Circumcision

[Blonde Assassin]

I know this is a VERY touchy topic so I don't want to go into whether people think its right or wrong...

I just want to know whether for those of you who have had baby boys recently and have wanted to have their boys circumcised - have you had problems getting this done in the hospital you've given birth in????

If so, where have you been advised to take your baby boys to get this done?? I'm located in Melbourne, so it'd be great if people know of any places in this city they'd recommend :)

This is our first baby, we don't know the gender, but if it were a boy its something we may consider so I'd like some valuable information if anyone knows..

Thanks :)

[SorenLorensen]

i have girls so obviously i don't know too much about it but i am pretty sure they no longer do it in the hospital as routine for newborns and you go to an outside doctor for it.

if you go to the PRO circ threads there is a thread called something like "can i find you ????(yeah, i don't remember any more :laughing:) and you could either PM the OP or post in the thread and he will head you in the direction of a doctor.

hope that helps.

oh and if your considering it have a read through both the pro and anti circ threads, there can be some useful info in there. that way you can weigh up your options with opinions from both sides.

[Hooves]

I have no idea how you will go getting it done where you are, as I don't know VIC at all.

I had my first son in a public hospital in a country town.

The midwives treated me like a lepper for wanting to surgically alter my boy, so I dropped all discussion of it. (they were the terms used)

Believing I could still get it done at the six week check, with my doctor.

BUT as usual (for me) I was wrong:laughing:


If you are wanting this procedure done, tell your doctor now, while you are pregnant, if you know you are having a boy, get all the balls rolling now.

SO that as soon as your bub is born, he can be done, within a few days.

I think my doctor advised me I had 72 hours after birth. OR I was told I had to wait until he was 2years old.


AS a consequence of learning this the hard way both of my boys are not circumcised. AND my doctor did ask me when my second son was born, did I want it done, and he would organise it.



BUT since we had no intention of putting my two year old boy through that, we decided not to do our new born one either.


SO the lesson is learn what you can while you are pregnant and raise these issues while you are pregnant.

That way you can make an informed choice, and if you decide to do it, you will know exactly where you are to go, etc.


Sorry for the novel.:ecomcity::ecomcity:

[IndigoJ]

I have no idea how you will go getting it done where you are, as I don't know VIC at all.

I had my first son in a public hospital in a country town.

The midwives treated me like a lepper for wanting to surgically alter my boy, so I dropped all discussion of it. (they were the terms used)



Same as me, they midwives reduced me to a bawling mess two days after i had my son.

I went to my GP who gave me a referral to a clinic. It was about $400 but got most back on medicare.

[zephani]

We live in NSW but we were told that there were only three or four Doctors in our area that did circumsion.

We were told you had to have it done before they were six weeks or after 12months. Because if you wait after six weeks they have to have anethestic. We were also told that it would cost around $500 and that you would get some back from Medicare.

[little_fish]

get all the balls rolling now.


Sorry, this may well be inappropriate but :laughing::laughing: The choice of expression for a thread of this topic... Just made me chuckle.

[littlemissmoi]

haha to above poster.. I did think the same thing :o

My friend recently got her boy circ'd in Brisbane, and there is only one clinic who did it. She took him in at about 8 weeks, and they put the little plastic thing on, and five days later it fell off.

[Milliner]

You cannot get it done in a public hospital anymore – it’s classed as a therapeutic procedure and is now seen by the medical profession, and rightfully so, as cosmetic surgery - *unless of course, it’s for medical reasons*

[poppie]

I am in NSW too and I know a friend of mine had to drive for 1.5hrs (in Sydney) to get her DS done. At the hospital I worked at, the boys were always older as they would never perform the procedure on a conscious patient (after watching I know why). Maybe you could ask your OB or you can always ask your G.P. if they can reccommend anyone to you.

Good luck

[Lily of the Nile]

There is a place in Melbourne called Melbourne Circumcision centre. The dr there also performs them at private hospitals around Melbourne.
http://circumcisioncentre.rtrk.com.au/?scid=21103&kw=2403646
I don't know anyone who has been there or used him though? So can't give any recommendations. Good Luck

[CrankyAndTired]

if you do end up having a boy and circ is something you decide to do then I agree with the previous poster who advised to research it during pregnancy..

We had a great OB who was able to refer us to a paed surgeon. This particular dr only performs them before the age of 6 weeks so its important to get booked in as soon as bubs is born.

So paeds will only circ in the first few days of life, some still advocate waiting for the baby to be 6mths old and to go under general to have the proceedure..

So my advice - if you decide to go ahead - is to find out who does th procedure in your area, what method they use and what time frame they do the procedure in... HTH.

[ButterflyKissesX]

We had our son done in Adelaide as we are in a country town were its not done. IMO You would be better off seeing your GP when you get out of Hospital and telling them you have already decided you are getting it dont you no the pros and cons you just wont a referral. Seems to be a touchy subject to most Drs but you have the right to make the choice at the end of the day its your child no one else. Sooo GOODLUCK with whatever you decide!!!:hugs:

[Dee2]

I done my homework with my doctor and there was a doc in the same clinic that had been doing it for the last 20yrs. Cost me $80..i done my baby within 2 weeks, as being a baby they wont remeber and i wanted him to be like his father so he doesnt feel differant. Plus his father has a friend that had to have it done as a teenager and it did mess him up alot, i wouldnt want my teenager going through that when older and remeber everything of it.
I wanted my boy to be the same as all the boys in my family. Thats my opion and i dont think i harmed him as within an hour after it being done he was back to normal again with no side affects. I ahve no regrets with it at all.

And dont mention it at your hospital just do your homework and get it done unless you want to open your self up for debate.

[Blonde Assassin]

Thank-you IndigoJackiah! And thanks to everyone else who has placed some useful info here..

Its inevitable that people will want to make their opinions known on such a hot topic..

As much as I enjoy posting questions on these forums, I think I'll think twice before I ask something else like this again :rolleyes:

[beebs]

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As much as I enjoy posting questions on these forums, I think I'll think twice before I ask something else like this again :rolleyes:

Or you could just put in it the pro circ thread - heaps of pro circers with heaps of info hang out there and don't go on any of the other threads, so you'd probably get even more replies to your specific questions.

[IndigoJ]

Thank-you! And thanks to everyone else who has placed some useful info here..

Its inevitable that people will want to make their opinions known on such a hot topic..

As much as I enjoy posting questions on these forums, I think I'll think twice before I ask something else like this again :rolleyes:

I am glad that i have helped.

Yes i do not usual get so cranky when it comes to posts but i have had enough of others trying to ram their personal preferences down others throats, by ways of intimidation and making you feel guilty. I made a post once and got no useful information just lots of people telling me my doctor didnt know what he was talking about(funny i thought they went to years and years of medical school so they can say they know about the subject). But apparently a women who has given birth twice is the person i should be listening to, not the doctor with 20 odd years of experience. Hmm sorry bout my little rant. :) Good Luck with the birth of your little bundle, wherever, however and with whatever you choose.:)

[IndigoJ]

If the OP was only looking for support in her decision to Circ, maybe she should have placed it in the PRO-CIRC section.
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It could be possible that the OP didnt know there was a section devoted to that. Im sure she would have posted in there to avoid the PP judgements.

[IndigoJ]

It is you who has been making the judgemnts in this thread.

Kettle, black and all that.:detective:

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How so???

[xkwzit]

I have deleted a bunch of off topic posts and this thread has been moved to the pro-circ section. A reminder of the OP:

I know this is a VERY touchy topic so I don't want to go into whether people think its right or wrong...

I just want to know whether for those of you who have had baby boys recently and have wanted to have their boys circumcised - have you had problems getting this done in the hospital you've given birth in????

If so, where have you been advised to take your baby boys to get this done?? I'm located in Melbourne, so it'd be great if people know of any places in this city they'd recommend

This is our first baby, we don't know the gender, but if it were a boy its something we may consider so I'd like some valuable information if anyone knows..

Thanks

If you can help the OP out with her question, please do. Any debate about the practice of circ is off topic and will be deleted. Can I also remind you to please report posts that you find to be offensive and not retaliate in the thread? All off topic posts get deleted eventually.

Cheers

[JohnC]

You would be better off seeing your GP when you get out of Hospital and telling them you have already decided you are getting it dont you no the pros and cons you just wont a referral.

Regardless of one's views on RIC, this is very poor advice. Health decisions should always be thoroughly discussed with your GP or paediatrician, if you are seeing one.

Circumcision is surgery and is absolutely contra-indicated by a range of conditions, including hyposapdias, micro-penis and haemophilia. It is relatively contra-indicated by most forms of neo-natal health compromise, including prematurity.

Your doctor may also have advice and information that you had not previously considered.

[JohnC]

In the interests of balance, my advice above cuts both ways (pardon the pun :o). Balanitis obliterans xerotica (BXO) is considered an absolute indication for circumcision, while certain urinary tract abnormalities may be relative indicators, according to current RACP guidelines.

In these cases, also, thorough discussion with your child's primary healthcare provider is essential so you fully understand the situation and can make informed decisions in the best interests of your son.

[ButterflyKissesX]

Regardless of one's views on RIC, this is very poor advice. Health decisions should always be thoroughly discussed with your GP or paediatrician, if you are seeing one.

Circumcision is surgery and is absolutely contra-indicated by a range of conditions, including hyposapdias, micro-penis and haemophilia. It is relatively contra-indicated by most forms of neo-natal health compromise, including prematurity.

Your doctor may also have advice and information that you had not previously considered.


This thread is in the Pro Circ section:thumbsup:

[JohnC]

This thread is in the Pro Circ section

Indeed it is. I would have thought that everyone, not just those who oppose RIC, is interested in sound advice consistent with medical practice guidelines.

If you believe anything I have said here is untrue, please so say. I am happy to discuss, or correct if I have been in error.

[ButterflyKissesX]

Indeed it is. I would have thought that everyone, not just those who oppose RIC, is interested in sound advice consistent with medical practice guidelines.

If you believe anything I have said here is untrue, please so say. I am happy to discuss, or correct if I have been in error.

I 100% agree with what your saying and no that it is true however Im still a pro Circ. After a long debate on weather to do it or not on bubhub, I got emailed pages and pages of information for and against and I decided to go ahead with it. That was my discision for my son.

And I found it hard to get a refferral the Dr had me in tears my DH ended up demanding the refferal off the dr. I had researched it long and hard and had already made my decision.

[N&L Mum]

I live in NSW and i had my DS done. The Doctor we went through came highly recommended by family and friends he was fantastic it cost $650 and we couldn't claim anything back from medicare, this doctor had a private practice and i had to have a referral from DS GP. He had to be done before 6weeks or had to go under general if he was over 6weeks. My DS was done at 2weeks and it didn't bother him at all..

[JohnC]

And I found it hard to get a refferral the Dr had me in tears

I am sorry that you had an unhappy experience with your GP. However, be aware that doctors are under no ethical obligation to either perform, or provide referrals for, non-therapeutic procedures on children. This difficult area has been most extensively disussed in a British Medical Association paper that can be accessed here (http://www.bma.org.uk/health_promotion_ethics/consent_and_capacity/malecircumcision2006.jsp).

The well-established principle here is that the "best interests of the child" exist independently of parental preference.

Unhappy experiences between parents and doctors are more likely to occur if one brings a pre-determined approach to the discussion.

After all, what is the point of having a discussion with a doctor if you have already made a decision. And that goes for all areas of child health, but particularly with infants who cannot participate in the decision-making process, and even more so with elective procedures that may present an unnecessary risk.


Now all of this means that it has become increasingly difficult, and in many cases much more costly, for parents seeking non-therapeutic routine circumcision of their sons. Understanding why that is the case may be helpful to all parties trying to negotiate these issues.

[xkwzit]

Again we have drifted off topic. The OP was asking how one would go about organising circumcision if, that is in the end what she decides to choose.

If we have nothing further to add, I will close the thread.

Cheers

[Blonde Assassin]

Wow so here's my thread :laughing:

Haven't been on in a few days & glad I've finally found this section! It would've saved alot of angry comments and PMs if I had taken the time to find this section!!

Thanks for all the constructive comments since I last posted, for the record, from the research I've done and from my personal opinions I am pro-circ - and will be seeking information before I'm due as to where/how to get it done if I happen to have a boy :)

[JohnC]

for the record, from the research I've done and from my personal opinions I am pro-circ

Could I ask what research and/or personal opinions?

[Blonde Assassin]

Could I ask what research and/or personal opinions?

I'm not up for any more arguments so I'm sorry - but I'm not going to respond to your question

[N&L Mum]

Wow so here's my thread :laughing:

Haven't been on in a few days & glad I've finally found this section! It would've saved alot of angry comments and PMs if I had taken the time to find this section!!

Thanks for all the constructive comments since I last posted, for the record, from the research I've done and from my personal opinions I am pro-circ - and will be seeking information before I'm due as to where/how to get it done if I happen to have a boy :)

If your from sydney or surrounding suburbs i can refer a the doctor who did my son,he was fantastic..