nucal scan cme back abnormal

[brooke+3]

Hi i had my nucal scan and blood test last wednesday and last night the Dr rang me and comfirmed the worst that the test came back with some abnormal results . I have to go and have another ultrasound this week some time. I was wondering if anyone else has been through the same thing so i can chat to some one whos been there it's hard to talk to friends who have all had problem free pregnancys .


ME : 25
AIDEN : Born 3/10/03
JACOB : Born 1/7/04


i couldnt get the ticker to work but i am 13 weeks and 6 days

[Lunar]

:wave: I have pm'd you.

[CarolineF]

Just remember that the dr cannot say with any degree of certainty that there is necessarily a problem. The nuchal scan and blood test comes back with a ratio telling you what the odds are that your baby has a problem....not that it definitely does have a problem.

In my first pregnancy when i was only 31 I had a triple test result of 1:28 for a risk of Downs and other chromosomal abnormalities. I decided to have an amnio and I also had one with this pregnancy. But in the meantime I got my head round it all by saying to myself that the up side was that 27/28 babies would be abnormality free.

It is scary though but the hospital should be able to put you in touch with a genetic counsellor who can assist you with making an informed next step decision.

I am thinking about you - I have been there too and it blows your mind initially until you have got your head round it. Don't panic,

Amnios really are OK and the results are 100% definitive. - I have had 2 now and I'm a woos!

Good luck honey:hugs: :hugs:

[aggero]

Sorry no advice to offer but I just wanted to send you a :hugs: and wish you all the best.

[olga82]

Hey,
You're not alone. I was told that my baby's nuchal thickness was abnormal during my first ultrasound (EVER). I freaked out, I was still on the bed when all of the sudden the doctor said to me that she should call the hospital and see if she can get some one to see me. I started crying cos I had no idea what she was even talking about. Then I had an appointment made for me a few weeks later at the foetal diagnostic unit, those two weeks were horrible for me I still didnt have any info on what was happening. At the foetal diagnostic unit they did another ultrasound and nuchal went from 3.2 to 1.2. But we were still offered a CVS. We decided that we wanted to know whats going on, so they done the CVS, it didnt hurt and was very quick. Then the next day we got the FISH results which were normal. But we still had to wait for another 2-3 weeks to get the letter confirming that everything was ok.
To me it was an awful experience and it took me a while to understand that if there was something wrong it wasnt anything that I did or that my hubby did. What ever happends you need to think positive. It is important to talk to people about it, dont keep it within yourself. Everything worked out for me and I hope it does for you too.:fingerscrossed: :hugs:

[chunky]

I know how you feel my scan on the 7 june was not what i was expecting a 1 in 7 chance for trisomony 21 and a 1 in 24 chance for trisomony 18, I went for a CVS yesterday but due to negative rehsus factor they wouldnt do it! so an other two week wait for an amnioscentisis, I was devestated when I had the scan, but i have slowly come to the realisation that nothing is confirmed until the amnio there is a 6in 7 chance and a 23 in 24 chance that it will all be fine and when I saw my OB today he said that he had seen people with a 1in 2 chance and it all was okay. it just takes time to come to terms with it all, the shock, the disapointment and of course you NEVER think it will happen to you I hope it all works out for you!

[maverick]

My wife and I have been trying to figure out when to get the Nuchal test done as our Ob gave us the week window for the test but we are unsure of when to start the count.

Our GP came up with a due date using his little rotating calendar thingy using my wifes last MS of 5 May. However when we were in Newcastle organising our OB my wife had to have an internal ultrasound and the findings of that put the baby at 5 weeks and 5 days when using the calendar method my wife was 7 weeks 4 days at the time.

So which do we use, the 5 weeks 5 days from the US or the calendar method? We are led to believe that it is a very short window of opportunity to have the NS test done.

[xkwzit]

Hi Brooke
We have had a few of these threads, check out the following, I think it covers your situation:
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=17705&highlight=nuchal+fold

I'll post more if I come across them

Cheers

[xkwzit]

OK got another one:
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=21183&highlight=depressing+results

Cheers

[SammieSnail]

I wish you and your family all the best Brooke :hugs:


My wife and I have been trying to figure out when to get the Nuchal test done as our Ob gave us the week window for the test but we are unsure of when to start the count.

Our GP came up with a due date using his little rotating calendar thingy using my wifes last MS of 5 May. However when we were in Newcastle organising our OB my wife had to have an internal ultrasound and the findings of that put the baby at 5 weeks and 5 days when using the calendar method my wife was 7 weeks 4 days at the time.

So which do we use, the 5 weeks 5 days from the US or the calendar method? We are led to believe that it is a very short window of opportunity to have the NS test done.

Maverick, dating pregnancy via ultrasounds is not an exact science so if you and your wife know the day of her last period I would go by that.

"Nuchal translucency screening should be done when the fetus has a
CRL of 45 to 84mm, which corresponds to 11 weeks and 3 days to 13 weeks and 6 days." http://ranzcog.edu.au/publications/statements/C-obs4.pdf

The blood test is also usually done within a week of the NT scan (a week prior) I think....

If you are unsure contact your GP or OB :yes:
Also if your wife is not in a high risk category (under 18, over 30-35 or has family history of genetic abnormalities) then medicare will not provide a rebate on the cost of the scan so if you're gonna get it done make sure you book with someone who bulk bills or the costs can be quite high (we were asked for $250 :eek: )

[LeahW]

Hi Brooke, sorry i can't be of any help but i just wanted to let you know i am thinking of you and your DH and i'm sure everything will be okay.

Take care Leah

[ChubStar]

Hi Brooke

When I was 18 weeks pregnant with DS, I had my first ultrasound. They nurse didn't mention any problems, so when I was called in to see the doctor 1 week later, i thought nothing of it. I just thought it was routine. My doc then told me that DS had a unilateral complete cleft lip and palate. She also told me that the nuchal skin fold test had come back on the higher end of normal, so there was a chance that my DS would have Downs.

Naturally I was devasted. I had to drive myself to DH work, while bawling my eyes out.

My PILs live in Brisbane and paid for me to fly there for further 4D scans and testing (we lived in Darwin at the time). I was so scared because I knew we couldn't and didn't want to deal with a special needs baby (I have huge respect for those who do), so having an amnio to find out for sure seemed to be the only option. But I was also 20 weeks by this time, so if something was wrong, aborting would mean going thru labour. Thankfully the amnio came back all clear.

DS was still born with a cleft lip and palate, but this was nothing compared with what could have been. I was never offered any counselling, but I know it would have helped my get through it and avoid the depression I suffered through out pg. Whatever your results are, make sure you ask for a referral to a counsellor so you can de-brief, it really helps.

Good luck and I hope the tests all come back normal.

[maverick]

I wish you and your family all the best Brooke :hugs:



Maverick, dating pregnancy via ultrasounds is not an exact science so if you and your wife know the day of her last period I would go by that.

"Nuchal translucency screening should be done when the fetus has a
CRL of 45 to 84mm, which corresponds to 11 weeks and 3 days to 13 weeks and 6 days." http://ranzcog.edu.au/publications/statements/C-obs4.pdf

The blood test is also usually done within a week of the NT scan (a week prior) I think....

If you are unsure contact your GP or OB :yes:
Also if your wife is not in a high risk category (under 18, over 30-35 or has family history of genetic abnormalities) then medicare will not provide a rebate on the cost of the scan so if you're gonna get it done make sure you book with someone who bulk bills or the costs can be quite high (we were asked for $250 :eek: )

Hi Sammie,

Well the question of which method to use for the Nuchal test window was answered by the Radiologist doing the test. They use the date of the predicted age from the early internal US. So it will be the 11 Aug for the Nuchal test for my wife.

Cheers

Mav

[SammieSnail]

Hi Sammie,

Well the question of which method to use for the Nuchal test window was answered by the Radiologist doing the test. They use the date of the predicted age from the early internal US. So it will be the 11 Aug for the Nuchal test for my wife.

Cheers

Mav

Ahhh good, glad you've worked it out....I'm sure the scan will be fine anyway :)

[shwingirl]

Hi Brooke,
I am so relieved to find I am not alone that I am in tears while I type this. I had my 12 weeks scan on the 20/7 with my first baby (which we have taken 18 months to conceive). Within 10 seconds the doctor said, "I don't like what I am seeing". I was almost hysterical. Our baby has 7.9mm of fluid at the base of his neck - it also extends through the upper part of his body as well.
The scan + maternal serum screen came back as
Downs - 1:6
Trisomy 18 - 1:16

We then had a CVS on Monday where they took a piece of my placenta (pretty horrible but very very quick) and the initial report came back clear for Downs as well as Trisomy 18 and 13. We are now waiting for the final results which take 2 weeks.

It is just tortureous and lonely. Despite my husband being supportive I just don't feel like he really gets what it is like to carry this baby and feel so close to it and have people saying, "your risk of miscarriage is very high" "the likelihood of a chromosomal defect is very high".

I don't think there is anything we can do to relieve the pressure. Do you have a good GP? Mine has been terrific and has already referred me to a special fetal unit which I am going to on Monday.

xxx amber
thoughts are with you.

[kezzmo]

When i was 12 weeks i had a the nucal scan as well as the blood test. At the ultrasound i was so happy to see my baby on the screen for the first time! Until i was told by the man who did the ultrasound that there was a good chance that my baby has down syndrome or turners syndrome and to go back to my doctors to book in for termination. How could he be aloud to say it so bluntly!? I had a nucal fold measurement of 6.0mm, I was devastated! My combined results were 1 in 29 for DS and 1 in 30 for trisomy 13 and 18. The next day i went back to the doctors and the booked me in for a cvs the doctor also told me the out look did not look good. The CVS test didn't hurt it was just uncomfortable. The nest day i got the FISH test results back and they were normal. We also found out that we are having a baby girl!! We then had to 2 week wait for the full results. They also came back normal. I then had to go for a full anatomy scan at 16 weeks because if it is not chromosonal defects then usually a high nucal fold measurement points to a heart defect. The scan came back normal for no major heart defects. I now have to wait until im 20 weeks for a Fetal Echocardigram to search for any minor defects. If this next test comes back normal than i have a 95% chance that everything is normal and that my baby just has a bit of fluid on her neck! They said it could disapear between now and the birth anyway. If i could go back in time i would never of had the test to start with! The stress it puts you under is unbeliable. My husband didn't know what to do to make me feel better. Its harder for them to understand because there not the one that has carried the baby for the last 3-4 months. Im lucky i had my mum that was there for me every step of the way. My mum had suffered with a loss of still born when she was younger so she seemed to know all the right things to say. I think my baby must be one tough cookie to be able to put up with all my tears! You can't fully enjoy your pregancy just incase there "could" be something wrong. I will always now have it in the back of my mind until she comes out and i know everything is ok!. I also wonder what if i had of listened to the man that did the first ultrasound?