View Full Version : So sad....poor bubba boys
Sheer Bliss
08-05-2009, 10:45
I am stuck in hospy on bed rest (it's been 2 LONG weeks so far) and I just walked out a friend who had been to visit.
The entry and waiting room was packed FULL of parents with tiny bubbas in prams. We noticed a girl we went to school with and stopped for a chat. Turns out they were all there lining up for circumcisions for their precious baby boys. :crying: I almost burts into tears on the spot (darn hormones) then she proceeded to tell us that yup, you go into one room, confirm all the details, then send bubs off in a cot. He comes back 15mins later either still a bit doped out from the drugs or screaming in pain. She had her other 2 sons done when they were little and said she knows she is in for a night of pain and screaming with her new little one tonight. Then my friend said to him, it's alright buddy, you won't remember it. Awwww, my heart just broke for him, and all the other boys about. Inside I was screaming at them all to reconsider (judgmental, i know as I have no idea on their reasons for getting it done) But being so far pregnant myself, and seeing all these tiny bubbas about to have this done. OMG NOT a good morning. :gloomy: :crying: :no:
If you see children get their ears pierced do you think the same. I know it won't help being pregnant either. They will be ok..:thumbsup:
OMG that is SO sad:crying:
forbetoel
08-05-2009, 10:55
:( I wouldn't want to witness that either.
Poor little boys. :(
A painful procedure that is not without its own risks, and all because of senarios that are very unlikely to even happen. :(It is the good ole if/ but/ maybe/ could.
Routine circumcision should be illegal.
forbetoel
08-05-2009, 10:57
If you see children get their ears pierced do you think the same. I know it won't help being pregnant either. They will be ok..:thumbsup:
Weird analogy.
Put a hole in an ear that the child can one day take out and will close over - or cut off a body part.:confused:
At least equate it to something within the ball park.
If you see children get their ears pierced do you think the same. I know it won't help being pregnant either. They will be ok..:thumbsup:
Yeah- that analogy doesn't work.
Would YOU feel the same if it were baby girls?
Thats awful- I would have cried too and I'm NOT pregnant so it's probably not just the hormones.
I actually dont think you were being judgmental at all- considering all of there were tiny new babies you could pretty safely assume it's all RIC- none of them, in their tiny little lives would have had TIME to get a 'medical condition" or numerous infections or whatever reasoning is used.
It is a monthly thing up there- on a certain Friday of every month the cattle call starts. Thats why there would have been so many of them too! Poor poor poor little boys.:(
forbetoel
08-05-2009, 11:13
Yeah- that analogy doesn't work.
Would YOU feel the same if it were baby girls?
.:(
Now that is a fair comparison.:)
Blueberry Crumble
08-05-2009, 11:22
Weird analogy.
Put a hole in an ear that the child can one day take out and will close over - or cut off a body part.:confused:
At least equate it to something within the ball park.
I haveto agree. There is NO WAY that ear piercing is the same as circumcision!
I would have been upset for them too :(
Phyllis Stein
08-05-2009, 11:23
Shiz, I'm glad it wasn't me there, I don't know if I'd have been able to stop myself shouting at all the parents not to do it!!!
I'm aghast, if you're going to submit your infant to this procedure, at least don't have it done within a "conveyor belt" system that won't respect their needs at all! And be with them! I could never hand my DS over to someone else to have such a traumatic surgery while awake and not be there, right beside him! Poor bubbas!
:crying::crying::crying:
But see? it's called burying your head in the sand.
If they can't 'see' the pain on their babies face then it must not have hurt that much. And they wont remember it anyways.....
Easier to justify to themselves.
Appeases the guilt a little bit? If they have any?
What you don't see didn't really happen yanno?:(
grass is always greener
08-05-2009, 15:31
I feel for those lil bubbas.
It sounds like a deli, pull up, take a number, and wait your turn.
:( Those poor bubbas. I cant believe some mums pay to put their bubbas through pain.
But see? it's called burying your head in the sand.
If they can't 'see' the pain on their babies face then it must not have hurt that much. And they wont remember it anyways.....
Easier to justify to themselves.
Appeases the guilt a little bit? If they have any?
What you don't see didn't really happen yanno?:(
:iagree::iagree: I cried when I seen a procedure done. I WILL NEVER get it done without pain relief. NO way. I will also feel slack to Sibel when I get her ears pierced. :(
Its heart breaking to see anychild go in for surgery no matter whats its, for but to see them go in for elective surgery must be horid
Im surprised at how it is done there as its no tlike that here they go to theatre and are put under certainly not a 15 minute thing like you discribed that sounds like a butchers shop
Fuchsia!
08-05-2009, 19:23
If you see children get their ears pierced do you think the same. I know it won't help being pregnant either. They will be ok..:thumbsup:
Yep i would still feel that way, even though its not the best comparison.
I can't stand people modifying their child for their own purposes.
OP i would have literally thrown up, i truely would. Just thinking about it makes me feel sick, to actually see it would make me physically sick.
Im so sorry that you had to see that :hugs:
The whole "he won't remember it" thing makes me feel sick and angry too!
GAHHHHHH! :hair: :banghead:
Fuchsia!
08-05-2009, 19:24
:iagree::iagree: I cried when I seen a procedure done. I WILL NEVER get it done without pain relief. NO way. I will also feel slack to Sibel when I get her ears pierced. :(
Why would you get it done it will make you feel bad, doesn't that say something? :confused:
Mamalicious
08-05-2009, 19:24
If you see children get their ears pierced do you think the same. I know it won't help being pregnant either. They will be ok..:thumbsup:
Hun...you know I love you, but sh!t!!
I totally disagree with piercing kids ears, but it's minor compared to circumcision.
Circumcision is the loss of a body part for the rest of your life, if that decision is going to be made it should really be done by the owner of said body part...don't you think?
:iagree::iagree: I cried when I seen a procedure done. I WILL NEVER get it done without pain relief. NO way. I will also feel slack to Sibel when I get her ears pierced. :(
They don't always wait for the anaesthetic to kick in. :barf:
And it hurts for ALOT longer than just during the surgery.
I was reading that modern day circumcision takes ALOT more off than it did way back when Muslims and Jews started doing it, and so some people choose not to do it.
Could have done with that info 2 years ago! :(
Shiz, I'm glad it wasn't me there, I don't know if I'd have been able to stop myself shouting at all the parents not to do it!!!
I'm aghast, if you're going to submit your infant to this procedure, at least don't have it done within a "conveyor belt" system that won't respect their needs at all! And be with them! I could never hand my DS over to someone else to have such a traumatic surgery while awake and not be there, right beside him! Poor bubbas!
:crying::crying::crying:
:iagree:
I would have a hard time handing over my child for a serious medical procedure that needed to be done for their health, let alone just handing them over to be *text removed by moderator* without me there to at least comfort them and help them through it!
I think I would have cried just knowing they were all there to have their sons circumcised! And I'm not pregnant and hormonal! :crying:
I am becoming very frustrated due to bubhubbers who can not seem to post in the circ area of our forum without following the rules.
The rules in this area of the forum are BASIC .. the terminology that is not acceptable is CLEARLY listed.
If people continue to use these terms, and create more work for the moderating team, such threads will be immediately and permanently closed. Please re read your posts before posting them on the forum - ensuring they are polite and constructive!
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Thank you
Jenny
MotherNurture
12-05-2009, 01:53
:(
Sad.
And while it's easy to focus on the pain of the procedure and the immediate aftermath, the real tragedy is that the DAMAGE lasts a lifetime. Circumcision removes 1/3 of the skin on a future man's penis, his primary sex organ, his pleasure-center. It destroys the natural comfort-enhancing "gliding mechanism". It permanently externalizes a part that's designed to be protected when not in use. It triggers life-long keratinization...drying, thickening, and progressive desensitization of the glans.
It is heartbreaking to me that some parents think it's their "right" to limit and denude his future sexuality in this way.
Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis. (http://www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/sorrells_2007/)
nugglyboysmum
12-05-2009, 10:13
I would have had to just walk out of the room as soon as the mother said that all those presious bubs were there to be circumcised. I would have cried.
sam's mum
12-05-2009, 10:53
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