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Pax
22-06-2009, 10:13
I have only had my baby immunised once...

she is overdue for her second and I am going through the fear of doing it all over again.

All the information i have read over the last few years against immunising has just really affected my ability to be confident and go ahead with it.

my other 4 kids were fine, bar DD2 had a breathing issue with her first. I dont know why i am getting all nervous with this child.

Is the second any more dangerous than the first? Are any - more dangerous than other other?

LittleBug'sMum
22-06-2009, 10:24
As far as I know, all the vaccines given at 6 months the baby has had before, they are all just boosters of the ones given at 2 and 4 months. So if they haven't had a reaction to the 2 and 4 month injections I would think it would be unusual for them to have a reaction to the 6 month vaccines. But still important for them to have it (even though they are just boosters) as they may not be properly protected if they were to only have the 2 and 4 month ones without the 6 month boosters.
I think new vaccines are given at 12 months (MMR, Meningococcal). It may vary from state to state though.
Hope that is helpful :).

MummasPrinces
22-06-2009, 10:33
The nurse who does my kid's needles has told us that the 2 month, 4 month and 6 months shots and syrup are all the same thing! :thumbsup:

JabberJaw
22-06-2009, 10:36
No, the 6 month one is the same as the previous ones, they just give it in small amounts over the time, so as not to overload bubs system.

The one that people usually have qualms with is the 12 month MMR one. It is the one that is always scrutinized with links to autism etc. But it no longer contains thimerosal, which seems to be where the initial link come from anyhow. My kids have never had dramas with it, other than a little swelling at the site, and a bit grumpy for a day or 2 following the shot.

But if bub had no problem with the last injection, all should be ok this time because it is the same vaxx.

Its hard hey? Kind of a damned if you do damned if you dont situation. I am pro vaxx and always question my decision too. But for me, i would hate to loose a child from a vaxx preventable disease so it makes my decision realativly easy.

Good Luck.

Miriam
22-06-2009, 11:03
The vaxes that will be given to your baby will all be exactly the same as the first lot.

They are:

Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis
hepatitis B
poliomyelitis
Haemophilus influenzae type b
Pneumococcal
Rotavirus


Here are the Package inserts:

Infanrix Hexa - http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcmed.nsf/pages/gwcinfih/$File/gwcinfih.pdf

Prevenar - http://www.wyeth.com/content/showlabeling.asp?id=134

Rotateq - http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/rotateq/rotateq_pi.pdf



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Pax
22-06-2009, 12:39
thanks ladies...

i have never been good with needles for the kids. prior to learning the bad stuff about vax, it was just the pain factor that really upset me for them.

something about deliberating allowing your child to get hurt doesnt appeal to me.

well just have to bite the bullet and do it.:yes:

gotmilk
22-06-2009, 20:59
...something about deliberating allowing your child to get hurt doesnt appeal to me.

well just have to bite the bullet and do it.:yes:

Maybe try Emla patch or cream?
I am also very distressed after my bub has needles:(...
I applied Emla patch last time but silly me:o put it in the wrong place so it did not help...
But next time I'll make sure I attach it where it suppose to be

Pax
22-06-2009, 23:48
Maybe try Emla patch or cream?
I am also very distressed after my bub has needles:(...
I applied Emla patch last time but silly me:o put it in the wrong place so it did not help...
But next time I'll make sure I attach it where it suppose to be

where do you get them from?

gotmilk
23-06-2009, 00:01
chemist

Pax
23-06-2009, 00:02
thank you :hugs:

gotmilk
23-06-2009, 00:08
not a prob
those who used them swear by them so I am defenetly going to give them a try again:)
I hope they work for your bub as well:wave:

PunkyDiva
23-06-2009, 00:20
Please read this info leaflet on Emla patches from the manufacturer, before use, as research on using it with vaccination is not complete. Scroll down to "What medication is used for".
http://www.astrazeneca.ca/documents/ProductPortfolio/EMLA_CIL_en.pdf

I prefer to give my child a dose of Bach Flower/Rescue Remedy to keep them calm and possibly an ice pack to numb beforehand and reduce swelling/pain etc afterwards.
I always choose to have it in their bum or thigh where there's more fat layer to protect against bruising.

Nowhere
23-06-2009, 00:25
thanks ladies...

i have never been good with needles for the kids. prior to learning the bad stuff about vax, it was just the pain factor that really upset me for them.

something about deliberating allowing your child to get hurt doesnt appeal to me.

well just have to bite the bullet and do it.:yes:

HUGS itss horible haqving to hold your child down to have there shots never nice

Miki has them daily now and I have to inject her that totaly sucks to the added bonus i gues wil be if she has any more immunisations she wont be bothered

Pax
23-06-2009, 00:30
HUGS itss horible haqving to hold your child down to have there shots never nice

Miki has them daily now and I have to inject her that totaly sucks to the added bonus i gues wil be if she has any more immunisations she wont be bothered

Jeez Mikenzees.. You must be so strong and determined to mother your kid.

I am proud to know you even though it is just online.

it takes a strong person to have to inject their child everyday :hugs:

BabelFish
23-06-2009, 00:57
I can understand the not wanting to deliberately hurt my child - this reminded me of that other thread and it's one of the reasons I won't get her ears pierced before she asks me - but if you weigh up the good and the bad - they forget about it so quickly and it's really for the greater good. Having a vaccination is over momentarily, and overall is for their own good and their own health. So yes, you are allowing someone to inflict pain on them, but the benefits in this case outweigh the pain of the needle, and there are also things you can get to help numb the spot anyway.

belonna
23-06-2009, 11:36
Yes there's a lot of disinformation out there. There's no peer reviewed evidence put forward from them - I would trust peer reviewed biological science over anti-vaxxers any day of the week. If they don't have at least a Doctorate in Biology they aren't worth listening to. If you have claims, you need to back it up with evidence that is then peer reviewed (scrutinized by the scientific community, pulled apart and challenged from every angle before it can be accepted). If they did this, then they would have a case. It's how the scientific world works, and these scare-tactic sites conveniently excuse themselves from the necessity of going through the process. A lot of it is run purely on emotion for some and greed for others which is a big mistake to begin with. Same as the homeopaths and what not who claim this and that without backing it up with evidence. You're not going to beat a serious viral infectious disease with flower essences, vitamins, minerals and herbs and anyone that says you can is simply ignorant. They don't interact with one another and therefore can have no effect on a viral infectious disease that you have no natural immunity to - even if you boost your immune system.

Sure there can be reactions, some bad - but far, FAR more people die or become permanently changed from regular prescription medicine than from vaccines.

The best advice you could get apart from your GP is to go and hear it from the people who study it every day. Plenty of immunology research facilities in the country, maybe there is one near you? Perhaps you could email them?

Yes it really sucks to have to hold them while they get a shot, I'm a needle phobe myself and it's upsetting for both of us. :( Glad there are some now which can be given orally.

ck2b
23-06-2009, 11:54
I always choose to have it in their bum or thigh where there's more fat layer to protect against bruising.

Totally off topic but vaccines for babies this age should always be given in the legs unless they are subcut then they can go in the arm. It is dangerous for them to have it the bum at this age and completely against the recommendations.

PunkyDiva
23-06-2009, 13:43
Totally off topic but vaccines for babies this age should always be given in the legs unless they are subcut then they can go in the arm. It is dangerous for them to have it the bum at this age and completely against the recommendations.

Why is it dangerous in the bum ? Is it not so much danger but more that it's harder to administer correctly/effectively in the backside because of muscle mass?

BabelFish
23-06-2009, 15:16
DD's vaccines have always been given in the thigh - will have to ask the nurse next time what the ruling is on bum-shots! :D