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Ladies, it is April already. I have never started our new chat thread, I hope there is not some protocol I don't know about...
I worked out how many boys and girls we've had in our group! I know we've MissyKy's little boy to come so we can add him on when he make his grand entrance!
Boys - 21 Girls - 26
We were a girly month!
Anyway, meant to be making dinner while DD sleeps so must dash!
LOL jeca, I know I'm so lazy and never got to adding everyone up. I can't believe we almost had 50 babies this month! Wow!
I hope everyone has a good night tonight, my eyes are falling out of my head so I really must sleep!
I just have to post a few personals otherwise I'll forget.
Nae another thing that may help is eating an apple once a day with the skin on. It's got lots of fibre.
Tash don't worry both of my girls went straight into their own rooms. Dd2 still manages to keep me awake with her noises from her own room. A tip for night feeds is to measure out the formula into a formula dispenser before bed so you don't have to think about it in the middle of the night. Formula dispenser is also great for the happy baby bottles because there's less spillage-those little scoops are terrible!
Karice and kar huggies have an inbetween size called infant from 4-8kgs but they don't do them in boxes only in the convenience packs. For dd1 this was when I switched to snugglers cause their small size is up to 8 kgs with a box of 144 for $35ish from big w. I found the she filled a newborn so quick I was going through 2x the nappies but the larger size were too big around the leg but she was a skinny mini.
Just Add Water
04-04-2009, 21:20
Hi Everyone.. well it seems I completely missed on posting in our first month :o. I have been reading but my head is not right at the moment so am even now making myself post some replies.
Regarding bottles & formula - Bayley is being bottle fed as well and we were on S26 in hospital and then DH bought Lactogen home as his other kids had been on it. Bayley ended up constipated so we're now on Karicare Gold + which seems to be working much better for him. I also express during the day and use my breast milk at night as he seems to sleep better with that than formula. To be honest, if DH hadn't bought me a breast pump and we'd just hired one then I probably wouldn't even be expressing. It takes a lot out of me on top of a baby who feeds every two hours and can take 45 minutes to feed. We are using several different types of bottles as well. My preferred ones are the babylove flo-tec ones from coles (they are small and wide and have wide based teats) and the "Lindam" feeding bottles that I got from toys r us. They have a release system to get rid of the excess air in the bottles. It seems to help with wind.
Re pooing for bubs - DS was constipated and we were told to give him some medicine (starts with C, I'm sure someone has already mentioned it) which while it did help him poo after a couple of days it did also increase his cramps from wind. I have spoken to some adults who have used it and had pain from wind so I have stopped using it. I have been massaging the muscles on the side of his thighs and this seems to help ease the wind and is also good to do when he is grunting when doing a poo. I am hoping to see a kineaseologist to get some tips as they did teach us some useful stuff with DSD.
We have a bassinet in our room for DS but to be honest he ends up either in our bed every night or on the lounge with one of us. Because he feeds so often it just seems easier. To those that have co-slept for long periods of time though did you find it caused problems between you and your partner?
Other pooing - iron tablets will do that. I am meant to be taking them as I have been aneamic for a long time and after losing a lot of blood my HB levels were really low. I haven't been taking them as I am still getting pain from my stitches and don't want to wind up constipated from the iron as well. I should probably start though.
Dummies - DS has dummies. He was given one by the nursery due to his tantrums when he was hungry. He only cries when he's hungry and has wind (we're quite lucky there I guess) and so we find it settles him. It also helps when he has hiccups. I really don't care what anyone else thinks about it to be honest.
I can't remember what else I was going to reply to.
AFM - well, not really sure. I am here but not really. I isolated myself while I was in hospital and have not really come out of it since. I am still taking my anti-depressants but have not returned calls to the peri-natal clinic which I know I need to. DS is a lovely baby and I feel really calm when I hold him which is probably another problem I am creating for myself. My mum came and stayed for nearly 2 weeks which was nice but I was definitately ready for her to go home. My dad and his g/f came down today and it was great to see them.
Our house is starting to settle down. I guess a period of adjustment is expected with a new baby plus people coming to visit. Plus our other bonus issues. Kids are going okay but having problems with DSD at school again and at home and I am really struggling with her. DH and I are hardly talking and I am choosing to focus on DS rather than dealing with anything. I basically feel like my marriage is over but it's too hard to deal with at the moment.
So that's me at the moment. I am sorry to everyone I haven't congratulated yet, I think of you all often but I have really been avoiding posting as I knew it would end up like this. Will try and be more upbeat next time.
newme, i have a list that im sending dh up to get from target tomorrow, and one of those things was a formula dispenser:laughing: and yes, the happy baby ones are hard to fill!
we are using the dummy, it helps settle him, he doesnt need it all the time, and at the moment only cries for food, poop and wind, so im ok with using it.
nomadic, expressing is really hard work, i would express for an hour before josh got up, then feed, settle, and an hour later (if we're lucky!) i would be back to expressing, my milk is still nowhere to be seen, i was only getting about 10 drops of expressed milk for an hours work, boo. So im not expressing anymore, i just could not do it all. So i understand where your coming from.
ok, we're still trying to get josh down, he's not crying or anything, but just wont sleep, hopefully have him down soon.:rolleyes:
:crying:so josh woke at 9pm, and has not gone back to sleep, so he has now gone 8 hours without sleep, we are crying...
just got back from midwives, they *think* maybe some reflulx, we'll pop into the doctors in the morning to have him checked out, if we can possibly see our way there without our eyes popping out of our head.... and hear what thedoctor has to say, seeing as we have no eardrums left...
eeyorethedonkey21
05-04-2009, 07:36
just wanted to say to tj that the size of nappies i think u meant to say is
newborn, infant, crawler, toddler, walker, then junior.
the downside to infant size is u cant buy them in bulk boxes u can only get them in the packets. i learnt that with ds1. (and i've just realised that newme has already mentioned all this)
tash: i've got a formula dispenser. mine is the sassy one i think. it came with a 3-compartment one and then a separate single container. best thing ever. i dont know how i managed without one for ds1. it was part of my nappy cake that my friend made me for my baby shower. i'd definitely recommend them
NewMe - had to work it out, the curiosity was getting me :p
Nomadic - :hugs: you sound as though you are having a rough time. I hope that you do get in touch with the peri natal clinic. And I hope that things get better for you emotionally. I had PND with DS1 and refused to admit it for a really long time. It is SO important to get the help you need NOW.
tommo - argh, what a rotten night for you. Hopefully the GP will be able to help you out and make some suggestions to help Josh settle. :hugs:
Nappies - Aldi's newborn nappies are BIG and go up to 6kg - perhaps they're worth a shot and they're a whole lot cheaper than Huggies!
Dummies - still working on Millie - I would like her to take one and I've found that she likes the Avent ones sometimes. I got 2 Nuk ones for $2 in a clearance bin at Pick and Pay yesterday, but she's not too keen on those. I don't want to invest in more Avent ones - they're expensive! Still if they're the only ones she likes... She is getting closer to finding her thumb so :fingerscrossed:, hopefully then she'll find it easier to self settle.
Nursery - so we didn't decorate the nursery cos we didn't know what we were having. If bub had been a boy I was going full on BLUE with trucks and cars and stuff (DS1's nursery was white and green, DS2's nursery is green with alphabet border), but I hadn't really considered what I'd do for a girl. Those of you with girls can you show me pics of what your little girl's room looks like? I want some inspiration!! And I want to get it done sooner rather than later - she's such a grunter I'm keen to get her into her own room so I can get some decent sleep!!
Last night wasn't too bad. I fed her at 8pm and put her to bed, I went to bed at 9pm and she woke about 11pm for a feed, then 2am, then 4am and then 7.30am so not too bad. I long for a bit more sleep though. After feeding her I was lying in bed thinking, now how AM i going to do her nursery LOL!!!
melbryan
05-04-2009, 09:18
Jeca- I have some pics on FB of Leahs room but when I went to hospy DH painted it bright pink. Everything is sooo pink in there. I like mint too and have added this too.
SOmeone asked about constipation DD is on Karicare thickener I think it helps reflux babies cause it stays in the tummy and is a bit thicker. Those constipated drops are called coloxyl use them sparingly as bubs becomes reliant on them they go into the milk and I only used them with the boys when they were really constipated. This time round Leah is doing OK with a bit of extra water in her bottles and this keeps the poo softer.
Aldi nappies are the best and the cheapest we are on the newborn ones. They work out cheaper than Huggies even when they are on special.
Leah has a dummy but is not fussed on it so will spit it out which is good for me cause I know I can take it off her easily.
Tommo glad you are getting to the docs to check bubs out let us know how you go. I tried sitting DD up on a triangle pillow after a feed and this seemed to help her digest her food better.
Leah slept woke 12am the woke at 6.11 so got some before the ferals woke up.
Morning all! I actually got some sleep last night as Abi decided to sleep through from 12-4am! :D She was then restless until about 5 when I took her into bed with us, after which she slept through until nearly 9am. I've figured out I think that my ongoing headache which I've had for the last week is due to sleeping in a partially upright position with the bub - not confident enough to lay her flat on the bed so she sleeps on me. A bit of neck TLC should shift it, hopefully. Might have to investigate some alternative co-sleeping positions, presuming that she will even settle in another position.. I'm trying hard not to use a dummy with her until she's at least 6 weeks (and we get BF well established). I have a feeling it would really help to settle her, but BF is hard enough for us so I've been avoiding using a dummy or even expressing and using bottles. I'll start expressing in a few weeks and start storing it, so by the time I go back to work I have a few months stocked up. Then I can just top it up. That's presuming nothing untoward happens to my supply between now and then...
Jeca - even though we knew we were having a girl, we still chose gender-neutral colours and themes for her sleep-space (there's some earlier photos mixed in there, before we moved stuff around. It looks lived in now :)). http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/joch666/Abi-Nursery_public/ The room is also not very big, being about 2m x 3m (it comes off our bedroom - I plan to turn it into a walk in wardrobe when Abi is older). The colour on the wall is a Dulux paint in Honeydew. I then trolled Ikea for a bunch of the designs (like the frog fairies and the rug) and the furniture. Because I loved the Zanzibar design in the Kids Line range, we got the wall hangings, pocket organiser (for the change table) and a nappy stacker in that range. I thought the animals were simply adorable. That's about where everything stops being matched in colour. Mum made the cot sheets for me out of some squares of material she bought at spotlight (so there's a mixture of designs in those), and the cot blankets I have are mostly bright, primary and secondary colours. Other than that, there isn't much in that space apart from some packets of sposies that I will likely never use (used a few in hospy when she was born, but have been using cloth since we got home). It's actually quite spartan for a nursery at the moment, though she is still getting gifts from people which I put in there. Oh the very girly toybox (which I actually like, being a huge Disney fan myself) was a gift from my grandmother (Abi's great grandmother) after one of her infamous op-shop sojourns..
tommo - :hugs: hon. I hope your bub is feeling better today..
nomadic - :hugs: to you as well. Hang in there. We're all here for you, whatever we can do (if anything), and don't hesitate to seek other help if you feel you need it. It's perfectly normal to feel calm holding your baby - I do too. Being close to our babies apparently fills us with feel-good, anti-stress hormones which promote happiness and bonding (strengthens our relationship with them and rewards us for the hard work of caring for them and surrendering completely to them). I read that somewhere (in the Sarah Buckley book I think) and am prepared to believe it. Hold him whenever you feel the need :yes: He's all yours (and won't be this size forever..). Your calm feelings might just be your body's natural way of helping you out mentally while you really need it to care for your newborn. Don't fight it, would be my humble advice.
mel - :smiliedance: for sleep!!
Hi to everyone else! Typing one handed is becoming tiresome so I'm going to finish this feed and then go hang the nappies out..
Just bumping this one up - not sure if we're supposed to be onto this one or still in the original March mummies thread.. /is confused. :dizzy:
ManekiNeko
05-04-2009, 21:42
Hi guys first time I've been in here. Hopefully I can do some personals just been very flat out lately. Am about to move in a couple of days and have been very busy with Austin as his symptoms of reflux have really flared up this week. Hope everyone else and their bubs are doing good... I better go get some sleep while I can :laughing:
so i made dh get an AR formula, the only one was s26, so i gave him that last night, and he gobbled down 80ml! and didnt chuck! and slept for 4 and a half hours, poor little thing.
ok, i think he is settles agin, off to bed...
ManekiNeko
06-04-2009, 06:07
Tommo if you are breasfeeding or don't want to change his formula you can get a thickner that karicare make... I'm actually going to grab some today. I also had Ruby on s26 ar you just need to keep an eye on their poos because it made her quite constipated too because of the thickness.
ManekiNeko
06-04-2009, 06:23
Also to those who think it might be reflux instead of just colic this was a good read for me http://www.cradle2kindy.com.au/BlogRetrieve.aspx?BlogID=1159&PostID=15358
I spent the last week ooohing and ahhing wether Austin had reflux ven asked the doctor for a zantac script just incase. I know it sounds silly I didn't automaticaly go yes he has it because I had a refluxer before but when I read that I was thinking gee it's pretty obvious. I have started him on zantac on saturday so hopefully in a couple of weeks I'll have my happy sleepy baby back. I just want to nip it in the but before it caused all the problems Ruby had with sleep and settling.
Thanks tracey, it definatley sums Josh up to a tee. We see the doctor at 10.15, so hopefully he will put him onto something.
Dh is so stressed about it all, when he wont sleep, he starts to get really annoyed, like somehow im getting sleep in while he's like this? Then he says, that he has to go to workand needs sleep...well, i have to look after a baby all day! The hardest job ive ever had!
I keep telling him he needs to calm down, cause Josh picks up on us being anxious, which makes him anxious, which makes things worse!
Oh, and hang on, who gets up in the middle of the night? oh, that would be me, so count on at least an extra 3 hours sleep for you over me buddy!:ecomcity: sorry girls, he has really got to me the last 2 days...
ManekiNeko
06-04-2009, 07:32
:hugs: I had the same issues with Wade with Ruby as a baby. He used to say things like what are you doing at home all day watching foxtel? :laughing: Did he get it for that.
I remembet I used to be so desperate I would catch a bus to his work just so the trip would put Ruby to sleep and so I wasn't alone feeling more crazy and anxious. It is really hard to relax with refluxer you poor thing I hope it gets sorted for you at the doctors today.:hugs:
Yeah, and dh will walk in the moment i have him asleep, oh, its not such hard work being at home all day is it?:cool:
i said to him, i think il try to walk to the supermarket today, he said, do we need anything? not a clue dear, i just want to get out of the house!
He isnt all bad though, he's finding it hard to adjust, he's fine when things are going smooth, but finds it hard when we hit the rails a bit.
They all say it gets easier tho...:fingerscrossed:
Nae - I just read your post in the other thread. It sounds like Sahara is having a growth spurt, they just want to feed and feed and feed when they're growth spurting - Millie's already done it to me. She was a feeding machine for 2 days and is back to normal now and even went 2 4 hour stretches overnight last night! If you're after a lactation consultant is you ring the ABA they have a list and can direct you to one or two in your area - their number is 1800 MUM2MUM - I rang for the same reason when Millie was only a few days old.
Tommo - I'm completely with you on the hell of reflux - DS1 had terrible reflux until he was 15 months. He threw everything up - it was a wonder he grew so well, but he would scream and scream - poor little thing. It's so hard on them and on us.
Tracey - I hope the Zantac is making a difference to Austin. I'm going back for Millie's second appt at the osteopath tomorrow, but I've definitely noticed an improvement in the week since we went to see her. I'm going to Brisbane Osteopathic Centre - their number is 3311 5655 and they're at Wilston.
Oh dear, Millie was happy but she's having a cry now, so I'd better dash! But I'm pretty chuffed for getting 2 4 hour stretches out of my little girl last night YAY!!
Just Add Water
06-04-2009, 09:23
I have emailed a mod to have this made into a sticky.
MOrning girls.
Jeca, so glad you got some respite.. It is hilarious that we now think 3 hours sleep is great going.
F was back on 3 hour cycles last night. He was grumpy all day and is grumpy again today. I think it is probably the 6 wks growth spurt.
Oh dear, tears again gotta go...
does anyone know if its normal for a fully BF baby to grunt and groan and struggle to poo for a few hours??? Every damned morning Cadence wakes up at 6:30 on the dot wanting her morning feed and then she won't go back to sleep until she's done a poo...she keeps herself awake for anywhere up until 10am trying to poo :confused: then i have an over tired little girl who gets cranky coz she's tired, hungry again, annoyed coz i'm fiddling around with her nappy etc... gah its annoying...
Bf bubs are rarely constipated. Are her poos still runny and mustard coloured? if so i wouldn't worry unless it keeps persisting, but if her poos have changed colour or consistancy it'd be worth getting it checked out to be on the safe side.
Jeca :smiliedance: I'm so glad you got a decent sleep last night!
I can't remember who mentioned it, but someone said that they found bf to be quite dehydrating. To counter that I've bought some bottles of water from coles that are 350ml(just coles brand maybe $10 for 24 bottles) and everytime I feed I grab 2 out and drink them, then at my night feeds I have 1. I've found it easy because I don't have to get a glass then pour a drink with a screaming baby in hands, I can just grab it and plonk myself on the couch and have the lid on when I'm not drinking so I don't have to worry about knocking it over. Added bonus for me is that when I forget DD1 can get me a bottle with ease. I just re-fill them so that I have a constant supply in the fridge ready to go. It works out that most days I end up drinking maybe 3.5L without too much thought or effort. I must need it all because I'm not peeing excessively. I really feel it on the days where I don't drink that much.
I can feel this little girl is going to need a feed shortly, so might go grab a snack to eat too.
trifecta
06-04-2009, 09:58
Morning girls, I need a bit of advice re: sleeping during the day/routine. Jacob is pretty good at night, wakes every 3hrs and generally goes straight back to sleep. But during the day he can be awake for upto 5-6hrs in a row! He wont go to bed without been fed which sends him off before we get there. I keep trying to put him down awake and after 5mins he gets himself so worked up that he starts choking. He hates the dummy and only takes it on occasion. I'm finding it really hard to do anything! And I don't want to get into the cycle of feeding him to settle all the time. Karice was talking about the sleep, feed, play routine - how do I do this and for how long do they 'play'? He can snack feed all day long, I feel like I'm going a bit nuts here......
trifecta
06-04-2009, 10:04
Newme- I do the same with water bottles. I'm SO thirsty all the time still though and always really hot. I'm also really noticing that I smell? :( I have two showers a day, wear deoderant etc, but can still smell a bit BO even after my shower... crap I'm a sad sack at the mo. Is this from BF too or am I just a doomed? I wont even mention the whole pelvic floor muscle thing...
H'n'B - I would recommend reading up a bit on babies tired signs. They're so easy to miss but once you know what they are and start looking for them, it will make getting them to sleep a lot easier. I'll post more on it after feeding but in the meantime Karice will probably have some of her tips from the other day to share too.
are you sure it's bo and not just the smell of your milk? i really notice the milk smell.
:hugs: sounds like you're having a tough day
hnb - we had the same issues with Cadence until the breastfeeding clinic actually pointed out the tired signs to me...they're soooo easy to miss! I was so shocked, I was sure she was hungry or in pain from wind all the time, but no, she was just really tired!
Yep, we've been told to Feed, Play, Sleep during the day. Its best to feed bub as soon as they are awake so they feed more efficiently, coz the actuall process of feeding is quite tiring for them. Then the "play part" kind of depends on the time of day, how much sleep they've just had and how big a feed they've just had. Basic rule of thumb is that bubs shouldn't be awake for much more than an hour at a time so i'm told. So basically, that means that if you've spent a good 40 mins on a feed and nappy change then after 15 mins to half hour of play you should be getting some tired clues from bub.
The main tired clue is bubs movements start to get really jerky, the arms start to fly about, bub might hit themself in the head, the legs start to crunch up and down, bub may start to frown, grimace and grizzle, which will get progressively worse the more tired bub gets.
I find that if I swaddle bub as soon as I start to see the jerky arms and legs start, take her to her room, she always has a radio on then most times she's starting to understand that its time to sleep and is starting to drift off in the cot. It took some perseverence though, so don't expect it to happen over night!!!!
I was told that the problem is that bubs like to suck coz its comforting, but if they're not on the nipple for food reasons but just for comfort then they're still getting this milk that they don't want and they can vomit, gag, get frustrated (all signs we had with Cady) If your milk supply is good then I was told its fine to try a dummy. Cady's not so keen on dummy's, sometimes she'll take one when she really wants to suck but most times i seem to be able to get her to drift off without one, or she'll spit it out after a minute or so anyway.
Also, bub's need to have 2 sleep cycles at a time to be rested (each are 40 mins long for babies) so around an hour and half is a good sleep during the day. If they wake up after 40 mins, try to get them so go back to sleep. Also, up until 3 months babies can seem awake when they're not! During their REM cycle, their eyes can open, they can cry out, change facial expressions, grunt, groan, fidget etc... I know I was guilty of accidentally waking her up thinking that she was awake, but she was only dreaming! I was told to just watch her for 5 or 10 mins, she should settle down into deeper more restful sleep, but if she's awake well, the crying will just get worse. I think I've almost learnt to recognise the difference in her awake noises to her sleeping noises after lots and lots of watching her :laughing:
I hope this helps... unfortunately, all the pamphlets and info that I've been given isn't linked to a website or anything, so this is all shorthand notes from a booklet i've been given. I might see if DP can photocopy all this stuff and I can mail it out if anyone wants this stuff, it's pretty damned awesome info! Made my life about 20 thousand times easier...:detective:
Touch wood!!! Well so far so good this morning, Sahara has sleep from 7 - 9, feed really well had a massage & change of clothes, a bit of a top food wise then fell asleep at around 10.30 & is still asleep. Again touch wood!
I really concentrated on getting my cradle hold right while feeding & she stayed on much longer, although not constantly sucking though but definitely feed longer than normal.
It's bath day today & thank god. Does anyone else have a bub with a really sweating neck that smells due to the skin folds? We clean it constantly & make sure it's dry all the time but no matter what it still ends up smelly by the time bath time comes around.
Also anyone else noticed their babies hurting themselves? If we leave Sahara to cry for a bit too long I find she is pulling on her own hair with such force that it takes a bit for me to get her to loosen her grip. I was in shock yesterday when I realised she was doing it. It was quite disturbing for me actually.
On the BO thing I'm finding that by night time I'm a bit pongy as well. I can definitely smell my milk but this is BO from my underarms. It has to be something to do with breastfeeding I think as I never had a problem with it before. Plus a girl I use to work with came into work, after having her baby, with really bad BO as well.
I'm also very upset at how yuck my face has gone. During the pregnancy my skin was so nice & soft but now I seem to have the worst case of blocked pores on my chin plus really dry skin. I'm going to get one of those new battery operated vibrating cleanser thingys. Oh & I need to work on drinking a lot more water as well. I've got a tupperware bottle that I use, it's 750 ml & it's great for working out how much I've drunk during the day. Now I just need to make sure I remember to drink from it though.
Does anyone elsefeel like they need a whole new look now they've had bub?
I'm so keen to get a new hairstyle & new warerobe now I'm a mum. Hopefully with some of Mr Rudd's money I can start on my new "mummy" look.
So gp has put Josh on zantac, also have an u/s, x/ray on wed to check his little tummy is working properly, they are a bit concerned over the projectile vomits.
They are a bit concerned about me, talking that maybe i should be readmitted to try and get some rest and so they can help with Josh, cause he is waking so often, and all the problems with his feeding. So im a bit teary, a bit upset, a bit not coping...
im sorry im not really up to personals.
:hugs:tommo. Going back to hospital doesn't sound ideal.. :no: but you also need to make sure you're getting the rest and care you need to properly care for your poor bub. Big hugs to you both.
Just Add Water
06-04-2009, 11:25
Tommo - if you are offered help to establish sleeping and feeding patterns with him then take it. I have several friends who have been in your situation and all took this help and were so amazed at the difference it made to them, their partners and their babies - as well as their relationships. Apparently I used to projectile vomit when I was a baby, mum mentioned something about tipping me upside down after a feed as nothing else was working. It may be an old method but perhaps ask your doctor about it. You're doing great - it's a tough time with a new bubs. *hugs*
LivingINhope
06-04-2009, 11:36
Tommo - :hugs:do you have tressllian where you are? they are fantastic I did a 1 week residential stay they made sure I got sleep, helped to establish a better pattern with DS1 and organised for DH and I to have a dinner out together very lovely. It is so normal for you to be struggeling when you are so sleep deprived take all the help you can get honey to get back on track, god knows I would not have survived without it.:hugs:
melbryan
06-04-2009, 11:40
Tommo take the help if offered like someone else said. I didn't know what to do when my Ds1 had reflux and sure I had a bout of PND. Most people think you think know everthing about becoming a parent but really it's all new and we cannot know everything after having one though you will relaise how confident you have become in READING your babies. I think it all comes with experience.
You are doing a great job and by following your gut instincts and going to the docs about Josh means you are being a great mummy and seeking out the best for you and bubs. It becomes very exhausting for you and bubs when they are feeding it feels like all the time. Just glad you have a found a doc that will actually listen to you cause alot don't and think it will pass and just fob you off.
DS1 was on zantac and it stops the acid from reluxing ( going back up their throat), stops it from burning and gives them some comfort. It took a couple of days and with sitting up etc and raising the head of the cot it all helped him have a bit more sleep. It felt like he never slept.
:hugs:aaaaw tommo you're doing great hunny. Honestly, I'd take the offer for some help and some sleep. You need sleep so you can function sweetie...severe sleep deprivation is a form of torture :( you'll feel like a new woman with a few good hours of sleep under your belt :hugs:
I wrap F and start cuddling him after he has been up for 1hr 15 mins, no ifs or buts!! Less if he seems tired. Then it is time for bed after 1hr 30 mins max. Sometimes this works sometimes it doesn't! But I give it a try every time on advice of MCHN and then keep trying to resettle until 2.5hrs are up since last feed if i can manage it.
I do cuddle to sleep though or until he is very drowsy which I know some say is a bad habit to start.
We have just started some playmat time too and rocker, maybe only 5 or 10 mins after a feed of each.
We have done this routine for about 2 wks and it is going reasonably well.
HAven't read all posts and F is grumping but Tash :hugs: and please give me a call if you want to chat.
kar - i still have to cuddle cady most of the way to sleep also. once she's really drowsy she seems to drift off in the cot but sometimes if i'm really tired and impatient myself or if she's in a grumble-bum mood then we're still nursing her all the way to sleep, but we're getting there slowly!!!
on the BO issue, I thought it was just me, but I've noticed that also! no matter how often i shower or how much deoderant i load on, within a few hours im stinky :( its a bit embarrassing...
and yes, cady gets the stinky neck aswell. We're still on bath every second day and top and tail wash for the other day but i think we might start nightly baths to get her into bedtime routine
Thanks everyone, its amazing how people that i dont know in real life can give such great support:kiss:
I think its hard admitting that im failing.
Im not sure about hospy at the moment, we have just had some of the biggest days in our little town of births, i dont know if im puttin gthat right, um, there has been more births in the past week than they can handle, on friday, they had 9 go in 24 hours! Considering our hospy has 2 birth suites, and they say around 200 births a year, you can see how busy it is. So im not sure id get the help i need anyway, iykwim.
Unfortunatly, we dont have any places like that livingInHope...sounds nice though.
The midwives are lovely, and really trying.
We have had his cot raised from the start, he always prefered being a bit upright, which was obviously the sign that things weren't 100%.
im only 3 and a half kilos off what i was when i first got pregnant, im dropping the weight really quickly, just not hungry, so hopefully il drop some more yet...
thanks for letting me get this stuff out girls...
tommo - you are not failing, you just need a little sleep and a helping hand :hugs:
LivingINhope
06-04-2009, 13:58
Tommo - you are not failing infact your showing what a great mummy you are. Josh has been put first all the way and now your feeling a little overwhelmed and sort help straight away. That is devotion!
I had PND with DS1 and seeking help is the best thing i ever did...can you get a referral and go to sydney for a week? lots of girls come from all over oz to have residential stay cause the care is so personalised. I think medicare and private care pay for most of it.
Just Add Water
06-04-2009, 14:12
Thanks everyone, its amazing how people that i dont know in real life can give such great support:kiss:
I think its hard admitting that im failing.
Oh Tash, you're not failing hun!! You're being the best mother you can possibly be, look at how many things you've tackled already and made it through!! (Remember back to those days in your pregnancy when you were worried about blood pressure and had those problems and yet you came through that too). Babies are hard work, even those who are "text book" babies. Being a parent is hard enough when the little people can communicate what is wrong with them and when they can't well it just makes everything harder. We're all in this together, Tash, and I know I've come on here and just reading the posts from everyone else has helped me, even if just to make me realise I'm not alone in something.
Does your DH have someone he can talk to about his feelings? I'm lucky that my DH has been through this three times before but I do know that my BIL and several other male friends found it really hard when they became dads. My BIL makes a point to talk to his mates when they become dads now as he had no one to talk to and lets be honest, so much attention is focussed on the health of mum & bubs that dad is often forgotten. He's had a huge change too and it would be worthwhile him having someone to talk to as well about the reality of becoming a dad (it will help him understand his role in supporting you better as well and hopefully allow him to open up to you much better about what he needs). Obviously I understand that babies are hard work but I also am a strong believer that men's issues are so often overlooked and often they are too embarressed to admit they need help.
Do you have someone who can come over even for a few hours so you can both sit down and have dinner together and just chat for a bit? It really does make a difference
There are loads of parent lines to call and they are great if the hospital isn't available, ask your midwives about them. Also, maybe ask your midwives if there are any other mums in your area who have babies with reflux issues, they might be able to offer you some tips on how to cope, not just deal with it.
Just remember that we're all close by and here for you (and maybe it might be worth getting DH to join the dads section?).
Take Care. *hugs*
:hugs: Tash - you are in no way failing! this parenting business is hard work and you're doing a fab job. Even if you don't want to go back to hospital atm, I'm sure the offer will always be open. Is your mum or a close friend able to come to help you out for a few days and maybe even overnight 1 night to help you to get some rest? It will do you a world of good to get a few hours of consecutive sleep and you'll feel like a new woman. I just wish i lived closer so i could help out. You've got my number so feel free to call me anytime day or night if you want someone to chat to.:hugs:
Thanks Karice for posting the info. I had forgotten so much of that, and you've saved me reading a whole chapter in my book!
Nae Indie gets a sweaty neck too, only really gets smelly after vomits though so I just make sure I give it a really good wash.
trifecta
06-04-2009, 14:29
Thanks heaps Karice, I know you posted that info previously and it's such a big help. I just felt a bit overwhelmed this morning and I know I need to try much harder to get our daytime routine right. I think I'm a bit anxious about going to Brisbane for Easter too, all the family will want 'a go' of poor Jacob and I'm not sure how I will cope with it all.
So we spent most of the day in tears (both Jacob and me) trying to get him into bed and I finally gave up and took him downstairs to watch some telly where he promtley fell asleep (after some boob) on the couch for 1.5hrs. He just had another wee feed and is in his own bed, so hopefully he will last more then 10mins.
I felt the worse mum in the world earlier, I was trying to cut his fingernails and nipped the top of his finger :no: He started bawling - real tears - and I felt so awful I was crying and even had some vomit come up into my mouth. His poor little finger was bleeding, the first time I've seen his blood : (
Jacob has a bath every morning.
Tash - I know my problems seam so trivial when you have a reflux baby to deal with, I really hope you get the help offered - it could make all the difference. You are a fantastic Mummy, and you need to take care of yourself so you can be your best for Josh. Please eat! I know I hardly feel like it either but it's important to keep up your energy and health. It sounds like you have lost alot of weight already.
Hope everyone is having a better day then mine has been.
Just Add Water
06-04-2009, 14:44
I know my problems seam so trivial
I don't think any of us would see anything trivial... we're all on a learning curve with these new little people, there's nothing trivial about that. HnB - I haven't even been game to cut Bayley's nails as I'm worried I'll hurt him so you're braver than me!! Apparently if you do it when they're asleep it's a lot easier.
Karice - I have to add as well that your information was so helpful. I had been picking Bayley up too often, thinking he was awake as well instead of just grizzling in his sleep. I have been following the advice you posted and we have gone from feeding every 2 hours to every 4 or 5 hours and he's settling quite well on his own. I've started wrapping him again at the first signs on tiredness and cuddling him till he gets drowsy and then down he goes. We really only started last night but it's been working :thumbsup:
I am feeling much better about things today, still not 100% on where DH & I are headed but I am prepared to keep tackling that bull as needed. He is doing a lot to help out but we have a lot of other issues that we have had basically since we got together and never really deal with. I'm now making him confront them and talk about them so we're hopefully going to come out of it at the other end. We are also both really struggling with DSD at the moment, her behaviour is horrible. We had a phone call from the principal this morning as she had stolen from someone at school again (this has been going on for nearly 2 weeks again). She refused to eat her breakfast this morning, kicked and screamed as I dressed her because she refused to, rearranged the furniture and just has the absolute worst attitude I can imagine at the moment. I understand that a lot of it is attention seeking and her insecurities coming through but gee it's hard to be reassuring when you really just want to smash something against a wall instead. Honestly the thought of locking her in her room and sliding food through the door has crossed my mind once or twice. We simply do not have a moments peace when she is at home. She's constantly telling us what to do, yelling at her brothers, taking things, mucking things up and just getting in everyone's face. (I know my parents are sitting there thinking "Karma" though - ******** :rolleyes:). I'm dreading school holidays but trying to be positive about it. High School Musical 3 comes out on DVD on Thursday (yay!) so will be putting that on daily and hopefully that will keep them entertained for a bit.
I've been wandering something... am I the only one who feels guilty because Bayley is an easy baby? I read about the problems some of you are having and I really have been blessed with him.. I have been hesitant to mention it because I didn't want anyone to feel bad... which I know is silly but it does bother me.
Oh I love Mondays - the kids are all in care until 6pm. Bliss!! :yes:
Yes I feel guilty about having an 'easy' baby (eventhough when he was refluxy it wasn't bloody easy!) I have one friend with a babe who has lots of issues and another who has quite a lot of health issues following birth and I feel guilty when I see both of them and try not to say how well things have been going since we changed the feeding style or how well I am feeling.
I have been nibbling F's fingernails as needed, :hugs: HnB, it was an accident, it happens.
Tash darling, don't even think the word 'failure', you are not failing at anything, you are working on J's issues just like you should.
I felt like I was really losing it about 10 days ago and left F in DH's care for 14 hours and only surfaced to feed him and felt so so much better for some sleep.
I had been so paranoid about not leaving F to cry that I wasn't giving him chance to settle himself, I am now letting him have a go at self settling but not work himself up to upset and he does manage it about half the time, so I second letting them go a little bit. He also settles better when I am sleeping on the couch...
HnB - :hugs: it's an awful feeling. Dh did the same thing to DD1 when she was the same age and to this day he won't cut her fingernails. If you're using "baby" clippers, then ditch them and go with regular adult ones, I've found them so much easier for both the girls. As Nomadic mentioned - it's so much easier when they're asleep.
Nomadic - Don't feel guilty! Enjoy having an "easy baby". Everything works out in the wash. DD1 was an unsettled baby, but we had no problems with her teething or toilet training. Whereas I have friends who had very settled newborns but they scream day and night when teething or they can't for the life of them get their 3-4 yo's to sit on a toilet. Enjoy it while you can!
I'm still struggling to find something to wear to my friends wedding and it's next week! I decided a breastfeeding top would be both sensible and comfortable for both Indie and I but I just can't find anything that would be suitable, everything is quite casual. But I will persevere!
But right now I need to sort something out for dinner. DH is going to some black tie dinner tonight so it's just me and the girls. DD1 would be quite happy with mac and cheese, but that won't satisfy me, so I'll have to come up with something we'll both be happy about and have it cooked within the next hour if I have any hope of getting her into bed on time!
I've just had the maternal health lady round, she tends to think its reflux and not the polystic tummy thing by watching a feed and a 'settle'. She pointed out using a faster flowing bottle because of the change to thick formula:doh:. He took 80ml, and only threw up twice, and both were quite small compared to normal. Then settled, he hasnt slept all afternoon, i think he was working to hard with the other teat with the new formula.
The stupid chemist didnt have the zantac he was prescribed, have to wait till tomorrow, a bit annoyed about that.
I am feeling better after the visit.
nomadic, i said to dh that its great just to know that all this is 'normal', other people are going thorugh the same thing, we're not alone, lol.
I have asked a couple of times how he is going with all this, and he keeps on 'fine, just gotta make sure you two are ok', and try and push a bit more, he doesnt really talk to any freinds about anything like that, thats always been our thing, iykwim, he keeps that stuff close. hopefully we have some answers to joshys irritablity, which should ease some of the tension, and give us a chance to have a bit of time together.
dont feel bad about an easy baby! i thought i had one untill 2 days ago:p, take what we can, sounds like you need an easy bubba with the way dsd is acting, big hugs, i dont know much about discipline of a girl that age, maybe some of the other girls have suggestions for books to help settle her? i hope she gets her act into gear soon.
newme, does it sound horrible that i feel like i have to do this on my own? i feel like if i get help im failing, i know its not the case, rationally, but its how i feel. i was coping really well before the reflux got so bad, i think i just need a bit more time to be comfortable with my skills, iykwim? Definatley the hardest job ive ever done... Thank you for the offer to chat, it is so much appreciated:hugs:
im afraid its just a quick pasta for us tonight, but i dont have to cater for a toddler either!
hubnbump, noones problems are trivial, they are all big in our own lives. *never think they are trivial*. dont worry, ive had one or two things happen and i start bawling, thikning im the worst! we're all new at this, and mistakes happen, and it was only a little one!:hugs:He's ok now!! I ended up putting on 16kgs, and have lost all but the last 3.5kgs, i'll be working to drop alot more than that, im using Josh's 8 week checkup with doc as my next 'goal', lets see how much i can lose ;-) the healthy way, even though im not eating much, im eating good stuff, so im feeling better about that.
LIH, im scared about travelling the 40 mins to geelong for some tests for josh, let alone to sydney:o im hoping that maybe today is a turning point? if things havn't improved in a week or 2, i may just be beggin for the name of the place though....
kar, i think thats one of the advantages of having josh in his own room, we leave him for a little before going in, and we dont hear all his movements and things. Oh, that wrap you got me? its fantastic, josh cant escape from that one!!!!
Sounds like a sanity saver leaving F in dh's care though, having that break, but knowing he was safe with dh, nice.
Has anyone elses bubby come out with pimples on their face, poor josh has broken out.
Josh cries real tears, that means he's in genuine pain right? it makes me want to cry when ever he 'cries', i feel so bad.
ok, i better go organise tea, first night il have tea without josh by my side... thats nice.
Thank you to everyone, it means so much to me having you guys around to help me out at this tough time. :kiss:
Tash - you're not failing, far from it. At least you are doing everything possible to try to make Josh more settled. You are doing a wonderful job & don't you dare think anything different.
Karice - Where did you do the Breastfeeding clinic & who ran it? I'm just seriously thinking I need to do something similiar. I'm worried we're enabling Sahara too much, she only seems to fall asleep in my arms & normally only when I'm rocking her in my nursing chair.
melbryan
06-04-2009, 18:49
Tommo with a reflux baby it affects you both so much and I don't think people know what it is like until they have one. I always felt it was just 'me and the baby 'and DH was on the outer. He couldn't settle him and left that to me. I didn't have much luck with settling him but I had to rock him at 3am I became exhausted thinking that this was what becoming a parent was all about. It doesn't have to be. DH and I remember back to DS1 and when he was really small and just cringe at the thought of him he was absolutely terrible many times we wouldn't leave the house or ever wake him because he never slept anyway. It was a tough road but we got through. I wish I would have taken more help and went to tresillian or hired a night sleep nurse or something and got him on a reflux med staright away before he got into these terrible habits. I never did and I suffered. I went back to work full time when he was 7 mths I think I was some kind of zombie but honestly I couldn't stand being around him he was a nightmare. He is 5 yrs in two months and they all grow out of it but it felt like forever. Search for help and take it you are being the best mummy you know how too and he will thankyou in the end.
F is covered in pimples, well, actually starting to clear now at 6 wks, erupted at around 2 I think.
Tash you sound better this afternoon, good!
F has only just started to get wet tears, think it is a developmental thing not related to whether they are distressed/in pain etc?? could be wrong, he could have been playing me for the last 6 weeks :laughing:
Witching hour has commenced after last feed. I am really holding myself back from taking him from DH. Purely through time spent I know what calms him a little better but I don't want to be one of those mums who always takes the baby off dad. That really annoys me.
Hi everyone! :)
Hope you and your bubbas are going well.
Tommo - I think you’re a great mummy, no way are you a failure! What you’ve been going through sounds really tough to me. Even those of us who are on our 2nd, 3rd or 4th etc. bubbas have times where we are overwhelmed or doubt ourselves. It sounds like you are doing such a wonderful job taking care of Joshua. I hope you and DH can get the support that you need to catch up on some rest, you really need to take care of yourself. Wow, you’ve lost a lot of weight very quickly… make sure you eat properly hun. Big hugs and thinking of you. Remember, we’re always here for you. :hugs:
Nomadic - :hugs: I hope that you and DH can resolve any issues between you. Your DSD sounds like quite a handful (understatement!) - how has she been with Bayley? You have such a lot on your plate, you deserve an easy baby so please don’t feel guilty about that.
Karice - :yelclap: top job on passing on all the information you’ve found so helpful.. as NewMe said, it’s a great refresher for those of us who have already had bubs too.
Hubnbump - I hope your day’s gotten better sweetie.. it can be overwhelming when bubs isn’t settling when you think he should. Hope he had a good sleep this afternoon. Don’t feel bad about about nicking his finger, I’m always nervous about cutting nails when they’re really small. I found baby scissors to be better than clippers as clippers feel like they pull the nail a bit, and when I cut the nail I press the fleshy bit under the nail down (away from scissor blade) before I cut (if that makes sense?!). Baby emery boards are good too, and probably easiest to use when they’re really small.
LIH - glad to hear that the sore nipple is healing and that the improved attachment is helping.
Sorry, everyone else for the lack of personals… I don’t have the time at the moment to respond to the number of posts since I last popped in. I’m thinking of you all and have read all your posts. Sending you and your bubbas best wishes.
As for us.. Lily’s cold is pretty much gone now, and as far as colds go it was very minor. In the last couple of weeks she has been unsettled between 9pm and 2am, just when I’m ready to collapse into bed! Last night she was better, actually slept in her bassinette between 9pm and 12.30am… I won’t get too carried away yet, but hope it is a good sign. Most nights it has been very difficult to get her down, she doesn’t scream her head off but will cry if we try and put her into her bassinette or hold her in a position she’s not happy with - I think it’s a ploy just to cuddle with me in the baby bjorn :laughing:. Last week wasn’t the easiest week for me… both boys played up quite a bit, DS1 seemed to develop a huge attitude and DS2 was super whingy… maybe I’m tired and it just got to me more. I feel bad for the boys that we have hardly made it to playgroup this term… last Friday morning’s feeds etc. just didn’t allow enough time to get there and it’s hard to go by myself if I know Lily will need a feed as I can’t supervise the boys properly then. Sorry to sound like a whinger, I’ve been feeling a bit flat the last few days - I think it’s mainly due to tiredness and feeling like I’m struggling to keep up with the housework. Then I feel annoyed with myself because that seems such a ridiculous thing to get worked up about, especially when some of you are having bigger issues. Maybe I need to get out of the house more as I’ve been feeling a bit cooped up… too much time inside thinking about all the things that I need to do that I don’t have time for. Sorry about the whinge girls.
I can't believe how much Lily has grown in 6 weeks (tomorrow)! She seems alot more interactive now and it's just so gorgeous when she smiles.... more than makes up for all the lost sleep.
Hope you all have a great night (and maybe even some sleep too!). Catch you soon!
Lisa :wave:
J got pimples about 2 days ago (8 days) and they are covering his cheeks now:( poor bubba.
He's had tears since he was born, i remeber the day after we had him, and we'd left him to cry, cause we had no way of settling him, then i went to him, and his poor eyes, all teared, it was horible.
melbryan, yeah, i dont think i could ever describe to anyone what it feels like eh, its something you have to of actually been through. We reclused ourselves on sunday, after that horrible night, couldnt face the world that day. we're still turning away visitors, its just too much to try and get J right, and entertain people. im hoping with the refux med, that will help sooner than later.
kar, felt pretty down till the health nurse came round, J has been down since about 5.30, its now 8, but he hadn't slept between 10 this morning till 5.30 tonight, so he needs some of that deep sleep, hopefully it will lead into a nice night of sleep:fingerscrossed:
i find myself taking J away from dh 'cause i know how to do it', cause im here all day, ect, it really is hard to fight that urge!!!
bongos, sounds like your going through some pretty stressful stuff at the moment. i try and get te housework done in J's morning nap, not done then? wont get done today!lol, i know its hard to just leave, im still not able to yet, so i understand what a *big* thing it can be. :hugs: i hope this week goes a bit better.
ManekiNeko
07-04-2009, 03:56
Thanks for the # Jeca i'm thinking I migh 357 t give that a go as well poor little mite is in so much pain sometimes.
Tommo this is the tresillian website http://www.cs.nsw.gov.au/tresillian/helpline.htm
they have a 24 helpline 1800 637357 they can help talk you through techniques. I found the riverton (another sleep centre) great for this and at 11 months they helped me get ruby 7-7 sleeping.
I think it is really important to accept help in the early stages. I was in a really bad way after I had Ruby I cried non stop and was so sleep deprived I thought I was going insane and well so did other ppl too. I remember one night sitting on the floor of Ruby's room crying and telling wade I could not look after her because I was no good at it and hearing her scream at the same time. It was a really desperate time and because I didn't take the help earlier it dragged on for a long time.
I was so sick with pnd I was urged by the perinatal nurse to be admitted to the peri natal psych ward but wade didn't want us to leave and I kind of didn't aswell. I really regretted it a few months later when things were still bad and the help wasn't so redily available. I went back to work when Ruby was 5 months I was crying at work almost everyday because I was like a zombie but then again I needed to get away from her and this went on until I did control crying with her at 11 months.
Yes the zantac fixed her reflux but she still fed very poorly as she had an aversion to the bottle and had such terrible sleep patterns set fromt he beginning. So please take as much help now because I would hate to see anyone suffer the way I did because still when she was almost one I was suffering severe pnd fromt the sleep deprivation and couldn't get out of bed most mornings to which my mother had to take care of Ruby. Don't feel bad about how you feel either it's not really you its jsut the hard time you've been having that makes you feel so rotten. As soon as Ruby started sleeping through at 11 months and I started sleeping again pnd passed.
Also just wanted to let you know if they haven't already zantac can take a couple of weeks to work so stick in there. I also had a hard time getting both Ruby and Austin to take it because it tastes so fowl. I used to to do this trick with ruby stick her dummy in then slide the syringe down the side towards the back of her mouth and she would swallow it because she would suck the dummy after i took the syringe out. Austin isn't a great sucker so it isn't working for him howevere I am going to get it put in a strawberry suspension to disguise the taste. If your town doesn't do that and you have trouble getting him to take it I can always get a bottle done for you. I remeber sometimes when ruby was teething i'd mix nurofen (strawberry flavoured) with the zantac and she would have it then so hopefully it works on austin too.
Remember if you want to talk anytime pm me:hugs::hugs::hugs:
Hi girls, just a quick one cause I need to leave soon to take Ella for her 1st check up at the clinic. She is 4 weeks old today! I can't believe it has been almost a month.
To those of you who think you have BO I assure you it's the milk. I thought the same thing with DS (esp since he was born in Nov so we went through the whole of summer BF). I eventually realised it was the milk I could smell on myself. Nobody else could smell it. This time again I can smell the same thing. It gets stronger though when I am hot and sweaty - maybe I leak a bit then???
Everyone seems to be having their hard days. I think we all are a bit hard on ourselves sometimes! Bongos, you are trying to look after three children!!! I am very lukcy - my mum has taken 4 weeks off work (although DH only took off a couple of days). She has been here nearly every day for at least part of the day and has taken DS 2 nights per week (she drops him off at daycare on his 2 days so I don't have to do the morning rush with Ella as well). She has been helping me clean and has been doing my ironing since I fell pregnant! I am very spoilt aren't I?? She's going back to work after Easter though so I am truly on my own. Somehow I think the house will get a bit dirtier :laughing:. Anyway, it is still hard and I have help so ease up on yourselves girls!
Must rush off..
subaruforestermum
07-04-2009, 08:58
Hi all, I'm finally here, cant do personals as there is so much I've missed out on!
Little Indie made her arrival into the world and smiled straight after she was handed to me....
Done it drug free, again, tore my perenium (sp?) and some slight vaginal tearing alot of bruising. Went to have a shower, started to get dizzy and sat down afterwards only to notice blood clots running down my legs, called for the midwife and she wasnt too concerned, she then pressed on my stomach and said doesnt feel like there is any big clots in there, next minute splat, splat splat, some big clots came out...
They still werent overly concerned at the amount of loss... The was discharged to leave the next day when everything went down hill, will write about it completely in a birth story though!
Am still quite sick, was close to complete liver and kidney failure basically, although my symptoms were brushed off by a midwife who discharged me. Have to have more tests and scans and what not but am HOME.... YAY...
Indie is great, although she hates sleeping in her basinette, it's either on my chest or on her side beside me. (as that's how we slept in hospital as I had a canular in and couldnt move much due to pain from Kidney and liver).
She hates the dummy tried it in hospital to clam her while I was 'getting there' sort of thing, but nope, tried a few different types and refuses them, but will happily suck or chew really on a finger...
My millk is in finally, had some delays, and she is forever feeding, we are still supplementing her occasionally, as I'm still trying to get better and need rest, but my left boob is always leaking, just wasting the milk, where the piercing hole is...
She never really lost much of her birth weight and we were told she could have afforded to lose more, only lost 150g, the day before we were discharged she was weighing 3250g again born 3260g, so that was at 8 days old!
I wont be on often, as I'm still recovering, and it's DP's final week home. so want to make the most of getting things sorted out, as he let the house go while I was away as he was constantly back and forth to the hospital, so we need to get back into some type of normality...
Miss ya's all, look forward to catching up with all the talk soon!:hugs:
trifecta
07-04-2009, 09:06
The time sure does fly, Jacob will be 4wks on Friday, there are quite a few Friday 13 bubs actually. We have our trip to the health nurse today also, can't wait to see how much weight he's put on, I'm sure he will be over 7lbs by now.
So hopefully today will be better then yesterday, thank you all for the reassurance. I did try biting his nails, using baby scissors, picking them and a baby nail file which none was too successful. I keep looking at his poor little finger and still fee sick when I see it. Then he looks up at me with those huge blue trusting eyes and cracks a big smile and my heart just melts again...
It's taken me an hour to settle him to sleep but I didn't pick him up so hopefully it will only get better. He's taken the dummy which I'm o.k with as usually he hates it and gags on it, and it's done the trick to soothe him to sleep.
I now really want to vacuum my messy floors but I dare not risk waking him yet. That will have to wait.
Jacob has pimples too, they disappear overnight though only to be met with new ones :o
Bongos- Hope you have a better week, I'm the same with the housework and I have to keep telling myself it's stupid to get upset by it. Having a wee whinge is good for the soul - we are all here for you so whinge away.
Tracy - Great advice. You feeling o.k this time round?
Oh Suby I'm so glad to hear that you're home and that DP could take an extra week off work. Thank-goodness next week is a short week too so that you're only alone for 4 days before it's the weekend again.
I've got the MCHN coming in about 20 mins, so I have to keep it short. I'll pop back in for personals later.
But MKS - I have to agree, we all need to stop being so hard on ourselves - we're all doing a great job!
ManekiNeko
07-04-2009, 09:34
That's really sweet of your mum Mks how lovely. My DP was the same only took a few days off because he is a sub contractor so if he doesn't work we don't get paid.
Suby congrats on little Indie glad she's doing well. I hope you get some rest and recover well soon.
Hnb thanks yeah it was a pretty rotten time I spent basically almost a year on the verge of a nervous break down crying almost everyday and hating my life. Now that I have had Austin and don't have pnd and am more relaxed I notice how I was was really not normal at all. Austin has had a pretty rough week and if it was me back then I don't know if I would have been ok but this time I just am taking it as it comes this time. As for the fingernails don't worry I did the exact same thing with those stupid baby clippers. I found because of the side guard on them I couldn't judge how far and well found scissors useless too. I just got regular ones waited till she was asleep the slid in from the side of the nail rather than the front and have never cut hers or his finger since.
Hi nm was great catching up with you karice and jeca hope to do it again once I'm settled into the new place. Hope all goes well with the nurse today aswell.
As for me I am having a little break from the packing but almost done so we will be in our new place tomorrow so glad the stress of moving will be over... Not looking foward to unpacking though. I can't wait to be in a bigger place and finally set up Austin's nursery (When the furniture arrives) As for Austin's reflux I went and got some formula thickiner and that seems to have done the trick for now. Because its thicker it seems less runny so I notice he isn't choking on it now and also it must be heavier in his tummy he's sleeping a treat. After a week of unsettled sleep he slept 9pm to 3am this morning now is still asleep at 10:30am when he went down at 4:30am. I am hoping it's not a fluke and it helps him from now on.
Hope all the other mummies are doing well.:wave:
Morning all
Tracy - got no idea how you manage to move house with a little bubba!!! i hate moving at the best of times. Hope you like your new place and the move goes smoothly for you
suby - great to hear that you are home, hope you get better soon :hugs:
nae - all the meets that I go to are run through Deception Bay Family Centre (located in the D-Bay shopping centre) its all run through Queensland Health and its a free service. They do counselling with a social worker who I see once a month to make sure that I don't develop PND as I've got high risk factor, they also run drop in clinic with child health nurses 3 times a week, so you can weigh, measure bub and have a chat with the child health nurse and breastfeeding clinic on fridays which is one on one with a nurse and they had some dvd's and things to show me about baby behaviour and settling etc...
hnb - don't feel bad about the finger, i almost did the same thing myself, but yes i understand that is can be quite a sickening feeling. I've been using the baby emmery boards while Cady is dozing. Her little fingers are a bit bigger now so I attempted the nail clippers again yesterday, but its still no good for her ring finger and pinky
I'm glad that the info has been useful. It's probably not going to work for everyone, but it really did help me in so many ways so I thought it would be worth sharing.
Cady has started to get a few pimples over the last few days also
Has anyone noticed that when their bubs are drifting off to sleep that they crack up with the giggles??? Cady has been doing this for the last week...first time she did it she scared the life out of me, I thought she was having a damned seizure or something! But no...she's laughing her head off...problem is that its infectious...makes me laugh and then I wake her up...D'oh! :laughing:
Cady is going through that 3 week growth spurt at the moment. I'm wondering if growing pains will keep babies awake? She was so unsettled yesterday arvo and most of the evening. She was tired but grumpy and all her usual settling methods didn't seem to work so well until around 10pm and then, click, she was out like a light...odd child...
oh and I think I may have created a monster RE the dummy. She's really taken to the Nuk dummy, like crazyily so. And now, if it falls out of her mouth while she's not quite asleep, she wakes up grizzling for it. *sigh* at least she'll get to sleep in her cot i suppose. I just have to sit with her for 10 or 15mins next to the cot and catch the dummy before she wakes up looking for it. It's just like someone said earlier...everything comes out in the wash...great saying!!!:yes:
blah i need a shower...i stink of milk...so gross
TuesdaysPrincess
07-04-2009, 12:17
Hi everyone!
Wow, where do you all get the time to chat so much! Half your luck! But then again, I suppose that for a lot of you it's your first bubba so you don't have a toddler to chase after (ooohh I envy you all!).
Big hugs to everyone that is struggling. It's so hard, what we go through as mums, especially in these early days. We are all doing a great job, even though I know it doesn't feel like it sometimes.
Small update on us:
*C-section infection is finally under control! Yay!
*Benji is still quite jaundiced so we are going to the GP again on Thursday to make sure that everything is working ok.
*Benji's poos are still very mucousy but have definitely settled down since I have taken dairy out of my diet. GP wants to take a poo specimen on Thursday to check to make sure he is absorbing all of the nutrients of the breastmilk. He's gaining weight well though, so not too worried.
*Sebby is the best big brother ever. He loves Benji so much, always helps with nappy changes (he loves to pull the wipes out of the container for me!), and I've trained him to throw the nappy in the bin for me! Bless his heart! His speech is also coming along in leaps and bounds, he's such a chatterbox now!
*DH and I are having a few issues, mainly just the financial stress of everything, plus having two kids is really tiring us both out, so I'm sure we'll get through it. We just have to make more of an effort to have a bit of 'alone time' at night after both the boys are asleep.
*Got really cheap plane flights to Perth in October, so my dad will finally be able to meet Benji - we can't wait!
Hope everyone is having a good day today, sorry for the lack of personals!
Hi girls,
Tracey - went back to the osteo with Millie today and to day she's improved out of sight is an understatement. She was screaming everytime she burped - that's stopped, she's not brought up milk in a week - yay, she's much more relaxed and it was so worth it! We only saw her twice, and boy it was worth it! I'm taking DS1 next week to see if they can help with his behaviour and his on going bowel issues - had them since he was born :(.
you mentioned Riverton - we went to Ellen Barron Centre last year when DS2 was 10 months and they were wonderful! Such lovely nurses aren't they!
Good luck with the house move!
Suby - good to see you back! I'm so sorry that you ended up so sick - that's just awful. But it sounds as though Indie is thriving which is wonderful news.
Karice - I've got Millie on the Nuk dummy too - when she takes it she loves it, but it can take a while to convince her - she'd rather have booby anyday!!
Going to make this quick - I'm trying to find a wall mural for Millie's room - I know what I want, just can't find it - grrrr!!
I got two good stretches off Millie again last night - 7.30 until midnight, then 12.30 til 4 and 4.30 until 7am which is fantastic! We did have our first witching hour last night though - she cried from about 6 until 7.15 on and off. DH and I took it in turns walking her round and round, shushing and cuddling her. In the end I gave her a booby top up and let her fall asleep on me. Unfortunately, DS2 was getting in and out of bed until nearly 9 so no early night for me. So hard now he's in a bed and Millie's in the cot - he can just get up whenever he wants!!
Ok, DH is making me a cuppa so I'm off!
Kyleigh - I think once there are two that will be the end of posting more than weekly! Glad it seems you are working it out re poos. I would also think that provided weight gain is good it is probably ok?
Felix is definitley growth spurting. Feeding every 2.5hrs during the day and 3hrs overnight and not settling very well because my milk supply hasn't caught up - it is crazy on the weekend my boobs were completely engorged because he was doing a 6 hr and 4 hr cycle overnight, they have now adjusted and he wants milk every bloody minute and there is not enough :rolleyes:
I'm back to be being tired, but the screaming/reflux symptoms have not recommenced and it has now been a week so I think fast flow was definitely the problem.
Tracey thanks for sharing your story with us, I think it is so importan women are honest about their birth and parenting experiences rather than saying everything is great so everyone feels alone when things aren't so good.
Jeca, we have an hour every night at the moment and I do give F a top up if he really is inconsolable, but then he ends up with a sore tummy - catch 22. MCHN told me today it will end by 3 months :dizzy: How will we do another 6 wks of it?? Although my friend told me for her it abated at about 8wks.
When F is going to sleep he goes through a huge range of emotions - one second he is smiling, the next he shouts out and then he looks like he is going to cry and is sad. It is really weird.
Tash - when F is having a tough patch I say no to visitors too. I also kick people out when witching hour starts because I find it too stressful and like we are under pressure to make him stop crying.
SFM - do rest, you need to focus on your health, the housework can honestly honestly wait. I hate it when people say that to me, but it is true!
AFU - F is 6 wks today, wow! Went to MCHN, he has gained another 450gr and grown another 2cms. We have to get him checked out for a possible hernia in his groin. Paed can't see us for over 2 wks so going to GP for a first opinion on Thu. It isn't bothering him at all but is a little bulge that comes and goes.
Hope some of you lovelies are feeling good after some good sleep stretches, I continue to sleep on the couch...
Hi to everyone else who is reading and not posting :wave:
trifecta
07-04-2009, 15:48
Hi all, hope everyone's day is going ok. I've had a much better day today then yesterday, went to see the health nurse and had a chat about everything and she advised that 3wks is really to young to enforce a routine and it's not worth the stress to either of us. Of course he's slept pretty much ALL day today with only a couple of feeds in there. He has put on about 900g in 2 wks which is great and is now 7lbs 10 so still small for 3wks but surging ahead and everything else is perfect.
So I'm going to try relax a bit more with him and wrap him when I see the tired signs but not force him into his bed if he doesn't drift off.
Better go and check on DH - he's home with a migrane and I just heard some thumps from the bedroom....
I am a bit worried, F has a small head, really small like under 10th percentile. Otherwise he is little but pretty normal - 4400, 55 cms at 6 wks. His head is 35.5 and only grew 1/2 cm in last 2 wks. He grew 2cm in length and put on 400gr.
If it was a concern MCHN would send us to the paed wouldn't she?? Also, he is not fully smiling yet - a few little ones each day and one or two big smiles in the last few days but they not responsive smiling. Aside from that he seems to be meeting most of the 8wk milestones as set out in the health book.
I am being ridiculous aren't I?
Kar, your just trying to make sure F is healthy and thriving, id think the MCHN would have him checked out if she was concerned, did you tell her you were concerned?
Im sure he is fine though! :hugs: Maybe mention it on the next visit, just to put your mind at ease.
hubnbump, im also trying to pick up on those tired signs...
So it seems J's hard time is from midday through till about 6 pm, then FINALLY fet him down, then he has a bit of a moment between 8pm and 11pm, im trying all the settling ideas i have been shown, but he jut fights the sleep the poor little thing.
J is awake again, better go, be back in a bit hopefully to do some personals.
Kar - my kids have always had small heads, I have a small head so I guess it's not surprising! My eldest's was always below the tenth percentile, while the rest of him is like 95th percentile - he's very tall for his age. I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it. What was his head circ when he was born?
Tommo - what a rough time it sounds as though you're having. :hugs:
hubnbump - when my middle child was small I kept a diary of when he fed/slept/how long he was awake for the first few months and by about 6 weeks I could see his natural routine develop. I used to wear him for most of the day though so I could get things done! I can still carry Millie around at the moment, but soon I'll have to wear her, she's putting on so much weight!
So tired, just got all the kids down, so going to watch half an hour of tv to unwind, then I'm off to bed. I'm not getting bad sleep from Millie, it's just that I find it hard to switch off at the moment. Ok, have a good night girls! I hope our little cherubs give us a wonderful night!!
TS, ive had a couple of moments where ive wondered whether i can actually do this, i think i cry once a day at the moment, i thought that was normal for a new mum, maybe its not. il see how i go, if things havnt improved within a week or so, il have a talk to the health nurse. i think its just such a dramatic change, its just going to take a bit to adjust.
I hope your going better this time around.
Jeca, i hope your little snippett of tv time was nice and relaxing:D
Kar, im shocking with people at the moment, i just cant handle the entertaining as well as the caring for J, that should improve in a few weeks, but at the moment, please ppl, make an appt or give me a call! LOL
afm-mum cooked us a us a roast for dinner tonight, oh, yummy, yay for mum :)
poor J is really stryuggling with his poo's, he cries when he does them now, so il pick up some coloxyl drops tomoorow and hopefully that will help. They are very hard and 'pallet-y'.
ok, i hope all the bubbies out the are going to go and have some sleep tonight!
trifecta
07-04-2009, 19:35
Kar - I'm sure the nurse would mention something if she was worried about the size of his head. Jacob is only 48cm long, so only 1st percentile and his weight is 10th percentile. So he's still tiny but she was happy with his weight gain and is feeding, pooing and weeing like he should.
Tommo - your roast dinner sounds so good. I had a home made fish and chip sandwich - how unhealthy! I really need to get some veges into me, think I will start some supplements.
Jeca - thanks for the tip of the diary. The health nurse suggested I get a sling to carry him around just so I can get things done. We have a bjorn but he's still a bit little for it yet, but should be nearly ready. Like I said, he's slept heaps today, must be making up for yesterday.
Well think it's shower and bed time for me, will try and get an hour shut eye before the little darling wakes for his next feed. Hope everyone gets a good night in :sleeping:
LivingINhope
07-04-2009, 20:21
Hubnbump – (HUGS) it is so hard when bubs doesn’t sleep I really understand how you feel, Lucius normally doesn’t sleep during the night. I have doesn’t nothing about Lucius nails through fear of hurting him am thinking of nibbling them off we’ll see. Its good to do it after a bath cause the nails are soft. Just remember it was an accident you will make heaps of mistakes in your time as a parent and the guilt never gets easier, funnily the kids forget really quickly and we tend to beat ourselves up for a long time.
Lucius breaks my heart he has cried real tears I think from day 1, he sound slike he is dying if he wants food or just to be cuddled. The other night I was BF him and he screamed and bawled I have no idea what happened but I must have hurt him somehow, the sound haunted me in my sleep and it has taken me days to get over it.
The trick is to always make sure his tounge is down before putting in a dummy , when they cry their tounges go to the roof of their mouth to protect them from choking. So if your putting in a dummy at that time it is pushing their tounge back to far, that is what the lactation consultant told me.
Nomadic – I hope things settle down with DSD, don’t feel bad for having an easy baby it sounds like DSD is making up for it right now. I think with 3 other kids at home you deserve an easy baby.
Kar – I was at Tressillian when DS1 was 3 weeks old and they always teach you to try to settle bubs before using other methods to get them to sleep. To be honest I have been slack with Lucius and just going in and giving him his dummy back, partly cause of my sleep deprivation and so he doesn’t wake DS1. We are starting to let him go for a little bit now though as you sya its important they learn how to self settle.
Tommo – So glad to hear thickened formula is helping, zantac does take awhile to work and when giving it give it slowly its peppermint and can burn babies mouth/throat. I am still plagued by the first time we gave it to DS1 he screamed and howled and I had to breastfeed him for ages to sooth him it was awful. But giving it to him slowly was fine…funnily DS1 loves my tic tacs and is able to eat them without thinking they are to hot…LOL! Lucius has pimples to I asked the doc with DS1 and he said they are milk pimples.
I just want to say you are doing so well with Josh, I got help early with DS1 but I was in a bad way. I still think you should take up the offer of help, don’t leave it till you feel like you can go no further without sleep and a break.
Bongos – My clean washing pile is so big it falls over, the house is a mess and I just don’t have time to do anything about it. I feel bad to but what can you do…better you look after the kids and try to catch up on sleep where possible. I know what you mean about struggling to get out the door because of feeding I seem to be late to everything.
Tracyselensa – I was like you with Sebastian I spent a lot of time at Tressillian in day stays and residential stays. PND and sleep deprivation tend to go hand in hand really especially with reflux babies to top it off. I think girls like you and I being honest about our previous experiences will help others going through it, the good news is we both went back for more which is a testament to things getting better.
MKS – OMG! I wish can I have your mum…you know that is what mums should be doing my grandma did it for my mum but no such luck for me. Interesting about the milk thing I bath Lucius every day cause I swear I can smell my sweat on him and it is a little milky smelling.
SFM – Good for you drug free, man I had the elixir this time. Gosh the blood clot thing sounds full on what a bad midwife. Did they give you the injection that helps your uterus contract? Is it left over placenta? I also ended up with pereneium tearing again sits baths are fantastic for that. Take your time to settle into life with Indie keep us updated when you can.
Karice – Lucius does that crazy chuckle sometimes when he is going off to sleep as well, the first time I freaked and though he was coughing or choking. Lucius is the same with his dummy but it helps him sleep and work through his relfux issues, not to mention I get a little peace and get time with DS1 also. I wouldn’t worry to much our job is for now to help bubs eat, sleep and grow,
Kyleighb – Hope Benjis poos get better and that your c-section infection stays under control. Our Sebby is a good big bro also unless Lucius is crying then he tells me to put him in the bin…but he’s pretty good all the same. I know what your saying about lack of time…I am about to go and get a bath ready for Lucius and feed before I go to bed and I got nothing done tonight as usual.
Jeca – good to hear the osteo has done great things for Millie, we are looking into it for both our boys. DS1 still gets little reflux. Hope you get some sleep I have been told to take zinc BTW those of us with sleep deprivation end up with low immunities, make sure you have some on hand.
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Well I attempted personals I am sorry if I forgot stuff it was just to much to go through. I had 2 medical appointments today and with the 2 boys it was a night mare, we spent 2 hours waiting at each place in the waiting room for scheduled appts...I was ****ed.
Lucius had a 4 hour stint or 2 over night which is good. My endo confirmed my thyroid levels are way out, no wonder i am so tired.
Anyway must fly, to tired.
Just Add Water
07-04-2009, 22:03
Let me just start off with :hair::crying::dizzy:!!!!!!!
DH appears to have broken his foot, well his heel to be honest (only my husband could pull that one off!!). He hurt it at football on Saturday, the first game of the season which he wasn't even meant to be playing at. Jumped up to get the ball and landed right on his heel. We went to the doctors on Sunday and had it x-rayed, then he had to go back today for a ct scan as they couldn't see it properly. And today they tell him that it's probably broken but need to go again on Thursday to see the radiologist report and then they will put a cast on it.
How the F!!K am I going to manage with 4 kids and a husband out of action for 4 - 6 weeks? It is his right foot so he can't drive either. Damn.
So now I really do need to get organised, if I'm going to pull this off I'm really going to need to be on a super strict schedule, otherwise I can see us living in a pigsty and eating a lot of takeaway.
I'm going to go back through the old threads and look up all the freezer meals we all suggested (never did any of them LOL) and do a big cook up on the weekend.
The worst part is that I will have to drive the kids to see their mother. DH will come with me and will let her know that she stays back and treats me with respect or the kids wont be going until he can drive again. I hate that I have to even take Bayley near her. I am seriously thinking of leaving him with friends. I don't want her evil spirit anywhere near my son. I don't want her near the other kids either but I can't do anything to stop that unfortunately.
Righto - so positive thoughts and hopefully a good nights sleep and off to a good start tomorrow. I have already done the kitchen, yay!
Hope everyone is having a good night & that things are getting better for you all.
Oh, and Kylie - I really don't have the time but if I don't make myself sit down and have a break then I'll go crazy. It does help that my youngest is at preschool. I looked after a friends almost 3 year old the other day and she needed a lot more supervision than Master 4 so I feel for you!! Just make sure you are getting some time for yourself though *hugs* I hope you and DH get things sorted, it's so hard when it's about finances though because it's not like you can just get more from somewhere.
LIH, Bongos, Kar, Tommo, Karice, NewMe, Tracyselena, Suby and everyone else - wishing you all a Wonderfully Wacky Wednesday.
Ciao.
P.S My boy would make any father proud with his skills at passing wind!! :laughing:
melbryan
08-04-2009, 06:33
Just wanted to drop in say I won't be here for a little while as after a week long of Ashton(Ds3) not being well I got him some blood tests yesterday and we get a phone call at 10pm to go straight to Westmead Children's hospital.
They put him on all these machines and then say to me he is going to be a diabetic. I got home this morning at 5.30am had 1 hr sleep and am going back he is in intensive care on insulin through a drip and being very closely monitored. I feel so sorry for Leah but can't do much. On top of that after the blood tests the car decided to break down and I walked home with Ashton in a pram.
Bye to all....
eeyorethedonkey21
08-04-2009, 06:55
:hugs::hugs::hugs: mel.
Mel - how horrible, I hope little Ashton gets better really soon. Take care of yourself. :hugs:
Tommo - hun, I think you should have a chat to your GP about how you are feeling - you sound like how I felt with DS1 - I remember thinking that surely everyone cries with a new baby - they don't hun (well sometimes, but not every single day), you need to get help and the sooner you do the better, you will feel so much better got it. You are doing such a great job, take it easy on yourself.
Nomadic - what a nightmare. :hugs:
Had a terrible night with Miss Millie - she was awake from about 1.30 until 4am. Poor thing had hiccups and was grunting and whinging. She wasn't crying just cranky. I ended up giving her the dummy - something I haven't done at night before and that got us about 2 hours sleep. Poor little possum. She's so sleepy this morning that she went back to bed about 20 mins after her first feed - awwww. Taking all the kids to playgroup this morning which will be fun for the boys!
Mel, how terrible wishing you and your family all the best. Leah will be fine while you focus on Ashton I am sure.
Jeca - it is not fair is it! I gave F more milk an hour after his 3am feed just to try and get some sleep.
Nomadic - what a nightmare. And I don't think anything is wrong with takeaway and a pigsty in the circumstances!! Well, actually any of the time.
LIH - I think we have managed to settle F in his cot about twice! It is cuddling/bjorn all the way in this house! I figure it is not really worth the stress at this age, although I do try to put him down when he is not fully asleep and he manages to get himself off to sleep about half the time. If not, snuggle to sleep.
What a super human personals effort!!
Thanks everyone for your support re F's small head. DH has a small head and I don't have a big head so it is really not surprising. I think it was 32cm at birth so has gained 3.5.
Jeca I feel your pain. F decided not to sleep from 4pm yesterday until 9.30. Well, he slept for half an hour from 9 to 9.30 then woke screaming for milk. With his current 2 - 2.5hr feeding if he doesn't go down then we are back with him wanting milk again before he has gone to sleep and my boobs can't keep up. What a nightmare. He did then sleep from 10.30 through to almost 3 but it is just so frazzle making when they wont go down in the evening. He then stayed up until 4.30 when I gave him more milk, then up at 6.15 then up at 8.15 for feeds. Have just put him down. :fingerscrossed: for more than 30 mins, actually for any sleep at all.
Jeca I keep notes too to try and see any emerging patterns. One day just blurs into the next so no hope of keeping any track in my head! I have worked out that if F misses one afternoon sleep the rest of the day/night pretty much goes to sh*t. Also, he can self settle during the day and overnight but no chance in the evening.
LivingINhope
08-04-2009, 12:36
Nomadic - cripes honey I hope his ankle is not really broken...ok he will be out of action but can hang out with the kids and do a few things to take the pressure off you. If I lived close I would offer to cook you some meals:hugs: Do what you have to do to get through this time and a few takeout meals here and there is ok take it easy. :laughing: Lucius gives his dad a run for his money in the wind department, actually when we go out I get embarressed cause I am sure people think that amount of noise couldn;t possibly be coming from him...LOL!
Melbryan - :hugs: I am so sorry to hear abour DS3, my thoughts are with you both and hope he makes a speedy recovery. Leah is portable and as long as mummy is with her she is happy so don't put that guilt on yourself.
Tommo - I agree with the girls you really need to chat to the GP or organise daystays at the sleep clinic. I have been there believe you me and it is so much better to get help so you can enjoy your experience than leave it. DS1 and I got off to a really rough start but now we are super close, its important for both of you.
jeca - hope you got to playgroup and Millie lets you catch up on slepe today.
Kar - Lucius almost never settles by himself, unless we are out he mostly lseeps in his bassinett. We probably do a sleep a day in the baby bjron and usually one on daddy when he gets home to hold him out till the next feed.
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Well Lucius and I still fight a few times a day over BF, he struggles to attach properly on my ripped nipple and I am sure part of it is I anticipate the pain. However, went ot see the ECHN today and he has now put on 1.1kg since birth so i'd say he's doing pretty well and that I do have plenty of milk.
I am being watched very closely for PND cause I had it with DS1 but I don't feel the way I did with DS1. I have had a day so far when I thought this is to much to juggle and have cried a few times over the BF issues but apart from that I feel pretty good. With DS1 I was so helpless and out of control and just could not see a way through.
Well I am off to sleep I just got my boys down...have a good day:D
Millie is sleeping so well from 7pm until about 3am with a wake up/feed at about 11pm-12am, but from then on she's very much awake. She's not crying or anything, she's just awake and grunting and trying desperately to find her thumb, poor little mite. This morning DH got up with her at 4am and settled her to sleep until about 7am, but he had to have her sleep on him out in the sitting room. Not ideal! I can't move her into her room until after my Mum's been to stay in June cos she's going to use Millie's room. She's such a delight though, just wish she'd sort out the sleep thing!
Anyway, must dash, big boys to keep busy!
its official, i'm having a lazy day today :sleeping:the phone is off the hook, the front door is locked, the curtains are drawn, there's a polite but firm note on the front door "thanks for visiting...but not today thanks, come back when I feel human. You can knock all you want, I won't answer the door" :laughing:
ok, bets are open for how long I can keep up the lazy day for hahahaha :laughing: stupid OCD...
So far its 1pm, i'm still in my PJ's, I haven't touched the kitchen except to make something to eat, I've only roused to feed, change and entertain little miss.
Getting the itch to do washing so bad now...
nonono...must be lazy today :D oooooh...but my ironing pile is soooooooooooo high... I SAID NO!!! BE LAZY DAMN IT!!! *sigh*...i think I'm losing it, I'm listening to arguments between the OCD angel sitting on my left shoulder :devil6: and the tired mummy angel sitting on my right shoulder :shame:
LivingINhope
09-04-2009, 12:10
Jeca - yeah my little man seems to be more awake at night also, the grunting ect...find he gets alot of wind at night after about 10 minutes of grunting last night he did the most explosive poo (sorry TMI).
Karice - LOL! good one I love it!
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Well I managed to play trucks, blow bubbles, colour in, make bunny baskets and build a train set during one of Lucius sleeps today so Sebastian is very happy. I find it hard to juggle the boys and yesterday ended up a TV day cause Lucius was so unsettled.
I am lucky Sebastian has taken it all pretty well although occasionally says Lucius should go in the bin...hey if thats the worst I am not to concerned.
BF is going a little better and my nipple is healing a little so that is good. Both boys are asleep and I am off to rest:D
Nikkiwith1bub
09-04-2009, 12:50
Hello !
My names nikki had my beautiful boy lachlan on the 3rd of much, just joined bub hub a week ago.
And got to talking to people last night, i was feeling very emotional and everyone really helped me out, i was referred to join the march thread so here i am !
Itll be great to have some more people to talk to xo
Lachlans doing a lot better today [yesterday was very cranky] so hopefully ill get to nap this afternoon !!
:wave: Hi Nikki, welcome to the thread. There are some lovely ladies on this thread, I'm sure you will enjoy chatting, I know I do :ecomcity:
subaruforestermum
09-04-2009, 14:06
Hi all, welcome Nikki....
I am here, trotting along, feeling very worn out and exhausted, I guess everyone is feeling that way, but mine feels worse...:p Just wish my body was strong enough to be able to carry babies and not have things go wrong after the birth, guess it's not to be. So we're positive that Indie is our last one.. I cant put myself through this again!
I'm cooking a roast lamb, so better go put my veggies on...yummmmm...and then pick DS up.
Hope everyone is well...:hugs::hugs::hugs:
Thanks for all your kind words and well wishes.... I've felt very alone since having Indie, as I spent days in hospital with no-one visiting, or calling, nothing... (apart from mum and DP and my aunty)... so you girls rock...:goodvibes:
hey Nikki!
welcome...My little one was born on the 2nd...so ours are nice and close!
Good luck keeping up with this thread!! They are :ecomcity: !! hehe
I hardly post because I'm constantly just catching up!!!
tinytotsmum
09-04-2009, 14:36
hi all you lovely ladies adn welcome nikki.
well arent we all on a big rollarcoaster. um
tommo as for the pimples my little em has them i think they are from the drop in hormones in there body after being born, and YOU ARE NOT A FAILURE. just had to say that everyone will need help with there child wether it is early stages or late and you are a great mum for tryng to find out what was wrong. have a child with anything wrong with it in the early stages is hard so i feel for you, i watched my mum go through it all with my younger brother he was born with his stomach hanging into his ball sack ehich was serious and the doc didnt believe her until later so he had to have surgury and blah blah yeah all that jazz and it drained her to a point where she could even speak properly.
em is pretty good but she isnt perfect the other day i was a complete mess by the time dh came home she had been awake from 9am and dh got home from work at 6:30pm and she was still awake i was crying tired and just wanted to curl up in the corner he took her and she fell asleep straight away. so i had gotten nothing done as everytime i went to put her to bed she would absolutly scream.
Kar - i think it was someone was talking about there baby smiling and crying tear em smiles all the time but normally it when she is asleep or just stuff never cos i smile at her and she has startedto get her tears only get 1 or 2 but get them almost everytime she cries.
AFM - i am just about ready to rehome my cats stupid bloody things they have been so so naughty jumping up on the table to eat my food cos i have left it for 10 seconds to go and get em cos she is crying just found a bottle on the floor with the whole ball point part of the teat GONE ide say they have swalled it and they are scratching everything being very territorial over emilies stuff which i have been smacking them for as it isnt theres and i have seriously had enough. the seem to take it in turns one day one will be a **** and the next day it is the other ones turn. GRRRRRRR:mad:
well anyway have to go need to clean some stuff whilst em is asleep.
hopefulyl chat to you all soon.
actually to all the perth mums on here i was thinking about having a baby meet somewhere. or was even thinking of starting a baby playgroup type thing as i have had a look and they all seem to be for the older kids. let me know if you would be interested and ill see what i can do.
HELLOOOOO!!!!
thought i would pop in and see how all the beautilful march mummies are going!!!
*hugs to all* i have missed everyone!!
IM GETTING INDUCED 2MORROW!!! FINALLY!! So im over the moon... at the hospy they think he is way to comfy in there but now he is comming out :D
i finally get cuddles!
sorry im rambling, going to check my hospy bag and vacum the floors!!
Love
Kylie
lochie&coopersmum
09-04-2009, 15:57
Hey girls:hugs:
Well i havent posted for ages but have been reading everyone elses posts.
Cooper is a pretty good baby although has some issues with sleeping but i dont think it is too bad just me not used to getting 8hrs of sleep lol.
Lochie is kinda not the happiest with me as i seem to be constantly telling him off for one thing or another. He just doesnt listen at the moment. I feel so bad but i cant let him get away with being a little ****. When he is being good though i make sure he knows it and have been giving him lots of snuggles and teeling him i love him lots too. So hopefully he will be ok soon.
Df and i are doing ok. We arent getting alot of time to snuggle or even talk as Cooper likes everyone to pay attention to him and lets you know about it lol. Df has been starting to play alot of World of Warcraft and have had to tell him that he cant do that as much as he has been.
I am fine with Cooper all day but by the time df comes home from work at 11pm i am so tired and am just needing df to help me out and snuggle Cooper for awhile so i can have some time to myself. But no he comes home kisses me and then straight onto the computer where he stays til about 2am. Im in bed by then if Cooper is being a good boy and sleeping. Anyway kinda went off at df about it and told him thats its not that i cant handle looking after Cooper i just need your support and help sometimes. So he has said he understands and is gonna not play as much THANKGOD!!.
Wow thats abit of a ramble, sorry girls.
Anyway im sure i will post more but right now Cooper is waking up and will probably want more booby lol.
So i swallowed my pride and asked mum to come round this afternoon and look after josh while i organised the house and caught up on housework, WELL, he has slept most of the afternoon, hasn't grizzled once! :hair: Just slept in his pram, woken for a feed, and gone back down! Why cant he do that when im here by myself! anywhoo, i got lots of stuff done, and hopefully me and dh can really relax tommorow.
Josh has only put on 30grams since monday, which isnt great, he has been feeding heaps better and not throwing up as much, so im a bit confused, they are checking him every 3-4 days cause of the reflux and slow gain. i think he is ok tho.
Went for a walk this morning, ended up being out for almost 2 hours! and josh LOVED the pram, so i might try that in the afternoons when he is being a terror.
Beck, sounds like things are pretty full on, im glad you told dh you NEED that help. im having so much trouble with one, let alone a toddler too, so hats off to you, i can imagine it is hard!
missy, YAY:smiliedance: sending you lots of positive birth vibes, i hope it goes fantastically!
Oh, we have the stupid door to door people come round here everyday, now i have josh, i make sure to open the door with him in arms, they get the hint pretty damn quick! hehehe.
tj, i wish i was in perth for a playgroup!!! naughty kittys, i hope they get their act into gear soon! josh does the exact same thing, fights the sleep all day, im a complete mess by the time dh gets in, and then she falls to sleep, agh, its so exhausting isnt it!
mummyJ, cmon, how much easier has it been to keep up now we have bubs to look after, we dont crap on half as much!:laughing:
suby, oh hun, im sorry the hospy stay seemed lonely, i was expecting a huge amount of visitors the day after josh was born, and no one showed up till an hour after visiting hours had started! i was like, what the? dh's only brother didnt bother coming to see him till he was 8 days old:cool: loser.
you know we're always thinking of ya:hugs:
i hope things look up soon, oh, can i come to your place for tea? the roast sounds yummo!
nikki, welcome sweety! it really is a great, supportive bunch of women, i dont know how i wold have got through some days wihtout them honestly. the days seem alot easier knowing there are other people out there going through the same thing.
LIH, you are such a trooper, what a great day of activities! hope you got some rest!
karice, how'd the lazy day go? im hoping for one tommorow, with mum coming, i got all the housework done, joshs room organised, it feels so good, we're having take away for tes, so ahhh, i might be able to have some time 'off' at some stage, yay!
TJ - I keep telling my cat he is going back to the pound...
Sorry girls, no time to post - on my own again tonight and F is protesting heartily re cot despite the fact (or probably because of) he has been protesting and only napping not sleeping all day...
eeyorethedonkey21
09-04-2009, 17:07
tiff i'd be interested
ooooer crap nathan's awake. gotta gooooooooooooooo
Ok, back with a baby who went to sleep - took an hour of resettling which means it is just about time for his feed but never mind, i count it as a success!!
First of all - Kylie good luck for tomorrow, I can't wait to hear your news and have just about our last mummy here!! :kiss:
Tash - I left F with his nana today and went home and cleaned my house. And I don't feel one bit bad about it! We only live about 5 mins drive apart. Apparently he did a good scream which I was secretly glad about because she thinks he never cries and i am making it up... F is often perfect bub on the days his dad is home. Annoys me to be honest, but at least Rich is always here for witching hour.
Tash - I hope you are being a bit careful about yourself - your weight loss sounds extreme, remember you are still recovering from major surgery. I am pretty much back where I started too but it has taken 6 wks not 10 days and I am fully BF so burning up everything I eat that way. Look after yourself please my dear. Sorry, don't mean to sound like your mum.
So glad Josh's feeding is improving.
Welcome Nikki.
Beck, for us it is bloody football supercoach - i flipped out about it and we seem to have less analysing footy stats at least when i am around. I 'explained' rather forcfully that after all day with F I need some adult conversation in the evening, and being told about some player he is going to trade in a make believe footy game does not constitute adult conversation. Also told him that coming home, taking F for play/cuddles and barely acknowledging me is not OK. It is because he is besotted but seriously!
Well, it would seem F has an inguinal hernia :eek: We have appointment with paediatric surgeon next week and if it is confirmed he will have to have surgery :crying: GP told us it is very straight forward procedure, very common etc etc BUT it does require 1-2 days in hospital. It isn't bothering him but apparently they try to correct them asap so it doesn't cause any probs. No point in worrying until we see the surgeon next week. DH spotted it, I didn't think it was anything. Guess he is more sensitive to groin related issues...
F did really well in his own room last night - self settled after both night feeds without any crying. And I slept really well in my own bed!!
Bring on the next 4 days with DH home.
I just finished our announcement cards, should be here within a week (or 2!)
Kar, oh my, even a 'minor' operation is enough to scare the hell out of us! i hope either way it all turns out ok, i can only imagine how upsetting it would be, even when they say its all very common.lots of:hugs:
kar, yes, im sure mum thinks im fibbing that i have such trouble with him! i just cant get over it, he was just perfect all afternoon! im just waiting for it to come and bite us in the bum tonight! Shaun has seen some of the bad stuff, and like when josh will just stay awake, just wont contemplate sleep, it makes it so hard, and the day so long.
your not sounding like mum at all. ;) its nice that you care kristen:kiss:im feeling really good, even though i was overweight to start with, i was quite fit, so im just starting to get back into the swing of things, i know it seems soon, but im feeling up to it.
OH GOD I am so bloody tired but surely F will want a feed soon and it is not worth going to bed?? Last feed was 4.45, which is a really crap time but normally he refuses to go to sleep and I feed him again between 7 and 8.
For me this is the most difficult thing - never knowing how long he will sleep for so very difficult to decide what to do. Guess it will be an absolute max of another hour. Nap on the couch maybe.
Just checking up on you Tash...
i get scared like that too kristen, do i bother going for a sleep, will this be one of his 40 minute sleep,s or a 2 hour sleep? :sleeping:
tinytotsmum
09-04-2009, 23:51
i jsut sleep whenever i want to when they cry they will wake you up i have worked out that if you fuss about how long they will sleep for and decide to stay awake it will be a long sleep and youll be nacked i just lay there adn watch her and then just manage to fall asleep so yeah. i just go to bed when i need to mind you normally if she is getting close to being due to wake she wakes as soon as i lay down must jsut know im there.
eeyorthedonkey - so far it just me and you chicky i guess missyk may want to be there but depends on there move and her going back to work.
tinytotsmum
09-04-2009, 23:55
kar - im sure everythign wil be fine with your little man. a hernia is what i was talking about with my mum and my younger brother when i was talking to tash but it was left for way to long and he just screamed 24/7 and they just kept telling my mum that she was just a worrying first time mum and to go home and relax so at least your doctor has listened to you. he was in hospy for a bit but you would have even know and he was totally different afterwards ( for the better )
anyways though i would just pop in and give my hugs to you.
YAY Kylie!! :smiliedance::smiliedance:
All the best hon - keep in touch, ya? :goodvibes:
tj - well bugger me - my cats have been doing similar things since Abi came home. I never put the stealing food thing down to territory (I just figured Gary wasn't eating his cat food and was really hungry). Will be watching him more closely for other signs and trying to nip this anti-social behaviour in the bud.
Kimmi562
09-04-2009, 23:59
:)hey everyone im new and hoping to met some new people.
eeyorethedonkey21
10-04-2009, 08:04
tj: i think missy said she's moving in about a month? maybe we can do somthing before then. cos i'll be going back to work at the end of april as well. add me to facebook. i'm friends with missy on facebook if u are she'll be able to tell ya my name and stuff.
hi everyone. sorry for lack of personals. i dont seem to be able to sit down long enough to write them.
ugh gotta go feed the cats they're meowing at me.
i'm thinking about yas all and reading along :wave:
:wave: HI Kimmi - welcome
well, my lazy day was pretty urm...lazy. Mind you, I've got a cold as well so that's another reason for me to not feel guilty about it.
good luck missy, I hope all is going well for you, can't wait to hear from you and your bub at long last!!!
ok - minor rant warning : MIL is getting married next week. We have a newborn, we have to pay for the petrol down there (NSW 5 hour drive without a newboen...god knows how long it will take now...), a room down there, DP needs a new shirt for his suit, I need a dress, we still haven't bought a pressie and then there is the other expenses like drinks and food etc... Then, we get a phone call THIS MORNING from DP's sister saying that his brothers and her have decided that we all need to chip in for airfare to get MIL's best friend up from VIC... WTF???? we don't have the money, and they're all playing the guilt card...get stuffed, I can't pull money out of my a$$, had they asked a few months ago, then sure we could of saved the cash somehow, but a few days before they want her to come???!!!! If I was a bloke, I would so love to say "lick my left one...":banghead:
LivingINhope
10-04-2009, 12:56
Nikkiwith1bub – Welcome! The girls here are great and we all love to chat J
SFM – I hope you start feeling better soon, it has not been an easy run. I am glad your mum, aunty and Dp are being very supportive.
MummyJ – that’s the great thing about us girls we love to chat!
TJ – My cats were a mess when I bought DS1 home, infact 1 was so mad he decided to roam and had a run in with a dog and died. We have since got another cat to be a companion to our older cat…but I was sooo devastated. Even now our cats meow all night cause the bedroom doors are shut and try and sleep on anything baby…very annoying. Hang in there they are adjusting to their new life to.
Missyky – YAY! Can’t wait to hear your great news!
Lochie&coopersmum – I am going through a bit of the same with Sebastian it is just lochie adjusting to his life with a new brother, he is testing the boudaries and looking for attention however he can get it. Maybe let lochie sit and hold cooper for aawhile and involve him in the baby tasks, I found when Lucius has a good morning sleep Seb and I play heaps and he is much better for the rest of the day. I am sure you probably do all that already…
Tommo – LOL! When my MIL came for her 1 visit Lucius just slept and she always goes on about what a great baby he is, if only she had a screaming unsettled baby all night to contend with…so I hear ya! Gosh I hope he starts putting on more weight I guess when he eats more he will make sure you start zantac or losec straight away!
Go really easy on yourself exercise is ano go at this stage hun you can end up with hernias and separated stomach muscles so be careful! You have lost a little to much weight to quickly I would say its circumstantial but you need all the energy you can get so eat well and rest when you can.
Kar – no idea what a inguinal hernia is but sounds like something that needs attention really, I know its hard but it’s a must do. I feel bad Lucius is being circumcised next week and its just a choice we made not a has to be done procedure, I am really nervous.
Kimmi562 – Welcome!
Karice – I have several lazy days a week usually when DS1 is at preschool, I am a clean freak but just have no energy to do anything. I am so over people who are oblivious to the newborn and lack of finance factor for us also!
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***WARNING mum and MIL rant****
Well my MIL called this morning to ask if we were going to Sydney and staying with her over Easter. First of all hi we havn't herd from you in over a week and 2ndly we have a newborn, 3rdly your house is not setup for us to stay and is always filthy and I get severe asthma there and 4thly get f****ed.
I mean seriously why she thinks she is the queen beats me...she has 2 grand kids here and its easter maybe she might want to come and see them. For me easter and xmas is a celebration and family time but the day is really about the excitment kids bring to it. My mum also gave no thought to it and is working, god I am glad my kids have 2 loving parents that devote themselves to them their grandparents are crap.
Our grandparnets looked after us most of the time and always helped out, our parents are spoiled brats that think the world owes them.
****RANT OVER***
anyway going to catch some quick Z's before Lucius wakes to feed.
It is a little hernia in the tube that the testes go down. It normally closes over about a month before birth, but apparently lots of times it doesn't particularly with babes who are bit early. Generally causes no probs but can end up with bowel pushing through so they like to fix it straight away.
Karice, I am impressed you are even going and they can get stuffed re $$
Cats!! Sounds like everyone's are causing them grief. My dog is fine now, it is the bloody cat, who is really DH's cat (well, he was meant to be mine but you try telling a cat who to attach too :rolleyes:) so I don't know why he is now all over me!!
i had half a beer after feeding cadence this arvo and was tipsy...oh my...that's so pitiful...i guess that's what happens when u don't drink for over a year...
I used to be able to drink the boys under the table :laughing: oh well, i had my little celebatory drink with DP
kar - :hugs:every parent worries for their kids no matter how routine or common things are, cady so much as sneezes and I worry she's got a cold or something! I guess its good that everything is going to be sorted sooner rather than later but still it must be upsetting
oh dear gotta go sorry girls i'll finish personals later
i hope your all having a great long weekend, even though its not really for us, iykwim!!
we had a nice day relaxing, havnt been able to do that yet, so that was nice,
MIL RANT*****
um, so i had a go at my MIL this sfternoon, she INSISTS on picking josh up and rocking him to sleep when she comes here (always when i dont want him rocked to sleep! and i dont want him in the habit of being rocked, bla, bla, bla) anywho, after the other day when she had bought every man and his dog here, and played passed the parcel with him, josh was hideous that night, wouldnt sleep, was that overstimulated, it just was not funny, thats when i talked to dh and said enough is enough, its not happening, they dont HAVE to cuddle him, they can just LOOK at him if thats the part of the day we're at!
SO, they called round today (might i add they only saw us 4 times whilst i was preggers!) and she went to pick him up (and told me 'what are you doing to him, he has a heat rash-re-the pimples, i told her they are not, its all hormones from the birth, thankyou!) i told her to please leave him in the pram, the other day he got far to overstimulated and wouldnt sleep,
-so she replied with, oh, we've all had kids, and no sleep, they all do that,
-well actually, no, he is quite a good boy when he isnt passed round! and it wont be happening anymore,
-oh, well they like being rocked to sleep, you just have to get used to no sleep,
-well we're trying to not get him in that habit! so it wont be happening!:hair:
it went something like that anyway, i was VERY forceful, she thought it was all a big joke that he wont sleep after she has been here, well in that case lady, dont come around!:banghead:
if i choose to rock him to sleep, thats my choice, but i dnot need her here telling me how to frickin raise him. i generally rock him to sleep during the day, he really needs the attention, then of a night, il feed, burp and pop him in his cot, stay with him, then he nods off.
looks like its the day for MIL rants hey LIH
lih, we havnt started him on the zantac yet, as the thickened formula, together with some infants freind seem to be doing the trick. he still spits up a little, but nothing at all like he was, and he doesnt seem to be in pain. so we're holding out to see if he will need it. he's up to 100ml a feed now, which is well within the right range. he is alot more settled, so hopefully it the reflux is only a mild bout and we dont need too much intervention. the idea of a seperated stomach sends pain down my tummy just thinking about it! lol, i probably am over doing it a bit, but i feel really good, i will take it easy, i promise.
i odnt have a cat, just a dog, and he seems to be coping really well with J, comes in to protect him when he cries, lol. still, keeping a close eye on him.
haha, i used to get very happy on 2 stollies, and i only drank once in a blue moon, so im sure 1 would probably get me pretty happy now! LOL
Well done tommo - putting your foot down can be hard, but when it's in your child's best interests it's all worth it :)
LivingINhope
11-04-2009, 09:32
Tommo - Isn't it great when you become a Mum everyone wants to tell you how to do it...especially mums and MILs. My mum and MIL always scoff at the way I raise my boys and after DS1 I swore I would always tell people what I thought of their ideas. DS1 is a gorgeous well rounded boy and its all down to the way we choose to do things never let other people impress there ideas of how it should be on you.
So glad to hear Josh is doing better thank goodness, god knows he had a rough start with the feeding but I am sure he'll make up for it :D Lucius put on 1.1kg in the first 4 weeks even though we had BF problems to start he spits up alot and grumbles alot but I am hoping he doesn't need medication for his reflux much like you if intervention is not necessary why do it!
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Better fly Lucius is due to feed and MIL claled to say she is on her way up :( have to get prepared for her crap.
ManekiNeko
11-04-2009, 11:54
Hi girls hope everyone is keeping well. Just a quick one from me i'm on my phone hard to type won't have internet for a bit in the new house. Austin is sleeping but i have been so busy unpacking rather than sleeping. Its good to have more room but after living in a townhouse the room is overwhelming. Will do personals when we have net back.
Tash - After our first w/end at home I put my foot down re pass the parcel. I must say, I have found most people wont ask, and I just don't offer! Even my own mum wouldn't just walk in and pick F up without asking. She does however resist my directions to put him in his cot when she has been snuggling him and he is very drowsy. I am standing firm. I was so happy the other day when she was telling me he definitely wouldn't go down if she put him into his cot and I insisted and he just drifted off to sleep :D
Tracey - good luck settling in, moving is such hard work!
LIH - hope it wasn't too painful.
Hope everyone is having a lovely long w.end with DPs at home.
hehe, glad F performed when you wanted him too re the settling:laughing: its just too much for them isnt it? all of the holding, im pretty much doing the same thing, not offering, hehe.
They dont want to give them up when they fall asleep do they? im turing into such a meanie.
poor J's cheeks are covered in pimples, his face is all red.:( poor little tike.
eeyorethedonkey21
11-04-2009, 21:04
who's missy's sms buddy?
cos i got an sms but i dont wanna go announcing it as i wasnt her official sms buddy...
who's missy's sms buddy?
cos i got an sms but i dont wanna go announcing it as i wasnt her official sms buddy...
Me too! I have no idea who her buddy is.
Congrats Kylie! You're little bub is here:smiliedance:
Happy Easter everyone.
Sorry, short post. so much to do this morning!
Jeca - you'll be proud - I am now too one of those women who pulls my boob out anywhere and everywhere:D. The more of us who do it the more accepted it becomes.:thumbsup:(plus, why make indie cry while I try to find somewhere out of the way to feed). I never had the confidence to do that the first time around, glad I found it this time, it makes life so much easier and I don't have to miss out on anything when bub wants to feed and feed and feed and feed when we're out:)
please post details guys!:D
Come guys, we need Missy's news!! I'm sure official buddy won't mind...
I get my boobs out wherever F wants them. My DH dares anyone to say anything or look at us funny :laughing: He is quite rabid on the topic of babies being fed whenever wherever they want to be!!
I agree that the more of us who do it the more acceptable it becomes and the people of who don't like it become the ones with the problem.
Mel - I have read your post in the main section and my heart absolutely goes out to you and your family. What an intuitive switched on mummy you are. :hugs:
Darn, just wrote a whole post with personals and everything and the silly computer froze on me - grrrrrrr. I'll try and remember what I wrote!
NewMe - YAY on the public boob feeding! Giving bub the boob anytime, any place, anywhere is definitely the way to go!! I fed Millie in church this morning! I did have second thoughts for a moment, but then I thought, nah, God knows what we need boobs for, or at least what our babies need our bobbies for!!
Tracey - I hope that the move had gone really well and that you are all settling in well with all your extra space! Very exciting!
Missy - congratulations on your little man Emerick - I hope it was a lovely birth experience and that you are all enjoying your special babymoon time together!
My precious girl is still being a night owl although last night she went from 8-10pm, I fell asleep with her on me, but moved her back into her bed at 11pm and she slept until 3 :smiliedance:, but then after that feed she woke at 4 and 5 and finally DH got up with her at 6.30am so I could sleep in a little. I do hope she sorts out day and night cos she's literally slept from 9 this morning just waking for feeds and falling back to sleep again! I'm not going to start forcing her to be awake, I think it's counterproductive at this age.
Brissie girls, up for another meet at Go Wild in a week or so? I'm keen to take the boys anyway, so it would be a great opportunity for us Mummies to get together! They don't make a bad coffee or hot chocolate!
ETA Missy's news is in the announcements thread in our due in March board!
Hi everyone. Just thought I would quickly pop in and say :wave:
Have had a busy weekend. Visitors on Friday, last night and waiting for some to come any minute. Also expecting some tomorrow afternoon.
Ella has been so good the past few days. Hardley any unsettled time at all. She has her moments but we just hold her for a little while and she eventually nods off to sleep. :fingerscrossed: this continues. I can't believe she is almost 5 weeks old. How time flies! I have almost (but not quite :laughing:) forgotten my labour!
Hope everyone has had a good easter. We are actually celebrating Easter next week since we are Greek Orthodox and the easters fall on different Sundays. So this weekend is just a long weekend.
:smiliedance:Congrats Missy!!!! :smiliedance:
newme - I've only managed one public feed so far, and that was the time that us brissy girls went out for coffee (power in numbers :laughing:) I'm really shy and not the most confident person but I'm working on it. The thing that annoys me more than men giving women cr@p about public feeds is when you make the effort to go to the parent rooms and there is a man in the only available bfeeding bay BOTTLE FEEDING their child and then I'm forced to stand up and bf out in the open anyway...yes it happened, got into quite a heated argument over that one. In the end, another mother came in as my back up and she was quite scary and he ran away :laughing:
Jeca - :yes: I'm keen for another meet, where on earth is go wild though? I should get my GPS back from MIL and SIL after next weekend so I should be able to find it with an address...hopefully they haven't broken it...
well, not much from me today. Dad just came over for his sunday coffee. Now little miss is extremely tired coz she's had big cuddles with granddad :rolleyes: ah well, he doesn't get to see much of her so I'm not going to say anything, at least he lets her sleep instead of trying to wake her up to "do stuff"...honestly what could a 4 week old possibly do anyway? Hmmm, she seems to go to sleep quite well when I put the classical music radio station on in her room, most of the time she seems to enjoy the country station but the classical one seems to send her off to sleep really well...so weird, can kids this age actually like or dislike music etc??? Also, we've noticed that she's obsessed with looking at lights and she really watches the tv. Do you think its just fascinating all the pretty colours and lights or do u think she's actually paying attention to the show? Anyway, violent or swearing tv/movies have been banned while she's in the room just to be safe. She confuses me...
Hi everyone! :)
Happy Easter! Did any of you get anything special from the Easter Bunny?
Just a quick one from me, we are about to head out to my Dad's for a family Easter catch up.
:smiliedance: ***NEWSFLASH*** :smiliedance:
"Kylie and Jack are proud to announce the final arrival of Emerick James! 7 pounds, 50cm long, 30cm head! Born at 4.59pm (April 11)! Mum and bub are doing well!"
Sorry for the delay in getting this news to you girls! I am Missyky's sms buddy... I have been checking my phone regularly but forgot to check my phone last night (she sent me an sms at around 9pm). I posted the birth announcement in the announcements thread as soon as I read it this morning but didn't get time to pop into this thread before we went out this morning. Sorry to keep you all in suspense!
Hope you are all well. Sorry I haven't had time to read all the posts from the last time I popped in yet.. I hope to come back on later this evening.
Wishing you all a lovely long weekend,
Lisa :hugs:
So i told dh last night that he was going to have to get up and do J's night feed...
he got a little stroppy cause he has got up with us (when j would stay up all night screaming, and there was no sleeping for anyone in the house anyway) but since, he hasnt got up for any of his night feeds, sorta felt like i was going it alone iykwim?
so he did his 4am feed (i got up then went back to bed), and then j was up again at 6.30, so i did that one, then the little so and so wouldnt go nback to sleep, so i was up then, and he got to sleep till 10...
i know i shouldnt complain, almost all of you girls are breastfeeding, so there is no break for you...agh, im sorry, im just having a sook...
eeyorethedonkey21
13-04-2009, 07:59
hey everyone
just wanted to share some piccies of my little man
cant believe he's almost 3 weeks old already.
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=65618&id=856949560&l=73ecbe4d3e
i hope everyone is well and had a good easter and didnt over do it on the chocolate.
does anyone know why a baby won't sleep??? she has been wide awake since 6:30 this morning and only slept for 4 hours last night...its now 4:30 pm and she just won't sleep no matter what we do!!!! swaddle, feed, change nappy, change clothes, change swaddle blankets, in cot, in bed with me, in arms, rocking, dummy, breast mikl, formula, car drive...NOTHING WORKS TODAY!!!!!!
J has been the same karice, but he seems to be an 'awake' baby, like he can go three hours awake happily before wanting sleep:rolleyes: i know its not normal, but it seems to be 'the way he is'
is she distressed at all? could she be constipated?
J has been up all afternoon, giving him a feed now, and i think he will go down.
Must be the day for it - F has been up since 8.30 this morning. I am not kidding, has refused to go down at all.
I have just had him on the boob for an hour and a half comfort sucking - he is now in his cot and i am praying that he stays there.
he has been really distressed when not feeding, although it has built up over the day so think largely related to overtired. Doesn't seem to be in pain or anything, just generally upset.
THis is completely out of character. Thank god DH is home.
It's so out of character for Cadence aswell. SHe seems to be weeing and pooing as per usuall. I've tried some infants friend just in case she's a bit backed up or windy but I really think she's just exhausted and won't settle. I got her to sleep for around half and hour, and then out of no where she just started screaming...maybe bad dreams??? She's really screaming the house down today which is very unlike her, she hardly ever scream/cries, she has the average grizzle but this is intense. I'm sure its just coz she's exhausted, she's hardly ever awake for more than 2 hours at a time, and this has been over 12 hours straight now :no:
J slept from 11pm till almost 5 am:eek: last night, went down at 6am, back up at 7.30am, went out for a walk between 10 and 11 where he was asleep from 10-11.30.
then no sleep till 5.30-6.30, he's been a bit of a grizzle bum all day:(
so he has been up for most of the day, i had a girlfreind come round, she was amazed that he was awake the whole time. her little neice (now 13 weeks) just sleeps and eats, im like, not this one!
makes for hard days when they are up all day eh.
sure does make it a looooong hard day. The worst part I find is that I really start to lose patience and get quite distressed and moody myself, which is totally not going to help her get to sleep. I've handed her over to DP for now til I calm down a bit. I've got a book around here somewhere on baby massage...might try to dig it out and give that a go. Can't hurt to try.
Just Add Water
13-04-2009, 20:48
I'm starting to wonder if I'm either super relaxed with DS or just a crap mum perhaps. We have absolutely no routine apart from what he decides. He basically eats every 3 to 4 hours, if he finishes his bottle then yay but when he's had enough he pushes it away and refuses to swallow so it just dribbles out his mouth (he's done this basically since he was born). He usually has anywhere between 120-150mls per feed (we were already on average of 100 when we left the hospital...). Then we're just cruisy with him, he'll have a cuddle, probably have a chuck and a burb. Give him a change and usually change his clothes as he's been sick on them (and I know I couldn't sleep in something I'd thrown up on) and then it's back to sleep.
Here's where I'm wandering on if I'm just relaxed or crap.. he rarely sleeps in his bed. More often than not we'll snuggle with him till he's asleep at night and then fall asleep cuddling him. Or he'll sleep in his swing. If we have people over or we're out then he just gets passed around and has as many cuddles as people want to give him. I haven't had anyone try and wake him up, he just cuddles up and they're happy. As for being overstimulated, he's very alert and has been lifting his head up and look around since he was about a week old. If he's awake then I either put him in his swing if I need to do something or he goes in the Bjorn carrier and comes and does housework with me. Or he goes down to the office and hangs out with DH and the boys in his "office bouncer" (yes, we have one for the office - DH was feeling left out so my mum bought him one).
Is it seriously bad for them to be cuddled by everyone? He is able to settle himself in his bed but I like cuddling him, so does everyone else. I don't see how it can hurt them... *shrugs* I guess with my experiences with DH's kids and their sleeping habits when I first met him then I know I can turn anything around if it becomes a problem so I don't think it's worth stressing over. Oh and when I say he's cuddled by everyone I mean family and friends, I have no intention of handing him over to strangers :)
I was very cranky today but managed to get my crap together to go out for a bbq with some friends. We've actually had quite a social weekend catching up with several groups of friends and introducing DS to a few of them (and he was spoilt rotten by them!!). DH, DS & I had Saturday on our own and it was quite nice to be honest. The kids were at their mothers (whole other story).
I want to go to bed but am being stubborn about it. DH has DS and I think he'll try and keep him tonight and do the feeds as I have been refusing to wake him for the last few days as he's had a cold and oh my god I got fed up with hearing about his cold and him being tired so now I'm tired and cranky and I think he's fed up with it.
My goodness I'm rambling.
Anyone want a five year old for the holidays? That girl is going to be the death of me. If I was a really horrible person I'd put thumb tacks on the floor outside her door just so she'd stay in her room past 5am just for one morning (I'd leave her a path to the toilet, I'm not that cruel....). Oh it's only a thought. Reality is I'm going to wake her up at 3.30 and put her on the toilet and give her some night time cough medicine. Hopefully then she'll wake up much nicer and with her cold nearly gone.
I might come back later. I have definitely been reading, but feel out of it a bit for some reason. Stupid hormones I think.
Oh and re sizing (was it here or on FB? No idea..). DS is wearing 00... the bonds wondersuits in this size fit him but they're generally small sizes. Everything else is a bit big on him and too long but he had heaps bought for him and I can't see the point in getting him 000's apart from the few he has.
I so obviously need more chocolate as my brain is failing.
Nomadic - we're almost the same with Abi. I'm trying a few things to settle her in her cot because she hates sleeping there at night, prefering (obviously) to sleep on my chest. I give in to her in the end just to get a few hours' sleep myself. I also suspect she is primarily a tummy sleeper (which makes it hard to settle her on her back in the cot). I mean, I know how important and critical all the SIDS advice is, but by the gods - what is their advice for settling tummy sleepers!!??? *sigh* So Abi sleeps in all sorts of places, and we love stealing sleepy cuddles from her (because they're so much nicer than the screamy ones), so yeh. If you're a crap mum, so am I.
oh, nomadic, dont get me wrong, if bubs is fine with cuddles from everyone, i have NOTHING wrong with that, your lucky! i just find J gets overstimulated, and is hidious to settle when everyone has had him. He too is a very alert baby, has been from word go, he's been lifting his head up the whole time, looks around, very much into what is going on.
everyonw that comes round is just gobsmacked with him, and how alert he is, they think i lied and he is now a month or 2 old (except for the fact he is still so teeny, hehe), my girlfreind today, has a neice who is now 13 weeks old, she said she spent all day with her at 8 weeks trying to get some awake time, and she just sleeps, i laughed, i wish!:laughing:
i just figure, why make my life harder than it has to be just so they can have their cuddle if its at a time that isnt 'convenient' for me. maybe im the crap mum for not letting them?
We just have to go to so much effort to get J to sleep, i cant handle pleasing people when it will make my day harder.
I think if B is happy the way your doing things, then keep it up!:D you know what is best for him! He sounds content, so i wouldnt change a thing.
karice, J seems to hate massage! maybe he will like it later on, but now, ugh, no special massages for him:laughing: he seems to already get the, 'mum, WHAT are you doing?!?!' its pretty funny.
eeyore, love the pics, i squized at them on FB, just gorgous!!!!
so, tough day all round with J, as above posts, sleeping was pretty much out the window. he napped after his bottle for 10 mins, tried to put him down, nup, back up again.
we're still going up every couple of minutes to put the dummy in, but its been about 10 minutes since we've been up, so maybe he is asleep? which would be right, we like him to have a feed by 10.30, so he is down by 11.30, so we can :sleeping:... ah, we'l see how it all pans out eh.
tossing up whether to go to the MCHN tommorow, they said to to get J weighed, but they only have the open session from 10-11, dont know if il make it. depends on how tonight goes.
hope everyone is going well,
tee, tj, pebbles, suby, kar, eeyore, melly, freya, bongos, tales, missy(cant wait till your back sweets!), everyone, how are you???
lochie&coopersmum
14-04-2009, 09:49
Nomadic you are so not a bad mum. We are exactly the same here. Cooper is sleeping in our bed now as he hates his basinett. I am not sure why he hates it so much but as soon as u put him in it he cracks the poos lol. So he sleeps with us and everyone has told us not to do it but i would rather get like 8hrs of sleep with one feed at 5am then be awake for half the night trying to get him to sleep in his basinett.
Anyway you arent a bad mum :)
My baby theory is do what ever makes most of you happy most of the time!!
F slept on DH from 9 last night through to 1.30, had a feed, went in his cot, feed at 5 in bed with us at 7, fed in bed then we dozed in bed together until 9.30 time for another feed.
This is not completely normal for us because he normally doesn't have a problem sleeping in his cot but if it is not working we are adaptable!
Well, F slept for 45 mns at 6.30, feed him at 8 With both of us crying then left him to DH where he slept until 1.30.
Happier bub today but still being sleep resistant. Think it will be a cuddle on the couch day. OK, has been down for 12 mins and is crying...
See ya!
Karice - don't worry, I get the same and just feel like I am the worst person in the world.
so in the end i took the dummy away and let cady use me as the dummy, not something i like to do (fall asleep on the boobs) coz im usually massively painfuly engorged within 2 hours :no: but at least she slept after 18 bloody hours...
tommo - yeah massage was a no-go here aswell, but i might try again when she's not so frantic
nomadic - ur not a bad mum
F hates it too, although he loves gentle sweeping strokes on his back with dry hands.
Well, we are on day 2 of no sleep and screaming. Actually, it all started on Sunday afternoon, so day 2 and a half.
hmm, lets see if i get the chance to finish my post this time ... :rolleyes:
what I was going to say is :
nomadic - you are not a bad mum. Every baby is different and what makes one baby happy could make another baby miserable. You know what your baby likes and dislikes and what your baby can handle so there is nothing wrong with going with the flow to make your day as easy as possible. What is the point in trying to fight with a baby? You'll just end up stressed and so will bub. Also, babies can't tell the time, they eat when they're hungry, poop when they're needing to and sleep (supposedly...this could be argued in our house at the moment :laughing:...) when they're tired. If you're happy and baby is happy then don't worry about it! There's no magic instruction manual for this stuff and there is no such thing as a right or wrong way of doing things. If it works, it works if it don't it don't and anyone that tries to make you feel bad for your working methods can go to hell. :hugs:
oh kar - :hugs:i hope u get some sleep soon. cady's being weird today...shes really tired nit sleeping but not screaming either. she calls out for me and when i walk in the room she cracks up with the giggles...hmmm...no t sure what i do here...
Ella has not slept all day! Agghhhh!!! I have done nothing but hold her and feed her. Please let her sleep tonight. My house is a mess and I have work to do!!!
Ok just needed to get that off my chest. :o
mks - its the week for it sweeti :hugs:a friend suggested to me on facebook that it could be due to growth spurts
Welcome to our club MKS - what the hell is going on with these babes??
OK - F is asleep in his rocker wrapped with the vibrator setting on. Please let him stay asleep for more than 15mins.
We have managed 40mins sleep since 9.30 this morning while out in the pram, which is better than yesterday's none!!
I do think it is growth spurt related - F is feeding every 2-2.5hrs and will get sleepy and drowsy but then refuse to actually sleep - he will fall asleep on me then wake after 2mins cracking it.
Major growth spurts are meant to be around 3wks, 6wks and 12wks. 6 wks is a big one according to my MCHN. F is 7 wks today but I guess these things don't go like clockwork.
I am going to try an ebm top up after his next feed. I am wondering whether he is not getting full. He has never had a bottle though so don't actually expect him to take it. Trying to quickly read up on how you give a baby a bottle - I have no idea, just took our only bottle out of the packet and am steralising it now.
Good luck girls
:hugs:
hmm, j has actually slept today...
last time he had good day sleeps, i was up all night, :rolleyes: i hope not. i dont sleep during the day at all so treasure the 2x2 and a half hour sleeps i get of a night at the moment...
is anyone else not getting day sleeps?
his feeds are all mucked up cause he has slept through his afternoon feed (4.30ish), which means he will want onw at 6ish, which mucks the whole night up, fingers crossed it wont:fingerscrossed:
he put on over 200gms in 5 days, yay... must be doing something right!
ok, must go, have lots to get done before he wakes, which could be any time now!
F took 100mls of ebm in about 5mins after BFing for 40 mins. He has never had a bottle before. He has had a bit of a spew but is quiet, content and happy for the first time in 2 days.
I am feeling a bit deflated and sad. Can't believe he has been starving. On the other hand, my supply will be up in a couple of days - by which time the growth spurt will probably be over!
Better work out how to express more efficiently - takes me 2 days to get 120mls...
How can you have too fast let down and not enough milk??
our probably right kar, your supply will be fantastic in a couple of days, just a cocuple of days too late... could you try expressing extra when it comes through for the next growth spurt?
i can very much understand how hard it is to see them gobble down a huge amount from a bottle after spending so much time on the boob. :(
your supply will be better soon:hugs:
J is still sleeping, we offered him a feed and he took it half asleep. we changed his formula last night, and looks like it might be really agreeng with him. his skin is clearing up before our eyes, it amazing. fingers crossed we are finally getting somewhere (just as we're about to head into the 3 week growth spurt, LOL)
Just Add Water
14-04-2009, 20:19
Wow, wasn't I just in a rambling mood last night? :laughing:
I actually don't think I'm a failure (but thanks for reminding me that I'm not the only one that thinks that :yes:), I'm actually quite surprised at how well I'm doing most of the time. I guess I was just wandering about it all because it amazes me how quickly we all form our own ways of parenting and the age old question of whether or not there is a right way or a wrong way... which of course there isn't :rolleyes:
Bayley has had a couple of restless days as well, he is napping during the day unless being cuddled (though surprisingly I put him on a blanket on the floor and he fell asleep for ages). He is really windy and this is causing him some stomach pains so I've been rubbing his tummy and his legs and that seems to be helping. We have been using infants friend as I was told not to use Gripe Water until they were 6 months, turns out there are different types, so DH bought some tonight so we'll be trying that with his next feed. He has just woken up from a four hour sleep though which was nice (though he woke up within 30 seconds of DH walking out the door and me deciding I wanted to go to the toilet LOL).
I was reading some comments on FB about something called "showering".. what is this thing that people are talking of? I also saw someone mention "shaved legs".. now that I have absolutely no idea about.
OK, so I'm going to ask (never thought I would as I'm generally quite a private person about this but hey, not with this group!! :o) - how long after bubs was born did you have sex? Bayley was 5 weeks on Sunday and we still haven't. I only stopped bleeding a week ago, my stitches still get tingly and I still get a throbbing feeling down the right side of my vagina (anyone else get that?). DH is really quite understanding but I also know he would lay down in front of a semi trailer if it increased his chances at this stage.
We're talking about heading to Adelaide at some stage soon to do the show and tell thing with DH's family - I'll let you know when I do, perhaps we can organise a get together for when we're down there? (Beck, as I said, Miss 5 will make Master 6 look like an angel!).
I've just put a thread in the general chat section about babies being gross. Bayley has sneezed on me a few times. With a mouth full of regurgetated milk so it ended up all over me and on my face. That is the grossest thing I think he could do. I seriously think I would prefer him to pee on me (which he has done too LOL).
LivingINhope
14-04-2009, 21:02
WOW! sounds like all of you have babies that sleep at night and not in the day...man I wish. Lucius (bless him) sleeps heaps during the day and is up all night which is fabulous when I have a 3yo to run around after. He grumbles all night, his gas is ridiculous I mean he puts his dad to shame OMG:p I suspect its all reflux related just like DS1. I think I am just more prepared for it this time. my saving grace is Ds2 takes a dummy DS1 didn't and it tends to help him work out his gas. On the down side some nights I feel like all I do is keep reputting his dummy in his mouth.
He has put on so much weight so I am not worried about his feeding or holding him out a little which helps his belly, the longer he sleeps the better he digests so it kinda works.
Karice and Tommo DS1 was awake like all the time and super alert, DS2 is alert and strong (lifting his head ect) when he is awake...but he does get cranky and tired and goes to bed. DS1 I swear had catnaps all day and night...very exhausting.
Take care of yourselves and sleep when you can forget everything else:hugs:
LiH - Nocturnal babies are fun aren't they? Abi's primary awake time is between the hours of 10pm and 4am atm. I'm pretty much the same as a result, but my body is fighting it.. so I'm pretty well tired all the time. On the plus side, I get a fair bit done between feeds during the day because she sleeps so much. If only she'd sleep in her cot, I'd feel like we were getting somewhere. But one battle at a time. Sleeping at night would be nicer. Since I am her dummy, I don't even get a break then lol. I'm convinced she's haivng a growth spurt atm too, so the half hour feeds now last anywhere between an hour and three of cluster feeds and grizzling before she seems satisfied. Night before last it was 4 hours (12am-4am) of continuous cluster feeding. I was pretty shattered yesterday. Got more sleep last night but she was still grizzly and unsatisfied - at first. After about two hours of feeding (from both sides - twice), she finally nodded off again. I'm pretty much taking it one feed, and one day, at a time :)
I've tried to write this post 4 times now and Safari keeps freezing - grrr - I should try and use Explorer shouldn't I!
Like so many of us, we had a grim day yesterday with Millie being very wakeful and awake and miserable from 7am to 12pm. She fell asleep while I was having my haircut as she finally took the dummy. I've never gone the dummy before with my kids - they wouldn't take them, but when Millie is completely overtired it really seems to help. I am able to convince her she doesn't need booby to go to sleep so I'm not overfeeding her. She's been bringing a little milk up after her feeds the last 48 hours. I don't think it's reflux, I think she's just overfull - I've got SOOOOOOOOOOOO much milk! And FWIW LIH and Tales, Millie's a party girl too, she likes to be awake and have company overnight. Last night she was laying in her cot giving us the most beautiful smiles, happy as Larry, just wanted some company - I like sleep Miss, more of that at night please!!!
Hi Ladies
Been reading but haven't really had the chance to post lately. Oops S is crying now will pause here & be back soon......
Ok take 2, it's 8.41 am lets see how long she stays asleep for this time.
So it sounds like a lot of us are in the same boat at the moment with all our little bubbas growing like wild fire.
I went through it last Wednesday as well, but yesterday was by far the worst day I've had with S to date. She just wouldn't sleep for any longer than 10 mins. I did manage to get an hours sleep from her but that was it. It was worse I guess cause dh had a bad day & didn't get home from work until close to 5. He is normally home anytime after 12 pm. I even got to the point where I tried to give her a dummy, 2 different kinds, but she didn't even know what to do with it. She just held it in her mouth for a second then spat it out.
Thankfully she finally went down at around 7.30 pm & slept until 11.30 pm. She hasn't really given us a bad run during the night, touch wood!!!!
Nomadic - it was me that mentioned showering on FB. God it was good to finally shower & wash my hair last night once dh has home. Silly me though instead of taking that time to have some me time I decided it was finally time to clean the shower. For weeks I've been getting in the shower thinking "I must clean it next time I get in here" but then I forget & just put it off again & again. I'd had enough of how gross it was last night & just got stuck in to it.
Question - does anyone elee's bub frown alot? S is always frowning, particularily when on the boob. I'm not sure if it's my fault as dh says I frown a lot myself. I don't even realise I'm doing it most of the time until he asks what is wrong. It's not that I'm frowning it more like I'm thinking or concentrating on something. I wondering if this is the same for S. My mum thinks she is going to be a semi serious child with crazy parents LOL!
I've decided that I'm getting my hair done this week sometime. I want to cut it to around shoulder length, layered & have some nice warm foils put in. Then after I've managed to get down to a size 10, currently a big 12, small 14, I'm going to buy myself a whole new wardrobe.
So not long now until Mothers Day!!!!! I can't wait plus dh's birthday is the next day as well. I'm hoping for a pandora braclet but unless Mr Rudd's money comes before then I'll have to wait. Dh is getting me one of the cute baby charms as a "pushing present" :laughing: as well.
Well ok so seeing she's still down I guess I should have some breakfast & try to get some washing hung out.
Hope everyone has a better day today!
Tash - did you still want me to mail you the Dr Brown bottle I have?
Just Add Water
15-04-2009, 09:47
Ugh. I am having a lazy day and so are the kids. No getting dressed, just dvds for them and if they want to eat chocolate then they can go for it. Bayley and I were snuggling in bed. Then up the stairs comes two more kids. One of our employees (who we also socialise with a fair bit) is off this week but has come in for some reason so his kids are here too. Now, usually I would be up, tidying up the house, offering cake and drinks (or whatever I have on hand) but meh. I'm still in my bed, the kids are playing together quite nicely and Bayley and I are going to stay right here where it's warm.
I am so rude. I really should get up and get dressed. Bugger.
blah...need a shower...i hate the milk smell
Cady seems to be sleeping ok during the night, it's just getting her to actually give in and go to sleep that seems to be the problem. We had a victory last night, she actually went to bed at 11pm, that's her earliest yet, slept till 2:30, feed, nappy change, then slept till 5:30, same deal again, slept till 7am. Then DP got up for work, so then we napped in bed together. I think I may have created a monster as far as that goes...for the last week once DP is out of the bed, I've been bringing her into the bed and we nap together. It's the only way I can make sure that I get some sleep while I'm on my own. But now I think that she expects to be brought in the bed in the morning, coz this morning she made quite a fuss until I brought her in...hmm...:rolleyes:
I'm lucky if I can get Cady to go down for one good day sleep. She's been awake most days from around 10am until whenever I can get her to take a nap. Once I get her to sleep she's normally down for 2 hours or so. She seems to have started to drift off at the moment.
I've noticed last night that she makes a whole lot of fuss even though she's soooo tired, but I think she just wants attention from me...she cracks the poos if her Dad picks her up, but as soon as I walk into the room she's quiet, quite content to sit in her cot and look at me but she won't sleep. So last night I stood in the doorway after I tucked her in. SHe doesn't cry, it's not even a squawk, it's more just babble to herself, which I think she's picked up on that I respond to. After about 10 mins of not going to the cot, she went to sleep :eek: out like a light...
do 4 week olds do that??? I didn't think they did...
LivingINhope
15-04-2009, 19:57
Tales - sounds like she is snack feeding DS1 used to do that cause he had reflux, at night your flow is alot slower which is why feeds at night take longer good for bubs but exhausting for the mums. I have been told unless its been at least 2hrs not to offer any more milk, to be honest if I feed more than that Lucius gets such a bad belly ache its a vicious cycle. Hope she sleps well tonight :D
Jeca - sounds like Millie and Lucius are making us go through the party years early:laughing: maybe they'll be good teenagers:laughing:
Nae - i hear ya! I can't wait to get my hair done and as for clothes with Ds1 was a size 12 now a size 16 so I have a bit of work to do.
Nomadic - I joined you on the lazy day unfortunatley much to DS1s protest, man the tantrums in this house today have been so full on.
Karice - :laughing: its all about the milk factor at this age unfortunatley, your DH just doesn't have the goods. My Dh gets offended sometimes when Lucius settles with me instantly after he has tried for ages.
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As fo me Sebastian has been feral and I am sure its my fault cause i am so over tired and less patient...but OMG! I am so exhausted did not get a day sleep, the boys did but of course out of sync adn Sebastian was cranky alllll day!
I had a call from a cousin I have not met today, she was adopted out such a spin out talking to her. I am so excited I am between 12-15 years older than my other cousins and she is a few years older than me so it will be nice to get to know her. Although I may have scared her off telling her honestly about the family...we'll see.
J started doing sloppy poos again yesterday, yay!
he has been so good today, actually sleeping, but has started cracking it from about 6 tonight, hasnt slept, so is now over tired and cant get him to go down, agh...
have him in the carrier at the moment, he is dozing off, but is due for a feed in the next half to an hour, so it wont be much more than a nap.
taking him to see the chiropractor tommorow to help with his sleep and reflux, will let you know how it goes.
so dh and i have come to an agreement, il get up and do the 3am ish feed, and he will 'sleep throuhg', and he will get up and do the 6.30ish feed, and il sleep through there. so im feeling a bit better (and less resentful) about that. its hard with the bottle feeding, you have to really wake up to do it, oh, how i wish i could do a sleepy feed:sleeping:
tinytotsmum
15-04-2009, 23:37
hmm hi ladies.
well from me i just a big downer now really em has just been so much hard work and i cant see any reason for it ind you the neighbours and our cats arent helping i ended up getting a baby sling so i pretty much got myself another pair of hands and when she has her day she has it bad today nothing i did helped i put her down she cried picked her up she cried changed her, fed her ( through the milk ), burped her she cried through it all and when i finally got her to settle the cats would jump on her or decide it was play time and wake her and if i had her locked in a room the neighbour would bang a door or start his **** **** car and wake her. i am at the point were i am ready to seel the cats and hide somewhere.
i made an appointment to see my psycologist today but cant see her till tuesday next week as i have been feeling like i cant cope and just want to leave em somewhere so i can get away from her ( but dont ) and have had a thought or 2 pop into my mind about blocking her nose cos if she cant breathe she cant scream and i feel horrible for it i would never do it god dont get me wrong i love my daughter so so so sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o much that is why i made the appointment straight afterwards maybe i need to go on the meds that i was ment to go on whilst preg. i am just crying pretty much all day and am just down all the time and only seems every now and then i may smile. anyway that is all a bit down but i needed to get it all of my chest.
i feel like a horrible mother just for thinking about it but i just cant seem to handle her screams for 3 hours straight. the screams are like she is in agony but i cant find anything wrong woth her.
also has anyone heard of a child well um "huff" it easier if i do it this way. i had em on the normal s26 stage one but she got constipated so i have put her on the s26 gold and she is pooping heaps better but i am wondering wether her screaming in pain has something to do with the formula wether it is maker her hurt internally. might make a appointment with the doc tomorrow and just ask but thought i would see if anyone has had the same prob at all. she isnt constipated or throwing it up but has been restless and screaming and crying alot and that is all i can really think off, so might try another gold formula as well as see the doc. or i guess i can wait i see my midwife on the 20th.
hmmm so much going ongod i am going nuts and my mum is really sick also and well yeah i wont bring you all down with me so ill stop babbaling.
oh um also has anyone still found they are suffering from really bad heartburn again. i dont eat anything and i still get it in the afternoon and it is driving me mad.
tj, i know how your feeling, if J was still screaming like he has a week ago, i dont know where i would be, i had some pretty low days, it just makes you feel terrible.
seeing as she isnt throwing up, perhaps could she have silent reflux? where she gets the pain, but not the spew???????
I think it best to see the psycholgist, get the meds, just to help the headspace. its really hard dealing with this huge change, especially if em is screaming all day. do you have a midwife you could go see? or MCHN? someone you can talk to about the screaming. they really can help, it was the midwives that helped me with J, dodnt get me wrong, we still have our stressful days and times, but he doesnt scream all day long, which was the hardest thing of all.
i def think you need em to see someone, see whether she is in pain, and why sweets.
:hugs:look after yourself, i know how low ou can feel with this huge change, all you wanted was a baby, we've waited so long, and now we have it, it is so much more than we thought, but, each day gets better here, so hopefully once you start figuring out whats wrong with em, so will yours.
(we had J on s26 anti reflux (AR), which worked much better, but still constipating him, changed him to karicare AR a day and a half ago, and its working heaps better. i have also heard good things and NAN)
Hi girls I've been reading on the iPod during feeds but it's hard to reply on here.
Tj huge hugs. You are taking the right steps by seeing your pshyc and getting em checked for pains, things will get better. It might take some time but it will get better.
We're going well. Off to a wedding tomorrow then dreamworld again on Sunday then my brother and his gf arrive from Perth on Monday. Full on few days. We're finally getting settled on staff and now have 3 people who we can slot nicely into 3 roles.
I couldn't get back to sleep this morning after the 2 feed so I went and reconcilled all our bank accounts lol I'm so sad!
Have our 6 week check ups next week too which will be nice to have out of the way so we can recluse at home again. I must say I'm really enjoying just hanging out at home with my girls. I couldn't handle just being at home with dd1 when she was born but love it this time Apart from needing the occasional social outing to save my sanity especially when dd1 is home. LOL poor girl though it's been a hard transition for her from the busy weeks we had pre birth to the subdued days at home post birth. Really need to start taking her back to the library weekly for story and craft time.
I hope everyone is well. I'm thinking of you all
Hey all :)
TJ - A lot of mums feel the way you do, so don't feel bad. I had pretty severe postnatal with DS and had to work through a lot of the same stuff. And even now, I still have my moments. You know, it doesn't hurt the bub to put them down to cry while you get a breath of fresh air. It's one of the things that saves my sanity this time around. If DD is having a grizzly day and my nerves are frayed, I put her in her cot, close the door and go to the backyard for 5 or 10 minutes. It's enough time for me to regroup and deal with her again.
Not enough women talk about the bad feelings that they experience with having babies, it's this whole silent epidemic. It's terrible. I remember I felt so alone when I had postnatal with DS because women on the forums would mostly only post about how well everything was going - and I know now that there was probably a lot of hard moments in between the good times. Good to see that this group is more honest about how things really are.
The huffing could be wind pain? Does she fart a lot? DD grunted a lot for the first 4 or 5 weeks and we've recently switched formula and the grunting has settled a lot - so it could definitely be the formula. Put yourself on Zantac or something for the heartburn too, I've still got reflux and indigestion probs after pregnancy too - bummer huh?
Tash - hooray about the poos :D i hope the chiropractor helps some.
LIH - are you going to meet up with your cousin? does she live near you? how exciting :D i don't have anything to do with my cousins, i wish i did though.
karice - if you enjoy having a nap with her in the mornings, then what does it matter? sounds lovely to me :D your bub sounds very alert! with DS we got into the habit of staying in the room til he fell asleep - a habit that we only managed to break, *cough* a few months ago :o
nomadic - we all need lazy days :D i have many of them, hahahaha. i rarely even bother to put pants on anymore. it's got to the stage that if i do put pants on DS always asks me whether we're going out in the car. haha!
nae - i'm thinking of asking for a pandora bracelet as well! i'm excited about mother's day. DP isn't good on picking up on hints so i think i'm going ot have to ask for what i want straight out for once. i know i want pancakes for breakfast.
Hi everyone else! Sorry, have to keep it short because I have a tonne to do this morning. I keep ignoring my chore list and now I have a million people to ring, and a thousand places to go. Gah. Things are pretty good this way. I've been reading everyone's posts when I can, I just haven't had time to post. I also feel guilty posting because Grace is actually a really good baby and I feel like a right *** coming in and saying that when some of you ladies have had rough nights and so on. For what it's worth, my son was a terror when he was a baby - so I've been through that too (and I probably would have wanted to throttle anybody gloating about having a good baby!)
But she is good, she feeds every 4 hours, burps, poops once a day, sleeps the rest. I feel really lucky. DP is helping me out a lot as I've battled depression since the whole hospital saga, not post-natal as such but more really down moods because my health has been astonishingly baaad. So DP does the night feeds so I get a full nights sleep and he's really hands on - it's saved my sanity. He even keeps the house clean! I guess he's terrified of me going through what I did last time, it was such a nightmare. I'm certain that it's because of his help that I've managed to avoid post natal this time around, I've certainly been close to it. A scary feeling.
We got our first smile a few days ago (my mum got the first smile about a week ago, damn it!). I was bathing her and she grinned. She's really hard to get smiles out of - only have had one more since then. And she's 7 weeks old today. DS was smiling since 4 weeks, so I'm antsy for her to get going properly!
She started getting really bad reflux for about a week there and I was about to take her to the doctors and thought I'd try changing formulas first. DS was on Karicare as a bub and did so well, so we swapped from Nan to Karicare again with DD - and she's been an absolute dream since then. Thumbs up. I think Karicare is a bit thicker, it stays down easier than the Nan was (omg it was just all pouring back out her mouth!)
Took the kids to the botanical gardens yesterday. It's the first time I've ventured out with both, I've been too tired/sick/nervous to before now. But it went really well. DD cried all afternoon and by the time DP came home, I was exhausted- but within 2 minutes he'd discovered the source of the grizzling - she had a rash in the folds of her legs. Um, I still feel so bad. He put cream on it and she went straight to sleep. Doh.
Anyway hi to all!
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 08:10
Yay!! Tee's back :) Have been thinking of you and was going to come on here today and ask if anyone had heard from you. So happy for you that things are working out.
NewMe - sounds like things are getting busier for you. We're the opposite in this house, I had so many lazy days before Bayley arrived that every day seems busy, even when we do very little. But we have been venturing out a lot more of late which is good.
TJ - hon, get all the help you can. The others are right, things aren't spoken about when they're not going well unfortunately but so glad that you felt you could be honest here, it's amazing what a difference it makes to just let someone know *hugs*. It must be hard with your mum not being well, hopefully she gets better soon. Don't be afraid of letting Em cry either. I have been in the exact same position with Miss Five, I have seriously had moments where I have had to make myself walk away as I felt like I could really do some damage to her (having images of throwing her against a wall was scary so I do understand). As I've said before the best thing I did was start seeing someone. Taking anti-depressents isn't the worst thing in the world and it's not like you're committing your life to them. Please come back and let it out here whenever your need to. If you want to chat about how you're feeling then PM me and I'll send you my number or send me yours. It's a rough ride and you shouldn't feel alone with it *hugs*
Tommo - glad things are getting better for Josh. It's amazing what the forumla can do for them. I always thought they were all pretty much the same but the effects of each one can vary dramatically.
LIH - sorry to hear that seb has been a bugger for you. Hopefully the boys get their act together today and realise that mum needs her sleep too :) Bayley is wearing a shirt at the moment that says "Why do I have to go to bed when it's mum who's tired?". So true!
Karice - Bayley does a whole heap of gurgling and chatting to himself when he is put in his bassinet to sleep. He doesn't do it when he's curled up with me. DH put him in his bassinet last night and it was driving me insane but I let him go and he did eventually stop and fall asleep. He is making a lot more noises and sounds though he has been "talking" since he was about 2 weeks old. I thought it was just normal but the midwife said it was early. It was this really cute sound, like an old man sighing LOL
Nae - How was the holiday?? It sounds like you're getting yourself ready for a complete makeover! I am going to go and get my hair done in a couple of weeks as I haven't had it done since July and that is really slack. I'm not even thinking about losing weight at the moment. I am fitting into some of my clothes but still wearing my stretchy pregnancy pants. Meh, I'll worry about it later (though I do need to stop eating easter eggs as otherwise I'll end up looking 9 months pregnant again).
Jeca - it's hard to get upset when they're just so damn cute isn't it? Even in the middle of the night :) Bayley has a dummy and he generally will take it to settle and then he spits it out once he's falling asleep. He doesn't always use it but he was given it in hospital. He also will spit it and throw it if he's throwing a tantrum which is quite cute to watch as well (can already see his attitude coming out).
Hi to everyone else :) I'll come back later and try and catch up some more. The kids are being taken out today by the friend / employee that dropped by yesterday. He's taking five kids to putt-putt which either makes him very stupid or very brave. Miss 5 & Master 4 have both woken up very well rested and slightly hyper so I really don't envy him LOL.
I haven't even gotten out of bed yet... DH got up and made me a coffee and then another one as the first one was too strong (I was going to drink it anyway but he tipped it out). Then he got the kids breakfast despite me saying I would. I have been directing the tidying of bedrooms from bed and Bayley is with me. Fed, changed (twice already!!!), burped and now asleep again.
We are using the Karicare Gold + formula which seems to be doing the trick. He was on S26 in hospital and then Lactogen, both which made him constipated. Now he basically poos once a day (generally in the morning) and is sleeping a lot better. He is still getting a lot of wind but we are giving him gripe water and that seems to have eased that up as well.
Not sure what I'm going to do today. I need to go and get Bayley's birth certificate (am I the only one who hasn't done that yet? :o) and go to centrelink to do the rest of the paperwork. I need to do a nappy shop as well. He's 6 weeks old on Sunday and it will be the first time I've bought some. DH bought some and then we were giving a heap which was a great gift!
Oh, and speaking of nappies.. Toys R Us has a promotion on.. if you spend $20 instore then you get a box of nappies for $30 (about $12 off), so it's worth it if you're going to be there anyway. We have all three kids birthdays cominng up in the next 8 weeks so I'll be heading there anyway.
Ok, hope everyone has a lovely day :)
looks like karicare (AR for us) is a winner all round... J seems so much better on it:yes: its just interesting to see that so many of us are on it, considering they all react differently, it seems to agree with the majority of bubs.
our chiropractor was in shock at how alert and strong little josh was, he was like, 'gosh mate, you could have come out a few weeks early and given mum a bit of a break! newborns arnt spose to have this much go!':laughing: yes, we will be chasing him round soon enough im sure...
so he thinks he was having a bit of a problem in his neck and left shoulder, and he did some adjustment on his hips, so we'll see how he goes. he said he did an adjustment on a 5 week old last week and he slept for 12 hours that night:eek:, i know they cant go that long without food, so he must have been VERY tired...
so we go back next week for a follow up.
J slept from 11.30 last night till 5am, oh my! pity i kept waking up and going on checking on him!! then he slept from 5.30 through till almost 9, ahhh, would have been nice to have been in bed for that one (was up at 7 getting ready to go to the chiro) THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SOOOO NICE! now he prob wont sleep all day..
tee, dont feel bad about having a good bub, you've had a pretty rough trot, so you deserve a bit of a break lufly!
nomadic, ive sent away for the birth cert, but dont have it yet...
newme, im not sure reconciliation at 2am is a good idea!:laughing:
tinytotsmum
16-04-2009, 08:43
tee- em is farting constantly so that why i didnt think wind cos it always coming out of her both ends. the refux thing could be something cos after about 100mls she screws up her face at it like it is off and gaggs sometimes goes one further and adds in a vomit.
mumma2ajem
16-04-2009, 09:09
to those having trobule with formulas i tried s26,karicare golds but found they were no good for jemma so i switched to the heinz gold and it is absolutely brilliant she poops everyday, no vomit, no belly pains...
just want to know what size are everyones lil bubs wearing and how old are they jem is 6 weeks old and is still wearing 5 zeros and four zeros but she is very long so the 5 zeros are a bit short but the 4 zeros r ok but 3 zeros just swim on her is it normal for her to be in the one size for so long???
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 09:49
Misslouie - DS will be 6 weeks on Sunday. He is wearing 00's... he is actually 000 but I only have a few things in that size (never even tried a 0000 on him but doubt it would fit). The 00's are a bit big on him but I put socks over the feet of his one piece suits to keep them on. They don't look too big on him though so it's all good. I just didn't see the point in buying him loads of 000's when I didn't have to (I'm a tight **** :) ). He was 3980g when he was born and had put on 400g at 3 weeks old. Haven't weighed him since though.
tiffany - ah but see the wind rockets about inside before it comes out as a fart ;) DD is usually only ever grizzly when she's got gas on the bottom end.
lochie&coopersmum
16-04-2009, 10:14
Hey all :)
Dont really have time for personals this morning but will hopefully do some tonight.
Am feeling lots better today as think i may have gotten 7hrs of sleep YAY one feed at 3ish were cooper took both boobs which he usually doesnt do. Stef looked after him from 12 til 3 last night cause the previous night i had only gotten about 4hrs sleep cause coop was so grizzly.
So cooper was all sweet and nice when stef got home at 10pm last night and i was like what are you doing u ratbag because he was a horror for me during the day :(. Couldnt get anything done cause as soon as i put him down when he was asleep he would start cracking it lol.
Well that only lasted until about 1am which by that time i had gone to bed hehehe. I had expressed some milk previoulsy so if stef was ever nice enough lol then he could let me sleep lol. Anyway at 3am i woke up from all the screaming and called out to stef lol he walked in and said 'he is a little **** isnt he' lmao. He promptly handed him over to me and i put him on the boob and he was happy as larry and slept til 8.30 this morning without waking up again YAY.
Im so over lochie at the moment ahhhhhhhh. He is being a right brat. He does everything possible to wake cooper up, but tries to do it very sneakly so i dont see grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I hate telling him off so much because i have shared care of him with his dad and he keeps saying i dont like him which i bull**** i just want him to leave cooper alone.
Ok so rant over lol very sorry bout that :(.
Have a good day all :hugs:
tinytotsmum
16-04-2009, 10:17
just to let everyone know i off to see doc tomorrow as i rang a 24hr med thingy and they said to see doc within 24 hours and that she may be lactose intollerant so will wait to see him tomorrow and will be buying new formula one way or another.
TJ - F has had a rough week not sleeping during the day and I feel like I am losing it. At 7am this morning I was walking the house with him crying (me that is) at the thought of another day of it. And it has only been a week and he sleeps at night so I don't think I would cope at all if things were tougher.
I rang the MCHN line and she started by telling me to manage my expectations and that it is normal and suggested I have PND. I said it may be normal but that doesn't help me and I don't have PND. When I told her in the last week or so he has slept for a maximum of 20 mins in the morning and 30 mins in the afternoon and screams the rest of the time if I am not pacing with him she agreed that didn't sound normal and maybe my tears were a normal reaction to a bad situation. No ****.
Anyway, her diagnosis is that he has basically forgotten how to go to sleep except in arms and whenever I put him down if he manages to stay asleep when he stirs he freaks out because he is not in arms.
She said the evening witching hour there is nothing to do about and you have to just ride it out, but I need to teach him to go to sleep in his cot during the day via patting, shushing etc.
She also said some babes react very badly to chocolate, which I have been eating out of stress when I don;'t normally so that may be a contributing factor.
Well, it took 40 mins but we did it. I have never managed to settle him in cot before - I always pick him up but I am at the end of my tether so I pulled up a chair next to the cot and sat with him patting and shushing until he went to sleep and if he wakes before 12.30 I will be doing it again.
Hope this advice helps some of you ladies with babies refusing to sleep during the day.
Jesus, no cigarettes, no more than one drink and now no chocolate and I thought pregnancy was bad...
Sorry this is all about me.
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 10:41
:hugs: Kar, hope it all goes well for you with the settling. I kept picking DS up as well but have since learnt not to as soon as he stirs. I have found that going "sh, sh, sh" to him over and over helps settle him, I have been doing that since he was born if he started getting worked up and it does help.
Though he is being a Mr cranky pants today and has a cold so not much is helping apart from being cuddled by mum (gives me an excuse to stay warm in bed with him :))
Jesus, no cigarettes, no more than one drink and now no chocolate and I thought pregnancy was bad...
:laughing: I don't want to start smoking again, but man there have been moments when I've really thought about grabbing one of DH's. Good thing I like chips more than chocolate, otherwise I'd be really stuffed as well.
kar - do you swaddle him when you put him in his cot? DD will never ever go to sleep in her cot unless swaddled. And she's slept in her cot successfully since about 3 weeks. I find that running my finger across her forehead, or down her nose will ease her into sleep if she's being difficult too. And I'm not breastfeeding but can't have all those things either and it's killing me :laughing: You poor thing, having your comfort food taken away from you!
l&c'smum - my little one wakes DD up sometimes too, and he's sneaky about it. usually catch him shaking her foot. grar.
misslouie - mine is in 000's. she was in 0000's for about two weeks and could probaby still fit them but i have so many 000's that she's wearing them now. she's seven weeks old ... if you're concerned about your one's growth, just go to your local midwife centre and get a check up! they all grow at different rates though, she's bound to have a growth spurt soon.
Kar:hugs:, thats what i had been going through, i think its been almost a week since i've cried, which i think is just amazing. i was gettin to the point where i too was thinking, how am i going to do another day of this???? I didnt think i had PND either, i was just fnding it really tough to deal with everyday, and a screaming baby. once we had a few things sorted out with J, it made the days a bit easier. have you tried infants freind? i find J enjoys it, and helps him with his wind.
i use the upright carrier during the day, once he is 'sleepy', (eyes closing, getting limp), i put him down, i then pat him, and also 'rub' his head (rub isnt the right word, stroking!) stroke his head, down to between his eyes, there is a point there that stimulates sleep, so i do that for 30 secs or so, then leave for a minute or 2, go back, repeat till you think they are ok. soon enough, you wont have to go in so often (well on some sleeps, other days he is just a right ****!) i also do this if he has only done the 40min sleep, i will lay my hand on his chest, covering his hands so they cant jerk around (cause even when wrapped they jerk), and that has been enough to calm him to sleep again.
these are all things ive discovered in the last few days, F might hate them, but i thought id let you know.
:hugs:
haha, tee just told you the same smooth move as me, :laughing::laughing::laughing:
Haha :D It's such a good trick isn't it?! It worked with DS when he was a bub too.
i should say too, kar, all that being said (re:swaddling/successfully sleeping in cot), 50% of the time i'm in and out of there for up to an hour before she'll fall asleep (and even then i'm guessing it's out of exhaustion). the worst thing is, when DP wraps her and puts her in her cot - straight to sleep. i can't figure out how the hell he does it. AND it's usually every single time. he looked after her while i was in hospital, so he's got everything down pat. i'm still struggling to learn the ropes. feels really odd, being the mother and all.
speaking of which, DD is currently making me jump up and down to go back in and settle her. really, i should be skinny by now, what with the dietary restrictions, the illnesses and the constant running backwards and forth with kids - but i'm just as fat as ever :laughing:
It is! and it almost forces them to close their eyes, which is half the battle;)
i said the same to dh, i should be losing plenty of weight with all of the up and down!
mumma2ajem
16-04-2009, 11:34
tee- have asked the midwives and they said she is doing ok she was a small baby when she was born and lost heaps of weight before putting it on she only weighs 3.5 kg now and she is 6 weeks.. from looking at wat others bubbas weigh my lil princess is so tiny but like u said shell have her growth spurt eventually
and just another general question ( sorry im new to all this baby stuff) to others with small babies what nappies do u use i am using baby love at the moment they are the only ones that dont leak because of bigness but i think they r giving her a rash i have loads of huggies but she literally wees staright out the side of them and poops staright out of them to any other suggestions on small nappies???
thanks girls. holy ****, he is still sleeping. they were right and i was wrong.
my picking up has been a bit of a philosophical point for me - i really don't believe in any form of control crying for a babe this small but i also don't believe in a flipped out hysterical me! nurse did say to me - you are not leaving him to cry, you are comforting him just not picking him up.
will try the nose stroke.
i am eating lunch. i haven't had lunch for a long time.
i do swaddle but F doesn't have a dummy and is at the point now where he wants to suck fists to self soothe nurse suggested we swaddle with his arms bent and tucked in with fists near mouth.
suggested night routine from nurse is feed, bath, massage, bed - and the advice to ride out the witching hour means ride it out with him in cot. this will be a major challenge.
Tee, so good to hear from you!!
kar, J is grumpiest b/w 7-10, generally doesnt sleep, maybe has a nap. so we do a feed around 7, see if we can get him to settle for a while, by 9 he is either awake, or really cracking it. So then its bath time. by the time bath, dry, moisterise, dress him, its almost 10, and he just about ready for another feed, so we work on calming him down, and by 10.30-11, he wants food, so feed, then to bed. cause we have spent that time settling him, he 'usually' goes down abit easier.
also, J likes his arms up, he doesnt like them down.
il pm you the link, as the diagram is on another site, and i dont think i can post it here. it is a swaddling techniqure with arms up, J prefers that one, and if they want to suck, they can suck through the wrap:laughing:
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO i just lost a MASSIVE post with everyone's personals on it :hissy:
basically -
tj - :hugs:hugs and i agree with the girls. It's best to be honest about how you're feeling and if getting some help is going to improve your quality of life, then go for it
tee - great to hearfrom you
misslouie - Cady is in 000 and she's 4 weeks old, but she is growing insanely fast. We get a growth spurt every week not every few weeks like normal. She was 3.86kgs at birth and now she's around 6kgs.
nomadic - I have a half lazy day every day now. My day doesn't start until Cady has her arvo sleep (around 12 or 2 pm depending on the stubborn factor :laughing:)
Also, I thought that it was a bit early for Cady to be talking to herself, which is why I asked, but I guess it can happen. She gets alot of interaction from me coz I try to tire her out coz she's sooooo active. She gets read to every day, and bath time is also song/nursery rhyme time (she has a cd that we play and sing along to) she has music going in her room 24/7 coz i want her to be able to sleep through noise (it really works!!!!) and her dad is always chatting with her, so i suppose it would encourage her to try to talk back.
tommo - glad to hear that things might be starting to settle down for you
sorry if i've missed any out, it took me soooo long to write my first post so i'm rushing to finish this one
Cady did the most MASSIVE snart this morning, was hilarious :laughing:
I finally got my dress sorted out for MIL's wedding this weekend. Still haven't gotten DP's suit sorted...his old one is somewhat...snug. Hopefully he gets back from his job on the goldie that he's doing today in time for late night shopping...i still need his hair cut that he hasn't done since xmas (feral bugger)
I felt bad for being so snarly with him for a few days so I made him his fav carrot cake yesterday. He loved it.
On the weight issue, I still have 10 kgs to go till im at my goal weight. I was really really overweight when I fell preggo (like my fattest EVER in my life). I've lost 15 kgs so far currently in a large 12 or small 14 which has me in the predicament of ... i have no clothes that fit. My pre-preggo clothes are all 16-18 and my preggo clothes are vile and also don't fit. I'm waiting for this k.rudd stimulus cash so i can have some damned clothes...
... i just realised...my daughter is balding...
she was born with a head of thick long hair and now she has a receeding hairline...WTF?
tinytotsmum
16-04-2009, 14:21
karice that happens on all babies it is from there skull getting bigger to go with the brain growing and the skin slides back on the head and therefore makes them bald on top with a nicethick section of hair across the back of the neck.
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 14:23
TJ - how're you going today?
tinytotsmum
16-04-2009, 14:27
yeah a bit better em is the same again but as i wrote earlier i rang a 24hr dr thingy and they said to see a dr in 24 hours but they think she may be lactose intollerant and that is why she seems in pain most the time. but other than that good havent done food shopping or anything so yeah. getting there.
God, I'm setting myself up for disaster - I always let Millie go to sleep in my arms before I put her down in her cot. I'm just waiting for her to now start startling awake when she realises she's not being held - ****. And I've been feeding her to sleep, and I've let her have a dummy and when she feeds at night she feeds herself back to sleep. Talk about sleep associations. It's bloody hard to sit by the cot until she goes to sleep with two little boys to look after. And neither of them has a day sleep anymore. And i've not had more than 4-5 hours sleep (broken sleep at that) for 4 weeks now. I'm so tired. But Millie is getting bigger everyday so I must be doing at least one thing right! She's so long!
I will try some personals at some other point - my eyes are hanging out of my head and I really should roast some pumpkin for a quiche.
Don't stress Jeca - We do all those things too(except the dummy - she literally gagged when I offered her one yesterday - suits me fine - DH was the one who thought she might like it:D).
TJ - Stuff the food shopping, look after yourself first. If you really need things, ask a friend or family member - they won't mind. :fingerscrossed: something comes of Em's doctors appointment so that you have some answers and can work on helping her to feel better which will give you a bit more of a break.
Karice - Yep, Indie is going bald too, DD1 did at the same age too - both have had a lovely bald ring around their head where their heads lay on things iykwim. Nothing a beanie won't cover;)
OMG I can't believe people are already having the time to think about loosing weight. I'm happy just wandering around in my maternity clothes:o. I'll get there sooner or later lol!
Tash and Tee thanks for the tip on the nose stroking, I tried it and it worked really well(but then again I was just settling her from sleeping on me so ask me again when I've tried settling her from awake - dont' think I'll be so chipper!).
Anyway, off to shower, we had to take a walk to the post box about midday and then DD2's been asleep on my chest since so I'm feeling pretty sweaty. Think a shower together would be quite nice about now.
tinytotsmum
16-04-2009, 15:16
mm i might do some food shopping later will have my cuz with me have to take to her to her mans house so she can grab her stuff and leave him or something along those lines and she will be sad so what fixes sadness.....shopping lol.
:crying::crying::crying:
im coming down with a cold...
how am i going to handle looking after josh on 4-5 hours of broken sleep, while sick, amg prob while he is sick....:crying: i dont know what im going to do!
tommo - the first thing you need to do is CHILL. Take it one day at a time, look after yourself (plenty of fluids, vit C, garlic etc) and worry about bub being sick IF he gets sick. Stressing will make you feel worse. Now next time you put him down to sleep, go rest. As often as you can. As for now, make a cup of tea and rellax hon :) It's only temporary.
thanks tales, im freaking out that if i get it so will he, im trying to get him to sleep noe, then il go to bed for a bit. first time ive had a day slepp since we've been home.
now just to get him to sleep:rolleyes:
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 16:06
Tommo, I have lots of day sleeps. I know you're pretty set on J's sleeping pattern but if you're not well and he wont settle, curl up with him on the lounge and hopefully you'll both drift off. That's what I do during the day. Bayley doesn't like sleeping during the day, unless he's on the floor which is odd, but if I wrap him in his blanket, get snuggled on the lounge with him then he'll drift off and we'll both have a great nap. We had one for an hour today in bed :) It's lovely to wake up with the smile right in front of you (though not so lovely to wake up with vomit down your top LOL). Hope you feel better. Get some cold and flu tablets and keep your fluids up.
OK, the success was a one off. No sleep since he got up at 12.45.
I can't just sit there holding/patting him while he screams. How can it be right to leave him in that state? How can he go to sleep when he is hysterical?
It seems a bit much to me to go 'cold turkey' in terms of going from being a bub who is cuddled to sleep to being left in the cot to scream. Am I just making excuses?
Has anyone else done this? Think I would rather just hold him all day. ALthough he screams about that too.
Geez, I am feeling really shattered.
:hugs: kar. I don't know what else to suggest. I guess I'm lucky that Abi mostly grizzles and rarely screams for any length of time unless there is something really wrong. Much different sound when she's in genuine pain. I guess just do whatever works until things improve and don't stress too much about 'routine'.. little comfort I know, but it really is the only way I get any sleep.
tommo - one battle at a time, hon. Worry about sleep patterns and routines when you're feeling well again. Just get as much rest as you can now. IF bub gets sick (and that's not certain), his sleep patterns are probably going to be disturbed anyway. So maybe just make life easier for yourself in the interim and settle him however you can for maximum rest and effectiveness.
As for us - Abi is intermittently sleeping in the cot during the day (her best and deepest sleep seems to be between the hours of 8am and 12pm). Otherwise it's pot luck whether she'll stay asleep in there. So she's still sleeping with me at night (on me, actually), but we get 3-4 hours unbroken each night which is nice. Cept when there's a growth spurt... then it's game on lol.
LivingINhope
16-04-2009, 18:25
OK, the success was a one off. No sleep since he got up at 12.45.
I can't just sit there holding/patting him while he screams. How can it be right to leave him in that state? How can he go to sleep when he is hysterical?
It seems a bit much to me to go 'cold turkey' in terms of going from being a bub who is cuddled to sleep to being left in the cot to scream. Am I just making excuses?
Has anyone else done this? Think I would rather just hold him all day. ALthough he screams about that too.
Geez, I am feeling really shattered.
I know its hard but the truth is if you follow settling methods the best thing for him is to learn to self settle and sleep. By that I mean the method of waiting 3 minutes before going in then pat him/give a dummy whatever you use, then walk out and start again. After a few times you can pick him up and cuddle then put him back down, he will always cry for mum just as you leave and be frazzled but again the cries will start to be grizzles and each time he looses intensity or stops you start the 3 minutes again.
Really this is the best thing you can do for both of you, when babies can't sleep it effects there development, sorry I used to hate hearing this cause my little man was a catnapper. It only took a few days to see major improvements he was a happier baby also and I was a happier mummy.
In saying that he is still young so the best thing you can do is get him to sleep however you can and professionals will tell you that.
I hope your day gets better:hugs:
Aah Tales, I don't even want a bloody routine, just to have a baby who sleeps for more than 20mins a day! i don't care where he sleeps but i would really like to be able to stop walking him around the house all day in my arms without him screaming the house down - did i mention i am not allowed to sit??
You are a strong woman doing sleep on - I am cracking.
F used to have a really good sleep in the morning too, afternoon was our bad time, now witching hour is from when he gets up until about 9pm. I am sure this will pass quickly and is just a phase...
We have now fed, bathed, massaged. all with no drama, in fact he really enjoyed it. suit goes on, in the wrap and the screaming starts. before we even get near his cot. smart boy, he knows what is coming once the wrap is on!
tash, thanks for the swaddle info
Thanks LIH - posted at the same time. That makes much more sense - they told me I had to leave him in the cot no matter what, ie an hour and a half until his next feed is due. Couldn't do it. The in/out pick up once really upset and start again makes much more sense. DH and I started doing that last week but it quickly devolved to cuddle to sleep while walking around in the hall - just not sitting in the lounge.
As I typed that I realised why I now have to walk him and am not allowed to sit - we started pacing with him when we decided it wasn't ok to sit on the couch with him for hours to get him to sleep.
Jeca - You're not alone with the letting bubs fall asleep in your arms or on the boob. I do the same thing, sometimes dh & I are so concerned that S isn't in a deep enough sleep we cuddle her for ages just to make sure. Saying that though I don't think she getting use to it as she doesn't wake up & immediately scream or cry. She will generally lay in her bassinette for a few minutes & sort of wake up properly before she will cry.
misslouie - S is wearing mainly 000s now but still in some 0000s. If we put her in an all in one suit or pants it has to be 000 because she is in 90% for length. If it's just a legless suit then most 0000 are ok but getting tight on her. S was 4.250 kgs a week ago.
Karice – your weight situation is exactly the same as me. I feel as though someone comes & swaps the size of my clothes. When I try a size 14 pant/skirt on in the shops it fits great but then after wearing it for a couple of hours it’s almost falling off. I hate it so much!!!!
Newme – I’m not actively trying to lose weight though it definitely wouldn’t hurt to start some sort of exercise. I’m even slacking off on doing my stomach & pelvic floor exercises these days. Because of the GD I actually lost weight while pregnant. Plus I think because of the breastfeeding it’s keeping me from putting on weight as my diet has been off the rails. Saying that though I am going on a semi low GI diet as of tomorrow.
Well S has been down since around 6ish, which is an hr & a half earlier than normal so I best be getting myself off to bed to catch a few hours sleep before her next feed. Night All!
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 19:22
My boy is weird. He has been grizzly for the last two days, will sleep for a while but unless he's snuggled up with either me or DH then it wont last long. He is going from not finishing a bottle to guzzling it and wanting more and will go either 2 hours or up to 6 hours before wanting more to eat. I've put him on the boob a couple of times just to give him a snack of sorts LOL I'm still expressing milk so there's still a supply there but not enough to feed him all the time (and to be honest I'm happy with him being on formula, it works for us and him). He has also been a once a day pooer since the day he was born. Now he's gone and done a second one for the day and man oh man I have never smelt anything like his poos. Charming little man. Yep, I would rather clean out the cat's litter tray, that's how bad it is. (Aren't you glad we're into this sharing stuff? :)).
Kar - B doesn't like being wrapt. He'll cop it for a nap here and there but otherwise he just snaps. He likes to have access to his hands but he also cracks it if he can't move his feet. We were given a snug a bug wrap which has feet in it but it's too big for him at the moment so not sure if he'll cop that or not. We have bought him some of those sleep suits which go over his regular clothes and this keeps him a lot warmer but lets him move.
Does anyone have pjs for their babies? DH was laughing at me because I wanted to change B the other day before we left the house as he was in his "house clothes". I do have a few suits I use for sleeping (they have sheep on them so I figure that's what they're for LOL) but not actual pjs.
Ok, need to attack this nappy.
Nomadic,:laughing: J's poo's have changed to stinky in the past couple of days, i was doing some housework this morning, and he was in his rocker, i came over and was like, WHOA! i think someone has a stinky nappy!:laughing: we hadn't got to the stage where you could smell when a nappy change was needed, but looks like we're there now!!!!
J has been doing the funny sleeping too, last night he did 11- almost 5 am, but during the day he was lucky to go 2 hours for some feeds! im not complaining, id rather he do the short feeds during the day. but then some nights he changes to 3 hourly feeds, you just never know what your gunna get;)
I dont know what its like to snuggle up with j and have a sleep, thats so sad isnt it, when he goes to sleep, i do things, i know its terrible, and i should rest, im working on doing that from now on...
nae, we do cuddle J to sleep too, and i pop him in the carrier, and i do often go, ahh, not sure if he is asleep enough yet, so keep him there a bit longer,lol. he goes in his cot alright, so im not too concerned about it yet.
Kar, gosh hun, :hugs: i wish i was closer to you to come and help...
during J's 'witching hours' of 6pm till 11pm, im not really aloud to sit down either, just gotta keep moving, its a pain in the butt.
i didnt realise they told you to just leave him in his cot screaming, no , i dont agree with that at all. we dont let J cry, as soon as he does, we go and comfort him, we do pretty much what LIH said, pat and comfort while in the cot, leave, come back, if he gets really distressed, we will get him back up.
Does F do the hand and feet shake? i hold J's hands down to his checst for a few minutes and that calms him quite a bit. he will fight it for a bit, but then he will pretty much calm straight down.
tales, sounds like you have A sorted out, we get a second nice sleep from J in the mornings sometimes, but you never know which morning it will be, LOL!
So here i was thinking id got past the crying, nope, had a good old cry tonight, just a bit overwhelmed, J has been a bit difficult this afternoon, im so tired, and not feeling the best. going to the chiro tomoz for me, hopefully get my back back into shape, its been 'out' for a week now.
so doesnt look like we have to worry about J not putting weight on, after he put 200gm on over 5 days of easter, he put 180gm on in 2 days:eek: porka!!LOL
J went down at 5.30, so i went and layed on the bed and went to sleep till 7, so that was ok, but i think i was more tired getting up, lol.
ok, j wants to go to sleep, but is fighting SO hard not to, so off to give him his bath, then he may be ready for a feed, then bed, ahhh, bed, what id give for 10 hours of uninterupted sleep... glad i enjoyed some sleep ins while preggers, not that they mean much now!:laughing:
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 21:30
Tommo - I have at least one nap a day where I'm snuggling with Bayley.. maybe I'm just lazy LOL Usually we come home from taking the kids to school and if I have nothing on then we'll curl up on the lounge after his feed (I try and get his feeds to he is done before the kids get up and after we get home, makes mornings a lot less hectic) and have a snuggle. At night he'll come into our bed when I go to sleep most nights and DH will move him into his bassinet and then I end up bringing him back at about 5 in the morning for a cuddle before we get up. Like you I don't breast feed so I really enjoy it.
Everything still seems to get done somehow. I've been really slack with cooking dinner of late but no one is starving and we're not having takeaway every night so it's all good. DH is working loads but still putting in a good effort to help out, especially with the older kids.
Here's your challenge for tomorrow: Lie on the lounge and have a snuggle. Try lots of different positions until you find what suits you both. B likes lying on DH's chest but with me he prefers if I'm on my side and he's basically got his head under my chin.
But don't do it because you feel you have to, it's just something I enjoy. I think I'm probably a bit different to everyone else as I have three older kids but never got to do this with them so it's almost like I'm making up for what I missed with them.
I'm rambling again.
Just Add Water
16-04-2009, 23:53
Blah. I am WIDE awake. DH is out. Kids are asleep. Even the dog is curled up on the bed sleeping. I coughed before and he gave me a dirty look for disturbing him. B is laying on my chest and is sound asleep. Poor little man has a cold and has had a tummy ache. The gripe water seems to have fixed the tummy ache but he's very snuffly and has a cough. I'm going to take him to the doctor tomorrow. I don't like it when kids are sick and you can't help them. At least when they're older you can give them something and talk to them. He's just got this little cough and these big sad eyes that break my heart.
Ok, toughen up time. Time to try and get some sleep I guess.
The dog just gave me another dirty look. I must be typing too loud. *sigh* Hope everyone else is sleeping and that the bubbas are giving you all a break.
Lol Nomadic - don't you just want to growl at animals which give you dirty looks for disturbing their beauty sleep? My cats do that. The dog doesn't usually, she's more grateful to not be outside :laughing:
kar - I'm sorry, I misunderstood your posts re settling and sleep routines. I hope F starts settling down to sleep soon for you :( It must be awful.
I expect I'm doing everything wrong if I want my child to sleep through the night in her cot but I just can't bring myself to let her cry for me and feel all abandoned. I don't know any other mammalian species that deliberately leaves a newborn to cry (though I'm no expert), and that of course is just how I feel (not lookihg for a debate with pro-controlled cryers or anything). So we just go with whatever gets her off to sleep (and stays asleep), and at the moment, all three of us ARE getting some sleep, so that's pretty important for familial harmony and general functioning. It's not like she never sleeps in her cot - I just tend to wait until she's happy to stay there of her own accord (and though it's slow going, those times are increasing). That way hopefully the cot will remain a happy place for her, and not the site of all loneliiness. She's self-settled in there once for me, without prompting, and I think that was because I was literally too tired to get out of bed and go to her. It had also been a looong night previously and we were both tired. So I call that a fluke and press on. Finally starting a night bed time routine (the most important factor of which is that I - if possible we - stop all household activity immediately and also go to bed at that time). Since her room is right next to our bed, she can not only hear when we enter the room, she also just 'knows' when I'm there and go to bed and wakes almost immediately if she has been asleep. Cheeky sausage. Hence why I'm always rocking her back to sleep when I go to bed, I think.
Speaking of which, she seems to have nodded off after her night feed so I'm going to quickly sneak off to the bathroom and then head back to bed. :sleeping:
Well the chainsaw is running through my throat:hissy:, and thats after panadol and decongestents...
the little man has a bit of a cough and a wheeze...
Nomadic, can you let me know if they recommend anything for B??? J isnt really sick yet, but it looks like it wont be far away...
Ok this may or may not be a silly question but do you dry your breast pump once you've sterilised it?
I'm going to start expressing for the first time using my Avent pump but not sure if I use it straight out of the Avent steam steriliser or not??? I did give it a quick try out when I was expressing pre-birth & used it while still wet but it wasn't the easiest to use & made terrible sucking sounds due to the condensation.
Also when we give S her first bottle how much should she be having on average?? She is a snack feeder on the boob so I have no idea how much she is getting only that she is putting on the right amount of weight. She is 5 weeks old today!
I'm not even sure she will take a bottle considering she has no idea what to do with a dummy :laughing: Hopefully once she realised there is breast milk in there she will be more inclined to take a bottle.
We have a friend's birthday dinner in a couple of weeks & due to the witching hour between 3 - 7.30 pm I would like to be able to have my mum look after her while we have a few hours with our friends.
tales don't worry - i am sure i didn't make any sense whatsoever, haven't really for the last week.
well, F went down with little protest last night after a bath and massage - WTF? He has historically hated these things. Turned the lights down, pumped the heater, TV off, gentle music. Took about half an hour to get him to settle and he only had 1 hour (that is normally his big sleep) then i fed him again at about 9.15 but he was so relaxed - he has been falling asleep from sheer exhaustion.
When DH left his room after 30 mins of settling to get a drink he was quiet and went to sleep! Needed us to stop fussing at him i think
Fed at 9, went straight down slept until 2!!, went straight down, slept until 6, went down after that sleep for another 2 hours.
WEIRD!!
When DH got home last night I was sitting next to the cot balling, F was screaming and he put a stop to leaving in the cot to cry - think i was so desperate i would do whatever someone with 'authority' told me. I am so anti leaving a distressed bub without cuddles, can't believe i did it to be honest.
As DH said - how could he possibly go to sleep except through exhaustion when he is in such a heightened state? I think because it seemed to work the first time i was seduced.
Refusing his sleep now but I am going to persevere with settling in cot and cuddle when he is actually upset. LIH - employing a version of your advice.
Hmm, 10 mins later, been quiet for a while
I love snuggling, and this method does give less cuddling time, but i definitely don't love walking the house with a screaming babe all day, and neither does he. Once we get the cot back on track - DH did remind me that a week ago he was sleeping in cot no drama, is just a hiccup - we will start some snuggling to sleep again but within bounds this time. My favourite is in bed after DH goes to work.
OK, will try not to be so selfish.
NAE - I don't dry but I leave to air dry on some paper towel.
There is a rough formula for how much they might take, can't remember exactly but I think it is 150mls x the weight of your bub. Then you divide that by the number of feeds each day. HOwever my MCHN did say it is really trial and error - this is a very rough guide.
Tash - poor you, sore throat and cold sounds terrible. FOr all the things I can't have now at least while BF you are meant to have some immune protection. Ia gree with Nomadic, block out some lazy snuggle time each day - it is important for both of you to have that close, quiet time if you can manage it - maybe after the cold
Tales - I am so with you, but being pushed to your absolute limit can make you do crazy things!!
I do want to say that while I don't leave the babe to cry when he is distressed as opposed to grumping, I am certainly not criticising anyone who finds that it helps them and their bub. After the last bloody week I completely understand doing what ever keeps you vaguely sane.
OK, that is all I can remember! I have a bad headache - think it is caffeine withdrawal, had it yesterday too. No wonder he can't sleep. We worry so much about a trace of alcohol in the breastmilk, but I had really pretty much forgotten about caffeine.
Thanks Kar.
Ok so another quick question - those expressing, how much do you get out of each boob during one session?
I just expressed & got 30 mls from one boob. I probably could have gotten more but S started to cry in her swing so I had to finish up.
LivingINhope
17-04-2009, 12:04
TJ - :hugs: I had PND with DS1 a few times when he was quiet in the cot I thought did I do something to him...the good news is with help everything improved and DS1 and I have a great relationship. You need to see and speak to someone before Tuesday if your feelings are getting to that level, when you feel that way just put em in the cot and walk away. Make yourself some tea, go out to the backyard so you can't hear it and call tressllian, a friend or your partner.
I have spent many a day and night on the phone to tressllian the girls talked me through what to do. I ended up having several day stay and eventually 1 week residential stay at tressllian. It was great I had psychologists onsite, the nurse are gorgeous and are really all about getting you better and looking after bubs. All the girls there are there for similar reasons the support is amazing.
Please call tressllian and have a chat, you don't have to feel like that. It does get betetr with guidance and these days you are experiencing now will soon be a distant memory:hugs:feel free to PM me anytime to chat about how your feeling sounds like lots of us have either had PND or do have it and support networks is the key to success.
nae - sorry I have no idea on qty infact no one really does cause BF babies eat as required. SOunds like your ECHN should know give her a call.
Kar - it will only take a few days for him to get back into the habit of sleeping in the cot, its important for both of you that he gets some sleep. I should have mentioned I never ever let Lucius become distressed, protest and grumbles is really what your aiming for with control crying. If Lucius becomes distressed I automatically pick him up for a cuddle he actually has at least 1 sleep a day on his dad or I, but generally sleeps in the bassinett.
I use a radio to block out noise for Lucius especially startle noises, keeps him more relaxed. Another thing I remember is routine is important so use the same process when you put him down I wrap Lucius, cuddle and sing to him and put him down. Now when he gets wrapped he relaxes instantly, I do use a dummy also he gets reflux and has alot of gas and it helps him relax also.
Before you know it after a few days Felix will be into the habit/routine, you'll still ahve bad days but the good days will make up for it and give you the energy to endure it.
LivingINhope
17-04-2009, 12:09
AFM - Lucius was circumcised today and is really out of sorts, I have tried to BF on and off for the past hour he has a bit them screams:( I can;t give him panadol until 2ish and I am a little worried about him. Maybe I should put the baby bjorn on, can't wait til DH gets home and we can bath him or do something like that.
I got a 4 1/2 and 3 1/2 hourly feeds last night, I kept waking up thinking surley he wanst to feed now. What a good little boy, today however is a different story then we have just put him through surgery so I guess its to be expected.
Anyway I am off to do housework seeing as a sleep is out fo the question.
LIH - do you cuddle until he is drowsy or just until he feels relaxed then put him down?
Listening to some definite protest yells at the moment, there is no 'distress' there. What you said is exactly what I am trying to do re the protest/grumping v distress. I think I have been a bit quick to jump to distress assessment in the past! Getting better at hearing the difference.
The MCHN line said to leave him in cot even when screaming, to just continue with patting, shushing etc. I even called back to double check. Maybe they thought I said 7 months not 7 weeks?? In a saner state today it seems very strange advice.
Question, for those of you with bubs who chuck, how much is normal? F has some pretty massive ones where he soaks himself pretty much. Usually has one of these plus a couple of little ones each feed. I need to change him after most feeds except night feeds doesn't seem to happen.
His weight gain is good, and I don't think it seems to really upset him. Although he seems to have a bit of a croaky voice. Could be from all the screaming in the last week I guess.
kar, some babies are happy chuckers they call them, maybe all his distress is due to a little bit of reflux, as he shouldnt be throwing up enough to soak himself. (as my doc said abouot J, a little spit is ok, but big spews are not)
could you talk to a midwife, MCHN or doc?? the spewing might be a big factor in him struggling to settle:hugs:
kar sounds like he might have reflux ... the croaky voice can be a good sign on top of the vomiting. i don't know how much is normal but it does sound like quite a lot. DD is currently spitting up little bits most feeds - and a massive one maybe one in three. Before we changed formula, she was terrible, vomiting constantly in huge amounts. Take this quiz - http://heartburn.about.com/library/quizzes/bl_infantrefluxquiz.htm to see if it sounds like your bub.
LIH, I didn't see your second post, hope Lucius is feeling OK.
Tee, I am wondering again about reflux - seemed we got a few weeks off the reflux symptoms, but seem to be returning. He doesn't seem distressed when on his back though, ie the change table.
The quiz says he has many symptoms.
God, I am feeling like such a failure. This mornings good work is out the window. He is just screaming again after his last feed at 2.15.
Maybe the nurse woman was right and I need to manage my expectation. F has slept/been settled today from 7 - 9.10 - obviously great, for 30mins from 10.50 - 11.20, and 45 mins from 1.30 -2.15. Is this normal? I just don't know.
kar - what's normal, really? i totally feel like i have no idea what i'm doing most of the time, and then sometimes i look back on the day and realise i've pretty much fluked it all. haha ... yesterday i couldn't get Grace to sleep, I was up and down resettling her in her cot, exhausted by the time DP came home. then she fell asleep as i brought her inside in her car seat ....
today, she's pretty much done nothing but sleep and every three or four hours has had about 30ml of formula (supposed to be 150 every 3 or 4 hours). plus she's screaming but i've been through everything and can't figure it out. :confused: and yet there's other days where she plays by my rules - feeds when she's supposed to, naps as she's supposed to and so on.
just do what you can and r e l a x. if things aren't going to 'plan', then just chill and let it happen how it happens. i check everything - make sure she's not hungry, burp her, change nappy, try to get her to sleep and if she's really unsettled, give her some infant's friend. and if all else fails, shrug my shoulders and just bear with it til she does fall asleep, or until things come right again.
she's been quite unsettled again today, and screamed a lot with her night feeds last night. might have to go to doc and get this reflux looked into.
but yeah, you're doing great - if anything, probably too much ;) be easy on yourself, it's the best thing you can do for bub. honestly, it really sounds like you're doing great. if you're a failure, then i am too ;)
Tee I know! I hate the word 'normal' in relation to babies. Might get myself some of this infant's friend stuff, seems everyone gives it a go!
I think part of the problem may be that he really goes to sleep while BFing, keeps sucking but is asleep, he got the knack of this by about 1 week old. Then of course when he finishes his feed he has had a nice nap, enough to take the edge off real tiredness but not enough to stop him being grumpy and over tired. I really cannot keep him awake while he is feeding though most of the time.
Decided to feed him at 4.45, he was sound asleep after 5 mins so put him in his cot and not a peep since. I am sure he will be up soon, but it is 20mins peace I wouldn't have had otherwise!
Right, my plan of attack is to get him assessed for reflux next week, persist with the cot sleeping over the weekend and next week but not absolutely kill myself over it, ie if he is absolutely refusing to settle at all over an extended period well a cuddle and nap on the lounge isn't the worst thing ever. Accept that he wont be scarred for life if he cries for a couple of minutes while I am going to the toilet and CHILL.
I am so used to being in control of my life!!
So J went down without much protest for his 5ish sleep. he has been grizzly while awake today, im not sure if its the start of the flu, or if his reflux is getting worse, il see how we go.
i think dh has pretty much forgotten my bday, he knows its tomorrow(my sis and aunt sent me flowers today), but i dont think he is actually doing anything for it, i know he is working most of the day. i just wish that he would maybe go to a little effort with it, iykwim....:(
sooky sooky.
kar, is there someway you could have him looked at sooner? with J's reflux, i dont think i could have lasted days to have it sorted out, and alot of the medications take days(or a week) to work, i just hope someone has answers for you soon...
i hear you about being in control, im a typical type A personality, and a baby doesnt quite fit that personality well, as your not in control, your not organised, agh, my world is sooo different!
I noticed in one of your posts his sleep times, he is doing that 40 min or so sleep, could you try settling him again? they will become sort of alert at the 40 min mark, and even let out a few grumbles, ect, try doing the comfort thing, maybe it will work to get him back down? sorry, im rambling on, and its all stuff you've already heard, sorry.
LIH, i hope L is back to his normal self soon.
Tee, sounds like that reflux is rearing its ugly head again eh, i hope she doesnt get too bad:hugs:
kar - if he's feeding for 5 mins and then being put down for a nap, it could be why he's so unsettled too? i know it's hard to keep him awake, but it might help if he had a proper full length feed. i mean i'm probably stating the obvious completely, sorry! just trying to nut through it with you. sometimes it can be the smallest thing. the thing is, with dd having reflux, she tends to snack a lot as well - i don't know why they do it, but they do. and when she's having a refluxy day, her feeds and sleeps go all over the place.
i think my point is - if it's reflux, good - once that's sorted, then try and keep him awake for full feeds, and everything *should* improve. and with that, i have a huge chuckle because he'll probably do the opposite. :rolleyes: have you tried all the things to wake them up in order to have a full feed? wet flannel on the face, changing their nappy etc? is he hungry still once you've woken him up completely?
as LIH said too, routine is so important. it'll take a while to figure it all out, what works for him/you - and during that time it will feel like you have no frickin idea what you're doing (like me, lol) BUT if you stick with the routine, they do settle. as LIH also said, when DD gets wrapped and put in her cot, she automatically knows it's sleep time (*cough* when she isn't proving me a liar like today). but stick with what you've decided to do, keep on doing it, grin and bear it and fingers crossed, you'll get there. (and if it isn't working, blame gas, lol, i do).
tash - happy birthday for tomorrow in case i forget, hehe. i'm terrible with things like that. i hope your hubby doesn't forget, and puts in a bit of effort. mine is useless with the effort, they just don't know what to do, do they. omg. it's like, i get the most fanciful ideas to treat him for his birthday/father's day/christmas - and wah, idon't get it in return. ah well. guess i should have been a lesbian if i wanted that kind of thoughtfulness :laughing:
LIH - i hope L is feeling better, poor little tyke.
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dd has been screaming for about four hours, sigh. i've done everything - and have been on rinse repeat doing it all full circle but nothing worked. i'm pretty sure i know her cries, and we were both certain she was hungry - we put the bottle in her mouth then she'd scream after about a minute. could be reflux - but we've just gone and put another hole in the teat until i can buy some faster flow ones tomorrow - we're wondering if it's actually too slow for her and she's really frustrated.
anyway, DP is feeding her at the moment and i haven't heard a peep for about 20 mins. hooray. i got my new glasses today, i am SO happy. they're versace, so i feel a little flash. my eyeballs are thanking me. woo, no more headaches.
oh, i meant to say too kar - i SO get you on the 'control' thing. a lot of my frustration with being a mother stems from the fact that i'm a complete and utter control freak. omg. like you wouldn't believe. it's so funny, when i get stressed out, i start organising things and doing my paperwork, anything to gain control back of some part of my life.
LivingINhope
17-04-2009, 19:43
Kar - definatley sounds like reflux for sure, Sebastian was like that little Lucius however screams the house down when he has gas or chucks and his poops are explosive.:o
I only ever cuddle him until he relaxes and then put him down, he is just about always wide awake when I put him down.
Tommo - hope hubby surprises you for your birthday :D
Tee - Hope she feels better and this is her sleep time, I feel ya today. :laughing: I love my prada glasses its always nice to get a pair of glasses that make you feel great. BY the way I hear you juggeling a 3yo and a newborn is quiet a challenge, our next one is going to be much closer in age to no2.
Thanks everyone for listening to my self indulgent whining this week! And for all of the advice.
Tee, I so hear you on the organising things when life is out of control. When I start rearranging the cupboard full of plastic stuff to height order etc I know I am on the edge! It used to be the glasses, but DH knows by now not to let them get out of order!
Sounds like you have had a tough day yourself, you seem like a wonder mum to me!
Tash - yes, I noticed that his sleeps today have been that critical 40 mins, but they have all been toward the end of his 'cycle' when he is ready for a feed again. The rest of the sleep time has been resettling. I have been setting a time based on his feed prior, eg Feed at 11, keep trying to settle until 1.30 when he is probably ready for a feed again anyway.
Happy birthday for tomorrow! It was our wedding anniversary yesterday and we both forgot.
Just Add Water
17-04-2009, 23:09
Kar - if you're struggling to keep him awake during a feed then tickle his feet or under his chin. B tends to fall asleep while feeding and this is what I do. I also tend to leave his nappy change until half way through as it wakes him up for the rest of it. He is bottle fed though I know when he has been breastfeeding (which we don't do a lot of as I express it for him but he did today for some reason) then I just pull him off if he's sleeping and put him down. He'll either stay asleep or he wont, I've given up trying to work it out.
Curling up in bed with him works for us if he's really restless but I'm pretty relaxed about his sleeping I have to admit.
Tash - how did your cuddles with J go today? Hope you have an awesome day tomorrow (oops, today, just realise the time!).
AFM - I can't believe the holidays are half over already and it's been a relaxed house so far. Amazing!! The kids have been really good and I'm definitely a lot more chilled. They're having a sleepover tonight at a family friends house and to be honest I'm a little nervous hearing how it went... it's the first time they've slept over at someone who isn't family. I sent Miss 5 away with my alarm clock and promised them new pjs if they followed the rules and behaved - bribary sometimes needs to be used :) They were meant to be going to their mother's tomorrow but she apparently too broke to feed them (you'd think us tax payers would be happy to pay her more for sitting on her **** all day and taking drugs wouldn't you?) so it looks like they'll be with me. I might see how brave I'm feeling and venture out with all four of them, haven't done that yet.
I am hoping that they do go and see their Nan for a bit tomorrow though, I really need to not have them here for a few hours so I can do a clean of the house. It doesn't need much but the loungeroom floor has been covered in blocks and toys for the last week so I need to attack it with the vacuum while they're packed away for a short time.
Hmm, thought I had other stuff to say but it's gone. (Thank god everyone says, she's not rambling tonight LOL).
eeyorethedonkey21
18-04-2009, 05:20
happybirthday tash !! :party::smiliedance:
Just Add Water
18-04-2009, 08:00
happybirthday Miss Tash!!! :D
:flowerz:
:goodvibes:
:smiliedance:
:wave:
(Eeyore, I'm stalking you with the birthday wishes it seems, first on facebook now on here LOL)
Happy Birthday Tash!
Not much new from me. DS has a chest infection (although he is not acting sick, just coughing) and I think DD is getting a cold. She seems to be congested when she breathes and has a bit of dried up stuff in her nose. We'll see how the day goes..
Just Add Water
18-04-2009, 08:13
MKS - It sucks when they're sick :(
I went to the chemist last night and got some saline drops for DS.. it's the only thing I can use to try and clear him up. Apparently if you hear them struggling to breath and they appear bluish around their "gills" (the bit between the nose and the top lip) then it is more a breathing thing and may be asthma related. Will see how the saline drops go first :)
The chemist also said that a vapouriser is worth having with small babies (our chemist is great, far from just telling you to buy things he always tells you to do your research, give it a few days and then go back if you want to so he's trustworthy :) ).
happybirthday to you, happybirthday to you, happybirthday dearrrrrrrrrr TTTTTTTTTaaaaaassssssssshhhhhhhh, happybirthday to you! :party:
Happy Birthday Tash! I hope you have an absolutely fantastic day!
hello nae...
Thanks Girls!! Aw, makes me feel so loved:goodvibes:
Nomadic, i got the vaporisor yesterday, as they said it was the only thing that i could really use with a newborn, i had it going in the lounge with us yesterday. seemed to be ok. i also some some infants panadol, just in case he gets a fever because of this oncoming flu.
He is still only coughing and a bit of wheezing, its not full on flu yet.
Seeing as im not breastfeeding, i have been dosing up on cold and flu, i figure at least if i feel a little human, it will help me to look after J if he isnt well. and the drugs are goooddd.:laughing:
i slpet till 10am this morning:o, went to bed at 11.30, got up for a 3 am feed, back to bed at 4.30, and stayed there till 10, it was really really good. (dh did 7.30 am feed)
dh got me some (supermarket:laughing:) flowers last night, as he is working today. i just wish he maybe went to some effort (cause i come up with fantastic things, and make his day special, but my day just comes and goes, oh well) at least he did something eh.
im trying J in his rainforest swing, see is he likes it...
ok, off to have a bit of brekky while J is content in the rocker. be back soon!:D
phew, my browser timed out when i went to post, thought id lost it, but its still here, yay...
Happy Birthday Tash!!!!!
Sahara has the rainforest swing as well!!! She likes it a bit better now that her sight range is getting better. But if the music stops playing then well look out cause then the cry comes :laughing:. Stupid thing should just keep playing until you stop it.
LivingINhope
18-04-2009, 13:47
MKS - It sucks when they're sick :(
I went to the chemist last night and got some saline drops for DS.. it's the only thing I can use to try and clear him up. Apparently if you hear them struggling to breath and they appear bluish around their "gills" (the bit between the nose and the top lip) then it is more a breathing thing and may be asthma related. Will see how the saline drops go first :)
The chemist also said that a vapouriser is worth having with small babies (our chemist is great, far from just telling you to buy things he always tells you to do your research, give it a few days and then go back if you want to so he's trustworthy :) ).
Crap! makes sense I feel like such a bad mum Lucius has been blue around the mouth and snorting heaps...guess i am off to get saline. Mind you his wind is phenominal also so it could be a little of that making him blueish.
Just Add Water
18-04-2009, 14:40
Crap! makes sense I feel like such a bad mum Lucius has been blue around the mouth and snorting heaps...guess i am off to get saline. Mind you his wind is phenominal also so it could be a little of that making him blueish.
Up until last night I had been told it was wind :confused: so now he's getting stuff for both, figure I'll play it safe :yes: (oh, and you're so not a crap mum!!!)
eeyorethedonkey21
18-04-2009, 20:21
Happy Birthday Tash!!!!!
Sahara has the rainforest swing as well!!! She likes it a bit better now that her sight range is getting better. But if the music stops playing then well look out cause then the cry comes :laughing:. Stupid thing should just keep playing until you stop it.
thats why i got the fisher price power plus swing plugs into the power point and there are about 7 different tunes that it continuously repeats until you stop it. :)
tinytotsmum
18-04-2009, 21:34
hi all well the news of the day isssssss.......................................... ................................ my doctor is CRAP i asked him about em and all he said was to put her back onto the formula that makes her that constipated she screams and if it does it again to put her on the lactose intollerant on so got home tried to feed her the one we had been doing the s26 gold and she did the biggest chuck ever i was waiting fer her head to spin around exercist style ( didnt happen) so i went and bought it she is getting better but still wont really sleep during the day and the lactose free one is making her a bit constipated bt she isnt chucking and not doing her normal screaming so when i finish this tin i might go try another brand of the lactose intollerant formula and see about the constipation with that one. as for me with the way emily has been i havent been having much sleep but she has been sleeping when we go out to the shops of if i put her in our ring sling i bought so that has pretty much been my days mind you during the night she really only gets up at 2 in the morning then again at 6-7 so she is pretty good at night maybe she has found her routine up all day and sleep during the night still makes it hard to do things during the day as i think she gets quite tired so wants to be with me or dad constantly she seems to scream when she comes to me though which upsets me often. but what can you do well anyway enough of my ramble.
nomadic i think it was you talking about the blue gills thing i have found normally if em has the blue if you persist long enough she burps or farts and it isnt as bad and as for the sounding like the struggle to breathe i found out it cos they only know how to breathe through there nose and it gets clogged with boogers easily so i am constantly trying to pull them out, you can get a fluid to spray up there to disolve it but not to keen on the idea. anyway so yeah.
well better go do something she has gone to bed finally yay.
trifecta
19-04-2009, 08:45
Hi lovely ladies, I feel like I haven't been on here for ages. Hope everyone is going well, haven't had much chance to catch up on whats happening. How big are our babies getting?! I have to keep stopping and thinking my god J is 5wks old when people ask. They all still think he looks like a newborn, he's still quite tiny but I can see how fat he's getting :) He's still in 0000 though.
So we are chugging along pretty well, he has been sleeping just about all day lately and still goes down well at night. We have had a few episodes of screaming though, which seams to last hours to settle him back down. I'm going to get some gripe water today, I'm pretty sure it's his tummy/wind. Is there anything else you can do to help them? He thrashes about and screws his little face up and screams in pain, I feel so helpless. I haven't been able to pinpoint what it is I've eaten so far either that's upsetting him.
I've started expressing also, just to keep a stock supply in the freezer but it's harder then I thought it would be. Seams to take all day to get 120mls.
Anyway I will read back a few pages to see how you all are...hope everyone had a nice easter.
Oh quick question hope it's not TMI - But is anyone else having any trouble with the old pelvic floor muscle's? I seam to 'leak' a tiny bit of wee every now and then and can't hold on like I used to :confused: I hope it improves??
hubnbump, if your reading back, you'll see 'infants freind' used a bit, it releives wind pain VERY effectively! Its a natural product, so you dont have to worry too much about dosage, cause you cant really muck it up, iykwim. for a 5 week old, you'd be using about a ml. We give it to J at the start of a feed. We find he is just too upset in the belly if he doesnt have it.
Also, you may find with expressing, your let down isnt as good, its just one of those things. you may get a bit more let down if you have a picture of jacob with you. some of the other girls may have a few ideas:)
Sounds like his sleeping is going well!!!
tj, have they ruled out reflux? i know i keep crapping on, but it does sound that way. we're using karicare AR (so its the same formula, just made to thicken in their belly to stop them spewing up), might be worth giving it a try, its been much nicer on J's belly, and he's not constipated anymore. we are still using infants freind, and i think that is helping keep things moving as well. but on the other formula we had to use coloxyl drops AS WELL as infants freind, and he was still straiing (s26 AR).
also the AR formula is harder to pass as its thicker.
eeyore, i wanted one that plugged in! :laughing: but i didnt find any, but looks like i didnt search hard enough!
nae, i only realised yesterday it stops on its own, booo! j is enjoying it more now, (like the last day:laughing:) and we have it turned round the other way, which he likes more.
Me post, sorry!
I've completely build a rod for my own back - day sleeps are getting harder and harder here. I can't get Millie to get to sleep in her cot on her own (well occasionally) and with two other children I don't have time to stay with her, so I pop her in the sling and walk her around then put her in her cot. Now sometimes she stays asleep, but often she is waking about 20 mins later and finding it near impossible to go back to sleep - bugger. It's my own fault. You think I'd have learnt 3rd time around! Right now she's asleep in her bouncer with the calming vibrations on and a dummy in her mouth LOL! At least I'm hands free for a moment!!
Anyway, whinge over - I'll have to fix it at some point. When Missy wakes up I'm going to get myself a Wii Fit - YAY! I hope it helps me to lose some of these baby kgs! I only need to lose 5kg but I am longing to fit into something that isn't my fat pants, or maternity!
Hi Girls
Well it has definately been awhile since I have posted on BubHub. I have been very busy since Riley was born and also unfortunately I got a bit of PND so I havent felt much like socialising. I am slowly getting through it though.
I havent had much time to go back through the posts and see what everybody is doing but from the looks of things you girls are going well with your lil bundles of joy!
My little guy was 6 weeks old yesterday and he is doing well. He is putting on heaps of weight but he has a bit of colic so that has been difficult. We took him to the baby Chiro and he has worked wonders so far so that is good. I am hoping when Riley's colic starts to settle down my PND will go away.
I am breastfeeding as well and Riley wants to be fed every 2 hours during the day! At night I get 3 hours between feeds though and sometimes I get a whole 4 hours!
He is pretty gorgeous, I am going to put some more pics on Facebook soon so for those of you that use facebook you will get to see my cute little fattie!
Anyways I better go get some housework done before he wakes up again.
Chat to you all soon.
Tam
eeyorethedonkey21
19-04-2009, 10:44
hubnbump, if your reading back, you'll see 'infants freind' used a bit, it releives wind pain VERY effectively! Its a natural product, so you dont have to worry too much about dosage, cause you cant really muck it up, iykwim. for a 5 week old, you'd be using about a ml. We give it to J at the start of a feed. We find he is just too upset in the belly if he doesnt have it.
Also, you may find with expressing, your let down isnt as good, its just one of those things. you may get a bit more let down if you have a picture of jacob with you. some of the other girls may have a few ideas:)
Sounds like his sleeping is going well!!!
tj, have they ruled out reflux? i know i keep crapping on, but it does sound that way. we're using karicare AR (so its the same formula, just made to thicken in their belly to stop them spewing up), might be worth giving it a try, its been much nicer on J's belly, and he's not constipated anymore. we are still using infants freind, and i think that is helping keep things moving as well. but on the other formula we had to use coloxyl drops AS WELL as infants freind, and he was still straiing (s26 AR).
also the AR formula is harder to pass as its thicker.
eeyore, i wanted one that plugged in! :laughing: but i didnt find any, but looks like i didnt search hard enough!
nae, i only realised yesterday it stops on its own, booo! j is enjoying it more now, (like the last day:laughing:) and we have it turned round the other way, which he likes more.
they sell it at target. i think u can also get a blue one now.
Wii Fits were sold out, bugger, will have to wait until they come on special again unless I can convince DH to get me a gym membership instead - at least the gym would get me out of the house for a little while LOL!!!
Pebbles, it's great to see you around again. I'm sorry you've been suffering with PND, I really hope that you start to feel better soon. Would love to see some pics of your wee man!
Jeca - where are the wii fits on special? and for how much? i can have a look around my area for you too. wouldn't mind one myself actually. i hear what you're saying re: settling though. i did that with DS and swore i wouldn't do it with this one (rocking to sleep and so on). really, it's worth persisting and getting her to self settle. DD does (uhm .. mostly, haha), and it's so much better. easier said than done though huh. all day yesterday i just walked around with her in her sling because it was an impossible day for getting her to sleep in her cot. little tinker.
pebbles - good to hear from you. big hugs. wondering if i should try chirop with my bub, it seems to help so many.
hubnbump - with mine for wind pain, i use infacol for stomach wind and infant's friend for bowel wind. both seem to help. i also lay her on her back and push her legs towards her tummy for lower wind pain. and we give her a bath to settle her when we can't get anything else to work. boiled water can sometimes settle their tummies too.
tinytotsmum
19-04-2009, 16:27
hey all i just have a quick question with our little girl sleeping we have worked out she doesnt seem to like her bassinet as soon as we put her in it she wakes up but i put her on our bed or in her pram and she sleeps like well a baby the only time she sleeps in her bassinet is at night and its fine but she wont sleep there during the day. has anyone else found this problem or is it just our little girl.
Tee - they are on special at Big W for $448 at the moment, but I think most places have sold out. If you find out available can you let me know because I'll definitely get it! They've none at Chermside or Taigum.
Just Add Water
19-04-2009, 22:02
Eeyore - maybe we are connected in some way? Due the same day, both have the same bath and now it turns out we have the same swing. And yes, it does come in blue as that's what mine is :) Starting to freak me out a little (Oh and we'd both jump at the chance to put our kids on a plane and ship them across country just for a break LOL)
Nae - I have a plastic tub that I store my steralised stuff in. Once it's steralised then it goes in the tub and the lid goes on. I have paper towel in the bottom of it to ensure that any drips are caught and not left to go slimy on the plastic and this is changed all the time. I have a separate container for the teats and dummies and this container itself gets steralised every few days. I have a microwave steraliser and it's so easy and quick to use.
TJ - DS is not a fan of his bassinett. He will sleep in his swing, curled up with us or on a mat on the floor. He does sleep in his pram, his carseat and the bjorn carrier as well. Put him down in the bassinet and he will be awake in about half an hour. I personally think it's only an issue if you make it one :)
Hubnbump - glad to hear that things are going well for you. Re the pelvic floor muscles... I could well pay for this later in life but I never actually paid any attention to any of that when I was pregnant. I did refuse to run to the toilet every time my body tried to make me though and just went as I normally would. Even if I woke during the night I would lay there and try and go back to sleep rather than get up - it was really ****ting me. Not sure if it's a result of that or not but I haven't had any problems (and still go when I want, not the second my bladder wants LOL).
Jeca - ooh, I hope you get a Wii Fit - I love ours. I stopped using it when I was a few months pregnant as I kept getting told I was putting on too much weight LOL. We have heaps of fun with ours, the sports games are great for the kids as well.
Tee & Jeca - if you can't get one at BigW then try Kmart & Target - there was a girl at Kmart yesterday who put one on layby and she said it was the same price as BigW. Not sure if it really was or if they price matched but def worth finding out.
Tommo - it's funny that you love telling people about infant's friend, my friends used to laugh because I would rave on about the sard wondersticks for the laundry. When I moved to a spray dirt remover they knew it must be something special to make me give up my "stick". LOL Besides, you're right - it does the trick. We use that and gripe water, depending on how bad it is.
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Righto then. As far as well go well it's been a busy 24 hours.. as I'd said previously DS had a cold. I took him to the chemist on Friday night and they gave us some saline drops and told us to look out for any wheezing and blueness. I watched him all day yesterday and while we were out I had in him the carrier and could hear his breathing. By last night I decided to get him checked out. So I took him to the ED of the hospital where he was born, they checked him out and admitted him straight away because of his age. They did a chest xray and that came back clear (just have to add that he was a total superstar at staying still during the xray, even with me trying not to **** myself laughing from them asking me if I was pregnant - um, no (a) Look in my arms - this is what happened last time! & (b) I think I need to like my husband for that to happen).
So that was clear and his oxygen stats were really good but he was a bit rattly and wheezy. They said that he had bronchialitis (a virus), which is not that uncommon in babies who have older siblings who bring home colds. The other hospital in Canberra has a kids ward whereas this one has the special care nursery, so they said that they wanted him taken over there. I asked who I would have to see and was then informed that no, we would be taken in an ambulance (at which point I totall **** myself to be honest - WHY??? What's wrong with my baby that you're not telling me??). Turns out that it's more a continuity of care thing and they just wanted to make sure he got there and was looked after on the way.
We ended up on the ward for the night (had a room to ourselves and they'd already made me up a bed which I thought was really lovely). He was really grizzly all night as i couldn't put him in bed with me. He was stable over night and feeding well so they said we could come home this morning after the Pead Dr saw him. Turned out it was the same Dr that delivered him at the other hospital and looked after him in the nursery - he rotates between the two. So it was really reassuring as I found him so thorough. He did a full check up and said that as far as the bronchialitis was concerned then he felt he had hit the worst of it and should get better. So that is good. He's back on 2-3 hourly feeds and smaller amounts as he's been vomiting due to being congested so the smaller feeds will help that as well.
The other news is that when the Dr was doing his checks he discovered that DS has a heart murmur. He said that since he hadn't picked it up at birth then it was likely to have come about because of the cold and that it will likely go when the cold does. We have to go to our gp in 6 weeks and if it's still there then we have to have an ultrasound and see a specialist. Apparently a lot of babies have them and they generally correct themselves - I hope so!! Poor little man. I hate hearing him scream when there is absolutely nothing I can do about it. Because he's getting smaller feeds he's waking up absolutely starving and just screams with hunger. I've got the bottles ready to go, just need to heat them and add the formula to try and make it a bit quicker for him.
So that was our weekend :rolleyes: The kids are all under strict instructions to only blow kisses to DS and that if they want to give him a cuddle then they need to ensure their hands are clean first. They all went to the doctors today with DH and are on antibiotics too so hopefully we'll have a healthy household again soon :)
DS is curled up with DH on the lounge at the moment and they're both snoring. It's quite cute really.
As for me, well, I'm wide awake and probably wont sleep much so I'm off to eat some chocolate.
agh josh will you just go to bloody sleep!!!:hair::crying::hissy:
Good tip Nomadic - if I can face bundling 3 kids into the car today I might try out K-Mart!
What a nightmare it sounds like you went through with your little man. It's scary enough when they're sick without having to have chest x-rays and overnight hospital stays when they're so little. DS2 had bronchiolitis when he was about 6 months and we also ended up in hospital, but he was that much older - still horrible though. I hope he's on the mend and that the heart murmur goes.
Tommo - I hope Josh went to sleep eventually.
Must dash!
GirlsOnly
20-04-2009, 07:38
Hi ladies
It has been so long since I have been in here it took me a while to find you!
Well I have been very busy as I know you all have looking after your beautiful bundles...time has just flown by. Mikaylah is doing well after a rocky start in the NICU and is now 19 weeks old and 8 pound 3 ounces. She is still tiny but to me she has grown so much...
She is doing great breastfeeding and is quite the little piggy! She has just started to sleep most of the night, from about 8pm to 3.30am which is fine with me! I am finally starting to feel somewhat normal again.
She is soo strong too. She can roll over and if I out her on her belly she shuffles across the floor, almost crawling. She is amazing. She also lifts her head up and has a nosey around...I am very impressed. She loves her baths and hates getting dressed, just like her mummy!! LOL
It doesnt look like there are going to be any issues from her being prem, infact the midwives say she is well advanced considering her adjusted age is only 5 weeks..she was rolling over when she was 4 weeks old and not even at her due date!!! Can you tell I am proud of my princess!!
Well I have 2 months of reading to catch up on so I best get on to that! Next week when school goes back I will hopefully have more time to pop in more. Steph, my now second youngest, starts school then so she is excited and I am happy to have 6 hours a day of relative quiet and where my house can actually stay clean!!!
Hope everyone is enjoying motherhood and your babies are thriving. I hope to find some pictures while I am reading!
Catch up soon
xxxxx
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LivingINhope
20-04-2009, 07:41
Eeyore - maybe we are connected in some way? Due the same day, both have the same bath and now it turns out we have the same swing. And yes, it does come in blue as that's what mine is :) Starting to freak me out a little (Oh and we'd both jump at the chance to put our kids on a plane and ship them across country just for a break LOL)
Nae - I have a plastic tub that I store my steralised stuff in. Once it's steralised then it goes in the tub and the lid goes on. I have paper towel in the bottom of it to ensure that any drips are caught and not left to go slimy on the plastic and this is changed all the time. I have a separate container for the teats and dummies and this container itself gets steralised every few days. I have a microwave steraliser and it's so easy and quick to use.
TJ - DS is not a fan of his bassinett. He will sleep in his swing, curled up with us or on a mat on the floor. He does sleep in his pram, his carseat and the bjorn carrier as well. Put him down in the bassinet and he will be awake in about half an hour. I personally think it's only an issue if you make it one :)
Hubnbump - glad to hear that things are going well for you. Re the pelvic floor muscles... I could well pay for this later in life but I never actually paid any attention to any of that when I was pregnant. I did refuse to run to the toilet every time my body tried to make me though and just went as I normally would. Even if I woke during the night I would lay there and try and go back to sleep rather than get up - it was really ****ting me. Not sure if it's a result of that or not but I haven't had any problems (and still go when I want, not the second my bladder wants LOL).
Jeca - ooh, I hope you get a Wii Fit - I love ours. I stopped using it when I was a few months pregnant as I kept getting told I was putting on too much weight LOL. We have heaps of fun with ours, the sports games are great for the kids as well.
Tee & Jeca - if you can't get one at BigW then try Kmart & Target - there was a girl at Kmart yesterday who put one on layby and she said it was the same price as BigW. Not sure if it really was or if they price matched but def worth finding out.
Tommo - it's funny that you love telling people about infant's friend, my friends used to laugh because I would rave on about the sard wondersticks for the laundry. When I moved to a spray dirt remover they knew it must be something special to make me give up my "stick". LOL Besides, you're right - it does the trick. We use that and gripe water, depending on how bad it is.
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Righto then. As far as well go well it's been a busy 24 hours.. as I'd said previously DS had a cold. I took him to the chemist on Friday night and they gave us some saline drops and told us to look out for any wheezing and blueness. I watched him all day yesterday and while we were out I had in him the carrier and could hear his breathing. By last night I decided to get him checked out. So I took him to the ED of the hospital where he was born, they checked him out and admitted him straight away because of his age. They did a chest xray and that came back clear (just have to add that he was a total superstar at staying still during the xray, even with me trying not to **** myself laughing from them asking me if I was pregnant - um, no (a) Look in my arms - this is what happened last time! & (b) I think I need to like my husband for that to happen).
So that was clear and his oxygen stats were really good but he was a bit rattly and wheezy. They said that he had bronchialitis (a virus), which is not that uncommon in babies who have older siblings who bring home colds. The other hospital in Canberra has a kids ward whereas this one has the special care nursery, so they said that they wanted him taken over there. I asked who I would have to see and was then informed that no, we would be taken in an ambulance (at which point I totall **** myself to be honest - WHY??? What's wrong with my baby that you're not telling me??). Turns out that it's more a continuity of care thing and they just wanted to make sure he got there and was looked after on the way.
We ended up on the ward for the night (had a room to ourselves and they'd already made me up a bed which I thought was really lovely). He was really grizzly all night as i couldn't put him in bed with me. He was stable over night and feeding well so they said we could come home this morning after the Pead Dr saw him. Turned out it was the same Dr that delivered him at the other hospital and looked after him in the nursery - he rotates between the two. So it was really reassuring as I found him so thorough. He did a full check up and said that as far as the bronchialitis was concerned then he felt he had hit the worst of it and should get better. So that is good. He's back on 2-3 hourly feeds and smaller amounts as he's been vomiting due to being congested so the smaller feeds will help that as well.
The other news is that when the Dr was doing his checks he discovered that DS has a heart murmur. He said that since he hadn't picked it up at birth then it was likely to have come about because of the cold and that it will likely go when the cold does. We have to go to our gp in 6 weeks and if it's still there then we have to have an ultrasound and see a specialist. Apparently a lot of babies have them and they generally correct themselves - I hope so!! Poor little man. I hate hearing him scream when there is absolutely nothing I can do about it. Because he's getting smaller feeds he's waking up absolutely starving and just screams with hunger. I've got the bottles ready to go, just need to heat them and add the formula to try and make it a bit quicker for him.
So that was our weekend :rolleyes: The kids are all under strict instructions to only blow kisses to DS and that if they want to give him a cuddle then they need to ensure their hands are clean first. They all went to the doctors today with DH and are on antibiotics too so hopefully we'll have a healthy household again soon :)
DS is curled up with DH on the lounge at the moment and they're both snoring. It's quite cute really.
As for me, well, I'm wide awake and probably wont sleep much so I'm off to eat some chocolate.
:hugs:sounds scarey but I am so glad he is all ok. DS1 had a little murmer funnily they thought he must have had a cold or something (no signs) because 2 weeks later it was gone. He does get asthma though when he gets a cold but apart from that he is all good. I am sure He'll be fine:D
LivingINhope
20-04-2009, 07:48
GO - How fantastic to hear Mikayla is doing so well, after a rocky start how amazing that she is developing so quickly:yelclap: probably a great thing she is a piggy at the breast helping he put on weight and grow big.
Tommo - Put Josh down in his cot walk out into the backyard for 3 minutes and try to calm yourself down. The more stressed you get the worse he will get, trust me I have to make myself do it all the time. Give yourself a breather to re-coup and go back in and try all the setteling techniques that normally work....is it reflux related?
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Bless Lucius must know I am on the computer he is awake!! better fly
Morning girls, GO, so good to hear from you and how wonderfully M is going!
Karice, I was lying in bed thinking about you last night - where are you,or have I just missed something?
TS - hope the move has gone well.
Nomadic - how stressful for you, it sounds like you are coping really well like you do all the time!
Tash, it is terrible isn't it, and I know for me the more the stress builds up in me the less likely it is the F will be able to sleep. That is why the days we are both home are almost always much better re sleep - With two pairs of hands and someone to talk to nothing is so bad.
OK, that is about all I can remember!!
AFU - we had a better w.end. Saturday F was beyond a model baby - feed, play sleep all day with no drama, no vomitting and no screaming. Yesterday was a middle ground b/w last week and Sat so things improved over the w.end. We went to the doc on Sat and she agreed with our reflux diagnosis. SHe didn't really recommend medication at this point but said we could try something (she used the medical name, but I think it is Losec) that is not xantac or mylanta and you can only get from children's hospital. Basically if it works we are dealing with reflux, otherwise we are not. Not really sure what to do.
Trying to convice F that a morning sleep is a good idea. He is protesting, but not screaming and only two small normal baby voms after his feed.
Happy birthday to me, DH forgot this morning. Boo hoo.
Hi Ladies! I didn't ever get around to posting much when I was expecting, but now here I am with a little one, home alone as H has gone back to work today. I think I'll be on here more than ever looking for advice! :)
:wave: Hi Girls, I'm still here, we had suuuch a busy weekend doing the mission down to Grafton NSW, I was buggered, it was slightly stressful coz I didn't know how Cady was going to cope on such a long trip was she was a darling, I'm really impressed.
We left Friday night, coz I thought that it might be easier to travel while she's tired and wants to sleep. The only thing is that she woke up a few times and was a little bit scared coz she didn't know where she was or what was going on, especially when we were passing things like roadworks and there were all these big scarey lights flashing in her face, poor bugger. we got down to Grafton at 1:30am and then it was a busy day getting ready for MIL's wedding. Was a lovely wedding, very simple garden wedding, gorgeous weather, although a bit chilly. Cady slept through the whole thing in the pram so yay.
The only thing that really got my back up was that there was heaps of family that hadn't met Cady yet, and I can understand the excitement of meeting her blah blah blah, but when they've been drinking free booze all day and night I do not want them handling my daughter, especially when they can barely stand themselves. So I got a little bit firm with a few people, saying you can have a cuddle tomorrow, but for now bugger off.
the wedding was at a holiday village where heaps of us were staying coz so many of us travelled and the reception was at a really nice local pub. I had just spent half an hour feeding and settling Cady back into her capsule, went to the toilet and then I heard her SCREEEEEAMING. so not like her, i knew her dad was with her but still i was frantic. I went back outside only to find someone had picked her up out of the capsule, woken her up, breathing beer breath in her face, un wrapped her so she was cold...no wonder she was screaming. I was furious. Then we were late to the reception coz Lee's stepbro had stuffed up cady and then I had to calm her down and settle her all over again and get her back to sleep.
I'd say the only bad thing about the whole weekend was that Lee's stepbro was coming onto me, which was so uncomfortable, embarrassing and humiliating. Stupid sleazy comments like "lets go around the corner, bugger our partners" a$$hole... I told DP what was happening, and he very tactfully pulled him aside and gave him a serve. But it was horrible, coz I had the pram in a corner out the way so Cady could sleep undisturbed, and I was pinned with my back against the varandah rail and he kept coming up and grabbing my weist and stuff and he wouldn't listen when I told him to keep his distance. DP sorted it out though, my hero :kiss: God it was embarrassing coz a few people were throwing questioning looks our way, but I'm sure everyone would have seen the look of panic on my face and not assumed that there was something going on. Plus, he was beyond drunk...did the most terrible "speech" about how his ex wife screwed some guy for kitchen applicances...nice... MIL and stepFIL were furious, but they don't know about the sleaze factor yet.
so sorry girls, i know this is a terribly selfish post today, I'm feeling a little bit down and out today. Its so weird, we hated our home town when we lived there and thought moving to the city would be great, but to be honest, we both really really miss our old town. I miss my friends and family, and I'm so lonely up here. Now we can't afford to move home, and even if we could, I doubt Lee would find a job good enough to support us. Work is pretty hard to come by in that town.
Anyway, here's a cot sleeping tip that I have discovered this weekend. Cady was sleeping in different cots and places than she is used to so I was finding it hard to settle her at first, but then I discovered a magic trick. I put the shirt that I was wearing that day in the cot with her, (up above her head out of the way so she couldn't grab it) and I swear the smell of me in the cot worked a charm. She went straight off to sleep, no grizzling or grunting or whinging. It might work for some of you who are havinga trying time getting bubs to sleep in cots and not in your arms.
ok - now to read all the posts and catch up on the gossip
happybirthday Kristen!!!happybirthday
Hopefully dh remembers by the end of the day and brings you spmething tonight!
(i feel you pain,lol)
trifecta
20-04-2009, 10:58
Happy Birthday Kar! I hope DH surprises you with something wonderful :) I always have hopes of the same anyway...
Nomadic - Hope your little man is getting better, I couldn't think of anything more scary then a trip to hospital.
Karice - What a busy weekend and what a loser Lee's stepbrother is, that is SO out of line. Hang in there hun, I know how isolating it is to live away from all your friends and family. It will get easier.
I ended up getting some infacol yesterday, seams to have settled J down so far although he's having a snack feeding and no sleep day today -so tiring. I haven't eaten anything yet today or had a shower or done any washing.... blah.
How do you tell if it's tummy pain or bowl pain? When he has one of his screaming episodes, he grunts alot and pushes out a few farts, but he's never had trouble pooing or farting really, but hardly ever does a big burp.
K gotta eat something.
Hope everyone is having a good day so far.. will hopefully pop back later if little mister decides to have a sleep longer then 5mins...
LivingINhope
20-04-2009, 11:08
happybirthday KAR!!!
HNB - I have started Lucius on infacol also he has actually managed a few big burps he never has trouble burping from his bottom though:o actually its so bad when we are out I am sure people think something that loud just does not come from a baby:laughing: He is till doing explosive poops though but I have bene told that might be because I have a fast let down...not sure.
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AFM - feel like a zombie Lucius has been very unsettled since friday his gas is out of this world. He tries to snack feed but it gets worse so I have had to start forcing him to hold out by using a dummy. Our feeds are now 2-2 1/2 hours apart and his wind is getting a little better...he is also having longer feeds so all in all progress.
Have been talking to my long lost cousin everyday and am going to meet her very soon...very exciting! lots happening with MIL also it always happens at once with us, I am a bit emotional right now with all thats going on...but am keeping in check. SOmetimes I worry Lucius does not get enough of me cause i am juggeling Sebastian, MIL and family issues but we do cuddle and talk and sing lots so I am sure its just the parent guilt kicking in:yes:
Nomadic, wow, an eventful weekend! I hope the murmer is related to the virus, how stressful!! sounds like you had some great treatment by the hospital though, thats fantastic!
tee, im the same as hubnbump, how do you tell is what sort of wind it is?? i thought it was all the same:o
hubnbump, i hear you on the not sleeping, J was up at 10am yesterday, i think he managed 2 cat naps of around 20 minutes (while in the pram and being held!) then finally went down at 8pm for 2 hours, then up at 10pm, then cracked it big time till midnight, gave him ANOTHER feed, he finally went to sleep about 12.30. its so tiring isnt it? i didnt realise how tiring it would be.
LIH, see above post, and, yeah, reflux, he seems more uncomfortable, but i dont know if its to do with his growth spurt as he's 3 and a half weeks now, so smack bang in the middle.
karice, yes, im crazy about who picks up J now. we had shauns relo's round yesterday, he was due for a feed, and one of thems holds her hand out for the bottle, WTF? who are you that you think you can feed my 3 and a half week old baby? (this is someone i have only met twice!) agh. booo to the step brother, what a creep, i hope you dont have to see him again soon, you dont have to put up with tha crap.
hi pippa! yes, these girls are a wealth of knowledge!!
kar, yes, it is easier with the 2 of us home, you can share that workload. pity it doesnt happen very often eh. im glad you got to the doc sooner, so are you trying the losec? or just seeing how he is going. i saw on that link in your other post that reflux is more easily managed in breast fed bubs cause it digests quicker and easier.
GO, thats great that M's growing in leaps and bounds, hehe, J was 8lb1oz when he was born, M must have been soooo teeny:)
Tam, i was a bit worried about you, i hope things are improving hun:hugs:
So see hubnbumps post for a summary of the day, so he went down at 12.30am, then he didnt stir till 6.30am!!!:eek: i heard a bit of a grizzle, woke up , and was like, holy crap, its sorta light outside, what time is it! when i went to him, he was still sleeping, so wasnt crying out or anything. so popped him up for a feed, then he went back down from 7am till 9.30, so im feeling pretty human today. till 10pm tonight :cool:
I got flowers from my sis and aunt on fri, and a HUGE box came to the door this morning, it was one of the chocolate 'bunches', massive, lots and lots and lots of chocolate. its a bit of a running joke, as ive sent them to them for their birthday this year too, hehe.
So flu is still here, im coughing and spluttering, but J doesnt 'seem' to have it, he has a bit of a cough every now and again, and a few sniffles, but nothing major, maybe he got his fathers immune system!
Ok, i hope that was everyone, be back later:wave:
LIH, J farts like a trooper!:laughing: my gosh it is shocking! my nephew wont hold him cause he scared he will fart on him!!!:laughing::laughing::laughing: I think that wind and gas are alot of J's problem, my mum just sits there, 'oh, still got more gas!', i reply, yup, he ALWAYS has it it seems!
maybe il try some infacol to try and get a few more burps up, i thought it was the same sorta stuff as infants freind.:o
Tash - I don't know, he is having a better day again today so maybe I will just stick with the extremely restrictive diet (me not him!) and natural management measures and see how we go.
I feel guilty to put him on medication.
Will see how his weight is at MCHN tomorrow as well. I can see he has grown a lot in length but not so sure about weight. Only small baby type vomitting today so far. He has struggled to settle for sleep but got 50 mins this morning and is down now (well for the last 10 mins!) hmm, no he is not. just heard coughing.
Karice - what a creep. I don't like people who have been drinking (well, you know what I mean, not a glass of wine or a couple of beers) or smoking holding F, which is quite funny given pre pregnancy I was a card carrying smoker and drinker! I also am not keen to hand him over when he is upset. Could just about see my mum bursting last night when she dropped in but he was unsettled, we were trying to feed and it was time for his wind down for bed.
OK, better go - not asleep at all, just tricking me!
Well, I don't know medically if there's a proper way of telling what gas it is! BUT, with Grace, I find that she draws her knees up with lower gas pain and she gets REALLY upset. if it's been several hours after her feed, it's usually lower gas - i figure, burps that haven't come up have travelled through her intestines and causes her pain until they come out. i know that when *i* get trapped gas, it hurts :o
with tummy wind, she arches her back and most of the time her tummy is actually tight - i've felt the burp release under my hand before when she's burped. plus instead of the knees being drawn up, she's all fists - she bunches them up and waves her arms around.
with tummy wind pain, other than infacol - i do a cycle of throwing her over my shoulder and burping, then sitting on my knee and burping, then on her tummy over my knee. i keep doing that and usually it comes up. with lower pain, pushing the knees in towards her tummy (basically like you're helping squeeze the gas out), massaging her tummy gently in a clockwise direction (usually she hates this if there is gas because it's tender, so that's another way of telling), and/or a warm bath.
just watch the legs. if they draw up i can guarantee there's a fart working it's way out :D
NibbleCurlynBub
20-04-2009, 15:20
:) Hello ladies!
Riley is 4 weeks old now, 5 weeks on Thursday.
Phew time has flown. He still for the most part acts like a newborn. :p
He is doing well. :yes: We've had some issues with reflux and even an occasional projective vomit but since starting the thumb rub thing its gotten a lot better. No more projectiles at least. :)
I can't believe how easy he is, honestly. He is predictable and easy.. He is my third so maybe that is to be expected.
But what is with strangers asking if he is a 'good baby'?
No.
He is a bad, baaaaaaaaad baby. :shame:
:laughing:ncb,
whats the thumb rub?
NCB - I hate that!! A baby can't be good or bad, they just are!!
I want to know about the thumb rub too.
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