Joyous June-09 babies chat

[Sheer Bliss]

:wave: I thought i'd get this started since there are a few of us that have had our bubs already!!

So how is everyone going?

We came home on friday, and so far it's going well. Waking both babies every 4hrs to feed ATM, but E has woken a few times himself, so A has been woken too, and tandem b/f is working so far!! :D I remember this part with DS....he was an angel, up until around his due date, where he found his lungs, started demand feeding and really letting us know he was here. The timing this time will be just when DH has gone back to work.

The other kiddies are obsessed with them, and climb all over me when I am trying to feed, hoping the novelty wears off soon. But it's so sweet to see them all together. :flowerz:

[susieq1969]

Can't wait to join you CM!!! :smiliedance:

[Hooves]

Glad to hear that things are going so well for you CM. Well done on the tandem feeding.

And how cute are your other children. I am sure the novelty will wear off soon.

Not long and hopefully you will have lots of june mummies to chat with.

[shockinamillion]

My Bubbas are still in the hospital I am expressing every three hours or so for them. I am learning HEAPS from the nurses they are amazing.

[Sheer Bliss]

Any idea on how long they will be in hospy for shock? I found the m/w great for tips and stuff specific to twins too - it was great! hope the hospy isn't far from home so there is not too much travelling for you.

[shockinamillion]

The Middies at the new hospy today told me that the bubs could be home within the fortnight. They are on Caffine at the moment. Once they are off that the hospy will monitor them for 5 days, if they are fine then we will be transfered to my local hospy and we will room in for 3-5 days so I can start fully feeding them and having them in the room with me.:smiliedance::smiliedance:

The hospy is about an hour to an hour and a half by train, then I need to take a bus for 10-20 mins. The times are better than the first hospy though. It was walking distance from the hospital but dodgy times.

The bubs got moved today, it was thier first car trip.

[Sheer Bliss]

:smiliedance: E is waking hmself up to be fed!! :yelclap: My clever boy! they are 39weeks by my dates, and almost 37weeks by the scan dates now, so I should expect them to start waking, and it is awesome that they are. 3hrly feeds overnight, so I am a little tired....a glimpse into the future! Both are very alert when they wake too, so another good sign. I have the clinic nurse coming on thursday to do the first home visit and check their weights. DH is starting to annoy me.....only 4weeks until he goes back to work :laughing:. By then, i'll probably be wanting him to stay home. I went on a shopping splurge on my own yesterday (put it on the CC in anticipation of double baby bonus!) Got 3 bras and 2 feeding tank tops from K-mart - they actually had a good range! Plus a cot matress for the second cot, material to cut some big fleecy wraps from spotlight and a new cardigan from sussan. It's a nice long one to keep my back warm when feeding while out, but open at the front for ease of getting both boobs out!

Shock - that's great that bubs might be home in a fortnight!! It would be exhausting to be doing all that travelling, and so hard to go home without bubs. :fingerscrossed: they are home with you very soon!

Where are all the other mums?? Come on girls - it's officially June now :D (I know you are all hanging to have your bubs, and I hope this happens soon!)

[Kema]

:wave: Just poppping in to see how you girls are doing.


I cant wait to join you...hopefully soon.

Kema:bee:

[Sheer Bliss]

Poor Lexi has a cold!! I have never had such a tny baby with a cold before! I guess it's to be expected, a winter baby with 2 older siblings at daycare. Poor thing was up every 2hrs last night with a yukky nose. Squirting her up the nose wth breast milk and saline seems to be clearing it up - :fingerscrossed: tonight is a bit better.

We had the moulds of their hands and feet done today too :smiliedance:. DS was 3weeks when we did his, and they are just over 3weeks - just have to organise the pics to be done later in the week. I can't wait to see the finished product! AND I took them both into daycare with DS to pick up DD!!! DH was int he car, JIC we struggled, but I have to get used to it soon. It went well, DS was a little difficult, but it wasn't too bad. Phew!!

They were weighed last week too - A put on 240g, E 260g - so that is awesome!

Kema - can't wait for you to join us too!!

[Hooves]

Hi guys, my little man arrived and all is going really well.

Shock, I hope you can have your little ones home soon. Oh happy day that will be.

CM, that is great weight gain.

My little bug (I called him love bug, for the 4 days he was nameless for. LOL) lost 240 grams, then put some more back on once my milk came in in hospy.

BUT today, he is still 18 grams from his birth weight. So hopefully he will be back and over that, in the next few days.

My other two boys, were putting on 200-300 grams a week. My third child, who was my biggest, was the one who always had huge weight gains.

R is a little slower. Hopefully I can start being a good jersey cow to him soon.:laughing:

You sound like you are doing really well. AND the twin feeding sounds like you are awesome at it.

Kema, hopefully your little one will come and meet you soon.

[another1]

Hi Girls...I can join you now.

Georgie is doing well after our first night home. She didn't sleep all that well was restless from 11pm till 3am then I fell asleep with her till 6.30am so just been dozing today.

My milk is starting to come in so am hoping she'll settle a bit better tonight.

Its soooooo good having a girl! :yelclap:

DH is having some trouble adjusting cause with the others I stayed in a couple of nights so him seeing me in this horrible stage when everything hurts is a bit hard on him but he's being great with the other kids and he's been doing all the nappies so far!

[Hooves]

Hi another ,

I hope you are more comfortable soon, and that bub is more settled with your milk.

It is not a nice time, initially, but so good once you are on the mend.

Mine are still a little sore and I am feeling chewed on.

I think bub has silent reflux, so we are trying a few strategies. He just wants to feed feed, and then he isn't so settled.

He is leaving me, a little ouchie, and I am into over supply, already.

Hoping some of these reflux strategies work. :fingerscrossed:

Hope everyone is still going great guns with their new babies.

Chat soon, guys.

[The sooper nanny]

hiya ladies

finally found the thread.... sounds like everyone is doing really well. Yay for the feeding and weight gains.

Well Katelyn is home and boy are we lucky parents. She sleeps really well has taken to breastfeeding like a pro and takes EBM from a bottle no problems. I had a little delay in my milk coming in I think because of the caesarean and the infection that I got. Im expressing after each feed and Katelyn sleeps 2-5 hourly so shes obviously getting enough.

Im going to the breastfeeding centre today to get ther weighed and check that everything is going well.

Its been a difficult recovery from the c-section and my wound is still oozing like buggary. The pain is much better controlled now but its been difficult to say the least. I find it frustrating that I cant do much. I cant even lift the capsule out of the car.

Katelyn loves her pram and the car and we have taken her for a walk most days. Dh has been an absolute gem and I could not have done it without him, we are more in love than ever. :valentine:

Well Im off to express and make sure miss muffet is still asleep :fingerscrossed:

[shockinamillion]

Hiyas, we are finally home and it feels great. I have been having some trouble bf them though and have decided to bottle them. they are getting EBM s26 gold and a couple of bf a day. I will keep giving them access to the breast so they can work on attaching slowly. this is what we were doing in hospital.

Last night was so hard. one feed took 3 hours of trying to attaching then having to top up with ebm.

DP is being so helpful and loving with them. We are having issues with his mum though.

Sorry no personals.

[Sheer Bliss]

shock - :yelclap: :yelclap: for being home!!! With attaching to the breast, be as patient as you can, and remember not to be too hard on yourself. Getting attachment down pat is hard in 35/36weekers that have developed the sucking reflex - it would be very hard in younger term bubs.

hooves - glad you are doing well, but ahhh, that chewed feeling is not nice!! :hugs: for bubs reflux. DS1 was a happy chucker - i can't imagine dealing with it being painful too.

Shaz - you sound really happy and like it is reflecting in your bubba!

another1 - hope your milk is well and truly in now and bubs is more settled.

AFM - been out and about the last few days, and managed to twin feed while out - that felt great!! E gained 260g and A 240g in the last week too - so very happy with that. E is a thumb sucker though - its so cute!!

[niks28]

Hey.... I can you guys too now!

Had Blair at 8.55am yesterday and was home last night, it was an awesome birth!

She now is happily b/f and sleeping aahhhh!!!

Will catch up on personals later whilst she is getting cuddles from DP.

[Hooves]

Shazzi, so glad you are home, and all is going well. I can't believe you have had to deal with a CS infection. YUK!! Glad you are on the mend though.:hugs:


Shock, :smiliedance: you are home. I think the key with babies is survival. WE mums need to do what we can, so we can survive. It must be even more of a priority with twins.


CM and Shock, You two amaze me, you are doing an awesome job. I am exhausted, and I only have one bub.


Congratulations Niks, You sound like you are doing really well too. I love how you can all confidently go home, so early from hospital.

I really enjoy my hospital stay. I call it my holiday, from my family.:laughing:


Ryan was so much more settled last night. We have decided to not fight it anymore, I am too tied. SO for now he is sharing our bed, at night.

I have no idea if he is cold, or if there is another issue. (the silent reflux thing, is kind of under control) but he just doesn't stay down in his own bed at night. I was feeding him, every 1.5 to 2 hours.

He went 3 hours between feeds last night.

I do however not want to make a habit of co sleeping. I am keeping him in his own bed of a day time, and only bringing him, into ours, for the first night feed. Then he stays with us, till morning.

Hubby is happier, and I am not sleeping in the recliner. Personally I think the baby is just a master manipulator. BUT I am confident I can change this bad habit later. :yes:

Hopefully I won't be eating those words, in a few months time. :rolleyes:

[another1]

Hi All

I lost my post!

We have settled in really well now...well I think so! Georgie is feeding really well and apart from one cracked nipple its not to bad. Found these wonderful Avent shield things today that also collect dripping milk! Now I'm not sticking to a bra and doing more damage!

Georgie had her weight done yesterday at 5 days old and was on 50grams less then birth weight so she's doing well.

As Georgie was late we had to cancel a trip to Tassie for my Mum's 60th but Mum put photo's up of us and we were there in spirit.

My DS1 loves his little sister to bits, cuddles and kisses all the time its so cute.

Hooves - how's your little guy going? any more settled?

Shazzi - lovely to see your baby is settled, bugger on the wound

shock - hope things are coming along in the feeding

CM - yay on getting out. i got out yesterday and it felt good.....that might have had something to do with the retail therapy though!
Georgie sucks her thumb sometimes...its adorable

Niks - yay on your fast turnaround...I loved coming home straight away...so nice to be at home and not in hospital getting woken and annoyed

[Hooves]

Georgie sounds like she is going really well, Another1. That is great news.

AND yay on all that retail therapy, girls.

OUch to the cracked nipple.

I have two now. Ryan, is a chewer. He goes on, and doesn't want to let go, and he is never attached properly first go. He seems to do this thing with his tongue, he puts it in front of my nipple, and always first attachment needs to be taken off, and try again.

Other than that, all is going well. He was a little unsettled and windy, from the bottom end, today. BUT he is sleeping well at the moment. A few hours now.

I am leaking like a fountain. SO he must be due to feed soon.



I am feeling a little house bound at the moment. Can't wait until I am able to drive again. Hubby doesn't like going any where, just for fun, he likes lazing around the house.
Of course this lovely cold weather, isn't helping me change his mind.

I am kind of seeing the walls close in on me, at the moment.

Hope you are all well. AND your bubs, are being good to you. AND you are getting some sleep.

[kazza76]

Hi ladies!

Well after finding 5 minutes to sit down with some time to myself. I thought I would pop on and check out the new threads for June mummies.

Sounds like everyone is getting in to the swing of things. All is going well in our world. Jack is a little slow with putting on weight, He was born at 2930gms and went down to 2700 before he came home three weeks ago, he has only just come up to his birth weight this week, so the specialist wants to see him again in two weeks just to see how much weight he has gained.

As for the milk thing. I am a little worried that I am not producing enough. Even when I drink a TON of water! Are you able to BF as well as comp with formula? Or is that not a good idea?

[Sheer Bliss]

:wave:

niks - congrats on having a great birth, and wow for being home so soon, that's great!

Hooves - my DS is a bit of a manipulator too - he just wants his mummy to cuddle him! :D He sleeps for an hour or 2 in the cot, then cries and falls asleep as soon as i pick him up with a smug look on his face - so cute, but I am loving all the cuddles!!

kazza - all my bubs (except DS2) have lost more than 10% of their body weight in the first few days, but then started to gain weight in the weeks after that. I never comp'd with formula, just kept demand feeding to build my supply (expressing sometimes after a feed if bub fed for less than 20mins) and it increased with time. You can formula feed and breastfeed, but it is most likely to decrease your supply, and more likely that you'll end up full-time formula feeding. We have been getting the twins weighed each week, just to make sure they are gaining weight and confirm that top-ups aren't needed. IF you need to top-up, you can top up with EBM too, which if you are expressing will help with supply.

AFM - paed appt tomorrow for a follow-up. Both bubs are doing well, and demand feeding every 2-4hrs, and both just over 6lb now, so I am thinking it will be the last appt with him. He is such a lovely man though, will be sad to see him for the last time. He has always been so supportive of b/f and had some lovely comments when he walked into the nursery and i was feeding them both at the same time - it was a great confidence booster.

[Hooves]

CM you are doing really well. Keep up that great work. I believe, you only get given what you can handle.

BUT sometimes, you have to learn that you can and learn to trust yourself. (At least that was my first experience)

I know twins would be a little more then I could handle. BUT you are doing it like a seasoned professional. Well done.


Kazza, yes you can comp. BUT try it with Expressing after every feed. It will help boost your supply, and after a feed, you can get your hubby, to feed bub, a bottle while you express.

We had to do this with our first, it did work, she started gaining weight, when we did this. SHE was slow to gain, and would only do 30 -60 grams a week.

Also if you do decide to do top ups, I am sure we had to give a bottle of 60 ml, after each breast feed. Sometimes I would only be able to express, 40 mls, so we would make up the difference with formula.

We had to make a 60 ml, amount of formula, (I think that is the minimum you can make up, but check the tin), and tip 20 mls of it, (cooled into the breast milk bottle of 40 mls) Then reheat the EBM, bottle in a cup of hot water. Just enough to take the fridge chill off.

Half the time, she would only drink 40 mls, it was very frustrating, but it worked.

WE had to do the comp feeding for 3 months, with her.

BUT I did start to hate the time, it would take to express, after each feed. BUT it was all worth the work in the end.


Gees sorry about the :ecomcity: .


AFM, Ryan had a really long hard night last night. I can't remember when they do the first growth spurt, but think it may have been last night for him.

I am chewed raw, from all the feeding, so I picked up some nipple shields today. I hate using them, but they helped heaps, earlier. I take them off, half way through a feed, once he has settled down a bit, and is happily drinking, rather then knawing.

Much better.

I hope you are all going well, and your bubs, are treating you well.

This lack of sleep thing, is hard isn't it? I forgot just how hard, the sleep deprivation can be. Hang in there, It will get easier.

[shockinamillion]

Hey guys, Bubs had their first outing yesterday! I walked them down the street all on my own and we were out for about 4 hours and DP finished work and helped me walk the pram up the hill.

DP has just blown me away, he is such a great dad! He walked in from work today and they were both crying as I was getting their feed ready and he just grabbed one before he even sat down or changed or anything. I caught him giving Serylity kisses on her head and he blushed and muttered some excuse. It was very sweet.Tomorrow he looking after them while I go do a little shop and have a coffee.

As for feeding they are getting 1 of 3 feeds as EBM (just cannot express anymore and I am letting them have a go at the breast each day but it is just dreadfully painful and they get sooo upset and frustrated that I am gettng more and more confident that I have made a good desiscion when it comes to feeding. I was getting more and more upset also and I don't think it would be very good to get myself into a cycle of feeling like a failure. Last thing I want is to end up with a case of PND when they need me most. I am just happy that they are still getting some breast milk.

CM, I think you are amazing. Twins plus two older ones WOW!!!

Kazza, I understand the finding 5 mins thing. I was over the moon to get half an hour today!

another1, Good to hear the little one is settling in.

anyone else sorry if I have missed you.

[The sooper nanny]

shock well done to you for making decisions about feeding that you are happy with, its hard enough with one premmie, let alone 2! And isnt it nice to get outside? That was the one thing I craved whilst i was in hospital. Isnt it sweet to see the dads go all soft and gushy? My DH is so in love, makes me so happy

Sounds like youre going well CM.... good luck with the paed appointment.

Hooves... youch on the sore nipples. Have you got some lansinoh cream? Nipple shields are good for that, have you got a pump? If they are too sore to feed you could rest them and express for a day or two?

Kazz- Ive had to comp with formula, my supply has been an issue and Katelyn needs extra at night. I really dont care now, if I have EBM she gets that but I cant seem to keep up with her so she gets the odd top up. as long as shes healthy, thats all i care about.

AFM went to the child health nurse today, all good, putting on weight, all happy with everything and she peed everywhere when we weighed her..... she is such a dream baby, I cant belive how lucky we are. Im having to wake her during the day.... she sleep 3-4 hours at night. shes such a good girl .... we are blessed :goodvibes:

[Hooves]

Shock, glad you worked out the feeding. I saw your other thread in the multiples section.

Was going to suggest, you feed one twin at a time, and give a bottle to the other. SO you are still offering some breast milk.

BUT I see, you have it all sorted.


Shazzi, I bought nipple shields today, and started expressing tonight.

Ryan still has a bit of Jaundice, so I want to flush it out of his system.

I am not sure how, but I think I have thrush on my nipples as well. At least that is what if feels like.

I have not had this much trouble, with breast feeding since my first bub. BUT I do have a few tricks, to try.

Tonight we have decided to offer, EBM, and formula, to give my nips a rest, and to see, if it makes a difference to his sleeping.

The community mid wife comes tomorrow, so I am very interested to see, how much weight he has gained. I am wondering, if I have another bub, like my first on my hands. AND if I do, I want to get this one worked out, in the next few weeks, not in the next 3 months.


Hope you are all well, you sound like you are all doing a great job.

AND :yelclap: to those outings. The first few outings with bub, are always daunting. Especially the first time, you have to feed in public.

[Hooves]

Hi mummies,

Hope you are all well, and getting some rest.

Ryan has not gained as much weight this week as I would have liked, and the jaundice, is not looking great. SO we are now feeding him, 50 mls, EBM, or formula, (depending on how much I can express) after each feed.

If he is not much better by tomorrow afternoon, he needs a blood test.

:fingerscrossed: This works, tonight and tomorrow, so we can avoid the blood test.

WE got some sunshine here today, so I undressed him, and layed him near the window, in the sun. (FIRST rays of sunshine, in ages, here)



Keep taking care of yourselves, and hope all the bubbas are thriving. :hugs:

[niks28]

Hey!

Just checking up on how everyone is going whilst DD is napping.....oh spoke to soon, she just had a grizzle!

Had our first outing to the shops today which seemed to take forever to get organised then once we were there to get everything done and all we did was have lunch, go to medicare and then grab some ffod for dinner!

By the time we got to the checkouts, she was starting to grizzle for a feed so we rushed home and she fed for half an hour :)

Anyway just a quick question, my milk came in Monday and my bb's were massive but they dont feel half as heavy and full as they did then....is it normal for them to do that in only two days? I was just expecting to have these massive sore boobs for days.

[Hooves]

Niks How many children do you have??

I found my first, time with the engorgement was the worst.

My next time around, with bub two, I was feeling comfy, by the afternoon. My milk came in with him, in the middle of the night.

Each time, it has gotten less uncomfortable.

So if this is bub number two or more, that sounds normal.

Or if your bub, has been feeding really well, then you are blessed, and they have handled the milk, coming in. AND not left you too full.

Your supply settles down, pretty quickly to bubs needs, so sounds like things are going great to me.

[niks28]

She's my first..... hope it is because she is a good feeder and not coz of anything else!

Thanks Hooves :)

[Hooves]

When are you due to get her weighed, again, Niks??

Weight gain, tells you if things are going well or not. I think from memory, anything between 150 - 240 grams, in a week, is great.

My bub only put on 80 grams (this week), and that is not so good, for a week.

BUT at the end of the day, as long as they are gaining weight, and not losing, it is a win.

[kazza76]

Hi ladies.

DP is home watching Jack so I have been able to jump online to catch up.:smiliedance:

Hooves, Jack has mild jaundice as well. he was put under the lights twice when he was in special care and the midwifes come to the house every couple of days for blood tests to make sure he isn't getting any worse. The one thing I found that droped his levels (because at one stage there they were talking about re admitting him) was to feed, feed feed. So he was on every 2 and a half hours. His levels have dropped, but he is still a bit yellow. It's really common with premmie babies. They also told me to put his bassinet near the window so he gets lots of natural light. This helps break it down as well.

CM, Hope your appointment went well with the paed. We have one more next week and I think that will be our last as well. Our paed is amazing and also happens to be the director at the hospital in paed's. So we couldn't have asked for a better doc. PLUS in a bizzare twist, he was my paed when I was born as well as DP. How amazing is that?!

Shock, glad things are working out with the feeds, I can't begin to imagine how hard it is for you ladies with more then one bubs!

Shazzie, Sounds like you have a great childhood nurse. Jack's one came over for the first time the other day and made me feel like the worst mum. Telling me that he was still a little underweight and he should be putting on up to 150gms a week (at the moment he puts on just under 100) and that his hips are too lose and needs more tummy time and that his head is flat on one side and I should be turning him more often,. I felt like telling him that he wasn't a roast chicken!

Niks, Mine do the same. Some days they are so engorged that my nps are really hard to get up, others they are all soft and squshy like nothing is in them. My GP told me that even though they feel empty, they aren't. When they are engorged, they are either way too full or the let down has come on early BEFORE the feed. But it's all quite normal, just the BB's getting use to how much milk they have to make.

AFM, Well Jack is doing really well. He's got a few pimples at the moment from all my hormones coming out of him, but the Dr said that will go in a week or so. They are still happy with his jaundice (as it's not getting any worse) but we have to keep an eye on it. Some nights are really good and he will sleep well in between feeds, then other nights, he is a nightmare. But I guess he's just getting used to the outside world. Would just love a bit more then two hours sleep on the couch on those nights sometimes! Oh and the dreaded hormone tears have already come on. The other day DP told me he wanted to play poker with the boys for a couple of hours and I spent the rest of the night in the bedroom in tears! lol. Damn hormones. Oh and he didn't end up going. oops.

Hope everyone is well. Has anyone joined a mothers group at all? Just wondering what they are like.

[Hooves]

Shazzi, Join a mothers group, you will love, it.

I joined one when I had my first bub, and some of us, are still great friends. The group, was about, 16 mums.

BUT over the years, some moved, and of course you can't get on with everyone.

I am great mates, with three of the original crowd. AND we still try and make coffee, mornings.


Our babies, have grown up a bit, but strangely, we have all managed to have other bubs, around the same time. Our third babies, are all within a few months of each other.

I know, Mothers group, really saved my sanity, when I had my first. It was great knowing others were feeling like I was, and getting out, was great too.


Ryan is doing a bit better today, I think. WE gave him, top ups, all day yesterday and last night. All this expressing, is making me feel a little sad, I think it is hormones.

He doesn't look as yellow to me, and the whites of his eyes, are not yellow today they were yesterday.


I hope you are all going well. Chat later. Take care.

[shockinamillion]

Sawyer was jaundiced. It took until this last week for him to lose all his yellowness and he is 4 weeks now. As of an hour and a bit ago actually.

Serylity-Ann smiled at me yesterday. She and he brother have been doing these gassy half smiles since day dot but this was a HUGE big gummy smile, open mouthed and she looked right into my eyes when she did it. We had just gotten home from a mummy daughter grocery shop, I left Sawyer and DP at home. I put her down on the bed and she just smiled huge up into my eyes. I got so excited.

Kazza, the pead looking after my two was mine when I was a bub and he was yelled at by my grandmother for sticking a needle into my abdomen to get a urine sample.

Hooves, hope bub gets fat quicker :) Get fat was my mantra for the twins when they were in the hospital. I used to tell them to get fat and keep thier food in their tummies everytime I had to leave. When she was on air I added pump up those lungs.

So, is anyone else having issues with family. My MIL will not let us alone about holding the bubs, we want to wait a bit longer as the docs told us to only handle them when nessessary and not to pass them around. Especially our girl as she had the breathing issues. She is acting like it is a personal attack on her and won't even stay away when half her household has the flu. She is making me feel REALLY down and upset about it all. She seems to have calmed down a bit so when she comes tomorrow if she does not smell like cleaning products (she is coming from work as a cleaner) then she may get a quick hold IF they are awake. She starts telling me what to do though then I will be asking her to leave. She is really making me so undecided and agrivated.

[Sheer Bliss]

Today is bubs due date!! YAY!! And they are officially acting like term bubbas now - so that is fantastic! All went well with the paed - he is happy with both of them and they are both almost 3kg. Both bubbas are awake more now too, so starting to see their personalities and having some nappy free tummy time! They are so strong, and Lexi was pulling her knees up and wriggling all over the place!!

shock - :yelclap: for the smile!! It's so beautiful getting that first one. As for the MIL - it's so hard when they are prem, and others don't understand how they need to be treated. I remember getting info from other members in regards to b/f and just feed, feed, feed wtc, but that simply doesn't apply with prems, they NEED their rest, and you are doing all the right things by keeping bubbas resting and away from others, esp when sick. It's only been the last week (39+weeks corrected) that we have been taking bubbas out and about and letting others have lots of cuddles. Just keep reminding the MIL that they are not meant to be here yet, so she should think of them as still being in your tummy and not available for cuddles. Remind her that it's jsut for a short while, and they will be big and strong soon enough.

Niks - with DS1 I never got engorged either. I think it was because he was waking heaps for feeds as my milk came in, so it was a perfect mix of draining them so I was comfy. They hardly feel full sometimes now too, but if bubs go that extra 15mins longer with sleep, then i get the let-down feeling and really full. Don't worry too much about boob size or weight gain, and focus on alertness, wet nappies, settled etc - they are the best indicators. All babies will gain at different rates, and i was always told 150g is average, so less is just fine too. DD1 would plateu and gain nothing for a week or 2, then have a big gain - its all good, so long as bubs are not tiny and under 3kg still.

Hooves - hope you get it all sorted!

kazza - the natural light is great! DS2 looked a little yellow in hsopy and a day sleeping in m window in the sun cleared it all up.

shaz - you sound so happy and enjoying your well behaved girl!

[DungeonKeeper]

So, is anyone else having issues with family.



I haven't had my little one yet but I am being nosey and stalking this thread! I am glad you guys and the babies are doing so well and hope the issues with the MIL are resolved soon and don't make you too upset. I know it's hard but concentrate on the little ones as they are more improtant than feelings of people who won't even respect your decisions and professional advice.

The following isn't really an issue or a mon but it was just a bit odd at the time. We were on the phone to my MIL yesterday and as my mum is here she was asking about how things were going. MIL is back in the UK. My mum is a clean freak and stuff and has been cleaning and cooking like a maniac since she arrived two weeks ago which has just been fantastic.

Anyway, on the phone yesterday MIL said that she hopes we don't expect her to be like that when she comes over xmas time as she is really not into all that cleaning and stuff which she admitted. All this was said half jokingly but still it felt a bit weird. One could at least be nice and offer to help as much as they can even if they are no good at it!!

It went further though. I said not to worry and I can take care of all that stuff so her reply was "Good! I can then just look after the baby!!" :eek:

Erm, no, I think it's my job to look after the baby as the mother, you can play with it. I didn't say that of course but if she does happen to be taking over too much then I would say something, or at least get the husband on the task first.

[Sheer Bliss]

Speaking of MIL's....my MIL is arriving from melbourne tomorrow for the weekend. I am NOT looking fwd to it, she has said many things in the past that have annoyed the cr@p out of me and been rather rude. Here is hoping I make it through the weekend OK!

[The sooper nanny]

hey ladies,

finally have some time to come and post. Acutally Ive been finding Katelyn an absolute dream and have managed to do a lot around the house and even coloured my hair yesterday!

DK- heres hoping you get our baby soon. Dont worry about the MIL. they can say things over the phone just to irritate you. Im sure it will all work out when shes here. Its hard to combine 2 families,dont you reckon?

CM- yay for your 'term' bubbas... theyve done so well. You should be proud of yourself. How are you coping with all of those little ones in your house?

Shock- Your littlies have also done remarkably well... big credits to you. You stick to your guns, they are your children and good on you for giving them a voice and protecting their health. I have turned people away that are sick, its not worth the risk.

Hooves- sounds like youve been managing the jaundice really well. Its a stressful thing to keep feeding and feeding but sounds like hes got rid of it, katelyn was jaundiced but under phototherapy range thankfully. I am going to join the mothers group, im looking forward to it.

Kazz- damn those hormones hey? It doesnt take much.... sounds like youre doing really well .


AFM- Katelyn seems to feed at 8, 12, 4 day and night, no matter when we feed her, she seems to have developed her own routine. The midnight feed is her biggest and we often have to give her a full top up. I was leaving one feed out from expressing overnight but I dont hink I can do that anymore. My BBs are like rocks now if I miss it and my supply is definetly improving :smiliedance:MIL coming over today, so I best go and make sure Ive got some food...... take care all

[niks28]

Kazza, CM and Hooves - Thanks for the reassurance..... Just have heard "oh the engorgement is so bad blah blah" So I was expecting it for a few days at least not just two! Kinda wished I got a picture :laughing: Blair is definetley has enough wet nappies and is quite alert when she is awake, so many people comment on that she has definetley been here before! But I now am making sure I am drinking heaps of water just in case....Cant be a bad thing can it? She gets weighed on Tuesday again.

Shazzi - You and DK are having a baby hey? ;) So good to hear that Katelyn is doing so well.

Kazza - My DP wants to go away next weekend wake boarding as his mate is down from Broome for the weekend, and everyone is staying in a cabin so I could go but dont think everyone wants to be woken evry 3 hrs when Blair gets hungry! Every time I think about it I start to cry too :laughing: Aaaahhh gotta love the hormones hey!

Ok enough rambling for me for the day! Have a great day everyone

[Hooves]

Shock, I like that mantra, and it has worked so well too. AS to the Mil issues, I agree with CM, just tell her to treat them like they are not here yet, or are still in special care. She can look, but not touch.. You have been doing so well with them, and they are thriving because you have listened to what you were told.

They are your bubs, do what you want. AND enjoy those smiles, awwwww. Can't wait for Ryan to start smiling at me.


CM :smiliedance: Your bubs are doing so well, and so are you.


DK, when the time comes, do what you want also, and tell the Mil when she arrives, she can cook some meals or something:laughing:


:hugs: to those of you with MIL, or other family member issues. I am pretty lucky my Mil is great, my mother, on the other hand. hmmmm.


Shazzi, Katelyn sounds like a dream, and that is great news about the increase in your supply.

Niks, I know exactly what you mean by the been here before comments. My daughter was the same. Every one referred to her as an old soul. My 1st son, on the other hand, was brand new. :laughing:

Try and go away for that weekend, it sounds like it could be good for you. Don't worry about waking up others, they wouldn't have invited you, if they didn't want you guys to go. AND I bet there will not be many who will even hear bub.



I know what you guys mean by hormones. I had a real mental yesterday. Burst into tears over rubbish. I feel good today.


Ryan, has been 4 hourly feeding. I have been feeding him, and offering him, 60 mls of EBM.

AND last night, he started taking both breasts, and some EBM.

He also, vomited up a huge feed, on hubby. :laughing: SO I am pretty sure he is getting enough.

Last night, the midnight feed, I only offered him, breast. He drank from both, but I could hear the milk, rushing into his stomache. He fed for ages too.

SO I didn't offer the EBM, at that feed, and he stayed down for 4 hours.

Today, he woke, up less yellow again, and we decided to go out for a few hours, shopping, today.

I have also been lying him, in his pram near the glass door. Almost naked.

I am hopeful, we will avoid the blood test, and he will get rid of this jaundice, by Monday. He is more alert at the breast, and is having awake time.

I hope the day is going well for all of you.
Chat later.:hugs:

[Frocky]

Hi All

Wow so many posts to read and catch up on! I will do that next time I breastfeed I think so sorry for lack of personals this time around.

After a horrible birth the first 3 days have been ok and am so besotted with my little Liv!:cloud9: BF was hard but I'm getting there and general soreness is going - I'm still in hospital til Monday morning. Olivia is getting a brace fitted later today as the poor little mite has two displaced hip joints which is a significant problem but can be corrected. In the scheme of things I'm not worrying too much - she's not in the SCU or anything and I have confidence in the lovely paediatrician.

Hope everyone is well :wave: and that all the gorgeous bubs are bringing their mummies lots of joy :baby:

[Hooves]

Frocky, sorry you had a hard time.


Glad that you and bub are doing so well.



Hope everyone else is well.


My boy is feeding better, but he is still a little jaundiced. I thought he was looking better, the other day, but he could be about the same. Except he is staying awake for feeds, and he is going 4 hours between feeds.

BUT he has started vomiting, after I feed him, and offer the bottle, of EBM.

SO I am not going to do the EBM, unless he is fussing. Because once he starts to vomit, he doesn't stop until he has emptied his stomache.

SO I have to try and feed him again, in about an hour and a half.

On the up side, he will take both sides, now. SO I reckon he is getting plenty of my milk. Which I have heaps of.

BUT for the amount he is drinking, I would have thought the jaundice would have gotten a lot less by now.

Any way, I guess I will find out tomorrow, when the middy comes, to weigh him, and check him out.



Hubby is not happy about him, possibly needing a blood test. His attitude is, why put him through that, when all they do is tell you to feed, feed, and put them in sunlight, and then you go home and try that for another week??

Which I get where he is coming from, we had to have a few tests for our daughter, and each time, we had to keep going home, and doing the above. They never put her under the light, or anything else.

SO he sees it as unnecessary, and cruel.

I am going to be guided by the weight gain this week.


Alrighty, I have blabbed on again.

Take care, everyone, and grow babies grow.

Chat later.

[shockinamillion]

Frocky, Sorry to hear you had a bad run.

Hooves, hope bub keeps the feeds down.

AFM, I saw the paed on friday. He gave me an awesome nappy rash cream and both bubs have infected eyes so I am putting ointment in them. They are sleeping and feeding really well. Sawyer is a little snuffly though.

They have both gained about 300g so I am happy.
1 month old today. One and a half weeks until their due date!!

[BI]

Hi everyone, just thought i'd let you all know that Newidea t.v will be focusing on sleeping all next week.
They'll be having a segment on getting babies to sleep each day.

I thought this might be of some use.

[Hooves]

Thanks for the tip blue iris.:)

Shock, glad your bubs are going so well. :yelclap: That is terrific weight gain.


My boy is doing much better today. He got weighed again, and has gained 180 grams in 5 days.

He is a lot more alert, and is happily feeding from both sides, at almost every feed. We still get the odd sleepy feed.

And his colour is much better.

The midwife, is worried about his fontenelles now. He only has one very small one, and it should be a lot bigger.

I am so hoping, it is nothing to worry about.


I had a friend, in my mothers group, years ago, whose bub had to have an op, because her fontenelles closed up too soon, before her head stopped growing.

BUT it is always one worry or another with babies and children. I think I am a worry wort at the best of times.



Had a little bit of fun and games here over the weekend. Hubby took my boys out motor bike riding, and my 3 year old came off his 4 wheeler and fractured his tibia.


Apart from not being able to use his leg, you wouldn't know he had hurt himself. He is one tough little boy. We have to take him to the ortho in Dubbo to have the cast put on. They will do that Friday. He is currently only wearing a back slab, and bandage.



Hope you are all doing well, and those bubbas are growing, and healthy. AND that you are all getting some sleep.


Don't be afraid to ask for help, rest is very important.

[niks28]

Hey... just checking in to see how everyone is going?

Hooves - Your poor DS....only 3 with a broken leg, how long will he have to have a cast on for? At least its not warm and he wants to swim or anything!

Shock - Great to hear your bubbas are doing well, DD gets weighed tomorrow and I cant wait :laughing:

AFM - Just having a lovely relaxing day on the couch with no visitors! Had a bath with Blair this morning and she was so relaxed, as she was a bit grumpy this morning but I think it was just wind as when we were in the bath she kept on burping and then when we got out she did a huge poo ALL over her towel :laughing: So back in the shower we got!

Oh i just bought some MCN's.... cant wait to get them now!

Hope everyone is having a great day! :sunshine:

[susieq1969]

:wave: Girls!!

Just getting on here quickly to say hi! Will do personals tomorrow

Just to let you all know baby Sam is settling in well, am breast feeding albeit with nipple shields as I have the flatest nipples ever, but he's getting plenty of milk and only lost a tiny bit of weight!

I have never ever felt love like this before. I would do anything for my little man.

He had his first bath today and loved it!! Kicking away and looking around.

Labour was all natural, no drugs, not even gas and air! I amazed myself!! 10 hour labour, spent some of the time in the water, but mostly standing or on the birthing stool which is where I gave birth. An amazing experience.........what's the expression.....oh yes...........

I AM WOMAN HERE ME ROAR!! ( Well the whole of JHH did I think :laughing:)

I'm just so happy to be a mum.

I hope all you other mum's are doing great too!!

:hugs::hugs:

[Sheer Bliss]

Susie - that is so nice to read, you sound like you are on:cloud9: Well done!!

Nik - I used to love having baths with DD, haven't done it with the twins yet, might have to do that on wed when the older kids are at daycare. What MCN's did you get? I got 6 new itti bitti's this week, and they are soooo cute!!

Hooves - glad bubs has gained more weight and is doing well this week.

Shock -glad bubbas are both doing well!

Frocky - glad you are home and doing OK!

AFM - I think i might need to swap bubbas boobs (i have given them one each to help get the supply right for each of them) as DS seems to be attaching badly on his side and its a bit sore. DD seems a bit unsettled the last few days, been awake heaps more, maybe the 6weeks growth spurt a bit early?? She has been on the boob a bot more today and DS has been sleeping more - which is the opposite from last week - LOL, I think they like to keep me on my toes. I think maybe the hard bit is about to hit us, DH goes back to work next week and the bubs are awake more, so needing more attention and supervising the big kids near them - :fingerscrossed: we survive. I haven't really felt like the big cloud of sleep deprivation etc has hit yet, so I am waiting for it to hit anyday. I am still so in love and so happy to have my bubbas that everything seems just awesome. :flowerz:

[Mumofcoops]

Hey ladies,

Just popping in to say hi, haven't had a chance to read much of this thread yet so not sure where everyone is at. We are settling in well, have to supervise DS at all times around DS2 as one minute he will be gentle and then all of a sudden decides it's a good idea to try and roll on him or drag him or headbutt him :doh:

My milk has well and truly come in. Bubs seems to latch on well but it absolutely kills for those first 10-20 sucks...is this normal? It did it with DS too but i never asked anyone about it then. Bubs seems to be a bit of a chucker too so must remember to have towel on hand for all feeds LOL Maybe i have a better flow this time round than with DS??? Might have to try expressing and see how i go. With DS it was very very slow going so i didn't stick it out too long.

He is a bit jaundice so trying to get a few extra feeds into him and sleep him in bassinette next to the window. Hopefully it disappears soon.

Ok, off to feed now. Hope everyone has a good night with lots of sleep :D

[niks28]

CM - I got Itti Bitti's too, do you use snap in or sewn in? I got one fuschia sewn in, one lilac snap in and one pink with white dots :) Think it will be a new obsession!

Just had Blair weighed and she has put 345g on in 6 days, so much for stressing about my milk. But she doesnt like being put down to sleep in her bassinet which makes life hard now as the visitors have stopped!

[sahm]

Hi all, I hope you don't mind me crashing the thread.

Congratulations to all you new mummys!

I have a 2 year old DS and my baby DS2 was born on 9 June.

He's been very settled, for the most part, but even with hubby home on holidays I'm finding it so hard with two.

Are you all first time mummy's or do you have other children too?

I find it so hard to settle DS2 to sleep when he's due, with DS1 running around. He doesn't really understand the concept of "shhh" and I don't know if I should just let him go and have DS2 learn to sleep with the noise.

I've been putting him to sleep in his basinette during the day, but maybe I should just put him in a pram in the lounge room and get him used to the noise?

What are you all doing as far as day sleeping goes?

[shockinamillion]

Hiyas, I am feeding my girl and going out soon so sorry about the lack of personals. Looks like my girl has rather semsitive skin, the ointment for thier eyes gave her a rash and I missed a wet patch on her collar after a feed last night and she has another rash. She gets nappy rash REALLY bad. He is all good though except he arches his back all the time.

Saw the CHN and they have gained another 200gs each.

I got a fancy baby bath and i hate it, it has a neck rest so i cant siupport them comfortably, so I am showering with them, it is lovely and special.
ok got to go hope you are all well.

[Sheer Bliss]

MoC - I had a MUCH better supply with my second too. My advice ont he leaking and chucking (DS1 was a happy chucker) is to get a pack of cloth nappies (the old flat style) and have them handy. I used to fold one a few times and tuck under my bra to catch the drips, and then another over my shoulder while burping. DS1 would projectile though, and it would go everywhere - LOL. So long as it stops hurting, the pain is probably fine. When they do the first sucks, it's drawing your nipple right back into their mouth, and that's a good thing. The pain is usually the nipple stretching and you will probably get used to. If it keeps hurting through the feed it's not good, but the initial pain is (unfortunately) normal.

niks - :laughing: welcome to the obsession!! I got sewn-ins in small, but have snap-ins in medium and large (old ones from DD1 & DS1). I figure the sewn-ins are heaps easier while they are newborn and i don't have as much time, but the snap-ins are a little mire absorbant.

sahm - I try not to get the older kids to be too quiet - bubs need to get used to noise IMO, and once they are it should make things easier when we go out/have noisy visitors etc. I shut the door to the room they are sleeping in, but let my older 2 make thier usual noise.

shock - GREAT on the weight gain!! :yelclap: DD used to always have sweat/spew in the folds in her neck and end up all red and sore, so not pleasant. I assume since you got a cream from the chemist that sudo cream didn't work? that and curash work well for us. We also only use alpha keri oil in their bath, none of those nasty johnsons & johnson products - too much alcohol and nasties for my liking (but the lavender one smells sooooo good, i use it on the older kids)

ETA: Do we want a pics thread int his section or should we post any pics in here: I will put some here for now: first lot - a few weeks old (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid=101468&id=65402656952) and 4weeks (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid=103138&id=65402656952)

[DungeonKeeper]

What are you all doing as far as day sleeping goes?


I am still waiting to have my little one but we have the cot in the main open plan living area with the kitchen/dining/living stuff. We have no idea how this is going to work out with the sounds of cooking and TV and stuff like that. If it doesn't work out I guess he may have to go in a different room in the bassinette part of the pram that comes out.

We are just going to have to see how it works out. All new for us as we are first timers. It would be cool if he can just sleep throuh anything though... a bit like me!

CM and Niks - I have a good stash of MCNs now and can't wait to try them out! Although I am keeping them all away from meconium. I have Itti Bittis, Bumgenius, BabyBeehinds, a blueberry, green kids a couple of others.

[another1]

Hi All

Well yes I've been slack and not posting....with DH still on leave I never have time, he's always wanting to go somewhere....

We've just had our 1st first visit by the clinic nurse and Georgie has gained 257 grams in a week....I think she's getting some good milk. She's been really settled and at the moment is only getting up twice a night, although on Monday night she only got up once, so I can't complain.

Housework isn't happening at the moment, think I need a cleaner but DH reakons I'm just lazy....or spend too much time cuddling!

I love having a baby again...especially a pink one.

I promise I will keep up with personals!

[Hooves]

Lots of posts. I had heaps to reply to, but have run out of time, again.

I have been in here on and off, for the last few hours, but keep getting distracted. So no personals at the moment.

You all seem to be going really well.

I am starting to feel the tiredness, of living with a new born. Seems all those up hormones, are wearing off.:laughing:

I will try and come back later and do some personals.

[Mumofcoops]

Hooves sorry to hear tiredness is kicking in. I was wondering why i was coping so well, LOL, didn't think of the hormones hehe

Another1, sounds like things are going great for you and Georgie is thriving :smiliedance: Must be nice to have a pinkie!!

CM, i hope the pain in nipple on attachment goes away.. I think from memory it did with DS. I don't remember it being like that the whole time i fed him. Can't remember when it eased off though. And OMG i am so jealous of you having a friend that is a prof photographer!!! How cool is that! Your two bubs are just devine!!!

Shock, woohoo on bubs weight gains :D They are doing so so well! I haven't had a shower with bubs yet...i get so worried i'll drop him when he gets all wet and slimy LOL

SAHM i also have a 2yr old DS and have been very lucky that DS2 has been very settled so far! He sleeps heaps and i have just been putting him down in the pram bassinette on the floor in our room or in the lounge room so he gets a bit of both quiet and noise. I'll probably start putting him in his cot soon as i don't want him getting too used to the bassinette. I don't mind DS being his normal loudness i just have to keep an eye on him that he doesn't poke bubs when he's sleeping etc

Niks, Wow, what a great weight gain!!! Now you can stop stressing and just enjoy :)

Things are going great here so far. One question though, is anyone finding their baby is sleeping A LOT?? He feeds and then i'm lucky if i get any awake time before next sleep. Maybe after 2-3 feeds of the day he'll be awake for a bit and the other ones he pretty much just goes from sleep to feed and back to sleep.

[another1]

MoC - Georgie is sleeping lots too....she'll have a bit of awake time in the morning and evening and sometimes during the day but most of the time she's asleep....Alex was the same, he's awake times just slowly got longer, I think we're a bit lucky, there are so many babies who spend too much time awake then they get over tired.

[niks28]

MoC - yes I have been getting alot of awake time :laughing: Like from 1am - 3am this morning, so I gave up trying to get her back to sleep and got up and watched Gossip girl! But now she is fast asleep and probably will be for the next three hours :)

CM - I knew it was going to be a bad thing to start as I have already planned what I will be buying as soon as I get my first BB payment.... It was going to be clothes for me but now I want 5 gorgeous MCN's instead! And your photos are stunning, I think I want some done now.

No new news here.... MIL just bought over chicken soup mmmmm

[Kema]

Yay!!! I Finally Made It!!!

Just popping in girls, I will try my hardest to keep up with everyone as we go along.

My Isla Jae was born on the 15th June by C-Section. I went into labour on the Friday but failed to progress due to CPD, a c-section was schedulled for Monday evening. We were supposed to come home on the saturday but Isla wasn't settling well, my milk came in and we were good as gold so were ready to leave sunday when my staples were being removed I had a hge haematoma burst and had to stay yet another night. Finally we were disharged on monday morinng.

So we have had 3 nights at home, hmmm, interesting....Isla seems to have day and night confused. I'm a llittle concerned that she is suffering from silent reflux actually..:confused:

We had a good night last night though, so I guess we wll just take one step at a time.

Talk soon
Kema:bee:

[iMischa]

hello everyone

thought i would jump on while the pumpkin is sleeping in his swing (rarely stays asleep for long when hes in the cot hmm)

how is everyone doing? i got my staples out today and feel sooo much better, i can actually move now without being in pain so i guess this means hubby wont be getting up in the middle of the night to heat up the bottlys anymore lol.

is anyone else bottle feeding? Oliver takes forever to feed...:| like 30 mins for around 80 mls...could it be the teats are too slow for him? he always just falls asleep during lol after acting like such a pork chop for the bottle in the first place!

ive reactivated my facebook! who else has it and wants to add me?? :D

well i better get going hope everyone is doing well.

<3

[The sooper nanny]

hey guys


sorry you had such a bad experience with your section mischa, sounds horrible..... Im breastfeeding and then topping up with ebm but katelyn is a really good feeder and sucks down a feed in about 10 mins. what bottles are you using? Maybe hes just a bit sleepy, now katelyns 3 weeks Im finding her feeding has improved and she sucks a lot better than she did in the first 10 days, she was jaundiced and I think the diabetes mucked me around as well. I hope things improve, yay for your staples, my sutures are internal disolvable and I think Im almost healed, I dont feel tender anymore. :smiliedance:

Kema-congrats on Isla... I too ended up with a non elective section, katelyns cord was short and my pelvis is narrow apparantly! I thought I could drive a mack truck through my pelvis, just goes to show. How are you recovering?

Niks- why is it these babies want to play at that ungodly hour? Katelyn is slowly learning, Ive started waking her during the day coz shed sleep 5 hours if I left her, then she wants to stay awake at night!

MOC- babies need a lot of sleep at this stage, they should only be awake an hour at a time, its very normal. My DH wants her to be more alert. I said soon youll be wishing she was a newborn again! Poor bubba cant win! :goodvibes:

Hooves- hopoe youre not too tired today

CM- I LOVE your photos, I so want some of Katelyn, DHs not keen GRR

Well, roast is in the oven. Im finding motherhood compared to shift work is much more forgiving. We are very lucky, DH has been so supportive at night. And im loving every minute with my new family. Oh, and my supply is increasing again, hardly any top ups needed today :smiliedance:

[Kema]

Shazzi - Great to hear that you are healing nicely from your caeser. Sounds as though everything iscoming together in your house...:D

Misha - I'm sorry your birth experience was unpleasant...you poor love, I hope you are recovering well. As for feeding Isla takes ages to feed, she can take 20-30 minutes on each side, but I am breastfeeding so I dont know if that makes a difference.

We had the health centre nurse come to the house today. Isla has gained 250g in 5 days!! Feeding is going well except I seem to have a bit of over-supply so need to start expressing a little before her first morning feed. My wound from my casear is not healing really well, the nirse cleaned it up a little and my OB has put me on antibiotics just incase, although I dont have a fever or anything, so I think its just a case of time. We are still struggling a bit with sleeping, some sleeps are so deep we wouldnt even know she was in the room, other times its trying to settle her every 10 minutes....you never know what she is going to do. :p

Anyway - Hope every one is well....
Kema:bee:

[iMischa]

kem - Ollie is exactly the same during the night, hes a perfect angel all day and then from around 12.30am -2am its constant unsettleness... we caved and bought a bassinette because the ammount of times hubby and i get upto him during that time would be just a nightmare going to the other end of the house... but i will admit when hes a few hours from needing a bottle and just being sooky, ive brought him into bed with me and he's out like a light, definitely not something i want to make a habit of tho.

is anyone elses bub fountaining all over the place with every nappy change? as soon as i undo the tabs and pull back the nappy...WHOAAA and it doesnt matter how long before or after a feed we change him, nappy change time was never this hard with ds#1. we've gotta lay down towels, put on rain coats..<lol ok maybe not coats...

[Mrs Awesome]

Hi ladies! Thought it was about time I joined up in here...now that we have settled in at home.
I was MIA for a few weeks in the Due in June forums as most of my time was spent being monitored at the hospital.

For those interested, here is what went down (I already posted this in the Due in JUne Forum, but no one is really there anymore)

Tuesday 16th - Went in to hosp for my regular twice a week fetal monitoring. CTG normal, but scan showed a HUGE drop in amniotic fluid from the previous week, and blood flow was all being redirected to the babies head. This means that the placenta has stopped working properly. I had a 1.30pm appt with my Ob so went straight over to his rooms to see what was going on.

My Ob said straight away that we would be having the baby sooner rather than later and I asked when?? He said "what are you doing this afternoon?". Luckily he gave me time to go home and grab my bags and come back for admission at 4.30pm. Before he sent me home, he did an internal and found I was 1cm dilated and had a favourable (?) cervix.

Admitted that afternoon and given Prostin gel that evening. Was told things might start overnight from the gel, but nothing did.

Wednesday 17th - Taken to Birth suites at 9am and membranes ruptured - I was 2cm dilated at this point. Syntocin drip started soon afterwards. CTG monitoring had to be on constantly, so I was confined to the bed which sucked. Contractions started soon after at 2min apart and stayed that close for the remainder but increased in intensity. After 4 hours of constant contractions, I begged for pain relief but they checked first and found I was 3cm dilated. The midwife estimated I had another 10 hrs or so to go so recommended an epidural which I was happy for.

Epidural went in at 1pm (was horrible as there was no gap between contractions so it was sooo hard to sit still) and took about 15mins to kick in.

My mum arrived at this point and once my pain was under control I decided to have a little snooze, so I sent mum and matt down to get something to eat and drink.

At 4pm my Ob came back to do an cervix check and called my husband to the end of the bed to show him the babies head crowning. In the time since my epidural I had fully dilated and bubs was making his own way out (I ust couldnt feel it cos of the epi). The midwife didnt even have the equipment ready to go yet as she was expecting I would only be 5, maybe 6 cm dilated.

I started pushing at 5pm and 3 pushes or so later, Harrison was born at 5.10pm. The sun was setting outside the window and the room was peaceful, quiet and dimmed. His hand came out next to his head, so caused a few tears (3) on his way out - Ouchie! Harrison didnt breath at first so needed a bit of resuscitation, but picked up fairly quickly.

I am so happy with how it all happened and of course with our beautiful little man. I think I will be requesting my epidural in advance next time. Kudos to those who have natural drug free labours!!

ALmost a week at home now and we are loving being a little family together! Harry is an absolute gem and mostly just sleeps and eats...touch wood he stays so placid.

To those who have sore nipples, I can sympathise....Ouch! Harry has a teeny mouth and I have massive bbs, so we had a bit of attachement probs at the start, now doing well andpain seems to be settling, but still those first few mins of sucking are a killer!

Hope the rest of you are all settling in well at home too. Looking forward to sharing this new phase of our journey with you all.

Aim xx

[GoldLeader]

Congratulations everyone :yelclap:

My baby boy was born on 16 June by cs. We were 14 days overdue and I refused an induction after a very bad birthing experience following induction with my first child. At 13 days overdue my cervix was still 2cm thick, and so a cs was planned for the following day. I had a fabulous birthing experience this time. We had skin to skin contact immediately and breast fed. DH and bub were in recovery with me and then back to our room. We went home the next day and i have healed really well (never experienced any cs related pain).

My boy is feeding well and is a great sleeper...a very placid baby, not at all like dd was. dd is over the moon with her new baby brother.

We did have some jaundice to get rid of, and had to supplement breastfeeding with formula to flush it out. Thankfully there has not been any nipple confusion.

:shakehands: everyone....we have all done a fantastic job and have our beautiful babies at last!

[iMischa]

kema - is your wound leaking at all? theyve done an absolute shocking job on my scar this time around. on one end the scar is like a flap its horrid...and i think its starting to leak a little bit :(:( this is the last thing i need im stressing so bad im so scared they are going to hafto do something painful to it...i cant go through anything like that after what ive been through...ive been reading stories of the leak needing to be packed...i cant go through that no no.. :(:( i just cant deal with that at all no more painful things done there

[The sooper nanny]

mischa I had a lot of bruising after my section and Ob said to expect leakage for up to 2 weeks as long as its not looking infected and you are afebrile. I had a uterine infection so I too was petrified I d get an infection in the wound but lo and behold, exactly 2 weeks, stopped leaking and is now almost healed. Hope it work out for you.... I also purchased some saline (contact lens solution) to clean the wound. Helps to dry it out, good luck

[Kema]

Hi Girls,

We have had a busy few days and I find it so hard to get on here and post...I have been reading though.

Misha - I read your birth story...you poor thing, I dont blame you for mot wanting them to do anything else...:hugs: My wound is still leaking, Isla is now 2 weeks old and it is still weeping. I had a midwife come to the house last week and she cleaned it and put new steri-strips across the edges, she has left the middle part open so that it can drain. Apparently it should just be fluid by now but it is still blood stained so I will have my GP check it out tomorrow when I get my whooping cough booster. The midwife also rang my OB and he put me on antibiotics just incase I got an infection. I wash mine with saline twice a day but I think all the moving around looking after a new baby pulls at it and makes healing that bit harder. Hope you can get things sorted soon.

Goldleader - Sounds like everything is going great for you and your little man...congrats!!

Buddy - Congrats on the birth of Harry!! :yelclap: I have been really lucky BF wise but I have flatish nipples so that first couple of sucks are a bit intense...soI understand that pain...OUCH!!!

We have also put the bassinette by our bed...I was going to keep Isla in her cot in her room but I was getting up to every little grizzle and sometimes all it takes is a hand on her tummy to settle her. :fingerscrossed: she keeps up the sleeping patterns that she has had over the last couple of days...she feeds every 2.5-3 hours during the day but can then go a 5-6 hour at night, it'd be great if she keeps that up!!

I cant believe how much I love this little girl, she is just amazing!! :cloud9:

Hope everyone else is well.
Talk soon,
Kema:bee:

[Hooves]

Hi all, I have been coming in and catching up, but I haven't had time to post. I always get called away.

Oh my gosh life has just gotten hectic. Bub is so unsettled lately, especially at night. It is exhausting.


Buddy, I read your post on the other thread, sorry you felt over looked, hun. It was just before Mischas birth story too.

I am so glad you and bub are both well.


Mischa, I have had no leakage at all. Maybe that is because the doc used one continuous stitch. I am not sure what to offer as far as advice, but I can so totally understand your fear, :hugs::hugs::hugs:.

I have been washing mine with anti bacterial hand wash. Triclosan, or something, it has the same ingredient as the pre op wash. Then I have been using a hair dryer to make sure it is dry. AND because I have a verandah, (belly flap) over the top, I have been using a clean chux cloth, to put under my belly flap, to keep it dry.

Not sure if you can do that with a weeping wound.


Kema things sound like they are going so well for you, too.



I just wish my bub, would get his wind up, seems we got the reflux, kind of under some control, and now we have bowel wind. AND he just screams and screams, with that. I have been sleeping him, sitting up on my chest, and I have spent a few nights sitting in the recliner. I don't like this at all, at the moment. :(


:fingerscrossed: tomorrow, is a better day.

Hope you are all well, and not too tired, or run off your feet.

[Mrs Awesome]

Hooves - I wasnt feeling overlooked at all, just wasnt sure if anyone was really reading the other threads. MW's story was way more deserving of comment than mine....poor thing MW, I hope you are starting to feel better.

Kema - Its much easier having the bassinet in your room isnt it??? I can pretty much fix Harry without even getting out of bed.

Gold leader - You little boy sounds like mine...very placid...sooo nice!

Bummer on the bubbies who are not sleeping at night. We have had a few nights of restlessness, but luckily it not really crying or screaming, just constantly wanting to suck. I spoke to the MCHN about this and she said its normal for BF bubs to want to suck more between 6pm-10pm as they are trying to get u to release homrmones that make u produce more milk for the morning feed. Unfortunately some bubs have this time later at night instead (like harry was), so to try feeding them more frequently after lunchtime 2.5-3hrs until bedtime to try to trick them back into having this restless period earlier in the evening. Hmmmmm, not sure if I believe it, but seemed to work for us last night.

To those with sore C/S wounds, sorry I have nothing to offer as I havnt experienced it. My only nurse advice is to try to keep it as clean and dry as possible and rest as much as possible which I am sure u are all doing. If you notice it redder around the edges or feeling hot or if you have a temp, get it seen to ASAP, as it is possibly infected.

A BF question.....
Im totally confused now, as the MCHN who did our home visit last week told me to stop feeding Harry 15mins each side then topping up as he was putting on enough weight. She said to feed until empty on one side to avoid blocked ducts and mastitis then to offer the other side (he never wants it though). Then for next feed to offer the opposite side first. She said that this way he would be getting the hind milk which would help him put on more weight.

Then my MCHN visit yesterday a different MCHN made me feel about 1cm tall and told me I could be a "lopsided" mummy if I wanted but that was not the correct way to do it. She told me they get hind milk after the let down is finished and that I should feed for less time on both sides and not bother to try to empty bbs as this wasnt possible.

Now Im confused.........the first advice seems to be working......20-25mins on one side, then usually not interested in 2nd side (occasionally will suck for a few mins on 2nd side). To be honest, the pain at the start of each side is enough for me to want to keep him on one side only for each feed...I dont want to go through that twice each feed.

So ladies....what do you think??? (hopefully I have made some sense)

[iMischa]

buddy- im not BF but i have asked friends and family memebers who have for advice (when i was hoping to) all of them have said...one booby until its empty then offer the other(if the baby wants it)...even if they have 5 mins on the other booby that will be the boob to offer next time until its empty also... about 6 woman have told me its how they do it so it must be working for them.

i went to the drs about my wound its not infected but they have dressed it for me and ive gotta go back in 2 days to have it re dressed and to have it looked at so i feel much better not having to guess whats wrong wondering if i do nothing will it get worse etc.

i think the cold is what is contributing to bubba wakeing up through the night (when its not feed time) coz the minute he gets under our covers he's out like a light, ive tried layering his clothes and blankeys but im scared to over heat him!

[The sooper nanny]

Amy damn those midwives, health nurses who give you conflicting advice... GRRR what school did they train at? You have been doing exactly the right thing by draining one side then offering the other the next feed. The hind milk is at the end of a feed. Continue what youve been doing, youre doing a great job and dont let anyone confuse you!! Makes me angry when people upset someones routine with the wrong advice... :hair:

[Sheer Bliss]

:wave: I am not reading the other thread much, sorry. If i get time i'll skim, but not having time to reply, it's a bit hectic here ATM! I am sure it will settle down...one day :D.

buddy - :iagree:with what shazzi and mishas said. I have always done it that way....drain one boob, then offer the other, and start from the other at the next feed. Pretty much never take a baby off a boob, leave them on until THEY let you know they are finished. DS fed for 19months like that, and i didn't get lopsided. They get enough milk that way (well, mine HAVE to, as they only ever get one side each LOL, DS 'owns' my left ond, DD the right :laughing:) and the hindmilk is the good fatty part.

mishas - glad you don't have an infection, that;s the last thing you need after what you have been through.

Hooves - both mine have been a bit unsettled at night too. From about 7pm they just want to be cuddled - which is fine while DH is home, we have one each, but if he is working overtime or when he is on arvo shift (in 3weeks) it will be fun!

Kema - we have the cot in our room too, sooo much easier to re-settle quickly. We have a music/light show thing on the cot, and i can re-start it without getting out of bed - loving that!

GL - sounds like you and bubs are doing beautifully! Congrats!

We are still doing OK. Eli is a bit unsettled, and it turns out he has a lingual (sp?) hernia. It's wehre the tube his testes descended in hasn't closed off properly, and part of his bowel falls into it. It hurts him a bit when he poops sometimes, but it pops in and out. Spoke to the paed last night, and he is going to try and organise a surgeon to have it operated on before it gets stuck/infected. It can strangulate his bowel if left too long, so we don't want that. Not happy about my boy having to have an operation, but so long as it is to help him....

LOVING my slow cooker ATM, it makes it easier of a night time to get 4 little bodies bathed, fed and into bed! It's the type of cooking I can do with a baby in a sling safely (we have a gas stove and i can't cook safely with bubs on the front of me) so it's working well. I should be catching up on all my folding ATM...couldn't be a55ed though...i need my rest more than folded clothes don't I?? lol Hope you are all well, and as in love as i am!

[Hooves]

Buddy,:iagree: with the other girls too. You are doing it right, I feed that way too. Be guided by the weight gain. If you swap sides all they fill up on is the foremilk, any way. AND the hind milk is what keeps them full for longer. You are doing a great job, judging by the weight gain. Well done.


Mischa, I am glad you got your wound looked at. Must be such a relief, knowing it is ok.



Even though it isn't nice, I am glad some other mums are doing the night time, unsettled bit too. I am soooooo tired, my poor boy has been suffering from bowel wind, and OMG, the screaming. The last two days, have been horrendous. Last night was much better, but still took us ages, to get him to sleep.


Cm, sorry to hear about your little boys problems, and no surgery is not nice, but hope it helps him soon. Good that they picked it up so early.

AND yes thank good ness for slow cookers. I have hubby around for one more week, and then he is off to work again. AND I have no idea, how I am going to cope.

BUB is so needy of an afternoon, and I am so tired in the mornings. I come good just after lunch time, and then bub starts up again, about 3pm.

Somewhere in all that, I am going to need to get dinner organised.

I may be feeding my family at midnight at this rate.

I have got to get organised, this week, just so I know we can all cope.

[2pink 1on way]

Hello ladies,

I just read all the last posts but with my baby brain i have no idea what everyone wrote but i will try to do some personals.

Charlis - Poor little Eli, must be hard seeing him in pain when he is doing a poo, when do you think they will do the op, sounds like you are staying strong about the whole thing. My bub doesnt sleep after his 4.00pm feed and gets a bit grumpy at 5.30 to 7.00 when its cooking dinner time, bath time and bed time for the other 2, but the sling does work a treat on the bad days, must be hard having two cranky but iam sure you will work it out on your own when you have too.

Buddy - :iagree: i feed the same way aswell and i am not loop sided some times one does feel more full but no one esle can tell. i use the fullness to tell which side to feed off next and i have taken to wearing one of my DD plastic braclets to help me know which side to feed off. If you dont properly empty your boob you can end up with mastitis.

Hooves - i have found getting more organsised does help, i have to get off my bub in the morning and get the house cleaned and washing done as i know i wont in the avo, i also cook most meals at lunch and reheat them for dinner, pasta dishes are great for this or we have easy quick meals.

AFM - things are going better then expected around here, i thought i would be run off my feet having 3 young kids, but things are going pretty smoothly although i am alot more buzy, My older 2 are playing nicely with each other at the moment and bubs sleeps all the time. I have been extremly lucky to have a baby that sleeps alot at night and will resettle fast after a feed, i actually got to sleep from 10.30pm till 4am last night but didnt sleep much after that cause at 5 DH went to the bathroom and woke me just after i fell back to sleep then at 5.30 DD2 came into our room and i put her back to bed then DH alarm went off at 6 and the kids woke up and my day started so i am a bit tired and its not really because of bub it beacuse of everyone else in teh house.

I feed bub every 3 hours through the day and i have to wake him for his next feed, i do this to try to get him full so he will sleep through the night it is working very well so far.

:hugs: to everyone who has a baby who is confused about day and night hope they learn the difference soon for you.

[another1]

Buddy - I agree with the others....finish one side before offering the other, with mine I've always done one side, then changed them (to wake them again) then offer the other side, if they don't want it they don't have it...its cal demand feeding so if baby wants more or less at each feed then its fine, babies know how to self regulate not like us adults who'll eat if there's food (especially chocolate!)

Mischas - good idea having the wound checked...hope it will heal soon for you. Have you tried the sleeping bags/sacks? Georgie loves her Babu Bundler....they are great.

CM - sorry to hear about your little man...hopefully they can fix it before it becomes too much of a problem

Hooves - :hugs: on the wind...its not nice to have upset babies. I might need to look at these slow cookers....

Well my DH has gone back to work this arvo...yay for giving him afternoon shifts...not, leave me to get 4 to bed! Oh well it was bound to happen at some stage its just my lovely new car is having problems and I cant drive in until its fixed and we are waiting on parts....not happy

Georgie is settling in really well, most of the time she's happy, sleeping ok. She loves her play time especially tummy time and our sons have adapted really well to her.

We're going "home" (back to Tasmania) next week for 12 days so that will be nice to catch up with family who havent seen her yet.

Hope everyone else is managing ok.

[shockinamillion]

Hi guys, wow this thread is starting to move fast.

CM, I did not realise from the MM thread it was so icky. Poor Eli. Hope it gets sorted soon, and hugs in advance for the tears when he goes in for it.

MW, booger about the scar, a couple of the stitches in mine have not disolved and now I am having a few trouble, I told the middie in the hospital those stitches weren't right and she did not believe me. Hope it heals up soon.

Sorry not too many personals, if I missed you I apologise.

AFM, Bubs are doing well, a little unsettled today as mum has been down and we have been out and about a lot. My little girl looks like she has a hernia also, but a midrif one, I had one and had it operated on, looks like we will have matching scars. My mum noticed it and pointed it out, I will show the doc next week when they have their vaxxes. It is only visible when she cries and they will most certainly cry.
They are both on antibiotic drops for BAD gunky eyes and Sery has a rash that a doc said is a hormone rash, but he barely looked at her and was not my usual doctor. I am going to ask my doctor next week if it is still there.

[Mrs Awesome]

Thanks for your advice ladies. I felt like what I was doing was right, but you know how dumb some people can make you feel.....and Im a health professional myself, so I prob have slightly more idea than some. Makes me cross!!!

CM - I think the type of hernia you boy has is called an Inguinal hernia. They can be pretty painful for littles boys who have them...luckily they are thinking of operating soon. Whilst no-one wants their bub to have surgery, as far as operations go, this is a relatively small operation, with a quick recovery time. Bubs will prob be able to feed soon after the op if all goes well. Good luck...keep us up to date!

2pink, another 1, hooves CM and MW - GOD! I dont know how you guys do it looking after more than one kid at a time! I take my hat off to you. Poor Harry is lucky if he is dressed by midday and he is a GOOD baby and I only have him to look after. Must start getting out of bed earlier!! LOL

MW - Glad its not an infection!!

AFM - Harry has an ultrasound on his kidney tomorrow to follow up from the problem they found on scans inutero. Hopefully its improved or no bigger or he may need surgery or at the least a long course of antibiotics.

[Sheer Bliss]

CM - I think the type of hernia you boy has is called an Inguinal hernia. They can be pretty painful for littles boys who have them...luckily they are thinking of operating soon. Whilst no-one wants their bub to have surgery, as far as operations go, this is a relatively small operation, with a quick recovery time. Bubs will prob be able to feed soon after the op if all goes well. Good luck...keep us up to date!

LOL, yup that's it! After our appt with the paed DH said he thought he said a linguine (as in pasta) hernia, and I can't get that out of my head so remembering the real name for it is hard! The paed didn't call back today, which is a bugger, hopefully something is happening though.

It IS moving fast in here, just popping in quickly as i am going to make the banana and boysenberry tea cake he made on Alive and cooking yesterday - and needed the ingredients to buy when I go shopping tomorrow. Wish me luck, i am dropping the older kids at daycare, then taking the twins - eek!

[niks28]

Hey everyone, just popping in to say Hi and hope your doing well.... Very boring here, DD is asleep in her bassinet at the moment and I put lamb shanks in the slow cooker this morning so dont even have to cook dinner! So just reading about MCN's and waiting for Masterchef to start :laughing:

Another1 - Hope you got your 4 lil ones to bed alright! I was so scared when DP went back to work but DD and I have settled into a good routine and dont get out of bed till 10 now!

CM - Hope you found the time to make the tea cake, sounds delicious! I just made choc chip cookies.... so yummy straight out of the oven.

Buddy - Hope your appt goes well tomorrow :)

And Hi to MW, Shock, 2Pink, Shazzi, Hooves and anyone else reading and not posting :)

[Hooves]

2pink things sound like they are going really well for you. My third bub was like that too. It got that way, we often had to go check on him, just because he was always too happy, and quiet.

another1 Hope you can get the kids to bed, and settled. I am sure you will work it all out. I am frightened of hubby going back to work. He works long hours, and is often gone before the kids get up, and home, after they are in bed. Makes life hard, sometimes.

Shock, Awww I hope bubs eyes clear up soon, and Sery's rash, goes away. Poor Sery having a hernia too. :hugs: Hope they are more settled today.

Buddy, :fingerscrossed: Hope all goes well for Harry.

Cm, How did you go, making that cake? sounds delicious, hope you got to enjoy a piece, with a cuppa, and a rest.

Niks you sound very organised. LOL. Where would we all be without the slow cooker. LOL


Well I finally got a really good sleep. Ryan with a little fussing around, finally brought up all his wind, and slept (pardon the pun) like a baby. OMG, I got 5.5 hours and then 4 hours. Last night. I feel human again.

He is a little fussy this arvo though. BUT I am so :fingerscrossed: we have a not too bad night. I can handle a bit of sleep deprivation, ( I am used to it) but I can not do day after day, of little sleep.

We actually got out of the house a little today. Not game enough to attend the toy sale at big w though. OMG, the line up at layby was horrendous. We just grabbed a pressie for our daughter birthday. AND left. It was good to get out of the house.


Hope you are all well. Hope all the babies are giving you a chance to rest, sometimes. :hugs:

[iMischa]

we went to big w today as well to have a look around plus to get some cheapy bottles for bub, the early childhood nurse said no way should it be taking almost an hour for bub to have his bottle and its probably the teat (typical...damn expensive bottles) and we couldnt get into the isle because it was part of the layby line route...it was wrapped around the whole store and some lady said she'd been in the line for 4 hours..lol horrible. so we picked a few things for ds#1 and put them on the CC...we'll pay that off instead of the layby!

got bubba weighed and measured today he's put on 200g since birth and grown 2 cms...heehee.

hmm hubby is bugging me to get off the puter so better run hope everyone is well.

[The sooper nanny]

hi ladies

I hope everyone is going well and your babies are being kind to you and youre getting some sleep.

Ive come for a whinge so Im sorry. The story is I commenced on medication after the birth to help my supply and since then have been bfing, expressing, topping up and using a little bit of formula. Well I went back to the Bfing centre yesterday and basically everything I was doing was re-analysed and apparantly my daughter has a small tongue tie which isnt a 'true tongue tie' so I ask you how can it be a tongue tie??? Anyway.... recommended I use a nipple shield, no formula (katies gained 880 grams since birth) and I was told to stop using a dummy and basically made me question everything I was doing.

Not only that but I borrowed some scales and was doing weighs before and after a feed, and according to that katelyn was only taking 18mls with the nipple shield. SO.... I did what any sane person would do.... threw the nipple shield across the room, and had a tantrum. Now I am doing what I was doing orginally and I am STICKING to what I believe in and what I want to do. I felt like I wasnt enjoying feeding her anymore after that appointment. Im not going back for anymore follow up. Im confident in what Im doing, and katie is thriving.

Anyway after discarding the nipple shield, katelyn is taking 70ish mls from the breast so Im happy :) I was also repremanded for expressing the occasional feed so Dh could feed her... well I say pfffft to the lactivist! :thumbsdown:

Sorry for the rant. But I get so frustrated. I guess I put extra pressure on myself because of my job. Anyone else had problems with supply?

[iMischa]

*hugs 4 shazzi* nothing worse than being made to feel as tho u are doing something wrong when u have nothing but the best interest in mind for your child. if what u are doing is working for you and your baby then of course it is the right thing to do. pfft to know-it-alls who really dont know that much. boooo!!

my ollie boo has a slight tongue tie as well his tongue instinctively goes up instead of out which could lead to speech issues *oh dear...i already have one who has speech issues* the early child nurse today is organising him to be seen by a speech therapist to see if its bad enough to get cut altho tbh the idea of anyone coming near him with anything that cuts..just really upsets me :(

[Mrs Awesome]

Grrrrr to lactavists Shazzi!! You go Girl!! Do what you feel is right and it will all work out. Its crap how that can make you feel like you are a bad mum though...no fair!

Hooves - Glad u got a good nights sleep with Ryan...amazing how a bit of decent sleep can make u feel a whole lot better.

MW - I amavoiding Big W and Kamart like the plague whilst the toy sales are on....it makes people CRAZY!!! LOL

AFM - Harry slept pretty good again last night...Yay!! He had his scan on his kidney yesterday...basically the problem is still there...no better, no worse. We have to see the paediatrician in 6 weeks to see where to go from here. Luckily his other kidney is perfect, so for the time being its not something we have to stress about.

I cant believe how much more I notice germy people hanging around now I have little Harry. At the hospital I felt like everyone near us was either coughing or sneezing or had on a face mask (swine flu!!) .....Its making me a tad paranoid....Harry wouldnt cope well with a cold right now, he is just too small still.

Harry weighs 2.830gms now, so he is slowly putting on weight, but is still smaller than the 3rd percentile.....scrawny little man!

[shockinamillion]

What is tongue tie, my sawyer ALWAYS puts his tongue up, even the exercises I have been doing won't put it down.
I still have milk and would have them at the breast if we could work it out. I am going to ask about it on Tuesday.

Anyway, Sawyer has been very unsettled today, so I am hoping he settles tonight so we can sleep.

Shazzi, :hugs: go you for doing what you think is right.

[iMischa]

from my understanding tongue tie is when the webbing under the tongue prevents them from moving their tongue past their lips, which as everyone knows is pretty vital to breastfeeding correctly...poor ollie boo just couldnt do it...and unlike the woman in the breastfeeding videos i do not have machine gun bullet nipples lol. (really...i had no idea how big nipples were lol mine are so flat compared)

[The sooper nanny]

youre right mischa theres a membrane under the tongue and basically it determines how far you can poke your tongue out. I just dont understand how a baby can have a tongue tie thats not a 'true' tongue tie. Seems like a lot of stress for nothing.

Ive been up since 0430 am!!! GRR its now 6am and Katelyn is still awake... I gave up and got up so DH can sleep. Ive only got to meet friends today, he has to work and was up til 1am so Im gonna let him sleep. Has anyone elses baby grown before their eyes? I swear Katelyn is..... shes not little anymore and she has a beer belly.....

[Sheer Bliss]

:wave: sorry for being mia.....awww crap, no time to reply atm, eli on the boob and i just heard lexi cry, so better go bbl, :hugs: to everyone.

[iMischa]

last night was the first time i was strict about not bringing ollie in with us and keeping him in his bassinette and settling him while hes in there, lol...oh dear....barely got any sleep... he pee'd through for the very first time last night, mustn't have positioned his doodle straight down, it went through two suits and his wrap...so i changed him gave him his bottle...then he starts pooping :| so i change him again and he pee's everywhere while the nappy is off and then shoots a poop out that lands on his wrap...lol omg :| all at 3am the whole time he is loudly whinging haha...but i didnt cave yay he stayed in his bassinette alll nighttttt woooooooo! i'm going to keep at it no matter how much sleep (if any) i get.

i havent noticed any change in his size yet, but he's only 2 weeks today, i judge by how his clothes fit and they all seem to be fitting the same! but it is true they dont stay tiny for long.

speaking of tiny, awww harry issss tiny!! must be hard getting clothes to fit him? im sorry to hear his kidney prob hasnt gone away, and im sorry to hear about the twinsies hernia's :( my mum had a hernia when she was a baby...a big balloon would rise out of her belly button when she cried...id be so scared they'd burst!! *big hugs to everyone*

hooves...hoping u got another good nights rest with bub, not being able to bring up wind can be so so painful for them and heartbreaking for you when everything u try doesnt seem to work. i seem to be very lucky, no wind issues, no spews etc. i hope things gets better soon!


welll im about to change the dressing on my wound..not looking fwd to it, yesterday it was just a big smear of blood on it (sorry gross) so im hoping it hasnt come open any more?? :| worst cs experience ever...my first one, while emergency went so unbelievably smooth (the recovery) never once felt dragged down by it at all. this one...complete opposite :| no one ever better tell me i took the easy way out or i might just lose it lol

[Sheer Bliss]

Mischas - if anyone DARES to tell you you took the easy way - I rekon you could get away with punching them!! Well done on being strong and keeping O in his bassinette! I have been the opposite and kicked DH out of bed the last 2 nights so I can have the babies in it! It's too hard/not safe to have both of them in with the 2 of us, so I jsut kicked him out - lol. Means I got more sleep and he wasn't disturbed each time either, so thats good.

Shazzi - :hugs:on the confusing advice!! It is so frustrating when you get told to try something different when you ara happy with what is working! Using the nipple shield long term is not good advice for b/f, so getting rid of it (if you were ready to) was a great idea. Dumping the dummy can be good advice for increasing your supply, but it's something i could never do, and if you are happy with what you are currently doing, there is no point in messing with it! Go with what feels best for you. DS1 had a tounge tie, and our paed stretched it with a paddlepop stick thing when he was 6days old, it helped enough to encourage a better suck, and he told us to get him to stick his tounge out often and that would help too. I'd get a paed to look at it rather than a CHN.

shock - Eli has been unsettled the last few days too. Ihave borrowed a hug-a-bub froma friend to try, as the sling we have is a bit much on my back after a while. He is sound asleep in it ATM, Lexi is in the cot though, lucky she is an angel!! Hope you get some sleep soon!

buddy - glad the kidney problem isn't any worse - hope you get some good answers at the paed.

hooves - I sent my mum to the sales for me!! She wanted to get a few things for our kids anyway, so my sis and I gave her a list and page numbers of the stuff we wanted from the catalogue! So with my dad and cousin in tow, they went racing in (yup, they were some of the crazy people!! haha) yesterday! Glad i didnt' go, as the twins and DD1 would have been with me, and they ended up with 2 trolley's full! At least that's half our christmas shopping done now! Hoping to make it to K-mart tomorrow....am springing that little surprise on DH!!

I finally made that cake this morning, haven't had a piece yet though! lol. DS1 loved it though. DH is doing his first double shift since being back at work (16hrs) so i am alone with 4kids for the dinner/bath/bed thing tonight! EEK! It's already off to a slow start, been up since 3am with Eli andhe is now asleep in the hug a bub against me as he is so sooky, poor boy. Not sure what his problem is, but i have a cold and cough, so suspect its bugging him too.

Better go, DS1 is in bed, and DD1 has just put a DVD on for us to watch (disney princesses - wow, lol) so better get some rest and give her some attention! She is a good girl, and is quite patient with sharing her time with mummy, but her behaviour is terrible when i dont' spend enough time with her! Hope you all have a great weekend. :flowerz:

[GoldLeader]

Shazzi - I am having problems with supply. We had to top up with formula at every feed in the first week to flush out jaundice. We are now breastfeeding at most feeds but still also topping up with a bottle at about 8pm and 7am feeds. He drains my breasts first and still needs more at those times so I give him the bottle. I am not going to breastfeeding clinic or a lactation consultant because I know how much pain we will have to go through to get rid of the last two bottles. We are happy enough and he is still getting plenty of breast milk. I do have a concern that he will learn to favour the efficiency of the bottle though...dd did that at 4 months and ended up weaning herself.

[Hooves]

Hi ladies, just dropping in, trying to ignore my three year old. Tantrum throwing to the max tonight. :hair:

Shazzi, I think Katelyn is doing great, what ever you are doing is working for you. So pfffttttt to the natzi.

Buddy glad that Harry's kidney is no worse. Poor little boy, hope something can help him soon. AND yep, I too am noticing all the germy people around. As desperate as I have been to get out, and about, I am also, not out long, too many sick people.

Shock, I am glad you asked about the tongue tie. My boy does the tongue to the roof of the mouth thing too. But he can stick his out. But all this talk of tongue tie, made me wonder if that is why first attachment, is always painful for me. I always have to break him off, and patiently re attach him. OR else, OUCH! he chews.

Hope sawyer settled for you, and you got some sleep. The milk thing, is interesting, let us know how you get on, would be good if you could feed some of the time.


Mischa, WOW, you sound like you are going really well. Lots stronger then me, by half way through the night, if bub is still not settling, I am either sleeping him, in our bed, or sleeping on the recliner with him. LOL You do what works for you.

LOL at all the night changing dramas. :laughing: He has good timing, at any rate.

Your wound sounds like it is starting to heal, for you.


CM, that cake sounds heavenly. All the talk of cake, and I decided to buy a caramel mud cake, for dessert tonight. LOL mmmmmmm

Hope you finally got a slice.

I am hoping to hit the toy sale, on Saturday.

All these unsettled babies, could it be over stimulation? I am finding Ryan gets over stimulated quickly. All the kids, or if I have to go somewhere. The arvo, is awful.

Speaking of Ryan, I started him on Infacol tonight. Hoping it helps too. I am noticing, though that he is starting to self burp a little.

GL, I forget , how big is your bub? A little formula to get you through those rough times, really won't hurt, as long as you offer the breast often, too. To boost supply, you could try expressing, after a feed, (when you have the time). And don't forget to drink lots and lots of water.

Also I think you can add flaxseed meal, to your meals, and that helps too. Check out the breast feeding section.

Hopefully your supply and bub work it out, long before bub learns that the bottle is easier. :hugs:


I had Ryan's 4 week check today. He gained 340 grams, in 9 days. :smiliedance: And I have been finding that feeding and burping, him, often while feeding him, helping heaps. Also I have been doing the room temp cooled boiled water, and that is helping heaps too. With the water, I am finding, it seems to attract all the air bubbles, and then I can hear a big air bubble, and then I have been chasing that up. AND he does a huge burp, settles, and sleeps, heaps better.

:fingerscrossed: It stays better. I love this 4 hours at night.


MY 3 year old, is starting to become really naughty, for attention. I know he is missing me, but he only seems to want me, when I can't give him attention.

Hubby, decided to stay out at the work shop, and work on his motor bike, so tonight all 4 of them are mine. I got movies, a special dinner, and a treat for them.

Straight after their movies, I decided ok, early bed time. And they were all ready and happy to go to bed, then master 3 really played up a treat.

Lots of toilet trips, screaming, etc. It is hard, cause he is the one with the fractured leg, (he can walk, run and climb on this leg) and is playing on the fact that his leg hurts. Seems to only hurt, when he doesn't want to do something.:confused:

He has finally given up, and gone to sleep now. All in the time, it has taken me to write this epic. LOL


Night all. Hope you are all enjoying a bit of sleep, and great times with your babies, and families. These are such special days, hang on to them.

[Hooves]

Oh my gosh sorry my posts are all novels. :eek:

[Sheer Bliss]

:laughing: thats ok, makes me not feel so bad as mine can get long too!! 3yo tantrums - such fun - lol.

soooo tired here, 2hrs sleep last night, i am close to getting dh to feed them one night, but i need to stop being lazy and express some more for that!!

[Hooves]

CM, that is one rough night. Hope you guys all get some rest tonight.

[iMischa]

hello mummys

oh dear my ollie boo has a cold how is this possible i dont know... ive done everything i possibly could to keep it from happening and now his nose is blocked and he wants his dummy so bad but as soon as i give it to him it forces him to snort so so bad and then he cries *sigh* we've gotten this salene (sp?) spray for babies from the chemist that comes with this sucker outerer thingo...u spray up there nose (its gentle) and then suck the snot n such out...i could not believe the ammount of stuff that came out at 3am(its all white i hope he isnt going to get an infection) i was shocked but it made for an easier next few hours...now its back to full on blocked again :( my poor lil guy.

hope everyone got some sleep last night *hugs*

[Hooves]

Awwww Mischa, that is no good to hear, about the cold.

Don't worry, about using the saline stuff, use it as often as you need to.

My 3rd got a cold quite early on too, and we used that stuff as often as we needed, it worked great.

Not much fun though, I know.

Hugs to you and Ollie, poor little mite.

Hopefully he is well again soon.

[Kema]

Hi Girls,

Mischa - Sorry to hear that Ollie has a cold...poor little thing, if only they could blow their noses. Hope the saline helps. You definately didnt take they easy way out, I dont get that sort of comment, c-sections are full on without any complications let alone what you have been through. My caeser wound is still open and weeping, I think it will probably take til my 6 week check up to heal completely...I find washing it with saline is the best way to keep it clean. Hope yours starts healing soon.

Hooves - I dont know how you handle a newborn and 3 year old tantrums at the same time...:confused: I find that Isla is more unsettled if she has had a busy day, lots of visitors want to come and see her and sometimes I think we are setting ourselves up for drama, I think that overstimulation is definately the reason for some of our unsettled nights :yes: Thankfully people have started to ease off with visits, so settling hasn't been so hard.

Charlismum - Hope you got more sleep last night...:hugs:

GL - Hope that your supply kicks up a notch and you can continue to breastfeed. I think sometimes its harder for mum when babies wean themselves, but I think you are doing everything right...I just hope that you can feed for as long as you would like.

AFM - We have been so busy sometimes I wonder what I did befor Isla was born. We were at the MHN on Wednesday and Isla has lost weight...I'm heading back tomorrow to re-weigh her so fingers crossed she has put on some weight. She feeds like a little champion, every 2-3 hours during the day and about every 4 hours at night. She is getting about 8 feeds a day, and is attached for about 45 minutes each time, she also takes both breasts at each feed. I was on antibiotics for 5 days and during that time she had lots of pooey nappies so I am hoping that it was just the antibiotics upsetting her tummy, I have been off them since Tuesday so :fingerscrossed: I really dont think its a supply issue as I have to express before her morning feed so she doesnt choke on the letdown. Anyone have any ideas??

Hi to everyone I have missed, personals are so much harder with a newborn...lol.
Kema:bee:

[The sooper nanny]

Mischa I certainly wouldnt call a section the easy route... the recovery for me has been difficult at times and very frustrating, not being able to drive or lift and getting pain if I do too much. Im sorry to hear Ollie is sick. That FESS spray is really good. Hope he feels better soon xo

CM thanks for your advice on the nipple shield. I only use it if I absolutely have to... but Im sticking to my guns and doing it my way. I have the knowledge and the routine down pat.... I just have to believe in my self and have confidence in my feeding. I havent had to give katelyn hardly any formula all week, so my supply is just meeting her needs with top ups occasionaly of EBM.


Hooves- yay for Ryans weight gain...boo for the tantrums.

gold Leader sounds like the top ups are working for you... Im a midwife and whilst I fully support breastfeeding I truly believe the odd bit of formula has its place. We never would have done so well without it... ( my milk came in on day 5!) and Ive been struggling with supply ever since. I think youve just got to do what works for you and your bubba.

Kema...I know what you mean about not knowing what you did before bubs were here. I think the days are flying!! Katelyn seems to thrive on visitors and going out and the more stimulation she gets, the better she sleeps... its funny how their personalities are different already.

AFM doing really well - Katie slept for nearly 6 hrs last night!! :smiliedance:We are enjoying her so much!! She is in 000 clothes now!!! My beautiful girl is growing up too fast!!

[DungeonKeeper]

Yay! I can finally post here properly as I have my little one with me!

I shall have to read a few pages and do some personals! Just saying :wave: for the moment.

[bubbybean]

Hi All,

Yeah ! I have finally caught up with the 10 pages of posts and have 5 mins to post myself!
Mason was born on 10th June at 6lb 12oz and doing really well. I am adjusting slowly but is so much easier now we are on bottles only.
Had a really hard time of it feeding in hospital and decided on day 5 to give it up and we both got 100% better by discharge on day 6. Was a hard decision to make but my body just didn't argee with bf and i felt like i was alergic to the hormones and milk!:confused: couldn't think straight was a mess generally and the cold shivers and crawling skin just didn't help either. Anyone else have similar probs?

Anyway hubby goes back to work tomorrow so I will really miss him helping out. He has been really great the whole time since labour:hugs:. Love him lots more then ever before.

Anyway, the alarm/baby is starting to go off so that was my time limit today! Hope to post again soon.:wave:

[another1]

Hi All

Been so busy no time for personals

Georgie is growing well 390 grams in a week....oops too good a milk!

We're off on our 1st interstate trip on Thursday, we're taking her back to Tassie to meet the relatives and have her Baptised...not looking forward to the cold. Hopefully we'll have a smooth trip!

Having 4 is a handful but we are working out a routine to suit, unfortunately it means sometimes Georgie just have to fit in. School runs, footy training etc just have to get done...there's a lot of breast feeding and nappy changes in the car, luckily she seems not to fussed about it all.

Hope everyone is well.

[niks28]

Hey everyone!

Shazzi - Blair is in 000 too and she is 8 days younger than Katelyn....she's such a chubber, I have 4 outfits in 0000 that I can hopefully return and exchange (just from Big W & Kmart) as she didnt even get a chance to wear them.

DK - Good to see you here :)

Another1 - Hope you have a good trip and let me know how it goes, we are off to Bali in september and Im so sick of everyone going do you think thats a good idea? I just say yes and also say maybe we'll give white water rafting a miss this year! GGrrrrr

AFM - We are in DP's holiday house in dunsborough, normally a 3hr trip took us 4.5 with Blair needing feeds & changes and the puppy needing toilet stops! But so good once we got here, DP's mum and sister are here so have been getting lots of help with cuddles & changes! I even got to have a proper long shower and blow dry my hair and put make up!

Hope everyone had a great sleep :)

[niks28]

Just a pic of Blair from last night :)

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/niks28/009.jpg

[Kema]

Just got back from the MCHN and Isla gained weight!! 140g in 5 days!!! :yelclap:

Anyway time for another feed....talk soon.
Kema:bee:

[bubbybean]

Hi all

me again with anther 5 mins !
congrats to all you mums on bubs weigth gains.
we are back to clinic tomorrow for the 3rd wkly weight in ... first wk home gained 400g and 2nd wk gained 300g so :fingerscrossed:. he was such a midget when born only being 6lb 12oz when the growth scan we had predicted him to be 8.5 lb!
I only had 000 clothes which he is just fitting now although they are a bit big :laughing:

anyway, congrats all and love reading this forum ... my only sanity at times!:flowerz:

[iMischa]

blair has so much hair!! wow i thought ollie had a decent ammount but hes practically a baldy compared heehee.

o0o my husband is definitely making up for not being a great deal of help while i was pregnant, he cleaned the whole house today, made us all lunch and has just been wonderful (i dont want him to go back to uniiiiiiii nooooo) here's hoping he can keep helping out more *fingers crossed* yay dk welcome! hows bubba doing?

hello everyone else *waves* hope everyone's bubby's are doing well and letting everyone get a bit more sleep. unfortunatelly i'm getting next to no sleep through the night until hubby wakes up in the morn and takes over then i get a few hours, its not ideal as ds#1 is up early and i hate sleeping while he is up...i get mummy guilt even tho dh is with him.

time for a bottle!

[The sooper nanny]

Just a quick photo of my gorgeous girl


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2116203&l=7c340dc2c4&id=743743512

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2116200&l=934faad17f&id=743743512


she slept 6 hours last night!!!:yelclap:

[Torrie77]

finally found time to come on...12.30am..lily is awake!!!
she finally arrived 7 days late on28th june 7lb 11oz...tookto bf straight away!! nurse coming tomorrow so will see weight...she lost 200g after birth.

older kids are in love with her.

very teary now but hope it will pass....Lily jade is beautiful...feel o blessed......just wish she wouldn't party 12-3am

take care

[shockinamillion]

Hi Everyone,
Sorry me post incoming!!
I am 21 today:smiliedance::smiliedance: and bubs are getting vaxxed today!

Will post later after bubs are weighed and jabbed!

[Sheer Bliss]

happybirthdayhappybirthdayShock!! Have a great day

BBL for personals!

[iMischa]

happy birthday shock (again)
Torrie, my bub has the exact same party hours..not pleasant hope your baby blues clear up soon.
shazzi, just adorable. and our bubs have the same swing and lil elephant wrap.

[Hooves]

Ok I am trying to do some personals, so I apologise for the novel, in advance.

Kema, :yelclap: for bubs weight gain, that is great news. For the fast let down, you could try feeding her while you lay on your back, or reclined in a chair. Just put her on top of your chest, so that she has to draw it up, it can slow down the let down, a bit, or at least make it manageable for her. She will learn to cope with it, once she gets a bit bigger, too.



Shazzi Gorgeous pics, awww ♥♥ and she has lots of hair too. She is doing really well, to have grown so much already.

DK Congrats again, and hope to hear how you are going soon. Hope all is well.

bubby, sorry bf, was so horrid for you. I had a friend who broke out in a hive like rash every time she fed her baby, she said her skin felt like it was on fire. Sounds like FF, is working for you guys.

another 1 Georgie is doing really well too! Fitting bub into a family routine, can be hard sometimes, hey? I just keep reminding myself babies cry. LOL Sometimes you just have to let them cry, while you sort everyone else out.

Have a lovely time catching up with your family.

Niks, Sounds like things are going well for you too. Enjoy those extra hands. I didn't even get a shower yesterday.

Awwwwwww Blair is lovely, and so much gorgeous hair too. ♥♥♥

Mischa, sounds like things are a little rough right now. :hugs: Hope you get some decent sleep soon. Hubby sounds like lots of help.


Torrie, Congrats again, for the safe arrival of your little girl. :hugs: for the tears, hope those blues go away for you soon. I have found I have been a bit teary on and off, too.

:fingerscrossed: for a good amount of weight gain.


Mischa and Torrie, I am at that same 12 -3 am party. I hope all our bubs learn what night and day is soon. Not much fun sometimes, hey?

Shock, happybirthday

Happy 21st Birthday to you !! Hip HIP HOORAY. Hope you have a great day, and get spoiled rotten.

:hugs: for those first jabs.


AFM, been a rough couple of nights for me, Hubby started work Monday, and Sunday night was horrendous. All of my boys had a turn at getting me up, in the end I ended up sleeping on the recliner, with bub and my three year old. AND sent my 5 year old to sleep with hubby.

Last night was much better, but we still had a 3 am party, from bub. LOL

At least he slept after that though.


SLeep seems to be my most important commodity at the moment, and I feel like I would almost trade anything for a few hours sleep.

[The sooper nanny]

Shock.... happybirthday for today 21 is a special day !!! I hope your bubs dont get too grumpy after their jabs...

Heres hoping all of you who are sleep deprived get a better sleep tonight.

Torrie... congrats again on Lilly I hope you feel better soon and get some sleep

Im having a lazy day at home today, had some visitors and DH has gone to uni to work today so its the first time katelyn and I are totally alone.... shes asleep!! :laughing: Im off to have a cuppa and watch some programs I missed from last night . :bee:

[shockinamillion]

What is the BEST birthday pressie a new mum can get from her bubbas?
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7.5 hours of sleep! We slept through for the very first time! Midnightish to almost 8am! I am on :cloud9:.

To add, bubs are now 3.3 (Sawyer) and 3.4 (Sery) kgs 600gs in 2 weeks. They did well with the vaxxes, She got a rather high temp and I have her some kidlet panadol and she has not had a temp since, and Sawyer threw up his entire first feed after it.

I had a GREAT birthday and am so very happy right now!!!

Shazzi, Hope you enjoyed your lazy day!

Hooves, hope you get some good sleep.

Torrie, saw a pic she is a darling.

MW, my DP is also making up for his lack of interest while i was utd. He is just AMAZING, getting up for the night feeds, giving me a break here and there, all sorts of things.

bubby bean, my bubs are still in some 0000 that are a little too big. The baby bonds suits I will need to start putting them in 000 in the next week or two though.

Kema, woohoo on the gain!!

[Kema]

Happy belated Birthday Shock!!!

What an awesome pressie from your little ones.

Just checking in to say :wave: to everyone, but its feeding time again so.....talk soon.

Kema:bee:

[Mrs Awesome]

Hi everyone :wave:

Shock - A very belated Happy Birthday! I hope you had a lovely day and yay to the best bday present ever....a good nights sleep!

Shazzi - Hope you enjoyed your first day home alone with Katelyn. Im sure you would have been fine.

Hooves - SOrry you are having a hard time getting sleep at the moment. Hopefully things settle down a bit soon for you. If not, do you have someone who can watch the kids for you for a bit so you can catch up on some sleep???

MW - Bummer that Oliver is such a party animal...especially at night!! Hope he gets his day/night sorted out soon so you can get some rest. Glad to hear your DH is helping out though.

Torrie - Sorry you are feeling teary at the moment:hugs:. Try to take some time each day to yourself...even just a few minutes with a cup of tea. Hope you are feeling better soon.

Hi to anyone else I have missed (i.e anyone who is not on this page!)

AFM - Harrison is a little gem...we are so lucky!! He pretty much just sleeps and eats and if he is awake, he is happy. :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed: this is his permanent personality!

Breastfeeding wise we are getting there and he is slowly putting on weight he is now around the 2.880gm mark (less than 3rd percentile!) I have tons of milk and a baby who really wants to suck but terrible cracked ni.pples.They are slowly getting better, just gotta wait it out. Have fixed Harry's attachment issues, so now just have to wait for them to heal.

Sleep wise I feed Harrison just before I am ready to go to bed (regardless of when he last fed, but usually 2-3hrs since) and he sleeps until about 3am then feeds again and sleeps until 8-9am. Today he slept until 9.30am. What a star!!

[pocca]

Hi Ladies,

Just a quick one from me to say Hi and thanks for all your messages etc.

Came home today with our little princess and am absolutely on :cloud9:.

DS was 2 yesturday and is being a star with his little sis.

BBL to read more and share my birth story.

:wave:

[iMischa]

welcome home poc, wonderful to hear ds is handling the big change well.

i'm tireddd....

[Sheer Bliss]

Welcome home poc! Glad your DS is doing so well, and happybirthday to him!!

Shock - WOW 7.5hrs of sleep!! that is fantastic! DD2 has gone for 6.5hrs but DS2 was feeding every 3hrs in that time :hair: Glad you had a rested day!!

buddy - have you tried lanisoh on your nipples? helps heal cracks really well! He is sleeping really well, I am so jealous!

shazz - hope you enjoyed your lazy day! I am looking fwd to Tues next week for ours! Big kids will be at daycare, and just me and babies, with DH home until 2pm to help me - I can't wait!

Hooves - what a shocker of a night!! Hope you don't get any more like that!

Hi to everyone I have missed! Has anyone heard from Susie? Hope she is enjoying her bubs and vsitors.

AFM....shocker of a few nights. Eli is all stuffed up and wants to sleep upright, and his hernia is giving him some pain. Poor boy is feeding every couple of hours as that is the only thing that will comfort him, even the dummy isn't good enough! I am exhausted and had spent the last 2 nights sleeping on the recliner, Licky that Lexi is settled and sleeping for up to 6hrs at a time. The hug-a-bub is getting a workout and Eli pretty much lives in it, but hopefully it;s just short-term until his operation.

The good news is theu both had fantstic weight gains - both gained just over 1kg in 4weeks, so about 250g average per week EACH! OMG WOW! I feel like super woman with magic booby milk! Eli is 3.8kg and Lexi 3.6kg - and corrected age is 3weeks today!! (8weeks real age). The older kids are still testing us....DH is putting htem to bed early tonight as they really need it! Hope you all have a great weekend.

[Frocky]

CM - Susie is fine, just not finding it as easy to get online these days for obvious reasons!

[Sheer Bliss]

Thanks frock - have been meaning to txt her to catch up for a coffee, buit haven't had much time myself to get out and about!! Glad she is OK.

[The sooper nanny]

hey girls....

just got back from a trip down to mum and dads, katelyn was as good as gold, but im really tired now. Its so nice to sit in front the heater and not have to do anything.

shock, well done on the sleeping... katelyn has done 6 hours at the most, and shes only 5 weeks this week so Im pretty stocked!! hope u had a great bday what did u get for presents??

Buddy- harry is doing so well. how are your nipples feeling now?

Pocca- congrats on your little girl!! How was KEMH? good experience? Hope your ds had a great bday, thats nice that they are so close with their bdays....

CM- sounds like your munchkins have been keeping you busy... poor little man with his hernia and stuffed up nose. I hope they settle down soon. Well done on the weight gains....

AFM I had my first parents group yesterday. Was a bit of a disaster at first, I got hopelessly lost and was the last one there. Katie also had a tantrum and refused to get on the breast.... was so embarassing and shes never done it before so I didnt know what was wrong with her... I think shes been labelled the noisy baby of the group (so embarrassing!) but on a good note she settled quickly with a bottle and she now weighs 4.075 grams. Thats just under a kilo in 5 weeks. The people at parents group seemed nice and I m looking forward to next week..

[Mokka]

Hi girls,

I hope it is okay that I'm joining you in here. I've been keeping an eye on the due in June posts so I kind of feel like I know you girls but I didnt post in there.

First of all: Congratulations all of you with your beautiful boys and girls!

A little bit about myself: I'm 32 years old and live in Perth with my DP. We had our first child, a beautiful baby boy, Lucas, on the 24th of June. Lucas is a big boy, weighing 4.22 kg and 56 cm long when he was born. My birth unfortunately ended in a emergency c-section after 13 hours of labour (including 2 hours pushing) due to his head being stuck in my pelvis. However, I'm healing well and it was the best for the both of us in the end. The worst with the c-section was that my milk didnt come until day 5 and this was very frustrating as Lucas ended up being dehydrated and we had to give him formula top ups. Luckily this hasnt affected the breastfeeding and he is now a good eater and gaining weight every day.

CM - I can see that you've got a hug a bub. I've got one as well but I havent tried it yet. I bought mine on ebay and the instruction came on a VCR and not on DVD so I'm a bit unsure what position to use for a newborn. Do you carry Eli in peapod or hearh-to hearth? I've seen that moby wrap has got a position they call Hug Hold and I'm wondering if I can use this for the hug-a-bub?

Looking forward to share the next months with you and I'll try to be active in here even though it is hard to find time with a little man to take care of:)

Hope you have a nice weekend ladies!

[bubbybean]

Hi Girls,

Glad to hear you are all going OK (as sleep deprived as we are).
I am ploding through with a week on my own now. DS is quite good the last two nights going 7hrs between feeds! If only DH and I could get organised to go to bed with him to get the full 6 hrs sleep! He has been having this last feed about 5/6 in arvo before we get the chance to feed/bath myself and get to bed to use the max sleeping time!
Also, been using a dummy a little the last couple days ... anyone have any ideas/comments about when/why/how to use a dummy effectively? DS seems to snort/grizzle alot when not feeding and i have been using the dummy through the day to stretch his bottles out to say 3 hrs just so he has a decent feed and not little snacks every 2 hrs!
Also, DS now 5 wks old and liking to stay awake a bit through the day but then doesn't seem to be going to sleep on his own. will fall asleep with the bottle but then wake up as soon as you put him down!

Also, find myself getting bored already! Just not very fun cooing and entertaining bub all day. What do you guys do to amuse ourselves with something adult each day? Bub Hub is my only thing at the moment, not a long enough stretch of time through the day to do any decent cleaning (bugger!) so I don't bother trying!

Sorry for the whinge but being a first timer I have no idea and starting to realise that I can't be sitting in the chair nursing him all day just so he sleeps! things have to get down at some stage.
But yeah, DH has one day off tomorrow (even if we are going to be swamped with inlaw visitors!) will be glad to have him at home as company for myself if nothing else!.
Anyway, have a great weekend all!

[trin_007]

Just wondering if there are any new mums in Brisbane having b/f supply problems? I may have an answer - PM me for details if you are interested/desperate!!

[Sheer Bliss]

Today was a MUCH better day than yesterday! DH was up until 2am with Eli, only waking me to feed him, so that was great! I took over at 2, so he could get some sleep. But then Eli slept in the cot for an hour today (rest in the HAB) and then this arvo in his rocker. I sat him more upright in the rocker, so worried it may be silent reflux, yuk. He is in the cot now, so maybe not...will just wait and see how he goes after his operation, it might be that causing him some discomfort.

mokka - i use the heart-to-heart position, haven't fed him in it yet, as I try and feed both bubbas at the same time, and can't do it wiht one bub in a carrier. I went to their website to learn how to tie it, as i borrowed it from a friend, and had no dvd.

bubbybean - have you had your first visit with your CHN? With my first bub they set me up in a mothers group that met every week, all the babies were born close to each other, so it was a coffee morning each week for some adult contact and talk about how we were copeing. Maybe try something like Gymbaroo - I did this with DD1 & DS1 - it's from 6weeks and they both loved it. I don't have time to get bored now, lol, so no gymbaroo or mothers group for me this time. I have a play group we have been doing for a while (organised through mutual friends at different parks, or macacs if it's wet outside!) and that is my saviour....even on zero sleep, we go.

shazzi - someone has to have the noisy baby, so don't worry! It was me with DD, and another friend had a noisy DS1, and now her DS2 is here, he is soooo quiet and content! Kids always seem to know when to muck-up, even if they are perfect the rest of the time.

I had better go fold some nappies before getting some sleep in before it all starts again! I forgot how much of a rollercoaster these first few months can be.

[bubbybean]

thanks CM, was a bit of a bad day yesterday, much better today. we put DS in his own room last night and i think i slept a lot better.
CHN is going to let me know about a mothers group but our area is pretty small so they wait until a few people with similar age bubs come through then form the group. shouldn't be too much longer. looking forward to a reason for getting out and about anyway! :thumbsup:
Thanks for your advice anyway, i hope you get some good sleep soon too ... really admire you managing twins also with another two as well ! your a super mum!

[pocca]

:hugs:Hi Ladies,

This is my first proper post since bub arrived - one week ago today - feels like a lifetime ago!

So far things are going well - Taylah is very placid (touch wood!) and DS is taking it all in his stride.

Thought I would share my birth story for those interested.

Last sunday night went to bed and felt my first contraction at abour 11pm - wasnt sure if it was real so waiting for 4 or 5 more before waking DH. To my surprise they were coming 5 minutes apart and so I woke DH and rang the hospital - they said given its my second pregnancy I should probably organise someone to look after DS and then ring back in 30 minutes to give them an update.

So my sister and her DP rushed over and got to our place before midnight - thank goodness because my contractions were now 3 minutes apart so I rang the hospy to say they we were coming in. On arrival at hospy they said I was already 5cm dilated and that bub was very low and the minute my waters broke it would be a very quick birth. We were glad to hear the progress was good and went up to the delivery suite. I was managing the contractions quite well and didnt need any pain relief but was anxious about pushing bubs out! By 3am I was 8cm dilated so the midwife broke my waters hoping this would speed up the last part.

OMG once she broke my waters it was a whole different world of pain, I was crying in agony and begging for pain relief. Bub was posterior and it was not nice at all. So they gave me a shot of morphine which help calmed me but didnt do anything for the pain so I ended up with an epidural - best decision ever - although I was dissappointed because I had come so far with nothing. Anyhoo so all was going well, next thing I know the ob came in to do a check and says looks like you will have to have a C - section and I was like WHAT!!!!!!!!! where did that come from - i thought all was great???
Apparently bubs head was flexed back and she was stuck in my pelvis, she had also done her first poo in utero. I was soooo upset, I really didnt want a c section - especially with a long recovery and a 2yr old at home. The doctor was really nice and talked me through it all which made me feel better. So off to theatre we went and my beautiful baby girl was born soon after. I got the most terrible shakes for 1.5 hours after the c-section but they gave me something for it and I was moved up to the ward where DH and bub where waiting.

To my surprise recovery has so far been really good - only had to have panadol for the following two days and was up and about the next day. Hardest part is not being able to pick up DS.

Sorry about the novel - also wanted to write things down so I wouldnt forget :)

How is everyone else recovering from Caesars?

Buddy - how are those cracked nipples going?? I am in the same boat as you lots of milk, a bub who wants to suck but VERY cracked nipples - any suggestions?

CM - I think of you often - you really are a super mum with twins and two toddlers .. I dont know how you do it and find time to come in here :)

Shazzi - KEMH - was awesome as usual :) We got one of the new labour suites and I had my own room again - which was great. Had some of the same lovely mid wives look after me as last time. Was very wierd as I was still in there for DS 2nd bday - so it was like dejavu. What ward were you on?

Ok better go do some tidying make the most of missy sleeping and DS at day care today.

[branjie]

pocca thank you for sharing your birth story. I got all teary (blame it on the lack of sleep) about reading how you were told all of a sudden you needed a c section when all had seemed to be going well. If bub's head was back like that, there's no way you could have had bub normally, so it's good that your OB picked that up when he or she did. So glad to hear your recovery is going well.

charlis_mum it's great that your DH is chipping in and helping so much. I really think the two of you deserve a medal.

Sorry I haven't had a chance to read everyone else's posts. I'm so tired, I think I'm going to try and lay down for a bit while bub sleeps.

Anyone else's bub still got their day and night back to front?

Anyone tried Lily Padz breast pads? I really need some breast pads I can wear overnight without having to wear a bra. These seem ideal, but are about $45 for two.

[shockinamillion]

Hiyas,

Anyone feel like they hardly ever stop?

Pocca, good to hear you are home. Good to hear you are recovering well from the csect. I had mine almost 8 weeks ago and it it almost like I never had it, I have a few numb patches and the scar is lovely, it is not straight but not raised and bumpy anymore.

Branjie, have you looked into sleeping bras, I had 2 pairs (one has vanished) and I LOVE them. Not uncomfortable like a bra.

CM, go your DP. Mine is really helpful too!

Sorry to all I have missed.

AFM, I am taking bubs to the chiro tomorrow much to the dismay of DPs Aunt who did her very best to talk me out of it. I am hoping it helps with DPs wind issues, he is not settling, last night was probably our worst night. It wasn't dreadful, but I want to try and get it fixed sooner than later. Never know, maybe it will help their sucking and I can start BF again, that would be a dream!! Wishful thinking I guess.

Gosh I am tired.

[sahm]

:iagree: So tired!

I'm so jealous of all you mummies with babies sleeping long stretches! My DS is already over 5kg, but is still waking 3 hourly for feeds, although only on one side.

I might try encouraging him to have both sides tonight and see if it makes a difference.

Shock, I took my DS1 to a chiro when he was a baby, and found it worked wonders. We actually took him for other reasons, but it helped calm down the wind problems as well.

[shockinamillion]

Bubs woke every 2 hours the other night OMG soo tiring, last night thank goodness was every 4. I wish they would start sleeping longer.

They are almost 8 weeks, I cannot believe it, they are only 1 week and a half corrected though, so I am waiting patiently for them to start doing more.

Anyone know anything about bubs going cross-eyed a lot? My girl keeps going cross-eyed.

[bubbybean]

[quote=shockinamillion;3892681]AFM, I am taking bubs to the chiro tomorrow much to the dismay of DPs Aunt who did her very best to talk me out of it. I am hoping it helps with DPs wind issues, he is not settling, last night was probably our worst night. It wasn't dreadful, but I want to try and get it fixed sooner than later. Never know, maybe it will help their sucking and I can start BF again, that would be a dream!! Wishful thinking I guess.
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I had DS at chiro yesterday with me and they suggested an adjustment for him. seemed a lot more relaxed afterwards and I think (touch wood) he is bringing wind up a little easier. He had a favour for turning his head to one side also which is flattening his head so hopefully adjustment will help him use both sides too. I say it is worth a try! Doesn't hurt them at all.

How long does it take other bubs to have their feed? DS is wanting a feed every 3/4 hours but takes an hour to have it! actually drinks bottle quite quickly but takes time to burp wind up throughout which ends up stretching to over an hour sometimes! He will start squirming and carrying on like he doesn't want it but once / if you can get him to burp he will take more before he really doesn't want it anymore.

Shock I also hear you about not stoping ! :yelclap: to you with two .. it must be twice as hard! Was nearly ready to walk out last night to get away I was over feeding DS ... seems like I am in that damn chair 20 hrs of the day!:hair:

Sending long sleeps vibes to us all :wave:

[Mrs Awesome]

Hi ladies!

Pocca - Congrats again on the birth of your little girl, and thanks for sharing your birth story. It must have been pretty scary to hear you had to have a C/S, but at the end of the day you and DD as safe and well, and thats all that matters right??

Also, re: cracked nipples.... I had one side that was much worse than the other, so I BF on the good side each alternate feed (at that stage he was only taking one side each feed) then when he was due for the sore side I would get DH to give him EBM in a bottle while I expressed that side instead. I did this for a few days to allow the crack to heal then really worked on Harry's attachment when we started back on that side. I also applied Lanisoh every 2 hours or so and after expressing put some brest milk on the nipple and let it dry for a while before I did my bra back up. Hopefully some of these things might help....but take it easy on yorself....it bloody hurts like hell and isnt much fun!!!!! Another thing I tried was Daktarin Gel on my nipples before and after each feed in case DS had thrush as that makes it quite painful apparently also.

Bubbybean - My DS takes about 25-30mins on each breast to feed 3-4hrly as well, so can take over an hour if he takes both sides. We also find he takes the bottle so much quicker and gets windy from it. I know how you feel about being stuck in a chair feeding all day....sooooo frustrating sometimes!! I need to find things I can do with one hand. My only saving grace is my sister who had her bub 10wks before me says they get much quicker and more efficiemt as they get older...her DD can drain her in 10 mins!!!

Shock - Not sure on the cross eyed thing....could poss be a lazy eye, but bubs dont have strong muscles yet behind their eyes, so it may improve as she gets bigger. Mention it to your MCHN or paed if they see one, but I wouldnt worry about it.

Sahm - Bummer that your bub wont sleep for very long stretches. I think I jinxed myself by saying my DS slept so well, as the past 2 nights and days he has decided he will only sleep if he is being held or in bed with us......sooooo frustrating!!!

Branjie - Sorry, I havnt tried those breast pads, so cant help. I sleep in either a singlet top with a shelf bra built in and just lift it up for feeds, or I wear a crop top type maternity bra under my pj's....they are not really like normal mat bras...pretty comfy!

CM - Glad your DH is helping out .....bravo to you for looking after 2 bubs and 2 kids....dont know how you do it!

AFM - Feeling a little tired and emotional after 2 days of DS attached to me 24/7, but hopefully today is a better day! Take care ladies. xx

[DungeonKeeper]

Finally getting a chance to post properly here! Today it's been two weeks since Ozan was born but it feels like he has been here forever.

I have also been quite ill over the weekend and only just recovering. It seems to have been a bout of gastro which I normally never get so no idea where this came from and I haven't even eaten anything dodgy. Thank God mum's here to sort stuff out for me!

Mokka: Hello and welcome! I am in Perth with my first too.

CM: Sorry to hear that your little boy will need an operation. I hope things resolve quickly and he feels better soon.

Bubbybean: I am a first timer too. I have stuff like knitting to do during the day or if I can get around to it maybe play some computer games or I have books to read. Although I haven't managed any of those very well seeing as I have only just had him and spent some of that time in bed feeling sorry for myself! It depends on what your thing is. What do you normally like doing?

There was some discussion a few pages back about noise. This doesn't seem to bother him when sleeping at all. We have him in the main living area and loud TV or my mum's loud Mediterrenean voice or the loud vacuuming, nothing seems to bother him if he wants to sleep.

It also seems that if he doesn't want to sleep nothing seems to help much with making him sleep either! So he does pretty much what he wants regardless of what is going on.

Branjie: Yup. He seems to have his day and night mixed up. He was fine his first week and slept quite well, pretty much all the time but the last week has been quite mixed.

He sleeps in the afternoon and evening but seems to want to stay awake all night. I don't mind waking up every 3 hours to feed but it would be nice to be able to get some sleep
in between! He has gotten very noisy and grunts and makes all kinds of noises. I guess "luckily" he doesn't cry that often but still it has been quite hard at night.

We did go and get a bassinette to have him in the room with us but he seems to prefer to go to sleep on someone! Bah! I am not sure how to switch him to sleep at night rather than during the day but I guess there isn't much I can do at such an early age but to see it through.

Well apart from that things are going well. He is a milk junkie like me and sometimes during the day feeds every hour! The books seem to talk about 6-8 feeds or so in every 24 hours and he does more like 12-15 so I hope it's okay but apperantly one can't overfeed a breastfed baby so it must be okay. And I assume it helped with his jaundice so that's all good. He had gained 70g in one day last week between the midwife visits! I get the CHN coming around tomorrow so curious about what he weighs now. He definately feels and looks bigger than he was! The only other thing he does have are manky eyes but as long as I clean them a few times a day they are not too bad. I also squirt breastmilk into them which seems to help. I am going to ask the CHN how long this may last though.

Pocca: Great that you finally have your baby with you! And sorry to hear that it ended in a c section but glad that you and the baby are all okay and that you are recovering well. I was 5cm dilated by the time I got to the hospital
as well and managed fine for couple of hours which just my tens machine but then switched to hot shower and gas and air. They broke my waters too but as far as I can tell that didn't speed things up either but made things more uncomfortable.

It must have been the lack of fluid in there, things just felt very strange everytime I had to move. Stupidly enough from what I remember I didn't beg for pain relief but I was just begging for them to take him out!! I didn't even have
gas an air at this stage. Nothing! Stupid me! Anyway, they finally sucked him out. Phew. What a relief that was. Two hours of pushing. I don't think mine was posterier as his bum has always been sticking up but I was told he was facing the wrong way whatever that means and that's why I found it hard to push him out.

Sorry people about the novel.

[bubbybean]

Thanks guys, today has been a bit better, seems to be when you have at least one outing on the list to aim for!

Went to physio today about DS neck. she says he is fine and shouldn't get any worse. showed me some different positions to hold, lay him in to help with head shape and variations for tummy time so he might actually start to enjoy it instead of scream!

pocca - congrats to you and thanks for your advice, heres hoping your sister is right and thing quicken up ... don't mind getting up at night but after an hour I am over it. at least through the day there is some decent stuff to watch on tv while you feed! the vcr is certainly coming in handy anyway ... infomercials are horrid! at night i don't turn it on so he doesn't wake up much but it does make things more boring for mum!

DK - congrats to you and ozan too. I did used to crochet so perhaps I should start that up again .... i think i am just feeling so bad that i should be spending play time with DS when he isn't feeding or sleeping but when there isn't much time in between this I just want to get away from him for a minute and the jobs need to get done some time! also feeling very lazy on my but all day ... those kg's aren't going to move themselves!

Anyway, better go organise some healthy dinner for a change! Hope you all have lots of sleeps tonight! (fingers crossed anyway!)

[Hooves]

Hi everyone.

Sorry I haven't got time for a proper post.

I will try for a personals one tomorrow. I have a lot of reading to do.

I took the kids to visit my parents, for a few days. It was nice to get away, but so glad to be home in my own bed.

We are doing really well, Ryan had his 6 week needles today, (they do them early because of the whooping cough out break). He is having a really good sleep so far, he has been down for ages.

Does any one know any thing about small fontenelles?? Ryan has a tiny fontenelle, and I am starting to worry about it. One CHN, told me to keep an eye out for symptoms of brain compression, and the other one, told me he was fine, but to have it checked at my 6 week check, with my doctor.

We do that on Friday.

Have any of you had this with any of your other children?? OR know some one who has? What happened??



Alright I am going to go back and have a good read, so I can reply to you all. I may need a pen and pad, first.

Hope you are all ok, and getting restful sleep. Even though some of the bubs are due for a growth spurt.

[niks28]

Woah so many posts since I last looked and that was only this afternoon!

Hooves - Have been wondering where you were!

And buddy I saw your pics on fb and Harry is soooo cute!

Blair is crying so better go will catch up later xx

[Frocky]

Hi everyone, hope you and your bubs are all well :wave:

Have found a spare few mins to sneak on and see what everyone is up to and can't remember half of what I've read! Does anyone else wish we had our own forum section with various threads rather than just one thread?

Hooves - sorry, I've not heard of that one before. Hope they can explain it better to you on Friday.

DK - hope you are feeling better, the last thing I could cope with right now is gastro so god knows how you've done it!

Branjie - Liv was nocturnal for a while but has now started to kick off early in the mornings and late at night instead as we've been waking her up in the day with tickles, flannel baths etc (which don't always go down too well!)

Shock - I read somewhere it can take up to 3 months for their eyes to be properly developed in terms of muscles so try not to worry. I know that's easier said than done as both my DH and Mum had that problem so every time it happens it makes me wonder.

Bubbybean - did you go to a chiro or physio? I take Liv to the chiro as her neck is a little out of whack from being hauled out. It can't be good for them being pulled by the neck and shoulders!? Did you meet with a lot of resistance from your family?

AFM - my birth was very similar to Pocca's. 12 hours of labour at home and was only 2cm so they broke my waters and as she moved down she started to literally break my spine so I went for the epidural and after a total of 21 hours of labour and at 9cm they said she was stuck so off I went for a c-section. I made a bit of a scene as I didn't want to be cut open after all that effort (cried, shook very hard and threw up on anaesthetist!) but once she was out I didn't care.

Liv was diagnosed with double hip displaysia when she was a day old and has been in a little velcro and felt harness to make sure her hips are in the right position for them to fuse properly. We can't take it off so proper baths are out and it's hard to keep her skin from rubbing and getting sore but I'd rather do this than her have surgery when she's 2 or 3 years old.

Other than that, feeds are anywhere from 2-4 hours apart and she loves falling asleep on my chest :cloud9:. MIL has been here for the last 13 days and has driven me nuts. It's been great to have an extra pair of hands but she does NOT shut up chatting so when Liv is asleep I don't get any quiet time! She's babysitting tomorrow night so we can go to see Harry Potter at the cinema - I can't wait!! Gold Class icecream... yum.


Sorry am waffling now!! Have a great day everybody!

[The sooper nanny]

Hi all

finally got the chance to post. God Ive been busy. Its school holidays and my MIL is a teacher so weve been out and about for the last 2 days. I also took katelyn to work yesterday, was there for nearly 3 hours!! :eek: We walked there so I was pretty proud of myself. I also returned the breast pump so I dont have to go for ay more appointments there, they just stress me out too much. I have my own mini pump which is working well.

Frocky- Im so jealous of you going to harry potter... My MIL offered to babysit but Im not ready to leave katelyn yet. Im sure shed be fine but its too early for me.... Silly hey?

Hooves- Im not sure about the small fontanelles.... maybe ask your GP for a paed referal if they cant give you any answers... I have katies 6 week check tomorrow as well.

BB- glad youre going well.

DK- thats crap about the gastro. I HATE gastro, let alone with a newborn. Ive been so far lucky this season, no illnesses.:fingerscrossed: Which is very unusual for me. I think its being away from work and not doing shifts, they kill me. Sounds like Ozan is doing really well.

AFM- katelyn slept nearly 7 hours last night.... we kept waking and saying.. did you feed her? to each other. There was no EBM so I didnt think shed had a feed.... I had to get up and express otherwise I swear my chest was going to explode. I expressed nearly 200mls!! Big accomplishment for me! YAY! It was actually good coz DH fed her at 3am and I slept... bliss. Its freezing in perth, got down to 1.5 on monday night.... brrrrrrrr

[shockinamillion]

The Chiro was great!! Serylity does not need to go back for 2 months she just needed a small adjustment of her C2 vertebrae. He said it was the one that could affect her face and head movement and you know what, she is moving her head more and making more movements in her face. I am stunned.

Sawyer on the other hand, is going back tomorrow and again next week, he has 3 points that need adjusting. After the one time yesterday though he is already getting his wind up easier and not arching his back as much. He was curling towards his right side (same side he alwys had his head to, and the doctor told me I was imagining it :P) and he is already doing that less too.

I am so happy with the Chiro that I think I am going to see him as soon as the neurosurgeon that looks after my neck problem says it is ok to. In fact I think I might call him.

Has anyone been so wrapped up in babies that are forgetting to take themselves off to the doctors. I have soooo many appointments in the next week, and a house inspection on tuesday.

DK, good to hear from you.

Frocky, oh that doesn't sound fun, how long does she have to wear the brace thing for?

Bubbybean, good to hear the physio was a help. I have to prop sery up so she doesn't scream and I have to curl sawyer up so he doesn't extend.

Oh I put Sawyer to the breast yesterday and he actually sucked!!! I am going to try him again today!:thumbsup: I will give Sery a go too.

[bubbybean]

Hi All,

Frocky - the chiro is the best, my whole family visits one so no resistance, give it a go, i can recommend it. doesn't hurt a bit and the benefits can be huge. I first went to one when i was a teenager cause i used to get tingling in my fingers and itching feet when I exercised ... adjusted my neck and both probs were fixed ! It is a crazy medicine but works for us. We also went to physio but got into chiro first and by the time we got to physio the head/neck thing was almost solved anyway ... the CHN didn't recommend chiro but physio ... maybe they should suggest both or either of the two.

Mason is similar to Shocks twins ... he had C2 adjusted and immediately had better movement towards his right (was favouring his left all the time) and has less probs bringing up wind. Was worried about them touching my precious bub but you hold them against your chest and they are just adjusted from there. The pressure used was only that like when you would squeeze a tomato to see if it was ripe.

PS - trust me I'm not a chiro or own a chiro business, just had really good results from them!

Anyway, hope everyone is doing well. Mason has ditched his 7hr feed at night and gone back to 3/4 hrly overnight (doh). Growth spurt coming i think! mind you at weigh-in today he gained 630g since last week! crickey! Also staying awake to play a bit more through the day. just can't wait for him to smile at me properly! Anyone else's bub smiled at them properly yet? (as in not wind).

Anyway, off to cook some dinner now ... have a nice sleeply night everyone! (wishful thinking heah!)

[kazza76]

Hi ladies.

Wow, So many posts. I have been jumping on when I can to try and catch up. But when I start a post, Jack starts crying. he's with DP at the moment to give me a bit of a break.

It's great to hear everyone is recovering well from their birth. With mine. Well it was interesting. In short, Had the induction on Wednesday and sent to the ward. Moved into the birthing unit early Thursday morning and had my waters broken and Jack got quite stressed and heart rate droped very quickly tob below 80 then up to 170-180 so I had a scalp monitor put on. He calmed down but I only laboured for about three hours then everything stopped. Even with the full dose of drugs (synto) I just couldn't labor. So they stoped the drugs at 4pm and put me on anti biotics and said they would try again the next day. Woke up overnight to contractions, but they were like 30 mins apart. Friday they started the drip again and I was 6cm by lunch time. By 1pm I started the gas but it didn't do anything, by 2pm I BEGGED for the epi and luckly they gave it to me. By 3pm I was fully dialated and pushed Jack out at 4pm. I had a small internal tear with three stitches as his left shoulder got stuck. I lost close to a litre of blood so had to have a cathader (SP?) in for 24 hours and was going to have a D & C due to clots not moving which they manually removed (worse then the labour it's self!!)
It was pretty hard but I wouldn't change a bit.

Jack is doing really well. Was pretty slow to put on weight which they were worried about, so he is being comped with his feeds, he has about 1 bottle of formula a day and the rest is breast. Though my supply is starting to drop so I think by 12 weeks he will be on full formula. Oh well, I gave it my best shot!

Hope everyone is doing well. Was reading about the Chiro thing. Jack can get some shocking wind, does this help at all? Also he favours one side of his head and it's hard to get him to turn it. Does anyone think this will help? Anyway have rattled on enough. :hugs: to everyone and I promise to get on more often!

[sahm]

Hi ladies.

Hope everyone is doing well. Was reading about the Chiro thing. Jack can get some shocking wind, does this help at all? Also he favours one side of his head and it's hard to get him to turn it. Does anyone think this will help? Anyway have rattled on enough. :hugs: to everyone and I promise to get on more often!

I found a Chiro really helped with my DS head movement. Unfortunately it was after he ended up with a flat spot, but better late than never!

I'm so impressed by all these babies that are sleeping long stretches. They should come and chat to my DS.

I don't feel good about the process involved, but I think I'm going to try and get him into a routine, as I think he's feeding too often and it's making his wind and sleeping pattern worse. Anyone with any ideas on how to do this, it would be much appreciated!

[niks28]

Sahm - My baby doesnt sleep for long stretches either, the most I will get is 4hrs and that happens very rarely.... I just dont think she likes to sleep especially not in her bassinet!

We are off to mothers group today (maybe!) which Im nervous about as they forgot to tell me it had started so all the other mothers have already met i think already twice :(

Have a great day :)

[Lea78]

I havent had time to read all the posts, but hope everyone is doing really well.

Jessica is 3 weeks old today, and has had a viral infection (gone now), blocked nose and a blocked tear duct. Poor little girl, hasnt been much fun for us trying to work out whats bothering her.
She is feeding average at the moment 10-20 mins every 2 hours. Hopefully now that the viral infection is gone and cleared blocked nose she should start to feed a bit better.

I have been feeling really great since giving birth. I havent got out of the house alot, doctors and shopping twice so far. She still seems unsettled after we do anything to spoil her routine. Getting the house work done while she is asleep is fun. I have decided instead of trying to be superwomen I would do one task a day.

[bubbybean]

Was reading about the Chiro thing. Jack can get some shocking wind, does this help at all? Also he favours one side of his head and it's hard to get him to turn it. Does anyone think this will help?

Hi Kaz - it certainly won't hurt. Mason had the same thing but we didn't do anything until his head was already misshaped. If you wanted to try before the chiro just takin notice of what side his head is on and move it for him if on the wrong side or feeding alternate sides etc... otherwise physio told me you can gently push against their chin to turn it the un-favoured way while playing with toy etc... to turn his attenion/head to that side. The muscles that side may just be a little less stronger then the other side and this will just gently stretch them out a bit.

lea - wouldn't it be nice if we could program our bubs into a routine! I think I have given up stressing about it and accept the fact that there is nothing I can do to change it - just work with it! hope a rountin eventuates soon but! I really would like to be a superwoman!

[Hooves]

Oooo more posts, to catch up on, I still haven't finished reading all that I have missed.

But I just had to run in here, and say.

:smiliedance: My baby had the hugest of smiles today, and he even had a little chuckle. :smiliedance:

Sorry that is a huge thing for me, he has been a pretty serious and quiet little fella, so far. I love that he is just starting to interact with us.

Although sometimes I feel like there is a presence around him, cause he is often looking off over my shoulder, or into thin air and grinning like a monkey. :confused:

[shockinamillion]

Wow hooves. Mine smile a little but only sawyer has made little baby talk noises once. I can't wait for them to catch up.

Mum is here today and has folded clothes done dishes and is just looking after things, gosh I am tired!

[shockinamillion]

Wow hooves. Mine smile a little but only sawyer has made little baby talk noises once. I can't wait for them to catch up.

Mum is here today and has folded clothes done dishes and is just looking after things, gosh I am tired!

[branjie]

Sorry I didn't have time to get up to date, just wanted to post a couple of things.

Shock what is a sleeping bra and where can I get one? I'd love to know. Last night I leaked everywhere, I've come to realise I just have to bite the bullet and wear a bra from now on. I hope the chiro helps your little one. My first two babies were colicy. The only thing that helped was something from the chemist called Infant's Friend. I had tried Gripe water and Infacol Wind drops, but they didn't help.

DK I have started putting my bub to sleep in the bassinette in the family room where all the light and noise is during the day. It may be a coincidence, but the last two nights have been a lot better.

Got to to run :hugs: to everyone.

[branjie]

OMG just lost my post!

Shock, please tell me about these sleeping bras. I'd love to know. I'm definitely going to have to wear a bra to bed from now on. I practically flooded the bed last night! I hope the chiro helps. My first two were colicy babies. The only thing that helped was a liquid from the chemist called Infant's Friend. May be worth trying with your bub.

DK I have done a couple of things to help my bub know day from night. I have put the basinette in the family room where all the light and noise is during the day. I don't let her sleep more than two hours in the day. I also make sure she's up from 5:30 in the evening, bath at about 6:30, then a feed and bed. The last two nights have been a lot better. Probably jinxed myself now!

[sahm]

niks28 - good luck with your mothers group. I had a fantastic one with my first DS and although we don't meet as a group anymore, there are still quite a few of them I catch with regularly and DS1 loves his little mates!


I resorted to a dummy last night! I never used one with DS1 but it just seems that DS2 is taking so long to settle to sleep, especially during the day, and I still have so much to do with DS1. I know it'll bite me in the end when he gets attached to it an I have to wean him off it, but I'm not sure what else to do.

Has anyone else with new bubs and older siblings found that you have to leave the new bub to cry much more than you ever would have with your first? I tried to never leave DS1 to cry more than two or three minutes, even when teaching him to self-settle, but now I find, I can't always get to DS2 in that time span. It makes me feel so guilty. :no:

I don't know how you mums with twins do it - You're superwomen!

[sahm]

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[bubbybean]

:yelclap:hooves on your smile ! I am jealous, haven't got a smile yet. almost 6 wks so hopefully not far off. I spend plenty of time being a clown in front of DS trying to get it out of him!

TMI - stupid question - being a clueless first timer can anyway tell me when I should expect next AF? Almost been 6 wks and I only breastfeed for 5 days ... bleeding has stopped and discharge is now mostly clear and gone ... just not sure when to expect it so I can be prepared! were never very regular before bub so just a bit scared of being caught offguard.:confused: Also, anyone been energetic enough to DTD since bub arrived? stitches healed well but will still be a tense moment I beleive.

Anyway so for the me post again :ecomcity: DH is home for 4 days this weekend so that will be great! Hope you are all doing well too.

Have a great weekend.:wave:

[iMischa]

gripe water - omg we got some for Oliver after a 9 hour stint of inconsolable crying and what the hell its nothing like 'water' it smells of posion and tastes like it too i tried one drop and my eyes bugged out of my head and i couldnt get the taste out of my mouth for a whole day...theres NO WAY im giving that to poor ollie. cross between super strong pepperment and aniseed blergh.

[niks28]

Hooves - Woohoo on the smile! I am getting smiles too now, just reminds me how quick she is growing up!

Sahm - Mothers group was good, they mums all seemed nice and Blair behaved herself the whole time :)

Bubby - I want to know too when to expect it, not that Im missing it! Blair is BF though so hopefully not for a while....as for DTD good luck! We have and it was a lil uncomfy but all better now but I didnt have stitches.

Not much happening here, DP has my car as his is getting serviced so we are stuck at home today I really should be cleaning whilst Blair is sleeping but I cant be bothered! BH is way more exciting!

[branjie]

bubbybean The first AF is usually pretty heavy. I was a bit freaked out, worrying that it would be like that from then on, but it was only the first AF that was like that. Since then, I've read that it's normal for the first one to be heavy.

sahm I had the same problem when I had my second bub. It's really hard. I had a 2 yr age gap. This time I have a 4 and 6 year age gap, and it's a lot eaiser. There is only one of you, and you can only do your best.

[shockinamillion]

gripe water - omg we got some for Oliver after a 9 hour stint of inconsolable crying and what the hell its nothing like 'water' it smells of posion and tastes like it too i tried one drop and my eyes bugged out of my head and i couldnt get the taste out of my mouth for a whole day...theres NO WAY im giving that to poor ollie. cross between super strong pepperment and aniseed blergh.

Hehe, I would give it a go at least once, you may change your mind, especially if he is having wind problems and a sore tummy, it worked wonders for Sawyer, now we don't need to give it to him as the chiro has helped the wind issues. It does taste gross though.




Shock what is a sleeping bra and where can I get one? I'd love to know. Last night I leaked everywhere, I've come to realise I just have to bite the bullet and wear a bra from now on. I hope the chiro helps your little one. My first two babies were colicy. The only thing that helped was something from the chemist called Infant's Friend. I had tried Gripe water and Infacol Wind drops, but they didn't help.


You can get them from Target, They don't have cups, they are somewhat like a sports bra, but normal straps over the shoulders and they have the maternity clip things. Mum got mine from target and I LOVE them, I am wearing it now, I got DP to take a photo to show you but I am not game. They have elastic in the band around the bottom too.


bubbybean, I have dtd:o. The first time hurt for me more than the first time I ever did it. I made DP send WAY more time um getting me ready the next time and it was fine.
I would be interested to know about AF too, I have been spotting a bit,.

Anyone else terrified of getting utd again so soon? I am off to the gyno to see about getting a mirena.

sahm, Sawyer will fall asleep 2 ways, in my arms, or with his dummy and being left to grizzle for a couple of minutes. If it works do it.

AFM, My cat attacked Sawyer this morning for no reason whatsoever, I think I would have killed him had there not been someone here helping me clean. He scratched his little nose and made it bleed. I was RIGHT there too, I feel so bad. I think he is threatened by Sawyer as he is male as he has not once tried to do anything to Serylity-Ann. When Sawyer is awake next and not screaming for food we are going to let trouble out of his cat carrier (he is banished) and put some of Troubles treats on Sawyers hand and get him to "feed" trouble. I read that getting him to feed the cat shows the cat that Sawyer is his master and not the other way round.

We applied for a loan the other day to get a car, and the bank knocked us back because of the bubs, I am so annoyed. We need a car soooo much atm.

[iMischa]

shock - would your parents go gurentor for you guys to get the loan? it's the only way we are going to be able to upgrade our car thats fallnig apart atm unfortunately but i'm very grateful i'm able to take that route. we had no car when ds#1 was born for about the first yr...it really was horrible so i sympathise greatly especially since u's have 2 bubbys..public transport would be a nightmare with two..it already is with one

*hugs*

[The sooper nanny]

hi girls

Shock- bummer about the car loan, its just not fair is it? We had lots of troubles applying for a loan when I was pregnant, which was because adam was a student, even though I was on a decent wage..... we shopped around and had no dramas with the last company we went with, but gos it was exhausting. Must have been scary with the cat, sounds like hes very jealous. I wouldnt be leaving them together alone, Im very careful with our dog, I dont trust her even though shes been really good.

I have those sleeping bras too.. actually have it on now, bes thing EVER! so comfy

Niks yay on mothers group. Which one do u go to? I go thursday mornings as well, at swanbourne. theres heaps of people there we have 14 babies all up, 7 boys and 7 girls! Katelyn was good this week.

Mischa, might try infants friend, katelyn has been sooo windy and has been inconsolable at times, so unlike her.... but 9 hours HOLY JEESUM! thats a long time! I dont know how you do it, i cant stand the screaming, thank god for DH!

as for DTD even though I had a casesar it still hurts like hell.... I tried once but had to abandon ship. So not interested anyway. Feel like Ive got a virus, have NO energy. Even though Katies sleeping well. Lets hope its just a 24 hour thing. Have a friend coming this arvo... will be nice to talk some sensible adult talk for a change! Any one see harry potter? So want to go but have to wait...

[niks28]

Im back again! House is clean.... Blair is happy even though she wont sleep and Im hungry but we have no food :(

Shazzi - I go to the Karrinyup one, there are 9 babies at ours, was thinking of you yesterday coz I knew yours was on Thursday too and was thinking if you would be there haha! Do Innaloo have the mums & bubs sessions, you could see Harry Potter then if they did?

Shock - That sucks about the loan, we are trying to get a home loan at the moment and nobody will lend us money either as DP is self employed (but in same industry for 5yrs) but only for the last year and even though the repayments will be the same as what we pay in rent now ggrrrr! So we have to wait a year now.... Good luck finding someone that will lend you money.

DP has found a house too that he is set on buying too, think it might be because it is across the road from the TAB! Bad bad idea!

[niks28]

Ooooh shock just saw your fb update.... Woohoo on the car!

[shockinamillion]

I AM GETTING A CAR!:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:

My Stepdads workmate has said he will let us pay the car off with the Baby Bonus so woohoo!!! I was think ooh damn no car for 4 months, but he is going to get it to us after we make the first payment. I am just on :cloud9: atm. Mum has said that as a thank you to her for getting the payment thing happenning I am driving her home when she drives the car here and spending a few days up there with her so she can show the bubs off :P I cannot wait, the part I am dreading though is driving home with the bubs all by myself :eek:. She lives near Coffs Harbour.

I can't stop smiling I am sooo happy. My step-dads mate it going to get the biggest thankyou card I can find and a big hug. He is such a sweet old man.

The car is a white Toyota Camry with 10 months rego and new tyres and regularly serviced, not to mention he is having some dints and scratches repaired before he passes it on.
Ok, I will shoosh now :D

[Mrs Awesome]

Hi all.
Sorry but this is gonna be a me post!

I got an email from Harrisons Paed today to say he wants to send him for 2 more tests on his kidneys...one involves an catheter being inserted into his bladder and dye being injected followed by some xrays and the other one he has to have an IV put in and some dye into his veins followed by a 1 hour nuclear medicine scan that he has to be still for (what the?!?!). All this is because of persistant hydronephrosis from the ultrasound he had just after he was born. Also, until the problem goes away he has to be on long term antibiotics to stop and kidney infections.....I can see we are going to end up with very runny poos and thrush in his mouth and bottom....bummer!

Why cant he be in the 80% of babies that have this problem but it goes away before birth??????????????????????????????

[The sooper nanny]

Shazzi - I go to the Karrinyup one, there are 9 babies at ours, was thinking of you yesterday coz I knew yours was on Thursday too and was thinking if you would be there haha! Do Innaloo have the mums & bubs sessions, you could see Harry Potter then if they did?


ive already looked, not on in mums and bubs unfortuately..... will have to wait probably best to wait til after school holidays anyway

[Frocky]

Shock - awesome news on the car!! Brrrrruuuuuummmmm :)

Buddy - so sorry to hear about the tests you have to go to. It's never nice having to take them to these things is it? I know how you feel, Liv's got to have the brace on her hips for another 4 weeks or so (assuming it's working, we find out on Tues) and when I see/hear other mums talk about bathing their kids and see the cute outfits they put them in I get a bit cross. But got to focus on the fact that if things are picked up early, it's easier for them to be managed and if possible cured. :hugs:

DTD.. it's the last thing on my mind! We've not DTD since before New Year so the first one is probably going to be very awkward :o

I went to see Harry Potter last night with DH (MIL babysat) - it was good in the sense that all the films are good but I was a bit disappointed in some things. They left a fair bit of the book out (despite it being two and a half hours) and it's not a stand alone film with a start and ending like the others. I'd still buy the DVD and watch it again though.

Mums groups.. I'm so disappointed with mine :gloomy: The babies in it range from 4 weeks (Liv is the youngest) with the most being 8-10 weeks and the issues the mums discuss are just not relevant to me at the moment so I feel a bit like a fish out of water. They're all past the settling/sleep routines stuff that I'm preoccupied with. Everyone seems a little stand offish still too, I tried starting conversations but it was bloody hard work. Very tempted not to go back... have any of you had the same problem?

Oh dear better go, Liv is screaming and DH does not handle that well!

[Mrs Awesome]

Frocky I just realised that our bubs have the same birthday......how did I not notice that before!!

Thanks for your kind words. I can only imagine how hard it is for you having Olivia in a brace!! Ive looked after babies at work in those baces and that is difficult enough...hopefully better than having to have surgery on her hips later in life though, so stick with it.

Re: mothers group - mine doesnt start til after 8 weeks, and I cant help but feel it will probably be too late by then for me....I have issues I wanna discuss now dammit!!! Lucky for my June mummies group on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Going to see Harry Potter in gold class next wednesday. Yay!

[shockinamillion]

I haven't gone to a mums group. I am going to go to one at the local tafe once we get the car, it is just way too difficult to get there .

I soooo want to see Harry Potter, I will have to see it alone while DP stays with the bubs then he will go see it at some point.

[sahm]

Mums groups.. I'm so disappointed with mine :gloomy: The babies in it range from 4 weeks (Liv is the youngest) with the most being 8-10 weeks and the issues the mums discuss are just not relevant to me at the moment so I feel a bit like a fish out of water. They're all past the settling/sleep routines stuff that I'm preoccupied with. Everyone seems a little stand offish still too, I tried starting conversations but it was bloody hard work. Very tempted not to go back... have any of you had the same problem?


My Mum's group had the same problem - with a large age range of babies, although our first six sessions or so were moderated by the health centre so we discussed similar issues.

As far as being standoffish goes, the first few months were a bit awkward getting to know everyone (and you won't always blend well with all of them) but I've made a few great friends out of mine. Give it time, see how things develop. Hope it gets better for you, though! :)

I'm so jealous of all you girls going to the movies! I think I've seen one movie since my DS1 was born and that was over 2 years ago! Good on you, though, for getting out and having a break. Just a couple of hours can make so much difference.

Last night my DS2 slept his first four hour stretch. Might not sound like much, but it's the longest block of sleep I've had in 6 weeks and I feel like a different person today! I'm not counting on it again tonight, but it's nice to know he can do it, so maybe he's not too far away from doing it more often!

Hope you all have great weekends!

[niks28]

Sahm - Thats awesome about the 4hr sleep! Sorry to brag but I got 6hrs last night.... but I woke anyway after 3.5hr coz my body is so used it now :doh:

I was soooo tired last night and tried giving Blair a bottle of formula last night as I felt like I had no milk and she was screaming and was so funny, her face was like what is this that your trying to put in my mouth mum! :laughing: So wont be trying that again anytime soon!

I want to go shopping but I know that as soon as I leave she will want to be held or fed but I also dont want to stay at home with DP as he is hungover and driving me crazy!

Have a great weekend everyone!

[bubbybean]

Hi all,

I am so looking forward to going to my first mothers group. the CHNs organise it for a while then we run with it ourselves. haven't started as yet ... they will let me know when it starts once a decent group accumulates. I sure hope it goes well anyway and people get along ok. am in a pretty small town so hopefully i will know of some people already!

:hugs: to you guys with bubs that need tests/braces. it is so hard to see them hurting etc... and this wouldn't make it any easier. I am thinking of them all and wishing them lots of get better vibes.

Shock - congrats on the car. dont know about you but it made me feel much more confident and independant when you can actually take bubs away from home for a while... like there is actually life outside of your house with bubs!

well ... we DTD and not as scary as I had thought. was best described like shock said ... bit like the very first time! really dont see us with the time/energy to do as often as used to but.... just not high on my priority list for a while i'd say!

anyway, we are heading away overnight tomorrow so that should be interesting.... a 3 hr car trip so hopefully bub will sleep the whole way! :fingerscrossed:

better go know but ... have a lunch outing with some family so need to start getting ready hours before hand!

have a nice week all.

[Mrs Awesome]

Just wanted to brag a bit......Harry slept from 11.30-7.30am, with no feeds in the middle!! Yay!! And sorry to those who are still not getting much sleep! Im sure it was a one off, cos he normally wakes in the middle for a feed (did a dream feed to try an fill him up) Happy, happy, happy!!!

[shockinamillion]

I was soooo tired last night and tried giving Blair a bottle of formula last night as I felt like I had no milk and she was screaming and was so funny, her face was like what is this that your trying to put in my mouth mum! :laughing: So wont be trying that again anytime soon!

That is what my boy does when I try and give him boob. Actually so does Sery. I think I was stuffed from the start with that. They got so used getting full tummies with NO effort whatsoever.

Just wanted to brag a bit......Harry slept from 11.30-7.30am, with no feeds in the middle!! Yay!! And sorry to those who are still not getting much sleep! Im sure it was a one off, cos he normally wakes in the middle for a feed (did a dream feed to try an fill him up) Happy, happy, happy!!!
:smiliedance::smiliedance:

AFM, my alcoholic dad is FINALLY dragging himself away from the pub today to come see the bubs and me for my 21st (yes, almost 2 weeks late!). Not in a good mood today as he does not take me seriously and does not listen to me. If he starts I will probably end up havving my say with him, it has been brewing for years and years and years. Geez I hope he doesn't start. My mum is here but is leaving before he will get here, and DP is off to work before he gets here too. :gloomy:. Sorry for the downer post.

[The sooper nanny]

morning all.... what a shocking night. Im up now and DH and katleyn are asleep. Something really wrong with that. Katelyn was good but the dog was up and down and katelyn projectile vomitted at 5am.... went EVERYWHERE! Still recovering from that clean up.... to top it off think I have a throat infection.... thank god i can stay in my pjs all day.

Shock- good luck with your dad, hope it goes well for you. Dont put up with any nonsense!! When do u pick up your car? Have you got capsules for it yet? very exciting for you .

Ok buddy what drugs did you give harry last night? I cant complain... katelyn is a very good sleeper and we are very lucky. Im glad you feel rested. Katelyn had the best day shes had in ages yesterday, no crying and slept like a dream. We went shopping but I just couldnt be bothered buying anything, jeez I must be sick!

Buddybean- i havent had the guts to go back to DTD yet... Im just too tired, feel very un attractive. I have to get back on the horse (excuse the pun) sooner of later.

Niks- its funny when that bottle goes in their mouth. Katelyns eyebrows go up everytime she sucks... like 'woah this is some fastflowing milk' she takes a bottle easily, we introduced them very early due to her having low sugars from my diabetes. Having said that, i think thats what caused the vomitt this morning. shes a piggy! :baby:

I popped some photos on the june photos thread in this section. Theres some cutie babies on this forum..... :goodvibes:

[niks28]

Shazzi - I wanted to go shopping yesterday and Karrinyup was flooded.... I was not happy, I really really need new clothes! I went to park at the woolworths entrance under cover and it was empty, I was thinking something's not right if I can get a spot undercover when its raining haha! Blair & DP are also in bed sleeping and Im up cleaning & tidying.... Its not fair is it!

Buddy - You lucky thing getting that much sleep, it took me an hour to settle Blair last night then she would wake up after an hour... So I gave up and put her into bed with us and then she slept for 3 hours :doh:

Bubby - Good luck with the car trip, we had a 3hr car trip the other week but it took us 4.5hrs!

Going to my parents house for lunch today as they are off to Bali the lucky things, wish I was going somewhere warm! Better start getting ready. have a great day everyone.

[Sheer Bliss]

:wave: :hugs: to all!!

I have tried to postin here about 10 times and it never happens! Eli is stull feeding frequently and in pain, I really hope its the hernia, as the surgeon is back on tuesday, so hopefully he'll operate next week and all will be good!! Much better today after chiro on fri - we all got a bit more sleep on fri/sat night - thank goodness.

Will try & bbl without a baby in my arms/on the boob.

[shockinamillion]

Shazzi- :hugs:. The projectiles are SO much fun aren't they. If I don't burp mine 3 or 4 times a feed they projectile everywhere. Sawyer got all 4 of us the other day, the cat is the only one that he missed. Hope you feel better soon, go get some sleep!

CM- hope you get that hernia fixed ASAP. Poor little cherub.

niks- enjoy lunch.

Well he showed up :eek:. He stank like cigarettes and had been to the pub already this morning :banghead:. He wasn't drunk, but I could tell. He was nicer today though and not so smart-ar$ey.

Shazzi, we get the car in about 2 weeks, I have 2 Safe and Sound Compaq Deluxe reversible carseats for the new car. The car has two anchors already fitted so all I need to do it put the seats in. I am becoming a pro at getting them in and out of cars because I have had to put them in and out of the helpers cars and mums car.

[pocca]

Hi Ladies,

I have been reading in here most days but dont seem to find the time to reply - two kids take up lots of time LOL

Getting jealous hearing about all the long sleepers - but DD is only two weeks old so I should give her a bit more time hehe.

The old cracked nipples are clearning up but now bub has thrush in her mouth and bub and has given it to me - ahh always something isnt there. But on the upside she does seem to be feeding pretty well - but does have a tendancy to pull off all the time.

To those of you heading to your first mothers group - give it some time and everyone will come out of there shell - I still see my mothers group from when DS was born and they are some of my best friends today!

Whats with the husbands sleeping in and being hungover - definately no fair - us women get the raw end of the deal that is for sure.

Off to my parents for dinner - am feeling a bit house bound today - even though we get out most days its hard not being able to drive anywhere yourself - i miss my independance.

well hope everyone gets a good night sleep tonight - my little miss always decides to wake up just as I get into bed - cheeky.

[Hooves]

:wave: sorry guys still trying to catch up from page 12.

It has been so hectic here, even though I only have one at school, school holidays have kept me busy.

Ryan is doing really well, he had his needles at 6 weeks and you would never have known. He didn't get a temp or anything.

Our 6 week check went well, and the problem with his fontanelle is not serious yet, I just have to keep getting his head measured. As long as it grows, and he doesn't get an odd shape it should be fine.

Worse case he will need an op, but that is apparently rare.

Gotta go, will try for personals next time. so much to catch up with.

Hope you are all well.

[Hooves]

ok, flying through again.

Woohoo, on the car.

Sorry about Harrisons, kidney, probs. I wish he wasn't going through that.:hugs:

ok, off to see what else I missed.

Sorry girls, I wish I was keeping up better.

[Frocky]

The old cracked nipples are clearning up but now bub has thrush in her mouth and bub and has given it to me - ahh always something isnt there.

I think Liv might have thrush from the antibiotics I've been on for mastitis. Her tongue is coated with white stuff. Do I go to the doc and how do they treat it?

[Hooves]

You can talk to the health nurse about it, they will tell you what to use.

And yes you can see a doctor too. Or go and ask the pharmacy.

I usually use Daktarin oral gel, which I put on a dummy, and I treat often, like that.

You get a spoon, and you are supposed to give them so much on a spoon, but it is really thick stuff, and because someone, choked their kid on it, they tell you not to use it under 6 months now. Or it could be 12.

They also may give you, nilstat, or something. But she needs to be treated, and so will your nipples, thrush is really easily spread.

[pocca]

Frocky - I am using the daktaran cream on my nipples and on DD bum and also using Nilstrat on her mouth.

The white coating on her tongue does sound like thrush - but if you want to know for sure check with your health nurse or phamarcist - I didnt other going to doc as nurse diagnosed it for me - you also have to use the dakatarin cream or gel for two weeks even if the symtoms clear sooner!

hope it helps.

[Mrs Awesome]

I agree with the others, it most probably is thrush esp because you are on antis. Use Daktarin gel on your nipples before and after each feed to dose bubs and to dose your nipples. It can be really painful to BF if you get thrush too. If bubs has spots on her bottom, use nystatin cream for that.

The pharmacist will probably ask what the Daktarin is for and just tell them it is for on your nipples, as the are wary about selling it for bubs mouth due to the overdosing issue that Hooves was talking about.

Cheers! xx

[The sooper nanny]

Is it just me or does anyone else get annoyed with pharmacists asking what everything is for? I know they have a right as they are issuing it but what about confidentiality? I was on asprin during pregnancy and went to get some when I was very pregnant, the pharmacist asked what it was for and why I was taking it, so had to go through the whole story in front of a whole queue of people.... i dont know, I just think its annoying.... So yeah, dont tell them what its for, just say its for your nipples or you'll get the tell me your life story treatment from the pharmacist.


Hooves -glad the fontanelles arent too much of a problem.... :thumbsup:

AFM- we have had the WILDEST weather in perth.. our house looked like a snow storm had hit it as we had sooo much hail, was actually quite cool! We also saw a 5 car prang just up the road with cops, tv camera crew, ambos and firies.... I felt bad when I saw all the emergency services on the way home as the accident had obviously happened only seconds before we saw it the first time, I still feel obliged as a nurse to help but now Ive got a baby, not practical, even though DH was in the car. Probably couldnt have done anything anyway, Ive stopped at some awful prangs, so I guess Ive done my bit.... katelyn sleeping well but is having alot of problems with wind. She farts heaps but hasnt pooed for 3 days (sorry TMI) seems to be causing her some grief.... Hope all are well...... shaz :p

[Sheer Bliss]

I feel so bad not posting in here often, and then being slack with the personals...sorry. Hopefully Everything will settle down here soon.

I made Eli's appt with the surgeon today, tomorrow at 11am, then they have booked him into surgey at 8am friday morning unless anything changes after the appt. He has to fast from 2am - OMFG how do you tell a 2month old baby they can't eat again until after i have handed him over to someone to cut him open! Geez!

shazzi - that sux wth the pharmacist....when i filled my zofran script (10 tablets at a time) kept telling me I could get it cheaper if i got a script for 4 tablets at a time....at that stage i was taking 3 per day and STILLpuking and feeling like cr@p - why would i want to go to the chemist every bloody day!!! Every 2-3days was enough!

Frock - ouch on the thrush! Hope you get it sorted. Hope all is going well today!!!!

hooves - good that the fontanelle isn't an issue!

shock - excellent on the new car!! You won't know what to do with yourself...so many outings to show it off.

I had better get back to it....Charli and Nick are in daycare today so getting some cleaning done. Eli has been in the HAB since about 10am, so at least he is having a decent sleep. Princess Lexi (she is such a settled baby) is fast asleep in the cot and i have managed to get the floor mopped, lounge tidyed, dishes done, and floor mopped (again - it was filthy!!) Plus 2 loads of washing on - being naughty and usng the dryer though - it's faster.

HERE (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/charlis_mum/LexiEli.jpg) is a pic of what a bad day yesty was....I couldn't put eithre bub down! Thankfully a friend came and rescued me at midday as i had the older 2 here too, and I couldn't do much with them!

[The sooper nanny]

I ve had a really teary day today, god knows why, think Im feeling a little cooped up at home with all this bad weather and Katelyn has been fighting her sleep... but CM after seeing your photo with the 2 slings, things dont seem so bad after all.... my god how do you do it with 2?? Hats off to you... having a friend come over this arvo so hopefully will have a natter and feel better.... hope everyones going well.....

[susieq1969]

Hello All

I am so sorry that I haven't been on here sooner, I just haven't had the time!!

This on demand feeding can be a bit of a pain especially when you start something and you just can't finish it, including this post!

Hope you are all well. It's taken me ages to play catch up on here!

Frocky - Bummer on Liv having thrush, but the girls on here have all helped! :)

Shock - That's a bummer about your Dad :hugs:

Shaz - DP went out and got my nipple cream :laughing:

Yay on everyone else who's bubs are sleeping thru and feeding ok!

AFM - Well, my labour was 10 hours. Not bad for a first timer :)

Contractions started at 5 mins apart at 2.30am on June 18. My body had no time to adjust, just straight full on labour!!

Rang midwife, and yes, you guessed it, it was Daniel!! So a boy midwife it was then :)

Got to hospital at 5am telling DP to drive thru all the red lights.........he he

Had a natural labour, no drugs, not even gas! I have no idea how I managed it. Started off standing, then got in the bath. They had to get me out of the bath as baby wasn't coming down. Turns out I needed the loo!! So in went the catheter, NOT a pleasant experience, and yep, Daniel had the pleasure of that!! So, the lip that was there disappeared once he got all that out, then it was pushing time!! I alternated between standing, kneeling and leaning against the bed and the birth stool. Did NOT want to get back into the bath!! So, after 1.5 hours of pushing, Sam James was born at 12.52pm on the 18th. My cousins birthday!!

DP spent most of the time texting my mum and BF up until the pushing bit, then I had his full attention. I did not swear at him once tho!!

My other BF was coming up from Sydney, she made it there 7 mins before I had him. I reckon it was my subconcious waiting for her to arrive!!

Apparently DP's face was a picture when she arrived. He had been waiting for her to show up he thought he'd at least have another female there!! Altho by that time Daniel had left to be replaced by Kate who was lovely but a bully!! LOL

At one point I remember asking for a C-section cus I just wanted him out. It all got to much. Then Kate started talking about assistance as in forceps, so that made my mind up, this baby was coming out!!

So sitting on the birthing stool of all places, he crowned - Oh yes, who was it that said Ring of Fire!! YOUCH!!!! :eek:

And Kate says pant, so I'm panting, but nope, he had other idea's. He FLEW out!! Kate had to catch him!! BF cut the cord as DP couldn't reach. He was born pink but floppy so they whisked him to the warmer and had to make him breath, but then there was this cry!! And that cry last for 1.5 hours!! LOL

He was fine, Apgar was 9. And they put him in my arms, my little man.............

I have so many feelings of overwhelming love all the time, all you mum's know what I mean. I can't put it into words!!

He's now just turned a month old already! And is the light of my life

Sorry for the me post!

Hope to catch up with you all soon!

[bubbybean]

Ohhh ... that is a lovely story Susieq. Great it went so well. Me being first time mum also but my labour was only 3-5 hrs! Body did go into straight off the line full on labour like you but! Contractions starting at 3-5 mins! My only regret but that I don't really remember any details of it at all! Way tooo fast and the gas was too good!

AFM - well trip away was eventfull. Don't want to leave home again for a long drive until he is at school! 2.5 hr trip took 4 and I had to sit in back the whole way. Otherwise not too bad ... didn't scream while we were out ... just at the motel! Very unsettled then when we got home too so a dose of panadol helped to settle him last night and slept for not quite 5 hrs!.

OB was happy with my check up anyway and put me on Yasmin OCP. Anyway used this before? I got skin tags from my last pill Trifeme and he says that this shouldn't happen with this one. Hopefully!

Anyway, off for another feed!

[Hooves]

o ok, i am giving up. I have been reading and re reading, from page 12 to try for some personals, but I can't remember what I have read.:no:



So I will start again from here, so sorry, I will try harder.


Susie, your birth story sounds like everything went really well. :hugs: Good for you, and WELCOME again to Sam.


CM, :hugs: Hopefully these bad days, or should I say harder then normal days, are only few and far between.

Good luck with Eli's surgery, and many many HUGS to you all. Hope he is feeling much more comfortable soon. ♥♥♥♥


Ryan has been difficult at night lately. A lot refluxy, and collicky (is that a word?) He screams so much, and sucks in so much air, then we seem to have wind issues. Such a vicious cycle.

My doctor and midwife are not too worried about it though. I am sure they would be if they were dealing with it.

Ryan has been a little piggy, lately, so that is why, I think the wind and reflux are being so bad. He put on 700 grams this week. But that is with one bare weight, last week and a dressed this week. SO I am thinking he has done, about 400. He was only wearing a thin jumpsuit, singlet and clean nappy.

He is definately growing, though, I have just started putting him in some 000's




bubby, your trip sounds like it was eventful, to say the least. Hopefully, it will not always be like that, and I am sure you will be able to go away before he is at school. LOL


Shazzi, :hugs: Hope you got a good chat with your friend, and feel a bit better, now.

It is not easy being home all the time. Especially if you are used to coming and going as you please.


I know I have been feeling house bound, but only because I choose to stay home, because it is freezing. I think winter is a hard time to have bubs.



I hope everyone else is well.


Sorry this post is so long once again, and lacks personals.


I will do better, I promise.

By the way it is so long, cause I finally got a full five minutes, to myself, and can actually type with both hands too. This one handed typing is soooooooo hard.

Stay well, and happy days to you all.:flowerz:

[Mumofcoops]

I am soooo sorry i haven't been on here since bubs. I have been reading but feel bad for not remembering everything i've read and then not posting LOL

Great to see everyone in here, some with good sleeping babies and unfortunately some with not so good sleeping buabies hehe. Mine is inbetween. He is normally good till about 2am and then feeds 2hrly after that. My DS was doing 6.5hrs at this age, i know i shoiuldn't compare but i can't help it LOL

Unfortunately DS has also made things harder by starting to wake early in the morning or be up through the night for 2 hours GGRRRR a few times. It's so much harder when you can't catch up on lost sleep the next day!

How are those of you who have had your second going wit h#1? DS is ok at times but then there are times where he gets frustrated and hits/throws/kicks/pokes etc. I am trying to include him as much as i can and trying to not spend too much time with bubs (which i then feel bad to bubs for!!!). I haven't seemed to really connect to DS2 yet :( which i put down to trying not to put DS1 out too much. I don't know what to do, it feels horrible to love this baby but not feel that strong bond/connection to him. To make it worse my hubby also takes time to bond (didn't bond with DS1 till his personality started to come out) so i feel terrible that poor DS2 has no real bond with anyone :( :(

Sorry to bring things down but i really needed to get that out and see if anyone has any suggestions/advice or feels the same way.

Sending long sleep vibes out to all these beautiful bubbas....including mine HEHE

[shockinamillion]

Susie, Wow, sounds like bub wanted to meet you guys RIGHT away.

CM, wow you had a busy time. I want a wrap like that, I love my slings but would LOVE a wrap. Hope everything with the surgeon goes well. Serylity-Ann's thing on her tummy isn't a hernia BUT I was told yesterday she had a slight umbilical hernia, the CHN said it would go away on its own.

Shazzi, hope your day improved.

Bean, you must be happy to be home.

Hooves, Woot on the weight gain, but no good about the colic.

MoC, :hugs:, I am still bonding with Serylity-Ann. I had an almost instant bond with Sawyer but am not so close with her. I am just hoping it comes soon. DP seems to have bonded with them as soon as they came home.

Well, AF is back. I have not had a post natal check, the doctors at liverpool never mentined it and I found out about it from my doc. I was meant to see the OB today for a pap smear and to talk about the mirena, but I won't be having a smear atm and I have kind of thought about the mirina and am not liking the idea of having something put inside me. I don't like the pill, but it took 2 years to get pregnant with no protection whatsoever before as DP has a very low count. So with some protection now it should not happen at all.

Anyway, Squee from the due in june thread is coming to visit me with little Atticus tomorrow and I am ready for bed. We will feed bubsies now and we are all off to bed. DPs little brother is spending a couple of nights here, so we have an extra pair of hands.

[Nixie31]

Hello There,
I am new to all this and am hoping I can join your thread. I have a 2 year old boy and a nearly 4week old girl. Born 26.06.09 Would love to share stoires, get advice etc etc
Especially on the sleeping through my son took forever and now I'm not sure if my new Lo will sleep through at all!? Hi to all!

[sahm]

Hooves - I hear you on the colic! DS2 was never very windy until the past week, he's become very difficult to settle. Massive hysterical crying fits (which always coincide with trying to get him to have his late afternoon sleep. Maybe I'm just a sucker at not recognising a baby who's trying to get out of sleep.) We're off the chiro as soon as I can get an appointment, hopefully it will help.

He's self-settling well for one sleep a day, usually around lunchtime, but any sleep I try to get out of him after that is a disaster. He's usually awake for about 5 hours, with one 20 minute nap into the evening. Very hard, especially when dealing with a fractious toddler at the same time.

Mumofcoops- Welcome to the guilt cycle of the second child! Forget the crying and sleepless nights, I think the hardest bit is feeling like one child is always being ripped off. I'm told it gets better, so I'll keep hanging on to that.

Nixie31 - Welcome and congratulations on your new bub! I have a two year old and a six week old. I have the opposite problem, my DS1 slept well from about six weeks, and DS2 is definitely not going to! We can share the pain!

Hope everyone who has bubs with health problems is on the improve. It must make life so much harder, my heart goes out to you.

[The sooper nanny]

Hi

Just a quick post... I just wanted to let you all know that Amy(Buddy 2008) is in the hospital with little Harry. Hes got some kind of infection and they think its meningitis or a UTI... poor Amy is exhausted and I just wanted to let you all know so we can keep her in our thoughts and wish Harry a speedy recovery.....

[Hooves]

OMG Poor AMY, and Harry. :hugs::hugs: I will keep them in my thoughts. Praying for a speedy recovery, and that it is not menningitis.


MoC, the guilt does get easier, because you start to let it go, a bit. BUT it will be in the back of your mind for a long time. Now that I have 4 children, I have lots of guilt about not spending time with each of them on their own. Unfortunately for us it is group stuff, or nothing lately.

As for the bonding, I have taken a long time to let myself bond with Ryan. I have been a bit like a robot, with him. I take care of him, and then he is put to bed, or has a cuddle with the others. It is only now, I have really started to enjoy our cuddles, and interaction. He is starting to smile at me, and coo.

I wish I could have bonded sooner, but sometimes these things take time.

:hugs::hugs: These feelings will pass.


Shock, your AF, has come back a bit earlier then you would have liked. I hope mine doesn't. As for the Mirena thing, the idea of it, is not nice, but the practicality of it, is excellent.

I absolutely loved having my IUD when I had one. Never had to remember my pill, so no accidents. And falling pregnant after having it was too easy.

Just remember you (according to some ) are supposedly more fertile after having a baby, so take some precautions.

Enjoy those extra hands while you have them, too. Hope you all got a good sleep.


Nixie Welcome. :wave:

Sahm, Hope the collic settles for you soon too. It is so not fun having a screaming bub. Mine sleeps well of a day though, just up half the night. I wish I had some advice to help with the settling through the day, so you get some break.

SO are you using infacol, or anything? I have been using infacol, and it helps sometimes. Let me know how the chiro goes?


Not much happening with us. Off to tackle some shopping today. Been so cold here. And then off to Dubbo tomorrow, to have my 3 year olds leg looked at again. :fingerscrossed: the cast can come off, and we are all back to normal. I can not wait to give him a proper bath. He hates the sponge baths.

[sahm]

Hooves - I've been using Brauers Colic Relief and I think it's been helping a bit.

I also think he's quite a strong willed baby and just doesn't want to be alone in bed. Although I'm happy to do the sling thing for a day sleep when he's unsettled and I'm sure it's wind, I won't wear him 24/7, I just don't find it practical. So I'm going to need to find another solution to this problem soon, as he cries to hysterics within minutes of being put down, it's a bit much for us all to take.

[bubbybean]

MofC - :hugs:i am sorry you experienced mums feel like you are neglecting your others kids, that would be very hard! at the moment for me but I feel like i never want anymore anyway cause it is all just a bit too hard sometimes so at least I won't have this drama!

Shock - bugger about the AF. Ob told me on Monday that mine would be very close but still waiting ... not looking forward to it anyway. Is it heavier and more painful then usual? Have heard it is and not looking forward to for this reason!

He has given me Yasmin to try but I was previously on Trifeme so not sure? Anyway else have any advice / experience with these pills? Yasmin is very $$ but the Trifeme gave me bad skin tags on my face so want to avoid them!

Nixie - Hi and welcome ... this is a great way to get advice from others! welcome and hope we can help, even though I am an inexperienced first timer!

sahm - :thumbsup: with the colic ... DS has just started the same thing ... had wind but didn't stop him sleeping ... now it is worse and he won't settle night or day! found that he will on his tummy but! have been putting him on it for day sleeps but too scared to do at night yet! CHN's would scold me if I done at night! Does anyone else sleep them on tum at night? My mum did with me and Im ok for it but scared to do at night now. Think I have created a terror but now as he knows its comfy in the day and is going to refuse anything else at night now i think! :confused: i have used infants friend a few times but not sure if it does anything at all! have you tried sleeping on tum?

buddy - :hugs: to you and bub ... hope he gets well soon!

anyway will stop :ecomcity: now ... better get things organised before bub wakes. good luck to us all for long and peaceful sleep tonight ...

[iMischa]

poor little harry, *fingers crossed for a speedy recovery and that its nothing really bad*

hello everyone, havent posted much, dont really want to bring the thread down especially for the new mums who are on a high from their bundles.

i'm feeling the exact way moc and hooves are feeling ; i have horrible guilt, and am too a bit of a robot with Oliver because of the guilt. its not easy thats for sure...i can handle everything a newborn can throw at me as far as crying/lack of sleep etc but this is a tough one.

my Ds#1 is quite sick atm, ear and chest infection, red raw throat and is behaving like a newborn himself, i cant say anything to him without him taking it the wrong way and crying non stop.. so atm theres always one (or both) crying, and if they aren't.. i am!

[Hooves]

Sahm, I hope you find something that works soon. There is nothing more heartbreaking to a mothers ears then her screaming child. I hate, it.

Mischa, hang in there hun, I promise you it will get easier. The trauma of your birth has a lot to do with how you are feeling. Please if you continue to feel this way, go and speak to someone about it.

I hope your DS is feeling better soon too. It is a miserable cold and flu season this year.


To all the other mums, If you are feeling down, (and most of us will at some stage) it is ok. Try not to beat yourself up about it. It is particularly more common in mums with their 2nd child.

Mother guilt, is awful. And so is PND. Which can happen a long time after bubs birth even. SO please talk to someone if you need to, ok.:hugs:


bubby, as for the tummy sleeping thing, all of mine prefer to sleep on their tummy. But I usually keep them on their back, until they roll over themselves.

I do know of some midwives and doctors who will help you with tummy sleeping though. Some babies are better off on their tummy. There is a way to do it relatively safely. Maybe ask next time you see the health nurse.

I am sleeping my bub up at an angle, it is helping him.

[sahm]

Bubbybean/ Hooves - Yep, he seems to settle better on his tummy! Not perfect, but better.

I talked to my GP and he advised to remember that they are recommendations. As long as you meet all the recommendations, not adhering to one isn't bad. He reminded me that lots of parents co-sleep against recommendations and plenty smoke as well.

In the meantime, we've visited the chiro and got a special colic preparation from the chemist so fingers crossed for some relief soon!

That said, he's just woken up after only 20 mins. Aaaahhhhh!

[another1]

Hi All,

Sorry I've tried reading all the posts but now I've lost track again.

Well we're back from our holiday to Antarctica (Tasmania) oh was it cold and Georgie didn't like it...she wouldn't sleep without being totally rugged up and when I took the blankets off to feed her she wasn't happy.

But we are back now and for the first time I'm actually being to enjoy having her without having to rush around and organise too many things.

We got our new car... much easier to have sliding doors with all the kids.

Georgie is sleeping really well and settled most of the time, she has nappy rash at the moment which I'm struggling to get rid of, Bepantham always worked with my boys but doesn't seem to be doing much with her....will have to try something else I think.

We all got colds in Tasmania so we are trying to get rid of them...anyone volunteering to have them?

Better go to bed :wave:

[iMischa]

another1 - try paw paw ointment for bubbas nappy rash, i got the ok from the CHN and it cleared up after 1.5 days *thumbs up*

[Sheer Bliss]

Hi! We are back home now from an overnight stay after Eli's hernia operation. The op itself went well, but he wasn't too good with the anesthetic....stopped breathing a few times when they were waking him up. HE just gad to be nudged to remind him to breathe, but still scary. Then he stopped a few times overnight too...he would start back up himself, so that part is good....but the way he woke up crying nd then straight back to sleep was the same as he has done from birth. A bit of a scary thought that he has been all this time, stopping breathing and that cry he does is to start breathing again. The anethesist suggested getting it checked out JIC its aa type of sleep apnoea - not good! So have to call paed next week. Borrowing an angelcare moniter froma friend in the meantime, so it's time to move them into separate cots so that can work! Fingers crossed it's nothing major.

[another1]

thanks mischs i will give it a go

CM - how scary....hpoefully it doesn't continue

[iMischa]

big hugs for ELi how scary for you CM...i hope things get better really soon.

[bubbybean]

CM- thinking of you and Eli ... hope everything turn out OK. :hugs:

sahm - how is the colic going? what preparation did the chemist give you? we have tried infants friend and infacol now but no luck ... starting to wonder whether it is wind at all! has been a bit better lately anyway so hopefully he is growing out of it!

the cold weather certainly is hard with a new bub heah ... trying to keep them at a constant temp through the night anyway. will be glad for some warmer weather thats for sure! will still prob not be happy but when it is hot either! (**:ecomcity: i'm never happy!**) at least they will be a bit older by then anyway. can get to 40 here in summer!

Anyway, off to my nephew's 4th birthday this arvo so hopefully we/bub dont catch any germs from all the other kids while were there ... have managed to avoid colds/flus so far so :fingerscrossed:.

Have a good weekend all, whats left anyway!:flowerz:

[sahm]

CM - What a run you've had. I hope Eli gets better soon. It must be so difficult to handle that and another baby and two older kids! You are a superwoman!

bubbybean - I know what you mean about the cold, my DS1 just wants to go to the park but I hate taking bub out in the cold.

The colic preparation is one a local chemist makes up themself. I don't know if it was that or the chiro but it's a freaking miracle! Yesterday he had two 2.5 hour sleeps and a catnap and settled with only 5 mins of grizzling... He slept a 5.5 hour stretch during the night and settled again after 10 mins and this morning he lay awake in bed for half an hour quietly and I thought "here we go again" and he went to sleep! Since yesterday morning we have had no more than 10 mins of crying.

i don't know if the wind problem has been fixed or if he's just having a couple of good days but it's enough to make me feel human again!

I would seriously recommend chiropathy to anyone who's baby has serious colic or wind problems!

[shockinamillion]

sahm, the chiro was great for Sawyer too.

CM, how is Eli feeling today? Hope the apnea s turn out to be nothing. Both my two do the cry then back to sleep thing, makes me a little concerned.

Another1, give your colds to someone else, we don't want them :P. I have to rug my two up constantly, the average temp here atm is about 5 degrees. I keep our how up around 20 though.

AFM, we get out car next weekend WOOOHOOO!! Mum is bringing it down Saturday then we are driving back on Sunday, one of my friends who has just found out she is utd is coming for a holiday too. She is going to be a single mum and is still a bit worried, so we are bringing her along to have a break and she can talk with mum who was a single mum herself for a while. Bubs are doing well, they have started making lots of bubba talk noises. Serylity was talking to herself in the mirror of the play mat this morning. DP is really shining as a Dad, he was down there playing with us this morning. He told me they are really nice when they aren't crying for food :P.
They both gained about 450gs this fortnight. I have started putting them in some 000's :smiliedance:.
Oh and little Attticus (Squee09's boy) came to visit the other day. Gosh it was funny here are some pics.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7849989&l=33f6af61e7&id=765750245
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7849992&l=357f90f1a3&id=765750245
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7849991&l=64b019516e&id=765750245

And one of the mummies!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7849993&l=98fba421f7&id=765750245

[The sooper nanny]

Hi girls...

Sorry that youve had issues with Eli's brething Cm.. Its good that youre getting it investigated though, must be a worry for you. Glad the hernia op went well... my dads just had a hernia repair and boy is he sore... he got an infection and poor mum has had to put up with him moaning and sooking around the house. Babies bounce back so quickly.

Bubby have fun at the birthday, keep those kiddies germs away!! Im paranoid that Katies gonna catch something, but im just careful as to where I take her and I guess shes bound to get some immunity from my breast milk.

sahm- good news on the wind. i know how awful it can be when they have wind pain. Katie has her bad time aroun 9-10am which is wierd, its normally int he evening that everyone complains about 'arsenic hour'. Glad youve had some sleep

Shock- you must be so excited to get your car... great pics.

AFM went and stayed at my folks house overnight for the first time.... god how much stuff do you need to pack??? we also took the dog so was lots of stuff. Katie was really well behaved and must have enjoyed the sea air coz she slept for 8 hours last night!! WOOHOOO:yelclap:I feel like a new woman!! Katelyn is now smiling non stop almost makes me cry with happiness.

Ive heard from Amy and harry is much better, he has ecoli septicaemia but is improving with antibiotics. Scary stuff..

[niks28]

Hey everyone, how is everyone going?

We just had our 6 week check up at the CHN, all is going well and Blair was being super cute and smiling and cooing the whole time so that was good!

Shazzi - You lucky thing getting 8hrs sleep! We havent had more than 3hrs lately ggrrrr!

Shock - Love the pics on fb, sooo cute!

[Mrs Awesome]

Hi everyone.
Just a quick note to let you know we are finally home.
Very scary & stressful time thats for sure but he is ok now and we both cant wait to sleep in our own beds tonight.

It all started Tuesday when we had Harry at the hospital all day for different scans on his kidneys. he slept through all of the tests and wouldnt feed very well but I thought he was just out of sorts cos his routine was out of whack! That night he still wouldnt drink and i realised he was hot...checked and he was 39.5degrees. Gave him a bath and panadol then stayed up all night syringe feeding him tring to get fluidsinto him.

Took him to GP on wed who sent us to emergency department. We got straight in and he had lots of tests done.....Lumbar puncture, suprapubic aspirate (needle through tummy into bladder to get urine specimen), blood cultures and he had an IV inserted. They started him on antibiotics x 3 and fluids as he still wasnt drinking. Poor bub still had temps of 39.5 at this stage. Spent most of wed night in emergency as Paediatric ward had no beds. Results came back as an e-coli infection in both the urine and blood stream. Poor little boy. He was so sick he just slept through all of those horrible tests. :-(

In the early hours of wed morning we got transferred to the paeds ward (where my sister works) and started off in a 4 bed room but then got transferred to a single room (sister pulled some strings!).

Basically we have both been in hosp since wednesday and just got home today (mon arvo). I have been sleeping in a chair next to his bed. Harry didnt BF for 2 days and even though i was expressing my supply dropped right off so now he is breast feeding again he gets annoyed that there is not enough milk for him.

Turns out the kidney problems Harry has are a bit worse than we originally thought. He has reflux on both sides (grade 5 left side and grade 3 right side) which means urine goes back into his kidneys causing infections. Grade 5 is the worst kind to have so he may need to have surgery soon to fix that....we are waiting for a surgical consultation. If he keeps getting infections in his kidneys it could cause permanent damage.

Thanks to you all for your kind thoughts....keep thinking positive for us. xx

[shockinamillion]

Buddy :hugs:, hope things get sorted sooner rather than later, sending healthy vibes to Harry, give him a hug from the twins and I.

[iMischa]

buddy, your poor little harry, i'm crying right now for you both..

how scary it must be for you and dh. i'm crossing everything i have that everything that needs to be done to make him better happens as quickly as possible and that he has a speedy recovery.

*the biggest of hugs to u both*

[GoldLeader]

buddy and cm :hugs: and positive vibes to you both. Modern medicine is amazing and your boys will be sorted out before we know it. We are all thinking about you and checking constantly for updates, so make sure you post and vent whenever you need to.

My boy has mild colic (I say mild because he doesn't seem to be as bad as some others have posted) We use brauer colic relief and anti colic mem bottles for our formula top ups. he seems to burp more easily after his breast feeds compared to the top ups. we also keep him upright for 30 minutes after feeds. these all seem to be working well...no more 3 hour periods of unsettled crying in the evenings.

2 more weeks before our needles....can't wait to have them because am scared of this whooping cough outbreak.

time to go, ds unhappy with sitting here and dd wants breakfast.

[Sheer Bliss]

buddy - massive :hugs: for you guys! Glad you are home now, but I hope it all improves for you soon!

GL - I think we might be there with the colic too....ELi had one good night after his OP, but the last few days and nights have still been moreof the same....wanting to be held all the time, not sleeping well and crying out lots. Going to grab some brauers drops today I think! He is not good at burpig, and when he finally does, its a few good burps and lots from the other end too, and then he sorta flakes and has a decent sleep (sometimes). I've got a swing he;ll sleep in sometimes as that keeps him a bit upright, but he'll only last half an hour there - poor boy. Hope your bub gets it sorted soon too!

shazzi - lol at your amazement in what you have to pack! It's amazing when you have that first trip away. We are yet to have an overnight trip with the 4kids, but I am dreading it! It will be next week when DH is on afternoon shift, we will spend 2 nights at mums (i am just not handling 4 kids for 5 nights straight at dinner/bath/bed time!)

shock - woo hoo, not long until you get the car now! How cute that the bubbas are talking!

[Hooves]

So glad you are home Buddy, hope that little Harry can have all these issues fixed as soon as possible, and that he stays well in the mean time.:hugs::hugs:

CM, glad to hear the hernia op went well. Scary to hear that little Eli, stops breathing. I hope the angel care monitor gives you peace of mind, and that he grows out of this soon. :fingerscrossed:


My seems some of us are having some really scary times with our bubs.


To everyone else I hope you are all well.

Are any of the bubs showing signs of teething??

I only ask because I am either going completely nuts, or my bub had some issue with that last night.

I thought he was just a bit windy, again, it seems to travel in 4 day cycles for us, but last night, after burping and farting a lot, he still wouldn't settle.

I got a bit over it by 4am this morning. I shoved my finger in his mouth, (he seemed to be chewing on my nipples) and he clamped down on that and went to town chewing happily on my finger.

AND seemed to really settle when I applied pressure to his gums.

Surely he can't possibly be teething yet can he?:confused:

None of mine have started this until about 4 or 5 months.

[bubbybean]

Buddy - :hugs:, I do hope things get better for you and bub real soon. I feel like such a whinger about petty ailments when you are having such a hard time of it! Wishing you both well.

CM - You sound like a supermum with 4 kids on your own! You do deserve a break thats for sure. I couldn't imagine having 2 let alone 4. :yelclap:

I think our wind issues have resolved themselves ... used infacol a couple of times but think it might be making poos a bit runnier and does anyone else get multi-coloured ones? I think our main problem is prob just arsenic hour crying for the hec of it!

Hooves - funny you should mention teething but DS does seem to have a lot of saliva now all of a sudden? Doesn't saliva mean teeth are coming too?

AFM- DS is being a fussy feeder lately .... gone from at least 120ml each feed to usually only 80 and then sometimes 180! Very annoying and wasting alot of formula doing this ... then last feed before bed can sometimes down 220 before he settles! Any suggestions mums on if we can try to regulate this a bit ? Been trying to stretch him out to at least 3hr between feeds just so he is hungry enough to drink a proper feed and not just a snack.

[shockinamillion]

Buuby bean, mine are doing that with the formula too, I am lucky though in the way that I can make an extra 60 mls and share it between them and only waste a little formula. I am going to start making a 180 ml bottle for every 120 one and share it.

[Mrs Awesome]

Thanks for all of your well wishes ladies!
We are settling in well back at home, but I do think Harry is having a growth spurt....crappy timing with my milk supply having dropped while he was in hospital.
Sorry no personals but i need to go back and read what I have missed out on properly, so hopefully will get to them soon.
Hope you and all yours bubs are happy and healthy!
Amy xx

[bubbybean]

shock - good idea for you, one advantage of two heah! how do you feed two bubs bottles and burping them at once? hope their not both hungry at once i suppose!
do you sterilise bottles? our hospy said hot soapy water was the current recommendation but we still sterilise in microwave too. can do it with my eyes shut by now but will be glad once old enough to stop sterilising now we have started!

[branjie]

bubbybean I have no idea re. stretching out feeds etc. I am hopeless. With all three of mine I've feed them two hourly, and with this one she seems to snack in between! I seem to always be feeding her. I went to the shops with her yesterday and had to go to the feeding room twice. Then we went to a cafe, and after I ordered, she was demanding a feed and I had to feed her there. I'm so reluctant to leave her unfeed for more than a short while that I have organised a mobile hairdresser to come today, so I don't have to go to a salon.

buddy so sorry to hear that your DS has been in hospital. You could try expressing after feeds to increase your supply. That has worked for me in the past.

Hooves my little one looks like she has tiny teeth buds in her gums. She's dribbling all of a sudden, and she has been known to bite during feeding. Can't be teething yet surely.

[mommy2b]

Well hello mummies!!

It's been 5 and a bit weeks since Trinity arrived and about the that since I've been online. Sorry no personals but I did do a quick catch up read and hope all babies are now out of hospital and recovering well and adjusting to home life. I hear you all mum's who are feeling a little 'cage fever', my loung room is my haven at the moment, I have to force myself to open the blinds.

Just a little run down on my last 5weeks...birth was long and lets just say 'not fun'. Had troubles with BF attaching but seems to be working well now with a nipple shield (after the initial sucking and blister in the nipple - ouch!) Trying to get a bit of a sleeping pattern going, mostly 3hrly feeds and 4 1/2 hrs sleep from midnight then 3hrs again. That was until last night when I think we eventually got to sleep at 2am on the recliner until 6.40am.

Had a few very trying nappies and had the odd blow out just as we're about the go out, I'm told that's to be expected :yes: I can't believe that poo has the ability to travel right up to her arm pit, it's amazing once you get past the shear terror and the smell... I am looking forward to a sleep pattern though and have borrowed my sisters-in-law "Save our Sleep", any one used these methods?

Any hoo just wanted to touch base and say hi again and horay and welcome to mother hood one and all :flowerz::goodvibes:

[kazza76]

Hi ladies.

Wow. So much has been going on. My thoughts go with all of you that have made the trip back to hospi with sick kids! :hugs: It must be so scary for you.

Sounds like everyone is going through similar issues! With us, well Jack is finally putting on weight. I had to top up his feeds as my supply was bad (only getting about 80mls out of each side) and now my supply is dropping right down so I am weaning him off BF. Plus I have to start taking my diabeties medication again and that's not good for him.
AF, Well I have had one. I got her about 6 weeks after Jack was born and it wasn't too bad. A bit crampy, but no where near as heavy as before. I am going to have the Mirena put in next month. Mainly because I can't go back on the pill after having Cholestasis as my liver is too damaged and the pill will make it worse.
DTD, We waited about 4 weeks and then made the big leap. It wasn't as bad as I thought. Our love life is no where NEAR like it was before, trying to find time around feeds, sleeping time etc PLUS the energy to do it!
Jack is now 4.5kilos and 9 weeks old. How time flies. He is underweight for his age, but perfect weight for his corrected age. He's had a REAL problem with constipation the last couple of days, but thankfully he went this afternoon. So maye the screaming with tummy pains might settle now.

Has anyone gone to many mothers groups yet? I was going to go to our local one last week, but felt a little weird about it so didn't go.

Hope you are all well :hugs::flowerz:

[kazza76]

oh one other question before I forget. Is anyone having a name day? We have decided to have one for Jack in September and we have been asked to pick out some readings. I've got no idea what to look for!

[iMischa]

all this talk of AF, well we are coming up on 6 weeks this friday since ollie was born and the bleeding that comes from having the baby still hasnt gone away :| so its just one long drawn out continous pain in the butt. :|

bubba got weighed and is 5027g lil chubba! starting to go into the 000's now.

he's quite sick atm, bad chesty wheez+cough and a blocked nose :| such a nightmare...i can hear the phlem everytime he breaths its righttttt there just needs a good cough but he does this mini coughs that dont shift it at all..so frustrating i keep coughing just instinctively when i hear it, being an asthmatic i know EXACTLY what its like and its horrible.

kaz - i was meant to goto my first mothers group gathering today but with bubsy being sick i called the chn and cancelled...hopefully we can go next week just to suss it out...i'm socially challenged so it might be a bit rough. some of the mothers i know love their mothers group and still catch up every week and their children are 2!

[Frocky]

Hi everyone

Kazza - I was disappointed at first with my mum's group as most of the babies were 4 or more weeks older than Liv so I felt out of place when we talked about settling etc. and everyone else had no problems and had moved on from the stage where you don't know what you're doing, which I was still at! I did go back though and met a nice mum (and ignored the one who talks about herself ALL THE TIME :laughing:) so may go back today. Definitely give it a go if you don't know many other new mums in the area. Personally I enjoy the walk there with the stroller as much as the group itself.

Mischa - sorry to hear Oliver is sick, here's a hug for him (and you) :hugs:

Mommy2b - I tried the Save our Sleep routine for one day and Liv just screamed as trying to get her to stick to particular times of the day all of a sudden made her overtired. I've just taken the time periods for now and am slowly trying to inch her in the right direction but if she doesn't do it I'm not going to stress. Good luck and let us know how you get on!

Buddy2008 - glad to hear your little one is on the mend :yelclap:

Hooves - my MIL said she was born with a tooth already out so you never know!


AFM - I took Liv to the chiro today and had her neck adjusted and had something inside her mouth fixed that has made her suck stronger as her reflex had got very weak meaning I had to feed her more often. I definitely noticed an improvement afterwards so recommend chiro as many others on here do! Branjie - Liv was snacking before this was done so might be worth a try?

Went to see Susie and Sam on Monday - thanks for the cheesecake Susie :wave:
I had a hellish day on Tuesday where she screamed for 21 hours straight (with the odd 10 min catnap to recharge). It was not a nice experience, just hoping it was a one off.

[niks28]

Frocky - You poor thing, 21hrs! You must of been knackered after that. :hugs:

Kazza - The CHN forgot to tell me about my mothers group so I missed out on a week, I have now been for 3 weeks and Im not sure if I will keep going. All the mums are in the 30's with DH's and I feel just so out of place! But it is good to get out of the house and talk to other mum's as I dont know many mum's :)

Hi Mommy2b! Have looked after a 14 month old who goes by the Save our sleep routine and her mum just raves about it! She was very easy to get to sleep and never a grizzly child. Good luck with it.

AFM - I got a 5.5hr sleep last night :smiliedance: 11pm - 4.30am! Blair was starving though by then and screamed while I changed her nappy then slept till 7.30, then another feed then slept 8.30am - 10.30 so now is happily cooing and smiling on her activity mat. So good when she has proper sleeps and feeds. Going to go bath her now and then go to Target and buy her the fisher price mat with the mirror on it.

Have a great day everyone.

[bubbybean]

Hi All,

Frocky - ouch, 21 hrs would have been tough! Hope she grows out of that one real quick for you. Glad to hear the chiro helped but.
Jealous about meeting susie and having cheescake but! Yum! no-one on here would be able to visit me/vice-versa, to far in the diglies of C-Qld.:laughing:

What is Save our Sleep? Sounds interesting. Mason is really good through the day and I put him down on his tum after each feed and he either goes to sleep for a little catnap then wakes for play or stays asleep until next feed (3 hrly at day). Night we wrap him and put on back and usually goes 3/4 hrs between feeds. Doesn't seem to sleep as soundly as day time but as I dont think he is comfy on back. Too scared to put him on tum at night but. He always seems to grunt and carryon alot on his back.

Mischa - hope bub gets better soon. Mason was gaining about 400g a wk but slowed down now to 200g/wk. Gunna be a big boy me thinks!

Anyway DH home for 3 days this weekend. Can't wait. have two lunches and one dinner outing so that will stuff any routine up! Wish me luck!

[niks28]

Bubbybean - Save our sleep is a book written by Tizzie Hall and its all about routines, settling etc. I think she uses controlled crying but I havent read it so not sure!

Sounds like you have a good routine going, I find Blair sleeps way better on her tummy too and I too am scared to put her on her tummy at night so makes it heaps harder to settle her then so she just ends up in bed with me..... I know I shouldnt but it's hard when at 2 in the morning and she is awake and wont go to sleep but if I put her in our bed she is fast asleep in 2 secs!

[Sheer Bliss]

Frocky - :hugs: on the 21hrs - ouch!! Glad the chiro went well - it helps my kiddies too. If you are up this way again - i'd love to meet you guys too!!

mischa - poor bubby being sick, hope he is well again soon.

Ah cr@p...DD1 just had a hissy fit because her jigsaw got messed up....woke Eli up as he is in the swing. Was popping in to say - wow, i had sleep last night!! Eli was only up 3 times and the last time (3am) i got him back to sleep in the cot until 5:30am, then a feed and asleep in the swing until now! I actually got to sleep on my own! Princess Lexi - slept from a 7:30 feed (DH had to resettle her a few times up to 9pm) until I woke her at 6:30 because my boob was going to explode!! Woo hoo!! I hope it continues!

Nice...he had a winge and put himself back to sleep!!

bubby - sounds like you have a nice busy social weekend planned - ejnoy!

niks - great job on the big sleep - you feel so rested hey!!

:wave:mommy2b - i tried the SOS with DD1 when she was bout 8months. I didn't adhere to it strictly, but it was a great guide for us.

kazza - I never had much luck wiht mothers group after i had DD1. Didn't bother with DS1 and not again this time. I have a lovely group that I catch up with once a week (started as a BH group and has evolved a little) and the lovely susie met with us last time, so it was great to meet another June mummy, plus I have met up with triple time a few times, so it's all good! It's nice to have a chat with mothers with bubs the same age, but you guys are great for that too!!

AFM...busy, busy week!! DH on night shift this week, so i'm alone from 10pm-8am...not fun with Eli waking so much. I gave them both a bottle of formula the other night to see if they'd sleep for longer....i shoudl have trusted my instincts and NOT done that. Lexi slept for half an hour longer, and it made no difference to Eli! Clearly milk is not the issue with their sleeping. And i did a tupperware party on Wednesday!! My sis called tues morning, she had bronchitis and had a party at 10am on wed that she didn't want to re-schedule, so aked me to do it...I had just been expressing the last few days, so had enough to leave one feed defrosted with mum, and a tetra brick of formula JIC they needed a second feed. They didn't, DD slept almost the whole time, and if mum had of stretched DS out They would have not had a bottle at all! But the milk was defrosted, so had to use it! It went well, so an extra $150 in my pocket, and i know that I can leave them for a few hours, they will sleep and take a bottle at mums!! :smiliedance: DEF going to try and get to see harry potter next week.

:wave: to everyone i've missed, hope you are all going well!

[branjie]

mischa my post birth bleeding lasted a full 6 weeks with my first two. I think it's normal for some people. Sorry to hear bub is sick. Must be awful. My second son got a cold when he was 2 weeks old, after I'd taken him to playgroup. I've felt guilty about that ever since. I had to use the saline nasal drops to clear his nose before each feed or he couldn't breathe.

Frocky my bub has a really strong suck. So much that it sometimes hurts, so I think she's o.k as far as that goes. When she is due to go to sleep she either cries to let all her tension out or something, or I feed her off to sleep. It's much nicer to feed her off to sleep but I know it's an awful habit to get into, because no one else can ever settle your baby. Then when she wakes, she wants to be fed again. So it's feed, play feed sleep around here.

oh dear, bub has woken up, hopefully more personals later

[branjie]

cm great news about getting some sleep. That's amazing that you managed to do a Tupperware party. Good on you.

AFM I think I've got the flu, high temp and cold symptoms but Panadol is working well. After two boys, this girl baby is so much easier. Might have jinxed myself now, but she's so good. She sits in her rocker while I cook tea, my other two screamed the whole time. Having said that, I've tried settling her in her cot or bassinette for 5 weeks and have just given up. I know it makes life easier if they learn to fall asleep in bed, but it just wasn't going to happen. So, for now I'm holding her or feeding her to sleep, and I'll live with the consequences later. For now I have a very content baby :).

As for mother's group, you only get one with your first baby. I'm still meeting with the girls from my group that started 6 years ago. I know it's pretty hard to get there with a new bub, but if you keep going, you may end up with some brilliant friends. It's handy when you are all going through stages together. You think you're having a hard time, and it turns out everyone else is doing it, and it's normal because they are having a growth spurt or something.

[Frocky]

Branjie, you mentioning your little one only sleeping when held has struck a chord with me. I am getting so frustrated with trying to get Olivia into a routine, getting her to stop chucking up, to sleep in her bed instead of on me and to not need a dummy to settle. I'm at the end of my tether and what with managing her hip problem, I feel like everything is going wrong already and that I'm a bad mum. Are these feelings normal? Am I expecting far too much? I would love just one thing to be right with her but it feels like I'm going to be paying for all these bad habits later on and it might affect her later in life. Please tell me I'm being paranoid.

[The sooper nanny]

Hi girls


Frocky. dont beat yourself up honey. I am a firm believer in doing what you can to get through. Youve had enough to get through with Olivia hip problems. Why does it matter if she takes a dummy or falls asleep on you? Dont stress about getting her into a routine, shes a baby and all she wants is to be with you. Your doing a great job. You do what you need to do.

Branjie- crap about the flu. Hope you feel better soon

CM- you really are amazing tackling all those little ones on your own and then doing a tupperware part to boot! WOW! Im glad Eli is getting better and sleeping well. You can cope so much better with sleep cant you? Were going to harry potter on tuesday and mum is babysitting katelyn. I hope she behaves! Mum is so excited. :smiliedance:

Niks- well done on getting some sleep. We bought Katelyn a fisher price swing the other day. Was very expensive but a friend had one and she tried it out. Of course she loved it and I couldnt resist buying it for her. Oh well!

AFM going to ikea today with the MIL. Every single person in my and adams family have been sick... and I shouldnt jinx it but Ive never been so healthy in my life. Being away from work is a big bonus! Katelyn is being really good, colicky in the morning but tells us what she needs and were getting there and enjoying her so much. She giggles and grins now... so cute :cloud9:
Heres a couple of pics of my princess

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2271709&l=5483e71f17&id=743743512

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2271712&l=75ce38dad6&id=743743512

[niks28]

Shazzi - Is that a fisher price one? We got given a blue swing thing by fisher price with sea animals all over it, but it swings so fast I feel sorry for Blair, she'll get motion sickness!

Frocky - I agree with Shazzi, do what works and dont stress about routines. Liv is only little and just wants mummy cuddles, theres nothing like them! We have no routine here and I tried getting Blair to sleep in her bassinet the other day and in the end we were both crying, and ends up in our bed most nights!

AFM - Blair slept from 11 - 7.30.... my (.)(.) were like rocks though when I woke up at 6 and I couldnt get back to sleep :laughing: FInally got back to sleep at 6.45. Also our puppy got stung by a bee last night and his face has all swollen up, looks like a cartoon character! Was so worried about him last night but he is fine now running and tearing things apart now.

Have a great weekend everyone!

[iMischa]

just a little update, have been in hospital with Oliver for the past few days, with drips and oxygen tubes and heart monitors all hooked up, massive fever, heart rate going out on control *reaching upto 217* respitory rate hitting the 40's...

he is finally stabilized now, but they say he has swine flu...not contageous anymore apparently but still a very sick little man. as its viral not bacterial they arent giving him anything..so really they say we just hafto wait it out :( my poor baby boy...

[The sooper nanny]

Shazzi - Is that a fisher price one? We got given a blue swing thing by fisher price with sea animals all over it, but it swings so fast I feel sorry for Blair, she'll get motion sickness


We got the little lamb fisher price cradle swing. It does swing fast but theres 7 different settings. Its a cradle shaped like a pod. Ill show you a photo of my friends one.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2256497&l=9d1b52abab&id=743743512

They dont make the jungle one anymore, its a lamb design, very cute. Theyre on backorder so I havent received it yet, its on layby... cant wait til it comes in!! :smiliedance:

[Mumofcoops]

I apologise in advance i've not been in here for ages. I've been reading but just can't keep up to post.

First of all MW :hugs::hugs: to you all. What a horrible experience to go through. Glad to hear he is doing better now, poor little fella!!

Frocky, i am trying to teach Tyler to self settle but also want him to be able to be held to sleep too. My older DS will ONLY sleep in his bed on his own which has made going out with him at night time hard LOL So it's not always a bad thing to let them sleep on you etc. Also, we never used a dummy with DS1 but OMG there is no way i could live without one this time!!! The way i see it is that you have the control to get rid of it when you are ready. If it helps you out now while you are getting the hang of things then so be it. Do whatever you have to do to get through this early stage and enjoy it and worry about getting rid of things later when you are up for the challenge :)

Sounds like everyone is going pretty well, also sounds like there are some pretty great sleepers out there! My DS2 is having his last feed at 6.30pm, in bed by 7 and then wakes around 11-11.30pm for a feed then again at 2-3am, then again around 4-5am!!!! OMG his brother was sleeping from 11-5.30 by 4 weeks so this is killing me LOL I know i shouldn't compare but it's so hard not to. I think i might try him back in my bed after the 11pm feed and see if he sleeps longer and if he does i'll do that for a few nights while his body gets used to it.

I have been starting to feel a lot closer and more connected to DS2 this past week. I can't believe the bonding took soooo long! He is giving some gorgeous big open mouth smiles now which really do just melt your heart :cloud9:

He had 6 week check up on Thursday and is already 4.93kg (gee they grow so fast don't they!!!) It's amazing, 6 weeks doesn't sound like a long time but it feels like SOOOOOO long ago that i was in hospital having him!

Here are a couple of pics, don't think i've shared any yet

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/kylz4/tyler1025.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/kylz4/Tyleroption4.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/kylz4/Tyleroption1.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e157/kylz4/boys012.jpg

[Mrs Awesome]

MW - :hugs:Poor Oliver! Poor you! I know how you feel to have a little one in hospital....its scary! Glad to hear he has turned the corner now and is starting to improve. Make sure you look after yourself also, as it is exhausting!!

MoC - Good job with the feeding, sounds like Tyler is putting on weight fantastically!!

Shazzi - what a lucky girl Miss K is getting such a cool rocker!

Niks - Harry slept through from 12-9 last night too...I can sympatise with the sore bb's. LOL. Sooooo worth it though for the catch up on sleep!

Frocky - Sorry to hear your little one is having a hard time settling. I agree with the others...do what is right for you guys, there is no right or wrong thing to do....thats why they dont come with instructions! In the meantime :hugs:.

Branjie - Hope you dont have the flu and whatever symptoms you had have passed! :hugs:to you if you have!

CM - good on you for getting out to do a tupperware party! That money will sure come in handy!

AFM - organising my friends hens party tonite....topless waiters... mmmmmmmm. Have to take Harry with me thpough cos I will be out about 8 hours and would need to express anyway, plus dont really wanna leave him with him just coming out of hospital etc. Whatever you ladies are doing tonight, hope its fun! xx

[bubbybean]

Hi All,

Buddy - A hens night sounds like great fun! Enjoy.

Shazi - cool swing ... I had bought Mason a vibrating rocker but he isn't real fussed on it ... borrowed a similar fisher price swing from a friend that is a few years old but he loves it much more ... frees up mums hands too!

Mischa - :hugs: to you both. hopes things get better real soon.

Niks - wow that is a long sleep ... bring some of those vibes over to my DS! I can't wait for that long sleep.

Frocky - :iagree: with the others ... whatever works for now is OK. I felt the same as you till a few days ago and realised "just wing it and we will get there". As much as us organised gals need bub to follow a plan it just wasn't happening for me so you feel much better when expectations aren't met if you don't have any!

AFM - jealous of you all who are getting smiles .... Mason is 8 wks on wed and still haven't got a proper one ... they are nearly smiles but more funny windy faces I think.

[branjie]

OMG I just spent ages writing out a post with personals to everyone who had posted since I last wrote, and lost the lot. Agh!!!!!!!!!!

O.k I'm going to have to keep it short this time.

Frocky I wrote an essay to you in my post that I lost, but I haven't got time to write it all again. When you are a first time mum, you second guess everything you do, and if bub is upset, or something is not working, you think you are doing something wrong. Chances are, you're doing everything right, no baby is happy all the time. Please, just do what is working best for your baby now. Books tell you rubbish like you're going to set up a bad pattern for life, that's so not true. Babies, and then as they become kids adapt and change as they grow. I have found it best to do what works for my kids at each stage. I fed or held my first two off to sleep for about a year. We have the most wondeful bond now, and they are certainly not clingy or anything because of it. They feel secure knowing I'm always there for them. I say just do what's best for your baby now, and the future will work out, you'll see. As for dummies, OMG I've tried to convince my baby to take one for the first 5 weeks, thinking it would be easier if she went to sleep sucking on the dummy, than sucking on me (now I'm busy with three kids). My DH and I think babies with dummies are so cute, but not one of my three kids would take a dummy. My friends who have used dummies have found them to be really handy, and have actually been surprised at how easy it has been to wean the child off it when the time is right. One mum said the dummy was worn out, we'll have to throw it in the bin, and she was shocked when her son said o.k at about the age of two. Another mum got her daughter to give her dummy to some imaginary fairies. Once the child gets to the age of two, if you get them to only have the dummy at nap time, guess who'se kids still have a nap. Not mine, but the kids who still have a dummy do. O.K enough rambling from me.

Mischa :hugs: your poor bub. I hope he gets better real soon.

sorry I don't have time to re-write the rest of the personals.

My flu is getting better I think, don't have a temp at the moment. My kids have had the same flu, except our baby. I think the B/Fing is the only thing that has saved her. Think I'll go lay down while she's asleep. Hope everyone has a good sleep tonight.

[Sheer Bliss]

I will reply properly later...just wanted to send massive :hugs: to frocky - you are NOT a bad mum!! The only way I am sane ATM is by doing what works!! Eli sleeps in my arms most the time, or in a hug-a-bub, DS1 is skipping his day sleep and DD1 falls asleep watching TV most nights....its less stressful than trying to do everything 'right' if that makes any sense. It might bite us on th a55 later, but it works ATM. Lexi is actually screaming in the rocker as we eat our dinner.....eli is in my arms asleep, and dh tried for 5mins to settle her, and sge just wont stop....we need to eat, so it has to be done, it sux, but oh well.

And Mischas :hugs: to you and poor bubba!!! glad he is on the mend, but how scary.

[GoldLeader]

frocky - dd (now 4 yr old) co-slept with us from day 1. dd was intensive and very fussy and demanded my attention 100% of the time, refused the cot and would scream the second we tried to put her there. She fed on a 2 hourly schedule and I had to sleep around the clock with her. She was addicted to her dummy. She also hated the car and her pram. we ended up following 'attatchment parenting' even though we had not planned this. I ended up loving it and still miss having her sleep with us. When dd was a newborn I had the same feelings as you and somebody told me something that I will always remember... modern humans are the only mammals who expect their babies to sleep without their mother... babies only need one thing and that is their mummy.
When dd turned 3 I (by this stage I was so used to having her there) finally decided I could cope with not having her in my bed. We took her bed shopping and let her choose her own bed (a pink one of course). From the day it arrived she never came back into our bed and that has been her choice not ours. We 'gave' our dummies and bottles to the sick babies in hospital who needed them more than we did, and she took a couple of nights to settle without them and then never looked back. The only evidence of our attatchment parenting now is that we read a bedtime story to dd and stay with her until she falls asleep (up to 15 minutes), and an intelligent confident beautiful little girl who is ready to start prep...I am the proudest mummy in the world and have no regrets about anything we have done.
If you do co-sleep then there is plenty of information out there about how to do it safely, and I would be happy to chat more about it.
ds is happy to sleep in his bassinet and doesn't have any of the issues dd had...and I am the same mum...it is the baby and not the mum. I still rock ds to sleep even though he doesn't need it because I want the some platinum bond with ds that I have with dd, and i truly believe that this is due to all the cuddles.

mw - :hugs: to you and oliver.

shazzi - I have the same swing (older model from dd) and love it. it is so easy to move around....just pick it up with bub inside and take from room to room...we did some baking together in the kitchen yesterday with it.

[niks28]

GL - I agree with the bonding when you cuddle babies to sleep, my sister would always stop breathing when sleeping as a bub so would be hooked up to monitors every night and never got cuddled to sleep now as an adult she is the most awkwardest (is that a word??) person to cuddle! We co-sleep here, what tips do you have for co-sleepers?

Shazzi - Your cradle swing looks way more comfier than Blair's one..... No wonder they fall asleep in them, looks so cozy!

Buddy - Hope you enjoyed your night!

MoC - Hope you got some more sleep tonight.

AFM - Blair slept from 11 to 5.30 last night :smiliedance: But not getting my hopes up that she will do this on a regular basis.... She did this to me 2 weeks ago then went back to 3hr feeds ohwell! Having a boring day here, DP has gone wakeboarding so its just me & blair at home but I want to do something apart from cleaning & cooking & watching TV!

Have a great day everyone xx

[Mrs Awesome]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2228429&l=a44b606d8a&id=714508308

Thought you might all like to see what Harry and I got up to last night!!

[kazza76]

Hi Ladies!

Frocky, Please don't feel alone. As a first time mum as well. I second guess everything that I do. I am constantly in a panic that Jack might not meet his development milestones, or that I am doing something wrong. We pretty much hold Jack through out the daylight hours unless he has tummy time or playing on his Gym and finally put him in his bassinett after his 11pm feed. I know it might be setting him up for bad habbits, But I hate the screaming and crying as it breaks my heart. Your not doing anything wrong in my eyes!

Misch, Oh matie. I hope Oli is ok. You poor thing having to go through all that stress! You are in my thoughts and I hope your little man gets home soon!

Buddy, That's one heck of a baby sitter. What's his rates? I don't ever remember the baby sitters club looking like that when I was a kid! Yummo

A big :wave: to everyone!

AFM, Well had a pretty good weekend. Jack's tummy problems seems to have corrected himself. Though (TMI) he's movements are still green. But at least he is going! We had beautiful weather on the weekend so I took Jack over to mum's for the day and we went for a walk around the point. It was great. We also asked DP's aunt and unlce to be Jack's guardians. They were so excited. So now all I have to do for the name day is write up the service, buy the decorations, order the food and booze, order the cake/deserts....the list is never ending!

Hope you are all well.!

PS. Anyone notice that after having bubs they lost a fair bit of weight then started putting on weight again? Am going back to WW this week!