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A'sMummy

01-05-2009, 08:53

Morning Ladies :wave: Wow I can't beleive another month has flown by... which means I am getting closer and closer to going back to work :( 31 days left now

Zeph- The pics of lil miss K are absolutely gorgeous, you are right, she is perfect :bee:

My ergo came yesterday, it is so so comfy! I am going to give it a test run at the shops today. I didn't buy the infant insert for it, and her head doesn't flop around in it, but I read somewhere that bubs should be 7kg before they don't need the insert... does anyone know if this is true? I don't want to do her any damage! I am thinking Anya would be around 5.5kg atm... so not too far off. I couldn't find anything about the weight in the instructions... but then again, I had a "boys" look :o

To all those who are sick and have sick bubs, I am sending get well thoughts your way! I hope you're all feeling better soon.
Oh and everyone have a LOVELY mothers day! It is my first mothers day, I am so proud to join the elite and special league of being a MUM!! :cloud9:

parentingrocks

01-05-2009, 10:12

Hi everyone!

CC looks like you have found your new love - online shopping!! haha, hope all your goodies arrive soon. And good luck at the shops today I'm sure anya will be fine in the ergo (I'm assuming you mean those ergo carrier things?) we have a baby biorn (sp???) and they are great! I keep mine in the bottom of the pram in case she chucks a hissy fit while we are out because she shuts up as soon as she is in that... Like she did yesterday arvo actually... I set out on a bit walk and ended up carrying her for about an hour of it because she cracked it!

we are staying indoors today its so fricken cold in melb. I'm in ferntree gully (east) right at the foot of the dandenongs so its bloody freezing! I walked to the milk bar to get the paper before and felt like I got frost bite on my nose... ok slight exaggeration there, but it is cold!!:laughing:

Well i must say my 'proper' making of charli's bed and tucking her in nice and tight worked a treat last night - she slept from 9.30pm - 9.30am with one quick feed at 4am! I was very impressed. She is normally always up by 5/6/7am, so her being asleep til 9.30am was awesome - actually got to have a nice long (:oshould be saving water) shower and dry my hair properly unlike normally when i race through the shower and walk around with crazy wild hair all day cos she was being demanding all morning!!
Well I better be off, have a great day everyone. Hope all those with colds are feeling better soon.

xx

floodprincess

01-05-2009, 11:15

:hugs: to everyone under the weather - I hope the time passes quickly and you all feel better soon!

Not much to report here for a change! Monique's sleeping habits are becoming more manageable (although I'm now lacking the motivation to do what needs to be done - too busy enjoying the peace and quiet).

Ahh, 29 days till I start back at work......I really wish I could go back part-time, while I love my job I'm really enjoying being a SAHM this time round!! No matter, I'm blessed to have been able to enjoy the first 3 1/2 months at home full time with no pay hassles and I know that I have really good working conditions and flexibility to go back too.

Well, even though I've been more drained and challenged with #2 it hasn't stopped me from thinking about #3 (a boy would be nice) but that won't be for a few more years - there's no way I could cope with a newborn and a toddler!! So that will wait till Miss M is close to going to school...

Anyways, off to check ebay and find a knitting pattern for a hot water bottle cover (I think going from warm arms where she's dozing, to colder cot is some of our settling issues).....

Stay safe & warm ladies!!

Seacretsquirrel

01-05-2009, 12:41

FP - When we were in Melb I think that used to be Z's problem I used my wheat pack - I would heat it pop it into her bed and then take it out when she was ready to go into it I also used little flanelette squares (that mum made) under her head which are warmer than onto cold sheets. - just make sure you take the hot waterbottle out of the cot before bubs goes into it :D

I still have a sore throat and I think Z is coming down with it too she is a bit warm and cranky.
Hope you all are having good days esp those of you southerners who are cold (it is a nice 30 degrees here today - the dry has officially begun so no rain for a few months and the humidity drops so walking and playing outside becomes bearable again.
I am lucky enough to be a SAHM this time too I'll be heading back to work in a couple of years when Riley is at kindy I think (unless we really want a house sooner)
:wave:

AnthonysMama

01-05-2009, 12:47

Oh my is it may already? hasnt time flown i was trying to think of what life was like before anthony today and i honestly cant remember. Took lil man to the clinic this morning hes 5.8kgs and 61cms long, growing way to fast i doubt that he will be in 000 clothes for much longer (thank god for ebay ive been buying 00 everything as well as kmart and big w, best and less had long sleeved no leg jumpsuits the other day for $2.49 so i grabbed a few of them too! 9 days and its mothers day, i cant wait DH has brought me new pjs and SnowBuddies dvd (such a big kid at heart i am). Im thinking of you all that are sick and hoping that you are your precious lil ones get well soon!

Will drop in later to see how everyones day was!

quitecontrary

01-05-2009, 13:49

Happy May Day!! We'd be having a public holiday if we were in England - and a week off if we were in China!! I miss that place tooooo much, I know I'll be pestering dh to take us all back there again before too long.
SS get that dummy out of your mouth! Especially if you've got a cold!
Oh, I feel for those of you who are heading back to work soon. There are no plans for me to go back into the paid workforce. I couldn't imagine it, especially with the two little ones. I'm so happy to be able to stay home - well, most of the time!
We are off to the Southern Highlands tomorrow and I can't wait! A couple of days of different scenery, meals out and fun with the kids!

gonnabeaGR8mum

01-05-2009, 14:49

well well well, hello again ladies!!!

looks like we're all evolving into fantastic mummies- especially those of you with older children, i take my hat off to you ladies, i think you are superwomen!!

i have been faithfully reading the daily updates of the feb mum's thread but never seem to have the chance to weigh in

its been so long that i don't think i can do personals but :hugs: to those with unwell bubs, DH and i have the flu at the moment but E seems to have escaped so far, thank God for boobie juice and its immunity powers :yelclap:

we are just about full time in cloth nappies now, and to be honest it doesn't seem much harder than when we were using only disposables or half and half, and its only an extra load every 2 days so i can't really complain.

lately i have had some concerns about the amount of milk Eli is getting as she doesn't seem to be stacking on the weight like everyone else's bubs (only 400grams in the last month) but i spoke to the nurse at the pharmacy yesterday and she said as long as she settles between feeds, sleep alright and has at least 5 (not the 7 that i was told) wet or soiled nappies then she is fine...i so hope she is right!

Elianna is also a tightly wrapped to sleep baby- although DH has been trying to get me to sleep her unwrapped during the day so she doesn't get too used to it. and yesterday we managed 2 x 2hr sleeps unwrapped, but today we're back to only sleeping with those hands firmly tucked away...oh well i guess it won't happen overnight. She is still in her cradle in our room, but i don't think it will be for much longer as she gets quite a bit of moment up when frustrated and has nearly shaken the locking bolt out a couple of times- i have nightmares of her rocking herself out and hitting her head on the tiles underneath, so i guess i need to start preparing myself to have my baby in her own room :( i'm not ready for her to grow up so quick!:hissy:

i can't wait for my first mother's day either! DH has organised al the pressies this year so that i don't have to stress, and we are going out for lunch on the day...i'm so hapy to be a mummy!!!

is anyone else struggling to keep the weight off while breastfeeding?? i didn't gain any weight during the pregnancy (which was great as i'm already a bigger girl) but since the birth i have been packing it on! anyone have any motivational tips?

ok thats probably enough from me, i'm so happy we have each other to share this wonderful journey with

xoxoxox Kath

Seacretsquirrel

01-05-2009, 17:47

QC - Ive been good since I posted that no more dummy in mouth (I know I shouldn't do it anyway so I guess it is good to get out of the habbit now!) I have had to chuck 2 dummies cause he lost it as we were getting him into or out of the car and they dropped on the ground so into the bin the went - such a pain cause they are not too cheap and I have a DD who seems to make them dissappear - I am sure she must have 3 or 4 hidden somewhere I keep having to buy new ones. Oh well they will be gone in a few months anyway (DD's was gone by 6 months and hope to do the same with DS)

Now the big question - does anyone know of a good vacuum (not too dear) for tiled floors my dyson has given up the ghost - DH has fixed the cord a few times and it keeps breaking very frustrating so I am going to get a new one!!!:yelclap:
Kath I too am a bigger girl and am not loosing any weight ATM (hmm might be something to do with the chocolate I keep eating) but I do envy those that loose weight with BF.... was hoping it might happen this time but no such luck so far - I can live in hope!
anyway off to do some more mothers day pressie stuff and have some tea. night night:sleeping:

OneCheekyMonkey

01-05-2009, 17:59

Well I am having major problems what to do re vaccinations. It is not as simple as me not wanting it.

Both sides of the family have a strong history of allergies and both sides have a history of reacting to vaccines. Do I want to risk my baby by not vaccing (mainly pertussis and diptheria) or do I want to risk my baby having a severe reaction?

(I don;t expect any answers btw).

Last vax I had I stopped breathing whilst driving 8 hours after the vax. It was really really scary and I almost crashing the car and they had to get a priority ambulance to the hospital and that was scary, the traffic sucked so the ambos drove along the verge - I thought I was going to die in a car accident on route to the hospital!

Soooooo I am anxiously waiting to hear back from the childrens hospital and hopefully they will admit him for the day/night to monitor for such a reaction.

Arhg sucks

gonnabeaGR8mum

01-05-2009, 18:20

OCM i don't envy your decision, i really hope the hospital will help you out, how scary either way :hugs:

zephani

01-05-2009, 18:26

Both sides of the family have a strong history of allergies and both sides have a history of reacting to vaccines. Do I want to risk my baby by not vaccing (mainly pertussis and diptheria) or do I want to risk my baby having a severe reaction?

I totally understand :-) DH is allergic to all immunisations. He basically got everything he was vaccinated for. He has had chicken pox NINE times and measles THIRTEEN times. Plus his whole family is allergic to egg which most immunisations are cultured on.

Katherine has had her 2 month vaccinations as they are not 'live' vaccinations but DH wants her to allergy tested for egg before her 12 month vaccinations.

He read up on the vaccinations on the NSW Department of Health website. The site can be found here http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/publichealth/immunisation/index.asp .

While I was writing this there was an ad on Prime for there Sunday Night program. They said they were having a report on vaccinations and children. Maybe this will be of help as well? It is on at 6:30pm Sunday night.

If DH or I can be of help feel free to PM me.

BoyCrazy

01-05-2009, 20:06

hey ladies
cant believe its may already, feels like yesterday i got my bfp with jasper!
my little man is growing up heaps, he is rolling, smiling, laughing, and trying to talk
i weighed him today, at 12weeks+3days, 7.04kgs!!! :yelclap: my little fatty boombah! gotta love the boobie juice!
went to kmart sale today and went a bit nuts, lol needed to get jasper some 00 warm winter suits, i got heaps!
nearly mothers day,anyone have any plans?
cant believe i turn 31 at the end of the month, thats really really scary to me lol.
babbling, sorry, hope you all have a good long weekend!

zephani

01-05-2009, 23:55

nearly mothers day,anyone have any plans?

Katherine is getting baptised on Mother's Day and then we are having a bbq at our place with her grandparents, my sisters and their family and her godparents and their families.

A'sMummy

02-05-2009, 08:40

oh gosh I feel stupid, I only just realised mothers day is not this weekend, it's next weekend! :o I was getting so excited about my first Mothers Day, I guess I wanted it to come early heheheheh
Can I still blame pregnancy brain?? :rolleyes:

OneCheekyMonkey

02-05-2009, 10:06

CandC I call it mummy brain ! later I will call it toddler brain.... ;)

Oooh Zephani I will send you a pm, I did see on the news something about vax at 630 Sunday and I will make sure I watch it.

Sigh I just exploded my porridge in the microwave, meh, I really dislike cleaning it.

Hope everyone is well, we are having a family fish and chip thing on the river for mothers day.

Lateralus

02-05-2009, 10:11

Can I still blame pregnancy brain?? :rolleyes:

I think it can fall under the whole 'baby brain' umbrella! :laughing:

Night before last we had an awesome nights sleep with Zoe sleeping for 2 6 hour blocks... But last night, not so good. Awake at 12mn, 2am, 5am, 8:30am. Her sleep patterns just seem so inconsistant overnight even though we try to replicate everything exactly. Ah well - guess that's babies for you! :p

Zoe seems to be going well on her anti reflux meds - still a little fussy on the boob, but a lot more content than she was - and not having the major screaming episodes mid feed and after each feed which is awesome. I am now off dairy AND soy as it seems both make her ill (I trialled some tofu a few nights ago after being off it of a week or so and she had a couple of huge projectile vomits). So I am finding my diet is pretty restricted given that I am also semi vegetarian (eat fish but no chicken or red meat)... :laughing: So much for the unrestricted diet that I had fantasized about when I was pregnant... Now not only can I not eat soft cheese, I can't eat ANY cheese (or chocolate or icecream or yoghurt or soy equivalents... :crying:). Ah well, it won't be forever.

Lateralus

02-05-2009, 11:23

oh - and today it is 2 weeks since Zoe has needed any comp feeds :smiliedance: I think I can safely say that she is now a fully BF Bubba :smiliedance:

We had been keeping up the daily ritual of keeping bottles in the sterile Milton solution 'just in case' - but I have decided that today is the day that we can pack them away! WOOHOO!

Seacretsquirrel

02-05-2009, 11:54

OCM - that is one very hard decision you have good luck hopefully the hospital will help you out - even if you sit in a park or something jsut nearby for a while or in Emergency at least that way you'll be close by if he needs treatment. I guess it depends how long it takes for reactions to rear theur ugly heads.... sorry rambling

C&C - I heard somewhere baby brain is a legitimate excuse until they turn 16!!!:laughing:

KJ- Yippee for fully BFand the anti-reflux meds working, :hugs: for a rough night, and the restricted diet - for me that might be a good thing I might loose some weight:laughing:

AFM I had a rough night with Z last night - she was running a temp and refused to take any nurofen - I can't force her to take it cause she'll vomit (tried it with panadol twice over xmas) she ended up in my bed in the hope that I'd get a bit of sleep rather than getting up every 5 mins to comfort her - I don't usually like having the kids in my bed cause I don't want to start habits that I don't want to continue with but I need a wee bit of sleep sometime. She seems chirpyer (is that a word and SP??) this morning still a bit warm but she had some nurofen this morning so I think that helped.
hope you all have a great long weekend.:thumbsup:

Purplebird

02-05-2009, 12:47

SS - hope Zahlia feels better soon.

OCM - that would be a very hard call to make - I'm sure you'll be getting some good advice though.

Great to see you again GBAGM!

I was looking at this last night about amounts of sleep our bubs should be getting: http://www.ngala.com.au/docs/Secrets%20of%20Good%20Sleepers.pdf

Is anyone actually achieving this amount of sleep with their baby, especially the 7 hours during the day? I can only do it if I pop Cameron in a sling, otherwise he only sleeps for about 40 minutes tops. Is anyone managing the 'feed, play, sleep' routine consistantly? I'm not! It will be nice when it comes good though just so I can have a more predictable day for Miss Terrible Two :rolleyes:

Seacretsquirrel

02-05-2009, 16:11

QC - I do actually manage the feed play sleep thing with master R and 7 hours of sleep during the day is no dramas for me either - I actually think he sleeps too much I am luck if he is awake for an hour before he is cranky and tired plus cause he sleeps on his tummy, tummy time seems to become nap time.... Oh well I guess I should enjoy the sleeping while it lasts cause my miss terrible 2's has cut her day sleep most days (she did have a couple of hours today though which was nice and it even conincided with R's sleep so I had a nap too :smiliedance:)

R doesn't really like the sling very much unles he is asleep if he is awake he squirms and stretches his legs out until we take him out and he can see what is going on am thinking more and more seriously about an ergo just need to convince DH that the $$$ is worth it - I am jsut not sure how much I'll use it either???

Lateralus

02-05-2009, 17:10

QC some days Zoe would get tat much sleep - but they'd be the exception, not the rule. Today she has on;ly slept about 40 minutes since 8:30am... She's been super tired but just can't get off to sleep. I started a new multivit 2 days ago & am wondering if there is something in it that is over stimulating her :confused: Even on her 'bad' days she normally has more sleep than this. I feel a bit bad because I have just dosed her up on reflux & colic meds AND some panadol all within the last hour... Hopefully the combination of the 3 will help her sleep. I did check with the pharmacist & it's OK to give them all together - I just feel like a terrible mother dosing her up on so much stuff. :(

readytogo

02-05-2009, 17:19

Oh please please I need help..............

I cant stop buying MCN'S we have a stash of almost 150 in just 2 weeks. I'm gonna have her in nappies till she's a teenager at this rate!!!:laughing:
Its even worse as DP is buying them as well so there is no escape in this house:o

Only thing is my baby bonus funded plasma is on hold.....hehe
Its all being spent on her bum............. is there something wrong with me!!!:p

Purplebird

02-05-2009, 20:03

Lateralus

03-05-2009, 08:08

Thanks for the replies SS and Kate - 'twas me that asked, not QC! :D

:laughing: Sorry - will blame that baby brain thing!

Far out, Zoe was so unsettled yesterday. Slept only 40 minutes from 8am 'till 8pm and took so long to settle to sleep in the evening. Then woke every 2 hours at least for a feed. Poor chook. It's dreadful when they got so over tired and won't sleep. DH & I are like zombies this morning. The lack of sleep wasn't helped by the fact that some d**khead was doing burn outs at 4am - it was all we could do to stop ourselves from going out and throwing a brick through their windscreen. I am oober grumpy this morning. :banghead: :hair: :mad: :gloomy:

OneCheekyMonkey

03-05-2009, 08:50

sigh my typing is even worse than usual because apparently the cat has spilt something on my keyboard. it wasn;t me and noone else will fess up. grrrr

my little one probably gets close to 17 hours a day sleep. he has fallen into a pattern of solid sleep between 6pm-8am so there is 14 hours. i mean he wakes for a feed and to get his bum changed but pretty much drops back into ni ni land straight after. he does the feed play sleep during the day.

kate i loathe hoons, but i dont suppose going outside and yelling would make anything better. hopefully you will get some rest today.

rtg whoa that is a addiction. mixed sizes yeah

d is sleeping well between 6pm-1am and then wakes every 2 hours after that. i should consider myself lucky he is sleeping that 7 hour block now but i am just wrecked by 8am. argh.

anyway he is asleep so im going to lie down. and privately fume about my keyboard. it is a new laptop dammit

Seacretsquirrel

03-05-2009, 10:03

Thanks for the replies SS and Kate - 'twas me that asked, not QC! :D I found with DD that we got into a bit of pattern when she was more like 4 months old. I hope the same will happen here.

SS - I know I've said this before but I love my Ergo. Used it an awful lot for DD and looking forward to Cam going into it soon (I don't have the newborn insert for it, although you can use a rolled up blanket instead). It's great especially if you like going walking. DH and I managed some long walks whilst DD was in it.

PB - I claim baby brain too oops:o
I will have to chat to DH about getting an ergo I think cause the sling is not cutting it. He is too heavy and dosn't seem to like it very much unless he is fast asleep.
RTG - that is some serious MCN buying - I just found the swim shorts ones online via someone on here and I think I'll get some for DS they are very cute. (I am a sposie user too but the swim nappies are a bit rediculous $$$ wise I used them for DD but only when we went to the public pool/or next door (we were nudie at home) but if i get these little shorts I can wash and wear them all the time.

a rough night here too Riley was great slept 745 till 2 then till 5 but miss Z kept crying out every 2 hours so I was up and down like a yo yo. we jsut went for a walk and she is watching shrek3 and looks nearly asleep on her wee couch. fingers crossed for a nap so I can have one too:sleeping:

parentingrocks

03-05-2009, 15:58

:hugs: to those with suffering with sleepless nights! I hope you're bubs are better soon so you can have a great nights sleep like you deserve.

I had a greaaaaat weekend! Went shopping all day on Saturday and Charli was a freakin little angel - just slept in her pram and giggled and talked all day, she was a dream. It really restored my faith in her!! Recently when I've been taking her out its really hard she is so hard to get to sit still in the pram without cracking it, she always wants to be held. Then today we went shopping again to find a few things that I couldn't find at Doncaster, so we went to chadstone and she was great again. Now we are home and she's napping with DP on the couch! Yay for me time :smiliedance:
AND I had such success shopping I got a wish dress for $74 which I thought was $110 until I got to the register and realised it was 30% off, a pair of long leggins to wear underneath, a pair of roxy shoes to wear with jeans, a pair of jeans, and another pair of shoes - black flats. I was stocked!! I normally have no success!!

Well I better go use this quiet time to prepare dinner and do some washing - my goodness how does one little person create so much freakin washing!!!!!!!!

:wave:

floodprincess

03-05-2009, 21:33

:wave: all...hope everyone is feeling better - :hugs: to those that aren't.

In relation to the sleeping thing - Monique often swings between the 0-3mth and 3-6 month daytime pattern, depending on where she's sleeping. Night time, normally we get around 8 or 9 hours uninterrupted sleep (from 1930/2000 to somewhere between 0400/0500) which is why I haven't been tooo perplexed over her day sleeps - which are getting better, she'll usually go down about 1/2 after her early morning rise and then sleep for another 3 or so hours. Two 40 min - 1hr catnaps between 0800 & 1400 (again depending on what we're doing) and then around 1430/1500 she'll go down for another 3 or so hours.....

Anyways....we've had a busy weekend. spent yesterday at the hawkesbury show and today out looking around alpaca farms (our family has had a love affair with alpacas for years now)...well, during that time Miss M slept beautifully!!! But, mother dearest (my mum not me) decided that she'd purchase 3 alpacas so we're spending Mother's Day picking them up and getting acquainted with them......

Talk about an impulse buy:rolleyes: never mind, Miss T & Miss M will have a good grasp of camelid husbandry when they get older (and I can build a retirement nest egg).

Take care ladies!

gizmoduckus

03-05-2009, 21:45

OMG! OMG! OMG!

DS2 went down tonight for his sleep without his dummy and without me shushing and patting him.

:smiliedance:

He was a bit grizzly but I was too busy attending to DS1 and by the time I was finished with him, he was asleep.

Unfortunately I pretty sure it will be a one off event. He always seems to get my hopes up and then shoots me down again. :D

floodprincess

04-05-2009, 03:49

zephani

04-05-2009, 07:18

Morning Ladies :-)

Well it's still all coughs, blocked noses, vapourisers, cold and flu tablets, nurophen (sp) and vomit from a sick baby.

I hate seeing Katherine sick :-( She gets so red when she coughs and doesn't understand why we have to but drops in her eyes for her conjunctivitis and up her nose for her blocked nose. We are finding it hard to keep her fluids up without her vomiting it all over us. This morning I fed her in bed and now we have all our bedding in the washing machine..

We get her whooping cough results today and we have our fingers crossed that it isn't whooping cough. Her Christening is this weekend!

My husband is off to the Dr's today to try and get something for his flu. He has had it for nearly two weeks.

I think I'm getting better. I've been dosing myself with cold and flu tablets and nurophen.

We've decided to quarentine ourselves for the week in readiness for her Christening. So expect to see me here heaps :-)

parentingrocks

04-05-2009, 07:18

wow giz thats awesome!! even if it is a once off for now at least you know he is capable of doing it!! Charli won't even have a small nap wothout the dummy its becoming a real worry!!

Well we had a great few nights here, she is getting better and better at sleeping during the night. Still waking for one feed, but it used to be waking for her feed around 2am, then back down til 5/6am ish... but now the feed it at 4/5am ish and she sleeps til about 8/9am ish. I am loving it! I still just get up around 7am when DP leaves for work and do the kitchen, have breaky, have a shower etc all while shes still asleep. I'm lovin it!

We have a friend of mine coming over today who had her baby girl about 3 weeks before me, so its our first little play date! although I'll bet its more sleeping that playing that will be happening cos they are so little still. Ah well.

Think I might change mothers group - the MCHN is pretty crap, always putting an ancient video on and then leaving the room and we learn nothing. A friend from the group switched to another council one and she said it is aweosme - everyone on bean bags, they even had a session on introducing solids and they cooked and tried everything in the class!! I thing I might tagg along with her and switch groups - sorry just thinking out aloud - is everyone else here happy with there mothers group? do you learn anything?

have a great day everyone xxx

parentingrocks

04-05-2009, 07:20

Purplebird

04-05-2009, 08:33

Zeph - how awful, I hope the tests are negative.

Gizmo - that's great about the self settling! Just goes to show that a little bit of grizzling is necessary sometimes. I've found the same thing, because sometimes you have to leave them crying whilst the toddler needs you!

FP - alpacas eh?! Wow, that was an interesting buy - will your mum 'do' anything with them or are they just to look at?! I know the wool fetches quite a lot of money.

I am so tired today (bad night) and am having a housebound day catching up with exciting things like cleaning! Woo! My house is like a bomb site. ON the plus side I am having some luck with the Sounds For Silence CD for sleep times. Anyone else?

BoyCrazy

04-05-2009, 08:52

woohoo! jasper slept from 7pm - 5am last night, 10 hours solid sleep! :D i decided to take advantage and went to bed at 8:30pm myself, i feel so revived this morning!!

zephani, hope k is ok and its not whooping cough :fingerscrossed: am thinking of you.

giz- great news about bub settling himself off to sleep! well done!

hope everyone enjoys the holiday today!! :flowerz:

A'sMummy

04-05-2009, 09:15

Morning Ladies. We had a good night here too! It sounds like all our bubbas sleep routines are starting to sort themselves out YAY! Anya slept from 7.15pm-4.30am then 5am-9am.... its a record it our household!!

Giz- I thought Anya would be stuck with her dummy for every sleep to, but slowly slowly she has been needing it less and less so have faith! ;)

Zeph- :hugs: I hope you get some good results today and it's not whooping cough. I will be thinking of you! :fingerscrossed:

Solsen- My MCHN mothers group seems pretty crappy so far too, but it has only just started and been going for 2 weeks... so maybe it will improve? :confused: We haven't done anything constructive really, just sat around chatting... which I don't mind too much. I have a really big Mothers Group with around 15 mums or maybe even more.

PB- Hope you get some rest today amongst all that cleaning too!

FP- WOW alpacas! They are very cute animals I think... with their big eyes and loooooong eye lashes. What an impulse buy! I am interested to hear what your mum will do with them too!

Seacretsquirrel

04-05-2009, 10:14

Morning Ladies.
C&C and BM :smiliedance: for good nights sleep. Well done to you!

Giz- I started trying to ease the dummy off Z fairly early the first sleeps without were the middle of the night ones feed and straight back to bed with no dummy, then the day sleeps and finally the before bed one. good luck I haven't started trying yet with R I am still working on not having to get up 8times a night to one or the other.

Zeph- :fingerscrossed:its not whooping cough.

Solsen- I don't have a Mothers group - the joys of haveing bubs elsewhere is no continuity of care plus I am slack and haven't really gone looking for one. I have a couple of GFs with slightly older kids and one due in Dec plus I am still attempting to meet the wives of the guys on DH''s boat one of which had a bub a couple of days ago so hopefully that will turn into a friendship esp as they live just round the corner. I tried the MCHN mothers group thing last time but it didn't work ofr our group - we only had 4 of us one much older mum, one with twins, and one other mum around the same age as me but she had family and friends close by so the group dynamics didn't really work and it fell apart after a few weeks.

PB- I'd be making sure you get a nap in there somewhere, I too have a bomb sight for a home too but I'll get there eventually - it is hard with both kids being clingy the last few days - esp Z... R has added his demands today hope it doesn't mean he is getting crook too?

FP- I second C&C's WOW alpacas! I think they ar pretty cute too and from what I have heard much better on the land than sheep or cows etc as they have soft feet, and crop the tops off the grass rather than ripping it out of the ground. I'd be keen to find out what she is going to do with them too.

AFM - I have had yet another pretty sleepless night Z is still running a temp and is up every couple of hours for a drink or a wee or a cuddle plus Riley was up at 2 ish and again at 4 - I tried to pop his dummy in a couple of times but the 4am feed seems to be one he won't give up dispiteonly feeding a couples of hour before. then they were both up at 6 for breakfast that Z demanded but didn't eat.... sigh.
Anyway hope you all enjoy your public holiday with your familys I better go see what R is wanting... I really want them both to go to sleep so I can is that bad???:sleeping:

Purplebird

04-05-2009, 13:56

No that's not bad SS - hope you got your wish! You sound like you deserve a good sleep.

I got very lucky and I have a great MOthers Group. We are all around the same age (30 +) and get on very well. We made our group of ten of us into a Playgroup and we meet at a hall every week. We also do social stuff on birthday/holiday occasions with partners.

jade24

04-05-2009, 14:53

Solsen - I know what you mean about the cold. I live not far from you and actually grew up in Mt.Evelyn [mum] and Boronia [dad]. I hate Melb winters. Did you have Charli at the Angliss?? That's where I had all four of my kids!

Zeph - I will keep my fingers crossed that your little one does not have whooping cough. Hope she gets better soon.:hugs:

BM - Wow! I can't believe Jasper is rolling over. Seriously seems like just yesterday we were waiting for them to arrive!

Gizmo - Congrats on the self settling. I bet you are now on the road to a stress free bedtime :thumbsup:

Coop is still a sick little man here. The cough seems to have gotten a tiny it worse but he is now sleeping a bit better - only up once at 2am this morning. Hopefully he's back to sleeping through very soon. I have to say that he is still mostly an angel during the day and still self settling, so things could definately be worse!
Very excited for the mother's day weekend. On Saturday I am going for lunch and shopping with a friend and then going out for dinner with the playgroup mums. DH is on kid duty :smiliedance: Only thing is that I don't express [just never can figure out how to do it :o] so I have to feed Cooper and then I have to be back for his next feed, so we'll only get around 3 1/2 hours for lunch and shopping. But it'll be sooo nice having an uninterrupted meal for once! I was having dinner the other night with DS2 balancing on my lap and eating one handed, when DH finished his meal he took DS2 off me and it took about 3 minutes before I realised I was still eating one handed :laughing:

floodprincess

04-05-2009, 20:45

:wave: Ladies....

Busy day here, Monique didn't sleep from 0800 to 1700 when I popped her in the car to do a few errands (thankfully though she spent the time just sitting in her bouncer watching mum & I work)...am exhausted though!

Yes, the Alpacas are a major investment and such a cute animal. We plan to breed them once we've gotten long term accommodation for them (the accommodation we had for them fell through this morning so I've had to spend the day trying to find somewhere suitable). But for the meantime we'll be using them for their fleece; we'll be hand spinning and using the yarn ourselves until we get used to the art then slowly building to selling the fleece/yarns at markets and eventually we hope to build up our fleece quality and make some real $$ out of it (plus have the fun of keeping these gorgeous creatures with us).

:hugs: to all you ladies with families under the weather....so far we've avoided the lurgy (:fingerscrossed: and touch wood we manage to stay that way) although today mum has been suffering from aches pains and a runny nose so I don't like our chances.

Stay warm & safe....

quitecontrary

04-05-2009, 21:10

Hello!
Well, we haven't had an official Long Weekend in NSW - our Labour Day is in October - but we had one for our family! We had two nights down in the Southern Highlands enjoying the change of scenery, and the visible change of seasons. The autumnal colours down there are gorgeous. We had a lovely time, such a much needed break for all of us. We have had such a tumultuous year, Dh especially - it was great to have our first official family holiday with Tobias. Such fun!
Too much going on for all of you it seems to try personals!
I have to say that at the moment T is sleeping at least 7 hours during the day, and overnight he goes down for about 12 with a couple of quick feeds, though the number of feeds can change dramatically. At least he goes back to sleep fairly quickly.
On the subject of sleep I think I must drag myself off to bed. Our toddler wasn't too good in the sleep stakes when we were away - but things can only improve eh? Won't stop holidaying, that's for sure!!

janiceg

05-05-2009, 09:27

hey girls,
hope everyone is going alright..:hugs:
dr called me to come back in today as i have a bacterial infection?! which explains why bub has been so sick(thought it was just a cold!). she also has not been eating well:no: i feel so sad that she is sick let alone it being my fault! poor little bug...so i am on antibiotics so hoping we are better soon
remember to send some love to a midwife you care about today; international midwives day!!

A'sMummy

05-05-2009, 10:31

Hi ladies, I hope you all had a restful night.
I just got my 20 cushie tushie MCN's in the mail... Can't wait to give them a go!!
I hope all those with sick lil bubs get better soon. I think Anya might also be coming down with something she is a little snuffly and REALLY grizzly and clingy.
Nothing really exciting going on in my life atm, just seem like a do the same thing every day now :o look after bubs, clean, cook, sleep...
I am missing having my mum around to go out with during the day, we normally hang out and go shopping etc during the week. She is in Finland atm visiting family and will be back in about 4 weeks.
I am taking my dad out shopping with Anya and I this afternoon... but it's just not the same hehe

Anyway, have a good day ladies, I will pop back later

megaminz

05-05-2009, 10:45

hello ladies

janice you poor thing I hope both of you get better soon!!!

well i am having a 5mins catch up on here, I can usually quickly browse but never get time to post due to demanding wee bub. but dh is currently attempting to put him down. He puts him down, walks away confidently like "its so easy whats your problem???" then 5 secs later Milan is awake and crying again...now there is no swagger just an "oh man" hahahhahaha SEEEEEEE

AnthonysMama

05-05-2009, 11:15

Hey girls, it seems like its been forever since i had a chance to get on here!

FP - Im annoyed at myself for forgetting that the hawksbury show was on, grrr it was a nice day for heading out to it as well, i think i still have baby brain!

Not much is happening here we are off for the weekend to forster (ants first holiday) we cant wait, DH's parents are already up there and my sister in law and her DH and DD are meeting us up there!

Hope everyone has a bright day!

natski

05-05-2009, 11:36

Hi ladies:wave:

I have missed you all - pretty much missed out on most of April as I just haven't had the chance to get on here, so sorry for the lack of personals. I hope you are all doing well with your little ones and hugs to those who are sick and have had sick little bubbas.:hugs:

GBAGM - I was told the same thing about Olivia's growth and weight - we went last week and she is only 4.9kg and had only gained 300g since she left hospital after being sick. Our nurse wasn't concerned though, even though she is on around the 10-15th percentile, you can tell she is a healthy, happy baby. I even find her chubby, but she's just 'little'. As long as she's content after feeds and isn't screaming for more, she's getting it right. Oh, and the weight thing - yeah, I stack it on - with DS I did and now with Olivia. I just eat and eat and eat unfortunately. When she was sick I was comfort eating because I was so stressed and anxious, so I found I put on alot of weight during our time in hospital and DH is cooking our meals now and he's not too 'healthy-minded'. I really need to cut out alot of sugar etc...I just crave doughy things right now and want to bake cakes all the time. I feel so blurgh! I've got to be serious and start trying to be healthy and get some exercise...I know it's an excuse, but I just can't find the time :(

It's funny how with your second child, you tend to be a bit more relaxed. I had heard it, but never really realised it. Olivia still isn't sleeping through - she'll usually do one feed a night, sleep through some nights then back to waking once or twice for a feed. It's not bothering me and she's such a happy and easy baby. With DS I felt like he had to be sleeping though by a certain age and thought I had to be in a more strict routine with everything...I'm just going with the flow for now and it's all working well for us. In saying that, I am cheering the nights she does sleep through :)

OCM - sorry you're having the dilemma with your little man's vaccinations. It would be such a hard decision when you have that family history. Hoping it all works out for you and bubs.

Anyway, hope you are all well and hugs again to those in need of one :) xx

parentingrocks

05-05-2009, 14:25

hi all.

hope all the little sick ones are on the mend.

I went down to the bonds factory outlet this morning and got some more 00 suits, they are roomy on Charli but I wasn't going to buy 000 ones cos she'll be out of them in no time. Got myslef some bonds maternity bras too for $16 which is cheap as chips compared to buying them from the shops.
We had a good couple of nights, she still wakes once for a feed but she is easier to settle now. I even just put her down for her afternoon nap and she was awake, I just left the room and she wriggled around for a bit then got herself off to sleep on her own which is nice. She has been there for about 2.5 hours with no complaints so the house is clean and dinner is prepared!! that doesn't happen very often!!

Thanks for all your feedback on your mothers group. I decided to change - I called the council and switched to one I know a few other ladies that go there. My first session is tomorrow so I hope its ok. I know mothers group isn't that big a deal I just figure if I take the time to go there I want it to be beneficial and teach me a few things.

Well I am getting my BIL & SIL to watch Charli later on so DP and I can go to a boxing class at the gym around the corner so I can try to shake some of the fat off my thighs!! haha. I hardly put on any weight while pregnant except the belly of course, but I have gained since breastfeeding (as someone else mentioned) I just find I am starving all the time, and I am chocolate obbsessed!! Can't get enough of it its terrible.

Well hope you all are well.
Sorry for the lack of personals I am keeping up with you all I just find it hard to remember what each person said to comment individually.:o
xxx

Lateralus

05-05-2009, 18:57

We got a call from the GP to go back to get Zoe's urine test results today and it had grown some bacteria in it indicating that she has a urinary tract infection. Apparently if a bub under 3 months has a UTI they have to be admitted to hospital for IV antibiotics and have special scans on their urinary tract and kidneys to check for malformations.

Because the urine sample that was taken was just from a little bag taped to Zoe's bits there was no way of knowing whether it was a true infection or whether the sample had been contaminated by something else in her nappy, so we were referred on to the hospital for a catheter to get a 'clean' urine sample. After much prodding and poking of poor Zoe they were unable to get the catheter in, so had to put a needle in through her belly into her bladder to get the urine sample.

The good news is she DOESN'T have a UTI, but it was such a bloody traumatic thing for all involved. The poor little mite screamed and screamed when they were trying to get the catheter in (I don't blame her - I had 3 during my labour due to urinary retention and I appreciate that they aren't exactly the most comfortable thing - & that's when you know what's happening & why it's being done...). Then when they stuck that needle in her little body, it was all I could do to stop myself from jumping up and dropping the doctor. I know they were just doing what had to be done, but it was like some primal instinct took over. I don't know how parents of really sick little bubs do it - watch their little bodies being violated like that. :(

Zoe seems ok tonight - we gave her some panadol and infants friend and she seems to be sleeping soundly. All I can pray is that she has already forgotten all about it.

BoyCrazy

05-05-2009, 19:05

:hugs: kate- how traumatic for you all! at least zoe is ok, and im sure she will have forgotten about it tomorrow.
my ds1 had a operation at 2 months old for a hernia in his groin, its so scary when they are in hospital and you feel so helpless!
:hugs: am here or on facebook if you need a chat :hugs:

quitecontrary

05-05-2009, 21:14

Oh Kate what an awful thing to have to watch - no wonder you felt the way you did. I am really glad Zoe doesn't have an infection. Even now with Genevieve I know it would be really hard to get a clean sample of urine.
Toby is being a dag tonight and just wants to complain when he is meant to be going to sleep. He's been feeding so much its scary. Hopefully he'll settle properly soon and I won't hear from him again til the early hours of the morning!

parentingrocks

06-05-2009, 07:37

oh kate you poor thing.:hugs:.. and poor little zoe. I'm sure she will have forgotten the whole experience now. I can't imagine how hard that would have been to watch, you are a string lady.:hugs:

well I'm only just stopping in for a second, Charli is having a nap in her cot so I might as well make the most of the quite time and have a shower.

We have a nice day planned - quick shop at knox to visit pumpkin patch, new mothers group first session, and then a tupperware party tonight. :fingerscrossed: she lasts the day going to all these places. She's really hating the car seat at the moment. It used to be my saviour and she'd sleep in in immediately but not anymore. Its like she's bored or something she just grizzles and cries as soon as she's in it. At least I don't have far to drive for all these things I have to do today, hopefully she'll be alright.
Hope you all have a good day:goodvibes:

JLeesmum

06-05-2009, 07:52

poor kate nad zoe, i feel so sorry for u both, Jy had his 8 week needles on mon, i thought that was bad enough! he screamed, then i was crying..:crying: i felt like such a wuss..............and then...yesterday, my BIL whom i DO NOT like (he drinks far too much) happened to catch a lift with us and had a 5 weeks old kelpie with him...(i didnt like the idea of it in the car in the first place because it isnt vaxxed..i dont know if im over reacting or not) we stopped cos the car was leaking water, i lifted the bonnet to have a look and he put the dog on the back seat and told it to sit (thhis is a 5 weeks old pup) it took me a few seconds to realise what he did. i looked over and the dog was ontop of jyden licking him, so i dropped the bonnet and ran too him, grabbed the dog and threw it at BIL told him hes a f**k head and that was a stupid thing too do. ( infront of everyone, in town) then i find out that the dog has worms...:banghead::hissy::geek: im stressing out, i changed his clothes and washed him straight away....im scared hes gonna get them now :hissy:

Seacretsquirrel

06-05-2009, 10:45

My goodness Kate how awful for you. On the up side at least it wasn't a UTI. - I remember crying my eyes out when DD had to have a canula put in her hand at 18 days old (she had an abcess in her elbow which they ended up draining under general anesthetic (sp) but it took 4 nights in hospital to get to that which was a bit traumatic not to mention uncomfortable).
Smashlee- I wouldn't stress to much about the worms - I am pretty sure it is a doggy different to human thing and also you need to touch the poo not just have him beeing licked (don't quote me I could be wrong) I know they don't give worm tablets (liquid) to little ones so perhaps ask at the chemist they might know what is a good course of action - but the wahs and change of clothes should have hopefully done the trick.

We are still all a bit crook here ATM Z still has a nasty chesty cough (won't take couch medicine but they don't really reccomend it anyway apparently) I still have a sore throat but am feeling a bit chirpier (sp again) but R has a yuck waxy ear not sure if I should be worried but I can't get into the Drs till tonight at the walk in clinic which could mean sitting in the surgery for a couple of hours with 2 not 100% kids which I don't really want to do - R is getting his needles tomorrow so I am about to ring them and find out if it is a Dr who does the needles and should I be worried about the ear thing. - any ideas I know I don't want to muck around with his ears but he is still feeding and pretty normal behaviour wise - did feed every 2 hours last night but that could be a growth spurt too ??? argh I hate having DH away all the time - they sail tomorrow and he is duty today grrrr.:crying:
Sorry about the whinge I will get on here one day with all happy news and questions:o

floodprincess

06-05-2009, 12:16

:hugs: to everyone experiencing challenges....extra :hugs: to Kate - while it must have been heartbreaking to watch it happen, in hindsight you know it was for the best. Zoe won't hold it against you, you are the only person that will do that!

Solsen....we had the same problem with Monique a couple of months back - it was horrible (my car is my escape). I discovered that it was the head support, inner lining thing that was bugging her (through trial and error)...I'm not sure if it was making her feel claustrophobic or just too darn hot and irritated, but the minute I took it out we were back to almost instant dozing in the car (might be worth checking out if you have one of those for Charli).

AFM not much to report, had an up/down sleep day far with Monique (i think that's because I've been trying to put her in the port-a-cot when she really wants her bed) but we'll see how it pans out.

Hope you are all looking forward to Mother's Day...I've seen a few excited messages here. We don't have much planned, I'll be helping Mum take our alpacas down to their agistment (hopefully) and just trying to catch up with DH.

Our exicting news for this week though is that it's our 10yr wedding anniversary on Friday night.....so far nothing special planned (holy crud - I've got to get him a gift) but I'm hoping he'll surprise me with something!!

Take care all, I'll be floating around the next few days ;)

A'sMummy

07-05-2009, 09:23

:hugs: Kate, I can't imagine how traumatic that would have been for you and Zoe!! But I think Zoe would have forgotton about it by now and there is no need to worry. You are doing an absolutely brilliant job, I admire you xoxo

Smashlee- Oh I would be completely peeved off if someone let a dog lick my babies face too. On the weekend I was at the Inlaws and was breastfeeding Anya, and they let their puppy inside and it jumped up on the couch and started jumping over me and Anya while I was in the middle of feeding her! They just stood there and watched the whole thing! I had to de-attach Anya and get the silly thing off of us, but by this stage Anya was crying anyway because it had scratched her on the back of her head. :banghead:

Well I have a full cloth bum baby now :goodvibes: so excited! and it's not much more work than sposies so far so I am wrapt!
Anya also slept from 8pm-8.30am last night too :smiliedance: Mind you, I spent the entire night awake, checking on her, checking to make sure the baby monitor was working and waiting for her to wake up damn! Hopefully she will do it again tonight :fingerscrossed:

parentingrocks

07-05-2009, 10:49

wow cc you're a legend how did she sleep that long?????? thats awesome!!

smashlee can't believe that story about the dog I would have been fuming!! Well I'm sure from what some of the others said on here that your little one can't get worms from that. But still very annoying that it happened.

FP - thanks for advice about checking the car seat, I felt around it and it seems comfy enough I think she is at the stage now where if she is awake she is just flat out bored in the car seat, or if she is tired she just gets angry and won't fall asleep on her own.. its very frustrating but I am going to keep taking her out and about so she gets over it and gets used to being in the car... I will just ignore the grizzles and cries until she realises its not that bad!! God I'm a harsh mum aren't I!!

Well today I am off to have kunch and check out a baby clothing shop with one of the mothers group mums. Shoudl be a nice day.

Speak to you all soon

xxx

Seacretsquirrel

07-05-2009, 12:44

Hey everyone!

Well done CC on the whole night sleep! you will get used to it pretty fast and then you'll get whole nights sleep too! :smiliedance: also well done on teh cloth bumthing too!

Solsen -With the carseat it might be time for a wee toy or mirror to put near her in the car (hang it off the handle up near the door (if she is on the side) or if she is in the middle you can get mirrors and water filled things with floaty bits inside them to hang on the back of the seat (I am guilty of hanging small things off the carseat teather strap but it might be a bad idea I am sure I will be roused at if it is naughty:D)

AFM - we finally got in to get R's immunisations today - yuck 3 needles and the oral rotavirus one poor wee bugger add to that the ear drops and antibiotics he has to have for is pussy ear - I managed to get tehm to squeeze me in yesterday and thank goodness I did he has and ear infection (I don't think the DR beileved me when I said he had not been showing any symptoms - no temp or grizzling or anything just the ear discharge and the night before he was up every 2 hours for a feed)
anyway Z is still sleeping which is great so she will hopefully be chirpy this afternoon and we can play with the mr potato head playdough thing I got! I sold my highchair last night so I am $50 closer to my ergo/kinderkot not sure which yet I am going to see if i can borry a GF's ergo for a day to see if R likes it before I shell out the big bucks!
Anyway off to get some lunch before Z wakes up and R wants another feed.

natski

07-05-2009, 12:49

Oh Kate, poor little you and Zoe! Big hugs to you both, that must have been awful for you. I totally understand and know what you went through. I lost count of the many times Olivia was poked and prodded while she was in hospital and you either breakdown into a messy heap or come out strong and tough. I remember bawling my eyes out in a complete mess many times. It's so awful for them, but I think it's really worse for you as a mum to watch them go through that pain. So glad it's not a UTI though and hope she's on the mend soon.

Go Solsen! You sound like you're becoming a dab-hand at the shopping thing! yay! Good on you! As for me, I am HATING the shops at the moment...I just find it way too difficult with the two, even though they're pretty good at it. I think I just get overtired and the fact that I've put on weight makes me get all fussy about clothes right now. As for the mothers group, I had a great one and have made some beautiful friends from it (as well as James too), so if you can get a good one that you really enjoy, that's a big bonus.

SS - hoping you and the kids are feeling better soon! I don't know how you do it when you're feeling low and hubby is not around...you're a star!

Smashlee - Oh God! I would have slapped him! What an idiot (sorry)....try not to stress about the worms though. But if you're worried, yeah go see a chemist for some advice. I'm not sure where you are, but I know the kids hospital at Westmead has a help line (I actually think it's now gone nationwide), so maybe you could ring them - they would give you good advice that might ease your worries. I've phoned many times and been reassured without having to go see a doctor.

Anyway, going to go tidy the house and put some washing on the line...ah, domestic bliss!!!

Seacretsquirrel

08-05-2009, 15:26

Very quiet in here today not a peep since yesterday!!!

So this will actually be short sweet and positive for a change!!!!

We are all on the mend!!!!! R was only up at 10-30 and 3-30 last night and I didn't have to get up to Z at all!!!! :smiliedance: and especially :sleeping: for me!!!

I almost feel human again!

R is on antibiotics and ear drops so hopefully he will feel better soon, we had his needles yesterday too so he has been a very sleepy wee boy for the last 24 odd hours but he is relatively chipper when he is awake so thats good.
I have bids on an Ergo and a kinderkot on ebay (max bid of $80 each so fingers crossed) I am hopeful with the ergo cause there seems to be a whole stack of them on ebay today - only cranberry but I really don't care about the colour, and there are even a few kinderkots too and hopefully noone else wants a green one:fingerscrossed:

anyway I am off to check my ebay bids again :D will pop in later to se if anyone else has anything to say hope you are all doing great!

quitecontrary

08-05-2009, 21:08

SS - glad to hear you are all on the mend, and you managed a pretty good nights sleep last night!
It seems too many of us are tending Farmtown farms on stalkerbook at the moment!! Ah, the virtual world, so much quieter than the real one.
We are all fine. Had more bad news from England last night, Dh's brother-in-law has been diagnosed with cancer, I don't know how my s-i-l is coping with all the cr@p that's gone down this year. Just too bloody awful. He is having more tests very soon to see the extent, fingers crossed it is just in the one place.
Anyway, thank goodness we are indeed all fine here - I keep touching wood. We've had the hat trick now of awfulness - it will be all good news from here on in.
We're having afternoon tea here with my parents for Mothers Day on Sunday. I need to do the sibling ring around to see if there are any other takers. I think my big sis is avoiding/ignoring me this week, I haven't heard nor seen her at all, goodness knows if I've done anything to annoy her.

Yay for the weekend! Hope you've all got lovely ones planned!

sweetseven

08-05-2009, 22:14

*feeling like an interloper since I'm new here, but I guess I fit in this category*

DD7 is 13 weeks today, and we took her for her first immunisations. I've been of the opinion it was best to delay until 2yrs, but with the current outbreak of whooping cough bowed to the popular consesus and opted to have her done now.

Unfortunately we had to wait over half an hour, and I spent the whole time wanting to race out and skip the whole thing, constantly doubting whether or not I was doing the right thing.

In the afternoon, DD1 (15yr) hands me a note that there has been a confirmed case of whooping cough in the high school, so I'm trying to take that as a sign that I've done the right thing.

sweetseven

08-05-2009, 22:41

And I've recently discovered MCNs myself, and have been accused of being carried away with them.

I never liked disposables, and used flats for all my children, reluctantly resorting to disposables for overnight use after 6months because flats just didn't absorb enough.

I even invented a compromise, I would use flats as a booster inside the disposable, and reuse the disposable for up to three nights.

However, within the last month I discovered MCNs, so started with a purchase of two peapods (one small for bub and one large for 2�yr). After that I've bought six happy haute and six hemp baby beehinds.

I'm finding I prefer the baby behinds for daytime use. And, with my toddler using the peapod at night, I boost it with either a microfibre absorber (from the happy haute) or a cloth terry flat (if all the microfibres have been used during the day).

I'm finding I don't quite have enough nappies at present however, so am looking on ebay for the next brand to try. (I have this strange desire to buy one of each to try them all out and find out which I prefer. However, since this is my last baby, that really doesn't seem a wise option.) In the meantime, the terry flats continue to be used to pad them out.

floodprincess

08-05-2009, 22:53

Evening Girls....late night post before I go to bed - forgive if I ramble!

Hope everyone is feeling better! Happy Mother's Day for Sunday to everyone, and especially those celebrating it for the first time (it's very special).

Well, we're back from dinner, I barely survived....DH thought it would be nice for our anniversary to go out for a while; well....it worked ok until I needed to feed DD2 and discovered that the restaurant chairs were just that little too tall for me to do it properly (I'm only a short ***) so I had to sit in the car.

To top it off DD2 was very unsettled and DD1 loaded herself up on sugary drinks.....I got cold food and dessert tasted like crap so unfortunately, things got the better of me and I ended up in tears at the table - poor DH felt like crud.....wasn't his fault though.

But other than that we had a pretty good day (doing not much but sitting on the couch watching tv enjoying each others company - romantic huh?)

So, someone, please explain to me this phenomenon that is "MCN"....I've heard everyone raving about them, and I've got a fair idea what it's all about, but cloth nappies in DD1's day were just a square white piece of terry towelling.........I've been thinking maybe these new things might be worth a try?? Can someone point me in a good direction?? lol...I feel like such a new mum over this :)

Anyways, I'm off to tell DD1 to turn the tv down, check on DD2 and pile into bed to crash....well not quite, DH needs some cheering up after tonight's poor rounding at dinner....

Take care and have a lovely weekend.....we pick up our alpacas this weekend!!!

sweetseven

08-05-2009, 23:19

MCN stands for modern cloth nappies.

There are three basic types.
Fitted: These are made of an absorbant material but do not have a waterproof coating, so a waterproof PUL or woolen cover is recomended for use with them.
AOI: These are like fitteds, but have a waterproof lining built in. The downside is that they take longer to dry.
Pockets: These consist of a waterproof outer, and a staydry material inner with a pocket in between. You insert an absorber into the pocket to soak up the moisture. These are often the quickest to dry.

For nighttime or extended use, a booster is recommended, either inserted into the pocket of the pocket nappy, or placed inside a fitted or AIO one.

Also, they typically do up either with velcro or press studs. The velcro is supposed to be quicker and easier but is prone to older babies undoing it themselves. Personally, I've opted for varieties with studs.

The way I started, was I looked at various brands online. And whilst looking at the peapods website, I noticed it had a list of stockists. Wanting to see them before buying, I looked up the list for a local store, and went to look. I decided to buy one small (for bub) and one large (for toddler) to try them out, and was happy with the result, though I've come to the conclusion that I prefer different brands.

quitecontrary

09-05-2009, 06:45

Welcome tiera3! Good to see a chatty new person here!!
Oh, nappies! I was feeling very guilty the other day buying two lots of disposables. DD was in cloth almost exclusively for her first year and a bit, but although they are ready to go I haven't gotten around to it yet with Toby. Soon I think. We use terry flats, and I've never had an issue with them, and they are extremely economical! So, the thing is to get dd toilet trained (hahahaha) and the lad back into cloth.
Breakfast is being served!
Back later I'm sure!

Lateralus

09-05-2009, 07:07

welcome tiera3.. always great to see a new 'face' in here! Congratulations on DD7 (7!! - you'll be a wealth of mummy knowledge for all us newbies!). Sorry you had such a hard time with your decision to vax... It's a bit of a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' situation isn't it!

FP oh love, sorry your much anticipated dinner didn't go as well as imagined :hugs:

QC :hugs::hugs::hugs: Sorry to hear more bad news from your camp... I hope they get to the bottom of your B.I.L.s illness quickly & that they treat it quickly and painlessly!

AFM - we have had a reasonably good couple of days with Zoe after a few unsettled weeks. She slept fairly well last night and REALLY well the night before, so DH & I are feeling a bit refreshed! I am trying to transition Z into the cot from the bassinet, but so far she doesn't want a bar of it! Guess I'll just keep persevering and see how we go. She still has a bit of room in her bassinet, so there is not tearing rush...

I have started to try to wean myself off the motilium for my milk supply. Keep fingers and toes crossed that my body can maintain the supply without the drugs. I have reduced from 9 to 8 a day & already my boobs don't feel as full but Z seems to be feeding quite happily, so that is the main thing.

Hope everyone has a great Mothers Day tomorrow. DH is away tonight & doesn't get home 'till tomorrow afternoon, so SS I am with you, getting myself breakfast in bed :laughing:

Seacretsquirrel

09-05-2009, 08:09

QC- :laughing: so true about the Farming - I am a guilty farmer too - infact I am farming now!:o I was contemplating the MCN too but as DS will be our last DH wasn't sure about the expense (I know it is only the initial outlay) I think after hearing all the good things I might try a couple for when we are at home and see how we go I am going to get a little pair of boardies with the MCN in them from an online shop I found - good thing about Darwin you can pretty much swim all year round but it is rather hard to find swimmers in winter! esp little ones.
Hope the run of yuckyness is over for you guys too they say things happen in 3's so on that front you should be right. - why is it these horrible times happen waves couldn't the cosmos dish misery out in singles so you have a chance to get some more good stuff in!

FP - I too am sorry your dinner out wasn't great, there is always next time although the cheering up factor has its perks:D

Welcome Tiera3 - curiosity has gotten the better of me do you have just the 7 girls or is there a boy or 2 in the mix as well (yes I am nosey:o) I struggle with my 2 I don't know how you girls with larger families do it my hat goes off to you!

AFM -R slept from 7.30pm-4am (a hole 8 1/2 hours then till 1/4 to 8 yippeee for R!!!!!!! and me:smiliedance: I feel much more human today - now if I ca get miss Z to keep her feet to herself I will be happier.

Okay now apparently we NEED to GO to the shops!!! - its okay I need to look at a new vacuum anyway so she will get her way on that one :laughing: I am thinking a petvax - I like the idea of being able to suck up wet spills with it too - unless anyone has any other ideas.. I liked my Dyson for carpets but it was never very good on the tiles esp with the "hard floor head" I found the turbo one better even though it is not reccommended for hard floors.

anyway better go get ready to go so we can come home and get naps in later!!!
Have a good day all!

sweetseven

09-05-2009, 13:06

Thanks for the welcome all, my apologies for being overly verbose or if you think I type too much; what else is there to do whilst feeding a baby (okay, this message took three feeds to type out, so it is not that good an excuse).

SS Yes all daughters. #7 was the only time I thought it might be a boy (had four months of morning sickness compared to only a couple of days with the others, and they suggest major differences in the pregnancy often herald a different gender) however she turned out to be a girl also, and she is my last, so no potential boys in the future either. (And no I don't regret the lack of boys at all. I'm more of the feeling that a boy would seem so strange that I wouldn't know what to do with him.)

KJ As for the wealth of mummy knowledge, experience also raises a lot of questions. I could list a difficulty for each of my girls. When browsing this site, I resisted the urge to post in nearly every section, because with so many darlings, everything seems appropriate to at least one of them.

Vaccination is such a difficult choice. There is so much information out there, but it all seems exremely biassed one way or the other. I think your "damned if you do, damned if you dont" comment sums it up perfectly. And I've always been a worrier; I'm always second guessing myself both before and after doing something as to whether I've done the right thing or not. (This is one aspect of my personality I'm trying to improve upon.)

QC MCNs, which I've only recently discovered and seem to have become partially obsessed with, can be considered for a variety of reasons. If considering them for cost reasons, comparing against disposables, I see it as follows:
* Approx $25 MCN vs approx $0.35 per disposable. If you use the MCN instead of a disposable once a day for three months, or every other day for five months, then it has paid for itself.
* For an older child, where pullups are approx $1 each, you are looking at it paying for itself in one or two months depending on whether you are using it every day, or every other day.

Comparing them to using terry flats is a convenience rather than cost saving comparison. For me, it means I'm not the only one who can change her nappy. Now her father and sisters can easily change her nappy also. And I'm not obliged to revert to disposables (which I've always disliked) when someone else (eg grandparents) are doing me a favour babysitting.

For myself, my transition from terry flats to MCNs began as a hybrid. I started with one that I used as a cover and would use my existing terry flats as boosters for. I now have 12 and still use the terry flats as boosters when I run out.

Suddenly outlaying hundreds on a full set of MCNs seems daunting when unsure as to whether or not they'll be beneficial for you. However, spending around $25 to experiment with one seems like a better option to me. There is no rule that they have to be used exclusively or not at all. So substituting in one as a trial seems like the logical idea to me. Prices do vary, from <$10 each for chinese ones bought in bulk, to >$40 for custom designer ones, but $25 seems to be a reasonable average price.

Other cloth vs disposable considerations are health (less nappy rash) and the environment (landfill). I'm concerned that I already sound like I'm preaching, so I'll stop here.

KJ Good luck with your endeavours regarding the cot. I had the opposite problem. All my bubs took obejection to the basinet during the first 1-3 weeks and had to move to the cot sooner than I intended.

FP Alpacas sound great. I hope they work out well for you.

Lateralus

09-05-2009, 13:17

Oh my goodness - who has taken my daughter and replaced her with a sleeping machine????

She slept well overnight - now today she's slept 7:30am - 10:30am, 11:30am-1:15pm, 1:45 'till now... I have checked her temperature and she's not warm - I don't think she's sick... She just wakes, feeds, has a nappy change, plays for 15 minutes quite happily and then gives me definite "I'm tired" signs. Do they sleep this much when they are having or have just had a growth spurt? As silly as it sounds, but I kinda miss her when she's sleeping so much :o We are supposed to be watching some friends play netball in 15 minutes, but she's sound asleep - Don't want to wake her as she obviously needs it for whatever reason. Oh well, they'll have to play on without their cheer squad I think.

zephani

09-05-2009, 13:19

Afternoon Ladies,

I can't believe it's been nearly a week since my last update :eek: I've been reading everyone's updates but my head has been too mushed to write anything coherent.

Thank you everyone for the well wishes:hugs: We are all pretty much back to 100% here.

Katherine's eye is better and appart from the odd cough and sneeze she is over her illnesses. We were worried about her as she wasn't drinking her normal amount of formula and what she did drink she was throwing up. But now she is drinking again and back to sleeping 8hrs and 4hrs every night. :fingerscrossed: she doesn't get sick like that for a long time.

DH ended up on medication for sinusitus. But he is nearly 100% now too.

Today was my first day back at Curves since my c-section and I LOVED it :smiliedance: It was like I hadn't been away! Now I just have to stay motivated to go at least three times a week.

Yay for all the people who are getting full nights sleeps. Hope your dreams are sweet :cloud9:

I hope all with sick bubbas are now better!

FP I love the idea of alpacas! When I was a little girl I always dreamed of having a pushme pullyou!

I'm sorry your dinner didn't work out so well.

Kate I'm sorry you and Zoe went through so much. It would be so hard to watch your daughter go through that. I'm glad that she doesn't have an infection and I hope she has forgotten about the ordeal.

QC I'm sorry to head about your BIL. I hope you hear some good news soon. You definitely deserve it! I also hope you and your sister get to talk soon.

Tiera3 Welcome! My best friend has seven kids as well. I'm not sure how you do it! But I looking forward to hearing all your insights!

I think that brings me up to date. Katherine is getting Christened tomorrow so my Mum and sister and DH's Best Man are staying with us tonight. After the Christening we are having a BBQ lunch at our place for 13 adults and 8 children (including my best friend's 7).

It's probably a wierd way to spend my first Mother's Day but I couldn't think of a better way :yes: Christening my beautiful daughter and spending the day with my family and friends.

I hope you all have a great Mother's Day tomorrow.

natski

09-05-2009, 15:51

Hi girls,

Welcome Tiera, Happy Anniversary FP, sorry your dinner turn out as good as you had hoped, and big hugs QC, hoping your BIL will get through this horrible time and as well as you and your little family.

Yay Kate for a happy little bubba! Maybe it is a growth spurt? My mum always says they grow when they sleep?!?!

As for us, we've had a busy 2 days out and about and I'm just exhausted and my house is untidy again and I just feel all unorganised. I need to have a spotless house to feel like I can do things, otherwise it all just turns to mush....silly, I know.

Feeling a little down about mothers day - hubby is working which we're both really peeved about. It's always the way for him in retail and you'd think I would be used to it by now, but it does still get to me a little bit. Both our mums are 'falling apart' a bit, MIL with a very bad back and my mum with bad hips so we're both a little worried about them. But I'll still have a lovely day with the kidlets and we're having breakfast with my family at my sisters who is returning from New York tomorrow morning so that should be nice. Then dinner at the in-laws.

Is anyone else very clucky???? I did this when DS was this age too and was desperate to have another one. We're probably not going to have another one, but there's still a 'maybe' out there. I personally feel like I haven't 'finished' yet and will be complete with one more. I think I feel like I need to do it again quickly before I feel like I'm getting too old. Also, this time last year we were starting to 'try', so I also think I'm being nostalgic with that...does that sound just silly!

Anyway, I'm off to get some more chores in so I can feel slightly organised.

Big hugs to you all for mothers day and hope you all get spoilt and have a lovely, lovely day. As FP said, it is such a special day for you when it's your first time.

xx

Oh, good luck Zeph for the Christening - reminds me to get my act together, I'm hopeless!!

quitecontrary

09-05-2009, 19:48

Nat I hear you with the cluckiness factor - I keep looking at Toby and wondering if/when there'll be another! I am even older than you, so time is of the essence here if we want one "a la naturale", and I'd hate to leave it so long that fertility did really become an issue. My family I think are dead against it, but its not them who would be having another. And to give them all the sh@#$ I think I'd get a nanny in in the afternoons at least for a few months, especially if dh becomes even more addicted to work. Ah, enough on that!
Kate I'm pleased to hear that Sleep is the New Black for Zoe!
FP - sorry to hear the anniversary meal wasn't as good as it could've been. When you're feeling up to it you'll just have to have another night out, perhaps without your daughters!
We have had a lovely day - went and did a spot of shopping this morning, then this afternoon we went down to a park/beach on the bay and Genevieve had a grand old time.
Tomorrow my parents are coming over in the afternoon, and I'm not sure about anyone else. At least I know I'll have seen my Mum on the day.
Thank you all for your kind thoughts - I am so hopeful for my brother-in-law. Things can only get better!!

Seacretsquirrel

09-05-2009, 20:58

Awwww FP your new babies are sooo cute.

Nothing else to add for me kids are in bed and I am about to join them so night night!

readytogo

09-05-2009, 21:57

KJ- DD does the same now over the last week which is fine except I keep putting off going to bed as I think she's going to wake for a feed in half an hour. Ends up being more like 4hrs and before I realise its 3am!!:eek:

I go back to work this Fri and will have DD with a family day carer for the first time, although I've had her babysat before I'm nervous this time and think I have over packed her for it! I even went a got another battery swinger similar to her home one! Even went as far as typing out instructions for her feeds and nappies, buying separate daycare feed bottles and yet another nappy bag (#3).

Hmmm am I slightly neurotic.........:rolleyes:

sweetseven

09-05-2009, 22:05

Lazy tonight, had KFC for dinner using mothers day as the excuse. Bub went to sleep nice and early again (approx 8pm; she's been going to bed early for over a week now, a nice change from the first month when she stayed up all night). However I find I need to express in the middle of the night, else I'll wake in a puddle in the morning.

Younger ones are in bed. Toddler is in a disposable tonight, and there is only one more in her cupboard. So I'm going to have to be careful to keep a cloth nappy aside to ensure she has one every night soon. Tonight, we're watching DVDs with the older ones. We've just watched GhostRider, and their currently picking a second one to watch.

Nat Shh, dont mention an untidy house. There's so much that needs doing here, and I'm taking a break tonight.
Sorry, not clucky either. However I'm expecting it to hit me in a year or two, or five, that I'm not having any more. I have gaps of 2-3 years between my girls, and thus it is too early for me to be thinking of such things now. At the moment I'm being amazed by how much I've forgotten about a new bub, starting with how small they really are. Seven is the limit however; no more for me.

The idea of mothers day is getting me down a little because my mother has degenerated due to dementia. Visiting her is rather difficult also, because the older ones dont want to see her and spoil their memories of how she used to be.

Sorry to put a downer on things. I'll go see what movie they've selected and work on a more positive outlook in the morning. We've all got beautiful babies to lift our spirits.

janiceg

10-05-2009, 07:02

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY GIRLS!!!
hope you all have a wonderful day

Seacretsquirrel

10-05-2009, 07:42

:sunshine:Happy Mothers Day to all you ladies from Sunny Darwin.:sunshine:

RTG - Poor you having to brave leaving your beautiful bub but at least with family daycare it is a more homely environment for her!!

T3 Hope you enjoyed your night off - I am sure with 7 girls you don't get that too often! My hat goes off to you I don't know how you cope. Hope you have a good visit with your mum I understand the older ones not wanting to spoil their memories of their Grandma.

AFM -I now have a clean house thanks to a borrowed vacuum yippeee no more gritty floors for about 5 mins but now I have to face my mountain of folding!!!
ANyway better go promised to take chook to the park so I better go plus R is getting a bit cross on his mat (he has done about 2 360 degree turns and has had enough.:hissy:
Have a lovely day hope you get the spoiling you deserve
:cloud9::cloud9:

JLeesmum

10-05-2009, 11:01

good morning mummies!
hmm where to start..
i havnt posted in a few days, ive been busy...had mum and my sister over yesterday, did the mothers day thing with her, so i could celebrate it at home today ...seeings its my first one :thumbsup: had a great day, jyden was so happy, full of smiles all day with no grizzles n he was awake for 10 hours!....and to my shock DP picked me flowers (from my garden of course:o)...for the first time in 6 years!..first time ever! and bought me chocolates..AND a card, im very impressed! hes never done anything like that!
Jyden slept 8pm-3am then 3.30-7.30 and hes asleep again...hes such a great sleeper! :fingerscrossed: (untill about 11am then he stays awake)
hmm.. i thkn im getting clucky, ive always wanted a big family, and we have such a good baby, and i had a good labour but im a bit nervous about a second one..(we would be pretty lucky to get 2 good sleepers!) i dont cope well with no sleep, but atleast i have a supportive DP (sometimes...you all know how they are..)..
T3-welcome:wave:! wow 7 kids..i want that many! but im nervous about having a second!
and i think i am going to buy 1 MCN and see how they go... what type should i buy and what do i need with it??.. i have no idea how they work
SS- i bought a vaccuum last week that im in love with, ive been using it twice a day! its a purple Vax, that stands upright with a dustbuster in the middle and the bottom has a sweeper that picks up pet hair, glass and nails!..its 12V..not real powerful, but works well! i have "floating' floorboards and matts, it works wonders and its CORDLESS! $129 from retravison
oh, and DP said i can have the day "off " today:laughing: whatever i dont do today i have to do tommorrow...it doesnt do itself... if only...
hmm im gettting real clucky, i want a girl aswell, would anybody advise against having one so soon???? id imagine a newborn and a 13 month old would be harder than a newborn and 2-3 yr old...any opinions?:ecomcity:
oh, and as for farmtown....i was hooked on it, spents hours filling my farm up with potatoes, then i forgotand they all died... im so OVER it

Lateralus

10-05-2009, 15:02

Hi all - hope everyone had a lovely mothers day!! It was all pretty quiet in our camp - DH was away and my Mum is down in Sydney. So Zoe & I just hung out - DH is home this evening so we'll head out for dinner and I have decided he can make me breakfast in bed tomorrow morning - I even went out and bought all the makings for a pancake extravaganza so he'll have no excuse! I did get spoilt with a lovely card from Zoe & one from DH plus some beautiful gifts & a voucher for some new sunnies (I managed to drop & break mine last week). :sunshine:

Zoe seems to be more settled the last few days. Dare I say it, she's sleeping better over night and having fewer but longer sleeps during the day & seems to be a much happier baby for it. Her feeding habits even seem to have changed - she's having fewer but longer feeds... I think now she's feeding for longer she's filling up on that hind milk which helps her sleep and stay settled for longer?!

RTG good luck with the return to work - how many days a week will you be working?

megaminz

10-05-2009, 16:41

hope everyone is having a better mothers day than me

started off me a bit miserable as dh stayed in bed til 11

quite obviously never even got me a card for mothers day or even wished me happy mothers day.

he went to do the dishes in the kitchen which is amazing in itself then yelled at me cause I useed more than one coffee cup and dont keep rinsing the same one out. and how he was gonna throw out the pots and bake ware as he didnt want to wash them. he doesnt use them apparently. but NO fwit you eat the proceeds of them. blah blah big rant on how we shouldnt have this much mess in the kitchen.

So I have been a bit teary most of the day. I told him that I have been telling him for months I am not coping and need help. Didnt go into the fact that sometimes I used another cup or dish because in the 5 seconds I get between milan being happy and screaming its all i can do to grab a clean one and make myself breakfast or a cup of tea.

so angry and hurt right now. told him i think we should consider separating as he is obviously not happy and its not working and that I have been telling him for ages that I am not coping but he obviously doesnt care

I am aware our house is a mess but I havbe struggled with Milan during the day and by nighttime I am exhausted and he could help me out by even taking him for an hour or so on his days off and I might get through some housework or GODFORBID he actually does some himself. And he better never go through the whole single income argument with me cause even with time off work I will STILL earn more this financial year than him!!!!

sorry for the rant needed to get it off my chest.

quitecontrary

10-05-2009, 19:21

Oh MM I hope you are feeling a bit better now. Its awful when you feel like that, wish I was in Brissy so I could come over and sweep you out of the house for a breather.
Tiera I understand the dementia factor with my f-i-l - with us there is the added dilemma of him living in England, and now being a widower. I hope your girls spoilt you!
Sound like most of you have had easy peaceful days celebrating in your own ways the Mother Factor.
Dh made breakfast (he always does actually), we had a bit more gourmet than usual though - steamed eggs in ramekins with sorrel and smoked salmon, and lots of toast and coffee. We all went to a new garden centre and had an early lunch and bought some new plants etc. Toby slept in the carrier and G got to jump in puddles so it was a win-win situation! Afternoon sleeps for everyone then Dh cooked a cake and my parents, youngest niece, little sister and brother all came over for afternoon tea - pretty much an ideal sunday. I got spoilt by dh, jewellry and pyjamas - even a couple of surprises!!
Both the kidlets are in bed and we are contemplating cheese on toast for dinner, if we had a tin of tomato soup I would know we are really turning into Sunday Night Parents!
Hugs to all of you!

Seacretsquirrel

10-05-2009, 20:15

MM you poor thing I agree with the others he ad no right to go off at you Milan is the most important thing and the housework will be there tomorrow or the next day.

I am also guilty of having a messy house due to the lovely little munchkins I have however been trying to make sure the kitchen is clean and most of the stuff is picked up before I go to bed so at least I start the day off clean and tidy and so far it seems to be working - now all I have to do is get in the habbit of folding my washing as I take it off the line. Oh and DH bought me a dishwasher so I had no excuse for dirty dishes (and so he didn't have to wash up cause he hates it)
I had an okay day no breakfast in bed for me I had weetbix on the run! :chef: but went to a friends for tea which was lovely and got to speak to DH which was more lovely!!! and whats more I get to plan our very first family holiday - one that is all about the 4 of us and not going to brisbane and rushing around trying to please everyone else!!!!!! hmmmm where to go?? anyway off to bed so night night and hope you all had a lovely day and for those who had crappy mothers days :hugs: and I hope your next one is better!

gizmoduckus

10-05-2009, 20:37

:hugs: MM, I am so sorry that you had such a bad first mother's day. That was really unfair of your DH to treat you like that on such a special day. Don't you dare worry about the condition of the house. The most important thing is that Milan is well cared for and I just know that you are doing a great job. HAPPY MOTHERS DAY! You should be so proud of bringing up such a beautiful little boy.

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY to everyone else. I hope you all had a great day.

I had a great day. I got lots of presents and a beautiful card that DS1 made. L also had a great day and was extremely settled for once. We went for lunch at my MIL's and then went out to dinner with my mum. Now that I am home I am so exhausted. I am just hoping that the boys fall asleep soon so that I can hop into bed myself.

natski

10-05-2009, 20:47

Oh MM...you poor love. I'm sorry you've had such a bad day, you don't deserve that from your DH. Happy Mothers Day to you, and I know you are a wonderful mum and doing all the right things for little Milan. The housework doesn't matter and it certainly doesn't make you a better mother if it's tidy all the time. Milan is the most important thing, not the cups and saucers in the sink. Big hugs to you...hope your DH makes it up to you in many, many, many ways. :hugs:

Hope everyone else had a lovely day.

I got some very sexy pj's, but I'm wondering who's going to wear them, because I just don't feel too sexy right now to be wearing them!!! haha!

readytogo

10-05-2009, 21:14

Dont worry MM i didnt get anything either :(

I did housework all day although I did meet CC and little Anya, she's a cutie!! I was so thrilled doing housework I left my moccies and very old trackies on to meet them! I felt very boganish for the day:o

Seacretsquirrel

11-05-2009, 07:02

Natski - I am sure you will find the inclination t enjoy those sexy jammies soon!!! - just need the extra sleep me thinks :laughing:
RTG - sorry you got no pressies for MD either - there seems to be a few slack DH's out there hmmmm perhaps fathers day should go unnoticed too???
Gizmo glad you had a great day!
I got an email from DH yesterday - he was very sweet saying I was a great mummy and stuff and that the kids told him that he had to take them shopping when he got back and appologising for not doing it on the one day he was home last week so I get pressies later :yelclap: now miss Z what I want is.....
I have (nearly) joined the ergo ranks I won the ebay auction and got my new cranberry ergo for $111-00 posted! so it is all paid for and I am looking forward to getting it in a few days!!! now come on kinderkot!!!! stay at $51 then I'll have got both for the price of one...

Have a good day ladies!:hugs:

BoyCrazy

11-05-2009, 07:22

Happy mothers day to everyone for yesterday!!

MM- hope you still have my number, if you want a break let me know we could do some retail therapy & a cuppa with the little ones??

SS- great deal on the ergo! a fantastic price! i want one too! lol

I got a card, some flowers and a cd for mothers day from my boys (well i bought the cd with dps money lol--they bought me the flowers and card)

had a nice relaxing day, just chilling out and had lunch at my mums place..ate too much, not good for my 8 week challenge lol..ahh well!

Seacretsquirrel

11-05-2009, 07:37

BM I got a 2nd chance offer on another ergo if you are interested??? for the same as what I paid

BoyCrazy

11-05-2009, 07:49

thanks hun..id love too, but i already have 2 carriers, and dp wold probably shoot me if i bought another one!! :laughing: but thanks for the offer :D

Seacretsquirrel

11-05-2009, 07:54

No worries I have till midnight to accept so if you change your (or your DP's) mind let me know!

BoyCrazy

11-05-2009, 08:22

thanks SS :D ill get on his case when he wakes up! hes still asleep!! how i wish i could sleep in, just one day!! think ill be waiting a while lol

sweetseven

11-05-2009, 10:12

I was really tired all mothers day but it was good. DD3, DD4, & DD5 had gifts they had made at school, and what DD3 had written in her card was really touching.

DD2 came along when we went to visit Mum, and was glad she did. This was the first time she'd seen her in three years.

DP lamented all day that he hadnt gotten me anything for mothers day. However when I bought some cooking chocolate, he gave me some normal chocolate he had bought for cooking as a defacto mothers day present. Also, when bub wouldn't go down for the nught, he took her to allow me to sleep.

And this morning, I was still tired and accidentallt let bub wet my bed whilst I was changing her. DP found the bed stripped later and commented that I obviously didn't want him to have a lie down. I apologised, explained, and mentioned that they were washed and ready to go outside. He lay down in the spare bed instead.

I'm glad most of you had a good mothers day. My condolences to those that didnt. MM, I hope things improve for you soon. SS, have a lovely holliday.

parentingrocks

11-05-2009, 13:32

MM - :hugs::hugs::hugs: I hope you are feeling better soon. I think you should take BM up on her offer and go out for the day and leave your troubles behind. Retail therapy and a good chat over coffee could really help you.

AFM - I went to a sleeping seminar this morning that was held out our council (signed up at mothers group the other week). I think I knew most things they went through but I did get a few little hints and tips. And its nice to hear how much sleep bubs should be getting at what age, she also gave tips on how to wean the baby off the dummy and off being wrapped - these are all things I will work on over the next few months. Fom hering some of the questions that came from some mums I'm assuming Charli is doing well in most aspects because I haven't had nearly half the probs these ladies did, so I am thankful of that.

I have to go just heard my mu pull up. Speak to you all properly later on .......... !

A'sMummy

11-05-2009, 14:11

Hi Ladies
MM- :hugs: I hope your mothers day turned out ok in the end. My Dh was also an outright jerk yesterday :o He also slept in till 11am, then got up, sat on the couch and watched TV. By 12.30 I ended up saying "are you going to wish me a happy mothers day" and he goes "well now that you have asked, no I am not" and turns the other way. Well out came the waterworks :crying: and he still didn't give a toss. The to make matters worse, we spent the rest of the afternoon at the inlaws... yay (not). Although, they asked him what he got me for mothers day and when he had to say nothing I think he felt rather guilty... and guess what, today he rang and told me he got me 3 pandora charms today (which is what I told him I wanted ;)). I have the "A" already and I wanted the "N" the "Y" and another "A" to spell Anya. This is the FIRST time EVER he has got me a present all by himself, as in, go to the shop by himself and get it, in 10 years!!!
So... I guess he has made up for his bad behaviour yesterday. I hope your DH has too MM.

My highlight of Mothers day was meeting RTG and her darling lil cutie Kayla! :goodvibes: Oh and I seen her massive collection of MCN's... simply AMAZING!! I am green with envy hehehehe

SS- I love my ergo!! You got it at a wonderful price!

Natski- Oh I hear you on the not feeling sexy thing right now... I feel like a massive blob! I need a good hair cut, my eyebrows waxed, shave my gorilla legs, a bit of colour on my skin and to loose a few kilos.... so not sexy right now :o

zephani

11-05-2009, 14:17

she also gave tips on how to wean the baby off the dummy and off being wrapped

What were the tips for weaning babies off being wrapped?

natski

11-05-2009, 15:33

What were the tips for weaning babies off being wrapped?....yes, do tell Solsen...and the dummy weaning tips! After having a thumbsucker, I have been a bit too quick to stick a dummy in Olivia's mouth a bit too often!

C&C - hugs to you also that you didn't have the best mother's day. Glad he made up for it though, and that's something very special for you to keep for your first mum's day. DH got me a trollbead bracelet with some charms for my first mothers day, so it's something nice to remember for a long time!

Oh, and on the not feeling sexy thing...God Love DH wants me to wear my nice little pj's and I'm like...oh babe...give me a bit of time to 'preen' myself!!! haha! I absolutely HATE having my hair cut and coloured, I just find it SO tedious. So, my 15 year old niece cut my hair yesterday and she did such a fabulous job - she did the fringe the way I've been asking every single hairdresser to do for the past 3 years (and them not doing it). God love her, I've found my new hairdresser....she's even offered to do some highlights for me from a packet...I think what the heck, If it's a disaster I'm not forking out $150 for it. Haha..yay to home makeovers...hmmm.....now, who can I get to wax my legs....!!!!

Have a good week girls.

parentingrocks

11-05-2009, 15:55

hi again, mum is gone now so i can get back on here and finish my blabbing...

about the not feeling sexy stuff.... omg... me too! I hardly put on weight while pregnant butt have put on a couple of kilos after having her. I think breast feeding makes me extra hungry and I've become a chocolate adict!! So not in fine form 'bpdy wise' thats for sure!! Although I must admit last week I let my guard down a few nights in the bedroom for the first time in a while and I did actually enjoy it IYKWIM... sorry if this is TMI but I found since having the baby I really need to use a bit of lube and it really makes things a LOT nicer. Even my ob said I would prob need to use it for a few months when having sex before my cycle returns to normal because 'juices' aren't produced the same as before after having a baby..... errrrr... ok I really revealed too much there didn't I!! sorry.

Well the tips for weaning the dummy.. basically if you're doing the 'feed play sleep' routine only use the dummy for when you put the baby down in their cot AWAKE and let them have it when sleeping. It can be assosiated this way for the baby as something that means 'sleep' so that will also help them go to sleep on their own..... so basically this first step is stop using it during any activity/play/general awake time, only as a settling tool. THEN stage two of weaning it was to put the baby down for a sleep as usual and wait 2 mins before offering the dummy, also during this stage if they need any re-settling like if the dummy comes out and they are grizzling and you go back in to help settle them again wait another 2 mins before putting the dummy back in their mouth... Eventually you continue this but wait 4mins.... then 6 mins... then 8 mins... eventually the baby will depend less on the dummy to go to sleep.

The wrapping.... she said to initially wrap just slightly less tight than normal... then with one arm out and keep doing that for a while until the baby gets used to having the one arm out, then both arms out (so the wrap is now only restricting the legs wriggling around)... then eventually loosen the wrap until baby is used to it enought to ust pop baby in bed and tuck normal bedding in tight. So the tightly tucked bedding replaces the feeling of the snug wrap.

I'm really not explaining it as well as the lady did but it did make sense to me.. it was all about gradually reducing it all and waiting until the baby gets used to the inital reduction (of use of dummy or wrap less tight) before you move on to reduce it further.
:o not sure if I've explained it very well.

Well I am off to clean the bomb that I call home.

xxx

megaminz

11-05-2009, 15:56

thanks for the :hugs: ladies
I was so disappointed in him, my first mothers day and he ruined it

he has since apologised but I am not feeling kindly to him yet

zephani

11-05-2009, 18:50

:hugs: to the people who didn't have a good Mother's Day yesterday. Especially to those who were celebrating their first Mother's Day :kiss:

Yesterday was a double celebration for us. It was my first Mother's Day and Katherine's Baptism. I received my first present on Thursday when DH's parents sent me personalised postage stamps. They used a nice picture of Katherine and I, and had them made into stamps. They are beautiful! It was perfect timing as we can use them to send our thank you cards for the baptism. DH bought me a picture frame and put pictures from our wedding, from when Katherine was born and us as a family. He placed it on the wall near our front door, so it is the first thing you see when you walk in our house.

Katherine's baptism started at 11:30am. It was a short service and then we had pictures taken by a professional photographer we organised. She has two godmothers and two godfathers. It was a small celebration with just us, her godparents, my Mum and sister, and my other sister and her family. After that we went back to our place for a bbq lunch. It was lovely! People had come a long way to celebrate us and it was great to spend our double celebration with them.

The only annoying thing happened was my mother. She was meant to stay with us last night, but decided to go home yesterday afternoon instead. I found out today that she had been *****ing to people that I don't let her hold Katherine enough and I didn't pay enough attention to her yesterday. Bah! If that's how she felt why couldn't she talk to me? Two of Katherine's godparents only met her for the first time yesterday, so of course they wanted to spend a lot of time with her. Grrr!!

Katherine is 12 weeks old today. We are going to get her weighed and measured on Wednesday to see how much she now weighs at 3 months. She has been very grizzly today, drinking way more than usual, tugging on her ears and not sleeping as much during the day. Do you think she might be going through a growth spurt? Is that common at 12 weeks? Or could it be the start of teething? What can I do to relieve her pain?

parentingrocks

12-05-2009, 08:57

Hi everyone.

Hope you are all having a good day.

Charli had a good night - slept from 10.30pm - 7am, I must have learnt something at that sleeping seminar! She also has been back in her cot since 8.15am too. She doesn't last long - is only up for 1 - 1.5hours and nees her nap again. The settling her into her cot while she is awake thing is working a dream..
AFM I have a friend coming over for an early lunch so I better get cracking on the housework! The house has seen better days... washing piling up, kitchen still has dished from yesterday, bathroom discusting.... i must get cracking!

See you all later on...

JLeesmum

12-05-2009, 09:06

my friends baby got her 2 bottom teeth at 12 weeks!..thats VERY early! our babys r growing up too fast!
apparently, your kids reach there milestones at roughly the same time u did..i didnt know that

parentingrocks

12-05-2009, 17:51

wow its pretty quiet in here today. i hope thats because u are all resting or having fun rather than not on here because bubs are being demanding!

DP is just showering charli girl so i thought i'd pop on here to see how you're all going but i'm a loner!! where are all you lovely mummies????? :crying:

Seacretsquirrel

12-05-2009, 19:46

I've been popping in occasionally today but have not really anything much to say (yet here I am rabbiting on as usual) Riley is a pretty cruisey baby he sort of has to be cause Miss Z is pretty all over him all the time - luckily for me he generally sleeps through her attentions - mostly!
But I have actually been busy getting organised! I can finally see part of the floor in our spare room I am about to start sorting through all my ribbons and buttons and stickers and scrapbooking bits so that I can pop them into the CD shelving I am reusing as my craft storage! (we minismised and popped all our DVDs and CDs into those soft cases so they take up less room!) - I am getting organised slowly!!!
Plus taking master R back to the Dr's to get the all clear on his ear infection and the Dr even amazed me by saying hang onto the ear drops incase you need them again rather than their usual chuck everything mantra. And I even managed to get my hair cut with minimal fuss from both kids and the hairdresser!!!!:smiliedance:
Anyway I should get back to my sorting hopefully you are all doing great and enjoying bubs!

natski

12-05-2009, 20:49

I know....it's oh so quiet! Also been popping in, but have nothing exciting to say!

Does anyone feel that some days they just feel a bit overwhelmed by things you need to get done and just feel like you can't do it all? I had one of those days today, but I'm also trying to get alot of things done in one day and putting a bit of pressure on myself..IYKWIM? I think I just need to feel like I'm organised and on top of things, crossing things of my 'to do list', but then when it doesn't get done, I feel like my brain has gone to mush. I need to be organised to have a clear head. Wish I could just go with the flow and do whatever, whenever. Also I think because we're still making decisions about our renovations so I feel like we're 'living in limbo' at the moment.

Anyhoo, enough of my babble. I'm off to get a bit more freelance work done and do an invoice so I can get paid! woohoo!

Hope you are all well!

bedprincess

12-05-2009, 23:22

Hi all, Im Alexa. :wave:

I havent been on bubhub since a few weeks b4 my son was born. He was ment 2 b born in march so I dont really know some of you. Was just wondering if anyone was thinking of starting 2 teach your little one(s) reading. Alixander loves me holding up letters of the alphabet and saying them..he watches and follows my finger around the letters. I can do it up 2 3 times.
would love 2 know your views?:babydust2:
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Seacretsquirrel

13-05-2009, 07:53

Morning ladies
Nat I know what you mean I am a list maker too (I am also a procrastinator which can be a bit of a problem but I do usually get there in the end:rolleyes:) I have finally go my spare room organised which DH and I started before DS was born so a lot of procrastination!(okay so 3 months of that I was interstate so not sure if it counts) but now I can see the floor!!!!!! jsut have to hang some pictures then I'll have gotten rid of most of the stuff in there that is just sitting around!
Welcome Bedprincess! I haven't been doing that sort of intensive work with DS but he often listens in when I am reading to DD I am not stressing about teaching to read just yet I am a firm believer in fostering the love of books rather than pushing the "reading" but I am sure your LO loves the interaction with you!

I have got the health care nurse coming to visit in about 40 mins - they come to us up here wich is different! - so I can get a developmental assessment on R to check he is on track with everything - esp with the short legs downs syndrome thing we were concerned about before he was born - I am almost postive that he is fine but I just want a bit of reasurance and it will be good to get the weigh and measure done too!
I am then off to morning tea with friends (the same ones who took pity on me for mothers day - I don't know what I'd do with out them)
so I'll pop back later to see whats been happening!:wave:

OneCheekyMonkey

13-05-2009, 08:04

no real news here, i am on a borrowed laptop as mine has been sent back to acer for repairs under warranty. grr at having a new laptop keyboard break.

my mothers group which was organised by the CHN is starting our own playgroup which is exciting ! they are mostly nice albeit a little snobby. i guess i have to expect that in the area i am in.

hmm daney is rolling and giggling and tries really hard to stand on his feet lol. he loves his ergo, like, LOVES it. it is the only carrier that i can carry by boofyfattyboombah 8 kilo baby in. he is gaining weight (as usual) but not getting longer (well if he is it is slowly) so his 0s are still fitting. Yay.

the weather is beautiful here, sunny during the day, slight wind, and cooling off at night.

i need to buy a new carseat, i am really sad over this but i dont feel he is ready to be turned at 3 months. and the seat only goes to 9kg. so i am back doing carseat reasearch. it seems most safe and sound, maybe all, rearface to 12 kilos.... bleh we just did not need this expense!
:no::rolleyes:

perth is having another bubhub dinner on sat night, so we will be going to that, i find i am being really quite social !

anyway the little one is asleep so ideally i should still be too.... heh.

ttfn

Lateralus

13-05-2009, 08:09

Morning all - I have been reading the last few days but nothing really to add to the thread.

Welcome to Alexa (BP) - I am the same as SS - have been reading to Zoe - she loves story time - looking at the pictures and hearing my poor attempts at different voices for different characters. Not teaching her to read as such - just to appreciate story time.

natski hope you manage to scrub a few things off your 'to-do' list - is there anything more satisfying than a fully checked-off to-do list? I am a bit of an ostrich when it comes to mess around the house at the moment - just stick my head in the sand and pretend it's all ok even though the bathroom is disgusting and is in desperate need of a clean and de-mould. *sigh* I'll get there eventually. It just seems that when Zoe IS settled and quiet, I want to sit down and relax, not do house work... :sleeping:

I am going to head to the early childhood clinic this morning to get a referral to the sleep & settling nurse. Zoe has had some really excellent days and nights recently in terms of sleep, but she's had some shockers too - we just don't seem to be able to get any consistent results... So thought we might as well utilise the free service and see what they can suggest. Also keen to get some suggestions as to how to get Zoe from the bassinet to the cot - we've tried a few times, but so far she just screams and won't settle at all... Any hot tips ladies?? :goodvibes:

OneCheekyMonkey

13-05-2009, 09:59

hey kate

no hot tips on transferring from the bassinett to the cot, dane was happier in the cot because he could sprawl starfish style :laughing:
goodluck at the nurse, let us know if she gives some great simple tips !

gizmoduckus

13-05-2009, 10:11

Hi everyone!

Well we have finally been having a little luck here. After dealing with L hardly sleeping during the day for 15 weeks we finally went and bought the Sounds for Silence cd and it seems to be working. :yelclap:

Usually we have to try and settle him for 30 mins for him to only sleep 45 mins at the most and then he would be upset and grumpy for the whole day. Since Sunday he has self settled within a few minutes without the dummy and has been sleeping for at least 2 hours at a time. We now have a happy baby and a very happy mummy!

:fingerscrossed: That it doesn't stop working...... otherwise :hair:

bedprincess

13-05-2009, 10:23

Ok thanks girls,
katejo- I told my partner a few days ago it will be sad when Alixander starts sleeping in his cot. I asked George if we could move the evil TV out of our room 2 make way for the cot..that way Alixander gets 2 stay in the room and im not so sad. He said no :crying::hissy: I guess if you have enough space you could put the cot in your room a little.
Also a GREAT TIP my hairdresser told me was 2 put my bra over his cot so he can still smell my milk. i though that was a fab idea!

parentingrocks

13-05-2009, 11:56

Yay everyones chatty again!! :)

Welcome Bedprincess!

KJ- good luck with the sleeping/settling nurse. I found (prob not very 'sids' safe) but putting a thin blanket under the fitted shett of the cot made for a softer feel for xcharli when I first put her in there. It seems to help because she hated the hard flat surface of the mattress on its own. Are you wrapping? We have a routine at night of straight after the shower taking into her room dimmly (sp?) lit, do her last feed in there, put soft music on, then a bit of quite time on the floor with her to burn some energy - like no toys or major stimulating stuff just talking to her and reading etc, then wrap and a little cuddle til she's half asleep and then pop her in the cot and tuck her in.. she usually takes 5-15 mins to get herslef off to sleep and if she's grizzley or wriggley (sp!?) I pop the dummy in. I found doing this over and over every night she eventually got used to the idea of being in that room and in her cot. Also any middle of the night feeds I kept her in that room too. You may already be doing something like this but thought I'd mention it incase it helps.:o

AFM - I am off to mothers group its a fair way away but think I might walk with the pram anyway so I can try to be active for once. Thinking of starting a bit if a biggest loser thing with my mothers group friends. I might suggest it today and see what they say.

Anyway, better get walking could take me up to 45mins to walk there.

xxx

zephani

13-05-2009, 12:07

DH and I took Katherine to the Community Centre to be weighed and measured for her three month birthday. The midwife was lovely and talked a lot with us.

Katherine is now 7.3kg, measuring 65cms long and has a head circumference of 41cm. All perfectly proportioned and totally beautiful :-)

I think we will have our 6 month blue book check done there as well. They seem to have the time to talk you through things, whereas the Dr's seem to be very rushed.

OCM I understand your issues with the carseat. Katherine is too long for hers, so we had to take the newborn insert out, cause she is still too young to be forward facing.

Lateralus

13-05-2009, 12:59

Solsen It sounds as if we have a very similar evening routine.. A lot of the time we manage to get Zoe settled, it's just that she wakes up so often and won't self settle again. Not so bad during the day as we can just go in & pat or rock her back to sleep.. But it really takes it's toll the nights she's awake every 45 minutes wanting to be resettled.

The early childhood nurse was pretty useless today. She said to just keep doing what we're doing.... Listen lady, if what we were doing was working, I wouldn't be here asking for help now would I??? I really had to firmly insist on a referral to the sleep nurse... Pretty much had to say I felt on the edge of insanity because of sleep deprivation... And she said "why don't you give it one more week and come back if you're desperate..." Um - hello.... Is being on the edge of insanity not as close to desperate as you'd like?? :laughing: Anyhow - managed too squeeze a referral out of her - and hopefully we'll be able to make an appointment with the sleep nurse within a week or so.

quitecontrary

13-05-2009, 13:34

Kate I'm glad you got your referral. Do you keep the radio/whatever on for Z? Now our house just hums along to ABCClassic FM it seems.
When G used to wake up after 45 minutes - which was the end of Sounds for Silence we used to just pop the cd on again and she'd go off. (glad its working for you too Gizmo - we loved it for G). Poor old Tobias definitely has second child syndrome - and I'm sure he will blame us for it, but we just leave him to his own devices when it comes to sleeping/ getting back to sleep particularly.

All is well here, Toby just keeps on keeping on. He really is an easy baby - but I think a lot of that is as mentioned earlier. Genevieve is a lot more full-on than he is - but at least she sleeps through the night!
I am sure one or the other of them will be waking soon, probably should have a quick shower otherwise I'll have chlorine skin til tomorrow - G and I went to the gym this morning, I'm so glad she loves the creche there.

Lateralus

13-05-2009, 17:38

QC we have been using the Sounds for Silence CD (on your recommendation :D) since she was around 3 weeks old. We put the one track on repeat ALL night (she loves track 4 - sounds like the ocean I think). She certainly settles better with it on than with nothing or even with a bit of classical music. It's just the staying asleep thing that she seems to have trouble with. Ah well - we will get there eventually I am sure :yes:

sweetseven

13-05-2009, 17:43

Zephani Katherine's baptism sounds like it was a lovely event.

My little bub has been unsettled a lot the last couple of days. I should've enjoyed her going to bed early and sleeping through the night whilst she was. It appears that has come to an end.

Bub bit my thumb yesterday, and I could feel the hard lump of a tooth under the gum. No, I dont expect it to breakthrough anytime soon, but it has likely started giving her trouble. IIRC DD6 had her teeth giving her trouble for about three months before they broke through.

Alexa I havent really been reading to bub, but she's often on my lap whilst I read to the toddler. She not really interested in the books yet, and it is easiest to feed her to keep her from disrupting the story.

On that note, the toddler has been really naughty lately. She started with attention-seeking behaviour before christmas, and it has just worsened with time. She seems to take pride in doing naughty things, and will have the biggest grin on her face as she says "<her name> naughty". She has been fully toilet trained (daytime) for over a year, but now will just say "<her name> wee" as she stands anywhere whilst doing it. She even defacated on the toilet room floor today, which is extremely out of character for her.

Seacretsquirrel

13-05-2009, 18:43

On that note, the toddler has been really naughty lately. She started with attention-seeking behaviour before christmas, and it has just worsened with time. She seems to take pride in doing naughty things, and will have the biggest grin on her face as she says "<her name> naughty". She has been fully toilet trained (daytime) for over a year, but now will just say "<her name> wee" as she stands anywhere whilst doing it. She even defacated on the toilet room floor today, which is extremely out of character for her.

My toddler delighted in doing the same thing for a while she seems to have mostly stopped it now unless she gets the chance to wee outside or in the shower "mum I wee in shower / grass" kinda funny but not great!!!

I got my ergo today - I only paid on Monday so very fast!!!! Now all I have to do is work out how to best use it for a bub without the NB insert I don't really wan't to fork out $$$ for something that will only be used for a few weeks I think it will work if I pop him in with his feet to the side cause his legs don't open enough to wrap round my waist (I don't think it helps that I am not a little girl either!!) but hopefully it will be good for shopping ect and I'll be able to take miss Z for a walk with her bike on my own too!!
I also sold the bassinette today too so thats another $80 into my kitty so the ergo is well and truely paid for with some left towards the kinderkot - I lost out on the ebay thing it is up to $92 and $34 postage which puts it not much cheaper than buying it at the shops here I jsut have to wait for toyworld to have a sale!!!

anyway both kids are in bed I am having a bit of a relax before facing my washing up and yet for washing to fold - how do 2 kids create so mcuh washing!!!!

ardora

13-05-2009, 21:26

Hello!

Well, it has been ages since I last posted... I just read all posts and cannot really go into personals.. too much to answer. Just big hugs to everyone, especially to those that are going through tough times.

We went to Spain and it was great! G was awesome during the trip, sleeping and smiling to everyone- it was really tiring for me though as I had to stay (kind of) awake in case he woke up. We saw lots of friends and relatives and I managed to do the two bits of work that I needed to do. It was good but extremely tiring as DH was not there with me, so any help I got was a favour and I did not want to make my parents too tired.

In the down side, G has developed a bit of reflux, it is not too bad but he spews all the time and so was not putting enough weight and he sometimes screams for apparently no reason... I saw a paed and they gave me some medication, ranitidine and motilium, and I think he is getting better but I have been told that I will only see effects in a couple of weeks after starting the treatment. But he is already putting weight so I feel calmer.

Re- sleeping. G is a good sleeper and has been making 7 hours after a midnight feed (bath and feed at 20:30h and top-up feed at midnight). I am now trialling without the midnight feed and yesterday he did, 21h to 4h, and then 4h to 8h... not bad! The objective will be 21h to 6h for June when I need to start working again two days-a-week. I must say that he settles himself most times, although if he is screaming for some reason (reflux, jetlag, overtired...) I then have to put him to sleep on my arms...

This week has been a bit challenging and I guess that it is a combination of reflux, jetlag and me being a bit lost with an older baby that needs more awake time and I sometimes over do it.

Well, it is already a LONG post... sorry!!

:goodvibes: Have a great night :goodvibes:

parentingrocks

14-05-2009, 08:36

morning ladies.

not a lot to report from me today! Its boring same old same old in my household!!
Charli slept well again last night - fed at 9pm, asleep by 10pm and didn't wake til 7am this morning so was pretty happy with that. I have been hearing story after story about when you finally get you bub sleeping overnight that before you know it they change and startw aking all the time so I don't want to be too confident that this good sleeping pattern will last but I can only hope!!

Well its my sis birthday today. Will just get her a voucher to the shop sh'es obsessed with and get a cake, we're all going to mums to have dinner for her. Think I might just stay at mums house tonight after the dinner because Charli is so horrible in the car seat at the moment I can imagine that late at night when she will be so tired drivng home will be a nightmare. DP is so tired at the moment we're going to tell the family that he's working late so he doesn't have to come, I know that sounds horrible but that way he will get a good nights sleep in as he really really needs it.

Well I better be off. Enjoy your day ladies

p.s sorry for the :ecomcity::ecomcity::ecomcity:

Purplebird

14-05-2009, 08:41

Hi everyone - haven't been around much so I won't try and catch up! Welcome to the newbies though - wow, Tiera you're certainly brave with 7 kids. I think that would be wonderful in many ways though :) I hear you on the toddler thing - DD is 2 and seems to also 'enjoy' being naughty. The only thing that helps is giving her lots of attention - I'm sure we'll get there in the end!

SS - you can use a rolled up blanket in your Ergo instead of the newborn insert. Just sort of wedge the blanket in I think.

Kate - LOL at your Maternal and Child nurse. Sounds a bit like mine when I was having sleep problems with DD - she just kept saying "It's normal", which of course it is but that didn't help me much! I ended up co-sleeping to save my sanity and felt a lot better then.

floodprincess

14-05-2009, 11:00

Morning ladies (although it's really almost afternoon)...

:hugs: to those with sleep & reflux issues and challenging toddlers (reading your stories makes me thankful for our big age gap - there's no way I could cope, my hat goes off to you awesome mums!!!)

Well nothing really new here, M's arm is coming along swimmingly so lots of relief there (just have to keep an eye on it) and her daytime sleeps are sometimes pretty good, even though tday she's really unsettled and sleeping in my arms atm (i hate single finger/hand typing, drives me nuts lol). Paed says that she's not gained enough weight for his liking (she's a petite 4.6kgs @ 3 months) so has prescibed me motilium...sigh, hope it works DD1 had to go on to formula at about this age due to no weight gain!

Solsen...I hear you on hating the car seat!! M likes to see what's happening around her and has started trying to pull herself into a sitting position to achieve this so when she's in the car seat, 1 she can't see and 2 she's strapped in so can't rise herself up and ends up screaming blue murder!! Wish she was bigger so I could safely turn her around, cause I'm pretty sure she'll have the same 'issue' with other types of rear-facing seats...

Dear me...a whole range of woes...they pale in comparison to the challenges faced by others!

Oh well....i'm milking the smiles and snuggles for all they are worth right now....going to miss them when I return to work in 2 weeks...

Anyway, have a great day ladies and I'll try to pop in and out as the afternoon allws..sorry to ramble on!

sweetseven

14-05-2009, 11:42

Greetings all. Bub is having a big sleep today, which has enabled me to focus on the toddler and housework, but I just hope this doesn't mean she'll be awake all night. Hopefully, she is just making up for the last few days.

However, she's been down long enough now that if it were night time I would express, whereas I am hesitant to do so now because she could wake up at any time. Hopefully she'll wake up soon and relieve the pressure.

quitecontrary

14-05-2009, 11:58

Hello!
FP I hope that the medicine helps your supply. Bake yourself some of the lactation cookies (recipe here in BF section) they taste great - and I'm sure they work!! I think I should make some just in case!
Kate how funny about the track 4 phenomena in your house, I'm glad it works as much as it does!!
Ardora - Welcome home!! Glad to hear that the trip went well! Sorry to hear that Gabriel is unwell, I hope the medicine kicks in properly for him soon.
Teira and PB I hear you with the Two Year Old!!
Nothing like a bit of acting up to get a rise out of mum in this house. I feel dreadful rousing on her and am trying so hard not too. Luckily T just rolls with whatever's going on, or at least perhaps I am immune to his cries when I'm dealing with his big sis.
He is in the bouncer just chatting away to me, smiling and being charming. G is asleep, she had a cold and was in a foul mood when we got back from dropping dh to work so it was straight to bed for her.
I went back to my Ob this morning for my pap smear. It was good to see him again, and he was as lovely as ever. So I have been going in circles all day between our place and the inner city suburbs! I even think a 3rd trip to the city might be in order as I want to go to Chinatown for dinner. Actually I want to go to China - so my fave eating house is the next best thing, and a lot easier with two kids in tow I suppose.

floodprincess

14-05-2009, 12:05

Thanks QC...will go hunt for the recipie and give them a go!!

ardora

14-05-2009, 13:24

Hello again!

Thanks for your wishes QC - G is not too bad, he has days... today, for example, he is sleeping quite a lot (for his normal being) and eating a lot less... not too worried because his nappies are still wet when I change them BUT I wonder whether he is getting ready for the 3 month growth spurt? Last night he slept from 9pm to 5am! and he ate well then, but since then he has been refusing or taking a bit and pulling off (ouch!)... let's see what happens... anyone else with bubs behaving 'funny'?... could it be my milk supply? (I think I have plenty but who knows...)

Kate, good luck with the sleeping consultant, I hope they help you. I also hate when everything is normal... we always joke about it at home, the baby poops every 3 minutes (normal), 3 hours (normal), 3 days (normal!!!), 3 weeks (normal too!!!) hahaha!! and if the baby cries and is uncomfortable is normal too... well... maybe we can do something about it... EVEN IF IT IS NORMAL!! :rolleyes:

Well off to have some lunch- I spent too long tryin to feed G.

:goodvibes:

zephani

14-05-2009, 15:25

Just wondering if anyone has used the Baby Einstein DVDs with their bubs? Or older babies? DH has got the whole set of 26 DVDs and I'm just wondering how useful they are?

parentingrocks

15-05-2009, 07:58

morning everyone

zeph - i have been given a few but haven't used them yet so not sure - sorry not much help there.

Charli has discovered that her arms and legs are actualyy HER arms and legs and has turned into the biggest wriggle pot. She fkings her arms and legs around like no bodys business its driving me up the wall... I wrapped her so tight last night and she kept waking up so I'd go to check on her and sh had gotten out of the wrap and limbs were flying all over the place in her cot. Grrrrrrrrr... bit of a sleepless night for me. She is so cheeky, how does a 3 month old already have mastered how to manipulate me??/

Anywho going to spend the day indoors hoping to catch up on sleep the next time she goes down....... right now she is wriggling arouns sitting on my lap talking and sucking my hand.

see you all later - wish me luck for a better day than my night was!!

xxx

ardora

15-05-2009, 09:38

Good morning.

G slept 21h to 5:15h and then to 8h and DH being the thoughtful being that he is (unfortunately only sometimes :rolleyes:) took him away to allow me to sleep until 9:30h woo-hoo!!!! He was quite unsettled yesterday, spewing a lot... let's see how we go today.

Solsen, G is also wriggling like there is no tomorrow, and I guess that that does not help the spewing... and manipulated by a 3 month old?? that is wxactly how I feel at times! :D

Have a good day! :goodvibes:

zephani

15-05-2009, 09:47

Katherine had her longest sleep ever last night. She slept from 9pm straight through till 7am. Since we were up early we decided to go and do the food shopping while no one was around. She slept from 8am - 8:30am and she is asleep again now. I hope it doesn't mean that she is getting sick again. We are just getting over her bronchiolitis.

sweetseven

15-05-2009, 10:27

Sorry, dont know anything about baby Einstein.

Bub started vocalising a lot last night, and again this morning, so that is really melting our hearts.

happymess

15-05-2009, 11:06

Hi everyone, I am still around, we have been a bit busy with our 8 year olds birthday and mothers day and such. Mothers day was a bit of a disaster for us, so Dh has promosed to redo it this Sunday LOL.

Tiera Hi, I admire you with 7 girls, I have 4 and even though I would love to have another baby, i dont think my body or my budget would like it.

Miss S is still very settled, I am putting her in her cot to sleep during the day rather than in the lounge and she is sleeping so much better. The pram in the lounge was great to start with, but she recently started just having catnaps, so now that she is in her cot she is having proper sleeps again and I can actually get some stuff done around the place.

We have a couple of baby einstien DVDs and they are cute, my 4 year old still likes them.

I hope all of the sick chicks are getting better. *HUGS*

readytogo

15-05-2009, 11:21

its so cute isnt it!
Only thing is we've had to take away her monitor because she'll lay there at 3am having a nice old chat!!! And we hear every goo and ga no matter how low the volume is!
Fine for her but some of us have to work........

quitecontrary

15-05-2009, 12:24

On the subject of chatting babies, Toby is lying here in his bouncer just rabbiting on about whatever takes his fancy! We've been out in the garden too, just making the most of G being out for the count. T is about to be wrangled into his cot for a nap though, so this mummy can have her post-Aqua shower!
Last night we had our first jaunt with Toby into Chinatown for dinner at our favourite eating house. It was lovely, the two little ones behaved themselves to the best of their abilities. Silly mummy though forgot to give T a quick feed before we set off home, the poor child bellowed almost the entire journey, which thankfully isn't that long.

Lateralus

15-05-2009, 13:26

gizmoduckus

15-05-2009, 13:41

OK - Zoe is now 3 months old and still waking every 2&1/2 - 3hours for a feed overnight - is anyone else the same. It seems as though most people are commenting that their bubs are sleeping through the night... Was it something that happened all of a sudden, or did they work their way up to it sleeping a little longer each night? I am starting to get pretty worn down with such frequent feeds overnight :sleeping:

:hugs: Katejo, sleep deprivation is so hard. L has just been sleeping through the night for the last week but I am expecting him to change again any day now. It was just all of a sudden. One night he was waking up all the time, the next night he wasn't. Do you know if Zoe wants to be fed every time she wakes up? Have you just tried settling her back to sleep without giving her a feed?

AFM we went to playgroup for the first time today. What a nightmare! It is so hard to deal with a baby that doesn't sleep in the pram and a toddler who snatches things off of other kids. Does anyone know of a good sling that I could buy so that L can sleep in that while we are out?

Purplebird

15-05-2009, 14:27

megaminz

15-05-2009, 14:31

Lateralus

15-05-2009, 14:32

ok - so we're not alone then :yes: I think it was just my distorted thinking, but it seemed EVERYONE was saying their Bubs were sleeping through over night.

Giz we decided last night to try and just settle her without a feed, but it didn't work - she definitely seems hungry, and will have a decent length feed each time she wakes. And she's not one to feed herself to sleep, so it's not like she's using that as a crutch to fall asleep.

Maybe it's just that my milk supply still isn't abundant, so she has to feed so often to get enough milk? :confused:

quitecontrary

15-05-2009, 15:57

Kate rest assured that T still likes a few feeds in the early hours. He does a good stretch somewhere between 7-8 til 2-4, then he gets into a 2/3 hour thing. Joy of Joys, Genevieve has been getting up too early too. She is also the type of 2 year old that wakes up around the same time, whether she was put to bed at 6 (yay!) or 9 (if we've been out).

natski

15-05-2009, 16:03

Kate...don't loose hope, you're not alone. Olivia sleeps through from 6ish to 4ish one night, the next she'll wake at 10pm, another night she'll wake at 2am or both 10 and 2! I have also put her to sleep sometimes with the dummy, but that doesn't always work either. I took her to the clinic 3 weeks ago and she was only 4.9kg, on the 10-15th percentile, but chubby and healthy - the clinic sister said that at her size it was normal that she was still waking up at night for a feed.

DS started sleeping through at about 4 months, and that's only because he found his thumb, then at 6 months when he started solids, he started waking up once a night again. It all changes all the time.

One of my beautiful mum's group friends had a few sleeping issues and she was told by the clinic that realistically, babies aren't really meant to sleep through at such a young age, it's only that society seems to think that they should. That made me feel much better.

I hope she gets more settled soon, more for your sake and sanity than anything else. But it doesn't mean she or you are doing the wrong thing or that your milk is necessarily low. If she's putting on the weight, thats good. Hope you get a better night tonight!! :hugs:

sweetseven

15-05-2009, 16:08

My bub will sleep through (until abou 6am) once she goes to bed. The question was when she would go to bed.

At first it wasnt untl 3am (thus not sleeping throug at all). Then it changed, all of a sudden, to 10pm (quite manageable).

One day I went out and she had some EBM late afternoon. A little later I fed her and she went to sleep for the night at 6pm. Amazingly she kept her 6pm bedtime for more than a week, though I had to express in the middle of the night else I would wake up in a puddle.

Then she got rather unsettled one day, and stayed up late that night, and this past week however, she's been staying up until midnight.

So, she was sleeping well, but not now.

Lateralus

15-05-2009, 16:30

Thanks for the reassurance girls. It must seem that I do complain a lot :o Sorry if that's the case! Will keep on keeping on!

A'sMummy

15-05-2009, 17:07

Hi Ladies:wave:
I have been frolicking here the past few days but haven't had much to report. DH and I are going through a bit of a rough patch at the moment... we just always seem to be grumpy at each other allllll the time, so I have been a little sad the past couple of weeks. :gloomy:
Sometimes I feel like we are never going to get through it, and other times I feel like I can't live without him, I hope we sort it out soon for Anyas sake! It doesn't help that he is struggling with an addiction... hoping he seeks some help soon and the help actually works.
Anyways, apart from that, Anya is doing great! She is a happy baby, not sleeping through the night yet either, but most nights she will only wake up for 1 feed.
Anyway, better be off and organise dinner.
Have a lovely weekend all and take care!

Seacretsquirrel

15-05-2009, 18:17

Katejo - don't stress sleeping through is all about persepctive according to the health nurse I had with DD 5 hours at a stretch is considered sleeping through not 10-12 like people think!!! Riley is a bit up and down last night it was 6-30/7 ish till 3am then up at 6 dummy in for a wee bit then up at 7-30 for the day! he is pretty good during the day with sleeping though now just to get the toddler to have a nap so I can!!!
C&C poor you don't forget that having a new bub can put added stress on relationships and I think the important thing is to focus on the love you have for each other an dtry to get a few mins each day just for the two of you even just sitting with a glass of wine or coffee/tea and chatting about your days. it is really important to make a bit of time for each other which is really hard with a new bub but if you can do the odd date night too it is supposed to be great - not sure how works as we don't have any readily available babysitters (no family and all friends are in the same boat as us) but we do try to snatch a few mins where we can even if it is just sharing a shower after bubs is in bed and having a bit of a cuddle. Good luck with it all though:hugs: to you.

QC Z is the same regardless of bed time she is up between 6 and 7am at least the kids are sort of in sync I can usually squeeze a shower and breaky in with Z before R wakes.

AFM a nice day for me today popped in to see the newest addition to the Assail 2 family (the boat crew DH is on) th Buffer and his wife had a little girl 2 weeks ago (Abby Louise which I think is really pretty) but I clicked quite well with "Mrs buffer" so perhaps a new friend???
other than that both kids are in bed asleep (at 6-45 which is a miracle) will see how R goes with sleep tonight!
hope you all have a lovely Friday night and I'll be on over the weekend (I have no life) so will keep on keeping on...:ecomcity:

Purplebird

15-05-2009, 19:46

One of my beautiful mum's group friends had a few sleeping issues and she was told by the clinic that realistically, babies aren't really meant to sleep through at such a young age, it's only that society seems to think that they should. That made me feel much better

that makes me feel heaps better too! :)

C&C - :hugs: you poor thing. be kind to yourself. Having a baby is not a great thing for a relationship. DH and I are always tired and grumpy and it takes a lot of effort to be nice to each other sometimes.

QC - another little girl here who is intent on getting up early (currently 5.30 am) regardless of bedtime the night before! Your dinner out sounded lovely!

KAte - you don't complain heaps! We're here to listen.

Giz - I use a Baby Bjorn (Cameron hates the pram too and I also need my hands free for the toddler at playgroup!). He will soon be big enough to go into an Ergo which is far easier on the old back. They are a bit pricey, but you can get 'em cheap on ebay (just ask our lovely SS!)

Supposed to be watching "Yes Man' tonight with DH, but the little man is feeding and I can't be bothered to concentrate on a film.

Whoever was saying about not feeling sexy the other day - I can completely empathise. My legs are so hairy its obscene! Thank goodness its winter and I can wear long pants all the time!

We have a busy weekend - swimming tomorrow and library both in the morning, then a playdate in the afternoon. Sunday we are catching up with friends for brunch. What is everyone else up to?

OneCheekyMonkey

15-05-2009, 21:21

zeph i have 1 baby einstein and dane is fascinated by it, i am going to get 1 or 2 more.

I have used it a few times when I absolutely have to get something done and he will not settle.

yawn, am tired, will read through the other replies properly tomorrow. hope everyone is well.

natski

15-05-2009, 21:29

awww Kate, you're not complaining...you're on here for advice and support and that's what your bubhub friends are for!!! Anytime honey!

C&C - hugs to you too:hugs: SS is right, it's a hard adjustment bringing a new baby into the world, it's all about them and suddenly your relationship with your other loved one is put on the back-burner a bit. We all have those days where we do think we can't keep going and it's not working, but when you think about the whole scheme of things, the positive things must surely outweight the negatives. Keep your chin up hon, it will get better.

AFM, I too had a big blue with DH tonight. Just spent over an hour doing some ironing and now am going to go to bed in a sulk. We are both very tired and grumpy and hoping the weekend will see better things! Might need to take some of SS's advice me thinks!!!

Have a good weekend everyone :flowerz:

readytogo

15-05-2009, 22:50

I DID IT, I DID IT!!!!

DD went to family day care today for the first time and I went back to work and I didnt call my carer once!!! I felt so weird leaving her but I'm really happy with my carer as shes a mum of 4 so has been through it all before. As for work.....hmm cant swear on here can I??? I work in a nursing home and one family in particular are causing some very big issues why me I always have the crappy shifts in charge :cool:

C&C- Hun you know where I am more than welcome to come over with Anya for a coffee. Dont worry about DP its the same here at times I know I love him but when he acts like a p**ck I wonder if we'd be better off with him out..... As for the addiction he needs to want to break it first and thats the hardest hurdle.

sweetseven

16-05-2009, 06:30

Bub went to bed at 5pm last night, but I was tired and didnt get up to express, so big puddle in my bed this morning.Hopefuuly she's back to her early bedtimes, but 5pm is too early; I didnt even have her sleeping bag on her; her little feet were sold cold this morning.

Seacretsquirrel

16-05-2009, 07:43

I had a rough night here Z in bed by six-thirty and she slept till 7ish this morning wheich was great but R was a royal pain in the bot bot up every 3 hrs on the do for a feed and wanted his dummy put back in a few times in between too which is unusual so I am in need of sleep - I even tried to go to bed early too (8-30) but no cooperation here :sleeping:
I suppose I am lucky in a way with DH being away at least we don't argue :laughing: but I haven't heard from him since Thrus no emails or anything so not sure if it is cause he is busy or if he hasn' bothered cause they ar coming home soon grrrr I hate not knowing.
oop s I am a whingers on here too sorry:o anyway better get this very cranky child into bed and might drag the duplo out for Z. have a great day:wave:

parentingrocks

16-05-2009, 08:27

morning all.

I had a **** last 24+ hours. Charli taking a lot longer to settle to sleep (at night and naps during the day) and its taking its toll... she was feeding every 2 hours yesterday and I was starting to get worried about my supply.. she has been 'fussing' at the boob for ages now, and she sort of hates the right boob only stays on and drinks properly from the left.. with all these little breast feeding probs combined with her weird sleeping/settling patterns I decided to last few feeds to just express my milk and check how much I'm getting out for her.. last night I oexpressed right before she would feed and only got out 120mls in total and our health nurse said the other day babies her age should be having 150-200ml each feed so when I only expressed 120ml it made me start thinking she is feeding so often because she's not getting enough at each feed. So i have been drinking water heaps and expressed 200ml this morning - she had a lovely big feed and has been in bed for the last 2.5hours - I think she needs to catch up on sleep.
I have been thinking about weaning her onto formula. Breastfeeding is great for them I know, but in a very selfish way I really want to stop.. Its hard to explain but I feel like I want my body back - and not in the sense of I want my figure back, more in the sense I want my body back to myself.. i don't know its hard to explain. I just want to feel better about myself, my nipples are stretched, I still leak milk everywhere every now and again I just feel so 'un-feminine' if that is a word!!!!!haha. I don't know, I will think about it. I just want Charli to be happy and feed well, I really feel like when she breastfeeds she just doesn't get enough milk and has to work so dam hard to get it out she is always grizzling and thrashing around, but when I give her EBM in a bottle she just looks so happy suckling away so easily at the bottle, and seeing her s happy like that makes me want to bottle feed her from now on.
Any advice on this topic?
Maybe I have just had a hard 24 hours and am over everything. I just want to feel like 'sally' again and not 'breastfeeding baby-making woman' if that makes sense?

sorry to all of you who are having **** days too.. sorry this has no personals I just wanted to get that off my chest!

sweetseven

16-05-2009, 08:54

I dont think how much you were able to express should be considered a direct measure for how much she gets when she feeds.

Technology has improved to make pumps more effective than they used to be, but they are still not identical to suckling a baby. When my bub goes to bed early, and I express 6 hours later (when my breasts are swollen and sometimes leaking), I get only 80-90ml. She feeds well and there are no signs she isnt getting enough. I just believe it is that the baby is more effective at getting milk out than the pump.

The true measure of how much a breastfed baby is getting is to weigh her before and after a feed. (We did this with my third bub, who wasn't getting enough, and I ended up supplementing her with 30ml formula after each feed.)

Also, with my third bub, I was plainly aware that she was emptying my breasts and struggling to get more. I could feel lines of pain extending up into my armpits when she was trying to draw milk out when there was none there. Another sensation I get when a baby completely empties my breast is that they feel very itchy (inside not on the skin) and I am guessing that is the feeling of milk coming back into empty ducts.

What I'm trying to say, is that I would expect you to be able to feel something to indicate bub was getting all the milk and there still wasnt enough.

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I understand what you mean about wanting to have your body back to yourself. If you feel it is best for you to switch to formula, then it may be. Part of successful breastfeeding is that it is necessary to feel comfortable to be able to get proper letdown.

Another option you may want to consider is using EBM instead of formula. However that may turn out as more of an imposition as you might find you need to express more frequently than you would if you were feeding her directly, because the amount achieved each time you express may not be enough for a full feed.

I wish you well in your soul searching, and I pray you discover to correct option for yourself and your baby.

floodprincess

16-05-2009, 10:11

Morning All....

:hugs: to those suffering sleep deprivation & feeding issues.

We have suffered through both here! Thankfully, Miss M seems to be reasonably content to sleep for most of the night (and it was a gradual thing for us) but each baby is different (I personally think she sleeps so well at night because she doesn't during the day).

But we are encountering more feeding issues again (maybe it's a 3 month thing? DD1 had feeding issues at the same time). The paed mentioned M was a little light for his liking, which has gotten me paranoid about my milk.....she doesn't fuss at the boob and seems quite content after a feed (although there are times it feels like she doesn't empty them) so I'm now wondering if it's a quality rather than quantity issue?? Am debating holding off on getting the motilium till I can see a LC....I don't know, I've got to get this sorted out soon because I need to organise what I'll be doing when I go back to work!!!!:crying:

Lol....ah well, I have two weeks to work it out, and if I have to resort to formula for comp feeds or on a full time basis then so be it....DD1 was formula fed from about 9 weeks and there's "nothing" wrong with her :laughing:

Take care ladies & try to have a good weekend

PS - am with you all on the grumpy with DH thing! I don't get to see mine a lot (more than SS though) because of his shifts, and when he's home he's either sleeping, or like last night, goes up the road for a few items and comes home 4 hours later!!! :hair:

parentingrocks

16-05-2009, 13:25

thanks for your advice tiera3 i was in the same opinion that it really depends more on bubs weight gain rather than ml's.. but i forgot to mention the reason I am a little worried about her not getting enough when breastfeeding is because she only put on 300g in the last month and the nurse said that is certainly not enough. So she hasn't been putting on enough weight anyway, plus with the fussing at the boob and not lasting long between feeds leads me to believe she isn't very efficient on the boob and therefore isn't getting enough milk. I am now confident in my supply - I have expressed the last 4 feeds for her and gpt minimum 160ml each time and she has taken it in the bottle beautifully and slept well. I will continue giving her EBM for a while until I make a decision about formula. I wanted to BF for about 6 months so giving up after 3 I feel a little disapointed, but then again I need to do what keeps bub and I happy.

She is generally unsettled anyway at the moment, just grumpy, minimal smiles and always grizzly.. my mum swears she is teething because I had two fully grown out teeth by the time I was 4 months. Plus Charlis gums are a little swollen and mum said she felt her gums and she said it feels like mine were before my teeth cut through. I thought she may hve been because she drools so much now but that is also common at this age regardless of whether teeth are coming in or not. So who knows. Its so frustrating that everything with babies is just a guessing game.

I here ya all with the DP issues. We don't fight but I feel like he doesn't take his fair share of the 'looking after his daughter' stuff. That doesn't really make sense bear with me I'm a bit delerious today.. but you know what I mean? as soon as the weekend comes he seems to have already made plans with mates and I am still stuck at home with her while he is out galavanting with friends, surfing, drinking etc etc. I just make a point of making him feel guilty when he gets home. haha. I feel like he doesn't comprehend how much work Charli is and all he wants to do when he gets home from work is sit down or go to the gym - basically do his own type things and doesn't help with her at all unless I crack it or end up in tears saying 'please just take her for 5 mins!!'.... MEN.

quitecontrary

16-05-2009, 14:53

Hello!
Solsen, hang on with the b/fing if you can! My dd wasn't putting on enough weight for some people at 4 months, so I expressed for a top-up with every feed for about a month, then we swapped to a formula top-up, then I switched back (eventually) to just b/fing. Maybe if you bf at night and in the morning (nice time for it in my opinion!) and give her formula during the day?

Sorry to hear about those of you who are having partner probs - I think SS is completely on the right track. You really need to factor in a few minutes (or more) just for each other every day. Babies are all-engulfing (is that the right kind-of word?) - capable of taking more than we are willing to give, we just need to take some "us" time.
We had a funny old night last night, went down to dinner at my parents with some lovely friends, put the kids to bed down there and decided (at 11 mind you) that we should stay. G woke up for 2 hours from 2am, and was up for the day at 6. Luckily my parents took her at about 6.15!! She has just had a normal nap this afternoon - I see a long good nights sleep from 6 for her, and about 8 for us I think!
I am being summonsed to do some gardening with G and dh!
Hope you're all enjoying Saturday!

sweetseven

16-05-2009, 20:02

This morning I was feeding bub, and she had both hands wrapped securely around my breast. My toddler saw and piped up "don't touch Mummy's boobies". This was really odd, 'cause normally she'll say something like "Sandra milk" when she sees bub feeding.

DF walked in at that time and told her that her sister was allowed them whenever she wanted them. He then had some inuendo about himself; he's really noticing a lack in the bedroom department.

Bub went down at 6:30pm tonight, but her sisters were to roudy and woke her up, so she's bright-eyed now.

quitecontrary

16-05-2009, 20:22

tiera - sounds like there is a lot of breast territorial-ness going on in your home, hard enough to cope with it from your 2 year old, let alone your df. I hope your bub goes back to sleep soon!
Here dh is already in bed, as are both the kidlets and I am going to go soon (I keep telling myself).
We're all feeling a bit rough after last nights shenanagins.

floodprincess

17-05-2009, 09:27

Good morning girls!!!

Well, I can officially join the list of those with serious complaints about bf....:crying: after experiencing a bit of nipple & other pain on one side while feeding, I thought we had attachment issues so tried adjusting our position and latching to no avail. We managed pretty well during yesterday although nipple was sore all day. I ended up buying some lanolin type cream to soothe it and we had a great feed this morning.

Only problem is she's now re-awoken for a feed, went to latch on, didn't do it so well, I had a bit of pain she pulled off crying and I noticed blood - my blood.....my nipple was bleeding (OMG the pain - I'd forgotten how painful it was):crying:

It's too painful even to express atm.....and I don't know what to do!! Gonna have to find some panadol to try and ease the pain and keep trying to express and get her to take a bottle (which works because I've got to get her used to that since i"m going back to work soon.....)

Sorry for the whinge....we were going so well with the bf, I'm a bit upset...

Have a great day

parentingrocks

17-05-2009, 09:35

well I'm still breast feeding......... :crying: ......... I have expressed pretty much every bottle she's had in the last 48hours. I'm so over it! I do like the idea of breastfeeding as long as possible but I'm just so over the fact that she is fussing around at the boob and thrashing her head around.. she never does anything like this with the bottles.
I tried feeding her this morning and she just did it all again and didn't get a good feed in. My boobs still feel totally full like she hardly took any milk at all, will be interesting to see how long she last before her next feed.

Last night was my sis birthday and we all went out to the Precinct in Richmond, was a pretty good night, I got DP to watch Charli and put her to bed so I could go out for the few hours I was there. We got stuck in the line for 1.5hours!!!!!!!!! My god, I now remember why I hate going out. It was alright once we got in, had a few drinks, had my first shot in over a year!! :laughing: I had to do a 'pump and dump' of BM when I got home to get any alcohol out my system. I wasn't drunk in the slightest but I wanted to be on the safe side, plus she slept through til 6am this morning so it was hours before I BF her again. Anyway, my point being it was nice to get out of the house and have a drink and a dance.

Better go get some house work done.... :(

Purplebird

17-05-2009, 10:19

:hugs: to all those who need them.

Solsen - :hugs: the more you give her bottles, the more likely she is to fuss at the breast I would have thought. If you do want to keep going (not saying you should) I would get rid of all the bottles for a couple of days until she settles down. Hope you figure out whats best for both of you.

Lateralus

17-05-2009, 13:17

FP :hugs: I can SO sympathise with you on the nipple issues. Have you tried putting a bit of ice on your nipple before you feed or express? It tends to numb the area a bit and make it not so painful. Please don't make the mistake I did and just leave the milk in the boob - I think that was what bought on the last bout of mastitis. You could even ring the ABA counseling hotline to see if they have any suggestions... Even if you hand express - time consuming, but a lot gentler than the breast pump!

Solsen I agree with PB that Charli will possibly get more fussy on the boob the more bottles she has... That is certainly what I found with Zoe as she got used to the instant gratification of a bottle (faster flow, not having to wait for a let down etc). I find now when she's being really fussy that it helps if I compress my boob (http://www.kellymom.com/newman/15breast_compression.html)while she's drinking - I think it makes the milk come out a little faster for the little piglet! Awesome that you got to have a night out with the girls... I can't wait to do that... My supply is still not good enough to be able to express extra milk.. Ah well - might have ti wait 'till she's weaned.

tiera3 I secretly think my husband is a bit jealous that Zoe gets to play with my boobs so much... He gets very serious, looks her in the eye and tells her to remember that they are only on loan and that he expects them back in good condition :laughing:

Hope everyone is having a great weekend - we're off to see my sister & Zoe's cousins soon. We've been trying to for about 6 weeks but her girls kept getting sick... Looks like it's on today though :smiliedance:

readytogo

17-05-2009, 14:23

FP I had planned on 6 months of bf but after ending up in hospital when DD was 9 weeks my milk disappeared in 24hrs so no choice but to formula feed. And I have to admit she is happier and more content. I physically coudnt feed or express properly and any EBM had to be tossed anyway. I felt so guilty and upset I had to stop but I now realise she's had boob juice from day 1 so given her the best start possible and she would have to go to formula at some point as I have gone back work as well. We do some breast feeding but I have barely any milk so majority formula nowadays and shes happy and healthy thats all I worry about

quitecontrary

17-05-2009, 15:39

Sorry to hear about all of you who are having feeding issues - apparently this is the time that babies start fussing at the breast (I'm still getting weekly updates from Birth), and T likes a good pull away from the breast thats for sure, and a bit of a muck around on the second breast but will take it a bit later.
As for the partners with b/f issues - Lord, they'll have them for the rest of their lives! Dh would get a verbal slap if he even dared to comment, "look" the wrong way - but he's english, he wouldn't dare - did I ever tell you I used to feel like I'd married Hugh Grant's character from 4 Weddings and a Funeral as far as the "sorry, sorries" were concerned! So polite its scary, but its had a good effect on my "potty mouth"!
He's home with dd so I should go and help bring the groceries in! T is starting up a good groan in his cot too!

sweetseven

17-05-2009, 16:00

I'm starting to wonder if I should give bub a dummy. I've never liked the things, and prefer not to give them to my children. Myt 2nd had one from special care in hospital (heart surgery at 9 days old) and it took a good six months to wean her off it. However, all children are different and I am of the understanding that some children do seem to need one. I know of one woman with twins whom had one for one twin but not the other, for just this reason (different personality babies).

With this bub, the first month, she would continue to suckle with nothing in her mouth at all. After the first month, she discovered her fingers and has spent considerable time with them in her mouth, especially when she is asleep. More recently, she's started treating me a bit like a dummy on occasion, though when I pick up on it, I stop her and her fingers go straight into her mouth.

floodprincess

17-05-2009, 16:05

Thanks for the support ladies!

I've managed to calm myself down somewhat and realised that it's not an insurmountable issue! We were planning on the whole expressing/bottle thing anyway because I've got to go back to work and its too far for her to come visit for feeds during the day, but I was hoping to keep the first and last morning feed to ourselves - it was just a bit of shock to be caught like that!

I don't have any issues expressing (which is funny) even using the electric pump (although it's got a suck control so I can change how hard it sucks) so today we've been testing the bottle and it seems to be going well. For her last evening feed in a couple of hours I'll express some and give her one boob (the 'good' one) just to give the sore one a bit more of a rest.

I guess on top of not wanting to go back to work full time (if I could afford it I'd go back part time), to be suddenly thrust into a non-bf situation kinda made me a little panicky and emotional!

Will be calling an LC tomorrow and chatting about it...thankfully I've got two weeks before going back to work and yeah, I can stille xpress and if I have to she can go onto formula.

Have a great night....am off to settle grumpy M, turn some lights on and think about dinner!

parentingrocks

18-05-2009, 08:54

hi again.

everything getting better here. I called ABA yesterday and they gave me some tips to get Charli back on the boob without the thrashing. She said that at 3 months your supply has really evened out to have exactly what she needs rather than having exsessive amounts of milk that just flow out at a fast rate into her mouth, so now more than ever Charli has to work for the milk and she is probably being lazy and not wanting to do that, hence the thrashing around getting frustrated and the fact that she loves the bottle. SO the advice was to try to encourage Charli to enjoy breastfeeding by doing it all the time for a few days - use me instead of dummy, offer boob all the time, breastfeed in shower or bath where she is really calm and happy, put a strong necklace on so she can play with it while feeding etc etc etc. I tried breastfeeding in the shower last night and she loved it! She stayed on for ages suckling away I was so happy!!! Then this morning she fed well, but she always does because by boobs are so full in the morning it just squirts down her throat so its easy for her. The test will be the next few feedsd during the day today, cos she often feeds bad during the day.Anyway, we'll see how we go.

Well I hope you all have a good day
x

zephani

18-05-2009, 10:29

Good morning ladies :wave:

I'm so proud of my wonderful Katherine! Even if she is grumbly this morning...but that is another story...

Katherine had her first big car drive on the weekend. We went to Nowra (about 4 hours away) for a friend's baby shower. We left home at 8:30am on Saturday morning, went to Tuggerah because a DH's sim card broke and left Tuggerah at 9:30am. She didn't grizzle til we were travelling over the Harbour Bridge at about 11:20am. We stopped and fed her at Sutherland and continued on to Nowra. We arrived at the baby shower at 2pm where she had a feed, a few cuddles and a sleep. We left the baby shower at 4pm and went to visit another friend. She grizzled about 5:30pm so we went back to the hotel. It was the first time we had stayed in a hotel with her and the first time we had used her portacot. She went down about 8pm, woke up for a feed at 1:30ish and then went back down til 6:30am.

Then on Sunday we went out for breakfast at 9am, visited a friend at 9:30am, visited another friend at 11am (she had a feed here), drove to Wollongong at 12:30pm to visit a friend, she had another feed and we left Wollongong at 3:15pm and got home at 6:30pm. When we got home she fed, played and went to sleep at 8pm and didn't wake up till 6:30am this morning.

She was perfect! Slept, played and chatted away in the car. We bought a mirror so we can see her in the driver's reversing mirror.

This is was a test run as we are going to Canberra for the long weekend, then Melbourne for a week and then home via Albury and Wagga Wagga. We will be away for about ten days in total. Now we just need to buy sun shades for the rear window and a toy her to play with.

parentingrocks

18-05-2009, 11:12

wow zeph! thats soooo impressive! Well done katherine:smiliedance: you have a little angel baby on your hands!! good work.

AFM - I know I only posted before but I'm bored so thought I would again. Charli had another pretty good feed before, I know I prob shouldn't but I turned around and let her watch tv while feeding so she was distracted and just sucked away for longer than normal, so it went well. Then I just walked down to the supermarket to get a few things and forgot her dummy whoooooooops, she grizzed the whole way because she uses it to go to sleep and she was due for a sleep. Bit scary though to see the first time she didn;t have her dummy for a nap she couldn't handle it. Great another dummy reliant one here! I will do my best to wean her off it soon because I don't want her to have one for very long. But as tiera3 said some babies just need a dummy, if I don't give it to her she sucks everything else in her path - blanket, her clothes, toys etc.. at least with a dummy I know its sterilised and a good shape for her mouth. Anyway that enough rambling from me! sorry, can you tell I'm bored today??!:laughing:

A'sMummy

18-05-2009, 11:28

Hi All!
Solsen- Good luck with the breastfeeding, you're doing a wonderful job!! I am weaning Anya onto formula at the moment, which I am kind of sad about but we were just having so many issues with breastfeeding. Also, it will make things easier when I go back to work in 2 weeks. I know what you mean about "wanting your body back", it's not being selfish at all, it gets exhausting after awhile hey :yes:.

Thank you everyone for your lovely advice with the problems I am having with DH. We are going to start having "date nights" once a month I think. Also, he is starting medication this afternoon to help fight his addiction. I really hope it works and helps with his anxiety, anger and insomnia which he gets. It's never ever violent anger, just miserable type anger if that makes sense. He is always fantastic with Anya no matter what and most people would never know what he is going through, except me. It makes it kinda hard because only his mum and dad know about his addiction, none of my family do, and I feel like I have noone to talk about it with. So thanks for letting me vent! :yes:
Anyway, enough sad talk.... :flowerz:
Anya is down for a nap atm, she has been sleeping alot lately... could it be a growth spurt?

megaminz

18-05-2009, 11:35

Solsen I am glad you have had some success with getting Charli to feed again!! Well done for sticking with it.

FP I hope you have some relief soon also.

C&C :hugs: for your DH issues. Makes me feel bad about complaining about my DH's moods. You are doing well to cope with a new bub and your DH

Have had about a week of Milan doing 2.5hrly waking at night, was doing my head in. Yesterday we went to a friends for curry lunch yesterdya, he wouldnt sleep the whole time, then got fractious (I think from the curry) then screamed from about 4-7pm apart from 20mins that we spent in the bath together...finally gave him some gripe water, baby panadol and a bottle (didnt trust my breastmilk not to curry him up again) and he slept from 750-12.30 then again til 4.30am...feel human again

re the dummy for sleep thing..are you wrapping bub? the middy showed me how to wrap milan with his hands up by his face so he could suck on them, seems to do the trick

A'sMummy

18-05-2009, 12:46

Ok this is going to sound crazy but I am a little worried Anya is sleeping TOO much!
Since 8.30pm last night she has only been awake for about 2 hours max. She slept through the night and then was awake for half an hour at 8am this morning got dressed and had a feed then went straight back to sleep, then awake again at 10am had a little play then feed at 11.30 and has been asleep since. She has been pretty sleepy the past few days... but no where near like she has been today. Could something be wrong with her?? She seems happy when she's awake, but then falls asleep again :confused:
I feel bad complaining about a baby who sleeps too much when so many of you are having sleeping problems but I am a little worried about her

quitecontrary

18-05-2009, 12:57

C&C Toby usually only stays up for an hour at a time, so this morning he has been awake for two hours and asleep the rest of the time. So, I'd say what Anya is doing is normal, then again everything fits into that category it seems!

A'sMummy

18-05-2009, 13:09

QC- haha you're right... everything is "normal". If bubs doesn't sleep at all, it's "normal", if they sleep alot it's "normal". ;)
I guess she just "normally" is awake for longer periods and is harder to get to sleep, but hey I shouldn't be complaining! :o
I will keep an eye on her when she wakes up though... just incase she is getting sick or something, IF she ever wakes up :p It's been almost 3 hrs for a day sleep now, AMAZING!

megaminz

18-05-2009, 13:17

c&c milan did that for about a week or less not so long ago, I put it down to a growth spurt. He would just feed and still be dozey and just sleep al the time

Purplebird

18-05-2009, 13:29

Big hugs for you C&C - and for DH, it's great that he is doing something about his problems now. I hope it all works out. Don't worry about the sleeping thing with Anya - I'm sure she's fine. Sometimes I think they need to catch up a bit with their sleep.

FP - you sound a lot more positive which is great! I'm sure you'll manage to keep going with the morning feeds. I did that too with DD when I went back to work.

Tiera - I wasn't a fan of dummies, but my DD has one and I think she really needed it. On the other hand this baby will just not take one. He slurps on his hands a bit though.

I took Cam to the chiropractor this morning just for a check up. I've heard it can really help with digestive issues and reflux. Cam certainly suffers with a bit of colic which seems to wake him up in the day. Anyway, it was good - Cam was nice and relaxed. The chiro could feel the tightness in his back and chest and he also did some work on his head to make sure the shape is even. I'll go back twice more, but I like to think it might have done something. I know I always feel good if I've been to the osteo or something!

ALHmum

18-05-2009, 13:42

Hi all :wave: Can I join in with this thread?
My little one is 3 months now and time is flying by. Keep thinking I've only got another 6 months until I have to go back to work. Urgh! Had a check up today and we've grown 11cm and put on 3kg. Born premmie 2130g. Dr says you wouldn't know she was a small baby. Went through all her clothes and have put aside anything that she's grown out of which is alot! She used to be soo small and her clothes look so small. Oh well that's just me going on and on :ecomcity:.
Talk to you all later

Seacretsquirrel

18-05-2009, 14:39

C&C - I am so pleased things are on the up for you. Good luck to your DH for kicking his addiction and seeking help is always the first and hardest step. Riley sleep heaps too I actually had this conversation with my mum the other day and she agreed that it is sometimes just the way for some bubs and that my sister and I were the same as babies just enjoy it while it lasts!Welcome to the mad house ALHmum well my house is a mad house anyway!!! I must agree that is is amazing how small they were just a few weeks ago and mine wasn't even that small.zephani - yippee on your successful weekend away!! Z had her first trip away @ 3 months to Canberra for a long weekend for a friends wedding I bought her the scrunchy ball by fisherprice it was quite good as she could grab hold of it and it was bright colours and black and white as well although I think it was even better once it went through the wash and maybe dryer and had shrunk a wee bit jsut make sure whatever you choose for her it has an off switch!PB hope Cam enjoyed his chiro experience!MM - well I supose the only plus to come out of that is you now know to avoid curries!AFM We are having a quiet day today - and a day off Fraggle Rock and the Bear in the big blue house - I have had enough. So a few arguments have been had but I am still winning. - She has gone from a child who never watched TV to a it obsessed so time for a break! I bought her some of those little hard disk paints cause she keeps wanting to paint and I don't want the mess of her using my craft paints so I'll see how she likes them. Riley is sleeping (again lol) on my bed and just slept through the phone ringing right by his head.I have spoken to DH a couple of times the last few days which has been nice and he is home on Friday all going to plan (this is the ADF we are talking about so I will believe it when he is in my arms again!) Hmmm I have not only rabbited on a heck of a lot I have waaay overused the !!! but my emoticons aren't working :( hugs to you all

BoyCrazy

18-05-2009, 20:51

:wave:
just a quickie from me, but what are you all dressing your bubs in for bed at night?

im starting to do a panic that jasper is getting too cold, now that the nights are cooler, and this house is freezing!

also, if we cant use bonjela for teething, what is something else to help bub? (other than panadol of course)

thanks!

janiceg

19-05-2009, 03:48

we dress bub in a singlet, socks and long sleeve/leg onesie. wrap her and put a little blankie i knitted for her on at night.

you can use brauer teething relief (homeopathic) and we also have an amber teething necklace.

Lateralus

19-05-2009, 07:02

Hi Ladies - hope everyone had a restful night. We didn't do too badly - 7pm-12:30am, 1am-6:30am. She's back asleep now, but I have a few things I need to get done (hence stuck on BubHub & Facebook!!) so I haven't gone back to bed!

Solsen Good work for finding some new BF techniques that work for you! It's so frustrating when they're so fussy on the boob isn't it!! I might try the shower one myself. We still haven't taken Zoe in the shower - we're both so terrified of dropping her. But we'll have to bite the bullet soon as she's almost too big for her baby bath!

Zeph Congrats on the successful car trip and good work Katherine. Hope you have as much success with your Canberra/ Melbourne trips in the near future!

ALHmum :wave: welcome! Looking forwards to hearing more about your recent adventures! Is this your first bub?

C&C :hugs: Big hugs to you lady - You sound like such a strong woman! Have you considered joining a support group for people with partners with addictions? Might help you to get some extra support and to chat to people going through similar things?! Oh, and Zoe has weeks where she sleeps heaps too - as MM said, I had just put it down to a growth spurt too!

BM at night we dress Zoe in a wondersuit plus wrap her and put a light flannel blanket on top. It doesn't seem like enough to keep her toasty, but any more than this and she seems to get too hot and sweaty. And she's been sleeping reasonably well lately - I presume she'd let us know if she was uncomfortable & cold?!

As for us - nothing to report really. Zoe has been sleeping better the past week. She's starting to 'talk' and chatter a lot. We can have some great indepth conversations sometimes. She is still wanting to be held a lot of the time, but we're trying to slowly increase her mat time...

I know it's a while off, but I have been starting to think about the day we start her on solids. We tend to eat when she is asleep - so she doesn't ever really watch us eating at all. Are you supposed to let them watch you eat so they have some exposure to the concept of food? Am thinking we should start putting her in the highchair at the table for at least on of our meals each day? Anyone (especially those with older littlies) have any advice? :confused:

parentingrocks

19-05-2009, 07:31

Morning ladies

KJ - OMG you have to try the shower! It is Charli's favourite thing ever! She outgrew the bath about a month ago now, she was too long for it. Plus with all push to save water in VIC we couldn't justify filling up the big bath for her while she is still so small so one day I said to DP 'maybe just take her in the shower with you'... he tried it and we have never looked back. We just hold her in a few different positions to make sure water gets everwhere and we hardly use any products on her, only every now and again I sud her up and give her a really good clean, usually I just run the water over her. I usually put the towel over the heating duct wheile she's in there too so as soon as she comes out we wrap her up in her warm towel and she is all smiles, we haven't had any tears at bath/shower time for weeks, she loves it, especially now when she gets to feed in there! Last night she fell asleep after the feeed in there because she was so relaxed.

BM - I put charli in a singlet and a suit that has feet in it, wrap her and then tuck her in with 1sheet and 1 blanket... might sound like a lot but we are in freezing melbourne and also next to her room is the toilet and I leave the toilet door open for circulation because it has one of those little 'slot' windows that is always open. I am always torn between keeping her warm because of how cold it is in melbourne and not over heating her because that is all I hear from my MCHN and at mothers group etc 'make sure you don't over heat your baby!' so now I am paranoid!:laughing:

AFM - Charli had a great sleep and feed last night she was down from 9.45pm - 6.30am, was nice to get a solid sleep in myself.
I am off to mothers group, going to walk there again because my a$$ needs the workout!

Speak to you all later

parentingrocks

19-05-2009, 07:36

sorry KJ forgot to say I asked my MCHN the other day about solids and she said it is a good idea to let your baby watch you eat because you know they are ready for solids when they seem interested in food - like they notice you eating it and seem like they want to try it. We still have a while tho, I am going to try around 5 months to start her on a few teaspoons of stuff just to get her used to difffernet flavours and textures. But Charli is usually awake while we are eating and she is already starring at us and our plate while we have dinner.

readytogo

19-05-2009, 07:51

Kayla has taken to chewing everything that comes within reaching distance so we'll probably go for some solids at 5months out latest fav thing to chew is the foot of a toy lion hanging from her rocker its either very soggy or very crusty!!

Solsen- where in Melb are you? C&C and I are meeting up again on wed - tomorrow for a coffee just wondering if you are close?

A'sMummy

19-05-2009, 07:54

RTG and Solsen- Maybe we could change the venue closer to where Solsen lives if you're free, I am up for anything :yes:
And any other Melb mummys free tomorrow? More than welcome to join us!! I know PB is from melb, I am not sure who else....?

zephani

19-05-2009, 08:12

Solsen I agree with you. Katherine LOVES the shower! We have showered with her since she was one week old. She showered with DH while we were away on the weekend and if she wasn't getting under the water enough she would push of DH's chest and lean back under the water. She closes her eyes and loves water trickling over her head.

BM We dress Katherine in a long sleeve top and a sleeping bag. That keeps her roasty toasty.

AFM Katherine had a really bad day yesterday, which was disappointing. She was so perfect over the weekend and then yesterday she cried on and off from 6:30am till about 6:30pm. I'm wondering if she is going through a growth spurt. In the last week she has averaged 11 hours straight sleep every night. Last night she slept 12 hours straight from 7:30pm till 7:30am. I just hope that good sleeping doesn't mean grumbly days.

I'm really interested in solids as well. I really doubt that Katherine will last till 6 months before she starts solids. She already looks at us when we are eating. I bought two books 'Baby and Toddler Meals' by Robin Barker the author of Baby Love and Mighty Toddler. The other book is 'Feeding Your Baby and Toddler' by Annabel Karmel.

I rejoined the gym just over a week ago and have been 6 times. It feels great to be able to exercise again.

Time to go...we are off to Mother's Group this morning. Next week we go back to the Childhood Centre for older baby group. It's hard to believe that they will be 4 months old soon.

Have a great day all!

zephani

19-05-2009, 08:15

C&C and RTG We are visiting DH's parents in Melbourne from June 7th till June 13th. Maybe we could come to one of your meet ups if you get together while we are down there?

A'sMummy

19-05-2009, 08:34

Zephani- sounds like a good idea. I will be back at work as from the 1st of June, but will be very flexible with having time off ;)
I would love to meet some feb mummys!

parentingrocks

19-05-2009, 08:45

wow thanks for the offer ladies - I think I live pretty far from you though, C&C you live in Sunshine don't you?? I'm in ferntree gully - failry east. I could meet you anywhere though. Only thing is tomorrow I'm catching up with a friend in the mid morning for a walk so I can only do afternoon - otherwise I'll just come to the next catch up.
x

A'sMummy

19-05-2009, 08:55

Solsen- I live in Bacchus Marsh... thankfully not Sunshine!! ;) jk
But we will let you know next time we catch up and make in more central :)

Anya has started sleeping through the night now... I wonder if it will last or if it's just a growth spurt thing. She slept 7.30pm-7.30am last night.
Solids have been on my mind too, I am thinking of giving it a trial at around 5 months. Anya watches us eat dinner every night and looks at us like "why can't I have some?" :D
I am looking at getting a good book to read about introducing solids and food for children etc.
Zephani- you mentioned two books, is one better than the other in your opinion?

Oh and as for what we dress bubs in at night (sorry I can't remember who asked), Anya has a wondersuit or something similar with feet in it, then she has a long sleeved sleeping bag, and then a flannalette (sp) sheet which is tripled over on top. We also have central heating and I set it to around 18 over night.

Seacretsquirrel

19-05-2009, 10:23

Morning Ladies!

Glad most of us seem to be having better nights with our bubs, it is such a relief when we all get a bit more sleep :sleeping:
R goes to sleep in an all in one type suit (long arms and feet and I set the AC to 26/7 and no blankets are anything - he creeps all over his cot so he comes out of any covers that I put on him so I gave up so hence the long jammies I am sure it sounds strange to all of you southerners that I still have AC on but we are still getting 33 degree days Z has started asking for the AC to be off cause she was cold (hers is set to 26/7 too) so she sleeps in jsut summer jammies I think I am going to stop putting R's AC on too and dress him lighter but I need to sus out how cold it gets at night as to what he should be wearing - it is sooo hard!
anyway better run have a good day!:wave:

quitecontrary

19-05-2009, 11:30

Hello!
Gosh, talking about solids already!! Though I know I've got a little March baby I can't imagine needing to try him before 6 months. We started G at 5 months and she really wasn't interested (though she did start eating) til she was 7 months. We were in England with her, so that added an extra element to it, then we stopped entirely for the fortnight we were in China and she wasn't looking for it at all. She had gone slightly under where she had been on the graph, so the GP thought it would be a good idea to start solids.
Toby is around us for a lot of meals, and often up on someone's lap when we are out, so I think he'll work it out when the time comes!
Everything is fine here. I think both the kids are on the recovery end of the snuffly noses they've had, which is a relief. They are both asleep now so I should get on with the things I never actually get around to.

zephani

19-05-2009, 12:37

C&C I've read the Robin Barker book. It was good. Has recipes and discusses when to introduce certain foods.

I haven't read the Annabel Karmel book yet. It is on order. It should be here next week. It was recommended to me by a friend of mine from uni. When I've read it I let you know which one I think is better.

Ottersfriend

19-05-2009, 14:19

hi everyone
just a little about myself. DD a happy chubby cheeked little star. first baby good pregnancy with no probs. 39 weeks born feb 2009- seven hour drug free labour vag delivery public hospital - breastfeeding and loving it...
no sleep for first six weeks and then started nighttime routine. worked a treat. sleeping well now - wrapped up tight.
would love to make some online mummy friends.

Seacretsquirrel

19-05-2009, 16:52

QC I cant imagine R on solids yet either DD had her first a few days before 6 months and I'd say I be going the same way with R was chatting with the health nurse the other day and she was saying there is some research being done at the moment about starting solids much earlier (like around 10 weeks or something) in an effort to stop allergies - exposing kids to peanut better etc at that sort of age so they don't have matured (sort of) immune systems that will have the allergic reaction - she said there is no way she'd do it having herself and a child that need the epipens but it is interesting research none the less - I have also heard some speculation that part of what is causing all the allergies is that we avoid so much when pregnant and BF that babies aren't exposed to it and then when they finally are they have the immune response - which I suppose ties into the first lot of research but I can't imagine giving R peanut butter:no:
Food for thought though I suppose - excuse the pun.

We have had a productive sort of day today - clean floors which is a challenge ATM with no vacuum - DH has promised to fix it properly this time with solder and everything so I'm giving him 1 more chance to fix it before it goes to Dyson Heaven, but I bought a Vax little cordless thingo and it is pretty good so far good suck and it has a little pokey out tool (like the crevice tool on the big vacuums whcih is handy!)

Yikes R just rolled from Back to front all by himself:yelclap: clever little monkey likes his tummy better so decided if I wasn't obliging he'd do it all by himself!
anyway better go make some salad for our tea with "Nanna cheese" (fetta) as promised!

oh and welcome Ottersfriend look forward to getting to know you!

parentingrocks

19-05-2009, 17:10

welcome ottersfriend! what an interesting profile name! and i loved the introduction, sounds like you're doing well!

AFM - Charli has been spewing heaps today and had two quite 'explosive' poos that were fairly runny and i'm not sure why - i called the MCHN and she wants me to take her to the GP so we are going there soon. Charli is asleep though so I don't wanna wake her up to take her.. maybe I will go and just ask some advice anyway. Plus I still need to ask a GP a few questions about myself.. I have been getting spotting and slight period pain each month suggesting I have my cyle back but its not really much, almost just a 'rusty' type stain in my knickers just as a once off every now and again. Sorry for the TMI!! So I want to ask about that. On that topic - do any of you have your cycle back? Is it the same as before you were pregnant?

thanks in advance xxx

zephani

19-05-2009, 17:31

SS A women at my baby group found information about the allergy research on the internet. She said the research recommends starting solids at 4 months to prevent allergies, which is interesting for us as my DH is allergic to 3/4 of the pamphlet. The women from baby group has a pamphlet and is going to give me a copy. When I have it I'll scan it and email it to you if you PM me your email address.

It is interesting that you said that your health nurse was promoting the idea. We went to the drop in clinic last Wednesday (when we had Katherine weighed and measured) and the health nurse said that there hasn't been enough research in this area and that Area Health doesn't support the research so they are still recommending 6 months.

floodprincess

19-05-2009, 17:50

Evening All......

I'm so glad to see that most of us are having better times with our babies. I know for us this is a great time (all troubles aside) plenty of smiles and the beginning of words (I'm positive her first word will be yeah, she sounds it out when we say it and it's getting really close - wishful thinking perhaps:rolleyes:)

Well, after my sob re BF a couple of days ago we've worked out some strategies, but are now struggling to get her to happily take a bottle....go figure....she screams blue murder when me (or anyone else) sits down to give her a bottle, she fights and fights and fights...:hair: Ah well, I figure that while it's hard on my feelings and ears, she'll take it when she gets hungry enough. NOrmally I would have given up by now, but I have to go back work at the end of next week, so I won't be around during the day to offer a comfort boob.

Don't suppose any of you ladies who have had this problem have any words of wisdom??? DD1 took to the bottle like anything (after rejecting boob) so I have ZERO experience with this sort of thing.

Well DH has just served a beautiful chicken/chilli/jamsine rice dinner so I'm off to enjoy....have a great night!

Oh - sorry to rant on. We've been regularly dropping to below 10 deg here and our central heating threw in the towel last week; so we've been dressing Monique in a bonds wondersuit, wrapping in a mid-weight waffle wrap and in her cot she's got flannel sheets (top & bottom) 1 light polar fleece blanky and a light weight quilt.....she seems quite content (some nights I have had to pop an extra blanket on though because she's been cold)

floodprincess

19-05-2009, 17:52

do any of you have your cycle back?

Blissfully, on this topic - my answer is no! Although, on the TMI - I do get more discharge around the time I would normally expect my cycle.

When I had DD1 my cycle regulated itself fairly quickly and was about the same as it was prior....

Seacretsquirrel

19-05-2009, 18:50

Zephanie- The health nurse wasn't promoting it we were talking about the best time to start solids and she was just telling me that there was some new research suggesting that very early solids might help reduce allergies - but she said there is no way she'd be doing it esp the pnut butter as she has allergies herself and so does her son.

Solsen - no cycle here yet either I did get some spotting last month but nothing much really I was trying to remember when I got it back after Z but I just can't remember I think it was around the 3 or 4 month mark though so I am sure it will be back soon:rolleyes:

FP - sorry no help here I didn't give Z a bottle at all and hopefully won't have to give R one either. Good luck with it all though.

AFM - R rolled over today all by himself from back to front too which is the trickier one! :yelclap:
Bad news is that DH won't be home till Monday though which is a bit of a bummer but it does mean he won't be going to cairns to drive back with his mate which I am selfishly pleased about:D

Anyway off to have some tea myself now the kids are in bed - I really need to go buy myself a bottle of wine I could use a glass tonight!

Purplebird

19-05-2009, 19:21

I don't think I'll be giving solids early either. I started DD at 6 months and she was happy to play with food then. We did baby led weaning which was great fun and I'll go down that road again I think (sorry but you'll hear me bang on about it a bit :o). The new research sounds really interesting though. Cameron is also around us and on laps when we eat at times so I hope he'll be fine on the 'social' side of eating.

Thanks for the offer C&C - I would love to meet you and RTG (and any other mummies), but I am miles away (in Cheltenham)! Let me know though if you're doing anything central and would love the company of a two year old!

FP - DD didn't have many bottles until 6 months really. I found that she took them better from DH at first, not me. We also tried a couple of different brands. Pigeon are supposed to be very good - she took those reluctantly, but preferred the Tommy Tippee closer to Nature ones.

Solsen - no cycle return here. I was lucky and got mine at about 10 months last time. I so hope I am that lucky again.

SS - clever little man rolling! Cameron shows no signs of rolling at all. He's too busy grinning up at me! DD didn't roll until about 4 months plus I think so maybe Cam will be slow in that department too.

BM - To bed Cameron wears a wondersuit and a grobag - or some kind of sleeping bag (2.5 tog one in winter). I follow the advice on their charts and use the room thermometer that comes with them. Bit paranoid about overheating.

I'm loving all the grins I'm getting at the moment and the gurgling and chatting. So darn cute!

I'm just wondering whether to brave the shops tomorrow on my own. I could do with a bit of a look around, but DD is getting to be quite difficult to manage if she's not in the mood to comply (which is everyday). I went with the two of them last week but it was a struggle by the end and much food was needed for bribes! Oh well, I guess I'll just see what the morning brings.

QC - I want to get back to the gym soon which will mean leaving Cameron at the creche there. Do you try and time your sessions during Toby's 'awake' time or does he sleep for them?

sweetseven

19-05-2009, 19:47

Solsen: Good to hear you've found a possible solution to her feeding problems. I wish you support and strength through this trying time.

ALHmum: Of course you can, welcome. I only joined myself earlier this month and everyone has made me feel like I belong. I hope you have a similar experience.

baylismum: Bub has a long-sleeved sleeping bag, or if it is in the wash, she'll go down in an all-in-one suit with feet. However if she doesnt have the sleeping bag, her feet are so cool in the mornings. Either way, she is covered with a crotcheted woolen blanket. And why are we not suposed to use bonjela? Did I miss something?

Solsen: With both this one and the last, they've watched me, and everyone else eat from two months of age. The last one made me feel so guilty every time I ate something because I wasn't sharing it with her. I waited until four months with the last one, and I intend to do the same this time. However this time her stares arent so demanding as curious as to what this whole eating thing is about.
As for cycle, I had one at 4 weeks, but nothing since then.

Ottersfriend: Welcome. *smiles* The more the merrier.

SS: Yikes, I remember sweeping carpets when the vaccum failed, not a fun experience.

FP: When I was expressing delight at my little bubs smiles today, she starting repeating the "ahhh" sound. It is amazing to think that she was deliberately making a specific noise so early.

As for how today went, I had a full day planned to take advantage of the teachers strike.

First up was a trip to the dentist. I had gone Nov last year and was told they needed an Xray first so to come back after I had had my baby. So today, I get up nice and early, express a bottle for her, and head off. They are short-staffed, no receptionist and only two assistants to support three dentists. An assistant sends me off to get my X-Ray and instructs me to knock on the door then tell the radiologist that she cannot print a form because they dont have a receptionist and will fix it up in the afternoon. I knock on the door and it isn't answered. I repeat every 10 minutes until eventually another staff member comes up to me. I explain I'm here for radiology and she tells me that the radiologist isn't in yet. About 20 minutes later, the radiologist arrives and starts complaining to other staff members that half of the contents of her desk (including part of her computer) are missing. She speaks to me and says that she cannot do the Xray without the information from the form, and even if she had it couldn't input it into her computer at the moment anyway. So I return to the dentist to see what they can do. The assistant sends me to a dentist to see what he wants to do. He decides to do the filling (for the cavity I complained about six months ago) and get the Xray next time. Whilst he is working on it, he keeps commenting on how deep it is, and I keep thinking it is probably only that deep because it was left to grow for another six months. I dont say anything but am feeling rather let down.

I return home to find DD2 has pulled off her cast. So the rest of the days plans are cancelled. I feed bub, then take DD2 to Queensland Xray, return home, feed bub again, and then off to the doctor. Whilst getting her Xray, I start to wonder if it would've been possible for my dental Xray to be done there, and regret that I dont have a referral for one. Then off to the doctors, where he says it is healing but not healed. DD2 starts begging him not to put another cast on. He turns it back on her saying that it makes no difference to him whether her arm breaks again, it is her that'll have to live with the consequences. Left without an argument she submits to another cast.

Purplebird

19-05-2009, 20:03

Oh what a day Tiera! There's me wondering whether I can manage the shops with two and you cope with seven of the little darlings. Makes me feel like a whinger :o

There was some 'thing' about bonjella being unsafe. I paid no attention as I never used it anyway! I think the sm33 gel is good, as is the Brauers stuff.

I hope your day is a bit better tomorrow.

Seacretsquirrel

19-05-2009, 20:22

Tiera3 - I think you are amazing too I like PB complain about facing the shops with 2 although Z is a shopper from way back and askes every day if we are going but it usually involves me keeping her fed to keep her happy. Snacks are a godsend if I need to get stuff done!:yelclap:
:oI don't have any carpets at all :o(only 1 small rug in DD's room) so not such an onerous (sp?) task as sweeping carpets! :D but a royal PITA none the less. but all swept and moped now so feel heaps better about the house now for the hopeless task of keeping that way till DH gets home and fixes the vacuum.

floodprincess

19-05-2009, 21:10

:) and so I find myself drawn back to the hub...lol....

DH is on the other computer looking at youtube stuff, so I've fired up the laptop to occupy myself now that both kids are tucked up in bed!

I've just bought two Tomee Tippee 'closer to nature' bottles (just read your post PB) going to see how they pan out....will be calling an LC/CHN tomorrow to discuss!

I see the subject of solids has come up...I've been thinking bout this too. DD1 started plain farex and teething rusks around 3 1/2 - 4 months. DD2 will probably be on the Farex by about 4 mths as well - she's always around us when we're eating and not only does she show great interest and curiosity, but she now 'mouths' while we are eating - you know, mimics the chewing action.....we're lucky though, no known food allergies in either side of the family!

Am jealous of those who can get to the gym....I was looking at my 'figure' today and love the flatness of my tummy just below my boobs....then it all goes to some kind of jello cross custard mix - blech (but i have two beautiful girls to show for it)...was thinking I should do something about it asap...and then wished that the exercise dvds I bought on ebay would hurry up and show (I've got almost a full gym here at home and whilst I can use all the equipment, I have very little idea how to increase use to any real benefit)..

Oh well.....this time I'm logging off for the night...DH just suggested some snuggles under a warm blanket with a good movie and a glass of wine - might take him up on that offer ;) have a great night (sorry you're missing your DH SS...hope you have him in your arms soon)

sweetseven

20-05-2009, 07:59

PB I generally try to avoid taking all seven to the shops, typically going with 2-4 younger ones.

DD1 (aged 15) is complaining about her tummy, something she's never been happy with but she's really feeling that it is a little rounded now. She is not fat at all (regardless of how many times she claims she is) but has definately developed into a young woman. Just this past year her body has filled out and she is not a little girl anymore.

Bub was fussing at the boob last night and they didnt feel full at all. I had some of the EBM left from my trip to the dentist yesterday morning, so I fed her that. This is the first time I've seen her taking a bottle. (All other times it has been because I wasn't present.)

It was very slow going. She took half an hour to drink about 50ml, and seemed really drowsy and ready to drop off the whole time. However, as soon as the bottle was empty, her eyes sprung wide open. I cuddled her a little longer, but she showed no signs of settling. Since it was 12:30 at night, I opted to just try going to bed.

I put her in the cot and sung to her, but she just kept whinging. As her complaints go closer to a cry, I thought I would try her in bed with me. She held tightly to my finger and alternated between whinges and sucking on her hands. I trid suckling her, but after barely a minute of strong sucking on each breast, she seemed to conclude they were empty and started fussing again. I was really tired so asked DP to sit up with her so I could get some rest (and thus give ideal circumstances for milk production).

What feels like only five minutes later, I become aware of whinging from the cot again. Still really tired, and DP nowhere to be seen, I drag myself out of bed and choose to use the bathroom before picking her up. Upon my return, she is quiet. I check the time; 2:27am, so looks like I had got some sleep after all. DP is at his computer and says that he's all wired now and not up to sleeping. I return to bed.

My alarm wakes me in the morning, but I'm still tired and it is still raining. It was set for 5:30am, but it is 7:10am before I finally drag myself out of bed and start waking children. DD5 has an excursion that she doesnt want to miss, so gets up to get ready. DD3 has a very mild temp and asks to stay home; considering the rain I acqiesse. DD1 is feeling out of sorts and doesnt want to go to school either, and DD2 is afraid of getting her new cast wet. DD4 is "not feeling well" either.

DD5 is at school, but her excursion has been cancelled due to the weather. DD3, DD4, & DD6 are curled up on the couch watching cartoons. bub woke up with a dry nappy and my breasts didnt feel full this morning. However she fed without difficulty, and is now sitting happily on my lap. DD1&2 are still in bed, and the rain comes pouring down.

ALHmum

20-05-2009, 08:08

Morning all :wave:
All this rain is getting a bit too much:rain:. My poor little sausage is sleeping all day. I'm sure she thinks she's waking up and its still nightime it's so dark. But she still slept from 6pm to 7am yay! I thought it might change her sleep patterns but all is good :fingerscrossed:.
Only problem i have now is getting her clothes dry when they are washed. DH thinks we don't need a dryer so I'm trying to tough it out to show him that yes we definately need one. Our house currently looks like a chinese laundry with clothes hanging everywhere. And they don't ever get properly dry with all the moisture in the air. Oh well he might change his tune when he's the one who has to wear wet clothes to work.
I went to the Dr the other day for DD checkup. And the Dr was talking about solids. First time mum so was a little wary as all the books etc say 4-6months and today she turned 3 months. But i see that a few of you here have tried solids early and seem to have had no problems. She's not really showing any interest so might just hold off. She was 4 wks prem too.
Oh well i'd best go wash our stinky never-gonna-dry towels and see how long they take to dry. Just gotta find a place to hang them.
Bloody rain :rain::hair:

YMo7

20-05-2009, 08:11

just thought i would pop in and say hi... see how you are all doing.... :)

YMo7

20-05-2009, 08:18

tiera3 - any tips to coping with so many kids?

sweetseven

20-05-2009, 08:32

I didn't think any of us had actually started solids yet, but are just at the thinking about it stage.

I'm planning on four months, and a couple of others seem to be talking along those lines. Talking about previous children, one lady mentioned 3� months and another I think 7 months.

As for the makeshift chinese laundry, I find turning a fan on helps considerabley. We had the fan on to dry the nappies last night.

Re: tips for so many kids. It depends on which aspect you are asking about. For example when out, I'll pair them up, DD1&5, DD2&6, DD3&4 and they have to hold hands with their partner. This makes them less likely to scatter, and easier to catch when they do.

janiceg

20-05-2009, 08:34

7 kids...
you girls are amazing!!!

YMo7

20-05-2009, 08:40

tiera3 - i was more saying the day to day things like feeding them, sports, discipline, playing, etc.

we run off routine and rosters mostly...

Lateralus

20-05-2009, 09:32

Morning ladies...
:wave: hi YMO7 was only thinking a few days ago that we hadn't see you for a while - hope everything is going well!
tiera3 what a day - and doesn't sound like today is shaping up to be too crash hot either.. Hope it gets better for you! I am in awe of all you ladies with multiple kidletts to look after. We are hard pressed looking after 1!! :laughing:
Solson no AF here yet - although have had a bit of tinged discharge in the past few days! I am SO hoping I can avoid it for another few months - at least until I stop breast feeding!!
FP could you try feeding Monique from a cup if she won't take a bottle? A few of the girls from Mum's group do it and say it's surprisingly easy and quick. Bub sort of laps the milk like a kitten would? Worth a try if you get really stuck when you're heading back to work?!

I can't remember who was commenting about Bub's getting allergies to things that Mum avioded during pregnancy - but it's interesting - I had an aversion to Milk when I was pregnant, and now Zoe is dairy intolerant! BUT - I did eat cheese and yoghurt - so I am not sure how that works?!

Well, Zoe had her biggest, longest, most impressive screaming session last night. We went to a friends place for dinner (luckily they have a Bub too so they were totally understanding) and she screamed for 3 hours solid without drawing a breath it would seem. Poor chook. Then as soon as we got home, she settled to sleep and slept without a peep for 6 hours soild - cheeky monkey. It was horrible when she was so upset though - She hasn't screamed that long or hard since the first week we had her home and she wasn't getting enough food :( But - she seems ok now... We're putting it down to over-tiredness and unfamiliar surroundings.

It's pi$$ing down here today, so we're going to have a PJ day - The cats have to go for their vaccinations, but Zoe and I have decided to send DH out into the rain with them while we stay rugged up warm and dry at home! :rain:

Lateralus

20-05-2009, 09:36

oh, and I know I was asking about solids before, but we're not thinking of starting Z on solids any time soon. I think the WHO guidelines still say 6 months, so we'll aim for around then. I suspect that that 6 month mark will come around pretty quickly though, so just want to start thinking about it!:)

ardora

20-05-2009, 14:50

Hello!

mmm... all of this talk about solids really makes me realise how little idea i have... I haven't really thought about it and was thinking of going along with recommendations and do it at 6 months. It is however, interesting the research showing less allergies if introduced earlier... I guess it will depend on whether baby's digestive track is ready or not?

AF - well, i don't really know, I had kind of a period in the beggining of April and then a bit of spotting when ovulation should have happened and nothing since then... :fingerscrossed: it stays like this!

Gym - I am thinking of joining an exercise group where I can take G with me. I might join next week!! I really NEED to start feeling comfortable with myself again.. I am mostly back to my pre-pregnancy weight but I am definitely unfit.

AFM I started expressing so I can leave baby with someone (no childcare spot as yet) while I go to work two days a week in June. I am managing about 60 ml each time I express so it takes me a while to collect enough for a feed... does anyone know how much milk should be offered to the baby the first time that EBM is given?

Have a nice day - here the weather is miserable so I am staying at home catching up with professional and domestic work.

:goodvibes:

floodprincess

20-05-2009, 18:50

Evening All...

Adora - far be it for me to really comment, but I'd be inclined to offer baby as much EBM as you can comfortably express. The first time Monique was offered a bottle was while we were in hospital and we were having trouble feeding because of her arm - she was offered 20ml (which was what I was told she needed on day 2 for a full feed). I'm expressing quite often now in preparation to go back to work, so each bottle has as close to a full feed as possible (and I'm estimating using a comment someone made a while back that bubs at our age need about 130 - 150ml).

It can take some time to work out how to relax etc enough to express a full feed, so don't stress about 'how much' straight away and just keep working at it (I'm exhausted and feel like a moo, but we're getting there).

AND positive news on our bottle feeding front - we've been using the newly bought Tomee Tippee 'closer to nature' bottles and they seem to have done the trick :yelclap: she fusses when mum goes to feed her, but took it twice from me today with the only fussing being that she had to wait for food (this kid, when she wants to eat she wants it NOW) so :goodvibes: we can keep it up!!

As for solids - I've not heard much on the allergy debate before (it was barely spoken about when we were introducing solids to DD1) and after today, I'm still going to try introducing farex in a few weeks (someone reached for my spoon of cereal this morning).

Oh, and while I'm here tying up your time.....Monique shows absolutely ZERO interest in rolling (not even to her side) but she's constantly trying to pull herself into a sitting position - anyone else expereince this or do I just breed weird but very loveable kids??? lol

Have a great night ladies - hope everyone (esp. Kate comes to mind) is well and truly out of the flood zones up north!! I'm thinking I may swing straight into operations when I return to work depending on what happens.....so much for a nice easy hand back I was hoping for!!

OneCheekyMonkey

21-05-2009, 02:03

Gosh I haven't read the whole thread because I have missed so much. I did see something about solids though and I think I am going to go down the baby led path.

Dane is not interested at all in food, I don't see why he would either since he is obviously thriving on milk (little porker is almost 9 kilos). I figure around the 6-8 month mark when he is interested. Plus I prefer to not carry around spoons and food and whatnot :yes:

D can lift his head up now from the cot, lying on his back, he can also lift his entire chest off the ground during tummy time but seems to have no interest in rolling :confused:. I figure if he can do the above two things with no problem then he should be strong enough to roll? Which is easiest, front to back? or back to front? He has a lot of tummy time/play time with me on a rug on the floor so I know that he is getting enough time.....

Annoyingly he is also doing "pull ups" in his carseat. Little monkey holds onto the side straps and pulls himself forward from the hips. I have tried telling him that it is dangerous but he just giggles at me :laughing:

We now have a nighttime routine, I avoided one for a while but he kind of fell into it himself. Bath at 5, last feed between 5.30-6. Then he settles into his big sleep period between 6-8am. No he does not sleep that long! He has a lot of wake ups but having slightly more predictable days is nice.

Whoever said that their bub loves the shower D isn't too fussed, but he is such a long bub that the bath is getting a bit tricky. He widens his eyes and looks up at the falling water but then gets grumpy with pools of water in his eyes. Silly boy.

He is asleep right now but I have the early symptoms of mastitis so am up waiting for the panadol to kick in. Argh, annoying.

BM - I put dane in a cotton jumpsuit and a medium weight cotton sleeveless sleeping bag. If the sleeping bags are in the wash I put him in a polar fleece onsie which seems perfect by itself. He has not been wrapped since we left the hospital as he fights to get his hands out and put them above his head :)

Seacretsquirrel

21-05-2009, 07:24

OCM - Wow 9ks that is a good boobie fed weight!!! Did you come to a decision about Dane's needles?? I can't imagine it would have been easy either way and I am jsut being nosy:D.
With Rolling I think from tummy to back is easier but I think it depends how bubs spends more time R does a lot of time on his tummy and has been flipping himself fom tummy for a while (not sure if it was just a couple of flukes though) and turned from his back to his tummy the other day but I think it was more that he hates being on his back so decided if I wouldn't comply and turn him over (I was busy with DD and cooking tea and ignoring his crankiness) he'd do it himself - He almost did it last night too got himself onton his side but not all the way over.

I had a but of a rough night last night but more to do with my going to bed late and having trouble getting back to sleep after R's feeds.

Prob not a nice thought at breakfast but to those who are BF how "solid" are your bubs poo's - I jsut can't remember if Z's were still so liquidy at 3 months but R's are just liquid and most annoyingly tend to pour out the top of his nappy if he is lying down (huggies sposies)

anyway off to make some cupcakes to take to a GF's for morning tea so I better get onto it!

parentingrocks

21-05-2009, 07:57

SS - yes I have the same liquid poos here! And Charli tends to leak every now and again because her poos come out so fast its like the nappy doesn't have time ti absorb it it just fires right up the back! I just make sure the nappy is done up nice and firm to avoid leaks, I found when I switched from newborn size to infant size I got more leaks because they were so much bigger, but now I do them up fairly tight (but not too tight) it has been less leaks.

Thanks for everyones responses re: periods. Sorry for the TMI again......... but last night DP and I DTD and I bled afterwards a bit, just fresh looking blood on the tiolet paper after going to the toilet.. little bit worried. I did have a c section so no real damage to my 'area' but things still don't feel 100% normal since being oregnant - possibly the weight of the baby when I was pregnant or something had an affect on me.. I found DTD during pregnancy got painful towards the end because I felt like my cervix was really low. Now that buubs is out I'm not sure why I bled, esp since DTD wasn't painful at all during it. So so so so so sorry for the TMI just need to ask these things!!!!

Today I am off to get a cut and colour - can't wait! Mum is watching charli, I got up during the night to express a bottle for her to fed Charil with.
Charli slept from 9pm - 7am which is close to a record here! Especially since she didn't need settling at any stage during the night. Usually she sleeps that long but she will wake at 2/3am and need to be patted back of to sleep, whereas last night it was a solid stretch of sleep, so pretty impressed with that!

Well I better be off. Thanks for listening to my gross questions! Sorry about them!

Purplebird

21-05-2009, 08:56

I'm so fed up with having cold feet! (and being sleep deprived, but that's another matter!). Oh well, it should warm up later so that i can get my nappies dry. I still think I need to convince DH about our need for a dryer.

Solsen - sorry, I can't really help with your question as I've had 2 vbs and I can certainly say things don't feel the same downstairs any more :laughing: Maybe a quick trip to the GP or maybe it is just the return of your cycle?

Mr Cameron is going for another appointment at the chiro today to finish off his minor head adjustments. He should end up with a perfect and splendidly shaped head now! Today is my 'guilty pleasure' day without the toddler, so when the chiro is over, Cam and I will head to the shops so I can have an uninterrupted chai whilst he sleeps in the Ergo. Bliss! See you all later.

Purplebird

21-05-2009, 08:59

SS - I forgot to say that I'm pretty sure the liquid poos continued until 6 months when we added a few veggies etc into DD's diet. Mr C's certainly are very runny still. They are also staining all my lovely nappies and the sun isn't out long enough to bleach them. GRR! :)

sweetseven

21-05-2009, 09:30

YMo7 Discipline is currently a bit of a problem. DD2 is really starting to throw her weight around and discipline the younger ones. And I'm having difficulty reigning her in. I believe in positive reinforcement, and not making a big deal about negatives but instilling consequences. For example, DD6 has recently started having accidents (urinating) all over the place. She gets sent to the toilet and she also has to have some part in cleaning it up (not a big part because she is only 2�yrs). DD2 follows her to the toilet and starts yelling at her that she's an idiot. And when I pull her up on it her response is, you weren't doing anything, so I'm trying something.

KateJo re food allergies and a pregnant womans diet, I heard the opposite interpretation, that it was due to the baby being allergic to these foods that caused the mother to avoid them during pregnancy (either instictively or by making her feel ill). It seems to apply for preferences as well. Fo example, when I was pregnant with DD3, I wanted lots of lollies and sweets and chocolates, and she has a real sweet tooth.

Also, yesterday was pretty good, except for when it got to 1pm and I had realised we had forgotten playgroup. Last night the news said to avoid all non-essential travel, so we opted to skip school today. Had a sleep in and there is no rain all day. I guess the girls will be going to school tomorrow.

mummyJ

21-05-2009, 09:40

Hi girls...I have been MIA for a while...Was struggling to keep up with you :ecomcity:!! :laughing:

PB - I have now gone full time cloth...and now it's raining!!! Do I just wait until a sunny day to put the cloth nappies that have gotten a bit stained in the sun to bleach them? Will they still come out if its not straight away?? Also what position is C in the ergo? I have had L sitting on her feet because she is so big. I still use the infant insert though. What age can I have her in properly??

Solsen - I didnt get AF back until DS fully weaned himself at just under a year.

SS - yep - liquid poos are still in action!

I weighed L on Monday...She was 7.5kg at 11 weeks!!! She is such a little boom-bah!!
I have had a bit of a shocker of a week! DS has had gastro and DD got a cold...Not nice. I still managed to work all my hours this week which was amazing...Just around all their sleeps and stuff. DS is still unwell, although I think we might be kicking it!! I thought the explosive diarrea would never end!! haha TMI!! Thank God none of the rest of us got it!!
DH's dad has been unwell...He had his pancreas (sp?) removed last year as he had pancreatic cancer. He then had chemo, but it looks like cancer is back...It's one of the most aggressive forms of cancer, so it will be inoperable now...So this might be the last year that our kids have their grandfather which is so very sad!
Hope to keep up with you all!! I'll try my best!!!

A'sMummy

21-05-2009, 10:15

Hi Ladies,
MummyJ- When it's been raining I have hung my cloth nappies on a clothes horse infront of a window and that has given them enough sunlight to get the stains out previously. As for the ergo, I did have Anya in the normal position (legs wrapt around me) but her legs weren't quite long enough, so I have changed to a side saddle type position (both legs on one side) without an infant insert. It seems to work fine. Oh and well done on the 7.5kg!! Excellent work :thumbsup:

Solsen- I have my AF back... had it back at around 9 weeks, although it's not regular at all, I have been spotting on and off. I have also had the Mirena IUD inserted, so this also might have something to do with the spotting. Enjoy your cut and colour! I had my hair cut and coloured last Friday and felt fantastic afterwards :D

AFM- Nothing exciting here. Everything seems to be going along smoothly with Anya. I am not looking forward to going back to work in just over a week though :( But the extra money will be very helpful!
We had Anya weighed on Monday (12wks) and she was 5.9kg which is fantastic as she was only born 3.0kg... so she has almost doubled :thumbsup:

Well I better be off, have some washing to hang out. Have a lovely day all! :sunshine:

AnthonysMama

21-05-2009, 10:58

Hey all, ive been mia as well, i have gone back to work full time and as i work in an office alone DS comes with me, joy oh joy, FINALLY LAST FRIDAY i was operated on they found that at the top of my uterus was a piece of placenta that was left behind, i feel so much better now, kind of like a new woman, Little man is going to go into his own room tonight as we have brought an angel care monitor, im very sad about this as i have gotten used to him sleeping in our room but its time for him to spread his little wings i guess, had him weighed last thursday and hes 6kg so hes putting it on slowly but surely, he started farex baby rice last night as the little bugger is constantly hungry, spoke with my GP and he said it was fine as long as it was really sloppy! Sorry to hear about everyone having DH problems my super Dh is being a bit of an *** at the moment too but i think hes just cranky because of the weather and he cant get outside after work and do stuff, hope everyone that is feeling sick feels better soon too...

have a lovely day girls

Purplebird

21-05-2009, 14:03

ardora

21-05-2009, 17:58

Hi everyone...

No personals today -sorry! G had an extensive melt down after refusing eating all day...

So he ate well at 3am (first time ever he woke up in the middle of the night) and then at 7:30h... since then, he ate 5-10 minutes at 11h and 5-10 minutes at 14h and 5 minutes at about 17:00 and then proceeded to have gigantic melt down for an hour or so. My breasts hurt because they have not been emptied today (he normally takes 15-20 mins from one breast and about 10 mins from the second) but I don't want to express in case he wakes up hungry....

What would you do??
:goodvibes:

AnthonysMama

21-05-2009, 18:39

MummyJ - Cam has nearly reached the 7 kg mark so he is in the Ergo with his feet around me. I only tried it today and it went well. Previously he was in the Baby Bjorn, but I find that really uncomfortable now and Cam doesn't like it. As for the stains, any time you see some sunshine whip the nappies onto the line! It will do the job even if they're older stains. It's nice and bright this arvo so I will do the same!

AM - glad to hear you're feeling better now.

Cam went well at the chiro - he said C shouldn't even need any Infants Friend now so that is good. It hasn't helped his sleep though - little bugger had a late night last night and now he keeps waking every 10 minutes (day sleeps).

Anyone else have a catnapper who just will not go past 40 minutes sleep during the day??? It's so frustrating :hair:

Purple - Ant is a catnapper from way back, he sleeps for not even 20 minutes sometimes and that suits him fine, sometimes he wakes up and wants to be fed straightaway other times he just wants to lie under his play gym and bash his toys!!

is anyone else teaching their bubs to hold things and grab things yet? DS is slowly picking it up but he keeps hitting himself in the noggan poor thing!

Seacretsquirrel

21-05-2009, 18:45

Ardora - I would express just enough so that you are not too uncomfotable that way there is still enough milk incase he wakes but you are not in agony! Also I found that if Zahlia was really overwrought and wouldn't feed (don't have that issue with little piggy boy) I'd run a nice warm bath and sit in to feed her (or a warm shower if you prefer just sit in the bottom with the water running over you both) I found it was nice and relaxing for me and her and she'd often calm down enough to have a good feed.

PB - glad the chiro is going well!
Teira - Yikes with the discipline issues - something we all have to look forward to I guess!

Mummy J welcome back so glad R is not the only one with really watery poos it is a relief to have someone else with the same thing (all my GF bottle fed so I I can't ask them and I couldn't remember from Miss Z)

AM - poor you with the surgery stuff I supposes at least it is sorted now and you can get on with it all finally.

Fairly quite day here went to a GF for morning tea then played for the arvo (and fought with miss Z over white board markers on walls and the TV screen grrrrrr) she is supposed to be asleep but is still chatting away in her room (I am choosing to ignore it for now)
anyhoo of to fold more laundry (does it ever end?)

OneCheekyMonkey

21-05-2009, 20:05

D is a terrible cat napper during the day. THe only way he sleeps longer than 20 mins is if he is in the ergo.

SS - I am waiting to hear from the childrens hospital, we will vax him on a schedule they recommend under supervision. No matter what anyone says about him having his own immune system I am just not comfortable enough to vax at the local clinic. :no: He is a tubba, my arms hurt now holding him without a carrier ! I wish he was big enough to sit on my hip.

We bought a jumperoo today, its a free standing thing that is less jumpy like and more wobbly with toys to grab and lights and sounds. I have put it in front of a mirror and he likes wobbling about in it watching himself. I love ebay :) new these things are 200 which I cannot justify for a short lived toy but I got it for 36.

Wow, I can't believe our babies are starting solids already!

Ohhh the explosive runny bright yellow poos that shoot out the top of the nappy? Check! I find they leak out the side if they are really big ones too. Luckily D only poos every 2-4 days.

D is in a really nice bedtime routine now, bath at 5, last play and feed, asleep by 6-630. Wheee for routine !

:D

floodprincess

21-05-2009, 21:37

Hi Ladies!!

Explosive, runny yellow poos that go EVERYWHERE - check...

Catnapper - check, although we are getting better!

Teaching to hold, grab & reach for things - check...

:)

Ahh it's funny how kids develop; as I mentioned before Monique has zero interest in rolling, but loves trying to pull herself into a sitting position!

Anyways, only a quick post tonight - Monique fell asleep around 1600 today (after barely sleeping all mornign) and she hasn't stirred since!! :eek: am wondering at what abysmal hour of the morning she's going to wake for a change and a feed (considering both were last done around 1530)...

Have a great night!

natski

21-05-2009, 21:45

Hi girls,

Have tried to catch up, but am ready for bed now so haven't read the last few pages. Just wanted to say 'Hi' and put my two cents in as usual :)

Welcome to the newbies, hope you enjoy your stay here :)

Big hugs to those of you still having BF and sleeping issues :hugs: and any other crappy days out there.

AFM, yes I got AF back at 10 weeks, and I got them back at 8 weeks with DS! Thanks! And I'm even noticing when I ovulate with the discharge (sorry for TMI). It was actually really funny, we conceived Olivia this time last year (on the 18-20 May) and I was ovulating this week too - same time as last year! How bizarre! Maybe it's a sign that we should go for no. 3???? I wonder if I could 'trick' DH into it! mwahahaha (evil laugh)!

Regarding solids, we didn't start DS until a couple of days before he was 6 months, he was ready then and not anytime before. I was hoping to do the same with Miss O. It takes a while anyway to introduce all the different types of foods anyway.

I see a few of you Melbourne mummies are getting together. Are any of you Sydney mums interested in organising a meet-up for a coffee or a play in the park or something (when the weather gets better of course)???

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Got all the housework done today except for the floors so I'll tackle them tomorrow after Kindergym!!! Oh, we went to The Wiggles yesterday - oh, it was SO EFFIN FANTASTIC! We had a ball, and because it was at an RSL, it was much more intimate and we could actually see them! James had such a good time...never thought I'd say it, but 'I LOVE THE WIGGLES' haha!

Have fun everyone xx

floodprincess

21-05-2009, 22:40

I see a few of you Melbourne mummies are getting together. Are any of you Sydney mums interested in organising a meet-up for a coffee or a play in the park or something (when the weather gets better of course)???

I'd be up for it!

ardora

22-05-2009, 07:17

Good morning!

Well, I was dreading the night but G was a really good boy and slept 9pm to 4:30h and he is still sleeping now :thumbsup:... we did wake up to the sounds of him pushing a big poo at 6:30h in the morning though... that was a real poonami!! he made three poonamis and then proceeded to make aother one while I was changing him and it ended up on the floor.. JOY!

So, liquid, yellow explosive poos... BIG CHECK!

Cat napper during the day? it comes and goes, he sometimes sleeps for an hour or two and other times only 20 minutes here and there.... it depends how good/bad his reflux is that day.

Also, I really admire everyone on cloth... I don't seem to be able of washing all of pur clothes, sheets, etc....

Who said something about an IUD? I have been considering one. My experience with the pill was pretty bad, gained weight (that I never lost afterwards) and lost libido so it was pointless... I don't want to mess with my hormones- they drive me crazy as they are ;) So, if you have one, what is your experience? would you recomend one?

For sleeping, I put G on a one piece that has feet with a singlet bodysuit underneath. I use a light wrap and then put him unde a fleece blanket. I found that he sleeps better if he is warm, so I have been going a bit against SIDS recomendations... nobody smokes near G so the risk is very low.

Re- rolling and grabbing. He is doing pretty well here, he rolls from tummy to back but not the other way around (he almost did it yesterday but it was during the melt down, so it does not count). And I did not have to teach him to grab... he snatched something out of my hand! I will have to teach him manners!! :D

Well, let's see how we go today, I hope he eats well, otherwise I might find myself in the bath with him (thanks SS).

I hope everyone is safe after (during?) the wild weather!

:goodvibes:

ardora

22-05-2009, 07:20

Well, I don't really know how to multi quote and don't know how this is going to work. But yes, it could be good to meet a few of you :)

I'd be up for it!

Hi girls,

Have tried to catch up, but am ready for bed now so haven't read the last few pages. Just wanted to say 'Hi' and put my two cents in as usual :)

Welcome to the newbies, hope you enjoy your stay here :)

Big hugs to those of you still having BF and sleeping issues :hugs: and any other crappy days out there.

AFM, yes I got AF back at 10 weeks, and I got them back at 8 weeks with DS! Thanks! And I'm even noticing when I ovulate with the discharge (sorry for TMI). It was actually really funny, we conceived Olivia this time last year (on the 18-20 May) and I was ovulating this week too - same time as last year! How bizarre! Maybe it's a sign that we should go for no. 3???? I wonder if I could 'trick' DH into it! mwahahaha (evil laugh)!

Regarding solids, we didn't start DS until a couple of days before he was 6 months, he was ready then and not anytime before. I was hoping to do the same with Miss O. It takes a while anyway to introduce all the different types of foods anyway.

I see a few of you Melbourne mummies are getting together. Are any of you Sydney mums interested in organising a meet-up for a coffee or a play in the park or something (when the weather gets better of course)???

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Got all the housework done today except for the floors so I'll tackle them tomorrow after Kindergym!!! Oh, we went to The Wiggles yesterday - oh, it was SO EFFIN FANTASTIC! We had a ball, and because it was at an RSL, it was much more intimate and we could actually see them! James had such a good time...never thought I'd say it, but 'I LOVE THE WIGGLES' haha!

Have fun everyone xx

zephani

22-05-2009, 07:27

I live on the Central Coast near Wyong, but I'd love to come down at least once for a Sydney meet.

I'll update more later...we've had a crazy week.

AnthonysMama

22-05-2009, 07:43

I live on the Central Coast near Wyong, but I'd love to come down at least once for a Sydney meet.

I'll update more later...we've had a crazy week.

zeph your pretty close to my mum shes at gorokan, id be up for a meet too im in sydney (most of the time that is) i love escaping up to mums for the day i get to play with my 5 month old niece and mum steals ant from me for a while....

hope everyone has a great day im off to brave this weather!

megaminz

22-05-2009, 09:34

gizmoduckus

22-05-2009, 11:12

just poppin in quickly cause i am excited to announce MILAN IS SLEEPING ON THE SHEEPSKIN ON HIS OWN!!! woohoo hasn't slept out of my lap during the day for ages

i dont care how long it lasts its a step forward

:smiliedance: That's great news MM. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come.

Not too much happening here. L had been really settled the last couple of weeks so we trialed halving his reflux medication. Bad idea! He has gone from being content to miserable again. Have put him back up to his usual dosage again so hopefully it won't be long before it kicks in again.

I can't believe that he is going to be 4 months this weekend. The time has just flown. I weighed him yesterday and was happy to see that he is now 7.7kgs. :eek: He is bigger than DS1 was at this age.

At the moment I am watching him on his playmat trying to roll. He still hasn't quite got it yet but I don't think that he is that far off. He has also getting better at grabbing at his toys. It is so cute to watch him get excited when he manages to snag one. :D

Well that is all from me. Hope you girls have a lovely day today.

quitecontrary

22-05-2009, 11:56

Hi! Just a quick one, T is the bouncer chattering away to himself, and G is in bed. So what I really need to be doing is tidying up and getting T into the cot so I can have a nap too. Today I'm actually going to do it, I've been far too tired the last couple of days.
Sydney and Surrounds Mums, I'd love to catch up! Things are a little more entertaining for me with the toddler, but it should be fine. With G's bubhub mums we used to meet up in the city - great for public transport for everyone.
MM yay for Milan actually sleeping by himself!
Nat glad you loved the Wiggles - I am yet to be taken by them, G changes her mind on them but seems to enjoy the show.
Gizmo good to hear that Liam is settling down a bit for you.

Hmm, AF - hasn't reappeared here, but am kind-of expecting an appearance in the next month or so. I think with G AF was back around 4 months, and much much heavier than ever before. Nothing to do with the amount of bf-ing I was doing! In fact I bf-ed til I was about 24 weeks pg with Toby, and only stopped when G stopped wanting it.
All is fine here. G slept til 6.40 this morning, and I never thought I'd say this but it felt like sleeping-in! She was so good until the end of daylight savings, she used to sleep til 7/7.30, then with the change it was 6am or earlier. Toby has been just lovely. Nothing really to report from him I have to say!

zephani

22-05-2009, 12:22

zeph your pretty close to my mum shes at gorokan, id be up for a meet too im in sydney (most of the time that is) i love escaping up to mums for the day i get to play with my 5 month old niece and mum steals ant from me for a while....

AM I live in Blue Haven. So you're Mum is right near me! Let me know when you are heading up this and we could met up if you'd like.

natski

22-05-2009, 13:04

Hi girls,

Well, Olivia is 4 months old today - I can't believe how the time has flown! I felt the same way when DS was this age - feeling a bit sad that the time has gone so quickly, she's not a newborn anymore and at that next stage of development. I'm also very clucky for another one, but it is doubtful that it will happen again so I think I'm feeling a bit sad and sorry for myself there. Also I feel like I've lost a whole months worth of her development and being a mum properly because she was in hospital - even though I was with her 24/7....a bit hard to explain.

QC - I was never a big fan of the Wiggles either. James really likes them and I am so-so on them. But the show was SO fantastic, and just seeing the look on James face made it so worthwhile. It was only $20 a ticket and I feel I got my money's worth out of it, not like a big huge concert at the Entertainment Centre.

Sydney Mums - I might make a new thread about a meet and greet and we can hopefully organise something in the next few weeks. It might also give us some ideas of how far people are needing to travel so we might be able to make it somewhere central and toddler-friendly for those of us with older kids.

KateJo - hope you're going okay up there with all the floods! Stay safe! My brother lives in Mullumbimby so I hope he's ok...should check on him really, shouldn't I!

Anyway, have a great weekend everyone.

sweetseven

22-05-2009, 14:56

My bub rolled from her back to her side, once, about three weeks ago, and hasnt since. However that is likely because she doesn't really have much opportunity to do so. She doesn't spend much time on a flat surface.

However I'm currently facing a major lifestyle chance. I went to see an OT about DD5's (<6yo) lack of control of her bowel, and one of the reccommendations is to cease allowing snacking, and limit to five distinct meals a day (including morning tea and afternoon tea). At present, we have breakfast and dinner and people snack in between, and make their own lunch when hungry. Thus it is going to be a major upheaval. And of course, I've got the complaints, "why do we all have to do it? It is only DD5 with the problem, why cannot she be the only one?"

As for myself, I grew up as a grazer. We always had fruit available for snacks anytime throughout the day, and I've tried to keep up the same practice for my girls (though the fruit runs out frequently and they've had to turn to other more long lasting foods for their snacks). The bigger ones are at their fathers until Saturday night, so we dont need to start until Sunday. But I'm already looking at my celery in the fridge and lamenting how much I'll miss my snacks. That said, time for another stick of celery now.

Lateralus

22-05-2009, 16:51

Hi All - hope everyone has a good weekend ahead of them. Just a quick post to say we're doing ok with the floods up here (thanks Natski & FP for asking).. Lots of town has been flooded but we're high and dry where we are. You've been a chatty bunch today - I'll try to catch up on some personals tomorrow! :wave:

floodprincess

22-05-2009, 20:44

Evening Ladies...

Kate - so glad you are well out of the way!!

Hope everyone else is feeling better....MM, great step forward for Milan, I'll bet you were really happy about it to! May it be the first of many.

As for us, we had a really grumpy day here. Monique just couldn't settle and was stuffing everything she could grab into her mouth (I think her gums are starting to irritate her). She's kinda taking the bottle during the day with diminishing fuss, but thankfully still putting on weight which is good.

Although I'm sitting here tonight with a very sore boob....it's very tender and painful to the touch but doesn't feel lumpy or look red, so I'm praying it's not mastitis and just a little stressed from the pumping (and perhaps I need to adjust my massage technique) will try a hot flannel compress when I do my next express in an hour or so...if that doesn't work then I'll get in and see the DR on Monday.

Well, must run, off to put DD1 to bed and curl up under a blanket to watch movies....have a great weekend and try not to get too wet.

BoyCrazy

23-05-2009, 08:33

morning :wave:

kate- glad to hear youre ok with the floods!

mm- yay for milan!

gizmo- great news that L has settled down for you! 7.7kgs is awesome!! how fast has 4 months gone??

well jasper is now in his own cot, in his own room!!:smiliedance: he is actually sleeping better in there and does 10hr stretches! i was more upset than him, got a bit teary that he wasnt with me anymore :o
had him weighed last week, 7.4kgs! :D

anyway- must change a nappy-- hope you all have a good weekend!

sweetseven

23-05-2009, 17:18

Evening ladies,

We went to a funeral in Toowoomba today and that took all day. It seems odd because I normally change her nappy everytime she wets, but that wasnt possible today. So from leaving home at 9:30am and arriving back at 6pm, she has used only three nappies.

parentingrocks

24-05-2009, 11:53

:wave: everyone

been reading to keep up to date but haven't posted the last few days.

Everythings going pretty good here. Charli has been sleeping well the last few nights which is nice.

Went to cirque de soile in melbourne last night, was awesome! makes me think i have this body that i really do not use to its potential... note to self - must work out!!
DP stayed home and watched Charli, I left 2 bottles because we had to leave home 4pm ish to get in the city in time, park, and have dinner. The show was amazing. I highly recommend it.

Just relaxing today, tidying the house, doing ironing - you know - the exciting stuff!

well better be off, hope you're all well.

x

Lateralus

24-05-2009, 14:32

Hi everyone - hope everyone has had good weekend. We had our antenatal class reunion today which was good fun - great to meet all the bubbas and to see all the other Mums and Dads!

We have been having lots of sleep and settling problems with Zoe over the last week. Whenever she is awake she seems so miserable and she gets so over tired and is difficult to settle to sleep. She has had 3 nights in the past week where she has screamed for 3 hours solid in the evening before we can get her to sleep. And once we DO get her to sleep she's awake every 2 hours looking for a feed (that's 40 minutes feed, 80 minutes sleep, wake and start again). It's slowly but surly chipping way at my & DHs sanity. We were both in tears in the early hours of the morning because we are so tired and frustrated. I don't know what to do to get her to settle better. It seems like we have tried everything. My well meaning sister thinks that we should give the controlled crying method a try, but it doesn't seem fair to do that to such a young baby. Has anyone used this technique before and from what age. I don't know if I could do it. But on the other hand we can't really continue on how we are at the moment. :hair: