Jan 09 Births - March Chat

[bootiful]

Welcome to March ladies:wave:

thought we could do with a new thread the other one was getting really long.

well nic was 6 weeks yesterday...gone so fast.

how is everyone doing?

[Cordelia]

Ooooo this BF is tricky hey!!! I wish I was one of those women who it just came naturally to.

My story!!! After deciding not to breastfeed I am having terrible engorgement and pumping isn't doing the job - I'm getting HEAPS of milk (300ml this morning) but it's not draining it from all the parts of the breast so parts of them are swollen and lumpy still. I've had a massage in the shower and it's feeling a bit better now. But man!! How do you STOP breastfeeding? I guess that's not what people want to tell you. I was feeding him yesterday in absolute pain.. he looooves it but i just can't manage the pain. I felt like I was so relieved to give it up but am stuck after the huge decision to stop. argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mitty - is it the mini pill? I had bleeding for the first few days of taking that too. I remember having that last time as well. It did stop eventually. I would give it a few weeks and see if it settles or go to the docgtor for a different brand.

twinmum - dont worry! he' s just telling your breasts he needs more and helpign them to up your supply. It will be over soon - he's just upping his order that's all :) I hope that your Dh "came out" and did what he was supposed to do!! Argh - lots of fun hey.

mummy to mason - :hugs: You know expressing is not an indication of your milk supply and like Shell said - it's easy to gulp down milk. Daniel will just keep on drinking from abottle if I let him!!

Speaking of which - I looked up the way you work out hwo much milk to give him for his weight. It came to 6 feeds of 125ml. ok, well, he is having expressed milk (around 160ml) followed by a top up of formula. Sometimes he has over 250-300ml a feed. I dont get it. was he getting this much breast milkf rom me? I'm very engorged even after expressing. He wasn't putting on that much weight!!!! So doesn't make sense. Too confusing.

btw we tried infant's friend last night after he grunted for around 4 hours and it worked magic.

ok head too fuzzy this morning better go before i start telling you my life story :laughing:

[tracynben]

hi everyone just a quickie from me, no time for personals.
Went to a friends house yesterday with kids and rich, was nice to let someone take over the kids for a couple of hours. They have a spa, but didnt get chance to get into it.

Jayden slept great last night, had a feed at 5pm, then slept 6.30pm till 12.30am, feed back to sleep at 1am till 5.30am, so he seems to be feeding and sleeping better now im lettin him do what he wants not what the book says.

tracy xxxx

P.s . cordellia as for ur boobs, i think theres two ways u can do it, either gradually by dropping a feed every couple fo days, or you can go cold turkey.
I went cold turkey after bf for 6 weeks with ben, bascially i just put 2 cold cloths inside my bra, and tied something really tight round by boobs, apperently this is the advice they give you, after a few days i was back wearing a normal bra, im not sayin that will work for u, but you could give it a try. It is a bit risky thou, cos u risk gettin blocked ducts and maybe mastitis.

[Shell31]

Thanks for starting the new thread Angel.. How slack are we.. We used that last one for 2 months lmao.. Wow.. 6wks already.. time flies huh.

M2M - You've really had a rough trot with the b'f havent you. You've already given Layla more the 7 weeks of your breastmilk & that has given her the best possible start in life to guard against infections etc. I can only imagine how hard it would be to be constantly battling to keep your milk supply. As for Mason & his speech problem.. Hun you can't do that to yourself.. Its like saying I shouldnt have let Mason play outside or else he wouldnt have stubbed his toe.. I truly believe that being a happy mother with a content baby is the absolute best medicine in this world. I think I've told you before I persevered b'f with Brooke for 4 months which was 4 months too long.. This is going to sound horrible & I feel guilty saying it but I hated it & it got to the stage I hated her even touching me :no: PND didnt help.. She was a fussy, screaming, unhappy baby. She is STILL Hard work at 9 :laughing: I even went to stay at Tresillian with her for a week. Uggh I shudder thinking about when she was a newborn. So believe me I'm under no illusions about this b'f business. I will do it, I will try my best but if at anytime Daisy is unhappy or I've had enough.. I'll wait a week & see if I feel the same way.. if I do then I'll stop. Its just more important to me for us all to be happy. Not just Daisy & I but Aaron,Theo & the girls too.. It really does effect the whole family when you're having problems & are unhappy or stressed. NOBODY can say you didnt give it a good go. Hang in there & keep giving her what you have for as long as you can. :hugs: Very proud of you Haylie.

Brummington.. Dont make me call you.. Where are you sista???

Cordelia - Good god you are a milk machine arent you.. Isnt it cruel this b'f business. I slowly weaned my other 3 over a couple of weeks.. Dropped one feed a day then two then eventually down to morning & night. Then dropped the night.. Then the morning.. weaning is painful.. You feel like your walking around with basketballs under your arms & on your chest lol I believe you can get a Dr to prescribe something to help dry you up but I've not used it & don't know much about it to be honest. Ohhh Im thinking of getting some infants friend for those horrid nights.

Well afm.. I cleaned my back deck today with the pressure cleaner in preparation to stain it tomorrow. Went to Bunnings & got everything I need. Im going to try & do stuff like that while Im on maternity leave.. Daisys been a dream today.. Theo's been good although he was up really late last night. Dont know why he never does that but we were over him lol.. Girls went back to their Dads today for the week.

Tracey - Thats great Jayden is more settled now your letting him do his thing.. Well done.. Hows Ben??

Hope your all having a lovely day
Rachelle x

[bootiful]

Cordelia - stopping bf is tricky if your body is still producing lots of milk, keep hand expressing and it will die down soon.

Not sure bout the formula feed amounts but you'd be surprised how much their appetite can increase and vary day to day, feed to feed and overtime.

Nicole just had a bottle of EBM 150mL then wanted my boob. Othertimes she can drain both boobs, and then want more.

Oh and I think at bubs age even if your going to formula you should still being doing comfort boobie feeds as they really like the attachment, but if its too sore then that's another story. JMO but another way to try decrease your supply while not having engorged breasts. And if you do go cold turkey you will get blocked ducts and thats bloody painful enough.

tracynben - hun im glad your doing what you feel is right rather than what a book says, books are great guidelines and helpers but should not be followed to the letter nor be put above your desires and wants.


Thanks for starting the new thread Angel.. How slack are we.. We used that last one for 2 months lmao.. Wow.. 6wks already.. time flies huh.

HAHA i wasn't sure if we were allowed multiple threads but when I saw that the other group had one i thought why not.

AFM - nicole has been a bit sooky lately, i think she is having another growth spurt, and she is still blocked up poor thing. steph is being a right royal pain in the butt, she is really demanding and extremely sooky. i hope its just a phase as she used to be so sweet and cute and now its just this sooky mess all the time.

[Brumington301]

Hi Ladies,

Sorry, been MIA for a few days (thanks for missing me Shell). I've had a bad few days, been really tired and just wondering what the hell I'm doing!

Won't be a long post cause still really tired but just wanted to know if babies can have their 3 week growth spurt early? Oakleigh won't be 3 weeks until Wed but he was very late so was wondering if perhaps this makes a difference? Anyway, he's eating sh1t loads, I can't seem to keep up (similar problem to a lot of you by the sounds of things recently - sorry to read about your problems Dee). Had a few tears yesterday just cause I was so exhausted but feeling a little better today after some good catch up sleep.

I tried to talk through the whole situation with DH yesterday and he fell asleep while I was talking - OMG, I was so upset. :crying:

My thing at the moment is questioning BF'ing when I am so tired. The benefits of BF'ing, apart from the obvious being good for bubs, just aren't working for me. I am still sterilising bottles, still heating milk (EBM cause he can't get enough from the boob), not getting anywhere near enough sleep cause once he's down I have to express again for 20 mins etc, etc. I woke up the other night and put him straight on the bottle cause I was too tired for the fight on the boob. I thought to myself how much easier it would be if he were on formula cause I could do that then go straight back to bed with him but, no. I then had to express for 20 mins, sterilise the expressing equip and lose yet more sleep cause I thought I hadn't produced enough. The stress of it all! Why can't I just attach him to the boob? :crying:

Sorry for the rant. I will hopefully have time for personals tomorrow.

Off to sleep now....:sleeping:

[Cordelia]

Thanks for your advice everyone. It's really quiet and this is my 2nd post for the day - I must be very sad!! Had a good day as I expressed and fed him with EBM all day. he only had one formula feed (which he hated!)

Brum - good to hear from you :hugs: the early weeks are soo soo sooooo hard. Dont' be under any illusions that formula is easier. Breastmilk is made for their little stomachs and it's perfect for them. I'm finding my perfect little baby is not so perfect on formula - he doesn't sleep and kicks and grunts and fusses. You're doing a great job - be easy on yourself and do what you need to do to survive!

angel - sorry that nicole's being sooky. I hope she gets better for you soon.

Shell - go you handywoman! it's great that Daisy is giving you the chance to do all that :) how much longer do you have on maternity leave?

tracy - good for you getting out and great that you're finding everything working betger going with the flow :)

better go and find my life away from the screen :laughing: (i do have one - honest)

[Shell31]

Morning Girls,

Cordelia.. I have no life either. I posted twice yesterday & here I am today & its not even
8 o clock lol I have 6 paid months off(combination of maternity leave & long service leave) and will go back July 1st. I can take another 6 months off but it will be without pay so pretty sure that wont be happening. As for being a handywomen.. omg you should see me with the pressure cleaner!! I love it.. and don't even get me started on the hedge trimmer. I get out there like the freak from those Halloween horror movies who ran around with the chainsaw & I trim those hedges to within an inch of their life.. :rolleyes:

Brum - Yep I missed you. Sounds like Oakleigh is going through a growth spurt if he's feeding alot more often. It can be very draining. I agree with Cordelia. Formula isnt the easy option. It certainly has its benefits but so does b'f ing. Its still really early days for you & b'f ing can take 6-8wks to establish. Your both still learning to do this so go easy on yourself & try not to stress too much or you'll forget to enjoy your beautiful baby boy.. Go L falling asleep on you.. omg I dont know if I could have not slapped him.. Or shaved off an eyebrow at the very least :laughing: Men.. lol

Angel - Theo's been a handful at times. Im not looking forward to Aaron returning to work tonight. He has 2 nightshifts which isnt so bad cause I have him all day today but then he'll be a wreck for the next 2 days. I hate trying to keep the kids quiet for him to sleep. MIght have to head to Mum's each day. Not good that Nicoles been sooky. Sounds like she just likes snuggling with her Mummy. If we lived closer Steph & Theo could play & wear themselves out :p

Everyone else.. where are you??? Its been way to quiet in here. Have a lovely Monday ladies.

Rachelle x

[GoneBatty]

Hello everyone!!

Sorry i havent been keeping up at all! But i hope we are all doing well,

Things have been going well for us we have seen a mortgage broker and found out what we need to get a loan pre approval. We needed to save $6k in like 3 months to take advantage of the $14k FHOG which we thought would be nearly impossible. But i called my dad last night and he is willing to lend up $4000-$5000 of if and we'll save the rest and prob a bit more to have more than $6000 which makes it a hell of a lot less stressful for us!! So now we can go back to our broker in a month or so and say well we now have this much money lets get the ball rolling :laughing:

So exciting! Sorry for the selfish post!!

Alyssa is growing way to fast and was already 5.6kgs at her 6 week check which was 2 weeks ago! so i reckon she'd be at least 6 now! she is such a chubby baby which is so different to DS he is and always has been a skinny boy.

Other than that she is sleeping pretty great and she even spent a night at her Nannas last weekend, DPs mum and sister were dying to have her! i was worried about her all night of course but she was fine!!

Well have to go get ourselves ready for an appointment, will try keep up from now on!

Take care all :)

[justmum]

we're having a lactose overload issue here so i wanted to post some info on it for anyone who has a fussy / gutsy baby (bottle or breast fed)


Lactose overload

Lactose overload can mimic lactose intolerance, and is frequently mistaken for it. An overload is commonly seen in babies consuming large amounts of breastmilk, ie in mothers with an oversupply. This may result in symptoms such as an unsettled baby with adequate to large weight gains, more than ten wet and many dirty nappies in 24 hours. Baby is usually less than three months old. Ironically, a mother may perceive that she has a low supply because her baby always seems to be hungry. The nappy count can be the biggest clue to what's happening. What comes out the bottom must have gone in the top!

There is a vicious cycle here - a large-volume, low-fat feed goes through the baby so quickly that not all the lactose is digested. (More fat would help slow it down.) The lactose reaching the lower bowel draws extra water into the bowel, and is fermented by the bacteria there producing gas and acid stools. The latter often causes a nappy rash. Gas and fluid build-up causes tummy pain and the baby 'acts hungry' (wants to suck, is unsettled, draws up his legs, screams). Sucking is the best comfort he knows, and helps move the gas along the bowel. This tends to ease the pain temporarily, and may result in the wind and stool being passed. Since the baby indicates that he wants to suck at the breast, his mother, logically, feeds him again. Sometimes it is the only way to comfort him. Unfortunately this provides another large feed on top of the other one, which hurries the system further, and results in more gas and fluid accumulation. The milk seems to almost literally 'go in one end and out the other'.

Many mothers whose babies have had this problem have found it helpful to temporarily change from an on-demand breastfeeding routine. They aim to slow the rate at which milk goes through baby, so they feed one breast per feed, or set aside say a three-hour period (adjust this according to the severity of the oversupply) and every time baby wants to feed during this period, they use the same breast. Then they use the other breast for the next three hours, etc. This way, each time baby returns to the already used breast, he gets a lower-volume, higher-fat feed that helps slow the system down. When the baby's symptoms are relieved, the mother is able to go back to a normal according-to-need breastfeeding routine.

Where the problem is severe and/or long-lasting, it might be worth trying to determine why there is an oversupply of breastmilk.
Is the mother timing feeds and switching sides after a set number of minutes?
Has something caused the baby to be unusually unsettled that has resulted in frequent comfort sucking and an oversupply?
Is secondary lactose intolerance adding to the overload situation?
Sometimes a mother is worried about having a low supply and overcompensates and overstimulates her supply.
Perhaps the baby has been unwell, or is suffering discomfort from a difficult birth, and sought comfort in frequent feeds.
Some mothers just have a tendency to oversupply - there is a normal variation in this as in everything else about our bodies. In days gone by, these may have been the mothers who could have made a living as wet nurses!

Specific ways to help with each of these is beyond the scope of this article. However, individual situations can be discussed with an Australian Breastfeeding Association counsellor, an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC) or other health professional. The Association's booklet Too Much has tips for helping oversupply problems, and Why Is My Baby Crying? has lots of suggestions for soothing unsettled babies.

http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/lactose.html

[BubsNo1]

:wave: ladies, I'm here too!

Just been trying to get over a head cold the last few days. Been fighting it as best as possible and popping all the pills / vitamins etc. As yet bubs doesn't have it. Fingers crossed he avoids it :fingerscrossed:

It's been a bit hard for me to keep up of late. I guess feeling tired and run down doesn't help, but hopefully this week will be better! :yes:

Hope everyone is well, (or at least on the improve!) :hugs:

William's feeding and sleeping seems to be going OK and I think his tummy pains have settled somewhat. Although some nights he will sleep for 6 hours, other nights he will be up every 3 hours :rolleyes:

I also have to get into the habit of giving him more play/tummy time. (I've been a bit slack in this area)

He will be six weeks old on Wednesday, what a steep learning curve it's been!

Sheree xxx

[Nickimumto1]

Hello to all,

I have a new laptop :smiliedance::smiliedance: so i can finaly do some real posting, as the previous computer would die after 10 min or so.

This week has been busy for us too, we have put in an offer on a house and should hear back today. They have had 6 other offers and thay are being presented to the owner today, should hear soon.

Bubs no1 - Hope you get better soon, I am always forgeting to give Liam tummy time, must remember.

Gone Batty - Hope you get your home loan soon, we have found that ING have a good rate and fees, we tried the commonwealth but they are driving me nuts by not answering my questions and not keeping appointments..where are you looking to buy? Looking a houses is a lot of hard work we have found that the prices that the estate agents put in the ad are 20 - 30K less that the house sells for. I fall in love with the house and it sells for more that our budget. Now when we see a nice house we know that we can't afford it..:laughing: we can only aford crap...

Codelia - If you want to dry up your milk see your doctor as there is medication that will cause you to dry up. It can take weeks to dry up with out medication. Thanks for the coments about Liam's name, Daniel was on our list too but DH has a mate call Daniel and i thought that he would think that we named our son after him.

Brumington - I am fulltime formula feeding Liam and i wish that i could just go out without having to have bottles and formula and then there are the times when i have gone out and i think he wants to feed and then he drinks 30ml and does not want anymore. Then 1 hour latter is screeming for food and i dont have a bottle. When i breastfeeding i could still do tings with one hand like eat, when you formula feed you have to use two hands. There are advantages to formula but if you can stick at the breastfeeding the long term advantages. Please don't feel pressured, but i thought that i would give you the disadvantages to formula feeding. When i expressed milk i did not steralise the pump just washed it in hot water, and left it to dry on the sink.

Mummy to Mason - Are you still taking the Motilium to help your supply? I thought that i could not express till one day i was so tired that i was just staring at the TV with the pump going on low and it just started to poor out, it was because before i had been watching every drop come out and getting stressed that there was nothing there. Don't know if this will help.

As for us- I have my 6 week check up this week with the doctor, hope that we all get given the all clear as i would like to return to the gym this week, i still feel so out of shape. Liam is doing well still having trouble with his sleeping durring the day, but he went to sleep at 9:30 last night, woke at 11:30 toped him up and he woke again at 6am. Hope this happens again tonight.

Hope everyone has a good day.:)

[honeydew]

M2M - You've really had a rough trot with the b'f havent you. You've already given Layla more the 7 weeks of your breastmilk & that has given her the best possible start in life to guard against infections etc. I can only imagine how hard it would be to be constantly battling to keep your milk supply. As for Mason & his speech problem.. Hun you can't do that to yourself.. Its like saying I shouldnt have let Mason play outside or else he wouldnt have stubbed his toe.. I truly believe that being a happy mother with a content baby is the absolute best medicine in this world. I think I've told you before I persevered b'f with Brooke for 4 months which was 4 months too long.. This is going to sound horrible & I feel guilty saying it but I hated it & it got to the stage I hated her even touching me PND didnt help.. She was a fussy, screaming, unhappy baby. She is STILL Hard work at 9 I even went to stay at Tresillian with her for a week. Uggh I shudder thinking about when she was a newborn. So believe me I'm under no illusions about this b'f business. I will do it, I will try my best but if at anytime Daisy is unhappy or I've had enough.. I'll wait a week & see if I feel the same way.. if I do then I'll stop. Its just more important to me for us all to be happy. Not just Daisy & I but Aaron,Theo & the girls too.. It really does effect the whole family when you're having problems & are unhappy or stressed. NOBODY can say you didnt give it a good go. Hang in there & keep giving her what you have for as long as you can. Very proud of you Haylie.


Thanks so much Shell. You have been such a wonderful support with your PM's and emails and just making me feel like I'm not alone in what I'm going through. I can't thank you enough :hugs::hugs:

Thanks for posting that info Justmum. I'm sure it will help others out. See, what would we do without you?! How is your BFing going, has your thrush cleared up completely?

Brum- when I was in hospital the midwives told me you no longer need to sterilise fanatically (this has changed even from when I had Mason and everything had to be sterile). So you could get away with washing your breastpump & bottles with hot soapy water and rinsing it in hot water and letting it air dry. I do this with my nipple shields and only boil them maybe once a week. Or if you have a dishwasher, do your bottles in that because it gets so hot and steamy in there anyway. Like the others have said, formula feeding isn't always the easy option, and hopefully your expressing & topping up with EBM & formula is only a temporary solution. What has kept me going is the thought that one day it will be as easy as just whipping out my boob and bub having a feed- no clean up, no preperation, simple and easy. But of course there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with deciding to give up on the breast feeding (lord knows I have come close more times than I can count). You have done so well to come this far and you have given Oakleigh the best start to life. You have perservered for a lot longer than I ever did with my 1st bub and you should be so proud of yourself . Whatever you decide to do we will be here to support you :hugs:

Tracy- have you been following the Dunstan lady's ideas about the sounds they make (forget her name now- the baby whisperer or something?). Do you think it works? I think I read somewhere that you have to learn it before they hit 12 weeks because after that their sounds change so I was thinking I should probably read up some more on it.

Cordelia- you are a milk machine! :laughing: I think I would need to express for a week straight to be able to get 600mls. I have no advice on helping your milk dry up sorry, but remember that the cabbage leaves work wonders in relieving some of the pain. Might be worth a try anyway.

Angel- I hope you have a better day with your girls today. Its so hard when they are sooky and you feel tied to the lounge all day.

GoneBatty- how exciting about buying a house!! I hope it all works out for you. It would be so good to get the FHOG. We got the first home builders grant (or whatever it was called back then) when we built our first home a few years ago and it was $7k. Would much prefer the amount it is now!! We are building again at the moment but unfortunately don't qualify for it a 2nd time.

BubsNo1- I hope you feel 100% asap :hugs: Its tough when you don't know how much sleep you're going to get when you go to bed each night. It gets so much easier when they get older and you can be guaranteed a full nights sleep most nights.

Nickimum- good luck with the house, I hope your offer is accepted!! I'm not taking the motilium anymore- I ran out and my Dr won't give me anymore because he said I can't stay on it forever :( I am taking some natural herbs though. I will try what you suggested with the pumping and do it while I am relaxed and watching tv. Maybe I have it too high as well?

Well last night was awful- long story short is that Layla had a bottle and went to bed and then vomitted so much that she inhaled it up through her nose and in her throat and wasn't breathing. Thank god for baby monitors is all I can say. I had a complete meltdown and am blaming the formula because she would have never vomitted like that with breast milk. So today I have renewed motivation to keep trying with the BFing..... will see how I go because I keep changing my mind and I do honestly wonder if I am trying for nothing. But I will still keep giving her 2 bottles a day like my Dr said to because I need her to start putting on some more weight. Have added Blessed Thistle to my daily routine of fenugreek & lactation cookies and I'll see how things go. Mason is at daycare tomorrow so I'm going to ring this number that my chn gave me to get some advice on helping her to attach without the nipple shield as I firmly believe that it is the main cause of all our problems.

[justmum]

Hmm OK yes, my retirement from this thread went really well, huh? :o I guess you're all stuck with me. I just love to talk BF, so can't stop checking in to see how everyone's feeding (breast and bottle) is going.

I had such a hard time with H and he ended up on the bottle, so I know what everyone is going through with that. O and I are having our own struggles, but basically, we're doing OK. She won't take a bottle, so I really have no option now :laughing:

M2M, H has speech problems too. I have some really helpful info from a speech pathologist we saw in December - do you want me to send you a copy?

Brum, I hope you're OK sweetie - let me know how the technique is going. I forgot to say, start each feed with the shield and then take it off 5 minutes in using the technique I sent you. I really hope it works for you too :hugs:

Nickimt1, good luck with the check up.

Sheree, hope you're feeling a bit better. Summer colds suck.

GB that's great news about the $$. I hope you get the loan!

Cordelia, hope all is going well. Must be hard for you atm :hugs: Cabbage leaves do help - they actually decrease your supply a little so putting a couple of cold eaves inside your bra will help.

Angel, my 2 are being pains in the bum too :laughing: 2 kids is hard, hey?

Shell, hi love, hope you're having a nice weekend.

Hi to all. Sorry of I missed you. Man I have a sore left boob - hope O wakes up soon :laughing:

AFM, off to my nephew's 5th birthday once the kiddies wake up and I feed O.

[tracynben]

hi everyone
i cant believe its march already, where has the time gone.

JUSTMUM - glad u are staying and are enjoyin chattin about bf, and giving others good advice.

M2M - nahh i havent been following those baby noises things, well kinda but i think sometimes you get too obssessed with books n stuff, its best just to listen to ur own instincts and follow other things as a guide.

NICKIMUM - hope ur offer on ur house gets accepted. We lookin at building once we get our residency and hope its before june do we can claim the 21k, we really good do with the extra cash. We have already chose the design we like, just got to find a plot.
I dunno if anyone will know this but when you buy a plot of land, and ur still renting, can you pay a lower payment every month on the plot until u built on it?

BUBSNO1- hope u feel better soon. I find too at nights some nights he sleeps long and other not, it just depends, but about 6 week they can go through a growth spurt.

GONEBATTY - hope everything goes ok with ur pre approval, hopefully that will be us soon too.
You start back at work soon dont U ?

SHELL - was laffin at ur post on the hallowean comment lol.

BRUM - sorry ur having a hard time with the bf, dont give up if u really want to do it, it can take about 6 weeks to get established on it, but also dont feel bad if u want to give up and put him on formula.
The most important thing is mum and bub are happy and not stressed.

AFM - jayden been pretty good today up to now, sleepin n feedin good, hes going better at nights too.
He slept from about 8pm till 1am, back to sleep at 1,30am till 5am, then back to sleep.
Im gradually tryin to get him to feed at about 9pm so hopefully he will have a long stretch from then and i can get some good sleep.
also i wanted to ask everyone, over the last few days i been gettin lots of mucus from down below, is this normal, anyone else gettin it?

tracy xxx

[honeydew]

Justmum- I'm so pleased to hear you are sticking around. You have been such a wonderful source of information for a lot of us, you have obviously done a lot of research into all of this. Yes please, I would love the info from your speech pathologist. We used to see one last year but he wasn't really getting much out of it (I think he was too young) but we are looking at getting another referal again. And if you wouldn't mind, would you possibly be able to send me the info you sent Brum with the technique for feeding without the shield?

Tracy- sounds like you could be ovulating (unless you are on the pill?). Its normal to get a lot of mucus (its called cervical mucus) around ovulation time. Not sure about the land payment question as we own our land completely (only borrowing for the actual house) but you could speak with a mortgage broker.

[Brumington301]

:wave:

Thought I'd start off with me. me. me and then do personals after.

We had a check up today and Oakleigh is still 30g below his birth weight. (He did do a massive wee which she said could have been 30g worth - at least she knows he's got clear plentiful wee-wee's!). The nurse doesn't seem to concerned but has me on another routine in the hope that he will put on weight and my milk will come in more plentiful. This means 30 mins BF'ing, followed by 120ml of top up (either EBM or formula if not enough EBM) followed by 15 mins of expressing. This to be done every 4 hours. I feel like I'm forever clock watching but feeling better about having a stricter routine. I also believe that what works for one baby/mum will not work for another so it is important for me to follow advice given especially for me rather than advice from books...

Cords, Shell, Nickimum, M2M and JM - thank you all! Sometimes we need others to tell us we're doing a good job cause we just don't believe it ourselves. I don't want to give up BF'ing so it can be a good insight to hear that formula isn't the easier option. I must keep reminding myself that it will get better and I've only been at this for 2 1/2 weeks.

Shell - glad Aaron is feeling well enough to be returning to work. It must be a huge relief. Don't you be overdoing things though woman - you're crazy!

Gone Batty - way to go with the home loan. It's great that your Dad can help out aswell - it just takes that bit of help to get us on the ladder and then we're well away. With interest rates as they are at the moment it is probably cheaper to buy than rent. Well done for the 'night off' - I bet you were beside yourself with worry - not really a night off LOL!!!

JM - thanks for the lactose info. And also snide giggle on the side cause we made you stay!!!!! :laughing:

Bubsno1 - hope the head cold is clearing. It must be pretty rotten when you're trying to look after a new born as well.

Nickimum - good luck with the house. Hope you get it.

M2M - OMG, how scary what happened last night with Layla. It must have been one hell of a fright. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen again. I'm with you on the whole dry boobie syndrome. I'm on Motilium ATM and taking the Fenugreek and Blessed Thistle - where do you get the cookies from? Mmmmm - cookies!!! We'll both get there together....:hugs: Also, thanks for the advice on the whole sterilisation thingo.

AB - has the sookiness gone yet or are you in for the long haul?

To anybody I've missed :hugs:. Hope you're all well. X

[Brumington301]

Tracy - you were posting at the same time as me so sorry I missed you.

I'm pleased Jayden is sleeping better for you. It makes a huge difference to just get a good night sleep. I had a tearful day on Sat cause I was just so tired and everything seemed so hard. We must all get days like that though eh? Glad you're well rested though and ready to do battle for another week!!!

Hope all is going well with immigration.

[honeydew]

Brum- here is the recipe for the cookies- http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=29207&highlight=lactation+boosting+cookies I truly think they work, you can feel yourself getting tingly not long after eating them (I ate some about half an hour ago and am tingly already). Try not to worry too much about O being under his birth weight- it took Layla 3 weeks as well. I really feel for you because you are going through exactly the same as me :hugs: I agree that you need to stick with the routine you've been given rather than what the books and everyone else says. I was the same, in the end I had to block out what everyone else was telling me and just listen to my chn because I was getting too confused otherwise. Good luck with your new routine, hopefully it will all work out soon!

[earthfairy]

Hi everyone,

at the risk of giving you all deja vu, i wanted to let you all know that i will be leaving the thread also, ive kind of all ready left anyway, not that any of you noticed:laughing:

Anyway, i wont be posting in here anymore & its not because i dont feel like i "fit in" its because i dont really have anything to say to alot of your posts. I sit here sometimes & feel so judged as a mother by choices that i have made for Poppy.

I feel like most of you are so totally against formula feeding that i cant even come in here & chat about the minor issues im having with feeding Poppy - all because i am using formula.

SOme people CANT BF, and i was one of them.

Formula is not the devil & Poppy is thriving & growing so well, she is a happy baby & i am happy because she is healthy & growing.
I know that there are some of you also on formula but reading all your stories about BF issues & then replies with "DONT go forumla, breast is better blah blah blah...." i think, wow, am i going to be judged for Poppy being on formula?
Maybe I am jealous in a way that i wasnt able to BF Poppy, if i could i would, but i wouldnt bag formula feeding either.
A positive about formula feeding (there are always the negatives) my DH is away alot so there fore when he is home he is able to bond & enjoy the wonderful feeling of feeding your child, watching Josh feed Poppy makes me melt, they have this intense bond that is SO important as he doenst get to spend much time with her.

And routines....well, guess what! I dont have my DH at home, he goes away for months & months at a time & i have no family near me or friends with kids to come & understand or help me out. I NEED A ROUTINE TO SURVIVE!
I dont regret it, just because i have Poppy on a routine doesnt mean her needs arent being met. I love my daughter more than anything & am getting a little tired of feeling that i have to justify everything i do for her just to post in here.

Im sorry that i have to have this rant (im not typing this to be in a *****y tone either, im actually sitting here with tears rolling down my face im so sad):(

All of you were a great source of support for me when i was pregnant & couldnt imagine going through that journey without each & everyone of you on it with me. We did it together!

I just cant stand feeling like less of a mum or a bad mum for the choices i make. Maybe its just a part of motherhood, the part that i have always feared.

I apologise if any of yu take offence to this. It wasnt my intent, i just wanted you all to know how i feel. Plus DH left today & i am on my own for the first time since Poppy was born so im feeling a wee bit emotional.

Thank you all for being a part of my journey into motherhood, i enjoyed getting to know each & everyone of you. Good luck with your bubs & look after yourselves.

Big Hugs & Fairy Kisses
EF x :hugs:

[BubsNo1]

Thankyou ladies for your well wishes, it does make me feel loved, LOL :D

Just had to say, I gave William a bottle at 3pm today - he took 200mls (and kept it down) Usually the most he will take is 170mls. The tin says 150mls :rolleyes:

Anyhoo, I took him outside for 5 minutes to hear the birds and look at the trees, then brought him inside and put him on his playmat. He kicked and cooed away for a good 20 minutes. Then as soon as I saw him starting to grizzle I picked him up, changed nappy, wrapped and put to bed. And he is still asleep now :yelclap:

Why is it that sometimes they are so easy to settle and other times they are complete nightmares!! :dizzy:

[Nickimumto1]

Just a quick Post, iam typing with a todler on my lap pressing the keys (wants to be like mummy)

Mummy to mason - My doctor said that i could be on Motillum for as long as i breastfeed as it is safe medication somepeople take it all there life, and it is givern to babies, search this site and see all the other people taking it for 6+ months. You do need to drop the dose back to the recomended dose of 1 tablet 3 times per day. Hope this helps. I feel for you going through this with a todler at home, i hope you have help.

better go and put dinner on..

[BubsNo1]

Hey Earthfairy, I don't think any of the girls judge each other on here.:(

I'm sure we all firmly believe that happy mum=happy bub. I say do what feels right for you as a family. Sometimes it's hard to please everyone though I guess. :o

I really did enjoy reading all of your lovely posts while I was pregnant, it will be sad to see you go! :crying:

But we all do what we must, so thankyou and i wish you, josh & poppy all the very best. Hope to see you around here sometime in the future :hugs:

Sheree xxx

[Nickimumto1]

Earthfairy - sorry to hear that you feel that way, i too could not breastfeed, and my first was deliverd by c- section, never feel that you are less of a mother because of it, it was the reason that i left my mothers group and i still regret it. Do not go just because of this.

I enjoy your post, i am also following the save your sleep routine poppy is my motivation to continue.

You are doing what you have to for your family..

Hope you hang around.

[honeydew]

Kirsty- oh my gosh I am nearly crying reading your post :hugs: I know I have gone on about not wanting to give Layla formula but not for one single second do I look down on mums who bottlefeed! I bottlefed Mason from 4 days old and I definately agree that breastfeeding is not possible in some cases. No matter how determined you are or how much you believe in breastfeeding, it just sometimes doesnt happen. The only reason I discourage people from formula feeding is if I think they will regret it later on, I know I have regretted it. But not because formula is bad, I just would have liked to have experienced that side of things with Mason. There have been times when I have beat myself up about it but at the end of the day he is a perfectly healthy little boy and I can't ask for mre than that! I also agree that its great that the Dad gets that bonding experience with bub when they can give them a bottle.

Im sorry you feel judged. I can honestly say that not once have I read any of your posts and disagreed with anything you have said or anything that you do with Poppy (and even if I did it would be none of my business!). I firmly believe that you have to do what's right for your baby and happy baby = happy mummy :yes: Some of us are into routines, some of us aren't. I know I have been judged by some family members for continuing with breastfeeding and not getting her into a strict routine (one comment was that I was doing Layla more harm than good by 'trying' to breastfeed :() but at the end of the day you have to feel confident in your decisions as a mother and know that you are doing the best thing for your bub. No matter which way you go you are going to feel judged, that is one of the sucky parts of parenthood.

On reflection, I can see that the majority of posts are to do with breast feeding but I guess thats just how it is. I would be more than happy to give advice to anyone having bottlefeeding problems as well.

Anyway, I hope you read this before you leave and know that I am going to miss you if you leave as I have always enjoyed reading your posts :hugs::hugs:

[Brumington301]

EF - what? Please don't leave. What will we do without your lovely purple writing?! :no:

I just wanted to let you know, I for one will never judge another for the decision to bottlefeed. Nobody will look at you or Poppy any differently because you choose to use formula rather than breast. I am a firm believer in happy and healthy bub and mum is all that matters. I also understand that times are bloody difficult when partners work away and family and friends are not close by. I have just moved to this area and have just 1 friend who I know through my DH working with her DH. She has 3 kids so although a great source of info is busy with her own life. My DH does not work away but does work 5am - 6pm every day of the week. We do not get those evenings when I can ask him to stay up late or feed a bottle at night cause he has to get up to go to work 7 days a week. I can understand your need for a routine and would love to have one in place myself - God, I'm jealous, not judging.

I'm persuing BF'ing because I am absolutely bloody minded! I am only 2 1/2 weeks into all this so who knows what tomorrow brings? I will certainly not feel a failure if I find everything a bit too much. I was bottle fed and there's nothing wrong with me! :laughing: As my lactation consultant said to me today - you never look at kids at school and be able to pick out the ones that have be BF'd. I say up to you and f@@k what anyone else thinks anyway. Are we looking after Poppy at 3 in the morning? No!

Anyway, I hope you reconsider. You always made me laugh and I'll miss that when I'm having a rough day. You girls are my only source of sanity ATM!

M2M - thank you for the recipe. Does this mean I have to find the time to cook? I was scared enough that I had to leave the house to go to the shops to buy them!!!!! :laughing:

[Cordelia]

earthfairy - I hope you read this too:

I guess my posts could be perceived as being judgemental. Only because

a) I really wanted to breastfeed and found it bloody hard and know that a bit of encouragement can go a long way for others trying hard. (my comment re: formula not being the easy option is just what I've found - i can't settle Daniel after he's had a bottle. I would welcome any help as I'm no longer breastfeeding but no one has offered any).

b) I tried a strict routine with Daniel and it wouldn't work trying to fit in all the activities we do and with DD. I was just giving my personal experience - I have lots of friends on successful routines and really wanted to have a go at that as well but it didn't work out that way.

I wasn't trying to be judgemental. I just try and vent my experiences, my trials and my experiments on here in the hope taht others may benefit or may be able to comment, give advice or correct me.

We all have different babies, different lives, different personalities. we are all just trying to get along in the best way we know how and becoming accustomed to our new lives.

I'm sorry you felt judged, I'm sorry you felt that you weren't missed, (you were - but I just assume people are having a hard few days with their bub when we dont see them for a while)I'm sorry you wont be with us anymore :crying: It's a real shame as we have all been together since we were a few weeks pregnant.

Best wishes xxx

[bootiful]

hi ladies

been out at mums today so haven't been online..sorry :(

time for personals - and haven't you all been busy posting :D

Shell31 - spewin we don't live closer, lettin the kids run a muck together would be awesome!

GoneBatty - congrats on the home loan news, hopefully won't be too long and you'll be in your new home.

justmum - thanks for that info Dani, very interesting to read, makes me wonder if that's why Nicole is so restless and guzzles, maybe she's not just a hungry bubba, but she isn't like that all the time. i might mention it to the CHN on Wed and see what she thinks.

BubsNo1 - sorry to hear your not feeling well. Hope you get better soon and William doesn't get it.

Nickimumto1 - yay on the new lappy. i can't wait to get a new one.

I have my 6 week checkup tomorrow. i hope yours goes well. as for feeling out of shape im with you. i haven't been able to exercise much, esp with being sick last week, i feel terrible, really sluggish at times and soooo fat! Back onto it this week. Nicoles sleep is kinda all over the place too. Past 2 nights she has slept 7-9 hours, but then others she won't settle and just wants to stay awake, joys of a newborn huh :p

Mummy to Mason - i am so sorry to hear bout Layla's mishap. that would be extremely scary, snaps for the monitor, i have mine on too every night. Happy to hear that you are giving the bf another go, i hope it works out for you this time, i will have my fingers crossed for you! ABA should be able to help you with attachment and boosting your milk supply. Wish you all the best!

justmum - dani, do you think you could email me the speech pathology info too, i have Steph on the waiting list (12 months). And again...please don't go, your a book of knowledge that i'd hate to lose.

tracynben - *giggles* at the plot of land..sounds like a burial plot...a block of land sounds better HAHA.

mucous - nope, can't say i am, im drying up now and going back to normal, only slight discharge. can't remember if your breast or bottle feeding, but maybe your cycle is returning?

Brummington301 - sookiness - nicole is getting better, steph isn't.

earthfairy i wish you weren't leaving, really enjoy hearing bout you and poppy.

as for feeling like you are judged im so sorry to hear that. i personally am not against formula feeding if you have to do it, but can not see why someone would chose it IF they could breastfeed. You can come chat in the thread bout anything you like, that's what its here for hun.

I know what you mean bout letting Josh feed Poppy and getting that attachment with her. I express breastmilk so Ben and Steph can feed Nicole for bonding. It's lovely isn't it.

As for a routine, you do what you nee to do to survive. if that's a routine then so be it, what works for one person won't for another. If you are happy and Poppy is happy that's all that matters. Don't feel bad for doing what you thinks is best for your child. Esp when she is obviously growing well and she is just so damn cute!

Now that Josh has left, and as you said your emotional I would think you would want to chat to us girls to help keep you sane, please know we are always here if you wanna stay or ever wanna come back.

Anyways, this is a looooong post so won't bore you with cr@p bout me today HAHA...nighty night ladies xoxo

[epiphany]

Hi everyone...just thought I'd pop my head in (after not being here for absolutely ages).

How is everyone? How are all those gorgeous bubbas! Hard to believe how fast the time flies!

J is 2 1/2 months old already :eek: She talks (well...babbles)! She giggles! She sleeps through the night! She is by far the easiest, most laid back (& chubbiest) of my three kiddies so far & even though we got off to a bit of a rocky start (emotional attachment-wise), we're doing well now. Finally. Yay!

Hope everyone else is doing well. :hugs:

And big hugs, earthfairy :hugs: Don't ever feel you have to justify the choices you make for Poppy. You're doing a great job & shes absolutely gorgeous :yes:

[Shell31]

I'd actually really like to be able to come on here & not worry about offending anyone. Its abit ridiculous. If ANYTHING i've said has upset anyone then I'm sorry & I'll also apoligise for any future upset I may cause. I'm no expert at mothering, I'm no expert at breastfeeding or bottlefeeding. None of us are or else we wouldnt all be here trying to support each other.

Now call me a cow but I suspect EarthFairy that you are probably feeling very upset & alone now that Josh has left :no:. Big hugs to you. I feel very sorry for you that you don't have any family there to support you while he is away. Isnt that what this place is for? Why would you want to turn away from ANY support you can get while going through this? Who on earth has given you a hard time for bottlefeeding or for wanting a routine?? Let me at em.. Seriously.. Whats gone on that's upset you this much? Christ i'd pay money for a routine right now & believe me I'd switch to formula feeding in a heartbeat if I started having HALF of the problems some of you ladies here are having / had.

One thing I have learnt from being a mother of 4 & trying to breastfeed them all is that it would have to be the single most hardest thing I've tried to do in my life. I put myself through the wringer & yes feel guilty at times that I couldnt feed them from the breast for longer. The longest I got to was 5 months & I was over it by then. I've bottle fed longer then I've breastfed so If anyone wanted to ask me bottlefeeding questions I'd answer them. Nobody really has. BF is so freaking hard & its rare that someone can just do it.. Contrary to what anyone says it maybe natural but it doesnt come naturally if you know what I mean.. Sometimes its just downright physically impossible for some. Its a gutwrenching heartaching thing when it doesnt work out but at the end of the day as long as your baby is fed thats all that matters. It really is that simple. Like I said last night.. it effects everyone when it doesnt work out & there are problems. IMO a happy family is better then a stressed out breastfeeding mother.

Im sorry if this post sounds angry.. im feeling really upset & exasperated by it all. I've come to know & love you girls so much. We've shared so so much with each other (think mucus plugs) :rolleyes:
I believe we are a bunch of special people & I appreciate you all even if I dont agree with you all the time.

Thank you ladies for all that you've given me over the past few months. I really do appreciate it.

Now on a lighter note.. Pull your heads in you lot :p

[BellyFruit]

Woah what a busy day! I'm trying to get back in here as much as possible but today is rediculous!

Would just like to thank everyone for their advice about my milk "crisis" which in fact turned out not to be a crisis - I followed your advice and just fed fed fed and over night my milk supply kicked up a notch and Chace is feeding 3hourly now instead of 2hourly so that's a relief and things are going ok which I'm grateful for... Justmum, the information you posted about the lactose overload was pretty much what the lactation consultant PM'd me so I wont PM it to anyone (Was it you Shell who asked for that?) - I'm just so relieved to have this thread to post questions into because it has really helped me. I'm so grateful that apart from little hiccups like that, BF has been very good for me, attaching well from the get go and thriving - :hugs: to everyone with some BF issues, I think of you guys a lot and hope things go well...

Re formula vs BF: my twins were bottle fed - can't tell now though let me tell you! my honest opinion is as long as a woman gives BF a good go, if they cannot BF then the decision to go to formula is not a big deal, it is one to be respected. It's a tough call, however a mother's wellbeing is by far the top priority I believe when it comes to this subject - unhappy/stressed mum = unhappy/stressed baby...

On a happier(??) note - Tracy I believe the mucous is a sign of ovulation... hooray for that because I have it too (pls read the bottom of my signature...) I thought it may take ages to start ovulating again but aparently not for me... what are the chances of having TWO babies in 2009 eh??? that'd be interesting! :fingerscrossed:... :D

I will try for personals tomorrow - chins up ladies... I think of you all very often (eg, I saw a Brum ride on car in the shopping centre on saturday and thought of you Brum :laughing:) bubhub on the brain eh!

Take care

TMD x :flowerz:

[tracynben]

oooo im tired n wanna go bed, but im waiting for jayden to wake, he had his last feed at 4.20pm and has been alseep since 6pm, its now nearly half ten, he gotta be hungry soon.

Ill do personals tomos as im gonna wake him in a min and feed then i can go sleep.

I personally dont feel anyone judges anyone in here, we all come in to support each other more than anything, get advice and views and opionions on everything.
i dont feel i have ever come across judgemental and i try and look at things from both sides.
I think sometimes our emotions make things seem worse than they are.

For me i could bf, but i choose not to for emotional reasons, and i have always said do what makes u and bub happier, yeah bf is nutrionally better, but emotionally it doesnt matter.

As for rountines, i know i have wrote a lot about this, and for me personally a rountine just wasnt working, and with having a toddler too and tryin to work round playgroups n stuff, just wasnt workin.
Everyone has diff things that work for them, but no methos is right or wrong and no one is sayin that anyway is rite or wrong.

Sorry kirst u feel u have been judged, be sad to see u go, always feel free to come back.

tracy xxxxx

P.s. if i am ov def no sex at the mo lol.

[justmum]

EF, if you're reading this, I hope you reconsider leaving. There isn't any judgement here, just support.

I guess we talk about BF so much because initially it's so hard. It'll get easier for the Bfers over time and then it won't really be talked about again after about 3 months :yes:

Until then though, BF is really hard work and honestly we need to be able to talk about it and come to each other here for support with our problems. I am sorry if that makes you feel judged, but it's about us supporting each other - not about judging you.

Cordelia I had a thought about weaning - can you trying gradully swapping the EBM for formula?

So day 1 & 2 offer bottles with 120ml ebm and 30 mls formula and then every second day up the formula in each bottle by 30mls and decrease the ebm by 30mls? This should get bubby used to the formula and wean your supply down slowly so you don't explode.

[BubsNo1]

Hello ladies, how are we this morning?

William slept from 10pm (after having a top-up) right through to 6am this morning. Then he had another 120mls and back to sleep within half an hour. He has been asleep now for almost 3 hours. I guess he will wake up soon and I can get cuddles :D


I thought it may take ages to start ovulating again but aparently not for me... what are the chances of having TWO babies in 2009 eh??? that'd be interesting! :fingerscrossed:... :D

LOL are you crazy woman!!! :laughing: (seriously though, good luck!)


P.s. if i am ov def no sex at the mo lol.

That's funny Tracy :)

Hope everyone is doing well, and I love yas all :kiss:

Sheree xxx

p.s. I also just wanted to say that it's raining here in Adelaide, and it's absolutely wonderful. I'm loving the sound of it!

[Nickimumto1]

Hello :wave:,

Liam had his 6 week check today, and we are all doing well. Liam has a referal to a ped because his fontanel on hes head has closed and his head is changing shape. Doc said that it will not too serious but best to get it checked.

We did not get the house that we put the offer in on though. Not too worried, because there is another house in a better location that we want to see again and maybe put in an offer. They would not tell me how high the accepted offer was, i would like to know if we where way off.

Hope that everyone is doing well :

Hear a some updated photo's of Liam and Meaghan.
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/nickismif/100_1867.jpg
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/nickismif/100_1861.jpg

[BellyFruit]

Yooo hoooo :wave:!

Hey everyone... just want to pop in and say hi...

Well, the twins started at their new school today - actually only DS2 did as DS1 was sick... I dreaded going and picking him up as well, neither of my boys are exactly angels... they are sweet, loving little boys who have been possessed by some smartbummed, conniving spirit that has made them terribly rude, backchatty and embarrassing to take almost anywhere even my own family's houses... :o... I don't know - they're just strong willed and BOYS to boot... but that does not stop me feeling erky when I have to go see his new teacher and ask "so......... how did he go today?" (cringe cringe) there's always that pause first, (as she's trying to think of a diplomatic way of saying the above about my son) and it's the usual - he calls out a lot, wandered around the classroom a bit on his own and got his name on the board etc... sigh... the teacher is an old duck so no doubt has 'seen it all' but still, i have to take DS1 into her class tomorrow - then she's going ot have to deal with TWO of them! :o - my sister tells me to just laugh about it (their behaviour) because there's really not a lot else we know what to do - they are unruly but we're having trouble reigning them in unfortunately... hopefully a good Catholic kick up the bum will help them out a bit in the behaviour dept... I hate feeling bad as a parent because my kids dont bloody listen to me... bugger it...

phew - sorry, jsut needed to get that off my chest...

bbl hopefully with a happier post... oh and Chace spewed an ENTIRE feed on me this arvo... sigh...

TMD x :flowerz:

[k2ma]

TMD - I might as well not be in the room most days in terms of the boys listening to me...however, in real life (!) I am also a school teacher and can guarantee that your kids' level of behaviour is probably quite different to what you imagine it is at school:D

DS1 has just started Kindy and despite the crying every day when I leave him there he comes home with attitude plus...gorgeous.

DS2 backchats, hits, bites and scratches...(oh dear he sounds terrible, this is only when he is cross or being frogmarched to his bedroom for time out)

Most of the time they ignore what I say and I have to roll in the heavy artillery (Dad)...but when it REALLY matters they are pretty reasonable. I think we as mothers are often more critical of our own children's behaviour than others actually are.

EF - don't go. Your advice and help has been great for a lot of us on here. You have a really nice style of saying things so that they cannot possibly be taken the wrong way - not all of us have that gift (:pas you can see here, I fumble through my post) and perhaps when we write things in the hasty few minutes between kids needs, it is apt to come across the wrong way. ALso , I think it is often easy in these sleep deprived, hormonal, babymoon days to feel a bit vulnerable, especially with our first babies. I can't imagine anyone on here intending to be openly critical of anyone else. As many have said before me, we make choices for our babies that will result in happy babies and happy mothers...Your choices are YOUR decision, and you have made them for well thought through reasons.:thumbsup:

Oh dear - those are all the personals I can remember...to everyone else :hugs: if you need them. Keep up the great work January Mummies.

[Shell31]

Hi Girls,

TMD I feel EXACTLY the same with my 9yr old daughter. She has some behaviour issues & I swear I spend my entire days explaining things to her.. Why she can't do something and trying to make her understand & see that all actions have a consequence. I must say the Catholic school she goes to has been brilliant in helping with her & if all else fails I tell her gods watching everything she does :laughing: Im sure they'll be fine but Im so with you on being embarrassed sometimes. My only saving grace is that I have a daughter older then brooke & Theo & they turned out ok so nobody can blame it on my mothering skills lmao.. How did the little fella go starting the new school on his own? Are they very close in that they do everything together?

NickiMum... omg how sweet is Meaghan with those wonderful little red curls & wee little glasses.. awwww She's so so cute. Liam is a beautiful little boy too. I hope his head is ok :no:

BubsNo1 - YAY for William.. what a good little boy letting his Mummy have a long sleep. Enjoy the rain.. I love listening to it on the roof.

Hi everyone else. I did plan to do more personals but the little fella needs to go to bed shortly & Daisy is stirring so my time here is limited. Aaron's been on nights so I took the kids to Mum's today for the morning. Then when we came home I put them both to bed & stained the back deck. omg it looks so so nice. I looked like a leopard with Jarrah colored spots when I was finished though :laughing:

Back later,.,. can't type with Daisy in my arms..

Rachelle x

[BellyFruit]

Thanks K2ma & Shell - you've made me feel better... at least for today :rolleyes:... Alex was FINE without his brother, they're usually in separate classes anyway and they're not shy by any means let me tell you. They are close in the way that they play together at home pretty much non stop and some days I have to tell them to "shut up all that giggling!" as it goes on for HOURS!! lol... however they also enjoy their own space too... glad I'm not the only one... when they've been at the school a little longer, I'm going to bust out the God card too lol... can't hurt...

[tracynben]

ben doesnt listent to me half of the time either. He just looks at me while im tryin to stop him doing something, grins at me like butter wouldnt melt, and carries on what hes doing, i could prob be tougher on him, but i am when it really matters, he listens to his dad more than me.

both kids are now in bed, dunno if they are asleep yet, hopefully and then i can have a peaceful evenin, i keep drinkin wine every night, lol im suck an alchy now lol.

AND i never thought i would say this but i was lookin ay jayden today and was so besotted i ws gettin broddy arghhhh

tracy xxxx

[Shell31]

LMAO @ your typing Tracy... Enjoying your viiiino I see ;).. I so wish I could have a vodka or 17 :rolleyes:.

Well I've just waved Aaron off for his nightshift & there is the most unbelievably beautiful moon. Its a cool crescent shape, really bright & has these thin clouds through it. I'm tempted to get my camera out to take a photo but as tracy would say... can't be arsed :p I did however spend a few minutes admiring my stain job on the back deck... I LOVE IT.. Chose a nice deep Jarrah red color & it rocks.. I've also potted some plants in new terracotta pots for out the front & some hanging baskets for out the back.. I mowed the other day too cause Aaron wasnt up to it with his athsma & it was so long I practically had to get the scissors & snip around the windows lol j/k. Baked a cake with the girls the other day for the ex husband as it was his birthday & he hasnt got a partner. I hate the thought of anyone not getting a birthday cake so we do it every year. The girls get a kick out of it. I've had a very productive week. Can I sit on my bum for the rest of it now???

K2MA - Your post made me laugh.. They can be devils sometimes can't they. I will never NEVER forget going to Brookes parent teacher interview at kindergarten & the teacher looked me in the eye & proceeded to tell me she had been snitching some of the other kids food.. OMFG you have NO idea how much food I packed for that kid everyday & thats not the worst part.. *Hangs head in shame* She then told me that she took food out of the bin !!!! WTFFFFFFFF I burst into tears. I was absolutely horrified. Can you believe that?? Little freak lmao.. Gotta love her though she has spunk & thankfully she didnt take up the bin scavenging habit :rolleyes:

Oh dear Daisy is crying again.. Actually its a scream.. If she keeps this up I'm delivering her to Dad at work & doing the knock & run :laughing:

Back later.

[Cordelia]

Ahhh nickimum!!!!!! those curls are beautiful!! I wonder if Liam will have similar hair?

badly behaved kids - mine's an angel. she always does what she's told so I cant' really comment. AHAHAHAH YEAH RIGHT.

bubsno1 - good for you for your amazing sleep (and good for you I'm not next to you right now because I'd fly kick you in the head!!! so jealous)

Dads - I find it interesting that they're the tough ones in yoru household!! DD doesn't listen to a word he says. It's because he's constantly telling her to do things in a soppy way and she refuses and he doesn't follow up - so frustrating.

shell - your deck sounds awesome. You have had a productive week!!! I've decluttered my house for the last few weeks and been baking every couple of days. Made homemade paint today so I'm feeling very productive also!

twinmum - your twins sound like theyre a hoot and that you hvae heaps of fun with them. (despite what their teachers may think!)

Last night OH LAST NIGHT!!!!.... oooooo..... let's just say screaming from 5pm to 2am when he finally crashed. Couldn't poo; really wanted to; in absolute agony. Today I took him off the formula (s26 gold) and gave him breastmilk and thought the poo would never arrive!!!! It got to late afternoon and DD was very restless so i thought I'd dress them in their new hoodies and pants I'd bought them this morning and take them down to the park. And then DH could meet us there aftrer work.

well.....

If there is one way to make your kid poo, dress them in their new clean clotehs and take them out without nappies, wipes or cloths. The mess was so extensive that it made it from his ankles up to his ears - and the pram!!! let's not even go there. Needless to say DH rocked up and laughed, drove off and left me there to push the stroller home with poo-boy

gotta go

[Shell31]

Morning All,


TMD is was me who asked for that lactose info to be pm'd. Thanks for that..

Cordelia.. I was laughing so hard after reading your poo boy post !!! That is something that would happen to me and Aaron would do the whole drive away laughing too :laughing: He's already told me with a twinkle in his eye that he's working next week when Daisy gets her needles. I didnt even tell him the date or time yet :rolleyes:

AFM - Good night here. Daisy settled and slept from about 9pm. I woke her at midnight for a dreamfeed & she slept until just after 6am this morning. Can't complain about that. Not sure what we are going to do today. Dont feel like going to Mum's again today. Girlfriend has asked to meet up at the beach for a chat while Theo wears himself out but the beach with Daisy doesnt excite me. Might go to the park instead that way Daisy can atleast sleep in her pram.

Hope you all have a wonderful day.. Wonder how Kirsten's going? She was sick :confused: And we havent heard from MIW either for a little while either.. Hope Holly's ok.

Rachelle x

[Nickimumto1]

Hello to all,

Cordelia - :laughing: at the poo post, i have not had that but have had a full feed all over me in Target the day that i left the pram & nappy bag in the car.

Have you tried Daniel on another formula as i S26 gave my daughter an upset tummy and when i said to the MCH nurse she said that it is common and that they put too much Iron in the Gold formula's that can cause constapation. I use Karicare, but other good ones are SMA and Nan. Might be something to think about if he is unsettled after a feed and you want to continue formula feeding.

Thanks for the comments about Meaghan, i hope that Liam does not have too curly hair as his dad's hair is soo curly that he has to shave it short or he ends up with an afro :laughing:. You have to love the fro.

TMD - LOL at the twins at school, i remember the comments on my report card " easly lead by others" "Needs to pay more attention in class" etc.. I wonder what Meaghan will be like at school, when she was not at child care for 2 weeks they commented that it was very quiet around hear.

Tracynben - Meaghan listen to me, but will choose if she is going to do what i ask..the comments that i get at the moment is "no mummy you do it" or "i'm just..." . She said to me the other day when i said that she needed to return the cup to the kitchen, and i started the one, two three..she said i know mummy then you take the cup and i go to my room. She then put the cup in the kitchen. I must be consistant at least. Is she turning three or thirty three??

For all of you out there with toddlers, what do they eat for breakfast, Meaghan will only eat white toast and is hungry again at 9am. I have tried wheatbix, minniwheats, smoothies, poridge and some other things.

Thanks

See ya

[tracynben]

hi everyone hope u all ok

NIKKI - mt toddler eats various things, toast, fruit or cereal, but dont worry if she hungry at 9am, just give her a healthy snack.
they burn energy very quickly so if shes hungry then give her somethin.

SHELL - thata great with the sleep thing, ill be so glad when jayden is sleepin longer throu the nite, he does have one long strecth, but hes doing in the late afternoon, not night, arghhh.

CORDELIA - sorry about ur bad day and night, i was laffin at the poo thing, bet u wasnt at the time thou, but u will look back and laff.

AFM - im soooooo peed off now with jaydens application for a passport, WHY doe it have to be soooo complicated. NOW they want ID from my mum(who lives in uk), either birth cerficate or passport and it has to be the original not a photocopy.
I spoke to my mum she said theres a mistake on her birth cerficate, so i told her to send passprt, and she doesnt want to send that, WTF, if she doesnt send it ii cant get his passport or apply for our residency. ARGHHHHHHHHH, more delays.

tracy xxxxxx

[k2ma]

Cordelia - excellent poo effort. We have had similar happen while on holiday, travelling 4 hours in the car DS2 (17 months at the time) was upset and so we realized he must need a change of nappy, negotiated our way through some foreign city to find a supermarket, took him to the baby change room to find that his nappy, his tights, his trousers, his shirt, vest EVERYTHING was full of poo. :eek: The sink in the room was teeny weeny, so I used a whole pack of wipes cleaning him up, then had to flag down a shop assistant from the loos and ask if she could get me another pack off the shelves! Lucky we were in the UK so everyone spoke English and understood! It was the middle of winter though and I he was wearing so many clothes...Priceless.

Nicki - my boys either have toast or weetbix. Some days they eat the lot other days they eat miniscule amounts...they have fruit at about 11.

My turn to report a miracle now - the boys came in at 6 this morning with their milk bottles and woke me up. Lucas woke too which is unusual so we all sat there having our morning drink...the boys slipped out to play at some stage and Lucas had gone back to sleep so I just lay there thinking about when to wake up...next thing I know it is 8.30 eeek! However, for ONCE the boys had just occupied themselves sensibly, ok DS2 had a pot of vegemite and was sitting on a deck chair in front of Sesame street eating it with his fingers, BUT he was not smearing it all over the wall and carpet (as has happened before now!)

Am off to have a shower while Lucas still snoozes. Let's hope my luck holds out.

[muminwaiting]

Hello,

I didn't realise a new thread had been started, having very blonde moments at the moment.

I tried to read posts but I have the stupid advert running up and down my page over the text....Am I the only one..:geek: stupid computer.

I have Holly sick again with gastro, she is not a happy little girl at the moment.

I will try and re-login to see if that fixes my computer...

[bootiful]

Can I sit on my bum for the rest of it now???

Wow sounds like you have had a very busy week. Good stuff! I too have been really busy round the house, I love having my body back to do what I want now :D

As for sitting on your bum, if your anything like me then no, unless there is something good recorded on my dvd recorder :laughing:



well.....

If there is one way to make your kid poo, dress them in their new clean clotehs and take them out without nappies, wipes or cloths. The mess was so extensive that it made it from his ankles up to his ears - and the pram!!! let's not even go there. Needless to say DH rocked up and laughed, drove off and left me there to push the stroller home with poo-boy

gotta go

Omg Nic I laughed so hard at your post. Steph did that a few times when she was younger in the shopping centre, explosive poo is gross. Had to take her into the parenting rooms and bath her.


......but the beach with Daisy doesnt excite me. Might go to the park instead that way Daisy can atleast sleep in her pram.

Mum and I took the kids to the beach the other week, I was either chasing Steph round telling her to be careful (as I couldn't go in the water with her) or sitting on the sand feeding Nicole. It was so boring.



For all of you out there with toddlers, what do they eat for breakfast, Meaghan will only eat white toast and is hungry again at 9am. I have tried wheatbix, minniwheats, smoothies, poridge and some other things.

Steph won't usually eat till she has been up for an hour or so, and only has a hot milky drink when she wakes up. She will eat rice bubbles or whatever cereal we have open, toast with vegemite, peanut butter, melted cheese and ham, fruit toast.

Toddlers are always hungry and I've been told they should eat every 3 hours to keep up their energy levels.



AFM - im soooooo peed off now with jaydens application for a passport, WHY doe it have to be soooo complicated. NOW they want ID from my mum(who lives in uk), either birth cerficate or passport and it has to be the original not a photocopy.
I spoke to my mum she said theres a mistake on her birth cerficate, so i told her to send passprt, and she doesnt want to send that, WTF, if she doesnt send it ii cant get his passport or apply for our residency. ARGHHHHHHHHH, more delays.

tracy xxxxxx

Tracy im soooo sorry to hear bout your problems with the passport. This is really becoming a hassle. I really can't see why they need your mums passport, what if she was not living, then what? Your his mum so it should only be yours they want. I'd question why they need it. As for not sending it to you, I can totally understand why, the post looses soo many things and if that went missing it would be a huge problem. Can I also ask why Jayden needs a passport? Are you planning on traveling soon? Surely a baby doesn't need one for your PR application, esp cause he was born here...im confused.

Oh, not sure if mentioned this the other day....DH finally got his PR..its only been 4 years of bull$sh!t but he finally has it...im soooo relieved. I hope all this cr@p ends for you soon too. :hugs:



My turn to report a miracle now - the boys came in at 6 this morning with their milk bottles and woke me up. Lucas woke too which is unusual so we all sat there having our morning drink...the boys slipped out to play at some stage and Lucas had gone back to sleep so I just lay there thinking about when to wake up...next thing I know it is 8.30 eeek! However, for ONCE the boys had just occupied themselves sensibly, ok DS2 had a pot of vegemite and was sitting on a deck chair in front of Sesame street eating it with his fingers, BUT he was not smearing it all over the wall and carpet (as has happened before now!)

Am off to have a shower while Lucas still snoozes. Let's hope my luck holds out.

Sounds like you have had a fantastic morning hun, congrats the kids are behaving, lets hope it keeps up for ya yeah!


Hello,

I didn't realise a new thread had been started, having very blonde moments at the moment.

I tried to read posts but I have the stupid advert running up and down my page over the text....Am I the only one..:geek: stupid computer.

I have Holly sick again with gastro, she is not a happy little girl at the moment.

I will try and re-login to see if that fixes my computer...

Awww hun, sorry to hear Holly is sick again, poor bubba. I hope she gets better soon. Having gastro as an adult is painful enough, but when your that little...big hugs to her!

AFM - I have sooo much running round to do today, got Nicole's 6 wk check up in an hour, then have to go get some missing parts from Ikea for my tv cabinet, go pick up some plants I bought from Ebay, go do the food shopping.

Then if i have enough time left when i get home i might try have a nap, otherwise its finish painting the dining table, start sanding back a stand i have and paint that, finish putting back the stuff out of the old bookshelf into the new tv cabinet, fold the washing, pick up Steph from daycare, cook dinner, stuff the mcn's, push washing away, uh im tired just typing all this :sleeping:

well had better get to it, bye for now :wave:

[tracynben]

Tracy im soooo sorry to hear bout your problems with the passport. This is really becoming a hassle. I really can't see why they need your mums passport, what if she was not living, then what? Your his mum so it should only be yours they want. I'd question why they need it. As for not sending it to you, I can totally understand why, the post looses soo many things and if that went missing it would be a huge problem. Can I also ask why Jayden needs a passport? Are you planning on traveling soon? Surely a baby doesn't need one for your PR application, esp cause he was born here...im confused.

Oh, not sure if mentioned this the other day....DH finally got his PR..its only been 4 years of bull$sh!t but he finally has it...im soooo relieved. I hope all this cr@p ends for you soon too. :hugs:






well had better get to it, bye for now :wave:


Basically immigration said he needs a passport cos they need to stamp the visa in the passport. STUPID RULES, i wouldnt mind but we dont even need the bloody thing cos we aint travellin anywhere, and will prob never use it as it only last 5 years, waste of frecking money.
AND as for stupid passport people, i rung them and they said they can request what documents they like, WATEVER.
they make up there own rules arghhhhhh.
My mum reckons they mite want it cos of all the terorists out there now, so they take extra secuirty measures.

If it werent for the fact we didnt have a time limit on the first time home buyers grant and baby bonus i wouldnt be so bothered, but if we dont get our residency in a certain amount of time we gonna miss out on both of theses and we really need them.
My mum lives in uk and cant post it till friday, then its gonna take about a week to get here, so that gonna be nearly another 2 weeks now till we get the passport.

tracy xxxxx

[honeydew]

Hi girls

I still feel a little sad thinking that some people may have felt judged or that they didn't fit in :( I hope we can make a fresh start....

Epiphany- so glad you popped in cause I've been thinking about you and wondering how things are going!

Tracy- grr how frustrating! I hope it doesn't take too long and you make it in time for your baby bonus and the home buyers grant. How stressful. Why cant these things be easy?!

Shell- oooh your deck sounds so lovely!!! Jarrah is the colour of our nursery furniture which I LOVE so you have made a good choice there :thumbsup: I had a giggle at Brooke going through the bins at school- although it wouldn't have been funny at the time, I can imagine the look of horror on your face when the teacher told you!!

Cordelia- omg I am still laughing at your poo story :laughing: Maybe you could look at changing his formula to one that's good for constipation? As for being unsettled, it was probably pain from that so you could try a warm bath or doing the bike leg exercises with him. Poor little man. How are you going with drying up your milk, have you had much luck?

Didi- aw hun I'm sure your DS's arent as bad at school as you think :hugs: But even if they are, I'm sure the teachers have seen it all before and worse. Are they in the same class this year?

Nickimum- aw your babies are adorable! Love the red hair xo

Angel- you are very busy! I felt tired just reading your post LOL.

Is it just me or does anyone else think that its such a hassle getting out of the house with a bub (not to mention a toddler as well!) that its just not worth it??

MIW- oh no, poor Holly. I hope she gets over it asap. Does she still have her brace on?

k2ma- lol at your son with the vegimite- isn't it funny how when you become a parent its a good day if the child is eating the vegemite out of the jar instead of smearing it on the walls :laughing: Today Mason tipped a whole bottle of dog perfume into a cardboard box that was in the bottom of the linen cupboard with bath toys etc in it. The whole house smells of it now and its starting to make me feel a bit sick! Did you fully recover from your mastitis?

Toddlers who won't listen- I have one of those too!! Mason just will not listen to a word I say. He goes out of his way to defy me. For example- when changing Laylas bum he will grab a fresh nappy out of the basket for me without me asking BUT if I ask him to he will say no and refuse to do it. If I hear the word 'no' one more time I think I will scream!

There was more I was going to reply to but I've lost it now... I think my brain is still not fully functioning after pregnancy lol.

Us- Mason has been getting high temps so I'm keeping an eye on him and will take him to the GP tomorrow if he is still no good.

Have managed to feed without the nipple shield a few times although Layla is now fussing at the breast regardless of whether I have it on or not :hair: I could honestly cry some days, I feel like its not meant to happen and this is a sign that BFing just isn't for me.

[Cordelia]

Thanks for the laughs... pffft! he's been as regular as clockwork again today! I've got heinz formula now (altho he's only had one bottle so far) so hopefully that will be better. mummy to mason: My engorgement is heaps better. I;m actually still expressing 4-5 bottles a day so I want to keep the milk up - just not be explosive!!

nickimum: I find that DD isnt that hungry in th emorning either. I give her toast and a yoghurt, she loves having a boiled egg, or some rice bubbles. And then when she's watching play school and I'm trying to do house work i'll give her a plate of fruit which she devours. We find mini-meals work better here than just the full blown 3 mains a day.

tracy - I cannot believe the loop holes you are having to go thru. It's just ridiculous! - not to mention time consumign and worrying for you.

k2ma - thats funny! good for you - i cannot for the life of me understand how they can eat vegemite straight from the jar. ewwwwwww

MIW - gastro :( that's awful - i hope that improves soon and that the rest of you keep healthy. it's just the worst thing.

angelbaby - i hope you had a chance to sit down/have your nap - that day is ridiculous!

Speaking of which - i notice that lots of us going nuts with housework/home improvements. Is that some kind of hormonal thing after yuo've had the baby? DH is shocked every time he walks in the houes to the new things i've done and how clean it is. Just wondering if it's something to do with hormones seeing as it appears to be very common!!

mummytomason - good luck with the BF. DD was always really fussy and we fed with the nipple shield for 8 months. I've often wondered if perhaps it was a supply issue for us. not sure. no advice just :hugs:

AFM!!!! Daniel had his 2 month vaccinations today. Bawled his eyes out the poor boy. he had the oral one for rotavirus (which DD didn't get). the list of side effects is a bit scary - I hope that our night tonight isn't too bad. Apparently they could sleep for 24 hours and so far he has been asleep continually but happy.

And then this arvo we have our paediatrician appointment. he's 8.5 weeks and he was supposed to have it at 6 weeks but the dr was away. Hopefully it will be all good. Thank goodness my mum is coming to watch DD. I'm kind of sick of keeping her busy in waiting rooms adn doctor's appointments!!!

ok i'm going to make banana muffins with the black bananas i just found.. ewww!!! (they're not that black)

[BubsNo1]

:wave: ladies, hoping everyone is well!

MIL has been coming up every Wednesday to take me and William shopping. It's great, she's been doing all the driving and looking after bubs so that I can get a bit of a break. Today was her last official visit as the 6 weeks are up since the c/s, so I can now drive again, woohoo :yelclap:


bubsno1 - good for you for your amazing sleep (and good for you I'm not next to you right now because I'd fly kick you in the head!!! so jealous)

Geez thanks Cords, what did I ever do to you? LOL!! awesome poo story too, very descriptive! :laughing:


AFM - im soooooo peed off now with jaydens application for a passport, WHY doe it have to be soooo complicated.

Hi Tracy, sorry to hear that you are still having passport/visa dramas! hope it gets sorted soon :hugs:


I tried to read posts but I have the stupid advert running up and down my page over the text....Am I the only one..:geek: stupid computer.
I have Holly sick again with gastro, she is not a happy little girl at the moment.

Hi MIW, I did get that advert thing over the page a while back, but haven't had it since, bloody annoying isn't it!! Sorry to hear that little Holly is sick again. I hope she gets better soon. xxx


Us- Mason has been getting high temps so I'm keeping an eye on him and will take him to the GP tomorrow if he is still no good.

Hi M2M, please let us know how Mason goes. I hope that temperature comes down quick smart xxx


AFM!!!! Daniel had his 2 month vaccinations today. Bawled his eyes out the poor boy. he had the oral one for rotavirus (which DD didn't get). the list of side effects is a bit scary - I hope that our night tonight isn't too bad. Apparently they could sleep for 24 hours and so far he has been asleep continually but happy.

OMG! I didn't know they could sleep for 24 hours!! Thanks for the heads up! William is due for his vaccinations in 2 weeks :no:

Well I better go and get dinner on, have a good night ladies!
Sheree xxx

[Nickimumto1]

Hi :wave:,

Thanks for the responce to what your kids have for breakfast. Meaghan use to eat wheatbix and i was always happy that she had at least eaten one good meal, and now all she wants is toast. It is her way of asserting her independence.

I made Liam a appointment to see the paediatrician for next week, I have to pay on the day and it will be $215 for the visit :crying:. The bills never end and when i think we have go on top of things there is always something. Sometime i think that we need private health insurance, don't know if it would help that much.

better go, liam is screaming

[1stTimeMum09]

:wave: everyone

Sorry I been MIA..I am still sick and Ryley is going okay he had the snuffles but I gave him fess and it worked like a charmed..He slept for 5 hours for a couple of days a week ago and now has gone back to ever 3 hours :( I hope he sleeps through soon..He be 2 months on Friday and then on the 10th he will have his needles not looking forward to it..

Hope you all are well..
Kirsten

[Shell31]

Cordelia... I have a bone to pick with you women!!!!!

Daisy was as happy as larry in her bouncer this afternoon & I noticed a strange mustard yellow color to her little romper... Hmmm Wonder what that could be eh...:detective: You put the hex on me!! This poo was over a weeks worth & believe me it was HUUUUUUUUUGE. Up the back, up the front, in the fat rolls, in the girly bits, down the legs, all over the romper, all over the bouncer & all over me.. :rolleyes:

Thanks... thanks alot :p

[honeydew]

Shell- LOL @ Daisy's poo!! That'll teach you for laughing at Cordelia :p (just watch, Layla will do it now).

BubsNo1- your MIL sounds wonderful!!

Kirsten- :wave: sorry to hear you're still sick, I hope you get back to your normal self again soon. There is no magic way of getting them to sleep through the night unfortunately :hugs: Layla seems too good to be true- she slept 10pm to 6am last night! But my best friends little boy is still waking for countless feeds through the night at 6 months old. Do you wrap him at night? I often wonder if me wrapping Layla for night sleeps is what helps her 'realise' its night time..?

Nickimum- that's an expensive appointment! Is there a reason why you have to take him to see a paed and not just a GP? Sorry if you've already mentioned it.

Cordelia- glad to hear your engorgement is gone. I imagine it would be quite painful.

Mason seems a bit better tonight but we will keep him home from daycare tomorrow. We have to go out in the morning to choose our kitchen, front door, and a few other things for our new house. We are hoping to be in by May which is very exciting! :fingerscrossed:

[1stTimeMum09]

Kirsten- :wave: sorry to hear you're still sick, I hope you get back to your normal self again soon. There is no magic way of getting them to sleep through the night unfortunately :hugs: Layla seems too good to be true- she slept 10pm to 6am last night! But my best friends little boy is still waking for countless feeds through the night at 6 months old. Do you wrap him at night? I often wonder if me wrapping Layla for night sleeps is what helps her 'realise' its night time..?

I don't wrap him as he hates it..I did it a couple of times but he cries and make a fuss so I put the blankets on him tight..I would like to wrap him but no such luck..I feed Ryley on once in the middle of the night like 1 then at 4 then 7...He just self-settle himself to sleep..I wonder how long he sleep for. Lol. Yeah this cold won't leave me alone had it for nearly a week. Lol.

[bootiful]

tracynben - i hope your passport issues get sorted out soon hun.


Hi girls

I still feel a little sad thinking that some people may have felt judged or that they didn't fit in :( I hope we can make a fresh start....

sounds like a great idea!



Angel- you are very busy! I felt tired just reading your post LOL.

i didn't end up getting to ikea in the end, will have to do it tomorrow, but i did have a nap instead and it was lovely.



Is it just me or does anyone else think that its such a hassle getting out of the house with a bub (not to mention a toddler as well!) that its just not worth it??

Depends on where i wanna go, i went shopping today after picking Steph up from daycare and had both in the trolley, it wasn't too bad.

I've also been to the beach and park with both of them, but you do need a bit of help esp if the older one wants to do a runner.



I feel like its not meant to happen and this is a sign that BFing just isn't for me.

oh hun hang in there, its so worth it if you can keep it going. the benefits are huge, its easy, convenient, right temperature, free, nutritious etc. keep going with the shield on and off, sounds like your getting there from your posts in the bf thread.


Speaking of which - i notice that lots of us going nuts with housework/home improvements. Is that some kind of hormonal thing after you've had the baby? DH is shocked every time he walks in the houses to the new things i've done and how clean it is. Just wondering if it's something to do with hormones seeing as it appears to be very common!!

Im always like this HAHA. I just love changing things and updating. I've been updating our house since we bought it. I have to otherwise I get bored with it.



AFM!!!! Daniel had his 2 month vaccinations today. Bawled his eyes out the poor boy. he had the oral one for rotavirus (which DD didn't get). the list of side effects is a bit scary - I hope that our night tonight isn't too bad. Apparently they could sleep for 24 hours and so far he has been asleep continually but happy.

poor bubba, nicole has her shots next week, not looking forward to it.


I made Liam a appointment to see the pediatrician for next week, I have to pay on the day and it will be $215 for the visit

$215..thats insane, why do you have to pay for that? Why does he have to see a ped?



Sorry I been MIA..I am still sick

oh hun, we did miss you. hope you get better soon!


Cordelia... I have a bone to pick with you women!!!!!

Daisy was as happy as larry in her bouncer this afternoon & I noticed a strange mustard yellow color to her little romper... Hmmm Wonder what that could be eh...:detective: You put the hex on me!! This poo was over a weeks worth & believe me it was HUUUUUUUUUGE. Up the back, up the front, in the fat rolls, in the girly bits, down the legs, all over the romper, all over the bouncer & all over me.. :rolleyes:

Thanks... thanks alot :p

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH - oh cr@p, shouldn't laugh or i will jinx myself


We have to go out in the morning to choose our kitchen, front door, and a few other things for our new house. We are hoping to be in by May which is very exciting! :fingerscrossed:

I'm so excited for you, I can't wait to build.

AFM - my little buddha bubba has grown. She is now 5.1kg and 57.5cm long (apparently the length of a 3 month old). The CHN says she is doing so well, she has great posture when she sits up and her neck control is way more mature than her age.

She is laying on the couch right now talking to DH which is soooo cute...i love having a baby again :D

[Cordelia]

WHAT THE!!! :P

I will respond to these serious allegations tomorrow when I've had a good night's sleep. hehe

[Shell31]

Good morning lovely Mummys,

How are we all today? It is so chilly here this morning i've rugged DaisyDoo up & tucked her into bed in a wooly blankie. She looks so cosy & warm.

Cordelia - Can't wait to hear your defense :p Glad Daniel seems abit better on the other formula. Fingers crossed its a goer.. How did Daniel fair after his needles and how did the paed appointment go?
P.s - Our past due date banana's all go to Aaron's lizards :rolleyes: I'm a maniac at the moment around the house.. Can't seem to get the place exactly as I want it. I think it must be hormonal like you say. I'm looking at timber blinds or new blinds of some sort now. I also want to change the furniture but money just doesnt permit lol.. Its like I want to overhaul the whole house or something. I have de-cluttered like you but its just not enough.

Sheree - I wish my MIL was closer. She's in Melbourne and I know we'd have so much fun if we were closer. She's a wonderful women. Can't believe my luck actually cause my first MIL was a dragon :devil: lol So where you going to drive to Miss I've got wheels again???

Nicki - Wow thats alot of money for the Dr isnt it. Can you claim any of that back through Medicare?
Theo has good & bad days for breaky. Sometimes he'll polish off 2 weetbix, or a bowl of sultana bran, rice bubbles or cheerio's THEN have some toast. Other things we offer are yoghurt or crumpets, pancakes sometimes. Think variety is the key & like some of the other ladies have said little amounts often works well for us.

Awww Kirsten Sorry to hear your still sick. Might have to get some vitamins into you? Not good that Ryley is snuffly too. Has your mum been giving you a hand? I often think of you & wonder how you're going on your own. Would be good if we lived closer. I'd help out :D Any excuse to cuddle another baby lol

M2M - Glad Mason's feeling abit better. Theo was all good last night so has gone to daycare today. WOO HOO I'm going to do the last coat on the deck today & maybe trim the hedges out the front. Have fun choosing all your house bits today. Is the new house far from where you are living now? How exciting but stressful at the same time lol.. Will be awesome once its all done though.

Angelbaby - lol Im a workaholic. Aaron's always saying to me "GOD WOMEN.. SIT DOWN" lol I can't.. I like a tidy home & I almost feel like whilst I'm not working I have to get everything done & feel really guilty if I sit around & the house is untidy. 5.1kgs.. wow thats fantastic. She is certainly thriving isnt she. Well done !!!

MIW - Sorry to hear little Hollys been sick. Hope she is on the mend soon. Break your hearts when they are so ill. lol @ the annoying advert. I did see a post about that on here somewhere so maybe read that & someone will have some advice about how to get rid of it. It was in the computer / tech section I think it was. How is Holly going with the brace?

K2MA - lol @ the vegemite in the deck chair. Classic. Should have taken a photo. I would have loved to see that. Theo worked out how to open the baby powder. Lets just say my loungeroom looked like a snowfield :rolleyes:

Tracy - You are having huge drama's with immigration aren't you. I really didnt realise just what was involved. Seems so stupid to have to get your mum to post her passport out here.. How dumb. We once drove Aaron's girls all the way to Sydney airport to fly back home with their passports still on our fridge :eek: Thankfully they let them fly home but we had to post their passports back registered post & it took a week or so to get to Norfolk Island. Hope your Mum's gets to you intime for you to do everything you can to get the grants you're after.

Well thats two pages of personals.. *pats self on back*
Where's Fugly.. She's been MIA...
AFM - last coat will go on the deck today while Theo or Offaloo (nickname) is at daycare today. Not sure what else but no doubt I"ll pack a heap in to my Offaloo free day. Daisy had a dreamfeed at midnight then still woke at 4 & again at 7 so she's back in bed and i'm cleaning up while Aaron's getting my supplies from Bunnings. Have a wonderful day girls. I'll be skulking around here today.

Rachelle x

[bootiful]

Good morning lovely Mummys,

How are we all today? It is so chilly here this morning i've rugged DaisyDoo up & tucked her into bed in a wooly blankie. She looks so cosy & warm.

Angelbaby - lol Im a workaholic. Aaron's always saying to me "GOD WOMEN.. SIT DOWN" lol I can't.. I like a tidy home & I almost feel like whilst I'm not working I have to get everything done & feel really guilty if I sit around & the house is untidy. 5.1kgs.. wow thats fantastic. She is certainly thriving isnt she. Well done !!!

Well thats two pages of personals.. *pats self on back*
Where's Fugly.. She's been MIA...
AFM - last coat will go on the deck today while Theo or Offaloo (nickname) is at daycare today. Not sure what else but no doubt I"ll pack a heap in to my Offaloo free day. Daisy had a dreamfeed at midnight then still woke at 4 & again at 7 so she's back in bed and i'm cleaning up while Aaron's getting my supplies from Bunnings. Have a wonderful day girls. I'll be skulking around here today.

Rachelle x

Sooo tired this morning, didn't go to bed till 12.30 then was up at 1.45am for a feed then 6.30am for another feed, during that time Steph got out of bed 3 times and Ben was snoring like a train again...on top of that I just couldn't wind my mind down nor get comfy. Guess it just wasn't my night :(

It's chilly here too in the mornings, pain in the bum cause by lunch time its gone from 10 to 30C so means taking changes of clothes everywhere grrrrr

No idea where Fugs is....hmmmm...Fugs..where are you?????

What supplies are you getting from Bunning, I could spend million of $$$$ in there...come to think of it..i probably already have :D

well im off to my parents house today, was my dads birthday on tuesday and he's back in Perth last night so hopefully it will be a great day!

hope you are all gonna have an awesome day, or at least try too...bye :wave:

[BubsNo1]

Hello everyone! :wave:
I'm feeling great today, I think the cold has finally gone, woohoo!! :yelclap:(apologies Kirsten! - hope you can shake yours off soon)

Bubs is sleeping, feeding & pooping well (god bless you Infants Friend). And I'm getting lots of smiles too now :cloud9:


Sheree - I wish my MIL was closer. She's in Melbourne and I know we'd have so much fun if we were closer. She's a wonderful women. Can't believe my luck actually cause my first MIL was a dragon :devil: lol So where you going to drive to Miss I've got wheels again???

LOL Shell - DaisyDoo!! That's so cute!! :D
Yeah my MIL is great. And she's so in love with her Grandson, she will do anything for us, LOL.........I don't think I'm going anywhere today, to comfy & cosy inside on the computer :laughing:
I've been wondering about Fugs too......

Sorry you had a bad night Angel, hopefully you get a good sleep tonight!

Have a good day girls,
Sheree xxx

[1stTimeMum09]

Hi mummies..


Shell31-Awww Kirsten Sorry to hear your still sick. Might have to get some vitamins into you? Not good that Ryley is snuffly too. Has your mum been giving you a hand? I often think of you & wonder how you're going on your own. Would be good if we lived closer. I'd help out :D Any excuse to cuddle another baby lol

Aww thanks Shell..I love cuddling other babies too. Lol. Yeah mum is a great help especially when Ryley gets really grumpy and I am a little frustrated so mum takes him from me and gives me a little break..Yeah I am taking cold/flu tablets and they are sort of working..Where do you live?

Angelbaby-I hear you on the bad night..I been having those bad nights for ages :hugs:..I'm glad to be back..

I had no big poos as yet but he had a couple where he had some on his leg and foot..

AFM-Ryley will be 8 weeks tomorrow so I think he going through a growth spurt..He woke up at 10 down at 10:30..Then woke up 1:30, 4:30 and then 7:30.. He hasn't slept much all now just a 45 min nap..And now he has finally gone down to sleep..But now woken up again..:( Not sure what to do..Mum going to check on him..

[k2ma]

OOOoooooohhhhhh! I am so excited, my friend had her baby last night and I am really hoping to be able to visit later this evening.

Lucas had his needles on Tuesday. He was ok yesterday but really upset today - poor sossige. He was really crying hard and "screaming" this morning in pain. He kept doing little windpops and sounded like he had bad burpy wind too...I am guessing that is the rotavirus vaccine as the other two NEVER had this level of distress when they had their needles. He is asleep now, poor little man. Nothing seemed to console and comfort him at all.

Angel - you make me feel tired just reading what you do in a day!

Bubs n1 - glad you are better. It is hard when you are off colour...

Oh - thanks to whoever asked Yes I am fully mastitis free now - phew.

DS1 is at kindy this morning with NO TEARS - hallelujha! Hope he has a good day. This is a HUGE step forward for us (in week 5!) Oh and he got his first invite to a party...exciting.

Better go hang out the last load. BUT am not doing any more washing after this load - it will be my 17th load in 2 days...I do not want to see the laundry for the next week. Everyone can wash their own clothes, towels and bedding from now on!:p

[Cordelia]

Shell i think your daughter taught you enough of a lesson so i'll guve you a break,,, FOR NOW. Beware of what Daisy might serve up next time you laugh at my misfortunes!! I hope we get to see some photos of all the work you're doing! you could be all talk :laughing:

mummytomason - i hope you had fun pickin out your bits!! be sure to post some photos too when you get in there :)

1sttimemum - hope ryley settled for you. i know this sounds stupid but my secret this time has been to relax, breathe and be calm and to not fuss. Daniel seems to sense the minute I start getting stressed and thats when he's unsettled. :hugs: look after yourself.

angel - hope you had a good day at your parent's. I had a bad night last night - might have been the perth weather. I fell asleep at 12:00 and Daniel woke at 1 then 3:30. arggghhh how do we do it!!

bubsno1 - sounds like things are going gr8 for you. awesome :yelclap:

k2ma - 17th load!!! Are we supposed to take that literally!!!!!!!!!!!!! fantastic news about your friend - how awesome having kids so close together

needles - daniel was a shocker screaming (started at the paed appt of course :rolleyes:) We gave him panadol after dinner and all of a sudden he was his happy larry self again. i agree - i think its the new rotavirus as DD was a bit cranky but not to this extent.

paed appointment. ok last friday Daniel weighed 4.1kg.. that was when I started the bottles of expressed milk and 1-3 bottles of formula a day. yesterda he wad 4.63!! that's 530g in 6 days! pretty amazing seeing as it took him 8 weeks to gain 1kg!! I wonder if he would have had a growth spurt anyway

speaking of which - can they have too much milk? I know that you can;t have too much BM... but he has around 150-230ml 6-7 times a day and he has reeaaallly chubbed up in the last few days - I don't want him to be to heffer! (NB he's still only on the 15th percentile)

ok better clean up b4 DD wakes

[k2ma]

Yup - 17 loads. All the bedding, all the towels all the clothes...three kids and two adults makes for some exciting days...I honestly have no idea where it comes from...however, I had to wash the mattress protectors and the doona on our bed too, so there were 4 extra loads in themselves!

I am really hoping to visit the new addition tonight...fingers crossed DH manages to get away on time.

[Brumington301]

Ooooh - poo stories (loving them all! :laughing:).. 've got one too. A few days ago O was looking all cute and cuddle for my friend who had come to stay from Sydney when all of a sudden he let out a fart that I would have been proud of! My friend, who can be a bit prudish about farting, made a small comment and then we carried on our conversation. I then felt something wet and squishy leaking out the top of his nappy at the front I swear, if it didn't have velcro the nappy would have flown across the room. The really weird thing is, when I changed him he was covered with poo at the front but seemed relatively poo free at the rear end! Not sure what happened - projectile poo perhaps? DH was very impressed with the fact that he then pee'd on me while I was changing him and vomited on the change mat! DH always wanted to achieve the 'Trifecta' (as he calls it) himself!!!

Tracy - what a pain about the immigration. I don't really see why they need your Mum's passport for Jaydens passport? Seems very weird, but like you say they can ask for anyhting really.

Driving - I've had to start driving pretty much straight away and didn't wait for the 6 week wait. MIL left me with an empty kitchen and overdue library books to do something about plus I had to do things that might involve not running errands for other people (Dr's appt for O etc) so I had no choice. I've been pretty lucky with the pain though and was told as long as I could slam my foot to the floor in an emergency then we should be OK.

Medicare - did anyone else have a nightmare calling that number on the form? I've been trying for 48 hours and each time get an engaged tone. I even called another number thinking there was a fault with the line and they've told me to just keep trying.

Birth Cert - I still don't have O's back and we sent it off last week - how long do they normally take? Perhaps mine is taking longer cause I'm not Aussie citizen (DH is though so surely it would automatically give O citizenship?)

Shell - I'm on the the photos mate. My family have been hounding me as well. I just need to upload them to the pooter and I'll send some through. Thanks for the PM - I'm glad we're on the same page!

I know I have lots of other people I need to write personals to but I also have a bed calling my name - please forgive me X :flowerz::sleeping::sleeping:

[Nickimumto1]

:wave:

Hope everyone is having a good day, It is freezing down hear in Melbourne, had to dig some of Meaghan's blankets out for Liam as all i had was cotton ones, so he is asleep under a big pink blanket all cute and warm.

Meaghan is at childcare today, and i went out with an estate agent to look at houses as the two properties that we put offers in on have both sold for well out of our price range. Went to see 4 houses and now my head is swimming with houses and i am not sure what ones i like.

My SIL looked after Liam and they had a great time. She is young and does not have kids but had a great time showing him off to everyone, he was looking very cute and well behaved.

You guys seem to get more done than i can mannage in a day, doing the grocery shoping is all i can do in one day. I plan my week just to have one thing on each day as anymore than that someone misses a nap and get cranky, sometimes it me :laughing:. So my week goes:

Monday - Playgroup
Tues - Shopping
Wed - Libary Group
Thurs - Childcare
Fri - Housework & washing

Very boring, but i find it too hard to go out twice in one day. The hole in and out of the car takes forever. One day a lady wanted my parking spot, and i felt sorry for her as it took me 10min to get the kids, shopping, pram in the car and then i could not remember where the car keys where..

Re: Pead's appoint - Liam's fontanel on his head has closed and this should not happen yet. I will get $85 back from medicare. But still it is alot of money for an appointment.

Cordelia - I was told that they can not drink too much milk, Liam gained 1kg in two weeks when we put him on formula, the MCH nurse said that it will settle down and that he had what she called "little baby syndrome", that he was trying to catch up. He has settled down, but at one stage he was drinking up to 200ml in a feed. Make sure that you space the feeds and that he is not snacking. This is what Liam did, i just give him the dummy if it has not been more than 3.5hours between feeds, he did not like this at first, but now he drinks a full feed and has a good nap.

K2ma - 17 loads, i dont think that i have ever done that much washing, i think i would run out of room on the wasing line..mine can only hold two loads.

Better go and make the house look like i have done something all day..

[tracynben]

hi everyone hope u all ok.

NIKKI - sorry ur not having much look with houses, im sure something will come along soon. I keep wondering what to do when we get our residency, whether to buy, build or keep rentin and wait n see what happens. Its so confusing at the mo, cos the market is all over the place, well it is here in perth, dunno about the rest of aus.

BRUM - it doesnt matter that ur not a citizen as regards to the birth certificate, we re not even residents and we got ours back within 4 days. If its not back within another week i would ring them up.

K2MA - wow thats alot of washing, i thought 5 in a day was a lot lol.

CORDELIA - dont worry about the bottles. With jayden i just keep feeding him until he doesnt want anymore, just keep a note of it, and if he sicks any, and then u get an idea of how much he can take, he usually goes about 4 hours between feeds unless hes having a growth spurt. They say the best way to work out how much they need (but this is just avergae), For every kg of weight 150ml, and divide by how many feeds you do for the day.
Jayden is a right pig thou, i weighed him on the scales, i think hes about 5.6kg already and 60cm, and hes only 6 weeks, he can easily gulp down 180ml in 10 mins, must take after his dad, hes a big and very tall and lean.

1STTIMEMUM - sorry ur feelin ill hope u get better soon, and sorry ryley unsettled, maybe hes caught it from u, and just wants to be comforted.

BUBSNO1 - gald ur feelin much better.

ANGEL - sorry u had a bad night, luckily jayden was great last night after a very unsettled day, he fed at 7.30pm, slept from 9.30pm - 3.30am, yay, wish more of that would happen.

sorry if i missed anyone else.
AFM well i finally got round to cleaning my car, it needed as it ws full of bird poo. Not really done anything else, just lazed around. 'Jayden got his 6 week check up with CHN tomos.
I think im gonna take him for a walk before i pick up ben from childcare.

tracy xxxxx

[3already]

:wave: girls,

thought i'd pop on and say hello, not that anyone has noticed i haven't been on for ages!

Leon is doing really well, he is 5 weeks today and weighs 5.3 kgs! He is so long too, is wearing 00 clothes already!! He sleeps from 10pm to 630am most nights which is fantastic, not through anything we have done by the way.

I'm not so good, still having probs with the c section scar not healing properly in one spot, it keeps bleeding and is still so painful. I need to go back to the docs as my tummy is getting bigger and hard as opposed to smaller and flabby like it was a few days ago :confused:

I have been popping on and having a quick read to see how you're all doing but haven't felt up to posting much.

Is anyone planning a naming ceremony?

[k2ma]

I'm the same as you Niki. I get DS1 to kindy twice a week then spend the day between DS2 and DS3's sleeps and feeds, so do not get out...

Wednesday we get to play group but only cos it is DIRECTLY over the road...though we did not go yesterday cos Lucas was asleep.

I shop at late night shopping and that is my week. I am home all the time. No popping out, nothing. It can get very lonely and tedious as DH leaves for work at 5.30am and gets in about 6.30 or 7pm most nights (with the odd exception!)

No wonder I do so much washing:laughing::laughing::laughing:

3already - Lucas is in 00 sleepsuits cos he is so long...his little legs were squished in the 000. Hope your tummy is better. That does not sound right though.

tracy - enjoy your walk.

DS1 has his 4th birthday in three weeks. I am trying to think of a present for him...seems like Christmas has just been and they have not really played with all the toys they got then! I am thinking of a climbing frame / swing set type thing...get them OUTSIDE at last...my boys are such indoor kids!

[bootiful]

I'm not so good, still having probs with the c section scar not healing properly in one spot, it keeps bleeding and is still so painful. I need to go back to the docs as my tummy is getting bigger and hard as opposed to smaller and flabby like it was a few days ago :confused:

oh hun, i hate to say it.....dare i say it...i think you might have a blood clot in your tummy like i had, the first sign i had was my tummy went hard like a rock, then it looked all bruised then it got painful. Please please please go get it checked out asap, i ended up with emergency surgery to get it drained. I sooo hope its nothing major, but get it checked asap.


Angel - you make me feel tired just reading what you do in a day!

sorry :(.................................:laughing:


angel - hope you had a good day at your parent's. I had a bad night last night - might have been the perth weather. I fell asleep at 12:00 and Daniel woke at 1 then 3:30. arggghhh how do we do it!!

speaking of which - can they have too much milk? I know that you can;t have too much BM... but he has around 150-230ml 6-7 times a day and he has reeaaallly chubbed up in the last few days - I don't want him to be to heffer! (NB he's still only on the 15th percentile)

i honestly don't know how we do it, auto pilot i think.

as for the too much milk - i really don't know, i guess they could, maybe ask your CHN. I guess it depends on his height and weight, you would have to consider that.

Brumington - Driving - i drove from week 2 after my cs i think, i haven't had any problems, and i drive a manual.

Medicare - what are you trying to ring them for? ANy govt dept is stupid to try get hold of on the phone.

Birth Certificate - i think it only took a week to get Nicole's.



You guys seem to get more done than i can manage in a day, doing the grocery shopping is all i can do in one day. I plan my week just to have one thing on each day as anymore than that someone misses a nap and get cranky, sometimes it me :laughing:. So my week goes:

i like to keep busy, if i have to go out i try do it all in one hit, and getting the kids in and out of the car just has to be done unfortunately.



AFM well i finally got round to cleaning my car, it needed as it ws full of bird poo.

god my car is dirty too, covered in dust and dirt, the back is full of sand from the plants..i really should do it this weekend.

[Shell31]

Hi Girls,

I've had a really really long day with Daisy. I'm not sure what was wrong with her but she literally hardly slept all day. So not like her. She fed every 2-3 hrs... Also unlike her.. She's already gone through a growth spurt and she did that massive poo yesterday. She didnt seem to have pains was just really unsettled & didnt want to sleep. Eyes would pop open if we tried to put her to bed or she'd sleep for a little while & no amount of us trying to resettle her worked.. Her poor little eyes were so red & bloodshot :no:. She is finally asleep after a nice warm bath tonight so fingers crossed. I'm so tired.... I did get the back deck finished & will take photo's tomorrow. Didnt really get anything else done. Had some visitors thats about it..

I wont do big personals but do want to say I did miss you 3already. You & I I've always felt are similar in that we had our 4th babies & are.. dare I say it.. "older" mums lol. I'm so glad you posted.. I agree that you need to get your tummy checked out. My c/s scar starting weeping the week before my 6wk check up. I could see a couple of little holes in the scar :eek:. So gross. Anyways.. better to be safe then sorry. Hope you're ok :hugs:

Brum - lol @ O's poo story. Oh how our lives have changed huh.. that we are posting & quite proudly so about our babies poo's.. We Rock !!!!! I drove from about 2.5wks post op but just short distances i.e had to drop theo at daycare as he was getting too upset with Aaron doing it... I've been zooming around like a lunatic for weeks now. How's the feeding going?

Kirsten - Going to pm you..

Going to chillax now.. I'm done for tonight.. awwww Aaron's rubbing my feet.. :D

Ni ni ladies

[Bexta]

Hi everyone!!! It's meeeeeeeee!!! :wave:

This is the 1st time I've ventured into this thread... sorry for being so slack. :o I just have so much trouble keeping up with these large threads!!! I'll try though. :)

Is there a photo thread? Or do we just post them in here?

Here's my boy... 6 Weeks (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/BextaK/6weeks032.jpg):goodvibes:

Chat soon!
XO

[tracynben]

Hi everyone!!! It's meeeeeeeee!!! :wave:

This is the 1st time I've ventured into this thread... sorry for being so slack. :o I just have so much trouble keeping up with these large threads!!! I'll try though. :)

Is there a photo thread? Or do we just post them in here?

Here's my boy... 6 Weeks (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/BextaK/6weeks032.jpg):goodvibes:

Chat soon!
XO

hi bex, welcome to our thread, awwww so cute, loving those cute knitted pants.
just a quickie, i wanna clean the house first thing this mornin then i have nothing to do for the rest of the day, so i can just relax.
Hopefully jayden will be good, i just got back from droppin ben off from childcare, he fell alseep in car, put him in his cot n he wakes arghhhhh, got a burp out of him, hopefully that was all.
He was pretty good last night thou, had a feed about 7.30pm, straight to sleep till 1.30am, then woke again at 6.30am.

Im worryin too hes having too much milk, he gulps down 180ml and sometimes wants more, i think some days hes prob having more than 1000ml, but he doesnt sick any of it back, i guess though hes bigger than avergae, will ask CHN today when i see her.
Has anyone else bub got cradle cap, if so, any advice how to get rid, or just leave it, ben got it as well.

tracy xxxx

[Nickimumto1]

Hello ladies,

Bexta - :wave:, your boy is so cute, is he going to have red hair?

Traceynben - Cradle Cap (or crap as we call it :laughing:) you can remove with baby oil and a wet facewasher for Jayden. Rub the oil on his head and then wipe away with the wet facewasher, it will take a few times. For Ben use conditioner and a comb when he has a bath, again it will take some time.

Liam can also drink 200ml per feed and has 5-6 feeds per day, he never brings any of it up. I don't think he can drink too much as long as he is due for a feed i let him go until he won't drink anymore.

Shell31 - Hope today is going better, Liam has days like that sometimes. Hope she slept well over night.

Brumington - I had trouble getting through to Centerlink re: baby bonus payment, in the end i just sat with the phone and kept calling, after 30min i got through, but it is stupid, you should not have to do that.

K2ma - Glad to hear that there is someone out there who is home as much as me. I can still be busy, but we just dont go out that much anymore. Playgroup for us is only up the road too and we are quite often over 1 hour late, it just takes so long to get out of the house.

3already - :wave:wow over 5kg at 5 weeks was he big when he was born? I would go back to your Ob or GP, ASAP as your tummy should be feeling soft and the wound should have healed by 5 weeks. Hope that all is well for you. Take it easy.

As for us - I have finished sewing Liam some more nappies, as he has grown out of the small size that i made and the small itti bitti's that i bought. Just have to wash them and he will have 6 new nappy's. Will post a pic when i have time as i think that look so cute if i do say so myself.

Better go and do some cleaning while they a both asleep...

[Bexta]

Tracy - I've heard soya bean oil does wonders for cradle crap... just leaves them smelling like a dim sim JUST KIDDING! :laughing:

Nicki - I have a blonde & a brunette... so only fitting to have a redhead! Nah... he looks like my other DS who's the blonde in the family.

[tracynben]

lol nikki, i meant ben had it wen he was a baby lol, that made me laff, i need it too.

Had a very stressful few hours with jayden, hopefully hes asleep now, its 1.30pm and hes been awake since 6.30am, he just wont seem to settle, tried everything, had to rock him, i just lay him on our bed, hopefully the smell of us will keep him settled, BUT i gotta disturb him soon cos got CHN appt at 2pm, arghhhhh.

tracy xxxxx

[bootiful]

Hi everyone!!! It's meeeeeeeee!!! :wave:

This is the 1st time I've ventured into this thread... sorry for being so slack. :o I just have so much trouble keeping up with these large threads!!! I'll try though. :)

Is there a photo thread? Or do we just post them in here?

Here's my boy... 6 Weeks (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/BextaK/6weeks032.jpg):goodvibes:

Chat soon!
XO

welcome back bex....your little boy is very cute...cheeky smile!


Has anyone else bub got cradle cap, if so, any advice how to get rid, or just leave it, ben got it as well.

tracy xxxx

rub baby oil into the hair/head...leave it on and wash off at bath time...the longer you leave it on the softer the cradle cap gets.


As for us - I have finished sewing Liam some more nappies, as he has grown out of the small size that i made and the small itti bitti's that i bought. Just have to wash them and he will have 6 new nappy's. Will post a pic when i have time as i think that look so cute if i do say so myself.

Better go and do some cleaning while they a both asleep...

Making nappies, id love to be able to do that. I've found some great fabrics that would be very cute mcn's. Can't wait to see photos.

AFM - the dining table is finished, just gotta wait for the paint to dry then it can come back inside.

Just gonna rest for the rest of today, sort through my recipes and do my meal plan for next week.

Did anyone read an article from the magazine in their bounty bag called ' In praise of lazy parenting' pg74.

Its really given me a wake up call as to how much tv i let DD watch, i knew it was too much, but its given me the kick up the bum to get her out and about more, even if its just outside playing in the yard. We have a huggge park and play equipment on the corner of our street, literally 20mtrs away, and i never take her, apart from when we first moved it.

Also, I ate 1/2 a bag of mini easter eggs last night, just 1 by one everytime i got a drink from the fridge, soooo naughty i know, and woke up @ 4am for a feed with wicked heartburn. That has given me another wake up call to get my bum into gear and start eating better, stop popping cr@p into my mouth without thinking, and to get my exercise into gear.

[Cordelia]

ooooo easter eggs. i have to admit i boguht hot cross bun the other day for our sunday breakfast - it felt a bit stupid but MMMM yuuuum

3already - it's awesome to hear from you. i can't believe how well leon is doing. 00's!! and how good is that sleep.

activities - we've cut right back thsi term. we have playgroup monday, shopping tuesday, playgroup every 2nd wednesday, thursday - housework and friday swimming. will probably start another activity next week. it's nice for DD to get out and use up some energy - makes it easy on me.

rachelle - hope you had a better day with daisy

cradle cap - our CHN says that baby oil is crap - you should use olive oil. I have no idea. we got some oatmeal soapy stuff ( can't remember the brand right now)... and used a comb to pull it out. DD still has it a bit at 27 months.

bexta - it's great to see you!!! he is beeeeeeaaauttiful!!

tracy - what did the CHN say about the amount of milk? sometimes daniel will just keep drinking if I let him.

angel - i read about the amount of TV too. I think we can be excused at the moment with all the feeds. It's the only thing that gets DD not going round ripping the house to bits while Im busy with daniel. We can start gradually weaning.

afm - girl's night out tonight! dinner and then we're seeing phantom..oooooooo can't wait! Daniel fed 8pm 3:30pm and 7:30pm last night - AWESOME.. I know i should be doing a late night feed at around 10:30 but I dont mind getting up - it's kind of special. They're tiny such a small amount of time. When else will I get midnight cuddles with my little boy!! Am I mad? :P hehehe

better go polish my nails for tonight - yippee!!!

PS If any of you are reading this who haven't posted in a while, I know that we are missing some people. It's not that we're not thinking of you - it's just i can only focus on what's on the page. It's not malicious or intentional.... let us know how you're doing :hugs:

[Nickimumto1]

Hello all,

I am being slack today, have spent all afternoon on the computer looking at houses. But anyway here are the photo's
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/nickismif/100_1893.jpg
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/nickismif/100_1894.jpg
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/nickismif/100_1895.jpg
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/nickismif/100_1896.jpg
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/nickismif/100_1897.jpg

See ya..

[BubsNo1]

PS If any of you are reading this who haven't posted in a while, I know that we are missing some people. It's not that we're not thinking of you - it's just i can only focus on what's on the page. It's not malicious or intentional.... let us know how you're doing :hugs:

:iagree: where are you all ladies? :detective: it would be great to hear from you all again :goodvibes:

Gosh I do love my smilies don't I? LOL :p

Oh by the way, hello everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wave:

Sheree xxx

[BubsNo1]

Hey Nicki :wave: You made those nappies yourself!!! :eek: They are just gorgeous! You are one talented lady :yes:

[BubsNo1]

Me again! :p

I've been trying really hard to catch William smiling on camera, this is the best effort so far :D

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/BubsNo1/6weeks.jpg

Sheree xxx
:flowerz:

[k2ma]

Hi everyone - I am spectacularly BORED today. Lucas slept all morning so I was able to clean the house...exhilirating I am sure, but now it is done. I can't say it looks any better or worse, but the paint drips from yesterday's painting and gluing session have gone...joy.

Angel:
LAZY PARENTING!!! That is me! Oh dear. Our TV is always running...kids flit in and out, but Hey ho. I have no idea how I would get through a day otherwise. I always swore I would not do it, but needs must. Don't think I could possibly take all three of them to the park at the moment...perhaps when Lucas is a bit older and can sit up and watch the goings on. But then, I have runners (usually in different directions - and why is it that parks are not FENCED these days!!:hair:).

I am going to have a little whinge now...I find it hard to get out of the house with three and i have nowhere that I want to go. I admit I get a bit lonely sometimes.
I find play centres etc v stressful because DS1 has peanut, milk and egg anaphylaxis, I stress out whenever we go anywhere. Consequently it is hard to just relax while he plays and chat to other mums. I have to take a mountain of food with me for both kids whenever we go out as they instantly turn inot eating machines - and I can't buy many things for them on the go. Shops are a pain cos someone always wants the loo, so getting in and out of the toilets in time with three is hard. I need to go to the Post office but just the enormity of the loading and unloading process for the car is putting me off. Someone is always either asleep or needing food or crying...DH works 14 hour days - he leaves at 5.30 and comes home at 6.30 /7pm most nights...he really is fab, cos he baths the kids and puts them to bed then takes Lucas so that I can get to the dishes and tea. He is great.

I just miss the ability to get things done...:(


Phew I feel better now...that said I always feel triumphant when I DO actually manage a trip to the shops.

[bootiful]

Cordelia - Oh it's never too early for Hot Cross Buns. I could eat em all year long, in fact im baking some tomorrow

k2ma - whinge away hun, that's what we are here for. Maybe pop your head in the large families threads and see how they cope on outings.

Just wondering if any Perth girls are booked into the Mother & Baby Post Natal Exercise Classes @ KEMH?
I'm gonna start going this Wednesday.

I have just done my roster of weekly activities, chores round the house, shopping etc so hopefully i can get more organised than i have been.

[k2ma]

Angel - No, I did not know about them. What does it involve exactly?

I am going to the VBAC MOrning Tea though.m NOt thought through the logistics yet but fingers crossed!

AND thanks for the suggestion. I had not considered myself a 'large' family, but I guess we are. Am off to look in that thread now:hugs:thanks

[Bexta]

Tracy - It's awful when they don't sleep during the day... I've never has a day sleeper so I try to get around it by using our Hug A Bub. Still not the same but beats nothing! :rolleyes:

Angel - Funny how chocolate tastes better when shaped like an Easter egg!!! :laughing: As for me, DH & I just started excercising... hate it though.

Cordelia - Wow... a girls night out!!! Have fun ;).

Nicki - I was going to ask what brand of nappies they were so I could try them... but they're yours!!! Awesome!!! I just bought DS2 a bakers dozen of IttiBitti last week.

Bubsno1 - I love your avatar pic!!! Gorgeous! I haven't been able to get a full smile on film yet.

K2ma - I know it's hard... my DS1 has to be woken up every day to go & pick my DD up from school... the part I hate the most is the getting in & out of the car bizzo :thumbsdown:. But then again some days evrything seems difficult!

Have a great weekend everyone!!!
XO

[k2ma]

ahhhhhh the serenity. DH has gone to a dr appointment and taken the older two with him. I am home with Lucas who has fallen asleep

no one needs food:D
no one is arguing:yelclap:
no one is shouting "MUUUUUUUUUUUUM":o
the only sound is the wind outside and the clackity clack of the keyboard as I write this...bliss:)

When they get back I am going out to see my friend's new baby and i don't have to take any of my children with me! HA - imagine that! :thumbsup: I shall sip tea and eat a biscuit in peace.

Hurrah for the weekend!

[BellyFruit]

:wave: everyone

Have read all the posts lately, just tryin to keep up in here.

Sheree: I also cannot catch Chace with a smile on camera... may have a lot to do with the fact that we've misplaced the camera for the moment though!

Cords: I LOVE easter eggs... and hot cross buns... though they're bloody expensive arent they? How was the Phantom? I really wanted to go but with bubs on the boob, don't like my chances! Next time... same as Dralion, next time sigh...

Nicki: did you make those nappies? why did you put a M on them? Just curious! They are stunning...

Haylie: we're still cruising nicely with our itti bittis, how you going with yours? are you using them yet?

k2ma: wow that's a lot of allergies to stress about. How do you cope with that? I'd be a nervous wreck constantly. I am about to leave the twins with DH (he doesnt know it yet) and go out shopping with my sister.. woo! I hear you with the ongoing MUUUUUUUUUUUUUM issues... I have just rescued DS2 from DS1 who was hovering over him with "Mr Manners" aka the wooden spoon...lol

angel: re getting organised - I try, oh how I try... just doesnt seem to happen... dammit! oooh do you feel like sharing your hot cross bun recipe?

Bexta: how do you find your hug a bub? I find it really annoying to try and put on and cant seem to get it comfy. I feel stupid with the fabric dragging on the ground as I stand in the car park and try and wrap it over my shoulders... any tips? Also though I think Chace hates it :rolleyes:

Tracy: Hows your mum going getting her passport over here? I really hope you get your residency/baby bonus/new house before 1 July 09...

Take care girls, I'm annoyed at DH, so off to shop up a storm :laughing:

TMD x :flowerz:

[bootiful]

Angel - No, I did not know about them. What does it involve exactly?

I am going to the VBAC MOrning Tea though.m NOt thought through the logistics yet but fingers crossed!

AND thanks for the suggestion. I had not considered myself a 'large' family, but I guess we are. Am off to look in that thread now:hugs:thanks

it's the post natal exercise group, wed mornings from 11 till 12.30pm @ KEMH physio...you ring them to book and you go whenever you can between 6wks and 4 months (bubs age). Its a gentle exercise class and baby massage.

The VBAC morning tea, is that the one this friday @ 10. If so im going too..ill see you there !



angel: re getting organised - I try, oh how I try... just doesnt seem to happen... dammit! oooh do you feel like sharing your hot cross bun recipe?

Im making it now, first time, the dough is rising as we speak.

Here is the recipe - http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/19170/hot+cross+buns

ill let you know how they turn out.

[Brumington301]

Hi Girls,

Grabbing 5 mins to post on here before my 1pm lunch followed by O's 2pm feed - I'm constantly watching the clock ATM! Hope everyone is having a great weekend and not being kept too busy.




PS If any of you are reading this who haven't posted in a while, I know that we are missing some people. It's not that we're not thinking of you - it's just i can only focus on what's on the page. It's not malicious or intentional.... let us know how you're doing :hugs:

Well said, my sentiments exactly. It's hard enough to remember everyone and everything said on recent posters let alone people who have gone AWOL for a while. Having said that, I wonder where Fugs and Mumof4 are? BTW - how was your girls night out?

Shell - how are you going over the last few days? Hope all is well. I got to the shops yesterday so will be posting as soon as I get back to the shops (heaven knows when!) Thanks for asking about O's eating. He's doing really well but like Tracy's Jayden I swear he'd just keep eating given half the chance. I'm going to ask the nurse about it on Monday.

Bexta - love your little fellas trousers - how cute!

3A - we did miss you and I can understand how difficult it can be to get on here and post.

Nicki - you clever Duck! How on earth did you make those nappies? Do you make any to sell?

K2MA - I know where you're coming from re the expedition in the car and I only have 1 to worry about! I can imagine the stress as well in regards to the food allergies - horrible :no:

Bubsno1 - cute piccie of William. I really have to get some up of Oakleigh (perhaps a job for tomorrow?)

Angel - slow down woman! You need to sit down at put your feet up!

TMD - successful shopping done? :laughing:

Hot cross buns - :barf:

AFM - tired but loving it! Have nurse appt on Monday (hopefully O has put on weight - he should have done the gutty munchkin!). I'm having a Skype session with my neices tonight which I'm looking forward to. I hope O behaves for his first time on camera.... Hmmmm?

We are off to a wedding in Sydney next weekend and I'm already dreading the trip. I've also come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as proper clothes for boys in a 0000 size so we had to go to 000 for O's outfit - he'll be swimming in it bless him! Me? I'd be happy in PJ's but I suppose I better make an effort! :laughing:

Have a great weekend X :wave:

[tracynben]

hi everyone hope all ok.

BRUM - Try not to stress too much about clock watching, try and be flexible and relax. I found when i was tryin to do things by the clock i got too stressed and obssessed, miserable, and so was everyone else, so now i try and go with the flow.

ANGEL - wish i could come to those classes, but its quite far for me to travel, plus i have no one for ben on weds so wouldnt be able to go anyway.
Im gonna start exercisin next week after my doctors check up on monday, need to sort this flabby belly out lol.

TDM - my mum sent her passport yesterday by post, but its gonna take about a week by plane arghhhh, they said though as soon as they get it they will print it and send it next day, so hopefully 2 weeks max and we can send our application off.

K2MA - enjoy ur peace while it lasts, sound bliss.

AND i think it was cordelia asking about milk feeds, i cant remember if i posted this yesterday or not, my mind gone blank.
She said just to feed him however much he needs, and hes def not overweight, his weight is 5.3kg and 58cm length, hes on 75th for height and about 65th for weight so everything all good.

AFM - i had a shocking day with the kids yesterday, jayden literally had 1 hour sleep from 6.30am - 8pm had a feed then i had to hold him and keep him in bed with me so he would sleep, luckily he dint wake till 4.30am.
Ben keeps playin up for bedtime, takin 2 hours to go sleep and wakin early, its really effectin him now, and with jayden bein unsettled a lot, its effectin ben with me ignorin him all the time, he doesnt like it and keeps tryin to grab me all the time, sayin come on mummy. I feel so bad that i dont hardly spend any time with him, everytime i try jayden plays up.
Hes hardly slept today up to now either, we put him down after a good feedin and burpin and he just wont go to sleep, arghhhhh, but he would fall alseep in the car straight away.

tracy xxxxxx

[BubsNo1]

Hello everyone,

We had our 6 week checkup this morning. Got my prescription for the pill, so just have to be careful for the next couple of weeks for it to take effect (if we ever DTD that is :p).
The doctor checked over William and she seemed happy with his progress. Just his hips that have to be looked at again in the coming weeks, but hopefully they are OK.
He now weighs 5.5 kilos! :eek:

Tracy - sorry the boys are giving you grief, hang in there!! xx

Brum - nice to hear from you again! Looking forward to seeing piccies of Oakleigh, they grow so fast don't they! Enjoy your trip to Sydney, hopefully it goes well for you. xx

:wave: to Angel, Bexta, TMD, K2ma and everyone else I missed.

How are you going Kirsten? Are you over your cold yet?

Cheerio to Fugs, 3A, MIW, M2M, Cords - hope you are all travelling along nicely.

:hugs: to those that need them and :goodvibes: to all of our January mummies, keep up the fantastic work!

Bye for now,
Sheree xxx
:flowerz:

[Nickimumto1]

Hello to all,

We have been looking at houses all morning, some are Ok but nothing that jumps out at me. Have somemore to look at tomorrow.

Thanks for the comments on the nappies, TMD the M is on them so that DH knows which ones are for which child, all though Meaghan only wears a nappy at night now. But i bought them when she was in nappies.

I do not sell them as the pattern is not mine, it is a combination of Ittibitti's and other nappies i have seen.

It only took me 2 nights and one trip to MIL to use the overlocker to finish them and i think the materials only cost about $80 for the 6 but i still have some left over to make the next size. Hope he wear these one for longer.

Liam has also grown out of his 000 jump suits as he is too long, put him in 00 today and it was not that big, had to laugh that my SIL's 9month old is still in 00 and only drinks 150ml of formula :laughing:. I think he is going to be a big boy..

Hope everyone has a good weekend.

:wave:

[k2ma]

Yes Angel - it is the friday @10am Morning Tea, so I really hope to get there.
I may look into those exercise classes too. Just to have a reason to get out of the house!

Tracy - I remember what you are describing from when DS2 arrived. DS1 was only 16 months and it was hard, I feel guilty now that I don't play with the boys, but they have each other I suppose. I try to do ONE thing with them eg gluing, painting, cutting but some days it is just not possible. Frustrating.

My day of peace and quiet turned into just the morning! I wanted to go to the shops but after visiting my friend and her new baby I decided it was too hot and a bit pointless to go to look at clothes I can't have!! So I have stayed home. However, DH is in charge so I am only doing Lucas, which is blissfully simple!

[Shell31]

Hi Girls,

Here are some photos I uploaded tonight.

Some pics of Daisy yesterday!

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/Shell31/IMGP3294.jpg

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/Shell31/IMGP3287.jpg

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/Shell31/IMGP3289.jpg

My newly stained back deck.... See Cordelia.. I really did do it :p

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/Shell31/IMGP3277.jpg

And dinner lmao.. I emailed the pic to Aaron at work saying Look what your missing out on.. ( i sent him with frozen lasagna ) Amazing what you can whiz up when the kids behave.. Was beautiful too I might add. Curried chicken :D

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/Shell31/IMGP3298.jpg


Both little ones are still up & i'm on my own with them so will sit down abit later & read up on how everyone is going..

Rachelle x

[1stTimeMum09]

Hi girls..

The flu/cold is slowly going away thank god..I had it for over 2 weeks nearly 3 I must be really run down plus with the lack of sleep..Thanks for asking BubsNo1..

My night with Ryley last night:

Woke at 9 bed at 10
Woke up screaming for food at 1:15 back in bed by 2
Then up at 5 then just slept on and off until 7:15 and wanted a bottle. He been awake since then. He finally went to sleep at 2 and had a 3 and a half hour sleep..And so did I..

Sorry no time for personals about to give Ryley a bath so back tomorrow...

take care girls
Kirsten

[Cordelia]

Ok before I forget here are some photos I uploaded on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=95678&id=819459250&l=d31d5

Love all the photos coming on! - very good job Shell!!! (either that or you've scanned a photo from the better homes and gardens magazine!)

k2ma - bliss!! hope you enjoyed your day :)

TMD - mm i love easter. I have to admit that the hot cross buns didnt make it to sunday breakfast!!! woooops

brum - ooo a wedding! babies look cute no matter what they're in!!! Daniel just fits into the 0-3month stuff from pumpkin patch (as in it's too big). There are so much more girl stuff than boy stuff at shops - not fair!

tracy - hoep you had a better time. I know what you mean about feeling bad about not spending time with the older one. I feel the same way but keep telling myself it's only temporary and take every opportunity to do a special activity with DD.

bubsno1 - william is doing great! well done.

1sttimemum - yikes your flu is hanging around - its hard when you're sleep deprived to heal do you think? hope ryley is a bit kinder on you tonight.

Us - going nuts around the house and making a start on the garden now. I just feel like I let everything go when I was pregnant - had no energy.

I went to phantom last night. got home and DH let me sleep in til 9 woohoo!! Have to say though... I was gone from 5:30pm and woke at 9am... usually daniel would have a feed at 7:30pm, 3:30am and around 7:00am by then - but DH had given him 7 feeds!!!!!!!!!!!hmmm.... he's not always hungry if he's crying!!! oh well - just thankful of a night out and it's not a big deal if he drinks so much milk for one night - it won't kill him!!!

[Shell31]

Morning Ladies,

What a lovely Sunday morning it is... Oh hang on.. is it Sunday??? :laughing: YAY my girls come home today.. Has been a long week without them. I've been really lonely as Aaron's been on nights & afternoons. He has afternoon again today but atleast Jamie & Brookie will be home to talk to lol..Cooked some ham & eggs for Aaron for breaky & pancakes for me.. Theo only wanted rice bubbles :rolleyes: He & Aaron are up at Bunnings again.. lmao I swear one of us goes up there every day. He is getting me some paint. He's made a fake rock wall for the back of his new lizard enclosure with expanda foam on some wood and I'm going to paint it!!! It will add some texture & color. Can't wait. I love getting my hands dirty so to speak. Also got a shade sail yesterday that we are going to put up at the end of the deck/pergola. We'll tackle that tomorrow or Tuesday.

Just want to say hello to you all. I've been reading & looking at all your photos. I can't believe how big our babies are all growing and those nappies you made are magic Nicky. Well done..

Cordelia - Glad you had fun at the Phantom. I had a giggle about DH cramming the feeds in. Atleast you got a sleep in.. Those photo's are wonderful. Thanks for sharing. Your daughter is gorgeous & Daniel is a little treasure. I love the one of him in the pram with his big eyes all bright & full of wisdom already. lol @ me posting a pic from Better homes & gardens. Don't make me post a picture of the big Jarrah colored stain spot on my tummy that soaked through my shorts!!! I told Aaron I walked into the bedhead & tried to get sympathy but burst out laughing before I'd even finished.:laughing:

Kirsten - :hugs: Hope you get some rest today. I'm going on a vitamin / breastmilk boosting spree today. Doing whatever I can to look after myself & hopefully that will make my evenings alot easier to cope with solo. I just don't have the energy of a night anymore for anything.

Nicky - Uggh house hunting is hard. I assume your buying? Thing is you want something you love cause you know your going to be there for a long time. It's also got to have potential for any improvements you might want to make one day.. fingers crossed hun the perfect house is out there for you & will come at the perfect time for your little family.

K2MA - Lucky you got some time out. I also can't be bothered looking around at the shops anymore. Have no money or interest even in buying clothes for myself. I just want to do stuff to the house lol... I have trouble managing all the kids at once when I go out but Jamie is a huge help when she is here. She can get Theo in & out of the car & he loves her so always wants snuggles with her too.. Bless her..

Sheree - 5.5kilos... crikey.. Hes certainly thriving hey.. I can't wait to have Daisy weighed on Tues although not looking forward to the needle part. Atleast Aaron's off work & can help with the others if she is unsettled that night.. William is adorable. He's like this little old soul in a teeny body.. I bet when you do catch it his smile is beautiful. Daisy's is all crooked or a huge big open mouthed one.. She's very cute though crooked smile or not!!!

Tracy - Gosh your having a rough time of it lately.. It is so hard with a toddler aswell isnt it. Theo mucks up when he knows I'm busy with Daisy. Guess its natural attention seaking behaviour & mostly I can side track him but some days I just cant be bothered even trying & I just let him go... Bad habit to get into I know but its not for forever & we'll work it out in the end i'm sure. I feel bad I dont have the time I used to to spend on Theo & the girls. Brookie struggles with me always being busy too. I just keep telling her & myself lol It won't be like this forever...

Brum - All good here.. Im struggling of a night thinking I dont have enough milk but have to keep telling myself that I do or else Daisy would be screaming non stop & not have any wet nappies. Its a constand guessing game this b/fing but I do love it so will hang in there.. Glad to hear O is doing well. lol @ him being a little guts... You'll have to take some photo's at the wedding. I want to see him in his little outfit. Everyone will fuss over him. We have a concert in Sydney early May & I'm planning on staying for a week or so to spend time with my big sis & her kids. Should be fun...

Uh oh. Daisy is awake now.. Sorry ladies thats it for personals for me.. Love to all. Hope you have a wonderful day.

Angel just quickly - The supplies we got from Bunnings were potting mix, seedlings, paint, expanda foam, pots, shade sail lol the list continues. Like I said.. up there everyday almost.. Its just around the corner.. WOO HOO..


Rachelle x

[muminwaiting]

Morning ladies,

Just a quick one from me as I have relatives here for the weekend.....I will be back on tomorrow to catch up when they have gone home..:D

M2M..Is Layla still in 0000 I have started to sort out Holly's stuff and I have a really sweet little denim dress that she never got to wear, it is brand new but I have taken the tags off...I think it is a big 0000.

Heres a pic.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/muminwaiting/P2270416.jpg

If you would like it please PM me your address and I will be happy to mail it to you.

I will also PM you in case you miss this post.

I couldn't remember if anyone elses bub sizes if M2M doesn't want it, I would be happy to mail it to anyone.

Have a great Sunday everyone.

[BubsNo1]

Good morning beautiful January mummies :wave:


Iusually daniel would have a feed at 7:30pm, 3:30am and around 7:00am by then - but DH had given him 7 feeds!!!!!!!!!!!hmmm.... he's not always hungry if he's crying!!! oh well - just thankful of a night out and it's not a big deal if he drinks so much milk for one night - it won't kill him!!!

LOL Cords, sometimes they really have no idea do they!! (our DH's that is) :rolleyes: - thanks for the piccies of Daniel! LOL at the one in the pram "I'm pretty cute", that he is :p


William is adorable. He's like this little old soul in a teeny body.. I bet when you do catch it his smile is beautiful. Daisy's is all crooked or a huge big open mouthed one.. She's very cute though crooked smile or not!!!

Shell, your posts always make me smile :hugs:- Daisy is just beautiful by the way, she looks like a very content baby :yes:

AFM: William slept from 9:30pm last night to 5am this morning. After his bottle I coaxed him into falling back asleep on the lounge with me. We had a sleep until 8:30am!! Mind you my neck & back weren't feeling the best when I woke up, but at least HE was comfortable, LOL

Enjoy your day ladies!! :sunshine:

Sheree xxx

[1stTimeMum09]

Hi girls..

Shell31-hope you have a good day..And take care of yourself as well..

Cordelia-yes I think it is because I am so tired..Sounds like a good night..

Thanks everyone..

:wave: to everyone I missed..

Well had a better night..He had a feed at 8:30pm and bed at 9 and he woke up at 2am..So 5 hours! Not bad for him..Then it was 5 and then up for the day at 8.. He has gone to sleep now..

[Brumington301]

Just a real quickie from me cause if I don't do this I will never get around to posting some photos.

I put these on FB today - most have been taken in the last couple of weeks.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album.php?aid=94073&id=602617952

Enjoy , and I'll be back on later for personals hopefully.

Lots of love X

[honeydew]

MIW- I will PM you now :D Love the dress, its gorgeous! Layla is still 00000/0000 :o Thanks so much :hugs:

Brum- I couldn't view your pics so I've added you as a friend on facebook.

Didi- I'm being soooo slack with the nappies :o We had an incident where I left them in the bucket dirty for a week and they got mould spots on them. How bad is that?! But I managed to get most of them out but now am too slack to use them cause that means I will need to wash them lol. I really should at least use what I've got, and I've also got 5 small brand new peapods to use as well.

Shell- your back deck looks great! I would love something like that. And the photo of your dinner made me drool (must admit I had a little giggle at you posting a pic of your dinner haha!). I can only dream of finding the time to cook anything fancy at the moment. All I can say is thank god for slowcookers! Daisy is gorgeous as usual! I think it was you who asked a few pages back about our house- it is about 15 mins from where we are living at the moment. Its the next town across and is closer to the main town in this area. So easier access to the shops :D

Hi everyone else, sorry I can't remember much although I have read everything over the past couple of days.

We are still plodding along. Layla is pretty much refusing to BF once the initial fast flow of milk stops, therefore not getting much hindmilk. I have pretty much given up and am topping her up with formula after every feed again. Sigh. I think I am almost ready to admit defeat. One thing that I have learnt from having Layla is to not put so much pressure on myself. I was going to do everything 'right' this time- no dummy, BF for at least 12 months, never use disposables etc etc. and all of that has flown out the window and I realise it's really no big deal as long as we are both happy. When the next baby is born I think I'll be more relaxed because I'll have an open mind and won't beat myself up when things don't go to plan.

[Nickimumto1]

Hello,

Hope everyone weekend is going well. I am going to have a bit of a rant.. Arr i hate looking at houses ...We looked at 3 houses today and found a nice house, walked around 3 bedrooms, 2 barthrooms, small backyard but all fenced and paved, nice, could see us living there. Went to talk with the estate agent, who told us that the vendors have just refused an offer of $375,000 which is the top of our budget, the property was advertised at 350K - 380k. How much do they want? why don't they just put an asking price, so that i don't look at and fall in love with houses that i can't aford. I am just about ready to keep renting and they can all get stuffed. I refuse to pay more than the property is worth.

Now that is off my chest, we are going to the Zoo tomorrow, it's a public holiday in Melbourne. I love family outings, makes me feel that all the sleepless nights, dirty nappies, and requests for mum to do it seem worth it.

Bye for now..

[MummaFug]

:wave: Everyone ....

I have been so busy lately that I just havent had time to post .. I have been reading and following but everytime I start to post - something happens and I dont get to finish ...

BUT everyone is asleep so I have a few moments to myself :)

I LOVE seeing all the updated photos of the babies.... Daisy is gorgeous, William is so handsome, Brum & Cords - I couldnt see yours on facebook :no:

I will add one of DD when I get a chance.

As for my week - this is how it goes.....

Mon - NOTHING :) We usually go to a park down the street and play.
Tues - DS has school til 12, DD and I shop
Afternoon - Playgroup
Wed - Music / afternoon we go to a park and play with other kiddies
Thurs - Playgroup in the morn...Afternoon - Baby group (I have 4 friends with 2 yr olds and babies)
Fri - DS has school til 12, DD and I shop

I feel like I dont stop somedays but as I live in an apartment we need to get out :)

I went out with some friends last night and DH stayed home with the kiddies - it was SO nice to get out and just relax a little. Even had a few glasses of champers as I'd expresses enough milk for the day today .... It felt GOOD

Hope everyone is OK and having a great weekend !!

Sorry for the no personals but I havent replied for so long that I dont know where to start .. I will not leave it so long again :)

BYE !!!

[tracynben]

just a quick post, no time for personals, as i really gotta try and get a bit more organised and get the kids a bit more organised, no structure at all at the mo, but hard cos jayden has 1-2 times a day where its pretty hard to get him to sleep, so this is throwin the whole day out, and its happenin everyday which is a pain.

Got 6 week check up today at the doctors, so be able to start exercising again.

tracy xxxx

[Cordelia]

FFFUUUGGGGLLLLYYYYY! (great to hear from you)

shell - maybe you should take out shares in bunnings

MIW - that dress is gorgeous... are your reltives still there?

brum - I had alreadt sneaked a look at your facebook photos - very very cute :)

mummytomason - I think you;re right - you can do your best to do the "right" thing but at the end of the day if it;s making everyone happy then it's doing more harm than good. Hope you can find a nice balance with it all

nickimum - bugger about the house - frustrating! I hope the zoo is good - i'm going next week. looking forward to it! hehe

Us - tried dreamfeed last night to get daniel thru the early hours of the morning - fsiled miserably!! he was good for 5 minutes and then he was like "hey mum party time!!" not sure if i try again tonight or stick to the 8 - 2:30 sleep he does. He was happy so I ended up going to bed until 5 when he wanted his next feed so I guess thats not bad

okj better go get ready for playgroup!

[bootiful]

Went to talk with the estate agent, who told us that the vendors have just refused an offer of $375,000 which is the top of our budget, the property was advertised at 350K - 380k. How much do they want?

Its a trick, I used to work in real estate. Put in your offer for $350. They have to put it to the vendor.

Most real estate agents want top commission, so they will tell prospective buyers that the vendor won't accept and offer just so you up it.

If the vendor doesn't accept it then up it $5,000 at a time....don't let them fool you..or tell you their are other higher offers etc...its all tricks to get top dollar!

[Shell31]

Hi Girls,

Had a rough night with Daisy last night & ended up topping her up with some formula at about 9pm. She guzzled & guzzled sucking so strong, all the while looking up at me with those almost desperate eyes.. (Im not exaggerating) I ended up taking it off her after 60mils when she slowed down because I was so upset & don't want to cause problems with my milk supply. I honestly didnt have any milk left & she had been chomping away on me for hours. There's just no time for your supply to build back up when they feed constantly like that. Anyways, by the time Aaron came home from work at 10 she was asleep & I was a sobbing mess feeling like a complete failure :no: She ended up sleeping until 4am. I had a shower about 11 and of course when I hand expressed I got a heap spurt out so the supply is there when she gives me time to build it back up.

Todays been better. I've got myself some Fenugreek tablets & started taking them tonight. I've baked a batch of lactation cookies so fingers crossed for me. Aaron is home tonight and I can't explain how having him home changes the whole dynamics of our house. He cooked dinner & helped with Theo when Daisy was crying & I was stuck on the lounge for ages feeding. Theo's been a bugger at bed time & keeps crying out for me or daddy so trying to deal with that last night on my own with an upset Daisy wasnt fun either. I really don't like him away in the evenings. I have HUGE respect for single mothers (Ive been one for a time) but doing it with 4 when two of them are mucking up is terribly hard. :no:

Anyway, Sorry for raving on. Just felt like a complete failure last night & questioned my body & ability to provide for my baby girl.

Hope you guys are all well & that your little ones & families are smiling.

Rachelle x

[tracynben]

hi everyone

SHELL - sorry u had a rough night and dont feel bad about topping up with a bit of formula, rememeber the main thing is for u both to be happy.
Glad u had a better day today thou.

ANGLEBABY - ooooo thats good advice about the house buyin stuff, we will be lookin soon, so if i need any advice i know where to come lol.
Just out of interest cos we plannin on building, with the market the way it is at the mo, do u think u would be able to offer less for plots of land or are u best just payin what they want?

CORDELIA - i too had problems with the dreamfeed but other way round, he stayed asleep but didnt take a lot, so now he has one feed about 7/8 and wakes about 2/3.

AFM - well i just had another shocking day, i just dont know what im doin wrong, i feel like sellin them both on ebay lol.
Jayden been really unsettled most of the day, im just havin so many probelms settlin him to sleep, so hes hardly sleepin all day.
Then when im tryin to do ben sleep times, it all goes pear shaped, hes still hyper and wont sleep.
Today he totally wrecked his room again, somehow found a pen ( dunno from where) and scribbled on the walls again.
I was sooooo angry i lost control and smacked him, then shouted at him, he knew he had crossed the line, and said sorry afterwards.
I felt really bad after for smacking him.
BUT i cant go on with the way things are, everyone is unhappy, im resentin my kids cos im so emotionally and physically tired with it all.
I really hope that either jayden is going through a growth spurt or its his teeth, yes hes got bumps in his gums already in 4 places, so i think teeth will be appearin soon, i dunno if they are botherin him and thats why hes playin up.
our 6 week check up was fine, and he weed on the doctor lol.

tracy xxxxx

[honeydew]

Hi Girls,

Had a rough night with Daisy last night & ended up topping her up with some formula at about 9pm. She guzzled & guzzled sucking so strong, all the while looking up at me with those almost desperate eyes.. (Im not exaggerating) I ended up taking it off her after 60mils when she slowed down because I was so upset & don't want to cause problems with my milk supply. I honestly didnt have any milk left & she had been chomping away on me for hours. There's just no time for your supply to build back up when they feed constantly like that. Anyways, by the time Aaron came home from work at 10 she was asleep & I was a sobbing mess feeling like a complete failure :no: She ended up sleeping until 4am. I had a shower about 11 and of course when I hand expressed I got a heap spurt out so the supply is there when she gives me time to build it back up.


Oh Shell, I was nearly in tears reading this.. you are NOT a failure :hugs: I know exactly what you mean about the 'desperate eyes', they just break your heart. Daisy has been doing so well on breastmilk, putting on lots of weight and seems to be a happy little girl so I certainly don't think you are failing her in any way :no: The fenugreek should help heaps, they say it takes 40 hours to see an improvement. I think you are super mum to be dealing with four kiddies while your DH works a night shift- I barely cope with my TWO when my DH does nights!

We had Layla's needles today, poor little bubba screamed the place down. She is really unsettled tonight but I have given her some panadol. According to the Dr's scales she has put on 800g in 12 days :eek: But if I go by our scales she has put on 500g which seems more likey. I have pretty much decided to keep bottle feeding her and will keep doing a couple of BF's a day for as long as I have milk. She is a different baby after a bottle- so happy and smiley and interactive. I have tried everything I possibly can to boost my supply, I even rang the ABA for advice and they also agreed there is nothing else I can do that I haven't already. I thought the nipple shield was the reason for the low supply (ABA disagreed) and I managed to wean her off that but still no change. I feel at peace with my decision because I know I tried my hardest this time.

Sorry for no other personals, am off to watch Desperate Housewives.

[honeydew]

p.s we are now mixing infant gaviscon into Layla's bottles because she vomits most of the milk back up over the course of a couple of hours. We go through about 3 bibs each feed, and numerous bibs in between feeds. Does anyone else use the gavison and do you think it makes a difference? Maybe I should look at changing her formula? She is on Karicare Gold Plus.

[Nickimumto1]

Hell to all,

I has been quiet around here.

We went to the zoo today, and so did everyone else. Did not think that it would be busy. Meaghan enjoyed seeing the animals, but got bored as she could not see.


Angelbaby - Thanks for the advice with buying a house, we will put an offer in but we have already missed out on 2 houses that we put offers in on. One was advertised at 330K - 380k and we offered 360K, it sold for 381K. The other we offered 370k and it was advertised at 340 - 390 sold for 411K. Things are still moving quickly in Melbourne. But i guess you have to be in it to win it.

Traceynben - Have you spoken with the MCH nurse about settling Jayden. Can you go to a day stay unit that can help you. I know in Melbourne they have day stay sleep school's.

Shell - sorry to hear about Daisy's feeding, i can't imagin what it is like to not have help at night with the kids. We count the minutes till Daddy comes home in this house. Hope it gets better for you. :hugs:

Cordelia - We did the dreamfeed thing, but in the end made no difference, just another bottle to wash and more formula that got tossed down the sink. Has anyone has any luck with the dreamfeed thing.

Fugly - Your week sounds busy. Your DS goes to School? is it like kinder? Do they speak chinese to you DS when he is at school? Sorry for all the questions just find it interesting what happens in different cultures.

M2M - Sorry to hear that Layla is not breastfeeding well. Stoping breastfeeding this time round, was one of the hardest decisions i made, and i still question what if i had tried... as the lactation consultant said to me, sometimes it is not ment to be. I had convinced myself that i failed last time because i had a C-section and that my DD was born at 37 weeks, and was too small to suck correctly. But i had the same supply problems this time round. Liam is now full time on formula and is a much happier baby, he was soo unsettled when i was just breastfeeding him. I still get jelous when i see other mums breastfeeding, but my baby is happy and content and that is all that should matter but i still wish i could breastfeed. Hope that you work it out.

Brum - Could not see your photo's, as do not have facebook.

See ya it getting late, have a 9am Pead's appoint to get 2 kids to.

[MummaFug]

Shell - I did see your post last night and I just wanted to give you a HUGE HUGE :hugs: :hugs:

YOU ARE NOT, HEAR ME, NOT A BAD MOTHER..

Just coz you give Daisy what she wants - It is NOT through any choice of your own that you havent enough milk. You are doing everything you can to make sure Daisy is happy, healthy and content .... That is what a Mother is

PLease dont beat yourself up over 1 bottle ....

You have 4 kiddies !!!! The fact that you are even attempting to BF is amazing - I find it hard to get the time and I only have one other ....

YOU ARE A FABULOUS MUMMY :flowerz:

Nickimumto1 - Yeah - DS goes to "school" 2 days a week.We live in an apartment and there is not much we can do (ie libraries, shops etc) so he really needs it for socializing. They dont really do much - its a bit like Daycare in Aus. It is a bilingual school which is great as i'd like DS to learn a little Mandarin if he can (I know NONE). He loves it and I get to go for Coffee with the other Mums sometimes - so works for us all :)

:wave: everyone else - I really just wanted to message Shell and will come back and do personals later .... Both kids are in bed, Dh has gone out with his buddies (think he is getting a tattoo) so I am getting my book and some chocolate and going to have a bath :bee:

[bootiful]

ANGLEBABY - ooooo thats good advice about the house buyin stuff, we will be lookin soon, so if i need any advice i know where to come lol.
Just out of interest cos we plannin on building, with the market the way it is at the mo, do u think u would be able to offer less for plots of land or are u best just payin what they want?

:no: never just settle for what they are asking for first up.

when you put in an offer the must put it to the vendor, then they will come back to you to raise your offer if need be. If a house is asking $350 and you put in $330 they knock it back offer $335, then $340 etc.

If it sold for $380 and your limit was $360 then you really can't do anything, it was out of your budget. Unfortunately buying a house is hard, and not fun at times, but just look at it this way, the right house will come by, and you will get it, if you don't, it wasn't meant to be :yes:

[bootiful]

i also wanted to say.... and please please please take this seriously

UNLESS YOU BEAT YOUR KIDS, STARVE THEM TO DEATH, HANG THEM BY THEIR HAIR AND SWING THEM AROUND THE ROOM.....

YOU ARE NOT A BAD MOTHER !!!!!!!! :shame:

Please don't beat yourself up about what choices you make for your child. If you have made a conscious decision to do or not do something stick to it and agree that you made the choice.

This thread is getting quite depressing, we are suppose to be the happiest people in the world ladies, we have gorgeous scrummy yummy cutie pie newborns, they should be filling our hearts with joy and happiness...not making us miserable and 2nd guessing every decision we make or every thought we have.

:hugs: cheer up pretty pretty please with a cherry on top:babydust2:

PS - I feel extremely bad coming on here posting that my baby has slept 8 hours, is breastfed, cloth bummed and im feeling on top of the world when i read that you are all feeling terrible or are sleep deprived etc.

[justmum]

You should feel bad coming on here and posting about your baby sleeping 8 hours. You suck :p


:laughing:


I am lucky to get 45 minute stretches at night :laughing: Meh - this too will pass, this too will pass, this too will pass (why don't we have a rocking in the corner smilie??)

And on a more serious note I agree with Angel - we are all doing the best we can. There are no bad mums here :hugs:

[bootiful]

You should feel bad coming on here and posting about your baby sleeping 8 hours. You suck :p


:laughing:


I am lucky to get 45 minute stretches at night :laughing: Meh - this too will pass, this too will pass, this too will pass (why don't we have a rocking in the corner smilie??)

meh, i suck :laughing: i've been called worse :rolleyes:

that little smiley your referring too...is he wrapped up in a white straight jacket by any chance?

[Cordelia]

Shell - I know how you're feeling exactly. you feel ill in the pit of your stomach - but it's completely illogical. You are doing the absolute best for your daughter. everything you do is for her benefit and is out of your love for her as a mother. She doesn't hvae a journal that she writes in every evening - "8 March - Mum gives me formula. It's all downhill from now." :hugs:

tracy - I giggled at the "weed on the doctor". Daniel weed all over our child health nurse when she was here. and all over her scales. and sprayed her glasses. and then when she thought she had cleared herself up and she sat back down on her chair not knowing that that was soaking wet too!! AHAH... didn't like her anyway hehe. (and yes that prevented us from telling her about her soaking wet skirt when she walked out the door to her next appointment).

mummytomason - that's great to feel at peace - you're right. you have tried every avenue and you know in your heart that you gave it your best shot. Good on you - you should be proud of your achievement. ** also we found Daniel a lot more settled when he wasn't on "gold". gold has more iron in it which can give them tummy aches. It might be worth trying something less strong. My paediatrician suggested Nan Gold... (we have had a lot of success with the plain old heinz) dont know anything about gaviscon sorry!

nicki - frustraing with your houses. The most you can do is put in your best offers and if it's too much then it's not meant to be. the ranges are really annoying - we didn't get them. ours was for sale a few years ago at 350-370k and we put in an offer for 358 having no idea... it was accepted immediately and we often wonder if we could have put an offer in a lot less and crept up if need be. Oh well - we got the house we wanted in the end.

fugs - thanks. even tho your post was directed at Shell I still found it very encouraging to me :)

angel - you should be feelin gon top of the world!!! that is awesome - well done :) keep it up!

Me - I was choked up with pride today with Daniel on the mat with the other babies today at playgroup. He was smiling and having a great time and no one could believe how big he got!! He has put on 1kg in 2 weeks - YIKES!!!!

[justmum]

:laughing: that'd just about describe it

Thing I'm finding is even when Olive goes down for a long stretch I am waiting for her to wake up so I don't sleep anyway.

Ah well, that's what coffee is for.

[bootiful]

Me - I was choked up with pride today with Daniel on the mat with the other babies today at playgroup. He was smiling and having a great time and no one could believe how big he got!! He has put on 1kg in 2 weeks - YIKES!!!!

:yelclap: yay! go Daniel!


:laughing: that'd just about describe it

Thing I'm finding is even when Olive goes down for a long stretch I am waiting for her to wake up so I don't sleep anyway.

Ah well, that's what coffee is for.

I used to be like that too...laying down with one eye open and listening for the cry...drove me nuts!

[Shell31]

lol @ this place being depressing. Awwww It's not all that bad is it!! Like Aaron pointed out to me when I was upset the other night... "Rachelle, you are a huge support to so many people in your life, Why don't you listen to your own advice (or his) and not be so hard on yourself" :rolleyes:
I have always been hard on myself but if a friend was going through the same thing I'd be a bundle of support & strength... Guess I need to work on that *Beats head on desk* :p

K so I had a GREAT day with Daisy yesterday, typical that should happen after a shocker lol. She last fed at 8pm & I gave her a dreamfeed before hitting the sack myself at 11pm & she slept until 6am :smiliedance: Feeling like a new women today.. Although she does have her needles today !!

Thank you all so much for your support. I feel abit dumb now for even getting that upset but hey the joys of motherhood, sleep deprivation & all that jazz. lol @ Daisy having a diary Cordelia. That made me laugh. Thank you.

Fugly, Haylie, Cordelia Awww ALL OF YOU.. cmere & give me a big old hugger :hugs: *pinches your bums*

Will be back later for some more bum pinching !!!

Rachelle x

[muminwaiting]

p.s we are now mixing infant gaviscon into Layla's bottles because she vomits most of the milk back up over the course of a couple of hours. We go through about 3 bibs each feed, and numerous bibs in between feeds. Does anyone else use the gavison and do you think it makes a difference? Maybe I should look at changing her formula? She is on Karicare Gold Plus.

Holly had this problem as well but we were on Mylanta, Karicare do a food thickener that you can add to the milk to just make it a little thicker and easier for her to keep down, I also found sitting her upright for about 20-30min after a feed helped. Be careful with the thickener though it can make them constipated. I also tried a heap of different brands of bottles and I found the Wideneck Pigeon Peristaltic Nipple bottle to be the best,I found them at Terry White Chemists & Big W, the milk flow is slow so they can not gulp it down which adds to the vomitting. If you can not find them and would like to try them PM me your address and I would be happy to mail one to you. I can not speak highly enough of them.

[muminwaiting]

Morning Ladies,

Relatives finally left last night..yipeeeee!!!!!! (sorry that is mean):o..

:iagree: We are all fantastic mums.

although I do feel a little stupid on here sometimes when I read peoples posts I have no idea what a dreamfeed is or any other routines that have been spoken about..:o But Holly does sleep 6-8hrs a night so I must be doing something right.:p

We have had another rough week in our household, Holly had the gastro again and now has a cold & cough, I have no idea where she gets catches things from we hardly go anywhere and both Dh and I haven't been sick.

We have a Paed appointment this morning and then another ultrasound on Friday and hopefully :fingerscrossed: the harness will come off...I will be so happy to see it gone...

I need to go take a shower and get Holly ready.

Have a great day everyone....

[Brumington301]

I've just logged on this morning and read the posts for the last day and got very upset that we are all having a rough time. So I have a few things to say on this matter and when I feel like sh1t next week I'll have to come back on and read this post :laughing:!

Firstly, we are all fantastic mums. If we weren't, we wouldn't be on here asking for advice, we wouldn't be worrying ourselves sick and we wouldn't be waking up at all the hours God sends to give the care and attention our babies require.

Secondly, all of our babies are individuals. Some cry lots, some sleep lots, some puke lots, some poo lots, (you get where I'm coming from?). We should never compare ourselves to A, B or C and think 'Well, their baby sleeps through the night and mine doesn't so what am I doing wrong?' Our baby might not want to sleep through the night. That's them and we love them for who they are. Sure, we can be jealous :laughing:!!!

Thirdly, we should never beat ourselves up for decisions we have made but be proud that we have the ability to make those decisions based on what we know is best for our baby. If that be the decision to BF or formula feed, cloth bum or disposable, etc, etc... then those decisions are made to benefit us and our babies - not other people and their babies.

And finally, we are all fantastic mums!

After my preach it leads me on to personals...

Shell, I'm so glad you're feeling better and sorry I didn't see your post until this morning. NEVER, beat yourself up over giving Daisy the formula feed. I know what you mean in that you worry about it affecting your milk but you must put things into perspective, it was just one bottle out of how many successful feeds? Beat yourself up if you decided to starve her instead!!!

AB - don't feel guilty about being a successful BF'er or cloth bum mum. I think it's fantastic that you have success at both and I take my hat off to you. I am also very jealous of your abilities (I must read the top of my post again!). It gives me hope that some mums can do this and one day that might be me!

Tracy - it sounds like your frazzled my love. :hugs: Is it possible for DH to take control over night one night and look after the boys while you get some much needed rest? I know it will probably be hard to let go and relax but it might be worth a shot. I would definately consider going to one of those day/night centres as well where they help you with sleep stuff. I will definately do it if things get too tough for me cause I am a monster on sleep deprivation!

JM - LOL at your little rocking man! I love your style.

MIW - bless little Holly having gastro. I hope she gets better soon.

M2M - fair play to you my girl. You are 100 % right. You tried every avenue and you are now satisified with that. Well done to you. It sounds like you are as bloody minded as me when it came to BF'ing so I might need the same encouraging words in a few weeks time!

Fugs - thank you as well for your encouraging post.

Cords - :D well done to you. You must have been soooo proud of little Daniel!

Hello to anyone missed and sorry for missing you (I've only really done ones I can remember or that or on this page - how lazy am I?).

AFM - we had a check up yesterday and Oakleigh has put on loads of weight. The nurse is really pleased with him and gave me a big pat on the back. She has said our strict 4 hourly routing can now go out the window and let him sleep for as long as he wants over night - he must have been so tired cause he slept for 7 hrs last night! I'm trying the full BF for the next few days (only topping up with EBM bottle on that last feed at night - like I said I'm a monster with no sleep!) and I'll see how I go. I think it is imporatnt for me to remember when things are really tough that it was tougher before and I've gotten through it before so I sure as hell can do it again.

BTW - I'll post some pictures on here through bucket thingo (forgotten the name but YKWIM!?) cause I understand some had difficulty viewing the FB ones - let me find 5 mins though....!

More weeing on Dr stories please. Let's get this thread up a few notches again.

[Nickimumto1]

Hello to all,

Liam went to the Pead today and all is well. His head is growing, which was our consern. He will have to go back in 1 month to check again and we need to sleep him on his side with a special sleep positioner. He also go weighed and is now 5.4kg which is 900g in three weeks. I thought that he was getting big as he is hard to hold for long now. He did not pee on the doctor, but Meaghan went round and sat on the doctors chair and helped her self to his pen, when i was getting liam undressed. The doctor said that he would go home and she could see the next patient :laughing:.

Hope that everyone is having a good day..

:wave:

[tracynben]

thanks for all ur kind words.
Im hopin today will be better.
Luckily jayden doesnt play up at night, and sleeps pretty well, its just in the day, and havin ben to deal with makes it muc h harder, i just become stressed and angry all the time, which i know i shouldnt, i just cant help it.

Im really tryin to figure out whats going wrong with jayden, its prob just somethin really simple.
Hes got a cold n cough now at the mo, ben has it too, and have passed it on to me, plus they both teethin and not sleepin well.

I think a lot of the time jayden is overtired and really struggles to wind down, he fell alseep in my arms straight away, i just put him down now, i really hope he doesnt wake up, BUT he wont settle in his cot, he use to fine, but just wont at the mo, but maybe cos hes not well he just wants extra comfort.

AND i know ben is just playing up partly cos hes not gettin enough sleep but mainly cos he jusst wants some attention from me and i havent been able to give it to him.
so when sleep time come around cos hes not gettin the opportunity to wind down enough and relax, i have to rush bedtime cos jayden cryin, ben knows this and is still a bit hyper, so wont then go to sleep till hes exhausted and its just been an ongoing circle for the last few days.

once i get jayden sorted i know things will become a lot better with ben. I know things will get easier, and luckily im not gettin depressed over it, im just finidin it tough thats all.

DP helps as much as he can when he can, but he works all week so cant help much then, and hes not been gettin him till after 7pm. BUT i do see light at the end of the tunnel.

Hope everyone else is ok, no time for personals today, need to get dressed n spend some time with ben before the other one wakes etc...

tracy xxxxxx

[MummaFug]

I LOVE MY BABIES....

DD had a bad night but with her little snotty nose - she doesnt know how to breathe so she is forgiven...THis means she isnt feeding well either but will watch how we go this afternoon :)

AS for DS - I was woken this morning by a rattle of a gate (we have put a gate on his bedroom door)..and I heard a "Ding DOng"..."Ding Dong" ... heheh SO SO cute.I have no idea where he got it from but U gotta love him :)

Have a great day everyone - DS has school and then I'm going to try and buy him a chair (coz the 4 he has already arent good enough :rolleyes:).No, we decided to buy him his own little sofa .. so Off I go.

[Ashi]

Holy shiz.. lol i just spent ALL morning on and off between feeds and hanigng washing.. reading all the posts i had missed while MIA

wow haha that was an effort

Hi to everyone and hope your all well and all the bubs are going good

i dont remember all that much for personals.. but M2M we gave Isabelle a bottle of s26 Gold.. and yeah she puked it EVERYWHERE.. i told my child health nurse and she suggested trying s26 Original instead as in her experience alot of babies especially ones coming off breastmilk or being topped up after a breastfeed found the Gold labeled fomulas way to heavy for their little tummies as it has alot of iron and other extra "goodies" in it
so maybe give a non gold label version of your current brand a go or try the s26 original, isabelle has only had 30 mls as a top up Once but she didnt puke any so i believe it was as the child health nurse said, good luck anyhow :)

wow my brains fried after this weekend.. sorry i cant remember anything else i wanted to reply 2.. im sure there was more..

Isabelle is doing great, gave me some HUGE smiles omg melted my heart i tell ya..
Pic1 (http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs014.snc1/2634_58709591805_616646805_1960914_7655824_n.jpg) Pic2 (http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs014.snc1/2634_58709596805_616646805_1960915_6998320_n.jpg) Pic3 (http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs014.snc1/2634_58709611805_616646805_1960918_7849232_n.jpg) Pic4 (http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs014.snc1/2634_58709606805_616646805_1960917_4169059_n.jpg) <3
we had the inlaws visit this weekend..
it was stressful to say the least..
im seriously dreading moving closer to them in a few months time..
incoming family war i think.. i just cant bite my tongue for that long lol..

hope everyone else had a good weekend ill try n keep up more.. i feel like a bit of an outsider here really lol

xox Ashley

[BubsNo1]

Hi everyone, my goodness so many posts to catch up on!!

I've got to get stuck into the housework today, I was a bit slack over the weekend. Been feeling a bit tired too. I guess my diet is sh1t and I'm getting no exercise at the moment either, which doesn't help. :no: Hoping to turn it all around this week.

On the plus side, William continues to be a fairly easy-going bub (bless him!). He slept from 9:30 last night to 5:30 this morning. Then after his 6am bottle he slept again till 8:45am (an hour or so in bed with mum :D)

He's pooing on average once every second day, which I assume is OK. And keeps most of his feeds down too. Can't ask for much more I suppose :thumbsup:

Just wanted to say that I hope everyone has a better day today!!

Well I'm off to do the dishes now, byes xxx..........

[muminwaiting]

Hi,

Sorry I cant add to the weeing stories,

But we just got back from our Paed appointment and when the sour faced nurse picked Holly up to weigh her she vomitted all down the ladies shirt.....made her mumma so proud.:p:D:laughing::smiliedance: :):yelclap: (worth 6 smilies)

Has anyone done any casting of their babies hands or feet?....Is it hard I just brought a kit off ebay, I'm not that crafty.

[k2ma]

:yelclap:Angel - your right, we are all great mums trying to do the best for all our kids and we should remember that all the time

Ashi - what a beautiful smile your little baby has.

MIW - hahaha on the vomiting story. I am ALWAYS the one getting pooped on by my kids.:o

Fugly- Lucas has a rotten cold too, his nose is blocked up and he sounds like an old man snoring at night. The nurse suggested saline solution and a pippette to draw out the mucous when it gets really bad.

Tracy - Have you tried a sling for Jayden? Not sure if it will help in any way but that might free you up to play / chase Ben around a bit more? DS1 and 2 amuse each other but occasionally I put DS3 in the ERGO so that I can cook / hang washing out / survive when he needs to be cuddled.


Nicki - glad to hear that Liam is ok

Brum - good job on the BF.

ohhh that's all I remember.

AFM - Lucas was up for 3 hours with his snuffles last night...he slept well between 7.30 - 12.00 but woke and would not go back down after that...foolishly DH and I decided to watch Mamma Mia while he was asleep so we missed all the opportunity to sleep that existed last night.

The monkeys woke at 6am and caused chaos for half an hour before we could drag ourselves out of bed.

Feeling a little less than refreshed today.

For some reason the last time I saw Mamma Mia I thought it was set in the Caribbean...not so, Greek Islands - I should however be excused for this mistake as the last time I watched it I was in labour...so possibly not concentrating as well as I should have been. Now, I recommend all those ladies feeling a little down in the dumps put that movie on - you won't have to watch it, as long as you can hear it I guarantee you will feel better. Nothing like a little upbeat Abba to get a smile on your face!:flowerz:

Bit on the warm side today isn't it Perth girls? Somehow I am noticing it more now that I am not pregnant?! We lived in the NW up until July this year so you would think I was used to the heat, but no... seems not.:D

[Cordelia]

Man, I'm just beign reminded why cleaning the oven is DH's job..... erggghhhh.....

MIW - good luck on friday with the ultrasound and yikes - i hope the gastro clears up :( poor sour faced nurse hehe. [not]

brum - i love reading your long posts :) thanks! hehe.. that is so good about the weight gain. Must be a huge relief for you :) well done!

nicki - that's funny about DD!! hehe... maybe she will be a doctor. (if it was my DD she would have drawn all over the walls!)

tracy - sounds like you're looking at everything positively. (but also sounds really tough)... they say things get better at 3 months right? not long to go!!!

fugly - so cute of DS! :) I love the age. so cheeky!!!

ashi - those photos were so gorgeous - I haven't caught a smile on camera yet. I'll have to start carrying one around with my finger poised. Ahhh in-laws dont get me started. why oh why oh why do we have to have em.

bubsno1 - enjoy the housework! :P i'm here avoiding finishing off the oven. yuuuuck

k2ma - hehe giggled at you watchign mamma mia in labour. I thought it was a great movie too! I'm seeing confessions of a shopaholic on sunday. leaving daniel home this time!! i think the loud noises of the movies make him upset. poor kid!! ahh yes the heat - i really have to go continue my weeding but just looked up the temp... 37 here... might do it later on.

have to make profiteroles for playgroup tomorrow and clean up for DD's play date in the afternoon. Yikes - so tired. I wish I'd rediscover my laziness. Surely this hard work ethic has to wear out sooner or later. ahhh yes, the oven....

work awaits.

[k2ma]

eek Cords I am just in the process of organising a gardening service for this place having now realised that we are never going to get around to doing the garden ourselves...that is the bum about rentals...you can't just let the garden go to seed without getting a right ol ticking off. Hope it is not an expensive venture.

[tracynben]

hi everyone im still just about sane.

CORDS - i really hope it does get better in a few weeks time. ben was much easier at this age and was sleepin from at least 10 - 5 every day, and was much easier to settle.

K2MA - i have thought about a sling but dp wouldnt buy one, anything like that is a waste of money to him, and i dont have any money cos i dont work. If i really begged and pleaded for one he mite get one, but at the mo money is that tite we lucky if we have 10 dollars spare.
ive put him in the pram at the mo and am rocking him, its the only way or by holding him at the mo that i can get him to go to sleep, its only been the last 3 or 4 days hes been like this, so i dont understand.

MIW - lol about the vomit, and nope never tried the castin things, im sure they cant be that hard can they ??? lol

BUBSNO1 - glad william is being good for you and sleepin good. Hopefully jayden will be like that soon, althought nights are not too bad its the days.

ASHI - understand what u mean about leavin near in laws esp when they are a pain in the ***, i have the same problem sometimes

AFM well the day hasnt gone too well up to now, ben not slpet and jayden hasnt slept much either, i hope its just the cold n teethin with both of them.

tracy xxxx

[bootiful]

hi everyone

got no energy to do personals, still haven't been to sleep.

i have just tied a muslim wrap around my neck and stuck nicole in it, given her some panadol and she is sleeping.

her immunisations went well today, she only cried for 30 seconds max.

i am a bit freaked out by the oral rotavirus one though. the lady told me not to kiss her mouth or face, not to ger her saliva on me, to wash my nipple after feeding, not to use cloth nappies unless i can sterilize them and if using spozzies to wrap them up tight and to thoroughly wash my hands etc.

This seems sooo much work, esp cause i hate spozzies, but i have a bunch left that are too small for her so im using them as liners in the mcn's. Its for 2 weeks so will prob use them all.

anyways, just thought i'd check in on my ladies :D

[k2ma]

hi everyone

got no energy to do personals, still haven't been to sleep.

i have just tied a muslim wrap around my neck and stuck nicole in it, given her some panadol and she is sleeping.

her immunisations went well today, she only cried for 30 seconds max.

i am a bit freaked out by the oral rotavirus one though. the lady told me not to kiss her mouth or face, not to ger her saliva on me, to wash my nipple after feeding, not to use cloth nappies unless i can sterilize them and if using spozzies to wrap them up tight and to thoroughly wash my hands etc.

This seems sooo much work, esp cause i hate spozzies, but i have a bunch left that are too small for her so im using them as liners in the mcn's. Its for 2 weeks so will prob use them all.

anyways, just thought i'd check in on my ladies :D


Far out angel. They didn't say this to me...I was feeding him in the surgery after they jabbed him...hmmm.

Lucas was most unsettled the day after. Cried hard and did that horrible I am in pain scream thing for about half an hour...he seemed to have really bad indigestion and windypoppy bottom. Poor thing. He also slept for the best part of 24 hours.

Hope Nicole does not have the same. Poor little things. Still, better than actually having the virus - we have done that with the older ones and DH - IT AIN"T PLEASANT!!

specially when your the one cleaning up:D

[muminwaiting]

hi everyone im still just about sane.


K2MA - i have thought about a sling but dp wouldnt buy one, anything like that is a waste of money to him, and i dont have any money cos i dont work. If i really begged and pleaded for one he mite get one, but at the mo money is that tite we lucky if we have 10 dollars spare.
.
tracy xxxx

Can you sew? Any piece of material will do the trick, rip up an old sheet and tie it around your neck like you would a sling for a broken arm.

or heres a link to a pattern I found on google.
http://www.mykarmababy.com/pages/BabySlingPattern.php

[honeydew]

Hi girls! I love this thread, there is always someone to pick us up when we are feeling cr.ap :hugs:


Holly had this problem as well but we were on Mylanta, Karicare do a food thickener that you can add to the milk to just make it a little thicker and easier for her to keep down, I also found sitting her upright for about 20-30min after a feed helped. Be careful with the thickener though it can make them constipated. I also tried a heap of different brands of bottles and I found the Wideneck Pigeon Peristaltic Nipple bottle to be the best,I found them at Terry White Chemists & Big W, the milk flow is slow so they can not gulp it down which adds to the vomitting. If you can not find them and would like to try them PM me your address and I would be happy to mail one to you. I can not speak highly enough of them.

Thanks for the advice! I find the whole thing confusing- Mason was such a simple happy-go-lucky bub who never spewed or complained lol. Thanks so much for the offer of the bottle, but I am going to stick with the ones I am using (esp since I just bought 6 new ones!). I am using the tommee tippee closer to nature as they are good for combining breast & bottle. Seeing as I can't bring myself to completely give up the BFing, I don't want to do anything that might cause more confusion and affect it iykwim. Thank you though, its so lovely of you to offer :hugs: Sorry to hear Holly had the gastro again, poor thing has had a rough time of it hasn't she. Good luck for the u/s on friday, be sure to let us know how she goes. I bet you'll feel so much better once she is out of the harness. We got the Twinkle Toes (hand & foot casts) done of both kids when Layla was 3 weeks old but haven't got them back yet. They are quite expensive though, let me know how you go with your home kit.


i dont remember all that much for personals.. but M2M we gave Isabelle a bottle of s26 Gold.. and yeah she puked it EVERYWHERE.. i told my child health nurse and she suggested trying s26 Original instead as in her experience alot of babies especially ones coming off breastmilk or being topped up after a breastfeed found the Gold labeled fomulas way to heavy for their little tummies as it has alot of iron and other extra "goodies" in it
so maybe give a non gold label version of your current brand a go or try the s26 original, isabelle has only had 30 mls as a top up Once but she didnt puke any so i believe it was as the child health nurse said, good luck anyhow

Thanks for letting me know, I would have had no idea about the Gold labelled formulas being too heavy. I think I will change her formula once this current tin is finished. The gaviscon has been helping heaps but that is an extra expense on top of the formula so it would make more sense to try a different formula instead. LOVE the pics of Isabelle, she looks so chubby and cute!

Angel- :eek: I wasn't told ANY of that about the oral rotavirus! I kiss Layla on the mouth all the time and I never wash my nipples after a feed. I wonder why not all Dr's are passing on this info? :(

There was soooo much more to reply to but tonight is a bit crazy and I really shouldn't even be on the computer at all. Have so much to do. Just wanted to pop in and see how everyone was.

Today Layla was an angel considering she had her needles yesterday. I have been giving her a BF before every bottle as I can't bring myself to stop BFing because I love it so much. This is the best of both worlds for me- I still get to 'BF' but I also don't have the stress of whether she is getting enough. I have been up and down like a yo-yo with my decisions but this is what I feel comfortable with :D

Did I mention yesterday that Mason has an ear infection? He seems much better today now that he has had some AB's.

[bootiful]

Can you sew? Any piece of material will do the trick, rip up an old sheet and tie it around your neck like you would a sling for a broken arm.

or heres a link to a pattern I found on google.
http://www.mykarmababy.com/pages/BabySlingPattern.php

:yes: i just got a muslin wrap tonight and tied that round my neck, not really safe enough to walk round with it but to sit without holding them is good.

just make sure you knot it up properly so it doesn't slip.

[Shell31]

Hi Girls,

How are we all this lovely Wednesday? Sun's shining here & we are off to the park later with a girlfriend & her two boys. Daisy had her needles yesterday. She really broke her heart when they were done.. You know that cry they do that uses up every lost breath of air in their lungs.. and then some? And just when you think they can't go on anymore & have to take a breath, they let out another last ditch, red faced wail :no: Poor little girl. She was abit unsettled for a few hours but Aaron was home to help & she eventually calmed down after a bath & some panadol & slept until 3am so that wasnt too bad. She was smiling at me this morning when she was up so hopefully that will be it. Theo's escma (spelling) is bad at the moment so we are back to basics with soap powder, shampoo, soap in the bath etc. Not alot else we can do. I don't like using the steroid cream unless its REALLY bad. Hate putting that on his young skin.

Now for some personals...

Angel - I also wasnt told by the Dr about not kissing Daisy etc & my Dr is usually VERY thorough. I wonder if its true or not? Anyways I'm not stopping kissing my little girl.. She's way too cute for that "-) I've often thought of tieing a muslin wrap up as a makeshift sling. Only thing stopping me is the fact it could come undone & she could fall. I would love a sling.

M2M - :yelclap: for you still offering the breast before each bottle. Like you said.. Best of both worlds. I would have been more then happy to keep up the first thing in the morning & last thing at night feeds with my others once going back to work but they honestly wouldnt have a bar of me once they got a free flowing bottle in their hot little hands. I'm so happy she is still enjoying the closeness with you & continuing to feed off you. Well done..

MIW - Ohhhhhhhhhh thank you for the pattern for the sling. Its exactly the sort I"d love to have but can't warrant spending $60-$80 on buying one when Daisy may hate it lol. Only problem is I can't sew lol. I can do everything else, hand sew, Crochet, Knit, Cross stitch etc but I absolutely cannot use a sewing machine. They literally go spastic when I sit in front of them much to my Mum's dismay:laughing: She's been a sewer all her life workwise but now she has very bad rheumatoid athritis & also ms so her sewing days are no longer. Wonder if I can find an old granny around here who'd want to make it for me LOL
No good Holly's sick again.. Poor little thing has had such a rought trot. WOO HOO @ her chucking on the nurse.. LOVE those stories.

K2MA - we've also been through the rotavirus thing with Brookie when she was 5wks old or so.. Was the most horrific thing I've ever seen. Horrible. She was in hospital for a week poor thing. She was 4wks premmy too so she was so so teeny to be power spewing accross the kitchen. Good luck with the garden saga. I love getting out in the garden its just so darn hard to find the time right now. The weeds in my garden need doing again.. I'll pm you my address & you can send them over here when they've finished your place :p Hope you get some rest today.

Cordelia - Also pm'ing you my address for my dozen profiteroles. They are my weakness... LOVE them.. fiddly to make though. That choux pastry never behaves itself for me. Think its my oven.. Yep we'll run with that.. Its my oven !!!! Which also needs a clean mind you.. Ugggh thank you SO much for reminding me about that!!! You & I are probably lucky we don't live closer together. We'd probably be a bad influence on each other lol I can see it now.. I cleaned my oven today.. Ohhhh Im doing mine tomorrow.. I did do my gardening though.. OHHHHH im doing that wednesday.. You going to move the furniture around again today?? Wash curtains? De-clutter? lol

Tracy - :hugs: Gosh it does sound like your doing it tough right now. You still sound like your doing fantastic though. Do you ever get a chance to lay down during the day? Is there ever a time when both boys are asleep? What about if you laid down with Ben? Read some stories & lay down with him for some nice one on one snuggles & then had a little sleep together? Wouldnt hurt would it?

ASHI !!!! Isabelle.. awwww she is so so cute. She has cheeks to die for.. My husband even gave an awwwwwww when he saw the pics on the screen. LOL @ the inlaws.. Mine are really nice so I don't have that problems. They do both live in different states to me though.. FIL in QLD & MIL is in VIC. Thanks again for sharing those photo's. I wanna squish her lil cheeks up & give her a big snuggle.

BubsNo1 - omg my diet isnt the best at the moment either. I'm taking a multi vitamin at the moment to try & help with that. It can't hurt hey. William's sleeping really well for you. Don't you love those morning snuggles in bed with Mum. I never get them for long cause if I linger I'll end up with 4 in there with me. Aaron left at 5.30 this morning.. First Theo ended up in Aarons vacated warm side, Then Daisy, Then Brookie then Jamie wandered in lol.. Its cute though there is NO Sleep once they come in to snuggle with me. They only do it when Aaron's left. Its a rule. They know they aren't to come in unless Aaron's gone to work cause he's a shiftworker & sometimes doesnt finish work until 6 imagine if 4 kids bombarded him at 7am or something.. eeeeeeeeek.

Hi to everyone else. I did go back 2 pages but you same lot have been gassbagging :laughing:

Have a great day
Rachelle x

[Shell31]

Oh forgot to say Daisy put on 650grams in 2 weeks :D She is now 5.42kgs

Also... Whats up with this smiley??? :shame: hahah I've never noticed him before.. Im going to use it atleast once a day.. Cordelia I think it will be to you first up :p

[BubsNo1]

Also... Whats up with this smiley??? :shame: hahah I've never noticed him before.. Im going to use it atleast once a day..

LOL Shell, hopefully I'm not on your list to be told off! :laughing: That's great that Daisy has put on a stack of weight, well done! :D Sorry to hear that Theo's excema (sp?) is playing up, but sounds as though Daisy's shots went well which is good.

M2M, sounds as though you are doing a wonderful job! Keep it up! And hopefully Layla and Mason are both feeling better today :hugs:

Yikes with these immunisation stories, I'm so not looking forward to taking William to the clinic next week, but I know it has to be done :no:

Angel & Tracy - hopefully you both manage to get some rest today. And Tracy I hope both your boys settle down for you soon xx

Gardening & baking - congrats to those of you that have the energy to do this!! :sleeping:

Enjoy your day ladies,
Sheree xxx

[Shell31]

lol Sheree I didnt even notice he was a telling off kinda smiley. I just thought he looked abit sinister & evil :laughing:

Well I got halfway to the park before the school rang & asked me to pick Brooke up. She has the vomits. She told me she felt sick before she left for school this morning but because she is a big fat liar I didnt believe her :rolleyes: That will teach me !!!

:shame: Rachelle... You should have listened to her!!!

There goes my peaceful day !!!

[beck75]

Hello All

Slack, slack, slack I am - I know I promise to post more often just gat caught up in things.......

Jake is doing well, not sure how much he weighs as I haven't tried him again but he has difinately grown. He is pretty much in 00's with the occasional 000 now. He is still a good baby and is pretty good at self settling. He does still heed about every 2 hours though. He is not a snacker I think it is just my supply again (like with DD) but I will lieve with it for now. He does usually go for a 5 - 6 hour break overnight which helps. Have been trying to get him to bed at the same time and he is starting to get into a routine for going to bed which is great. At the moment he goes down with no trouble which is great as we have to stay with DD until she goes to sleep or she just gets out of bed - grrrrr.

I hear some of of you are having issues pickign a formula. I had to try heaps of different ones with DD and she wouldn't drink anything!! But eventually she took to one brand (which ended up being Karicare Gold) about a month after we started trying. I remember the MCN advising that even t hough she was above 6 months at the time to use a from birth formula first as it was too bigger jump straight into a 6 months plus formula.

Jake had his needles a few weeks ago and apart from being upset at the time he coped pretty well with no real reaction except for a light temperature - he was over it within a day or 2.

Where are all your bubs sleeping at the moment? We had DD in a bassinet in our room until 3 months then put her in the cot. Jake is still in the bassinet but there is not a lot of room left in there now! I think he might be going in the cot soon but I do love having him in my room!

As for developmental, Jake could roll over from his tummy from 6 weeks (I think he just hated his tummy time that much) but doesn't appear to be able to do it as easy or often now he is a bit heavier. He is holding his head pretty steady most of the time and loves to put weight on his legs. He also loves to hit his hangy toys and will play with them for ages. He recently found his hand and just stared at it for ages with a smile on his face opening and shutting it - sooo cute!!

Oh and one of his teeth has broken through the front of his gum - I just hope it continues to go upward not outward. THe other 3 down the bottom are still just below the surface, you can feel them and see them but I don't think they are moving in a hurry which is good as it is too young for teeth!

Well I better go and get some washing done, we had visitors over the long weekend and nothing got done!

I will try and be a better poster! Take care everyone.

[Bexta]

Hi Ladies!!!

Wow... very chatty in here! I have trouble keeping up (& typing 1 handed!).

:eek: about the rotavirus!!! OMG!!! We go our imunisations next week, so I'll ask.

Sorry... no peeing stories here!!! I on the other hand have started jogging & let me tell you, my pelvic floor muscles have alot to answer for!!! :o I almost became a peeing story myself!!! :laughing:

Love the sling link! I'm an Ergo maniac... but bought a HugABub for DS2 for the 1st 4 monnths... love it but it gets a bit tricky & as was mentioned earlier in the thread, it drags on the groung whilst puting it on... not a good look!

I thought I had an absolute angel for a bub this time... HEAPS easier than the last one... well that didn't last long!!! :no: The swing has become my new best friend! Otherwise he just hangs off a nipple for most of the day.

Didin't someone say it should get better at about 3 months??? :crying::laughing:

[Nickimumto1]

Hi :wave:,

Just a quick post as i can hear Liam stiring for a feed. Went shopping with the two of them today (noramaly i wait till DD is at childcare) and i thought how far i have come in just 7 short weeks. I remember crying every day when DH went to work, and falling in to bed each night only to be woken 20min later. Now i can go out with 2 kids and have it not end in tears. I can go to bed at night knowing that i only have to get up once. I also can't believe that Liam is getting so big, where did all that newborn tinnyness go to?

Hope that everyone has a good day, i am off to spoil myself tomorrow and buy an overlocker. Have wanted one for years, no more driving to MIL to use hers (she complains when i change the settings) it will be great to have my own and then i can make the kids some winter clothes.
:sunshine:

[Cordelia]

nasty Shell!!! After much consideration I decided to dedicate this smiley back atcha:

":raspberry:"

Enjoy :) :raspberry: gr8 that Daisy is gaining weight so well! AND :shame: for not listening to your daughter this morning!

rotavirus vaccine - the only thing the nurse told us is NOT TO EAT HIS POO. mm well gosh darn, I was going to save on the groceries. he was really upset following it and we had some GINORMOUS nappies in the days following... plus a huge vomit so I don't know if it was due to that or not.

That sling pattern looks really good!! I have a bubba moe sling which we use heaps.

mummytomason - ear infection oouuucchhhh

beck - really good to hear from you. WOW! you must have scored Super baby with teething, rolling and grabbing toys!!

Bexta - keep at it!! It will get better. I'm sure it's just a stage for you :hugs:

nickimum - sounds like yuo're doing so well. good on you!! enjoy the overlooker.

Me - Daniel spent his first night in a cot last night! did fabulously (woke at 3:30 as usual for 20 mintues for a feed).. Ahhh loving this!!! Having the best time with my 2 little-y's. Speaking of the little-er one, I can hear he's just woke up!

I might "drop by" later on... byeee

[Bexta]

Cords - our usual wake-up is also 3:30am... funny, he then wakes again at 5:30 :rolleyes:.

[Shell31]

LOL you'll keep Cordelia.. You'll keep :p
Don't eat the poo huh. Hmmmmmm Not sure what to say to that one. YAY For Daniels first night in his cot. Great that he was settled in there too. I worry as Daisy has a ti-tree mattress in the bassinette which is really squishy & Im sure going onto a normal mattress won't be easy to get used to. I'll have to "chock her up" so to speak with a rolled towel in front & behind.

Nicky - Awww Good your getting an overlocker & I can also remember you coming on here saying you were in tears everytime DH came home from work.. YAY for you!!! Now I think its only fair that you're getting a new overlocker & that you made some kick butt nappies that you make us all slings :laughing: LOL you could sew a DIJ on them for Due in January.. hahah. oh good I have cabin fever.

Beck - Slacko you are.. Anyone would think you had a newborn to look after or something lol Jake sounds HUGE. What a legend rolling over so early & teeth eeeek That IS early. Daisy is in our room in the bassinette but we will have to move the kids around soon so she can have Theo's room & cot cause she is getting abit snug in there. I wish I didnt have to move Theo out of his room but his is right next too ours & I can't put Daisy in the other rooms as they are down the other end of the house and she'd wake everyone one before I heard her lol.. We'll manage.

Bexta - Mental images now of a baby swinging from a nipple.. Wearing a cammy nappy of course lol. Also got a laugh out of your jogging story.. You are a legend if you can jog. I reckon I'd only get 2 houses down before I'd be gasping for breath :rolleyes:

M2M - meant to ask how is Mason today? Usually doesnt take long for AB to kick in. Didnt he miss out on a daycare day last week? Hope he is ok to go tomorrow. I'm hoping Brookes ok for school tomorrow. I seriously need some rest. I had them all asleep earlier.. all 3 of them & lay down on my bed to read. Woke up 10mins later with Brooke calling me throwing up! Felt worse then ever after 10mins sleep.

Aaron's taken Theo to the beach for a paddle and I'm on vomit duty.. yay so lucky. Daisy didnt sleep much this morning but has been in bed since 12.45 so having a good sleep now. I should go lay down but vomit girl needs me. Poor thing looks so so sick. She has the sick eyes going on.

[Nickimumto1]

Shell 31 - LOL at the sling idea, i have made one but he does not like it :no:..He likes the Hug-a -bub but it is a pain to tie, and i always look retarted doing it up, it drags on the ground..would be happy to send the sling that i made to anyone, they would have to be size 14+ as it is sized.

Hope you have fun with vomit girl..the things we go through as parents.

[Nickimumto1]

Just noticed that i am now a member not "Junior" member..woo hoo..so the time i spend on the computer is good for something...

[honeydew]

Hi lovely mummies!

Have had a pretty good day here, have managed to get a heap of housework done. Nikimum, I was thinking the same thing this morning about how far I have come in a few short weeks. When DH first went back to work I would sit on the lounge feeding Layla ALL day and by the time he got home I basically threw myself into his arms in a sobbing heap begging for help :rolleyes: But you are doing much better than me, I am yet to go out on my own with the 2 of them (other than the daycare run). I haven't even figured out how to assemble the pram yet, DH does it when we go out. Must learn it soon so I don't do what I did when Mason was a newborn and stand in the carpark at the shopping centre looking like a fool trying to get the pram up. THEN look like an even bigger fool when I get back to the car and have to figure out how to get it down again.

Shell- I was told that goats milk soap (the unperfumed kind) is good for sensitive skin. You've probably tried everything but just thought I would mention it. Well done Daisy on the weight gain! How is Brooke now? Poor thing :hugs: Mason is much better but a little bit cranky still.

Beck- hello! Good to hear from you again. Layla is still sleeping in the basinette beside our bed. I am not ready to move her out but I do find it annoying that DH will get up for work at 4:45am when he's on dayshift and it wakes her up. Mason gets up then if he hears DH anyway so I guess it doesn't matter too much.

Bexta- lol @ the pelvic floors. Mine have a LOT to answer for as well :laughing: (and I have only had one vb). I absolutely love my ergo as well, out of all the baby gear we have ever bought it would have to be my favourite item.

Nikimum- make sure you take some pics of the kids clothes you make! I adore handmade clothes for kids, they are so much nicer than what you can buy in the shops these days ('these days'- I sound like a granny :p).

Cordelia- Thanks for letting me know I shouldn't eat her poo.... gosh what would we do without bubhub?! :laughing:

Hi to everyone else, hope your little bubbas are treating you well.

Have to brag- Layla slept in until nearly 6:30 this morning :D (went to bed at about 10pm). Can't complain about that!

[muminwaiting]

Afternoon ladies...

Beck OMG teeth already....Holly is a week older I'm too scared to look inside her mouth.:p
I still have Holly in her bassinet next to our bed and I am not looking forward to moving her into her own room into her cot...I have even measured the space between my side of the bed and wall to see if her cot will fit...it doesnt :crying::crying::crying:.. I think I will become that sad figure sleeping on the floor next to her cot.

Shell I also suffer from eczema but it completely went away while I was pregnant which was really strange as I have had it all my life....It has came back since Holly was born...Maybe its a hormone thing?..

Nicky You have my complete respect I can not even sew a button on. :D

M2M Brag away, Just reinforces that you are doing the right thing.

I can not remember who mentioned cleaning the stove but that was one of the things I loved about being pregnant DH wouldn't let me near any chemicals I HATE cleaning the oven....ohhh and windows

US I have a sick little girl on my hands she has been vomitting and has the worst cold I am going nuts and I feel so guilty she has been sick so much in her short 11wk life I don't know how she gets it we hardly go anywhere and we don't get many visitors I don't know what I am doing wrong

[BellyFruit]

He likes the Hug-a -bub but it is a pain to tie, and i always look retarted doing it up, it drags on the ground..

omg this is me EXACTLY! At the shops I was like WTF :confused: how the bloody hell is this going to work?? And DH thinks its "too hard" and is embarrassed to have to fart around with it at the shops so wont wear it :o... I've worn it out twice and it was very comfy... it's hard to get it right though ( I love the fact it comes with a 20 min instructional DVD :laughing:)

[honeydew]

How does the hug-a-bub work? Could you possibly put it on before leaving home and then just slip bub in it once you get there? Just a thought...

[bootiful]

You know that cry they do that uses up every lost breath of air in their lungs.. and then some? And just when you think they can't go on anymore & have to take a breath, they let out another last ditch, red faced wail

doesn't that just make you wanna bawl :crying:



Angel - I also wasnt told by the Dr about not kissing Daisy etc & my Dr is usually VERY thorough. I wonder if its true or not?

they told me not to kiss her face because the virus is live and very very contagious and terrible if you get it, and you can get it from their saliva if there is any of the virus spores still in their mouth, so they say wait 12hrs or so to make sure. I don't want gastro so I just waited till this morning.




Angel & Tracy - hopefully you both manage to get some rest today. And Tracy I hope both your boys settle down for you soon xx

Gardening & baking - congrats to those of you that have the energy to do this!!

rest..:laughing: what's that. I didn't go to sleep till nearly 3am cause DH was snoring IN THE LOUNGEROOM..WITH THE DOORS CLOSED!!!! arhhhhhh. Anyhoo, Nic woke up for a feed @ 4am then again @7 so no sleep there. Then Steph woke up, did the breakfast thing, dropped her off and daycare and went to Coles for food, then to my exercise class, then to IGA for the rest of the shopping, came home and cleaned the house, then time to pick up Steph from daycare, and now im taking out 30mins to catch up on BH before I start dinner. Hopefully I will get to sleep tonight okay.:rolleyes:

Oh and for the gardening and baking....i find gardening very Zen :D im a dag i know....and i used to be a pastry cook so I love baking.



Where are all your bubs sleeping at the moment?

Nic has been in her room from day 1, only sleep in her cradle swing in the lounge or in our room when she is sick.



I thought I had an absolute angel for a bub this time... HEAPS easier than the last one... well that didn't last long!!! The swing has become my new best friend! Otherwise he just hangs off a nipple for most of the day.

ooo not another one, Nic would be glued to my boob all day if she could, the cradle swing was heaven too, up until a week ago when she stopped liking it, she is slowly warming to it again, i think she finds it boring as it doesn't cuddle her :laughing:




Me - Daniel spent his first night in a cot last night! did fabulously (woke at 3:30 as usual for 20 mintues for a feed).. Ahhh loving this!!! Having the best time with my 2 little-y's. Speaking of the little-er one, I can hear he's just woke up!

Congrats!




Shell- I was told that goats milk soap (the unperfumed kind) is good for sensitive skin. You've probably tried everything but just thought I would mention it.

Shell, I have started using BioOil on Steph's eczema cause hers can get really bad, and it seems to be working.




US I have a sick little girl on my hands she has been vomitting and has the worst cold I am going nuts and I feel so guilty she has been sick so much in her short 11wk life I don't know how she gets it we hardly go anywhere and we don't get many visitors I don't know what I am doing wrong

:hugs: to all of you ladies with sick kids, hope they get better soon.

well id better go start dinner .... chat later...bye xox

[Ashi]

Well i was gonna reply.. and do some personals.. and add a funny story.. but izzy is cracking it so ill be back tomorrow n try get some time to reply then lol im sure all the personals i was going to add today will have changed

i will say tho izzy had her injections today and Re:Rotavix the nurse said wash hands after nappy changes religiously for 1 week to make sure we dont get sick
that was it.. nothing about washing nipples or anything.. and i fed her in the waiting room after the needles, and didnt say anything about kissing her face or saliva :S....

hope your all well .. hopefully i get back on tomorrow lol xoxo Ash

[muminwaiting]

I have been very naughty Pumpkin Patch are having a online sale on their summer clearance stuff and I couldn't help myself...I have a serious problem I need to join a therapy group, attend meetings..."Hello my name is Tricia and I am a shopaholic"..

I have enough summer cloths for Holly to cloth a small village but they sent me an email offering a discount if I just entered the magic code at checkout...I NEED HELP!!!!!!!!

I did get some great bargins though.:laughing:

[honeydew]

MIW- argh they suck you in hey! I am a pumpkin patch addict, the clothes are just tooooo cute. Esp the girls clothes, the boys stuff is nice but those pretty little girls outfits are just too adorable to pass up. And it would be CRIMINAL not to take advantage of a good sale :laughing: I got Layla a few things online from them last week- LOVELY!

Ok better go get daycare bag packed for tomorrow and clothes ironed. Layla has her fortnightly chn visit tomorrow and it is near on impossible to get 2 kids out the door on time when you have to be somewhere by a certain time :rolleyes:

[justmum]

hey all i've done an anon poll for us - to see how we're going as a group.

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=243345

please answer :)

[Shell31]

Anyone else's B/F baby only poo once a week?

Today is commonly called "poo day" for us as Daisy has only pooed on a Thursday for the last 3 weeks & let me tell you I'm scared. They are getting bigger every week. Today was catastrophic. I'm on my knee's thanking the lord I wasnt out with her somewhere for this one. It was a bath job. What a mess :eek: If it wasnt such poor taste I would have taken a photo for proof. In all of my 4 children I have never and I mean NEVER seen the likes of this!

Going to clean up ground zero :rolleyes:

[Cordelia]

Bring out the gumboots Shell!!!

Hey managed to get a smile photo finally.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2232566&l=b0c66&id=819459250

You should be able to see that link even if you're not on facebook.

awww... he is so so cool. Even cooler that he slept NINE AND A HALF HOURS LAST NIGHT. WHAT THE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7pm til 4:30am... he extended from his 3:30 wakeup. Is that OK???? I think he'd wake if he was hungry. I wasn't purposely holding back the food but he's the one that wakes us up.

ETA: The mark below his eye was self inflicted. he needs a manicure.

[Shell31]

Awww Cordelia he is beeeeeeeeeeuuuuutiful. How's his big eyes.. awwww thank you for posting that.

lol @ gumboots.. If I had any they would of been on!!

9.5hrs... WHOA... thats fantastic. Daisy seems to be doing the same sort of thing.. not quite as long though. She will have a feed & go to bed about 7.30-8pm then I do a dreamfeed before I go to bed about 11 & she slept until 6am today. How good are our little bubba's :D

I definately think if he's hungry he would have woken up but I've always been mindful the next day that they could possibly want a few make up feeds. Daisy usually crams in the evenings lol. I dont mind now I know it will usually mean she'll sleep right though..

Well done Cords.. pat on the back ... :thumbsup:

[MummaFug]

Cordelia - DS is SO SO cute - I love the smile shot :) He really is adorable.

Shell - :confused: DD poos at least once if not twice a day .. ALthough if you know when DD is going to poo - atleast she will be easy to toilet train :laughing:

[tracynben]

ok just a quickie from me, too many personals, u were very busy chattin yesterday.

After taking a step back from my situation, and loosin the plot again yesterday, and some advice from a friend, i have realised i got to stop being so negaitve and feelin sorry for myslef.

Yeah things are tough, very tough, but its not going to be like this forever, ive got throught the last 7 weeks ploddin along with hardly any sleep, gone through 20 hours of labour n pain to end in another emergency section, SO if i can get through all that i can get through this tough time too.
I basically just need to get motivated, be positive, and a good kick up the ***.

i am very negative up to now, and just moan to dp all the time, shout at ben and hardly spend anytime with him, and thats why hes having problems , cos of the way im dealin with him.

I first need to get jayden in some kinda rountine, and then i can concentrate more on ben, and things should become easier.

Im gonna write things down, and goals for me, kids life etc and deal with one at a time.

AND lastly i gotta stop spending too much time on the computer cos i do, im addicted to it.

Hope everyone is ok, and im sending everyone good vibes, remember we all have beautiful babies, and this stage of their lifes goes so quickly, so we need to enjoy it and be happy even when times ar tough.

tracy xxxxxxx

[Nickimumto1]

Hello to all,

I am very excited, i got my overlocker and at $200 off. Had a bit of trouble getting it and Liam back to the car though, but all is good and it is sitting on my table top as i type this. I have threaded it and tested it. Just waiting for Liam to wake and i will get in to some sewing. Even bought a pattern and some fabric to make myself some pants as i have none that even come close to fitting me. Still wearing track pants, am so sick of black track pants..

Shell - Liam poo's every second day, he is bottle feed. The MCH nurse said that breast feed babies can poo as little as once a month. It is because breast milk is so perfect for babies tummies that all of it absorbed, so there is nothing left to poo. At least you know that she is regular. Did your daughter get better?

Cordelia - Aww, he is georgous. What big eyes.

Sleeping arrangments and sleep - Liam sleeps from 7pm - 3am but the other night sleept till 5am :eek:. Liam is sleeping in the hall outside our room. We only have 2 bedroom and he is not ready to share with his sister just yet. Hence why we are looking for a bigger house.

better go liam iscrying
:wave:

[BubsNo1]

Hello ladies, how are you going?


Cords - our usual wake-up is also 3:30am... funny, he then wakes again at 5:30.

Hi Bexta, 3:30 is the normal wake up time here too, except for those few occassions when he sleeps through!


Just noticed that i am now a member not "Junior" member..woo hoo..so the time i spend on the computer is good for something...

Woohoo Nicki!!


Have to brag- Layla slept in until nearly 6:30 this morning (went to bed at about 10pm). Can't complain about that!

Excellent work M2M!!



US I have a sick little girl on my hands she has been vomitting and has the worst cold I am going nuts and I feel so guilty she has been sick so much in her short 11wk life I don't know how she gets it we hardly go anywhere and we don't get many visitors I don't know what I am doing wrong

MIW, sorry to hear that Holly is not well, but don't blame yourself these things just happen unfortunately :hugs:I hope she gets better real soon!! xx


i will say tho izzy had her injections today and Re:Rotavix the nurse said wash hands after nappy changes religiously for 1 week to make sure we dont get sick
that was it..

Thanks for the advice Ashi, this rotavirus thing does not sound good at all! :no:


hey all i've done an anon poll for us - to see how we're going as a group.
http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=243345
please answer

I have posted my votes :D


awww... he is so so cool. Even cooler that he slept NINE AND A HALF HOURS LAST NIGHT. WHAT THE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7pm til 4:30am... he extended from his 3:30 wakeup. Is that OK???? I think he'd wake if he was hungry. I wasn't purposely holding back the food but he's the one that wakes us up.

Hey Cords, great pic of DS!! Sooo cute. As for the sleep - good work!! I've read that on average newborns can sleep for about 8.5 hours a night. So he's right on target :)



I basically just need to get motivated, be positive, and a good kick up the ***.
Hope everyone is ok, and im sending everyone good vibes, remember we all have beautiful babies, and this stage of their lifes goes so quickly, so we need to enjoy it and be happy even when times ar tough.

Hi Tracy, glad to hear that you've taken a step back and try to stop beating yourself up over everything. Eventually things will all settle down for you!! :hugs:

AFM: Sleeping arrangements - William is still sleeping in the bassinette in the loungeroom (both day & night). Like others I'm not looking forward to the transition to the cot in the nursery. :no: But it has to happen soon as he will be outgrowing the bassinette shortly!

Got a piccie of William on his playmat yesterday:
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/BubsNo1/7weeksplaytime010-1.jpg

Well I think that's about it for now, take care ladies!! Gotta go, got a crying bub to attend to...........
Sheree xxx

[Cordelia]

Im gonna write things down, and goals for me, kids life etc and deal with one at a time.


That sounds like an awesome idea!! I might do the same. I'm so motivated right now. I think once you start making yourself feel positive then it becomes a habit. This birth has been so different to my last because I'm taking pride in keeping myself, my house and my family looking and feeling good. And I feel like there's a goal in my life. DD is so much happier when I plan activities, remain positive all day and am organised.

oh I crap on... sorry. I'm just amazed at how much better I'm dealing with a newborn this time. And I reckon you've got it right - you have to decide to be positive.

thanks for all your comments re: his photo. :)

Sheree - that is a gorgeous photo of william :) hehe I reckon from 2-5 months is the cutest time of their life. after that it's all downhill HAHA

nicki - WOW!!! I didn't realise that all these other babies were sleeping so well. DS has just moved into hsi cot and i think that's why he's sleeping so well.. oh does it get any better!!!

I went to myer this morning and bought some cute Sprout outfits - I love sprout. SOME of pumpkin patch ranges I like - but recently I like sprout heaps more. Thanks Mr Rudd - I just spent $141.00 of your bonus - only $759 left. (straight on the credit card unfortunately!)

I went and bought all these new herbs and flowers for some pots on our patio on the weekend adn DD had a friend come over yesterday and went and derooted all these gerberas!!! I have to go replant them. :hair: Thanks sweet.

Have a great day - stay positive!!!! :flowerz::flowerz: Enjoy your little cuties!!!! more photos too please!!

[Nickimumto1]

:wave:

I should be cooking dinner, not being on the computer. DD will be home from childcare any minute. But i had to reply,


This birth has been so different to my last because I'm taking pride inkeeping myself, my house and my family looking and feeling good. And Ifeel like there's a goal in my life. DD is so much happier when I planactivities, remain positive all day and am organised. :iagree:

Cordelia you should write motivational books, you have inspired me to be more positive. I have been looking at each day as survival but now we have survived and i need to start moving on to being positive about the future. When you have a newborn the first weeks you can't see past how things have changed. But i am seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. This month i am going to do more things with DD, any enjoy my family.

Now i have just crap on to your craping on..:laughing:better go the microwave is calling me..

[k2ma]

Would somebody PLEASE sleep long enough for me to eat lunch before bedtime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hair:
Neither of the younger two have slept today and the eldest is just home from kindy...everyone is tired and grumpy. Bliss.

I am eating my lunch in stages. I had the bread roll about two hours ago, just ate the ham now...not looking forward to the spread stage!:p

All i have managed today is to hold a baby!:thumbsup:

[k2ma]

but i am staying positive!!:p










2hours til DH gets here....i just have to get through 2 hours.

[bootiful]

Anyone else's B/F baby only poo once a week?

:no:nope...i get a few poos a day, getting less now.


Even cooler that he slept NINE AND A HALF HOURS LAST NIGHT. WHAT THE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7pm til 4:30am... he extended from his 3:30 wakeup. Is that OK???? I think he'd wake if he was hungry. I wasn't purposely holding back the food but he's the one that wakes us up.

Congrats Nic. That's fantastic to hear. Its is perfectly normal as they get older to sleep longer. Nicole slept from 11 till 6.45am.


After taking a step back from my situation, and loosin the plot again yesterday, and some advice from a friend, i have realised i got to stop being so negaitve and feelin sorry for myslef.

good for you hun!


I went to myer this morning and bought some cute Sprout outfits - I love sprout. SOME of pumpkin patch ranges I like - but recently I like sprout heaps more. Thanks Mr Rudd - I just spent $141.00 of your bonus - only $759 left. (straight on the credit card unfortunately!)

Sprout stuff is too cute hey.

My bonus payment is going on my CC too cause i spent up big on kids clothes last week.



I am eating my lunch in stages. I had the bread roll about two hours ago, just ate the ham now...not looking forward to the spread stage!:p

:laughing: i don't eat my lunch till either both kids are in bed, one is sleeping and one on the boob or both are quiet.

AFM - I made some cupcakes today and sent an mms to DH to entice him to come home earlier..let's see if it works.

I am also sending my Booby Bibs back as I leaked right through them :( i really thought id found something that works but apparently i got wayyy too much milk.

And to everyone else Helllooooooo there..hope your all well!:wave:

[Shell31]

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Back later or tomorrow to do personals :D

Rachelle x

[beck75]

Hi All

I have to say that everyones photos are very cute! Will have to update mine over next few days.

Well I have both kids in bed. Dh is yet to come back from hockey training and I am enjoying an ice cream while looking through my emails which is bliss!

Well aren't you all doing well with the night time sleep! Not so good here but I am OK. Jake will often do one 6 hour stint (which is usually the first one) then he is up every 2 - 3 hours for a feed as he is during the day. DD didn't start sleeping all the way through regularly until she was 12 months old when I went to work and she went off the boob onto the bottle. I believe my supply is the issue but what I have is good and they grow like mushrooms - they just have to feed often!

I am jealous about the shopping! Trying here to live just on DHs wage as much as possible but not going so well so no shopping for me at the moment. ALso have DH and my birthdays this month which makes it expensive.

Oh and good on you all for being positive. I am pretty positive - have my bad days but generally pretty good. Jake is just such a beautiful baby - the 2 year old is more stressful!! As much as I love seeing my little man grow up I am a bit sad seeing it happen - I wasn't like that so much with DD as she was a difficult baby. Also this will likely be it for our family now.

Has anyone with toddlers had any issues? When DD plays up she will sometimes hit Jake in the head really hard (usually when I am feedig him and once in the shopping trolley when he was asleep in his capsule) - I am sure this is common but I really don't want her to really hurt him. In between being a devil she can be really helpful and nice (its that split personailty thing):hair:!

As for eating - I seem to be eating all the time.....maybe I have it too easy?

With the rotavirus injection my nurse advised to make sure you wash up well and bag up any poos etc for 2 weeks as it was a live vaccine but didn't say anything about kisses or feeding. With DD I paid for the vaccinations as it wasn't yet on the schedule and the doc didn't really no much about it so had no warnings - did nothing different and none of us got sick - I think general hygene is the key.

As for poos - Jake does several a day. His surgeon said that newborn poos vary so much from after every feed to one every 10 days - all is normal unless the baby is showing other signs of sickness so I wouldn't be too worried (he was the one who operated on Jakes bowel so I take him as a bit of an expert in baby poos)!

As for going out we have been out quite a bit as we have to. With DD it took a while to get confident to go our but this time taking it in my stride (with a few unfortunate moments)! It is all part of it and those who are unsure will get used to it soon. SOme things I have found I like - a baby capsule can sit across a trolley while a toddler sits in the seat (although baby is in reach as per my earlier hitting comment) oh and a Strolli Rider is the best invention ever!

Well I have to run as I want to go and watch Life on Mars (whichI heard has been axed and will only have one season but I still like it - I guess at least things will happen quickly). Anyway I am sure you all agree I have rambeld enough!

Take care everyone.

[Shell31]

Hi Girls,

Hubby is watching Life on Mars like you Becks & he was devestated when I mentioned what you'd said about it being axed lol

So Today has been ok.. Brooke was home crook with the vomiting still but was well enough tonight for a plain old vegimite sanger for dinner. Wasnt game to give her anything else.
Daisy has pretty much been a dream today. Gosh Im so smitten with her. She is so aware & alert now. It melts me to see Aaron pick her up & talk to her while she is smiling away & coooooing at him. Her latest when she isnt starving & is having a top up feed is to crack her neck to look at her sisters or brother while I'm feeding her.. Or she looks up at me & gives me a big old grin.. awww Its abit cute to have her big old gummy grin open wide around my boob :D
Thanks for all the tips on stuff for Theo's skin. I've bought some wash from the chemist to try called Aveena or something.. Its an oatmeal type wash.. See how it goes.. also have to moisturise him so am trying him on Daisy's massage cream which is the Johnson's soothing naturals meant to be safe for Xma lol @ Xma.. I so can't be bothered looking up how to spell it properly..
The pots I potted last week are starting to grow over the side of the pots & flower... YAY.. I love watching things grow. I mowed the back lawn today & hosed down my beautiful newly stained deck.. It looks great. Played some footy out the back with the kids & Aaron. Had to hold Theo's "Cream cone" (ice cream) a few times so he could have a kick :laughing: He's Ronaldo in the making that boy!!!!

Personals... ???? dare I try after rambling on so much??? Im feeling so mushy & full of lurv tonight.. good thing the tubes are tied :p

lol Angel @ you enticing DH with the cupcakes. I do that.. hence the dinner photo the other night..

K2MA - I'm convinced we have bad days solely so we appreciate the good days.. Hell I forgot to eat lunch at all until like 3pm today lol :hugs:

Nicky - How is the new machine? did you sew all night?? Your not here so I bet your sewing your little butt off.. Pics please.. If there are no pics it didnt happen :p

Cordelia - lol @ DD and the herbs.. its usually my little pug that uproots all my new plants.. replant & smile. She was out of your hair for 5mins while she done the deed lol

Bubs - omg William is so so cute.. I LOVE seeing his photo's. He is a real dude with that hair going on lol

Tracy - :hugs: Your post is the best I've heard here for a long time.. Thanks for making us all pull our heads in & look forward.. Proud of you. gave me a kick up the butt too...

K going to feed Daisy now.. Will check in tomorrow..

Rachelle xx

[Nickimumto1]

Hi to all,

Just a quick post befor going to bed. I did get my overlocker, will post pics and am wearing a pair of pants that i made. Sorry Shell will not post pics as then you will see my flabby belly, that prevents me from wearing any of my other clothes.

Re: finances, I bought an overlocker becuase Mr Rudd told me to, Ok. That what i said to DH. But we will have to be carefull with anyother purchases as we just got a new laptop too.

Re: Toddlers - Meaghan will be 3 in May and she has been quite good. A friend at playgroup with a daughter Meaghans age said that her daughter use to hit her baby brother in the car when she was not getting her own way as it ment that mum had to stop the car. It has passed now for her, so maybe give it time. Sorry i could not be of more help.

Better get to bed ..

[Bexta]

Shell - Can you put the ti-tree mattress in the cot to start? Not sure about the poo situation... both my boys poo every damn nappy change!!! At least 4 times a day! The pics of Daisy are gorgeous!!!

Nicki - clever you for making a sling! I love the HAB... but I agree on the retarded thing!!! :laughing: I feel the same doing it in the carpark.

M2M - that was an awesome sleep! I have only just mastered the pram... we got a P&T Vibe & I only just folded it with the toddler seat yesterday for the 1st time... I impressed myself :laughing:

Muminwaiting - how awful that Holly is so sick. :hugs: I hope she improves soon. I love the PP online store... what's the code? ;)

Beck - my 1st DS started to sprout teeth at 6 weeks. This one seems to be holding off which I like as DS1 is getting his 2yo molars & 1 teething boy is enough atm :rolleyes:. I'm on a strict budget at the moment too.

Angel - my DH snores sooooo loud. It's awful!!! He never used to, waited until after the ring was firmly on the finger :rolleyes:. Oh, & I made cupcakes yesterday!

Cords - love the pic!!! 9 1/2 hours! Bliss!!! Love your last post.. so positive, love your outlook!

Tracy - I found I was spending WAY too much time on the computer... I set myself a limit but now I'm breastfeeding I can get away with being on here a bit more. Big hugs.

Bubsno1 - William is a lil spunk!!! Love his hair!!! Awwwwwww...

K2MA - I have the opposite problem... I eat ALL day long.

AFM - well I had an accident with our laptop yesterday... I spilt a whole cup of coffee on it!!! DH got out the old dinosour of a desk top from under the house for me to use... so at least I'm onilne. Nothing interesting to say... GEEZ I'M BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[k2ma]

Shell - Daisy is gorgeous...I hope Brooke is feeling better.

I am waiting for my household stimulus payment...hope they have not forgotten me! I went to do the shopping last night and had a little browse around window shopping what we could get.

Life on Mars - this ran on the ABC a while ago the UK version so if the other one is axed I can tell you the ending :D but I shall wait until we know...don't want to spoil it for everyone else.

Nicki - I am so impressed that you can sew...I am seamstressly challenged. BUttons are the extent of my repertoire.

Angel - hope your cupcakes were successful in enticing DH home.

RIght - need to get organized. AM going to a morning tea today. Don't want to be late:wave:

[Ashi]

Okay im back and this time i think i might get to reply!!! lol

Well first ill give u all my very first POO incident!
just the other day i was reading peoples poo/puke stories thinking hmm i dont really have one

WELL i tempted fate..

i was over at my mums and we where going to go down to the mall, fed isabelle and burped her n she did a poo so i thought better change that b4 we go (she HATES being dirty or wet) so i changed her n between the old nappy going out and the new one going under she started to poo again.. and i was like omg its going on the change mat!! so mum went to grab some tissues to clean it up
and just as she walked into the room a tidal wave of poo sprayed out all over me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it was on isabelles legs it was on the change mat it was on the carpet, my foot, my pants and my top!!!!!!!! OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
i couldnt believe my eyes lol, we franticly tried to clean it up while isabelle lay there happily mooshing her legs around in it!!!!!!!!

needless to say i ended up in the shower with isabelle while my mum washed my clothes.. and i then sat around the loungeroom in a towel for an hour while my clothes dried LOL..

Other than that Isabelle has been an angel :bee: shes started sleeping a bit longer at night, last night we got from 11 30 (when we all went to bed as we co sleep) till 5 30! yay fed her then n went back to still till DP's alarm went off at 7 30 it was rather nice :goodvibes:

Cords omgosh @ the plants being pulled up :( Glad your feeling postive and happy tho good to hear! p.s Daniels smily picture is gorgeous!

K2ma lol i hear ya on the food thing.. i hardly ever get time to eat during the day.. and usually i eat my dinner cold!.. i guess it gets better one day.. haha

Re: Pooing Isabelle usually only does one every few days apparently its normal in breastfed babies.

Angel that sucks about the booby bibs i was thinkin about getting some.. but after your comments i think ill just stick with what i do atm which is sleep with a cloth nappy on my chest lol..

Shell what cute pics! shes so cute, lil redhead hehe she even has orange eyebrows! she looks so grown sitting up in that chair!!

Re:Toddlers I'm so glad i dont have one.. i dont think i could cope with anything less independant than my 7Yr old.. -hugs- to everyone having toddler troubles.

Re:Going out.. well we go out EVERYDAY..! ugh
because im the family taxi...... lol (DP dosent drive:gloomy:) every morning i take haley to school then drop DP at work, then back out at 3 to pick haley up again, then off again at 5 to pick DP up again.. weekends are marginly quieter as DP dosent work and theres no school, but we usually end up going out for something or other

So i guess im pretty used to going out all the time, i envy those of you who dont have 2! lol

Bexta omg that sucks about your laptop! is it fixable? fingers crossed it is and dosent cost 2 much to fix!

Re: Mr Rudd money I dont know if i will even get it as i didnt have to put a tax return in as i have never worked.. lol when are people ment to get it? some of u sound like u already have
well that sucks! lol bummer

MIW LOL @ Pumpkin patch addiction, I love their stuff i got a few things from there last month.. this month DP had to get new glasses and then we ended up havin to take our cat for an emergency run to the vet that cost us a few hundred so im not allowed to go shopping this month.. :( (DP works for the government so he gets paid monthly.. very annoying.. lol)

Hi to Tracy, Nicki, M2M, Justmum, Fugs and Bubs#1 (Williams pic is super cute btw!)
and anyone else i forgot! hope your all doing well
XoxoX Ashley

(wow that was a mammoth post..)

[Shell31]

Thanks everyone for the comments about Daisy. She is abit cute :cloud9:

Stella poo story Ashi !!! Nice work Izzy :laughing: Yep Daisy is abit of a wranger!! It's coming through all silver underneath now so who knows. All the other kids are blonde but I have to admit mine is a golden blonde & my Poppy was a gingernut. I love her hair it has so many colors in it in the sunshine. Can't believe you guys get by with only one car. We couldn't do that in a pink fit as DH is a shiftworker & we actually don't all fit in one car anyways. We are going to get a tarago when money permits.

K2MA - I'm also sewing impaired. Hand sewing I can do.. Machines.. Yeh no they start doing foot long stitches when I sit at them. I havent received my payment either yet. What things are you looking to buy? It's our wedding anniversary on Monday so I was hoping to be able to spend some of it on Aaron. The rest will go on airfares for his daughters to visit Easter school holidays.

Bexta - Didnt think about putting the mattress in the cot. Good idea. Failing that we have a foam cot mattress that is squishier then the innerspring so I could use that & make the transition slow. I reckon she'll be fine I'm probably being a worry wart lol. :eek: @ your laptop. Hope is fixable. I was thinking about getting another lappy, my old one has seen better days & is incredibly slow & unreliable. We have wireless in our home but can't really enjoy the benefits as we need to stay plugged into power.

Nicki - Can't believe you've made pants already. HUGE effort. Does the machine do all kinds of fancy stitches? The lady across the road showed me some cot blankies & Bibs etc she had made for her new grandchild & bugger me if the stitches weren't actually a vine with flowers. Good god the things they can do these days.

AFM - Daisy went to bed at 7.30pm last night. I didnt like our chances as she fluffed around in there abit but she usually settles eventually it just sometimes takes a couple times of going back in & replugging her. I got her up for a dreamfeed at 11pm & she slept until 6am this morning. She's done that every night this week except for the night she had her needles & woke up at 3am for a feed. I'm wrapped with that routine I can tell you :yes:
Theo was crying when we come inside last night from playing outside with the footy. I just thought he was whinging about coming in but Aaron looked at his foot & he had a thorn in there. We spent ages trying to get it out with tweezers & then a needle eeeeeeek He was such a good boy (Maybe the endless supply of lollies shoved in his mouth by DD1 helped with that) anyways we couldnt get it out. He got up this morning & he was limping. We checked his foot out & he actually has 5 teeny little thorns in there :no:. Poor boy. Went to the chemist & got some of that black drawing ointment which I will put on when he gets home from daycare. Brookies all better & back at school today. She had a funrun on at the beach today. DH is at work.. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK its his first afternoon shift since "Hell night" when I gave Daisy some formula. It will be interesting to see how she goes tonight. Maybe I"m a stresshead when he's not here to help???

Anyways, Was going to hit the shops before I had to pick Theo up from daycare but Daisy was unsettled & only just fell asleep. Not going to wake her up now will just enjoy some me time.

Hello to everyone else who has been quiet over the last page or two.
Rachelle xx

[muminwaiting]

Ok I will start with us first...

Holly's brace is off Whoooooo Hooooooo!!!!!!:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedan ce::smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance: (worth 6 smilies)

We just got back from the ultrasound and I rang the Paed with the results and she said take it off....Holly is on the floor beside me just as happy as she can be, kicking her legs and smiling away....

Bexta The code for pumpkin patch sale is AUES9MAR, it ends tonight at midnight...

Re Stimulas payment... We get the tax office payment one but we don't get the one from Centrelink, in fact I get bugger all from Centrelink because I worked for 5mths before I had Holly..and even though I am unemployed now and DH only earns $40k , we don't count as a single income family...I have a friend who has 4 kids and she got $4000 at Xmas and is now getting $7200 for the stimulas, Which is just wrong as far as I am concerned...sorry maybe a bit if the old green eyed monster happing here.

I'm off to give Holly a bath, I have really missed bathing her....

[Bexta]

:smiliedance::smiliedance:YAY HOLLY!!!:smiliedance::smiliedance:

[Cordelia]

Woohoo!! Go Holly, go holly go! fantastic news :) :yelclap:

Shell - awesome photos!! so cute! thankyou! more! what a great sleep you got last night!! I'm sure it will repeat itself tonight - dont' stress!!

beck - sounds like sibling rivalry - good luck with that! we haven't had any hitting as such just some pushing and "go aways" teehee....

nicki - you already made pants??? I dont even know what an overlocker does haha... i think it's something to do with the edges of the materials??? MIL is an avid sewer and has given me her old sewing machine whcih i tried a few times but got frustrated with working out how to put the thread through! hhe.. i admire you because it's such a handy skill to have.

bexta - bummer about the laptop!! I've heard you're supposed to pour water over it and then stick it on the sun so it dries quickly (and doens't rust) or you can buy some stuff to spray on it i think...

k2ma - hoep you enjoyed your morning tea :P

Ashi - sorry, I know you dont want to hear this - but I thought your poo story was hilarious!!!! haha... poor you!!! I'm just so glad it happened to someone else!! [touch wood] teeehehehe

MIW - the way they work out people's eligibility sucks. we woudl have got 3 payments of $9000 but because I didn't work last financial year it's stuffed. And people who have just graduated and started working this year will miss out (my sister) and why shouldnt' they get it? stupid.

ME! Daniel's sleep wasn't quite so good last night. he went to bed at 8 and woke at 2 so i was SO NAUGHTY... i went and put his dummy in and he slept for another 2 hours. I figured if he really was hungry he wouldnt have gone to sleep. I'm attempting to give him an afternoon sleep now so that i can keep him awake after the next feed to bedtime but he's in there talking away to himself.

He is starting to "squeal" with pleasure - do you know what I mean? When do they start laughing??? I forget!!! I thoght DD didn't start til around 7 months????? Maybe not. But it says in my "purple book" they should be by 3-4 months. hrmm....

so so so so so so so so so cute at this age. Can we just press pause. i dont want him to get bigger and more wise. I like him just the way he is!!!

He's not going to go sleep by the sound of things so I might go munch his ears off... mmm!!!

[honeydew]

Hi girls

MIW- the dress you sent for Layla arrived today- THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! It's so gorgeous! I wish we were going out somewhere today so I could put it on her :D When she wears it I will take a pic to show you. (you have very neat handwriting BTW!).

Shell- absolutely gorgeous pics of Daisy! Gosh Theo is just beautiful as well, makes me so clucky for another little boy :goodvibes:

Tracy- I loved your post about being more positive. I really think I need to do the same thing. As someone else said, up till now I've just been in survival mode but its now time to get on with things and start getting some organisation back into my life. Have you got anymore updates on your visa situation?

[honeydew]

Oops I hit 'post' before I'd finished...

Well done Holly!!! I'm so happy for you both MIW :D

Love the poo story Ashi :laughing: I think that one takes the cake!!

Toddlers- Mason has started hitting Layla as well when he's not getting his own way :( We had done so well up till now with no jealousy or anything like that. I have been making an effort to give him extra cuddles and letting him be mummy's extra special helper (never very 'helpful' mind you :rolleyes:) and he seems a bit better. I let him hold Layla and help give her a bottle the other night which was really nice and he was so proud of himself.

What is this code thingo for PP? Do you get stuff cheaper or something? I had no idea about it :detective:

How do you do a dreamfeed? I don't think I would be able to do it without waking Layla completely (esp since we stuff around on the boob and then give a bottle afterwards).

Cordelia- this morning Layla woke at 4 and I put the dummy back in just while I went to the loo before feeding her, but when I got back she was asleep again and slept through till 6! Definately worth a try if it means more sleep, and I agree with you if they are hungry they would still demand a feed.

There was so much more I was going to reply to but have had 2 phonecalls while trying to type this and they've thrown me right out lol.

Managed to get some photos uploaded onto photobucket without it shutting down my internet-

At BP Dam (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF2041.jpg)
Layla (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF2005.jpg)
Smiling (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF2009.jpg)
Snuggling in bed (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF2065.jpg)
Again (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF2066.jpg)
Admiring her toys (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF1996.jpg)

:D

[Nickimumto1]

Hello to all,

Have not done much today, went and got a small amount of groceries. Am trying Tony Ferguson again, lost 15kg on it before my wedding. So i just got to drink my lunch :laughing:, need to loose 10 kg so i can fit into my clothes. I am also back with my gym membership but i have not had the chance to go yet.

Muminwaiting - woo hoo about Holly's hips. It must be so fun to see her kicking her legs without any restriction. An all the nice clothes that she can wear.

Re Stimulas payment - I think that we will get one. I also worked before Liam was born. But i have told centerlink that i am not working. So that would make us a single income family? right? I don't know how centerlink works, tried calling them the other day, but could not get through. Hope that we do, if not hope that we can fix it at tax time.

Shell31 - I can't do fancy stiches, SIL has one of the machines that does, payed well over $2000 for it. I cant justify that money. I just have a second hand machine and have waited 3 years to get an overlocker and it was just the base model. I refuse to buy new clothes, cost so much, when i can make them. The pants cost me $25.00 to make and the other pair using the same pattern will cost about $15.00.

Sleeping - We have not had as much luck with the sleeping, last night Liam woke at 3:30am and again at 6am. Hope we do better tonight.

Better go Liam is crying..

[Shell31]

:smiliedance: YAY HOLLY !!!!!! :smiliedance: So happy the brace is finally off. Would have been the longest weeks of both of your lives I'd say. lol @ her kicking around.. How wonderful. I got all tears reading your post lol.. Pics out of the brace plllllllllllllease :D

M2M - YAY Layla has a double chin.. hahah how cute is she and Mason looks so so proud holding her. She really is blossoming Haylie. Well done. Daisy has that EXACT same spotty pink romper lol

Nicky - Hope you get more sleep tonight. If all else fails maybe the sewing machine drone will put him to sleep lol..

Cordelia - I've replugged.. I usually only do it when Im sure she isnt hungry i.e just been fed & trying to settle.. ORRRRR in the middle of the night lol He'd wake up if he was famished believe me. Dont get me wrong. I'd feed if she screaming but I'm getting good at knowing the I'm hungry cry & the I'm stirring cry...

Stimilus payment - I am getting some money. $950 on Monday. Although I have two school age children my ex husband & I share custody so we also share the payments :D. I am not working at the moment but I'm pretty sure we are not considered a single income family as I did work for part of the year & therefore have an estimated income with Centrelink for this financial year. Don't forget in April anyone who earnt up to $80k will get $900 each. I'm so thankful for any help we can get as we really do struggle. Seem to always be chasing our tails with our mortgage, flights, 2 cars and 6 children between us :rolleyes: Wouldnt change it for the world though...

[honeydew]

Layla and I decided to play dress-ups :D

HERE (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF2084.jpg)she is in the dress MIW sent her :cloud9:

And HERE (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r75/Haylie_Anne/2009/DSCF2085.jpg)she is relaxing after all that hard work modelling cute clothes.

I have figured out that for photobucket to work for me I need to upload only one photo at a time :rolleyes:

[muminwaiting]

Thanks everyone, we are pretty happy here..Gave Holly an extra long bath she was having so much fun splashing about it tuckered her out and she is out like a light now.:D

M2M - Glad the parcel made it to you, I really loved that little outfit. Cant wait to see your gorgeous Lyala in it.:yes: Love the photos sooooo cute

PP sale: I subscribe to their emails so when they are having an online sale they send me an email and sometimes they give you a code which gives you an extra discount...this time around it is another 10% off....

Nikki - You need to be receiving Family Tax Benefit part B to get the payment from Centrelink...They also pay a school kid bonus of $950 for each child aged between 4-16 at school, you only need to be receiving part A to get that one.

[muminwaiting]

M2M- You posted pics as I was typing.. She looks sooo cute in the dress...just gorgeous :D:yes:

[k2ma]

I am very excited - I met Angel today at the morning tea! I have never knowingly met anyone from bubhub before! Now I can put a face to the name:D

All the photos are just beautiful I wish I were able to get photothing to work for me. Perhaps I shall ask DH to try this weekend. I am always so baffled by these things at first.

:smiliedance:for Holly. Happy bathing...she must be so happy to be able to kick freely.

I think I have to wait for my stimulus payment til the end of the tax year...bother. AH well, can't miss what you didn't have.
I was hoping to get winter shoes for the boys and a few winter clothes for them too...we moved south from sunny north last year and are very low on warm stuff!
I would also like to get frames for the photos we had taken in January and I would like to get my hair done...(vanity, thy name is K2ma!)
I saw a luverly cardi in Witchery last night, but even with a stimulus payment I really don't think I can justify $200 for one item of clothing. Meh, I shall have to do practical stuff like insure the car and so forth.:rolleyes:

Toddlers - so far so good on that point, though there is a bit of tantruming when I feed Lucas. Other than that they are reasonably accepting of his presence!

Can't think of anything else to report. Have a good day.

[tracynben]

ill try n post to as many as i can, but my brain is mashed and i dont remember much at the mo lol.

STIMULUS - i dunno if we get it or not cos we arent residents, but my auntie who use to work for the tax office and now works for centrelink, said we will get the tax one in april, i should get 900 and dp will get 600, we wont get the centrelink one though unless we get our residency quickly.

M2M - as regards to my visa we still waiting for jaydens passport, its been about 5 weeks now, my mum sent her passport a week ago now, so im hopin sometime next week it will come through then we can finally send the application off.

K2MA - i got the sling today, thanks very much, im sure it will come in handy eps at bedtimes when im tryin to deal with them both.

MIW - yay to holly, bet u are sooooo happy.

thats all i can really remember at the mo, i know jayden will wake soon for a feed, its been 4 hours, but hes still asleep.

As for stickin dummy in at night time, i do it every night, most nights it gives me between 1-3 hours longer, and if he really was hungry he would spit it out and cry, last night was the longest, 7pm-4am yay, he did wake twice but i quickly put the dummy in.
Hes sleepin and eatin better now, just writing down his daily things so i can see what pattern is comin along, and then i can finally try and get bens sleep issued sorted.
Hes starting to get really tired, etcc all the time now, sometimes hes only get 10 hours sleep the whole day n nite.
Luckily he hasnt tried to hit jayden yet, he actually just wants to hold n cuddle him but u never know waht will happen.
Last nite he managed to tipple over his cupboard which fell on him (he was tryin to turn the cd off in his room), luckily he wasnt injured but it totally messed bedtime up again after i spent ages gettin him relaxed etc arghhhhh.

tracy xxxxx

[Shell31]

Awwww look at little Layla.. She is a treasure. lol @ you guys playing dress ups !!! Cute...

My SMS buddy Brum sent Daisy a gift today. How sweet is that...We sent Oakleigh something little when he was born but omg @ what she sent.... Its the most beautiful Pumpkin Patch dress & knicker set for her to wear next summer. I've never purchased anything from Pumpkin patch :no:. I LOVE their clothes but we don't have a store here & the clothes are so expensive. Maybe I should go online & check out this clearance store.
Brum made it into Sydney ok for the wedding on the weekend. Oakleigh was a legend on the plane :D

Back later

[k2ma]

No probs tracy - hope it does help. Hope you get what I meant about the 'twisting'!:thumbsup:

[muminwaiting]

Just a quick post from me, here are some photos taken today as requested

Doesn't she look so happy to be out of her harness

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/muminwaiting/P3130505.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm224/muminwaiting/P3130515.jpg

Have a great night ladies with plenty of sleeping bubs.

[Shell31]

Awwww MIW Holly is adorable.. How cute is she sitting up in that little chair thingy and she's just staring away at you with so much love in her eyes in the bath. Can't half tell she is Mummy's girl there.. Thank you she made me smile. She's changed alot too.. Looking very very healthy & happy to be free of the harness.. :D

[Ashi]

awww yay for holly getting out of her harness she looks gorgeous! and wow @ her sitting up in that bumbo!! i dont think isabelle could hold her self enough for one of those yet but it looks like a great idea!

[justmum]

yay MIW gosh she's a gorgeous wee thing! She does look so so happy and who can blame her??

BTW Olive had her 6 week hip scan today and we are all good.

[Bexta]

Geez... go away for 5 minutes & it take 1/2 hour to read all the posts!!! So hard to keep up.


M2M - Layla looks sooooooo cute in the pics!

MIW - Love the look in Holly's eyes during the bath... Nawwwwww. Might have to get our Bumbo out of storage.

k2ma - Funny meeting BHers irl for the 1st time... I meet up with some every Thursday & I couldn't imagine life without them :flowerz:.

Tracy - I'm suffering brain mash too :D. Hope the sling helps! I actually breastfed in mine today... his head didn't look too comfy, but he still fed so couldn't have been too bad! :)

Shell - wow... a lovely gift!!! Enjoy :yes: (pics please)

Oh well... off to bed! This is the latest I've stayed up for AGES!!! Expressed so I could have a drinky-poo & enjoying being up alone (DH piked) on the computer.... ahhh peace. Lets just hope I don't regret it tomorrow!!!!!!!!!! :laughing:

Have a great weekend everyone!!! :hugs:

[bootiful]

hi guys

sorry i wasn't on yesterday, had a very busy day. i had my post natal meeting @ kemh (where i saw k2ma again, didn't realise we took the vbac classes together :D) so was good to catch up with her again, then i came home and moved the furniture in the lounge room around AGAIN...yeah yeah i know im insane, but its finally where we want it...even DH was impressed when he came home.

Okay, personals time..here goes...

Shell31 - luv the photos of Daisy, very cute. The cupcakes didn't work enticing DH home, he still rocked up at 6.45pm :(

beck75 - not having toddler issues towards bubs, but she is acting out a bit more than usual esp when im bf cause she knows i can't get up, so she will stand there and agrue with me, cheeky $h!t she is.

Nickimumto1 - PMSL a KRudd telling you to buy an overlocker.

Bexta - how do you get to sleep with your DH snoring? i have kinda learnt to sleep through it most days, but when im not too tired or my insomnia is playing up it's hell and im up all night!

Crap bout yoru laptop, i killed my ages ago and still haven't gotten round to getting another one, I have main desktop and hijack DH's laptop now and then.

Hope you enjoyed your drink, I still haven't had one since before I fell pregs, maybe next special occasion. Mind you in only missing baileys :p

k2ma - stimulus money - they have started paying it so shouldn't be long. Was great to finally meet lucas, and i saw you leaving the hospital with Percy and Archie, they are too cute! What a perfect little family!

Ashi - :laughing: bout the poofest...sorry to laugh but i can imagine here kicking happily round in it, they love doing that don't they!

The booby bibs are good if you don't leak a litre of milk a night like I do. They are good in giving me a refund because they didn't work for me, so nothing lost there.

muminwaiting - congrats on Holly getting her brace off, didn't seem all that long ago she got it on, time goes too quick! Glad you enjoyed bathing her. The photos are great. Happy bubbas all round!

Cordelia - too cute bout Daniel squealing, its so nice when they start making noises. Nic is starting to talk to us now, making all kinds of noises.

Mummy to Mason - Layla looked very pretty in her dress.

I haven't done a dreamfeed yet cause Nic wakes up when she is hungry and I don't wake her.

tracynben - Glad Jayden wasn't hurt when his cupboard fell on him, kids, they try to get everything grrrr.

justmum - congrats again on the scan being all good!

Well, this post has taken me over 2 hours to do and I really should go to the markets and take the kids to the park, chat to you all later...bye xoxo

[Shell31]

Aww hey JustMum.. was only thinking of you last night. So glad Olive's hips are ay ok. How's she going otherwise?

Tracy - Gosh.. Can't believe Ben pulled the cupboard over on himself.. that would have been so frightening. So lucky he didnt hurt himself.

How was the head this morning Bexta?


Question.. Did you express over a few days & just feed EBM for the last night feed so you could have a drink? Its our wedding anniversary next week & we are going to get the kids minded & head out for dinner. I"d love to have a couple of drinks but am not sure about the best way around that. I was thinking feed before we go out so around 7.30pm then put her to bed & have Mum give her a bottle of EBM at about 11 (Dreamfeed) if we aren't home. I will pump & dump when I get home. Would I be ok the next morning for her? Or if she woke up during the night say at 4am or something :confused:

AFM - Daisy slept all night again.. its become a lovely routine that works so well for us all. She woke abit earlier today then the usual but I still say if the birds are chirping rather then the crickets its an all night sleep lol. Was about 5.30am so not too bad. DH is on nightshift again tonight & tomorrow. Mum's taken DD2 for a sleep over so just Daisy, Theo & Jamie to amuse while Aaron sleeps tomorrow. We will head down to Mum's & I'll take them all to the lake. Should be fun :D

One of Theo's thorns in his foot came out this morning.. 1 down, 4 to go :no:

We put our shade sail up today. I love it. Looks awesome. Other then that I've cleaned up & spent about an hour & a half on the net playing with my AFL dreamteam lol Aaron and a few of our friends are all in it. I will probably flunk out as Im relatively new to this AFL business only having found it when I married a Melbourne boy :laughing: Well I'm going to go sit down & chill while everyone is asleep.

Hello to all the lurkers.. :p Hope you're all smiling & enjoying the sun today. It's beautiful here today.

PS - Hi angel.. you posted while I did lol

[honeydew]

Hi girls

Tracy- Mason pulled Layla's chest of drawers on top of him this morning, must be a boy thing lol. I think what happened was he opened all the drawers at once and it fell forward. DH thinks he probably tried to climb it but I can't imagine him doing that because he's a bit wussy (sorry Mason but its true :p). Anyway, clothes and blankets were EVERYWHERE but luckily it hit the cot when it fell forward so he wasn't squashed underneath it. He was so upset and ran into his bed under the sheet sobbing and wouldn't let me cuddle him. Poor thing.

JM- that's great news about Olive's hips!

MIW- awww Holly is so beautiful! And she does look VERY happy now she is free from the harness. Look at her looking up at you with those gorgeous big eyes :cloud9:

angel- lol @ moving furniture around again. Sometimes it takes a few goes until you have it exactly as you want it. I'm sure when we move to our new house I'll be changing furniture around every 2nd day until I get it looking 'right'. Hope you had fun at the markets.

Shell- my DH is on nightshift as well tonight :thumbsdown: Hate it. It's so lonely and since he leaves at 4:45pm I have to do the bath, dinner, feed baby, read stories, change nappies etc routine on my own which I hate cause I can't handle chaos LOL. Good on Daisy for sleeping all night!

Bexta- how are you feeling today? :p

Ok thats as far back as I can read when I scroll down and my memory doesn't stretch further than what is right in front of my face :o

We had a good night- Layla and I went to bed at 8:45pm, she woke at 4am so I gave her the dummy while I went to the loo, came back and she was asleep and slept through till 6am :yelclap: I thank the lord for dummies.... was never going to give her one but its been wonderful in helping her settle. Of course if she was hungry I would feed her instead of shoving the dummy back in her mouth again and again but she obviously isn't hungry if she is falling back to sleep straight away.

Haven't got a lot done today because I am feeling frustrated trying to get anything done with Mason following me around messing it up straight away again. May as well not bother! When he wakes from his nap we might do something fun together, maybe some baking or something.

[bootiful]

back again :D

we went to the fruit and vege markets and bought $40 worth then to the meat market and bought $60 worth..where does money go:confused:

after we went for a long drive to the airport and watched a plane come in from the side...then from underneath really close, steph loved it, it was really loud.

Then we came home put the stuff away then went to the park for and hour and had Red Rooster for dinner:D

All up a lovely day and I'm knackered:sleeping:

[BellyFruit]

:wave: everyone - i swear i start every post now with "wow i just cant keep up" but it's true!

wont even attempt personals i'm sorry - i feel so outta the loop and i hate that because during our pregnancies i was on literally 6 times a day at work and loved that... i dont have anything to offer re BFing as i'm new to it this time, and not much to say about toddlers as my babies are now 6!

i do read in here all the time though and love all the photos and reading what everyone is up to

i just take whatever each day throws at me with chace - still 3-4hrly feeds sometimes 5 hrs at night... certainly not sleepin through!

oooh our home delivered indian take out is here so must go...

i saw someone ask before but are people doing naming ceremonies/baptisms?? we're having chace baptised soon... he'll wear the gown i wore, and one of my boys wore aw.... :p...

take care

tmd x :flowerz:

[tracynben]

hi everyone
just a quick post from me for now.
Ben pulled the cupboard on himself in his room, jayden wasnt there , thank god.
Wetook his cd player out for now so he wont pull the cupboard down again.
We still havin problems with ben sleep but luckily he had a nap today and hes not cryin today, he cried on and off for over an hour last night, i know its an attention and overtired cry so thats why i dont respond to him cos it makes him worse, hopefully gradually things will get better when he realises we not gonna respond to him and he will get bord, and once we get jayden in a better routine it will be easier.

I have a problem thou with jaydens afternoon nap, i cant get him to sleep, then cos im tryin to get ben ready for bed i end up keepin jayden up he gets overtired, cos hes been awake about 3-4 hours, anyone else having a similar problem?

Recently hes been havin a short nap in the morning, cos of going out or whatever, then he catches up with early afternoon nap, and naps 3-4 hours, but maybe thats where its goin wrong , cos that nap is too long, he wakes between 3-4pm but for bedtime it seems too long to stay awake, what are others doing ??
Has anyone been doin a dreamfeed n had success, jayden can go from about 7-3/4am so im wonderin if i do a dreamfeed he will sleep till 7am.

tracy xxxx

[Shell31]

Tracy I've been doing the dreamfeed. It worked really well with me with my other bubs so brought it in with Daisy a couple of weeks ago. She usually crams feeds in from mid afternoon onwards. Today was really bad in that she fed HEAPS. I was exhausted when she finally went down about 7.30. Basically I feed her as per usual & bath her about 6.30-7pm. I top her up after the bath to calm her down (She HATES the bath :no: ) and then put her to bed. Tonight we had to go back in 4 times to replug her & stroke her face (Didnt pick her up as she was ok with face stroking etc) and she eventually drifted off. She's still asleep. So she should be due about 11.30 being 4 hrs since I've topped her up but would probably sleep longer if I let her. I dont.. I will get her up & feed her when I go to bed about 11 and she should sleep until the morning. I do that even if it was say 8.30 or 9pm when she settled for the night I might just make it a little later 11.30pm or midnight if I'm still up. Its all trial & error. One of mine, Brooke I think STILL woke up after a dreamfeed so it was pointless doing it for her. I was better off going to bed early & just getting up when she woke but all the others it worked well for..

Good luck.. I hope it works for Jayden.

TMD - ohhhhhh Indian.. Wld you believe I've never actually eaten indian food at a restaurant or take away. Is it very spicy? I dont do really hot hot food. Daisy doesnt like it when I eat the slightest bit of chilli lol So nice you still have your christening gown. Aaron's mum kept a few of his old rompers & things. My mum kept nothing lol...

Angel - Sounds like you had a great day together. Nothing like a take away on the weekend. I tried a new recipe out of the SFI magazine tonight. Was a mince, vegie & noodle stir fry thing. Nothing to rave over but fast, cheap & the kids ate it. I repotted my ponytails into larger pots today, now I have empty pots to fill. I can feel a trip to Bunnings coming on :p

M2M - Awww Poor Mason.. Your also lucky they didnt fall on him completely.. What is up with these adventurous little boys.. Another of Theo's thorns came out tonight.. WOO HOO.. 3 to go.. lol @ Mason being a wimp.. Theo has been a big old sook lately. 90% of his problem is he is tired. Aaron took he & Brooke to the beach this morning & when they got home at 12 I ducked up to coles to get bread etc for lunch and while I was gone he was apparently trying to climb into his cot, crying his eyes out with his special sheet wanting to go to sleep :confused: If we put him down too early he is beside himself by dinnertime but if we leave him too late he is over it by lunchtime. Poor boy.. How come DH has to leave so early for a n/s? What time does he start? N/S for Aaron is 10pm to 6am so its not too bad as he's here for dinner & baths etc. I HATE the afternoon shifts with a passion 2pm - 10pm.. gross.

AFM - Got my period today :crying: So not happy. 9 weeks since giving birth, fully breastfeeding & I get them back so early.. pfft.. Stupid stupid stupid...

[honeydew]

Hi girls

My night without DH has gone ok, managed to get Mason fed and into bed (well, not fed- he didn't eat the dinner I made him as per usual) and have eaten dinner myself. Both kids bathed and I have had a shower. Feels like quite an acheivement to get all that done! Just waiting for Layla to wake for another feed and then I will be off to bed with her.

Angel- I know what you mean about money, it is ridiculous how much food costs these days. We spent $280 on the weekly shop last week :eek: and we don't buy anything fancy. AND that didn't include nappies or formula.... will need to start meal planning and budgeting a little better I think. Its times like these when I think I really should stick with the mcn's...

Didi- don't worry about not keeping up, as long as you pop in and give us an update on how you are going occasionally! :hugs: We will baptise Layla as we did Mason. Its the church that DH was baptised in, his parents were baptised and married in, and his grandparents were baptised and married in... and so on. I have been wanting to organise it but we are holding out till we are in our new home (hopefully a couple of months) because we will have a BBQ thingo afterwards. Not sure about a gown- Mason wore a little white suit (he was 6 months old) so obviously she won't be able to wear that, and I was baptised when I was 7- somehow I don't think the dress will fit lol. I asked my older sister if Layla could wear her gown and she said no (:rolleyes:) so the options are to buy a new one or use the material from either my wedding dress or my mums wedding dress and have one made. Mum wants me to use her wedding dress but I'm not sure what I'll do.

Tracy- I don't have set nap times for Layla but I probably should start trying to. We have a highchair that reclines right back to almost laying position and I have a blanket thrown over that and Layla sleeps on and off in it most of the day :o I know that's bad for a number of reasons but I find it easier to be able to wheel her around where I am going and be able to keep an eye on her. After the vomitting incident where she wasn't breathing I am too paranoid to leave her in our room in the bassinette on her own (even though we have a movement monitor :rolleyes:). Maybe once she moves into her cot I will get into a better routine. I have never done a dreamfeed so can't help you there sorry.

Shell- your mention of ponytails reminded me of something Mason did not that long ago- we have (had) 2 in these lovely tree trunk pot thingys that DH made. We went out one day to see that Mason had been doing some 'gardening'- he had stripped every last leaf from them both and had neatly piled them up in the garden on the other side of the yard :laughing: There was absolutely nothing left of them. DH was so angry but I could not stop laughing because it looked so cute like he really thought he was helping. Gotta laugh at these things otherwise we'd cry! DH's nightshift is 5pm-5am- they work 12 hour shifts unfortunately. Bugger about your period! I am secretly hoping mine starts back soon as we'd like to start thinking about ttc another little one but I am very irregular and have (had?) secondary infertility after having Mason. Layla did not come easy at all (she is a fertility drug little miracle) so I don't like my chances too much of an easy conception. Poor Theo, they get so beside themselves when they are overtired don't they. Mason has been a bit the same since he's had this ear infection- the slightest thing will set him off and he will run into his room crying and want to go to bed.... strange.

Does anyone here ever go into Live Chat??

[BellyFruit]

Shell31 - go the butter chicken (it's wussy indian food!) :laughing: not spicy at all because I dont do spicy :no: - was really nice, but a bit pricey - indian always is... we were slack and paid an extra $5 to have it delivered which was a godsend rather than have to go out and get it...

Haylie - I would think it would be pretty expensive to have one made compared to maybe what you could buy a nice gown for... though the idea of wedding dress fabric is fabulous - do you have someone who could make one? You could start your own family gown tradition with it! The one we have has lace that can have ribbon threaded through it so as the occasion arises, pink or blue ribbon is threaded through to add that extra touch! Oh, and we still don't have our nursery wardrobe which we ordered before christmas - it's been caught in the christmas back log and is still weeks away apparently :mad:... I'm sooo cranky about it because we have nowhere to put all the blankets and nappies etc, so they sit on the floor or in the big cot... ruining my nursery plan that's for sure!

Chace is down to sleep now - will prob wake for a feed at 12am (I dont dreamfeed, i tried it once and he woke twice through the night anyway so might try it again a bit later...) then he'll prob be up sometime between 3am and 5am for another feed, then 6 or 7am... it's exhausting but tbh I'm just going with it, i'm happy to feed on demand at this stage... i know it'd be nice to have him sleep longer, but i feel atm he wakes because he's hungry so... though I do "replug" (lol) if i can and sometimes that does put him off for another hour or two... if he's really hungry he'll wake up properly for a feed...

going to watch underbelly on dvd with DH... woo

ps: i have the quilting bug something shocking... am borrowing MIL's sewing machine tomorrow :yelclap: I also cannot sew well, but quilting (at my beginner level) is pretty much in straight lines nothing too hard so I'm keen to give it a go without my mum's supervision! Actually, i want to make her a quilt for her birthday in May, and she can't help me with it if I wnat it to be a surprise now can she? god help me... lol!

Hi Angel, Tracy and everyone else...

TMD x

groan - Chace is up... got bad wind lately, poor bubby... gripe water no longer cutting it... will have to try something else.,,

[Cordelia]

Hi everyone,

I'm so stuffed tonight - and have read thru everyone's posts but sorry i miss something...

Sleeps - Daniel has a little sleep in the morning after his first feed of the day and then feeds at 11... and will go to sleep with DD at 12:30 for a good long sleep (eg. usually wakes up for his 3:00 feed) and then will have a little nap at around bold and the beautiful time. I wake him up at 5:30 and feed him at 6:30 (give him 50ml before this if he's hungry) and then put him to bed with DD at 7:00.
We have been leaving him to sleep til around 3:30 but tonight we are going to attempt a dreamfeed again before we go to bed. Last time he wanted to stay awake for hours. But starting to get a bit tired of the middle of the night feed so might try for a few nights again.

Alcohol - i have heard that alcohol was in your ssytem for 72 hours for breastfed babies. However some peopl esay it's ok to have a drink straight after you feed your baby and you should be right for the next feed. Others say it's better to feed your baby breastmilk after you've drunk alcohol rather than feed formula!! that sounds silly. ME!!! I would feed expressed milk that night but be back on track the next day. It's good to have an emergency supply in the freezer for emergencies!!!

Indian food - maybe express for that too :laughing: DD wasn't a fan after I'd eaten it but Daniel seemed to be allright. YUMMMMMMMMMMM mmmmmm

I'm so tired I can't think straight - watching cold feet all weekend and working in the garden. So frustrated at DH. I j sut want him to do the weeding but he just keeps starting new projects - he's ripped the garden out that's under the patio - fantastic but a) he's never going to get round to replanting anything and b) the garden that is out the side is still full of weeds and looks disgusting so dont start somethign before other things are finished
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bye :) sleep well :)

[Cordelia]

Me again!! Thought I would share this:


http://www.ngala.com.au/docs/Sleep%20Feed%20chart.pdf (http://www.ngala.com.au/docs/Sleep%20Feed%20chart.pdf)

you print it out and fill it in for a couple of days and it helps get you in a bit of a routine. Quite often you may have one and not even realise it!! But when you track yoru bub for a few days you realise that they'r ein a routine anyway. It just helps you feel more settled and confident yourself ....

(i'm going to track how many mls he's drinking each feed so i stop wasting formula!!!)

[bootiful]

hi guys

i know its very late and i should be in bed but Nicole has been so bad today, not sure if she has bad wind or is teething. She has been awake all day except for a few 5 min naps after a feed. She is kicking her little legs around and wriggling and squealing in between cries. She is drooling lots and constantly sucking on her hands. She has been on the boob all day too.

I have finally gotten her to sleep, think she has passed out from all that crying.

I'm afraid to go to sleep, even though im exhausted, incase she wakes up soon, cause i hate that feeling of just getting to sleep then waking up, it makes me feel worse than if i never have any sleep at all.



Angel - Sounds like you had a great day together. Nothing like a take away on the weekend. I tried a new recipe out of the SFI magazine tonight. Was a mince, vegie & noodle stir fry thing. Nothing to rave over but fast, cheap & the kids ate it. I repotted my ponytails into larger pots today, now I have empty pots to fill. I can feel a trip to Bunnings coming on :p


I have been makings lots of stuff out of my SFI mags too, or getting them online. I didn't make it out into the garden today, was too hot and we had people over all day. I am going to Bunnings next week, just waiting on my gift card, to get more mulch....i should get shares in bunnings for the amount I spend there :D


Its times like these when I think I really should stick with the mcn's...

Why don't you????? I love mine. The washing is easy as the machine does it, hanging it out takes 10 mins and stuffing them takes 30 mins while watching tv. Its so much fun colour co-ordinating them with her clothes and everyone I meet says how cute they are. I really feel good using them as I've read that spozzies NEVER break down in the earth so they are in landfill for life (well our lives anyways).

[BubsNo1]

:wave: my fellow January mummies!! Haven't had the chance to really get on to the computer all weekend and now I'm paying the price!! Soooooo many posts to catch up on! You ladies sure can :ecomcity:

I will attempt to do some personals for you (sorry for those that I may have missed and hello to everyone else who hasn't posted in a while) :yes:

MIW - Fantastic news that Holly is out of her braces. Both you and her must be feeling so much better!

Justmum - Glad to hear that Olive got the all clear re her hips. We have an appointment tomorrow morning to find out if William needs to have braces put on. I'm just hoping that he gets the all clear too!!

Shell - those photos of Daisy are just GORGEOUS. Keep them coming! (that goes for everyone else too :p)

Beck75 - Hope Jake had a bit better sleep for you overnight.

Nicki - Good on you for getting your overlocker. That should keep you busy. Hope that Liam is getting a bit more sleep for you.

Bexta - woops for spilling coffee on your laptop - and you're not boring! I usually have nothing to say either. That's just the way it is. I hope you enjoyed your drinks the other night.

Ashi - great poo story :laughing: (poor little Isabelle)Alas I have no poo stories here to report. So far the nappies have been catching everything.

Cordelia - sounds as though Daniel is progressing nicely and is sleeping and feeding well. Keep up the good work!

M2M - is Mason behaving himself now? I hope he has been a bit nicer to his baby sister. I pity you mums with toddlers and a newborn, try and keep sane!! Great photos too BTW!

Tracy - great to hear that Ben is being nice to his little brother - just cuddles no hitting. Hopefully it stays that way! That must have been so scary when Ben pulled the cupboard down onto himself! Have you got your Visas organised yet? That seems to be taking FOREVER (poor you!)

TMD - that's lovely that Chace will be wearing your baptism gown. We will be having a naming ceremony for William. Just in the local civic park, it's very nice there. Hope for a good day weather wise! p.s. have you tried Infants Friend? It may help with Chace's wind, it seems to work for us.

Angel - I hope Nicole is more settled for you today. She could well be teething by the sounds of it. Poor little tike.

Well I'm off to have my shower before he wakes up again!! I just had to come on here and say hello to my ladies and let you all know that I think all of our bubbas are absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!! :)

Bye for now,
Sheree xxx

[Bexta]

Hey!!! :wave:

Hope everyone had a great weekend.

Angel - it takes me about 2 hours to do a post too!!! I copy them before I hit submit... they have gone missing before :crying:. How's Nic today? Is it teeth? I love my mcns too!!! It's an addiction now :o:laughing:.

Shell - it takes me all day to express about 120mls... I usually have a bit of a pump after a feed or if I'm feeling especially full & he's asleep. Started doing this the week before I started at the gym, so DH had supplies for whilst I'm gone for the 1 & 1/2 hours. At 1st could only get 60mls or so, but slowly building up. I only go to the gym 3 mornings a week but keep up the expressing every day to get a stash in the freezer. I'm not sure of the protocol of drinking & BFing... I did read somewhere that it's the ame as how long it takes for the alcohol to leave your bloodstream??? That would be 1 hour per standard drink, but that doesn't sound right to me. I left it 8 hours the other night, but you can buy 'milk screen' tests to use that give you the all clear. Sorry for not being any help & rambling!!! :ecomcity: Oh, OMG about getting your period!!! I hope mine stays away!!!

Mummy to Mason - that would be awful doing the bath/bed routine by your self. I'm lucky my DH works normal hours... I'm the shift worker in the family & when I do arvo shifts, DH is left to do all that himself. Probably gives him a better understanding of just how hard it can be. I'm scared of live chat... just can't type fast enough!!!

Twinmumdee - I love indian food!!! Yummo!!! When is the Baptism? Can't wait to see photos... the gown sounds lovely. All of my kiddies have suffered terribly with wind... it's awful!!!

Tracy - I'm not game enough to try a dreamfeed yet... I'm just thankfull he sleeps till 3:30. When are you going to try it? Let me know how it goes, if it works, I might give it a shot.

Cordelia - my DH is the king of unfinished projects!!! He started another one on Sunday (which would have been Saturday if I didn't tell him to do a bit on another one... which just happens to STILL be unfinished even after 4 months :rolleyes:). Love the idea of the chart... but I couldn't see it???

Bubsno1 - I hope the appointment for William goes well tomorrow!!!

ASM - my Mum has DS1 toady, so just a nice day spent with DS2... he'll be 2 months tomorrow!!! Gee it's just flown!!! I'm sure the last 2 months of the pregnancy took longer!!! Here's a pic of him when he was 6 days old (I know it's late... only just uploaded to Photobucket!!!) DH & DS2 (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/BextaK/Casey-13.jpg)

[tracynben]

just a quickie from me again, will do personals tonite when the kids in bed.
Yesterday was a bad day again with ben, we were out all day so he dint have a nap, went to a friends, and he had a major tantrum when we went home, i tried puttin him to bed but he just kept screamin, so i let him stay up a bit longer to chat to my mum on webcam just so he could calm down, then he went to sleep.
BUT he woke at 1am screamin again, went in cuddled him, but as soon as i left he just kept screamin, i thought he would wake jayden and rich had to be up at 4.30am to work away till tomos night, luckily in the end rich settled him.

BEDTIME ROUNTINE - i still havent got a good rountine with this yet, and im too on my own like M2M cos most days rich gets home later, its such hard work, but i know as jayden gets older it will get easier.

VISAS - still waiting for passport, it should be back this week though, then i can go justice of peace to get certified copies, rich has to pick up medical results, and then we can finally apply, so hopfully in a week or so we will have sent it off.

Thats all i can remember for now, be back later
tracy xxxx

[Ashi]

what exactly is this dreamfeed thing u all go on about? :confused::confused: never heard of it

[MummaFug]

Will pop in later when the kiddies are asleep and try to do some more posts but HAD to say

OMG BEXTA - That picture is AMAZING :)
Such a gorgeous gorgeous photo..We didnt do any artistic shots of Ashleigh so perhaps we should - Can I borrow your DH :) ??

I LOVE IT !!!

[Bexta]

Thanks Fugs!!! Yes he is gorgeous... & the baby isn't too bad either!!! :laughing: A talented BH'er came to our house & took them. I have the whole album on Facebook, but don't know how to share them from there???

Here he is yesterday having nappy free time in the yard> pic1 (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/BextaK/SinceMisterC940.jpg) pic2 (http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll210/BextaK/SinceMisterC942.jpg)

Ashi - a dreamfeed is when you pick bubby up without waking & give them a feed whilst they're still asleep... so they don't wake hungry later on iykwim? Didn't work for me with DS1 & haven't tried it yet with DS2.

[BubsNo1]

Great photo Bexta! Very cool :cool:

Yep that's it! I tried a dreamfeed last night at 10:30pm. I just woke him up enough for him to feed. I had to tickle him under the chin and blow on his face :p (left him wrapped up).

He still woke at 4am though. Yet the other night he went from 9:30pm to 7am without the dreamfeed. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure if I like it or not. I don't really like waking him up if he is asleep :no:

p.s. I just wanted to say that I copy my posts too, just in case the computer has a hissy fit!! :geek: :laughing:

[Shell31]

NIIIIIIIIIIICKY !!!! I received the parcel today. The sling is fantastic. Thank you so so much. I put Daisy in it straight away & omg DH, Theo & I were laughing our heads off at her in it, little eyes & spiky hair sticky out the top :laughing: (She's having a bad hair day poor thing lol) I will get DH to take a photo & will post it so you can see her. Omg too funny. She seems to really like it so far.. thank you again so much. I'm so glad your little fella didnt like it :p

It's our wedding anniversary today so I won't spend too long on here lol.. DH slept until mid morning after his nightshift so Theo & I attacked the garden along the back fence. Lets just say there is ALOT less garden now. All the shrubs had a severe haircut :yes: Then when DH woke up we went out to lunch. Yummmmy. We came home to put Theo to bed but are planning on taking he & Daisy to "our lookout" where we were married later this afternoon. It looks over the beach & is really beautiful on a nice day. Unfortunately its come over all gross & grey now so not sure if thats still going to happen. Christ I'm tired. So hard when DH is on nightshifts. I stayed up until 1am both nights he worked & was up at 5.30am :no: Silly me.

Better go Theo is awake. Read all your posts. LOVE the photo Bexta. Take care.

Rachelle x

[Nickimumto1]

Hello to all,

Just thought i would cover some topics as i have not been on and there are to many posts.

Dreamfeed - I tried the dreamfeed, but have better luck with out one. After i do a dreamfeed he will grunt and grown in his bassinett and wake still at 3am. So i did not bother last night and he sleept till 5am.

Bexta - Your baby photo's are beautiful.:yes:

Alcohol in breastmilk - It is the same as in your blood, so 2 drinks in the first hour and then 1 every hour will keep you under .05 and then 2 hours for that to be out of your system.

Shift work - I hated afternoon shift, or lunch and dinner shift as i called it, because i would have to pack both. Don't know if i will go back to work or study and do something new.

Projects - My DH never starts them! It took him 6 weeks to put one shelf in DD cupboard and it fell down last week. If i need anything done around the house i get a professional in. He will do housework just not a handy man, his hands are too soft :laughing:. If you could write a computer program to do it, it would be done.

Bedtime routine - I did not have one, but last week i have started. I just found that i need to start dinner earlier. So i start dinner at 4:30 and then bath Liam at 5:30, then Meaghan has dinner, and when DH gets home he gives Liam a feed or Meaghan a bath. Then Liam & Meaghan play while we cook or eat dinner. Then bed by 7:30. Does not happen each night but if i start dinner earlier then it is one less thing to worry about.

US - we are still looking at houses, have not found anything yet, getting a bit fed up. Liam is getting out of his wrap overnight and pulling it up over his face, so i bought him a sleeping bag from an online store babyshop.com.au and saved $30 and it arived the next day, very happy about that. Hoping to get to the gym tonight, need to lose weight as i refuse to buy new clothes.

Hope everyone has a good day.

[muminwaiting]

I have just spent 320mins reading everyones posts and replyinh and when I hit post it went and disapeared on me :crying::crying::crying:

@#$%&* computer:geek:. Holly is awake I will try again later.

I must learn to copy...

[Nickimumto1]

Hope that Daisy likes it more than Liam did, hope it helps you. :yelclap:

[Ashi]

Ashi - a dreamfeed is when you pick bubby up without waking & give them a feed whilst they're still asleep... so they don't wake hungry later on iykwim? Didn't work for me with DS1 & haven't tried it yet with DS2.
Wow thats really weird lol i dont think that would work with breastfeeding hey.. lol:rolleyes:

[Shell31]

lol @ weird Ashi...

I breastfeed & it works really well for us :yes:. It's worked for 3 of my 4 children, all breastfed. Guess its like anything though in that it's not for everyone & what works for one may not work for everyone.

[tracynben]

hi everyone hope all ok, at the mo i think i got 2 kids sleepin WOW.

DREAMFEED - i was wondering maybe with the dreamfeed u have to try it for a few days so there bodyclock gets use to it, cos they use to wakin in the nite mite need a while to adjust, and if u do try a dreamfeed and they wake at the same time, are they def hungry, and do they feed the same amount? if they answer is no, then the dreamfeed mite work it mite just need time, thought i would post that for anyone who had given up after just one day, im gonna try it for a week and ill let u all know how i go.

BED ROUTINE - ours still not going well, but partly cos jayden still has no routine, so im hopin after 3 months things will get better and easier, i just have to go with the flow at the mo, and hope that jayden isnt unsetlled when i deal with ben, cos if he is then ben plays up, luckily today it went really smoothly cos jayden was sleepin.

NIKKI - hope u find a house soon.

SHELL - happy aniversary glad u had a lovely day.

AFM - well im still in my nightwear from last nite lol, im so lazy, i need to get organised in the morning, i just hate gettin out of bed cos im sooo tired.
Gotta tell u funny story about ben today, i was on the toilet and he always follows me, well he was really watchin what i was doin, then he tried to touch my doodle lol, and then cos he saw my wipin it lol, he got some toilet roll and tried to wipe it lol, kids ehhh, hes really at that stage where he wants to copy everything u do, better not do anything sexual with dp in front of him LOL

tracy xxxx

[Nickimumto1]

Arrrr, I hate Mondays... I don't know what it is but every Monday Liam refuses to sleep for more than 1 hour. He has spent the day straped to me in the Hug-a-bub. He fed a playgroup and then i put in the hug-a-bub so i can play with Meaghan, all fine then we get home and have lunch, Meaghan goes for a nap and then i feed Liam and try to put him down and all he does is screem. Meaghan gets up and she is unhappy and playing up because Liam is crying and my attention is on him. Today i sent her to her room 4 times for poring water in her toybox, jumping on top of the dryer, screeming at the top of her lungs after many requests for her to stop, empting the contents of the fridge onto the kitchen floor and refusing to put them back.

I feed Liam early at 5:30 and he went to sleep but i wonder what time he will wake as he normaly feeds at 6pm.

This goes on every monday, don't know if it is that DH is at work, that we have playgroup, or he just hates mondays. I feel bad that Meaghan gets in to trouble because she just wants my attention, but i can't just let her be naughty.

Anyway how has everyones day been? Hope it was better than mine.

Shell did you make it to the lookout? Hope you had a nice anniversary. Ours was 2 weeks ago and MIL would not take Liam for the night so we had to take him, but we missed dinner as we feel asleep (quick nap before dinner) and worke at 9:30, could not be botherd going out, so got pizza and had a couple of drinks. Could not ever summon the energy to do the deed :laughing:. How things have changed...

Better go and do the dishes, it never stops...:rolleyes:

[Cordelia]

I think I must have killed this thread yesterday because no one replied to me! I'm sitting in the corner sulking.. but you can't get rid of me that easy :laughing::devil: [that represents an evil cackle]

Dreamfeed - tracy, i'm interested in how you go!! We tried to dreamfeed again but he just wakes up earlier than normal. stupid stupid.

Zoo - went today by myself and 2 kids for a playgroup excursion :hair: Actually, it wasn't too bad but we didn't see much because by the time i'd packed and made the trek, fed Daniel on the lawn, it was time for DD's sleep. sigh - o well :P

Sorry, that's it from me tonight :( you all suck.. just kidding :P I'm still recovering from the zoo hehe

I have to go to maccas cafe for a frappe - I am soooooo elite and upper class.

[bootiful]

I have just spent 320mins reading everyones posts and replyinh and when I hit post it went and disapeared on me :crying::crying::crying:

@#$%&* computer:geek:. Holly is awake I will try again later.

I must learn to copy...

:hair: i just did the same thing

[Shell31]

:shame: Cordelia.. There will be no sulking here... I have ALL sulking rights today being that it is my anniversary & my Nightshift coma husband is in bed :no:

Didn't get to the lookout. Weather was foul & Theo chose today of all days to have a 4 hour sleep :rolleyes:. Had dinner at home (leftovers) and when DH went up to Coles to get me some supplies after the kids went to bed he came back in with a bunch of pink roses...

Mum's going to mind the kids on the weekend so we can have a proper anniversary dinner somewhere & maybe grab a movie..

FYI you big old dreamfeed testers. This dreamfeed thingy is just a trial & error thing. For me the dreamfeed was never about trying to get my baby to sleep through the night.. it was about me not wanting to be woken an hour after going to bed myself to feed the baby..
So I'd do it thinking ok now I SHOULDNT be woken up for atleast 4 hours.. That is all I wanted out of it. I was just trying to get my baby to fit in with us a little more if you know what i mean.. I hated.. HATED going to bed & being woken up an hour later.. or worse.. sitting up for an hour waiting (never wake a sleeping baby :rolleyes:) and have baby sleep another 3 hours O.o... so frustrating.. Somewhere along the line I had to just say.. Yeh nah this aint working for me poppett.. Lets give this a go... And it worked for 3 of the 4... Don't expect miracles.. our babies are still really little.. The first 4 months really are an uphill trek in regards to sleep but it does get better & eventually you sit back & think... omg.. remember when we were up 3 times a night...

Don't stress.. Just enjoy your babies :D

Ok now Nanna Shell is going to hit the sack.. Gawd I sound like an old women.

Ni ni xxx

[justmum]

3 times a night - I'd kill for 3 times a night :sleeping:

[Nickimumto1]

After my horrible Monday (not that bad), Liam sleept from 6pm - 5am last night, must have been tired from all that crying. So everyone is back in my good books.

Have a good day, it cold and wet in Melbourne.

[Ashi]

lol @ weird Ashi...

I breastfeed & it works really well for us :yes:. It's worked for 3 of my 4 children, all breastfed. Guess its like anything though in that it's not for everyone & what works for one may not work for everyone.
maybe i misunderstood how u do it then lol cuz it sounded like u feed them while there sleeping and like.. u couldnt just shove ur boob in their mouth lol
if its like waking them up to feed them i guess i get it and i guess i kinda do that cuz i wake her up at 11 30 to feed n change, cuz thats when we usually go to sleep (would usually have been in bed with her for ages already, watching tv lol) but i like to get her up n feed her b4 i go to sleep so at least like u said shell u dont get woken in like an hour and she always goes straight back to sleep :yelclap:

anyways hope everyone else is well :)

[Nickimumto1]

Ashi - in a dreamfeed there eyes are still closed and are asleep, they say that you don't need to burp them or change there nappy. It did not work for us as Liam wiggles and grunts after becuse i can't get the wind up and when i don't change his nappy it leaks. But it works for some people, you do need to do it for a couple of nights. Google it and you will find more info. Hope that helps.

[Ashi]

oh.. i dont think i could get izzy to do that lol shes either asleep or awake she dosent seem to have an inbetween..

btw shell i wasnt having a go at anyone i was just confused lol

[Cordelia]

Daniel fed whilst half asleep - that wasnt the problem - it was him waking 3 hours later!!!

anyway, no need for dreamfeeds here... he slept 7-6 last night :) pllleeeeeeeaaasssseeee do it again!!!

[k2ma]

Any ideas on how to get sunscreen and heel balm out of a carpet?







:hair:slowly going insane

[1stTimeMum09]

Hi everyone..

Wow so many pages to catch up so sorry no personals..

Stimulus payment-I got my $900 last thursday...

Ryley had his 2 month needles last Tuesday and I got dad to hold him for me as I couldn't do..When he had them his bottom lip drop and his eyes look so sad :( I gave him panadol when we got home and he wanted lots of mummy cuddles...And for the first time ever he slept form 8:30pm to 5am!! It was every 3 hours so it was a bit of a shock...

Sorry just want to update everyone and hope you all are well and your bubs as well..

[tracynben]

wow i think (touch wood) i have peace n quiet at lunchtime for once, hopefully they both will sleep, and ben was good last nite, he stayed in bed, fell asleep straight away and slept about 12 hours, but he didnt have a nap yesterday, hes still wakin crying, so i think hes still a little tired, but hopefully gradually i can get him back to normal.
yesterday jayden was asleep the whole way through bens bedtime routine, it made such a difference, i guess everythin when u have 2 is trial n error, some things work n some dont.

I chickened out of the dreamfeed, was so tired by half nine, i just couldnt be arsed, he still slept 6.15pm - 2am and had a feed at 2.30am.

I have this sleep book, that claims u can train a baby to sleep through from 12 weeks 7pm-7am. That would be great but what i dont like about it is they only have 2 naps, one of an hour and one of 2 hours, and the awake time for one is 3 hours, and 4 hours awake till bedtime, seems an awfull lot for 12 weeks old.

tracy xxxxx

[Shell31]

K2MA - Not sure about the sunsreen & heel balm. I have half a bottle of palms massage oil on mine courtesy of Theo :no:. I'll meet you at the funny farm. Lets hold hands & skip on the way through the doors. Make a grand entrance eh

Ashi - I didn't think you were having a go at anyone. I just loved your post of "lol weird.." takes abit to upset me :hugs:

Nicki & Cordelia - Liam & Daniel are legends.. HUGE sleep effort. Hope you both managed to get some sleep while the boys did. I laid down this afternoon when Theo had a nap & Daisy was asleep.. I gave up after the following....

1 - Text message from ex re sick daughter
2 - Austar knocks on door
3 - Daisy stirs, I replug
4 - Another Austar dude knocks on door
5 - Daisy stirs so I feed her in bed & we doze
6 - Theo calls out MUMMMYYY MUMMMYYY, sleep attempt OVER !!!!

Why did I bother. It just makes me angry when that happens lol

Kirsten - awww Poor Ryley.. The needles don't get any easier the older they get or the number of children you have.. Good he had a big sleep after them though & you got some rest. Glad to hear your well.

Justmum - See above comment about my attempt at a rest.. :sleeping: Hope you get a good nights sleep soon.


AFM - Daisy slept well again last night. We went to the specialist today about Aaron's wrist. He has a tumour (beniegn (sp) that is growing on the nerves. Has had it for a long time but its getting big enough now that it is effecting his life. Can't pick up the kids on that side, Can't play squash, golf etc.. Can't handle computer work on busy days etc. So he has paperwork to fill out & will have the operation. Has been putting it off as it wasnt worrying him too much and the possible damage to nerves is of concern... Now 6 years have passed and yeh things have changed so hopefully the wait for hospital won't be too long. Went to lunch with Mum & stepdad. Was nice. Thats about it..

Hope you're all smiling
Rachelle x

[Brumington301]

Hello - hope you all missed me cause if you didn't I send evil vibes and sleepless nights to you all!!!:devil: :laughing:

We have just come back from our weekend away in Sydney and after that I feel I can conquer the world (Woolies doesn't seem such an effort anyway!). Friday I was up at 3am courtesy of a gutty little boy, had no time for a sleep cause we had to fly to Sydney, went to the wedding (who gets married on Fri 13th?!) and ended up in bed at 1am. Following day I wake up with Mastitis and spent day in bed (apart from a trip to the Dr, the chemist for antibiotics and a move to another hotel). Terrible illness if nobody's had it before - makes you feel a little worse than death warmed up. All plans we had made for seeing people were out the window. Sunday, all the people we were meant to see over Sat and Sun were all shoved in to Sun morn. Finally got to friends place Sun night and O decided he wasn't sleeping for anybody cause he was so bloody hungry. In the meantime my milk was playing silly buggers and O had rejected the Nan formula so he was a very hungry bunny. It was an emotional rollercoaster to say the least - Friday I was over the moon that I had finally cracked the BF'ing malarky and then Sat it came crashing down around my t1ts!!! Needless to say we're glad to be home and looking forward to getting our little routine back together (i.e me sleeping at some stage!). BTW - O was a star on both flights - he didn't make a sound and was more relaxed than me. He stole everyones hearts on the flights and at the wedding - a very proud mummy and daddy!!! :cloud9:

Sorry for no personals - will get around to it now I'm back online and can keep up.

Hope everyone is well X

[k2ma]

K2MA - Not sure about the sunsreen & heel balm. I have half a bottle of palms massage oil on mine courtesy of Theo :no:. I'll meet you at the funny farm. Lets hold hands & skip on the way through the doors. Make a grand entrance eh

:D:D:DGreat idea - perhaps we shall get some Peace and Quiet once we are tranquilized!

[MummaFug]

HELLO everyone ...

Hope you are all doing well

I have been so busy that getting a second to eat lunch - let alone get on the computer is impossible ...EXCEPT that EarthFairy suggested I watch Will & Grace (have not watched it before) and so now every spare second I have I watch it - I AM ADDICTED .. I bought all 8 seasons so I have ALOT to watch :)

We are all going great ... I seem to have slipped from Mum of 1 to Mum of 2 OK. I actually find 2 easier as I have made myself get organised which I never did with just one. I still have those HORRIBLE afternoons when they both drive me crazy but we seem to be getting there.

I bought my first cloth nappy today :thumbsup: I decide that I will try one and see how we go .. then I can make a decision on whether to convert or not .

K2MA - goodluck with the carpet :)
Shell - I gave up on the sleeps ages ago . Just when I get comfy something happens and then I feel worse so now I just watch Will & Grace..
Brum - Hope you are feeling better. SOunds like quite and eventful weekend but glad you had fun at the wedding ...

SORRY as much as I really really want to do personals for everyione - I can only remember these 3 (as said b4 - I can only scroll down so far)... SO :hugs:to everyone - I HATE leaving people out.

As for all the sleep chat - I really wish Ashleigh would sleep longer - but DS didnt sleep through the night for ages so am happy with her usual
10pm, 1.30am, 4.30am then 7.00 in bed with me... I have had a few nights of 10.30, 3 and 6 which I love but it really depends on the day. I LOVE seeing her little face during those night feeds so doesnt bother me - I just take her into bed and feed lying down.

OK back to Will & Grace ... :flowerz:

I WILL try and keep up more often coz I hate missing out on all the goss :)

[MummaFug]

:flowerz: HAPPY BIRTHDAY:flowerz:
ASHI



:bee: happybirthday :bee:


:sunshine:

[bootiful]

evening everyone

had a fun day today, JustMum and I took the kids to Wiggly Woo (dance group) and the kids had a ball :D

I managed to clear more stuff of my recorder so nearly up to date now. I made Tandoori Chicken for dinner and have just stuffed my face silly :chef:

I have my exercise class tomorrow and I hope Nic lets me do more than 10 mins before wanting a bf, last week I missed most of the class cause I was feeding :(

Anhoo, can't do personals right now cause im typing with Nic sleeping on my shoulder so typing is a bit hard.

Hope your all doing well :wave:

[justmum]

Angel and I had a great time today at wiggly woo - if there are any other January mums with toddlers looking for something to do on a tuesday, you should join us next week :thumbsup: it's cheap, clean fun. :D

[Cordelia]

Angel and I had a great time today at wiggly woo - if there are any other January mums with toddlers looking for something to do on a tuesday, you should join us next week :thumbsup: it's cheap, clean fun. :D

Where abouts is it?? we need something to do on tuesdays :) i used to be a rhyme time leader but too hard with 2 kids.

brum - it is awesome to hear from you - i've been wondering how you went. awww mastitis you poor thing. It must be nice for you to be back home and get back into thing s- you're very brave doing all that with a newborn so well done!!

fugly - good to hear from you too :) I agree with the slipping easily into mum of 1 to mum of 2... I'm so much more on the ball and thinking ahead that it seems to be easier. (i know having said that I'm probably in for a horror day tomorrow!)

shell - hope you manage to get a good sleep tonight :P aaron's wrist sounds very painful.

Hi to everyone else that I've missed - it's late!!! I just got home from a meeting and trying to wind down before bed otherwise i'll lay there for hours with my mind whirling. (not to mention potential baby feedings!!!!)

bb tomorrow to hear all the goss!

[tracynben]

where is it, if its too far north, then prob too far for me to travel every week
tracy xxx



Angel and I had a great time today at wiggly woo - if there are any other January mums with toddlers looking for something to do on a tuesday, you should join us next week :thumbsup: it's cheap, clean fun. :D