*+* Feb 09 Mums JULY chat !*+*

[zephani]

Hello Ladies :wave:

JULY already! Can you believe it? I can't believe that Katherine is nearly 5 months old!

I'm sorry I have posted much lately and PB I still do want to chat. Hopefully I'll get a chance to update today :yes:

[zephani]

Another lurker trying to catch up with everyone. I read everyone's messages everyday but have been very lazy in replying.

Adora We stopped wrapping Katherine about a fortnight ago. We started by wrapping her with just one arm in and then just wrapping her about her belly. Now she goes to bed just in her sleeping bag.

QC Yay for new luggage and a holiday to FNQ! Hope you have a great time!

KJ I'm sorry to hear about the PND. I have been taking anti-depressants for about 8 years. Two years ago I went off the meds because I was feeling a lot but I ended up having a breakdown and back on the meds. I would continue with the counselling and re-assess just like you said. But sometimes counselling or anti-depressants on their own isn't enough.

FP Congratulations on the arm front! That is such good news! Fingers crossed that you will be discharged in October.

AFU I have applied for some long service leave to push my return date to work back. I am using three weeks of long service and will now be returning to work three days a week from September 16th. We are lucky that DH works from home and will be looking after Katherine for those three days.

We went to Young for a funeral last weekend. We left at 1pm Thursday after Gymbaroo and got there about 7pm. We got up went to visit my friend and went to the funeral about 1pm. We left about 3:30pm and got home about 9pm. Next morning we had swimming lessons at 9:30am, met DH to do the food shopping at 10:30am and bumped into my sister.

Later that afternoon my Mum came for a visit for two nights and two be honest it was two hard nights. She seemed to criticise everything I do. I give Katherine too many bottles, I feed her too much, her food isn't pureed enough, I was putting her to sleep at the wrong time (she cried for 5 mins and then slept for two hours). When she left I felt exhausted and doubting my ability as a Mother.

We had a bad week with constipation last week. Currently we have Katherine on Karicare HA but it has been discontinued and they brought out a new formula called Karicare HA Gold Plus. Starting last Monday we introduced one bottle a day of the new formula. By Thursday she hadn't done a poo so we started her on some coloxyl. After 48 hours of that she still hadn't poo'd. We went to swimming lessons and I thought that the warm water would help. But she still didn't poo so we went to the chemist and were adviced to give her a suppository. About 15 mins after that she did a poo and has been doing at least two a day since. We stopped the HA Gold Plus last Thursday. Last night we started introducing a bottle of Bellamy's Organic formula. Hopefully that works because we need a formula to put her on. We only have three tins left of her old formula.

Katherine is loving her solids. She has two tablespoons for breakfast and two for dinner. So far she has tried rice cereal, pumpkin, carrot, broccoli, cauliflower and apple.

We have been quite busy lately. We go to Mother's Group on Tuesday, Gymbaroo on Thursdays and Swimming Lessons on Saturdays.

[abybaby]

Hi Everyone,

I'm a bit of a serial lurker too!! I just don't seem to have too much to say that would be of any interest to anyone.... I guess b/c i worked leading up to having bub that i couldn't get very involved in the "due" threads.

Kate - I really feel for you, one of my friends is going through some similar issues at the moment and I am at a loss as to how to help her without crossing the line. I just keep reassuring her that i am here if she wants to chat or go for a walk or anything like that.

Zephani - Wow - Katherine loves her food!! I can't get my bub to be interested in solids yet. She will suck on some banana through one of those mesh feeder things and will happily chomp away at a rusk but will not have farex or puree's at all!! Have been trying on and off for two weeks so i will just keep trying every few days i guess.

SS - Ooohhh - what kind of cake is on the menu? Yummo, i love cake!

Congratulations to everyone that has started their exercise regimes!! I really want to get moving with something cause i go back to work in Nov and I want to buy a new work wardrobe to make me feel better about going back but i want to lose 5kgs first!

Hope everyone is doing well in this new month! I will make an effort to chat more often.

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

wow July already :no: kinda makes me sad to realise Eli is nearly 5 months old, i know she won't be a baby forever, but with the teething (2 full teeth already), the rolling and standing its all happening too quickly, i just want her to cuddle up on my chest and sleep like she did when she was a newborn, instead she's constantly wriggling, trying to get down and play :(

i can't believe how busy you are Zephani, good on you getting out of the house so regularly. i know i get depressed when i hang around the house too much so i really should try and get out more. i did try going to playgroup but it was really geared towards 8mnths + you know crawling and eating independantly, may try it again in a couple of months.

re wrapping we had to stop wrapping Eliannas LOOOOOOONG legs at about 9 weeks as the physio told us it was starting to hamper the normal development of her lower legs and feet (they wouldn't turn out) and she adjusted to that very quickly, and she's not wrapped at all for her day sleeps, but i have to wrap her arms in for her night sleeps else she wakes herself up by pushing of the covers, knocking out her dummy (if she happened to fll asleep with one) or hitting herself in the face...i figure she can go on being wrapped till she starts unwrapping herself.

re solid food, have tried Elianna on Rafferty's which she loved, and steamed pears- whcih were another hit, but i am trying to keep it as a "fun" activity rather than a meal as i copped an earful from the community health nurse about how you shouldn't introduce solids before 6 months :rolleyes:

re well meaning mums we went away last weekend with my whole family (me, Dh, DD, my mum, my two brothers and their families) and my BF and her daughter and whilst my mum would never deliberately or directly undermine me i did find my confidence take a bit of a dive with all the well meaning "advice" i got from my mum, BF and SIL...we just have to remember that our babies are happy and healthy and that while we may make some mistakes we are always working towards doing what is best for our children and that is what counts!!

AFU, Elianna's christening went off really well, she was an absolute angel and looked perfect in her fluffy white gown....see photos in my profile page :D (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/album.php?albumid=996)
We are currently trying to re-establish a semblance of routine following our trip away, doesn't help that i am fighting a double infection in my jaw and ear and had to have a tooth removed yesterday, so i'm feeling pretty run down and sorry for myself and unable to cope with the smallest of tantrums from the little princess. thankfully DH only went back to work today so he was here through the worst. Elianna is going through a phase of complete disinterest in feeding (breast feeding not solids, she LOVES them!) - where she used to completely drain both sides every 3-4 hours, she now sucks half-heartedly at one side then refuses to have anymore...she still seems happy and is having quite a few wet and pooey nappies so i think she's ok, jsut has me worried a little, has anyone experienced anything like this???


anyway hope you are all well
xoxox
God Bless
Kath

[gizmoduckus]

Wow! I can't believe it's July!

My sister is due with her first baby this month. I am so excited! I can't wait!

:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Yikes July already - Riley is officially 4 months - and teething (I think), rolling, and loving to "stand" he is almost comando crawling too which is hilarious - sort of a combination between the catterpillar creep and a comando crawl. It is amazing the difference between kids too Riley is so much more avanced with the physical stuff than Zahlia was at the same age (she was more with the picking up tiny things and talking etc).

As for the Cake I finally got the MIL secret American Pound Cake Recipe :smiliedance:(we had it for our wedding cake but she refused to share the recipe:() So I'll give it a go with a lemon cream cheese icing I think - DH asked for a not sweet icing so I think this is a good compromise.
Not sure how to decorate it though will have to have a look.
Any hoo I better get some lunch in and a quick tidy up before DH gets home so he doesn't think I have been on the computer all morning :o (between cleaning up after Zahlia's lovely vomits that is - poor chook)

[ardora]

Hello July!

It is insane... time is flying by and I think that the big baby I now have at home has eaten my my tiny newborn baby :D

Kath- I was about to post about the same. G has gone on a diet (self-imposed), he is eating 10 minutes at the most except for the 8pm and the 4am feeds when he still feeds for 40 minutes or so... he is not on solids so it is not that there is anything else that might be filling him... his nappies are still wet/soiled as before so... could it be that he is getting more efficient at sucking? my breasts don't feel empty and it happened from one day to the next... any clues?

KateJ- I forgot to answer about expressing. I started expressing after G dropped the 11pm feed so what I do is expressing only then, just before going to bed which is convenient so it is more comfortable and I am not bursting when G wakes up for his feed. I am feeding him about 150 ml of EBM and he normally finishes it and seems content... except now, in his new 'diet'.. he is eating about 90ml per feed (when I give him the bottle) and taking forever in doing so...

Mums- my mother is great, she gives me a lot of advice but always asks me what I think first; her advice is more like saying how she, or someone else, used to do it and many times she comes to the conclusion that things have changed for best ... if only she were closer!

Quitecontrary- I hope that you are having a better day today! One of the best advice that I have received from one of my best friends is "remember that everything, EVERYTHING, has an end" so that is what I told myself

PB- are you feeling better? when are you moving to your new house?

Gizmo- congrats on becoming an aunt! hope everything goes well with your sister.

Cannot remember much more than this for personals, sorry! hugs for everyone

Have lovely day! :goodvibes:

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

G has gone on a diet (self-imposed), he is eating 10 minutes at the most except for the 8pm and the 4am feeds when he still feeds for 40 minutes or so... he is not on solids so it is not that there is anything else that might be filling him... his nappies are still wet/soiled as before so... could it be that he is getting more efficient at sucking? my breasts don't feel empty and it happened from one day to the next... any clues?

ardora that could have been me writting it, its exactly what happened here too. Elianna only has about 3 teaspoons of pear or farex every 2-3 days so i'm pretty sure she's not filling up on these either, although i have no problems getting her to eat these "solid" meals, she gobbles them and looks for more. i did try giving her some EBM in a cup and she seemed much happier to take it this way :rolleyes: but she is obsessed with cups, she will suck on mine and hold it with two hands and put the rim in her mouth properly, its so cute- we even brought her some teething cups (rubber rimmed with rattly things in the bottom) and they quickly became her favourite thingt- even better than her dummy lol .....sorry i digress....but yeah no idea about the sudden disinterest in breastfeeding:no: do you think it could be that they are too interested in their surroundings and want to see what's going on?

[parentingrocks]

where is everyone today????????????? :confused:

[zephani]

We've all moved to the July thread I started :) Come join us!

[parentingrocks]

oops silly me posting away in the June thread... ah well...

same old here. Just had a day out.. spotlight, the shops and lunch with friends, now home, Charli is down for a nap and I MUST I mean MUST clean the f'n house. Its a bomb.

Going back to work tomorrow, wish me luck. My mum better get prepared for the million phone calls I give her asking on Charli's every move.

well better get to the house work...

does anyone else find this... If I don't do the washing fast enough and any of my bras or singlets have breast milk (leaked) on them they go mouldy?!?!!?! It took me about 6 days to get through all my washing and on the 6th day my clothes were mouldy from the BM !!!!! I was so annoyed, have soaked and soaked and they'll never be the same - they went straight in the bin. WHat a waste. Maybe it also has to do with Melbourne and this foggy wet weather, everything feels damp in this weather. YUK

[parentingrocks]

OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FORGOT TO SAY - My friend gave me some FANTASTIC ADVICE!!!!!!!! When trying to wean off wrapping... use a sleeping bag and pull the sleaves inside themselves so it is just the bag and the babys arms are inside the sleeping bag part, and its acts of sort of a 'loose' wrap that they can't get their arms out of! I tried it last night and it worked BRILLIANTLY!

xxx

[quitecontrary]

Hello!! Here you are! Started writing a post in the old thread at a much more sensible hour earlier today and somehow real life took over.
I have had a much better day - thank you my dears for all the lovely thoughts.
We had friends over for dinner - did a roast chicken and cooked a cake! Though I have to say the cake was just a "showing off for the friends new boyfriend" last minute success! Pear and caramel upside down cake, and yes G helped!
Should choof off to bed, she has already vomited once in her bed tonight, fingers crossed thats that. I think I should take her to the Dr's tomorrow - she has been a bit crook for too long now.
Take care!
Can't believe its a new month already!

[sweetseven]

I'm only feeding bubs solids when her behaviour indicates she wants some. Sometimes this is twice a day, other times she might skip a day.

Well, yesterday, she hadn't shown any signs of wanting solids, but I was holding her when I got some yoghurt out of the fridge for myself. Her little arms and legs started expressing such excitement and joy, that I fed it to her instead.

Also, I no longer hold her whilst eating my meal, because she looks so disapointed that I'm putting the food in my mouth instead of hers.

[floodprincess]

:wave: Ladies

Another month gone....OMG, was just thinking the other day that Xmas will be here before I realise it - glad most of my shopping is taken care of ;)

Anyways, it's good to hear that most of us seem to be keeping on top of things most days - I guess that's life though, some days are good, some are better and some we'd rather just forget.

Got a question for the more recent bottle-feeding mums, when do you change the teat over to the faster flow? Do you just 'know' when you need to do it or do you stick with the guidelines on the darn things? Because we're bottle feeding Monique while I'm at work (she loves her EBM, makes her appreciate the boob even more when I'm home) and we started quite late with the bottle, she's still using the newborn teats, but lately I've been beginning to wonder if I shouldn't give her the faster flow ones - not being able to get into the CHN, I can't ask her so pose my 'silly question of the day' here (its been so long since I bottle fed, I can't remember much).

So there you go....M is loving her solids, she currently has some pear & banana farex for breakfast and a vege for dinner - I'm going to have expand her range of veges soon, I'm getting sick of pumpkin and potato (it's so hard doing this because I want to be the one to give her the new foods, and I want to be able to be around for the entire day after to make sure nothing goes wrong)...

She's still not rolling though, sometimes coming close nor is she laughing/giggling (should I be concerned??) but she is soooo interactive, she'll talk for what seems like hours on end (which is fantastic) and will smile and play and there's sometimes inidication of that elusive giggle...

Ahhh....it's nice to be home with her after a day at the office! Even nicer on the weekends ;)

Anyway, enough rabbiting, I must get back to work, got 20 computers to check after we upgraded our emergency response management program :rolleyes:

Have a great day ladies, enjoy the hint of spring while it lasts!

[abybaby]

This is me making a concentrated effort to post more!!

We have had a marathon day out today, first the school drop off, then out for coffee with a friend which went for 2 hours!! Then i popped in to work for a visit and a "show off", then home. Bub has been asleep for nearly 3 hours now!! Oops, I think i tired her out a little. I am tired too today, she woke up at 4:30am today for a feed and even though she went back to sleep easily, i'm a bit sleepy. I need to learn to go to bed earlier. What time do you go to sleep, any tips for winding down? I find that by the time i get both kids asleep and do any little odd jobs, its about 10pm then i sit on the computer for an hour or so and it's 11pm and onwards before i know it!

[Seacretsquirrel]

FP - With the bottles (although I have never bottle fed) I would be going with the if its not broke don't fix it approach I think the smaller teats can make them work for the milk much like BF wich is good for continuing BF.
As for rolling and giggling I wouldn't stress just yet DD didn't roll for ages and when she did she did it one then not again for ages seh was like a turtle if I put her on her back she was stuck - even once she started to crawl:laughing:

We had a busy morning too we braved the toy sales to no avail there just wasn't that much there and even less that I wanted to get:crying: so I got Z a my little pony colouring case thing and some duplo blocks for R (for later on as we have so much stuff from DD that will do him - I don't see the sense in buying more of the same when DD's stuff is still perfect). :chef:We made ginger bread men this arvo too which Z loves 9both the making and the eating)
Anyway off to make a cake.:chef:

[Purplebird]

Is that DH's birthday cake SS? Hope it turns out well. I agree with you on the toy thing - we have heaps of stuff of DD's that Cam will love to play with. I actually hate having too many toys, it's so wasteful when they don't all get played with. I was hoping to get a swing set from Big W which will be both kids' Christmas present this year, but the queue was ridiculous so we ate lunch instead!

FP - my little man can't roll yet and he is only doing a semi-giggle too. I'm sure it's fine. I agree with SS on the bottle teats - I've heard stick with the slow flow ones so that bub continues to breastfeed more readily.

QC - you always cook the most wonderful sounding feasts - I wish I could invite myself round for dinner!

Ardora - I am feeling much better thanks - I seem to have bad days, but luckily the good ones still outweigh the bad ones. We move at the beginning of October, whihc still feels like ages away!

Zeph - you poor thing, that sounds draining being criticised by your mum. You are doing a wonderful job - you obviously have a very happy healthy little girl. I'm sure our parents and ILs forget that times have changed and they cannot possibly remember that far back to when we were babies! I know my mum is constantly 'surprised' by things I do, but she does concede that she can't really remember in detail what she used to do!

Cam had his 4 month needles today and he went well - a quick scream and then he was fine. he has been cranky all day and his legs look very sore. I gave him some Panadol for a slight fever this evening and now he's sound asleep - hopefully to stay that way for a while.

I felt so sad putting away all his lovely 00 clothes today - he has hardly worn them and they are all so nice! So he is into the 0s now and growing rapidly - I'll find out how large he is on Monday. He is certainly not a very determined or motivated chap - he just lays still for the most part, doesn't even try to roll or move. He did a half roll once and that was that! he loves to grab small things and really concentrates to get them. He also loves to chat to people and grin like a fool! He adores anyone who passes the time of day with him.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Well the cake worked (so far I have to ice it) I make a couple of tiny cupcakes with the mixture so we could taste test and it tastes pretty good so that is a huge relief - DH's mum is a cook so it is hard to live up to her dishes (although DH tells me that My fried rice is better so that is a good thing!)

fingers crossed it looks okay finished - I might post a pic if it is a sucess!

Riley is still in 000's apart from his jammies! not sure what he weighs now I'll weigh him on Monday when he gets his needles He was 6.68 the other week (after our little fall:o)

anyhoo off to bed!:sleeping:

Oh and just wondering for those with BF bubs how often are they pooing - R is still going with most feeds I know the range of "normal" with BF bubs is huge but was just curious what others bubs are doing.

[floodprincess]

Evening ladies...

Thanks for the advice - I hadn't heard about the slower the teat the better for continuing BF....guess I won't be upgrading just yet ;)

I'm going to try not to worry about the rolling and giggling (although I get home this evening to be told that she needs to be strapped into her bouncer now 'cause she's set to roll out of it....:rolleyes:) I keep trying to tell myself that she's doing so much else that the rolling and giggle will come with time as long as we encourage her.

As for the pooing SS, Miss M will present us with at least 1 per day (mind you she's on some solids and about 1 formula bottle per day, the other 3 feeds are boob or EBM) so it's probably going to be a little different for R.

And I'm off to join the rest of you at the toy sales (according to DH who gleefully rang to tell me they were on and we HAVE to go). Unlike some, we got rid of most of DD1's toys some time ago so have to start over lol....

And one last thing before I go to bed...my darling mother was putting away some clothes that no longer fit Monique and mentioned that she was going to keep them for when #3 arrives...lol....I have to wonder how she knew I want #3?? I haven't mentioned it to anyone....but yeah, #3 to be in 2013 methinks (I must need that padded cell).

Anyways nighty night all, I'm buggered and rambling again....:sleeping:

[quitecontrary]

FP your Mum has been following you on bubhub obviously!
PB I love your description of Cam, he sounds like a very contented little man, if slightly lazy - not that there's anything wrong with that!!
We haven't even thought about the toy sales here. We have so much stuff from cousins its scary. Poor old Toby doesn't even get to play with the toys he has been given, G makes sure they are conviscated for her use only if she finds them at all amusing. Toby seems okay though, and gets plenty of attention and stimulation from his before-mentioned sister!! He rolls occasionally, and has taken to rolling from his back to his side - and seems desperate on occasion to start moving more than his usual 'circle work'! He loves being outside in his bouncer looking at the sky, or out the window from his cot.
We are off to the Doc's this morning. G has the reluctant cold and was awake in the night a few times so I think its time to get her checked out before we go off on hols. Would much rather be quarantined in the Tropics than here though, so I don't think we'll be mentioning our travel plans.

[OneCheekyMonkey]

I have been so lax posting here, there really isn't a lot to say that I am not saying on fb. :laughing:

D is cutting his 2nd bottom tooth, poor poppet. He hates panadol, he screams and screws his face up and spits it all out. I tried 3 flavours and told him that they weren't that bad :yes: but he just doesn't agree.

Not much else, D was 9.2kg last week, so a little more now I think. He is about 69 cm I think, he is hard to measure.

We have our hospy appt re: vacc in a few weeks, I am hoping they will simply admit him for a few hours so he can get vacced without me worrying stupid.

[Lateralus]

:wave: Hi ladies Hope everyone is having a great weekend and that's why it's so quiet in here!

SS glad the cake turned out well & that your DH had a lovely birthday.
Zeph Sorry you had such a hard time from your Mother. It's so difficult with people giving advice - I am sure they do it to try and help but it can seem to really undermine you can't it?! :hugs:
OCM good luck with your hospital appointment - hope they sort something out so Dane can have his vaccinations and you can have total peace of mind! When you give him the panadol, do you squirt it right in the back of his mouth? I used to just pop medications just inside Z's mouth and wonder why she spat them out... If you squirt it right at the back it is near impossible for them to spit it back out. Hope those teeth poke through soon so you can have some peace and he is more comfortable!

AFU - Zoe has been a little bit more settled the last few nights. Still usually takes about 4 hours of resettling every 15-30 minutes, but then at least she is sleeping for 3 hour blocks between feeds. Is anyone else who is breastfeeding still feeding 3-4th hourly overnight?

We have been referred to a residential trecillian clinic up in Brisbane to try and sort out some of Zoe's 'grumpy baby' and sleeping issues. I am just waiting to hear when they can fit us in... I am hoping it will be soon. There have been times when I truly felt like running away from home :( . But I must say, after a reasonably good nights sleep last night, I am feeling a bit more able to cope with the crying. :sunshine:

[OneCheekyMonkey]

Kate - I will try squirting it all the way back, I have kind of just sticking in a little further than his lips. D is still breastfeeding every 3 hours at night. It is driving me up the wall. He can go 4 hours during the day but its 3 hr at night.

I think it is worse atm because he is teething. I just hope that after this 2nd one pops through there will be no more teeth for a while.

X fingers you hear back from the sleep clinic, I really hope they help settle Miss Z

[parentingrocks]

Hi everyone.

I haven't had a lot to say over the last few days so just been reading and not posting.

Kate - Charil is still BF except for 1 formula bottle during the day (just started weaning as I said earlier) and she sometimes wakes for one feed during the night, sometimes none at all. She went through a patch where she woke up quite a bit but I think she is teething and had a bit of wind so once I got that under control she is back to sleeping through, or just one feed at about 4am. I am sure you have exhausted all options but I am wondering if Zoe could just simply be hungry? Have you tried 'topping her up' with formula before you put her to bed? I know she has a few intolerances, so maybe a prescribed formula? I sometimes find if my boons don't feel very full and I'm doing the last BF before putting her to bed, I just make up about 100ml of formula and offer it to her and she gobbles it up and sleeps much better. Thats just us though, I know every baby is different. Good luck with it all I hope you find some answers to her being unsettled at night, porr little Zoe and poor you! You deserve a break... did you end up getting anyone to watch her so you and your DP could go out for dinner or something??

Well I am off to the supermarket, gym and then coffee with the girls so I better go and get ready. Enjoy your day ladies
x

[ardora]

Hi all,

Just a quick post from me today. I spoke to a lactation consultant regarding G's nursing strike and she said that it was normal at this age to start cutting on the duration of feeds, normally leaving the night and morning ones as long ones and rushing through the feeds in the middle of the day. As always, as far as bub is content and there are wet nappies, nothing to worry about! Just enjoy the short feeds :)

Have a great day! (I can hear G moving in his cot)

:goodvibes:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Morning all,
Well I am a single mum again for the next 6 weeks anyway DH sails this afternoon so back to the usual routine! We had a lovely but busy weekend DH's party on Friday night then we went 4x4ing on Sat and I managed to sink our partol in a muddy puddle so Sunday was spent pulling the carpets out of the truck and steam cleaning them :o They were too damp to put back before DH left so we are sans carpets in the car for the next 6 weeks - oh well it means I don't have to worry about Z spilling stuff I guess.
Riley had his needles today and has been a bit cross since (but I guess I'd be cross if I was given 3 needles and the liquid stuff too) so apart from an extra trip into the boat to take DH some stuff he forgot (and extra uniforms he wasn't told about!- and some birthday cake :yelclap:) we are having a quiet one DD is watching Barnyard (for the 2nd time today she is obsessed with it but she doesn't sit and watch it all the way through she wanders off all the time and pops back to check that it is still on lol) anyhoo off to see if I can have a bit of a read - intead of mopping the floors like I should be doing but it can wait till the ratbags are in bed and I can do it in peace and without little footprints through the freshly mopped bits!
Take care hope you have a good day - oh and there are pics of the stuck car and the birthday cake on facebook if anyone is interested (if you are not my friend yet PM me cause it is locked down)
ETA - Oh and porky boy is 7.3 kgs!

[natski]

Hi girls :wave:

Just thought I'd pop my head in very quickly and say HI, as we've been MIA for a while trying to start up a little business I have going and getting the two kids Christened this weekend so busy, busy, busy.

I haven't been reading up on who's doing what, so apologies for no personals. Just saying HI and hope you are all doing well. KJ - just quickly saw your post at the top of the page, Olivia is still waking up once or twice a night (after sleeping through for about 2 weeks), but I'm not too worried - she is only 6kg - growing fine, but just little and only on the 25th percentile so normal for her to still wake up and want some feeds. I spoke to the clinic last week and they were still keen for me to start solids at 6 months and not really before.

Anyway, my little miss has just woken up. They are both sick with colds today and I'm feeling so low about it. I know it's only colds but it slightly freaks me out because of Olivia being in hospital. Anyway, hope you are all well and I'll hopefully catch up with you all again soon.

Nat xx

[Seacretsquirrel]

Kate - Riley is still up about a couple of times over night (usually between midnight an 3am and then again at 4-30 to 6am is) and he is 7.3 kgs so prob doesn't need the extra sustainence but it is far easier to give him a feed and pop him back than trying to resettle with just the dummy and at the moment my sanity has to come first! :D that said he seems to have much longer feeds at night cause Zahlia seems to distract him so much that the day feeds tend to be pretty short and frequent I might have to try to get longer day feeds happening so I have fewer night ones but he is still young so I am not too worried.
Off to vacuum so bye for now!:gloomy:

[abybaby]

Hi Everyone,

It's been pretty quiet in here again!! I guess it makes it easy to catch up on posts at least.

Kate - I have a friend with a bub that only sleeps for 15 minutes 3 times per day and then 4 hourly stints through the night. Pretty sure it has to do with reflux as another person i know has a similar problem. I know that doesn't help you and i guess even knowing that you are not alone isn't really saving your sanity!! You poor thing - when my bub was sick for 1 week i thought it was the worst thing in the world, i don't know how you do it but i guess it is just one minute at a time, one foot in front of the other.

SS - Great work on the 4x4!! Did you just crack up laughing?

OCM - Did you manage to get the medicine into your little one? A Dr told me that it is like giving medicine to a kitten, shoot it straight down the side to the back, kind of where your wisdom teeth come up.

AFU - We have had a quiet couple of days.... Bub has decided that farex with banana isn't too bad but she likes to play with it more at this stage. I just keep offering it every few days but at least now she is swallowing some. I'm not fussed yet, still keeping it very relaxed. I can't wait for the school holidays, my hubby has the whole two weeks off and we are taking off in one direction for the first week, home for a few days and then the other direction for the second week! Probably be exhausted by the end of it but it should be fun.

Anyway, i'm off to haul washing in from the clothesline - hope everyone is having a good day!

[Seacretsquirrel]

Hmmm not quite seeing the funny side yet perhaps when the car has its carpets back in - Which has to wait till DH gets home in 6 weeks!:yes:

[janiceg]

well ladies,
it seems we are all so busy! and our lil ones are growing up too fast! i can hardly believe dd will be 5 months next week!
time is just flying!
we are doing well...loving the cloth nappies! can't believe i didn't switch before! what was i thinking?!
dd loves her solids and it's hard to eat anything without her wanting a lick! so it has me eating a lot healthier too! which is good as i still have a lot of baby weight to lose ;(
we are cosleeping too which makes things so much better! dh took one side off the cot and put it next to our bed-all i have to do is roll over, feed and roll back. it's a dream!
kate, she usually goes to bed at 6 or 7pm and can wake up for a feed anytime between 12 and 2am and again between 4 and 6. gets up for the day about 7am-ish
big hugs to all that need them, are back at work or on their own
xx janice

[Seacretsquirrel]

OCM- on the getting them to take medicine I used to pop my finger in Z's mouth and let her suck on it and after a few seconds of that slip the little dropper/siringe thingo down beside my finger and she'd usually swallow it down better.

otherwise try another brand R is having the chemists own panadol and even Z will take it and she spits the regular panadol out (although it tastes the same to me) I am sure I saw on another post that there is another option for panadol (not nurofen) perhaps ask the chemist

[JLeesmum]

hello everyone, its been a long tim e since ive been on, but i just realized how old our bubs r getting, its scary.. Jydens doing well, 8.5kgs!! not bad for a bub born 3.080kgs! hes eating solids twice a day, loves apples, pears, pumpkinand potato, he hated farex, so that didnt last long.. he sometimes sleeps 12 hours solid, but usually sleeps 7pm-3am 3.30am-6am...he is laughing heaps, expecially at his dad!:o he squeals if im throwing him around (nicely of course..) or say .. 'ready'...'steady'....'GO" and he squeals...lol..
im waiting for some teeth to show but im still waiting... he sleeps 30 mins every 2 hours during the day.. sometimes.. ok i gtg Jyden wants me......

[ardora]

Hi all,

SS- I guess it will take some time before you laugh too much about it :) We once, for work, bogged a big land cruiser on the beach and it was not fun at all getting in out... the amount of sand that fits underneath one of those massive 4WD!:o

Re-medicines. G takes anything with no problem, even the ones that the doctor warned that tasted really bad.

Re-sleeping. G is exclusively BF and I put him down to sleep about 8:30pm and sleeps until anytime between 4:30 and 8:30 am, more often than not is about 5am. After a feed he goes back to sleep for 2 to 3 more hours and that is his sleep for the night. I could possibly give him the dummy so he sleeps more often until 8am or so, but he has been so slow putting on weight that I do want to feed him every time he asks for it (for now... let's see in a month ;))

AFU- we are expending some days away and G has come down with an ear and throat infection. We went to the GP yesterday and he is with antibiotics the poor little thing... I feel horrible because he has had ear discharge for days and I thought it was wax... until I realised that it was WAY too much wax :doh::o and took him to the GP... in my defence I will add that G did not complain at all until he developed a fever, what a boy!! Anyway, he is now on the mend and going back to his content normal self.

Hope you are having a great day :goodvibes:

[gizmoduckus]

Hi all!

I hope everyone is well. I thought I should update you with how we are going.

Liam has finally started rolling. It seems like he is just taking his time. It is so strange for me because DS1 was crawling at this stage.

I finally weighed and measured him today for the first time in weeks. He is now 8.5kgs and 65cms long. He is starting to lose his fat little belly now and I miss seeing it. :(

His sleeping is all over the place. Sometimes he is really good and other times he is a nightmare. When he barely sleeps is when I can't wait for him to grow up already so that he doesn't need as many sleeps.

My sister is due next week. She had her OB appointment and she is already 3cms dialated so it could be any day now. I can't believe that she is one of the lucky ones who has dialated without having contractions. With DS1 I was in labour at the hospital and I was only 3cms until right up close to the end.

Well that is all from me. I think I am going to take some panadol now. I have a headache because my neck is out. I am always having problems with it. :gloomy:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Arrrrgh why is it that anything to do with cars takes twice as long as they say!!!! I spent 6 hours sitting at nissan (just over 3 of them with both kids!) Luckily they have a little play ground so we sat out there (and the weather was nice so it was okay) A wonderful GF came and picked up Z just after 11 (we'd been there since about quarter to 8) so she got a play date which was nice and a relief for me!

Adora - Riley had an ear infection a while ago and he was the same no symptoms other than the discharge he didn't even get a temp - I am sure the dr didn't believe me! - It was a nurse on the phone who said if I pressed on the little cartlidge bit of his ear (you know the little ridge thatis between you face and ear - I am sure it has a propper name:o) and if he squeeks then it is prob an ear infection so I keep an eye on that now.

Anyway I am off to bed (an early one for a change) Hope you all had a good day and have a great one tomorrow!:wave:
night all:sleeping: - oh and the trip to nissan had nothing to do with playing in the mud!:laughing:

[Purplebird]

SS - 6 hours at Nissan - that's terrible! Thank goodness you had a GF to come and take Z off your hands.

Kate - did you find out when you can get into the clinic? I hope you find it helpful - I know my girlfriend did. If it's any consolation Cam wakes every 2-3 hours still. His sister didn't start sleeping 4-5 hour stretches until she was at least 6 months, so I'm hoping he will get the hang of it about then too. I'm very lucky though in that he settles quickly after a night feed, so there's no crying or screaming to cope with. I don't think I'd manage that so well.

Janice - we sleep with a cot at the side of the bed too, it makes life so much easier. Good to hear you're enjoying the cloth!

Miss E and I have had a horrid gastro bug thing since Sunday. It has been awful and we're only just now recovering - it has left us feeling pretty weak and tired. Luckily Cameron seems to have escaped it, but he does have a cold which is really bothering him. I can't get anything out with the Little Fess thing so I keep putting Vics Baby Balsom on his chest so that he can at least breathe through his nose for feeds.

I guess it's that time of year for sickness!

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

hiya ladies :wave:

i'm so bad with posting in here- get so caught up with facebook all day that i forget i didn't look in here til i get the update email.

first of all giant hugs :hugs: to everyone who is sick or whose bubs are sick.

good luck Kate at the sleep boot camp!! somethings gotta work!

well i think i may have solved Elianna's feeding issues AND my supply issues in one go :smiliedance:... I know it goes completely against what all the breastfeeding books say about building up supply but i've discovered that if i allow 3.5-4 hours between feeds she stays on much longer (nearly 30 mins) than before when i was feeding every 2.5-3 hours (when she was only suckling happily for 5 minutes and then throwing her head back and refusing) and as i said above, i don't seem to be running out of milk anymore. i will keep an eye on her weight gain to make sure its satisfying her, but so far so good. so now we're feeding about 5 times every 24 hours (which horrified the nurse who insists we should feed 7 times) 4am, 8am, 12pm, 4pm, 8pm. and even though it means i will probably be doing that 4am feed for a bit longer i don't really mind as she is so much happier throughout the day.

ss i feel for you re. 6 hrs at nissan, thats insane, thank God for your GF taking Z for part of it.

gizmo :yelclap:well done on the rolling little man! and congrats to your sis! i hear you on the neck thing. i found i was waking every morning with a stiff neck and a killer headache. i tried all combos of pillow numbers, heights and softness to no avail. then last friday went and bought one of those latex foam, firm dual support pillows (on clearance at $60, down from $90) and i haven't looked back. its just amazing what a difference a good quality pillow has made- just a thought for you (i really didn't want to spend the money, then DH pointed out how much i was spending by buying new pillows very 3 months and i was convinced :o)


ohh a question from a nervous first time mum...i have noticed that Elianna smells very very sweet...when i go into her room for the 4 am feed it smells like a lolly factory. even her pee smells sweet (and she's not really pooing but when she does that smells sweet too) now i know that babies smell good, but this is kinda like strong maple syrup or standing over a fairy floss machine. Does anyone know if this is something i should worry about? i don't see the nurse next until 4th August and the doctor isn't until 2 weeks after that. i just keep thinking diabetes or some other life-threatening condition. so i guess i'm wondering if i'm worrying over nothing or if i should work out a way to get her to a doctor sooner (i don't drive and our doctor isn't accessible by bus so i would have to get DH to take a half day and try and book us in to our notoriously busy GP).

thanks ladies
:kiss:
Kath

[janiceg]

Don't want to freak you out but i've heard of it before...
Maple syrup urine disease (MSUD) is a disorder passed down through families where the person cannot break down certain parts of proteins. Their urine can smell like maple syrup.
I'd be off to the Dr's just to be sure, hun!

[ardora]

Hi everyone,

G is much better (yay!); SS I did try to push in that place you mentioned (I don't know the proper name) because my mother explaiend that to me BUT G was not complaining when I pushed in there, so I guess he is a real macho-man that does nto feel the pain :D

PB, gastro?!!! you poor thing, I cannot imagine going through gastro while BF... it is tiring enough! I hope you are getting better.

GBG8M I did the same from the beginning, when G wasn't waking up for feeds they told me to wake him up every 3 hours and he wasn't drinking much, instead, I increased the interval to 3.5 and it was fine. Since 3 months, he has been drinking every 4 hours 5 times a day and he has been putting even more weight than before. Now that his infection has cleared, he is drinking much better, BUT he still fusses and drinks fast for some of the day feeds.

We went to the park yesterday and he loved being there on a blanket. Then we went out for dinner and came back too late for his routine and instead of skipping the bath, we took the normal hour in getting him ready to go to bed... the result was that he was too tired to drink, and too overtired to sleep and it took us an hour to settle him (he normally self settles in the cot) ... silly us!

Have a great day!! :goodvibes:

[Lateralus]

Good evening ladies. Hope everyone has had a good week.. We are booked into sleep and settling boot camp next week- so we'll be there monday to friday! I am so excited - trying not to get my hopes up too much but am hoping that we'll be able to at least get Zoe sleeping &/or settling a bit better. :fingerscrossed:

GBAGM Sometimes I notice that Zoe has a very sweet smell about her... It's not her urine so much as her poops and farts. Smells sort of like shortbread or butterscotch or something :laughing: In saying that, sometimes her farts are lethal though - gives DH a run for his money in the gross department :laughing:

Also - how do you string E out to get her feeds 3/5-4 hours between feeds? If she is really hungry and yelling for a feed after 2 hours or so, how do you get her to last that extra hour and a half? I have tried it with Zoe, but when she is hungry, she is hungry and won't wait a second longer without screaming blue murder!

PB :hugs: hope you are feeling better after your gastro - it takes it out of you, you poor things!

Ardora hope G got back into the swing of things after his little break in routine yesterday!!

SS BOO for having to wait 6 hours for your car. You'd think with a couple of kids in tow they'd put you down as a high priority!

[A'sMummy]

Hi Ladies :wave: I have been MIA for a little while in regards to posting, but I have been lurking here every day reading everyone elses posts. I have nothing really exciting to write about!

Anya is still waking around 3 times a night but is easily settled with a feed. I tend to feed her every 3 hours during the day aswell. Seems to keep her happy. I also thinking she might be starting to teeth so I go her a baltic amber teething necklace which we tried for the first time today. I will let you know if I notice any results. ;)

We are also busy planning her name day which will be on the 2nd of August. Trying to tidy up the house, do the gardening etc all in preperation for the big day. We are expecting around 80 people at our house so we have hired a marquee and organised catering so we can enjoy the day too.

:hugs: to all those who have been sick or have had sick bubs. And KJ I hope the settling boot camp goes well, I will be thinking of you next week!
I also find that Anya has a sweet smell, her breath and poo always smells like lollies. Not sure why :confused:

[Purplebird]

Thank you - we are feeling much better, just a bit light-headed now. Unfortunately I already seem to have 'found' the weight I lost! Ah well, gotta keep my strength up for the little man.

GBAGM - that's great that you have settled little E into a nice routine that suits you. I have noticed that Cam's poos smell sweet if he has been under-feeding a bit (I can only tell because of the size of my boobs, lol!). So maybe he has been getting too much foremilk. I'm not saying that's the case with E though and if you have got her taking long feeds now perhaps she will stop smelling sweet!

We have a busy couple of days coming up. Our house auction is on Saturday morning, so keep everything crossed for us! there has been 100+ groups through the house and also 4 building inspections, so hopefully we will get some bids. I can't wait to get back to living like a pig frankly! It has been rather trying getting the house to look immaculate three times a week, with a grumpy baby and a toilet training toddler.

[Purplebird]

A's mummy - how are you managing with juggling work? It must be so draining! The naming day sounds lovely.

Kate - best of luck for next week. I hope they look after you and give you some much needed rest.

[A'sMummy]

PB- I am finding juggling work and Anya quite hard at times. Especially when we have had a bad night with 3+ wake ups. Anya settles quickly, but I get myself all worked up and emotional if I have had to get up multiple times and then struggle to get back to sleep. So I am just trying to take it one day at a time and not think about the "lack" of sleep :rolleyes:
I have been lucky that although I am supposed to work 40 hours a week, I have been able to do a lot from home so I can see more of Anya which is great! Also she goes to my Mums when I have to be out and about with work and she is a little angel there and is in such great hands I haven't had to worry, thank god!
Thanks for asking how I am going :hugs:

[parentingrocks]

OMG I WISH CHARLIS POOS SMELT LIKE MAPLE SYRUP AND LOLLIES............!!!! HER'S SMELL LIKE A RACOON HAS CRAWLED UP HER BUM AND DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Well, A's mummy, nice to hear from you finally!! Wondering where you have been.. I was also wondering how work has been going for you - I did post that question a week or too back but you never replied you meanie!! :laughing: all jokes...
I just went back last week too but only part time so I can imagine it must be hard if your expected to do 40hours a week, thats heaps!
Charli has been unsettle the last few nights, she has big lumps where her bottom two teeth are coming through and now she has a cold:( poor little bugga has been sooky and miserable all day... you know, not full on crying or screaming, just has a sad face all the time and really sooky, only wants cuddles. poor chicken I just feel so sorry for her so I'm not to bothered getting up at night for her at the moment... sounds horrible but I am hoping because she is sick that it will make her sleep through tonight, cos you know when they are coming down with something they tend to sleep a lot, well I hope her biggest symptom is sleep, that would be nice.

Well DP has the day off tomorrow and depending on how Charli is in the morning we might hit the shops for a bit of retail therapy and lunch. We are really in need of a good chat and catch-up I find we hardly talk at the moment and are always snapping at each other, we need some time together.

Anyway enough bable from me. Hope all is well with you all.

Hope the work/Anya balance settles down for you A'smummy so you can start getting more sleep you poor bugga, and you too Kate, hope sleep boot camp is beneficial for you and Zoe. All the best

x

[Lateralus]

OMG I WISH CHARLIS POOS SMELT LIKE MAPLE SYRUP AND LOLLIES............!!!! HER'S SMELL LIKE A RACOON HAS CRAWLED UP HER BUM AND DIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


x

haha - Solsen - such a way with words!!!

PB best of luck with the auction!!

A'smum what a wonderwoman - working 40 hours a week - I am in awe of your stamina! Good luck with the planning of the naming ceremony - sounds like it will be a lovely day!

[A'sMummy]

Oh I am sorry Solsen, I am a meanie!! I did see your post last week but forgot to mention it in my post, I appreciate you asking :hugs:
And I am very sorry to hear that Charlis poos don't smell like lollies hahaha you made me spit out my breaky when I read your post LOL!!
Hope her little toothy pegs come through soon!
KJ- I am so not a wonder women, I "should" be working as we speak but instead I am browsing bubhub, facebook and whatever else can waste some more time hehehe

[floodprincess]

:wave: ladies....

Random serial poster returns to Feb 09 mums chat...lol...

How is everyone? I've had a few opportunities to pop in and see what's happening but very little time to post.

So, a quick question - at what point does one 'generally' swap from aging baby in weeks to months??

we were at the CHN yesterday getting Monique weighted and measured when I was asked how old she was...and it got me to thinking, now that she's technically 20 weeks (5 calendar months next friday); when should I change over?? lol - the stooopid things I think about hey?

anyway, enough randomness....a quick update, we're going well, after a rough settling in period back at work for me, its nice to find that I've got the expressing down pat and Monique is gaining weight beautifully - she's still a petite 5.7kgs, and 63cms long, but chatting and smiling sooo well.

It's great to come home after a tiring day to watch her whole body light up in excitement at my return - A'smummy & other working mums, you know what I mean. All mothers get it, but it's extra special for full timers....god speaking of work, what a time!! I just get caught up on everything that's gone on, when the boss informs me that he's on 8 weeks leave, and I'm it (so I'm back doing the work of 2 people again)....:hair:

ahh well...I love it and I'm counting the days - as soon as he get's back I'm off on three weeks leave (got told that I HAD to take leave because I had too much accrued)..

Take care girls, I'm off to finish up Friday (going to finish early so I can beat the school holiday ski traffic down the M5)

[A'sMummy]

FP- I know what you mean about the whole body excited look they give you when they first see you after a hard day at work. It is priceless and really makes my day!! My heart melts a million times over :cloud9:
As for weeks and months etc, I have started saying Anyas age in months (but only because I can't keep up with what week we are in :o) haha

[gizmoduckus]

So, a quick question - at what point does one 'generally' swap from aging baby in weeks to months??


Usually after 12 weeks (around 3 months old) you change to months. They change so much in the first 12 weeks that you go by weeks to know what is happening. After that you go to months when things start to slow down a bit.

I have also found that after the age of 2, you stop saying months and start saying years. It's funny how it just seems to happen.

Well, I have had a terrible day but I am too over it to even tell you all about it. I am sitting here with a glass of baileys hoping that it makes me feel better. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day for me. :(

[2boyoboys]

Hello every one,

I got referred here by A'sMummy while we were discussing MCN,

Here is a bit about my self and my family

I had a baby boy on the 21st feb 09, he is a little brother for my 2.5 yo.

Im a SAHM at the moment, but in 'real' life i am a graphic designer (finished my BA when DS1 was 12 months old). I havnt worked in the industry yet, but im looking at going back to study to keep my mind fresh.

I live in the geelong area with the two boys and my DP.

So far DS2 has been a dream baby, once we got over jaundice and lactose intollerance at birth, all he does he sleeps eats and smiles and laughs. :)

looking forward to getting to know u all

[Seacretsquirrel]

Welcome 2boyoboys we look forward to getting to know you too.
There are a few of us in here who have older ratbags too the 2.5 age gap is quite popular.

Gizmo hope your baileys helped and you have a better day today!
FP welcome back! I agree with gizmo after 3-4 months you kinda go with months and after 2 (ish) you co with years (but you do include the half once they get there) and then it becomes almost 3:D
I agree Kate Solsen is very elequent! Riley sometimes has the sweet smelling poos too and Zahlia's always had a sort of honey smell - until solids that is!

AFU we have had a pretty good week spoke to DH on Thursday night and again yesterday morning!!! Also went to Target and preordered a tramp for the kids - The IL's gave us $300 towards one for last xmas but I have been humming and hahing about what to get plus with only having Target, kmart big W and toyworld to get tramps from I was limited to when they have stock which is rare and they go super fast. So I preordered from target but I'm getting it in early Oct rather than for xmas!:smiliedance: much better than jumping on my bed!!!!
Having a quiet one here this weekend - I tend to go inot hibernation on the weekends whrn DH is away cause the shops and other places are jsut nuts and I'd rather go when it is quieter during the week.
I do have to go to the supermarket and get some nappies though so I really should do that shortly. so :wave: for now have a great weekend!

[A'sMummy]

2boyoboys- Glad you found us and welcome!! :wave:
You live not too far away from me, I am in Bacchus Marsh and quite often go to Geelong for work and to visit the rellies. I also spent many years down there studying nursing/psych at Deakin Uni. I also barrack for Geelong in the AFL LOL :D

Anyway bubs is having a little whinge at the moment, better go attend to her

[sweetseven]

I mentioned the nappies smelling like lollies and maple syrup to DP and he got really worried. He lived with a diabetic (childhood onset) for ten years and said that was one of the major symptoms. I really think you should get it checked out, but I'm hoping it is not that severe.

My bub is doing well. She had some porridge a couple of days ago and loved that. I'm afraid I've been a bit lazy by only giving her yoghurt up until now. The others had much more varied diets, but I'm just sticking with what works.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Wow So many of you are powering along with the solids!!! We are not going there just yet but R is a month younger than som of the other "Feb" bubs I am planning on holding out till closer to the 6 month mark - although he was eyeing of my dinner the other night!:yelclap:

I was wondering though how you are all going with your hair mine has started falling out by the bucket load!!! (well it feels that way) I remember it happening with Z too I had a lovely receeding hair line I was hoping that having short hair now might save me from the obvious lack of hair (don't worry it did grow back:yes:) I don't know if BF means it starts later than if you are FF ??? be interesting to know :D
Anyhoo I am off to bed night all :sleeping:

[sweetseven]

I don't remember any of my girls hair falling out where they were bubs, and this one's not either. However, all my girls had very little hair as babies, and this one is the same.

[floodprincess]

Wow So many of you are powering along with the solids!!! Not powering along here, but moving steadily, although I'm never one to stick to too many guidelines (with DD1, if you had mentioned the WHO, you would have gotten blank looks) but I'm a firm believer in the fact that mum knows her bub best - and what works for me, may not work for you!! We seem to enjoy a solid breakfast around 0900 (:( 'cause I'm normally at work) and roughly 3 out of 5 nights we'll have solid dinner (:yelclap: I get to see 'cause I"m home) but we've only tried potato (kinda liked) pumpkin (loved) mixed potato and pumpkin (yeah well) and sweet potato (OMG BRING IT ON)....tonight we tried carrot - will see how it goes....anyway I digress...SS, R and you will 'do' solids when you are ready and not before!!!! I'm sure you will realise that this is about what works for you Z & R and no one else (well, except maybe DH)...


I was wondering though how you are all going with your hair mine has started falling out by the bucket load!!! (well it feels that way) I remember it happening with Z too I had a lovely receeding hair line I was hoping that having short hair now might save me from the obvious lack of hair (don't worry it did grow back:yes:) I don't know if BF means it starts later than if you are FF ??? be interesting to know :D


CHECK!! OMFG, it's like bigfoot or something lives here!!!! DD1, god bless her heart (:hair:) got into the shower after me the other day (so I had no time to clean things like the plug hole) and has her shower.....well doesn't say anything to me, but next morning I have a heart attack when I see this massive (and I mean HUGE) rat on the bathroom ceiling.......on closer inspection, its a wad of hair from the plug hole...DD1 confessed to not knowing what to do with it (even though the toilet is right beside the shower)....


I don't remember any of my girls hair falling out where they were bubs, and this one's not either. However, all my girls had very little hair as babies, and this one is the same.

OMG...Monique lost all the front part of her hair - she needs a toupe (lol).....it's the funniest thing!! Tiff only had the standard back of head hair loss from rubbing her head on 'stuff' but Monique, well she has both!!! It's funny but weird at the same time..

Thanks for the advice on months vs. weeks - I can't remember what we did with DD1, it's just that with DD2 both wks and months seems a little foreign and I was searching for a happy medium -which I'm sure doesn't exist (funny about the yrs though - the almost 4 or 16 1/2 kinda stops after 21!!!)

Welcome 2boyoboys.....both my girls had mild jaundice, so I know what that's like...looking forward to hearing your stories too!!

[Lateralus]

:wave: welcome 2boyoboys

SS OMG - check on the hair falling out. :laughing: I thought it was from stress!! Every time I have a shower I have to de-hair the plug hole 3 or 4 times of I find myself ankle deep in water! And we have little hairy dust bunnies all over the house no matter how often we vacuum!

Also SS we haven't started solids yet. I have bought some rice cereal, but I think we will wait 'till Z is 6 months. Given all her allergies and sensitivities I think we'd be wise to wait 'till she's a bit older before we introduce anything else to her diet!

AFU we have had some total shockers the last few days - Zoe has been so cranky and has spent the majority of her waking hours crying and screaming. It's getting so hard to take. BUT - on the up side, we are off to the residential sleep school tomorrow. We are up there for a week and I CANNOT FRIGGIN WAIT. I am trying not to get my hopes up too much, but I just hope they can help us help Zoe to be a happier little soul. :fingerscrossed:

Hope everyone has a great week and I'll fill you all in when we get back from Brisbane! :sunshine:

[Seacretsquirrel]

FP - I didn't mean to sound like any of you are doing the wrong thing I am just constantly amazed how fast our tiny bubs are getting to be big bubs. I agree with the mum knows best thing I don't think anyone knows a baby like his or her parents!

Kate - good luck with the sleep school I hope it helps with Z's sleeping (or lack there of).

Tiera3 - I have baldy babies too Z didn't have much hair till one ish and it looks like R is heading the same way (both DH and I were baldy too)
any way better be off take care!:wave:

[A'sMummy]

Oh my gosh I thought it was just me with the hair falling out thing!! So glad to hear I am not balding young... or that it is falling out from stress :D. Each morning in the shower I manage to pull out a huge clump, and then when I get out of the shower and brush it another huge clump. And we also have hairy "dust bunnies" all over the house too KJ :o. How long does the hair loss normally go on for? I will be fully bald if it goes on for much longer!! ARGH!

[Seacretsquirrel]

A's mummy it went for ages for me with Z But you don't shed hair (or not as much) when you are pregnant so the shedding is both catch up on what you didn't lose when preg and a bit of hormonal stuff to. As I said I had a receeding hair line last time esp temples and just above my ears but this time it is a bit more all over. Apparently you can loose othe body hair too (legs underarms, bikini even eyebrows and eyelashes). Just keep an eye on it and make sure it is not leaving big patches as that can be alopecia (sp?) rather than the normal loss!

[2boyoboys]

2boyoboys- Glad you found us and welcome!! :wave:
You live not too far away from me, I am in Bacchus Marsh and quite often go to Geelong for work and to visit the rellies. I also spent many years down there studying nursing/psych at Deakin Uni. I also barrack for Geelong in the AFL LOL :D

Thank you. im actually the other side of geelong though, in Anglesea- but often when i say anglesea- people have no idea where it is:laughing:. Its still not very far from you though. Both my and DP family live in A'sea so we dont have to go far to visit rello's.
Im looking into the Nursing/Mid course ATM- fingers crossed i might start that either next year or the year after- (depending on the kids)

I have been loosing heaps of hair, i thought i was just cos my hair is heaps longer now that after DS1 was born, but hopefully it settles down. I would also talk to you hair dresser next time your in too, cos mine has cut my hair to look 'fuller'


the 2.5 year age gap is popular, i think its cos at 18 months old, we thought 'wow, we could do this again' with our realising that terrible two's were just around the corner. but i will prob have a similar gap between DS2 and bub no.3 (if and when that happens)

We havnt given DS2 any solids yet- im sure he would love some, but because of his food allergy it is better if we wait as long as possible.

I think its amazing how many of you have returned to work!! we dont have child care here so its 25 min away, and i dont have a job to go back to either :laughing:

[gizmoduckus]

As I said I had a receeding hair line last time esp temples and just above my ears but this time it is a bit more all over.

OMG! I have the receding hair line this time around. I think I have lost more hair this time than I did with DS1.

Sorry to tell all of you first time ladies but it gets worse. When your hair starts growing back it looks shocking. All the little hairs growing back just make your hair look frizzy and there is not much you can do except wait for them to grow out.

KateJo - Good luck with the sleep school. I will be thinking of you all week.
2boyoboys - Welcome!
A's mummy - So you live in Bacchus Marsh? My cousin just moved there a couple of months ago. What is it like?

[floodprincess]

FP - I didn't mean to sound like any of you are doing the wrong thing I am just constantly amazed how fast our tiny bubs are getting to be big bubs. I agree with the mum knows best thing I don't think anyone knows a baby like his or her parents!



Lol....I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought you had!! I was attempting to continue the conversation....

It is amazing how quickly the bubs are growing, I was looking at M this morning and wondering where my tiny little bubby has run away to! In her place is this larger critter who sleeps less!!!

On that, what does everyone 'do' with their bubbas while they're awake? I found this stage really tricky with Tiffani, they're awake more and need entertaining but they aren't quite big enough for a lot of the really fun toddler type games...

[BoyCrazy]

On that, what does everyone 'do' with their bubbas while they're awake? I found this stage really tricky with Tiffani, they're awake more and need entertaining but they aren't quite big enough for a lot of the really fun toddler type games...

just a quickie as bub due for feed..but we got a jumperoo the other day as u may have seen on my FB.. bub is in love with it..i can get about 20 mins hands free time at the moment, :yelclap::D its a fisher price rainforest one its awesome!

check on hair falling out..omg..i could go into business selling wigs from all of it i reckon lol

kate- ill pm u my mobile no. if u have some free time for a cuppa while your up here would be great to catch up :)

ok, im being yelled at now by a hungry man, hope everyone is well & bubbas are being kind to their mummies! :wave:

[parentingrocks]

hey there ladies.

have had no net for 2 days because it was blowing a gale here and we lost power and that in turn f'd up our net, finally got it sorted today.
So, yes Charlis poos are still lethal - the smell that is. I am very envious of these honey smelling ones all your bubs are producing.

I am proud to say I beacome an Auntie yesterday to my SIL's little bubba... a little boy named Xavier Jay. He is absoluetly adorable!!!!!!! Man its crazy how fast you forget how small a newborn is and all that comes with just having given birth. She is going really well though. Can't wait for Charli and Xavier to hang out when he is a bit older, they are even going to the same school and will probably be in the same grade so some exciting years ahead for our families! Her and I have been best mates since year 7 at high school and she introduced me to her brother so we are very very close. Her birth story was amazing, it all happened so fast, and I loved hearing every moment of it as she went through it all with me last night when we visited. She is amazing. I'm so proud of her... and A'smummy - I've been meaning to ask you about your SIL and how you've been going with her since having Anya.. this SIL of mine I am very close with as I said but I rmeber talking with you when we were pregnant about my other SIL who I can't stand... OK it may sound like jealousy... but she was back in her size 6 jeans with room to spare in a matter of weeks and her baby is just this little angel that you never hear a peep out of and never needed wrapping or a dummy or anything! she fed like a dream and slept like a dream and all I heard was bragging from this SIL about how perfect her kid was (this was all after I just had Charli who was a screamer for the forst 6 weeks and I am so self conscious because I've lost my post-baby body)... so yeah she was and still is so hard to deal with.. how are you and your SIL now A'smummy?

xxx

[sweetseven]

Can't wait for Charli and Xavier to hang out when he is a bit older, they are even going to the same school and will probably be in the same grade so some exciting years ahead for our families!Well, here in Queensland, the school cutoff date was recently changed to June 30th to bring it in line with other states. Thus since Xavier is early July, I suspect Charli will be a year ahead of him in school.

[zephani]

Well, here in Queensland, the school cutoff date was recently changed to June 30th to bring it in line with other states. Thus since Xavier is early July, I suspect Charli will be a year ahead of him in school.

:iagree: I am a school teacher and that's what it is in NSW. Charli was born in February she would go to school in 2014 and if Xavier was born in July he would go to school in 2015.

I will try to update later tonight. Katherine just had two tablespoons of mashed banana and avocado for dinner and she absolutely LOVED it!

[OneCheekyMonkey]

Sorry I havent updated in ages, it is good to hear that most bubs are gaining weight at a great healthy pace :)

I am about ready to cry with exhaustion, I cannot seem to stop D snacking all night. I am not sure whether it is teething related or what, because he used to do about 6-7 hours at night but it has been every 2 hours for the past week.

I did read everyones posts but I am so brain tired that I cannot remember to do personals.

[A'sMummy]

Solsen- My SIL is so damn skinny and wears size six too, was back in her pre-preg jeans a few days after giving birth (sooo jealous LOL :o). Her bubby girl (my only neice or nephew) is 20 months old now. She is the cutest little thing but can be quite sooky, like more sooky than Anya, so that makes me kinda happy (mean and spiteful I know!!). But she had the easiest pregnancy, when I had nothing but hospitalizations for morning sickness, anaemia etc, and she just "popped" out her baby with 2 mins of pushing, when I had a 2 day labour and 3 hours of pushing... so I figure somethings got to work in my favour :D. She also calls Anya Fatty, which I HATE with a passion, chubby I can handle but fatty no way!!
Man I could whinge all day about my SIL hahaha but Solsen, I know how it feels to have an annoying SIL :rolleyes:

[Lateralus]

well, as fate would have it, Zoe has woken up sick this morning which is bad enough... But it means that they won't accept us up at the sleep and settling clinic this week. So the light at the end of the tunnel has been temporarily extinguished. Her first cold in almost 5 months and it had to happen this week. Poor chicken. :crying:

[parentingrocks]

OH MY GOD KATE THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a shame! Poor littlr Zoe... Hope the cold clears up and sge gets some needed rest time in. Stay positive Kate.

haha A'smummy, how hard it having a SIL you clash with!! I'm just so sick of the constant dirty looks I get about still being out of shape, and I'm not that fat at all just my shape has changed. I can't believe your SIL calls A fatty, that is so rude... I have got that a few times and I hate it!!!!!! Charli is a little chubby checker but it just makes her look heathy... she just has an addiction to booby juice thats all!!:laughing:

Well what a shame, from what some of you said Charli and her new cousun won't be in the same grade at school, I didn't realise they enforced the cut off dates I thought it was still sort of the parents choice, so I assumed Charli would just be a bit older than the rest of the grade, but obviously not, oh well at least they can play at recess and lunch time together!!

I',m going to have a lazy day today, just stay indoors and clean up a bit, the house really needs it. bye for now

[sweetseven]

DP & DD1 keep asking me, "Are you sure you are not pregnant?" at every possible symptom, and it is starting to get me wondering. I dont feel pregnant and had one visit from AF four weeks after bub was born, and then she hasn't been back since. DP also had a vasectomy late last year, but didn't get around to the followup checkup. And I'm fully breastfeeding, though she has gone longer than 6 hours between feeds.

Thus while there is a chance, it is highly unlikely.

Now for the possible symptoms that seem to be adding up:

* I've been passing a lot of gas.

* I'm desiring, and eating, a lot of sweets and chocolates, and have been especially wanting chocolate cake with whipped cream.

* Getting tired easily, and taking naps or going to bed early (when bub allows). After being out for awhile, I've been tending to opt for DP to drive home (if he is there), because I can feel myself flagging and am concerned my reflexes might not be quite as sharp.

* Eating a lot. My appetite has definately increased.

* lack of interest in sex.

I'm sure there are more, but that is all that I can think of right now. And most can be explained by the demands of breastfeeding and looking after a large family. It is not really enough to suspect anything. I think it is just DP & DD1's suspicions getting to me, so I thought I would ask for a little reassurance. (And please dont get me wrong for saying such. If I were, any baby would be welcomed and loved. I just have my hands full right now and DP thinks seven is enough.)

[A'sMummy]

GizmoD- I love Bacchus Marsh... I have been here since I was 5 and then convince DH to build here when we were looking at building our house a few years ago (he is not originally a Bacchus boy). It still has the "country" feel, but is still so close to Melbourne. I don't think I would move anywhere else in Vic.... unless it was by the ocean and close to the city too... which is a tough to find unless you are filthy rich!! Damn :rolleyes:
KJ- :hugs: I hope lil Zoe is feeling better soon! You poor things, just never seems to go your way! Keep smiling... there WILL be a light at the end of the tunnel!!
t3- Wow, they do sound kinda like preg symptoms, but you're right, they also sound like "busy mum" symptoms. Have you pee'd on a stick yet? Hope you get the answer you're looking for :hugs:

[quitecontrary]

Just caught up on a whole lot of chat here!!
Hello!
Yes, we have made it back (reluctantly) from our Tropical Holiday! It was great, gorgeous weather, swimming, exploring and generally lazing around the place. The kids both enjoyed themselves - Genevieve in particular really loved having dh at her beck and call - she loves her Daddy a lot, which is great. When he's around I take a backseat with her, thats for sure. The flight up was probably G's worst-ever, she was up far too early in the morning and carried on all the way, coming home both the kidlets slept for a good chunk of the journey. Made me realise how mad it would've been to take them to England at this age/stage. Though we are going to make that trip again either later in the year, or early next - we need to show Toby off to his English rels!
Anyway, at least it isn't rainy here today, and both the kids are sleeping now, which is just lovely.

tiera hmmm, go and pee on a stick and put your mind at ease! I think its much more likely to be the Big Family and breastfeeding etc - I can relate to most of your symptoms and it would almost be immaculate conception around here if I was pg again right now!
Kate poo to Z being crook and not getting to sleep school this week.
To those of you losing hair, it hasn't started to happen in a big way here, and it didn't after G for ages either. I went and got a hair cut and colour before we went away, and my hairdresser and I were laughing at the fact that I've grown myself a fringe with the regrowth from last time! In fact my hair got too thick there for quite a while.
We're not doing solids here yet, I shudder to think what my big pudding of a boy would be like once he starts eating food. I can tell he's just going to chow down like a champ - I don't know how my wrists will cope with the extra weight!
Toby is just a laugh, such a contented pudding! Its funny when he does wake up hungry as he can't bring himself to smile when we pick him up - its as though he wants to punish us! Its not like he's howling though, just stern! He likes a good chat, and he also mimics G something fierce - she has taken up screaming (great huh) for attention and the next thing you know he's doing the exact same noise - a real treat eh? We had him in his blue and white striped "singlet" easy suit when we were away and he looked like the Strong Man from the circus, such a chunker with his round and basically bald head!

[Seacretsquirrel]

Hey ladies
T3 - I'd be peeing on a stick if I were you - if for no other reason than to shut DP and DD1 up:D
QC - Glad you had a lovely holiday

KJ - fingers crossed Z gets better soon and you can get back into the sleep clinic!

AFU - had R's developmental check up today all is good except his length he has only grown .2 of a cm in 8 weeks so I am off to see the Dr tonight (hoping that my neighbour will pop over and sit with Z who should be in bed!) has anyone heard of bubs not gaining length but getting bigger in head circ and weight and doing all the right milestone type things????
Arrrrgh it is too too worrying!:crying:

[quitecontrary]

SS I'm sorry I don't have any words of wisdom for you, but it seems that R is doing most of the right things - I hope your Doc can throw some light on the issue for you. My thoughts are with you - hope its okay at the appt tonight, and you don't have to take Z with you as well - that is just too hard.:hugs::hugs: and:hugs::fingerscrossed:

[A'sMummy]

SS- I will also be thinking of you and R. I too have no words of wisdom. I hope it's all normal and just comes under the "every baby grows differently" category. My train of thought is that because his head is growing, that is the key thing and a great sign. Maybe he had a growth spurt just before his last check up with his length and has just slowed down the last 8 weeks. :hugs: I hope it will all be ok. I know you must be worried but try not to stress out too much. Let us know how you go. :fingerscrossed:

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

ss- i've never heard of a baby not growing in length but growing in every other way. Surely if his weight and head circ. is fine then he's not delayed, is it possible he's just short? or are they just being overly cautious because of the short legs in your scan during pregnancy? He's a beautiful baby and he's obviously progressing along with the developmental milestones in the proper way, I'll keep praying for you that everything is okay...if its any help Elianna has grown 1 cm in 8 weeks and they keep telling me she's too tall.:rolleyes:

QC i'm glad your holiday was such a success, sounds like you've had much more success with the weather than we've been having. We're also looking at heading to England in the new year to show Elianna off to her grandad and grandma (DH dad and step-mum) but we're jsut waiting to see if Dh gets a bonus this year to help pay for it.

T3 hopefully you've POAS by now and have your answer - i have to say your symptoms sound familiar and like QC it would have to be an immaculate conception, so maybe its jsut busy mum syndrome, plus you have it 7 times as hard as me ;)

Solsen i didn't realise they'd enforce those dates either. Oh well sounds like charli will be able to show her cousin around at school. It may be better that way. they can be good friends outside of school and have other friends inside of school.

OCM :hugs: i hope the snacking settles soon and Dane goes back to sleeping at night...have you tried settling him as much as you can to stretch him out between those feeds so that he takes a bigger feed in and gets a heap of that lovely hindmilk? thats what i had to do with Elianna when she started snacking (although she wasn't teething at the time).

Katejo :hair: if its not one thing its another. Hang in there you are one tough cookie!! oh and i don't think i answered your question about stretching the feeding intervals out. When i first did it i increased the intervals at about 15 minutes at a time till they were at 4 hours. but this time i just did it in one go and went form 3 hours to 4 hours...she grizzled a bit and i distracted her by playing with her on the floor, changing her nappy and listening to some music. then because she'd gone so long between feeds she had a good long one which filled her up well and she had no problem going the next 4hrs. i guess it depends on how easily distracted Zoe is.

zephani what grade do you teach and which school are you at? have you returned to work already? It sounds like Katherine is enjoying her food still. i tried Elianna on banana the other day and she just spat it at me (which is strange when you consider the sheer volume of Bananas i ate whilst pregnant, and still do, and the fact that Dh could eat bananas for breakie lunch and tea without so much as a grimmace. i thought it may have been the texture, but she's been fine with all the other mashed/pureed foods she's tried including pumkin, sweet potato and pear. Oh well i guess she'll eat it when she's ready, i won't give up yet.

AFU
i bought Elianna one of those mesh teething bags and she's been having about half an apple in there each day - she just loves chewing and sucking on it- best buy ever!! I'm getting all geared up for the target toy sale- DH has vollunteered to get in there for the 8am start to try and get Elianna a fisherprice rainforest jumperoo, we put her in the display model on saturday and she had an absolute ball bouncing and spining and reaching- so so cute, definitely worth the $150 on sale.

lol thats probably enough from me, i'd best go and pay some attention to my family

take care
xoxox
Kath

[zephani]

Poor Miss K has a gunky and weepy eye at the moment. We've been to the Dr and it's not conjunctivitis. We just have to wash it out with saline and drops we got from the chemist.

I bought an eliptical cross trainer for $100 off eBay on the weekend. I've been going to Curves for 10 weeks and thought I was getting fitter but after 10 minutes on the trainer I felt like I was going to have a heart attack. I'm going to try to do both the trainer and Curves. I go to Curves 4 - 5 days a week and will try to do the trainer most days of the week.

I can't believe Katherine will be 5 months on Thursday. We've had her measured again and she is 72cm and 9.2kg. She is such a long baby and doesn't look like my little baby girl anymore. She is getting so frustrated with herself at the moment. She is trying to sit up but can't. She gets her legs and head up to 45 degree angles and tries and tries to sit up. She even digs her elbows into the ground hoping that will give her more leverage. Her little face gets red and then when she can't hold it anymore she flops down and growls. She can't roll over yet, but really wants to sit. Currently she is sitting in her bouncer babbling away, kicking her arms and legs everywhere.

Katherine loves her solids as I've said before. We are now having three solids meals a day. Last night I introduced banana for the first time and she loved it. I mixed it with avocado and she had a blast. I thought it tasted ok, but when I gave a little bit to DH to try he thought it was disgusting and spat it out. We were worried about starting her on solids as DH is allergic to practically two thirds of the planet but so far she hasn't had a problem with anything. Fingers crossed it continues.

2boyoboys Welcome! It's great to have new faces around here!

SS Don't stress about people talking about solids. I get the opposite reaction. When people find out that Katherine is only 5 months and is on three solid meals a day I get told that I'm hurting her, I'm making her fat, I'm pushing food on her etc Unfortunately it makes me doubt my parenting ability most days.

How did you go at the Drs with R? Fingers crossed everything is fine. Sending positive thoughts your way.

KJ I'm sorry to hear about Zoe being sick and it meaning that you can't go to the sleep school. Fingers crossed that she gets better soon and you can get another position at the sleep school.

Solsen Here (http://www.schools.nsw.edu.au/gotoschool/primary/startingschool.php) is a link to the NSW Public Schools page on starting schools. It says must be five by July 31st but the page hasn't been updated since 2007. I can ask at school and get the up to date information for you?

T3 Do we know if you are pregnant yet?

GBAGM Last year I taught year 3/4. This year I am supposedly going back on a year 3 class. I am going back week 8 next term, three days a week.

Time to go and give my darling her bottle before bed. She is suck on her sleeve and her hand telling me it feeds time.

I should try to update more regularly. I do read all your posts everyday and think of you all often.

[sweetseven]

I'm deliberately not taking a test 'cause I dont want to give any credance to such concerns. Besides it wouldn't "shut DP & DD1 up" because that would o0nly be a snapshot, and something might've happened inbetween now ad next time they notice something. DP needs to get his follow-up check, 'cause that would indicate permanency (assuming it worked correctly).

Bub had her appointment with a renal specialist today due to having a single umbilical artery. He said that it is mainly gut or kidney problems that are associated with this variance. However her kidneys are obviously working, and she has no signs of gut problems. She's booked for a renal ultrasound and a followup appointment in six weeks, but he's expecting everything to be okay.

He asked about her weepy right eye and said that it is a blocked tear duct, and if it doesn't clear up by nine months they might want to look at probing it. He also approved of her taking solids (especially dairy and cereal), because she is underweight (4.61kg) and made a flippant remark that she probably isn't getting that much from me. I'm just glad that I'm comfortable with her feeding and confident that she is getting what she needs, else that remark could've easily sowed seeds of doubt and worry.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Weeeeeeeell some time between 2pm and 8pm Riley grew 5 cm!!!!!!!

The Dr was wonderful he measured him a couple of times to be sure (65cm) and measured his arm span (63.5) and measured his legs to check the ratio - it should be about 1:7 and Riley is 1:5 (so a wee bit short but not way out there) checked his arms (forearms the same length as upper arms) and felt his hips, knees, ankles and legs - no hardening or unusual anything....
So it seems that my baby boy is just never destined to be a hurdler or high jumper:laughing:
They are going to have a check at 6 months (plus a 5 month check at the clinic) to keep an eye on it (esp since he was had short legs in my tummy) but it seems that he is taking after me and his Dad (rather than the rest of our family (who are all fairly tall)

Thanks so much for all your support ladies (I seriously don't know what I would do with out you esp with DH gone ATM)

big thank you :hugs:

off to bed so night night!:sleeping:

[A'sMummy]

SS- So glad to hear it went all ok!!! Silly MCHN giving you such a scare... would have thought she would have measured twice!!!
Anyway, the most important thing is that R is all ok :hugs:

[Seacretsquirrel]

A's Mummy she did measure twice (3 times actually) and the longest she got was 61.5 but the other nurse came in (I did ask if she wanted to measure too but she decined) and said use the first one. But the Dr really straightend R's legs out to full it was a bit of a fight too!!! but it is good to know that it is not as bad a first thought and now the Dr is aware of the short legs too so we can monitor it!
anyway I really need to stop procrastinating and go clean my floors!:gloomy:

[A'sMummy]

I know what you mean about having to really straighten bubs out when measuring. I have noticed when my MCHN measures Anya, sometimes Anya is a little more curled up than other times. That would often make a difference of a few cm's. I supposed you don't really think of it until something like this happens. So I think I will go with the meeting developemental milestones from now on more so than the measurements :yes:

[sweetseven]

A's Mummy she did measure twice (3 times actually) and the longest she got was 61.5 but the other nurse came in ...That makes me feel a bit better. My little one measured at 59.5 yesterday and I was wondering if that was a little small.

[zephani]

I know what you mean about having to really straighten bubs out when measuring. I have noticed when my MCHN measures Anya, sometimes Anya is a little more curled up than other times

DH has commented on this a number of times. The first time the MCHN visited us at home she measure Katherine with her toes pointed and then everyone since then has measured her with herr feet flat. If you don't measure the same how can you be assured of the actual growth?

[Seacretsquirrel]

The Dr also said to look at mum and Dad (we are both short too) so it is likely that our kids will be too. And to also remember how long they were at birth (Riley was 50.5 cm at birth so not huge there either)

[BoyCrazy]

Bub had her appointment with a renal specialist today due to having a single umbilical artery. He said that it is mainly gut or kidney problems that are associated with this variance. However her kidneys are obviously working, and she has no signs of gut problems. She's booked for a renal ultrasound and a followup appointment in six weeks, but he's expecting everything to be okay.



hey tiera,
jasper had a single umbillical artery too..he had his renal scan at about a week old and all was fine..did you find out during your pregnancy, or when your DD was born?

AFU- i took my little man off to the docs today as were all sick with colds..he is 8.53kgs and 70cm long!! following in his big brothers footsteps..hes very tall and lean.

and hes starting to pull his legs up in a effort to crawl now!!! so exciting!!

oh and were no longer sleeping thru, we have decided to go back to 4hrly feeds overnight..im sooooo sleep deprived atm..:sleeping:

[natski]

Hi girls :wave:

Well, with the Christening finally over, I'm hoping to make a post at least once a week now...well, we'll see how I go with that!!! Sorry, I haven't even read the June threads so have NO IDEA what happened a month ago with you all....

BM & OCM - Miss O is all over the place with her night sleeping too now (only after about 2 weeks of sleeping through) - I'm a bit exhausted and over it but just thinking that it could be because she's a little petite thing. No signs of teeth here yet, but I am going to start her on solids tonight - we're a week short of 6 months now so I think she's ready for it. I hope it gets better for you both...we're 4 hourly, 2 hourly and anything in between!!!

KJ - so sorry you're going through a rough time with Miss Z. I only hear updates from facebook, I hope you're both doing ok and that she gets better this week and you can get into Tresillian very soon. You poor loves :hugs:

SS - what a fright with R's length - something must have totally not been right with the first measurements (well, obviously).

Welcome 2boyoboys - I am a graphic designer too - although a SAHM now and freelancing from home.

AFU, well the christening was a huge success. SOOOO relieved that we changed the venue and didn't have it at home...I don't think I would have coped. It was so nice having the food done for you and not having to clean up after ourselves. We had it at a little place called 'The Secret Garden', a Balinese style cafe and had it under the thatched gazebo with lovely teak tables and curtains and beautiful atmosphere. The kids behaved beautifully all day and especially in the church, they were fantastic. Despite us waking up an hour late! The service was at 8.00am because the 9.30 service was booked out and we wanted that day as it was doable for my brother who is Godfather to come down from Byron. Anyway, the alarm was supposed to go off at 6 and after a very unsettled night with Olivia, we woke up with the biggest fright at 7am! Far out! What a panic! I dont think i've ever had all 4 of us ready in 45 minutes! Turned out to be a great day with that being the only drama.

Is anyone else BF and trying to lose weight? I feel so foul right now. I am bigger than I was when I was 37 weeks pg. I'm so self conscious right now. I tried to do ww, but still feel so hungry and haven't the motivation. Plus with Miss O being waking a few times during the night, I don't have the energy to get on the treadmill. I really need to do something. i guess it's only me who can help myself really!

Anyway, Big hugs to those of you who need it. sorry if i've left anyone out with the personals. :hugs: Have a great week everyone.

[Lateralus]

morning all...

BM :smiliedance: for Jasper trying to crawl. Zoe has done the bum up in the air trick a few times but usually goes hand-in-hand with a face plant... Hehe - looks so cute though!

Natski glad to hear the christening was a raging success! What a horrible feeling when you sleep in before something important like that - god work for getting the troops ready in record time! re: weight and appetite.. Since I have been on this new 'diet' for Zoe I have not felt hungry at all with little urge to snack between meals. I am eating lots of protein & some fats with each meal... Making sure to have a BIG breakfast usually eggs in some shape or form, plus smoked salmon & 1/2 an avocado OR left over dinner from the night before. Lunch is tuna and chicken sandwich or pasta or salad with extra oil added (flax seed or rice bran oil) and fruit and dinner is fish or chicken with veges. But BIG servings of the protein is the trick I think (in terms of stemming the munchies).

SS So glad Riley measured up fine in the end :sunshine:

AFU - another shocker last night - Zoe was awake from 4pm 'till midnight - cried from about 8pm onwards, but try as we might she just wouldn't go to sleep. I ended up sleeping on her floor 'till 4am as she was still unsettled. Then up at 7am for a feed :sleeping: Oh well - we are now re-booked into the sleep clinic for the week after next.. Fingers crossed it happens this time, but am not going to get my hopes up too much just in case.

I have decided that as we didn't make it to the clinic this week, I am not going to waste the week so am going to have a bit of pampering (that we can't really afford... but am going to raid the savings account then pay it back when I get my tax return). Sooo - bikini & eyebrow wax today plus eyelash tint, then a hair cut and foils on Friday. I am going to go rather short with my hair cut - shorter than I have gone before. Am a tad nervous, but I figure it'll grow back... And if it's hideous, at least it's cold and I can just wear a beanie :laughing:

[sweetseven]

BM Yes, we found out at her ultrasound, and had to go back for a second ultrasound a month later to check growth and development (which seemed normal).

Once she was born, the midwife said she would book a renal ultrasound with the hospital because of it. (No-one had previously mentioned anything would be necessary.) However it appears that a referral from the midwife wasn't good enough for the hospital so we ended up getting a GP referral at one month, then it just took time to come up.

I really wish I hadn't had that ultrasound, 'cause I'm a worrier, and even though it was only an indication of a slight increase in risk of abnormalities, it had me terrified throughout the rest of the pregnancy, especially since DP had just had a vasectomy. It felt like there would be something wrong to spite us, since he had taken that measure.

natski Well I'm breastfeeding and I should be trying to lose weight, but am not really. I'm eating a lot, and indulging on sweets, so that really isn't conducive to a good figure.

KJ Just wondering, would your desire for a short haircut stem from bub pulling your hair (especially during nappy changes)? I remember having that problem quite badly with some of my (now) older children.

[Purplebird]

SS - I'm glad Riley is OK. I've often thought that Cam's measurements can't possibly be very accurate as he is so squirmy when he's laying on the table being measured!

QC - so good to hear that you had a nice holiday. You've got me worrying a little about our flight back to the UK later in the year though! I think it could be a nightmare. Well, thank goodness for dummies at times like that - I honestly don't know how I would have kept my sanity if DD didn't have one! I love your description of T in his strong man suit - I think he would get on well with Cam!

Kate - enjoy your pampering. Thank goodness for having another date soon for the clinic too.

Natski - oh I hear you on the weight thing. I've given up now because I remember that I couldn't lose weight after having DD until I finished bfeeding. (Then I got pregnant a month later, lol). I'm just way too tired and non-functioning to do exercise or eat healthily.

Hi everyone else - brain has gone to mush now so I've forgotten everything else I wanted to say :)

Not much going on here. Cameron is still fat and lazy. He is desperate to get his hands on my food it seems. He starts breathing really quickly and puts his hands out to try and swipe things. Luckily he isn't quick enough yet!

[sweetseven]

DP was nice to me last night, and went out and bought me some lollies.

But ... I still have a sweet tooth today, so he is asking if we need to do a test.

I also noticed last night that my tummy seems a little bigger, but that isn't surprizing considering that I've been indulging in the eating department recently.

I'm still telling myself that they're just jumping to conclusions and I'm just reacting to their suspicions.

[Seacretsquirrel]

I always have a sweet tooth - infact I am off to have Caramel truffle Heavne in a minute!!!

I was talking to my mum about how we never thank the people in our lives for all the support etc they give so I just wanted to pop on here and say thanks for all you support with the measuring stuff and everything else over the past year - I know having all of you here on BH has made Pregnancy and the last 4 and a half months so much easier it is great to hop on here and get reasurance and support regardless of how trivial or serious the problem. So a big thanks to all of you lovely ladies:hugs:

anyhoo a pretty boring day here did a wee bit of grocery shopping and then went to a GF's for morningtea (and lunch) so Z had a ball playing with her 2 littleys (Her DS and Z are so cute we keep promising that we are going to marry them off - at least that way we get great inlaws!) and thn home for a quiet arvo - with Z running laps of the kitchen but at least (after a bit of stalling looking for care bears) she fell asleep fairly quickly once I got her in bed and R is asleep for the moment will see how long that lasts till he decides that a feed is in order!
I agree with the weight thing too but other than trying (emphasis on the trying) to be good I am not stressing till after I stop BF.
Kate hope you pampering goes great you so deserve it!
Kate and BM R does the feet scoot thing too he gets his bum waaaay up in the air and sort of pushes but doesn't have the arm strength yet to keep his arms up so he basically scrapes his head along the mat or cot it is rather funny. but it is amazing the amount of ground he covers in this way!
I can't remeber any other personals sorry but hope you are all doing great!
I am off to bed before R decides to wake up!

[quitecontrary]

SS you are right, it is great to have this bubhub support team! Come and tell your funny Z stories in the Dec thread!
Kate enjoy your pampering. I got a cut ancd colour a couple of weeks ago, hideously expensive but so worth it!!
PB I figure by the end of the year that the Terrible Twos will be almost over - we will be flying to the UK then too. We always have a stop-over which at least saves us our sanity to some extent. I think Cam and Toby would be great mates!
Well, I am back at ww, and although I had a gain this week afer the holiday I am going pretty well. On a huge points allowance due to my wieght and bf-ing. G and I were off to the gym this morning, I aI have to say I felt better for it. I'd had an UTI the last few days and alothough I wansn't really ill, I was just erggh. So am still on antibiotics but it must really be going away now.
We all went out for dinner in Chinatown which was a hoot, G is getting better company whilst out again, so that is good. T just slept in the ergo - as you do!
We are awaiting 26 boxes of dh's stuff from clearing his parents home to come through customs, he had stuff in their garage from his house, and then there's the bit and pieces from the sale of their home. Scary really, just as well we've got two sheds and a garage eh?

[Purplebird]

I was talking to my mum about how we never thank the people in our lives for all the support etc they give so I just wanted to pop on here and say thanks for all you support with the measuring stuff and everything else over the past year - I know having all of you here on BH has made Pregnancy and the last 4 and a half months so much easier it is great to hop on here and get reasurance and support regardless of how trivial or serious the problem. So a big thanks to all of you lovely ladies:hugs:

Ah that's lovely hun :hugs: I second what you have said. It is really nice to know you're not alone and it's also pretty special to have an online mum's group!

Well, I seem to have flu. I haven't been tested, but I have a temp over 39, plus aches, chills, chesty cough etc. Apparently they are treating most flu cases as swine flu here in Melbourne now as it has spread so quickly and 80% of cases are the swine flu strain. I'm not sure whether to bother going to the doctor, although I am asthmatic, so technically I should go. I'm just worried about poor Cam - he has had a horrible cold non-stop for nearly two weeks already. I so don't want him to get flu :(

[quitecontrary]

PB go to the Doc's will you - between your asthma and the kidlets you have to - you know that! Plus they'll give you tamiflu. I sound like my Mother, she was telling me the same thing just a couple of days ago, and that was only in case I got the flu!!

[sweetseven]

I went shopping yesterday, and bought quite a lot of treats. Last night, I had about a cup full of sunflower seeds and half a packet of lollies (Natural party mix), and that seems to have taken care of my sweet tooth.

I'm feeling much better (not so tired) today and even got amourous ths morning.

[floodprincess]

Good afternoon ladies!

:hugs: to those of you who are unwell and/or dealing with unwell little ones....so far we've avoided most illness :fingerscrossed: we can keep it that way!

Just a quick note for anyone that has me as a friend on facebook - my account was hacked into on Monday and facebook have yet to delete it. As a result, I've got no control over the content. Am hoping that FB kill the account asap but in the meantime, please delete 'me' from your friends list (I've also been asking friends to report the profile to facebook in the hopes that the more complaints they get the faster they'll remove - but it's up to you).

Hope the day goes well for everyone, I'm busy organisng all the paperwork and reviewing our processes after being at work till 0300 with the overnight tsunami warning.

take care and talk soon!!

[floodprincess]

Is it just me or has there been a general 'go slow' on all bub hub activity today?

I changed all my passwords and email addresses after falling victim to a hack (for anyone that has me as a friend on facebook - be aware that I no longer control it's content - the low life that hacked me got into that as well. Please feel free to delete me)....anyway, now when I come into bubhub I only show 4 new posts....???

:( it feels as though I'm loosing my mind, you don't realise just how much you depend on technology until something major stuffs up!!

:hugs: to those dealing with illness, I hope you all feel better soon! will do personals once I've gotten my head in order (still exhausted after working til 0300 with the tsunami warning)

[zephani]

PB Please go to the Dr, even as a precautionary measure. And let us know how you go.

SS I'm glad everything worked out with Riley. What a fright though! I agree with your comment about support. It's been great having all you guys here, especially being a first time Mum. I feel very comforted knowing that our babies are going through the same things around the same time and that I am not alone.

AFU We've been back to the Dr with Katherine who has confirmed that she has conjunctivitist. More saline and more drops.

Although last night she slept 12 hours straight :yelclap: Pity I didn't :no: I kept waking up thinking that I could hear her cry for a bottle.

I have question: I have three tins of the old Karicare HA (unopened) that I am no longer using. We bought them on special when the old HA was being discontinued. We have now moved Katherine onto the Bellamy's Organic formula.

I posted in the bottle feeding, central coast and hunter threads to see if anyone wanted to swap them with me, but I didn't get any replies. Can anyone suggest where I might donate them to?

My other question: I'm thinking about introducing Katherine to peas, beans and maybe corn. Can you second time Mum's advise me as to whether this is a good idea? Is it ok to use frozen vegies instead of fresh?

[zephani]

Bah! I just typed a post and it has disappeared into cyberspace. If it happens to reappear forgive me for the doubt post.

PB Please go to the Dr's, even if it is a precautionary measure. You need to look after you. Please let us know how you go.

SS I'm glad things turned out well for Riley. What a fright! I agree with your thankful sentiments. It has been a godsend having you guys here for support. Especially being a first time Mum. Knowing that our babies are going through the same things at roughly the same time is very comforting. It's great knowing that I'm not alone.

AFU It was back to the Dr's with Katherine yesterday. Her sore eye has developed into conjunctivitis, meaning more saline and more eye drops.

She did manage to sleep all night, twelve hours straight last night. I didn't though. I kept waking up thinking that I heard her crying for a feed.

I've come down with an allergy or something in the last hour. My head feels like it is going to explode, my eye is watery and my nose is blocked. I want to crawl into my nice warm bed and not get up.

I have two questions to ask:

1. I have three tins of the old Karicare HA (unopened) that I am no longer using. We bought them on special when the old HA was being discontinued. We have now moved DD onto the Bellamy's Organic formula. I posted in the bottle feeding, Hunter and Central Coast threads to see if anyone wanted to swap with me, but I got no replies. Can anyone suggest where I could donate them to?

2. I'm thinking of starting Katherine on peas, beans and corn. Can one of you second time Mum's advise me as to whether this is appropriate? Should I use frozen vegies? Or should I shell fresh peas and beans?

[Seacretsquirrel]

PB go to the Doc's will you - between your asthma and the kidlets you have to - you know that! Plus they'll give you tamiflu. I sound like my Mother, she was telling me the same thing just a couple of days ago, and that was only in case I got the flu!!
:iagree:at least they might give you something to help you feel better!

Hope you are all having a great day I am having a pretty good one! about to do Z's tea and R is having his witching hour nap (it is so good no to have him screaming the place down while I try to organise Z for dinner/ bath/ bed!!! I jsut have to deal with the cranks later on but it is worth it!

[parentingrocks]

Hi all.

been keeping sort of upto date over the last dy or two but have a terribly fuzzy memory and cant think straight to do personals.

AFU, we had a lovely day, mum came over and helped me clean up a bit cos the house was a mess and she took charli out to do my groceries for me while I kept cleaning here which was nice! I got a little break and had an hour to myself to fold washing and sterile bottles... ah such is life!haha.
Then Charli and I spent the whole afternoon and evening with her new little cousin - 5 days old today!!!! he is sooooooooooo adorable I am soooooooooooooo in love with him. He was beautiful - I got to change his nappy (how quickly you forget how little a newborn is!!) and put him to sleep. Then me and his mum (my SIL) hung out all day eating those GLORIOUS bakers delight white choc and berry muffin and drinking decaf coffee, was so much fun! And it was her husbands (my BIL's) 30th too! So we had dinner and a cheers to his milestone birthday too.. all while little Xavier slept in his rocker. Such a great day!!!
My DP is away for work tonight, so Charli and I just ahd a shower and a feed and for some freak reason she went down without a peep and is sound asleep in her cot, man thats nice when things go smoothly when your on your own!
Well I might go enjoy this silence while I have it.. off to have a last cuppa and watch some tv. Night all :sleeping:

[sweetseven]

DD4 had tomato and beans as the main bulk of her baby food when she was little. I always used fresh (raw) but exect that frozen would be good. (Experts say that frozen veges often have more nutrients than fresh.)

[Seacretsquirrel]

I often used frozen veges - I found those little steam fresh vege pouches were great if I had to go over to a friends house and hadn't pureed the veges yet I'd just throw them in the microwave and mash them as we went and then when she was a bit bigger she'd jsut eat them as is - not that she'll have a bar of them now though!

I just had a GF come over for a pancake breaky with her 2 kids it was so lovely and then we walked to the park and kids had a play we have decided that breakfast (not nec pancakes all the time) works quite well as we can get the little ones home for a sleep and not stuff the routines too much plus the older 2 are chirpy in the morning which makes a play date nicer!

anyway nothig really to say today so I'll shut up now:ecomcity:
:wave:

[gizmoduckus]

Hi everyone! I am so glad that BH seems to be up and running again. Now to try and catch up with everything. I am so far behind....

One CheekyMonkey - I hope things have gotten better for you. :hugs:
KateJo - You poor thing. I can't believe that Zoe got sick just when you booked in to sleep clinic. I hope that she sleeps better until you can get in there again.
Seacretsquirrel - It is great thing we have here. I am also very grateful for all the support I have gotten especially at the beginning when I didn't know what was wrong with Liam. It has been great having all of you to vent to.
Purplebird - I hope you are feeling better
Zephani - I have no idea what you can do with the formula. I actually have a spare tin of Nan myself that I don't know what to do with since Liam has gone on prescription formula.
floodprincess - What a pain about your Facebook. I have just gone to delete your account. Is that why you had that really weird status update yesterday? Let me know when you are back on so I can add you again.

Also is there anyone else on FB that I haven't added yet? I would love to add you if you would like just let me know...

I often used frozen veges - I found those little steam fresh vege pouches were great if I had to go over to a friends house

I just had a GF come over for a pancake breaky They are both really great ideas :thumbsup:

AFM I am proud to say that my sister had a little boy on Monday night. He is extremely cute. You would never believe it Solsen but they also named him Xavier. :D

Well I hope you all have a great day. :)

[zephani]

Also is there anyone else on FB that I haven't added yet? I would love to add you if you would like just let me know.

I'm on Facebook if anyone would like to add me. I'll PM you my email address Gizmo.

[quitecontrary]

FP did what you said about FB and your account - keep us posted please!!

Well, yesterday I took T in to the baby health clinic to the drop-in, really just wanted a weigh and measure, and yes, he is growing!! Had a chat to the Sister about cutting out the midnight to dawn moveable buffet service - and was told to do as I wish, and cold turkey would be it. So, I decided to give T a dream feed before I went to bed (did them with G all the time) then Dh was on for the call outs - so Toby started chattering away at about 2 am and when that developed into a grumble dh did the dummy, and then at 4 T grumbled up again so dh was up again - and that was that til G came and joined us after 6.30 this morning! So it worked well, I was much less disturbed than having to get up and feed him (even though I was feeding him in bed with us). I think he'll realise its not worth making too much of a fuss now the Midnight to Dawn buffet has been closed.
Yay for making the decision!!
He is calling out now though, so must away!

[Lateralus]

PB hope you're feeling better & that you made it to the docs to get yourself checked out... You can't be too careful with the flu when you're asthmatic!

giz why did Liam get started on the prescription formula - did you have to get this through a dietician or through your GP? I am thinking I would like to introduce a little bit of formula (this 2 hourly feeding overnight is getting too ridiculous), but because Zoe is dairy, soy & goats milk intolerant it limits our choices a bit as far as commercially available formulas go.

FP what a poop your accounts have been hacked... Hope you get it all sorted and secure soon! Keep us posted when you have a new FB account so we can re-add you :goodvibes:

Solsen sounds like a divine day that you had with your little nephew. Hehe - if I didn't know better, I would say you are sounding a little clucky ;)

AFU DH was booked to go to Jakarta for work tomorrow, but THANKFULLY the job has been cancelled. I wouldn't fancy the thought of him going over there with bombs being detonated. Not with the luck we have had lately :rolleyes:

I got all my hair chopped off today - very, very different. And will take a bit of getting used to... But I am glad I did it. :laughing: DH was reassuring.. He said "I love it. It looks like a pineapple".... Just the look I was going for :laughing:

[gizmoduckus]

KateJo, Liam has a milk protein intolerance so he can't have any milk either. He is on Neocate which has to prescribed by a paedatrician. This is because it is extremely expensive so it is very highly regulated. You can buy it at the chemist without a script for $125 a tin :eek:. With a script it is a whole lot cheaper. I think we pay around $35 for 8 tins. It is a HUGE difference.

Maybe you should have a chat to your GP about it because they will have to give you a referal to a paed if that is the route that you wish to take.

BTW you need to put up some photos of yourself on FB so that we can check out your new haircut!

[Seacretsquirrel]

Hey I am on FB too PM me if you want to be my friend!:D

[zephani]

SS I love the idea of the vege steam pouches! Especially when visiting other people.

Gizmo and SS I've added you both to FB! Yay! Everyone else PM me your details and I'll add you too!

Gizmo I took my formula back to Coles to see if there was anything I could do. I wasn't hopeful as the line had been discontinued. But they swapped the two tins and all I had to do was pay the $10 difference in price and now I have two tins of Bellamy's! Yay!!

Maybe you could take it back saying that your son is now on prescription formula. It wouldn't hurt. What's the worst they could do? Say no?

[A'sMummy]

Hi Ladies, Hope you're all well!
I am too tired to remember what everyone has been up to, but I have been trying to keep up all week. I had an extra busy week with work and you would think I could have a restful weekend, but no, we have hired a dingo digger and have 3 mini skips out the front waiting to be filled with all the rubbish/junk we have accumlated in the house. So Dh will be on the dingo all weekend, leveling out back yard a bit and also digging up the nature strip so we can put crushed rock down and I will be carting junk out to the skips... oh what fun!
It is a mad dash to get our house looking somewhat respectable before we have 80 people over for Anyas naming ceremony on the 2nd of August. Silly me should have booked elsewhere!!
Anyway, hopefully I get a little free time to pop in over the weekend and see how all you lovely ladies are going :hugs:
I am also on facebook so please feel free to add me :D PM me for my email addy.
Gotta love you all and leave you, so much to do xoxo

[Purplebird]

Thanks for the well wishes lovelies. I did go to the doctors this evening as I needed a script for my inhalers. the doctor was quite nonchalant and I had to ask if I have flu. He just said 'quite probably', so that was very unhelpful! Anyway, I have a chest infection so I'm on antibiotics plus my usual array of inhalers. They didn't mention testing me, or giving me tamiflu, maybe because I am much better now anyway, plus I don't need to get back to work or anything (just look after 2 kids :rolleyes:).

DD has been absolutely feral today. It is the absolute worst day I have ever had with her. I had to restrain myself from smacking her :( She has been hitting me and Cameron, throwing things, screaming, banging things etc etc.

Giz and Zeph(and anyone else!!) - feel free to add me to facebook. I am Hannah (just look at the bubhub group names) :).

Congrats on becoming an auntie Giz :goodvibes:

FP - terrible about your FB account being hacked. Thanks for getting your mum to send a message. I thought your update was odd, but something that you had misspelt.

QC - yay for closing the all night breastaurant! It just goes to show how 'untraumatic' (is that a word?!) these things can be once we have made a decision. I am a bit chicken and will probably do the same closer to 6 months as it worked for DD then (oh, plus I can't get C to take a dummy - grrr!). Enjoy the extra sleep!

A'smummy - good luck with your garden and house sorting this weekend. It sounds very full-on!

Have a wonderful weekend ladies. I'm sort of waiting around for my children, and maybe DH, to get sick. The doc said it was 'extremely likely' that Cam at least would get sick. I have Panadol and Nurofen ready to alternate in case of high temps. I have Baby Balsam. I have a Vaporiser and I have a little stash of Dimetapp if we get desperate. I think I'm ready!

[quitecontrary]

PB I feel your pain when it comes to the Devil-Child - she was here on Tuesday but normality returned. It is so awful when they're like that - I do wonder what is going through G's head sometimes to make her want to act that way. Glad to hear you went to the Dr and relatively speaking all is well.
AM hope the weekend isn't too exhausting - sounds pretty full-on though!
I am so pleased I've stopped the all-night-breastaurant. T is such a pud that I don't think he's really going to miss it. Shall see how we go tonight!

[floodprincess]

Woohoo......after a harrowing 5 days Facebook have FINALLY given me my account back!!!..

Same name, it's all the same, except I've beefed up the security on EVERYTHING to prevent another hack attack....now just have to repair broken trusts and see if I can get my 'lost' friends back...

Will PM you all later to see if we can get back together on Facebook....right now, Monique is after some solids for breakfast!

Have a great day ladies, hope you are all finding ways to overcome or at least manage (for the time being) your challenges...
:hugs: to those still feeing under the weather....

[Seacretsquirrel]

Morning Ladies

After hearing about you closing the all night breastaurant QC I have decided to do the same I'd been thinking about it but wasn't sure if he was too young. But no chance of R fading away anytime soon so starting last night he had his last feed at 10-30 just before I went to bed - he has sort of been waking for it anyway! and then when he woke at 3-30 am instead of a feed he got his dummy, a quick pat and covered back up - he went back to sleep really fast and I went back myself but layawake for a while listening for him to wake up again but he didn't until 5-30 which is not to bad so I gave him a feed and he had a good one which was great as I was rather full:D and he is still asleep now at 8-15 hopefully not haiving the night feeds might mean he'll have better day feeds cause I am struggling to get him to have decent feeds during the day as he is so nosey and interested in what everyone else is doing as soon as he hears Z's voice he is looking around and grinning at her which pretty much ends the feed which I think is why he was having all the night feeds (he cluster feeds from about 4-30 till 8-30 and wakes again at 10-30ish then it was again at around midnight and then 3 and 5 so it was getting rediculous!) oh well well see how he goes!
Poor Z has a monster bruise on her forehead as a result of 3 falls in 2 days that involved her smaking her head on the floor - twice in the house and then yesterday she stacked it on the way to the park with a friend and has added a graze and more burising to her forhead and cheek poor wee monkey looks like she has been beaten!:o

I better go see what the munchkins are up too
hope you are all doing well :hugs: to those of you who are feeing unwell or who have crook kids and good luck to those of you with big weekends planned!

[parentingrocks]

gee its quiet in here today!!! where are you all??

Charli and I went to my mums place and my sisters place today and caught up with them.. also bought some bathers for Charli and a proper swimming re-useable nappy so we can take her to the pools tomorrow for a swim. I hope she likes it! It is a salt water heated pool so I'm hoping she enjoys it. Luckily the gym my DP and I go to said we can tale her there on Sat and Sun's no charge to just have a dip.

Anyway I have made morroccan lamb and chick pea slow cooker thing today - going to steam some green veg and make some cous cous tohave with it so I can sit down and have it for dinner in a minnie.

Hope you are all having a good weekend.

xxx

[zephani]

Another question for my wonderful Feb 09 thread Mummies :hugs:

I don't like feeding Katherine jarred baby food and are enjoying making her food for her. My question is: what do you carry the food in when you go out for the day? Or when you go away overnight?

We went out for lunch today and I ended up taking a jar of baby food instead of my homemade stuff because I didn't know how to carry it. I have little leakproof containers to put food in but I didn't know whether I needed to put it in a little cooler bag or insulated bag to keep it cool so it wouldn't go off. The problem is that a cooler bag seems to big to hold a little container of food and too big for my nappy bag.

We are going away overnight next weekend and I want to take my own food with me but again I don't know how to store it.

I'm starting to think that the jarred baby food doesn't 'fill' Katherine up. She started screaming for her dinner at about 5:20pm although dinner is not till 6pm.

[janiceg]

Another question for my wonderful Feb 09 thread Mummies :hugs:

I don't like feeding Katherine jarred baby food and are enjoying making her food for her. My question is: what do you carry the food in when you go out for the day? Or when you go away overnight?


we use a "fridge to go"
bought it at the baby expo and it's fantastic! keeps things cold for 12hrs for me (although it says up to 8 so i was happily surprised!

finally booked our flights to canada in september..it's a total of about 30hrs travelling and one flight is 19hrs non stop!!! i'm so nervous!
anyone flown this long or have any tips?

hope everyone's having a wonderful weekend:hugs:

[gizmoduckus]

My question is: what do you carry the food in when you go out for the day? Or when you go away overnight?
We have always used jar food when travelling out and about but if that isn't working with Katherine you could always just bring along avocadoes and bananas and then just mash them up when you need them.



finally booked our flights to canada in september..it's a total of about 30hrs travelling and one flight is 19hrs non stop!!! i'm so nervous!
anyone flown this long or have any tips?

We went to America, England, Portugal and Singapore when DS1 was 10 months old. We found it fairly easy because he wasn't walking yet which is a huge advantage. Make sure that you book the seats with the bassinet, it makes it so much easier. It is always best if you give them a bottle or a dummy at take-off's and landings because the sucking stablises their ears. We also wrapped a few of his toys in wrapping paper so that it kept him occupied for a bit longer while he tried to rip the paper. We also brought along a portable DVD player to play the Wiggles on. At that age we couldn't put headphones on him to watch the TV screens on the plane. Hope that helps. If you are after any more tips then just let me know.

[sweetseven]

My question is: what do you carry the food in when you go out for the day? Or when you go away overnight?

We went out for lunch today and I ended up taking a jar of baby food instead of my homemade stuff because I didn't know how to carry it. Wash out and refill the jar.
Another option is to reuse small jars from small vegemite, or condiment-sized jam jars.
Or clipit containers by Sistema (can be purchased from the supermarket) are watertight in my experience.

Of couse homemade doesn't contain preservatives and therefore wont last very long.

[zephani]

Of couse homemade doesn't contain preservatives and therefore wont last very long.

That's my issue. I have individual containers that I carry the food in. Now I want something to put them in to last longer. Like the 'Fridge to Go' that janiceg suggested.

[Seacretsquirrel]

I used to freeze Z's stuff so it was okay in a little bag until we got to places it was usually thawed out but we did have a few occasions where it wasn't and we had to sit it in boiling water for a while to thaw out.

I also have a little freezer bag thing that came with the portable booster/highchair thingo (Safety first brand I think) I jsut throw a couple of those tiny ice brick in it and Z's food and drinks that need to be kept cold. For a cheaper option what about those insulated bottle bags with a freezy brick in it - you can get tiny round bricks in some supermarkets (or in some lunch box kits) or if it is cool and will only be out for a little while a stubby cooler will keep it a bit cooler than nothing at all.

[Lateralus]

hi all - just a quicky tonight. Miss Z is 5 months old today and she decided to celebrate this milestone by rolling over.. She has been rolling from stomach to back for about 6 weeks already, but now she is going from back to stomach and there's no stopping her... Hopefully this will burn up a bit of extra energy and help her to sleep better :fingerscrossed:

Also - we decided to try her with a bit of rice cereal mixed with EBM this morning and she loved it... Got the hang of the whole "open mouth for spoon" thing pretty quickly too! :smiliedance:

[OneCheekyMonkey]

THankgoodness D has started sleeping better, still doing a 11ish feed and a 4 ish feed but preferable to feeding every 90-120 mins.

His third tooth popped through and his fourth is pretty close !

He can also sit up by himself for a few mins :)

He isn't rolling though, I wonder when I should start to worry? I know my CHN suggested it was because he is such a big baby (9.5kg the other week) with such a big chest.... I know I shouldn't compare either but it is hard not to.

His size 1s are getting snug in the crotch. :( Well not all brands but definately Kmart and Target 1s. :( Wah his wardrobe is costing a fortuna

Anywya thats it from us, hope everyone else is well. sorry I rarely update here anymore I tend to hover around fb instead :D

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

hiya all!!

just a quick one as Eli is insistent that she can "help" me type and DH is still asleep so i can't hand her over yet.:p

zeph I've gone with the taking avocados and bananas (and soft pears or watermelon) along with me and mashing as i go - plus that gives her a different feed to warm pumpkin or sweet potato. last night she was given a hunk of bread (at a party where someone else was holding her) and she munched on that for a good while. Not really sure if she swallowed any but it had her going for a good 20 minutes. Does anyone know if thats going to hurt her? i can't remember when you can start introducing breads and the like :no:

alrighty i'm off
chat to you all soon

p.s. i'm on FB too so PM me if you wnat me to add you:yelclap:

[zephani]

OCM Our children sound very similar, in size and development, except Katherine doesn't have teeth yet. Katherine isn't rolling over yet either. She can do it if she is lying on my tummy, but isn't doing it on her own. Although in the last few days she has been able to get her arms out by herself if I roll her over. And when she is on her play mat she will move herself around like a clock hand. So I guess that is a start.

She is finding it very frustrating that she can't sit up yet. She lifts her head and legs up to at least a 45 degree angle, digs her arms into the ground and goes really red in the face. After two or three minutes she gives up, flops back on the ground and growls at herself.

The lady who runs Katherine's GymbaROO session said that she will probably roll and sit around the same time as she will use a rolling motion to sit. She said not to be worried till around 7 or 8 months.

AFU Katherine went to bed early last night as she was over tired and grumpy. Went down at 6:30pm without her bed time bottle. I dream fed her around 10pm. She slept through till 5 am, feed and then got up around 8 am.

I've add so many BH friends on FB over the last few days! It's been great seeing pictures of you and your children.

[floodprincess]

Morning Everyone (although it's almost afternoon now & I've only just gotten up)

Glad to see everyone is feeling a little chirpier today, hopefully that means we are all feeling better!!

Zeph... we have a range of small plastic containers from both Tupperware and a great little set from Aldi ($4.99 for a set of 12 different sized conts which are all Microwavable) so when we start travelling when needing food they'll fit in any bag.

Generally when we did this with DD1, we either took the food from home frozen and re-heated it; but in the colder winter months, we just popped it into the chiller compartment things in our nappy bag.

And in summer if we were out dinner consisted mainly of finger food fruits or by then she was 10 months old, she was eating exactly what we were!

GBAG8M - I don't htink bread will hurt Eli, unless you suspect milk allergies? I'm giving Monique teething rusks and bread crusts to chew on which she's loving (although I hate getting the mushy bread bits out of her hair after lol)

AFU we still have NO signs of rolling, aside from twisting her head and upper body around and up to look at something :confused: the CHN said it was nothing to worry about and it will come in time, as long as she's got the right idea about tummy time (which thankfully she does but not for long)....I don't know...maybe the weakness with her R arm has created a small sort of gross motor development delay in these areas? No matter will book an appt with the paed and ask him.

But we're going well in the smiles, talking and reaching for things depts :yelclap: and I actually got 1 tiny giggle from her the other night :smiliedance: (mind you she hasn't repeated the act for me :rolleyes:)

I've come to a dilemma with her solids....I've tried her on the easy soft veges (potato, pumpkin, sweet potato and carrot) but without a food processor , working blender or mouli, I'm at a loss as to what to try her on next?? I'm think I might introduce some soft fruits for her to have during the day and maybe help her settle in the afternoons better?? What do you girls think?

Anyway, I'm off to continue to re-coup my FB life :) I had a few of you on my list prior to the hack, and thankfully I kept a copy of that list, so I'll request another add - when you get it, rest assured it is me (now with added security) and I'll PM those of you who I don't have over the next few days!!

Take is easy ladies, my song is being sung after DD2s 3 1/2 hr nap :eek:

[zephani]

I've come to a dilemma with her solids....I've tried her on the easy soft veges (potato, pumpkin, sweet potato and carrot) but without a food processor , working blender or mouli, I'm at a loss as to what to try her on next?? I'm think I might introduce some soft fruits for her to have during the day and maybe help her settle in the afternoons better?? What do you girls think?

I don't puree any of Katherine's foods. I just mash them with a potato masher. Other than the foods you have mentioned she has had broccoli, cauliflower, avocado, apple, banana and pear. The avocado and banana don't need to be cooked to eat just mashed with a fork. If the banana is too hard I heat it for 20 seconds and then mash it.

[quitecontrary]

Hi - just caught up on the last couple of days here.
We've had a busy weekend - around the neighbourhood yesterday on foot, visiting my little sis and niece etc, pushing the kids in the P&T up some lovely hills, and today we had an impromptu day out as we had a flat battery and the NRMA said to go for a drive. We had lunch down in the Royal National Park and it was just gorgeous down there.
Toby is going just fine without his midnight to dawn buffet service, dh had to re-wrap him last night as he'd gotten out and slidden (is that a word??) himself up the cot, but there were no complaints! He is having a great big feed when he does wake up, which must be good for him, and the dream feed is a good one too. Much better to have full boobs I think. I am also trying to get him to go longer during the day - which works sometimes!
SS glad you've been inspired to do the same re: closing the all night service. I was telling dh what Z used to do with R's cot - I'm glad G hasn't tried moving the furniture!

[Seacretsquirrel]

QC Riley is a total wriggler! he is all over the cot all day and nightI gave up trying to stop it and just cover him back up wherever he is. Closing the buffet worked the night before last had a feed at 10.30 and then nothing till 5am (woke around 3.30 and popped the dummy in) but last night he didn't wake for his 10.30 feed and I went to bed early (ish) and didn't wake up till Z had a freak out around 12.30 - I though about feeding him then but he was so peaceful and I didn't want to wake him so I left it go till he woke which was at 4 am (an hour after DH rang rather merry form Mackay) so what would have been a pretty good sleep if I only had R to worry about ended up a rotton night thanks to everyone else!
Fingers crossed for a better night tonight - Although he has a slight temp (37.4) so it might be a bit off will see how we go.

anyhoo R has just started grumbling so I might go give him a nice uninterupted top up before heading to bed!:sleeping:
good :sleeping: vibes to you all!:thumbsup:

[sweetseven]

Well, I did the POAS today and got a very definite :bfn:, so it looks like they were just busy mum symptoms after all. And it really seems that sunflower seeds have been improving matters, so I guess I should buy some more. (I've finished my packet of them.)

My father rang and disrupted bub going to sleep this evening, so she now has no intention of sleep for quite some time.

[quitecontrary]

tiera pleased to hear that all is well - and you are indeed just a very busy mum!
SS - lord, I suppose a drunk-dialling hubby is okay, though I'm sure you didn't really appreciate the call at the time. I hope things went well last night with you and the littlies.
I think we are going to dig out the gro-bags for Toby - dh wrapped him again at 3 this morning. Its just too cold here to leave T out in the cold just in his wondersuit. Though I don't really feel like the gro-bags are warm enough either, though they must be.
Dh is back in bed - perhaps having to actually get up 3 nights in a row has gotten to him, though he manages to go back to sleep straight away.

[zephani]

janiceg Thanks for your suggestion of the fridge to go system. Yesterday afternoon I ordered the coolzie (stubby size) one for my nappy bag. I sent the manufacturer an email asking how long it would take to get here as we are going away on Saturday. I was surprised when she emailed me at 10:30pm last night to say that she would make sure the item was sent today. I was so pleased that I emailed her back and asked her to include the small lunchbox (for overnight and weekend travelling) as well. She rang me at 8:30am this morning to confirm my credit card details for my extra order and to tell me she was on the way to the post office. Talk about service!

AFU We think Katherine is starting to teethe. She has been very grumpy for the last two days and DH thinks he can see a white bit coming through. What do you guys use to relieve teething pain? What do you think about the use of bonjela teething gel? I've read other threads say that bonjela has problems?

Two nights ago she went to bed at 6:30pm because she was grumpy and hadn't had a sleep all day. I dreamfed her at 10:30pm and she slept till 5am and slept again till 8am.

Last night she had a bottle at 5pm, dinner at 5:30pm and was in bed by 6pm. Again because she was grumpy and hadn't had a sleep all day. I decided not to give her the dreamfeed as I don't want her to rely on it. She slept through till 4am and then again till 8am. So she went 11 hours without a feed.

What do others think about that? Am I doing the wrong thing not giving her the dreamfeed? She has four 200ml bottles a day and three (two tablespoon) solid feeds. She has a 4am bottle, 8am bottle and 8:30am solids, 12 - 1pm solids and a bottle 30 mins later, sometimes she has a bottle at 5pm and dinner at 6pm, the other times she has dinner at 6pm and a bottle at 7pm. Is that enough? I know it sounds like a lot, but she started solids at 3.5months and is currently 73cm and 9kgs. Do I need to give her the dreamfeed?

[floodprincess]

Zeph

I read on a poster recently (at one baby related thing or another) that bubs around this age should take roughly 700 - 900mls of milk per day. By my calcs, Katherine is getting around 800mls, so if you both are comfortable dropping the night feed I wouldn't worry too much about it! If it does make a difference, I'm sure you'll soon realise it.

AFU I've been wondering the same thing about Monique....and because I'm at work, I can't see how much milk she takes during the day. I leave 3 or 4 200ml bottles in the fridge and most days they're pretty well gone by the time I get home and I know she's having at least 2 good breast feeds.

The other thing I wonder about it, is does that daily milk figure include the milk you mix into solids?? I mix a little bit of formula into all Monique's solids at the moment.....

I dunno....she's reasonably happy (bit grumpy today because I think, like most other bubs, she's beginning to teethe) and she's still gaining weight.

[zephani]

FP I include the milk I mix into solids as part of her daily milk figure. Usually she drinks about 160ml at her 8am feed and then I use the other 40ml in her cereal and fruit. I don't mix formula into her other solids. I just mash them all together.

I'm on FB as well so PM me your details so I can add you.

[OneCheekyMonkey]

Zeph - For teething I use panadol, teething toys and a dummy. D likes bonjela so much that he licks it off and screams for more so I quickly abandoned that ! Unfortunately he doesn't really have the coordination to hold a teething toy in for long so it means I get to sit next to him and hold the rubber thing in his mouth for ages.

D loves chewing on the side of his dummy, I use the Natural Soother ones which are completely soft and rubbery. He chews on the disc bit.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Morning lovely Feb mummies!!!

Well Riley had another pretty good night slept from 10pm till 4 am had a feed and went till around 8am so I am happy with that!
I think Riely is teething too I use a little bit of bonjella if he is really chomping on stuff - woke to Z playing with the tube this morning so I have to remember to put it higher up!:yes: (I think the main issues with the bonjella were with the adult ulcer stuff not the teething gel for bubs - although I think it has alcohol in it I tried one of the other brands with Z with no alcohol in it Sj233 or some ling like that but she didn't like it as much) I also give panadol - mainly at night if he won't settle and he chomps on his hands and anything else he can get to his mouth - he has a fabric triangle thing with rubber corners that works well he can manage that so I don't have to hold stuff for him to chew - but most of the time it is jsut his fists or fingers (his, mine Zahlias it doesn't worry him) Zahlia also had these tiny spot books (little board books) that came in a pack of 5 or so which she chewed the heck out of - they have a whole range of different ones now and I just got the Cars one for Riley they are the perfect size for tiny hands as they are only abotu 10-15 cm square (Target has them for $8.95 and had a heap of different ones includign spot, cars, night garden, angelina ballerina and others):thumbsup:
anyway I better go we are having an early lunch so that Z has a sleep and soo can I hopefully - still feeling rotten so the nap is a must today.:sleeping:

[A'sMummy]

Hi Ladies, sounds like everyone is plodding along fairly smoothly which is good to hear.
Lots of teething babies by the sounds of things!!
Anya has cut her first tooth, it is a top fang (eye tooth sp??) I think, or could even be the one behind the fang. To my surprise it is VERY far back in her mouth. I would have though she would cut the front ones first?? :confused:
I have used the brauers teething liquid and haven't needed panadol or neurofen as yet :fingerscrossed: She seems to be coping fairly well, but just wants to munch on everything in sight!
She also rolled (deliberately) for the first time last Thursday. I might have already mentioned that though, I can't remember LOL! She rolls from her back to her front much better than front to back.

[quitecontrary]

A'sMummy G cut her fangs first too, it looked really funny! It also coincided with the last time she sucked on her fingers - which she was practically born doing! Seeings her first tooth came closer to 6 months I think T is still a way off, but he is one of the youngest here!

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

someone came in a replaced my unpredictable day sleeper with an angel today :yelclap:

she was awake for between 1.5 to 2 hours and then went off to sleep without a fuss for all 3 F-P-S cycles today :smiliedance: and slept for 1-1.5 hours each time. I'm sooo proud of her, she's been smiling and chattering away to me all day, i swear she's trying to say Hello! she's also sitting unassissted (until she gets distracted by a toy and leans over to get it, when she topples over) and rolling all over the place :cloud9:

just thought i'd share that here- no-one IRL would understand quite why this makes me so happy lol!

oh and we've used the Brauer's teething liquid too and it's worked wonders, Elianna has 2 teeth fully out and one more breaking through as we speak and its all been fairly untraumatic.- She also LOVES the baby bonjella (once i discovered that there was a baby one for 4 months plus as i'd been steering clear of standard bonjella)- leans forward when i get eh blue tube out and if i'm not quick she sucks it off my finger before i can rub it into her gum :laughing:

[zephani]

I've heard good things about the Brauer's Teething Liquid. Has anyone used Hyland's Teething Tablets? They are highly recommended in the teething thread.

Katherine had another grizzley day, although she managed to have one sleep. She had a bottle at 4pm, dinner at 5:45pm, finished her bottle at 6:30pm and was in bed by 7pm. I've decided to stop the dreamfeeds and let her wake to tell me she's thirsty.

Previously I asked a question about peas and corn but now I tossing up between that and introducing peaches next. If I decide peaches, are canned peaches alright? If I get them in natural juice? Or would I be better with fresh peaches? If I use canned peaches do I just mash them and give them to her? Do I need to cook them?

Also at what age do I start introducing meat? There's not really any fruits and vegies that Katherine hasn't had yet.

[janiceg]

zephani, i would use the fresh peaches and you would have to cook those..the canned ones should be fine just mushed up!
i'm gunna start meats around 7 or 8 months. we're still exploring our fruits and veggies...green beans tomorrow! she's crazy for strawberries and yells every time she sees one she gets so excited!!! she's a good little eater! we'll do some yoghurts at 6 months and start introducing some new grains.

gonnabeaGR8mum:yelclap:on the great sleeping today-hope it lasts

:hugs:to all those of you dealing with teething! dd has a teething necklace and we have the brauer teething relief on standby but still no teeth yet!

katejo-hope you're learning lots at the sleep school!

thanks for the tips on flying..i'm pretty nervous about it! but i'm trying to stay positive.
we have a friend visiting with her son for the week tomorrow..i've never met her son so but i've heard he's a terror!
gotta go workout and off to bed!

[Lateralus]

Hi All...

Janice - we're not off to sleep school 'till next week... Our admission was delayed because Zoe had a cold!

GBAGM :smiliedance: Awesome news that E has had a great day! I know how exciting it is when they do sleep well and are happy as a result.. :D

AFU We're still very unsettled overnight here and just hanging out for sleep school. The fact that DH & I have to take turns sleeping on Zoe's floor is wearing pretty thin. She is so unsettled 'till about 2 am that one of us has to be in there to resettle her before she gets too worked up. And she just won't sleep at all in our bed. She is just too easily stimulated and unless she is in her cot facing a very boring wall she just won't sleep. Ah well - we'll get there I am sure. If all else fails (ie sleep school doesn't work) I guess we'll just have to wait for her to grow out of it.

I think that if she is not more settled after sleep school I will take her down to Sydney for a few weeks & stay with my parents.. Give us a bit of a break with a few extra sets of hands to comfort her.

We are still pushing on with the rice cereal mixed with EBM. She seems to enjoy it but only eats a teaspoon full before she has had enough. Is this pretty normal when they first start?

[quitecontrary]

GBAGM Toby says hello too - isn't it funny? Glad you had a good day with Miss E!
Kate my dear, I am sure sleep school will turn your life around. I am pleased to hear you do have a Plan B just in case - it sounds like Miss Z runs your house with an iron fist, just too much for mere mortals to cope with. One thing they do in Sydney - which I am sure is general policy - on the first night (at least) they take the baby away so Mum can sleep. Apart from that, Z sounds about normal for the cereal. G wasn't too keen, though she ate it, til she was over 6 months old.
Janice we have done a lot of travel (3x to the UK) with G, and it was much easier doing the long legs when she was teeny tiny. I think the others have given you the drill!! I'm a bit scared about taking them both at the end of the year, but I know we will survive.

[Purplebird]

GBAGM - well done to Eli today, sounds like you had a great day! Cameron also says 'hello', but more 'e-oh' like the Teletubbies, lol!

Kate - you must be fit to drop by now. not long to go until sleep school, hang in there. DD never liked rice cereal at all and really who can blame her, it's like wallpaper paste :laughing:. Has Zoe still got a strong tongue thrust? She'll get the hang of it, don't worry.

Zeph - I can't see any issues with peas or corn, I'm sure they'd be fine. Canned peaches in natural juice would be good too. I won't be introducing meats until nearer 7 months, but I know you started solids a while ago so I'm not sure if you feel comfortable doing it sooner.

Teething - the SM33 gel is great - it has an anaesthetic in it so it works well. I've tried it on myself and it does a good job of numbing the area.

I'm still coughing up a lung, but Cam and DD are still fine *touches wood*.

Oh no, DH has just found one of our cats (they get locked in at night but he hadn't shown up). He's been attacked by the next door cat :(

[A'sMummy]

PB- Oh dear I hope your cat is ok!!
Kate- you are doing so well, not long now till sleep school. I am sure you will see some major improvements!!! :hugs:
Zeph- I haven't used the hylands teething tablets before but have also heard excellent things about them :thumbsup:
GBAGM-Glad to hear miss E was an angel yesterday! I hope the good sleeping turns into a regular occurance!
QC- Oh I am glad to hear that my bub is not so strange with cutting fangs first! I actually think looking like a vampire baby will be kinda cute LOL :goodvibes:. I was speaking to my mum last night and apparently both my brother and I cut our fangs first too, I think I read somewhere that cutting teeth has hereditary patterns. Maybe T will be a vampire baby like my Miss A too ;)

Well I am off to teach some surgeons how to use our ventral hernia mesh today at a hospital about 1.5hrs away each way, so Miss A is going to my mums soon. Oh the joys of being back at work :gloomy:.
No other news here... expect the weekend house clean up went well. Still have next weekend to do some more major cleaning before Anyas naming ceremony on the 2nd of August. I am really looking forward to it (the name day, not the cleaning haha).
Have a lovely day, I will pop back in this arvo to see how you all are xoxo

[Lateralus]

PB hope your cat is ok - we have a nasty tom that prowls around and attacks our boys too (they also get locked up at night but the tom starts his prowling around dusk, so if we're a little late in locking them up we know about it!!).

AFU another evening of restlessness and crying. Oh man am I starting to dread the evenings. We ended up taking Z for a long drive at midnight last night because she was just so tired but we couldn't get her to sleep. She eventually dropped off after about 45 minutes of us driving down bumpy roads through the fog. :smiliedance:

I am starting to get a bit worried that my milk supply is dwindling. My breasts don't seem to ever feel very full anymore. Although I have heard it suggested that this can be "normal" plus she is feeding every 2-3 hours so they don't really get a chance to really fill up totally. I guess it's one of those fears I have in the back of my mind, because our options for formula are so limited :( BUT - on the up side, she's still having lots of wet nappies and we're going to get her weighed today, so that should show us that she's still putting on weight. :fingerscrossed:

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

I am starting to get a bit worried that my milk supply is dwindling. My breasts don't seem to ever feel very full anymore. Although I have heard it suggested that this can be "normal" plus she is feeding every 2-3 hours so they don't really get a chance to really fill up totally. I guess it's one of those fears I have in the back of my mind, ... :fingerscrossed:

Kate I know how you feel, I too live in constant fear of this, i never seem to be full and Elianna is delightfully lazy and stops drinking when its no longer easy to get milk out. so i can't just put her on constantly to increase my supply as she just won't suck at an empty (or nearly empty) breast. I've gotten to the point where I'm afraid to wean her off her middle of the night feed as i don't think she'll get enough otherwise. at the moment she's still weeing fairly regularly (about 5 cloth nappies a day) and settles easily after a feed.
I'm trying to remain relaxed as i know being stressed just hinders the milk production. but yeah I'm worried :(, i really want to keep breastfeeding for as long as i can- mainly for closeness to my baby, health benefits for us both (at the moment its keeping my weight in control) and monetary concerns regarding buying formula... i guess i just have to trust she's getting enough

[Seacretsquirrel]

KJ and GBAGM don't stress about not feeling full that is normal - BF is a supply and demand thing so as our bodies get used to what our LO's drink they stop with the filling up to bursting biso that was common in the early days. You will prob find that if bubs gos longer than normal without a feed you'll get your full feeling back - the first time the sleep through is a killer!

PB Hope your cat is okay too! - and thats the stuff (SM33) I knew it had letters and numbers:o, DH liked to give it to DD more than the bonjela as he hates licorice/aniseed!

KJ - I posted a bit of a good sleep school story on FB for you too! there have been a few parents (of the kids my mum teaches) who have had great success with sleep schools.

AFU - my munchkins are being a bit painful but I think it has more to do with me not feeling very well (all fluey!) R is sleeping pretty well (woke at 3am for a feed and wouldn't settle with out it - I tried patting/dummy/water/cuddles but all he wanted was (.) (.) - I might have to wait till DH is home for a bit before I totally cut off the nighttime buffet cause it is too hard to have a screaming bub at 3am and try to settle with out the boob when I am the only one ther to comfort and I smell like milk.:rolleyes: Oh well he did go 9 hours last night - did wake at 8.30 or 10.30 like he normally does so perhaps we are getting there (I might try the dream feed for a few nights see if that makes him sleep through) Z has been a bit of a pain of late getting her into bed at night is getting rediculous (sp?) she stalls something fierce! - drinks and toys and toilet stops it is crazy and takes far too long must try to counteract all the stalls by having everything already in her room so all she has left is the "need to wee" tactic which I don't want to stop otherwise it will lead to a wet bed knowing my luck the one time I say NO you need to be in bed and have wee'd 3 times already will be the time she really needs to go for the 4th time!
anyhoo off to put on smoe wahign and then lay on the couch for a bit see if I can catch 40 winks:sleeping: shhh don't tell anyone:D

[MumNeedsCoffee]

Hi all,

I've been lurking around bubhub for a little while.
Learnt alot from reading other's posts.
I've been wondering too how to progress from not having to wrap my little Jade up as it seems to be the only way she will sleep and found some good tips in this chat.
We have been busy taking Jade to Westmead Childrens Hospital to get ready for her eye operation.

[ardora]

Hello everyone!

I have been MIA for a while and I have just managed to catch up in all your posts... just good that we are now far away from the 500 posts per month :)

KateJo, I wish you good luck with the sleeping school... I hope they do sort miss Z's sleeps. In any case it seems that you will manage to get some sleep regardless.

QC, PB and GBG8M... G is 'talking' all the time, to the point that I have told him to shut up already :D I try to speak on skype with my parents and cannot hear a thing because he was the one that had a lot to say. Now it is pretty funny because he sticks something in his mouth and that helps him to make more consonants. He also says something that sounds like 'oh yeah' and it is hilarious when he ramdonly uses it to 'answer' a question :D

Re- supply, I too feel that my breasts are softer now and G is a bit all over the place with his day sleeps at the moment so I don't know if (1) he is just over the place because he is teething (I cannot see any teeth though); (2) my supply is lower; or, (3) he is ready for solids.... how is that we are so out of touch with nature not to understand a 5 month old!!! it is frustrating.

Re- sleeping, G did 4 nights in a row of sleepign through the night until 7 in the morning!! woohoo!!! two of those nights I was expecting him to get up earlier so I could feed him and leav ethe house early (I went diving on saturday :flowerz:).. BUT now he has been back to his waking up at 5 for a feed normal thing and last night I had to resettle him twice (teething? need for solids? who knows?).... I wish he went back to sleeping through the night.

Re- working, I am happy working two days a week, although I am getting frustrated as I don't get to finish as many things as when I was full time... need to learn to lower my weekly objectives... G is really happy at day care, the workers there seem lovely to me and G is a little star there because he is one of the youngest and smiles and giggles all the time

AFU- G seems to be teething but I am not sure; he is restless during the day and it is pretty hard ot put him to sleep during the day. He spent all of saturday with no sleep at all :confused: He is happy though, it is not like he is crying and that, he is still my content little boy. He is growing a lot but he still has an slender build, his 00s are starting to be short but they are still wide.

well he is awake now

have a great day!! :goodvibes:

[zephani]

I've just come home from baby group and I feel like I'm going to cry. I feel really deflated :crying:

We were talking about feeding and I mentioned the foods that K has tried, the variety she has and that she is having two tablespoons of solids three times a day. I mentioned that she has been on solids for two months.

A couple of people said that I shouldn't be giving her that amount of food or that wide a variety because her liver and intestines aren't mature or developed enough to deal with it. They said she shouldn't be having that amount or variety till still is 7 - 9 months and I might not see the problems now but when she is 30 she will be diagnosed with problems in those areas because of what I've done to her now.

What do other people think? I'm trying my best. I make her food myself. I've been reading books and threads on weaning, solids and purees. I ask questions on here when I am unsure of things.

I've previously mentioned other negative comments I've had from other people and to be honest I feel like a failure right now. DH said not to worry about it. That K is a happy, healthy, beautiful baby and that is all that counts.

Yesterday she had a tablespoon of rice cereal and a tablespoon of banana for breakfast, two tablespoons of mixed apple and pear for lunch, and two tablespoons of mixed potato, sweet potato and broccoli for dinner. She also had four 200ml bottles.

[Seacretsquirrel]

zephani - don't let others get to you go with your instincts on this one. K is a biggish bub(no offence) and is happy with eating the amount and variety you are giving her. as long as she is having the milk first and you are not forcing her to eat then I don't see the problem. All kids are different, what works for some and not others if all kids were the same we wouldn't be having sleeping, feeding, teething burping bathing (I could go on:D) issues. I thought I read somewhere that your GP/Paed was aware of the fact that K is on solids and has been for a while I am sure if they knew of these problems that arise later on then something would have been said earlier!
As for the variety and amount it might be normal to have that amount and vairety at 7 or 8 months if you started solids at 6 months- DD started at 6 months and we moved to quite a variety fairly fast (one at a time for a few days to suss out allergies etc) but you started early so all these things will also be happening earlier!
anyhoo enough :ecomcity: from me and huge :hugs: your DH is right ignore them and follow your intincts!

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

Zeph oh hon, :hugs:

don't let other spiteful and competitive mums bring you down! you are doing a great job and Katherine is doing great!

i was just reading my "breast bottle bowl" book and introducing solids and it says that bub would be on 3 meals a day from when they're around double their birth weight and by the sounds of it Katherine's been at that stage for a while

as long as you are not force-feeding her i would say she's probably okay. besides which our mother's started feeding us solids from 8 weeks ish and we're fine. i would hold off on meat and citrus food which may cause issues but there's nothing wrong with vegies as far as i can tell

chin up! I think you're a great mum and so does SS, your DH and Katherine :thumbsup::hugs:

hope your day looks better soon
(p.s. feel free to PM me for my number if you ever want to chat!)

[sweetseven]

GR8 That's wonderful. I might have to try that feed-play-sleep routine myself. (I've always used the forbidden feed-them-to-sleep method, and this one, if she gets disturbed when entering her sleep cycle, she stay awake for another five hours; not fun.)

PB Poor kitty. :hugs:

Z I agree with SS and GR8, you are and your bub are doing fine. I really believe in taking cues from bub as to how much solids they need. I'm afraid everyone has different oppinions, so please try not to let others opinions get you down, and you need to decide what is working for you and your baby.

No sign of teething here yet.

DP has also suggested another possible reason for my pseudo-pregnancy symptoms, early menopause. I guess it is plausable, but I don't really think it is the case. The latest symptom that gave him this idea is that I am having difficulty coping with heat at the moment. I'll be feeling just a little cool (and comfortable in a jacket), whereas other people are freezing, so the heater gets turned on. Immediately I take off the jacket, and within 20 minutes am starting to feel quite uncomfortable with the heat. I've even had a few occasions when out and about during the day that I've had to take my jacket off because it was a little too much (even though without the jacket was quite cool).

[quitecontrary]

Zeph sorry to hear you copped an earful. Solids is something everyone has an opinion on, and as long as you and your bub are happy thats the most important thing.
PB I did laugh about your wallpaper glue comment - things must've been hard for you as a kid if you had to resort to that!!!
One thing about baby food is it sure isn't designed for our palete!
Kate with the full boob thing - mine only feel full again these days with T sleeping overnight - and well in the evenings. When he's on the booby-fest thing they never feel it. As SS said it is unusual to have that exploding milk thing going on, but it should settle down soon as its only been a few nights.
teira they don't let up on you in your house! If your not "suffering" from one "feminine" complaint its another they're reading into.
All is well here. Both the kids are napping and we have friends coming over at 3, so it should be well timed I think. I took the kids for the station walk and play in the park again this morning, and it is definitely worth it, G is such a happier camper when she's been out amongst it. Toby slept in the pram so fresh air agrees with him too!
I've been missing my m-i-l today, Genevieve turned around to dh and I when we were all in bed this morning and said "Granny and Grand-dad live in London" just out of the blue. How do you cope with that one? All I said was "Yes, they do" and had a quiet tear for us all. I can't believe my children are already down a grandparent. Oh well, I'll have to deal with the explanations before too long I suppose - you just can't ignore it. One of the drawbacks of being an older Mum I suppose is having your children have older grandparents.

[parentingrocks]

OMG!!!!!!!! zeph - DON'T LISTEN TO THEM!!!!!!
You KNOW you are doing the right thing. She needs her solids - you can tell - you wouldn't have started her on them otherwise. As long as milk is first and solids are just 'extra' it is fine (well thats my opinion).
I just wanted to ask though - how many bottles/ feeds is everyone doing in a 24 hour period - I iknow all babies are different but hearing Zeph say her little one has 4 200ml bottles makes me feel like I am pumping too much liquid into Charli - she has about 3/4 200ml formula bottles plus 2 breastfeeds! is that too much??

Well hope you all are going well, sorry for the lack of personals. x

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

Elianna has 5 breastfeeds throughout the day and usually another one in the middle of the night. but i doubt she has anywhere near 200mls at each feed, when i express i'm lucky to get 80mls out from a very full breast. who knows?????? all i know is she's generally very happy, makes enough wet nappies to keep me busy in the laundry and settles well after a feed.

isn't the rule 100-150mls per kg of body weight for a liquid only diet? i think i read that somewhere:rolleyes:

[A'sMummy]

Zeph- oh hun don't worry about what other mothers say, you know what is best for your little one!! :hugs:
I sometimes find other mothers to be so judgemental and competitive, I just don't know why it has to be that way?! You are doing a wonderful job!!! :thumbsup:

[Purplebird]

Zeph - how rude of those mums, now don't you let them get you down. You are doing your best for your own baby and how is that any of their business? :hugs: You're a lovely mum

QC - that's sad that G has been asking about granny and granddad :( I'm sorry you're missing m-i-l :hugs:

Tiera - it does sound like you feel there's something wrong. Have you thought about getting checked out - maybe you have a hormone imbalance of some kind?

I have absolutely no idea how much breastmilk Cam has. I don't really take any notice of how often he feeds, only because he sometimes has a good, big feed and other times he snacks (so feeds very often). All I can say is that he is a big greedy fatty, lol!

Thanks for the kitty well wishes. He seems fine, but has a massive sore on the side of his head. We cleaned it and will monitor for infection. Bl00dy cat next door has cost us literally $1000s in vets bills :(

[zephani]

Ladies THANK YOU SO MUCH for your positive thoughts today :hugs: It was so nice to hear people saying that they think I am doing a good...or dare I even say it...great job :yes: I wish our Feb Thread could be my baby group and we could meet every week. How much fun would that be :D

She does have her milk first...or at least half before and half afterwards. And I don't force her to eat it all. At breakfast she might only eat half of the two tablespoons, but then at lunch she might eat all of the two tablespoons and at dinner the same. Our GP is supportive of us and is happy with her progress.

I've decided to be strong and self believing enough to say that I will continue going the way I have. Knowing that I am doing the best I can do for my baby. And for me that is good enough!

On a side note DH and I went and saw the new Harry Potter movie tonight. I really enjoyed and can't wait for the last two movies to come out. I think it was the perfect distraction after the day I've had.

T3 Poor you! You sound like you are busy and that's why you are having these symptoms. I'm busy with one baby. I can't imagine having seven girls.

GBAGM In Robin Barker's book "Baby Love" it recommends 120ml per kilo of body weight.

[A'sMummy]

With the how many mls of milk per day thing. Anya has well below what is recommended in many books etc but she is putting on weight and has lots of wet nappies. She would be around 8kg now and she drink between 500-700mls max per day. I actually asked my midwife about her lack of fluid intake as I was quite concerned and she told me only to worry if it was consistantly 500ish or below and she is really happy with Anyas progress as she was born just on 3kg and is now approx 8kg at 5months. I feed Anya around 7 times a day just to get enough into her as she will only take around 100mls at a time. I have tried holding her longer between feeds but then it does drop below 500mls per day. It's like she gets bad wind pains when drinking and wont have anymore.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Glad you are feeling better about feeding miss K Zeph. I agree it would be wonderful to have this group IRL.
A's Mummy It is such a pain when they get the wind pain I am still BF R but some days he is jsut a royal pain with not feeding properly - yesterday is a prime example with him only really having 2 really good feeds and a few half as5ed ones. He often pulls off with tummy pains too I def have to burb between each side and often halfway through a side too which can make for a very long feed. I have been giving R a tiny bit of mylanta on occasion (shhh I just give him .5-1ml but I didn't ask the Drs first)-often at night he does the back arching crankyness when feeding and just after and that seems to settle him down fairly fast so I am wondering about a bit of reflux - I will be asking about it when I see the MCHN in a couple of weeks.

AFU I am still feeling a bit crook but a bit better today so we are braving the indoor playcentre with some friends in the hope of wearing miss Z out so she has a quiet arvo and a nice nap so I can too:D esp since I was up every hour or so to one or the other R was up twice (12.30 and 3am) and awake at 6 but did go back to sleep till now! and Miss Z came into my bed 3 times between midnight and 3 am and then woke me up at 6.30 so I am rather knackered I can see how people give up and let their kids sleep in their beds but I don't really want to get into that habit esp since she is a pretty good sleeper normally.
anyhoo R is awake and I better get ready to go. Hope you have a lovely day.:yes:

[gizmoduckus]

Welcome to our chat Skyeby80 :wave:

How is everyone feeling this morning? I am exhausted. I think L is going backwards with his sleeping. :sleeping:

Has anyone noticed the new chat at the bottom of bubhub? Please add me as your friend so I am not so lonesome. :D

Don't have time to catch up on personals ATM but will try to get back on soon.

[A'sMummy]

Gizmo- Anya recently went backwards in her sleeping aswell. Went from sleeping through the night to waking 6 times, and now we have got it back to only 2 times per night. It has taken us 7 weeks to get back to 2 times, talk about exhausting!! :sleeping:

[A'sMummy]

Oh and I noticed the chat thing but thought my computer was playing up and it was still from my facebook LOL! :o I would love some friends too hehehe

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

i can't believ how quickly things change when you're a baby!

last week Elianna was rolling occassionally, and it obviously took a bit of concerntration on her behalf, she was only sitting for a maximum of 5 seconds....

this week she's rolling around on the floor "wrestling" with the junk mail like she's been doing it for years- she's travelled a good 7 m this way, she's sitting completely on her own-no hands- and even reaching for her toys and balancing herself with her tummy muscles

i'm in awe!!


She's soo beautiful :flowerz::flowerz::flowerz:

[gizmoduckus]

:yelclap: for Elianna. Isn't exciting when they learn something new?

Well we had a bad night last night but Liam seems to be making it up today. He had a 2 hour sleep this morning and now he has been sleeping for 1 and a half hours and still going. So much different from his normal 45 min naps.

Does anyone know or remember when the wonder weeks are? I don't know if he is going through a wonder week or if his teething is bothering him or if he is just being a pain....

Liam turns 6 months old on Friday. I have started trying to give him solids the last couple of weeks but he is just not interested. I have tried pear, sweet potato and potato. Today I tried him on Raffertys and I had a little more luck with that but not what you would expect. Does this mean he is going to be one of those kids that doesn't eat? My niece is like that and she drives my SIL nuts.

Zephani - I am glad that you are feeling better. Sometimes some mothers put other mothers down because they feel insecure about how they parent. It really has nothing to do with you. It would be nice to have you all in a proper mothers group. It is such a shame that I am the only one here from Adelaide but if you want, I am home Monday next week if you all want to come over for lunch...... :p:laughing:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Giz - don't stress just yet it might just be that he isn't quite ready for solids yet! I'd wait a few days and try again and keep doing that until he is keen. DD took ages to take to the rice but likes the apple but she is a PITA with food sometimes - she has huge food days and little food days I try to look at the overall picture and not stress too much

[quitecontrary]

Giz I second what SS said, G wasn't too fussed at all about food when we started her, to the point that we stopped entirely for a fortnight when we were in China with her - and she wouldn've been eating for about 2 months by that point. She did take to it when she was ready though! Who knows what Mr T will be like in that regard!
Toby is fine, sleeping through well, this morning we all got a sleep-in til 7 as for some reason or other G slept in. Well, I woke up at 5.30 with a grumble from Toby, dh attended to him then for some reason I didn't really get back to sleep properly, I was waiting for him to wake up. You think by now I'd have worked it out that T doesn't usually wake up til G comes in to us!
Our day was mixed, mainly due to the devil replacing our two year old when it came to nap time. They are both well and truly asleep now. Dh is making dinner and I've had a bubble bath - so its not all bad!!

[Seacretsquirrel]

Morning all,
Well I am officially nuts (well more so than you all thought :yes: ) I braved the Target toy sale with both kids in tow!

I actually did really well (once I managed to get a hold of a trolley and Z sat and it I had R in the Ergo so it worked quite well.
I bought some games for Z, and a little kettle and Ironing board (Nanna and Grandad bought her a cleaning trolly form ALdi and a little vacuum that looks like a Dyson) so she is all set! Poor R I only got him a little car the megablocks one that has a couple of block in it but as I have said before he has a stack of toys for this age that were Zahlias. I also got a little mobile for a GF who is Pg and xmas pressies for 2 of Z's friends and my Dad.
So I am a fair way there with my shopping!!!
oops better go R is crying his little heart out:crying:

[Purplebird]

Wow, well done Cat! :yelclap: What a great effort! I haven't been to any of the toy sales at all this year - I would just go mad and get lots of things we don't actually need if I went! The kids will get their swing set for the new house and there is a factory outlet round here which sells them, so that's Christmas done for them!

Cameron is driving me a bit mad with his new sounds - blowing raspberries, squealing and growling. He loves to practice them over and over again, especially in the early hours! He's so funny though - for some reason he laughs uncontrollably at his name. I didn't think it was that odd!! :laughing: Oh and he has managed a half roll several times now. I think he is too fat to move any further!

I am trying to reclaim the inner domestic goddess again. Poor DH has been picking up the slack for far too long, but he is working much longer hours now. So, accordingly I have a steak and ale stew going in the slow cooker and have cleaned and tidied like there's no tomorrow! Does anyone else feel like they either have to do the housewife thing or do the mummy thing? I find one of those roles suffers on any one day and frankly I'd much rather leave the housework! Ah well.

Mums of toddlers - any tips for getting DD (2.5) to poo in the toilet or potty? She is 100% successful on wees and she knows exactly when she is going to poo (she tells me), but she will not do it on the loo or potty. She has no issues pooing in her undies either, she just does it then asks me to clean her up! Is it just a time thing? We've had to go back into pull ups because all the cleaning up was too much!

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

Cameron is driving me a bit mad with his new sounds - blowing raspberries, squealing and growling. He loves to practice them over and over again,

oh i have one of these too- and i have to say i really preferred the gentle cooing she started off with than the raspberries, but the out and out laughter kind of makes up for it- so cute!



I am trying to reclaim the inner domestic goddess again. Poor DH has been picking up the slack for far too long, but he is working much longer hours now. .... Does anyone else feel like they either have to do the housewife thing or do the mummy thing? I find one of those roles suffers on any one day and frankly I'd much rather leave the housework! Ah well.


oh me too (plus the inner sex godess, my poor DH :no:) i too struggle to find the balance, its either all about Elianna in which case i am shattered during her nap time, else she goes in the sling and i barely interact with her while i do the housework, any tips ladies?


i was also wondering if anyone is taking the mini pill? Has anyone experienced any side-effects relating to milk supply? also does anyone have any tips for remembering to take them? i have never been on a pill (DH and i started TTC as soon as we were married) and am finding it really hard to rememeber to take them, especially since it has to be around the same time everyday and the most effective time for me to take them is 11am- which is a pain! also does nayone know how long you have to take them before they are effctive?
i've tried googling but i'm not getting much :confused:

thanks in advance :o

Kath

[Lateralus]

i was also wondering if anyone is taking the mini pill? Has anyone experienced any side-effects relating to milk supply?

Kath

I am not taking the minipill, but two of the girls from my mums group went on it and both found that it decreased their milk supply - one to the point that she had to give up the breast feeding so proceed with caution!!!

PB I don't know when I will ever be able to get on top of the house work ever again... Zoe is pretty all-consuming with her fussiness and needing to be constantly carried - and because she sleeps so cr@p overnight, whenever she does sleep during the day, I really feel I have to put my head down for a nap too. The way we are working the house work at the moment is - I will take Zoe out for 1/2 a day (which is no mean feat when she is so cranky) & DH will run the vacuum round, or DH will take her for a long walk & I will run the vacuum round. The house hasn't had a proper thorough clean since she was born - we just touch up what we can. It's pretty pathetic. There are those of you who manage 100 times more with 4 or 5 kids in tow - I don't know how you do it! :confused:

4 sleeps 'till sleep school. I have had a shocker of a headache the past 2 days, so I just hope that I am not getting sick & that we'll have to postpone again. That just wouldn't be fair at all! I am taking mega doses of vitamin C to try and ward off any potential lurgies!

[floodprincess]

:hugs: to everyone!

It's so great to be hearing about all the milestones and smiling when you recognise something your little one does.

Zeph - as the others have all said, don't let anyone get to you with their ideas of parenting! We are all different and so are our babies....you are doing a fantastic job!

Kate - hang in there! I'm sure you'll find a solution soon...

Giz & A'smummy - we've gone backward in the sleep dept too! We were nicely getting around 10 hrs a night (1930 - 0530) which was fantastic with me being back at work....but lately, M's been wanting an 0200 feed :sleeping: worse still is when she's up at 0400 because it's too late to go back to bed (I feel worse when I wake again) but too early to stay up :hair:

Why is it that you always fall crook when you can't get in to see a quack?? for the past two days I've been suffering incredible chills (can't get warm) a screaming headache (which just won't quit) dizziness and a sore L boob!! M has been feeding like a trooper but this boob just doesn't quit....I tried expressing today just to ease the pressure and nearly died when I spotted this yellow, thick pussy stuff coming from the nipple (at first it was tinted with a little blood) - sorry for TMI, but I feel sooo crappy and while I realise I've got an infection of some desciption - I can't find a doctor who'll see me :crying:

Ah well, I'll suck it up for tonight, keep perservering with M and try a sob story on all the local quacks first thing tomororw....

Hope everyone is feeling better and staying well.

:hugs:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Hey Ladies

Lets see how I go with personals

Kate - Poor you re the sleep I hope the sleep school helps I will be sending lots of these :goodvibes: your way.

FP Hope you can get into a Dr soon - is it worth seeing if there is a night clinic open somewhere nearby - one of those walk in ones I know the cost a bit more but it might be an option esp if you can't get in to see a Dr for ages.

Giz & A'smummy - yep us too with the sleep backsliding he did quite well for a day or so with no overnight feeds but we are back to up and down like a bloomin yo yo luckily I am feeling better than I was earlier in the week so it isn't quite as taxing. Riley has decided thet 3 hourly is how he wants to feed all day and night but they are more snacky feeds so it is a vicious circle.

PB - Riley is keen on the squealing and growling too it is a crack up - well not the squeals esp when Zahlia is picking it up!:hair: but he delights in making all sorts of noises he does the "eh oh" thing too and was saying mmmmmm this morning so perhaps "mum mum" before "dad dad" (not holding my breath)

GBAGM - I was on the mini pill when I was BF Zahlia I don't remember if it reduced my milk supply and I found it was a pain to remember to take at the same time each day too I think I ended up taking it just before bed as that was when I was more consistently at home and able to take it! - I really should b e thinking about that but I want DH to get the snip so I don't have to take the pill as it makes me nuts and emotional. Really need to have that discussion!

PB - I am currently procrastinating re the housework and DD had mashed potato for tea as I was feeling lazy (and she is a bit crook and it is what she felt like).
Oh and the inner sex godess is MIA too but not a big deal as DH is away ATM - although he is home tomorrow and Sat so hopefully she reaserts herself at least for a couple of days!;)

Anyway off to think about what I am going to have for tea and herd Miss Z towards her bed too (although it is a bit early just yet!)

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

I am not taking the minipill, but two of the girls from my mums group went on it and both found that it decreased their milk supply - one to the point that she had to give up the breast feeding so proceed with caution!!!



oh no :no::( i've been noticing over the last few days that i haven't felt the "let-down" at any of my feeds- but i have to go on the pill, i am soooo notready to take the risk of falling pregnant again and i'm not confident enough to trust in the whole breastfeeding=no ovulation thing :rain:

i'm freaking out now!

[quitecontrary]

PB and GBAGM I have a chatterbox man too - it is really funny to listen to him, and the volume is fantastic! It has to be around here, we don't have a monitor!!
Sorry GBAGM no clues on the mini-pill here, put a reminder in your mobile to go off at the same time every day. Or get dh to give you the friendly reminder call so he takes some responsibility for contraception too. There is sure to be a thread on it here somewhere. One of my gfs used the mini pill, and she fed all her babies til 18 months. I'm with you with not wanting another bun-in-the-oven just yet, we use condoms. Can't see the point in the pill if we're not having a lot of sex.
SS very game indeed taking both your kids to the sales.
I'm not heading off to Target - I always find it disappointing plus there isn't anything we actually want/need.
Oh yes, and as for the Inner Domestic Goddess - she rarely surfaces here. I go through spates of cooking, and the washing gets done, but dh is the main man in that regard. Though I have to say G loves cooking and helping so we do a bit of baking!! Poor old T is often left to his own devices but he's a happy little chap and doesn't mind!
I'm still feeling a bit yucky, so have made a Drs appt for tomorrow - I suppose the answer is to rest up. FP hope you get in to see a Doc soon, just front up at your usual surgery - they can't turn away someone with your symptoms. I had to ring my Doc's twice as I hung up on them the first time when I couldn't see my usual Dr - then I sheepishly called back to make an appt with someone else.
Dh is putting G to bed, T went down about half an hour ago. Then poor old dh has to cook me dinner! I do love him!
hugs to all of you!

[zephani]

GBAGM I totally agree with you about how quickly things change with our LO's. Yesterday Katherine was in her bouncer and sit up perfectly straight and then leaned forward resting on her hands. DH and I thought it was a once off but she did again today and hated lying down in the capsule trolley when we were in Coles and Bunnings today. She still can't roll over or sit up from laying down but it is progress.

Good luck with the mini pill and your breastfeeding.

I'm sorry to hear many of us are having problems sleeping. Katherine has been going to bed early as she hasn't been sleeping as much during the day.

Gizmo We could travel Australia having lunch at everyone's house. Your place next Monday and mine on the Central Coast of NSW the Monday after that :laughing:

SS We braved Target today as well. Not for the toysale as DH and I did the Kmart toysale but for bibs that were half price in the catalogue.

PB We also have a raspberry blowing squealer here. If Katherine isn't getting enough attention she blows a raspberry and then dribbles everywhere, all the while smiling knowing that she is the centre of attention again. I could do without the high pitch squealing though. It's so high that it sends shivers down your spine.

I also wish I could be a domestic goddess but unfortunately I'm not. DH always does the cleaning in our house. I feel bad but I've never been domestic even before DH and I got together. I did the dishes the other day when the kitchen sink got so full we couldn't see the kitchen sink. We bought a secondhand dishwasher on ebay today so that the kitchen would look less messy.

KJ Fingers crossed that you stay healthy so that you are able to go to sleep school.

FP I agree with others you should go to a walk-in clinic if you can't get into your Dr. You need to get this checked.

Thank you again for all your support the other day. It means a lot. I sent a copy of my post here to a couple of my friends and I have to copy one response I got here. It's brash and blunt, but heartfelt and made me smile. It's from my friend Sarah.

"Do you really want my opinion on this babe? Put it this way I went to mothers group once and realised what a bunch of know it all ****wits they all were and I never went again. I cant believe a strong, independent woman like you would let them affect you like that! Your doing an awesome job as a Mum, you dont have anything to worry about Ok? Your certainly not a failure and its just silly for you to think that way! Now I dont want to hear anymore negative thoughts about this, if those *****es are making you feel that way babe.....dont go anymore!"

Away to eat Chinese that DH bought for dinner.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Zeph - I love your friend!!! that is the perfect thing to say!!!

I am contemplating going back tomorrow to the toy sale I remembered that I was going to get one of those balls with the handle things for DD but I didn't see them today!!
Back to the Domestic Goddess I really need to stop prograstinating (on the computer) and do at least a sweep and a mop and fold the washing before DH gets home!!!! God I am slack :o

[sweetseven]

FP I think you should go to your hospital ER. Mastitis can escallate fast and requires IV antibiotics.

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

:crying::hissy::rain: i just gave Elianna her first comp feed- i know its not the end of the world, but i feel like i've failed her :gloomy: she guzzled it down, she was obviously starving poor little mite, i feel so terrible! i really wanted to breastfeed until she self-weaned, but my supply has pretty much dried up overnight. i've tried drinking more water, eating porridge, lactation cookies, relaxation and breathing techniques, nothing's working :no: i can't get it out of my head that some women can BF their ADOPTED children purely through determination adn grit but i can't even feed my own baby :(
sorry for the pity party, i just needed to get that out

[Purplebird]

FP - hun I was thinking the same as Tiera. It sounds like mastitis. Can you see somebody at all before it gets too bad? I hope you get it sorted :hugs:

[BoyCrazy]

hi ladies
i have been extremely slack and not posted in here for a while, and i have had so many pages to catch up on all of you are way too chatty lol..

where to start..

GBAGM- i went onto the minipill for a while, apparently its not meant to cause issues with BF which is why its commonly prescribed to bf mums. i was specifically on microlut..i have the info here on the bf part.."microlut does not appear to affect the quantity or quality of breast milk, however minute amounts of the active substance are secreted into the breast milk. Very rarely, adverse effects onthe child have been reported, such as yellowing of the skin or eyes, also called jaundice." another option could be the mirena device? apparently meant to be very good and has no effects on milk supply.

AFU i spent 4 days in bed due to food poisoning that i got last friday..OMG it was sooo bad, plus i had bronchitis on top..i couldnt even hold sips of water down..and consequently my milk almost dried up..had to go to the docs to get some motillium, gosh those tablets are wonderful! i went from hardly having any milk, to feeding jasper in big puddles of milk lol..i need a breast pump to express the rest i think and then freeze it. for just incase times.

went to target sale today and bought an elmo sit me up for jasper! its wonderful he can sit up supported in there or he can lay in it, so now he goes between the sit me up, the jumperoo and the bouncer chair lol

i cant believe our babies are nearly 6 months already!! :crying:

for those whove started solids, how many solid feeds do you give per day?

oh tiera- how did bubs renal appointment go? have u had the followup yet?

[Purplebird]

GBAGM - :hugs: you are not a failure. Some bubs love to guzzle a bottle as it's a bit easier than feeding at the breast. Are you sure your supply has dried up? I know you want to keep breastfeeding so I hope you can find an answer. Whatever happens you've made it to half a year :smiliedance: That's an amazing achievement!

BM - that sounds awful, you poor thing. Thank goodness for motilium. (Maybe that would work for you GBAGM?)

[sweetseven]

GR8 :hugs: I comp fed DD2 & DD3 so understand where you are coming from.

[mummyJ]

hey ladies...I have been a reading non-poster!! you guys are too interesting and I'm too boring obviously!!!
GBAGM - Don't stress yet!! Just keep going!!! You are doing brilliantly!!! Whatever happens, happens...Praying you can keep on going since you have such a strong desire to!
FP - Yep sounds like a bad case of mastitis - including your other symptoms...Get youself anywhere quick! Antibiotics do WONDERS! So grateful I havent had mastitis this round. Had it with DS 3 times!

Sounds like a few people have jumparoos! Do you have he Fisher Price jungle one? I bought it today in the sales. L is very clingy which I'm not used to as DS was completely not! I need to have something she really likes when I need short breaks. She loves it...am sooo pleased!

Still haven't started solids, but shes still short of 5 months. Have given her tastes of apple and stuff, but she isn't interested! I don't want her to eat yet anyway! Just want her to get used to other tastes. She is a hefty 9kg at short of 5 months, so its not like she's starving!!! :laughing:

She is waking more in the night too...I wonder what it's all about? Anyone read why they seem more wakeful at this age? Is it just teeth or what??

Anyway better run so I don't bore you all to :sleeping:

Will try and keep up with you all and keep posting!!! :yes:

[BoyCrazy]

hey Jo, we bought the fisherprice jumperoo, jazzy loves it as much as i do lol..its great for some hands free time :yes:
hes become a bit clingy too..apparently seperation anxiety can set in as early as 5 mths!!
im starting to wonder if the night waking is happening cos bubs are starting to roll? or maybe teeth? maybe a combination lol who knows!!! im sure they just like to keep us guessing!! :laughing:

GBAGM- i posted a thread about losing my supply in the breastfeeding section while i was sick..a few good tips were to increase your feeds (ie put bub to breast more often to encourage milk flow) & to get some of those motilium tablets from the GP. try not to stress hun, (easier said than done i know) no matter what you are a fantastic mum who only wants the best for her little one :hugs:

ok im off to bed to try and get some sleep..have just fed the little man, so hopefully he is out for a few hours!! :fingerscrossed:
hope everyone has a good night!

[Lateralus]

Hi everyone.. gosh you've all been chatty in the last day or so...

FP hope you're doing ok... It does sound like mastitis.. Get yourself to a doctor ASAP girl - even if you have to go to the local ED... Mastitis can make you very sick pretty quickly! I can sympathise with you having had it 3 times! When I had it, I was advised (by Robyn Noble LC of the Bayside Breastfeeding Clinic) to take... 6000mg fish oil per day (either all in the morning or 1/2 in morning & 1/2 at night), 3000mg Evening Primrose Oil (in morning or 1/2 morning & 1/2 at night) and 10,000mg Vitamin C (not the chewable type - the type you swallow whole) spread out through out the day (I took 1000mg every 2nd hour)... It's a hell of a lot of vitamin C and will probably make your stomach funny - but it's safe to take while BFing and helps ward off the infection! I found one of those squashy ice packs in my bra also helped with the pain. Good luck with it. Hope you feel better soon!! :hugs:

GBAGM I am sorry if I sounded a bit doom and gloom when I said I knew of people who had a problem with the minipill & milk supply. I truly hope it's not affected you in that way! Might be worth talking to your doc about some motilium if you think your supply is decreasing. Is E still having lots of wet nappies? As PB said, maybe she just guzzled the milk from the bottle because it's easier to drink and not because she's overly hungry! You are NOT a failure, you are a fantastic Mum who would do anything for her daughter - that's all anyone can expect of you (and all you can expect of yourself!).

BM Sorry to hear you've been crook. How unfair to cop food poisoning on top of bronchitis. Blegh!

AFU 3 sleeps 'till sleep school :smiliedance:
We went to the Target toy sale today and we too also got a fisher price jumparoo and Zoe LOVES it!! I can actually put her down for 1/2 hour without her cracking it! Awesome! I also got her a whole heap of books and toys to put away from Christmas including the whole Dr Seuss collection - can wait to crack it open and start reading them to her!

[zephani]

GBAGM Please don't think you are a failure. Focus on the positive fact that you have been able to feed Eli this long. I had to bottle feed from when Katherine was just one week old. You are a great Mum!

BM I'm glad that you are starting to feel better! Food poisoning and bronchitis. Yuck.

As for solids...I feed Katherine two tablespoons of solids three times a day and four bottles. I've been using the 'Baby and Toddler Meals' book by Robin Barker author of 'Baby Love' and Annabel Karmel's book 'Feeding Your Baby and Toddler'.

FP Have you been to the Dr yet? I've been thinking about you all night. Sending good thoughts your way.

MummyJ Welcome! I know about having a heavy baby. Miss Katherine is 9kgs as well but she is a really long baby. She is 73cm long and is starting to get a little too short for her size 0 clothes.

KJ Counting down the days to sleep school. Stay well Mummy and Zoe.

AFU I went food shopping by myself this morning. Was wierd being out without Katherine. Then I had the most amazing, relaxing massage.

Tonight we are having dinner with my sister as it is my niece's birthday. We love spending time with that part of the family. The only thing is that my step mother will be there. She's not really my step mother as my Father passed away nearly 5 years ago, but you know what I mean. We never got along when Dad was alive and this will be the first time I have seen her since my Father's funeral. I know I have to be there as it is for my niece's birthday but it is going to feel awkward.

[A'sMummy]

Well it sounds like a few of us hit the Target toy sales :D
We got Anya a jolly jumper which she is loving!! I am very cautious with it and only like her in it for a maxium of 10mins at a time. I wonder if it is good for their backs and legs?! I have heard good and bad reports :detective:
Zeph- good to hear you enjoyed your massage! I hope dinner tonight goes well.
FP- Have been thinking of you... hope you're doing ok and have it all under control now :hugs:
GBAGM- Hun, don't be hard on yourself for giving her a comp feed. You have been doing an amazing job breastfeeding and I am sure it will continue!!

[A'sMummy]

Oh yay just got some more replies to Anyas name day, we now have 57 adults and 9 children coming with a few more days before the RSVP. I can't wait!! It's like I am planning my wedding all over again :smiliedance:
I wish I were a party planner full time, that would be awesome :D

[quitecontrary]

AM just keep on planning those parties!! If Anya is like Genevieve she will want as many as possible!
Sounds like a few of you have the fisherprice jumperoo - I think we've decided that its a bit too busy for us with a 2 year old as well!! But we will dig out the Jolly Jumper soon, I think T might enjoy it! G wasn't too fussed on it, but for my youngest niece it was a godsend, it was the only time I saw her smile, poor poss.
We did a big order on Amazon for books for G the other day - spent her Christmas voucher from her great uncle at last! They must be arriving before too long. I read to both the kids in our bed this morning for a good half hour or so, T was enjoying himself immensely!
BM I think there is some corelation between the waking and being able to move!! Even though I've cut out the feed T is still usually waking and chatting at the same time - Dh then finds him out of his wrap up the other end of the cot!
MJ good to see you here again, and you are not boring!
Well, it seems the UTI lurgy is still lurking here. I cracked and went to the Doc today, and am on a course of superstrong yet acceptable for bf-ing antibiotics. I hope they work better than the last course I took. I also hope that little To has no reaction to the additive in his milk. Oh well, I have a script for stuff for him if he does get oral thrush. He's pretty resiliant though I think!

[mummyJ]

AM - wow that is a serious party!!! haha for my name day all I ever got was like a chocolate!! Nice to see you embracing your Finnish heritage!!

Hoping the weather stays nice...We want to head of to Balmoral beach tomorrow with the fam...who knows...Eli might even have a little dip...Children are on such a different thermostat to us!!

2 weeks til our holiday. We are heading up to Coffs? Anyone from around there?? So looking forward to it!!!!

[Lateralus]

Morning all...

Hope FloodPrincess is doing OK - we haven't heard from her in a few days since she's been sick... Thinking of you hon! :hugs:

For those BFing AND on antibiotics... A wee suggestion... As many of Zoe's food sensitivities are thought to be due to the fact I was on the antis for so long for the mastitis... We have her on a probiotic to try and help protect and replenish her gut flora. We have her on one called nourishing flora - we break open the capsule (it's powder inside) into a clean glass jar & finger feed her about 1/4 of the cap twice a day.. It seems to have helped somewhat... Something to keep in mind anyway!

DH & I are off to an ABBA party for a few hours tonight. We are leaving Zoe with my best friend who has a few kids of her own. I am a bit nervous but I am sure they will get on fine. I have some expressed milk in the fridge.. Hopefully Zoe will take a bottle from my friend. I only thought of the possibility that she mightn't an hour or so ago... Oh well - I guess if they run into problems we can always just come home. I can't wait to get dress up and to go out for a few hours without her though... Hope that doesn't sound too terrible :laughing: Then it's off to sleep school on monday... 2 sleeps to go :smiliedance:

[Lateralus]

:hissy: NO FAIR NO FAIR NO FAIR

Our babysitter has just cancelled because her daughter has chicken pox. F&$ing typical of our luck lately. I was SO looking forwards to spending some time out alone (sans baby) with DH tonight. :crying:

[quitecontrary]

Kate where's the party? Can you take Z with her rainforest thingummygig and a travelcot to put in the corner somewhere? What a royal PITA - is there anyone else you can call on in your hour of need?
Thanks for the hints on coping with babies and antibiotics!

[Lateralus]

we are thinking of taking her with us if she's in a good mood, otherwise DH is going to stay at home with her & I will go.

I feel guilty now because I should be feeling sorry for my friends kid sick with chicken pox - instead I have a bad case of the 'poor me's' :o

[quitecontrary]

I hope you take her Kate, by the sounds of it she loves company and you all deserve a bit of fun! Put her in a white bonds gro-suit and she'll look the part too! Your pal is probably feeling sorry for you and guilty too.
Yes, this is the QC and Kate thread this afternoon! Anyone else is free to join us!!
We went out into the city today, down to the Quay to catch a ferry! Any ferry would do the trick, but we caught one that ended up being a big romantic "walk" down memory lane for dh and I to Mosman. When we started dating he lived at Neutral Bay so that whole area is just so "lovely" for us! G had a great old time, T relaxed, slept and fed - and we all had lunch at the cafe on the wharf over there, and gelato at the Quay on the return. Such a lovely day!
Now I'm home with a sleeping Toby whilst G and dh do their hunter gatherer routine at the supermarket! Not a bad life really!

[zephani]

KJ I hope you were able to go out tonight and have a good time.

AFU We are in Nowra tonight for a quick overnight visit and to attend the memorial service of a friend of ours. Katherine travelled well as usual and only got grumpy when it was too bright and noisy at the club for her to go to sleep when we went out for dinner.

We were also able to catch up with a friend of mine whose baby is 1 month old. He is gorgeous and seems so tiny next to Katherine. We are going back to see them before we head home tomorrow.

Dinner with my former step mother went well. A few things she said annoyed me, especially when she brought up my father and sister, but I ignored her and discussed my feelings with DH later. The one thing that upset me was that she got to meet Katherine and unfortunately my Dad never will.

I started introducing Katherine to cooled boiled water. Her solids have been dry the last couple of days so I thought this would help. I offered her two bottles of 20mls of water. One about 10am and one about 2pm, so in between her breakfast and lunch time bottle, and then again in between her lunch time and afternoon bottle.

Has anyone else introduced water to their LO? If yes, how much are you offering? Does it sound like I am offering Katherine too much? I want it to be enough without it cutting down her bottles. Do you offer it to them in a sippy cup or in a bottle? Today I gave it to her in a small bottle, but I plan to introduce a sippy cup at 6 months. I bought four of the Avent ones on special in Kmart a fortnight ago for $9.

I think I'm going to go and read for a while. Hope everyone is having a good night.

[parentingrocks]

Hi ladies,

been reading mostly lately and not posting much. had a few rough nights with an unsettled Charli - I need to ask you all a q about this because I think it has to do with her solids.
I feel she is ready for solids.. she is 5 1/2 months old and for weeks and weeks has been grabbing at our food and knives/fork etc - she has shown every sign of readiness but food seems to upset her stomach- she ends up with terrible wind and she ends up been woken up by the pain several times per night. When we gave her rice cereal (tried several brands) all had the same affect, and then tried vegies, and vegies with a little pear or apple through it (to make it slighly more appealing) and same again - up all night with wind pain, farting etc etc etc.. today I decided NO SOLIDS just milk and see how she goes at night - well its still early days but I just gave her a bottle and put her in bed awake (still even hadn't seen a tired sign) and she just lied in her cot and just eventually closed her eyes without a peep - amazingm so different to every otyher night recently when she has been thrashing around and taken ages to finally settle with a lot of crying. SO MY QUESTION is obviously has anyone ever experienced or heard of this???? what do I do!! I need her to start solids because she is at the age where they need to (its only like a week and a half til she's 6 months) plus she is showing such readiness. I'm so torn. I hate when these things happen. I'm doing my best to make sure she is ready, prepare the foods myslef etc etc and now this bad reaction to it. very annoying.

Zeph - I give Charli water every now and again from a 'Nuby' Sippie cup and she just has a bit hear and there - I offer it in a bottle and she wont have it because she sees the bottle and thinks its milk so as soon as she tastes it she spits it out (in dissapointment!).. so I tried this sippie cup so she would hopefully realise its something different and so far so good - the Nuby brand one is good because they still need to suck and clamp down on the teat part to get the liquid out, and because of that it is a 'no spill' one.. so great for them to play with it to get used to the whole idea without water going everywhere. Not sure how much is too much water but I just make sure (as I know you are) that I don't offer too close too other bottles - like an hour later or something. She's never drunk too much anyway, only about 10mls at a time and I just offer it to her a few times a day.

Well I best be off. I really hope after a day of no solids for Charli that she (and I!) sleep better.

Kate - really hope you got a night out!! Hope you are partying as I type!!

Night all

xxx

[floodprincess]

Morning Feb Mummas!!!

I'm still in the land of the living and feeling almost back to normal.....went to see the Dr Friday and was already feeling better (fever/chills had gone as had the headache).

But he prescribed a course of antibiotics (as we knew he would) and sent me packing....was beginning to feel really good yesterday, but this morning the boob is aching again (different spot this time)...if it doesn't settle down with the antibiotics after a few days, I'll go back.

Thanks for all your thoughts and advice!!

So, how is everyone else going? Solsen, sorry I can't help, both my babies show no sign of food intolerances (unless you count not wanting to eat or not liking anything an intolerance??) but all jokes aside, I hope you work it out!

Kate, one more sleep, you must be getting excited - feeling up to going? I remember you were feeling a bit crook last I was here. I'll keep your tip re the probiotics in mind too!

QC sounds like you had a great day, it was the perfect weather for it!

Anyway, I'd love to do more personals, but gotta rouse on DH and DD1 for dragging their heels, we're off to see the alpacas today and gauge their fitness for mating (well the girls anyway).

Oh, one more thing before I go.....Facebook has cancelled my account for impersonating myself :rolleyes: so I've set up a temporary one! If you don't mind the seemingly ongoing saga of adding me every couple of weeks I'll find you all again and request an add!! I'm going to start a poll and take bets as to how long this profile might last!! :)

Have a great day! Talk more tonight....

[gizmoduckus]

KateJo - What a big disappointment for you. I hope that you still managed to get out.
quitecontrary - You always amaze me. You sound like you are always out and about with the two kids. I don't know how you have the energy to do it.
zephani - I am glad that dinner with your former stepmother went better than you expected. Don't worry about the little comments she made. By the sounds of it, she isn't worth the bother. As for introducing water, I think that you do it during their solids feed. They don't really need too much at this age because they are getting a lot of fluids from their milk. Sippy cups are probably the best thing to give them water in because it seperates what is their milk and what is their water.
Solsen - Sorry I don't have any advice for you either. I have never heard of that happening to anyone else.
floodprincess - Glad you are feeling better.

AFU, I tried L on solids again and he finally accepted it. Yay! He really likes Raffertys rice cereal so I will stick with that for awhile and then slowly start indrocing fruit and veg again.

We finally had a child-free night last night. One of the high up managers at DH's work organises a charity event every year to raise money for water aid. He gets all of the contractors that deal with their company to buy tables so we got a free invitation from one of the contractors that deals with DH. At $200 a ticket it was very much appreciated. Unfortunately I wasn't feeling the best so I didn't enjoy as much as I should have. :(

Anyway I better be off. DS1 and DH will be home soon from swimming lessons so I should look like I was actually doing things instead of sitting in front of the computer all morning. :D

[2boyoboys]

Hi ladies,

been reading mostly lately and not posting much. had a few rough nights with an unsettled Charli - I need to ask you all a q about this because I think it has to do with her solids.
I feel she is ready for solids.. she is 5 1/2 months old and for weeks and weeks has been grabbing at our food and knives/fork etc - she has shown every sign of readiness but food seems to upset her stomach- she ends up with terrible wind and she ends up been woken up by the pain several times per night. When we gave her rice cereal (tried several brands) all had the same affect, and then tried vegies, and vegies with a little pear or apple through it (to make it slighly more appealing) and same again - up all night with wind pain, farting etc etc etc.. today I decided NO SOLIDS just milk and see how she goes at night - well its still early days but I just gave her a bottle and put her in bed awake (still even hadn't seen a tired sign) and she just lied in her cot and just eventually closed her eyes without a peep - amazingm so different to every otyher night recently when she has been thrashing around and taken ages to finally settle with a lot of crying. SO MY QUESTION is obviously has anyone ever experienced or heard of this???? what do I do!! I need her to start solids because she is at the age where they need to (its only like a week and a half til she's 6 months) plus she is showing such readiness. I'm so torn. I hate when these things happen. I'm doing my best to make sure she is ready, prepare the foods myslef etc etc and now this bad reaction to it. very annoying.


xxx

I would not give any more foods, and consult a doctor or your MCHN, if you want to her her involved in eating, maybe a rusk will give her the oral stimulation, with out the stomach upset.

but i def wouldnt be giving her any more, unless under medical advice. It can be so stressful to know what it right for u bub, but chances are she just wants what ur having- and thinks its a toy.

Good luck hun, but i would def be getting proffesional advice.

Sorry to everyone else, i have been reading whats going on but havnt had time to post. were off to the toy sale today- but im not sure what were going to buy 2 kids who have everything. :)

Good luck with the name days, feeding, jollyjumpers and everything else that is going on for everyone, i promise i will get better at posting and keeping up with everyone

[Lateralus]

morning all - well, I ended up going to the party and Dh stayed at home and looked after Zoe. Not the night out together we had planned, but I had fun at the party none the less. I ended up coming home fairly early because Zoe was refusing to take the bottle for a feed. DH managed to string her appetite out with a bit of rice cereal so she wasn't too famished by the time I got home. I guess we'll keep offering her the bottle from time to time to see whether she'll take it. Or maybe just progress straight to a cup. Knowing that she will take a bottle or a cup will give me that extra tiny bit of freedom, knowing that I don't HAVE to be home to give her some boob. :laughing: It wasn't so long ago that she was refusing the boob and ONLY wanted the bottle. My how times change :laughing:

FP hope the antibiotics continue to work their magic & that the mastitis clears up quickly!! Thinking of you!

Solsen Zoe gets a bit more farty with the introduction rice cereal but it doesn't seem to be causing her any discomfort. She seems to be quite amused by her new noisy habit! If she's particularly windy, I give her some Brauer's stomach calm and it seems to help her get the wind out more easily.

Giz :smiliedance: glad you had a lovely break and a night out kidlett free! Sorry to hear you weren't feeling the best though - hopefully you felt a little refreshed after your night out sans kids?!

[Lateralus]

oh, and A'smummy happy birthday for Tuesday... I won't be around to wish you a hapy birthday then happybirthday

[zephani]

We are back from our flying trip to Nowra. The memorial service for my friend was nice except Katherine decided to scream for about a quarter of it. The Church had a creche with a speaker in it so you could still hear the service so I took Katherine in there. It was really nice to catch up with people I hadn't seen for years.

Katherine did well on the trip although DH had to move her carseat to the right side of the car because we are both getting bad backs and shoulders from moving Katherine in and out. Do you think it is alright to have her on that side of the car?

As I mentioned on Facebook Katherine rolled over for the first time today. She's been trying for the last few weeks and last week she learnt to pull her hands out when we rolled her over. Today she put it all together and did it once by herself. She started smiling and was so happy with herself.

Gizmo Katherine really liked the Rafferty's Garden cereal. She hated Farex, but now we have her on Bellamy's Organic baby porridge. It's the same brand as the formula she is now on.

Kate I'm glad that you went out and had a good time, even if you had to come home early. One more sleep till sleep school. I hope that both you and Zoe are both feeling well and that she sleep school is a good experience for both of you.

FP I'm glad that you went to the Dr and got some antibiotics. Continuing to send you good thoughts and hoping that you start to feel better soon.

Find me and add me on Facebook.

[gizmoduckus]

Katherine did well on the trip although DH had to move her carseat to the right side of the car because we are both getting bad backs and shoulders from moving Katherine in and out. Do you think it is alright to have her on that side of the car?

It is fine. The middle is known to be the safest spot in the car but nothing is guaranteed. Just think, if you have another child then one child would definitely be in one of the side seats.

[sweetseven]

KJ Good to hear you still went out, pity it couldn't be babyfree like you had planned. And I understand the feeling guilty about being more sorry for yourself missing out on your babysitter, instead of soorry for her daughter suffering from chicken pox. However, it was a big thing thaat you were looking forward to, so your feelings are understandable.

FP Good to hear you went to the doctor, and I think you are lucky you managed to stay out of hospital. :goodvibes: I'm praying for your recovery to continue.

My bub has been getting sick of yoghurt, so I decided to give her some of dinner tonight (after passing it through the blender). She happily gobbled down some rice bollonaise

[readytogo]

just popping in to say hello!

been a mad few weeks with sick hubby, starting a new job on wed and just came back from QLD after visiting my parents where my dad taught Kayla to scream and blow raspberries needless to say it was an interesting flight home to Melb!

And for those wondering yes I still have a bad addiction to nappies, lol :D

[Purplebird]

I've probably missed you Kate, but best of luck for this week. I hope it all goes well and you manage to come back with a sleeping baby!

QC - well that sounds like a lovely day! At the moment Miss E is being a devil toddler so I don't think we'll be attempting to do much with her for a while. She has just decided she no longer needs a day sleep (even though she clearly does!). She is also waking early so she is down 3 hours sleep a day :eek:

Zeph - is there any way you could put Katherine in the middle of the car? That way you could climb across from either side to put her in. Just a thought. As for the water, I'm sure it's fine. I never bothered giving any to DD until she was nearer 9 months, but she was still b'feeding a lot.

We had a nice weekend catching up with friends and also going to a 1 year old birthday party. Good fun!

I also have to try and get Cam used to a bottle as I have a hen's party, a kitchen tea and a wedding all coming up. It's a bit scary knowing I will be leaving him for the first time!

[Purplebird]

just popping in to say hello!

been a mad few weeks with sick hubby, starting a new job on wed and just came back from QLD after visiting my parents where my dad taught Kayla to scream and blow raspberries needless to say it was an interesting flight home to Melb!

And for those wondering yes I still have a bad addiction to nappies, lol :D

Hi RTG :wave: How many nappies now??! Hope you and Kayla are well.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Good Morning lovely Feb ladies!!!

I had a pretty good nights sleep for the first time since R has been with us - after having his 2nd taste of pureed pear -he had the first tiny bit on Friday night about a quarter of a teaspoon and had about a 2 teaspoons last night- I woke in a puddle because he decided to sleep from 7pm till 5-30am which would have been fantastic if Z hadn't needed to wee at 4am but still heaps better than the up every 2-4 hours:smiliedance::smiliedance: fingers crossed it wasn't a fluke!

As I posted on FB I am back to parenting solo again it was lovely to have DH home for almost 2 days (from Fri arvo till Sun morning) not long enough but better than nothing and they are hoping to be back on the 3rd too so hopefully it is for a day or so then too. I think poor old DH is getting a bit sad about missing out on so much of the kids and is worried that he won't bond with R as well as he did with Z he was home every night for the first 8 months of her life as we were in Melb. He mentioned going to back to Melb which would be good and bad I don't know what he really wants to do I think he is just feeling that he is missing out but logically he wants to stay at see for another year or so so that we can pay off the car and start saving for a house, it is just sooooo hard to know what the best thing is esp cause he loves being at sea too!

Anyway enough moping!

RTG - glad you still have your addiction - you better be planning on adding to your family so that you get lots of use out of all these nappies.
T3 - Go bubs
Zeph - R is on the Drivers side and has been since the word go, Z is on the passenger side as it is easier for her to get in and out safely from that side DH has a theory that the drivers side is as safe if not safer than other places as your instincts are to keep yourself (the driver) out of danger. Plus what people don't think about the danger of things coming through the front window when they pop kids in the middle - esp with lovely little rats throwing stuff of overpasses at cars.:no:
Solsen - I have only just started giving R some pear he will be 5 months on the 1st (although weeks wise he is there already 23 weeks) I was planning on holding out till 6 months but he too has been showing signs of being ready and loved it esp last night. I am going with a little bit every 2nd night for a bit to see how he goes I avoided the cereal altogether and went with pureed pear as his first food and so far so good no reactions or anything.
For your little one I would go back to basics and try just a tiny bit of either pear or apple rather than veges or rice cereal and keep to one food at a time for ages remember they have been having just BM/Formula for 5-6 months so they don't know any different the variety comes after they have the hang of solids (IMO anyway) I would be seeking some advice too though. Oh and don't forget there is no hard and fast rule with solids 6 months is a guideline not an absoloute if you wait a bit longer it is not going to do any harm:hugs:

[zephani]

After two nights of sleeping through Katherine decided to wake twice last night :sleeping: Friday night she slept from 7pm to 8am and then on Saturday night she slept from 8pm to 6am had a feed and then went back to bed till 9am. Two great nights of sleep for me. Then last night she slept from 7pm till 11pm and then 11:30pm till 5am and then 5:30am till 8am. So she still had a lot of sleep but I have a lot of trouble getting back to sleep after putting her back to bed from a fed.

I should go and have some breakfast. WIll check back later in the day.

[A'sMummy]

Morning all!
KJ- Thank you for your bday wishes! I have been trying to lay low but facebook tells everyone when my bday is :laughing:. I am 27 tomorrow! Getting old and closer to 30!! :p
I hope you have a fantastic week at sleep school. I will be thinking of you, your DH and little Zoe all week. Look forward to hearing all about it when you return :hugs:
Zeph- I hope the sleeping through continues again for you! We have got Anya back down to 1-2 feeds per a night... MUCH better than a month ago, but would love to have a once off all nighter.
SS- :hugs:to single parenting again. I hope it goes quickly before you see your DH again!

[Seacretsquirrel]

After two nights of sleeping through Katherine decided to wake twice last night :sleeping: Friday night she slept from 7pm to 8am and then on Saturday night she slept from 8pm to 6am had a feed and then went back to bed till 9am. Two great nights of sleep for me. Then last night she slept from 7pm till 11pm and then 11:30pm till 5am and then 5:30am till 8am. So she still had a lot of sleep but I have a lot of trouble getting back to sleep after putting her back to bed from a fed.

I should go and have some breakfast. WIll check back later in the day.

Zeph - where do you feed her when she wakes?
I found both kids are great at settling over night but I never turned on any lights, no watching TV or popping on the computer or anything we did the feed and if she needed a change that was done in pretty much the dark too (just used her night light to see by)I have found that they go back to sleep fairly well with this technique. A GF used ot sit watching TV while she fed her DS and would find she was up for ages trying to settle and get him back to bed, when I told her what I did she tried it and found it much better and she was back in bed heaps faster too!
ETA - thanks A's mummy

[zephani]

Zeph - where do you feed her when she wakes?

I turn the hallway light on so I've got enough light to see in her room and my room. I change her on her change table and then bring her in to my bed to feed her. After a burp I carry her back to her room and she puts herself back to sleep.

Unfortunately I'm the one that has troubles going back to sleep not her.

[A'sMummy]

Unfortunately I'm the one that has troubles going back to sleep not her.

Zeph- I know the feeling! It's terrible isn't it!? Anya wakes up and has a 10min feed and falls straight back to sleep, but then I lay there awake for another hour after that :sleeping:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Ahhhh sorry I misread your post! - hmmm perhaps feeding her in her room might make it a faster stint for you as you are not walking from one room to another which wakes you up more. hmmm other than that perhaps limiting coffee/tea/coke etc (if you are drinking it) other than that I don't think I can help much!

[zephani]

am 27 tomorrow! Getting old and closer to 30!! :p

happybirthday for tomorrow. I remember turning 27. I feel so old. I can't believe that on my next birthday I will be 33 :thumbsdown:

[zephani]

Katherine LOVES peas and beans! She just had mashed peas, beans, potato and pumpkin for dinner. I know it sounds like a lot but she only had two tablespoons. I was worried about the peas because some made it through the holes of the potato masher but she sucked on them and swallowed them down. It will be interesting to see if they come out whole in her poos.

I made her breakfast and lunches today. She is having peach and apple for breakfast and pear and banana for lunch. She's taken to the water well although her poos have still been a little dry. So I'm hoping that they get smoother over the next few days.

Fingers crossed that she is back to sleeping through tonight and that she won't wake up twice.

[floodprincess]

Evening Ladies....

I think we're going well on the road to recovery! But I have a question for those of you who have been here before - did the mastitis and/or anitibiotics cause a general decrease in milk supply? I know that mastitis is caused by a blockage in the milk duct and therefore generally supply is lower in that side (hence why you are meant to feed more frequently from that side to clear the blockage and re-build supply) but I seem to have lost it everywhere! :( going to buy some fenugreek tomorrow and hope it helps (I know my supply is lowered because I think AF is coming back :( I was enjoying being without her)

Happy birthday for tomorrow A'smummy!!! Like Zeph, I remember turning 27, seems so long ago (there's not much age difference between us Zeph)

SS, I like your DH's theory - I have heard that drivers side theory before. But I too have concerns about projectiles through the windscreen.

Anyway, I must be off, have to figure out what else I can give M to try! She doesn't like broccoli, so migh try some cauliflower next, but Zeph, I like the sound of K's dinner tonight ;)

Am off to reclaim my facebook page! Will slowly get in touch with those of you I had as friends (just as soon as I find where I put my list) lol...

[Seacretsquirrel]

I love waking up to my wonderful DH esp when I wasn't expecting to see him until at least Monday and he turned up on my doorstep at 8pm last night!:smiliedance:
A'smummy - wishing you a very very happybirthday hope you get spoilt!

FP - Brocolli and cauliflower are very strong flavours and can cause wind too so don't be suprised if they are not a hit right away.

Zeph- yep you are likely to see the peas come through whole! - wait till you give dried fruit later on and they come through rehydrated!:laughing:

AFU -Riley seems to be taking to Apple and Pear with gusto :chef:(only having small amounts - about a tsp) but I am not sure if it is a coincedence but he has been sleeping heaps better - 7-ish through till 4-30/5am which is heaps better than is usual 7pm-10pm-midnight-3am-5am-8am routine that he has been running recently!
He also hopped himself up onto his hands and knees yesterday clever little man he is (usually he can get his legs up but his head is on the floor/bed) it is amazing how fast they are growing up!

anyway better go give him breakfast before he gets cranky!

[zephani]

A's Mum HAPPY BIRTHDAY HONEY! Hope you have a great day xxx

SS I'm so glad you got to see your DH, even if it was only for a few hours.

FP Miss K likes broccoli with sweet potato and potato.

AFU Miss K slept well again last night. Went to bed at 7pm and woke up at 7:45am. She started chatting to herself about 3am but I stayed in bed to see if she settled herself back to sleep, which she did. I would have got up if she cried or screamed. Do you think I did the wrong thing?

We are off to baby group this morning. Going to see how it goes today. If I feel like they are criticising me or putting me down I will sms DH and get him to ring me with an out. I don't want to sound up myself or anything but I think I've outgrown my baby group. It's not that I think I know more than them but K is not the average 5 month old.

Hope you all have a good day xxx

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

hi all

what a pleasant surprise SS, i hope you made the most of your time together (maybe thats why Riley slept better last night?)

FP elianna doesn't really like cauliflower OR brocolli but gobbles down pumpkin or sweet potato. not overly keen on avacado but will eat it eventually.

Zeph yay for Katherine sleeping! as i said on facebook,i am so jealous :yes:

happybirthdayA's mummy hope you have a lovely day

KJ i hope sleep school is going well...i'm only now beginign to appreciate what you've been going through- you are a superwoman!

afu
:crying: i'm so very tired, the last two nights i've had a grand total of 4 hours sleep, broken into 30-45 min naps. Elianna has a blocked nose, two more teeth breaking through and could very possibly be going though a growth spurt. she's so tired and hungry but can't eat cause of the blocked nose, can't seem to sleep without her dummy and can't suck on her dummy cause of the blocked nose. she has bright red cheeks from the teething but no real temperature so i've given her panadol a couple of times but i'm hesitant to over use it. When sh is asleep she bursts into tears for no known reason every 10 minutes or so (like she's having nightmares) and when she's awake she's not much happier. I WANT MY BABY BACK!!:hissy:
sorry for the :ecomcity: AF also returned yesterday, my supply is still crap, i've started putting ON weight and i feel awful :mad:
just had to let that out, i hope everyone is having a better time than me

take care
oxoxo Kath

[janiceg]

hello ladies!

happy birthday a's mummy! hope you have a super fab day and are spoiled rotten!

gonnabeaGR8mum, i hope you get some relief soon! with bubs not sleeping just remember it will end (that's what i tell myself anyways!!) poor little thing - do you have a snot sucker? and it doesn't help with AF in town! i got mine back about two months ago

zephani, good on miss k for sleeping so long! what's your secret?

floodprincess, get well soon!

Seacretsquirrel, yay for hubbys coming home!! so exciting! sorry it had to end so soon!

afu - dd is the happiest little girl! but also the hungriest!! for a meal she will happily eat a whole avocado/banana/potato or whatever i give her and still want more! i limit her to 1/2cup of mushed fruit or veg at each meal although she is still hungry so i breastfeed her. think she is actually breastfeeding more since we started solids! should i give her more until she is full or keep limiting? she is average height and weight so i'm hoping what i'm doing is ok.
dd is also sitting up all by herself and rarely topples over! it's amazing the change in just a week or so! she can crawl backwards but gets really frustrated as she knows she's going further away from what she's after! lol!

[zephani]

GBAGM :hugs:, :kiss: and more :hugs:. I'm sorry everything is happening at once for you. You are in Newcastle right? I'm in Blue Haven which is only about 40 minutes away. We should organise to meet up.

janiceg Thank you so much for suggestion of the fridge to go. I bought a coolzie and a small lunch box. The coolzie goes in my nappy bag and the small lunch means I can take my own home made food when we go away. We went away over night on Saturday. I packed Saturday and Sunday's food and they were still cool at tea time on Sunday.

There is no secret with Katherine sleeping. Although she hasn't been having day sleeps for the last three or four days. So maybe when she goes to bed she is totally exhausted.

I'm glad to hear someone else has a hungry baby. How many solid meals a day is your DD having? There was a thread in the weaning and solids thread saying that you should feed till your LO is full but I limit Katherine to three tablespoons but she is over the 100th percentile for weight and height.

[quitecontrary]

Firstly - Happy Birthday to A's Mummy! - don't stress about turning 27 - you are going to have wonderful year!!
GBAGM you and Eli will get through all this, even though it is so awful at the moment.
Zeph hope Katherine gets some day sleeps in too! Don't feel bad about leaving a happy baby to their own devices at 3am! Thats when T still likes a chatter or a whinge in memory of being fed at that time, and dh usually just puts his dummy in and thats that. We wouldn't bother doing that if he wasn't in our room. He also has a habit of kicking off his covers so he gets his blanket back then too if necessary.
Yes, they say with solids to keep feeding the baby until the baby stops eating - I remember one of my mother's group friends listing what her dd ate when she did this!!
All is fine here, both the kids are napping though I am sure one of them will start calling my name before too long. We were off to fairy ballet at mid-day which is an atrocious time for Miss G, she was very sooky and clingy but I think she did enjoy it when she got off my lap. Toby was out in the waiting room being passed around by the other mums, very calm and patient he was from all accounts. Must've exhausted himself as he fell asleep almost instantaneously when he got in the pram for the walk home!

[A'sMummy]

Just a quicky from me today.
Thank you everyone so much for your lovely birthday messages!!! :hugs: Hugs to you all, you all make me feel so special and bring a smile to my face :flowerz:
I have had a good day so far, done VERY little work, went shopping, had coffee with R2G, and now just relaxing around the house. :cloud9:

:hugs: to GBAGM. I hope you get some rest soon!
SS :smiliedance:Yay for hubby dropping by, must of been a lovely night ;).

[Seacretsquirrel]

A's mummy it was lovely to have him home but there was no ;)ing going on but I did get cuddles and p-nut M&Ms:D

[parentingrocks]

Hi everyone

hope you are all weel. happy birthday to a'smummy for yesterday (ithink?)! hope you ahd a great day.

:hugs::hugs::hugs: to GBAGM - I feel exactly the same at times. I hate it when everything just happens at once!

Now someone please tell me what does AF stand for?? I know it must mean period but I can't for the life of me figure out what the A and the F must stand for.

Charli is still waking randomly at nights (I have stopped solids for the time being so can't be that) its just like she goes through those light phases of sleep and wakes completely up, and all it takes is a dummy or a stroke on the forehead and shes back asleep, but its happening quite a few times throughout the night and I'm so sick of getting up and attending to her!!!! sorry if that sounds horrible but I'm so tired :crying:
I don't know why she won't self settle.. I put her down in her cot while shes awake (just after I see a tired sign) and she sometimes goes to sleep straight away, but most the times will cry and grizzle for a while then I just go in and out the dummy in and pat her tummy and she's out, so I feel like I'm doing it properly but its just when she wakes up during the night she won't self settle - every time I have to go in and help her. ANY ADVICE??? Sorry to say it again.. but I'm so tired :crying:

Anyway, we are having a quiet day today (because thats all I can gather energy for) just keeping the washing going ... eerrgghh... sorting, stain removing, washing, putting on clothes horse, folding, ironing.... and it never ends... PLUS (pleas be sympathetic..) my laundry is outside!! and I live in melbourne (so its cold!)... so every load I have to race down the backyard to my laundry (which is sort of under the house-hard to explain on here) its horrible!
Sorry can you tell I feel like crap today :gloomy:

ok enough of the sad story from me I'm off to get things done.

Hope you all have a good day
xxx

[A'sMummy]

SS- LOL I like peanut M&Ms better than ;) anyway hehehehe
Solsen-:hugs: I can feel your pain, Anya has had 2 months of waking 3-7 times per a night after almost sleeping through. We have only now got it back to once per a night again. I found the trick with her was to pretty much offer her a feed every time she woke up and just to fill her belly a little would make her last a few more hours rather than just 1 hour. At first I started putting the dummy in and she would only sleep for another hour. Then when I started feeding her at each wake and I then got atleast another 3 hours in between wakes. Now we are back to only one wake up and feed per night. Probably different with every baby though! Who knows WHAT they want half the time :o Not sure if Anya was going through a VERY long growth spurt for 2 months or what it was?! I hope Charli improves soon :hugs:

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

firstly thanks everyone for the hugs and support, i don't know what i'd do without you all!


Now someone please tell me what does AF stand for?? I know it must mean period but I can't for the life of me figure out what the A and the F must stand for.

AF stands for "Aunt Flo" you know.. the unwelcome visitor who comes uninvited and stays longer than you want :D



I don't know why she won't self settle.. I put her down in her cot while shes awake (just after I see a tired sign) and she sometimes goes to sleep straight away, but most the times will cry and grizzle for a while then I just go in and out the dummy in and pat her tummy and she's out, so I feel like I'm doing it properly but its just when she wakes up during the night she won't self settle - every time I have to go in and help her. ANY ADVICE??? Sorry to say it again.. but I'm so tired

:hugs: i know just how you feel, so i did some research (aka googling) apparently at 4 months our bubs start to sleep more like an adult's sleeping patterns and their light phases of sleep can often cause them to wake up. i think my problem is Elianna is still wrapped and given a dummy as her cues to go to sleep. the dummy falls out when she goes into a deeper sleep and when she enters the light phase and goes to suck on it to go to sleep it isn't there so she wakes up- now if she wasn't wrapped she may be able to put it back in herself...but she won't sleep unwrapped :hair: i tried just putting the dummy back in and found she'd sleep an extra 45- 1hr (exactly one sleep cycle) but would wake for the same reason, so i took to feeding her again...hoping that it just a growth spurt but if thats the case she's been having it for nearly 2 months now (so something tells me i have "taught her" to wake up for a feed now :() i'm loathe to let her cry it out in order to teach her to self settle but i'm not sure what else we can do :confused:




PLUS (pleas be sympathetic..) my laundry is outside!! and I live in melbourne (so its cold!)... so every load I have to race down the backyard to my laundry (which is sort of under the house-hard to explain on here) its horrible!



oh believe me i'm sympathetic...that would be awful! my laundry is in the bathroom and my clothesline is only just outside the back door on the verandah but i still put off the washing for as long as i can!

i hope your day improves:cool:


AFU
we had a slightly better night last night, only woke twice. i'm now wondering if it has anything to do with the fact that we skipped her solid meals yesterday? it seems this waking more regularly has started since we started solids, it doesn't seem to bother her at all but i'm wondering if we should stop for a while?

ok gotta run, missy moo wants a feed
i'll check in later
take care

[parentingrocks]

OMG GBAGM - everything you wrote then could have come frm my mouth - EXACTLY THE SAME AS ME!! Same issues with the dummy at night - but luckily I got CHarli off the wrapping... incase you want to give it a try I put Charli in a sleeping bag to wean off the wrapping but I pulled the arms of the sleeping bag inside itself and kept her arms inside the body of the sleeping bag.. it worked a treat and then after a few nights of that I put her arms in the arm holes (as normal) and just tucked her arms tight under the covers, now she can sleep in the sleeping bag arms anywhere no probs. I NEVER thought I'd get her off teh wrap and I tried wrapping her all differnet ways to wean her off it and this was the only thing that worked for us. Give it a go I swear by it.
Also - the solids things - us too - since starting she wakes more, but I think I have narrowed it down to Carrott not agreeing with her, she spewed it up after giving it to her yesterday and the last time I gave her some solids it was a sweet potato/carrot mix and her tummy gurgled all night. Poor bugga. I'm going to try banana with a bit of milk mixed in today and see how we go with that.
:hugs: hope we both find some solutions to our probs xxx

[quitecontrary]

Solsen and GBAGM hope you sort out your sleeping dramas soon. Sorry I don't have any advice on the dummy thing. Toby just spits it out usually anyway. He does usually have one wakeful period each night and dh pops him back under the covers and the dummy back in - but this morning it was at 5 so I fed him and he went back to sleep til after 8 - and so did I after G had had her time in bed with us. I needed a bit more sleep - training T to sleep through has been fine, I just need to train myself not to need to go to the toilet at the time I used to wake up to feed him!!
Oh, I know what friends used to do with the dummys - a couple of my friends used to put all their baby's dummies in the cot when they put the baby to bed, then the bub could just find themselves a dummy when needed! A little bit older than our bubs, but not that much.

[gonnabeaGR8mum]

Oh, I know what friends used to do with the dummys - a couple of my friends used to put all their baby's dummies in the cot when they put the baby to bed, then the bub could just find themselves a dummy when needed! A little bit older than our bubs, but not that much.

thats not such a bad idea, a remember a couple of weeks back i put Eli down for a day nap (sucking on her daytime dummy) and left her "nightime dummy" in the cot, i heard her stirring but thought i'd leave her to see if she'd settle, which she did. but when i went in to check on her she has wriggled herself backwards (arms still wrapped) up the cot and managed to suck her nightime dummy into her mouth (i later discovered her daytime dummy under her back) - i was so impressed with her cleverness but she hasn't done it since....maybe i need to put more dummies in there?:cool:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Not sure I am much help with the Dummy thing either Riley doesn't take it back if I have to get up and feed him and he won't settle with out a feed in the middle of the night. He has actually been better since starting solids - I was getting up 3-4 times a night and having to feed cause he wouldn't settle with the dummy (and he certainly doesn't need the extra calories!:D) But since we have had a little bit (about a tsp) of apple or pear he has been much better the first 2 nights he slept from 7.30 till 5am then slept again till 8 but last night he woke at 2am as well but settled straight away after a feed (I tried the dummy but he wouldn't take it!)
Hopefully he will have a good night tonight cause I am back to feeling like poo again I have a splitting headache that panadol isn't helping and even an hour or so of sleep hasn't helped (I was even so asleep I was dreaming :sleeping:)

ANy hoo I better be off hope everyones days improve will pop back to night to catch up properly!:wave:

[ardora]

Well, hello everyone and, once again, I have been MIA... so no many personals! I have had trouble catching up with the reading and all the news are now mixed in my head... so :wave: to everyone and :hugs: to everyone that needs it!

I don't remember when was the last time I posted but we went to Adelaide for a week and then we have had friends from overseas staying in Sydney and because I am only working two days a week at the moment, I dedicated the rest of my time to be a tourist guide! we went everywhere, including a short hike in the Blue Mountains and G has been an excellent traveller. It made me think back of when my parents were here and we did all those trips around when G was very little... ferry (I do remember QC saying that she loves the ferries...so do I!! ) to Manly at 7 days, Blue Mountains at 8 days, Northern Beaches at 10.... and I did all the driving!! Anyway, it was lovely to do it all again, I really enjoy going around and G has taken to sleep in the car; in fact, his best day sleeps are there!! We are planning a weekend down the south coast soon... looking forward!!

Sleeping- G is slowly learning to sleep through the night; there are a few putting-the-dummy back moments but it is pretty good... only consequence is that I am now trying to figure out his day routine again... never ending !! :rolleyes:

Eating - well it seems that G was hungry!! I sarted feeding him a bit of solids, carrot, sweet potato and the like and he not only loves it but he sleeps better!! today he tried apple and he is not really sure about it :D

Nappies - really happy I found out that you can buy pampers in sydney now!!! they are so good, nice and light and they stay dry!! (kind of like the new sanitary pads for women)

And DH and I are out ona date tonight- some good friends are staying home with G and we are going out for dinner because it is our anniversary :valentine:

Welll.... enough talking, what a post!!! I will try my best to keep in touch this time...

Have a great night of sleep :goodvibes:

[zephani]

GBAGM We put K to bed in a sleeping bag too and she isn't wrapped. We weaned her off wrapping by wrapping her fully, then wrapping her like a cummabund (sp?) around her waist with both arms in, then the same with only one arm in, then the same with no arms in, and then eventually no wrapping at all.

SS I hope your headache gets better. Fingers crossed for a good nights sleep again.

AFU As I mentioned on FB I went to the Pumpkin Patch sale today and bought K a skirt for 60% off :yelclap: GBAGM pointed me to the PP Online Outlet store and now I want to buy everything :yes: I'll have to wait and see what I get in my tax return :D

I had to buy K new socks today and it feels like her feet have grown over an inch in the last few weeks. She is now wearing size 1 - 3 socks. I can't believe how much she has grown! She is only 5 months, but is wearing toddler nappies, size 0 clothes (separates), size 1 all in ones (jumpsuits with feet) and now size 1 - 3 socks.

K slept 12 hours again last night. 7pm - 7am. The problem is she isn't sleeping during the day. Today she has had two 30 minutes sleeps. Last night she was so exhausted because she hadn't slept during the day that she was struggling to keep her eyes open at 7pm. Now I can't decide whether I like her sleeping all night or whether I like her having day sleeps as well. Problems I know :laughing:

Today she has been really whingy, red faced, very dribbley and has come up with a small pimpley rash on her chin. Do you think that is because she is teething? Is there anything other than bonjela teething gel and cuddles that I can do?

We've just ordered pizza for dinner as I can't be bothered cooking. It totally defeats me going to the gym today but bah .

Should go get K's dinner before she screams the house down. Tonight she is having peas, beans, pumpkin and potato.

[zephani]

Another quick question...

Can you/have you washed your bottles in the dishwasher?

If you have, do you worry that they aren't sterilised?

Or wonder what's in the dish washing liquid and if it is bad for your bottles and baby?

We bought a dish washer today and a rack for washing teats etc:yelclap:

[Seacretsquirrel]

Ardora - Yippeee for date night - I would love one of those but DH needs to be home for that:laughing:

Zeph - I wash R's sippy cup and dummies in the dishwasher - Sippy cup on the top shelf and the dummies in the cuttlery thingo! Ours does a 85 degree rinse and then blows hot air at them till they are dry so that should get rid of most of the nasties (or so I believe!) as for the washing stuff I figure after that hot rinse there shouldn't be any/much residue left certainly no more than washing by hand.

Off to read stories so see you later!

[Purplebird]

Yep, I wash sippy cups and dummies in the dishwasher too.

Zeph - we do very badly in the day sleeps department too. Unfortunately I don't get the pay off at night instead! Cameron rarely sleeps past 40 minutes and if I try and resettle him it only works about 1 time in 10. DD was like this though - they do improve a little when they start moving around and getting more tired.

SS- hope the headache has gone.

Ardora - belated Happy Anniversary. We had ours on the 13th. We actually got married on Friday 13th because we thought it was funny!

Well, Cameron has finally decided to roll :yelclap: Bit slow but we got there!

I better go and get showered. I am DD free today so Cam and I are going to visit friends. He really doesn't sleep much if we're out and about though, so I have to keep trips out fairly brief. It's really strange - he likes the Ergo ( waves his arms and legs and smiles when he sees it), but he will not sleep in it unless you do a very long march and jiggle thing, which is very embarrassing if you're out in public!

[zephani]

K slept 12 hours straight again last night and now she is laying on her playmat whinging. I did rock her to sleep but she slept for 20 minutes. Hopefully she will get so tired at Gymbaroo this afternoon that she will fall asleep this afternoon. She is joining the 6 - 12 month group today (she is 6 months in just over a fortnight) and the session goes for 15 minutes longer than she is used.

GBAGM Thanks for the suggestion of the Pumpkin Patch Online Outlet store. I bought 4 items for K today and it cost me $61 including postage. The best part though was that it saved me $53! I've bookmarked the page so I can keep going back. I love PP clothes but can only afford to buy them off eBay. But this store has them even cheaper than that!

SS How's the headache? Hopefully you had a good night.

PB K is very slow at rolling too. She has only done it twice by herself. Enjoy your DD free day.

AFM I think I may have pulled a muscle in my arm. I was carrying K around while we were shopping yesterday and didn't realise just how heavy she was getting. I've taken some nurofean plus but I can still hardly lift it. It will be interesting holding K for 45 minutes at kindygym. I doubt I will be going to the gym myself this afternoon.

[Seacretsquirrel]

Hey guys!
Thanks for the headache wishes it did go eventually!
R woke at 2am but I refused to feed him so it was an hour of patting till he settled but he did finally get there!

We had a lovely day shopping with a GF today:yelclap: I spent far to much as usual but I got a longsleeve t from PP for each ratbag - for when we go to Brisbane in Sept and a cute singlet for Z too! 3 things for $40 so not too bad! I also got some crafty bits for Z too so she can do that when I want to do some scrapbooking (fingers crossed I actually get some motivation to do some more) Riley is pretty good he rolls all over the place these days round ing circles and over and over and an odd combo of both! he is nearly commando crawling and has started doing the going backwards thing that used to frustrate the heck out of Zahlia. he also sat up for about 40 secs yesterday which was pretty good. We also bought him a bath seat which worked really well in the bottom of the shower and hopefully it will mean I can have them both in the big bath at once without breaking my back trying to hold R upright!
off to make something for Z's dinner (oh and wipe her bot bot apparently:cool:)