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I used to know this girl back in my naughty teenage days, I grew up and out of the seen but she is still involved, she had a few kids who got taken from her cause she is a drug addict and her kids where VERY abused and neglected.
So i was speaking to a close friend tonight thats brother is still in contact with this girl and my friend told me this girl works in childcare.
She told me where she is working and that she is defenatly still on drugs cause her brother knows the dealer she gets it off.
Anyway i dont want to get involved with that stuff but am worried as this woman works with children.
So my question is if anyone would know.
Would she be able to get a blue card with with her history?
Also should i be calling the centre and finding out if they know and giving them the info i know?
I dont want to be a nark but am really worried about the kids she is looking after, she is a very nasty cruel person.
I would be doing i anon.
Or should i just but my nose out?
What would you do?
pookiesossige
17-03-2009, 20:30
Has she ever had any sort of criminal conviction?
That's the sort of thing a standard Police Check brings up.
It's a hard one. You can call the child care center and tell them, but so could anyone with a grudge. I'm not convinced it would be taken seriously because it wouldn't be reported seriously.
I think that if you want to get this off your chest and alert the child care center, then you need to do it in writing- even if you stay anon, at least it is on paper. I would never do it via phone.
Sorry I can't offer more advice :)
pookiesossige
17-03-2009, 20:36
Also should i be calling the centre and finding out if they know and giving them the info i know?
You wouldn't be able to find out if they know- they are legally mandated to keep employee information private, especially over the phone to a stranger. A think that all you can do (and what I would do) is write a letter. It has to be as specific as possible. For example, instead of saying "she is a very nasty and cruel person", you need to be specific and state what parts of her behaviour make her cruel, and what she does that is nasty. Not in the past, but now, or it will just be disregarded (who wants someone telling our bosses about our past... not me!! LOL). It has to be relevant to what she does NOW.
I don't blame you for being concerned. Good luck and feel free to run a letter by me or in the thread for a quick proof-read if you want opinions or help with what to say :yes:
JabberJaw
17-03-2009, 20:51
Geez i dunno if i could keep my big mouth shut! But i agree the letter is a good idea.
Blue cards are unbelievably easy to obtain would you believe. I know someone who had been convicted of a drug charge and was still able to get one. I dont trust blue cards at all. (unless things have changed but hey we are talking about Queensland, so i highly doubt it :rolleyes:)
But i would not withhold information if i knew for sure, i reckon go ahead, write a letter. ( i know people can change, but i certainly wouldn't want someone like you have mentioned and still on drugs, looking after my kidlets )
You know what.. I wouldn't.
I would leave it up to her to stuff up herself.
If she's working in childcare, she would have had to have done some sort of course, and prac, and secured a job.... If her drug taking was that bad, I doubt she could have been able to do all that.
Not only that, but very very rarely are people in centres ever alone with kids... she will always have other people around to be accountable to.
Maybe she has changed, and who knows if she is a heavy drug user, or only uses recreationally on ther weekends (not that it's much difference, but at least on weekends it wouldn't effect her professional ability)
If she's as awful as you say she is, she's going to drop the appearance sooner or later, and lose her job anyway.. without the letter. Or just realise it's not the job for her, and quit.
What if she HAS changed, and is trying to quit the drugs, get it together, all that.... and then you send the letter and she loses her job because of it... even though she's not like that anymore.
I'd just keep out of it.
SorenLorensen
17-03-2009, 21:37
thats hard.
part of me says stay out of it but part of me thinks what if she were working with my kids...
:hugs: hope you work it out and do what you feel is best.
thats hard.
part of me says stay out of it but part of me thinks what if she were working with my kids...
:hugs: hope you work it out and do what you feel is best.
These are my thoughts.
I want to stay out of it but if my kids where in daycare and there was a woman like this working there iand someone new what she was like then i would expect that person to tell the director.
But at the same time i dont want to get involved.
She hasnt and isnt changing, one of her kids are still in care just cause she doesnt want him:(
I just dont understand how she was given a blue card with no even being trusted with her own children:confused:
As far as i am aware she has only started there abour 5 weeks ago and is put on as a trainee, that means it could take up to 3 months before the childcare even signs her up for her traineeship.
I think i need to think alot about this one.
Ffrenchknickers
18-03-2009, 09:08
I just dont understand how she was given a blue card with no even being trusted with her own children
Yeah, bluecards are a bit pathetic really. I would say something....you hear too many horrible things happening in childcare centres, I think it is worth speaking up. :yes:
That definately is one for the "too hard basket" but as a parent I wouldnt want my child to be looked after someone like that and if I was an employer there is no way I would employ someone like that either..
Id probably do a letter but anonymous that way if for some reason they show it to her you are not implicated, you may not find out the result unless you go visit the centre BUT you can know that you did something...
There are no easy solutions but when you feel such a duty of care doing something even small is better than nothing...
I cant believe how easy it is to get a blue card? QLD needs to get with the times and do more for Child protection...
:iagree: Just because someone has a bluecard doesnt mean they're not paedophiles or people who have or are doing illegal acts just means they havent been caught, but in saying that most are genuinely good people.
Across the nation, at least 90 people are facing child pornography charges, including teachers and blue card holders, a former Australian Federal Police (AFP) officer and a former Perth sports administrator. LINK (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/07/2268012.htm)
Its very easy to get a bluecard! As for your situation... I would write a letter, I'd feel obligated. I believe they do need to know...
HugsBunny
18-03-2009, 09:54
You know what.. I wouldn't.
I would leave it up to her to stuff up herself.
If she's working in childcare, she would have had to have done some sort of course, and prac, and secured a job.... If her drug taking was that bad, I doubt she could have been able to do all that.
Not only that, but very very rarely are people in centres ever alone with kids... she will always have other people around to be accountable to.
Maybe she has changed, and who knows if she is a heavy drug user, or only uses recreationally on ther weekends (not that it's much difference, but at least on weekends it wouldn't effect her professional ability)
If she's as awful as you say she is, she's going to drop the appearance sooner or later, and lose her job anyway.. without the letter. Or just realise it's not the job for her, and quit.
What if she HAS changed, and is trying to quit the drugs, get it together, all that.... and then you send the letter and she loses her job because of it... even though she's not like that anymore.
I'd just keep out of it.
I agree with OJ. The information you have is through a friend's brother who says he's been in contact with her. It's not first hand information.
:iagree: Just because someone has a bluecard doesnt mean they're not paedophiles, but in saying that most are genuinely good people.
I would write a letter, I'd feel obligated. I believe they do need to know...
I'm sorry, I don't understand what child pornography and paedophilia has to do with this woman allegedly taking drugs :confused:
Sorry bout that I meant to say like people going down the wrong track, I was reffering to the child pornography as to say that its very easy to get a bluecard.
I agree with OJ and Tasma. It doesn't sound like you know these details to be fact.
If you don't want to talk to the director at the centre then at the very least you should be raising your concerns with the QLD childcare licencing body. That will at least start a file on her and perhaps they will raise concerns with the director.
BOSS302WMOM
08-04-2009, 10:06
Oh my this is my worst fear, I found out a druggie/ from a bad bad crowd when I was younger was looking after kids(was possibly going to work at my childrens centre). I would want to know especially with this girls behavior.
I to think they would not take it seriously unless you had some evidence or one of the prents happened to come into this info and brought it up with the centre.
It really sucks that these people can work with our kids just because they have no been caught yet, I worked with a girl who was a teacher(she worked with during the school holidays) she is not someone I would want near my DD when she starts prep... I have actually changed my choices for prep due to where she is working. She hates her job, dislikes kids, is an alcoholic, loves to get high....
She is teaching at a catholic school
I know bucketloads of women who work in child care centres..there are only 2 I would leave my Dd with. The rest scare me silly.
In saying that, maybe she wants to make up for her past mistakes. Her story will come out..she'll confide in her co-workers.
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