Man Killed Celebrating Birth Of Child

[OscarTheGrouch]

A very sad story.....:crying:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19435866-2,00.html

[cheezelkat]

thats awful :no:

[brooke]

aww how sad that poor mother and baby!

[SamanthaJane]

Thats so sad:crying:

These things make me feel like i can never truly be safe anymore:no:

[Ana Gram]

It's very sad but why on earth did he chase them??

[the_queen]

Sad.

Meanwhile, how do you pronounce the accused's name??

Ilaisaane Inukihaangana

[Maghan]

We've all got to go sometime, it's just a question of when and how. This was his when and how.

[OscarTheGrouch]

We've all got to go sometime, it's just a question of when and how. This was his when and how.
I doubt this would bring any comfort to his family during what could only be imagined as a very heartbreaking situation!

[SamanthaJane]

Yeah i'd be very hurt if somebody said that after my death, or after a family members death, or even after a friends death...:no:

[caz]

What a sad story. I really feel for his wife and children :(

[Mischief]

The poor family. It must be so heartbreaking :crying:

[Maghan]

I doubt this would bring any comfort to his family during what could only be imagined as a very heartbreaking situation!


Yeah i'd be very hurt if somebody said that after my death, or after a family members death, or even after a friends death...:no:

Oh absolutely, I never said it wouldn't be upsetting. Had someone posted a personal story about this happening to them I wouldn't be so callous.

There are so many sad/bad stories in the news I think I've become somewhat immune.

I shall exit now.

[dannii]

:crying: oh that is so sad!! its terrible hearing tragic stories like that

[cassi*girl]

Oh that is so so sad :(

[sopolicha]

We've all got to go sometime, it's just a question of when and how. This was his when and how.

I get your blunt point Mags. It is no more or less tragic than any other death that occurs.

A bit unusual for a young woman to be so callous and nasty.

[Maghan]

I get your blunt point Mags. It is no more or less tragic than any other death that occurs.

A bit unusual for a young woman to be so callous and nasty.

Oh okay, I know I was blunt... I didn't think I was nasty though... sorry!

[sopolicha]

Oh okay, I know I was blunt... I didn't think I was nasty though... sorry!

No you bleeding goose. The young woman who stabbed the bloke. I wouldn't refer to you as young :laughing: .

[Maghan]

No you bleeding goose. The young woman who stabbed the bloke. I wouldn't refer to you as young :laughing: .

So out of all that, the only compliment you sort of gave was taken away from me!

[MammaMia]

I get your blunt point Mags. It is no more or less tragic than any other death that occurs.



I get your point too, Mags.

DH went to hear Tim Costello speak this week. Tim Costello pointed out that everyday 30,000 children die in poverty ...every day. And yet, we hear nothing of them.

So, yes, there are many deaths that are tragic.

His point was that we seem to be most affected by deaths that give us a sense of our own lack of personal safety... guess from the reaction to this story, Mr Costello was insightful.

[Ana Gram]

I'm sorry this is going to sound horrible but however tragic this man's death was, he was the one who chose to try and be a hero by chasing after these people.

I don't feel bad for them because I think of my own personal safety, as I would never chase after people who have just held up the place I was in with a meat cleaver and shotgun.

It is very sad but I'll bet a small part of his wife is thinking "Why did he chase them??". If he hadn't he might still be here to be a father to his children.

[Maghan]

Chelle, I think there's validity in the ole saying of "there's no such thing as a dead hero".

And yes MM, it's not really newsworthy reporting on children dying in poverty, the only time you see that on the news is when it's to do with Brad and Angelina...

[OscarTheGrouch]

I can't see anywhere in that story stating he chased the offenders.:confused: Maybe I'm going blind.

[OscarTheGrouch]

It is tragic and sad and we dont know the truth we only know what they tell us ..

I would never judge why he chased ro if he did ir anything...none of my busniess.
Its just sad!
If I was his wife I would just be so distraught that anyone can kill someone!
But awfully proud if he tried to catch them
It was thanks to a hero that the man who attacked me was caught..thank god he didnt stop and say ohh well better not I might get hurt...
Exactly.:thumbsup: And three little children no longer have a Daddy. There's no excuse for murder!!:thumbsdown:

[Ana Gram]

The news story link that was posted only has a small part of the story. It has been all over the news.

[our little treasures]

OMG That is horrible, poor family!! I would be very sad if it happened to me... I don't know how you get over it!!

[Mum&bubs]

Very tragic :( I feel for his family

[iluvmeboyz]

thats so sad to hear that :crying:

[SamanthaJane]

I think its important to remember that this man is dead- never coming back. He was doing no wrong. He was trying to be a "hero" as some might say. He was out celebrating the birth of his child. And now this child will grow up without ever knowing their father and that is truly heartbreaking under any circumstances.

Im sure this child will be given pictures of his father to see what he looked like but in a real sense if i had grown up without my father knowing he was a good man, i'd give up all those photos and pictures just to spend one day with him.

Yes people die everyday, and yes its going to happen to everybody sometime, but that doesnt make it any more easier to live with the fact this this father of 3 has gone forever, all with 'thanks' to the horrible people that live in our world today.

Yes his wife will question... why did he chase after them? but she will also think- what if he never went to the pub? What if he had left 1 hour before? what if, what if, what if...

But in reality- How would you feel if this were your husband that just died 6 days after the birth of your child? I'm sure you wouldnt appreciate people saying negative comments about your husbands actions before the attack. All you would want is support.

[WeThree]

We've all got to go sometime, it's just a question of when and how. This was his when and how.

True Maghan, but I personally find the thought of a young man in his prime who was trying to do a good deed with a young family waiting at home for him bashed by a group of people with machetes, much more sad and distressing, than say an elderly person passing away quietly in their sleep.
Im not exactly sure what you mean, are you saying that the terrible way in which he died is not newsworthy? :confused: If so, then I disagree.

[WeThree]

His point was that we seem to be most affected by deaths that give us a sense of our own lack of personal safety... guess from the reaction to this story, Mr Costello was insightful.

I dont know MM, this just happened to be what was posted, Im sure if someone posted about child poverty, it would get just as many saddened responses. Should we not be saddened by this? Should we have ignored the post? Ive been watching this thread for awhile and just wanted to respond to you and mags, I hope noone is upset by what Ive written, Im just curious, I dont have it in me anymore for lively debates :o

[Maghan]

Coops, you don't need to have a lively debate. Yes it is sad, yes he did leave behind three kids and a wife. But what you don't hear in the news is the the father of 3 kids with a wife who suicided in rural Australia or the heroine addict who's family also loved her in the most profound way who died in tragic circumstances.

The media reports on what's newsworthy, not what's sad.

It's just plain out devastating when someone we love dies, whether they're old or young, but at the end of the day, we all have to go...I think my point got lost somewhere in my own contrivance ...

[MammaMia]

I dont know MM, this just happened to be what was posted, Im sure if someone posted about child poverty, it would get just as many saddened responses. Should we not be saddened by this? Should we have ignored the post? Ive been watching this thread for awhile and just wanted to respond to you and mags, I hope noone is upset by what Ive written, Im just curious, I dont have it in me anymore for lively debates :o

Nope - I don't mean that it isn't sad. It is sad for the man's family. No other circumstance detracts from their loss. It is sad as a community that we have this sort of occurrence in our midst. I understood Mags' point that you never know when your time is up or how it will come. The loss is felt just as deeply by loved ones, regardless of the surrounding circumstances.

I think I must not have communicated clearly what I thought was a valid statement from Tim Costello.

If we were to all hear (or read a thread) about the deaths of children in poverty, then that too would no doubt attract a communal sigh of regret.

But the point is this: every day an incredible number of children die tragically. Yet, the media largely ignores this and we as a community read about it every once in a while and the heart strings get tugged. What the media chooses to report regularly is the sorts of deaths that give us a sense of risk to our personal safety....something that involves weapons on our streets or senseless violence...something that breeds fear. As a community, through our politicians, we tend to work harder towards preventing senseless violent deaths in our immediate community than we do to counteract preventable deaths in our wider world community.

If one lost life merits such a communal voice to mark that loss, why aren't we hearing a louder throng as our voices rise to magnify that one loss by 30000 lost lives today?

The point is exactly consistent with what you are saying in part: every llife is worth marking and mourning. Why then do we not mourn every day the loss of those other lives?

I think it is correct to say that sometimes we suffer from system overload - too much exposure to untimely death; there is only so much emotion we can pour out into action on an ongoing basis to deal with this level of suffering without running on empty ourselves.

[WeThree]

I understand what you are both saying, I too am always deeply saddened and frustrated by what is considered newsworthy and what is not, I just didnt know if this thread was the one to bring that type of thing up, thanks for your quick replies :)

[MammaMia]

I understand what you are both saying, I too am always deeply saddened and frustrated by what is considered newsworthy and what is not, I just didnt know if this thread was the one to bring that type of thing up, thanks for your quick replies :)

I didn't see the point of this thread as being an expression of support directly to the family. I read it as a current affairs commentary about the untimely death of a man in violent circumstances. Many other threads arise in current affairs which extend to discussions about the wider issues around the specific incident. I didn't see this any different from those threads. It was commented fairly early that the situation led one poster to make a statement about her feelings regarding personal safety. That particularly made me think of Tim Costello's point. I think it is a matter of individual interpretation regarding ultimate audience and general direction of the thread. I agree that if the purpose of the thread was soley to express condolences to the victim's family it is not the place for that discussion. I did not make my post to diminish their loss.

[WeThree]

Fair enough MM :)