i am just too sad to say anything...

my heart goes out to the family of this poor, precious soul...

B-belle

27-06-2006, 20:53

:no:The suspect is as old as me...I cant understand...people who do that, how can they be human.
:barf:
It is things like this that make me think hell is on earth
:gloomy:

Starlet

27-06-2006, 21:50

That poor little girl :(

I've felt sick all day just thinking about what she went through and how her family must be feeling right now.

I too live only 10 mins away from the shopping centre. My friend was IN Big W when it happened.

I can't believe someone would do that to a little child. Like one of the girls said, you would never have expected something like that to happen in Canning Vale.

DIANNEKB

27-06-2006, 21:51

This is so awful how could someone want to do this???

I feel sorry for the little girls family and I also feel sorry for that mongrels family... they have to live with the fact they raised a monster for 21 years of his life...

Thats shopping centre is so small compared to some and to think it can happen anywhere... I just dont know what to say I am totally disgusted and sad...

little mermaid

27-06-2006, 21:57

This B******D not only killed this poor innocent girl he has basically murdered the brother too as he will never recover from this to live a normal life.
It just tears me appart for this poor little thing to die such a a painfull traumatic death. (wont go into the details) :crying: :crying: :banghead:

cassi*girl

28-06-2006, 14:56

This is the most horrific thing..............my heart goes out to that poor girls family.
My only hope is that she didn't suffer..poor precious little girl.:(

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Cinta

28-06-2006, 15:30

Anyone see the West Australian newspaper today?

The mother of the guy apparently responsible for the little girl's murder was supposed to have said that her son is not a violent person. :confused:

What sort of person would want to rape and murder an innocent little girl. What a sick guy. Seems to be happening more and more lately though :( Pretty damn scary, whats this world coming to??!!

Poor little girl, i really feel for her and her family :(

Edit - Oh and the West Australian said that they had spoken to the guy and his Mum last year about something but wouldn't say what it was about for legal reasons....So do you think he has been in trouble with the law previously...?? :confused:

Rhoxie

28-06-2006, 15:40

re-the west Australian today -- I read it too -- It sounded very weird. I wasn't quite sure whether the non-violent comment by the mother was from this year or if it was from the interview they did last year. :confused:

By the time I got to the end of the article it sounded more like the mother's comments (that her son was not violent) were from the previous interview. .... It's all very odd. If she said he wasn't violent last year ..... then what did he DO for her to be interviewed about it and give her cause to say that ....???

It sounded like there was a previous incident before this one -- :mad:

CarolineF

28-06-2006, 15:41

This is the most horrific thing..............my heart goes out to that poor girls family.
My only hope is that she didn't suffer..poor precious little girl.

Its a tragedy. This family will be haunted for many years, and that poor brother will need therapy for the rest of his life. :crying: Whoever did it, may he rot in hell.:devil6:

Hokey Pokey

28-06-2006, 15:46

They showed his face last night on Telly... he did look familiar.. think I've seen him on TV before :confused:

shed

28-06-2006, 15:47

I did hear that he has been arrested for sexual assault on an 8 year old girl before but it got thrown out on a technicality.

I felt SICK. I felt SICK that I am bringing a child into this disgusting world.

That innocent little girl out with her family in a shopping centre. And they were looking for her and the toilet was "Occupied" when they were looking. He was in there doing that when they were looking. Oh god, how will they ever get over that? Knowing they were outside that door when that was happening.

My niece is seven, not that much younger, and she is so young and so sweet and so precious.

I want that man to pay. I don't want to pay taxes for him to be in jail. I want him gone from this world before my baby arrives.

If only.

little mermaid

28-06-2006, 16:40

OMG I think I am going to be sick right now:barf:

Ana Gram

28-06-2006, 16:55

Now we can see how witch hunts gathered momentum. Why don't we all settle and try not to buy into any random rumour that comes along. Let's have a bit of repect for this poor family in a terrible time.

melfunction

28-06-2006, 16:59

I see the rumour mill is alive and well.....

Now we can see how witch hunts gathered momentum. Why don't we all settle and try not to buy into any random rumour that comes along. Let's have a bit of repect for this poor family in a terrible time.

Well said :yelclap:

2 Cherubs

28-06-2006, 17:39

I feel the same!!!

Its just so close to home here and I think we are all in shock. My Nephew attends the same school and knows of her....

Sending my heartfelt thoughts and prayers to Sofia's family!
A beautiful angel above !!!!!
xxxxxxxxx

Niki

28-06-2006, 20:06

even if it was him the police cannot indentify its him or they themselves will go to jail

Bron

28-06-2006, 21:52

I've just deleted all the posts in this thread that refer to rumours about the identity of the offender.

Please be careful when speculating on matters such as this, bubhub is a public forum which can be viewed by anyone.

Thank you

Imogensmum

28-06-2006, 22:43

I sit here crying and trying to understand why someone would do this to a child- murder and rape of anyone is a henious crime but on such a young innocent child. I hope that precious girl RIP.:crying: :crying: :crying:

Grizabella

28-06-2006, 22:43

Lunar

28-06-2006, 22:59

Truely, truely sad.
I hope the little girl is at peace now and her family are well supported. They are in my thoughts and prayers.
I just can't believe there are ppl in this world that are like that.
Children are so precious.
:crying:

BlessedWithBlue

29-06-2006, 01:01

i'm glad to hear they got that animal, people like that make me afraid to bring my own children into the world. What in the h** is this world coming to when our children cannot remain innocent and not brought into the sick heads of these sick individuals. My thoughts and prayers are with the little girl's family, i am just so disturbed and upset by this i'm in tears:crying:

SamanthaJane

29-06-2006, 10:39

gillianf

29-06-2006, 10:51

I just keep thinking about the horror that must have been going through her mind while this was happening to her. I can only hope and pray that she passed out and died quickly....I feel sick sick sick

Our children as supposed to be SAFE around adults - protected....how can ppl do this????

mich71

29-06-2006, 11:33

it is sad but if the police did there job proberly 3yrs ago when he did it to another little girl it was thrown out on a tecknaclity she might still be alive today your heart goes out to her family

Mum&bubs

29-06-2006, 11:52

Well i hope they lock this mungrel up & throw away the key :mad: :mad: but then again he doesnt deserve that sort of luxury!

SamanthaJane

29-06-2006, 11:59

Mmm:yes:

These people are disgusting:mad:

Mum&bubs

29-06-2006, 12:01

Mmm:yes:

These people are disgusting:mad:

without fail!! I dont see how ANYONE could do such a thing. They obviously have problems & are not normal. Dont deserve the right to be living anywhere near anyone.

SamanthaJane

29-06-2006, 12:07

without fail!! I dont see how ANYONE could do such a thing. They obviously have problems & are not normal. Dont deserve the right to be living anywhere near anyone.

Nope... i just dont see how people can do such evil things... I dont understand what goes through their minds. And i dont believe they can ever be fully rehabilitated... :no:

They should be locked up forever!:shame:

CarolineF

29-06-2006, 13:33

poshBecks

29-06-2006, 13:34

The mods have had to delete everything about this rumour once or twice already due to legal reasons, there is no evidence to support this rumour!
The police said on the news this morning that is not true... lets just leave it hey.