July 2009 Babies....here they are!!! [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

dbdb

19-07-2009, 16:06

Hi everyone!

Finally had almost 4 hours consecutive sleep last night for the first time, amazing how human it has made me feel. Then after her morning feed, DH took her downstairs and when she next was hungry, gave her some expressed milk (though I woke up not long afterwards as I was leaking milk everywhere and expressed 120ml!)

Casii - sounds like an awful time with breastfeeding, hope that it is getting better. I had an awful time and when I finally got the attachment right, I was amazed that i could feed without agony. :fingerscrossed: for you...

Murraycat - sounds like you had a very difficult birth, hope you are recovering. Glad you had some joy with the swaddling.

I have given up on wrapping as I don't think it made any difference, and maybe even made things worse as she would squirm and scream until she got her arms out! I loosely wrap her beneath the arms at night then put her blanket over her. the other night she wriggled up the bed until she had no blankets on at all! I use wondersuits at night so her hands and feet are covered...

Isobel was also very noisy and active all night, so few days ago I moved her basinnet into her own room. I was so anxious at first and had planned to have her in with us for 6 months, but I have found that we both sleep better. I realised that all the noises didn't mean she was awake, but it meant that I was only dozing, wondering whether she was going to wake up. I have the baby monitor set to not to pick up every little noise, but when she coughs or cries I hear it. She slept 4 hours in a row last night for the 1st time ever, I think her room is quieter and she doesn't hear me stirring either.

The other thing I swore I wouldn't do, but do, is use a dummy! When she is very unsettled, and I have fed her (often a proper feed then a top up or 2...) and changed her and rocked her etc, I have used the dummy through desperation. It works really well - except last night I had to replace it 3 times....aaaggghh! She spits it out when she almost asleep. I am worried about her getting dependant on it - but at this stage I am just doing what I can!!

Where are your babies sleeping? In your room or their own? Are you using a dummy?

Generally, I can see how she is developing every day - she has discovered her hands and is getting much more awake and interactive which is great...

Oh oh, she's crying...

:)

The Fox

20-07-2009, 06:16

thanks heaps for the nappy rash advice, the bepanthen just didnt cut it we switched to the castor oil and zinc cream and then finished with the powder and it has cleared up so much better so thanks for the input i saw those wind drops the other day at the chemist and was wondering about them - this might be a sill question but im a new mum and havent had much experience with babies, how do you know when they have wind, i normally know Oliver has to burp more after a feed if he has fed and emptied both breasts and then puts his hands to his mouth like his hungry but i wouldnt have a clue if he had wind he farts a lot but doesnt seem to have a problem getting it out and it doesnt seem to bother him
we spent a few hours yesterday with another LC we hired this one ourselves so she came to our home which was great because i got to learn in my own environment, we also bought a BF pillow wow its great, anyway its improving heaps now she taught us another technique that allows him to latch properly over 90% of the time, the other LC i saw got him to attach properly so i knew what it was supposed to feel like but i struggled to achieve that on my own, so anyway this new technique has been working for us so far also i thought i would mention she gave me these hydrogel discs by rite aid to use instead of lansinoh because it apparantly helps speed up the recovery ( i have badly damaged nipples) and i have to say they have worked great for me so far, after only one day i feel a difference so if anyone has sore nipples give these a go
dbdb im glad you got some sleep, Oliver managed a 5 hour block last night and it felt like i had slept for 10 hours it was pure heaven

kotakai

20-07-2009, 08:12

I'm so jealous of you lucky ladies getting some sleep :laughing:

Cruz still feeds every 4 hours, pretty much on the dot, so by the time he's fed, burped, nappy change & put back to bed, there's usually only about 3 hours till the next feed, so if I don't fall asleep, I don't get much!

Cassiii, I'm glad the nappy rash has cleared up & that's great that you've had some help on the BF & it's going better.

dbdb- Cruz is in a basinet in our room.

murrythecat- My DS was also prem & so was DS3, & I found he generally still had his growth spurts around the 'normal' times.

flis- I remember when I was BF DS3, it was amazing how different foods would make him react! It definately makes you aware of what you're eating :yes: Can't wait to see your photos, I'm sure they'll be gorgeous!

Hope everyone is going really well :wave:

Ashdan

20-07-2009, 12:02

Thanks girls for the advice....I've started drinking camomile tea before feeds which seems to be helping. I'm with Kotakai tho...Cooper is feeding between 3 and 4 hours and by the time I feed, burp and change him, its like its time to get up again!

FLIS - Heard Louka is gorgeous! Can't wait to see yours and my pics :)

CASSIII - Hope the BF is getting easier today. I found filling the Huggies Newborn nappies with water, then freezing and putting on my boobs really helped too!

Can't remember who mentioned it but if you are looking for something to help boost your milk supply, I took Fenugreek with Ashton and made batches of Housepoat (??) Breastfeeding cookies. I got the recipe off google and not only were they yummy but they worked amazingly

flis

20-07-2009, 13:10

i am the same as you girls ashdan and kotakai - Louka is up every four hours to feed so with a 1hr feeding turnaround (usually with a pooey nappy, changed, then another poo in seconds - are you guys the same?!?!) I have three hrs of sleep. She has just gotten into the habit of waking at 5.20am (after a 3.20am feed) with what i think is wind pains. I have been holding off feeding her by rocking patting etc as i really dont want to get into the habit of her being up so early - any suggestions to get her through. though i am not anti dummy i am thinking i would prefer to hold off for a bit considering this is really the only time she wakes heaps earlier than expected...

going to try to post some pics in here - any one know how??? EDITED - i worked it out - have uploaded some pics to my profile :-)

The Fox

20-07-2009, 13:28

flis i had a similar issue with ds waking up earlier then i liked but i was told to feed him whenever he is hungry especially at night because when they are asking for more frequent feeds they are increasing your supply - i stuck with it and within a night or 2 ds was back to his 3-4hr feeds in fact the other night he went 5hrs - otherwise you could try the dummy, i have heard they have worked wonders for people who have unsettled babies or when they just want to suck when they are not hungry

good luck - let us know if it improves

farmerswife

20-07-2009, 14:29

HI Everyone!!

I'm so excited to be here!! For awhile there i was sure i was going to be pregnant for the rest of my life!

Jasper is doing well so far.

We left hospital 2 days after he was born as i was feeling like i didn't really need to be there! I saw the middy twice on my second day when she came to check my BP etc. and that was it.

So we are home and getting somewhere near settled. I still feel a bit out of it at times but apparently that is normal after such a fast delivery. They warned me to expect to feel a bit jet-lagged for a week or so till my body catches up to what happened.

Jaspers feeding isall over theplace. As soon as i start to see a pattern or routine it dissapears real quick. At the moment he seems to feed every three hours or so with the occasional 2 hourly feed if he didn't sleep much after the last one. Am hoping it is just as my milk settles and then he will space them out a little more!

Last night was a bit hellish. By the time i fed, burped and changed and re-settled i got a bit over an hour before he was awake again.

He is spitting up a bit after every feed but so far no screaming. Since both the boys were on Zantac by 4 weeks i am probably over monitoring to check for reflux!!

I'm sure i'll be back with questions soon. I seem to have forgotten more than i remember in the last 2 years and now have no idea what Jasper is meant to be doing!!

Ashdan

20-07-2009, 20:04

Hey,

Farmers - Its my second time around too but I feel like it's my first again! I guess every bub is different either that or I really do have baby brain!

Flis - Not sure about the early waking...I've just been feeding whenever he wants it.

Cooper has been permanately attached to my chest today snacking. Tried to hold him out for a bigger feed and wake him up to drink properly but got absolutely no where.

He also hates his bed and we are putting him to sleep on his side with a rolled spew rag (clean :p) behind him! He is sleeping so soundly next to me in my bed as DF is on the couch watching the Ashes! Not a good habit, but as soon as I put him down he screams. Any ideas girls....

The Fox

21-07-2009, 12:17

ashdan im glad im not the only one, yesterday Oliver was glued to my chest wanting to feed literally half an hour after he ate, i ended using a dummy at around 6pm to hold him off for a longer feed i figured i needed some time to produce more milk because the little gutso wouldnt give me a chance to make enough to fill him, anyway it worked really well and he fed at 9 and then again at 1am then again at 6am

i really need some advice -
oliver usually spits up after a feed which is normal, but today and yesterday he has been unsettled after a feed and cries and acts like he is still hungry, if i burp him he will be ok for 10 mins to 1hour but then he will get unsettled - its easy to confuse this with hunger but im 90% sure he is in pain, before about 1hr after his feed he woke up, cried and threw up all over me and it was quite alot, not a whole feed but more then what he usually does should i be worried - iim not sure what to do, is this normal and can i do anything to make him feel better?

kotakai

21-07-2009, 14:01

Cassiiii- Have you eaten anything different? Something might be giving him a little belly ache. Also, the 1st bit of milk they get is really lactosey (:laughing:, I know it's not a real word, but YKWIM), so maybe before a feed, express a bit of that out, so when he drinks he's getting to the fatty hind milk which is what you want. For this same reason, you need to try & make sure he completely empties 1 side before offering the other.

flis

21-07-2009, 15:58

hey girls

cassiii - louka gets unsettled a bit too but doesnt chuck though - i too am a little unsure about what to do - i agree she doesnt seem hungry but just a bit upset and uncomfy - grunting a bit too. have just emailed my friend who went to a sleep clinic and had a LC out - she recommended giving a tummy rub and putting on side, patting then puttin gback on back. am going to try this tonight.

also, i have been offering one boob only per feed (2-3 tries on that boob per feed). she said the LC said the ducts drain within 10-15 mins and the rest is just comfort - which makes sense as she gets off for the first time about that time so i am going to try her recommendation of giving her both sides for 10-15 mins per feed and seeing how she goes with that. just thought some of you guys may have been interested in this - will let you know how i go... (think most of you in here except maybe cassiii and me are second or third timers???)

Oh and for the record, my right boob is now my good boob and my left one has sores on it and over fills! bet by the end of the week they will swap again!

Ashdan - Rach is killing me by not putting pics up yet! even my hubby is hanging for them! lol

chat soon girls Flis xxx

Ashdan

21-07-2009, 17:22

Flis - DF thinks I am stalking website :laughing: The cupcakes are cute...but not as cute as our bubs.

With the BF, when I saw a LC with Ashton she said not to time how long bubs was on each side for...rather feel your boobs. Obviously they are hard when they are full and soft when they are empty and to go by this in regards to knowing when to offer the other side.

staceylee

24-07-2009, 15:11

Hi ladies!!

I thought I would finally get on this thread and see how your all going.

Harper is now 12days old and gorgeous but then the sun goes down and things change :laughing:

She feeds every 3-5hours during the day but then from 10pm till around 3.30-4am she just wont settle!! She just feeds and feeds for almost all of that time. I don't know what to do!!

My left nipple is really badly cracked and the right one isn't that bad. When the middie came to visit she checked Harpers attachment and said she is attaching like she is meant to but the cracks are from her pulling back when the let down happens as I have sooo much milk! She gets covered in it the poor thing!! So I have been feeding from the right and expressing from the left after each feed, but now after the CYH visit the lady said I have that much milk that I need to ease up on the expressing and try getting her on the really cracked nipple after she gets rid of her massive hunger on the right side. Arrgh its soo confusing!!

But on a good note she has put all of her birth weight back on and a little bit extra!

Farmerswife - I had the same dr as you coz mine went on holidays the week I was due. He did come in and say something about the lady that cancelled her induction and I thought of you straight away coz it was monday arvo. Also I think you may have met my mum as she walked into the wrong room on wednesday morning (i think) :laughing:

flis

24-07-2009, 18:14

Stacey - hope your nipple gets better - i have had two sores on my leftie for the past few days and have been hand expressing a bit before Louka latches to ease the pain a bit. interesting re letdown - all my friends have let down when their bubs attach but i seem to let down all the time - every so often i feel the tingle etc - cant not wear breast pads atm...

Dan - Cooper is sooooo cute - love the pics Rach took - love his little smile :-)

Been quiet in here - hope everyone is good

AFM - Louka had a crazy day yesterday - think she may have had a growth spurt - didnt sleep properly all day and just fed and fed and fed all night! She was so sleepy today - catching up on missed sleep i guess! and she really is filling out her bonds 000 suits well - will be interesting to see what she weighs at clinic this week. we keep getting comments about how she doesnt look quite like a newborn. she is so chubby - reminds me of a cabbage patch doll lol

have a great weekend girls - am off to a baby shower tomorrow - my first outing without Miss L - daddy is looking forward to daddy daughter time but I will be sad to leave her i think

xxx

Ashdan

24-07-2009, 18:58

Hey there everyone!

Hope everyone and our bubs are doing well.

Stacey - I have a crazy milk supply too. Sometimes poor Cooper sounds like he is choking, comes off and cops a spray all over his face! He is only taking one side at each feed tho but is obviously getting enough. He has put on 300g in a week.

Flis - The photos are cute. Took him in the bonds outfit and was going to change him but Rachel started snapping! The blue on blue looks cute tho. Can't wait to get the rest of the pics now. She took what from standing behind her look like beautiful ones of Cooper and Ashton that I am dying to see. Hope Louka had a better day today. Cooper has not slept properly from 10pm last night! Hoping he makes up for it tonight. :fingerscrossed:

babeone

25-07-2009, 11:06

hi ladies- i am technically a june baby but seeing as i was due in july i thought it would be ok to post in this section!!

Tilly is now 4 weeks old and doing well- feeding every 3-5 hours and is also a very noisy sleeper!! I have been worried s she will sleep soundly when in my arms but grunts and groans when she is in her bassinet. I have been givin her brauers colic aid as thought she maye had a stomach ache but apart from making it easier to burp her she is still sleeping noisily!

How do you know bubs has reflux or silent reflux?? Im not sure what this is.... if someone could explain that would be great.

Has anyone elses bubs got snuffly noses?? Tilly has had one for about a week now- been using the saline spray but it seems like it would be sooo annoying for her.

As for BF she usually feeds off both breasts and will completely darin both usually- i dont think i have as much milk as some of you as mine never get rock hard, they feel slightly firmer when she is due s feed but not really raelly full so dont know how ill go when she has a growth spurt. I do know she is getting enough as she had put on her birth weigth plus anotyher 180g at 10days and i can see her double chin developing :laughing: plus she also pulls off at the start off a feed becaise the flow is too much for her- maybe she is just greedy who knows??

Cassii i also wake her after one breast and change her and then she is ready for the other- i have found this also makes her sleep longer between feeds- the other night she went nearly 7 hours between a feed!!! I was very happy and felt like i slept a complete nights sleep- was wondeful- hasnt happened again as yet but there is hope.

ANyway better go as she is starting to stir- time for a feed!!

staceylee

25-07-2009, 12:44

Hello everyone!!!!

How are you all and your beautiful bubs? We had a much better night last night. Harper went 4hrs between feeds :smiliedance: but we will see what tonight brings.

The feeding is getting better. The CYH nurse said to not let her sleep for longer then 4hrs between feeds during the day so she sleeps better at night as she likes to stay awake after her 2oclock feed and then wants to feed every half hour after that till her next big feed around 4-6am. She is now taking a dummy sometimes between feeds just for comfort as she is a bit of a comfort sucker.

My mum is going back to tassie on tuesday and im a little worried how i will go without her. I havent really been by myself a whole lot with her and im worried i wont cope when she has a bad day but i guess i just have to take it one day and night at a time.

Sassy75

25-07-2009, 13:19

Hi ladies...glad i found where you are all hanging out once bubs arrive.

Thought I would be joining you much sooner (I am now 8 days over) and going absolutely bonkers!! It is really hard to keep your spirits up as each day passes. I am being induced on the 31st if he does not come before then.

Anyway, just wanted to say hello & have bookmarked the page as hopefully will be joining you soon :fingerscrossed:

kotakai

25-07-2009, 13:24

Cruz was 2 months yesterday & had his needles on Thursday. He did pretty well. Screamed when they went in, but was then fine. He is now a big chunker & weighs 4.4kgs :smiliedance: (up from 2.1kgs at birth)

hi ladies- i am technically a june baby but seeing as i was due in july i thought it would be ok to post in this section!!

How do you know bubs has reflux or silent reflux?? Im not sure what this is.... if someone could explain that would be great.

:laughing: we had so many that just couldn't wait till July, didn't we.

Both Chais & Cruz have had reflux, as well as silent reflux. They are unsettled, in pain & don't always feed well as it hurts. When he vomits, it's burning hot. Cruz doesn't always vomit, but I can also hear & feel it coming up & down. He's on Losec now & still having probs. It's just trial & error till we get the correct dose. A couple of other things you can do is to keep them upright as much as you can after a feed & also put their mattress on an angle.

He is also a noisy sleeper, escpecially at night. My mum calls him Mr Snuffleupagus :laughing: He also cold a cold about 4 weeks ago & we just can't get rid of it.

KiahsMum

26-07-2009, 10:40

Hi Ladies!

So glad I found this, sounds like a lot of us are having the same issues with feeding, sleep, nipples etc.

With unsettles babies the problem is that some hungry signs are the same as windy signs are the same as reflux signs. Kiah was reflux, Sarah has wind pain and I don't know how many times I have started to panic that she was showing reflux issues only to find out from the LC that things like sucking on their hands and rooting at your shoulder can be wind. If bubs is fighting you to be attached there is a good chance they have wind pain. I swap holds with Sarah between cradle and football and let her attach whichever way she is comfortable with and this has made things easier. The other big difference with reflux and wind is Kiah was well and truly screaming, Sarah just cries. You can hear the severe pain in a reflux baby's cry :(

Staceylee - With the expressing, if you express to empty your body thinks bub is drinking all your milk and will replace it with the same amount. I was told in hospital to express to comfort when engorged. Also I express about 25ml off each breast before I get Sarah up for a feed so I am less engorged and the milk isn't coming out under as much pressure. When your breasts are full it is kind of like a fire hose, by expressing it reduces it to the garden variety lol. Sarah then finds it easier to attach and the milk isn't coming out as fast. Can be hard when you get lots of differing info.

Still finding my way through breastfeeding. Expressed for Kiah but am still BF with Sarah which is lovely. Having to learn a lot and have a lot of respect for women who battle through the BF issues, also have a lot of respect for those who realise it isn't for them and bottlefeed so as to have a happy mum and bub. Hmm fence sitting I guess but I strongly believe in doing whatever you need to in order to get through, that includes bottlefeeding, dummies etc. It is hard enough without beating ourselves up over what we are using to get through.

Just wondering for anyone giving expressed breast milk which bottles you are using. We tried with medela but she won't take them. Were hoping Dad could do a feed each night so I can get some more sleep as Sarah is very unsettled between 11pm and 4-5am so if I can skip the 11pm feed I can get some sleep and then pick her up. LC said Avent are too heavy/big (Sarah is tiny) but then we used them with Kiah and I don't remember her having a problem. Anyway all advice appreciated!!

luvmyboyz

26-07-2009, 11:16

Hi everyone, Kaylees 5wks tomorrow omg wheres that time gone.. Shes now just over 7lb which is a great weight gain from her teeny 5lb 8oz at birth. She seems so big to us now tho shes still so tiny and still doesnt fit into 0000's yet.

Her silent reflux is getting worse each day so its looking like we're going to have to put her medication poor chicken, its awful seeing them in so much pain.

Kotakai we found Losec to be useless with Rylan and the pead ended up putting him onto Nexium which eventually made a huge diff and its also a lot easier to get them to take.

For those expressing to eleviate the pressure just remember the more you express the more milk you make so you're not really resolving the issues. Only take a teeny bit off if you have to, tho it doesn eventually settle down and as they get bigger they handle it all better.

Other than that we're very sleep deprived which isnt easy when theres 4 other kids to run around after...

xx

Ashdan

26-07-2009, 12:00

staceylee

26-07-2009, 12:52

Is anyone else getting sick of the question 'are you feeding her?' as if whether I am breast or FF my baby is any of their business! I have just started saying 'No im not feeding her at all' and change the subject.

I also got 'so you had it easy then didnt you' coz I had a csect but they fail to understand that I was in labour all sunday with 15hrs of active labour after that and i had no choice as she wasnt going to come out on her own!!

Ok enough of the rant. Harper slept for 6hrs last night!! Bet that wont happen tonight!!

cmd'smum

26-07-2009, 13:29

just quickly, Ash try feeding C sitting/leaning back, it slows your let down and will make him drink slower and gulp less! My let down is very fast so I've started to feed L this way!

gotta run, bbl for more! xx

farmerswife

26-07-2009, 15:58

Hi everyone!!

As usual i'm lousy at personals but will comment on things ive read!!

FAST FLOW is always a prob for me at first, i feed on the couch or in bed where i can stack the pillows and lean back. Its very comfy and slows down the flow a bit.

BOTTLES Ive always used avent as they fit my pump and it was easier!! Never had a problem with DS1 or DS2 but havn't tried with Jasper yet. I usually wait till there a few weeks old before i express some feeds for DH to give. This is only because i have so much milk and don't want to increase my supply anymore.

FEEDING TIMES Jasper is all over the place but its always more than 2 hours and the longest break he has is 6 hours which he has kindly been doing between about 11pm and 5am lately!! Asa result i am actually feeling a little more human lately!

Jasper also has a dummy now :o He spits up that much and i find if i can get him to suck on it for a while just after each feed he vomits less. DS1&2 both had them eventually but not this early.

Staceylee - I did see your mum!! Is it true they made you move rooms for us? If so i'm really sorry!!
Doc sounded very relieved when i cancelled my induction for Monday since he had very little sleep. Dont feel bad though he confessed on Tuesday that he went home after checking you and got caught up watching the ashes and hadn't been in bed long when they called him back for you! So it was really his own fault!
I heard Harper a few times one night. Sounded like the bubs were syncronizing their feeds that night!
I knew another lady in there Tuesday night and she said she heard all the yelling when panic stations hit in my labor, I was so embarresed!

I also hear you about the NOSY PEOPLE thing. One of my pet hates is people who don't even know my name thinking it's okay to ask me what im doing with my boobs!! Not only is it none of their business but its RUDE!!

Okay thats it for mE. DH has taken DS1&2 out for awhile and i should at last make it look like i tried to do some housework while they were gone. Especially since Jasper has slept the whole time so far!!!

staceylee

26-07-2009, 17:09

Farmerswife - No they didnt make us we were down in the old end to start then they just put us in 18 the next day so all good :D My mum was so embarrassed and she says sorry :laughing: Made me laugh when she came in and told me!!
I was reading your birth story and when I read the bit about you yelling I was like 'I knew I heard someone yell that out!' to DH coz I thought I just dreamt it! Yay Im not crazy yet!!!

I hope Harper didnt wake Jasper up too much during your stay.

flis

27-07-2009, 08:51

Hi Girls

So excited - last night L rearranged her night feeds and instead of sleeping her long stretch from 6/7-11 she slept from 9-1 and i went to bed at the same time so got 4 hrs uninterrupted sleep - yay! and bc she slept later, she woke for her second feed later and missed her 5.20am wakeup- slept till 8!! so exciting for us! i feel human today.

AshDan - re white tongue - Louka has a white tongue and the health nurse said it was normal - some bubs just have milky residue on their tongues. hope Cooper's is just that. Also re wind - i have been lying L down for a quick snooze and change before burping her and the wind seems to pop out much easier - like it has floated to the surface while she has been lying down... am sure you have tried everything but thought i would mention just in case (my flow doesnt seem as fast as yours- i get a drip as soon as my top is off not a spray). :-)

I have been having trouble with my left boob - had a few sores on it but thought they had gone but was still experiencing pain even when she was latching properly - i realised last night there was a white pimple on the outside of the areola and it was causing my pain. used a bit of magic lotion (aka breast milk) and pimple and pain all gone - thank goodness!

Farmers - totally hear you on being embarrassed about screaming - i screamed so much my throat was sore and was just dying from embarrassment at my screams!

Hoping you all had a good night

dbdb

27-07-2009, 17:20

Hi ladies!

Sounds like a few of our bubs are starting to become a bit more compliant with sleep :)

Isobel hit 6 weeks and had one awful night where I was up from 3.30 til 5.30 with her fussing and crying and continually feeding. then the next night she slept 4 hours, the next 4.5 hours, and last night almost 6!! She fed at 8pm then fell asleep until 2am (then slept 2.45 - 6am, yay!). I had been worried about whether to wake her for a 10pm feed but went to sleep at 9.30 instead, and I woke before her (well, my boobs did!) and waited for her to stir. I am hoping that this continues - amazing what a stint of 4 hours or more of sleep will do when you are used to 2.5 hours max!

We are getting out and about more - mothers group and lunch today, and going to brave the 'babes in arms' movie tomorrow.

I have also found the Pigeon peristaltic teats to be the best - I fitted it on my avent bottles (from the pump) as the avent seemed to pour really quickly into her mouth and she spilled everywhere. DH gives her a bottle on a sat morning when I have a sleep in (and this weekend managed to get out to the hairdresser) - but again, I wake about he same time anyway as I have to express!

I am continually amazed at how quickly she grows and develops and have alrady forgotten the misery of those first few weeks!

:)

The Fox

28-07-2009, 10:41

Hey girls...

KiahsMum - Ater seeing the LC with Ashton she recommended the narrow neck Pigeon bottles with the peristatic teet. DS hated the avent as I think they were wide for him. I spent so much money trying him on different bottles but that one seemed to do the trick. Went to get some this time tho and found out they aren't BPA free tho...pigeon do make them but the bottle is glass. Apparently the teet will fit in most narrow neck bottles. Hope that helps!

This may be to much TMI - but I think I have thrush on my nipples. Might have something to do with the state they were in a few days after Cooper was born and I have today noticed a thichish white layer right up the back of his tongue. I can't see any on his cheeks or anywhere else. Will have to do some googling as I have no idea how to treat it.

DF and I were talking last night and I'm going to organise for the LC to come over for this bubs too. I think he is latching fine but hoping she can help with some ideas on feeding so he doesn't get so much wind and just to make sure I'm doing it right. Its hard as he comes off to be burped which takes forever, then is so tired he falls asleep. I try waking him with no avail but then he wants to feed again about an hour later. Its just a vicious circle at the moment!

i was giving antibiotics during labour because i had a fever and they think this caused me to get thrush in my nipples, Oliver didnt get it in his mouth though because we treated it early, basically if he has thrush in his mouth the thickish white layer wont come of if you wipe it, Oliver throws up alot and he always has some left in his mouth or on his tongue but you can easily wipe it off. They diagnosed me with nipple thrush because of the extreme pain i had when expressing milk(colustrum) and breastfeeding, the pain was 1000000x worse then any contraction i had during labour, it was the worst it felt like glass shooting through my boobs and my nipples felt like someone was holding a flame against them everytime i breastfed,
anyway to treat it we used daktarin, i had to put it in his mouth after each feed and i also had to put it on my nipples after each feed - hope this helps
AFM, we had an appointment yesterday at the MCHN clinic and they think Oliver has reflux, he hasnt put on enough weight and screams in absolute agony after a big feed, then throws it all back up again, we have an appointment on thursday with the doctor so hopefully we can ease the pain for him
Becasue he isnt putting on enough weight she was suggesting that we might have to supplement with formula, which sucks just when breastfeeding is becoming manageable this happens, on a good note Oliver has been a dream today, i have been waking him every 3 hours to feed and he has been sleeping in between on his own in his basinette, i think the more frequent feeds are helping his pain because normally he wont sleep during the day unless its on me, so im pretty happy he let me put him down, i actually managed to clean the floors and the kitchen, go me!
Well i hope your all well and enjoying your babies, i cant wait to have the rest of the july group join us

SammiAnn

28-07-2009, 12:46

Afternoon girls :wave:,

Have just caught up on all of your bubba news but have run outta time to comment to you all :crying: so just a quick note to let you know what we've been up to.

DH and I have had viral tonsilitus with rashes. I had a scan on Friday to check on my uterus, I'm still bleeding and GP is a little concerned, we're giving it another week before making a decision. I took Alex as he has been getting increasingly 'snuffly'. GP has sent a referral for Alex to an ENT specialist as he has very narrow nasal passages. I'm putting saline drops down his nose and using the aspirator to suck him out so he can feed properly. We're making the four and a half hour drive Thursday for his 11am appointment.

I was feeling ok about it as he's not stopping breathing or anything but the ENT guys office rang to comfirm the appointment today and apparently they have a space booked for him at the hospital for possible surgery after his appointment :eek:. Freaked me out about the possibility of him having to be admitted to hospital and be put under to have surgery. I'm trying to be calm and think that the GP and ENT guy are just being cautious and because we have to travel they are covering all bases.

Anyway, my little man is growing well and remarkably settled considering his little nose. He has started to smile and is itching to begin 'cooing'. I can't believe how in love with him I am :bee:.

I really hope all of your feeding and sleeping woes settle girls. Take care of yourselves too don't forget :hugs:.

Sam :sunshine:

Lukie

28-07-2009, 16:45

hi girls,
excuse the lack of caps and any typos- am typing one handed while bridgette sleeps in my other arm.
just wanted to pop in and see whats happening with all you new mummies- ive only read this one page but have already gleaned some valuable info:
i wonder too about the way i'm feeding and wind- i'm still using nipple shield- bf actually enjoyable now my nipples have healed. middie watched me attach and says its correct but feeding her on the breast is painful for even a few mins and when we took her off my nipple was pinched and mis-shapen already. middie says its the way shes sucking and keep going with the shield seeing as its working and no damage being done, and try her again in a few weeks time, her suck may have improved. i also find she takes a while to burp, sometimes i change her nappy and after i lift her off the change table she does a big burp, like flis says, its as if lying down helps it to come up?

the times she can't rbing up a burp she has a more unsettled sleep- like last night. i ended up sleeping with her, this seems to calm her, and we both get good uninterrupted sleep, except i get a little cold seeing as i can't put the covers all the way up, and i miss dh in bed, cos he takes the couch when this happens.

sorry if this has been mentioned already- but has anyone had mastitis? i have noticed two small pinkish marks on my left breast and a pea sized lump beaneath each of them. its not painful to feed, and i am making sure she drains that breast well, just in case it is mastitis. anything else i should know or do? does it sound like mastits? no other symptoms.

sammi- how long have you been bleeding?
I've still got red blood after 2 weeks. is this normal? anyone else in this boat?

i better go girls. must attempt to put bridgette down and hope she doesn't wake, so i can get dinner sorted. not much in the firdge or pantry so i'm making omellete for dinner! :chef:

KiahsMum

28-07-2009, 17:13

Lukie - It sounds like how my mastitis started. If you have full on mastitis you will know it, feel like you get hit by a truck, you are hot to the touch with a fever but shivering your butt off. I literally felt fine one minute and sick as hell 5 mins later, scared mum and DH (this was with DD1) as I went white as a sheet. At the moment you could have a blockage. Best thing to do on top of bub emptying the breast is in the shower put the shower head on the area where the lumps are and massage the breast to help drain it. I also used to take a manual pump in the shower and once massage was done would express off a little. If you start to feel unwell call your doc ASAP so they can get you on medication and have a look as if mastitis gets really bad it can lead to needing surgery (I was 24 hours away from needing to be admitted, spent most of that 24 hours massaging and showering to get rid of the blockage). Hope this helps and it all settles down for you. I note I still have the spot on my breast where the red mark showed up on my breast so they could stay there even if you are draining fine.

Sammi - Hope they are just being overly cautious and all is well with your little man :0 Let us know how you go! Sarah has been congested since birth pretty much and been sneezing but it doesn't affect her and she feeds fine unless both nasal passages are blocked at the same time.

Cassiii - Its good they are looking into the reflux early, DD1 wasn't picked up until 7 weeks. I know how it is when you can't put bubs down, DD was the same. A sling is fantastic for reflux bubs, you can wear them, they sleep as if on you and you have both arms to get things done, saved me with DD1 when she would have 9-12 hours screaming sessions due to the reflux. When you see the doctor make it clear you would really like to keep breastfeeding and avoid too much/any formula, there are thickeners that can be given to reflux bubs, part of what happens though can depend on whether there is an underlying issue causing the reflux, for DD1 it was cows milk protein intolerance so had to give up all dairy in my diet, in the end she did go on special formula as there was concern I was not getting enough calcium. Hope they get it sorted out quickly for you and Oliver finds life a lot easier :)

Ashdan - As said above you need to check whether the white stuff comes off, if it does it is just milk residue, if not could be thrush. We were put on nystatin for Sarah, have to use a finger to apply it in her mouth and a myconizole (sp) cream for my nipples. You can buy them over the counter at the chemist but I took Sarah to the GP to get it checked first though I don't think the GP we saw had much of an idea as he didn't really check it properly, ah I miss my old GP, as soon as I can drive we are going back to them.

mammabear 2 4

28-07-2009, 18:16

AFM, we had an appointment yesterday at the MCHN clinic and they think Oliver has reflux, he hasnt put on enough weight and screams in absolute agony after a big feed, then throws it all back up again, we have an appointment on thursday with the doctor so hopefully we can ease the pain for him Becasue he isnt putting on enough weight she was suggesting that we might have to supplement with formula, which sucks just when breastfeeding is becoming manageable this happens, on a good note Oliver has been a dream today, i have been waking him every 3 hours to feed and he has been sleeping in between on his own in his basinette, i think the more frequent feeds are helping his pain because normally he wont sleep during the day unless its on me, so im pretty happy he let me put him down, i actually managed to clean the floors and the kitchen, go me!
Well i hope your all well and enjoying your babies, i cant wait to have the rest of the july group join us

I guess for me i was unlucky to already had a baby who was refluxy...my 3rd daughter had silent reflux quite bad...and when Blake displayed the similar pain and discomfort i went straight to my doctor....after every feed Blake would pull a face and scream for the next 15mins....he doesnt vomit his milk but his breath just smells real acid like....and hes now on Zantac....but i didnt give up breast feeding just had to give him the medication 2x a day...giving it to him at the right time was the tricky bit....but Blake still has a formula top up every night and with refluxy babies what you are discribing is very normal....they like to sleep upright....if you have any support pillows place them under the mattress of the bassinette....any angle you can give him will help with his reflux...and with time and medication Oliver will gain weight and will settle into a routine...it took Blake until 4 weeks to start gaining good weight...but you have got onto it early...i hope this helps...

AFM: Blake is 6 weeks today...weighing exactly 4kg...54cm long and 37cm hc...my local nurse said he is filling out nicely...he actually has a little butt now lol He is still having formula topups at the 2am feed but he settles back to sleep and wakes at 6am so im not complaining at all....his silent reflux is alot better and he is now smiling and cooeing heaps....

For everyone else i hope things are doing well with all the babies and sending everyone zzzzzzz fairies......:fingerscrossed:

KiahsMum

28-07-2009, 18:55

Ashdan

28-07-2009, 19:28

Hey girls....

Thanks so much for all your advice. I'm trying the laying back to feed (Wow..that's a bit of a mission!) but it seems to help.

I've taken the Diflucan, rinsing my boobs with vinegar andsmothering myself with Daktarin after feeding and the dreaded thrush seems to be cleaing up.

I have an appointment at the child health clinic tomorrow so will get that checked and can't wait to see how much weight Cooper has put on. His thighs are getting rolls and his cheeks are so chubby :yes:

Cassiii - Hope Oliver gets some relief soon...poor little man

Lukie - Thankfully never had mastitis but Kiah's advice is spot on!

Well better be off for some sleep....we have to meet the builder at the house (yes its not just a block of land...we have a slab, frame and hopefully a roof!) at 8am. Need to drop DS1 off at my mums so its going to be an early morning. I mentioned to DF the time it is taking us to get out of the house at the moment, I'll have to be up at 1am!

Fingers crossed for a good nights sleep for us all

dbdb

29-07-2009, 08:11

Hi girls...

I am celebrating today as Isobel slept for 6 hours last night!! She had been feeding all evening, every hour or two and took a while to settle last night but fell asleep at 10.30 (after another feed) and didn't wake til 4.30! Feed/nappy/back asleep by 5am, then up at 6.30 - and still sleeping after being back in bed at 7am!

What a difference it makes - I got up at 7 and have managed to shower/get brekkie/get prepared for a few errands and am actually waiting for her to wake up so we can get going. Amazing what difference a few days makes...

Sorry to hear about the reflux problems. Isobel always seems very uncomfortable after a feed, writhes and cries, then often makes bottom noises! It doesn't last long though. It must be very difficult to hear your little ones in pain.

I agree that slings are great - when she is unsettled in the early evenings, I put her in that or the baby bjorn and yesterday I made dinner and did some washing etc with her strapped on like a little koala!

I worry about thrush - some days it feels like my top/bra is damp the whole day and night. I wear breast pads too but they are often damp, especially at night and my boobs don't get much 'airing'! I must get some reusable/washable pads as I am spending a small fortune on disposables...

I remember only a few weeks ago feeling exhausted and drained and people telling me that it gets easier - I finally feel that the worse is over (though I know there will still be lots of difficult nights) and that Izzy and I know each other well now which just makes life so much easier. So to those of you in the early stages - hang in there!

Hope you are all getting some rest :)

Preshy2008

29-07-2009, 08:26

Here you all are!!! I found you!!!

Its good to see so many of you are doing so well!

Liam is doing well, we are trying a four hourly routine, it works sometimes and then other times he just wants to feed early.. I believe they have a growth spurt at three weeks and may want to feed a little more, so Im just going with that theory.

dbdb - its amazing how much a tiny bit extra sleep makes, we get a good five hours every second night or so (3 hours sleep for me) and it makes the world of difference. Hoepfully its a sign that the worst is over and they are beginning to get into a night sleeping routine..

Sam - I still get the occasional rush of red blood, but not all day. Liam is three weeks old now. Other than that it can be brown or creamy/white.. sorry TMI. I hope everything is okay, the GP will get to the bottom of it.

Im not sure whose bubba is getting their nose checked (sorry), but Liam is rather snuffly too.. the Maternal and Child health nurse showed me how to use a tissue to get it out, but it doesnt work for me.. when she did it, she made him cry and he ws in pain.. I have an aspirator, but that is too big for his nostral.. he sneezed the other day and passed a man snot. No jokes, it was HUGE. I wanted to take a picture incase nobody believed me, he seems to be a bit better since, Ive read they can get really mucasy from milk. Regardless, Im sure your litte one is in the best hands, its hard to see them struggle to eat cos thier little noses are blocked..

AFM - I had a terrible hemoroid (sp) wafter the birth, which has gone back inside, and two stitches.. the stitches appear to have dissolved and Im feeling much more comfy in the vaginal area, but everytime I pass a number 2, I am in excruciating pain and now there is blood passing too... the hemoroid is not out, but the area is so sore.. any suggestions? I have been using a stool softener, but even if its runny it hurts so much. Does anyone have any cures for sore butts? Im too scared to go to the toilet again.

Also girls, I have been useing a book called 'baby love' its such a helpful tool, everytime I have had a question I have been referring to it, and it always has a helpful suggestion. Ive also been reccomended 'save our sleep' by Tizzie Hall - has anyone read or using this? The routines sound great, but are very regimental, I just wanted to get some BubHub advice from anyone who has used a routine and what the outcome was...

Have to run, Liam is calling... take care,

Preshy xxx

sandy119120

29-07-2009, 12:13

Hi everyone:)

I just come to say hello i will be join this threat, Mia Isabella is doing great sleeps most of the night and the day. She seems to be very happy that way. No porblem at all BF im soo happy i had hard time with sore nipples with my two boys so im happy at the moment.

Ill be back to try to catch up

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DS1 6yo My boys:detective:
DS2 2yo
DD 21/07/09 My princess:bee:
2 angels @ 8 weeks

Lukie

29-07-2009, 13:09

well, as you can tell, i am typing one handed again while brdigette sleeps on me. this seems to be happenning once or twice in 24 hrs where she falls asleep, i put her down, then 10-15mins later she is up, alert and crying! don't know why she is fine to sleep other times in her cradle, but wakes up crying (and i mean crying not just grizzling, i wait til i know she is really awake before i go to her and try to settle with patting, stroking, before finally picking her up). i managed to soother her and left her awake in her cradle, just looking around, hoping she'd put herself to sleep. 20mins later, she was still the same, awake, but looking very very tired... i picked her up a few mins later once she satrted crying again, put her over my shoulder and walked around with her a bit. she fell asleep this way and i am afraid to put her down again. she should be up for a feed soon-ish so i'll just keep her on me til then.

sandy- congrats! beautiful names!

preshy- i have baby love too- great great book! use it everyday just about!

dbdb- yay for sleep! bridgette was giving us one 6 hrs sleep for the first 7or8 days, but no more. guess it evens out though as she is not up as frequently in the night to feed. the past few night has been 10pm, 2am and 6am. how old is isobel now? maybe bridgette will go back to longer sleep soon. i have a bubba moe sling- tried b in it once but she cried. hoping she will take to it. what kind do you have?

ashdan- yay for your house getting underway! how exciting! community nurse visited us today- b is now 3.78kg (birrth weight 3.5) and she is 2 wks old. very happy with that. let us know how cooper goes...

kiahs mum- i have been putting shower head on breast and massaging and massaging during feed too. today red marks gone. i showed community nurse and explained and she said sounds like i have nipped it in the bud, esp. as i have no other symptoms and lump gone too. thank god i have averted another breast issue!

afm- tried b without the shield today, she couldn't grab onto my breast, so the shield stays awhile longer or maybe indefinitely. i dont mind as long as she is feeding and i hsve lots of milk. feeling a bit frustrated and sleep deprived, missing dh in bed, and not able to do much in the afternoon as b is asleep on me. its a so-so day i guess, could be worse- it has been worse. dbdb- can't wait to look back in afew weeks and say it is easier now and look how far we've come. at this stage dh and i think we will not have any more kidlets. much as we love her, and we do love her a whole lot, can't imagine going through this again, especially with a toddler to take care of as well, and we are really missing each other. anyone else feel this way? i know i'm supposed to be wrapped in bridgette and not having anything left over for dh, but i miss him...

kotakai

29-07-2009, 13:36

Glad to hear everyone is going so well.

Cruz is now 9 weeks old & weighs a whopping 4.5kgs!!!!!! He has thrush at the moment, so we're using Nilstat. His reflux is also not under control. We're back at the paed on Friday, so I'm hoping now he's put on more weight we can up his Losec dose, as it's just not working.

for DD1 it was cows milk protein intolerance so had to give up all dairy in my diet, in the end she did go on special formula as there was concern I was not getting enough calcium.

You're so lucky you were still able to feed for a while, I couldn't. Even with me changing my diet it didn't help. I agree too, that the quicker you can sort things out, the better. With Chais it wasn't until around 3 months, we worked out it was CMPI & relfux, whereas, since I knew what I was looking for, we picked it up with Cruz around 6 weeks. Chais doesn't have bottles anymore (and no more dummy either :smiliedance::smiliedance:) since about 2 weeks ago, but up until then was still on Elecare. Cruz is also on it.

I am celebrating today as Isobel slept for 6 hours last night!!

Woohoo!!!! Well done :smiliedance: We're still feeding every 4 hours, so no big sleeps for me yet.

Ive also been reccomended 'save our sleep' by Tizzie Hall - has anyone read or using this?

I haven't read this one, but can highly recommend the Baby Whisperer books. After making lots of mistakes with my 1st 2 that I didn't want to repeat, the best thing I did before Chais was born was to read these books.

dbdb

29-07-2009, 14:08

Great to see a few more people here! I promised myself that after I had the baby I would stop being addicted to bubhub - but still here! lol

Preshy - Isobel also had a growth spurt about 3 weeks, then at 4 and a half! i think that's what it was - feeding all the time, one night every 2 hours - but they only lasted a day or 2 then she seemed to sleep longer after them. With 4 hourly feeding, I find that Isobel rarely goes more than 3 or 4 hours during the day, and sometimes 2 hourly in the evening - I am allowing her to feed as much as she wants in the day in the hope she sleeps better at night!

I also use Baby Love - nice and moderate. I haven't seen the Hall book but I stay away from 'routine' books as I don't agree with them on principal - but I have friends who swear by them! (Gina Ford is another one)

Lukie - I know the one handed typing - I try to feed sometimes and type! Isobel is almost 7 weeks now (and weighs the same as your 2 week old!) so a good month or so older. For the past week or so, I have been amazed at how much she has changed. When she was newborn, like you, I missed DH and TBH felt overwhelmed by it all and just exhausted. When she was about 5 weeks, I moved her to her own room (which I had not planned on doing til 6 months) so that DH could come back into our bed (he was in the spare room so he could sleep for work) and it has worked really well for us. I get up when she wakes and feed/settle her in her own room, then come back to my own bed where DH is keeping it warm! I don't hear all her wriggles and squeaks so I sleep better.

I have a bubba moe too - she didn't like it at first, and neither did I as I couldn't get her in the right position (she always seemed so squashed!) but we have worked it out now! She falls asleep quickly in it. Last week I got a baby bjorn from ebay for $40 as I do worry that the sling isn't secure enough for me to do a lot. She hated the bjorn to start with but now sleeps when I put her in it and it feels safer. Persevere with the sling - I also found it great when you go out for dinner as you can just loosen it and she sleeps on your lap in it (except I tend to drop food on her!)

OK better go tidy up before she wakes again...

:)

Lukie

29-07-2009, 14:46

Ok- I am back! I managed to lie next to her in bed for a while, and have wriggled my arm out from under her head and left her there now. Techincally she should have woken for a feed by now, but i did give her a top up at midday when she woke up crying so given she hasn't slept much, I will let her continue her slumber...

Who was it that mentioned disposable breast pads??? Where do I get these from? Between sanitary pads, breast pads and B's nappies, we will go broke soon! lol I find I get a let down close to the time B is due to feed, and also if I am wearing a bra- staying in breastfeeding singlets as much as i can but must get more of these...

dbdb- we have B in a cradle next to the bed, but on the unsettled nights I take her in bed with me as she settles and sleeps this way as opposed to constantly grizzlind and waking (this has been the past two nights, so really miss DH now- we tried to have our usual NCIS date night last night. Got the popcorn ready and were just getting cuddled up on the couch and then B woke. Party of 2 ended of being party of 3 as she slept on me for the rest of the episode and then we were off to feed and settle-which took ages- and bed). It will get better soon I am sure.

kotakai- what's the philosophy of the baby whisperer books? I haven't read any of that sort. I read Baby Bliss by Dr Harvey Karp which I liked the philosophy of- basically easing babies into life on the outside via what he calls a fourth trimester where you try to simulate the womb as much as possible to get them settled.

KiahsMum

29-07-2009, 17:37

Lukie - Would look into sleep schools in your area. I know the Melbourne ones but not Sydney ones. We went to a day course and they showed you the routine and how it worked etc and it saved us with DD1's reflux though had to get the reflux under control first.

I do understand missing DH, was the same when I spent the best part of 3 months sleeping on the couch.

MooMum

29-07-2009, 17:48

Moomum has reminded me!! The little chairs, the rocker chairs with the vibrations, we had one of those for Kiah and it was awesome for after a feed as it kept her at a good angle to help keep the food down!

I don't know how I did this, or if you got me confused with someone else.... If it was me, ya for being somewhat useful when still big and round!!!:laughing::yelclap:

Hope you Mummies are all well and bubs are thriving. Kotokai I can't believe Cruz is NINE weeks old already!!! Amazing!

:hugs: to all.

KiahsMum

29-07-2009, 22:53

Moomum - You were talking (writing) about keeping bubs with reflux upright after feeds which reminded me we used to put DD1 in the chair to keep her upright after a feed and she could have some play time in the chair and we could have a break from constantly holding her :)

SalTheGal

30-07-2009, 09:44

Hey everyone...

I am going to be a bit cheeky and cut/paste part of a post from another thread- I feel like I am typing the same thing in several different parts of the forum!

Second day home (I only stayed in hosp 36hrs) Lloyd remarked that he had been looking at how it would all go through rose coloured glasses!! So alteast he is appreciating how hard it will be to get used to having him back at work...he goes back tomorrow :eek:.

Harry is going really well...after a rough few days to start with- trying to find our feet and get used to it all, I am finding everything is falling into place...he is a bit jaundice so i am feeding 3-4hrly, but I can see :fingerscrossed: that once I can let him go and set his own pace with feeding he is going to give me some decent breaks at night- he settles well after his N/Time feeds, and unlike Nedd is already down to 20-30min feeds (Nedd fed for an hour for ages, and never got down to feeds quicker than 30mins).

I am seeing NO signs of colic/reflux/milk allergy that Nedd had so hopefully that doesn't come either.

Nedd is adjusting well- but I think it is throwing him a bit, he was awake last night several times, this morning telling us he was scared, and he is quite sooky.... He has flipped from being a Mummies boy through and through to running to Lloyd for everything, which breaks my heart!!! But we'll see how he goes when Lloyd goes back to work, I hope I get my sweet little man back!!

So thats a bit of an update of how we are going....I am enjoying my "maternity" leave from most mod responsibilities atm, so am trying to make the most of it and not spend too much time her on the hub for a few weeks, so apologies for not being on too much.

I am reading, and loving hearing how everyone is going! Sounds like we are all settling in to motherhood ok....if not without a few of the regular teething problems.

Couple of thing- I have a Hug-a-bub sling, and LOVE it!! When Harry goes into it, I don't hear a peep from him till I take him out again.

Then again he barely cries, so I am lucky so far I think- even when he wakes for feeds he just seems to be happy to gurrgle a bit and sucj on his fingers till I come get him....vastly different from Nedd :smiliedance:

I don't know if this is a common knowledge thing- so I may just be telling you something you already know- but it is studied that Babies don't form habits for the 1st 12wks of their life....so don't feel bad bout carrying/babywearing/co sleeping etc etc in these early days, bubs just like to be close to their mums, and you aren't going to set up any habits that they will become reliant on at this point- I cherish the time to have Harry close to me as much as possible....

OK, am off to jump in the shower whilst both boys are settled...take care everyone! :flowerz:

staceylee

30-07-2009, 12:52

Hi Girls, how are you all?

Well Harper and I have had a couple of rough days and nights. The breast feeding isnt going so well. I am finding that when she wakes for a feed I am getting stressed out and often cry when she feeds so DH and I are thinking about putting her on the bottle. He doesnt get home till 6.30-7 most nights and then has office work to do and the breast feeding and being alone is doing my head in so we have been talking about it for the last week and thats the way we are thinking of going.

I feel bad about want to put her on the bottle but im not coping well with it and the times we have bottle fed I have been more relaxed and able to handle things alot better. SO I will be talking to the CYH nurse today about how to go about it. I hope she isnt mean to me about it but DH and I both feel its best for both Harper and I if we bottle feed.

staceylee

30-07-2009, 13:04

How do you know when your baby has reflux? Harper makes funny faces, swallows lots, hiccups a fair bit, when she cries she has a very rough sore throat kind of cry and some times has trouble settling after a feed and loves being held up right so she can better. But she doesnt cry heaps.

KiahsMum

30-07-2009, 14:04

Staceylee - *HUGE HUGS* I know how you feel. DD1 was bottle fed so had lots of help from DH as he could give her feeds and I could sleep or get things done, this time I feel like it is all up to me as Sarah still doesn't like a bottle so is solely breastfed. My nipples are in pain from cracks and because of the C/S I can't drive so am locked up in the house all bloody day with just me and a toddler and newborn as everyone who was supposed to help out has either gone back to work early or took their leave late and by the time they are on leave I will be able to drive again ....blah blah you get the picture so I do understand the loneliness. At times when Sarah cries for a feed, mainly during the night, I am in tears and don't want to get out of bed as I am so exhausted. There are moments when I think I should just bottle feed but she won't take the bottle.

You need to do what is best for you and bub to get you through. You can go the express path if you don't want to use formula but this can be stressful too so just decide which way is best for you and go for it. Remember if your nurse is hardline BF they are told to support BF first and foremost so they are doing their job but they can't get in your head and know how you are feeling and how you are coping. It is most important Harper have a happy, healthy mummy!

As for reflux, bubs with it don't just cry they fully scream, you can hear the pain in their screams. They also throw up a LOT unless silent reflux then you are back to screams. Sounds like Harper might have wind? Hiccups tend to be wind trapped and upright helps them to release the wind. Sarah is the same, she has a lot of wind and if we don't burp her regularly it gets trapped. I was told by the LC to burp her whenever she detaches from the breast or after 30-40ml from the bottle depending on how bubs feeds. Things like pulling up their legs and putting their hands in their mouths to suck are also wind symptoms (a lot of wind symptoms are also reflux symptoms which is where it can be confusing).

flis

30-07-2009, 14:42

Hi Girls

Am having a bit of an emo moment so sorry for the me post and maybe it will be a bit TMI but I was hoping someone here may know more ???.

I am having trouble down below. I feel like my inside bits are falling out and feel like I get a bubble of air or wee stuck when i go to the loo. I went to the clinic and she thinks it may be a prolapse which i hope it isnt but wondered whether anyone else has had this with this or after any other pregnancies and whether it will go away. Will make an appt to see womens health physio but am feeling a bit sore and sorry for myself right now. :-(

Flis

PS sorry for the me post and no personals today - am expecting guests and just needed to get my emo out before they come :-(

kotakai

30-07-2009, 14:57

I don't know if this is a common knowledge thing- so I may just be telling you something you already know- but it is studied that Babies don't form habits for the 1st 12wks of their life....so don't feel bad bout carrying/babywearing/co sleeping etc etc in these early days, bubs just like to be close to their mums, and you aren't going to set up any habits that they will become reliant on at this point

:laughing: DD & DS1 must've missed that study as they definately had it sussed out well before 12 weeks!

How do you know when your baby has reflux? Harper makes funny faces, swallows lots, hiccups a fair bit, when she cries she has a very rough sore throat kind of cry and some times has trouble settling after a feed and loves being held up right so she can better. But she doesnt cry heaps.

Babies can display reflux symptoms differently, but for my DS's it was the screaming in pain, I could feel it & hear it coming up & down, when they vomited it was boiling hot & they were really unsettled. As Kiahsmum said, it has lots of similar symptoms as wind so can be confusing. If you're not too sure, maybe ask your GP next time you're there just to check.

Also with the feeding, you need to do what's best for you. If you choose to FF, don't let the nurse talk you out of it. I can totally understand the feeling bad though. DD& DS1 were both FF from the start as I had no interest in BF. But with DS2&3 both being prem, I really wanted to BF them. Unfortunately they both have cows milk probs & need to be on prescription formula, so I couldn't BF them.

Am having a bit of an emo moment so sorry for the me post and maybe it will be a bit TMI but I was hoping someone here may know more ???.

I don't have any idea sorry. Just wanted to offer some :hugs:

Blonde Assassin

30-07-2009, 15:38

Oh wow - I only JUST found this thread! :laughing:

How is everyone going?! I clearly have some reading & catching up to do!! How fantastic we can all chat about our growing bubs together!!

Mitchell & I are going really well now! After my horrendous birth experience I had to go back to hospital in emergency as I had too much blood loss from the birth & afterwards & was borderline needing a blood transfusion :(
I can't believe no one in the hospital told me that I'd need to take iron tablets & the nurses in the ward left me to go home dizzy & unable to walk without hanging onto my DF, I just thought I was tired & getting over the epidural...but anyways!!

Like some of you I haven't been successful with breastfeeding either..my bubby was also born with a tongue tie so he wasn't able to attach from birth. We've since had that fixed at a doctor, but even after that he has actually refused to attach still, so he's a bottle boy I'm afraid..I express for him so he gets some breast milk aside from the formula, but its soooooooo time consuming to express as well as feed him formula or stored milk!! I doubt I'll continue expressing for a long time, but I feel guilty if he doesn't get any breast milk..its very tricky!

Anyways I'm going to go & read the last 7 or so pages to catch up on everything, talk to you all soon & hope you're going well xoxo :hugs:

The Fox

30-07-2009, 16:56

Staceylee Please dont feek bad about giving your baby formula, i understand the feeling of cringing when your baby is hungry because you know you have to feed them, at the end of the day you have to do what is best for you both and if your getting stressed about it your baby will sense that and you dont want that - if you still want to breastfeed you could try and see a LC i know breastfeeding was a million times better for me after i saw one, actually i have seen 2 LC's and spent the day in the breastfeeding clinic, its still not 100% but i no longer ball my eyes out in despair when Oliver is hungry, Good luck with it anyway and i hope your CHN is supportive, i think she will be and if not dont worry about her its not her baby so who cares what she thinks
Also with the reflux, i found with Oliver you could smell the acid IYKWIM, he throws up alot and has had poor weight gain only 70 grams this week, when he vomits its different from when he spits up, you can actually smell the acid in it, like it smells like vomit and there is usually heaps more then when he spits up oh yeah and when he cries he goes red in the face and stares at me in my eyes with tears streaming down his face (totally breaks my heart) its a different cry from what he does when he is hungry you can just see the pain in his face its aweful- hope this helps

FLis im sorry you are experiencing that, i havent had that happen to me but i think seeing your GP asap should help and put your mind at ease

Sal glad Harry is doing well and is showing now signs of reflux/colic or milk allergies. im sure your little man Ned will come running back to you, at the end of the day they will always be little mummies boys, at least i hope so

LukieGlad to hear the BF is getting better for you, i was given nipple shields to use at the breastfeeding clinic to get Oliver used to having the nipple all the way in the back of his mouth and also the told me to use them at the start of the feed to help draw my nipples out as they are quite short, not good for BF, i remember crying in the hospital to DP about how i dont have BF nipples like the ladies in the BF video lol, anyway i have been using the nipple shield on the left for the whole feed since the weekend as Oliver literally took half of my nipple of so im just letting it heal, i started using it on the right too though because its just so easy but i feel like im cheating i know its stupid but i dont like using them but today i have managed to feed Oliver on the right without it at all so hopefully he is getting stronger, the LC said that in a few weeks he will be alot stronger and will be able to latch on correctly without them, he still latches on the right incorrectly but its about 80% better
im so glad things are getting better for you and IKWYM about not wanting to have another baby, it is real hard work but its getting easier so maybe thats why people go back for more. they forget how hard it was at the start :)

AFMwell saw the doctor today and she thinks that Oliver is allergic to Milk or dairy as it runs in the family, she seems to think this aggravates his reflux so we are completely cutting it out, seems to be helping a bit. I took Oliver to see an osteo yesterday and whatever she did to him made his reflux so bad for about an hour, Oliver was screaming so i took him off her and tried to calm him but he was screaming in pain, was red in the face and tears streaming down his face :( i started balling my eyes out, it was seriously the worst pain i have seen him in, i could smell the acid on his breath, having said that today he has been a different baby has hardly thrown up so maybe it helped
also just out of curiosity what is eveyone else using for contraception now you have had your babies. DP and I always used the withdrawal method :o which clearly isnt that reliable :rolleyes: my GP wants me to go on the pill she gave me a script for one that you can take when BF but TBH im a little nervous about going on it, the last time i tried to go on the pill i took it once and got so violently ill, it was the most ill I have ever been in my life, i lost a ton of weight in just a week and this was from taking it once, so yeah i was just wondering what the rest of you will be using/doing, just ignore the question if it is to personal

staceylee

30-07-2009, 17:45

Hi everyone
Thanks heaps for your help and support about putting Harper on the bottle. The CYH nurse was very kind and supportive and has put me on a plan to reduce and slowly dry up my milk. I feel a heap better after making the choice to go down this path and DH is happy too as now he isnt coming home to 2 girls crying!

Flis - I hope things sort themselves out for you and your visitors cheer you up.

Sal - glad to hear Harry isnt showing any signs of reflux/colic or allergies :thumbsup:

Emz - Happy to hear things are getting better for you after your birth experience.

I am thinking of taking Harper to a ciro as have been told this may help her after her traumatic birth.

Cant remember who said it but I miss my DH too! It feels like we havent sat and cuddled and just relaxed together since H was born. Also DH sleeping in the lounge with H or me in the bedroom with H and DH in her room. It sucks and I miss him heaps.

Those of you who had a c-sect does your scar hurt? I feel like it is tearing sometimes when I move of sit up and really hurts to touch!!

Cassiiii - Dont know what we will do this time for contraception. We never really bothered with it since we have been married as we were kinda TTC but now I dont know what we will do. To be honest I dont think I can remember how to do it :laughing:

Ashdan

30-07-2009, 19:52

Who was it that mentioned disposable breast pads??? Where do I get these from? Between sanitary pads, breast pads and B's nappies, we will go broke soon! lol I find I get a let down close to the time B is due to feed, and also if I am wearing a bra- staying in breastfeeding singlets as much as i can but must get more of these...

I have shares in Johnsons as I am going through so many of them! You can pick them up at the chemist or supermarket. I find the Johnsons ones the best. I think they are about $8 for 24 and I change them each feed but it would definitely save you some on washing!

Couple of thing- I have a Hug-a-bub sling, and LOVE it!! When Harry goes into it, I don't hear a peep from him till I take him out again.

Then again he barely cries, so I am lucky so far I think- even when he wakes for feeds he just seems to be happy to gurrgle a bit and sucj on his fingers till I come get him....vastly different from Nedd :smiliedance:

I don't know if this is a common knowledge thing- so I may just be telling you something you already know- but it is studied that Babies don't form habits for the 1st 12wks of their life....so don't feel bad bout carrying/babywearing/co sleeping etc etc in these early days, bubs just like to be close to their mums, and you aren't going to set up any habits that they will become reliant on at this point- I cherish the time to have Harry close to me as much as possible....

OK, am off to jump in the shower whilst both boys are settled...take care everyone! :flowerz:

I love my hug a bub too. I think I looked into it after you mentioned it in the pregnancy forum! Cooper isn't a cryer either...he just grunts and sucks his fingers and I know he needs feeding. And I'm with you with bubs and habits that it seems a lot of people seem to make me feel guilty for. Everyone keeps telling me that I am spoiling him (as they did with Ashton) by rocking, carrying or holding him!

Hi Girls

Am having a bit of an emo moment so sorry for the me post and maybe it will be a bit TMI but I was hoping someone here may know more ???.

I am having trouble down below. I feel like my inside bits are falling out and feel like I get a bubble of air or wee stuck when i go to the loo. I went to the clinic and she thinks it may be a prolapse which i hope it isnt but wondered whether anyone else has had this with this or after any other pregnancies and whether it will go away. Will make an appt to see womens health physio but am feeling a bit sore and sorry for myself right now. :-(

Flis

PS sorry for the me post and no personals today - am expecting guests and just needed to get my emo out before they come :-(

You poor thing....Hope things get better and don't be sorry for your post! We're all here to listen. Did you go to the Robina clinic? We went yesterday for our hour appointment and the nurse was lovely. I love your video too that Rachel has done. It made me cry! She took some images of Cooper too and am hoping she makes a vid for us too!

AFM : Cooper has put on a kilo since he was born. He is getting so big...he's almost 5kg. I had an emotional breakdown as I still have a box of newborn nappies that I won't get to use.

Thought things with a baby and toddler were getting easier till tonight when DF went football training. Ashton was a nightmare putting to bed taking over an hour. Thought he'd finally gone to sleep when Cooper woke up for a feed, then I hear Ashton calling for me. I go into him and he has spilt his drink all over his brand new mattress (which I hadn't gotten around to buying a protector for :banghead:) and himself. I had to change him and his bed, start all over with settling him and had Cooper screaming for milk. As a result, I'm furious with DF so that's my contraception for a few more weeks!

SalTheGal

30-07-2009, 20:19

lol Ashdan....DH went back to work today, then had footy training tonight too- and I had a shocker of an evening too- sent Nedd to bed 1/2 earlier than normal just to get some peace, and he has nagged me ever since (down at 8, still not asleep). DH just walked in the door, and I have delegated Nedd to him straight away- I was tearing my hair out!!!

kimbub

30-07-2009, 21:55

Hi ladies, i'm so happy I've found this thread!

Our little boy, Leo, was born on the 10th of July - so he's 3 weeks old tomorrow. These first weeks have been pretty rough - no-one can prepare you for how much life changes with a newborn!

I had major bf issues from the start. The midwives said that Leo had some sucking issues (the wrong technique) and it was just a nightmare to get him to latch on and stay on and it didn't seem that he was getting enough from me. As a result, the pain from feeding him was unbearable and the damage done to my nipples was horrific. I totally understand those that have written about the stress of feeding when it's not the easy, natural experience we think it should be. I have now switched Leo over to formula as I was crying pretty much 24/7 before - from pain when he was feeding and then in anticipation of the next feed when he was asleep! It was a really difficult decision to put him on formula and I was really disappointed and felt so guilty, however my lactation consultant said to me that sometimes it just doesn't work out and the state of mind I was in was not healthy for me, my baby or my husband. Once the decision was made and Leo was put on the bottle, the relief was massive and I can now get through the day without this big cloud hanging over my head.

In regards to sleeping, Leo is pretty good - feeding about every 4 hours during the day and about every 3 during the night. In the last week he has started being quite fussy after a feed though and taking a while to go to sleep. I make sure to burp him constantly throughout the feed so I'm not sure if it's wind or not. My mum says that some babies just cry a bit, but I always thought babies were calm and sleepy after a feed. Is anyone else having similar problems? It sometimes takes an hour and a half (or more at night) to get him to sleep!

Anyway, sorry for the long post. Congratulations to all on the arrival of your bubs. It's great to read all your posts and know that there are others going through the same things as me! The new baby rollercoaster is full on!

farmerswife

31-07-2009, 08:51

Hi everyone!!

We have been in Adelaide for a couple days so its nice to be home at last!

Jasper def has reflux, which i was so hoping to avoid this time. (all 3 boys have had it now!) I managed to sweet talk the nurse into giving me an appointment with my doctor next week instead of one of the on-calls who usually have no idea about babies!! so hopefully we can get it sorted early this time!

He screams for ages after each feed and doesn't really settle during the day at all. On the positive front, like his brothers, he makes up for it at night and now sleeps from 10pm till 6am each night (for a week anyway!!) This is great for my head but not so great for my milk supply which is not liking the break but im too tired to wake up and express at night!

whoever mentioned baby love....best book ever!! it has become my standard baby shower gift for all my friends who seem to be having their 1st bubbas this year. I have 2 more showers this weekend actually!!

hope your all doing well.

SammiAnn

31-07-2009, 09:51

Morning girls :wave:,

I feel bad about want to put her on the bottle but im not coping well with it and the times we have bottle fed I have been more relaxed and able to handle things alot better.

Aw hun, that sounds like a good reason for the bottle, if it helps you and Harper feel better I don't see any problem with it! And if I did it wouldn't be any of my business!!! You are doing the best you can for Harper and yourself and to me that's wonderful :hugs::hugs:.

Am having a bit of an emo moment so sorry for the me post and maybe it will be a bit TMI but I was hoping someone here may know more ???

Sorry but I don't have any advice but please take plenty of these :hugs:. I hope someone here or your GP can help you out. Good luck.

also just out of curiosity what is eveyone else using for contraception now you have had your babies. DP and I always used the withdrawal method which clearly isnt that reliable

Hi Cassiiii, I can't help with your pill-question as we've only used the withdrawal method for the last 12 years and never had a surprise! I really hope that particular one doesn't play havoc with you, best of luck!

I have shares in Johnsons as I am going through so many of them! You can pick them up at the chemist or supermarket. I find the Johnsons ones the best. I think they are about $8 for 24 and I change them each feed but it would definitely save you some on washing!

AFM : Cooper has put on a kilo since he was born. He is getting so big...he's almost 5kg. I had an emotional breakdown as I still have a box of newborn nappies that I won't get to use.

As a result, I'm furious with DF so that's my contraception for a few more weeks!

I whole-heartedly second the Johnson's BPs, I love them!!! Yay for Cooper doin so well, congrats to you Mum! I know what you mean about the nappies, Alex still fits into them but his mega-poos don't!!! More (((hugs))) for you too, hope the mattress isn't too badly soaked. Love your contraceptive though :laughing:!

Hi ladies, i'm so happy I've found this thread!

Our little boy, Leo, was born on the 10th of July - so he's 3 weeks old tomorrow. These first weeks have been pretty rough - no-one can prepare you for how much life changes with a newborn!

Welcome and congratulations! I hope you enjoy this group as much as I do, there are beautiful women in here.

We have been in Adelaide for a couple days so its nice to be home at last!

Hi darl, I'm sorry to read about your darling having reflux. I really hope the meds work for you soon.

Big "hello's" to everyone else!!!

AFM: Had Alex's appointment with the ENT specialist yesterday. My parents came up and drove us there (eight hour round trip). The DR was lovely and seemed geuinly excited to announce Alex is breathing fine through one narrow nostril with some blockages in the left. He said he usually does exploritory surgery on them but due to bub still being young (and the hospital doesn't have a unit to deal with any possible problems afterwards) sent him for a CAT scan and said we'll prob 'sit' on him until he's bigger and his lungs are more developed to have surgery to remove possible blockages.

And we'll go to Brisbane for that seeing as they aren't equipped for little ones, just for peace of mind. He's going to ring me when he gets the scan in. Fingers crossed the blockages are nothing and can wait. So it's back to saline drops and sucking him out with the aspirator all the time. I'm was so relieved he didn't decide to put him under yesterday, didn't quite realise how stressed I was until we walked out of the office. The ladies at the scan place were wonderful and waited until I'd fed Alex and he was fast asleep, put him on the bed thing that they strapped him onto and he slept through the whole thing!

And after six and a half weeks my bleeding seems to be subsiding, still bright red but not gushing anymore, sorry for the TMI. GP has upped my iron tabs and he said I scrapped though not needing a transfusion. I knew I felt tired but thought it was just life atm! To throw more interest into this life, DH has decided to take a job offer closer to our home town. so in September we'll be moving the six hours home!!! I'm feeling a little daunted by it but so very excited at the same time.

Anyway, enough about me, just sharing my relief with you all!

Take care girls.

Sam :bee:

babeone

31-07-2009, 10:08

Hi ladies :wave: seems we have a few more familiar faces in this thread.

Tilly is now 4 weeks old and i think we are starting to get a bit more of a routine, i have started putting her in "day clothes" ie not a growth suit- they are her pj's, and have not been talking to her at night when i change her, keeping lights on low and after her bath in at around 5 she goes into her pj's. She has started to be awake after feeds in the day when she gets her playmat/tummytime or time in her bouncer and is going about 4hrs between feeds during the day and 5 at night on average. Last few nights she has been feeding about 7/7.30pm and then i have been off to bed by 8.30 which gives me 3 hours sleep, then i get another 3/4 hours between the next feed and i am actually starting to feel human again.

As for slings whoever mentioned them- I LOVE my bubba moe!!! it is the best invention ever- Tilly goes in it even when she seems restless or hungry 1hour after she has just fed and off she goes to sleep without a peep until i take her out and i can actually do things around the house:smiliedance:

Kimbub- maybe try waking bub for during the day to shorten how long he sleeps and keeping him awake?? I know it can be hard when they are tired but i sometimes wait till the end of a feed to change Tilly and she tends to wake up being full but then will stay awake for playtime and then sleeps at night. Just a suggestion as it has worked well for me.

Staceylee- contraception?? who knows i have been thinking about it for a while and at first i was thinking of going on mirena but after everything that has happened i dont particularly fancy having something shoved in me and then cramping for 2 weeks. Sooo i am thinking the mini pill as i am still BF but not sure what other options i have till i see the doc in a few weeks. As for DTD i am still too painful and down there..

Anyone else still healing? and doesnt fancy DTD just yet- mind you one of my stitches came undone and so instead of restitching the doc said it will heal itself so still waiting....... i am dying to but no such luck and i dont think i will for a while yet :(

Flis- i am also having some issues when peeing! Not sure what yours is like but at the end of weeing you know when you tighten your muscle (hope that makes sense) it hurts up near where my clitoris is- wierd and TMI but i am worried because how the hell do i explain that to my doctor?

Ashdan and Sal- RE partners going out does it irk you?? The last few weeks when DP has said he is going for a surf it has kinda annoyed me as his reeason is i dont really get time to go out or do anything anymore and im like ummmm hello where the hell do i get to go?? I know im just being selfish as i just want him to sit here with me and us all to be together and he is really good with being involved and doesnt really go out but for seem reason it just annoys me..

As for BF and bras/ singlets what is the deal. I have been wearing a BF bra constantly but when i put on just a singlet for a few days last week i felt like i was producing more milk so do BF bras inhibit your milk supply?? I know they suggest firm fitting bras to stop your milk production but i would of thought BF bras would be designed to wear when BF???

Last question of my rloonggg post is weight loss and getting your pre preggo body back coz i feel FAT. By belly is still there like a little muffin top- gross.. I have lost 13 kgs of my 19 i put on and thought BF would help but im hovering around this weight and none of my pants fit around my belly and i just want to be back to normal. Prob have to do some exercise and go on a proper diet but my excuse at the moment is im BF so i need to eat a lot to give DD what she needs and keep my milk/ energy supply up :laughing:

flis

31-07-2009, 10:12

Flis- i am also having some issues when peeing! Not sure what yours is like but at the end of weeing you know when you tighten your muscle (hope that makes sense) it hurts up near where my clitoris is- wierd and TMI but i am worried because how the hell do i explain that to my doctor?

hey havent read much else but just wanted to say that is what mine started with and i stopped my pelvic floor exercises now it is much worse so not sure if the exercises would have helped. going to womens health physio monday so hope to have an update then - will letyou know

sad you have something similar going on but am glad just the same that i am not alone. hope we can both sort things out.

louka is crying for a feed so bbl xxx

kotakai

31-07-2009, 10:29

Our little boy, Leo, was born on the 10th of July - so he's 3 weeks old tomorrow. These first weeks have been pretty rough - no-one can prepare you for how much life changes with a newborn!

Hi :wave: My DS was due on the 10th July, but decided to come 7 weeks early.

Jasper def has reflux, which i was so hoping to avoid this time. (all 3 boys have had it now!) I managed to sweet talk the nurse into giving me an appointment with my doctor next week instead of one of the on-calls who usually have no idea about babies!! so hopefully we can get it sorted early this time!

:hugs: for Jasper, reflux really sucks. My last have had it. Cruz is on Losec, but it's not working. We're back at the paed this afternoon, so I'm hoping since he's put more weight on we can up the dose.

Morning girls :wave:,

Glad Alex doesn't need to have an op yet. Hopefully as he grows, it fixes itself.

Lukie

31-07-2009, 15:25

It was a really difficult decision to put him on formula and I was really disappointed and felt so guilty, however my lactation consultant said to me that sometimes it just doesn't work out and the state of mind I was in was not healthy for me, my baby or my husband. Once the decision was made and Leo was put on the bottle, the relief was massive and I can now get through the day without this big cloud hanging over my head.

In regards to sleeping, Leo is pretty good - feeding about every 4 hours during the day and about every 3 during the night. In the last week he has started being quite fussy after a feed though and taking a while to go to sleep. I make sure to burp him constantly throughout the feed so I'm not sure if it's wind or not. My mum says that some babies just cry a bit, but I always thought babies were calm and sleepy after a feed. Is anyone else having similar problems? It sometimes takes an hour and a half (or more at night) to get him to sleep!
Hi Kimbub- I totally sympathise with you on the feeding thing- people have been complimenting me, saying I'm doing really well to have persisted with breastfeeding- but I don't feel right taking the compliment, I was this close to giving up so many times!!! And I cried at the thought of her being on my breasts which was so painful, then I cried at the thought of putting her on formula which I knew was not ideal. So much guilt and pressure as a new mum! You've got to consider your own well-being, you are the one that has to care for this little one!
As for settling after a feed- I find it takes ages to get Bridgette off to sleep in the afternoon/evenig after a feed. Today I tried putting her in her cradle half asleep and waited 30mins for her to put herself to sleep. I stroked her and gave her the dummy and she grizzled for ages, finally fell asleep but was awake 10 mins later crying. I think she's too little for this- and I also read babies don't make associations before 12 weeks, so have had her in the sling since then. Mum tells me to be careful, I'm getting used to her being rocked to sleep etc, however the theory of the Fourth Trimester where you have to get babies used to life on the outside slowly by simulating the womb, it sound right to me.

I have shares in Johnsons as I am going through so many of them! You can pick them up at the chemist or supermarket. I find the Johnsons ones the best. I think they are about $8 for 24 and I change them each feed but it would definitely save you some on washing!
I agree, Johnson's breast pads are the best! Still wanting to know about re-usable pads though... Where would I buy these from?

Hi everyone
Thanks heaps for your help and support about putting Harper on the bottle. The CYH nurse was very kind and supportive and has put me on a plan to reduce and slowly dry up my milk. I feel a heap better after making the choice to go down this path and DH is happy too as now he isnt coming home to 2 girls crying!
Glad you got the support you need at this time. Hope things will start to look up for you soon :hugs:

On the positive front, like his brothers, he makes up for it at night and now sleeps from 10pm till 6am each night (for a week anyway!!) This is great for my head but not so great for my milk supply which is not liking the break but im too tired to wake up and express at night.
Wow! That sleep is something I dream about! Can't wait til B sleeps for longer. IKWYM about expressing at night- I had to do it while B was on the bottle and my nipples were healing- just exhausting!

AFM: Had Alex's appointment with the ENT specialist yesterday. My parents came up and drove us there (eight hour round trip). The DR was lovely and seemed geuinly excited to announce Alex is breathing fine through one narrow nostril with some blockages in the left. He said he usually does exploritory surgery on them but due to bub still being young (and the hospital doesn't have a unit to deal with any possible problems afterwards) sent him for a CAT scan and said we'll prob 'sit' on him until he's bigger and his lungs are more developed to have surgery to remove possible blockages.

And we'll go to Brisbane for that seeing as they aren't equipped for little ones, just for peace of mind. He's going to ring me when he gets the scan in. Fingers crossed the blockages are nothing and can wait. So it's back to saline drops and sucking him out with the aspirator all the time. I'm was so relieved he didn't decide to put him under yesterday, didn't quite realise how stressed I was until we walked out of the office. The ladies at the scan place were wonderful and waited until I'd fed Alex and he was fast asleep, put him on the bed thing that they strapped him onto and he slept through the whole thing!

GP has upped my iron tabs and he said I scrapped though not needing a transfusion. I knew I felt tired but thought it was just life atm!
Great news about Alex. Hope the best results from the whole situation.
Good point about iron and blood loss- my bleeding is still red- not gushing, but substantial. I think I ought to grab some Elevit to make sure I'm getting enough iron- don't want to be any more tired than necessary!

Hi ladies :wave: seems we have a few more familiar faces in this thread.

Tilly is now 4 weeks old and i think we are starting to get a bit more of a routine, i have started putting her in "day clothes" ie not a growth suit- they are her pj's, and have not been talking to her at night when i change her, keeping lights on low and after her bath in at around 5 she goes into her pj's. She has started to be awake after feeds in the day when she gets her playmat/tummytime or time in her bouncer and is going about 4hrs between feeds during the day and 5 at night on average. Last few nights she has been feeding about 7/7.30pm and then i have been off to bed by 8.30 which gives me 3 hours sleep, then i get another 3/4 hours between the next feed and i am actually starting to feel human again.

As for slings whoever mentioned them- I LOVE my bubba moe!!! it is the best invention ever- Tilly goes in it even when she seems restless or hungry 1hour after she has just fed and off she goes to sleep without a peep until i take her out and i can actually do things around the house:smiliedance:

As for BF and bras/ singlets what is the deal. I have been wearing a BF bra constantly but when i put on just a singlet for a few days last week i felt like i was producing more milk so do BF bras inhibit your milk supply?? I know they suggest firm fitting bras to stop your milk production but i would of thought BF bras would be designed to wear when BF???

Last question of my rloonggg post is weight loss and getting your pre preggo body back coz i feel FAT. By belly is still there like a little muffin top- gross.. I have lost 13 kgs of my 19 i put on and thought BF would help but im hovering around this weight and none of my pants fit around my belly and i just want to be back to normal. Prob have to do some exercise and go on a proper diet but my excuse at the moment is im BF so i need to eat a lot to give DD what she needs and keep my milk/ energy supply up :laughing:
Good to hear you guys are getting into a routine- I hope things will get easier for us in another few weeks time... I also have the bubba moe, and while B didn't like it the first time we tried her in it, she sleeps in it quite well now... I can't do heaps with her in it- can't do the dishes for example, cos she sticks out too far, but I can have my hands free and walk around knowing she's settled and asleep.
As for bras/singlets. I find my bra to be rather uncomfortable- gets to be a touch small when it's close to feeding time- and I am living in my two BF singlets- must get more! I also found the bra was encouraging the let-down reflex fairly often!
Weight- Don't know how much I gained or have lost, but I tried to put on my pre-pregnancy jeans on the weekend and they will not fit up my thighs. Oh well. Must live in maternity pants a little while longer. On the other hand my belly is quite flat know, although there is excess skin.

Cassii- we are planning on using condoms. Maybe I will go back on the pill once I stop BF, but I'm hoping that won't be for a while.

AFM- Got a better night's sleep. B was up 4hourly to feed last night and gave me a bit of a sleep-in this morning til 9am. Her poo has been really liquidy yesterday and today. I don't just mean soft, I mean watery like diarrheaoa, but not as frequent. Any ideas???

babeone

31-07-2009, 15:38

Lukie- Tilly always has poo that is like that- looks like diarrhoea and midwife said to you or I it would be diarrhoea but for a BF bub this is quite normal- i was worried about it when she was about 10 days old as before then she had just soft green poo and then turned into this watery yellow grainy (Sorry for the TMI) poo which is how BF babies poss usually are. Tilly just seems to poo constantly, every nappy chage and often she will poo just as i put a new nappy on, she poos during a change, on the way to the bath, in the bath, on me, on DP, on the carpet, on her change mat, after a bath arrgh... she is just a pooing machine :laughing: i wish she was one of those BF babies who went days without pooing, now that would be nice.

Sammiann- good news about the nostrils- fingers crossed the results of the scan mean you dont need surgery :fingerscrossed:

farmerswife- i want that sleep too, you are one lucky lady... that would be so nice... maybe soon.... i hope soon... shouldnt really complain though coz she really is a good baby- i must remember this.

AFM: Dp has gone surfing again- finished work early and off to the beach as its a nice day. Feeling sorry for myself i went to the shop and bought a doughnut and a coke- this is surely a great way to help my weight issues... then felt even more sorry for myself as i walked around the shops looking at all the nice clothes that i cant fit into or afford- what a sad sack. I just want to have my cake and eat it too- DP at home all the time, my body back to normal, keep eating what a want and my beautiful baby girl- not too much to ask is it? :laughing:

kotakai

31-07-2009, 18:58

Still wanting to know about re-usable pads though... Where would I buy these from?

Some of the cloth nappy places sell these like darlingsdownunder or nurturenappies or clothpadshop or ozebaby

sandy119120

31-07-2009, 19:31

Hi,

I just want to get this off my chest, I had no problem with me having a c-section(im not sure now) but i had lot of trouble having to stop BF becouse a complication after cesarean. THis is what happened i had my c-sec and 2 days after a develop and infection they gave me antibiotics, but yesterday they called me and i have to go inmediatly to hospital, the infec i have wont respond to the antibiotics i was taking so i need stronger ones and for 14 days:hissy:. I asked the doc if i can keep on BF and they said yes but the pharmacist said no, and my DOc said no. SO i was thinking the amount of antibiotic still passes thru my milk is small some doc thinks is ok and some dont. I am ssooo confuse and cried soooo much BF is always being very important for me. I guess i cant give my baby soo much of the strong antibiotic :crying:.

SOrry i just want to say how i really feel about this.

KiahsMum

31-07-2009, 20:39

Sorry to hear you are having issues Sandy *hugs* Can you express to keep up supply and then start BF again when you stop taking the meds?? Hate it when doctors can't agree on things and make it confusing for you!

Shan90

01-08-2009, 07:24

Hey girls it has been a while since i have been on here so i thought i would come and say hi again!
I had our baby Girl on the 13th of July her name is Talia
if i could work out how to post pics i would

flis

01-08-2009, 08:06

also just out of curiosity what is eveyone else using for contraception now you have had your babies. DP and I always used the withdrawal method which clearly isnt that reliable my GP wants me to go on the pill she gave me a script for one that you can take when BF but TBH im a little nervous about going on it, the last time i tried to go on the pill i took it once and got so violently ill, it was the most ill I have ever been in my life, i lost a ton of weight in just a week and this was from taking it once, so yeah i was just wondering what the rest of you will be using/doing, just ignore the question if it is to personal
We are going to use natural methods (ie temp charting / mucus checking) and either abstenance or condoms on fertile days - though i couldnt think of anything worse than sex right now lol

Hi everyone
Thanks heaps for your help and support about putting Harper on the bottle. The CYH nurse was very kind and supportive and has put me on a plan to reduce and slowly dry up my milk. I feel a heap better after making the choice to go down this path and DH is happy too as now he isnt coming home to 2 girls crying!

Glad your nurse was supportive - have heard you definitely need to go slow with the drying up of milk otherwise it is excrusiating (sp?)

I have shares in Johnsons as I am going through so many of them! You can pick them up at the chemist or supermarket. I find the Johnsons ones the best. I think they are about $8 for 24 and I change them each feed but it would definitely save you some on washing!
You poor thing....Hope things get better and don't be sorry for your post! We're all here to listen. Did you go to the Robina clinic? We went yesterday for our hour appointment and the nurse was lovely. I love your video too that Rachel has done. It made me cry! She took some images of Cooper too and am hoping she makes a vid for us too!

I agree re J&Js - tried pigeon but they were plastic backed and really itched my boobs so am back on the J&J. Re the washable ones - i heard they are a bit uncomfy as they dont draw away the moisture so you feel wet...

I didnt go to robina though all my friends went there and have said the lady there is fantastic - before L was born i planned to but JF has a clinic in house so felt i should go there at least for the first few times. the midwives are great at the JF one too. I now dont go back there till 12 weeks - bc the paed does the 6 week one and the dr does an 8 week one - is this normal?

Hi ladies, i'm so happy I've found this thread!

Our little boy, Leo, was born on the 10th of July - so he's 3 weeks old tomorrow. These first weeks have been pretty rough - no-one can prepare you for how much life changes with a newborn!

welcome to our group - it is fantastic here - you will love it :-)

Jasper def has reflux, which i was so hoping to avoid this time. (all 3 boys have had it now!) I managed to sweet talk the nurse into giving me an appointment with my doctor next week instead of one of the on-calls who usually have no idea about babies!! so hopefully we can get it sorted early this time!

He screams for ages after each feed and doesn't really settle during the day at all. On the positive front, like his brothers, he makes up for it at night and now sleeps from 10pm till 6am each night (for a week anyway!!) This is great for my head but not so great for my milk supply which is not liking the break but im too tired to wake up and express at night!

whoever mentioned baby love....best book ever!! it has become my standard baby shower gift for all my friends who seem to be having their 1st bubbas this year. I have 2 more showers this weekend actually!!

hope your all doing well.
hope J settles for you now... and am envious of your sleeping through!!! L wakes up twice which is usually ok until she has a sleepy night and i get all frustrated cause i am worried she will wake more than twice and i am not sure how i will cope with waking again... silly really as i am sure i would (and she hasnt anyway!)

AFM: Had Alex's appointment with the ENT specialist yesterday. My parents came up and drove us there (eight hour round trip). The DR was lovely and seemed geuinly excited to announce Alex is breathing fine through one narrow nostril with some blockages in the left. He said he usually does exploritory surgery on them but due to bub still being young (and the hospital doesn't have a unit to deal with any possible problems afterwards) sent him for a CAT scan and said we'll prob 'sit' on him until he's bigger and his lungs are more developed to have surgery to remove possible blockages.

And after six and a half weeks my bleeding seems to be subsiding, still bright red but not gushing anymore, sorry for the TMI. GP has upped my iron tabs and he said I scrapped though not needing a transfusion. I knew I felt tired but thought it was just life atm! To throw more interest into this life, DH has decided to take a job offer closer to our home town. so in September we'll be moving the six hours home!!! I'm feeling a little daunted by it but so very excited at the same time.

Sam :bee:
Fingers crossed for little Alex, Sam. And hoping you start to feel better now with the Iron tabs etc.

Ashdan and Sal- RE partners going out does it irk you?? The last few weeks when DP has said he is going for a surf it has kinda annoyed me as his reeason is i dont really get time to go out or do anything anymore and im like ummmm hello where the hell do i get to go?? I know im just being selfish as i just want him to sit here with me and us all to be together and he is really good with being involved and doesnt really go out but for seem reason it just annoys me..

Last question of my rloonggg post is weight loss and getting your pre preggo body back coz i feel FAT. By belly is still there like a little muffin top- gross.. I have lost 13 kgs of my 19 i put on and thought BF would help but im hovering around this weight and none of my pants fit around my belly and i just want to be back to normal. Prob have to do some exercise and go on a proper diet but my excuse at the moment is im BF so i need to eat a lot to give DD what she needs and keep my milk/ energy supply up :laughing:
my hubby has been leaving the house frequently too - surfing also! he has a big surfing contest in a few weeks so that is his excuse but i agree - i dont really get to go out alone and have me time and often we dont get to spend too much time together as we have had heaps of people over to see L so would prefer sometimes if he just hung out at home with me!

re weight loss - i too have lost a heap (15kg from the 25kg i put on) but i am still not able to fit into my clothes. I bought some elastic waist pants from jeans west recently and they are super comfy but even my big tops dont fit bc of my new found boobs and they are all too short as well as a bit tight in the tum. i went to billabong yesterday and got myself a few nice tops in size 16 so at least i can feel nice when i go out rather than feeling too frumpy!

As for settling after a feed- I find it takes ages to get Bridgette off to sleep in the afternoon/evenig after a feed. Today I tried putting her in her cradle half asleep and waited 30mins for her to put herself to sleep. I stroked her and gave her the dummy and she grizzled for ages, finally fell asleep but was awake 10 mins later crying. I think she's too little for this- and I also read babies don't make associations before 12 weeks, so have had her in the sling since then. Mum tells me to be careful, I'm getting used to her being rocked to sleep etc, however the theory of the Fourth Trimester where you have to get babies used to life on the outside slowly by simulating the womb, it sound right to me.

we have been popping L in her bassinet awake since we came home. i can now tell the difference between a cranky cry and a wind down cry / whinge and leave her to whinge but always pick her up and comfort her when she is crying. most times she goes off after a few minutes of whinging, other times she cries and i go in several times and pick her up, pat her, rock the crib, make shshsh noises and she goes to sleep. i always try to stop just before she goes off to sleep but not sure if this will help in the long run... i am having trouble getting her back to sleep more when she wakes after an hour or so, she doesnt indicate she is hungry but is awake. i try the same techniques but they dont really work so well and i often end up rocking her or feeding her... any suggestions?

AFM: Dp has gone surfing again- finished work early and off to the beach as its a nice day. Feeling sorry for myself i went to the shop and bought a doughnut and a coke- this is surely a great way to help my weight issues... then felt even more sorry for myself as i walked around the shops looking at all the nice clothes that i cant fit into or afford- what a sad sack. I just want to have my cake and eat it too- DP at home all the time, my body back to normal, keep eating what a want and my beautiful baby girl- not too much to ask is it? :laughing:
hugs darling - as above totally understanding how you feel. i had maccas the other day, felt totally guilty about it but it was near L's feed time and i knew i could go through drive through and then eat it with the car on in the garage to trick her into thinking we were still driving - as she is settled in the car but as soon as we get out she cries to get fed! Lol

Hi,

I just want to get this off my chest, I had no problem with me having a c-section(im not sure now) but i had lot of trouble having to stop BF becouse a complication after cesarean. THis is what happened i had my c-sec and 2 days after a develop and infection they gave me antibiotics, but yesterday they called me and i have to go inmediatly to hospital, the infec i have wont respond to the antibiotics i was taking so i need stronger ones and for 14 days:hissy:. I asked the doc if i can keep on BF and they said yes but the pharmacist said no, and my DOc said no. SO i was thinking the amount of antibiotic still passes thru my milk is small some doc thinks is ok and some dont. I am ssooo confuse and cried soooo much BF is always being very important for me. I guess i cant give my baby soo much of the strong antibiotic :crying:.

SOrry i just want to say how i really feel about this.
Hope you can work this out so you can BF still babe... thinking of you...

WOW What a mammoth post.

Chat soon girls!!!

FLis xxx

Lukie

01-08-2009, 15:35

sandy119120

01-08-2009, 15:52

Hi Girls!

After lot of thinking i decided(with DH) i will give her bottle for the next 2 weeks and also BF just before my antibiotic is due (my DOc is happy with that) so she doesnt get the antibiotics and then express my milk so i can keep up with my supply. I dont really like to make bottle but i guess is better for the baby in my condition. MIa also jaundice her levels are (163) but they said she doesnt need phototherapy as they think she should get better within a few days (i hope so). As for me i have increadible pain it gets worst when i pass urine sorry TMI:o. it feels like i have a ball instead of uterus.

re Weight Issues - I cant think now in that becouse my uterus is still big. BUt i dont think it will be that easy as i put 35 kilos :no:. I cant wait to get back pre pregnancy weight.

sammi - Glad Alex is breathig better. Finger cross for him.

Farmerwife - Hope Jasper reflux settles soon. You are lucky getting a very good night sleep.

take care.

dbdb

01-08-2009, 16:55

Lukie, imagine being told not to hold the baby while you breastfeed! How ridiculous! I always think of the phrase "babies don't need routines, mums do" when people say things like that: reminds me that so much of this 'advice' is about trying to make babies fit into our lives, whereas I think that it works both ways. Isobel is almost 8 weeks and if she won't settle, I still use the sling/baby bjorn - it is practical too! As adults, we like to cuddle and go to sleep next to our partners - why would babies be any different?

And the re-usable breat pads i have are by Avent, I just got them in the chemsit (near the breast pumps etc), they were about $16 for 6 pads and a little wash bag. I find them fine, and I keep some J&J in my bag in case I need to change the pads. I seem to only get 'damp' overnight - maybe because she feeds so much during the day!

Isobel has now been asleep for 4 hours this afternoon! It is unusual, and I feel mean because I am really worried now that she won't sleep tonight and want her to wake up. But I know you shouldn't wake a sleeping baby... aaggghh! Usually she just catnaps during the day. What does everyone else do??

:)

SammiAnn

01-08-2009, 17:25

Evening girls,

Tilly is now 4 weeks old and i think we are starting to get a bit more of a routine.

Hi hun, Tilly's (I LOOOVE her name!) routine sounds much like Alex's, though I'm naughty and don't go to bed until 9:30pm-ish. I give him a 'dreamfeed' and he'll last until 1am-ish. Sounds like you and your little princess have a good thing going! Thanks for the wishes for bub.

Glad Alex doesn't need to have an op yet. Hopefully as he grows, it fixes itself.

Many thanks hun, fingers crossed here! I can't help but smile at your AV pic of Cruz, he's so cute! Quick question, how are you going to add his name to your username???

Great news about Alex. Hope the best results from the whole situation.
Good point about iron and blood loss- my bleeding is still red- not gushing, but substantial. I think I ought to grab some Elevit to make sure I'm getting enough iron- don't want to be any more tired than necessary!

AFM- Got a better night's sleep. B was up 4hourly to feed last night and gave me a bit of a sleep-in this morning til 9am. Her poo has been really liquidy yesterday and today. I don't just mean soft, I mean watery like diarrheaoa, but not as frequent. Any ideas???

Good luck with your iron, I figure it can't hurt as long as it doesn't constipate you, but I'm sure you know all about that from preg! Yay for the 9am sleep-in!!! As for poo, Alex's is really runny and being BF will prob stay that way until he starts solids, I'm sure B's is normal but can't hurt to ask CHN or someone if you're worried.

Hey girls it has been a while since i have been on here so i thought i would come and say hi again!
I had our baby Girl on the 13th of July her name is Talia
if i could work out how to post pics i would

Hello Shan90. Congratulations on the arrival of your little girl, such a cute name! The way I post pics is using photobucket, PM me you'd like a little help. I really like the way kotakai gets hers in the post but I have no idea how she does it :confused: (maybe you can clue me in kotakai???).

Fingers crossed for little Alex, Sam. And hoping you start to feel better now with the Iron tabs etc.

Thanks hun. Love your car trick! Alex loves the car too but seems to have worked out when it's stopped forward motion! He's not as bad as his big sister though, we used to joke that DD2 was like the bus from the movie 'Speed'. Once the car dropped below 60km she'd GO OFF!!! Hope you enjoyed your maccas!

Vent coming...

:hugs: and I think we need a *slap* smilie for those type people with those type comments! You're doing a wonderful job hun.

sammi - Glad Alex is breathig better. Finger cross for him.

Thanks Sandy. I think you've made a good decision about feeding during your ABs. Good luck with it all darl, I'm sure Mia will grow just fine however she's fed :hugs:.

Isobel has now been asleep for 4 hours this afternoon! It is unusual, and I feel mean because I am really worried now that she won't sleep tonight and want her to wake up. But I know you shouldn't wake a sleeping baby... aaggghh! Usually she just catnaps during the day. What does everyone else do??

Yay for sleeping!!! I have always found it to be against my religion to wake a sleeping baby ;). Hopefully she'll wake soon or you could try a 'dreamfeed'? I find that helps Alex sleep a little longer through the night if I feed him when I go to bed when he's already been down for a couple of hours. Best of luck! (Hmmm... it's taken me so long to type this she's probably already woken!)

Big :wave: to all of your wonderfully clever July Mummy's out there, you're all doing a fantastic job!

Sam :flowerz:

staceylee

01-08-2009, 18:37

Hi lovely ladies!!

Well we are at day 2 of the change from breast to bottle and all seems to be going well. Had a little hiccup last night where Harper chucked up all of her 5.30 feed and was hungry again at 6 and 7 and then had another feed at 9.30 but then she slept till 4am and had her usual 4am feed and is now kinda back into some sort of pattern but we are just following her cues atm. If she is hungry we feed her even if its only been 2.5hrs but she was like that on the breast 2.

Im so tired these days as I am on iron tabs as lost abit of blood during the c-section but I keep forgetting to take them and DH has moved them so I dont see them as soon as I walk into the kitchen every morning.

Lukie - Some people are silly! I hold Harper till she is asleep and cuddle her while she is sleeping on me. My girl loves her cuddles alot and I love to cuddle her so I dont think its a problem. Though I would like to be able to settle her in her bassinet while she is awake but we will work on that when we are both ready.

Sandy - Happy to hear you have worked out a plan so you can keep breast feeding your bub.

SammiAnn - Very happy to hear Alex is doing well. Hope his blockages will fix themselves without to much help.

Lukie

01-08-2009, 19:49

Ok I'm back and a bit calmer... thanks for the sympathy girls, knew I could count on you... I agree Sammi- we do need a slap smiley! Worst of all my mum agreed with my aunty- I could've really used her support, or at least not have her gang up on me! Anyway...

Lukie- Tilly always has poo that is like that- looks like diarrhoea and midwife said to you or I it would be diarrhoea but for a BF bub this is quite normal- i was worried about it when she was about 10 days old as before then she had just soft green poo and then turned into this watery yellow grainy (Sorry for the TMI) poo which is how BF babies poss usually are. Tilly just seems to poo constantly, every nappy chage and often she will poo just as i put a new nappy on, she poos during a change, on the way to the bath, in the bath, on me, on DP, on the carpet, on her change mat, after a bath arrgh... she is just a pooing machine :laughing: i wish she was one of those BF babies who went days without pooing, now that would be nice.
I agree with you- B is a poo machine! And she does wet fluffs all the time, so she has a stinky nappy and I have to change her!

Some of the cloth nappy places sell these like darlingsdownunder or nurturenappies or clothpadshop or ozebaby
Thanks Kotakai!

:hissy:. I asked the doc if i can keep on BF and they said yes but the pharmacist said no, and my DOc said no. SO i was thinking the amount of antibiotic still passes thru my milk is small some doc thinks is ok and some dont. I am ssooo confuse and cried soooo much BF is always being very important for me. I guess i cant give my baby soo much of the strong antibiotic :crying:.
How stressful for you Sandy! So sorry you are going through this- I know what it's like to get conflicting information, when you really need a straight answer :hugs: Hope you get lots of support and can keep up with expressing as you plan.

Lukie, imagine being told not to hold the baby while you breastfeed! How ridiculous! I always think of the phrase "babies don't need routines, mums do" when people say things like that: reminds me that so much of this 'advice' is about trying to make babies fit into our lives, whereas I think that it works both ways. Isobel is almost 8 weeks and if she won't settle, I still use the sling/baby bjorn - it is practical too! As adults, we like to cuddle and go to sleep next to our partners - why would babies be any different?

And the re-usable breat pads i have are by Avent, I just got them in the chemsit (near the breast pumps etc), they were about $16 for 6 pads and a little wash bag. I find them fine, and I keep some J&J in my bag in case I need to change the pads. I seem to only get 'damp' overnight - maybe because she feeds so much during the day!

Isobel has now been asleep for 4 hours this afternoon! It is unusual, and I feel mean because I am really worried now that she won't sleep tonight and want her to wake up. But I know you shouldn't wake a sleeping baby... aaggghh! Usually she just catnaps during the day. What does everyone else do??
Thanks for the sympathy and the info re: BP, will have to check out the chemist tomorrow. IKWYM about Isobel sleeping cos we are all so desperate for sleep at night. I've received conflicting info over this. Midwives that visited at home said one sleep up to 6hrs long in 24hrs is ok. Tresillian nurse told me that they recommend you wake to feed after 4-5hrs(after the start of their last feed, not that they've been sleeping for 4-5hrs) unless it's during the night. B used to sleep for 6hrs in the morning, but not anymore:no:. I would be tempted to wake her by 5hrs, more because I would have the same worry as you about not sleeping as well or as much through the night. Good luck!

Sammi- Can you explain how to dreamfeed? DOn't they wake when you put the boobie in their mouth? What about burping?

Staceylee-W're trying to follow Bridgette's hungry cues too. Last two nights she has been awake at 6pm, 8pm and 10pm, for no apparent reason and I have offered her a feed in the hope that it will get her back to sleep. She gulped it down like there was no tomorrow so I guess she was hungry? I agree, we will try to get her to go to sleep on her own closer to 12weeks, when we are both ready.

I have another question re: leaking boobies. Will they always leak? Or will they settle after 6 weeks? I find I am getting a let down reflex about an hour before B is due for a feed.

kotakai

01-08-2009, 19:54

Quick question, how are you going to add his name to your username???

I really like the way kotakai gets hers in the post but I have no idea how she does it :confused: (maybe you can clue me in kotakai???).

:laughing: don't know what I'll do about the user name. I use kotakai_chais on other forums, but I think poor Cruz will have to miss out. Too long otherwise.

I have absolutely no idea why that happens with the photos????? I do it the same way each time & in some threads it puts the picture, but others it puts the link.

kotakai

01-08-2009, 20:03

Sammi- Can you explain how to dreamfeed? DOn't they wake when you put the boobie in their mouth? What about burping?

I have another question re: leaking boobies. Will they always leak? Or will they settle after 6 weeks? I find I am getting a let down reflex about an hour before B is due for a feed.

I'm not Sammi, but thought I'd answer about the dreamfeed. This is usually done around 10pm ish, to try & get them to sleep a little longer through the night. Just gently pick her up & put your breast in her mouth. Usually babies will stay asleep & just happily drink. They are also usually so relaxed during this feed they don't need burping as they don't tend to gulp any air. Maybe just hold her up on you & see if she burps. Then just put her back to bed & :fingerscrossed:!!!!! This can also be done with a bottle for those that FF.

With the leaky breasts. Some people are lucky & it stops & they don't even need to wear breast pads. I wasn't one of them :no: I used to always get that tingling let down feeling & leak. Had to make sure I carried spare pads with me.

SammiAnn

02-08-2009, 07:35

Morning girls,

Well we are at day 2 of the change from breast to bottle and all seems to be going well.

:yelclap: that's great staceylee. I hope it continues to go well for you and bubba. Also hopeing the tiredness settles for you soon, I'm still waiting for my iron tbs to kick in (or maybe I'm imagining them to be 'magic' tabs to take all sleep deprivedness away :laughing:! I wish!!!).

Ok I'm back and a bit calmer... thanks for the sympathy girls, knew I could count on you... I agree Sammi- we do need a slap smiley! Worst of all my mum agreed with my aunty- I could've really used her support, or at least not have her gang up on me! Anyway...

Sammi- Can you explain how to dreamfeed? DOn't they wake when you put the boobie in their mouth? What about burping?

I have another question re: leaking boobies. Will they always leak? Or will they settle after 6 weeks? I find I am getting a let down reflex about an hour before B is due for a feed.

Definitely need a *slap* icon, though I feel a little naughty sending one for your mum but here goes.... ****(((((SLAP)))))**** not as effective but makes me feel a little better!

And dreamfeeds are exactly as the lovely kotakai described. I used them with DD2 and have found them working (sometimes) with Alex (not last night but I think it may have had something to do with the garlic pizza we had last night :o). With DD1 I was all over the place and she was still waking for comfort feeds up to six times a night, I've sworn NEVER to do that again!

As for leaking, here I am third time around and nearly seven weeks in and still get let down and leaking when bub cries. I think I felt brave enough to stop pads with the girls around the six to eight month mark? Different boobs will do different things!!! I have a towel under me at night to stop the matress and DH getting drenched!

don't know what I'll do about the user name. I use kotakai_chais on other forums, but I think poor Cruz will have to miss out. Too long otherwise.

I have absolutely no idea why that happens with the photos????? I do it the same way each time & in some threads it puts the picture, but others it puts the link.

Hmmm.. maybe we'll need to brainstorm... kotakacr... kotakaicru... kotakacru... very tricky indeed! Bugger about the fluke with the pics! I love the way they show up in the thread, will have to experiment methinks!

Thanks for explaining the dreamfeed! You did it so eloquently!! I tend to ramble (incase you didn't read ANY of my other posts :laughing:!!!).

AFM: Had a slightly unsettled night with the little man last night so feeling a little worse for wear this morning. DH has made pancakes and they have just been delivered to the table so I'd best be off. Hmmm.... seems I'll be eating one armed again as I here baby noise! And DD2 has taken it as her personal mission to announce "Mummy, your baby is crying!" everytime he squeaks!!!

Have a lovely Sunday sweets!

Sam :flowerz:

sandy119120

02-08-2009, 15:48

Vent coming...

Why oh why oh why oh why does everyone feel they have the right to give me advice on how to parent my own child? What makes them think I care or will listen to them??? Bridgette is 2 weeks old, I believe its ok for me to carry her in a sling or in my arms, to rock her to sleep, and to hold her while I BF (!shock horror!!!). My aunty was over with my mum just earlier and I had B in the sling. "Oh, I have to tell you, you don't want to do that too often. She'll get used to it, and cry and want to be picked up all the time." I replied that she's only little, plus we'd just come back from a walk. "Oh I know, it's because it's your first. I was like that with my first too, but you'll see. Well, you have to hold her cos you're BF, but I know women who would breastfeed lying down on the bed so they avoid holding their baby":hair::banghead::hair:

I was wondering that this morning. I guess you think maybe becouse first time mum they wanted to tell how to look after your own child but for example mi MIL she only had 2 kids i got more than her and she still tells me what to do how to do it and so on. I also was told about not carry my baby too much, that was my beautiful mum which i love but i had to tell her "this is my baby i got two already i know what to do and even if i didnt have more kids i just want to enjoy her as much as i can". To be honest i do carry her a lot and cuddle her a lot when she goes to sleep(she sleep a lot) and she is my last too so who cares if she gets used to be carry or hold and i agree with dbdb if we love to be cuddle why woulndt be the same for babies. Ohh hun just do it you only have to do what you feel happy with. And she is soooo gorgeous i cant blame you :bee:.

Kotakai - I used to leak woth my boys(i guess boys just eat a lot) but no with Mia and kind of surprise. But with my Boys i used to buy disposable ones(lot of money) and this time i bought some washable ones they're ok but as i said i havent use them this time very much.

dbdb - Babies needs lot of sleep Mia actually sleep just alot i have to wake her up for feeding she can sleep 5 to 6 hour and only wakes up at 1 in the morning and 5 then sleeps till 9 in the morning, i dont think lot of sleep during the day will keep them awake at night unless the baby cries all night.

Stacylee - glad baby is feeding well some babies wont take bottle but it looks that is working well for you.

AFM - thanks girls for the support, im feeling better now. but i cant wait to get better and go back to BF.

staceylee

02-08-2009, 16:52

Hi lovely ladies!!!

Cant remember who was talking about it but I was worried that Harper was sleeping too long during the day and not enough at night then it all turned around and I was worried about it the other way. The CYH nurse I spoke to said if she is gain weight at a good rate you dont need to wake her at night as she will wake when she is hungry. Also if she isnt sleeping and is feeding lots in the evening to not her sleep anymore then 4hrs between feeds during the day. But that is just more conflicting advise for us all :o

Ok well I kinda need to vent a little so feel very welcome to skip this next part. Its a MIL story.

Well today we went to IL's for lunch and when we got there DH left me to fend for myself while he went outside with his brother (I had told him on the way not sure how Ill cope with lots of people today), so anyway SIL is holding Harper and MIL starts saying things like 'its my turn next, I havent held her since the day she was born, that was nearly 3 weeks ago' well thats not my fault she knows where we live if she wanted to visit but hasnt and other things like 'I might not see her again' and 'she might not come out here again' they live 10mins away and just a whole lot of things that made me think she was trying to saying that I wont let her see Harper and we will never come visit them ever again. We even go to the same church that is down the road for THEIR house!! So after I got over that and felt calm she started to talk to me about the bottle. Dont get me wrong I dont think she is against but she started saying 'are you ok with putting her on the bottle?' 'Is it really what you want?' 'how is she doing on the bottle?' and many more questions. I am guessing she is trying to be supportive but we have decided that is what we want and now I feel kind of guilty for putting her on the bottle because of all the questions.

Then at the lunch table H started to cry and look for a top up feed as she does sometimes and I said to DH 'I think she might be a little hungry' DH 'when was her last feed? about 2.5hours ago? yeah I guess she might' then MIL calls out across the room 'Shes not hungry its only been 2.5hrs! She cant be hungry!' I hope I didnt sound nasty but I said 'yes she can be. She feeds when she likes anywhere between 2hrs to 5hrs.' Then she said something about bottle fed babies going 4hrs between each feed. I think it may have just been because I was tired and cant handle somethings when Im tired. It didnt help that when we first got there MIL was yelling/talking very loudly really close to Harper and she was sleeping. DH even had to tell her to stop because she was sleeping.

Argh I think Im just a grumpy old lady!! Next thing you know Ill be yelling at kids to get off my lawn and teenagers to turn down that music :laughing::laughing:

mini munchkin

02-08-2009, 20:20

Hi Ladies! Finally found you all!!

Vent coming...

Vent all you need to!! My MIL can be annoying, but is much better this time around... however I would mortify your aunt and mum! I have just rocked and cuddled my little man off to sleep. I love holding him and gazing into his eyes while he feeds and find that if I need to get stuff done and he's grizzly then I grab my ergo and pop him in there!! (It's another sling thing)... my DH always says think about what they do in other countries - they strap their babes on their backs and seem to have a much more 4th trimester embracing mentality.

Anyway, go with your gut feelings, do as you want to and what you feel is right.

I got my cloth breast pads from kmart - tommie tippie ones....can't remember how much, I got them with L.

Ok, DH is home from church, little Lamb is now asleep so I'd best spend some time with DH and then clean the house before bed!!

Look forward to chatting more, take care lovelies

Mich xxx

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

03-08-2009, 10:18

Just a quick post to officially join the thread! Will have to do some reading and catching up a bit later when bub is fed!
:wave:

babeone

03-08-2009, 12:09

Morning all, doing a one hander as Tilly is feeding so sorry for sp mistakes :)

welcome Nic- bet your soo happy she is finally here- cant wait to hear your birth story- love love love her name.

mini munchkin- my mum says the same thing about women in other countries. my dp isnt so convinced as he is worried she wont sleep unless she is being held- didnt help yesterday when she was awake all day and only dozed when being held. she wasnt crying or anything just awake.

staceylee and lukie :hugs: sorry about other people feeling they have the right to tell you what you should be doing. my mum and dp parents wouldnt dream of it now- they know what they will hear from both of us after a few comments they have made esp when i was pg with her. neither of them were perfect parents and i dont mind advice but let us make our own mistakes and dont feel the need to say i told you so. parents and family hey!!! :hugs: hope it gets better.

Im using avent and the rite aid disposables but i dont really leak until she is just about to latch on so im quite lucky really.

AFM: Think she is going through a growth spurt or something- she fed every 2hrs yesterday and 3 through the night but back to 2 today and is wide awake between feeds. not 100% sure im giving her enough milk as my supply has always been low- i guess she would be screaming if she was hungry wouldnt she?

I have been feeling a bit overwhelmed today like i have so much that i would normally be doing around the house if i was on holidays but find it hard think about what i need to get done as im looking after Tilly and by the time she is fed, played with, nappy changed etc... i forgot what i have to do and when you feel like there is so much to do its hard to know where to start. i feel sorry for dp but i have managed to vacuum and do a load of laundry and dishes so far but the list is still so long....

anyway better go tilly needs her nappy changed :wave:

The Fox

03-08-2009, 18:14

babeoneIKWYM about the house work etc, i feel sorry for DP as most days after i have looked after Oliver i dont have time or really cant be bothered with anything else, but i think it is allowed in the early stages at least

Nic:smiliedance: yay so glad you can finally join us, your daughter is so beautiful i saw the pics on FB what an amazing birth experience you had, how is everything going??

staceylee i feel you pain about the in laws, mine live 35mins away and she doesnt like to drive so when i say were not going because i dont want to pack my son into the car and lug him there in the cold then she makes my dp feel bad by claiming were cutting her out of his life and that she has a right to see him - well hello you can come over and see him in our warm house were he is comfortable, arrrrrrrgh i could go on forever, like how she just rocked up to the hospital and forced her way into the delivery room 10 mins after my son was born, argh cant believe she did that i was mortified and sooo angry, oh well

LukieHow long are you planning on using the nipple shields for. Im using mine on both sides now and i cant get him to latch on for more the 5 mins without it, he just writhes around so now im scared we will never be rid if it, i guess at least he is getting breastfed, im going to ask them at the BF clinic to help me wean him off them, although they have helped my nipples start healing and have shown me how breastfeeding is meant to feel like, i cant wait for the day were he can just latch on without them as easily as he does with them

AFM Oliver is getting weighed tomorrow :fingerscrossed: he has put on heaps of weight, his reflux is more manageable now that wwe have cut out dairy, although cutting out dairy is sooo hard, i swear there is less i can eat while BF then when i was pregnant, i cant even eat chocolate:(

Soon2B Mummy16

03-08-2009, 22:12

Hi everyone. Its been a couple weeks since I've had time to check in and post, but I have been reading the arrivals thread, this one, and the August thread back in the Due in July part. Trying to keep up, I never can, its been 9 months since I came here and I've been around for every monthly chat thing. I never ever keep up. I'm too slow lol.

CONGRATULATIONS to Nic, and everyone else who has recently had their little babies. Not many ladies left now, but hope its not much longer for them as well.

Tristen has been SO unsettled today. He's barely slept more than an hour or so. He's got a blocked nose :( He's 4 weeks old this thursday, a month old on sunday! Gone so fast. I try to forget his birth, I will never be doing it again thats for sure lol. So glad its all over and done, he's finally here.

He has blocked tear ducts, he was born with them. Has anyone else's babies got this? Does anyone know any remedies? My doctor told me to massage the inner part of his eye, but scared I might give him some germ, even if I scrub my hands or I'll hurt him, the doctor did it as an example... and my poor baby cried hysterically :(

Anyway, posted some pics and I am going to try to keep up this time lol.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2q19u07.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/scs4fr.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2ymet8n.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/so2ssw.jpg

Lukie

04-08-2009, 16:26

Kotakai- when you say "always" re: let down and leaking, you mean the whole time you were BF? Was it a little leak, or big wet patches if you didn't wear pads? I just don't want to always have to wear a bra or BF singlet... am looking for a ray of hope.

SammiAnn- you said you have a towel under you at night- does this mean you are able to sleep on your tummy? I'm a bit scared of squashing my boobies :o IKWYM about eating one handed- seems whenever I try to eat something B wakes up for a feed.

sandy- thanks, B is gorgeous! You should see her now she has grown a little, she's starting to smile a little and makes these funny faces (usually when she is pooping!). How is it going having your mum around?

staceylee- sorry to hear of your MIL story- thankfully mine is interstate so it's one less person i have to worry about. Don't worry about being a grumpy old lady- I'm with you although I'm only 24! (Have you seen that show on the ABC- Grumpy Old Women? I love it, I can SOOO relate!).

mich- you wanna hear something funny? My mum was over today and saying how she has to go home and make Andrew (my nephew) a ham sandwich before she picks him up from school. I said "Why don't you just take some of this banana bread?" and she says "Oh no, he asks me where's my ham sandwhich if I don't bring one." So I said "Well, you can't talk to me about B getting used to being carried etc, you have gotten Andrew used to having a ham sandwich after school- not to mention all the other ways you spoil him". She laughed and said "Well, I'll spoil B too". I feel more confident in doing whatever I want with B in front of my mum now, she really can't talk... I actually didn't want to put her in the sling earlier cos I know mum was coming over, but now I don't care, feel completely justified and she really can't give me a lecture about it given how she grandparents! And I totally agree- women in other countries carry their babies around all the time. A few hours in the day is nothing to fuss about... Must look at KMart for the pads- was at Big W yesterday and they didn't have any. Forgot to check the chemist.

Before I forget- what kind of wipes is everybody using??? We were given a box of huggies which were great but are so expensive. So I bought a pk of Curash, they were good, but I got them when they were on special, so when I bought another pk I got the ones from Aldi. I don't like these much, 5 wipes come out when I try to pull out just 1, plus they seem quite alcohol-ey. Any recommendations?

Nic- congratulations on the birth of Amaya Grace! Looking forward to hearing all about how you're going...

babeone- what are avent and rite aid disposables like? Saw Rite Aid at Big W, but have never seen Avent ones. I picked up a box of the You'll Love Coles brand yesterday cos they were cheap (40 for $5.40) and I go through so many, thought I'd alternate between a cheaper brand and the J&J, the coles ones are actually quite good. Also B has been feeding every 3 hours in the evenings lately. She'll have a 6pm, 9pm, 11pm, or maybe even a 10:30pm. Not sure if she's actually very hungry and waking for that reason, or what, but she wakes and I offer her boobie, and she takes it, so there we go. IKWYM about doing things around the house. It's an achievement if I can go to the toilet within an hour of when I actually intended to go, let alone do all the things I would normally do. But I am trying to just plan on one thing per day eg. vacuuming today, dusting tomorrow. Normally I'd be able to get heaps done in one day and do two major clean-ups in one week, but I think I'm doing ok given its early days.

cassii- at this stage I think I will use the nipple shields forever. I have tried B without them a few times this past week and she doesn't latch on, she licks at my nipple! I guess she has gotten used to the shield, and I don't have big nipples at all :o. It's not affecting my supply (as I read that can happen) and B is happy and feeding well so other than having to carry them around and wash them, and having to make B wait 30seconds while I get ready, there are no major issues with using them. The community nurse said she has known women to use them for 9months, the duration of their BF, and not have any probs. I agree, this is what Bf should feel like- it's enjoyable, no pain, no worries. Thank God for nipple shields!

Jazz- lovely pics of Tristen, thanks for sharing. Blocked tear ducts- does that mean he has sticky eyes? B has sticky eyes, though she gets teary so guess her tear ducts can't be blocked... anyway, try putting breastmilk and/or saline solution in there. B is getting better this way

AFM- Had a dream night! DH was back in bed with us and B barely made a sound. She grizzled a bit at 3am (wasn't awake but I figured it's close to her feed time so I put her to the breast and she fed and even burped without opening her eyes!!! And this happenned again at 6am- guess I've done my first dreamfeeds?). This meant I got decent sleep and got to cuddle up to DH who also slept (otherwise he would've gone to the couch). Hoping and praying for another night of the same- I feel so much happier and more rested given the night we had! :)

Ashdan

04-08-2009, 20:09

OK...so feel free to skip this post as it a vent about my incredibly crap day!

Cooper has been attached to a boob all day. Its now nearly 9pm and he has been awake since 1. He'd fall asleep either feeding or on my shoulder while I tried to burp him but as soon as I'd put him down he was grunted and crying. I even took him for a drive and wore him in the hugabub to try and get him into a comfortable sleep. I'm thinking maybe his is having a growth spurt and hungry. I'm also so frustrated that it is taking me so long to get a burp and his wind out that by the time I do, its time to feed again!

My 2 year old has also been so 'precious' today. He's been really emotional and clumsy. He fell on his arm getting of the couch this morning and was so worried about two of his fingers. They got a huge blood blister on them. I tried to ice them which he hated then rubbed his forehead as he was so warm from the screaming to reveal a huge bruise and egg to his forehead which he didn't complain about!

And as for DF...he again has gone off to football. His says he loves having something he can go off and do on his own. :hair: I can't even have a shower on my own at the moment without either Ashton banging on the door, wanting to get in with me or Cooper deciding that he needs feeding or wants to wake up right then.

OK...rant is over!

Lukie - I was using the Huggies newborns too. Cooper seemed to get a couple of tiny spots that almost looked like his skin had been burned so I stopped and am now using the nappy liners with water. No idea if it was the wipes or his constant poos that caused it. I did use the J&J's on Ashton and they seemed fine but are too thin and flimsy now he is older and I'd rather not be buying 2 types of wipes!

Soon2bMummy - Tristan is gorgeous! I love his hair. I thought Cooper had a lot :) Love the sleeping in the bath too.

Cassii - How did Oliver's weigh go? Glad to hear the reflux is more manageable. IKWYM with the breastfeeding diet too....I'm trying to be as boring as possible to see if affects Cooper.

Babeone - You've done more than me in the house! I'm sure DP understands and doesn't expect you to be doing everything! Keeping bub fed, changed and happy is your priority :hugs:

Nic - :smiliedance: You're here!!! Amaya is so beautiful. I love all of her hair and your son looks so proud of her in your pics.

Has anyone heard off/used Tizzie Hall's book..Save our Sleep. A friend recommended it and says her bub slept from 7-7 really early on. I had a quick read thru it as I promised I'd be tougher this time with feeding routines as Ashton is a terrible sleeper and I would still BF him through the night till after he turned 1.

Well I'm off for a couple of hours sleep (more please Cooper!!!) before its time to be up again.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

04-08-2009, 21:16

Hello everyone! Well I've finally had time to read a few pages of posts and now I can't remember them well enough to reply to. :doh: But at least I have some idea what is happening in here!

Quick update on us- Bub is doing really well, BFing is going well although I'm super engorged and sore tonight. Have blisters on both sides but they are healing now. I can't remember who recommended them (i think it was Cassiiii) but using the hydrogel nipple thingos and they are wonderful! :thumbsup:
Last visit by the DMC today and bubs has only lost 30g since she was born, they said they would allow up to 420g before they worried so pretty happy with that. Not surprised because all she does is eat all day!
She is refusing to sleep in her bassinette though and will wake after being put to sleep in there after only 10 mins or so. The only way I have been able to get her to sleep at night is to lie her next to me so I am holding her. But then I only sleep very lightly when she is like that so still feel tired and I don't move all night so my joints are sore! The midwife said it's Ok to do it (not ideal though) and that in the first few weeks most newborns won't sleep in their bassinettes and still need that connection to mum. And last night she managed to sleep from 2:30-7am this way, so if it works...
Have had criticism over it though, DH doesn't like it at all and when its his turn to hold her he sleeps propped up against the back of the bed while she sleeps on his chest. But I think he is accepting that for now having her in our bed is the only way she will sleep, so its that or noone sleeps. His mother has said a few things about it and she said 'But aren't you worried you'll roll over on her' and I said no, told her what the midwife had said...and she still said 'Oh well I'D be worried I'd roll over on her'. :hair: Made me cranky. What else does she expect us to do?? Is anyone else having issues with the bassinette thing?

Am going to try putting a piece of my clothing in her bassinette tonight and see if it helps, but if not she'll be lying next to me. :yes:

:hugs:Ashdan. Sorry you spent all day feeding and had a clingy toddler as well. Hope tomorrow is a better day for you!

OK, so here's some general replies to some topics I've seen!

Contraception: Midwife asked about it today. Haven't even thought about DTD and neither had DH, at the moment some sleep would be nice! I think I'll get some info on the nuvaring though, that way I can take it out if I don't like it. I don't trust the mini-pill and BF as have heard too many BFP stories!!

DH's going out: I must admit (although its only early days) DH has been very very good. He is currently playing Xbox but bub is asleep on his chest so I don't mind! He helps a lot with baths, and sleeping at night etc too. He has 5 weeks off work though, so if he was working I'd probably expect him not to be doing as much. He is constantly tired though and constantly telling me how tired he is even though he has way more sleep than I do!

Nappy wipe brands- I have 3 different brands as we were given them for baby showers etc. Ones a coles one, a huggies one, and a J&J one. Don't really have a preference at the moment though!

Nipple Shields- I haven't used them but my middie friend gave me some from the hospy for if I need them. Thinking I might need them on lefty soon as it's bleeding a little. Righty is doing pretty well though. Does anyone else find feeding easier on one side than the other? I can actually usually feed without any pain on the right side but the left always hurts for a few seconds. I'm getting more confident at just taking her off and trying again if it keeps hurting, as persisting was how I ended up really damaging them with DS.

Oh, before I forget heres a couple of bub pics.

Straight after birth (note blood on my foot!!)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2763848&l=44991b1bae&id=627190422

My fave pic (a little cleaner this time!)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2763880&l=83ca79ec16&id=627190422

Bath time
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2763882&l=759842fb64&id=627190422

kotakai

04-08-2009, 21:39

Congrats Jazz & Nic :smiliedance: Your bubs are both gorgeous :goodvibes:

Kotakai- when you say "always" re: let down and leaking, you mean the whole time you were BF? Was it a little leak, or big wet patches if you didn't wear pads? I just don't want to always have to wear a bra or BF singlet... am looking for a ray of hope.

Before I forget- what kind of wipes is everybody using???

Yeah, pretty much. It was worse with Chais than with Cruz. I had to always wear pads, & quite often change them multiple times a day. I hated wearing a bra 24/7 though, so every now & then I'd go to bed with nothing & just sleep on a towel. It was saturated in the morning, but I'd just do it the night before I was due to wash the sheets so it didn't matter. It felt so nice to sleep with no bra! Sorry I can't give you a ray of hope with my story, but that doesn't mean it will be the same for you.

With wipes, I also only use huggies. I can't stand the thin ones & you end up using more anyway, so they're not actually cheaper in the end. I buy the big box from big w, that has 2 of the large refill bags in it for $19. A girl at playgroup was saying she's seen a box at toys r us that has 2 of the boxes I buy in it (so 4 big refill bags) for about $35. Haven't had a chance to check yet, but that's a really good price if it's true. have you thought of using cloth wipes? I use those for a wee & use huggies for a poo or if I'm going out. You can buy actual cloth wipes, but I also just use face washers. Some people just use water, but I use a mix of water, bit of baby wash & a little bit of baby oil. This is a good combo for making sure it cleans well. Saves me a fortune :thumbsup:

The Fox

05-08-2009, 09:19

LukieYou know what your absolutely right, the nipple shields have helped bf and if it means my son can breastfeed then they are a godsend, i dont know why i feel so bad about using them but im not going to anymore, your right they only take about 30 seconds to put on and we have a great breastfeeding relationship now, i dont cringe when its feeding time and i actually enjoy it, i said to dp they are easier then the bottle so for that i should be grateful, im the same as you, its my anatomy that makes it hard to bf not Oliver, im still going to try and feed him without them but im not going to stress, i have also heard that after a couple of weeks or months some babies have just latched on perfectly because they are stronger and their mouths are bigger, maybe this will happen for me but if not who cares

Jazzyour son is adorable, im glad your doing well and you have lots of help

nicOliver has an amby natures nest hammock and he loves it, he sleeps so well in it, will only wake if he is hungry, i can even put him in it when he is not tired and he will be content, however the daytime is another story. We have a bassinet in the lounge and sometimes he will sleep in there others he will cry after 10 mins, the MCHN nurse told me to watch out for signs that he is tired, wrap him then put him down awake so he falls asleep on his own as opposed to me rocking him to sleep, so far it is the only way he will sleep properly but only if i put him down before he is over tired, once he is over tiredi have to hold him the whole time he is sleeping which can be 4 hours. She told me it is because they are only light sleepers and when you rock them to sleep your the last thing they see so when they stir they realise your not there and freak out, whereas if they fall asleep on their own there surroundings are the same as when they fell asleep, not sure how true this is but it really has worked for me, having said that though i think im the one with attachment issues not Oliver because i love holding him when he is sleeping and so i often do, i also have a peanut shell sling which he loves, i cant recommend them enough oh and its so much easier to do the food shopping with

AshdanI think it may be a growth spurt, Oliver did that at about 3 weeks and i swear he would eat, burp change his nappy chill out for 5 mins then eat again, its so hard but he got over it after 2 days :fingerscrossed: it gets better for you

AFM Well i think by the end of this month every single lactation consultant in every hospital will know me lol, im booked in to spend the day in the BF clinic again tomorrow, i really enjoyed it last time but i want some help weaning Oliver off the nipple shields i want to give it a good go and if it doesnt work at least i can still breastfeed him with them, Im also booked in to the breastfeeding clinic day stay at another hospital for 2 weeks time :o and im also booked in for a session at the MCH centre, so i think after all of that i can say i gave it a good go and if i still need the nipple shields after that then so be it,
ON another note, Oliver put on 280 grams this week, so he well and truly made up for the measly 70 grams he only managed last week, im pretty sure its because his reflux is under control now although i am no longer able to eat dairy except cheese i can have small amounts of cheese but meh ill live i dont hate soy milk anyway so its only a small price to pay although i rekon there is less food you can eat whilst breastfeeding then when you are pregnant, all i wanted when i was pregnant was an oreo mcflurry with caramel and well i cant even have one now, i guess ill never get to have one, at least my bum will thank me :)

flis

05-08-2009, 10:24

Hi Girls - super mamoth post - seems i only get random time to post and so i end up doing big ones! lol

Dream Feeds - Lukie I have just started to dream feed at about 9pm - before this she fed usually around 6pm and *generally* sleept till 11ish so i have been dreamfeeding her just before i go to bed to get a block of sleep in. Last night she actually woke at 8pm so i fed her and she slept till nearly 2am then after that feed she slept till 6.30am. was amazing the difference only one nighttime feed made! hopefully i can get her to do this some nights at least from now on! She's funny - she starts grunting and groaning between 30-60mins before a feed but still has her eyes closed and is not distressed (as opposed to when i dream feed her and she is totally asleep and feeds really well!). If i feed her then she isnt interested but i feel bad leaving her to grizzle until she eventually cries when i pick her up immediately and she then feeds well. Anyone else have this?

Burping - Ashdan I often take ages to burp L too - sometimes i think she hasnt got one and put her down and she ends up crying a little while later and eventually then burps. Anyone got any suggestions to get the burps out quicker? I have tried sitting her up and burping, over my shoulder, usually the easiest is laying her down for a minute then lifting her up over my shoulder and holding her upper back and she will then burp without patting even but sometimes i can be trying for 30 mins trying to get it out...

blocked tear duct - Jazz are you BF J? L had a blocked tear duct and the clinic nurse suggested a drop of breast milk in the eye (gross i know) but it worked within a day. otherwise, i bought some saline wipes called little eyes by fess and they seemed to work ok too.

Wipes - Lukie i have been using huggies unscented wipes and they have been pretty good so far.

save our sleep - Ashdan I have this book. popped it away when we arrived home as the newborn routines are based on 3 hrly feeds and L generally feeds 4hrly for most her feeds so felt a little unsure at the start how to adopt it. also it recommends a heap of expressing which i was not so keen on. i think the expressing stops abour week 6or8 so will try to get that routine going again then. though i think i might pull it out again for the sleep settling techniques as i recall they were good. ps sorry you had a bad day. give me an email or call (will email you my ph no) if you need a friend to get out with or come over darling :-)

bassinette - Nic hey welcome nic - so excited little miss Amaya has arrived! think your approach to pop somethign that smells like you into the bassinnette might help. i know friends who have done this. L is ok going down most of the time but if she wakes between a feed i struggle to get her back to sleep in there and generally hug and hold her till her feed or feed her again. am trying not to feed her all the time immed before a sleep as i think she is getting used to this and i am now finding it difficult to put her down say after her "play" rather than after a feed. PS we all had a 'difficult' boob at the start (and they seemed to swap sides too) so dont stress it should pass (we all had a bit of a discussion about it at the beginning ) ;-)

Cassiii - good luck at the clinics - you have totally got my attitude - get as much help as you can and if it still wont work then all is good - you have tried your best. and at the end of the day it is about a healthy mum and bub and sounds like the nipple shields are working so dont stress xxx

I am finding my boobs are really full in the middle of the night and mornings but seem very light on / soft by mid afternoon. i know they say your milk supply declines at this time of day but any suggestions? am thinking of getting some weleda bf tea or making those BF cookies from the BF section on BH... any suggestions girls?

also i find L is latching worse now than at the beginning - feel like she is lazy with her mouth opening sometimes and i cannot get her to get the full open 'special k' mouth all the time. is this ok? my boobs seem to be coping ok with this but wonder whether she gets all the milk she needs with a slacker mouth!

ok off to have some lunch and then to acupuncture to help my lazy pelvic floor (which after seeing the physio i def have a bit of an issue there and my bladder has fallen down a bit... am getting acupuncture and have got naturopathich herbs, doing PF exercises and seeing physio so hopefully all will sort itself out soon - fingers crossed).

Flis

Oh PS just to finish off my mammoth post - my name "Flis" is the nickname my DH had for me forever (no one other than you girls know it or call me this other than him!). He has now nicknamed L "Floss" so he can call us flis floss - which i think is a bit cute!!! lol

KiahsMum

05-08-2009, 10:46

For those with the energy or someone they can send in - THE TOYS R US HUGE BABY SALE STARTS TODAY! The catalogue is on their website. If you need anything it could be in there, a lot of stuff including nappies, wipes etc.

babeone

05-08-2009, 11:17

apologies for typing again tilly is feeding :)

Flis- no good bout the bladder etc.. was wondering what the outcome was as i was thinking of you last night when i felt like my insides were going to fall out my bum- is ok now but i was on my feet all day yest. im not back at docs till the 20th so have to wait till then. Very cute about your nicknames!!! Also with the grizzling before a feed but not being awake- Tilly does this all the time and i have found if i get her up when she starts she wont feed properly and then will be awake again soon after so i leave her now till she is fully awake. Tilly has also become a bit lazy when she feeds and will only half suck at times and i can pull my nipple out easily so she doesnt have proper suction. This equals more wind and if i dont get it all out she will be crying 10 mins after putting her down. I also have the same3 issue with soft boobs by midday- i have started drinking more water and eating more regualrly which has seemed to help but have heard fenugreek (i think tablets) is good and works within a day- have a look at the feeding- breastfeeding section.

Lukie- i use the curash wipes as like ashdan i found that she had some spots that looked like burns and at times just bad nappy rash when using the huggies which has gone since using the curash wipes but came back when i only had the huggies ones to use. As for the breast pads- i wouldnt rate the rite aid ones i got them as a present and so using them instead of buying more. Loved the avent ones as they were so comfy- i bought them from a chemist. They were expensive though- ok for me as i dont leak overly much but if you go through a lot i would probably buy a cheaper brand.

Kotokai- where can you buy cloth wipes? do you have your wipe solution made up for use??

nic- Tilly has been pretty good in her bassinette but there are occasions when she wont sleep in there and will only sleep in my arms. DP hasnt been too happy about it as he is worried about this causing bad habits but he too will hold her when she is having a grizzly time- its usually when she is overtired like cassii said. I must admit though i have stopped DP holding her on his chest like he was doing and like you said yours does as the other day i was watching a show on foxtel about a couple who like us was having bub in bed to get them to sleep for a bit and the partner fell aslepp with bub on his chest and it rolled off onto the floor :eek: so DP now lays the same way but holds her in between his arm and body and she is on her back. Do you swaddle her??? I found a tight swaddle is the only way she will sleep in her bassinette- she will sleep in her bouncer but if i move her unwrapped to her bassinette she will not stay in there so could try that too?! She also has one of those things that stop them moving /rolling over as she kept fidgeting so much she would end up over the side with her face in the side of the bassinette- this has helped her settle a bit too.

Ashdan: :hugs: bout DH going out for him time- i know exactly how you feel.. as for the constant feeding Tilly did this on sun and mon and was also awake all day and i was thinking oh great what has happened to my beautiful sleeping baby who feeds every 4 hours?? but yesterday and today she is back to normal so i think she was just going through a growth spurt. hopefully it will be back to normal in a few days. AS for save our sleep i found the routine was too strict and full on- you were either feeding or expressing all day. The book has some good ideas and info but i am sticking with demand feeding.

cassii- the hammock looks awesome!! how much did yours cost? good news about the weight gain and hopefully the BF clinics will help out with the shields :fingerscrossed:

cant remember if they were any other questions or things i wanted to reply too.
AFM: Tilly is currently asleep in her bouncer- put her lamaze wrist and feet finders on but dont tink she has any clue. She is 5 and a half weeks now and has started making more noises and focusing on faces- still no smile though, ive had lots of wind smiles but no real ones yet, im hoping it wont be long now. DP has started taking her in the shower with him and she loves it, also loves a deep bath with DP, think she is going to be a water baby. Went to the shops yesterday and put some things on layby at target in the toy sale for christmas, apparantly Big W has a sale on next week for toys too so will be going on the first or second day as i only got the leftovers at target and DP wants her to have lots of presents even though she will only be 5/6 months old he is soo excited- cute.

Felt a bit down last night as i still havent fully healed down there because of that sticth that fell out or whatever happened to it and i just want to DTD. It seems like so long since we could just do it without a massive belly or stiches but im thinking it will still be another week or two and i am ready now :laughing: poor DP!!!

Think thats all off to have a coffee and some breakfast while Tilly sleeps- so much to do today around the house and paperwork for DP cant be bothered. I cant see pics of those bubs on fb- would love to see them though if you can be bothered putting pics on bh. Anyway must add that i could not survive the nights of feeding without foxtel :)

staceylee

05-08-2009, 12:39

Hi girls!

I have a question for you all. Well I'm trying to get Miss Harper into some kind of routine. Atm she is feeding every 3hrs during the day and 4 to 6hrs at night (she is FF).

During the day Im not sure how long she is ment to be awake after feeds for playtime. I try to put her in her bed while she is still awake but that only works sometimes. In the day she likes to fall asleep on me the go into her bed and at night she goes into bed just before she falls asleep and we do dreamfeeds over night.
The last couple of days she has been feeding then sleeping and then waking before her next feed without much awake time. Is this normal? She is 3weeks old. What kind of routine should we be trying to get her into or should we just keeping going like we are?

Sorry for the me post and all the questions

sandy119120

05-08-2009, 12:48

Hi,

Nic- Wohooo gourgeous baby and lot of hair. I had the same problem i cant get Mia to sleep in her bassinet....she is the only one who actually got one :D and she doesnt want to sleep in it. She sleeps all night well she wakes up at 2 and then 6 am but she has to slep with me and over my arm...then she is happy(i admit im too). Not too worry coz she is in fect my last baby so i cant get enough of her.

Lukie - I can imagine those faces she makes :p. Is all soo good with them you would like time to go very slow. Mum is being a great help i couldnt imagine my life without her at this time.

Ashdan - A growth spurt, is not easy i used to ask my midwife if maybe my son wanst getting enough. Sorry about you 2 year old. How are you wirh the 2 yo and the baby. Mine is being a little bit naughty but the nurse said is pretty normal.

AFM - I cannot believe i'm probably having the worst time of my life....everything seem to go wrong. I going back to hospital tomorrow for an D&C i will get back here after i get out of hospital. I cant even talk about my birth experence maybe coz i didnt have have one...sorry...

KiahsMum

05-08-2009, 13:24

Staceylee - At 3 weeks it is hard to get them into any routine, I know some babies will fall into one early by themselves but most of the people we know said about 8-12 weeks was when the routine really kicked in. I think it was Sal who mentioned that report about babies not picking up habits until around 12 weeks? Same deal. Sarah is on 3 hour feeds due to her being a little bub (I wake her not demand feeding) during the day and I let her sleep through the night though she tends to have 4 hour feeds at night. She doesn't stay awake very long when she is up and the LC told me she should be up 1.5 hours in total with feed at the most otherwise they get overtired at this stage.

Ashdan - I sympathise! Kiah has been a handful lately! Mainly won't do as she is told and she has worked out I can't just get up when feeding so that is the main time she pushes it. She has been sooky as well. During feeds get her to come up on the couch with a book so I can read it to her, think a large part of the problem is she is bored. Has been inside for the last 3.5 weekswith me not able to drive or climb the park gym set with her. Planning to take her to the play centre next week when I can drive again.

Sandy - *HUGE HUGS* I am sorry to hear this time has been so bad for you. I know how bad it can be when your birth experience leaves you feeling empty and something you would rather forget. I am here when you are ready to talk about it. In the meantime take care of yourself and hope all goes well tomorrow. There is nothing for you to be sorry about!

Wipes - We use J&J. Started on huggies but had the same issue with them causing a rash type thing with DD1 so swapped to J&J and have been using them ever since. We get a box with 6 packets in it for $20 when on special at coles or big w.

AFM - Finding it interesting with two! Last night they were both crying as DD1 is cutting molars and has been in pain on and off with it. Thankfully hubby was still up and could help. He has tried to do an express feed for Sarah but she won't take the bottle properly so I am doing all the feeds, is very different to last time when I was expressing and DH did one feed a night so I could get more sleep. I think the most sleep I have had is about 5.5 hours in a night and I was so excited by that LOL.

Sarah has gained 400g from birth weight and is now 3kg so very happy with that, she is growing and apart from being awake for a large portion of each night is a really good baby. She gets wind easily which is a pain but compared to her big sister she is pretty easy to look after, DD1 was a lot harder at this age.

Ok lunch time and maybe a nap if they both stay asleep!

kotakai

05-08-2009, 13:55

Kotokai- where can you buy cloth wipes? do you have your wipe solution made up for use??

Lots of the online stores that sell cloth nappies sell them. If you google cloth wipes, you should find a few links. They really vary in price though, so shop around. If you can sew, they would be very easy to whip up on your own. Yeah, I just have one of those spray bottles you buy at the junk shops & have it made up in that. Makes it really easy.

AFM - I cannot believe i'm probably having the worst time of my life

big :hugs: for you

Ashdan

05-08-2009, 14:34

Just a quick post and will come back later. This ones for Flis about increasing milk.

I did the BF cookies with Ashton and they are great. I only used half the sugar and put in dried apricots and choc chips. I had to stop eating too many ans my milk went crazy.

Rolled oats are great too so you could try some porridge for breakfast.

Another herb you can try in Fenugreek. It says on the bottle its for relief of mucous congestion but the LC recommended it for us with Ashton and it worked too.

Good luck...will definitely have to catch up soon....Any other Gold Coast Mums keen

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

06-08-2009, 04:40

Just a quick question guys: How much/often does your bub vomit? Amaya vomits a small to moderate amount everytime she burps or feeds, but about an hour or so ago she projectile vomited up her entire feed... at least 150mls or so I'd guess, there was heaps of it. So then of course she wanted to eat again.... :hair:
Yesterday she did something similar but smaller vomits and fed almost continuously (other than 5 nappy changes in between) from 4am-10am, just would not fill up and kept wanting to eat but then would fall asleep and I'd either try and wake her for more or put her down to sleep to have her wake 5mins later. :hissy:

mini munchkin

06-08-2009, 06:29

Hi!
Nic, my DD used to do something similar to A. She wasn't bothered by it & I'd just feed her again. If you're worried have it checked out, we did & was great for the reassurance :)

As for sleeping-getting them to sleep & where they're sleeping...K is with me, in my arm or on my tummy. I have a amby hammock which is in our room, but haven't really used it yet. I co-slept with DD & loved it, it's great this time too. Not thinking bout routine yet, my thoughts are he's too little. Just going with the flow, but watching for signs of needing routine etc I'm already noticing he's easily over stimulated, but he's happy to settle if he's had a big cuddle & then I put him down.

Thinking of you Sandy xx

We use a combination of wipes, huggies out n about, curash in my room (lazy in middle of night) & cloth during the day! We made them with DD & they're just great, we just use warm water. Oh meant to say too, putting a little olive oil on their bots after each change is a great rash preventative!

AFM-Sleep is going well here, except I'm going to bed too late :( work is good, K is really good. We're buying a house at the moment, so I'm slightly stressed with that, but hopefully will be all good. DD is having a sleep over at her Granny's this Fri. Really looking forward to a Sat sleep in! Maybe if I feel well enough we can attempt to DTD?...

Time to get breakfast! Have a great day ladies xx

babeone

06-08-2009, 09:36

morning ladies :wave: it is so quiet in here...

Nic- Tilly will usually have a small vomit after a feed, and she has done a few projectile vomits which i was concerned about but it has only happened maybe twice not sure what causes it but she seems fine.

sandy- good luck today- hope your feeling better soon :hugs:

AFM; did my first dreamfeed last night :smiliedance: fed her at 10pm (last feed before that was 7pm) and she slept through till 1.45am- very happy with that. Ill definately try it again tonight).

Well off to have breakfast. BBL to check if there has been some more activity in here :D

SammiAnn

06-08-2009, 10:55

Morning girls,

Nic - Congratulations! Your daughter is just gorgeous :bee:. She definitely looks like a 'knowing' little one. I can sympathise with the bassinette thing. Alex was like that for the few few weeks, I'd keep perserving and gradually he started spending more and more time in there. I was told the same thing by a midwife with DD1, she said there were very few cases of a healthy mother (ie no drinking, smoking, drug use etc) rolling on their bub. I was always wary of DH though. Alex now spends the whole night in his bed though I am exceptionally naughty and he is a tummy sleeper shhh... I know it's a no-no but all three of mine have slept better on their bellies. I'd never recommend it to others for fear of what could happen but it has helped mine with wind pains and settling (they don't startle themselves so much when their arms fail around). Here's hopeing she'll settle for you soon and love having your smell in her bed.

Lukie - I wish I could sleep on my tummy! I'm a tummy sleeper and have been missing it majorly (I worry about squishing them and it affecting supply :o, don't know if it's unfounded though). I find I leak more if I lay on my side, so that's why I use the towel. Hope all is well with you and bubba.

ON another note, Oliver put on 280 grams this week.

Yay for a growing boy! Well done Mum! Best of luck with your BF meetings.

He has now nicknamed L "Floss" so he can call us flis floss - which i think is a bit cute!!! lol

That is adorable! So glad you're doing well.

Felt a bit down last night as i still havent fully healed down there because of that sticth that fell out or whatever happened to it and i just want to DTD. It seems like so long since we could just do it without a massive belly or stiches but im thinking it will still be another week or two and i am ready now poor DP!!!

Yay for Tilly enjoying the shower! Alex loves the shower with Daddy, I have a gorgeous pic of him on DHs chest with the water drops splashing over his face, he has his eyes closed and looks like he's in water-heaven! Sending lots of fast healing :goodvibes:. Maybe give it a try using different positions??? Good luck hun.

Well done on your dreamfeed!!!

I have a question for you all. Well I'm trying to get Miss Harper into some kind of routine. Atm she is feeding every 3hrs during the day and 4 to 6hrs at night.

Hey hun :wave:. About four weeks we started changing Alex's nappy as soon as he woke then talked to him for a bit before he got grizzly and gave him his next feed. Gradually his awake time if getting longer and now he can see more he's happier to stay awake. Best of luck hun!

I cannot believe i'm probably having the worst time of my life....everything seem to go wrong.

Many, MANY :hugs: for you Sandy. I really hope things begin to improve massively for you soon darl. How are things with your little one?

Sarah has gained 400g from birth weight and is now 3kg so very happy with that, she is growing and apart from being awake for a large portion of each night is a really good baby. She gets wind easily which is a pain but compared to her big sister she is pretty easy to look after, DD1 was a lot harder at this age.

Great advice about routines there! Yay for Sarah's gain, well done bub and Mum. Hope you got that sleep you were hoping for.

I did the BF cookies with Ashton and they are great. I only used half the sugar and put in dried apricots and choc chips. I had to stop eating too many ans my milk went crazy.

I second those biscuits. I've made them twice now, first as the recipe the second time I added apricots and toasted macadamias, so yummy!

Apologies to those I've missed, Alex has woken and is demanding attenion!!!

Have a lovely afternoon.

Sam :flowerz:

flis

06-08-2009, 10:57

Hi Girls

Hugs to Sandy - I hope you have some support darling...

Babeone thanks for your concern. My acup appt went well. I really feel like she will help - she has treated other women in the past for this. She is lifting my 'chi' and hopefully this will lift all my organs and bits up! One thing she mentioned was often prolapse is associated with depression (which i have been feeling a bit of since i felt like my insides are falling out wondering whether i caused this and what the implications long term will be etc) so girls if any of you feel like this maybe check out an acupuncturist too. will keep you posted.

re my BF - i havent taken anything but this morning my boobs have been so full and squirting (when they used to only drip) i dont think i can now take anything bc poor L will be covered moreso in milk of a morning/night! think i will just have to keep my eye on it and eat a bit more during the day to see if that helps.

anyway, so quiet in here - amazing how having newborns can trim down the postings!

off to have some lunch while L is sleeping.

PS i am a bit sad today - due to L's loud grunting DH gave her to her 1 month birthday (today) till we are moving her to her own room. I am so sad about it but I too am desperate for some quiet sleep... hoping i wont be too nervous tonight. have moved the bassinnette today and she is sleeping well in there so hopefully tonight will go well.

Lukie

06-08-2009, 15:32

Ok, so much to respond to, I read yesterday but didn't have a chance to post so I will try to remember issues that were raised:

Bassinette/co-sleeping: I have no idea what the go is with this... B went for 2 days happily sleeping in her cradle both day and night, then the third day would wake 30mins after being put in her cradle, so I'd put her to sleep, put her in her cradle and have the same thing happen... I ended up wearing her during the day and sleeping with her at night. Last night I put a muslin on my pillow, a blanket underneath me and co slept with her. Ended up with BM on the blanket as I knew we would, and all over my top, so I put both of these on her cradle sheet and she is sleeping in there now! She's been down for 2 hrs and I'm stoked to have had a cup of tea!!! (I'm scared to drink hot drink with her in the sling.) NIc, i hope this works for you too. My DH wasn't a fan of co-sleeping as he was scared of rolling on her, but I have her on my side of the bed and (when he sleeps with us) DH is fine with it now. IKWYM about sore/stiff joints! I just want to stretch out, sleep on my back, turn over, etc. but can't when B is with me in bed, that's why I'd rather have her in her cradle.

vomit- B has only vomitted twice since she was born, lucky that way.

flis- IKWYM about the grunting. B has started making noises in her sleep, nothing I can do to quiet her seeing as she's sleeping. DH took to the couch again last night because of it. We're going to keep her with us (or me rather) for at least 3 months though, partly due to the night feeds, partly due to the cold, partly cos she's so little. I really feel for you. :hugs:

mich- does K sleep on his tummy on you, while you sleep I mean? I wondered if it was ok to do that, cos sometimes when B has wind pain she falls asleep on her tummy on me, but I didn't know if it was ok for me to sleep as well so I stay up as long as I can and then put her down, but she cries not long after that. Would be great if I can sleep too. Any official word on it?

Kiahsmum-great about Sarah's weight gain! I find B gets wind all the time too- what's the cause, do you know? She gets hiccoughs about 3 times a day- does that contribute? And she doesn't always burp either.

Burping- can't remember who asked about this- but I also find sometimes it takes forever to get a burp out of B. Midwife said to give it 10 mins at the outside, and if no burp then don't worry about it.

sandy- so sorry you have to go back to hospy. Hope all will be well after the procedure. Sending you hugs.

staceylee- the chart I have from tehe Tresilian centre says for a newborn to 4 week old it should be 1hr up for 2-3hrs down, and for a 4-12week old 1.5hrs up. I find B gets tired by the end of that hour even if she's been asleep for longer than 3 hrs, so I try to keep it to 1 hr, not to mention I am so sleep deprived most of the time that I want her to go back to sleep asap!

Can't see back any further, so apologies to those I've missed, I'm sure there were other things I meant to comment on but I can't remember.

AFM- just a quick note cos B is starting to grizzle. Have been reading about EC (elimination communication) cos it was so obvious to us from the beginning that B wants to poo and wee once her nappy is off and I know most of her signs now (eg. she comes off the breast and thrashes around when she wants to do a poo, also she wakes up about 20mins after her morning feed makes noises) so this morning I held her over a flannel the way the book showed and I caught one wee !!!!! And then an hour later another wee and a poo!!! I was so excited! Anyone else interested in or thinking of doing EC?

Sassy75

06-08-2009, 16:35

Hi ladies...

Thought it was about time I made an appearance in here!! It is now day 5 & I have taken a while to find my feet after the unscheduled c/s. Emotionally I am fine even tho it was not the birth I had planned, but physically I am really feeling it. C/S really do take a toll on your body. I do not know how I would be coping if DF was not home for 2 weeks. When AJ cries in the night he jumps out of bed because it takes me a good 5 mins to get my body out of bed.

I discharged myself a day early from hospital because I was completely stressed out in that environment. Not sure how many of you have given birth in large public hospitals, but as much as the labour & birth care was awesome (especially as my birthing experience was 360 degrees from what I expected), I found the whole post-birth experience very traumatic. Sharing a room with 4 other women with snoring, groans, grunts, mobile phones and their babies cries, up to 60-70 other babies on the same floor crying at any given time, lights turned on when you have just drifted off to sleep, midwives talking loudly in the hallway at any time of the day or night, buzzers continually ringing as they are short staffed, midwives groping at your breasts and offering different techniques to feed each shift, trying to get out of bed to a screaming baby when still recovering yourself etc etc. And don't get me started on the food!!!

Anyway, I had had enough so I requested to go home early which they were happy with at first. I was all set to go home (DF had arrived all excited with the capsule) and one of my least favourite midwives came and told me that baby had lost more weight and was now at 10% so I could not go home. Well I lost it. I said I am not feeding him properly because of the stress of this place!!! I was really struggling to feed him in there with all the pressure and as I was still recovering myself it was agony to lift and manouevre such a large baby. I got treated like a criminal for wanting to leave. I had 3 different interrogations by different doctors, paedetricians and midwives. I had to sign a form saying I was leaving against medical advice.

I have now been home 2 days and it was the best decision I made. I have had 2 home visits from midwives and some great one on one advice. AJ has now put on 120g in 2 days and is doing great. Let's face it...the little buddha had almost 3 pnds on most other babies in there so there was no need for the drama :laughing:

I was told he needed 88mls every 3hrs of BM. He is a tad lazy when it comes to the boob though so I have had to EBM after each feed to keep my supply up and keep him topped up. I am getting 100ml every time I express. He needs to be very awake to latch on and feed or else he just has a few sucks and falls asleep. Tonight he fed for 30 mins on my left breast tho but for some reason hates the right one!!!

Apart from that, I am totally besotted and in love. I just can't get enough of him. The whole ordeal of labour and induction was so worth it to have our little man in our life. I just want to eat him up and sometimes lose track of time just staring at him.

I'm sure I will be in here as often as I can as I have so many questions. My head is still a bit scrambled at the moment and I am sooo tired so excuse no personals. I look forward to catching up with all you awesome July mummies much more often :)

Ashdan

06-08-2009, 17:59

Hi Girls....

I have a new best friend! DF went shopping today and came home with a Fisher Price Swing for Cooper. He loves it. I'm so stoked that I got dinner made, caught up on the washing and folding and had some much needed one on one time with Ashton while he slept in it. At the same time tho, I am paranoid that he will get used to swinging.

Sammi - Must admit too that last night as Cooper wouldn't settle, I put him onhis tummy and he slept so well.

Flis - Hope you have a great nights sleep. Cooper is a grunter and if I had a spare room at the moment, he'd be in it.

C has just woken....better go feed

dbdb

06-08-2009, 18:15

Hi! Just a quick post for now as I am typing 1 handed on my iPhone! (feeding - these phones are great for being in the net while feeding!)

Just wanted to suggest using sorbolene for cleaning bottoms. I was using wipes and she was getting rashes, I now use tissues with pump pack sorbolene/glycerin and gave had no rashes since! Leaves her botty soft and not wet. Much cheaper too. I saw the idea in Baby Love. I still use wipes when we are out.

Interstate this week visiting family so hub is back to 3-4 hour sleeps at night after sleeping for 6 hours for 2 nights! (now 8 weeks old) Bur she seems to know the difference between night and day now, she wakes up, feeds for 15-20 mins then is back asleep, yay!

Sassy75

06-08-2009, 18:34

I forgot to add my photo link:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=111519&id=670085753&l=6e8c7f003d

babycart

07-08-2009, 08:10

Hi everyone

I don't have time for too many personals - had a quick read of the last page:

co-sleeping - trying to avoid it, but have brought Sophie into bed with me a couple of times - they say to not put bubs between the two adults, but to keep him/her to the one side. I try to keep all my bedding clear of her so she doesn't get covered. The last 2 nights, Sophie has settled back into craddle and I went back to sleep in my own bed with DH

Babywipes - I'm using the huggies ones, we haven't had any nappy rash, but i have thought that the wipe leaves her skin wet...should I pat dry with a tissue or something???

I need some help with nipple shields - can anyone recommend a good brand???

Sophie has just been monstering one of my nipples - who knew you could get worse at breastfeeding :( I've been to the council breastfeeding clinic and my attachment looks pretty good, but it is agony when she latches and everytime she sucks, she is grating over a ridge/crack - no blood yet, but i think it is just a matter of time...

ok - gotta go, Sophie-pie just ok up and want's some breakfast

try to talk again soon - take care and get some sleep

AC

staceylee

07-08-2009, 11:28

Hello everyone!!

Well Miss Harper is now fully a FF baby. A little sad about it but we seem to be coping better and are much happier. DH can see the change in us both and is very happy we went this way.

Babycart - I was Avent shields while I was BF Harper and also had some tommee teppee(sp) ones but liked the Avent ones much better.

dbdb - I hope your having a nice time visiting family.

Ashdan - Harper loves her swing too. Im worried about the same thing but it is so good to get things done!

Sassy - Sorry to hear your hospital stay wasnt very nice. Your little guy is sooooooooooooo cute!!!

mini munchkin - Good luck with the house!!

Well I have fallen in love with my Bubba Moe sling!! It is soo good! Harper really loves it. We even went down the street for the first time on our own!!

Still having a little trouble with the C-sect scar. Very sore and sensitive to touch plus just above that and just below another scar is all numb. Will ask the doctor about it when we have our visit.

Harper has been sleeping for between 6-8hrs a night. I asked out CYH nurse about it and she said thats fine she will just make up for the missed feeds during the day which she has been. Also she is putting on good weight so that helps to as I dont need to wake her to feed her at night.

Sandy - I really hope everything went well for you and you are feeling better and things get better for you!! Huge :hugs: to you!!! Take care hun

sandy119120

07-08-2009, 12:58

hi to all mums,

thank you for you support, i had the D&C yesterday hopefully they did got it right this time around and nothing was left behind this time; after 15 days of pain i dont want anymore and i want to be able to enjoy my baby.
mia is on antibiotic for a suspected urine infection i dont think she has one coz was pretty hard to take a clean urine example from her. But pediatri wants to be on the safe side =(. She looks very happy and eating very well.

Hospitals - dont like them very much at the moment. but i was in a public with private room so thast wasnt that bad. tha is why i choose that hospy i didnt want to be in a room with 4 more people. Is a private moment you want some peace.

Stacy - harper is doing great 6 hours sleep is wonderful. Mia is eating only twice a night she is already over her birth weight so i think your nurse is right. And you getting a nice sleep =). With my second son they said to me to wake him up and take cloths off him coz he needed to eat but at the end i was tired he was tired and i was very stress becouse my lack of sleep. Sorry about you scar. Hope it gets better.

Sassy - i know is harder to recover from a c/s hope it gets better quickly hun. take care of yourself. Do you have any help?

flis - how last night went?

casii- well done!!! 280grms pu on is great.

Kiash mum- Sarah is doing great.. well done mum for her putting that much weight =).

OK this is as far as i got bub has woken up and is demanding feed =).

take care.

SammiAnn

07-08-2009, 13:41

Afternoon lovely Mummies,

have moved the bassinnette today and she is sleeping well in there so hopefully tonight will go well.

Lots of (((hugs))) honey. How did she and you go last night? I'll admit I've been eager for our girls to go into their own rooms early because of their snuffling and fluffing but it will be had to move Alex out after everything with his little nose. Hope everything went well and you all sleep soundly.

I wondered if it was ok to do that, cos sometimes when B has wind pain she falls asleep on her tummy on me, but I didn't know if it was ok for me to sleep as well so I stay up as long as I can and then put her down, but she cries not long after that. Would be great if I can sleep too. Any official word on it?

Hey hun! Not sure if you read my post to Nic on the page before but so far all of my bubs have been tummy sleepers in their beds. It's definitely not recommended by professionals with the very real concern of SIDs. I had one older midwife suggest it to me with DD1 to help with wind (before I found a great wind mixture). The way she explained it was put your own face in a matress, you can still breathe because of the nose. But again, I must stress, I do not suggest anyone sleep their bub on their tummy because of risks. I hope that all makes sense to you??? My brain is a little fuzzy today :confused:.

I have now been home 2 days and it was the best decision I made. I have had 2 home visits from midwives and some great one on one advice. AJ has now put on 120g in 2 days and is doing great. Let's face it...the little buddha had almost 3 pnds on most other babies in there so there was no need for the drama

Lovely to 'see' you again. Congratulations on your little man. I'm sorry you had a tough time in hospital but am so glad you are doing excellent at home, what a great Mummy you are. And thank you for sharing Archie's pics, he is gorgeous, such a little man already!!!

Sammi - Must admit too that last night as Cooper wouldn't settle, I put him onhis tummy and he slept so well.

:smiliedance: for him and you having a good sleep! Crossing my fingers all continues well.

Just wanted to suggest using sorbolene for cleaning bottoms. I was using wipes and she was getting rashes, I now use tissues with pump pack sorbolene/glycerin and gave had no rashes since! Leaves her botty soft and not wet. Much cheaper too. I saw the idea in Baby Love. I still use wipes when we are out.

Sounds like bub is doing very well, especially being away from home. I'm going to steal your wipes idea too, sounds great, thank you for sharing.

The last 2 nights, Sophie has settled back into craddle and I went back to sleep in my own bed with DH

Yay for getting back in your bed sans bub! I don't have any tips for your poor nipples though, I really hope you find a solution soon to give you some peace :hugs:.

Well Miss Harper is now fully a FF baby. A little sad about it but we seem to be coping better and are much happier. DH can see the change in us both and is very happy we went this way.

:yelclap: well done Staceylee, so glad you and Harper are doing so well with FF, definitely the right decision for you girls, so proud of you hun. As for your scar, mine was really numb for ages after my first C/S, about the first six months (I think???). This time (third C/S) the feeling has been back for ages. Definitely check with your care providor though if you're worried.

OK this is as far as i got bub has woken up and is demanding feed =).

So glad to see you back hun, sending you lots of :goodvibes: for a speedy recovery for yourself and little Mia. Take care darl.

Hope everyone is doing well with contented bubs, how could they not be, they are all SOOOO adorable!!!

Had the phonecall from the ENT specialist and Alex has no permanent blockages in either nasal passage, so super excited he won't need ANY surgery!!!!!!! Just have to keep up with the saline and suctioning him out until it settles but he'll always have issues as his tubes are very narrow, going to dread cold season even more with this bub!

More packing boxes arrived today so I'd best get a wriggle on with packing, last thing I feel like doing once bub is down and the girls are at school/kindy or are occupied.

Have a great evening girls.

Sam :flowerz:

Sassy75

07-08-2009, 13:42

Hi gals,

Sandy - :fingerscrossed: for you that you are over the worst of things now. Thinking of you.

I have about 10 mins before I have to feed again.

Quick BF question - Archie is now 6 days old. He seems to sleep for Australia since we got him home apart from the first 2 nights where he grizzled. Last night he slept for 6 hrs and I woke up with engorged boobs!! Is this normal at this age? I hate to wake him as he is so drowsy and he is not interested in the breast so then I need to express. I am afraid that since I have been feeding him EBM from a bottle that he will now not take the breast as he wants a quick supply and gets frustrated when it doesn't come out so fast. He seems to suck for a few minutes then gets grizzly and has a hissy fit. Yet he will take the bottle.

His attachment is fine, he just doesn't seem interested sometimes. I can get him to drain one breast maybe every 3rd feed.

Archie loves his swing as well.

Re partner support - I would be lost without my DF. Because I have been recovering from my c/s he gets up for every night feed or cry and lets me get settled to try to BF him. If he won't take the boob, he gives him EBM in a bottle and lets me express. So really we are both up, but he has been doing everything around the house and does not let me lift a finger. I am a little scared about how I will cope when he goes back to work!!

flis

07-08-2009, 14:52

hi girls super quick from me as i have visitors.

thanks for your support re last night. went well i slept like a log and only woke when L cried rather than when she started to grunt. she woke at 1 and 6am so was nice to get a few hrs sleep uninterrupted but feel more exhausted today than normal - weird.

be back tomorrow xxx

JuzP

07-08-2009, 15:03

SammiAnn - you mention in your post that you found a great wind mixture - any advice would be most appreciated as our little man is very windy and spends alot of time clearly in discomfort and crying in pain, no matter how much we burp him during and after feeds. Thanks

SammiAnn

07-08-2009, 15:19

Me again!

Quick BF question - Archie is now 6 days old. He seems to sleep for Australia since we got him home apart from the first 2 nights where he grizzled. Last night he slept for 6 hrs and I woke up with engorged boobs!! Is this normal at this age?

:wave:, I'm sure others with have some great advice, all I can say is it sounds how Alex was when he arrived. Cos he was smaller I was told to wake him to feed every three hours and I'd have to keep waking him during feeding as he'd tire easily being tiny. I'd be inclined to think that it would be kinda similar with your bubba. Though he is bigger he'll tire too, it requires much more effort to get milk from the breast than the bottle but once he gets more and more used to the breast your let down will increase with his demand. My flow was slow to begin with but now Alex is stronger and has fed lots (TONNES!!!) more it's fast and he fills up very fast. I'd keep doing what you're doing but maybe try and hold off expressing so he gets the flow he wants from you. Hope that makes sense and feel free to ignore if you want hun, different courses for different horses! (not that I'm calling you a horse ;)!). Best of luck hun.

thanks for your support re last night. went well i slept like a log and only woke when L cried rather than when she started to grunt. she woke at 1 and 6am so was nice to get a few hrs sleep uninterrupted but feel more exhausted today than normal - weird.

:yelclap: Louka!!! Way to go girl!!! Well done Flis, so glad you both slept well. I'm sure you feel exhausted 'cos you got more sleep than usual, you have a few hours to catch up on!

Thought I'd add a couple of new pics of my chubba:

Poking tongue (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/SammiAnn_80/Baby/August002.jpg)
"How YOU doin'???" (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/SammiAnn_80/Baby/August003.jpg)
Little 'Emo' boy (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/SammiAnn_80/Baby/August005.jpg)
Snuggled up (http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/SammiAnn_80/Baby/August006.jpg)

I'll be brave and put up a pic of DH and myself with bub later. Seeing as you lovely girls have shared your faces I'll 'suck it up' and put one out there, hope you're all feeling brave to witness it :laughing:!

Sam :sunshine:

PS Have PM'd you JuzP :thumbsup:.

Blonde Assassin

07-08-2009, 18:51

Hi everyone!

I'm glad to read all about your sleeping, feeding & growing bubs!! My boy has put on 478 grams in 2 weeks so he's doing VERY well :laughing: Won't be long till he's out of the newborn nappies! Thankfully we didn't buy too many!!

Has anyone else been getting conflicting advice from their various MCHNs?!

I'm totally confused :confused:

We have been feeding our boy who currently weighs 4.5kgs anywhere between 150 - 220ml because we were originally told to feed him till he can't have anymore, but we just got told that's too much for a 4 week old & he should have only between 120 - 150ml....I just don't want him to lose any weight!!

Then we were told to do "tummy time" before a feed so he's got some energy, but that's wrong too (apparently!) & we should do it after a feed before we put him down to sleep...
What type of routine are you all trying at the moment? I'd love to hear what you've been told & more importantly, what you've found works!

KiahsMum

07-08-2009, 19:03

Sammi - Would love the name of the wind mixture, about to go postal here so all advice and suggestions welcome!!

Emz16 - The routine I was told was feed, play, sleep. We changed this to Play, Feed, Sleep with DD1 only because she had reflux and if she did tummy time after a feed she would throw it all up and then scream in pain for hours. I would have thought playing after sleep was better in that if they play before they get tired and then still need the energy to feed... this is why I miss my old MCHN, only one nurse so only one set of advice. If FF I know the tins usually say the amounts based on age, with BF this is harder (sorry can't remember which way you feed! sorry!) and they usually take what they need. The recommendation is gaining at least 150g a week so obviously he is doing well so don't think losing weight will be an issue, thing is if he is happily eating more he might still be hungry with less, would let your gut instinct guide you, no one knows your baby like you do. If really worried ask your GP.

Ashdan

07-08-2009, 20:20

Hi :wave:
It's Friday again and I have no idea where the week has gone.

We've just gotten back from the docs with DS1. He has tonsilitis again with temps over 39.5 and panadol and nurofen are not bringing it down. Poor thing is so tired, hot and lethargic. Fingers crossed C doesn't get it. I've made sure they have been pretty separate today but A has been in C's face constantly since he was born! He's had ot 3 times already this year and doc is suggesting we look into having them taken out.

Then we were told to do "tummy time" before a feed so he's got some energy, but that's wrong too (apparently!) & we should do it after a feed before we put him down to sleep...
What type of routine are you all trying at the moment? I'd love to hear what you've been told & more importantly, what you've found works!

I think we'll always get conflicting advice....it seems they all have different ideas. I've learnt with DS1 to listen but do what works for you. We're doing a play, feed, sleep routine. I tried feed then play but C just ended up vomitting most of his feed back up.

hi girls super quick from me as i have visitors.

thanks for your support re last night. went well i slept like a log and only woke when L cried rather than when she started to grunt. she woke at 1 and 6am so was nice to get a few hrs sleep uninterrupted but feel more exhausted today than normal - weird.

be back tomorrow xxx

Yay for sleep :smiliedance:I was up from 1am this morning feeding, burping, settling.

[QUOTE=Sassy75;3973193]

Quick BF question - Archie is now 6 days old. He seems to sleep for Australia since we got him home apart from the first 2 nights where he grizzled. Last night he slept for 6 hrs and I woke up with engorged boobs!! Is this normal at this age? I hate to wake him as he is so drowsy and he is not interested in the breast so then I need to express. I am afraid that since I have been feeding him EBM from a bottle that he will now not take the breast as he wants a quick supply and gets frustrated when it doesn't come out so fast. He seems to suck for a few minutes then gets grizzly and has a hissy fit. Yet he will take the bottle.

I was still engorged a week after having C. I rang the ABA and they said that its normal and recomended filling nappies with water, freezing the and putting on boobs for some relief. They were the perfect size. They said it can take 6-8 weeks for your boobs to work out how much to make.

C is the same if he doesn't drain one side properly and I feed off it again at the next feed and it is quite engorged. He is fussy tho because when it lets down, the milk flows so quick that its almost like its choking him. I now express this side (the one I seem to feed him off easier) for a couple of mins after it lets down and he will then feed fine from so much better. Could this be the same for Archie? Maybe if he guzzles from the bottle, you could try a teat with a slower, smaller hole for him to get used to getting his milk slower and keep trying the breast. Good on you tho for expressing. I did it for 6 weeks with DS1 till his tongue tie was fixed and its hard work organising everything to express, actually expressing and then feeding bubs.

danemwalker

08-08-2009, 09:11

wow so many new mummys.

I had my bubba on july 10 - baby boy called Cash...(10 days overdue - medically induced - great labour)

Hate to say it but he is amazing. he is 4 weeks old and sleeping like a champ. at night 5 hours, quick feed then back for at least 4 hours...

Being a mum is so much easier than i thought to be honest. I had so many bad stories and everyone warning about NO sleep and fights with your partner but maybe because he is a good baby - its been so great.

No one told me the LOVE LOVE LOVE feeling you get in the weeks following. me and my partner were so loved up it was like we were on drugs...

anyway can easily say Ive never been happier - its awesome - (even if my right boob aches and i could do with more sleep)

Congrats to everyone else !!!! XX

Lukie

08-08-2009, 12:17

hi girls, just a quickie while i feed B:

sammi- i did read your post re tummy sleeping but wondered if theres a difference between putting them to sleep that way in their bed, and having them sleep on tummy on you? maybe cos our chest is not so soft as matress?

babycart- get a nipple shield asap! it will save your nipples and might be the diffrence between continuing BF and not- this is what the shields meant for me! middie recommended the large size in medela, said these are best, so i got these.

emz- middie at hospy said do tummy time 3 times a day!!! i found this impossible so asked middie that visited at home, she said its not a priority right now and more important to talk to her. lie her on your chest once a day if you wanna give her tummy time equivalent, she said.

gotta go, B needs to get back to sleep. BBL.

staceylee

08-08-2009, 15:27

Hi Girls quick one from me as the ILs will be here soon.

Lukie - Glad to her the thing about tummy time. Ive been trying to get to have tummy time on her mat but doesnt like it but is happy to have tummy time on me.

Harper sometimes sleeps on my chest after a feed but I make sure I am sitting up as the SIDS&KIDS website or one of their fliers says having them sleep on your chest while you are laying flat is like them sleeping on their belly in their beds and has the same kind of risks as well as them rolling off. Dont know if that helps anyone.

farmers

08-08-2009, 15:52

SammiAnn,

I would love to know what your great wind mixture is as I'm I have tried a few different things and we can't seem to get any relief from them.

Thanks

SammiAnn

08-08-2009, 18:44

Evening girls,

My boy has put on 478 grams in 2 weeks so he's doing VERY well.

:smiliedance: little man! And well done Mummy, so glad you're both doing well.

Sammi - Would love the name of the wind mixture, about to go postal here so all advice and suggestions welcome!!

Done and done (PM'd you), hope it's of help to you.

We've just gotten back from the docs with DS1.

Many :hugs: for you and DS1 hun. I hope her improves fast for both your sakes.

I had my bubba on july 10 - baby boy called Cash.

Congratulations!!! I think it's wonderful that you and your partner are so in love with your boy, sounds wonderful. Gotta love those endorphins!

sammi- i did read your post re tummy sleeping but wondered if theres a difference between putting them to sleep that way in their bed, and having them sleep on tummy on you? maybe cos our chest is not so soft as matress?

Cool, sorry hun, wasn't sure if you saw it :o. I would imagine them on your chest would be the better option as they are so close to you that you'd notice any problems. Also, Staceylees info makes sense too. I started tummy sleeping mine as I noticed they'd be unsettle being put down after falling alseep on my shoulder cos of the pressure on their chest being removed. Hope that makes sense??? Gees my brain feels like cottage cheese today! How is Miss B going? Enjoying those cuddles I bet.

Hi Girls quick one from me as the ILs will be here soon.

Hope your visit went well. Have to ask is that a pic of Harper 'milk drunk' in your AV? So cute!!! I love when they look like "Ugh, can't drink any more!".

SammiAnn,

I would love to know what your great wind mixture is as I'm I have tried a few different things and we can't seem to get any relief from them.

Thanks

Have PM'd you hun, I hope it's of help to you, best of luck :hugs:.

AFM: Absolutely shattered today, went out for tes with friends last night and came home after 11pm, was lovely to catch up but missed those couple of hours sleep very much!!! DH and DD1 have taken a load of house stuff over to our home town, the reality of moving is setting in a little now and unfortunately not soon enough!!! I have sooo much to do and sooo little motivation. By the time I get the everyday stuff done it all gets undone by the girls and another day has passed without a box packed!!! Ah well, I'm sure adrenaline will kick in soon, won't it??? Thanks for reading my nonsensical rambling whoever go this far! Best be off and do the washing and MAYBE pack a box :laughing:!

Have a great weekend girls.

Sam :sunshine:

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

08-08-2009, 23:03

Well I'm struggling to keep up here!!

Sassy- I wouldn't worry about the 6hr sleeps (other than to enjoy them!) as the midwives told me to let bub sleep as long as possible at night time but to ensure she doesn't go any more than 4hrs without in the daytime. And since you have a big bub I wouldn't think he would need waking for a feed? The engorgement will settle too, A is 9 days old now and I'm not nearly as engorged as I was at 5 or 6 days.

Lukie- Well done on getting Miss B to sleep in her cot! :yes: I've tried the piece of my clothing/pillowcase that smelt like me, and also the wheat pack to warm her bed and make her think she was still being held and neither worked!! So my new tactic is that I have taken the mattress out of her bassinette and put on our bed so she has her own 'space', it's impossible for me to roll over on her and I have my long body pillow wedged between the side of the bed and her bassinette so she can't fall out either! Hopefully when she gets used to sleeping on the mattress she won't notice if we move it back to the bassinette :devil6:

Sandy- Big hugs honey, glad the surgery went oK and hopefully you can just enjoy your little girl now! How much longer is your mum here for?

Babycart- Have you tried the Rite-Aid hydrogel nipple discs? I found them really soothing for in between feeds if you have grazed nipples and they heal a lot faster.

Stacey- Don't feel bad about the FF. At the end of the day as long as a baby is being fed that is the important thing! Glad to hear it has made the both of you happier! When DS was a bub he was forumla fed from 9 days old and slept much better too, up to 7 hrs night! At the moment that would almost tempt me to FF!! As far as the sleeping on chest thing, I would have thought that it was slightly less riskier than sleeping in a bed on their tummy as you can sense when they stop breathing etc? DH sometimes sleeps with bub on his chest at night but he always has himself propped up on a 45o angle.

Sammi- Good news re:the ENT call! What is the wind mixture? I bought the brauns one for miss A (used it with DS) but she pulls a face and dry-retches or vomits cause she hates the taste! Hope packing is going well! Gorgeous pics BTW, just love the 'Emo' one!! :laughing:

Emz- Sorry no advice on a routine yet! Still trying to work this crazy bub out! Any ideas what age is a good time to implement one? I think someone said that they don't usually work till after 2 weeks? Has anyone tried one sooner?

Welcome Danemwalker, looking fwd to getting to know you! :wave:

Ashdan- Oh no! No good about DS1 having tonsillitis! Not what you need right now! hope he is better very soon.

AFM- Had a lovely evening with bub tonight, sat by the heater and took off all her clothes except her nappy and took off my shirt and had a good few hours of skin to skin with her, then massaged some baby lotion into her skin so she is all soft and smells yummy! Only problem was with all the happy hormones I was doing some serious milk leaking and so she kept wanting to 'snack' every 10 mins or so! But amazingly she was relaxed and didn't do the 'sharkey' grab for milk, she just opened her mouth wide and let me feed her and a few times she actually put herself on without me even doing anything.
It feels like she's grown up a lot in the last week, she does little smiles now (which probably don't count as smiles at this age but they are cute anyway!) and she is also able to completely lift her head off my chest and look around.
BFing is going better than last time, although some days I seem to have the hang of it better than other days. Managed a really good nap this afternoon for 2 hours so everything seems a lot nicer and calmer tonight! Was starting to feel a little jealous of DH as he has such nice times with her, wheras I felt like I was always just feeding and changing her and then handing her to him when I needed a break, while he gets to 'enjoy' her IYKWIM? But feeling much better and more bonded after our skin-to-skin tonight. :yes:
Not sure how much she weighs now, she was 4270g at birth and 4240g at 1 week (she only lost 30g) so assuming she will start to gain some weight now. Not in any kind of regular routine yet but I have noticed she isn't feeding for quite as long as she was and can manage to drain a breast in 20 mins when it used to take an hour.
Only thing is, sometimes I can't tell when she has drained it properly? It might feel very soft and lighter, but I can still squeeze milk out? If they are drained properly can you still squeeze milk? :confused: I'm so worried as I got mastitis with DS1 after only a week and stopped BFing then.

Oh well, bub is awake for some food so I'll try n keep up better next time!!

cmd'smum

08-08-2009, 23:46

Nic, a breast is never really "empty". Sounds like Amaya is draining your boobs well though so don't worry and def sounds like you're doing great with BF! :yes: Well done :yelclap: Leah also hates that Brauers stuff and dry retches, so Sammi if I can have your secret recipe too that would be fantastic!!!:D

staceylee

09-08-2009, 08:41

Ok this was me last night -->:hair::banghead: at the ILs. We went their for tea after SIL and BIL visited our house. I love SIL and BIL they are like really close friends.

Well anyway back to the hair pulling. We got to ILs late as we bathed Harper and my parents live in Tas and dont get to see her much so we SKYPED them so they could see have her feed and bath so we were already in trouble for that. Then H was happy to sit in the bouncer and look at the toys on the bar thing when MIL walks in and just picks her up and starts putting her really high in the air and stirring her up when we told her many MANY times that H is ment to be sleeping so we would like her to just sit and relax but she wouldnt listen!! It annoyed me, DH and SIL that MIL just walked in and picked up H without even asking if it was ok!! If she asked I would have said yeah thats fine try to keep it gentle though she is ment to be sleeping/resting. I was very offended that she didnt ask!

Then after waking her up heaps she started to get restless and wanted to feed which was fine as it had been about 3hrs since her last feed. DH said to ME not MIL, ME 'she looks like she might be starting to look for a feed' and before I could say anything MIL says really loudly 'so now she wants a feed, what is sleep or feed huh?' and walked out of the room! It was so embarrassing(sp) DH's auntys and uncles and a cousin where there too and MIL keep saying to them oh you better have a hold, go and hold her, make sure you have a hold without even checking if it was ok with us and if we wanted her passed around to 6 different people while she was happy to sit in the bouncer! ARRGGGGHHH it was doing my head in!!

Anyway.....

Nic - that is great the BFing is going really well for you and that you had the skin2skin time with A. That sounded so lovely!! With baby sleeping on chest thing, I sleep H on my chest when she wont settle and kinda prop myself up. I agree with you about being able to tell if they stop breathing while they are on you because I sleep very lightly when she is on me.

Sammi - Can I pretty pretty please have your magic wind mixture? H is feral at night it seems to be when she has the most wind and is constantly farting and burping and wont settle real well. Although the farts are kind of funny, who would have thought that a almost 4wk old could fart like a man :laughing: Yeah that is Harper in my AV after a feed. SHe looked so cute :goodvibes:

Emz - Well done to you and your little man :smiliedance:

Ok I think that is it. Sorry about the IL rant just really got to me last night and even DH (usually doesnt). I am now going to get Miss H ready for a day out. DH and H are still in bed all cuddled up so cute :bee:

Preshy2008

10-08-2009, 13:30

Hi Everyone,

Ive just spent some time catching up on all of your posts.. so Im going to reply to the subjects I can remember..

Burping/Hiccuophs: Liam is nto a very good burper either.. is that an issue? Ive been told various things from all the health professionals, including two that told me that breastfed babies didnt need to burp at all - its a myth??? Anyway, sometimes he burps at the drop of a hat and other times we try so long, I just give up, but I think that is contributing to his grunting ALL night sometimes!!!

Sandy - Big HUGS to you. I know how you are feeling a little.. I am having regular meltdowns and so dont feel like myself sometimes.. my moods can change from one minute to the other and its all because I just want to feel well again. I recovered form the birth very quickly, but then my nipples were so sore I cried every time I fed.. then I got an anal fissure. It doesnt sound bad, but it is horrendous and I cried each time I went to the toilet.. now I am eating a high high high fibre diet and having liquid #2s to be in any type of comfort (sorry TMI), I have one achey breast which Liam just doesnt enjoy feeding from very much.. I have been fighting a sore throat for days now and I have an ingrown finger nail (what the???) it sounds like Im having a big whinge.. but really I am just feeling sick of feeling sick.. since 32 weeks preg I have been uncomfortable or in pain in one way or another and I am ova it and just want to enjoy my son without being in pain. SO MY POINT IS.. Sandy, I know how you feel and hopefully things will pick up for you now that your surgery is done.. you are not on your own feeling like crap sometimes..

Sorbolene nappy wipe: Fantastic tip - will be trying this asap!

Cot sleeping: Today is the first day I am putting Liam in his big cot for his day sleeps.. I have been told to try this early on because they learn to sleep in thier own bed/room from early on and its much easier for them to get through the transition later.. this way I am up and about the house and can continuously check on him.. maybe its more about training mum to get used to it too?

Cookies: Can I please have the cookie recipe for increaing milk supply?

Save our sleep by Tizzie Hall: I have read this book, the routines are very regimented and you need to be very motivated and comitted to following them.. however, I have heard they are very good.. and know of people having success... I havent started Liam on a routine because I am having problems expressing now and the early routines require expressing (a side effect of the stress of the above issues Ive been told is not being able to express even if the milk is there).. so I am thinking of putting him on her routine at eight weeks... infact, I am going to start following the four week routine as a guide to my days as of tomorow..

I have been using the self settling techniques in her book and they seem to work.. I have made a habit of putting Liam down when he not quite asleep since he was first born, but with her methods, now I know how long to leave him for and what to do instead of picking him up.. he is getting used to it very quickly.. there are lots of good 'behaviour reading' tips in this book, and it is very interesting reading and gives alot of insight.. I am now refering to it as much as I am refering to my other bible 'Baby Love' by Robin Barker.

:ecomcity: Sorry about the rant!

Anyway, I am enjoying reading everyones experiences and log on whenever I can..

Take care, Preshy

flis

10-08-2009, 14:39

WARNING - woe is me post - pls skip if you want... sorry girls.

Hi Girls

Amazing what a bunch of bubs can do to our fast flowing forum!!! Hope everyone MIA is going ok.

Preshy and Sandy - I too have been emotionally challenged this week - I am exhausted, feel delirious and thought by 5 weeks it was meant to be getting easier but its getting HARDER! Think after my exhaustion from my first night of 'real sleep' thursday after popping L in her own room, getting a migraine as a result, having relos and IL come visit all friday arvo and night, L unsettled friday night as a result of me being unsettled has caught up with me... I think 5 weeks of interrupted sleep for someone who is used to 10hrs sleep is catching up with me. Poor DH copped it sat - he went surfing sat morning when i started to feed so i could go to bed but i was still up 2.5 hrs later when he returned home and he couldnt understand why i was still up - well L takes a good hr to feed, by the time i do a quick play, get her dressed, take 30mins to ensure she is asleep 2.5 hrs has passed!! lol. poor guy didnt realise but he does now! ha ha

I am having trouble trying to burp L, and she's started to spew more and she gets the hiccups so bad she vomits from them and cries. So sad. any suggestions - think i need sammiann's secret wind formula!

I have been doing a dream feed at 9pm ish but she doesnt take a full feed, so even though she then only wakes at about 1am then 5-6 she now now she is wanting to feed every 3 hrs during the day not 4 like before - totally didnt get that concept till today after a really stroppy day yesterday - so this is a new learning curve too - seriously struggle to get anything done or a sleep in when we take a good hr or so to do a feed. hoping we can get a bit more efficient soon.

on a positive note (there has to be something!) i went out for pretty much the first time BY MYSELF in 5 weeks on sunday - i had breakfast with a girlfriend. was so lovely even though it was emotionally draining as she is having major personal things going on and was super sad. i expressed for the first time too (which was much more daunting than it really was and i intend to do it much more often!).

Preshy - the cookie recipe is in the breastfeeding section of BH - i dont know how to link in but hopefully you can find it from the main forum page.

hugs staceylee - arent ILs grand not! my parents have been annoying too- since L has been born they arrive at 5pm sunday arvo when we are all exhausted and delerious from having visitors all weekend - i had to say something last night when they did it again (and whinged L was asleep / feeding and they didnt get to hold her).

Sassy - definitely dont worry about the long sleeping - given size of bub all good darling - and re engorgement - it will settle - i still get a bit engorged overnight sometimes but i am not so worried about it now as i know it will go...

ok, i am going to get some rest - sorry for the very negative post - i am loving being a mum and loving L to death but am just finding it hard sometimes and i really think it is the lack of solid sleep and know you girls will understand when i vent... am so glad to have you.

flis

kotakai

10-08-2009, 14:58

:hugs: for those that need it.

On the sleep front, I do think you get used to it. Prior to children, I needed at least 10 hours solid a night to function. Now, I can get by on 5 broken hours. Those of you with only 1, I would highly recommend when bub has their afternoon nap, you do too. Don't worry about housework or anything like that, you need to look after yourself.

Cot sleeping: Today is the first day I am putting Liam in his big cot for his day sleeps.. I have been told to try this early on because they learn to sleep in thier own bed/room from early on and its much easier for them to get through the transition later.. this way I am up and about the house and can continuously check on him.. maybe its more about training mum to get used to it too?

I also agree the sooner you can do it the better. DS2 was prem, so was still fitting in his basinet at 8 months. It was around then that we decided to move him to his cot. He was a self settled, whole night sleeping baby prior to this. problem was, at this age he could pull himself up on the cot, and he would do that & stand there screaming, so I found this so much harder to get him used to it. I'll be changing Cruz before he can pull himself up, as I think it'll be easier for him to transition.

AFM- Cruz was 11 weeks old yesterday. His reflux is still shocking & the meds aren't working. I picked up a new script today, so :fingerscrossed: we get some relief. He doesn't really sleep during the day, he's so unsettled & in pain :(

Thanks sammi for the PM :flowerz:

babeone

10-08-2009, 15:13

:hugs:flis- totally understand, it is hard and there are days when all the visitors etc really unsettle them and make you tired coz you have to entertain when you would normally be resting. I too am a 10hr sleeper normally and have found the less sleep hard- slowly getting more used to it but some days are harder than others.

Sandy and preshy :hugs: for you too, the recovery from having a baby def hasnt gone as quick as i thought. I have also had an ingrown fingernail this week- wierd!!! Still feeling pain in my bum after standing for long periods ?? what it is but waiting to see the doc. Hope things settle down soon.

Sammiann- this wondeful wind mixture is there any chance i could also know what this is?? You've started a craze :laughing:

Emz- CHN also said tummy time about 3 times a day even for a few minutes- the best tummy time Tilly has is after her bath/sower when i give her a massage she loves it and will happily spend 5 or more minutes like this.

Nic- your skin to skin time sounds wonderful- i must do this!!! Good luck at getting Amaya used to the basinette mattress- sounds like a winner so fingers crossed it works.

Staceylee- big big:hugs:. That would drive me crazy, you poor thing. Sometimes they just dont get it do they??

welcome danemwalker!

Sorry to those ive missed and hope all is well with you

AFM- went to health nurse today and Tilly has put on 1700grams since 10 day visit so just over 4 weeks ago and is in the 75th percentile for her weight. Only 53cm though so just below the 50th percentile- my little buddha baby- cute!! Everything is going well with her development which is good. I am a bit worried about my supply as last night she was draining both boobs and then looking for more so gave her some EBM after a feed and she drank 70mls and then an hour later did another full feed off me. She did go 7hrs btween this feed and the next one though and she is def putting on weight so hope it is all ok. Today she has been better but has been going less time between feeds this past week so not sure if its a big growth spurt or what.

When do others go back to work?? Im meant to go back at the end of Jan (Im a teacher so in the new school year) but i really dont want to at this stage and we need to decide in the next few weeks whether we can afford for me to not go back till either the following year or at least till mid next year after ive taken my full year and Tilly is 1yo. Its sooo hard....

Kimmi77

10-08-2009, 19:51

Hi Girls,

Thanks flis for getting me on this thread, thought it was quiet back there in the old one. Well ive had bubba, she is 1 week old and is doing really well. I fed for four days but my milk did not really come in, also i had to go back on medication for my ms, which has relapsed quite badly. Made it very difficult. Thankful i have a great DH.

Anyway glad to see you all here.

Kimmi

xx

sandy119120

10-08-2009, 21:22

Hi,
I just want to say Thank you to everyone for the support in the last couple of weeks, i really appreciate it. I had a D & C last thursday, i only have to stay 1 day in hospital, that was good :thumbsup:. They told me they did the surgery with an U/s to make sure everything was out. The pain is better so is the bleeding(sorry TMI). Mia is also good i dont thin she ever had UTI but she is ok now im very happy with it. Istill have to have another appoitment to make sure everything is ok. I also have a numb area from the epidural(back and botton) still numb but is not really painful so another 2 weeks to see how it goes. So im feeling better now hoping i'll be able to recover now and start going out.

Sassy - I found with my two boys that i used to have engorge boobs pretty soon and i always have to express becouse of that. with my second Son the n urse told me to take cloths off the baby so he woulndt be soo comfy and will drink more. It is also true babies will soon drink more and more sooner. This time with DDi have a normal milk supply but i was afraid when i have to gave Mia bottle becouse of the antibiotics i was taken she will get use to bottle and woulnt take BF anymore. But she seems ok now.

Sammi - :smiliedance: for Alex no needing surgery, that is a big relief for you and you DH. Hope he just gets better.

Lukie - well dont for getting little K to sleep in her cot!!!!

Nic - Your have game me a great idea im going to start tonight i will take her bassinet mattres with me in my bed. Mum is staying for 3 more months.

Preshy - I think that is the way i am feeling or i was, i was talking to my mum last night and laughing about it becouse since she arrive all we have done is visit hospitals :laughing:. I have my two sons sick and then DH mmmm but im feeling pretty optimistic this week. I know things will get better. I hope you are not having anymore issues with BF i know how painful boobs can get. i had that with DS1 and DS2 glad it didnt happen this time well at least one less.

Flis - :hugs: i hope you start feeling better and have lot more sleep. Having a new baby is not easy, althought they are very cute :).

Kokotai - I cant belive Cruz is that big already, hope his reflux gets better.

Ok this is as far as i could go. i'll be back tomorrow to finish reading. Mia is again crying very loud!!!!

take care all.

WotWillBWillB

10-08-2009, 21:49

Hi girls not too sure which thread i should join if i go by corrected age or by actual age.

Any way i have a question for you all.

Do any of you have problems with a bub that has a feed at bed time (any where from 8 to 11pm) then won't settle enought to sleep? I was up with Lilly last night from 8pm feed to 12 feed. every time i thought i got her settled she was awake again. I know that they are only corrected age of 3 weeks but i am started to not know what to do. plus i really can't get in to the habbit of rocking her as it is too much with 2 of them.

Any help will be great!!

Thanks

Susan

wantvba2c

11-08-2009, 03:57

Emily Ann was born at 6:20am on 8/8/09
She weighed 8lb 7oz or 3.8kg, 52 cm long, 36.5 head circ.

Emily was born by c-section so unfortunately for me things didnt go according to plan a or plan b but went according to plan c. Please dont feel too bad for me not getting my HBA2C as I am accepting and when you read my birth story (which I will post maybe tomorrow) you will understand too why plan c was the best for me. I am recovering well and breastfeeding is going really well so far (although right now my boobs feels like big watermelons coz my milk has come in).

I am still in hospital as I write this, although I could go home tomorrow but I have decided to stay 4 days rather than 3 to give me a bit of extra Emily/mummy time. So I will go home on Wednesday.

So I didnt have my HBA2C but I did have a Home/water labour with empowered c-section.

Preshy2008

11-08-2009, 09:03

Hi:wave:

Thank you all for your support. I feel great most days - totally in love with my little boy, exillarated and significant.. its just every now and then, it all gets to me. I too was never a good soul when I had a bad sleep, so maybe the deprivation is catching up with me, I certanily feel a lot more sorry for myself when we have had a bad night or day!

babeone: OMG you too with the ingrown fingernail?? How bizarre is that? I actually rubbed some breast mik into the cuticle and it releived it a little.. maybe try that.. weird.
As for the snacking your little one was doing, I believe that sometimes our bubs tend to do that moreso for the sucking comfort rather than hunger.. I wouldnt worry about it too much..

Liam slept like an angel in his cot yesterday.. he needed to be soothed a couple of times, but both sleeps I ended up having to wake him for his feeds.. I was impressed and intend on sleeping him in his cot during the day every day.. he looked so tiny at the bottom of that BIG bed!!!

I hope you all have a great day xxx

SammiAnn

11-08-2009, 09:44

Morning girls,

Nic - Hmmm... I was sure I clicked your post to quote??? Anyway, was just going to say how much I enjoyed reading your description of massage time with your sweet little girl. Brought back memories of me doing the same with DD2 in front of the fireplace, so nice :bee:.

Sammi - Can I pretty pretty please have your magic wind mixture?

Hope you found my PM ok. Good luck.

I am having trouble trying to burp L, and she's started to spew more and she gets the hiccups so bad she vomits from them and cries. So sad. any suggestions - think i need sammiann's secret wind formula!

Woohoo for having a meal babe-free! Well done. Will PM you after posting hun. I really hope you find something that works for you both.

AFM- Cruz was 11 weeks old yesterday. His reflux is still shocking & the meds aren't working. I picked up a new script today, so we get some relief. He doesn't really sleep during the day, he's so unsettled & in pain

Thanks sammi for the PM

Aw kotakai! Many :hugs: for little Cruz. Here's hopeing the new script is just what you both need. No worries about the wind stuff, good luck.

Sammiann- this wondeful wind mixture is there any chance i could also know what this is?? You've started a craze

Will PM you too after I post this hun. Tilly sounds adorably chubby! I love chubba bubs, extra sweet.

Well ive had bubba, she is 1 week old and is doing really well. I fed for four days but my milk did not really come in, also i had to go back on medication for my ms, which has relapsed quite badly. Made it very difficult. Thankful i have a great DH.

:smiliedance: Kimmi, great to see you here hun! So glad your darling daughter arrived safe and sound. Sorry to read about your MS, how long before it should settle for you? Enjoy your darling.

Hi,
I just want to say Thank you to everyone for the support in the last couple of weeks, i really appreciate it.

That's what we're here for darl. So glad to hear there is light at the end of the tunnel for you hun. Keep getting better :hugs:. Thanks for the kind words about Alex, we're very happy there's no surgery needed at this stage. I think he's getting better at night, I only needed to suck him out once last night! Enjoy your little pink one.

Hi girls not too sure which thread i should join if i go by corrected age or by actual age.

Hi Susan! You most definitely belong in here :hugs:. I'll put my thinking hat on about Lilly's sleeping adn get back to you, I hope you find a solution very soon.

Emily Ann was born at 6:20am on 8/8/09
She weighed 8lb 7oz or 3.8kg, 52 cm long, 36.5 head circ.

So I didnt have my HBA2C but I did have a Home/water labour with empowered c-section.

Congratulations on Emily's safe arrival. I'm sorry you didn't get your Plan A but you sound like you made the best of the situation you were in. So very happy for you.

Liam slept like an angel in his cot yesterday.. he needed to be soothed a couple of times, but both sleeps I ended up having to wake him for his feeds.. I was impressed and intend on sleeping him in his cot during the day every day.. he looked so tiny at the bottom of that BIG bed!!!

Yay for Liam enjoying his cot!!! Alex still looks tiny in his too, I've started being able to put him down when he's drowsy and he's putting himself to sleep. Good luck with him, I'm sure he'll stay there now's he's used to it, well done.

Here's a link to the biscuit recipe: Lactation Cookies (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=29207&highlight=lactation+boosting+cookies). Good luck!

Big hello's to everyone else, hope you and bubbas are doing well.

Hope I've PM'd those about the wind stuff who wanted it, please remind me if not. I'm not sure if I can post about it in the forum part so am happy to PM the details. What can't I do cmd's mum?

Have a lovely day girls.

Sam :sunshine:

FullMoon

11-08-2009, 09:48

Hi guys Well I finally have internet back just to remember how early I had DS so im not part of July Mummies anymore...only milestone wise...

Lukie

11-08-2009, 12:06

Full Moon- we'd love to have you with July mummies in this thread if you wanna chat with us... how are you and the bub doing?

Sammi- I've just started putting B down in her cradle to get herself to sleep... how often do you have to go in there and re-settle Alex? I've been up and down every few mins for about 15mins cos she keeps dropping the dummy before she's fully asleep and then cries for it. She fell asleep and slept for about 20mins, and the woke up and the cycle started again. I'm getting lots of exercise this way... but then again, I was burning lots of kj rocking her too! Hope I fit into my pre-preg jeans soon the way I'm going :laughing:

wantvbac2- congratulations on the birth of your daughter! Glad you feel positive about your birth experience!

Preshy- :hugs: sounds like you're having a rough time. Hope things start looking up again soon! I would like to try B in her big cot for day sleeps too, but it's too cold in her room right now, and its a victory if I can get her to sleep in her cradle at this point. Hope we can graduate to the cot around 3-4 months...

WWB- it must be very hard with two bubbas! I'm not sure that I can give you any advice, especially as I usually rock B to sleep, or else have her in bed with me if it's night time and she won't settle in her bed... but I do feel for you and will give you some of these :hugs:

sandy- glad your d&c went well and you are on the mend!

kimmi- good to hear your DH is being supportive- makes such a difference. I had DH home with me for almost 2 weeks, would've been very very stressful without him. He's taking another week off next month and I can't wait.

babeone- I'm a teacher too, although I had been casual teaching before B was born, so I don't have to decide when I go back before a certain date... at this stage, hoping I won't have to for at least 2 years. Full-time permanent teaching is so demanding, I think it's super dooper hard to juggle small baby and teaching- my sister went back when her son was 6 weeks old (she had to for finances) and I know she struggled a lot. Good luck with your decision, at the end of the day, you gotta do what you gotta do.

kotakai- so sorry Cruz is still suffering with the reflux and its so tough during the day :hugs:

flis- sorry to hear you're struggling too :hugs:Lack of sleep really does get to you, some days I just feel like I cannot keep my eyes open for one more minute! B has been feeding a little more frequently in the evenings, not sure if she wakes up cos she's hungry, or for another reason but i offer her the breast and she takes it... this sometimes happens around 2.5hrs after her last feed. But sometimes she goes for 5hrs, so who knows???

AFM- have been enjoying some really good nights, B in her cradle and not really waking during the night, crying but with her eyes closed when she gets up for a feed, and seems to be asleep when she's done :thumbsup: Although last night she was up at 2:40am and I could tell she needed to poo, she was being soooo noisy. I thought it would be easier to let her poo than suffer through all her noises, so I held her on the potty and 5 seconds later she did her poo, and then I fed her for about 40 mins. And still she was awake. Took ages to get her to sleep, and as soon as I put her in her cradle she was awake again. I ended up taking her into bed with me and she slept this way til 7am.

Had DH home yesterday so I left B with him while I went out to run errands- had to go to Centrelink and lodge forms for B, waited 1.5hrs! Wish I'd taken a book! Then to Toys R Us to grab a few things. I really wish I could just go out for a coffee and a magazine by myself, but it seems whenever I get to go out it's to do the groceries or run errands! Oh well, maybe next week...

kotakai

11-08-2009, 15:08

Hi guys Well I finally have internet back just to remember how early I had DS so im not part of July Mummies anymore...only milestone wise...

My DS came early in may & I'm still here. Hope you stay & chat. How is he going? Is he putting on weight well?

Lukie-well done with the EC. I think there's a section about it here somewhere?

I'm taking Cruz to a chiro tomorrow who specialises in babies. Have never done this with the others, but heard great things from people who have.

MooMum

11-08-2009, 15:47

Hi all :wave:

I'm finally here! I'm sorry I've been absent. We are still at my Mum's as our house just wasn't appropriate to take a new born and a toddler to. w are going home Friday. So it's been a bit hard to get on the net, my apologies, I have missed you all!:hugs:

D is wonderful! Feeding is not. I have the worlds most sensitive nipples at the best of times, bf'ing is not something that comes easily here. So I am expressing and bottle feeding but am seeing a lactation consultant tomorrow. I would dearly love to bf but am readying myself for that not working again. I expressed for 5 mths with DS1 but can't do that this time with a toddler running around. I got myself into a terrible state last time with stressing over having enough milk, if I'm unable to do it this time formula will be what we go with. As it is atm I have already had to freeze a good deal of milk so I have a good supply, it's just getting bub on the boob!

I haven't had a chance to read how you all are so please forgive the lack of peronals. I hope you are all well and bubs are all thriving.

Sleep is something we are not yet getting of course! I think being away from home doesn't help though. will be nice to get home into our own space. On the upside the house looks AMAZING! We are so happy with it, even if we'll be painting it for the rest of our lives!!!

Must go bub wants some attention, I'm already typing one handed while expressing!!

Just wanted to say hello and let you know I'm thinking of you all, don't want you forgetting me!!! :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:

KiahsMum

11-08-2009, 18:30

Very quick one for those who aren't sure they belong here, doesn't matter when your bub was born!! As long as you fit the following criteria you belong here:
- Bub was due in July
- Bub was born in July
- You think the ladies in the July thread rock and love our company!

You all get the idea I hope :) You are all such an amazing group of women, not only for being mothers but for the support, time, advice, love and friendship you have all given each other (and me!) in the last 9 months and I would hate to lose anyone!

Ok got to go DD's bedtime!

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

12-08-2009, 10:51

Oh KM, you sure know how to bring a tear to a gal's eye! :hugs:

Moo- yay for finally being here! Feels good to 'cross the line' and be on the other side doesn't it? Sorry to hear the BF isn't going well. I have my ups and downs with it at the moment...last night I looked up different breastfeeding positions on youtube which was helpful! :thumbsup: Cause even though I knew the various holds I didn't know how you would go about getting bub to attatch etc. Maybe you could try that, as have heard people say that when they have a crack etc on one side often a different position works well till it heals? Looking fwd to the pics of the house when you get back!
Also, with the freezing milk, don't pump more than he eats as you'll just produce more (i'm sure you already know that though!)...was reading a thread on here last night about someone who would pump off the excess milk so they weren't so engorged but ended up making an absolute heap of it as they were stimulating the supply too much etc!

Lukie- Well done on the EC. Have heard of it, but haven't really looked into it. I can usually tell when A is going to do a poo but its usually while I'm feeding her! :laughing:

Sammi- Thanks for the PM! Will check it out for sure! I hear Kazc is coming to visit you? Give her and her belly a big hug for me!!

Preshy- i totally hear you! i've been very teary lately (moreso than when I was pregnant as wasn't really at all then!), which I think is a combo of lack of sleep/frustration and hormones! DH even came and sat in the loungeroom with me at 3am the other night while I fed as I wouldn't stop crying. :o Having said that bub had been awake since 11:30pm, had fed every hour and cried, and didn't get to sleep till 5:30 am. I think he felt like crying by the end too! Hope your fingernail feels better soon! I don't have ingrown ones but have been biting them heaps since she was born so the quick's are all mangled and sore. Silly me!

wantvba2c- Congrats on the birth of Emily! Hope you have a good stay in hospital and get that one-on-one time with her.

WWBWB- Sorry not much advice here either as I'm still rocking bub to sleep. I think you are amazing to be dealing so well with twins! I feel like I'm going to go crazy with just one sometimes, let alone two of them!! :hugs:

Sandy- Glad all went well with the op. I think the bassinette mattress worked as she has slept in her bassinette now for 3 nights! (Although the second night there was no sleeping!) I have found I've had to put her in there already asleep though and then she'll stir and I rock the side of the bassinette. She even sleeps up to 4-5hrs at once in there.

Kimmi- Hope the meds are working and the MS is headed back into remission. Lots of hugs for you, you brave wonderful lady!

Flis- big hugs! Men just don't get it! DH knows I feed all the time and he's usually great but lately he's been playing Xbox in the day whilst I'm on the lounge feeding and its so annoying that he is sitting there talking to other people online while I'm sitting next to him attatched to Amaya! Hope u managed some more sleep the last few days!

Kotakai- can't believe Cruz is 11wks already! How are the new reflux meds going? Any change?

Babeone- sounds like Tilly is doing really well! As for work, I'm going back in March but have paid leave till then..if I didn't I'd be back already!

AFU (As For Us)- We r doing OK. Had a shocker of a night 2 nights ago but she made up for it last night by only waking at 2am and 6am.
A bit of a personal question, but: Just wondering how long everyone bled for? I know my bub isn't even 2 weeks old yet but sometimes I think its stopped and then it starts back really heavy again? Had a biggish clot last week (sorry TMI!!) and bled heavily for a day after that, but still seems to be coming and going. So annoying!
A is doing really well. Our first CHN visit tomorrow so looking fwd to seeing if she's gained weight. I'm sure she has though! She has been giving us lots of big smiles, even a couple of laughs and lots of gurgling talk!
Anyway, bout to wake her for a bath so we can head out. :devil:
Talk later. xxx

flis

12-08-2009, 12:00

Hi guys Well I finally have internet back just to remember how early I had DS so im not part of July Mummies anymore...only milestone wise...

Hi girls not too sure which thread i should join if i go by corrected age or by actual age.

of course you girls are welcome here :-) you are part of our gang!

Very quick one for those who aren't sure they belong here, doesn't matter when your bub was born!! As long as you fit the following criteria you belong here:
- Bub was due in July
- Bub was born in July
- You think the ladies in the July thread rock and love our company!

You all get the idea I hope You are all such an amazing group of women, not only for being mothers but for the support, time, advice, love and friendship you have all given each other (and me!) in the last 9 months and I would hate to lose anyone!

Ok got to go DD's bedtime!

totally agree - would be so lost without you all girls - yay for BH!!!

Hi

Thank you all for your support. I feel great most days - totally in love with my little boy, exillarated and significant.. its just every now and then, it all gets to me. I too was never a good soul when I had a bad sleep, so maybe the deprivation is catching up with me, I certanily feel a lot more sorry for myself when we have had a bad night or day!

xxx

Oh Preshy- i totally hear you! i've been very teary lately (moreso than when I was pregnant as wasn't really at all then!), which I think is a combo of lack of sleep/frustration and hormones! DH even came and sat in the loungeroom with me at 3am the other night while I fed as I wouldn't stop crying. :o Having said that bub had been awake since 11:30pm, had fed every hour and cried, and didn't get to sleep till 5:30 am. I think he felt like crying by the end too! Hope your fingernail feels better soon! I don't have ingrown ones but have been biting them heaps since she was born so the quick's are all mangled and sore. Silly me!

Flis- big hugs! Men just don't get it! DH knows I feed all the time and he's usually great but lately he's been playing Xbox in the day whilst I'm on the lounge feeding and its so annoying that he is sitting there talking to other people online while I'm sitting next to him attatched to Amaya! Hope u managed some more sleep the last few days!
AFU (As For Us)- We r doing OK. Had a shocker of a night 2 nights ago but she made up for it last night by only waking at 2am and 6am.
A bit of a personal question, but: Just wondering how long everyone bled for? I know my bub isn't even 2 weeks old yet but sometimes I think its stopped and then it starts back really heavy again? Had a biggish clot last week (sorry TMI!!) and bled heavily for a day after that, but still seems to be coming and going. So annoying!
xxx

so glad i am not alone - had a complete meltdown last night - got myself a migraine from not eating properly and just lost it by 7pm last night. had an osteo appt today and feel much better plus DH took day off work and i didnt have to take L with me so that was less stressful too.

i bled for exactly 3 weeks. i too had a big clot pass but after checking with midwives it was fine. they just said to keep an eye on it if i was light then had clot then got heavy again which sounds like what you are having - maybe check with your middie friends?

Emily Ann was born at 6:20am on 8/8/09
She weighed 8lb 7oz or 3.8kg, 52 cm long, 36.5 head circ.

Emily was born by c-section so unfortunately for me things didnt go according to plan a or plan b but went according to plan c. Please dont feel too bad for me not getting my HBA2C as I am accepting and when you read my birth story (which I will post maybe tomorrow) you will understand too why plan c was the best for me. I am recovering well and breastfeeding is going really well so far (although right now my boobs feels like big watermelons coz my milk has come in).

I am still in hospital as I write this, although I could go home tomorrow but I have decided to stay 4 days rather than 3 to give me a bit of extra Emily/mummy time. So I will go home on Wednesday.

So I didnt have my HBA2C but I did have a Home/water labour with empowered c-section.
congrats on the birth of little Emily - so sad you didnt get your preferred birth but am glad you are positive about the c section you had :-)

Hope I've PM'd those about the wind stuff who wanted it, please remind me if not. I'm not sure if I can post about it in the forum part so am happy to PM the details. What can't I do cmd's mum?

Have a lovely day girls.

Sam :sunshine:
thanks so much for the wind info - that chemist sure will have an influx of callers this week lol!

Had DH home yesterday so I left B with him while I went out to run errands- had to go to Centrelink and lodge forms for B, waited 1.5hrs! Wish I'd taken a book! Then to Toys R Us to grab a few things. I really wish I could just go out for a coffee and a magazine by myself, but it seems whenever I get to go out it's to do the groceries or run errands! Oh well, maybe next week...

How nice is it to do something on your own even if it is for an hour - makes it so much easier to pop into places!

Hi all :wave:

I'm finally here! I'm sorry I've been absent. We are still at my Mum's as our house just wasn't appropriate to take a new born and a toddler to. w are going home Friday. So it's been a bit hard to get on the net, my apologies, I have missed you all!:hugs:

D is wonderful! Feeding is not. I have the worlds most sensitive nipples at the best of times, bf'ing is not something that comes easily here. So I am expressing and bottle feeding but am seeing a lactation consultant tomorrow. I would dearly love to bf but am readying myself for that not working again. I expressed for 5 mths with DS1 but can't do that this time with a toddler running around. I got myself into a terrible state last time with stressing over having enough milk, if I'm unable to do it this time formula will be what we go with. As it is atm I have already had to freeze a good deal of milk so I have a good supply, it's just getting bub on the boob!

so excited you are going home soon - you wont know yourself! good luck with the feeding too!

:hugs:flis- totally understand, it is hard and there are days when all the visitors etc really unsettle them and make you tired coz you have to entertain when you would normally be resting. I too am a 10hr sleeper normally and have found the less sleep hard- slowly getting more used to it but some days are harder than others.

Sandy and preshy :hugs: for you too, the recovery from having a baby def hasnt gone as quick as i thought. I have also had an ingrown fingernail this week- wierd!!! Still feeling pain in my bum after standing for long periods ?? what it is but waiting to see the doc. Hope things settle down soon.
When do others go back to work?? Im meant to go back at the end of Jan (Im a teacher so in the new school year) but i really dont want to at this stage and we need to decide in the next few weeks whether we can afford for me to not go back till either the following year or at least till mid next year after ive taken my full year and Tilly is 1yo. Its sooo hard....
thanks babe. i am going to start doing work again from jan - i work from home so will do 1-2 days and am hoping i can manage it with L at home with me. otherwise i am thinking of getting a sitter in for a few hrs once a week so i can focus... such a hard decision hey. initially i didnt think i was allocated enough work (has already been decided by my work) for the first 6 months i am back but now i am pleased they gave me less than i originally wanted - lucky i didnt ask for more.

Thanks to everyone for their support- it is so greatly appreciated.

L has now grown out of her bassinette - she slept in her big girl bed for the first time this morning and its going well. bought a growbag sleeping bag for nightimes today so will test it out hopefully tonight.

love to all xxx

Ashdan

12-08-2009, 12:13

Hey girls...

Wow, I've been slack reading the past few days and there is so uch to catch up on. Nik and I both ended up with A's cold. There's not much you can take to help when you are BF. We're feeling much better tho and went and got our Whooping Cough vaccinations this morning.

As for C, I am definitely vouching for Sammii's wind mixture. I have a different baby after him starting on it on Monday. He now is feeding for so much longer instead of snacking and falling asleep as burping was taking so long and he is sleeping like a newborn should. Last night, I put him down at 5.30 for a nap and had to dream feed him at 10. Usually, he has been feeding every 2 hours! Amazing stuff :yes:

Got to run...will come back later for more personals

The Fox

12-08-2009, 12:45

hey guys just a quick one from me, Oliver is sick poor baby. Can someone please please please fill me in on this wind mixture??? pretty please :)

Square777

12-08-2009, 13:38

oops- duh i just posted this in the other thread :o blond moment!!

So this is where you all are!! :D ... thanks Flis :yes:

i will read back through the posts to catchh up.

But we're going well, Zac is a good baby, (well i assume so, nothing to compare him to;))

but the little chubba has put on about 500 grams in one week!! Does that sound like a lot??

had my check up at dr, my blood and urine still out of whack from the pre-eclampsia so having that looked into still, hopefully hasn't done any permanent damage.

Just quickly, Nic with the bleeding, I'm only now easing off to light brown/mucus loss.

The first week I bleed a reasonable amount, but I don't know if what i had was normal or more because of the trouble i'd had. You'll find that when you feed the hotmones make your uterus contract, so i still find i will bleed a little heavier/more after a feed.

well my boy is finally asleep in my arm, so might go put him to bed.

hope to catch up on all the latest soon

Blonde Assassin

12-08-2009, 16:34

Nic - I was bleeding alot after M's birth & my iron levels dropped very quickly resulting in me being borderline ready for a blood transfusion!! I got checked out at the hospital again for a bit of placenta or something being torn inside but they found nothing, & soon enough it stopped. If you're getting consistent clots you should get it checked out because I was told that could mean some parts of the placenta are remaining & they need to get them out :hugs:

Cassii - PM SammiAnn, she has the wind formula, I just sent her a little message myself ;)

Flis - we bought a Grobag too but haven't used it yet, its very cold in Melb so I'm not sure if its warm enough for M. Let us know how it goes!!

Deking - Wow! That's a monster weight gain! Well done! My little man put on 478g in 2 weeks so sounds like your bubba is thriving!

AFM - We're both doing well. I'm looking forward to getting into our own routine when DF goes back to work, but ohhh I'll miss having him around! Its been over a month!!!
M is having horrible wind issues, he takes forever to burp after a feed & cries for ages afterwards. We went to the GP & they gave him Zantac, but I'm not sure how effective that's been so far. Hopefully it works because I hate seeing him in pain, its really frustrating!!
MIL stayed over last night & he'd bawl everytime she fed him a bottle & held him because she kept letting him slip. It kills me hearing him cry in pain, its almost as though I feel it too :(

babeone

12-08-2009, 17:07

Sammiann- thankyou for the pm :flowerz:

deking- my little one has put on 1.7kgs in just over 4 weeks which is about 425grams a week and HCN didnt seem bothered so im sure 500g would be fine. She is in the 75th percentile for her age but id rather her be chubby then underweight!

cassii- hope you can get the mixture and get your little one sorted out.

ashdan- great to hear the mixture has given you some relief.

flis- i put tilly in a sleeping bag not a grobag brand- its one my nana sent me from england and she slept like a dream. She was quite hot last night so didnt put her in it again but will be using it instead of a wrap as she seems to like having her arms out. What size basinette did you have?? Tilly still seems to have heaps of room left or is there a weight limit?? I hope not im not ready for her to leave my room yet- i think there will be tears when she has too eventually :laughing:

Nic- great to hear about the basinette sleeping- must be nice to have a more deep sleep- i know how lightly you sleep when they are in your arms. Hope she goes well at the HCN- let us know how much weight she's gained. :hugs: about DP and the xbox- i sympatize, mine is surfing and then yest stayed after work for beers- how lucky for him!!
I did your heater and skin to skin time idea yest- was beautiful and Tilly loved it.

Lukie- casual work sounds good. Think we have decided i will have the full year off and then go back 2 days a week mid next year. Im thinking my walking around the house in the sling is going to help get back into pre preg jeans :laughing:

Moomum- welcome glad bubs finally mad ean appearance.

:wave: to anyone i missed. hope ur well.

AFM- last 2 nights tilly has been a dream- going 6-7 hours between feeds through the night and then awake but content during the day- its been lovely- hope it continues. I think she has a belly button hernia though. Noticed yesterday it was popping out heaps and when i push on it it goes back in but sounds like it is full of fluid- so after research on good old google i have come to this conclusion. Could be wrong but guess ill found out at docs next week.

Has anyone used nappiesonline? i looked at it today and looks really good for bulk nappies so wondering if anyone has experience coz im thinking of buying some of the infant huggies- the ones that are in between newborn and crawlers but they only sell them in the small packs in the shops.

anyone going to mothers group?? mine starts on the 26th august and am thinking of going was wondering whether anyone else has started or are planning on starting one.

kotakai

12-08-2009, 17:54

Yay for all the great weight gains :smiliedance::smiliedance: I'll weigh DS tomorrow night when I go to the shops. hope I can also say we've had a big gain.

M is having horrible wind issues, he takes forever to burp after a feed & cries for ages afterwards. We went to the GP & they gave him Zantac, but I'm not sure how effective that's been so far. Hopefully it works because I hate seeing him in pain, its really frustrating!!
MIL stayed over last night & he'd bawl everytime she fed him a bottle & held him because she kept letting him slip. It kills me hearing him cry in pain, its almost as though I feel it too :(

Zantac did nothing for either of my DS's reflux, had to change to Losec. You need to give it a bit to work though. It is very hard seeing them in pain :hugs: Just a question about his feeding. Does he always scream & come of the bottle?

anyone going to mothers group?? mine starts on the 26th august and am thinking of going was wondering whether anyone else has started or are planning on starting one.

When I was pregnant with my DD, my aunty told me I should join a mother's group. I was totally against the idea, as I'm not good talking to people I don't know & didn't want strangers in my house. Luckily I changed my mind & went to one when DD was about a month old. Almost 8 years later, we are all such good friends, & it's wonderful the kids have all been friends for so long. We also had our 2nd bubs around the same time, so it was great to go through it together. Well after all that ramble, I just mean, if you get the chance to join a mothers group, I would :thumbsup:

Sassy75

12-08-2009, 18:34

Hi ladies...just wanted to quickly pop in so you don't forget me! It is so hard to get computer time these days. I try to sleep when A sleeps which is a lot!! I so hate to wake him for feeds but he has put on 288g in 6 days so the MCN are wrapt & I am relived that I seem to be making enough milk for him although I only feed him 10 mins each side. I express 2-3 times a day as well just so I have a supply in case he gets grumpy or hungry and I need to settle him.

DF goes back to work next week and I am dreading it. He has been such an amazing help. How will I cope on my own???

I have mother's group starting next thurs and am a bit nervous so any other feedback would be appreciated. What exactly do you do at MG?? I find the whole thing a bit intimidating.

Sammi - would love the wind mixture if you could please PM me??

I will be back tmoz to catch up...promise as i miss you all :)

SammiAnn

12-08-2009, 18:47

Evening girls,

FullMoon - Of course you're welcome here hun, this is where you and your little darling belong. Fill us in on his goings on.

Lukie - It's only been the last approx. ten days Alex has been settling himself. The first few days I'd put him down after a feed when he was drowsy and pat him quite firmly. Once he'd closed his eyes and visibly relaxed I gradually slowed the patting and lessoned the firmness. Over the next couple of days I started the patting with less and less speed and weight. Got to the point of just tapping him with fingertips and stopped that the next time I put him down. Now I make sure he's relaxed but not passsed out asleep when I put him down and he's asleep before I close the door. DD2 sucked her thumb and would have the same prob but once I'd patted her to sleep the first few times she was deep enough when she lost it it didn't matter. By the end of the week I guess she was going to sleep as soon her little head hit the pillow she didn't need it for long.

As Alex and DD2 sleeps/slept on their tummy's the above worked well, not sure if it will be the same for a back sleeper but I'm sure you could figure out a similar routine. Best of luck with B hun. I rocked my DD1 to sleep until she was 18 months old. I didn't have any other kidlets to chase so could, and enjoyed it! I did the above with DD2 and she self settled soon too. Do whatever you want to hun, I don't think there's anything wrong cuddling bub to sleep if you have the time to enjoy it, I loved it with DD1.

Hope all that raving made sense????

kotakai - I took DD1 to a chiro when she was new and it helped her settle more at night. It was a while ago now so can't really remember what he said about her but I wish I'd been closer to take our other two, hope it goes well for you and Cruz.

MooMum - aw we could never forget you! So glad your house is coming along so well. Sending lots of BF vibes your way, and if not, bub will grow strong and healthy on either way. You're doing a great job.

Very quick one for those who aren't sure they belong here, doesn't matter when your bub was born!! As long as you fit the following criteria you belong here:
- Bub was due in July
- Bub was born in July
- You think the ladies in the July thread rock and love our company!

You all get the idea I hope. You are all such an amazing group of women, not only for being mothers but for the support, time, advice, love and friendship you have all given each other (and me!) in the last 9 months and I would hate to lose anyone!

Ok got to go DD's bedtime!

:iagree: AMEN to THAT!!! Well said hun.

Nic - No worries about the PM, I hope it works for you. As for the bleeding, mine has only just totally stopped last week (7wks). TMI warning: For the first two weeks it was heavy, then slowed down a little with the odd day of nothing for the next three weeks. Passed a clot and started heavy and bright red again for ten days. Had a scan and there were no obvious signs of retained products but uterus was still bulky. For the last week it has wained back to brown and I'vw had two days of nothing so fingers crossed it's all over. After eight weeks I've had ENOUGH!!! Especially when I only had two weeks after DD1 and about three weeks after DD2. Sanitary companies DEF made their money out of me this time, so gross.

Hope some of the horrid info makes you feel a little better about yours. Good luck at your CHN visit. And yep, Kaz will be here with her DH from Friday night to Tuesday afternoon. I can't wait!!! Haven't told the girls yet as I won't hear the end of the harrassment and they won't sleep!

Flis - Many :hugs: for your migraine, not good. I hope it's the last for a long time. And good luck with the wind stuff! Hmmm... maybe I should put in for a commission :laughing:! Yay for bub sleeping in her big bed! Hope it continues to go well for you.

Ashdan - So glad you're feeling better hun. And am even happier to read the wind mixture has been so wonderful for you. I've been so nervous waiting for someone to give feedback on it! Not everything works for everyone but everyone I've recommended it to IRL has had success.

cassiiii - Have PM'd you hun. I really hope bub settles for you soon :hugs:.

deking777 - Funny you mention a blonde moment, ALL my minutes are blonde moments!!! * no offence intended to any of you lovely ladies that happen to be blondes (I have grey hairs coming in and am pretending they are blonde!).

Bubs weight gain sounds fine, I had Alex to the GP yesterday about a rash and him refusing feeds and extreme gut-wrenching vomits (he thinks he has a virus and thankfully he's slept more today and fed heaps so is much better, so are my poor engorged BBs!), and he weighed him. Last weigh-in was at four weeks and he was 3.15kg. Now at eight weeks he is 5kg :eek:. So he's gaining about 500gr a week and is now 11lb. Not bad for my 6lb scrawny bub! Plenty of chub on those little thighs for needles next week unfortunately.

Emz16 - Have PM'd you too darl. Hope all is well with you. Your bleeding story sounds very similar to mine. GP here said I was close to needing a a transfusion but started iron tabs and all seems to be well now. Many hugs for your little man too. How horrid for you hearing him in so much pain. I hope you find a solution soon.

babeone - No worries, I hope it helps you too. I bet your darling is a cute chubba bubba! Hope all is well with her belly button. As for parent groups I loved mine that I joined with DD1. When we moved from town they gave me a gorgeous album they'd scrapbooked from all the pics we'd taken of the kids over the past four years, was very tear jerking! We still mass email each other and exchange birth gifts for each new bub into the group. I'm looking forward to moving back to our home town as I'll only be three and a half hours away and be able to weekend trips!!! Yay (DD1 and her little friends exchange letters all the time)!!! You'll never know if you never go!

So glad Tilly has found a great routine to suit you! What a clever bub she is (and a wonderful Mum you are to get her into it!!!).

Sassy75 - Will PM you now hun. Good luck! I hope you have a lovely group of girls in your MG. Ours started as a New Parent groups ran by the CHN and had guest speakers every fortnight (GP, Physio, Mental Health, Ambo etc.) and then once our bubs reached one we branched out onto our own at each others places. Hope yours is just as lovely.

PHEW!!!! I think that is MORE than enough from me, sorry to have bored you all but DH send me from the kidlets and put them to bed, bless him!

Sweet dreams babes and Mums.

Sam :sunshine:

staceylee

12-08-2009, 19:42

hi beautiful ladies!!

Fullmoon - Please stay with us!! Your more then welcome :yes:

Moomum - Yay for the house coming along. Sending you lots of great BFing vibes.

Nic - my bleeding sounds kind of like yours. Mine stopped after about 3 week.

babeone - I have a CYH app tomorrow so find out then about mothers group.

wantvba2c - Congarts on the birth of Emily!!!!!

Ok thats as much as i can remember! Harper is sleeping on me so is kind of hard to type.

Well as I said before I am taking H to get weighed and stuff tomorrow. Cant remember who was talking about work but at this stage I am going back to work in November but if we can afford it I would like to take longer off.

We are going to tas next month to see my parents!!!!! Really cant wait!!!

H is sleeping pretty well. the last 2 nights after her 3-4am feed I have given her a quick cuddle and put back in her bed awakeish and she has put herself to sleep. Pity it doesnt happen during the day :laughing:

I hope all you ladies that arent feeling to well are on the mend.

Night all

Lukie

12-08-2009, 19:55

just a quickie while i feed B, so once again excuse the typing:
Nic- B has to poo every during every other feed and she comes off the breast to do it, so I figure i might as well put her over potty and she does it quickly than wait for her to do it in nappy. i think it must be the squatting type position, but the poo just shoots out of her as soon as she is over the potty- sorry tmi:o

on the topic of emotions- i think i cried every day for the first 10 days! a lot of it was BF related, but also due to lack of sleep and B's wind pain. i thought it would never get better. thankfully it has!

bleeding- 4 weeks today and still going with red blood. it did slow down and almost stop, but then started again. am filling light pads...

sammi- today has been better for B self settling. i think putting her down when she is quite drowsy is the key and 10 extra mins of play is enough to do the trick. :fingerscrossed: this is the secret and i have mastered it!

kimbub

13-08-2009, 09:57

Hi Ladies,

Sorry I haven't posted for a while, we are still settling in and sorting ourselves out so it is hard to find the time to put together anything like a decent post!

Hope everyone is well and had an ok night!

Nic - my bleeding has just finished up in the last few days - so it lasted about 4 weeks for me. I had one big clot which freaked me out by my OB told me that anything about the size of an egg or smaller (eww) is pretty normal.

Emz - sorry to hear about the wind issues. I've been finding it tricky to get a burp out of Leo sometimes and a friend suggested that after he's fed, to lie him on his back for a bit and then quickly bring him upright (sort of into a sitting position) and then rub his back. Sometimes you need to do it a few times but it has really worked for me. So many people have told me that burping doesn't matter but it's just so satisfying to hear one!!! It's funny the things we get excited about now...

Babeone - I am definitely joining a mother's group! Mine doesn't start until next month, but I'm really looking forward to meeting some other mums and getting out and about a bit. I would love to meet some people that will become long-term friends so fingers crossed I mesh well with the group!

Continuing with the emotions topic - I hear you on the crying! I cried pretty much constantly for the first 2 weeks! It was awful and very hard - no-one can prepare you for the overwhelming feelings that come with having a baby and I was completely taken by surprise! As I said in my first post, I had major bf issues and when this was resolved and I accepted that it wasn't going to work for me, I felt much better and I am a different person (and mum and wife) now. To everyone that's feeling down, remember that it's totally normal and it will get better! Surround yourself with people who love and support you and make you feel good!

AFM - Leo is nearly 5 weeks old now and is doing well. I think he is finally working out the difference between night and day. He is awake more between feeds in the daytime now (a good and a bad thing!) and for the last few nights he has fed at about 5:30pm and then not again until 2am! He wakes up around midnight and gurgles and snorts to himself for a while but then goes back to sleep, which is very nice.

Has anyone else's baby got pimples? At about 3 weeks, Leo got some overnight and they have gotten worse - just red acne all over his face! Some days it looks like it's going away and then others it looks worse then ever! From what I've been told it's fairly normal and will go away on its own but it's still not nice. Should I just leave it be or do I need to get it checked out?

On a personal note - I am in desperate need of a wax and I was wondering if anyone has braved one yet? I'm sure it's fine but I had a few stitches and I'm just not sure if there's a rule as to when it's safe to get one done. Any thoughts?

Anyway, I better go and get some things done. Hope everyone is having a good day so far!

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

13-08-2009, 10:54

Thanks for all the responses re:bleeding. Haven't had any clots since last week so hopefully it was a once off. The same thing happened when I had Ethan, and the midwives said it was better in than out and as long as I didn't have pain or more clots it was OK. Glad I'm not the only one still having red loss though, you would think I'd remember all of this from when DS was born but I don't!

Lukie- Yay for self settling! I look fwd to the day!

Stacey- Ooh, Tas sounds nice! We are hoping to go in the new year sometime.

Sammi- No good about bleeding for 8 weeks! I hope mine doesn't last that long as I need to have a pap smear at my 6 week check up!

Sassy- the mothers group sounds good! I went to one when DS was born that was all teenage mums and TBH most of them were bogans (not saying teen mums are, just the ones where I live it seems!) but I made a really good friend there who I am still in touch with after 7 yrs!

Babeone- glad you had some nice skin to skin time! The CHN recommended we move bubs bath time from the day to the evening so she relaxes more at night, so might try it again after her bath tonight. Does nappiesonline sell Infant sized huggies in bigger boxes? I'd also be keen for some. The newborns still fit but won't much longer!

Emz- When does your DH go back to work? I'll be the same (although he doesn't go back till the last week Aug/first week Sept) as DH has 5 weeks off and i'm so used to him being here!

Deking- IKWYM about bleeding a more during a feed. Some days its the only time I do bleed and its gross! :o

Ashdan- I'm keen to try that wind mixture now after hearing your story!

Flis- Awww for L being in her big bed! Did you cry?

AFU- Well its taken me 3 hours to write this post!!! I started while I was feeding A at 8:30am. Then the CHN came at 9am. Bub has gained 400g in the last week so she is obviously eating enough, but she has been vomiting so much!
Last night when I fed her she vomited up the entire feed all over me, absolutely covered me... then after we both had a shower she was looking for more but she had previously drained both breasts! :hair: So i put her back on to get whatever scraps of hindmilk were left and felt bad that I didn't really have much left to feed her. She went to sleep anyway and managed to sleep 4 hrs so must have had enough.
The CHN said she is probably tired a lot of the time and overeating because I feed her when she starts searching for it, but she may be doing that because she is tired not hungry. :confused: So she thinks she is vomiting because she is overeating? Even during a normal feed though she vomits a fair amount afterwards- could this be reflux?
We have also been keeping her up too much as apparently babies are only meant to be up for an hour at a time which includes feeding etc. We have been having 'play' time after feeds etc and having awake time when she should be sleeping. Ahhh soo confusing!
Have a work dinner on tonight that I want to go to but not sure whether I should take bub or leave her with B. I wanted to take her but then not sure if the pram will fit in the restaurant etc...
Anyway, I'm just eating some pancakes with strawberries and cream for brunch- soo yummy! Miss A is gurgling and won't go to sleep..she obviously didn't listen to the CHN! :shame:

Another quick question for those who have breastfed before:
Will the 'other' side always leak a lot during a feed or will this settle down after a while?
Also... when is a good time to buy more maternity bras? Not sure I should do it now as i'm still engorged sometimes??

SammiAnn

13-08-2009, 11:19

Afternoon girls :wave:,

We are going to tas next month to see my parents!!!!! Really cant wait!!!

:yelclap: well done Mum and H for nighttime sleeping! And more :smiliedance: for going home to visit your parents, no wonder you're excited. Hope the countdown goes fast for you.

sammi- today has been better for B self settling. i think putting her down when she is quite drowsy is the key and 10 extra mins of play is enough to do the trick. this is the secret and i have mastered it!

Excellent to hear you EC is going so well, I'm just too lazy to do it :o. A friend at home did it with her two bubs and had lots of success. And woohoo for B self-settling!!! Don't be discouraged if she doesn't do it all the time, sometimes poos or wind might stop her from dropping straight off, not anything you're doing wrong. Well done!

Has anyone else's baby got pimples? At about 3 weeks, Leo got some overnight and they have gotten worse - just red acne all over his face! Some days it looks like it's going away and then others it looks worse then ever! From what I've been told it's fairly normal and will go away on its own but it's still not nice. Should I just leave it be or do I need to get it checked out?

Hi kimbub, good to hear Master L is doing well. And that's all down to you Mummy, fantastic job :yelclap:. I can definitely say 'milk pimples' on bubs are normal, my DDs had them, Alex hasn't had them yet but I'm sure they'll some. Usually they are not angry looking with little white 'heads' on them and will settle down after a week-ish. And are usually on their cheeks.

Alex has a rash of sweat pimples over his head and down the sides of his face. He's been a little off with a virus and the GP put it down to that. I was hoping they'd go away before our visitors arrived this weekend but I think time id running out!

Of course if you are worried be sure to see someone about them, can't hurt!

Another quick question for those who have breastfed before:
Will the 'other' side always leak a lot during a feed or will this settle down after a while?
Also... when is a good time to buy more maternity bras? Not sure I should do it now as i'm still engorged sometimes??

I have everything crossed your bleeding stops well and truly before mine did, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. And what you described about A vomiting last night sounds very much how a night with DD2 went when she was a bub. Cried and cried to be fed so I fed and fed and FED her, she threw it all up all over me (who knew a little girl could hold so much milk!) and promptly went to sleep for hours. I think what the CHN said makes sense, but only 'cos that's what happened with me!

As for the leaking, I'm still leaking of a morning when I'm engorged and feeding from one side. I know it did settle after I while but can't remember the exact time frame sorry. As for the bras maybe find an in-between time to try some on if possible? IE. not when engorged but not at the end of the day when you're 'empty'. Personally I've had the same bras for every BF stretch, def not best practice but not many options to try the HUGE sizes I need on out here. Sorry if that's not much help.

Hope today is going well for you all.

Sam :bee:

kotakai

13-08-2009, 11:34

So she thinks she is vomiting because she is overeating? Even during a normal feed though she vomits a fair amount afterwards- could this be reflux?

Does she seem in pain when she vomits? Pull off the breast all the time? Arch her back & scream? If she doesn't do anything like that, she probably doesn't have reflux & is just a 'happy chucker'

Kidz

13-08-2009, 14:39

Hi all .... I also belong here .... my DS was born July 13th ......

Yes, I am sleep deprived. My DS (who is 3 in october) was a great sleeper .... and I always slept during the day naps with him, so I never experienced being sleep deprived before .....

Now its a different ball game .... I actually have to stay awake the whole day, coz I have a toddler to look after !

Anyway, Im on maternity leave for 1 year (which I will be taking) and I plan to make this year a productive one ........

Once I wake up ...... LOL !

:sleeping::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:

staceylee

13-08-2009, 15:10

babeone

13-08-2009, 15:33

Good afternoon all:wave:

NIc- nappies online sell the infant ones in boxes which is good coz you can only buy the bags at the shop. The boxes they have are big boxes too, something like 128 nappies in the box. We shower at night with Tilly and found it does settle her for the night. As for the bra and leaking boobs- Tilly is nearly 7 weeks and im still leaking from one side when she feeds from the other- i think when your let down occurs it doesnt distinguish between side- could be wrong if i am please someone let me know!! Sammiann's idea bout the bra sounds good.. If what your CHN said is true think ive been overfeeding too coz i do the same and Tilly does chuck but she seems happy enough.

staceylee- not sure about the ears under the water but we personally have been careful with this coz DP had heaps of ear infections when he was a kid and we both had grommets (sp?) but in shower i let the water flow over her head, getting ready for swimming lessons :) but we dont have that great water pressure in our house!!

kimbub- tilly has some pimples on face and back but not bad- CHN said not to put any wash stuff in the bath ie Johnson and johnsons as it aggrevates it some people have suggested QV as a replacement. She does have some cradlecap above her eye brows though which i need to put some olive oil on- must do this!!

staceylee and nic- congrats on the good weight gain

hello to all i have missed- hope you are getting some sleep and smiles.

AFM- Tilly was back to her 4 hour feed routine last night- guess i spoke to soon. Am off now to finish my thankyou cards and try and make a plaster of paris to do some footprint of Tilly and the dogs for DP for our anniversary- wish me luck as im only using the flour and water variety and not sure it will work.

kotakai

13-08-2009, 15:55

Hi ladies this is probably one of the dumbest questions you have ever heard but you can just add it to the list of my other dumb questions :laughing:

Ok so when H is in the bath does it matter if her ears are it the water? Also if she has a shower with me can the water go on her head or is the pressure to much for her head?

Also we had our CYH app today and H has put on just over a kilo in 2 weeks!! And I know where its gone I can see it in her cheeks and she has little fat rolls on her legs. She looks so cute :cloud9:

No question is ever dumb :)

Not sure about the ears under water, I just choose not to, as I also got lots of ear infections as a kid. Sometimes his ears will go under, but I won't let him lay like that, IYKWIM?

Shower is totally fine. She'll let you know if she doesn't like it :D

woohoo for a great weight gain :smiliedance:

Hi all .... I also belong here .... my DS was born July 13th ......

:wave: welcome. What's your DS's name?

staceylee

13-08-2009, 16:28

Babeone - let me know how the plaster thing goes because I would like to do something like that for Harper.

Also thanks for the quick responses re ears underwater girls. I have been so worried about getting her ears wet!!

Also as it well be DHs first fathers day I want to get him something special and make it a special day for him so if any of you have any ideas I would love to hear them!!!!

babeone

13-08-2009, 16:52

Ok so that was a disaster- dont use flour and water it was just like dough and i couldnt make an imprint in it- prob be ok to use runny and pour into a footprint in sand etc.. I used a whole bag of flour and its all over me and the kitchen and i have nothing to show for it.

Think ill have to buy an actual mix from the craft shop.

kotakai

13-08-2009, 17:00

Also as it well be DHs first fathers day I want to get him something special and make it a special day for him so if any of you have any ideas I would love to hear them!!!!

Do you scrapbook? I did a page for DP last year & put it in a frame. It had a collage of photos & DS's footprints & DP loved it.

I also got him a pen that you can insert a photo in around the top. I put a photo of DS with I love daddy written on it.

In his card I did DS's footprints & put a photo of DS wearing a shirt that said I love daddy.

Have no idea what he'll be getting this year?

Lukie

13-08-2009, 17:21

Another quickie from me- just trying to pop in everyday to keep in touch but sadly cannot do as many personals as I'd like so I'll just address a few issues-
Nic- we thought every time B was mouthing she was hungry so I kept shoving the breast in her mouth and she would often just cry and cry and I'd have no idea! Then I read in Baby Love- as your nurse told you- that it can be a sign of tiredness and so we shoved a dummy in one time and she was off to sleep in minutes- so I can definitely relate to what you're saying though B is not a vomiter.

darn, that's all i ca ndo, B is awake!

Ashdan

13-08-2009, 19:12

Hey girls,

There's so much happening in here that I've written notes for replies but forgot to write who wrote what! Baby Brain!

Father's Day - For Nik's first Father's Day I splurged and got him a watch. It wasn't so much about him wanting/needing one, I just wanted something that he could eventually pass down to A when he was older if he wanted. Need to think of something for C, so any ideas are greatly appreciated!
I've also gotten him before a coffee mug with a collage of photos of him and A and last year he got a frame with A's handprints, a photo of the two of them and A's first drawing in a frame.

Underwater - I've been wondering about this too. I keep C's head above but DF holds him under. I'm assuming its fine and cleaner than the water would be if we were swimming in a pool. Maybe its good to get them used to the sound and difference for when we start swimming lessons.

Nappies - I checked out buying bulk nappies on line last night. I worked it out to be cheaper to buy them on sale when they are around $30-35 than online but because you can't buy the infant ones in boxes, the place I looked at (not sure if I can name it) worked out to be 20c cheaper than buying them in bags. Will be placing an order next week.

Pimples/Skin - C has a few milk spots on his face and around his eyes are a little dry at the moment. I'm thinking the dryness is from the weather. I haven't bathed him in soap yet. We use QV oil and its great. He was peeling lots when he arrived and its really helped keep him soft and moisturised.

BF - I'm still leaking lots when feeding on the opposite side and my letdown is a little apinful still. I think with A, this settled down at around 3 months.

AFM - We had C's feet sculptures taken yesterday. Can't wait to see them all framed up.

C has become such a settled bub. I'm putting him down awake and he drifts off, he is drinking full feeds, burping easier (thanks Sammi and Wind mixture!) and sleeping for 3-4 hours each nap. He went from 7pm - 1.30am last night and was down again at the same time tonight so I'd better be off and try and get some sleep. DF has made sure the house is tidy, clean sheets are on the bed and dinner is cleaned up. THinking he is feeling a little guilty for heading out to football again!

JuzP

13-08-2009, 19:18

Ashdan

13-08-2009, 19:46

Hi everyone

Sammiann - can I just say that "you rock"!!!! Although we have just had an "unsettled day" today, in the main, since we started using the wind mixture on monday, we have had a totally different baby. I am crossing my fingers that it will last.

A question for those ladies that have babies who are being fully formula fed - my little one was very regular in the poo department while he was being breast fed (for the first couple of weeks of his life). Now he is 3 and a half weeks old and has been fully formula fed for the last week or so and he is only pooing every 24 hours or so and it is really very much like toothpaste. I did a fair bit of research when selecting a formula and ended up going with an organic one that got good reviews so I don't think that it the problem. Any advice about the experience of others would be appreciated.

Thanks Heaps :thumbsup:

Sammi - I think you need to organise getting commision on the mixture! :iagree:, you rock!!!

Juz, hope you don't mind me butting in on the Formula/poo question as I have never used it on my boys but when I was nannying, the same happened to the bub I looked after. The doc said it was normal and its sounds like the same with your bub. I think the less poos has something to do with more iron in the formula than BM if I am remembering right. I'd be stoked with less poos :yes: Hope this helps. Am just about to head to bed and am not looking forward to brushing my teeth with toothpaste now :laughing::laughing:

Kidz

13-08-2009, 19:56

Hey there Ashdan .... I was reading your post, and my DD Lily (4 weeks) also hates being wrapped. First week in hospital was bliss, didnt budge .... as soon as we got home ... she will cry until I leave her arms to be free, so I dont bother now. My DS (now almost 3yrs) didnt mind the wrap though. Keep up all the questions ... its what keeps us on the ball ! :yelclap:

Hey girls,

I have a question....Cooper is really windy and takes forever to be burped and 'comfortable' enough to sleep well which is a nightmare at night. Are any of your bubs like this? I'm researching foods to avoid and the nurse at the chemist yesterday said I could try a homeopathic liquid called 'Infant's Friend' which might work. He just seems to little to be giving anything even tho at the same time I'd like to help him.

Also...do any of your bubs hate sleeping on their backs and being wrapped. I'm giving up on the swaddling as he just wriggles his hands out every time and I relented and let Cooper sleep on his side this morning and he settled a lot quicker, without fuss and is still asleep. I'm so paranoid about the SIDS warnings tho.

Sorry for the many questions....

kotakai

13-08-2009, 21:24

A question for those ladies that have babies who are being fully formula fed - my little one was very regular in the poo department while he was being breast fed (for the first couple of weeks of his life). Now he is 3 and a half weeks old and has been fully formula fed for the last week or so and he is only pooing every 24 hours or so and it is really very much like toothpaste. I did a fair bit of research when selecting a formula and ended up going with an organic one that got good reviews so I don't think that it the problem. Any advice about the experience of others would be appreciated.

Cruz is FF & his poos are the same. They are sort of peanut butter consistancy, just a green/black colour. He usually goes once every few days.

MooMum

14-08-2009, 01:31

Hi girls!

Just another quick one from me. We are finally heading home tomorrow so over the weekend I'll catch up and give you all the full attention you deserve!

Hope you are all well. Hugs to bubs and Mums alike :hugs::hugs:

SAMMI - can I please get in on your miracle wind potion?! So far we get it out ok but always good to have something good on hand if required and by all accounts you have what we all need!!!

Be back this weekend. Hugs to you all and welcome to the new Mums and bubs who have joined us :flowerz:

flis

14-08-2009, 08:12

ahhhhh I am hating Australia Post right now - my wind mix is on its way and I am kicking myself that I didn't get it express posted as I am waiting waiting waiting for it to arrive today and usually parcels arrive about 8am here :hissy: was hoping to have a settled weekend but doesn't seem that way. L had done a few of those projectile vomits like A Nic - once the other night - all over her new growbag - and once this morning. She practically brings up her entire feed. Lucky I feel like I have the milk of a cow and she has been able to get back on. I find she does it (was definitely the case this morn) when I have struggled to get a burp so put her back on and she burped mid suck then just brings everything back up. So sad. She doesn't seem phased by it so don't think it is reflux:fingerscrossed:

L has been going really well in her big bed - she has been sleeping just as well if not better than before. And I am finding it great - I can pop her down even for a few minutes while i do something or if she is catnapping between sides etc and am feeling like i have a bit more time to do things. and because i can leave the blanket in there then just wrap her when she lays down she is less disturbed than in the bassinet where i had to pre wrap her. Cannot remember who asked about the size of my bassinet - think it is quite small - it is the Laura rocking cradle from Target. Her growbag is great too- am only going to use it at night as a nighttime cue - and is great as i dont have to unwrap or re wrap her during her night feeds. Apart from the big spew she did on it the first night, its been great!

I am going to see if the girls from my prenatal class want to keep in contact as a mothers group. we have a great cafe nearby which has a yard where toddlers can play and a closed area for smaller bubs. it is wonderful so i am hoping to hold it there. Any GC mums here are welcome to join :-)

I had my checkup with my OB. Pretty much a waste of time - I waited well over an hour for him to be ready then he just asked me a few questions and was ready to show me the door... It was only i mentioned my downstairs issues that he even looked at my stitches etc. Said my bladder is back in place (ie no prolapse) but my front wall is a bit back and should fix itself (but will never be the same which is just a result of childbirth). So that is extremely positive. However, since he hasnt really offered much before and afterwards and didnt attend my birth I am wondering what value i got out of my $1800 Obstetrics bill!!!

Better go - off to post my thank you notes and get a photo album for the 350 pics i have had printed this week. I got my professional pics back this week - maternity and Loukas - and they are gorgeous. will pop some up on FB next week.

And no mr mailman has not arrived with a parcel of wind formula for us yet - damn...

Flis

PS big thanks and hugs to our wise mums with their amazing words of wisdom - you guys are totally saving our first time butts in here! lol

crazykids

14-08-2009, 09:00

:wave: Everyone,
finally get two minutes to write a few lines.
Poor little L has a fever and a sore throat at the moment, so just have to keep the panadol into her. Still feeding really well so lots of wet nappies, poor little thing, wish I could do more.
Otherwise she is a great baby, feel so blessed.she doesn't even cry that much only when she is absolutely starving!!
Usually only wakes once in the night for a small top up feed and thats it.
Got her weighed at the doctors also yesterday and at 6 weeks she is 5 kilos!!! Like someone said a nice little chubby leg for those 8 week needles!!
Also had an ultrasound on l's hips as they were a little clicky after birth, and all is well and doc said they feel fine now.
JuzP - the poos of your little one sounds normal to me. My 3 kids were the same even though L is half breast half formula, was told by a CHN with DD1 if the poos are starting to get hard or turn into little pebbles they need a little extra water by it's self for the stools to soften in the bowel.
MooMum- Yay for moving back home,hope it all goes smoothly for you.
Well better go clean this house!!
Clare

sandy119120

14-08-2009, 10:30

Good morning to everyone

Im trying to replay everytime i get here, bub bubs has another ideas and i cant get to answer.

Nix and Lukie - Im trying to get baby in her bassinet soo far hasnt work. :hair: i should have experience to do this but it gets frustrated. I offer Mia a dummy but she keeps pushing it out. I dont mind to sleep with her but to be honest she needs to learn i got now the flu and i dont want her to sleep with me to protect her.
Nic about reflux i remember my oldest son used to vomit after feed but he never show any sings of pain and asked his peadiatr and he said is common for babies to do that as they way down to his stomach is not very long in babies but most are ok and never develop reflux and he was ok it was less as he grow older.

Ill have to go back to bath baby
i will try to come around soon!! take care!

Ashdan

14-08-2009, 10:54

Flis - You have me excited now! I figure if you have your pics back, mine must be nearly ready too. I can't wait to see them and I had C's feet done the other day and need a pic to put in the frame and thought one of Rachel's would be perfect! I'm going to be waiting for my mailman too now.....Hope your wind mixture arrives. Its awesome! And where is this coffee shop...sounds great for a toddler.

mammabear 2 4

14-08-2009, 10:58

Hi Ladies,

Been awhile since ive been able to post something...very hectic here with 5 kids...but happy to say things have been going ok.

Blake is 8 weeks old now...he had his immunisations last night and he cried the house down....his real tears ran down his little face...poor little bugga felt so bad for him but i know its worth it in the long term.
He was weighed and measured and he is now exactly 5kg or 11lb...56cm long and 39cm HC.
Hes gaining up to 400grams a week. Hes currently still breast feed but still having formula after feed too...some days he wants more and i dont have any more to give but the nurse said its fine...he seems very happy and content...and he sleeps from 9pm to 2-3am most mornings and gets up at 6-7am. So i am very pleased. He goes to bed i go to bed lol

He was a little unsettled last night due to his needles but his wind compaints are slowly under control...he has wind drops in his formula bottle morning and night and that seems to be working for him. Hes alot more alert now and smiles so much...when you talk to him he starts to babble which is so cute.....

Here are some pics of him....
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/chrissy72/photo2.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/chrissy72/photo3.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/chrissy72/photo4.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c199/chrissy72/photo5.jpg

So how is everyone else going? Is there another thread i have missed for photos??

Preshy2008

14-08-2009, 14:53

DF goes back to work next week and I am dreading it. He has been such an amazing help. How will I cope on my own???

I cried three times the day before DP went back to work, I was so scared, but in a way it was nice to get into the swing of things on our own.. DP wanted cuddles all day and I didnt want a cuddle dependant baby.. so it was a blessing in disguise .. and the weekends and evenings are so special now.. you will be fine :hugs:

Ive been thinking about having a wax, the thought of anyone doing anything around there is a bit daunting.. I went and bought a personal grooming kit and trimmed the area and since feel much better, so the next step is to make an appointment. I am waiting until six weeks which is next week, but my stitches have disolved and I generally feel fine down there.. I would do it if you are feeling okay..

[QUOTE=kotakai;3991077]

In his card I did DS's footprints & put a photo of DS wearing a shirt that said I love daddy.

Ive been wondering how I would take Liams footprints, what did you use to do this? I would really love to do something like that for DP.. Im also buying him a remote control helicopter he has had his eye on for months now.. its not terribly sentimental, but he really loves it.. such a big kid!

Anybody else have some good fathers day ideas?

AFU - we are doing fine.. Liam is still on a four hour routine and doing five hours during the night. Ive been topping him up with formula at his final feed for the day, he tends to only take about 50-60 mls, but he seems to really enjoy it.. This week he is so much more alert and I got two smiles today.. one of which was when I was eating some biscuits while cuddling him, I think he liked the noise of the crunching!!?!

I am still trying to express on my right side, so far Im only able to get up to 10mls at a time, its so fustrating.. Liam doesnt enjoy feeding from that side as much and wriggles around alot.. the other side is like a dream he feeds non stop for 20 mins and the attachment feels 'right'..
Im getting fustrated with it, I have called breasfeeding support and they have said to continue to stimulate the nipple by expressing every three hours even if nothing comes out, this will increase supply and should only take a couple of days, so far it hasnt worked..
Do you think its possible to have little supply in one breast?
Im going to try the lactation cookies this weekend, hopefully that works for me.. I am also seeing the MCHN on Wed, crossed fingers she can help.. Ive almost had enough.:hair:

Have good days girls.. Preshy x

babycart

14-08-2009, 15:49

hi everyone

just a quick note from us

Things are going pretty well. To touch on a few themes:

wraps/growbags - i put S in a swaddle overnight and growbag during the day. The only thing i dislike about the growbag is that it bunches up around her face when you are holding her upright

wind / reflux - i think S is doing pretty well in this department - only 2 projectile vomits, she does take a while to burp though and can wake up between feeds with a blue mouth

Sammi - can you please PM me with the wind mix everyone is raving about - just in case we need it

Preshy - i'm having some troubles too - when i express, i can express from both sides but it is very slow to get milk out....sometimes about 20ml in 20mins...from what i've seen, it takes a while (a couple of weeks) to get the expressing working properly and can then expect to get 100ml in 5-10mins. So keep at it - at least that's what I'm doing :yes:

Fathers day gift - I have bought DH a watch that he wants engraved with a message "from his girls" or something like that...DH picked out the watch, and then while we were at the Big W sale, i left the bag on the shelf amongst the nappies....only realised it was missing 30-45mins later......"honey, where did the Prouds bag get put????" thankfully, it had been handed in to the customer service desk

I now owe the universe a good deed - if I can help anyone, please let me know

ok - question from a new mum...

Sophie's tummy looks really round and fat....it sticks out a good 2-3 cm extra wider than her ribs. it isn't hard and she doesn't seem to be bothered if we press it. So is this normal, wind related or something to worry about? :confused:

Our next appt with the nurse is on Wednesday.

ok - better go and get some chores done while S is sleeping - she is such an angel when asleep and according to DH is a little terrorist when she refuses to sleep - he does love her :cloud9:

take care

AC

flis

14-08-2009, 17:14

ok so i need to forgive Aust post - my wind mix came today and has worked so well so far - thank Sam.

Will be back to report tomorrow.

Ashdan - cafe is at palm beach - called Liller Ven - on the beach at 23rd ave maybe... great for toddlers.

see you tomorrow xxx

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

14-08-2009, 18:05

Babycart- now your FB status makes sense. Was wondering about the karma thing! S tummy sounds pretty normal, I think its because babies have an underdeveloped diaphragm or something?
Must admit haven't really given fathers day a thought..we didn't 'do' mothers day this year other than the obligatory mothers day stall pressie from school, so maybe we won't do fathers day either. :devil: Actually, I just remembered that I told him at the time to pay for the 4d scan so that probably counts!

Sandy- If you have the flu but are BFing, Mia should get antibodies from you and might not get sick. :fingerscrossed: I think you are right about the vomiting, she is generally pretty happy after it...sometimes she'll pull her legs up but I think its more of a tired thing.

Moo- YAY for almost being home! Hope your gorgeous baby boy likes the renovations!

CK- No good about Lylah being sick! Glad the hip US came back OK, good thing it was checked properly too! My older sister had congenital hip dislocation and it wasn't picked up till 6 weeks (was missed at the birth check up) and she had to have a brace for 18 months (if it hadn't been picked up until 6 months she wouldn't have been able to walk!)

Flis- no good about the OB :no:...but great news that all is well and there's no prolapse

And a few topics...
Wraps- I have only just restarted wrapping bub (just in muslin wraps) for daytime and night sleeps. She didn't like it the first week but now she does.

Wind/vomits/reflux- I'm a little worried that because A vomits so much that she will vomit in her sleep and choke on it. Sometimes I've had to pick her up as I've heard her gagging on it, so I've been trying to lie her on her side a little. I know they are supposed to lie on their backs but I'm too worried!

Expressing- I feel a little out of the loop here! Am I the only one who hasn't expressed yet? Should I express just in case I need some? :confused: How long can BM be stored for?

All going pretty well here. DH's work sent us a lovely food hamper from a yummy cafe yesterday, so we have a fridge full of meals, jams, sauces etc. :chef: Bub has been sleeping more the last 2 days and after the CHN visit yesterday we are trying our hardest to get her to sleep 2-3hrs between feeds. Doesn't always happen and she has been rather difficult to get to settle. Have now brought her bassinette into the loungeroom for the daytime which isn't ideal but she will not sleep in our room by herself. So one step at a time I suppose...
Has been very strange though as she was spending a lot more time with us before and we were holding her while she slept etc. Have actually gotten a lot of things done the last 2 days but a little sad that I'm pretty much just feeding and changing her and then back to bed.

flis

14-08-2009, 18:34

OK i am back - stuck in the office while DH cleans the floors - god love him!

I cried three times the day before DP went back to work, I was so scared, but in a way it was nice to get into the swing of things on our own.. DP wanted cuddles all day and I didnt want a cuddle dependant baby.. so it was a blessing in disguise .. and the weekends and evenings are so special now.. you will be fine :hugs:

Anybody else have some good fathers day ideas?

Do you think its possible to have little supply in one breast?

I have a friend who only feeds from one side - both her kids hated the left and so she only feeds from the right... might be the same for you? she feeds really well from the right - she just has to pad her bra so her boobs are even!

Re fathers day - DH has been working on a photo book of our europe trip and i think i will get it printed as a surprise for him - has been put on the backburner since miss l arrived so he will be stoked i think.

You guys are lucky having your partners home for so long - DH was off the first week when i was in hospy and was back the next week. its kinda hard bc on the weekends we get all out of wack cause he isnt used to our routine. but he misses her to death and tries so so hard which is great.

Flis - You have me excited now! I figure if you have your pics back, mine must be nearly ready too. I can't wait to see them and I had C's feet done the other day and need a pic to put in the frame and thought one of Rachel's would be perfect! I'm going to be waiting for my mailman too now.....Hope your wind mixture arrives. Its awesome! And where is this coffee shop...sounds great for a toddler.

hope your pics are on the way too! she has done a wonderful job. Katie is coming next week to practice some new stuff on L - am so excited (was meant to happen this week but Ava was sick).

Sophie's tummy looks really round and fat....it sticks out a good 2-3 cm extra wider than her ribs. it isn't hard and she doesn't seem to be bothered if we press it. So is this normal, wind related or something to worry about? :confused:

take care

AC
L's tum is exactly the same - particularly after a feed - its so cute!

Expressing- I feel a little out of the loop here! Am I the only one who hasn't expressed yet? Should I express just in case I need some? :confused: How long can BM be stored for?

I expressed for the first time on the weekend - just before going out just in case, and a second time in the middle of the night when L wasnt so hungary but my boobs were MASSIVE lol! I have stored them in special medela milk bags and i think they last for 3 months? defrost under cold tap which temp increases...

Have a great night girls xxx

Ashdan

14-08-2009, 18:46

Hi all,

I've come in to share my big achievement.... Nik had to do some work this morning for a friend (he's still not working!) and I was stir crazy being at home so I decided to head out with the two boys on my own. I can do it :yelclap: Only went to visit dad at the restaurant..next time I think I'll have to try something a little more adventurous.

Have to thank you girls too for reminding me about grobags. I have a heap in the wardrobe and didn't think to get them out for C.

Just a thought for the girls having trouble with bubs sleeping in bassinets in their rooms. I found this with C too and then realised that its so quiet in our room during the day. He was happier sleeping inhis pram, on us or anywhere we were so I turn the TV on during day naps and he seems to settle a lot easier.

Sandy - I had a cold at the beginning of the week really bad. Touch wood C hasn't got any of it except for a bit of a blocked nose. I was stressing when I went into the chemist to get panadol that he's end up really sick, but he said the same thing that Nic said...the antibodies will be in your milk and bubs will get them and hopefully won't get sick.

Flis - Shame your OB wasn't at your birth after paying all that money. My maintenance fee was only $500 and as she would have come to birth at any hour during the week and is on call every second weekend. Where did you have Louka?

Preshy - When A was around 12 months, my right boob just stopped making milk and he would only feed on my left. At that age tho, he was getting most of what he needed from solids so it wasn't really a problem. The same one last week wasn't making much and I just kept expressing it till nothing came out and for about 10 mins after that) it and its built back up. It took about 3 days.

Crazy - Hope bub is feeling better soon. Its so hard when they are so little and there is nothing you can do.

Ok, have to go...DF is keen to put a DVD on. I don't think I am going to stay awake for it, but I'll try....

Have a good night

MooMum

14-08-2009, 19:49

:smiliedance:WE'RE FINALLY HOME!!!:yelclap:

Just had to share!! It's very exciting to finally bring DS2 home for the first time and DS1 is SOOOO much more content and very happy now so that's a huge relief. Can't tell you how much cleaning we've had to do just to get into the place but it's well worth it!! A lot more to be done and I think by the time we are finished if I never see another paint brush again it will be too soon but it will be gorgeous when we are through!!

Anyway just wanted to share my excitement!! Will be back over the weekend to catch up, hope you are all well.:hugs::hugs::hugs:

KiahsMum

14-08-2009, 21:43

Fathers day - Hoping I don't do the wrong thing here but we use a website called snapfish. DH got me some beautiful photos of DD1 put on canvas through their site for mothers day and I have gotten him a coffee mug with piccies on it for work so he has pics when he is stuck there all day. Thinking I need to get a new one done with pics of both girls on it. We also use it for calendars for xmas pressies for uncles and grandparents etc which are a huge hit :)

Storing breast milk - 3 days in the fridge, 2-3 months in a normal freezer, 6 months in a deep freeze. In all of these put the milk as far from the door as you can. As mentioned above by Flis you can get Medela bags, otherwise there are also the Avent Via containers or just normal feeding bottles in all brands. I use containers/bottles for fridge and bags for the freezer. You can write the date on the bags which makes it easy to know when it is 'out of date'.

Nic I am expressing but Sarah still won't really feed from a bottle so I freeze some and throw some out otherwise I would have a stack of milk and no where in the freezer to put any food :P If your supply is fine no urgency to express and for me it is more a guarantee against a situation where I am sick and have issues with supply or something so have milk on hand.

Moomum - Yay for making it home!!!! Hope it is all done with very soon and you can just enjoy your beautiful home.

Babycart - DD1's tummy still balloons after food at 2!! Very cute, sometimes she looks like ET lol!

AFU - Had Sarah's 4 week appt today. She is now 3.3 kgs but they are a little concerned as she isn't gaining the 150g a week they like to see and is in the 3rd to 10th percentile but Kiah was the same so i am not worried as long as she keeps gaining and growing which she is.

Have ordered the wind mix as recommended by SammiAnn so eagerly awaiting its arrival early next week, poor Sarah is finding it hard to deal with and thus so are we. Have an appt with the paed who was at the C/S next week and hip ultrasound so hoping he has extra advice on the wind issue.

Ok have to get some work done (silly me back at work already! thankfully I work from home and they know I am starting slowly!) hope all our lovely ladies are doing well and getting as much sleep as they can.

Square777

14-08-2009, 23:19

hi girls

sorry this is a me post

had my first cry today, hubby had been out, and zac had pretty much been feeding on off from 8 am.
I was tired and starving! it was about 4pm by this stage, and hubby had been out, so when he got home zac finally settled for a few hours and hubby let me sleep while he tidied etc.

So feel a bit better now.

But we ended up giving him dummy tonight, he just wont settle unless he's fed to sleep which doesn't always work. He wasn't quite sure what to do with the dummy to begin with, but once he got hang of it he settled a bit. i'm worried that it will confuse him with breastfeeding though? Any thoughts?

Its not that he cries a lot, but just won't go to sleep. So i eventually held him to sleep and gave him dummy so he's had a few hours now and I've had a break so bit better.
the last couple of days have been similar, he went form sleeping and feeding really well, and last couple of days just has been feeding for a little while, falling asleep at my boob, can't wake him to take more, then he wakes a short time later wanting more.

I expressed a feed couple of nights ago, 120mls which hubby gave him, but don't think he correlated drinking from bottle with going to sleep, poor hubby was up with him for hour and a half, eventually i got up and fed him for 20 minutes and he went to sleep. I think he is a bit of a piggy!

So anyway, sorry for my vent, just needed to get it out. Hubby has been good, I'm dreading him going back to work next week, he does afternoon shifts. But my mum isn't far away so she will be able to come help me but not much anyone else can do if i'm the one needing to feed him and put him to sleep.

Hopefully he just havinga growth spurt for few days and will settle again.

Just some advice from other mummies

Is there a better way to get him to sleep than holding/feeding him? I'm trying the patting bum in the bassinet but he just fights it and won't nod off.
Should i worry about trying to keep some kind of routine or just let him determine how things are happening when he is hungry etc?

ok well off to wake him for a feed. one good thing is once he finally settles for the night, he has generally been waking around 4am, then 7-8am for a feed after this late one. So fingers crossed they start to stretch out a little.

Square777

14-08-2009, 23:38

sorry also meant to ask, do i need to sterilise dummy or just make sure its clean?

Middie told us when expressign breast milk only need to make sure bottels etc are clean, don't need to be sterilised.

And is it wrong to cuddle or feed baby to sleep? not wrong so much, I know probably a bad habit to start but it means we all get some sleep. Hopefulyl it will only be temporary.
Any suggestions you girls have would be great :bee:

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

15-08-2009, 04:37

Hey Deking, my bub was doing a similar thing and the midwife said she prob isn't sleeping enough in the day so is getting overtired and then falling asleep. My bub will also 'look' for food as one of her tired signs and if I feed her cause I think she's hungry she'll vomit everywhere. Its so hard though, knowing if they really are hungry or just tired. Some babies want to just suckle for comfort and that might be why he is falling asleep so quickly? If u are able to on the weekend give him to your DH when he is 'searching' for food from you (he can smell your milk) and see if he can get him to sleep? I've had to do that quite a few times. We have tried the dummy when we get desperate too but she always spits it out after a few minutes.
Hope u r getting some sleep tonight. Not sure bout the holding to sleep, we had to do that all day yesterday as she wouldn't settle but has been tonight.

Well I was very engorged last night so thought I'd try to express some off ;)... and ouch!!! I only have a manual pump, just a standard medela one- and I only managed about 40mls in half an hour and think I have bruised my nipples! Have kept the 40mls and will hopefully add to it today as I want to see whether the anti-colic bottles help her settle and whether she'll even drink from a bottle...but I think I'll stick to the breast otherwise (or maybe try by hand?). And can't believe I'm saying that this time around! :)

anyway, back to bed for me!

KiahsMum

15-08-2009, 08:47

Nic - expressing should not hurt. I have a medela manual and the most common issues that could cause damage to nipples are the flanges being too small for you or the pressure/pull on the pump being too high. You can get different size/type flanges and it is a case of trying different pressures. I prefer the small electric pumps but know the outlay may not be worth it. I actually have a large double pump milking mahine as we call it hehe and I use that for anything over 20-30ml. Hope this helps!!!

Ashdan - CONGRATS!!!!!!!!! I know how daunting it is to get out with both kids, only managed it on Thursday by myself for the first time.

staceylee

15-08-2009, 08:51

Hi just thought I would quickly pop in. Deking its not wrong to cuddle your baby to sleep when he needs it. Sometimes they just need a little help. We cuddle and rock H to sleep some nights and during the day and other times she is happy self-settle. So its up to you guys and whatever works for you.

Preshy2008

15-08-2009, 09:12

Apologies in advance for spelling mistakes - one handed here!

Preshy - i'm having some troubles too - when i express, i can express from both sides but it is very slow to get milk out....sometimes about 20ml in 20mins...from what i've seen, it takes a while (a couple of weeks) to get the expressing working properly and can then expect to get 100ml in 5-10mins. So keep at it - at least that's what I'm doing :yes:
Thank you babycart - I am trying to express form that side in the middle of each four hour feeding bracket, except at nights.. Its not gettign any better, but without jinxing things, Liam is attaching better on that side in the last 24 hours, so hopefully there is a little more milk for him.. the problem is that he is such a passive baby, rarely crying, so hes not crying for food, he just wriggles and writhes about when we feed on that side... :no:

Wraps- I have only just restarted wrapping bub (just in muslin wraps) for daytime and night sleeps. She didn't like it the first week but now she does.
Expressing- I feel a little out of the loop here! Am I the only one who hasn't expressed yet? Should I express just in case I need some? How long can BM be stored for?
[QUOTE]
I still swaddle Liam up all cosy and tight, he grunts and moans about it at first, but I think he likes it.. When I dont wrap him, he tends to wake up and be more unsettled.. I tried the grobag/sleeping bag and the same thing, I dont think he felt so secure and they also bunch up around his ehad which I dont really like..
Im only expressing to encourage my milk supply on one side.. I origionally expressed on the 'good' side for 24 hours because I had a very sore cracked nipple and the time out helped it heal.. I wouldnt feel left out, although its a good idea to have some on hand for a rainy day..

[QUOTE=Ashdan;3994128]
Preshy - When A was around 12 months, my right boob just stopped making milk and he would only feed on my left. At that age tho, he was getting most of what he needed from solids so it wasn't really a problem. The same one last week wasn't making much and I just kept expressing it till nothing came out and for about 10 mins after that) it and its built back up. It took about 3 days.

Thank you - today is day 2 of full on trying so hopefully it will just get easier every day

Well I was very engorged last night so thought I'd try to express some off ;)... and ouch!!! I only have a manual pump, just a standard medela one- and I only managed about 40mls in half an hour and think I have bruised my nipples! [QUOTE]

I too only have the medela hand pump, do you girls think an elextric hired one from the chemist would make any difference??? If so, I will be running out to get one today..

[QUOTE=deking777;3994901]sorry also meant to ask, do i need to sterilise dummy or just make sure its clean?

Middie told us when expressign breast milk only need to make sure bottels etc are clean, don't need to be sterilised.

And is it wrong to cuddle or feed baby to sleep? not wrong so much, I know probably a bad habit to start but it means we all get some sleep. Hopefulyl it will only be temporary.
Any suggestions you girls have would be great :bee:

Theoretically, as soon as something is taken from the steriliser it is no longer sterile - infact my Tomee Tipee steriliser only keeps equipment sterilised for three hours after a cycle.. I do Liams dummy every second dayish.. he has two or three that he likes so I alternate..

The middies also told me that I dont need to sterilise breastmilk equipment, but it doesnt hurt I guess...

As for cuddling to sleep, its not bad, our babies are so little atm, they need to feel warm and secure and what better place than cuddles from mum or dad or attached to the boobies?? Its just not such a good habit - some of the books say that up to three months habits cant be formed.. ??

[QUOTE=deking777;3994886]hi girls

sorry this is a me post

had my first cry today, hubby had been out, and zac had pretty much been feeding on off from 8 am.
I was tired and starving! it was about 4pm by this stage, and hubby had been out, so when he got home zac finally settled for a few hours and hubby let me sleep while he tidied etc.
[QUOTE]

:hugs: to you.. first cry though? Good on you for lasting this long! Sleep deprivation is horrible!!!

Just another quick question - Liam is 5 (and a half) weeks old and is starting to sleep from around 8-9pm to 3-4am.. which is lovely of course, do you girls think that at this age he should still be waking four hourly?

Anyway, its supposed to be 21 degrees here in Melbourne - so nice! I hope all the Melbournians make the most of the improving weather this weekend - enjoy :thumbsup:

Preshy xxx

The Fox

15-08-2009, 09:37

hi everyone been MIA the last week Oliver's reflux has decided to rear its ugly head up, poor boy i have had to hold him all day everyday this week. His fine when he eats but after about 30 mins he os screaming in pain, vomitting heaps and its so it must feel hot when it comes up i can only imagine what it feels like for him, and when he cries in pain his face goes red and tears stream down his face, it really breaks my heart, he doesnt get it all the time, dairy sets it off and we have been able to manage ir ok with eliminating dairy from my diet but i must of had some accidentally - oh well he seems to be improving this morning

fathers day presents im getting Olivers hamds and feet sculptures done in gold for DP im so excited

moomum :smiliedance: yay for being back in your home must feel great

decking- with Oliver's dummies i boil them once a day along with my nipple shields, i just put them in a pot and boil for about 5 mins, i never bothered with a fancy sterilizer although if i was bottle feeding id probably buy one

kiahsmum wow i cant believe you are working already, you must be super organised, actually you must just be superwoman

nic ouch sounds painful, i have an electric breast pump that is a double, its the medela pump instyle advanced i cant recommend it enough, a bit pricey but as im going back to uni next year we thought it was worth the investment, i have also heard the medela swing is good and i think ts a little cheaper, maybe its something you could look into

ashdan congrats on leaving the house with both kids, must feel great now to know you can do it

flis yay for getting your pics back from the ones you have shared with us they are amazing

AFM well my house is a mess and i have washing piled up to my ears, but with Oliver being unwell i just gavent been able to get on top of it all, so im going to be really lazy and hire a cleaner to come once a week until things settle down, i feel bad for DP when he comes home from work and the house is a mess and im lucky if i get a chance to make dinner, it makes me feel guilty but i think its just about getting used to things and getting into a routine, for those who already kids how long until you got back into the swing of things

sandy119120

15-08-2009, 12:07

Good morning girls,
i hope i can finish this post today =)

Nic- I asked my sister what was recommended to her for her girls(both had reflux) im sure yours is fine but i just asked her about you being worry if Amaya vomits while she is in bed. SHe said her paed told her to rise a bit her head while she in lying down so it improves her reaflux. I agree with everyone pump or use eaither electric or manual pump shoundt hurt i have both and electric pump and a manual and they are both fine.

Crying - to all who are having hard time when DH goes bact to work a big big :hugs:. I know is not easy.

Sleep - Im not too sure how long a baby should sleep well my first one i follow what they said he nees to be feed every often so i used to woken up to feed him. My second couldnt wake up he still sleeps a lot so i just fed him when he was hungry his weight was always perfect. ANd Mia is kind of the same she sleeps a lot and she has put 1000 grms she was 3.4 and now she is 4.4 kg. since she was born 3 weeks and nurses are happy with her. I was also told sleeping is very good for babies as feed is.

MooMum - Very good you are finally at home! hope everything setttles fine with bub.

Deking - I do sterilise my dummy twice a day or just if i found on the floor.

Flis - wonderful pics!!!!:goodvibes:.

Cassii - Sorry to hear about bub's reflux not getting better. I know it is painful for them. Im not too sure what i can help but try to keep baby's head higher than his body.

Ashdan - Yahaa for getting out with the kids!!!

AFU - Mia did sleep last night for 5 hours in the bassinet it took 8 times to getting her back till she finally went to sleep. well im happy. My flu is getting better and so hopefully i pass some good antib to Mia.

Hope you all have wonderfull weekend!!!:goodvibes:

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DS1 :cool: 23/08/02
DS2:sunshine: 25/10/06
DD:bee: 21/07/09
And two beautiful angels

This is it!!!

oscarjessie

15-08-2009, 15:03

Hi everyone,

Well I have finally made it into this thread....my little man Oscar arrived 11days overdue. I was induced, however no amount of syntocin would make him budge or make my uterus contract properly so he was delivered by c-section on august 5. I have been home a week now and enjoying it, although my parents who are staying here are driving me bonkers. Nothing like being a first time mum trying to settle a baby with someone constantly suggesting things like, maybe he is hungry, he is tired, he must have wind etc. Poor df is on the verge of killing my mum!

Df goes back to work on Monday and I am dreading it. The poor thing feels like he has hardly had any time with just us after all of the visitors etc.

Bf is going well and have only had a few unsettled patchs so far. I have been reading back through all of the posts getting lots of tips while I have been feeding in the middle of the night, so thankyou for sharing your experiences.

Now that df is going back to work I will post more often during the day. Hope everyone has a good night with their bubs.

C, I, O xxxxx

Sassy75

15-08-2009, 16:19

I too only have the medela hand pump, do you girls think an elextric hired one from the chemist would make any difference??? If so, I will be running out to get one today..

I use a Medela electric one hired from the hospital...it is brilliant. Doesn't hurt and I get 50ml from each breast each time I express. Have been doing it a lot less lately because he seems to have got the knack of BF thankfully :fingerscrossed:

Just another quick question - Liam is 5 (and a half) weeks old and is starting to sleep from around 8-9pm to 3-4am.. which is lovely of course, do you girls think that at this age he should still be waking four hourly?

Archie is only 2 weeks old today and last night he slept from 9.30pm to 4am and then after a feed from 5am to 9am. I don't want to jinx myself by saying he is a great sleeper but I don't think there are any rules about newborns and sleep. I think it is pretty normal for them to sleep a lot isn't it?? I freaked out when I woke up at 2am and he was still asleep and went and checked him and he was snoring his head off!! I don't wake him to feed. It is not worth the grief.

Deking - :hugs:- I cry almost daily so don't feel bad!! I have no idea why half the time!! Re dummies...I was adamant I would not give my baby a dummy but like most rules I had about motherhood it went out the window the day we got home from hospital!! We just bought one that was shaped most like a nipple and he still feeds from breast and bottle fine. Just calms him down when he is hysterical and we are careful not to overuse it.

Re settling - this is my biggest challenge at the moment. I put A in his cot and he just won't go to sleep on his own but I don't want to get into bad habits of having to rock him.

Sammi - thanks for the wind info. Have tried Brauer and gripe water and he still seems to be in pain which makes settling hard so hope this works. I just hate to see him cry and be so uncomfortable. Anyone else watched Dunstan Baby Language? I think I can read the cries now and most seem to be wind related.

Re partners going back to work - my DF has had 2 weeks off and has been nothing short of amazing so I am packing myself about next week. I think I will have a meltdown on Sunday night.

MooMum- yah for being home. Sounds like things are settling down for you hun which is great :)

Flis - gorgeous pics of Miss L I just saw on FB.

Nic/Kimmi/Moo/OJ - feel like it's been ages since we were all LIW...miss you ladies and hope you are all doing well :)

Well as Preshy said it is a stunning day in Melbourne today. I had a little sunbake before and got some Vitamin D on my c/s wound and my nipples :o Good thing A was sleeping and no one was home...and we have high fences!!

Lukie

15-08-2009, 16:23

Another quick pop in from me... feel so over it at this time of day- just wanted to read how everyone else is going and feel normal that life isn't all sunny despite the lovely weather.

OJ- IKWYM about the parents. Whilst my mum has generally been ok (they live a few streets away, and she's mostly been helping in practical ways with housework, groceries etc) every interaction that we've had that involves B is so horribly frustrating and upsetting for me. LIke this morning. B is unsettled, and just being weird??? I fed her, put her back in bed with me, she nodded off, then despite my still being next to her and cuddling her, woke up again. This happened twice more, and by the third time she was inconsolable- couldn't settle her lying down, had to pick her up. Anyway, mum comes over and she's all like- she's mouthing, put her on the breast ( I have ALWAYS hated being told what to do! Major button with me!). I say, I don't think so, I fed her not long ago. She's tired, that's why she's mouthing. SO mum holds her a bit more, blah blah, blah baby talking to her, you must be hungry, what;s the matter, etc, then B yawns and mum says "Oh, she must be tired!" as if she had just thought of that and I hadn't said the exact same thing 5 mins ago! So I kinda snapped and I said, "Well I just said that but you don't believe me!" and mum was all like "Of course I believe you, I didn't say I don't believe you..." Anyway, I ended up BF her to settle her, and sure enough within 5 mins she was asleep!

I don't know if sleep deprivation and hormones are making me go :hair::banghead::dizzy: but I have no tolerance or patience these days. I really resent being told what my baby needs as if she (mum) was here through the night and through the day and has any clue what's been going on. She walks in for 5 mins and suddenly she knows B better than I do... And I havent heard anything positive (not that my mum is good with giving verbal encouragement) but everything seems to come across like she knows best and I have no idea :hair:

Ugh, sorry that ended up being all about me. I hate Saturdays! DH is at work and my mum is at home and ends up coming over and I have a crappy day as a result. Sorry girls, I'll have to come on tomorrow and do some more personals. I'm spent.

kotakai

15-08-2009, 17:18

Arrgghhh!!! I did a huge post yesterday which I can now see is not there :geek:

WE'RE FINALLY HOME!!!

Woohoo!!! Congrats. It must feel wonderful to be in there.

Just another quick question - Liam is 5 (and a half) weeks old and is starting to sleep from around 8-9pm to 3-4am.. which is lovely of course, do you girls think that at this age he should still be waking four hourly?

I would say, woohoo for you :smiliedance: He'll wake if he's hungry.

Here are some pics of him....

Awww, Blake is gorgeous :goodvibes: Love the smiling one. Still waiting for Cruz to start smiling.

Ive been wondering how I would take Liams footprints, what did you use to do this? I would really love to do something like that for DP..

I used to scrapbook, so have lots of ink & acrylic paint & just used that. Hands can be tricky as they tend to keep them clenched in a fist, so if you wanted to do his hands as well, maybe see if someone can help you.

Sophie's tummy looks really round and fat....it sticks out a good 2-3 cm extra wider than her ribs. it isn't hard and she doesn't seem to be bothered if we press it. So is this normal, wind related or something to worry about?

Cruz's tummy is like this too & due to DD's previous history, I freaked. His dr & paed both said it was OK, but I was so paranoid I took for an ultrasound, which was fine. So, I'd say, get the nurse to have a look when you go, but I'm sure it's totally normal.

hi everyone been MIA the last week Oliver's reflux has decided to rear its ugly head up, poor boy i have had to hold him all day everyday this week.

Cruz also has terrible reflux & does the burning hot vomits. We've had no luck with meds working yet, am now trying a different one. But I took him to a chiro twice last week, & the change is amazing!!!!!! I would highly recommend it to everyone. He's much more settled & actually sleeps in the day now :smiliedance:

Hi everyone,

Well I have finally made it into this thread....my little man Oscar arrived 11days overdue.

Congrats!!!!!!!!

Well now for my exciting news for the week. I got Cruz weighed, & at almost 12 weeks he's a whopping 5.2kgs :smiliedance: This is so exciting for us. He was born at the same gestation as Chais, but at this age Chais was only 4kgs. So happy to think we may not have the weight problems Chais has.

Hope you're all having a lovely weekend :wave:

Square777

16-08-2009, 13:26

Hi girls
finally a quick minute to post some replies, although i musn't tell a lie, i haven't had a chance to read back through the whole thread, only the last page or 2.

kotakai- congrats on the weight gain, must feel like a great sense of achievement for you, and a relief.

Lukie- I so hear you on being told what to do :D Especially when the advice is unwarranted, and it isn't advice so much as being told what to do! I know its so hard to do, but maybe say to your mum next time she wants to come round, that you just need a little alone time as you're feeling overwhelmed by visitors and just need a break. And if she says she'll come help you, just be firm and say you need some true 'me' time.

Sassy- laughed at your sunbaking! We had said we'd take it as it comes with dummies, Z still isn't always having it, it will be a sleep time thing only, but we only use it for settling, half the time he doesn't want it anyway. He looks at you like you think he's stupid, he knows its not a boob damn it!! The settling is going to be challenging. But felt big sense of achievement yesterday, we were at my dads, and managed to put him to sleep in car/pram, and later in day he was in pram and unsettled, but pushed him back to sleep so felt a littel proud! Well done on the sleeping routine!

Oj- Congrats on Oscar! My hubby is back to work Monday too, so I know the dread you are feeling. And its a pity he feeld left out with your parents, any chance you could move them out a little sooner? could you possibly ask them to go out for a night to give you guys some alone time as a family? I understand it is so hard though, you feel obliged to please everyone else. But in teh end your bubby is only this small once, and you and your partner only get one chance to enjoy it. Your parents should understand this just try talking to them and be honest. Good luck :hugs:

Sandy- glad your flu is on the mend. Gald you and your family are settling in well together, sound like you have it all under control! I don't know how you do it with 3, one is hard enough!

Cassii- I understand what you mean, its so heartbreaking to watch your baby in pain and cry and not be able to fix it :hugs:that little look on the face just melts you. Hope the reflux settles soon, think it was mentioned before but try propping the mattress head end up, but safely of course. Maybe a small pillow or towel under neath the mattress or something to elevate it.

Preshy- I'm no BF expert, still figuring it out as we go. But on the 'bad' side, maybe try hand expressinga littel first to soften the nipple. I find if I'm too full, Z won't latch properly just wriggles his head like you said. But i definitely have one side he feeds on way better than the other.
As for the sleeping at night, i did read somewhere that after about 6 hours a baby's blood sugar levels will drop. So I'm not sure about waking them, but i sure wish Z would sleep that long ;) Maybe have a read on net.

Kiah- Hope you and bubby are doing well, i read your birth story and it sounds like everythign went very well for you so i'm very pleased for you all. :flowerz:

Nic- I have a avent manual isis pump, have expressed a few times with it, and find it works really well. Hubby did a feed last ngiht cos I've had another migraine, but i expressed when i woke up off both sides cos was nice and full, got about 120mls off each side. But my left for soem reason makes more than my right, have gotten up to 180mls off it! I'd offer to share my excess except Z is a lttile piggy and wants it all ! but I'm glad the feeding is going well for you this time round.

Well thanks for the replies girls, after ym cry the otehr day, Z has been quite good yesterday, and today is doing well so far, but he keeps feeding himself to sleep this morning.
but oh well, has given me chance to write this post

Anyway, hubby back to work tomorrow so bit scared, he's been so good, he is very hands on, has even been projectile pooed on and has perservered!! i thought he'd vomit but he coped, I laughed so hard!!

hope you're all having good weekend :flowerz:

staceylee

17-08-2009, 09:56

Nic i have a Avent Isis manual pump if you would like to borrow it. Just pm me your address and i'll send it. I really liked it. It helped heaps.

flis

17-08-2009, 18:14

Hi Girls

Just a quick message from me. Just wanted to say how well Sammi's wind mix is working for us - L is no longer spew hiccuping every feed, nor has she projectile vomited since. Her burps are heaps quicker - though she still makes me work for some - and she doesnt seem to bring up much if any milk when she does.

Also, feel like I am turning a corner - as of last night. L was unsettled and we really didnt know why. I decided to get back to basics and pull out the dunstan baby language guide again and really listen to her cries - it was amazing she was giving the upper wind cry, within 5 secs of her burping it went to the hungry cry and back and forth for what felt like forever - nearly fed her constantly between 5.30 and 8.45!!! - and eventually the cries stopped and she fell asleep. She slept really well too. I did it again today - really listened to work out when she was full and she then played a bit then slept from 7.30 till 9.50. feeling so much better now so hopefully it will keep working!

Better go - Love Flis xx

mammabear 2 4

18-08-2009, 09:32

Awww, Blake is gorgeous :goodvibes: Love the smiling one. Still waiting for Cruz to start smiling.

Well now for my exciting news for the week. I got Cruz weighed, & at almost 12 weeks he's a whopping 5.2kgs :smiliedance: This is so exciting for us. He was born at the same gestation as Chais, but at this age Chais was only 4kgs. So happy to think we may not have the weight problems Chais has.

Hope you're all having a lovely weekend :wave:

Wow Cruz is 12 weeks already...time has flown by...you mentioned that he is a wooping 5.2kgs at 12 weeks...well Blake is already 5kg at 8weeks....and i think hes already gone over the 5.5kg mark.

Ive been unwell for the last week but kept putting it down to over doing things around the house but the weekend came and i crashed big time....i had 40+ temps....chills....and the most painful sore throat ever....i went to the doctors and i have both pharangitis and laranynxitis...so ive only crawled out of bed today to pay bills....hubby took yesterday off so i could sleep and only woke me for my diabetes appointment ...which all my tests have came back in the normal healthy range so type II diabetes isnt a big factor but i still have to monitor my sugar levels yearly....i have stopped breastfeeding now....it was a sad day but i was so sick i couldnt stay awake long enough to feed and i didnt want the meds and pain relief to go to him....and he is doing well...

Hope everyone else is doing well...blake is 9 weeks now...:flowerz:

babeone

18-08-2009, 10:16

hi everyone have been mia the last few days as been super busy and Tilly has decided she doesnt like to sleep- aagh!!.

The last 3 days she just will not fall asleep unless being rocked and even then it takes a good half an hour and until she is absolutely exhausted she will only fall asleep lightly... what happened to my sleeper??

Sorry for the me post but gotta clean the house and put some dinner in the slow cooker before going to visit a friend.

Managed to do my footprints for DP- just used plaster filler from bunnings- he loved it- all i need to do is spray varnish it.

Anyway bbl to do some personals... hope your all well...

flis

18-08-2009, 10:24

hugs to mumma bear - hope you are feeling better darling.

babeone - hopefully miss t will sleep for you today xxx

Question for those using Sammi's wind mix - i have the three bottles - do i need to keep buying or is one course enough??? we are going away next week and want to get some more before we go if i need to.

L was a model for a friend this week... not sure if i can put details on here but they are on my fb page. so cute!

L is crying so will bbl

MooMum

18-08-2009, 13:19

Hi ladies! :wave:

I finally have time to sit and write a decent post. ATM I have 7, count them SEVEN strange men in my house and I'm moving from room to room with D out of their way! I'm a little over it now.

Anyway...

Kotokai - I cannot believe Cruz is 12 weeks old!! Where did that time go?! Great news on the weight gain, way to go Mum!!!

Flis - saw the pics of Miss L, OMG SOOOOO beautiful!! They are amazing! What a lovely keepsake for you to have.

mamabear - hope you feel better soon, look after yourself.

Sassy - hello my lovely!! I miss you too! Hope you are well and your little man is being kind!!! Am sending you big hugs.:hugs:

Nic - hi chicken legs!!! :laughing: Sorry feeling a little cheeky! How is the gorgeous Miss A? D was blushing from the kiss she sent him!!!

Sammi - haven't ordered the wind mix yet, but thank you for the info I'm sure it will come in handy!! Hope you are well :hugs:

CMD - we must tee up a get together now I am home, Miss L will be walking soon!!

Ok...

BF'ing - I am not able to BF D as it's just too damn painful and bleeding cracked nipples were making it impossible. I am however expressing for him. I had to do this with DS1 as he had an undiagnosed tongue tie so I expressed for 5 months. I can't do that this time with a 2yo and a newborn. I'm expressing in the morning and at night and so far have kept ahead of him but he seems to be having a growth spurt the last few days and drinking loads!!! I have baked some of the lactation boosting cookies to see if they help. My supply has been great up to now but now I'm only expressing twice a day it's not enough.

Sleep - D sleeps well at night we seem to get a 5-6 hour run, occassionally longer, much different than with DS1 who lost weight and we had to set an alarm 3hrly to wake HIM for feeds.

I am really enjoying being a second time Mummy. It's no where near as stressful as the first time round. Of course it's harder with DS1 to look after as well but he is coping really well with his little brother!

For those of you whose partners went back to work this week, I hope you are coping well. I remember how hard and frightening it was. I'm certainly not looking forward to DH going back to work next week, am even more resentful of it as we've not really had much time together because of doing things for the house.

Anyway, it's feeding time at the zoo again!!

Hope you are all well, big squeezes to the bubs!! :hugs::hugs:

SammiAnn

18-08-2009, 16:27

Afternoon girls,

Sorry I have been MIA. Have been enjoying the wonderful company of BHer kazc and her lovely DH. Put them back on the plane this afternoon (much to mine and DD2's sadness).

So glad to hear some of you girls and bubs are having good news with the wind mixture. Flis - I just order three bottles at a time. With Alex I only used one and a half bottles before I had to reorder and I missed three days of using it while I waited for it to arrive and he hasn't needed it since. I started him on at at one week so I think it 'trained' him to bring the wind up better. From memory DD1 was the worst of mine with wind and I didn't find the mixture until she was six weeks and she used it for two months I think (my memory ain't what it used to be! I just hope it's having a nice holiday without me :laughing:). I would suggest using the three bottles and maybe give three days to see if it's still needed but maybe order another couple to ahve on hand incase bub needs it again. Hope that makes sense and is of some help.

Best of luck with your expressing MM, you are doing a wonderful job hun :hugs:.

Alex has his needles today at 9 weeks. He did very well and didn't need a feed to settle :yelclap:. DH and I took advantage of the whooping cough offer and had our needle too. I didn't realise it contains tetanus too so now we're boosted for that as well.

After having a bit of a shocker last week our little man seems to have switched back to his calm self :smiliedance:! Fingers crossed the needles don't play havoc with him tonight.

Hope you are all well girls, I'll catch up with you all soon. I've just joined FB myself so will try and figure out where you all are on there.

Sam :flowerz:

staceylee

18-08-2009, 16:40

Hi everyone!! Harper's sleeping atm so I thought I would do some personals while I have the chance before she wakes up.

Moo - Very happy to hear you are enjoying being a second time mum and great work with the expressing :yelclap:

Flis - I saw the photos of Miss L on FB and they are amazing!!!! Your friend did a great job!!

Babeone - I hope Tilly setttles better for you soon. Harper has been doing that a few nights a week. Its usually Friday and Saturday night when DHs turn to take her so I can sleep :laughing:

Mammabear - I hope your feeling better hun!!

Cassiiii - I hope your little guy is doing better.

Ok I think thats all. I will have to go back over the pages later.

Um re Dummies - Harper has just started taking hers a little better which is good because we fly to tassie next month and I hope it helps with her ears popping and stuff. Any advice about flying with a baby would be great and how much to pack for her.

DP/DH/DFs going back to work - Dh has been back at work since H was 2 1/2 weeks old and I rang him in tears and asked him to come and get her because I thought I couldnt do it! Did I mention he had only been gone for 2hrs? :laughing: but we are doing great now and even go out be ourselves. Sending you all warm positive thoughts for when your partners go back to work. YOU ARE ALL AMAZING WOMEN AND WILL DO GREAT!!!!!!

I am going to a hens night on friday night. It will be the first time I have spent more than 10mins totally away from Harper and I kind of looking forward to it but know all I will think about is her and how her and DH are going. It will also be the first time DH has looked after her all by himself without me or my mum around!! I know he will do great and he is really looking forward to the daddy-daughter time. I am going to miss her so much!! The nights DH does the feeds and settling I miss her and she is in the same room as me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Harper and I shared a shower last night. It was the best thing ever!!! I havent really had that much skin to skin time with her since just after she was born!! She loved the water running down her face and even smiled at me!!! It was the BEST ever :cloud9: I have never seen her so relaxed as she was after her shower last night.

Ok well I think thats enough from me.

Hope you all have a lovely night!!

flis

18-08-2009, 18:19

Dying here girls. Miss L is having a feeding frenzy today - just starving all day... and we tried to give her an expressed bottle but no good she wouldnt take it just kept screaming.... this morning i decided i woudlnt get out of my pjs bc i wanted to sleep all day and havent had more than 1 hr all day where L hasnt been attached to me!

better go she just pooed on her towel after her bath with DH! lol

Ashdan

18-08-2009, 18:53

Hi all,

I'm having a day like Flis today! I think I've gotten off the couch for all of 10 mins when I've needed to use the loo. Not only has C been feeding all day but I haven't been able to put him down to sleep. He's just had to be attached to me.

Stacey - I've been wanting to put C in the shower with either of us. You made it sounds so lovely, I'm going to try tomorrow.

Sammi- We got our needles too last week. No one mentioned that it covered us for tetanus too. Bonus! Glad Alex was a brave boy for you today :yelclap:

Moo - So jealous of the sleep you are getting.

Flis - C has been on the wind mixture for a week. I missed a couple of doses yesterday and found he didn't really need it so held him out and he hasn't had any since yesterday. I've found tho like Sammi said, its like he's learnt to bring it up on his own. He's also not guzzling and 'choking' on the milk.

:wave: to everyone else. Hope you're all enjoying every minute with bubs

Preshy2008

18-08-2009, 19:31

:wave: Evening Girls!!

Hi everyone,

Well I have finally made it into this thread....my little man Oscar arrived 11days overdue.
Df goes back to work on Monday and I am dreading it. The poor thing feels like he has hardly had any time with just us after all of the visitors etc.

Congratulations!! We too have had five weekends full of visitors and its starting to drive me bonkers.. I dont want to be rude and say no, especially to well meaning aunties and family friends.. There is still a list of people I havent seen for ages that want to meet our little man.. I feel like it will never end! We try and make either Sat or Sun family day.. at least one afternoon.. DP cherishes his 'family time'..

We had said we'd take it as it comes with dummies, Z still isn't always having it, it will be a sleep time thing only, but we only use it for settling, half the time he doesn't want it anyway. He looks at you like you think he's stupid, he knows its not a boob damn it!!
but i expressed when i woke up off both sides cos was nice and full, got about 120mls off each side. But my left for soem reason makes more than my right, have gotten up to 180mls off it! I'd offer to share my excess except Z is a lttile piggy and wants it all !

Dummies: Liam loves his dummy, hes not too good at keeping it in consistantly, but it definately helps him self settle..

Expressing: Im sooo jealous of you girls being able to express 120 mls each side, at a time.. I wish.:(

I baked the lactaction cookies - YUMMO! But, I have eaten half the batch in two days!!!

My milk has increased some, especially on the bad side, which is im grateful for - I am going to keep perservering with the expressing and Im going to bake the second half of my biccie batch tomorow...

Ive been unwell for the last week
I hope you feel better soon x

Harper and I shared a shower last night. It was the best thing ever!!! I havent really had that much skin to skin time with her since just after she was born!! She loved the water running down her face and even smiled at me!!! It was the BEST ever :cloud9: I have never seen her so relaxed as she was after her shower last night. [QUOTE]

I cant wait to have a shower with Liam, but Im a little scared that he will slip out of my hands or something.. But it sounds lovely!

[QUOTE=flis;4003539]better go she just pooed on her towel after her bath with DH! lol

LOL!! The glorious world of poo!

AFU: Liam had a tough day yesterday, poor muffin.. he hasnt been pooing for around 4-5 days and yesterday he clearly had a pain in the tummy that was waking him up.. I was so scared something was wrong with him, I packed him up and took him to nannas and she gave me a little break from him.. we stayed there for a while and his pains seemed to go away.. at 11pm I changed his bottom after his feed and there was the biggest poo I have ever seen.. so lucky, I think I caught it just before it was about to leak.. I used nearly half a packet of wipes!!
Going from a poo at each nappy change to one in 5 days was a bit worrying but everyone assures me its normal for breasfed babies.. I was concerned his formula top up at nights was blocking him up.. but I think its more normal than I thought..
Trust a first time mum to hit the panic buttons like a crazy person because there was no poo!

Physically, I am starting to feel better.. although I now have thrush on my nipples... grrrr (what other challenges can I come up against!?!?) I went to the chemist today and they gave me oral drops to give to Liam and put on my nipples in cherry flavour.. he doesnt seem to mind the taste too much.. I think my nipples feel a bit better already..

Going to the MCHCN tomorow, they are probably dreading me going in - the woman with everything wrong with her!!:laughing:

Take care all

Preshy

Square777

18-08-2009, 20:16

well now i don't feel so alone reading that you girls are having similar days to me

Z has slept about 2-3 hours total since being fed at 9 m. he just won't sleep. he's been happy enough except when he's hungry.

Once he feeds he falls asleep, but if i try put him down anywhere he wakes himself up.

And it seems he wants to feed on and off in the evenings. i don't know if it is hunger or something else.

what is this magic wind mixture you all talking about?

ok well going to try put my boy down, my arm hurts and i'm hungry and need a toilet break.

Any suggestions would be welcome

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

19-08-2009, 00:57

Hi girls!
Good to see I'm not the only one who has been absent the last few days-its been so quiet in here!!

Nic i have a Avent Isis manual pump if you would like to borrow it. Just pm me your address and i'll send it. I really liked it. It helped heaps.

Aww thanks honey what a lovely offer. I'll give the Medela another go first and try turning the suction right down. I also realise that the reason I didn't get much out was that it wasn't too long after a feed. :o Don't know when else I'd try though as it feels like she's always on there!! Also she almost choked herself on the bottle drinking too fast even with the newborn anti-reflux teats.

Hi Girls

Just a quick message from me. Just wanted to say how well Sammi's wind mix is working for us - L is no longer spew hiccuping every feed, nor has she projectile vomited since. Her burps are heaps quicker - though she still makes me work for some - and she doesnt seem to bring up much if any milk when she does.

Also, feel like I am turning a corner - as of last night. L was unsettled and we really didnt know why. I decided to get back to basics and pull out the dunstan baby language guide again and really listen to her cries - it was amazing she was giving the upper wind cry, within 5 secs of her burping it went to the hungry cry and back and forth for what felt like forever - nearly fed her constantly between 5.30 and 8.45!!! - and eventually the cries stopped and she fell asleep. She slept really well too. I did it again today - really listened to work out when she was full and she then played a bit then slept from 7.30 till 9.50. feeling so much better now so hopefully it will keep working!

Better go - Love Flis xx

Aww Flis I always love reading your posts, you are such a good mummy to Louka! :yes:

Wow Cruz is 12 weeks already...time has flown by...you mentioned that he is a wooping 5.2kgs at 12 weeks...well Blake is already 5kg at 8weeks....and i think hes already gone over the 5.5kg mark.

Ive been unwell for the last week but kept putting it down to over doing things around the house but the weekend came and i crashed big time....i had 40+ temps....chills....and the most painful sore throat ever....i went to the doctors and i have both pharangitis and laranynxitis...so ive only crawled out of bed today to pay bills....hubby took yesterday off so i could sleep and only woke me for my diabetes appointment ...which all my tests have came back in the normal healthy range so type II diabetes isnt a big factor but i still have to monitor my sugar levels yearly....i have stopped breastfeeding now....it was a sad day but i was so sick i couldnt stay awake long enough to feed and i didnt want the meds and pain relief to go to him....and he is doing well...

Hope everyone else is doing well...blake is 9 weeks now...

Sorry to hear that you're sick. :( Hope you're on some AB's to make it better. Lots of hugs.

Moo- 7 strange men hey? Are they short and do they sing???? :detective: When does the work finish? Miss A has a slight tongue tie too (try saying those 3 words fast!)...but the LC said it shouldn't interfere with feeding as hers is only slight...she's been stretching her tongue by poking it out at us now anyway!

Taking a break there as A has finished one side and will not wake for the other... :hair:Hope she doesn't change her mind in an hour or so.

will finish personals in 3 or so hours time. ;)

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

19-08-2009, 05:07

OK... the saga continues... part2

Typing left handed though which is hard!!

For those having shots they are tetanus, diptheria and whooping cough... so 3 in 1! DH has to have one but he's sick with a nasty cold thing ATM so will when he's better.

Sammi- glad u had a good time away! Yay for FB! That reminds me I changed the name of the group since we're no longer 'Due in July'. Hope noone minds!

Stacey- Yay for showers with bub! I've had a couple now, once because we were both covered in vomit! I have to do it when DH is home though so he can come get her out afterward!

Ashdan and Flis- Sounds like you guys have had some hard days! I have been feeling like I'm constantly feeding cause bub has been wanting to feed every 2-3 hrs lately... but you guys sound like it's even more than that. Big hugs, hope today is better!

Preshy- no good about the thrush! Hope it settles down for you! Good luck at the clinic today!

Deking- Miss A sounds a lot like Z! She also doesn't like to sleep in the day but then gets so overtired and squirmy that she'll only sleep in our arms. Does he sleep if he's in a pram or the carseat going somewhere? We've been making Amaya sleep in the day but it's very hard! Sometimes she's up for 4 hours or more when it's not meant to be over an hour at this age. Very frustrating!

AFU:
:) Happy things:
*A seems more settled overall lately. SHe doesn't scream after a bath like she used to, so I think she's getting used to us or something?
*She's been giving us so many smiles and even as I write this she's gurgling at me- even though she's supposed to be going to sleep.
*BFing is going pretty well still. Have trouble latching sometimes but overall I'm pretty happy and my nipples are in good shape again. I've found the Palmers nursing butter way better than Lanolin which was far too sticky.
*DH is still off work till 31st, so pretty wrapt with that!

Sad things :(: *I actually haven't had many visitors? The first week or so our families came down, both our mums live here but they both have the flu/cold thing so obviously staying away (which I'm grateful for!)... but only 4 of my friends have even contacted me about catching up :confused:... have caught up with 3 and te third is recovering from Swine Flu so will catch up with her later. But a few of my (what I considered) good friends from work haven't really bothered. None of them have kids themselves so maybe thats part of it? I'm a bit disappointed though, even when I was in hospital in the same building only 1 work friend came up? A few ppl said they didn't want to crowd us in the first week... but she's almost 3 weeks old now.
* DH has been wonderful and cooking tea every night but I'm finding myself frustrated at him sometimes, esp at night when I'm feeding bub while he gets to sleep and then he sometimes sleeps in longer too! Also he won't change pooey nappies. :thumbsdown:Don't know if its cause she's a girl and he doesn't know how to clean her? But it feels like I have all the hard jobs when it comes to her and he gets to play with her and have fun? OK...rant over I feel bad now cause he just came out to give me a break!

Well, I'm going back to bed. xxx

Square777

19-08-2009, 08:04

quickie from me, just eating some coco pops then heading back to bed. ( so healthy i know) Z just ahd his longest sleep I think! Woke up at 3 so fed him tehn, asleep by 4, then woke at 7.30. Sounds like not long, but from feed to feed longest he's gone I think.
Hopefully he wore himself out being awake all day yesterday and is tired now!

nic- Sorry you having rough time with A. For all Z's painfullness yesterday he finally went to sleep about 8.30 after a bath and a feed, then woke for his feeds during the ngiht but has settled well after them so feeling less stressed now.
Don't know if it will work for you, but for Z, during the day (when he actually will sleep), I hold him til he's really drowsy...you know when their eyes flicker, tehn I try put him down. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Tried him in pram yesterday which he just lay awake in, and he always seems to poo in the car which gives him tummy ache so isn't comfy. But we've only been on short trips, and I'm still not driving post c-section.

As for no visitors, I was same in hospy, no work friends just 'popped' in, which i was grateful for cos I was feeling so sick. i'm sure your friends are just trying to give you space, most people will assume you're wanting your space. but I do think some friends with no baby's don't quite get it the same (not all just some).

Well if i lived near you I'd come visit with Z and he and A could be naughty and awake together, and we could trade gross work stories :) ha

On the bright side, glad feeding going well.

As for showering with bubs, I remember taking my nephew in once, he was older, maybe 1, and he was so slippery, and I'm not the most co-ordinated! I'm way too scared to take Z in!
I also had a dream last night that Z only had 3 fat fingers on each hand, like the lobster out of futurama....:( I double checked when i woke up!

babeone

19-08-2009, 11:45

morning all

mammabear24- hope your feeling better- that sounds nasty and can only imagine how hard it would be being sick with a newborn :hugs: for you.

deking- your post about Z not sleeping but doing the eye rolling and then waking up when you put him down sounds like my little munchkin at the moment as well as feeding constantly in the evening. She is just too nosey for her own good and just wants to be involved in everything... have finally just got her to doze off but she is in her sling- not overly happy but i have learnt if i cant get her to sleep during the day she is mega cranky at night.

nic- dont think your the only one with the friend issue, some of my so called closet friends havent rang or text to see how she is going but they dont have kids either so maybe its that. Mind you one of my friends who lives literally 2 mins around the corner and is a sahm with 2 little ones hasnt bothered to call or visit and ignorned my voicemail for 3 days asking if she wanted to catch up and then got some lame excuse... not bothering again. Lucky duck having DP still at home, i wish mine was- but totally hear you about the sleeping thing.. im getting better now but at the start i used to get soooo annoyed that he got all the fun stuff and didnt have to worry about any of the other stuff.

preshy- ive heard the same thing about bf babies and pooing.. i only wish tilly would go at least one nappy change without pooing... i laughed about you going to see the HCN and her thinking the lady with all the problems coz it sounds just like me, for some reason i just seem to get lots of things or am paranoid about something. Hope your thrush clears up soon :fingerscrossed:

AShdan and flis- hope you get more time where bubs isnt wanting to be fed or held today :) somedays are just like that and lucky for me tilly has only done that when DP has been home- seems to be her favourite thing to do- every sunday!!

staceylee- glad to hear your doing well with HArper now your partner is back at work. its definately daunting that first day but we are tough ladies and great mums .. it also puts me at ease a bit knowing i can come on here and vent or ask any questions i have. Hope you have an awesome night on fri- must let us know how it goes!!

Sammiann- how was alex after his needles? Tilly has hers next fri so hoping she will go ok. Glad to hear he is back to his old self, im hoping its a phase they go through about this age.

kotokai- cant believe Cruz is only 5kg at 12weeks he must be still so tiny.. how big was he born? i only say that because Miss Tilly is 5kg already and that was at 6 weeks!!

To those worried about the shower i was the same but you manage to get a steady grip of them and it really is soo lovely. Im with nic though, ill only do it if DP is around and hes the same wit me. You def need 2 pairs of hands.

AFM- Tilly has bad nappy rash... think its something ive eaten as i have just been washing her bum with water and using cloth instead of wipes. Anyone know what foods cause nappyrash??

Tilly is still awake most of the day but is sleeping at night which is all i can ask for i suppose.. just feel sorry for her coz she gets herself sooo tired and cranky but she is just so alert and awake.

She has started making more noises and "talking" to me when i speak to her which is so cute... we are off to our 6-8 week check up with the doctor on thurs do hope all goes well and i can organise some contraception.

anyway better go sweep the floor before Tilly wakes up as she is starting to stir...

MooMum

19-08-2009, 12:34

Nic your friends suck and are HUGE dorks! I'm dying to visit you and Miss A, and J and B of course! Don't take it to heart honey, they don't know what they are missing.:hugs::hugs::hugs:

BBL for more personals.

:hugs:to all.

staceylee

19-08-2009, 14:47

typing one handed as miss h is sleeping in my arms so just quickly

nic - most of my friends are the same, only a few are still wanting to catch up each week. i would come visit if i lived anywhere near you. im the same with the shower, i wont do it unless dh is home to come get her when we're done.

babeone - i hope tillys nappy rash gets better real soon.

i will be back later to do more personals.

kotakai

19-08-2009, 19:00

kotokai- cant believe Cruz is only 5kg at 12weeks he must be still so tiny.. how big was he born? i only say that because Miss Tilly is 5kg already and that was at 6 weeks!!

He was 2.1kgs born. He was 7 weeks early though, & prems can sometimes have weight gain issues (like my other DS). He looks like a little chubber compared to Chais :D

My DD was 5kgs born :laughing: She came out looking like a 3 month old.

SomewhereOverTheRainbow

19-08-2009, 21:02

Deking- LOL at your post. Was so full of A's and Z's was like reading 'The Cat in the Hat' :p.
Yay for Z's longest sleep, I think A's has been something similar- very envious of these girls with their 5+ hours!
Love the idea of trading work stories while our kids party!
Glad I'm not the only one having weird dreams... the last 2 nights I have had dreams that A sustains a head injury! :eek: The first night it was that I was holding her down low somehow and she threw herself backwards and smacked her head of the ground with a sickening thud... then last night I had a dream that I picked her up from my mums and she had a bulging fontanelle (sp?) and my mum said she had fallen off the lounge, and then I spent the rest of the dream trying to convince DH we needed to take her to hospital because she had a subdural haematoma! Very scary dreams, I must be paranoid about dropping her!

Nic your friends suck and are HUGE dorks! I'm dying to visit you and Miss A, and J and B of course! Don't take it to heart honey, they don't know what they are missing.

Aww you are a sweetheart! Why don't we live closer? :(

Babeone- Good to hear I'm not the only one who is having the friend issue! When I think about it though, it is exactly that..my friends who do have kids already were the first ones to want to catch up, whereas those who don't have children haven't really bothered.
Am having lunch with one of my friends from work tomorrow so we decided to invite some other work friends along and make a day out of it, so at least they will meet her then! I am looking fwd to next week though as my high school best friend is coming up from Tassie for the week to meet A. :)
What are you thinking of contraception wise? I haven't even thought about it yet (but haven't needed to)... will probably look into the Nuvaring. Has anyone used that or heard any stories?

Hope everyone has had a good day! We had a reasonably good one, took back our loaner pram and got our pram back... it was getting fixed as it wouldn't 'click' to open properly so we had a Strider DLX as a loaner from the baby store and now DH wants one of those instead! ;)
I've been meaning to mention also- Amaya has a gap in her gumline that was picked up in the newborn screening. It is in the middle of her upper gum- it isn't a space..there is tissue there, but the paed's said that it is a gap in the gum, won't affect feeding etc but that when her teeth come through she will have a gap between her front 2 teeth. Has anyone heard of this, will it grow across or can it be fixed by dentists later in life? Tried to google it but the only info relating to it is on cleft palate which she doesn't have.

staceylee

20-08-2009, 09:33

Just quickly before I head out, Nic DH has a gap in his teeth, its only little but I think it is from something similar(sp) but the dentist said it can be fixed but since its tiny DH isnt going to worry about it. I hope that helps =)

Blonde Assassin

20-08-2009, 10:23

Hi all

How is everyone going?? :)

babeone: I can relate to a non-sleeping day bub! M doesn't sleep at all during the day & I'm running out of ideas to get him to sleep, what have you been trying??

nic: Barely any of my friends have contacted me at all since the birth of M, people write lovely things on Facebook but when it comes to making the effort to visit or catch up they're hopeless!! None of them have kids so I can understand in a way..but there are days I'd love to feel more like my old self again & chat about non-baby stuff!!
Oh & DF steers clear of the poo too!! :laughing:

mammabear: Hope you feel better soon!! I'm so scared of getting sick again cos it must be so hard looking after yourself & a baby!

flis: Whats the dunstan baby language guide?? Sounds like it might be very interesting & hopefully helpful!

AFM: Gotta ask your help!! Is anyone else's bub REALLY unsettled during the day but great at night?! M is a beautiful night sleeper (he only wakes once!) but he's a nightmare during the day!!!!! We go for walks but I stopped to chat to someone for 5 minutes yesterday & he started crying because the pram wasn't moving! If he's in the car he usually settles but as soon as we have to get out he starts again & ohhh its the real horrible screaming, not just grizzles & he won't even settle with me holding him :( What could it be? He gets sooooooooo overtired by late afternoon that he just bombs out!

sandy119120

20-08-2009, 12:38

Hi :wave:

- Little A is doing great and settle. I found different to have a girl. About friends i think maybe some people themselves dont like to have too much visitors so they do think is good idea to visit when someone just have a baby im not sure. Im like you i love to have people around. Maybe not all day but at least to come a visit :D.

Deking - You are rigth i feel pretty organize atm. However, im afraid is becouse a have Huge help around, Mum helps lots with my boys so im pretty much with little M. Im not too sure how i will cope when she is gone i dont want to think about it.
I have to say i was not like this when i had my first one, even tho i was with my mu too, i always say is very hard to look after a baby when is the first time. You have to deal with a lot and everything is new. I felt more confident ans secure when a have my DS2 than my first one. And this time i dont panic for everything.

emz and babeone - I use baby rocker or bouncer with vibrations when M doesnt want to settle.

Kotakai - :smiliedance: for Cruz getting weight so nicely.

Mamabear - hope you get better soon sendong lots of :hugs:.

AFU -
- im feeling happy atm hoping this time i dont go into PD and it looks like. Little M is doing great she is sleeping FINALLY in her bassinet. BUt got a question for mums with boys before the girls, i not sure if Mia is eating enough she only empty one breast at the time sometimes a little bit more but i remember my two boys were always soooo hungry they left both very empty. You think is normal, she is getting weight but....
I am still having some issue (bleeding) sorry tmi so im going to the doctor today. not feeling sick or anything but bledding is driving me nuts.

thanks for reading :o.

S

Preshy2008

20-08-2009, 15:04

:wave: Hi Girls,

Once again I have to thank you so much for all your support - truly.. BH and you girls are a godsend.. xx

Friends: My friends have been pretty hopeless.. although im being inundated by family.. I would love a visit from my girls, but they dont have kids and I guess are not as excited as those with kids.. they are meant to come on Sunday for a yummy platter, but we will see..its sad, but I guess kids is the biggest lifestyle change ever and they are yet to experience it for themselves.. i would say they will understand it all then... also some people, especially those without kids are not entirely comfy around babies, they are so delicate and scary when you havent had much experience holding them..... try not to let it get to you too much girls...

Nic re Strider DLX: I have the strider DLX and the bassinette attachment and I LOVE LOVE LOVE it! It is so easy to manuevre with one hand when nesc and Liam loves it so much he took to sleeping in it instead of his cradle at nights... it was one of the more useful items I bought - definatley worth the $ :laughing:

AFU: As you know I had my MCHN appt yesterday and cried.. again... so they booked me into a breastfeeding clinic today and I just got home.. I am in a completely different frame of mind now.. they gave me some great advice for my thrush and they also showed me how to attach.. again.. Liam just wasnt taking in enough nipple and the difference is amazing.. so hopefully the feeding issues should start to look up for me.. I think I just needed a bit more confidence.. I also did some expressing while I was there and I got about 60 mls in two goes.. so there is milk :yelclap::yelclap: they also showed me how to cradle hold instead of football hold and Liam seems to be comfy and now I can start getting out and about without taking a bunch of pillows and equipment with me.. I feel much better... for those of you having BF issues, please dont wait - go to a breastfeeding clinic at the hospy - it will fix things!

Liam has put on 500 gms in two week - yay for milk!!

I got the Baby Bjorn out yesterday.. we tried it a few weeks again and lost little Liam in it and it took us both to get him out.. (we didnt realise it could be unclipped from the side).. These days Liam loves it and is so at peace in it and just looks around and eventually gets sleepy and I love having him so close. For those of you with unsettled bubs during the day, maybe try a sling or the like to calm them down..? Just a suggestion xx

Anyone else out there a bit apprehensive to DTD?:o I have had plenty opportunies and have been a bit hesitant to go there so far...

Take care and sending lots of :sleeping: to you all xxx

Lukie

20-08-2009, 16:15

Hi all,
Let's see if I can catch up on this week's posts...

friends: we were the opposite, we were inundated with people wanting to visit and because I came home the next day after having B, people tend to stay a lot longer, have a cup of tea, etc, at home rather than when they visit in hospy and you can't just stay in bed... After day 3 we said no more visitors for the time being, and really only felt up to visits again two weeks later. These days I am having one friend visit once a week, and I love having days to myself (but I have always felt that way- guess it depends on your personality?)

Preshy- glad to hear BF is going better for you. It's such a huge deal, when I was struggling with BF it affected my whole outlook, my mood, everything was wrong with the world when my breasts were sore/damaged/low supply, etc.

settling- I agree with Preshy, try a sling/carrier. B always always sleeps in the Bubba Moe. I'd prefer to have her in her bed so I can get some me time during the day, or get other things done (like the dishes which I can't do with her in the sling!) but it's good for when she just won't sleep and has a cry-fest instead. I have also been rocking her in this big chair we have from Ikea (Poang) and she gets to sleep that way too (it's kinder on my back as I can sit down!). Only thing with rocking is that after 3.5weeks, B would fall asleep getting rocked but 10-20mins after being put down in bed she'd wake up. Mind you, we are finding that to be happening even now that she is self-settling. Can't figure out why? Today has been the first day that she has self-settled, woken, then self-settled again (with my replacing the dummy of course- which brings me to my next point- the dummy, try one? Works to get B off to sleep usually...).

sandy- about emptying one vs. both breasts, B has gone through stages. She used to feed from both but now most days she only takes one and then maybe 5 more mins on the other side. Maybe M will have both sides at a feed when she goes through a growth spurt?

DTD- looking forward to it but until two days ago was still bleeding. Have been spotting since then, and today * TMI* just light brown discharge. It has been stop and start red blood for ages, so here's hoping it won't start again. Hope next week we can finally DTD DH is going crazy with desire- I'm loving the attention especially given I had to beg for it in those last weeks of pregnancy! Mostly I just miss the intimacy- DH has been sick so he only just came to bed again last night, was so nice to snuggle up together.

Question for those past 6 weeks: I'm going to my GP for my 6wk check next Tues. What's involved? I had a few stitches internally. Will she check that? To be honest I wish she would have a look cos I had a look in the mirror the other night after my shower and things look very weird down there. Not at all how I remember them and I wonder if I'm normal???

AFM- DH was sick- now B is congested. Poor little girl is all snotty and gagging on her mucous. Getting a vaporiser today, hopefully that will help. Anyone have any opinions on this, or other advice? Thankfully she is still sleeping well through the night, I have raised her matress, but she is very hard to settle in the evening (not just now she is sick, but generally).

Also how often is everyone bathing their bubs? We are managing it twice a week at the moment. I clean her eyes and face each day, and put her bottom in the bathroom sink if she has had a very full nappy overnight, but that's it. Wonder if we should bathe her tonight seeing as she's sick? The nights we do give her a bath she settles very quickly (but still wakes up about an hour later and hard to re-settle).

Anyway, better be off to get dinner organised. Fridge is almost empty so am making fried rice... My first time so I hope it isn't gluggy!

babycart

20-08-2009, 17:34

Hi everyone,

i haven't been on for a few days, so sorry!

on a few topics:

non-day sleepers - please let Sophie join this club :crying: I spent most of my MCH appt yesterday talking to the nurse about this.....basically, all of S's tired signs, i was mistaking for other things...therefore i have been over stimulating the poor poppet, she is getting over-tired and then cross at herself because she can't sleep, creating a vicious cycle of not sleeping during the day and crashing from sheer exhaustion at night-time (with mummy following close behind).

so what i have been doing (since yesterday) is, change S before her feed, give her boob 1, burp, offer boob 2 (she usually takes both) for 5-10mins, take her off, short burp and then wrap her, put her back on boob until she is finished. short burp then watch out for tired signs and put her to bed while she is still awake so that she can settle herself to sleep.

The nurse said the very first tired sign is the fixed gaze into the mid-distance, followed by jerky hands and legs, fists, yawns etc. she said to put S to bed when she gets the vacant stare, even if she lays in the cot for 30mins with her eyes open, the baby is just winding down and enjoying quiet time. Has worked ok so far and has actually allowed me to do some stuff around the house.

Dunstan baby language - www.dunstanbaby.com (http://www.dunstanbaby.com) - babies make 5 sounds to indicate what their specific need is, ie a series of short eh, eh, eh sounds means i need to burp...key is to understand what baby needs when they first start making noise, once they get distressed, it is too late and all the cries sound the same

dtd - i'm going to try this weekend...DH will be sooooo happy :fingerscrossed: it goes ok

frieds - i have found friends to be ok...many have said that they didn't want to crowd in too early, so some had waited a few weeks to let us settle before visiting. what bothers me a little is that i don't see a lot of excitement from my parents. They live in qld and I'm in melbourne. They flew down when i went into labour and stayed for 3 days, and flew down at 3wks for another 3 days, but they don't call to see how S is that much (maybe they figure i will call them when it is a good time for me).

But what i find really odd, is that for the very first grandchild, they haven't bought her any presents. We coerced my mum into buying a cute outfit for her when i was still pregnant, and when we in the hospy, mum and dad bought me flowers....but no baby presents...has anyone elses parents not seemed excited about the baby???

ok - AFU - our house is officially on the market, to be auctioned the weekend before grand final day.

Perth - DH, S and I are moving to Perth in mid-late September. MooMum - I know you are in Perth - who are the other Perth mummies and babies??? I would love to arrange a Perth July mummies event so that I can meet some friends in WA :wave:

ok - better go and do some other things while S is settled/sleeping/quiet in her cot....like have a shower and wash my hair

take care

AC

KiahsMum

20-08-2009, 21:14

Quick question for those using the wind formula - did anyone find it made bub worse, maybe just after the first one or two doses? Gave it to Sarah and she has been crying with wind pain on and off for four hours so now I am scared to give her more. She also spat/threw up on the change table about an hour or so after we gave it to her...was really hoping this would help I need to sleep, running on 3-4 hours and so tired I passed out at the end of the night feed last night with Sarah in my lap....

mini munchkin

20-08-2009, 22:01

Evening!

Gotta keep this short - DH wants to go to bed!!

Lukie, hope B is feeling better soon. Saline drops may help if her nose is blocked. You can get it from the chemist.

As for the 6 wk check up, I haven't had mine yet (booked for this Tues 8 wks) and I can't really remember from DD... I had a pap smear and a general check up. A friend told me they usually check to see all is back in place too.... I'm not sure..

DTD... thinking of being ready, DH is desperate, but being really sensitive. It took nearly 3 months after DD so I'm pleased to be thinking of it so soon this time around!

Can't remember who was asking, but K usually just has one side. He usually feeds, detaches and burps and then I offer the same side again.. I was told with DD that the hind milk contains lots of important fats and the fore milk can create more wind.... seems to work and of course if he's still hungry after twice on the one side then out comes the second:laughing:

Friends, a fairly good balance... although I really miss having my Ma around. She was 5 mins away with DD and now is 4.5 hrs...

Sleeping.... going fairly well here. Lighter than DD, but still fairly good. Nights are about every 4 hrs and days vary - sometimes he sleeps all day and other days he is more awake. My Dad reminded me that he doesn't know 'days' yet!!!

Ok, need to get to bed...

Hope everyone is still finding time to smile

xxx

babeone

21-08-2009, 08:31

justa quck one first coz i need help

i have one boob that feels really engorged and is painful. the last feed i just thought it was full but now still feels like that. when i put tilly on the breast was already leaking like it was full as this doesnt normally happen to me. she has fed off it briefly now but it still feels hard and sore- mainly on the right. could this be a blocked duct??? I cant feel an obvious lump and am worried about her feeding off that breast more if it is just full and then causing it to be more engorged. IF it is a blocked duct should i express off it if she wont take any more? I dont want to get mastititis so what should i do?? Oh and its not red or hot ..

lishwill

21-08-2009, 08:53

Hi everyone feel terrible that I have not posted since the arrival of Caelan. I didn't realsise how busy I would be having two others to run around after and when I am not doing that how tired I am.
We seemed to have settled in ok with bub feeding every three hours he gained his 360gms back in six days and am guessing he will be over 5kg allready.

LUKIE- I have always bathed my bubs once a day but just have the time with C so he has been every second day which is most likly better because of the natural oils in there skin. I just think it freshens them lol! It seems at the moment everything comes down to time!

SANDY- My DS1 definatly ate more then DD and gained weight a whole lot quicker aswell. She is two and weighs 11kg and he would have weighed that by 12 months. Don't worry I think thats normal especially if she is gaining weight.

PRESHY- Glad you have sorted out you feeding issues it definatly easier when you knwo you can confidentaly feed in public and not have to stress.

EMZ- Sorry to hear that bub does not settle for you. Don't have much advice maybe try a sling my kids loved it. It makes them feel like they did inside apparently.

NIC- I also hear you on the friends thing. DS1 and DD had plenty of visitors, flowers and congrats and this time round nothing, my nan has not even ran me yet and she was the first with the other two so feel a bit sad about that. I feel like number three just is not as important anyone else, glad I am not the only one that feels let down.

Well I better go and attempt some house work and tend to my other two, DD is not even dressed yet (bad mother lol) and C will most likly be awake soon and really think I should give him a bath, the weather is horrible today and all I wanted to do was go outside :no:. Sorry I have not done more personals but time time time lol. Take care all and talk soon.

babeone

21-08-2009, 08:57

ok now for others..

babycart- i too am a perth mummy and july mummy catchup sounds nice!!

lukie-i used the fess for little noses when T was snotty- its a saline spray which you squirt up there and then you get this sucker thing to remove the snot- gross i know but it helped. As for baths DP or I shower with her everynight as i find it definately helps settle her. The other one of us takes her out so the other one can finish their shower- 2 birds with one stone!!

Preshy- yay for the BF clinic- it is def so much easier when you and then get the hang of it. Im so glad i persevered but i can totally understand why people wouldnt- its def not easy.

Kiahs mum- havent used it but just wanted to offer you :hugs:

Emz- T has been the same in the day. Awake all day then bombs out at night. I have found that whatever gets her sleeping which so far has been her sling, going to the shops (falls asleep in the car), putting her on my tummy on her chest and patting- asleep within 5 mins and after half an hour will usually lie in her basinette without waking. SHe isnt crying though... could it be wind? or does it only happen after he has been awake for a while and then could be just tired and not knowing how to settle himself?? its so hard to know hey!? sorry that wasnt actually much help:laughing:

nic- T looks like she has the same thing on her top gum- i had a gap so now i am wondering whether she will have the same- must ask the doc. as for contraception i have decided to have the mirena inserted as it gives a concentrated dose of progesterone in your uterus frather than it having to travel through your body like the pill, injection or implanon. It also has proved to have the same effectiveness as having your tubes tied, lasts for 5 years, once removed your fertility resumes immediately... so thought it sounded good.

AFU- went to docs yest and T is going well, she def has a hernia but should heal itself within a year. She also has contact dermatitis on her bum so he prescribed me some cream for that.

DTD for me is going to be at least another 3 weeks- devastated... where my stitched broke and were allowed to heal on their own by my doc, i have grown a granuloma so yesterday i had the unfortunate experience of having it burnt off with silver nitrate- OMG that was as painful as labour and i have to have a second treatment next week- looking froward to that; not... then at least 2 weeks till he will do my pap smear and insert my mirena so thinking DTD will have to wait till then. Unless it heals quicker but dont like my chances... Poor dp.

Last night T fell asleep in her bouncer- so cute, she fed at 6 then put in her bouncer while we had tea and was quite happy playing with the toys on it then at 9 she was still awake so DP went to bed and i lay on the couch waiting for her to get grouchy for a feed and woke up at midnight her fast asleep- me panicking coz she wasnt awake..:laughing: complain either way dont we... so decided to dreamfeed and then changed her, wrapped her and put her in her basinette all while she stayed asleep. she only lasted till 3.30 though coz she didnt feed properly but seeing as i was awake at midnight i got another 3 hrs rather than the 1 or less i might of had if i didnt feed her i suppose... well better go as my battery is running out on the laptop.