~*November 07 mums and bubs*~ #7 [Archive] - Bub Hub Pregnancy & Parenting Forum

Lozie

26-02-2009, 08:44

Sorry about yesterdays post was a quickie before i had to try and make sense of my pig sty of a house LOL!!

AB- Yay on moving gympie is only an hourish drive from me Woot who's up for meets at noosa!! LOL
Good luck with the move!!!

Rb- OMG Ani is so clever i read your other thread last night :yelclap: for him and let him do it maybe he's one of those wonder kids that basically train themselves :D

Moops- Dont be so down on urself you look fab :hugs: and i'm sure your friends wont care what you look like just catching up would be great!!!

Em hugs and kisses sweets i hate meds too been on and off then for PND they suck!!! But in the end you'll feel better so charge towards that!! ANd thank God th IL's are down the road!! I have my FIL living in our granny flat and it drives me mental!! and he's not in my house LOL !!
Re fussy eaters- I'm pretty sure it's a stage all my three go thru this regularly my doc told me they build up to a growth spirt((eating lots or more than they usually would)) then once thats over they slow down and it's a cycle apprently. Jacy does it almost bi monthly.

Sands! I read ur FB status! cant beleive ur putting weight on LOL Hope you get back to 60kg soon and if you dont you can have some of mine LOL
those shakes are gross Dh takes them to get bigger even tho he doesnt need too! Just the smell make me wanna :barf: hope urs are yyummy!!!

Quaver- That cake was gawjus! Glad ur having fun with ur course!!

Well with us Balin is talking heaps but most of i can hardly understand he gets excited and talks really fast so it's all a jumble most of the time LOL He feeds himself now with a spoon!! funny to watch sometimes he misses! Oh and has discovered how to take his nappy off which most of the time is ok cause we part TT atm but he can get his nappy off under his shorts hmmm clever boy so i have started putting it on backwards and he hasnt figured out how to get it off yet!
I'm heading to the doc on monday asking for a BT, I wanna wait but dont wanna incase it's something more serious... i worked it out last night too and i was supposed to get af start of this week so my levels must be really low or somethig else i do have a small cyst on one ovary. Told Dh last night it may be a possibility and he's over the moon he just need to keep his mouth shut cause he cant with stuff like this.. and please keep this here lovlies noone in RL needs to know or my mother will shoot me LOL

hugs and love to all i think i have rambled enough LOL and if you dont see me on here i'll be on FB

Take care!!

xoxox

Nan

26-02-2009, 19:33

Helloooooooo everyone!
Sounds like life is plodding along for us.
Moops - 2 weeks! :eek: Far out, that's gone quickly. Try not to beat yourself us sweets! Your friends will probably look different too. That's life. Most people get bigger as they get older. Rare to see someone in there 50s that has the same eight and figure they had in their 20s!! :yes: I'm sure you look FAB!!

RB - That is SO great about Ani! I'm thinking as soon as Caleb can walk I'm going to get him into it too......before he gets stubborn like his big sister! He looks at the potty and says 'weeeeees'!!! :D And if I ask if he has a poo he says 'mmmm'. This is how he says yes, so he's on his way. If he hates it I'll back off though.

We had a breakthrough again today. Eden has started taking herself off to the toilet to do both wees and poos! She is coming along in leaps and bounds now. :yelclap: She is wanting to go on the toilet more too. Up until now she was using the potty but using the loo at the shops or people's houses. She's doing so well.

Em - A close friend of ours is bipolar, so I know a bit of what you're going through. Its a nasty thing to have. :hugs:

Lozie - Not crazy to have colostrum hun. I've heard of women who could fully BF who didn't have a baby!!! It's all hormonal. You can produce milk without being pg. Very rare but it can happen. Even still, maybe you are pg. :confused:

quaver - I haven't seen you cake! Is it on FB??

Ooooooh, wasn't AB moving today? I hope all is well.

xxxxxxxxxxxx and ooooooooooooo from me!!!!

kaybee

27-02-2009, 13:56

Just a quick one..

AB - hope the move is going smoothly! I'll be thinking of you all.

RB - :hugs: it sucks having sick kids.

Moops - you are gorgeous! As Quaver said, they'll probably be more interested in Luca than you anyway! lol

Lozie - a friend of mine who stopped breastfeeding 12 months ago, is still producing Colostrum, so you may not be preggers.

Yay on the TT girls! I can't wait till Ava is ready!:yelclap:

The poor little thing had diarrhoea (I can never spell that word!!) earlier this week which resulted in the worst nappy rash I've ever seen! :crying:She cried every nappy change. It got worse and the skin was broken, bleeding & weepy last night, so DH took her to Dr this morning and it is infected. So, she's got some cream for it and her first every course of antibiotics.:thumbsdown: Hopefully it gets better really soon.

Her 2 molars have come through, so at least she's still not miserable with those.

We have a wedding Sunday night. DH's parents are looking after Ava and I am really nervous and upset! I know she will probably be fine, but it's the longest that she has been away from us both, from around 3pm to 11pm+ that night. And the last time we had a night out was before I came back to work almost 5 months ago, so it's been awhile, but I know we are due for a night out. I suppose it's just that she has become so difficult to get to sleep, I'm worried that they wont be able to do it and she'll be up all night. Although, she'll probably get so tired that she'll eventually fall asleep in thier arms.

Anyway, hope everyone has a good weekend.

Nan

01-03-2009, 14:39

kaybee - I hope you have a lovely time and get to relax and have fun. :yes: Don't worry how Ava falls asleep.....so long as she does!! My kids never go to sleep on their own at the Grandparents' houses. Caleb did last night (cousin's wedding) because he'd only had 30 mins of sleep all day!!!! Eden kept getting out of her bed, so she fell asleep in Grandma's arms. I figure so long as they sleep, I don't care how they get there! I'm sure she will be fine.

Hope everyone is well.

shymmer

06-03-2009, 14:47

Hi girls . . .yes, I am still alive!

I made it through to 12 weeks. Thank the angels above the worst is over! The last month was awful. I do believe I am a big sook when I'm sick, but it just gets the better of me to be feeling like I'm gonna puke 24hrs a day for weeks on end! My mum is a ledgend! She worked so hard looking after two little kids (my 2yr old niece as well) for weeks and she is 65yrs! I owe her big time!!!

Anyway, I'm feeling better now - and the last queasines should go completely in the next couple weeks I'm sure. It's so good to be home and able bodied!!
Got my NT scan next Wed, so providing no nasty surprises, I'm looking forward to it.
And my brothers wedding is at the end of this month and I'm the photographer! So I'm glad I'll be fit for the job!

I'm showing already. I know they say you show earlier with subsequent pregnancies but it's a bit depressing that I don't think I'll be able to wear what I wanted to the wedding - don't think the skirt will do up. Boohoo. Have to go shopping, but I don't want to look pregnant . . .have to be crafty about it!!

Okay, so nuff about me . . . .tried to catch up a bit . .

Glad the job came through AB and i hope the move is going smoothly for you. Very exciting to be exploring new places!

Um . . . . can't remember anything else -

Oh, was gong to say, DD had several sleep over's with my sister while I was away. She LOVED it! Never said 'boo' whenever anyone wanted to take her off somewhere, she'd happily wave me goodbye like I wasn't even her mother! As soon as someone said - "lets go bye-bye . ." she was arms up and let's head already!
My mum suggested if DH and I wanted a week in Fiji before next bub is born, Xav could stay with them for the week . . . .. . . I feel a bit wierd about leaving her for a week, but oh man . . that is SO TEMPTING!!!! So I'm thinking seriously about it.

AliyahBlake

06-03-2009, 15:12

Hey girls - greetings from the Sunshine State!!!! Yes we are finally in Gympie and we love it!

Haven't had time to look through posts, and now Blake has woken up, so might come back later to fill you in on all the details. Missed you guys and your gossip so can't wait to catch up on it all :D

Back later.................

MrsScatterbrain

06-03-2009, 19:28

Just popping in quickly to say hi! :wave:

I was given the Twilight book series for my birthday, and I've been underground reading the 4 of them for a fortnight! :laughing: I morphed into a 14 year old for a bit there! :D Great books, though! Glad to have my life back!

For those skinny minnies out there, I have a wonderful lentil Lasagne recipe from my 'Foods that Fight Back' recipe book if you're interested? Lmk ;)

Chat later! :D

Moops

07-03-2009, 06:50

Hi!

Sorry guys no time for a big post, got my MIL here at the moment (Grrrrrr will fill you in later!) so I'll be back in a bit.

Brisbane mums I've posted a thread on our FB group about meeting up etc, thought that would be easier to discuss rather than on here....so get on asap! :laughing:

AB - so glad the move went well and that you're settling in ok! xxx

Rainbowbrite

07-03-2009, 13:59

Oh man, we've all gotten so quiet!!!

I've been flat out with Uni readings. Haven't even started on my assignments, hundreds of pages of textbook readings is taking all my time :eek: Enjoying it though I must say :D

Nothings changed here, Ani has 2 eye teeth now, is still not saying much & is being a pain when we're out. HATES the stroller, won't sit in a trolley. He wants to either walk or be carried the whole time. Very annoying.

AB glad to hear you're there safe. How is A taking it? Is she going to school?

Mrs S can I grab that recipe please? :)

Moops, ewww MIL staying lol. Enjoy your trip!!!! We're prob going up to QLD again in July, so hopefully this time we can all meet up!!

Best be off, Ani's just woken & I need to tidy the house.

AliyahBlake

08-03-2009, 07:19

OK I'm back - I will now attempt to give you a run down of our move. Somehow I think Blake might interrupt me but we'll see how we go!

Well, the packing was a breeze, mainly because we didn't really have to do anything but supervise. The removalists had it all done within a day and a half (I reckon it would have taken me 2 weeks!). We left on the Thursday after packing up the 2 cars and camper, and headed north. Our first night was in a caravan village in Kempsey - it was next to the main road so quite noisy, but the amenities were clean and there were hardly any people there so that was fine. Next day we headed off to just near the border - stayed at a little place called Wooyong (near Tweed Heads). It had a beautiful caravan park there with lots of trees and space, but of course being near the weekend, there were quite a lot of people turning up at the same time. We had a fairly restless night as we had a group of people on one side of us having a party, and another group of three families turned up on the other side of us at about 9pm and took ages to set up and were really noisy! Originally we were thinking of staying another night, but we thought Saturday night may be noisier so we left and headed on to Queensland the next day. We drove through Gympie, but weren't picking up the keys til Monday, so went on to Rainbow Beach (which is right near Fraser Island). We stayed at a lovely caravan village near the beach - it was quiet and clean so we stayed all weekend. We spent Sunday at the beach and in the pool. The kids had a ball! At the pool we met a nice couple with 2 kids from Gympie. We hit it off straight away so will definitely get together with them once we settle in here.

We have had a few little dramas along the way - one of our turtles died from stress on the way up. The other one is OK though which is a relief. The removalists broke the fishtank, so we have had to buy a new one. They broke a few other things too, but it was all insured so we just have to sort all that out to get stuff repaired/replaced. Our dog, Pixie, has run away 4 times since we've arrived! She came back twice and has been found twice and brought back. Luckily I changed her microchip details before we left so the people who found her could contact me. She was also very sick from stress when we got here but seems to be settling now. She is 11 years old so we knew it would knock her around a bit.

The new house is amazing! Once we have unpacked I'll take some pics and pop them on FB. It is huge! Our ensuite has a spa bath and is bigger than our main bathroom! The backyard is nice and big too with a nice pergola area the kids and dog can play under even if it's raining.

Blake is taking quite a while to adjust to everything. He has been very clingy and whingy. One of his big molars has just popped through too so that hasn't helped! He has developed some mild excema too - he had some on his neck before we left and now has a patch on his back. I've been putting the cortisone cream on which seems to help. He has slept well the last couple of nights, but is still waking at 6 am every morning! He has decide he only needs one day sleep now, too, which is fine with us as he sleeps for about 1.5 to 2 hours!

Craig starts his new job tomorrow - he's a bit nervous but looking forward to working again. It's been a very long 4 months. We have just signed new tenants for our house in Sydney which is good.

There's a couple of Bubhubbers here in Gympie who have already PM'd me so it'll be good to have some new friends!

Anyway, that's all I can think of. Oh yeah, Aliyah hasn't started school yet - there's a drama about that too. Because her birthday is after the cutoff date (all of 4 hours!) the school needs "proof" that she is academically and socially ready to go to school - apparently the fact she was already in school in NSW for the last month doesn't count :rolleyes: They want an independent child psychologist assessment done - IQ test etc, so the school can consider her enrolment. It's such a crock and we are quite bemused by it, but we will do anything it takes to get her into prep.

Anyway, I'm going to try and catch up on all your posts for the last week or so...............

melbryan

08-03-2009, 07:33

Hi to all I often think about you and check out all your photos on FB.

AB- glad your happy with your move all the very best of luck and hope you can get A into school soon.

Well just wanted to drop by and say tomorrow (Monday) will be my last with 3 kids. I am having a CS on Tues so will meet our princess early that day. We are all very excited we have the car, the room and everything si ready. Feeling very huge but know it will be my last as I am having my tubes done too. I will be in the March threads and will announce it there.
Off to get some fruit from the markets now and get the kids sorted for the week as well as go to a party today.
Take care all and will catch up in due time,
Mel x

AliyahBlake

08-03-2009, 16:53

AB- Yay on moving gympie is only an hourish drive from me Woot who's up for meets at noosa!! LOL

LOL yeah Lozie - cool idea!!! Haven't been to Noosa for years so that would be fun! Good luck with the test tomorrow - I hope it turns out the way you want - either way!

J has finally started to say a bit more...i think. he came out with duck last week and he called out Nan when i went to mum and dads. the moooing is hillarious too! it is funny he seems to say something, well i think he does and then does not say it much again? dont they usually practice new sounds? well he seems to be chatting more.

I think it's pretty normal for them to say stuff and then not to say it again for a while. Blake does that and I remember Aliyah doing the same thing.

I made it through to 12 weeks. Thank the angels above the worst is over!

:yelclap: Well done Shymmer - what a relief hey?

I am having a CS on Tues so will meet our princess early that day.
Best of luck to you Mel - I hope it all goes well and can't wait to see pics of your new little girl :D

Now I'll see if I can remember anything else!

Congrats on the nom RB - I'll make sure I vote :D. I haven't looked at the nom list yet - anyone else from here on it? Also, good luck with your studies.

Glad that things are settling down for you Em - hope the meds help :thumbsup:

Thanks for all your well-wishes for our move. I'm glad it's over with, I can tell you!

sandralee

09-03-2009, 06:28

I miss you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moops - I understand where you are coming from, feeling a bit weird about meeting up with us - but honey, I can speak for myself & probably everyone else, that IT DOESN"T MATTER TO ME WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE! Hell, I feel skinny and old and pale LOL! So that makes us even!! When I met Shymmer it was a random spontaneous thing and MAN DID I FEEL FERRAL! I had no sleep for months and didn't have much of an attention span - Noah was unsettled back then & I was an anxious wreck because of it. (hmmm...we never did meet up again LOL :D - but I would love to!) Same with Sasa - would love to meet up in GC as soon as we can swing it.
I have now had my dad with us for months! Since last july!!!! He came down for a 'visit' & is still here. Initially I begged him not to leave...but now....IT"S TIME TO GO!!!!!! I feel like my life has stopped for so long. If I DO visit a friend, my dad is right there with me and I can't catch up with them properly. I don't look forward to having 'that conversation' with him cos I don't know where to start, nor do I want to offend him. I know it's time though cos I feel like I am living in groundog day. Plus he is getting to be 'the fun guy' day in and day out with Noah while I do the cooking, some cleaning etc - then Noah clings on to him if I mention 'nap time' and we have a bit of a struggle - yet he is fine if my dad is out of the picture. TBH I am scared after all this, that when my dad comes for a holiday it may be a looooong one, so will have to be clear before he visits. He and my mum have a lot of issues to sort out, and I feel like he has been using this stay to AVOID HIS OWN LIFE.. which isn't healthy, cos the issues are still there..and I feel vibes very strongly...so feeling all his misery/anger/fear/lack of clarity for months and months isn't very healthy for me.
Steve and I are now completely happy to TTC - has taken a while to make th leap of faith...now it is just a matter of BD to actually CONCEIVE ONE LOL!! Think I might buy a thermometer for my hoo-hoo to figure out when I ovulate to maximise chances hehe. SOunds so clinical though. I have even started thinking that I might like another son! (after all the daughter talk lol!!)
Noah is still sleeping through which is a godsend, but less of a nap during the day, only an hour most days now. Sometimes I hear him have a quick resettling whinge but it isn't anything he needs me for. He is such a passionate little kid, which is both good and bad. when he is good, he is AWESOME..when he is denied something or frustrated he is HORRIBLE! His latest thing is doing something we call Happy Feet. WHen he really wants something (or doesn't want something) he does some kind of riverdancing move.. like tap dancing on the spot. Really quite funny and I end up in stitches laughing!! He is downright sad with eating..not much variety! After having a good appetitie for 2wks, where he ate lots, he is now back to small meals. 'Meals' still being the same things lol - fruit and yoghurt..sultanans...vegemite toast or sandwich LOL. SO ANNOYING THAT HE DOESN"T GET ADVENTUROUS WITH FOOD> On one day he ate a small ammt of veges cos I mixed it in with a TUB OF YOGHURT LOL!
I hope to be back later to write more, going to make some pancakes before Noah wakes, to see if he will eat one for brekky. I got up at 5.30 today, just to hve some time to myself without my dad already being up.
Lots of love to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nan

09-03-2009, 19:36

Hi girls. I'm back! Had my brother's wedding on the weekend & my cousin's the weekend before, so I've been lurking but not posting.
Sands - I feel your pain. It's hard when family cramp your style. They are the hardest people to confront, but I think for your family's mental health you have to do it soon. You're a smart chick! If you think your Dad is putting off sorting out issues then you're more than likely correct. In which case, you have to keep telling yourself you'll be helping him. Then brace yourself for the worst reaction! :o I really hope it goes well for you. All the best with TTC. We're waiting for a few months (not that I've conned Shane yet :rolleyes:) because we REALLY don't want another November baby!!!! Definitely want to space out the birthdays more! lol

AB - Sorry to hear you've had a few woes. I guess that's to be expected with such a large move. Good to hear you're still very positive about it and happy! Hopefully Aliyah's school issues sort themselves out soon. What a drama!!

RB - I'll vote for you too!!! Ani sounds so grown up and independent. In a lot of ways Caleb is still my baby, but his vocabulary has expanded 10 fold over the last 3 weeks. In that regard he's communicating more like a toddler, but he's still shuffling and crawling everywhere. Don't think it'll be long before the stand alone though!! :yelclap:

Moops - IN-LAWS!!!!!! :hair: Sometimes they drive you nuts hey? Mine are pretty good actually so I'm mostly going by my friends. Hopefully it isn't stressing you out too much.

Mel - All the best! :hugs: I'll be checking the March thread for the goss!!!! Little Leah is almost here! YAY!

Mrs S - Enjoy your books! They sound great. I don't get to read much any more. 10-15 mins in bed before I go to sleep, but that's about it. I'm sure if I got off here I'd read a lot more!

shymmer - So so so so glad you're feeling much better. You should go to Fiji! I'd jump at the chance. You've been through a lot this past year or so and a good week of R&R would be awesome for you. Hope you find something for the wedding. I just married off my little brother on Saturday. Weddings are so much fun.............when you don't have to organize anything!

Anyway, I still haven't had tea........but we have managed to get 2 kids in bed asleep before 7:15pm!! Woohoo! I have the whole night ahead of me!

RoarsomeMum

10-03-2009, 12:28

Hi Guys :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: just sending these cause I been slack, and will prob be slack 4 a while!!!!!!!

So much going on, and only have tiny amount of ++ Energy, so dropping it off here! cause I luff u all. xxx

We have HUGE decisions to make Re the cyst and eye.. Cyst not growing, GREAT, but eye worse, she trips all the time now, and bangs into walls and over reaches.. it's like the new pathways she created to compensate for the squewed vision have all failed.. so need to decide whether to sever the cords to the eye, or persevere, and BOTH sides of data are sort of equal, but Dr's pushing for sever, as they think it might help create Brain pathways rather than brain Via eye.. I WENT to Uni and it's all beyond me.. All I can see is my Princess, and how Well she is.. and think, once again, HOW the heck did all this HAPPEN........... New MRI this Fri.. Just want to dissapear... and I SWORE I would leave this post at Hugs.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

shymmer

10-03-2009, 14:40

Oh Em . . . god what a decision. So they mean to sever the nerves etc that tell the brain what the eye is seeing? so she wont be able to see out of it at all? So her brain won't be influenced by the skewed vision? Do I understand right? But if they leave it, might it repair itself?
Wow. I guess all I can think is that the brain is a miraculous thing and whichever way you go, Roar will surprise you with her adaptability and I don't believe that little girl of yours will let anything slow her down! I can't tell you why some peole are faced with these things, but Roar is one fiesty chic, and I know she is going to excell in anything she does! So you keep in mind - the human spirit is much bigger and stronger than any obstacle! :hugs:

Sands, I also hear on you the relo-factor. I've mentioned it before - my mum lived with us for 3 yrs. It was a show down to force her to buy her own place, (she cried, I cried) but she loves it now. So sometimes when you see the right path, you just have to lovingly but firmly push them toward it. Parents are natorious for avoiding thier own problems! I'm sure you'll find the words to let him know his help was wonderful, but you've got it from here.

Moops - I'm so looking forward to meeting you! You know you don't have to worry about US - we love you no matter what! And your girl friends will too - if they are true friends! Most of them have prob had a kid or few and aren't what they used to be. And the truth is, most of us are so worried about ourselves, we don't have time to worry about anyone esle! And if you want the blunt truth - what other people think is none of your business!:D So you just get on and pack and make sure Luca has a cute wardrobe - he's the star, you know!!!:p

Talking about tanties . . isn't it now that they are in the 'terrible two's'? I'm sure I read somewhere that is the year leading UP to two yrs old, not WHEN they are two that it refers to. Xav can't walk yet, so her tanty is throwing herself on her tummy and kicking and thumping the floor. And she has a right temper on her too. Don't know where she got that from . . cough cough. :o

Moops

10-03-2009, 22:42

Hi everyone!

First of all big hugs Em :hugs:that is such a tough decision to make, I just wish everything was ok for Roar! Like S said Roar is such a little trouper and fighter I'm sure this won't hold her back. I really want to put her in my suitcase and take her back to London to see the top specialists here! If you can take her to get a second opinion I would :hugs:

Shymmer - How you been?! Glad to hear everything is progressing nicely and you are feeling better.

As for the looks thing, I'm not really worried about you guys (no offence!) because you've never met me! I guess it is just some people I haven't seen in a while, but like you said who really cares right!?:laughing:

I can't believe we leave on Saturday!!! :eek: I have ordered a kids meal for Luca which is for 2-7 year olds so hopefully he'll get fish fingers or something like that. I'm thinking of taking something as well just incase he hates it, also we have a 6 hour stop in Singapore at lunch time so I'm not sure if the airport will have anything he likes. Does anyone have any ideas on what I can take that doesn't necessarily need heating up? I think it might be a bit of a pain to find a microwave and I don't think cabin crew have one onboard. Gosh there is so much to think about, I'm going to start packing tonight!!!

I've posted a thread in our facebook group about meerting up, I think we have said Thursday the 19th of March at Garden City so let me know what you all think! xxx

Lozie

11-03-2009, 09:02

Hey All!!

Well i went to docs got BT and no baby cool!! anyhoo they still not sure whats doing so more tests in a week to have a look and still no Af hmm tis strange i dunno thinking i might just leave it for a while and see what happening with it in a few weeks so much ios happening lately i am work a tonne of shift and amzingly coming home to cooked dinner and clean house:confused: Dunno what Dh is doing that never really happens!

Moops I have checked my roster and i'm working that day :no: freakin annoying and I cant take it off cause i feel really bad LOL i know i'm slack haha but put heaps of pics up and i will catch ya up on face book!

Em- Hugs!! poor roar!! hopefully things will start getting better for ya's soon:hugs:

Ab- i seen the FB pic of ur new house!! OMG making me wanna move to gympie LOL that is such a nice house!! Did ya's get much cruddy weather with that cyclone?? The wind last night down here woke me up hows it up there??

Shymmer- Haha tanties and T2's we have started going that way too! i know them well Balin is a professional tantie thrower LOL his are epic! well he learnt from the masters i suppose:rolleyes::laughing:. And Fiji!!! Go love get some time out before Baby gets here!

Mel- CONGRATS!!! Hope everything went well!! CAnt wait to see pics of her :goodvibes:

anything else?? Bah i cant remember anyhoo much love to all!!!
And as soon as i know stuff you guys will!!!
Take care lovlies!!

Rainbowbrite

11-03-2009, 11:40

Just a quick one from me, much study to do atm.

Just wanted to pass on the news about MELBRYAN (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showpost.php?p=3562374&postcount=25)!!!

Bubs Name: Leah Jade
Date of Birth: 10.3.09
EDD:
Time of Birth: 10.40
Bubs Weight: 3790
Bubs Length: 52cm

shymmer

11-03-2009, 13:14

Can you believe I missed my scan yesterday???!!! I am so bloody absent minded! I thought it was for Wednesday, so didn't take too much note of the date. Anyway, thankfully she was really nice and could book me in for today. Phew!

DD is sleeping like a log lately! She's been in bed now coming up 13hrs! Great for me! But I always get a bit paranoid when she sleeps so long . . .like WHY???? What's wrong??? Is she still breathing????? I'm loathe to wake her, but she won't go to bed tonight until midnight if I don't!

Moops - take some dried friut and other nibbly stuff (muslie bars ets) that will get through customs easily. I'm sure if you took a container of food the flight attenants could heat it somehow - they do keep the meals warm for passengers, maybe they could put in in with that food and let it warm up over an hour or so?

AliyahBlake

13-03-2009, 14:53

I have now had my dad with us for months! Since last july!!!! He came down for a 'visit' & is still here. Initially I begged him not to leave...but now....IT"S TIME TO GO!!!!!!
Oh Sands, that would be hard - on one hand it's really nice to have family close but on the other hand you need your own space. I had a similar situation with Craig's brother. He moved in with us in Sydney about 7 years ago when he finished Uni so he could find a job and a place to live. He reckoned he'd only be there for about a month, which was OK with us, but it ended up being about 8 months. Craig and I were newlyweds at this stage so you can imagine it kinda cramped our style! Unfortunately Craig's bro is not the most motivated person so in the end we said to him he had to get a job and a place and he had 2 more weeks to do it - if he didn't he would just have to move back to Dubbo (where their parents live). He got the message and is now still living in Sydney with a fairly good job.

So much going on, and only have tiny amount of ++ Energy, so dropping it off here! cause I luff u all. xxx

Love ya too Em - take all the time you need!! :hugs: to you, Chris and Roar!!

Talking about tanties . . isn't it now that they are in the 'terrible two's'?
I don't know why they say that 2 is when the tanties start! Blake gets them a little bit now, but Aliyah got them about the same age and she's now almost 5 and still chucks them LOL!

Well i went to docs got BT and no baby cool!!

Moops I have checked my roster and i'm working that day

Ab- i seen the FB pic of ur new house!! OMG making me wanna move to gympie LOL that is such a nice house!! Did ya's get much cruddy weather with that cyclone?? The wind last night down here woke me up hows it up there??

:bfn: That must be a relief Loz!

Don't worry if you can't make it to the meet-up. Moops and I are thinking about your Noosa suggestion for a few weeks time!

Yeah, a fair bit of wind and rain here but not as bad as I thought it would be.

Just wanted to pass on the news about MELBRYAN (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showpost.php?p=3562374&postcount=25)!!!

Bubs Name: Leah Jade
Date of Birth: 10.3.09
EDD:
Time of Birth: 10.40
Bubs Weight: 3790
Bubs Length: 52cm
Congrats Mel!! :yelclap:

I have a cold and so does J. i took him to the drs today as he spent half last night screaming. really arching his back, i could hardly hold him. he has been grizzly all day. the dr says his ears are red, runny nose but not infection. but teeth! he has woken twice since 7pm so i think i am in for another night.:crying: i want my good little boy back. stupid teeth come through.

:hugs: Hope you are both better soon. I hear you on the teeth - Blake's molars are surfacing and he's been a cranky little bugger the last few days. Not sleeping or eating well and just feral! One molar to go so I hope it comes through soon and he goes back to normal for a while.

Aliyah had her pre-enrolment psych assessment today. It went really well and the psychologist thinks she won't have a problem getting into school. She has to compile it all and report on it and we should get the reslults next week, so then it's up to the school as to whether they enrol her or not.

I just went on FB and had a huge shock. I jumped onto a profile of one of my old school friends to see how he was going, and found out he's just passed away a couple of days ago in a motorbike accident :gloomy: I haven't spoken to him in ages and he wasn't a close friend, but he was still a friend. Craig knew him from when he did his apprenticeship also so it's a shock for him too. So sad as he had just gotten engaged a few weeks ago.

Moops

13-03-2009, 18:47

Oh Nic that is awful, what a terrible shock! :hugs:I've always told DH that there is no way he's getting a motorbike, they are so dangerous. xx

On a brighter note glad to hear everything went well at Aliyah's assessment, I'm sure she'll have no trouble getting in.

Well....we leave tomorrow!! I had great intentions of packing on Monday but guess what? I haven't really started! It's so hard with Luca around and you still need things right up to the last minute. So I think I'll get stuck into it this afternoon when Luca is asleep. I've bought quite a few snacks for Luca incase he doesn't like the plane food but I'm really hoping he does!! I called Singapore Airlines yesterday to confirm a few things and I asked if anyone was sitting next to me and they are! :no: It is going to be very hard to get Luca to sleep with other people right there, anyway it's only 22 hours!!

I've put my moby number on our fb group so if you guys can give me yours I'll text you when I get there to confirm Thursday.

Well better be off. By the way just saw of FB that KatieKitten has had another baby girl - Congrats!!!

sandralee

14-03-2009, 21:39

Man! I don't envy you Moops!! I had a whingey whining teething drooling kid all day today...there is no way I could do it - 22hrs in an enclosed space with Noah would do my head in lol!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

AliyahBlake

15-03-2009, 10:51

Hi girls. Hope you are all well. I have had a bit of a cold the last couple of days so am feeling a little under the weather. Not too bad, just enough to make me feel a bit blah!

Not sure if I'll make it to Brissy on Thursday, but I'll see what's happening. It's a fairly long drive and back with just me and the kids but will see how I feel on Wednesday and make the decision then.

I will be in or around Noosa on Monday 6th April as I have to drop the car off in Maroochydore to get a couple of things fixed. I thought I'd take the kids into Noosa Heads for a bit of a wander and play on the beach (if the weather's ok). If any of you Brissy girls would like to trek up there that day let me know and we can meet for lunch or something. I have to drop the car off around 10:30 - 11 am so I'll be driving to Noosa in the courtesy car and should be there around 11:30 - midday, then picking the car up at around 2:30ish. I realise it'll probably be busy being school hols, but I'll be there anyway so let me know!

Blake was so cute this morning - he sang a "dada song" to Craig. He's always saying dada but he actually sang it this morning and danced as well!! I wish I had the video camera with me as it was just gorgeous (even though it was 6:15 am when he did it!!).

Aliyah's being very, shall we say, trying (and that's a nice way of saying it!) lately. I think she's really bored and keeps asking me when she can go back to school. I so hope they let her into prep otherwise I think we'll drive each other crazy this year!

I have to go dress shopping this week (like anyone needs to twist my arm!) as we will be returning to NSW next week for Craig's sister's Aussie wedding celebration/reception/party thingy! I have already spotted a couple of nice things in Gympie, so will go and start trying things on during the week. We bought Blake a little suit (black with a white shirt and pink tie - that's what the bridal party guys wore at the wedding in London!) so he will match his Dad, and Aliyah will wear her flowergirl dress again. Stay tuned in a few weeks for lots of gorgeous pics on FB!!

quaver

15-03-2009, 17:50

Ab- cant wait to see some new pics of blake in his cute little suit. sounds like you are all really settling in up there. A seems like she needs school! i hope she can start soon.

moops- are you in australia yet?? hope the flight went well. I am very jelous of you all meeting up! MAKE SURE SOMEONE TAKES PICS PLEASE!!!

Well we have had a bit of a bad week. thanks for the support via fb btw. Earlier in the week i thought J was teething as he has been wingy without any symptoms than a runny nose. I took him to the drs on thurs as he seemed like he might have sore ears again as his balance was off. nup, he thought it was teething. he was coughing from 5am on fri and crying after every cough. so i thought, throat must be sore take him back. when i was at the drs his breathing was so bad he said go to hospital as he does not know what it is, but his oxygen levels were really low. bit scary but all ok, we ended up staying the night there. he was on ventalin and oxygen. he has what is a mucus plug. his lungs are full of gunk and when a bit gets disloged he cant breathe. they said it will happen again before it gets better. :(

sorry that was long winded, but it has been a full on couple of days. i am dead, zonked..gone! with not much sleep leading up, a cold myself and then not a wink of sleep on fri night. i am just glad he is ok and will be.

cant think of much more to say but i wanted to update you all.xx

sasa

15-03-2009, 22:17

Hey Everyone!

Just a quick one tonight.. i have been on the comp all afternoon with fundraising/newsletter stuff and am so over it right now.. Been slack in here as usual it seems lately :o and busy.. o so busy in rl.
Looking fwd to catching up with some of you on Thursday!! Have to come back in the morning to do personals and read a bit more so just send you all some fuzzies for now :babydust2: x Stevie

melbryan

17-03-2009, 08:39

Thanks to everyone who has congratulated us. And thanks RB for posting the arrival of our new bubs.

So far so good, mummy of 4 under 5 was never meant to be easy but hey we get by and after 5 days DH went back to work and I am just doing the bare minimum.

I am tired from waking up in the night but plan to express a bit more for her tonight so she is more settled.
She is an absolute doll and we can't see our life without her now. She is a clockwork eater and sleeper and bathed her for the first time last night that was hard with the boys wanting to help but just being in the way.

The CS was good recovery is going well and I think in a couple of weeks all will be back to normal. I hate big boobs. They hurt but they are settling down but it is hard to sleep.

The boys are all over her and killing her with kindness.
ANyway hope all is well with everyone, Ashton's nose is out of joint most of the time but he is still very little.

AliyahBlake

18-03-2009, 12:05

Nan

18-03-2009, 13:29

Hi everyone!
Haven't posted for a while because I swear BH ate my post!! I posted a huge CONGRATS to you Mel, but its not here!!!! SO..........

CONGRATULATIONS

Mel, DH & boys on the birth of your little lady!!! She is so sweet!

I jumped onto a profile of one of my old school friends to see how he was going, and found out he's just passed away a couple of days ago in a motorbike accident
OMG! How awful. Sorry to hear that. So sad when things happen like that. His poor fiancee. Sorry to hear about Aliyah's behaviour. I hear you. I could have written your post. I had a thought..........
Has it got worse since you moved? If not, just ignore this, but if so I was thinking she may be challenging you to gain some semblance of control. She's just moved to a totally foreign area, house, room, neighbourhood, possibly school etc which is a HUGE deal. I mean, its big for us so its BIGGER for the kids! Babies will tend to be more clingy, but preschoolers will rebel because they are fighting to control at least one thing in their life....them! Eden is the same (God bless her :rolleyes:) but I imagine Aliyah may be worse right now, from what you've described. I'd ask her about the move and if she feels scared, sad, unsure about things. She sounds smart! She'd probably be able to tell you. If you feel like you're getting nowhere in the conversation, I guess it just comes back to consistency and calmness. Consistency so that you deal with the behaviour and she feels secure and calmness so she knows you still love her. Listen to me preaching!!!!!! :laughing: I should take my own advice! :doh:

we bought a big cubby house!! they were on sale, floor stock for $90 reduced from $350! .........mum also bought a slide for $50 down from $280.
Awesome bargains!! Well done! Hope J is feeling better now. How scary for you.

Can you believe I missed my scan yesterday???!!!
I've done that before!! You feel like such a dill trying to explain yourself to the receptionist, but I figure they've heard it all before!! Pregnancy does bizarre things to our memories!! Good that you could get in again so soon.

The boys are all over her and killing her with kindness.
Anyway hope all is well with everyone, Ashton's nose is out of joint most of the time but he is still very little.
Awww, cute but frustrating at the same time hey? I'm sure Ash will settle down soon. I guess its just a matter of finding some time for 1-on-1 with him..........says she who only has 2 kids! :laughing: Easier said than done, huh? Glad to hear you're recovering ok.

Moops - Welcome home!!! Even if only for a little while. Hope you Brissy girls have a wonderful time tomorrow. Paint me incredibly jealous! *insert green with envy emoticon here*

sasa - You sound very busy, but like you're on top of it. Fund raising is pretty hard work isn't it? A lot of people find it hard to part with their hard earned $$$ these days.

Em & Sands - How're you doing girls???
Sorry, I know I've missed people, but Eden is at mum's for the afternoon and I really should make the most of it and tidy the house...........so it can get trashed again tonight! Aaaaahhhhh, if I don't laugh I'll cry!
Ciao!

luvmyboyz

18-03-2009, 13:56

:hair: I have been having a terrible time with Aliyah the last few days. She and I are butting heads and I feel like she has lost respect for me (I have no idea why!) and she just will not listen. I have a bad cold as well which isn't helping my mood, but I just don't know what to do with her. Craig reckons I need to be more firm and consistent with her, so I'm trying that today to see if it changes anything. It seems to help - I am trying to stand my ground with her and speak to her without losing my temper.

I have put a post in the Discipline/Behaviour section (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=245053) to see if anyone else has any advice. Just reading there has made me realise that Aliyah could be classed as a "spirited child" as she fits most of the criteria for that! I am going to read up more on it as I think Blake is heading that way too.

Sorry guys, just needed to vent as I felt really down about it all last night and almost felt like I was failing as a mother. I had a good chat with Craig - he is very firm and consistent with Aliyah and his approach works most of the time, but when I try it it doesn't have the same effect! I'm feeling a little better today about it all, but still feel like I could blow my stack any time! I really think I need some "me time" as well, but that will have to wait til she's at school and Blake's in daycare!

Hey, I understand exactly how you feel, Zade was 4 in November and he's driving me totally and utterly insane atm, I think its a lot to do with their age and them finding themselves. He started Kindy fulltime this year and I think it stems from gaining that independence and thinking they're grown up. I admit I got a bit lax on the discipline side of things so we've stepped it up a notch again and I feel like the bad mum because I'm always at him. Hes a very strong willed child so we can't allow him to get away with too much lol. I remember going through it with the other boys to and yes they do come out the other side and return to being delightful angels again.. eventually :D just lots of love & discipline needed and a good shot of brandy every now and then.. not sure if for ourselves or the child. :p

If you've forgotten, its Mandy (tally)

Congrats Mel, you must be wrapped!!

Hi to everyone else, hope you guys are all well..

Things are cruising along ok here, I'm 24wks now and the pregs not without its issues, bubs is measuring a bit small so trying to take things easy, drink lots of water to keep my fluid lvls up and hopefully get her to pack some weight on.. and if you didn't know shes a girl!!! now that was a shock to the system...

Rylans doing well, still on the reflux meds and will be for the long term yet, hes still quite little but now has a bit of chubs on, running around like a mad hatter, into everything with his brother and just so cheeky & adorable. Only has 6 teeth :eek: but I suppose they'll eventually appear.

Take it easy everyone, I will try and get back here more often, I tend to spend more time on facebook than anywhere else now :o oh and we havent told anyone irl that we're having a girl so please don't say anything on facebook.

xxx

RoarsomeMum

20-03-2009, 06:55

:smiliedance::goodvibes: Its a Girl!!!!!! AWESOME!!! xxxxx that ROCKS!! (had to scratch my head for a while to figure out who u were! relate to the FB thing, spend too much time there myself!)

Have been meaning to come in and tell u guys about Roar's Scan, FB leaves npt enough room, plus, dont want to stress the fam out since mum is so sick ATM, but its actually good news! just sounds bad.

Roar's scan showed her Cyst was leaking, and the co-ordination probs she been having, several split lips, smashed head open and walking with a HUGE lean to the left, were probably the signs that fluid was making brain swell. BUT!!!! and its a HUGE But!!!! She is absorbing that well, not unco anymore, and best of ALL!!!!!!!! her Perceptive vision is IMPROVING!!!!!!!!! :smiliedance: so we have had the decision to drain/not drain Sever/Not sever taken from our hands, and Nature provided the BEST result!!! We have to monitor her closely (most likely RCH) to make sure that the remainder drains well, they prob put a shunt in just incase. but its a good result. Her perception can be daily tested in hospi, which makes us feel better. She has also got her genetic testing results (which they did when she was 10 months, cause of the eye prob.) Turns out she has a rare deletion of the 17 gene on maternal side. causes all kinds of Immune Probs, but can be managed with a Protein type injection. Has explained ALOT of her probs. and also explains why she responded the way she did to Pre-vax testing. Its answered soooooooooooooo many Q's!!!!

If only Mum had not had a Stroke, Id be totally on cloud 9 right now. as it is, we are Stoked to have Answers FINALLY!!!!! and a good prognosis. :smiliedance:

Now off to see what u all been up to!! xxx

WELCOME HOME MEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you enjoying it, or to flat knakcker to feel anything!

Sending Get Well soon vibes to AB and James and anyone else I missed... Horrible to feel sick and to see your baby sick.. BIG hugs for u all.

AliyahBlake

20-03-2009, 08:31

That's great news Em - you guys must be so relieved. Roar's a tough little girl!!! :yelclap:
I hope your Mum gets better - is she able to communicate or move - how bad is the stroke?

Thanks for the support the other day everyone - Aliyah is probably just having a harder time with the move than what I thought she would. She usually seems pretty adaptable although that's becoming less as she grows older. I think it has unsettled her but she exhibits it in different ways. Anyway, she has a slight cold today (that she caught from me!) so she is going to rest she reckons (I don't see it lasting too long LOL!). Blake seems to have settled down and is not as clingy. He has his moments, but he knows the house better now and is happy to wander around and play etc. He gets really whingy when I'm cooking dinner at night, so dinner time is a pretty horrible time of day for us at present. I'm thinking we may have to start all having dinner together soon - which means either he has to wait longer to have his or we have to eat earlier. Not sure how it will work as I will be back at work in a couple of weeks which will throw everything out again!

We will be coming back down to NSW next week for 2 weeks. Craig's sister and her new hubby are having their Aussie wedding party next weekend, and we are going to try and visit all the people in our hometowns that we didn't get to catch up with before we left. It will be VERY busy I think!

This afternoon I am going to meet a Gympie Bubhubber for afternoon tea. She is Bubmum on here and has just moved up from Sydney herself (last week!). I had morning tea on Monday with the girl I met at the caravan park on our way up - and that was great fun - it was a morning tea that went for about 3 hours LOL - we just chatted so much we forgot the time!

Tomorrow we go to the psychologist to find out the results of Aliyah's IQ tests for school - I hope the recommendation will be a good one!!

Nan

20-03-2009, 15:11

Good luck with the results, AB & great to hear you're making new friends up there so quickly!

YAY Mandy! I hadn't realised you were having a girl! Congrats! Must be a shock to the system!! :p

Em, sorry to hear about your mum. I hope she's recovering ok. SOOOOO happy to hear Roar's good news! :goodvibes:

Right.......off to play dominoes with Eden (without Caleb wrecking them.....hhmmmmm :no: .......... :laughing:)!!!

shymmer

20-03-2009, 20:25

Oh Em! What great news! I am so glad Roar is on the mend! What a massive relief for you!!! And I hope your mum recovers well. :hugs:

AB - sounds like you are settling in well up there - very normal for the kids to be a bit put out, it's a big change for them.

Had a lovely time meeting up with Moops, Sasa and Kittylou yesterday! The kids had a blast though poor Luca took a spill. I hope he was all ok, Moops?
BTW, Xav has had a temp today. Seems in good spirits but a bit tired. She spat out ALL the nurofen I tried to giver her. Grrrr. But after a cool bath she seemed to cool off quite a bit. Is off her milk and most food.
Anyway I hope she hasn't passed anything onto the other kids yesterday.

A big sigh of relief in this house tonight . . . . the reno house is LET!!!!! WHHOOOOHOOOOO!!!! We can get our life back! Only took about 11 months. :rolleyes:
Aside from that I am dog tired. Could sleep my life away atm. So I'm off to have a nap while Xav is napping.

xxxx

sandralee

22-03-2009, 21:22

Hugs and butterfly kicks for all the pregnant mummies, I hope you have a super cruisy pregnancy!!!!!
Glad to hear your news Em!:yelclap:
Sorry I missed everyone last thurs - are you all going to do it again this week? I am very keen!
All well here, Noah has shocked me by eating veges lately, without so much as a whinge! I made up a 'power batch of super foods' in the pressure cooker - chicken, red onion, pumpkin, garlic, 5 bean mix, green veges, red lentils, multigrain iron cereal, creamed corn....I semi pureed it to reduce any drama or reaction/rejection..& we hit a jackpot lol! The little bugger must sense it when I get to 'fed up with a situation' point then he instantly seems to co-operate! WTF LOL!?! Will keep being boring and predictable with it until the batch runs out, then try something different - baby steps I guess. Might even use a bit of this vege mix over some pasta to introduce him to new textures - so that at least something would be familiar and stay the same. His eating habits have been a constant source of worry, with not wanting to try new things (unless they are leaning towards the unhealthy side and bad for him lol) & not liking the texture of most food......boy! It has been a long old road, and no doubt it may be for a while yet. I have determination on my side at the moment, so nobody messes with the mama lol.
Wow Tally the time seems to have gone so quickly with you already being 24wks!
Shymma I hope you have some time to yourself for sleep and rest in the very near future - GODSPEED! Nothing worse than being tired and NOT having the opportunity to sleep - maybe we all meet at your place and look after Xav while you have a nap, lol, we could set up a handycam so you don't miss any conversation while you sleep. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I hope the hairdresser fairy visits me tonight, cos my hairdresser has been fully booked for the past 2 wks!!! How dreadfully inconvenient LOL!
Sweet dreams to everyone and lots of love,
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Moops

24-03-2009, 18:23

Hi guys!!

Sorry I havent been in here since I arrived, I dont really have internet access where Im staying.

Just a quick note, great to finally meet Kate, Stevie and Shana! Sands we have to catch up soon! It's best to text me as I don't check my emails often.

Having a great time though missing DH alot (more than I thought I would, which is good!) so looking forward to him coming out next Saturday.

Hope u r all wellx

p.s Luca is ok after his fall, it looked so bad though! Thought he'd broken his neck!

Nan

26-03-2009, 11:19

Glad to hear you're having a good time Moops.
Hope everyone is well. Caleb had his willy operation on Tuesday, so he's very sore and feeling sorry for himself. Poor little man. It looks awful... red & swollen and it hurts him to pee. :( He was doing really well until last night when he had a bath and his outer dressing came off. It was on for young and old then! Let's just say raw skin and water aren't a good mix. :no: It has some gauze on it but the end is uncovered and exposed, so it rubs on his nappy sometimes. Every now and then he'll cry, like when it rubs or when he wees. Other than that he's ok. Eden is having a play date with a friend today so I've just got Caleb which is SO good for him. He never gets time with me on his own.
Anyway, enough rambling.....off to get him some lunch. :wave:

quaver

26-03-2009, 20:26

Hi everyone,
feels like i have not been on here in ages! it has been a bit busy latley. J has been full on whilst he has been sick and now that he is better we seem to have something on everyday.

ahem- sorry to here about your mum:hugs: but great news about roar. amazing! i spent two nights in hospital with J and i was a mess, and yet you are so strong with everything that is going on.

Ab- sounds like you are busy but going well. good news on A''s test. is she starting school next term? Good to see you are meeting lots of new people up there.

shymmer- great news about your renno house! yippee you have had that for ages. hope you get some rest. go easy on yourself

sands- i wish i had your positive attitude on food at the moment. i am trying to get J to eat more food, and chunkier food. he is so lazy. he can chew but dinner takes so long, because he sits there with his mouth shoved full for ages! i end up doing stuff around the lounge room whilst he eats:hair:

moops- hope you are enjoying being in Oz ! so great that you all met up. but that is horrible that Luca had a fall! hope he is ok.

nothing much to report here, other than the fact that i am relieved that J is much better now. but still frustrated with the food. I am finding being out at the shops more difficult at the moment as he just wants to walk everywhere. he just wont sit in the trolly anymore. is anyone else finding this? I am also finding it impossible to get him off the formula. i am trying to do it gradually but??? he is on two bottles a day and still wakes up at night?
anyway, really should go to bed.
hope you are all well
xx

sandralee

30-03-2009, 15:54

Oh quaver I am sure Moops and I both feel your pain - Luca hated fruit and Noah hated veges etc...I am only positive cos there is no other way to turn lol! He still has a loooong way to go with his eating - some days there is just too much fuss so I give him his beloved fruit and yogurt with some iron cereal mixed in. xxxxx

shymmer

30-03-2009, 18:25

Hi everyone,

I hope you are all well. How frustrating about the food Quaver . . . try not to worry too much, he'll get it eventually and Xav is still on formula too. She got sickk last weekend and went off it a lot so now is having maybe 1-2 bottles a day. She does eat more food now which is good.

So my weekend was nice but hectic. My brother got married, which was lovely, the down side was, they didn't have a proff photographer, so I borrowed a really good camera and took 500 photos . . . had it on this fancy setting to get great colour - problem was I think it slowed the shutter speed right down and consequently only about 50 photo's are NOT blurry!!!!! I was so dissapointed. NONE of the family shots turned out! And only got maybe 5 album worthy shots. Just terrible.
Anyway, others were taking photo's too, so hopefully they will get enough for an album.
Boo hoo.

Next dilema - the Mater public hospital wont take my referal - they are too busy!!!!!! So now I have to try and get in to the Royal Women's . . .
Does anyone know what happens if you can't get into a public hosp close by?? If I booked a private Ob to do the c-sec, can I stay in the public ward? Or do I have to pay for a private ward? (since the public hospital is saying they don't have room for me)
I have an appoint with my GP tomorow to ask him to send my referral off to the Royal Womens . . hope they can take me!

AliyahBlake

04-04-2009, 09:06

Hi everyone!! I'm back home at Gympie from our 2 week trip in NSW. I'm absolutely stuffed!!

We had a good couple of weeks - my SIL's wedding reception was lovely, except that my darling sweetheart daughter decided to be a grumpy little sh!t all night, and I ended up in tears at one stage!! We both eventually calmed down and ended up having a great night. I will post some pics on my FB page sometime this weekend. Both the kids looked gorgeous :D

I also had a very sad time while we were away. My dog, Pixie, had to make the trip with us as there was nowhere up here we could leave her, and she's been a bit unwell since we moved. Well she continuously became worse and while we were staying at Craig's parents' place she became quite sick, enough that we decided to get her to a vet. The news wasn't good - she had diabetes, kidney failure and her other major organs were in bad shape, so we made the awful decision to have her put to sleep :gloomy: I was pretty upset as you can imagine, but was glad I had lots to do to keep my mind off things. It was the best decision for her as she would have been miserable if we let her go on.

Another thing that has me stressed out in a major way is that I may have to find another job. ADSL can't be connected at my house as it's unsupported. My team leader is trying to figure out if we can use wireless (which we have on our own computer anyway, but it's not terribly reliable in regards to connection!). I am supposed to start on Monday but haven't heard anything else from work so it's not looking likely. Maybe I might have to sell AVON or something LOL!

I don't know if the Noosa thing will happen next week either Brissy girls - we had to change our car booking to Tuesday as we are having a meeting with the school about Aliyah's enrolment on Monday. The weather has been so bad and especially in Noosa, so I might just hang around Maroochydore once we drop the car off as I don't want to get caught in Noosa if it pours rain again!

Anyway, I hope you are all well - I'll try and catch up with all the posts over the weekend.

shymmer

05-04-2009, 22:45

Hey AB, glad you are home safely and the wedding was nice. That is very sad about your dog, but nice that she was with you atleast.
So the local exchange up there doesn't have ADSL? That seems rather backward. What a shame if you have to find another job.

Not much happening here. Xav is back to sleeping all day and up all night. It started after a late night at my brothers wedding. A few more restless nights + Dh getting her up rather than encouraging her to go back to sleep and it's all backwards again. It takes next to nothing to get her out of pattern. :rolleyes:

Still don't know what hospital I'm going to with this baby. Trying the Mater again as Dr said RWBH will just say no since I'm not in their catchment. Anyway, did a bit of research and RWBH and Logan are the two busiest maternity hosps in QLD or something, so I don't want to go to either of them.

Hope you are all well.
xxx

melbryan

09-04-2009, 06:54

Hi to all the Novemeber mummies I wanted to come on here and say thankyou for all your lovely comments on facebook.

This is how it went I went to the doc on Mon I had written all these things down about Ashton and took them to the GP and and she sent us for blood tests I took him on Tues then they rang about 10pm saying i had to take him to emergency at Westmead his sugar levels were about 28.7 when they should have been 4-5. He could go into a diabetic coma. He was admitted to emergency at 11pm then I stayed with him there till 5.30am he was so dry and was vomitting as they monitored him and he has now been in intensive care for 2 nights he is very weak and tired. There are lots of tubes and canulas in all limbs. It is manageable and i think God has blessed us as there are alot sicker kids there than Ashton. He is moving intot he diabetic ward today and alot is ahead for us and with a 4 wk old baby it is not easy but we will get through everyone ( friends and family) have been helping so feel like I can face another day.
All I can say is a mum knows their kids and if you feel something is not right get it checked it could have meant the difference between losing Ashton which I just couldn't bare he is a such an angel and am lucky he has entered our life but he has so much more to teach us. I am all teared out but at the same time can't wait to bring our Ashton home to cuddle him. Hold your kids close as tomorrow could be the day.!!!

Nan

09-04-2009, 20:42

Awww, Mel. So true. You've made me appreciate my 2 little ratbags a lot more, so I thank you! :hugs: So sorry you guys and Ashton had to go through this. I'm SO glad he's on the mend and you have strategies for the future. I had no idea it was that bad.

shymmer - I hope you 'get' a hospital soon! The uncertainty would bug me. I REALLY hope you can switch Xav back again, because you're gonna die if she's like this plus you have a newborn. Please....I don't mean to sound negative, I'm just looking out for your well-being. :hugs:

AB - Hope you find another job soon. Sorry to hear about your dog. How is Aliyah now?

Caleb is healing well and looking like taking his first steps any day now. :yelclap: He is talking a mile a minute. This past month Shane and I have been astounded at what he says.....and in the right context too. He has also started with 2 word sentences. :eek: The other day in the supermarket we had a full conversation! He said "Wook (look) mumma." *pointed to a wiggles drink on the shelf* I said "What can you see Caleb?". He said "Woogies (wiggles lol)!" I said "Yes, a wiggles drink isn't it?" He says "woogies jooooooos (juice!!)" and clapped his hands!
He's breaking the rules!!! People keep telling me boys generally walk then talk, but not mine! My kids take after their mum. Uncoordinated chatterboxes! :laughing: Nah, its not that bad!
Anyway, enough chatter. I'm just so glad Shane is on holidays for 2 weeks as of tonight. :smiliedance:

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!
Heavenly blessings to all your families. xoxo

shymmer

11-04-2009, 15:55

Happy Easter girls!

Mel - my gosh. As overwhelmng as it all must certainly be, it is such a wonderful thing that we live in todays solciety and are able to help our loved ones! I'm glad your family is helping you so you don't feel too swamped.
All my love and well wishes for little Ashton.

Wow Nan - that talking is really great! Xav has only JUST begun to take steps too. She took about ten in a row the other day, but she is sooo reluctant to keep practicing! lol

Quaver - love the biz name! Very exciting for you to be looking toward your own business soon! And go the leash - you are dead right, better a safe child on a lead than a lost child.
Another good idea is to write your phone/mob number on thier upper arm so if your child does get lost authorities/good samaritan have a number to call.

Still no news on the hospy front. But Xav is back to night sleeping!!!! She is cutting an upper molar and it's been giving her real grief poor little thing.

Hope you are all having a nice long weekend.
xxx

Moops

15-04-2009, 09:05

Hi everyone!

Sorry I've been slack, I don't really get a chance to use the net but we are still here! Today is quite a nice day but its rained nearly everyday that we've been here!! I feel bad for DH but at least its been hot which is a nice change from London.

Being doing the tourist things, been to Australia Zoo, Gold Coast, Redcliffe, Southbank etc and spending lots of time with family and friends.

Today I have to clear out my storage facility that Ive been paying for whilst I've been away - 3 years! I have to get rid of all my mums things so it's probably going to be a bit emotional but needs to be done.

Anyway hope you are all well and I'll touch base again soon, miss u guys!! xx

Lozie

16-04-2009, 09:22

Hey all!!

How is everyone?? My net has been down for ages cause we renovating! Everything is great here Yesterday I got a :bfp::eek: exciting but terrifying! How will i go with 4 kids under 5 OMG! It's a secret for now really dont wanna hear the cr@p my family will go on with so please keep it on here, I did get af last month but only for a few days i usually go about 7 days but not sure what was the go with all that troubles I missed to other Dr's apps cause i had to work :rolleyes: And i feeling different already with this one i can EAT!!:smiliedance: And no sign of MS atm :fingerscrossed: i dont get any!!! I should be about 6 weeks or so trying to get to the drs soon to see whats happening and all that .... god i can wait for blood tests LOL!

Anyways Balin is fantastic talk heaps he never shuts up sometime he makes sense other times he doesnt very amusing to watch him be frustrated and not be able to vocalise in english LOL he ends up laughing at himself too has his mumma's sense of humor i think :P

Anyways how are you all?? Shymmer hows the hospital search going?? Logan is pretty cruddy my friend went there a few months back said they were mostly aholes hope you find a good one soon have you tryed the redlands they are a great hospi but i cant be stuffed going back there so we have agreed to have a homebirth this time looking into middes and doulas now is so exciting!

Moops how is ur holiday going i know about the rain it would suck for you but great for us! Today is a beautiful day hope you can get out and do fun stuff

Quaver Thats awesome!!! Will you post orders?? I could really go a lovely cake soon LOL Hope it all pans out for ya!!!

I know i've missed ppl and i have been reading but my brain is stuffed and have a million and one things to do today before going to work so hugs and love to all and i'll be back a little later when my house resembles a home again everything is all over the place need to get it orgainsed the tilers are comming tomoror and we kinda have to be orgainsed LOL

Take care lovlies :hugs:

shymmer

16-04-2009, 16:20

Wow Lozie!! Congratulations!!!! Your home is going to be SO BUSY!! My Bro and wife had four boys under 5ys . . . hectic, but lovely to have a big family!

Moops, glad you are enjoying yourself. Yes the rain is a pain, I know. I'm ready for summer again .. . but we are going in the opposite direction!

Still nothing from the Mater . . .and I'm 18weeks already!!!! I'm getting the feeling they are just ignoring referrals they can't/wont take. Yes, Lozie I am considering Redlands, I'd be happy to go there but I can't seem to find info on thier catchment area - I don't think I am in it though. I really don't want to go to Logan!!

I have a question - Senario #1 - having trouble finding info on this . . . .
My Doc suggested using a private Ob (who bulk bills as I have no private cover), which I will consider (even paying for one), but how do I then be admitted to hospital as a public patient?? So I'm not paying for the theatre/hospy stay costs??? You can do that I'm pretty sure - but how does it work?

Also, senario #2:
Say I pay for private Ob, I will get some back on medicare. But if I have to pay for hospital as well (private = $1000's out of pocket, no rebate) I am told I can claim it on tax. How does that work?
Sorry for my ignorance. :o
I'll post these questions in the hospital section too, just though maybe one of you might know.

xxxxxx

AliyahBlake

17-04-2009, 08:10

Hey girls! Long time no see on here - I've tried to get on a few times lately but my wireless broadband is a bit temperamental! I hope you all had a great Easter and didn't make yourselves sick on too much chocolate!

So the local exchange up there doesn't have ADSL? That seems rather backward. What a shame if you have to find another job.

Well, it's all a bit confusing re: the ADSL situation......we can get ADSL broadband in Gympie, but the exchange is apparently full, so won't accept anymore broadband applications. On the other hand, I think it's a blessing in disguise - after 3 years of working at home in an office I was beginning to get a little tired of it, and I now have a casual job at the local private hospital (starting in a week or two!). I am looking forward to getting back to working with people face-to-face again and to redevelop my clinical skills. I can also try and concentrate on getting my remedial massage up to scratch again so I may be able to start up my own business in the next 6 - 12 months. I have wanted to do that for ages but never had the opportunity....now I do!! :goodvibes: I think all of this has happened for a reason, and I know I was never destined to do only nursing, so here goes!

The other day in the supermarket we had a full conversation! He said "Wook (look) mumma." *pointed to a wiggles drink on the shelf* I said "What can you see Caleb?". He said "Woogies (wiggles lol)!" I said "Yes, a wiggles drink isn't it?" He says "woogies jooooooos (juice!!)" and clapped his hands!
How gorgeous Nan!! Blake's still grunting alot, and says a few words here and there, but is definitely not up to that stage.

i have come up with the name for my business finally. and the cakes are getting better everytime i make one. so i am in the process of learning and sorting it all out so i can launch by the beginning of next year. my class teacher said that i would be up to scratch if i keep going in about 2 or 3 months. woohoo. So "Flutterbye Cakes" here we come. quite excited about it. for the moment i am willing to make cakes for free for practice, if anyone wants one- in sydney of course!!

:yelclap: Well done Quaver!! Sounds fantastic - I'd love to sample some of your creations, but would have to drive a day to get there!

Everything is great here Yesterday I got a :bfp::eek: exciting but terrifying!

OMG CONGRATULATIONS!!!!:smiliedance:

Still nothing from the Mater . . .and I'm 18weeks already!!!! I'm getting the feeling they are just ignoring referrals they can't/wont take.

That would be so damn frustrating - good luck with it. I am sorry, I don't really know the answer to your hospital/obstetrician questions because I had both my kids in the public hospital with Medicare.

Well, I've been quite busy since we got back from our NSW trip. I have found a job (as I mentioned before) and I am doing a refresher massage course. Aliyah has been accepted into prep and starts next Tuesday (thank God - she is so bored here and and we are all ready to kill each other LOL!). I'm considering putting Blake in daycare for one or two days a week so I can make myself available for more shifts (and/or have a day or two to myself!). I caught up with Sands yesterday, as well as Noah, Andy and Sands' dad on their way through Gympie. Today I'll be catching up with Ffrenchstar and Bubmum for a cuppa, so my social life is quite good in this little town :D

We have had so much rain lately - the Mary River flooded a few days ago which blocked off our main entrance into town. It was OK though as we had another way into town that was higher so we could still get through. Out backyard has been a wet muddy mess but it's been hot and sunny the last two days so it's finally drying out. I'm definitely not used to having a boy, because Blake has loved the mud and has had to have a couple of quick baths a day and several clothes changes!

Anyway, gotta go and get some stuff ready for our outing, so will catch up with you all later.

shymmer

17-04-2009, 10:00

Heheh AB . . . funny you say your 'boy' gets muddy, Xav LOVES playng with water outside (dog's bowl) and gets absolutely filthy! Our backyard is a bit of a swamp too and she get drenched and caked in dirt then complains about her wet pants. lol. I'm quite sure her clothes are getting ruined by it - I've learned to make sure she is in old stuff now! And yep, a couple baths per day is the norm sometimes!
And that's wonderful about your new job! When one door closes another opens! Yayyy!!!

Well, I've given up on the Mater. No news by now is another 'no' I reckon. So I just phoned Redland Hospy to ask what my chances were of being accepted there and 'she' said they don't turn anyone away, so just to get my Doc to send the referral.
So my appoint with my GP isn't until Monday, but I phoned his office and asked the receptionist (who is really lovely) if he could send my referral in as soon as he is able (today hopefully). She will let me know if it gets done, nice of her huh?
So fingers and toes crossed the hospital staff has it right and they wont turn me away. I do think I am in thier service district actually - finally found a map on the Qld Govt website. Phew!
It's a nice hopsy too, so I'll be really happy if I get in, even though it's about a 40min drive away. Atleast with a c-sec it wont be a mad dash over there.
I couldn't sleep last night I was so worried about where I would go! Hope it pans out.:fingerscrossed:

Well, my little angel is sleeping in 14hr stints! Sounds great, but she still wants to be awake over a 12hr period (with nap), so bedtime was 1.30am last night! Cheeky thing. I'm trying to convince her to watch Bear in the Big Blue House so I can have a break from Hi 5. LOL.

Have a lovely weekend girls.

Lozie

17-04-2009, 14:24

LMAO Ab about muddy blake you should have seen our boys with all that rain they are sheep so one starts eating mud and the other two follow LOL it was good to get a fair drenching tho god knows we need it!

Shymmer I'm pretty sure the redlands take just about anyone within a reasonable distance i mean if ur close to logan it's not that much further to go to redlands ya know get a referal and get up there do u have a friend closer to the redlands than you maybe just give them that address or something? It is a good hospital but i am soo over hospitials i cant wait to start planning my homebirth,

Got my due date yesterday 20th of dec so we be having an xmas baby LOL had to get a blood test too because the 2nd line on the wee test was very faint! so arrggghhh to needles!!!

Anyones bubba's being seriously naughty??? Balin is soo cheeky and atm anything i say he'll do the oppisite is really annoying and randomly hitting his brothers or pulling their hair!! gosh its driving me mental and when i say it's naughty and he's a naughty boy for hitting or pulling hair he runs off saying NUP and laughing!! god its frustrating!!

Well enough from me i need to be off here and do some washing! take care ladies! :goodvibes::flowerz:

Moops

17-04-2009, 19:43

Just a quick one, congrats Lozie!! Wow so many new babies how exciting! My best mate in the UK whose Son is born on the same day as Luca told me last night she is 6 weeks pregnant so I'm feeling very jealous and clucky! We had planned to start trying whilst we were here but I went off the pill and it seems AF has gone haywire, haven't had one since the end of Feb. My boobs are really sore too, I would think I was pg if it wasn't for the lack of sex!

Feeling a bit sad to be leaving next Friday!! Trying to do last minute things and seeing people I hadn't fitted in yet so it's been a bit hectic!

Hope u are all well, congrats on the new job AB and Shymmer on getting a hospy - sounds like you've been having a nightmare! xx

Forgot to say on the naughtiness thing, Luca has been awful! He has started climbing on absolutely everything including the dining table and pays no attention when we say no or he throws a MASSIVE tantrum. He has started throwing himself on the floor, bucking arond it's really bad! He's also become really violent he hits everyone! What to do??!

quaver

19-04-2009, 19:51

Lozie- CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! how exciting for you. and dont worry will keep it to BH only :) I really hope your morning sickness stays away! (means there is hope for us all too!)

shymmer- not really sure about the whole process. I found when i was looking into private ob that everyone i talked to was different. some were not covered by my particular health company even though i am on the top level cover. i think it is best to ring around. I ended up not even being helped out by my insurance for the ob. i ended up hitting the medicare threshold anyway. good luck. woops just read your next post!- glad you are getting it sorted!

Ab- you are so hard to keep up with! I get exausted reading your posts! I hope the floods settle down. good on you with your new job and the massage course! and yay for A going back to school!!!!

moops- leaving already! gez that has gone quick. I hope that you have a fantastic last week. and that it gets:sunshine: for you!!! oh and AF!- why when you want it, i swear mind of its own!

Have had a great weekend. I went to melbourne for the night with my mum to do some shopping and go and see wicked. It was great to have no interuptions and to actually buy some new clothes! i have been desperate. i have lost 10kgs and my post J clothes are too big but i am not quite at pre J clothes! I missed my boys like crazy but it was so good to have a break. I did not realise how much my mum has slowed down though :(

ok- yep James has been a real charmer too on the ''determined" or "spirited" front. if there is something that he can get into that he should not- he will! it does drive me a little nuts! i just borrowed a toddler taming dvd from the library (cant be bothered reading the whole book!) so i will let you know if i get some tips. fun fun fun! at least we know we are not alone!!!!!

Nan

21-04-2009, 21:48

Hi girls!
Wow - so much rain in the East....can you please send some our way? The soil is so dry and cracked here, its awful. Today Eden poured some water from her watering can onto our lawn and it sat there for about 5 mins before painstakingly seeping into the soil!!!!!! Was so weird to watch. :(

Moops - I'm glad you're making the best of it despite the rain. You just can't predict it can you? Not these days. Luca sounds like he's becoming a handful for you.

On the behaviour thing: I'm dealing with a 3 year old who is extremely stubborn and disobedient at the moment - not fun! :no: We're smackers in this house. Must admit Caleb is nowhere near as willful as Eden was at the same age, but he has had the odd smack on the hand when he knows he's done the wrong thing. Time out works much better for Eden. She hates the isolation. You do have to punish bad behaviour, I think. Kids need to learn early on that there are consequences for all actions and decisions no matter if they are bad or good. So, we reward good behaviour too. You need to try a variety of things and work out what your child doesn't like and what they'll respond to. Some kids respond best if you start taking away favourite toys, some respond best to smacking, some respond best to time out. You do what brings about the desired behaviour for your child.

shymmer - YAY for getting a hospital! Must be a load off your mind. I hope Xav continues with the night sleep! Don't know much about private obs, but the out of pocket expenses thing is in the deductions section of your tax return. If your medical expenses (doctor trips, hospital stays etc - not sure about prescriptions?) are over $1000 you can clame them. So you don't get all of it back but you'd get a bit.

Lozie - CONGRATULATIONS!!! :flowerz: SO SUPER EXCITED for you!! How wonderful. Hope you have a happy, healthy pregnancy girl!!!

AB - How were Aliyah's first few days? She looks so grown up in her uniform! Good luck on the massage front. Kinda makes me want to live near you!! ;) Sounds like working p/t will work out really well.

quaver - How cool that you got to go to Melbourne. I'm so jealous! Gotta love a time out treat! Your new business venture sounds fab. All the best with it. You certainly have the talent.

A big HELLO and :hugs: to everyone else who has been quiet lately. Hope you're all busy little socialites and not sleep deprived mummas!!

Ciao lovelies!!!!! xoxoxoxo

Oh......... forgot to say (seriously, how could I forget?! lol) Caleb took 6 steps a few days ago!!! :yelclap: Woohoo! He's on his way. Still prefers the old bum shuffle though. He's perfected it and is now so super fast that walking just seems tedious! lol

Lozie

23-04-2009, 08:35

Yay Nan!! go Caleb!!! That is awesome!! :smiliedance:

Symmer that fantastic i kwen they would take u on it is a great hospital but as i said before i wont be going back there! :goodvibes:

everything is fine here Balin is his usually naughty self now he has an obssession with phones if i'm on one or it's sitting on the hook he will climb walls to get at one quite funny and has taken to saying NO WAY alot! seriously irritating ( somewhat funny:o) cause i just ask a question and i get a big NO WAY! I try not to laugh but it's soo hard not to laugh!! LMAO

So annoyed at my annoying quacky Dr i tell ya! he is such a fricken quack, I told him about my leaning towards a homebirth and he flat out told me how irresponsible i would be and how dangerous it is for baby to be born at home with a qualified midwife or not. I then told him about how i was thinking of a water birth as well and he gave me the same answers god made me so angry i though we lived in a era of choice with the right to make our own choices with out being judged!
So anyways now i have that rant over with i feel a little better! :p Well i have told the world about baby! and i feel much better i'm crappy at keeping secrets like that anyways especially if they are mine LOL.
Take care lovelies i shall be back soonish must now drink 1LT of water for my dating scan soon will be fun i know LMAO :wave:

Nan

24-04-2009, 12:30

Hope all goes well at the scan, Loz. I think you should go see another doctor - one who will be more supportive. You don't want stuff like that in your head for the next 9 months. :no: Even though I'd never have a home birth (for me the concept of going to hospital is so exciting!! :o and our local hospital is so lovely) I think he is very backwards in his opinion.

Ok...... so our current line of thought is to start TTC in a few weeks time. Shane has finally come around. SSSHHHHHHHHH! Its a secret! :goodvibes:

quaver

24-04-2009, 17:45

HORRAY FOR CALEB!!!!:smiliedance:

Nan

28-04-2009, 13:49

Thanks girls! He's taken about 10 steps since but the bum shuffle is so much faster that he still prefers it. At kindergym this morning he walked about 20% of the time I reckon! :thumbsup:

Well, Shane went back to work yesterday so we're back to normal routine here. Since my last post asking for rain we've had 3 days of non-stop pelting down. :yelclap: :smiliedance: My garden is cheering!!!!!!!! My kids are going nuts!!!!!!!! Today is nicer though. Cold but not raining.

I'm really craving chocolate at the moment but we have none in the house. :crying:

On the relationship front, Shane and I had another fight Sunday night. I'm really getting over things changing for a couple of weeks then going back to normal after that. I'll see how long this round lasts for. Sounds really awful I know but I have my faults to fix as well. Trust me! :o I really don't want to bring another child into the family until things are sorted for good. Nothing major, just lots of little things that tick me off.

Hope everyone is well. Hugs to all. :hugs:

shymmer

29-04-2009, 14:17

Hey Nan, sorry to hear things are a little off kilter with your DH. Have you read The Five Love Languages, by Gary Chapman? It's a really great book for understanding how you need your partner to show love to you in order to feel loved. If they can show love in 'your' way (and you show love in the way they need) then it really really helps you get over the little stuff! Just a thought for you if you're feeling a bit unloved atm. :D

Well, had my morph scan today, can you believe I turned up an hour early :rolleyes:. Preg brain has got me BAD this time around. Anyway, all looks good at this stage. And . . . . Xav is getting a little . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

SISTER!!!!
Yayyyyyy!!!!!!

Moops

29-04-2009, 20:43

HUGE CONGRATS S!!!!! That is fantastic!!! Were you hoping for another girl? Wow I didn't think you were that far along yet, time has just flown by! xxxxx

Well we are back! Feels so weird to be home, Luca seems happy enough playing with all his toys but I'm already feeling depressed about getting back into the daily grind! I have so much more freedom in Australia, I tend to feel a little fenced in here. Anyway I took Luca to a new playgroup this morning and this afternoon he has a gym class then tomorrow he has funky feet so I'm trying to keep busy!

Luca is waking up every morning around 4am and will only go to sleep after a bottle, hope this doesn't last too long! We got back on Saturday night at 7pm and Luca had already had 6 hours of his nightly sleep so we kept him up till 11pm (we were dead on our feet!) and he slept till 4am then was up till 9am! Hopefully he will adjust soon!

Moops

05-05-2009, 20:03

Where is everyone??!!:wave: To be honest I've been really slack with BH and am thinking of not really coming on here anymore. I know you all so well on FB I just forget to come on here!

Hope everyone is doing well x

sandralee

11-05-2009, 19:31

Hi lovely ladies! I am the same Moops, this is my first time on here in ages. I find that the limited time I spend on the computer just flies by, as there are so many things I use it for - during the day I have started plugging my laptop into the kitchen, so that I can have a quick look every now and then. Noah is still cutting molars like some of the other bubs, and seems to have angel weeks and devil weeks intermittently! He has a scarey temper if things don't go his way, then can turn into a complete darling. He is a turd sometimes in the morning when I go in to get him out of his cot - he won't let me pick him up, then starts crying, then screaming..not a really nice way to start the day. Moops, he can be quite violent too, lots of sudden hitting or 'cat scratches' on the face that sting for a day or two afterwards. His biting seems to be dying down a lot - he used to do it every time he got excited or frustrated - we would look him in the eyes and say 'no biting, it hurts, ouch' very firmly. Then, if he did it again to test us, we would repeat it and also put him down on the floor, or move away from him (without paying it too much attention to the whole business/giving a reaction etc)
Lozie I hope your pregnancy is going smoothly - we still haven't got around to much 'trying' LOL! Only did it twice last month and was literally just before AF, and just after, so my chances of ovulating at that time would have been slim haha. For a moment I was starting to think I was pregnant cos AF was a week late (got it on saturday)..I don't know about you guys but it makes it feel clinical to actually TRY to fall pregnant. Though, I must say, for this month I feel like just going for it! I probably won't though lol.
We bought Noah a bed to get used to in advance, he doesn't deal with some changes very well - so we are doing everything we can for a smooth transition. Like I said on FB though, we are in no rush, and maybe he can have day sleeps in it. We started freaking out about him getting out of his cot, and didn't want to be thrown in the deep end when that became our reality.. he squeals whenever he sees it in his room (after learning how to squeal in a high pitch like some kid at gymboree -MEH!!!) & loves to stand up and walk around on it, before toppling over the edge. Now he DEFINITELY isn't into nappy change time cos all he wants to do is play on his bed!!! grrr!! More challenges!
He is still on a boring same-sh!t-different-day diet for the most part..although I did see him eat a bean from our vege garden, and as soon as I said 'good boy Noah' he spat it out and threw the bean away.
Starting to get sooky with Andy leaving him this november - he is panicking about being poverty stricken, as a first yr apprentice only gets $250 a week! Eek! Told him I would freeze some meals and drop him off food parcels hehe. At least he won't have much money to party with in nightclubs!
Steve is great, he seems to be helping more than ever and our relationship is really strong. He and Andrew however, still mostly clash. I backed out of a mothers day lunch at my MIL's cos I was thinking about visiting my own mum who was in briz at my sisters place..when something came over me..I palmed Noah off to Steve & stayed home to clean in peace LOL!!! I had so much fun hooning around without Noah at my feet, who would have thought housework could be so much fun! I made a white russian cocktail and just went for it. Had just over 5hrs, with only Andy and I at home.
Told my mum she is welcome to visit while she is staying in brisbane, but NOT welcome to butt in to any parenting stuff..she didn't take it too well but I don't mind, so glad I got that off my chest with her cos she is quite controlling & critical, and hates it when people stand up to her. Kinda sad really.
I hope everyone is happy and healthy and lovin' life! May your days be filled with those things that give you the greatest joy, love Sands xoxoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox:D

MellieMumof2

14-05-2009, 16:25

Hi everyone hope you don't mind me joining in here I'm Mellie and i have a nov bub Ebony she was born nov 26 and she is just a delight, she has about 9 teeth and is full on walking and she keeps me very busy looking forward to getting to know you all.

Moops

17-05-2009, 20:11

Hi Mellie!

Welcome to the group! You've joined at an unusually quiet period in here at the moment, we used to talk for pages and pages a day! I guess our little toddlers are keeping us too busy now! Please stick around though, we are a friendly bunch :wave:

Well I think I have some exciting news! No I'm not pg, but currently trying so will keep you posted! DH is thinking of getting transferred to his works Brisbane office for a year or so! The London office is closing so either he will get moved to Switzerland, get made redundant or have to find another job. I wouldn't mind moving to Switzerland but think I'm more excited at coming home for a year!! Please don't mention anything of FB as nothing is for certain yet! xx

tally

18-05-2009, 00:05

Hi all, its been ages again since I've posted, but try and keep track on facebook, not doing a good job at that either.

Moops fingers crossed you get to come home for a year!!

Rys a cheeky little devil, we're having some major separation issues and he wont go to anyone but DH and myself :rolleyes: lovely child.. not sure how we're going to go when I have this baby lol. Oh! and in the last couple of days the little blighter has decided that headbutting the tiles whilst having a tantrum is the way to go!!:o

I'm just about to hit 33 weeks which means going on history I've got about 5wks left!! its gone so fast its not funny.

Hope everyone is well!!

sandralee

19-05-2009, 19:08

OMG MOOPS I AM SO EXCITED THAT YOU MAY BE MOVING HERE FOR A WHILE!!!!!! Yeah, much better than switzerland lol - don't they have all those cholera outbreaks over there? <wink wink> Best wishes for TTC - we are going to be 'trying' at the same time lol - well I have absolutely no clue when I ovulate or anything, so I guess my chances may be a bit slim. Feels so clinical too when you agree to go into TTC mode.. Noah 'happened' so quickly after our first attempt and I had only just stopped taking the pill a month before. Haha I read somewhere that to fall pregnant, you should BD every second day after AF finishes (or by day 7 of your cycle)..for the rest of your cycle. So 3 wks of lovin' should do the trick lol! If you do it every second night, as opposed to every night, it strengthens the sperm apparently. :D Haha keep us posted! xx
Welcome to the Nov Mummies group!!!:hugs: Like Moops said, we don't come in here as often as we used to (i.e. before facebook lol) - but it's great for catching up and sharing news that we don't want our friends and family on facebook to read/know about. This place brings out our 'secret squirrel' sides hehe!
Tally the time has gone so fast - I am still shocked that some have gone on to have more already lol, some days I look at Noah and get terrified of having another one to deal with at the same time. Today he was the perfect little angel with no mood swings, played constantly (and quietly) by himself, I didn't have to say 'no' for anything, he had a 2hr sleep..... it was honestly paradise, and he was the happiest I have ever seen him. At least I know he is capable of having a long stint of angel-like qualities LOL!!! He normally goes nuts if he can't go outside, and it was raining today - so he amazed me even more.
Sorry if I offended anyone with a pic I posted yesterday - my aunt was a bit of a cow and posted a gross pic of me on her page...so I put up one of my bare butt, as if to say 'kiss my ***' - in a cryptic kind of way. I have a strange mind.. I know that....lol xoxoxoxoxox

shymmer

19-05-2009, 19:24

Hello girls,

Add me to the 'slack group' . .I know, I know.

Welcome Mellie! Nice to have another person to chat with! Ebony is a gorgeous name!

Wow Sands, Noah really gives you a run for you money huh? The 'terrible two's' are now you know, not when they are actually two - it's when they are turning two!

Gee Moops - it would be so lovely for you to have a year in Bris!

Tally - wow, only 5weeks left potentially??? Are you ready??????

Well, I'm back after a week with the in-laws up north. It was a nice enough week. Not exactly a holiday though- DH ended up spending every day working with his dad on the new home they are building, so we didn't do anything together except one day when we all went out for lunch. Nice to be home in our own space and can make some mess!!! DD went well on her first plane trip. Of course she just wanted to walk up and down the eilse constantly, and she would touch the passengers and wait for them to notice her before moving on. lol. She is such a people person!

I'm exanding as I sit here. I swear! I'm 22wks now. My 20wk scan showed the placenta is anterior and low. So I'll have another scan at 33wks to see where it is. I'm booked in to Redlands, but they are curently zoning thier catchmant area, so if that comes into effect before Sep, I might be transered to Ipswich.:rolleyes: And then if the 33wk scan shows the placenta to be Acreta/Percreta then I'll probably be referred to the Mater for delivery.:rolleyes: Sheesh.

Ok. better go get this little girl into the bath. Hope you are all well!

Lozie

21-05-2009, 09:23

Hi all

I'll put my hand up for being slack too! I suck at this everytime i've been getting on to post Dh will come in and want it or the kids will start annoying me i really cant get any peace!

Hi Millie and Welcome :wave:

Moops thats awesome ur coming back even if it is only for a yr!! And good luck ttc sometimes i wish we could ttc but these things happen i suppose everything happens for a reason, probaly cause if we tried to plan it we would more then likely back out of it LOL

Shymmer ipswich isnt too bad but you have to shear a room with about 4 other mothers i think my aunt had he bub there in 07 she seemed ok with it. I wanna go to the mater If i cant find a midwife but stupid zoning i might be naughty and say i live with my brother LOL then i'll get in :D

Sands oh the joys of family LOL and good luck ttc just go with the flow i rekon it'll happen one way or another :yes:

Anyways all is good with Baby had another dating scan yesterday is bub was measuring 8wks 6days which puts my dute date as xmas eve should be fun. My doc has refered me to the redlands even tho i dont wanna go back there and i am struggling to find a midwife for a home birth:rolleyes: it all seems to be getting beyond me.

Anyways Balin is good but is a sick lil monster today he was up half the night with a horrible fever and was hulicinating was scary he seems to be the only one to do that when he has a fever i used to when i was very little too. I'm thinking it could be teeth but you never know So i'm gonna see how he goes til about 3pm and then take him to the dr to be safe.

Dont think there is much else i can talk about now LOL Oh i know stop being slack that goes for me as well :p take care ladies!!

Moops

22-05-2009, 04:55

Hi everyone!

Wow Shana that has gone quickly! How are you feeling? Have you thought of any names yet??!

Congrats again Lozie! Between you and S it sounds really complicated to find a place to give birth, I didn't realise you had to research and try to get in it sounds awful and un necessarily stressful!

Well DH have been ttc and I have been using the ovulation sticks but I didn't get a positive one all month so I went to the Dr and had some blood tests and the I got the results today and I didn't ovulate all month. I have to have another test on day 2-5 (when I end up getting af) to see if the hormone is there, if not I guess I will need to go on some fertility drug??! I have been really down today thinking I won't be able to get pg and its going to be a long struggle, we are just going to keep on trying (although we have no idea when is best) and see what happens.

Nothing has been decided about moving to Australia although I would love to see you guys more often! I just wish I knew where we were going whether it is staying here, going up north, Australia or Switzerland!

I joined the gym today! I've been wanting to do it for a while so I just went for it today. They have a creche and do toddler swimming lessons as well, I really want to do some exercise and have a bit of time to myself! I never leave Luca with anyone so this will be a first!

Hope you are well! xx

shymmer

26-05-2009, 13:49

Hey girls,

Yay Moops - for joining the gym! it will be hard going at first but once you get into it, you'll feel so much better and have more energy! I miss being able to go more often.
It isn't suppposed to be this difficult to get into a hosiptal here (through Public). I had no problem at all getting into the Mater with Xav. I just went to the wrong doctor this time I think (the suburb - not the Doc). My SIL is expecting (shhhhh ;) no one knows) and she has got into Mater straight away. Can't say I'm not a bit envious. Redlands should be fine, but it is an hour drive away!

Lozie - you've turned me off Ipswich now. lol. I don't want to share with 4 other women! Not when I will be there for 5 days. I hope you find a good middie for your birth!

Well, DD has a shiner on her cheek. She was throwing a tanty and threw herslef on the floor and hit her cheek bone fair on the ground. Poor thing. And we've just had a week of sleeping all day, up all night, but thankfully seem to be back on track as of last night. Not sure what tirggered it. We did go up north for a week to visit PIL, and I think she needed some sleep catch up from such a big week. Me too!

Can you believe she is STILL not walking consistantly! She takes steps and will walk if you hold one hand, but other than that - she flies around on her knees! She's quick too!

Anyone thinking of or doing toilet training yet? I wouldn't even be thinking of it yet, except DD acknowledges when she's done a poo and yesterday she was passing wind and told me "poo" - before she actually did it (which was immenent). I thought at the time - if I had a potty I could quickly go sit her on it, but I didn't want to hold her over the toilet because I thought she might feel unsafe and get scared of it. So I got a potty and a toilet seat insert today and just thought I'd see how she reacts to them at next opportunity. I'm really not looking forward to cleaning the potty though. Yuck!

Take care girls! Hope you and all your toddlers are well!

AliyahBlake

31-05-2009, 10:58

Hi girls!!! OMG I have been soooooo slack about coming on here. I spend so much time on FB that I forget about this group!! Sorry! :o

Hi Mellie - welcome to our little November group - as Moops said, we are usually much more chatty but I think our kids (and Facebook) are taking up a fair bit of our time LOL. Feel free to PM one of us if you'd like to add any of us as friends on FB :D

Good to hear that things are going well for all you pregnant mums - must say I certainly don't envy you guys! I am well and truly over cluckiness and babies! Don't think I could ever do all this again.

That's be great Moops, if you were to come back to Oz for a while - might actually get to meet you if that happens LOL!! Good luck with the hormones - I think mine were a bit AWOL when we were trying for Blake as it took almost 12 months to conceive him....don't worry yourself too much :)

Shymmer - I don't think I'll start Blake on the potty at least til the end of the year. I trained Aliyah when she was 2 1/2 and she caught on really quickly (tried her at 2 and she wasn't interested, but that extra 6 months made a huge difference). Every kid is different so try her when you think she's ready. I used a great book called "Toilet Training without Tears or Trauma" by Penny Warner and Paula Kelly when I trained Aliyah and it was really helpful.

Blake is going through a "stage" - same sort of stage Aliyah went through at 18 months I think. He has started chucking tantys big time when he doesn't get his own way, and he's not sleeping well at night (although last night my prayers for sleep were answered because he slept through until 6 am!). I hope he does start sleeping properly again, otherwise we'll have to start CC (which I know works, but I'm not keen on having to do it!). He's getting pretty clingy with me, but I'm not sure if it's because he's overtired or it's an age thing. He's also at the point now where he doesn't like his stroller and wants to walk everywhere, so it takes ages to do anything now!!

I am still jobless - still no ADSL connection here so it doesn't look like there's a hope of going back to telephone triage. I am waiting to hear from the public hospital - my interview was almost 2 weeks ago, so I'm hoping I'll hear something this week. I applied for a casual community nurse job as well, just to broaden my options, so maybe that might be good. Anything will be good at the moment!

Anyway, that is all I can think of - hope you are all well. I'll try and get on here a bit more often!! ;)

Nan

03-06-2009, 20:30

Hi girls!
Welcome to BH Mellie. Nice to meet you! :wave:
You think you guys are slack? I just checked and this is the first time I've logged on in 3 1/2 weeks! :eek: I think that's a record since I first joined BH over 4 yrs ago!! lol Yep, I'm addicted to FB so I've been coming on here less, but am still coming on. My Nov mums 05 group don't chat very often but we still chat.

Hey Nan, sorry to hear things are a little off kilter with your DH. Have you read The Five Love Languages, by Gary Chapman?

Can you believe she is STILL not walking consistantly!

Anyone thinking of or doing toilet training yet?
Hey hun! I have read that book. A LONG time ago though and I love what it says but I still struggle. The thing is that Shane is a 'quality time' person & because I spend so much time attending to the kids, he doesn't get enough of my time. I've told him he's getting as much as I can give, but to no avail unfortunately. I'm a 'words of affirmation' & 'gifts' person and feel very unappreciated if he doesn't say something nice to me every day!!! It helps to know that he loves me.....just sucks that I don't feel it.
We were doing much better until he dropped the bombshell a few days ago that he's content with our two children & doesn't want to TTC. This is after numerous conversations where I've mentioned #3 or talked about when we'd start TTC etc etc. WT??? MEN!! :banghead: I said to him "You're telling me this now! You didn't think to tell me 12 months ago?!" So I'm really upset at him. I just feel like I've not been given a positive end to my child baring years. I still want another baby and I don't think that'll ever change. We'll see what happens. Sorry for the rant!! Good to get it off my chest though!
With Xav's walking, I wouldn't worry coz she's still in the normal developmental range even if its the upper end. A friend of mine suggested taking Caleb to a specialist if I was really worried coz sometimes kids don't walk if their ankles are weak and they can wear boots to help them, but in the end I didn't take him coz he started walking! Just a thought.
With TT, Caleb has told me 3 times before he's done a poo, so the last time I got the potty out and put him on it but he just cried the whole time, so I put it away. I'll try again in a month or so, but Eden only learned to go properly at 3 so I'm in no hurry with him. Just testing the waters, so to speak. I might put the potty out for him to sit on whenever he wants to help him become comfortable sitting on it, but not for a while.

I have to have another test on day 2-5 (when I end up getting af) to see if the hormone is there, if not I guess I will need to go on some fertility drug??!
Hey Moops! Before you try that try some HRT. I use Progesterone Cream that I rub onto my forearm every day (well from day 7-28) as I don't ovulate regularly either. This worked for me.....also helped protect the baby from m/c coz Progesterone helps embryos implant properly.
Anyway, best be off to spend some 'quality time' with Shane! lol

Love to all!!!!! xxxxxx

melbryan

03-06-2009, 20:55

Hi Girls I have read what I can and try and do some personals so here goes,
Moops have yu thought of maybe a naturopath that got me regular again as I would go months without a period and she got me right.

TT- I know Ash will be similar to Kayne with TT. It will happen closer to 3 yrs for him as mase was night and day TT by 2 yrs 3 mths. Ashie doesn't have the understanding or language at all yet.

He is really a large kid about 15kgs and since having diabetes has put on weight cause he seems to be constantly eating. He sleeps in the day for about 2 hrs and and is in a big bed and sleeps until about 7-30 in the morning. He sometimes bursts out crying in the night but will go back on his own. He hates the dark and is scared of being told off by anyone other than me he just laughs and runs off. He is a real climber I found him on DH's trailer attached to his ute standing up. He makes me laugh he is a real clown at times and makes me laugh. He got his thumb stuck in a CD, he's walking around whinging with his thumb up in the air. He is just into everything imaginable he is so full on but I really adore him. He whinges because he cannot talk I think he is a bit behind in that dept but time will help and I will just wait until he is better. His diabetes is under contrl and I am looking into getting him an insulin pump which allows him to have 1 needle every 3 days instead of 12. It will help in his day to day eating and activities giving him and us more freedom.
To all the pregnant ladies and TTc's vers my thoughts are with you I know what you are all going through and also you NAN I have been through this with Dh but it is best not have any regrets in the future. Take care all I do keep up with all the photos on facebook and get to see all your beautiufl bubbas growing up hard to believe this year they'll all be two.

Moops

04-06-2009, 04:41

Hey girls,

Yay Moops - for joining the gym! it will be hard going at first but once you get into it, you'll feel so much better and have more energy! I miss being able to go more often.

I'm soooo sore!! I only went on the treadmill for half an hour and I'm paying for it big time today! I was a bit nervous about putting Luca in the creche, he didn't want to go at first but as soon as he saw some cars he was gone! When I came to pick him up he was sitting at a kids table playing with a laptop and just looked at me and continued playing!

Can you believe she is STILL not walking consistantly! She takes steps and will walk if you hold one hand, but other than that - she flies around on her knees! She's quick too!

I wouldn't worry S, like Nan said she is still within the time frame. It sounds like she could do it if she wanted to!

Anyone thinking of or doing toilet training yet?

Luca sometimes waves his hand in front of his face if he's fluffed or done a poo but not before. I've generally heard that the later you do it the easier it is, I'm not looking forward to it or carrying around a potty everywhere!

Do you know what you're having? C'mon you can tell us ;)

Blake is going through a "stage" - same sort of stage Aliyah went through at 18 months I think. He has started chucking tantys big time when he doesn't get his own way, and he's not sleeping well at night (although last night my prayers for sleep were answered because he slept through until 6 am!). I hope he does start sleeping properly again, otherwise we'll have to start CC (which I know works, but I'm not keen on having to do it!). He's getting pretty clingy with me, but I'm not sure if it's because he's overtired or it's an age thing. He's also at the point now where he doesn't like his stroller and wants to walk everywhere, so it takes ages to do anything now!!

Luca is chucking tantrums all the time now too! He just wants to do whatever he wants and I can't seem to discipline him. I tell him no, and he just looks at me and does it again! I've bought Luca a buggy board because he seems to want to get of his pram too, I need to get used to it though I keep on wacking my feet on it! Hope Blake starts sleeping better for you soon!

The thing is that Shane is a 'quality time' person & because I spend so much time attending to the kids, he doesn't get enough of my time. I've told him he's getting as much as I can give, but to no avail unfortunately. I'm a 'words of affirmation' & 'gifts' person and feel very unappreciated if he doesn't say something nice to me every day!!! It helps to know that he loves me.....just sucks that I don't feel it.

I know how you feel Nan, I feel the same way :hugs: I know DH loves me but call me high maintenance but I want to hear it and feel it! I know things change when you have kids but I don't think the romance or spark has to die as a result. Sometimes I feel like Dh and I are more friends than anything, I'm not ready for companionship yet, I still want passion!

We were doing much better until he dropped the bombshell a few days ago that he's content with our two children & doesn't want to TTC. This is after numerous conversations where I've mentioned #3 or talked about when we'd start TTC etc etc. WT??? MEN!! :banghead: I said to him "You're telling me this now! You didn't think to tell me 12 months ago?!" So I'm really upset at him. I just feel like I've not been given a positive end to my child baring years. I still want another baby and I don't think that'll ever change. We'll see what happens. Sorry for the rant!! Good to get it off my chest though!

Ahhhh that really p!sses me off!! :banghead: DH has said that in the past, it's like they just decide that and that is it and we have no say! It should definitely be a mutual decision after both of you have spoken about it. I would try and talk to him and air both your opinions before you kill him! :hugs:

Hey Moops! Before you try that try some HRT. I use Progesterone Cream that I rub onto my forearm every day (well from day 7-28) as I don't ovulate regularly either. This worked for me.....also helped protect the baby from m/c coz Progesterone helps embryos implant properly.

Thanks Nan I'll give it a go

Moops have yu thought of maybe a naturopath that got me regular again as I would go months without a period and she got me right.

Wow really? I thought you were super fertile/regular with all your kiddies! What did the naturopath do? This is making it VERY hard to follow the girl diet as I don't know when I ovulate. I got af yesterday on day 38 - wtf?! I'm getting a blood test tomorrow to check my hormone levels etc. I'm starting to stress out that it's going to take ages to get pg and there will be a huge gap between the kids.

He is really a large kid about 15kgs and since having diabetes has put on weight cause he seems to be constantly eating. He sleeps in the day for about 2 hrs and and is in a big bed and sleeps until about 7-30 in the morning. He sometimes bursts out crying in the night but will go back on his own. He hates the dark and is scared of being told off by anyone other than me he just laughs and runs off. He is a real climber I found him on DH's trailer attached to his ute standing up. He makes me laugh he is a real clown at times and makes me laugh. He got his thumb stuck in a CD, he's walking around whinging with his thumb up in the air. He is just into everything imaginable he is so full on but I really adore him. He whinges because he cannot talk I think he is a bit behind in that dept but time will help and I will just wait until he is better. His diabetes is under contrl and I am looking into getting him an insulin pump which allows him to have 1 needle every 3 days instead of 12. It will help in his day to day eating and activities giving him and us more freedom.

Ashie is sooo adorable Mel! What does his diabetes involve? I know you have to give him injections, does he cry a lot? It is so unfair for him.

Luca is a little rascal, he bangs on our flat screen tv with his cars, climbs up onto our dining table and runs around and puts his toes over the edge like he's going to jump off! He goes through all our drawers, pulls rubbish out of the bin and generally drives me nuts but I adore him too. I've started taking Luca to playgroups and he loves it, I'm hoping he's going to learn to share more because he just takes things from everyone if he wants it!

Anyway better go, this is the most traffic in here for ages!! Hope you are all well x

Nan

04-06-2009, 09:34

Moops - Shymmer's having another girl! She told us before. You must have forgotten!

Screaming kids....... bbl

Moops

04-06-2009, 16:34

Lol Nan I remembered that last night and just came on here to say don't worry about me I'm an idiot! :laughing:

Lozie

05-06-2009, 08:32

HELLOO!!! OMG this the most i've seen this thread alive in months i blame facebook too!!! LOL

Awe nan i think thats really unfair of ur Dh to lead you on thinking you both want to TTC and then he's says that ... hmm what a meanie, I hope he comes round for ya or you could be sneaky and secretly get utd! :p LOL. Something i would do if we were planning then Dh changed his mind but i know my dh wouldnt care so anyways :hugs: men can be silly!

Moops i have no advice on the TTC thing we have never had to try so i have no idea about anything sorry hun but still :goodvibes: and :fingerscrossed: you figure it all out soon! and hopefully a baby for you in 2010!

Balin is the same as you guys have described! tantrums, destroying the house yes he has done it all and at the moment we are having probs with him keeping his nappy on... so we have started TT but he doesnt seem very interested he just laughs when he sits on the toilet then i leave his nappy of for a little while and keep an eye on him so when he needs to go i can chuck him on the loo but he wont go on the toilet he waits til i go and get a new nappy and he takes off and does his business somewhere in the house! he's like a puppy LOL but i'll keep trying he'll get it one day! He's very good with understanding and can say a few words, i think he can say more than he lets on i have heard him playing with the boys talking to them clearly LOL but plays the baby when he sees me or Dh, right now i can hear him talking about his cars with Jacy LOL.

All the boys are excited about the new baby they seem to think it should be here already. LOL they are so sweet and Caleb thinks its a girl but jacy wants a boy but wants a girl as well they are so cute! Found my middie but still have to keep looking cause she is from down past tweed heads so it's an hourish drive to me up here in brissy so still hunting but not too worried unless she pulls out hoping that she doesnt!

Well i think thats enough from me need to get ready for work and kick Dh outta bed that man would sleep his life away if he could!

:hugs: for everyone :sunshine:

sandralee

05-06-2009, 20:00

WOW!!! So much action in here LOL!!! I really miss our regular little chats - I miss the venting, it was great therapy. Noah's gums looks so cut up at the moment he has partially got all molars through, but to get from a small point to 1/4 of a tooth through the gum has taken over a month - so red and so sore looking & drool runs downs my arms when I am holding him.... he has been a little a*hole if he doesn't get his way. So sick of thinking up new ways of getting him out of the bath or changing his nappy etc - and he has thrown such big tanties that he has kicked me in the stomach with both feet whilst on the change table - AND I CAN"T HAVE THAT BECAUSE..............I AM PREGNANGT!!!!!! Did a test yesterday and got a shock - it is so early though, only a faint line..it happened some time in the last few weeks and that's all I know. We aren't telling ANYONE so PLEASE DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ON FB - reason being, Noah kicked me in the tummy really hard on tues, I passed a tiny bit of 'port wine jelly' that night (not very big, and it didn't look like a normal clot thingy), then the following night I had 2x 'labour pains' - both of which lasted a couple of minutes. They seriously felt like contractions! No bleeding or anything, good sign, and I puked this arvo (LOL! Gross huh?) which at least means that HCG levels are increasing. I am an optimist, but it is still way too early to mention on FB if something has gone pearshaped 'in there.' In 9 wks time you can mention it though ok? :D Wan't sure if it was ever going to happen, cos we weren't getting around to doing much BD'ing!!!!! I have no clue when I ovulate and couldn't be bothered using my basal thermometer for a month or any kits yada yada/ I wanted to do the girl diet too, but I like my freedom too much.. so in the end, I thought I have a 50%chance of having one lol - let's just wing it and see what's meant to be. Moops all that ovulation stuff is so confusing and time consuming isn't it?! I read that if you wait til day 7 in your cycle, or straight after your period finishes, then BD every 2nd night (or 3rd night if that's too much) - they reckon 2 or 3 times a week for that last 3wks of your cycle. Steve and I started that way - well we had 3 shots at it anyway overall - 1st BD, then another one 48hrs later, then got slack and had a 4 day gap. It has been such a month for Noah's tempers (and my exhaustion/frustration etc) that I am quite surprised that it happened at all! I remember thinking last week about how much I was glad that I didn't go into overdrive with baby making, cos my coping skills have been worn thin woth ONE baby! So I guess the girl diet is no longer an option for me, even if I COULD be bothered haha. Now that I know I am pg, I already feel attached to it - but I am still a little concerned with the collection of stomach kicks that Noah has been giving me, so fingers crossed that all is well with this new little sproggy! Steve is so happy to be a dad again but he said he is holding in a lot of feelings until we get the all clear. He just hugged me so hard yesterday, and got a bit misty eyed it was really sweet. Will have to get a dating scan next I guess. I am kind of terrified (& that's an understatement!) about having 2 little ones, but also excited on the other hand. I think it will be a good age gap in our household & Noah can be out of his cot this year sometime.
Nan, ditto to what someone else said - a relationship is made up of TWO different people's needs and desires - I have spoken to many people who had lived to regret not following their heart with another baby. I sincerely hope that everything works out perfectly for you in that department. Shane is just scared that if you don't have much time for him now, that with another baby he would have even LESS time with you. So if you fulfill his needs in that department and set aside even a teeny bit of time for you as a couple, on a regular basis, he will come round I think. Also, refresh his memory that they aren't this demandng for long and will go through their milestones pretty quickly - before you know it they will be graduating highschool like Andy now is..and that the sooner the better if you have another one, so you can get all the pregnancy/sterilising/sleepless nights/teething etc over and done with. Eden and Caleb will also be a little older and will be able to help out with things. Ask yourself how much having another baby means to you, then 'make' yourself schedule some quality time with Shane to reconnect and also show him that you can still have fun together - cos that is the key to him being okay with another baby. That's what my intuition is telling me anyway.:hugs:
Mel, Noah isn't talking much either lol! He babbles heaps and comes out with random words, but sticks with just whinging if a)we don't take him to wherever he wants to go b)do what he wants us to do c) stop him doing something that he is enjoying d) change his nappy e)get him out of the bath or even e) try to put him in his carseat if he doesn't want to get into it..... he communicates his needs very well hehe! We understand him loud and clear!
Well I am going to chill out and watch something uplifting - I feel very fortunate to have such a great bunch of girls in my life, and really enjoy keeping in touch on FB too. We have made some cute little kiddies!! Welcome to anyone new..and be careful.... the pregnancy vibes are contageous somehow if you are subscribed to this thread lol!!
Lots of love and hugs XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
p.s. a reminder about not saying anything on FB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even those of you have baby brain lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Moops

07-06-2009, 06:21

Just a quick one...

OH MY GOD SANDS!!
BIG CONGRATS HUN!!! :hugs::hugs::yelclap::thumbsup::smiliedance:

I'm so shocked!! Wow you're so lucky that is happened so quickly! I've been having blood tests to find out what's going on with me, I also had a scan today and everything looked fine and I don't have PCOS (polycystic ovary syndrome) after all which is good news. My last blood test was to see if the messages from my brain were working to tell my body to ovulate (makes me sound a bit mental!) I find those results out on Thursday. If the results are bad then I will go on fertility drugs to stimulate ovulation, they told me that there is an increased chance of multiple pregnancies though! I think I'm going to forget about the girl diet, like you said it's too complicated and I just want another baby. I can imagine that is how you feel now, you don't really care what sex it is you're just happy to be pg.

So happy for you!!!!!! xxx

sandralee

07-06-2009, 12:18

Moops I believe that ANYTHING is possible, I really do - & a spiritual teacher once told me not to buy into to any medical 'dramas' and that it is mind over matter. My belief system is totally aligned with that, so when Steve told me that his dr said he had one in a million chance of having a baby (which he would kill me if he knew I said that on here!!! but I feel the need to cos if it helps others 'believe' and 'feel' that anything is possible, then it might just help someone) he was devastated and upset..and I wasn't. I just knew my family days were not over yet. The mind is a very powerful tool that will give you whatever it is that you think about - so if you buy into 'problems' you will experience them and so forth. The best thing you can do is focus on a new baby, talk to the angels, and then relax and let it all happen. Well that's my belief system anyway. I still would like to parent a little girl, but maybe it is my lesson in life to just let things be - after all, it is just the sex of a child etc. Who knows! I feel happy to say that if it's a girl, we will get to shop for fun girls clothes and I will have a daughter to do girly things with, and if it's a boy, Noah will have a little brother to play soccer with and hang out with at school. I am not wanting to get my hopes up with a girl anymore, but it would be nice. I just worry about the health more than anything, cos going by the due date calculator on here I am 4 wks and 1 day!!!! Cos they go by the 1st day of your last period. (I thought it went by ovulation date lol) I have been so stressed lately with Noah that I haven't had heaps of water, have been kicked in the stomach a lot with the last one resulting in 'contraction like pains', about 6 glasses of wine last sunday.............etc...... Had morning sickness on fri and sat but none today which makes me freak out that something is wrong. Guess I am a worry wart lol!
If you can put all this medical talk/diagnosis aside, and try BD'ing every 2nd day (feels all calculated and methodical at the time, but think of the bigger picture), and KNOW that you ARE going to have another baby, then it will all happen. The only catch is that you have to believe in it, cos if there is any doubt it won't happen. Our mind gives us what we believe in, good or bad! For e.g. my sister believes that it will be hard for her to fall pregnant, and guess what.. she has been off the pill for a few years and still isn't pregnant.
So to say that Steve was told he had one in a million chance, then now is going on to have 2 children, proves to me what I believe in. I never forget telling him that we were going to have a baby no matter what (but if we didnt. then that was okay too - I only said that to make him relax cos I just knew we would have one or two kids together) - so then he relaxed knowing that I was ok with it either way..and it happened!
I was close to changing my mind AGAIN last month, about having another one, then BOOM here I am. Still not wanting to get too excited in case something is wrong, but I am being as positive as I can possibly be.
Focus on a sibling for Luca, say some prayers (out loud or in your head) when you feel really relaxed and mellow as you are more likely to be in tune with the angels at that time..then let the universe do it's work at delivering. Light some candles and reconnect with Rick lol!
Sending you tons of baby vibes and lots of love XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
p.s. I don't think I will feel completely relaxed until we have had a scan or something..

AliyahBlake

07-06-2009, 15:19

I knew I had to keep watching this thread.........because we have our little secrets!!!! OMG Sands CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!

I wouldn't worry about the kicks Noah's been giving you, and the wines - little bub will stay there if it's meant to :) I'm so excited for you!!!

Sands is right Moops - the trick is to be positive about TTC. I remember after only a few months of trying to fall pregnant with Blake I became really down and negative when nothing happened. I was convinced I'd only have one child. It took a really good psychic reading (I was told I had a strong little soul around me and it wouldn't take long - I was pregnant within 3 weeks of the reading :eek: ) and some positive thinking to get myself back on track. The bding every 2 days in the middle of your cycle works because for 11 months Craig and I were very erratic with bding, but once we decided to stick to every 2 to 3 days, it worked almost immediately! It does become a little "clinical" (for want of a better word!) doing it that way, but it worked for us, and it's worked for quite a few people I know. You just have to relax and trust in your body, and you will fall pregnant when the time is right. I have to say that my periods have always been pretty irregular and I'm sure I only ovulated every couple of months when I was off the pill - it's so hard when your body isn't like clockwork!

Well, Blake's sleeping patterns are back to normal for now (touch wood!) so we have enjoyed uninterrupted sleep for about 5 nights in a row YAY!! I know it's the molars, and they'll probably go up and down for a few months yet.

We went to our mortgage broker yesterday to re-do our home loan now that our house is an investment property. Got it all sorted, and we also learnt that (providing I get a job) we can afford to buy a house here in Gympie in the next 12 months :smiliedance: We are thinking about buying a few acres and building, but will see what the property market does this year. Very exciting!!

Anyway, must go and think about preparing dinner. Hope everyone's well - hugs to you all :hugs:

sandralee

08-06-2009, 15:27

How ferral does your november bub go with tantrums - Noah is teething, fair enough, but it is nothing for him to have a half hour screaming thrashing violent meltdown - makes me worry that he has some neurological disorder.. I have never seen a toddler have these bad tantrums before. Noah looks like someone from a special episode of the supernanny! His tanties are so scarey when they happen, and go anywhere from 15mins to over 30mins! I know he is getting molars, I can see them all coming through a bit more each day - but this is getting beyond a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just curious to see what is normal and what isn't lol!!! Thank you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Moops

08-06-2009, 17:53

Thanks guys yeah I'm going to take your advice and just chill out and believe so hopefully will be ok.

Well we spent the early hours of the morning in A&E! When I gave Luca a bath last night I noticed he had a red, raised, blotchy rash all over him but he'd also had the runs all day so thought it was just a viral rash. He cried half an hour after we put him down at bedtime which he never does and then woke up again at midnight. When I went into settle him he was clawing at his face, in the dark I felt his face and felt he was hot and had big welts on his face so i turned on the lights and nearly died! I couldn't see his right eye at all, his ears were twice the size they usually are and his face was really red, tight and lumpy. I actually threw up in the toilet at the hospital, i was so scared something was really wrong with him!

Apparently it is just an allergic reaction, I can't really think what he had to eat yesterday that was different and he's had something similar to this a while ago so I think it's time to get some tests done. My poor bubba he looks like he's done ten rounds with Mike Tyson! He keeps on scratching, I hate not being able to help him more!!

AliyahBlake

09-06-2009, 10:25

Sands - Blake has just started chucking dreadful tantrums in the last month. It's almost like he turned 18 months and the "tantrum switch" went on! It seems to me his are alot to do with his molars also as once they settle down, so do his tantys. His worst one has lasted for an hour - I tried to put him down for his daytime nap at his usual time and he wouldn't have it - needless to say the tantrum wore him out so much he slept for 90 mins! I've just decided to let him sleep when and if he wants to as I don't want to go through that again! At the moment his teeth are ok and he's been in a better mood, but in saying that, today he's started to chew his fingers and he's in a stroppy mood so I think his teeth are beginning to niggle again :rolleyes:

Moops - Poor little Luca!! I saw the pics on FB and he looks so uncomfortable. I wonder what's causing it? I agree with you, get some tests done to see if you can get to the bottom of it. Does he seem in pain? I'm just wondering if it's some sort of arthritis or something other than the ? allergies. Anyway I hope he's ok :hugs:

quaver

09-06-2009, 18:40

It has been TOOOOOOO long! I just have been forgetting to come on here as it was so quiet for ages, and now i find all this interesting chitter chatter! so much info i dont know where to start! but i miss our little secrets!
Sands- a big congratulations!!!!!!:smiliedance:
everyone else, i will pop in tomorrow and read things a bit slower and catch up with some pms.

Things have been pretty crazy here. I went to the chn today and was pretty much told i should not be giving J bottles anymore. :hair: she made me doubt myself, i dont know what is the point of them when they see you for 5 seconds and think they can give good advice to you. Anyway, been struggling a bit (like some of you) with Js sleep at night. he just keeps waking. He keeps getting sick and teething, i just cant get him in a pattern any more. I am very run down and tired. His tantrums are getting more during the day and he gets annoyed and throws things. it is really driving me up the wall. He is saying a few more words but he is frustrating at the moment. I am not getting a heap of time with Dh and when i do i am tired and grumpy. sometimes it is hard to see the light. ah sorry just venting, have not done it on here for so long so it feels good. he has his cute moments..lucky he does otherwise i think i would have lost it before.

on the up side my cake business is going well. i am trying to find a good web designer but it is very exy. any ideas anyone? But orders are coming in and i am really enjoying it.

anyway chat soon lovlies

RoarsomeMum

09-06-2009, 18:55

OMG!:yelclap::smiliedance::goodvibes: Sands! Awesome News Hon!!!

Moops, Owwwwwwwwwww on Luca, hope sorted soon.

Em, Your cakes make me Drooooooool!

With you on the Tanties Sands, and actually thought the same about Supernanny! Roar chucks some Feral ones.

God, I have to have a loooooooooooooong read to catch up (you guys can sure rabbit on! :p)

Things here are pretty good ATM, recovering from Flu, settling into new place, got the old one sorted out finally which was a HUGE relief. No need to go Bankrupt wich is AWESOME! Roar's health going great guns. Not preggers but still trying!

TALK SOON!!!! xxxx to u all! (specially Lozie.)

Oh, and WHEN DID SKYHUMMER GET PREGGERS?!?!@ I can not believe I forgot!!!!!!!!:o

AliyahBlake

10-06-2009, 06:19

OH NO!!!! I think Blake's starting to give up his day sleeps!!!!:hair: For the last week or so I've had so much trouble trying to get Blake into his cot during the day. Well, yesterday the only sleep he had was 20 mins in my arms and every time I tried to put him in his cot he'd wake up grrrrr! He was obviously tired but refused to sleep. I even tried walking to school to pick Aliyah up in hope that Blake would fall asleep in the stroller, but no such luck. Bugger!

Nan

12-06-2009, 09:32

Just realized last time I posted I said I'd be back later and I never came back!! Oops! :o

Lol Nan I remembered that last night and just came on here to say don't worry about me I'm an idiot!
Are you sure you're NOT preggers! :laughing:

..............I AM PREGNANGT!!!!!!
Nan, ditto to what someone else said - a relationship is made up of TWO different people's needs and desires - I have spoken to many people who had lived to regret not following their heart with another baby. I sincerely hope that everything works out perfectly for you in that department. Shane is just scared that if you don't have much time for him now, that with another baby he would have even LESS time with you.
CONGRATULATIONS SANDS!!!! :smiliedance: I'm SO SO SO happy for you! :hugs: Wishing you all best for a healthy full term pregnancy lovely. :babydust2: You're spot on about Shane. You actually made me cry! Your intuition is powerful! I've been trying to talk it down over the past fortnight and make myself be ok with 2 and was doing ok for a while, but deep down I know I'm not being true to myself. I don't want to have any regrets when my kids are older. I worry about my sanity coz Eden is so strong willed, but God wouldn't have put the desire there if it wasn't to be....surely? So I'm taking your advice this time! THANK YOU my friend.

Moops I believe that ANYTHING is possible, I really do - & a spiritual teacher once told me not to buy into to any medical 'dramas' and that it is mind over matter.
AMEN to that!!!!!! I believe we are spiritual creatures in a physical body, not physical creatures with a spirit, if that makes sense. The physical is so limiting but the spiritual is endless and boundless. Its part of the reason I don't frequent the TTC threads. WAY to clinical imo. GO POSITIVE THINKING!!!!!!

Noah looks like someone from a special episode of the supernanny! His tanties are so scarey when they happen, and go anywhere from 15mins to over 30mins!
Oh hon. Is there anything you can do to get him to stop? I actually discipline my 2 if they have a tanty coz in my view its a loss of self control and I want them to learn to self regulate from a young age. Is it so bad that you can't step in? Man, it sounds horrid!

Hugs to quaver & AB on the sleep front! You poor things. My 2 are awesome sleepers. I'm so blessed. Hope it gets sorted soon.

Oh, and WHEN DID SKYHUMMER GET PREGGERS?!?!@ I can not believe I forgot!!!!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!!! :laughing: Are you serious? She's over half way!! Funny!

Anyway, I'm off to get dressed....yes, that's right. 10:00am and I'm just getting dressed! Enjoy your weekend ladies. xxxxxxxx

AliyahBlake

22-06-2009, 06:28

:laughing: So funny - we go nuts on here at times then there's no posts for days!

Well, just thought I'd pop in to say that I think I have Blake's sleeping dramas sorted (for the moment anyway!). He's back to sleeping very well at night, thanks to some Rescue Remedy Sleep drops I got at the chemist. They have worked an absolute treat! 4 drops on his tongue before bed at night and he sleeps from 7 pm til 6:30am!! I'm thinking of skipping the drops tonight to see what happens. He's back in his cot during the day now too - I persisted because he still needs a nap during the day and I wasn't going to continue with him only wanting to nap on my shoulder. So I have been putting him in his cot, and just making him lie down despite his protests, and patting his bum til he drops off to sleep. He still only sleeps about 45 mins, but it's better than nothing!

I took him to storytime at the library last week as I was feeling guilty for not taking him anywhere to play with kids his age. He's a little shy but it didn't take too long for him to start interacting, especially after the story when they brought the toys out!

Good news on the job front finally! I will be told an official start date at the public hospital sometime in the next couple of weeks. I dropped in a criminal record check form about 2 weeks ago at the reception desk, and somehow nursing admin never received it! So if I hadn't rung them last week, they'd still be waiting for it and that's why I hadn't heard anything from them. I ended up going in last Thursday and signing a new one at nursing admin, and I don't need a Hep B blood test as I already have proof I'm negative for that. So hopefully I'll start working again very shortly. Only thing is, school holidays start next week, so I bet they'll want me then!! Might have to figure out some vacation care for Aliyah if that happens.

We had Aliyah's birthday party yesterday. We were supposed to have it at the park, but it was raining on and off all day so we ended up moving it to our house :hair: Out of the 24 invited, we had 12 of her friends (plus a couple of the kids brothers and sisters - so maybe about 18 kids all up) - we played pass the parcel and then the kids just ate and drank and played etc while the parents chatted. It was quite good really, and there wasn't too much mess at the end. I did have a couple of wines last night though!

Anyway, I hope everyone is all good. :wave:

Moops

23-06-2009, 08:23

Hi y'all!

How have you all been? I miss you guys!! Nothing much has been going on apart from ttc, Dh and I have been having sex every second day and I think I am ovulating today so fingers crossed that I will have some news soon!! I don't think I could handle all this sex for another month! :laughing:

AB - Congrats on the job! Sounds like they gave you the run around though, hopefully they will be more organised when you start working there! Must be a huge relief though. Loved the pics of Aliyah's party, looks like she had a great time. Has she made friends quite easily? What about you?

We have an appointment at the Hospital in a few weeks to get Luca tested for allergies, I'm really hoping it's something obscure so it won't affect his life too much.

Something else happened a few months ago which I haven't spoken about but I need someone to talk about it with! DH's friends Husband is a bit weird, ok very weird. He's always late and secretive and suspicious but we've never been able to put our finger on the problem. He's borrowed money from us in the past (without his wife knowing) and we know they have financial probs and are always short of cash. He's told us he's a Teacher but I see him driving around during the day etc. Anyway whenever they come over he always spends ages in the toilet so this particular time I went outside as you can see into the bathroom through the blinds. I saw him leaning over the sink with al foil in his hands buring it with his lighter. I nearly died! I'm no Saint but I've never seen anyone do that before and I felt sick that he would do it in our bathroom when Luca is there! He came out of the bathroom and just continued the convo like nothing had happened. I took Dh aside and told him what I saw and we sort of cut the evening short as I couldn't bear to look at him. The next day DH went to see his wife and she admitted that he's doing heroin!:eek: She has really buried her head in the sand about it and I feel for her but she isn't doing anything to help him and I feel really betrayed that she let that go on in my house.....eughhhh! We've spoken to her and told her that he needs to sort himself out and see someone because now we know we can't have things staying the same but she seems to avoiding us and the issue again. It's so difficult as I'm friends with her but this is so out of my comfort zone! To make matters worse they are trying for a baby and I cannot remain supportive whilst I know what is going on!!

Anyway sorry for the rant! Hope all of you are well! xx

AliyahBlake

23-06-2009, 11:16

Well Blake's run of good night sleeps came to and end at 4 this morning! I don't know why but he was awake every half hour from 4am until I decided to get him up at 6am and bring him into our bed. I skipped the RR drops last night, but I think he'll be having them again tonight! He seems happy enough so I'll just get stuck into the coffee today to keep myself awake!

Moops - we were the same when we started doing that to conceive Blake (figured that once a week wasn't doing the job LOL!). It does get exhausting at time especially if you really don't feel like it, but it's easier if you know you're ovulating I guess. Good luck!! Oh and I would be so creeped out if that was my friend too - how disgusting. I just can't understand why people want to do that to themselves - it just destroys everything and everyone around them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not squeaky clean as I tried pot a few times when I was at uni but that was as far as it went - I never had anything more hardcore than that. I hated how it made me feel and I saw too many of my friends becoming totally dependent on it to get through the day. My ex even had plants growing out in the back room of his flat and was selling it!! I'm glad I had the self-esteem and self-control not to take it past the experimentation stage.

Nan

23-06-2009, 14:02

Howdy pardners!
I'm watching Toy Story with Eden while Caleb is sleeping. :D Its soooooo cold here today. Its raining too. I'd LOVE to go to bed with the electric blanket on and read but no........not possible. :no:

AB - Sounds like the sleeping drops are the way to go then! What's in them? Are they a herbal type thing?

Moops - OMG! That's awful. Each to their own I say but not when its in YOUR house! That is SO disrespectful. If he wants to do heroine its his business, but if he can't even stay away from it while at your house then he's got a real problem. How sad. :( I feel sorry for the child they're trying for. Poor kid.

Well, Caleb is doing really well. He's still a bit unco when feeding himself. I think he might be a lefty! He uses both hands but is more coordinated with the left for the moment. He is talking up a storm now. The other day he was whining (ABSOLUTELY can't stand it.......'mumma, mummy......mumma,mummy' .....over & over in the most annoying voice known to mankind!!) so I told him to stop and say 'mum please I have bikkie' and he said 'mum, I have bikkie......peez' in the cutest voice! :bee: He counts to 10 but usually misses 6 or 8 & knows blue and green. Doesn't know any shapes names yet as far as I know. He's a littlie - still 10.5kgs and 81cm tall. You wouldn't know he's only been walking a couple of months! He's climbing almost better than Eden!! :p
He sings parts of Twinkle, Twinkle & Happy Birthday and does the actions for heaps of songs. He's definitely becoming the tanty king, but its usually just throwing himself on the floor. He just lies there and cries when he can't have his way..........such a lie that they do this a 2!!!!
Anyway, I'd better go and spend some more time with Eden. I came to the realization today that she's so grown up and I have very little time left with her on our own. (I still want to kill her most days.....we clash something fierce, but I love her to bits!)

On the TTC front, still not trying. I tried to bring it up again a few days ago but didn't really get anywhere....just a snide comment like 'you have to have sex to have a baby'. Then when I asked a few nights ago he was 'too tired' lol Sounds like a woman!! :rolleyes: I told him I wasn't interested with that attitude. I won't bring a child into the world like that! Aaaaaaahhhh well. Will keep the faith!

Moops

23-06-2009, 16:13

Hi Nan! Have you and DH agreed to ttc then? I hope he comes around and becomes enthusiastic about it for you, you don't want to do it half heartedly like you say xxx

Far out!!! Counting to 10 and singing!! Is Caleb a genius or is Luca really really slow!?? I still can't get Luca to say cat, dog or car!! He isn't actually saying anything apart from "Gone" and "All gone" and "hiya" I repeat things to him all the time but he just doesn't want to say them! His friend who is the same age is attempting to say more words but no actual word (although his Mum says he can say it all! haha). He can also point to nearly every part of his body but Luca is clueless! I have taught him his nose and tummy and he'll do it if he's in the mood but it's like the next day he forgets it - I'm starting to get worried!!! Saying that though he knows exactly what I'm talking about, if I tell him to get his shoes, water, cars etc he'll go and get it.

Thanks for your replies re druggie I'm not sure what to do, I don't want to see him it's too awkward! I'm really angry at my friend too so maybe this is the end of the line for us. Can you believe they wanted to babysit Luca?!!

Nan

24-06-2009, 12:26

:eek: No way would I let them babysit!! It might be the end of the line. I guess you just have to give them the ground rules (no drugs in your house or at their house when you're there etc) and if he agrees and does it then it might work, but if he doesn't then it may be the end. :(

Shane hasn't agreed to TTC yet......this is the thing.....he's so cryptic and indirect!!! Its so confusing! Its why I got so mad last month, because from all accounts it sounded like he was a 'yes' when he was really thinking 'no'! :mad:

We had a lovely walk with our playgroup to the local park this morning. It was cold, so we rugged up a fair bit. The kids could hardly walk, they had so many layers! :laughing: It didn't rain though and we even got a few sunny patches, which was good. :thumbsup: It is still freezing here! BBBRRRRRRRRRRRR!

AliyahBlake

24-06-2009, 16:15

Nan - How frustrating with the TTC issue!! I'm so glad that Craig and I were on the same page with that from the time we started talking about kids - makes it much easier! And OMG Caleb sounds so advanced with his speech!! I think Aliyah was at a similar level at this age, but Blake is like Luca - a few little words here and there but definitely not counting or anything like that! Aliyah's left handed and she was the same with coordination too. Once I realised that the left was actually more dominant I just encouraged use with that hand as much as possible. Lefty's are usually pretty smart cookies!!
Oh and the Rescue Remedy is a Bach Flower remedy - it's homeopathic and completely safe for anyone to use. You can get it at chemists and health food stores. I'm planning on doing a Flower Essence Practitioner course later in the year. Rescue Remedy is terrific stuff - I used to take it before exams in Yr 12 and at uni to calm myself down!

Moops - no way would I trust that couple to babysit....I reckon trust would have gone out the window the minute you found out about the heroin! I agree with Nan - pity help the poor kid they are trying to conceive :no:

Blake slept a full night again last night after his Rescue Remedy - that stuff is a god send and I'm wondering why I didn't think of it earlier LOL!!

Nan

25-06-2009, 13:26

AB - Rescue Remedy sounds like a little miracle in a bottle!! :laughing: YAY! :yelclap: Glad it's working for you. I took 2 hours to fall asleep last night.........might get some for myself! I can't put my finger on it. I had a glass of pepsi at 7pm but no caffeine after that....oh, a few pieces of chocolate, but that's just crazy if it was that! Oh, and yay for your course. It sounds really interesting.

Oh and Moops, Caleb isn't a genius!!! He's probably on the upper end of the developmental scale but its such a broad range. Luca is normal.....don't worry! In 2 years time you won't be able to tell between them. It all evens out!

MyLittlePrincess

29-06-2009, 18:00

Hi,
i have never come across this chat thread and was wonderin if i could intrude on it as well! :)

I have a DD who is born near the end of Nov was suposed to be a dec one but she couldn't wait! and would love to hear about others childrens behaviour, (or is mine just naughty!)

Has anyone started potty training yet? i have since JAN and find it difficult now coming up to the colder months; cant wait till spring :)

Sleeping?? Any sugestions?? my DD doesnt have day naps anymore!!:devil6:have no rest!! lucky sleep though the night.

Teething? anyone has less then 8 teeth, DD has 5 fully though and 3 are coming out now!! HELP is she really that behide

Talking? DD doesn't seem to stop will repeat almost everything ya say but only as one or 2 words no sentances yet... (only 3-5 with the word NO in it!!):hair:

New siblings? Currently have no2 in 4 mths time and was wondering any1 who has had another how did the first child cope. i am really scared my DD will be very jelous of the new comer, as when i got my 1st ultrasound pics she was mad and was saying to me 'no more baby!' and would push the picture away

Would Love to hear about other childrens developments and bout siblings new arrivals..

Sorry to :ecomcity: on and on

thanks in advanced :flowerz:

sandralee

01-07-2009, 09:24

Moops I would FREAK at someone if they brought heroin into our home!!! (and I am a very open minded person!!!!!)
Noah is a bit slow in the talking dept too - he is random with the things he says. He will say 'one more' A LOT, he has said 'iggles' for wiggles ONCE, 'dare dare dare' for yeah yeah yeah, and shocked us all last week by saying clearly to Andy 'GO AWAY.' Guess he is lazy cos we always know what he wants, or he will make it clear to us without talking. He points to all body parts if we ask. Nothing special in the talking dept here lol!
I am so off sex it isn't funny - poor Steve, it has been weeks lol. I know why too - I have had an extra demanding child while he has been getting all his molars etc..so have had even less time to give to myself doing fun stuff. So when Steve approaches me for some lovin' I have to bite my tongue so I don't say "F*** OFF!" LOL! Feeling quite sleepy at time during the day lately too which I know is normal for the first trimester - for my other pregnancies I was hyper all the way through. It was nothing for me to go on baking and cleaning and gardening marathons with little sleep, I'd be up at 4am each day haha.
Welcome to our thread - we talk a lot less these days in here and more on FB. No you aren't alone with a moody november baby - I had a month of psycho Noah, then he went back to being sweet...and lately he is trying to boss me around all the time but I am not buying into it, much to his disgust. He will throw himself down on the floor and put up a hand cos he wants us to help him up - if we don't drop what we are doing he starts crying lol. Stuff like that is common. Or he will have enough of his dinner, pack up his plate (he is a clean freak, and cleans up his high chair) and hold it up for us to take away.. if we don't get there straight away he will start whinging. He thrashes around like a crocodile if he doesn't want his nappy changed.... the whole thing has a theme...it's HIS way, or there will be HELL TO PAY lol!
Gotta go,
workmen have finished, now time to learn how to use the new system.
Lots of love to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Moops

03-07-2009, 16:00

Hey everyone!!

Thanks for all your birthday messages on facebook! Well I'm officially 30 I guess, I went to bed crying my eyes out! I was really disappointed with DH's effort on my birthday, he treated it like every other day when I thought it should have been extra special but I should have known he wouldn't have gone all out. I know I sound like a miserable/ungrateful cow but I was so upset! I couldn't hold it in anymore so I told him how I felt last night so ended up in tears...oh well! Other than that I had a nice day!

Sands, Noah is mega advanced compared to Luca!! He still isn't saying a lot just Mumma, Dadda, Bubba, All gone, Hiya and I think the other day he tried to say ball and car. He just doesn't pay attention! His friend watches everything when we go to funky feet so he knows all the actions (so can point to all body parts) but Luca isn't interested he just wants to run around and have a good time! I took Luca to a soft play area yesterday and this big kid started picking on Luca, he was pulling his hair and pushing him over so Luca rugby tackled him to the ground! They were rolling around wrestling but Luca wouldn't let go hahaha. Everytime the kid came for another go Luca would push him away, and then his Mum told Luca off! :hair:

Sands you haven't had sex in 2 weeks??:eek: Lol that is nothing unusual in this house at all!! Glad to hear everything is going well for you, hope there isn't anymore puking though!

Well I think I am due for AF on Monday or Tuesday so I'm going to do a test around then. I couldn't help myself so I did one two days ago and it was negative but I think it was way too early to tell, well lets hope anyway! xxxx

AliyahBlake

04-07-2009, 06:48

Hi,
i have never come across this chat thread and was wonderin if i could intrude on it as well! :)
Has anyone started potty training yet?

Sleeping?? Any sugestions?? my DD doesnt have day naps anymore!!

Talking? DD doesn't seem to stop will repeat almost everything ya say but only as one or 2 words no sentances yet... (only 3-5 with the word NO in it!!)

Would Love to hear about other childrens developments and bout siblings new arrivals..

Welcome to the thread My Little Princess!!As Sands said, we don't get on here as much as we used to but you'll find that if you do post something there will be one or two replies.

Well, as far as development goes I'll try and offer some advice where I can.

I haven't even thought of starting potty training with Blake yet. I'm waiting until he's at least 2 and for warmer weather. My DD Aliyah (who is now 5) didn't train until she was about 2 1/2 and was day and night trained after about a month - she was just really ready! My advice is not to rush them or push them into training otherwise you'll just have problems. Wait until they are really ready to do it and it will be much easier.

Sleeping....well, Blake has been a dreadful sleeper from the word go so I know what you're dealing with. He sleeps really well at night (mostly!) but daytime naps are very erratic. Some days he has nothing, some days he has 30 mins in the car and won't sleep in his cot, and then he'll surprise me and have 90 mins in his cot! He has no day sleep routine - just falls asleep when he's tired basically! I've learned to work around it and go with the flow.

Speech - Blake's probably at the same stage as your DD, although he seems to be learning some new words lately. I read somewhere yesterday that they should be able to put 2 words together by about 2 yrs of age, so these kids have a few months to go yet - it sounds like they are all pretty much on schedule according to the experts! Blake's words include Mummy, Daddy, Ally (his sister), book, tiger/Tigger, bubble, star, baby, car, nana (banana), apple, bath, peeze (please), ankoo (thankyou), bye, night....I think there''s more but can't remember them now.

Siblings - well, my DD was 3 1/2 when Blake was born so the age difference helped alot. She was excellent about the pregnancy and baby from the start (although she wanted a sister!!). I can't really offer much advice to you because I had it pretty easy in that regard. Maybe just try and involve DD as much as you can in the pregnancy and the baby when it comes. Aliyah helped us set up Blake's nursery and wash his new clothes. When he came along she helped alot with nappy changes and bathing. I let her spend as much time (supervised) as possible with him. Now they are great friends (they fight also but not constantly!).

I hope that helps - good luck with the new baby and, once again, welcome!!

Thanks for all your birthday messages on facebook! Well I'm officially 30 I guess, I went to bed crying my eyes out! I was really disappointed with DH's effort on my birthday, he treated it like every other day when I thought it should have been extra special but I should have known he wouldn't have gone all out.

Sands, Noah is mega advanced compared to Luca!! He still isn't saying a lot just Mumma, Dadda, Bubba, All gone, Hiya and I think the other day he tried to say ball and car. He just doesn't pay attention!
Sands you haven't had sex in 2 weeks?? Lol that is nothing unusual in this house at all!!

Oh poor Moopsy!!!! :hugs: Sometimes men just don't get it do they? I'm glad he's doing something nice for you and taking you out (saw that on FB!!) - so he should LOL! Maybe you might be preggers - a bit emotional at the moment??? You never know!!! :fingerscrossed:

Blake's a bit of a non-attention payer too!!! I think it is their age though as Aliyah was the same until she was about 3 then she started sitting through a whole DVD and stuff like that, so there's hope!!

Yeah, Sands.....no sex for 2 weeks??? Normal here too :laughing:

Well - a busy weekend for me. I have mountains of paperwork to fill in for the new job (starting Thursday!!!) and Blake's daycare (starting Wednesday!!). Craig's working most of the weekend so lord knows when I'll have time to do it!

shymmer

04-07-2009, 09:41

O. M. G.
I just wrote the most massive and awesome (if I may say so) post . . . and the freaking thing timed out? And it is LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You little . . ....... .. . .

I will be back later. :wave:

shymmer

04-07-2009, 11:08

Okay. I have gotten smart and will write my post in word and cut/paste it into BH.

Ahem – you are so funny! I’m 29wks. Hahaha. I hope you get a BFP soon. Though – imagine how your memory will be then?? Mine has never really recovered from being preg with DD. I have been in a perpetual state of ditzyness for years now. I can’t remember jack.

AB – good to hear about your new job! That’s exciting. I’m sure you will enjoy being brain active again! And exciting that you may be able to buy another house next year! What fun to go shopping for that!

Moops – what wonderful positive advice our lovely friends have given you! I hope you get a BFP soon too! And holy cow! . . . heroine??? Wow. I would be cutting ties myself. I know that is unsupportive, but I would have been incredibly furious and offended if someone brought that into my home. In fact I think I would have confronted them then and there and said – OUT. I don’t’ like confrontation at all, but it doesn’t help the user to be ‘polite’ about it. Though I would have probably been in shock like you and not sure what to do. I certainly would not continue the friendship with him. Imagine if he continues using for years and your kids associate with him and become aware of it???? Not on.
And Moops . .I’m having another girl.

Sands – dahling, I’m sure you will handle two little ones with aplomb! Though you may go grey . . . . and the ‘you look like a teenager’ comments may dry up. . . . . and people may look askance at the commotion you make as you work your way through the shopping mall . . . .and you may even go into hibernation. BUT, it will be wonderful!
For me, I am already going grey. The ‘you look young’ compliments disappeared a couple years ago. I’m sure I look like a ‘demon mother’ when I forge my way back to the car with a screaming child in the pram, and after said incident I have been known to hibernate . . . . .and that’s just with one child.
Hee hee, we will be fine – and I know you will retain your ‘yummy mummyness’ throughout!

MLP – Hello!!! Welcome to the group! To answer some of your questions . . . . Toilet training – I thought DD might have been ready about a month ago because she told me when she did a poo, but I put her on the potty and she freaked out. So . um. . . I’ll wait another year I reckon!
Talking – My DD is much like Luca and others. Chatter chatter chatter, but no real words. She can say a few but uses them sparingly. Basically she just points and grunts – which I actually comprehend most of the time – which no doubt perpetuates the cave-girl tactics. But she does understand lots, so no biggie I think.
Sleeping – oh . . . my DD is a dream sleeper. Isn’t she ladies? Prepare to be jealous . . . . . . NOT. LOL. My little night owl likes to regularly switch her days and nights and we will go a week or more being up all night and literally asleep all daylight hours! Much like old school vampires. Puts a real cramp on my retail therapy, let me tell you. But it is in fact not a bad thing! She used to not sleep in big block AT ALL. So I will take 8-12 hours straight sleep whenever she gives it to me and be happy!
Siblings – I am in the same boat as you. Expecting bub#2 in about 10weeks. My DD loves other kids so I am really really hoping she can put up with this new crying, demanding, dud toy until baby is old enough to play with her and be of value. Lol. I guess we just have to ensure we give lots of attention whenever we can so they don’t feel left out or too jealous. They are so used to having us all to themselves. I think I will just have to let others help with baby more so I can still make DD feel special. I did read somewhere that the first child tends to develop a much closer relationship with daddy when the next baby comes along, as he takes over their care much more.

Nan – I hope you get things agreed on regarding TTC. I know what it’s like to have a DH be reluctant on something you really want with all your heart and it’s extremely upsetting. Sands gave great advice. If you can address his problem, then it will all work out.
The big prob I had with my Dh was he didn’t even know really why he didn’t want what I wanted (or wouldn’t say), and I was against a brick wall with him. There was no way I could work him through it. (I wanted to adopt a child and he agreed to it initially and I got VERY emotionally involved in the process just for him to say NO after 3yrs of me pouring my heart into it.) So I can absolutely relate to the yes/no yoyo they can put you through.

So as for me . . . . .I have a newsflash! . . .. DD is regularly walking now!!! It’s so cute to see her toddle off , slightly unsteady still, and be so proud of herself when she reaches her destination.
Well, I have done nothing for this next baby’s arrival. I keep thinking I have ages to go yet, but um . . . 10 weeks or less is the reality. I need some drawers because bub’s room has no built in. And no point me washing baby clothes with nowhere to put them. And I need to buy a ring-sling to carry bub in so DD can still have the pram when she needs it. I think that’s all I have to do.
Oh – what’s your take on moving 2yr olds to a booster seat? I bought a booster for DD, but it doesn’t have the built in 5pt harness. It still connects to the back dash anchor point and will use the adult seat belt around the child with an H attatchment for over the shoulders. I just feel that DD is too small to move to that yet and she still needs the more secure 5pt harness. (Even though weight and height wise she will be ‘big’ enough for the booster) I think I will just feel better if I get her a convertible car seat/booster, that has the inbuilt harness for now, and can be removed with she is too big for it. Dontcha think??

Ok, we are going to Crazy Critters for lunch so DD can have a play. I hope its not too packed.

Mmmmwwwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh lovelies!!!!

sandralee

04-07-2009, 16:11

um guys....it has been about 6 wks or so in the lovin' department LOL! I can get turned off in about 2 seconds flat, Steve might even annoy me by the way he says something/or if he talks to me with food in his mouth - or it may be something different entirely lol! I have a libido, but the window of opportunity is so small! My dad STILL hasn't gone home, although he has spent most of the last few months at my sisters, with only limited visits down here. Now my sister sent him packing a couple of weeks (maybe a few weeks, I can't remember) and has made it clear that she wants no visitors for quite some time. Now I am stuck with the job of asking him to go home - WITH PREGNANCY HORMONES!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is making me so angry that I am even IN this position, he is as fragile as an egg and I am sick of worrying about offending him - any normal person would check in and ask if it is okay to stay, and let you know for how long. Freakin HELL!!!! I am slowly reaching pressure cooker point, where I want our lives back to ourselves! I am going to have to say something tomorrow and risk offending him, but to be honest, even if I suggest going home he would still feel all freaky. But it is down to his feelings or mine, and I am all out of patience. Would have been a different story if he checked in with me and asked if his staying here was ok. I am so angry that I am put into this position. He has mostly been here since Noah was born - which is a long F*****************ING time if you ask me! I feel like I can't speak freely with Steve either, cos he seems to listen to everything that goes on and make comments. I know he doesn't have much of a life with my mum at home (she has been seeing someone else for the past 10 yrs lol) but he needs to stop living THROUGH us and create a happier life for himself. Meh. Sorry needed to vent. Dinner ion oven and I need to rescue it. Back a bit later. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

shymmer

04-07-2009, 22:12

Oh Sands . . . I thought you had off-loaded your dad a while ago, but he just went to your sisters for a while??
Ok, I think it's crunch time. So your parents are not 'together' anymore, but they still share a house/still married? And your dad doesn't really like being there?
Whatever the situation is that is making him reluctant to go 'home' has to change!! And if that means a bit of tough love for both of them, then that's what they need. You dad reminds me of my mum. Fragile, as you said, and unable to make major decisions regarding their own life.
In my mums case, she was unable to force my dad into giving her, her half of the house value after they divorced. He just refused to sell the house, refused to refinance. I had to make it happen for her. I spoke to all my siblings (all of whom are older than me mind you and never helped my mum in this situation for 10yrs) and I told them all to tell my dad he MUST sell and give mum her half. It was D-day. I would not back down on this. And . . . . it happened. :yelclap:I then had to administer a bit of tough love on my mum in forcing her to buy her own place with the money (and a bit of $$ help from Dh and my bro). She was also unable to make a decision on that, so I basically made it for her. There were tears and I felt terrible - but I knew it was for her own benefit and mine aswell. She LOVES her little place now!
So darling, . . . the moral of my story is you must take action on the underlying problem, if your dad is unable to do it himself. I know it shouldn't be your job, and bad timing and all that. But it will just happen again and again if it isn't resolved. He needs a home he is happy to be at. One where your mum isn't, by the sounds of things. Instead of telling your dad he has to go, can you instead ask him how you can help him find a home that works for him? If he needs to move out from your mum, well, how can you help bring that about? I know it's probably a conversation you don't want to have with him. Idealy it would be great if he could get the gumption to sort himself out. But sometimes they just can't. And they become more and more reliant on you for their happiness and spend all their time avoiding their own life problems. Out of sight, out of mind.
I'd go straight to the problem and open it up. And then get on your mums case for allowing this situation to continue indefinately. If he hasn't been in 'their' home for near two years now - the marriage is over. Time to settle it up and let your dad move on with his life. They just might need a bit of a heavy nudge to see that the current situation is not working.

Anyway. I've blabbed on and on. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this. I know how draining it is. I hope it all gets worked out. :hugs:

Moops

05-07-2009, 01:18

Hi guys just had to say I just got a :bfp:!!!!! I'm so excited!!! The line was faint but it was definitely there, fingers crossed it sticks!! DH is out tonight so I'm bouncing off the walls not knowing what to do with myself!!

Please make sure nothing gets on FB!!!!

sandralee

05-07-2009, 06:14

OH MY GOODNESS MOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew it would happen soon for you!! GUess what! And this definitely CANNOT go on facebook, cos it isn't about me - my sister found out she is pregnant on friday.....and by the sounds of things she will be due within a week or two of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody knows her news except for her fiance, so it has to be hush hush. She is freaking out cos she has been taking vit A tablets. How cool is that though, my parents had only one grandchild for 16yrs, then Noah was born in '07, my brother is going to be a dad in october, and then my sister and I in feb lol!
Shymmer you poor thing - I have been burdened by my parents for ten yrs as well - it used to be a LOT worse, as I would have them BOTH ringing me all day with their marriage probs..and my dad din't know that mum had started seeing someone else back then...my parents seem to have no boundaries and just expect that it is okay to stay with us anytime without asking & without telling us how long it's for. Months ago I asked my sister to help but she has reached a critical point of 'NO RETURN' like me! No matter how I start 'the chat' with dad today he will more than likely take offence which makes me SO ANGRY cos I have done nothing but 'the right thing' and given him in-house support for over a year. (2yrs in november!)He is a stubborn taurus too, so he has started hiding from me and keeping his distance whenever possible - cos I think he is picking up on my annoyed vibes. He is such a weak man, yet can be so loving and helpful - I definitely could never marry anyone like my dad LOL! My mum rings every day to check on his whereabouts which is annoying too - she has enjoyed having dad pay all the bills for her, yet having the house to herself (while telling people SHE has been left with the bills etc) Man, my family used to seem so 'normal' and now I look at my parents and feel so tired of PARENTING THEM FOR SO LONG! Thanks for the advice Shymmer, it sucks to be in this position!!!!!
The whole situation seems to be under my skin, so I don't have the patience to wait it out until he finds somewhere (cos he is not in a hurry to make ANY changes) - so I will say he needs to head off this week, then I will help him figure out whatever he needs to do from here. I am a bit tired of feeling stressed out, and it is amazing how someone who feels doom and gloom spreads it to everyone around them.
Thanks again and CONGRATS again Moops! Are you staying in the UK? Or will you have a baby with a swiss passport? Or will it be an aussie? LOL! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

AliyahBlake

05-07-2009, 08:55

ARRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!! :smiliedance::goodvibes::yelclap::thumbsup: Congratulations Moops!! I knew it would happen soon - especially when you were sensitive and emotional on your birthday. Don't worry, the secret stays here until your official announcement.
:hugs: Sands - I thought your Dad had moved on too, so didn't realise he was back at your place. I agree with Shymmer's advice - just be honest and get it all out in the open, even though it'll be difficult. Good luck and remember not to stress too much.
Blake's not the best today - he really seems to be feeling these back bottom molars. I've dosed him up with panadol and teething gel to try and pep him up.

shymmer

05-07-2009, 13:16

Oh Moops! YAY YAY YAY!!!!!! That is such wonderful news! Sending you lots of stickyvibes for your little beany!
You know, after all that wonderful advice you recieved, I sent a similar peacful and positive vibe to a friend in America who is TTC. I hope it works for her too!!!

Mandy - I'm so glad Kaylee is doing well! How wonderful! And fie on your parents not helping at all. It's so annoying when they just come to make the appearance of a doting g'parent, and it's just to suit their own needs, not to 'give' anything. My dad is the same. :rolleyes:

Sheeeesh . . parents! At least we all know what not to do when our kids are adults!

AB - is Blake getting his 2yr molars?? I hope they cut through quickly - but not likely huh? Teeth take so darm long to come through!

So our little drama for the weekend was we were supposed to have handover for a rental property of ours. Long story, tenant is so unreliable. Handover was supposed to be Sat morning, so we didn't go to my mums place to renovate, intending to work on the rental for the weekend - then the tenant texts that she cant be out until Sunday 5pm . .grrr . . . and now she needs until next Friday! Completely wasted our weekend she did! So anoyed with her. And honestly she can't afford to be there another week. She has trouble paying what she owes already. Grrrrrrr.
Okay. That's my gripe.
Have a great week ladies!!!!

Moops

05-07-2009, 17:17

Thanks guys! You are the best, I'm so glad I have you all to share this with! I'm so excited!!! It is morning here now so I just did another test and the line was stronger so I feel good this morning, although a bit sick. Yesterday I was making cheesecake and I felt so nauseous I thought I was going to be sick, that is what prompted me to do the test. Doesn't bode well for me if I'm already feeling sick!! :no:

AB - Yeah no wonder I was such a blubbering mess on my Birthday!!! We went out to dinner on Friday night and I felt so bad, I just kept on thinking why I had said all those terrible things?! Then when DH gave me a Tiffany necklace I felt even worse, like I had bullied him into it! Oh well, at least I have an excuse! As for teeth, Luca has been dribbling and sticking his hands in his mouth plus waking randomly at night so I think his are too far away either.

S - Thank you hun! You are so right about the great advice, Sands in particular told me to be positive and relax and have faith and that is exactly what I did. Instead of thinking it won't happen because it was the first month of properly trying I thought "There is every chance it will happen" and to be honest I knew it would happen! :thumbsup: Hope it works for your friend as well!

Mandy - Congrats again on little Kaylee, I had no idea you were dealing with that in the last few weeks! So happy that she is healthy and at home, you guys must be over the moon! Don't know how you're coping with 4 kids though!! :eek:

Not sure if Melbryan comes on here anymore but I used the girl diet to time bd before ovulation etc so we'll see if it is a girl! To be honest DH and I don't care anymore! DH was so hellbent on having a girl but last night he admitted he's so chuffed that I'm pg that he doesn't mind what it is awwwww.

Sands - I was also under the impression that your Dad had gone home! I can't imagine having someone there for so long, even (or especially!) if they are family! If I had known I would have had a chat to him when we met at garden City! Lol! I've seen on FB that you've had the chat, hope it wasn't too awkward and uncomfortable for you hun because like you said you've done NOTHING wrong. Believe me I know all about being the parent of your parents, I thought I was the only one! I've had to cut ties with my Dad because he stresses me out so much, he's been doing it since I was 10 years old so I've said enough is enough I have my own family to worry about!!

I'm so pleased that we'll be going through our pg together again!!

Has anyone heard from Em lately??

xxxx

AliyahBlake

06-07-2009, 06:39

Hey girls - ooh it's been a hive of activity in here again lately LOL!!!

Moops - well, sounds like a definite positive! I hope you have a wonderful pregnancy and that your morning sickness isn't too bad.

Mandy - (sorry, having trouble getting used to your new username LOL!) - I'm so glad to hear Kaylee's arrival, although stressful because of her health and your grandfather's passing, went better than expected and she's now thriving.

Shymmer - yeah Blake's 2 yo molars are trying their darndest to come through, and he's really not enjoying it! There's really only one that I can feel prominently so far, and if these are like all his other teeth, they are going to take their time. He's actually been not well with it over the weekend - very hot (but no temp), red cheeks, off his food, lethargic, and quite grizzly. I thought he might be coming down with something but there really seems to be no other symptoms. Aliyah's 2 yo molars took forever to come through too so I know what we're in for!

Well, I have some exciting news that I'm not even allowed to tell Craig, so I thought I'd say it on here LOL! My SIL from London rang me last night out of the blue, and wanted some health advice. Her MIL has been staying with them for a while to recover from a recent operation. She has developed what the GP thinks is shingles, and my SIL thinks she hasn't has chickenpox before, so was worried about catching something off her MIL. The reason she was concerned is that she and her DH are TTC and she thinks she could be in early stages of pregnancy now (but won't test until next week)!!!! :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance: I am the only person who knows about them TTC but she said she will tell all close family once she knows for sure next week!! I'm soooooo excited, but it was really hard not to tell Craig last night. If she is then I think there will be a March baby, so that will make about the 5th birthday in March in our combined families!! :goodvibes:

quaver

06-07-2009, 19:44

I had no idea how chatty you bunch have been on here latley!!! I just have not been on here for ages sorry. I did not even think of it until i saw your birthday message moops- and thought hang on i think i need to jump onto bh!!
and i am glad i did

CONGRATULATIONS MOOPS!!!!!:smiliedance:wishing you all the best and your little jelly bean! Sorry you are feeling sick already though. erk, that bit sux. hopefully it will not hang around. I will be interested to see whether your girl diet has worked! I think it was so funny that you were so emotional on your birthday! I remember when i was first preggers with J i cried and cried at my cousins wedding, then wanted to tear everybodies head off at the reception! it only twigged a week later!

also moops on that drugs thing:eek: make sure you stand your ground. A mum in my mothers group has just had a friend that found that her husband owed a hundred grand because he had been hiding a drug habbit. i hope your friend can face up to it soon as he needs her help.

Nan- howdy- i love toy story!! what amazing language! so clever and it must be so cute. i have a little climbing monkey too! :hugs:ttc give the idea some time.xx

MLP- welcome- i was a late comer too. are you on fb? and re your questings-
Potty training- no have not started. he has shown not one bit of interest. I was told that if you try to early when they are not ready it can lead to bed wetting. so i am going to not worry about it until he shows signs or is 2 1/2.
sleeping- i am having a minor nightmare there at the moment. no sleep during the day here either. he has gone from 2 hours during the day to blank refusal to go down:hair:
talking- J has been a bit slow with this, but suddenly he is starting to say a new word all the time. he has about 14 now.
siblings- j is my first. but we will start ttc at the end of the year some time (yikes it keeps getting closer!)

shymmer! :laughing:you make me laugh. 29 weeks already!! i am sure you will get organised for the buba soon. you must be getting excited now. and re the booster- are you wanting to move dd so that the new bub gets the seat? i would wait if it were me. why dont you hire a capsule at least for a few months? i think the longer they can stay it them the better.

luvmyboyz- i had no idea what you have been going through:hugs: sounds like you have been really blessed with your miricle girl. how the hec have you don it all. i think you are truley amazing! hope thing settle down now for you and your 4!

quaver

06-07-2009, 19:55

ah i had to post that just in case i lost it!

Now update from me....

J has been a bit of a handful latley. ( arent they all!) He went through 2 weeks of beening really sick. ear infection and chest infection. and once again we were in hospital giving him oxygen for his breathing. so that has all settled and he is well again. but he will not go back in the cot. he was in our room a fair bit when he was sick, because of his breathing etc.
now we have tried cc again during the day and at night but it as been crazy. i almost lost it. he is just crazy scared in there. i was so upset. but determined. we went through the cry, comfort thing. i tried to rock him too and put him back in, but nope this went on for 6 hours and he was still awake. so he is now on a mattress on the floor in his room. i settle him lying next to him and sneak out. it is not ideal but i dont know what else to do. so until i do- or any other ideas?? i will keep going. ahh!

but his language is finally coming along. i have been working hard with him reading, puzzles, lots of chats etc. I have been doing signing with him too and this is really helping him not to be so frustrated as well as his language. not as many tantrums too. things like, hungry, please, ta, wait, stop, drink and time to go soon. now he is starting to say the word with the sign. yay!

so we are off to playschool concert tomorrow, i am looking forward to it. sorry if i left anyone out- there was sooo much to catch up on!:flowerz:

shymmer

07-07-2009, 12:12

Hey Quaver, if J is doing ok on the matterss on floor, I dont' see a problem with it. A lot of bub's get moved from cot to bed as they approach 2yrs old. Some bubs on here have been in toddler beds for a while now. As soon as they are able to climb out of the cot you need to move them to a bed anyway. And if he sleeps through and doesn't get up and wander out too much overnight, then I say it's working! As he gets better at staying on the mattress you can put it back onto the bed with a safety rail.

Re: Booster seat issue - Thanks for the advice. I've decided to buy a Maxi-rider (or the like) for DD. So it will still have the in-built harness like a car seat, but when they are too big for that, you can take the harness out and it's a normal booster. I'd like her in the 5pt harness for as long as possble - another year at least, so I think thats my answer.

Okay, I should probably take DD out for a romp somewhere - we didn't get out of bed until 11.45am today! She's going to bed late and not sleeping teriffically, so sleeps in.
I'm feeling lazy, but staying cooped up inside all afternoon is going to make it a long day/night.
I've discovered the joy of (paid entry) playcentres lately! It's just with the school holidays they are a bit busy. But wow, they are great when no one is there! DD has free run and I can climb in and play with her! Hehehehe, we have so much fun!

AliyahBlake

07-07-2009, 15:06

Quaver - I was going to say a similar thing to what Shymmer said about the cot situation. J's obviously decided he doesn't want the cot anymore so I would just go with the flow and maybe try and gently steer him in the direction of a big boy bed! I think we are close to taking the cot rails down and turning Blake's cot into a toddler bed as he's getting a bit big.

Booster seat issue - well I think Blake will be in Aliyah's Maxi Rider seat before long due to his size. Aliyah already has a booster seat without the harness (just uses the seatbelt) which will do her until she's 7.

My little Blakey goes to daycare for the first time tomorrow. I'm a little nervous about how he'll react, as for almost 20 months I've cared for him 24/7 and he's not been left with anyone he doesn't know before. It's definitely time though, as he needs to get some independence and confidence away from me, and I need some of my independence back too (which includes going back to work outside of the home!). He's still teething and in a feral mood so I hope he doesn't give the carers too much trouble! It'll be interesting to see if he'll sleep for them :D

I've been at the end of my tether with both the kids today because of their grizzling, whinging and fighting - drives me mental!! I'll still have Aliyah tomorrow as she's on school hols til next week, so I won't be completely alone, but I'm planning on whizzing through some housework tomorrow in record time without a toddler tagging along!! Then on Thursday it's my first day of orientation for work, which I'm surprisingly excited about!

quaver

07-07-2009, 15:18

hey, thanks re the advice on the cot situation. it is not so much the fact that he is on the mattress, it is just that he can not settle without me there. lying on the bed waiting for him to be in a deep enough sleep for me to escape is not the best situation. i am thinking this will not be a good habit if we are thinking about number 2. the lack of day sleeps and him not being able to settle himself without me throughout the night is really frustrating.
anywhoo
good luck with tomorrow ab- I am sure he will be fine in daycare- it will be harder on you!
shymmer- i have just found an indoor playcentre too-:thumbsup:

playschool was great! J face was priceless!

Moops

08-07-2009, 04:04

Moops - well, sounds like a definite positive! I hope you have a wonderful pregnancy and that your morning sickness isn't too bad.

Thanks AB!!

Well, I have some exciting news that I'm not even allowed to tell Craig, so I thought I'd say it on here LOL! My SIL from London rang me last night out of the blue, and wanted some health advice. Her MIL has been staying with them for a while to recover from a recent operation. She has developed what the GP thinks is shingles, and my SIL thinks she hasn't has chickenpox before, so was worried about catching something off her MIL. The reason she was concerned is that she and her DH are TTC and she thinks she could be in early stages of pregnancy now (but won't test until next week)!!!! :smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance: I am the only person who knows about them TTC but she said she will tell all close family once she knows for sure next week!! I'm soooooo excited, but it was really hard not to tell Craig last night. If she is then I think there will be a March baby, so that will make about the 5th birthday in March in our combined families!!

How exciting! I hope she gets a bfp!! How annoying that you can't tell Craig!

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CONGRATULATIONS MOOPS!!!!!:smiliedance:wishing you all the best and your little jelly bean! Sorry you are feeling sick already though. erk, that bit sux. hopefully it will not hang around. I will be interested to see whether your girl diet has worked! I think it was so funny that you were so emotional on your birthday! I remember when i was first preggers with J i cried and cried at my cousins wedding, then wanted to tear everybodies head off at the reception! it only twigged a week later!

Thanks hun!! I know that is so funny, Poor DH I was a nightmare!!

also moops on that drugs thing:eek: make sure you stand your ground. A mum in my mothers group has just had a friend that found that her husband owed a hundred grand because he had been hiding a drug habbit. i hope your friend can face up to it soon as he needs her help.

To be honest I haven't heard anything from them and I think that is best, they have broken our trust in a huge way and whilst we will be here if they need support or help I think our friendship is over.

now we have tried cc again during the day and at night but it as been crazy. i almost lost it. he is just crazy scared in there. i was so upset. but determined. we went through the cry, comfort thing. i tried to rock him too and put him back in, but nope this went on for 6 hours and he was still awake. so he is now on a mattress on the floor in his room. i settle him lying next to him and sneak out. it is not ideal but i dont know what else to do. so until i do- or any other ideas?? i will keep going. ahh!

Sorry to hear you have been having a rough time babe. I agree that I don't think the cot is the issue, Luca is going through separation anxiety in a HUGE way! I have just started going to the gym and putting him in the creche, he was fine for the first 3 times then he clicked to what was happening and now he claws at me and screams it is awful. This might sound stupid, but does he have a night light? Is it very dark in his room? I think it is just a phase and hopefully it will go soon. I actually remember Luca doing that a few months ago, he would be fast asleep but as soon as I put him in his cot he would scream his head off. I didn't last that long!

but his language is finally coming along. i have been working hard with him reading, puzzles, lots of chats etc. I have been doing signing with him too and this is really helping him not to be so frustrated as well as his language. not as many tantrums too. things like, hungry, please, ta, wait, stop, drink and time to go soon. now he is starting to say the word with the sign. yay!

Wow that is really great! I'm starting to think Luca has a learning disability! He gets cranky when I try and teach him anything!!

Okay, I should probably take DD out for a romp somewhere - we didn't get out of bed until 11.45am today! She's going to bed late and not sleeping teriffically, so sleeps in.
I'm feeling lazy, but staying cooped up inside all afternoon is going to make it a long day/night.
I've discovered the joy of (paid entry) playcentres lately! It's just with the school holidays they are a bit busy. But wow, they are great when no one is there! DD has free run and I can climb in and play with her! Hehehehe, we have so much fun!

Hey S! How are you feeling? Not long now huh? Have you picked any names yet? We love playcentres too, Luca loves climbing up to the top of the soft play tier. Thankfully he hasn't had another fall like in GC!

I've been at the end of my tether with both the kids today because of their grizzling, whinging and fighting - drives me mental!! I'll still have Aliyah tomorrow as she's on school hols til next week, so I won't be completely alone, but I'm planning on whizzing through some housework tomorrow in record time without a toddler tagging along!! Then on Thursday it's my first day of orientation for work, which I'm surprisingly excited about!

OMG I am so over the whinging, crying, tantrums and fighting!! Luca has really been pushing my buttons lately, he throws the biggest wobbly at the drop of a hat with real tears and everything!!! If I don't let him do something or touch something, all hell breaks lose. He has also started being violent to other kids, if someone takes a toy off him he pushes them in their face :eek: he is so strong that he usually wins the fight. As a result he is constantly being told off by other parents, even though I discipline him as well. I really don't want him to be "that horrible kid", I seriously don't know what to do with him!!!

Hope Blake does well at Nursery! You need the p&q!!
xxx

sandralee

08-07-2009, 06:05

Haha our kids sound the same - Noah has been resisting bedtime and naptime for a while now - he always gets a warning or two as sleep time is approaching, so he avoids me like the plague and runs away.. but I perservered and just went through the motioons anyway, and it works!! I wind him down if I can, and talk over his whinging, and put him straight into his cot if he is struggling! From there I act like he is not crying, and offer him a cuddle if he 'stops crying and can be firendly.' Hell, I even sing twinkle twinkle over the top of whinging lol. Then I leave his room, and he ALWAYS has something to say about that lol - but he only cries out of protest for anywhere between 30 secs and on bad days 5 mins. Consistency has been the key for us and it works out well.
Gotta go he is up already - an hour to myself goes so fast! (I got up at 6 lol)
He is still eating vegemite toast or sandwiches 3 times a day, and throws any new foods off his highchair or beckons me to get te OFF. Oh well, one day he will get sick of them. He has gone off yoghurt for now too.
We bought him a bed, but he is yet to sleep on it, we are getting him used tohaving it in his room first. I don't want to mess with his 'mostly' 2hr day naps by putting him into it LOL!
Lots love and back later !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't get a chance to write about much lol
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p.s. my dad called through to my sisters on sunday - he left in a hurry after our chat lol!!!! He is STILL there so now my sis has to have a chat xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Moops

13-07-2009, 05:31

Arghhhhhhh Luca is doing my head in!! :hair: He is going through such a terrible stage, for days he has cried ALL DAY he is so whingy and miserable I have no idea what is wrong with him! I am hoping that he is teething and that his behaviour will improve once they come through. :fingerscrossed:

He is throwing the biggest wobblies if we tell him not to do something or take something off him, if he's hungry, if he's tired, if he's woken up, if I change his nappy, if I leave him, if we come home after a trip to the park - the list goes on and on! Is anyone elses bub like this? When do you start getting concerned if their tantrums/behaviour seems unusual or excessive?!

He's also not eating or sleeping that well, this morning he woke up at 4.55am! He has also started being really naughty and throwing his food off the highchair onto the floor which really winds me up!

DH is going away next weekend, it is so typical that Luca is playing up!

Sands - I can't believe your Dad went to your Sisters after your talk!! He really is avoiding going home isn't he!

How are you feeling? How many weeks are you now? I have been getting m/s on and off this week, I feel reassured when I'm feeling sick but when I'm not I start to freak out!!!!

sandralee

13-07-2009, 09:49

Moops I feel like I could have written your post in regards to EVERYTHING lol - although the tantrum thing peaked for about a month with Noah while molars finished coming through, so don't worry there is light at the end of the tunnel okay?!!!!!! It got so bad that I was googling autism and aspergers cos his tempers were way out of control and more like rages.. really scarey to go through! He still has his tanties but they haven't gone back to what they were! I was changing ALL his nappies while he stood up on the laundry bench (so he couldn't run away) as he would go nowhere NEAR his change table. I used those nappy pants a LOT!
According to my dates I am in week 10 (today I am 9wks 2days) but my scan showed me as 4 days earlier. The 12wk scan is the most accurate so I am just going to work by their dates for my neural trans scan, just to make sure. Lots of m/s here too, comes and goes, but I am not used to feeling yuck during a pregnancy. Earlier on I was concerned too if I DIDN't have it cos I knew it was a healthy sign. On the other end of the scale though I keep thinking about what if my hormone levels are 'too' high - cos I know that's what they test for in the neural trans things. Meh.
I felt so much cruisier with Noah's pregnancy - this one I get worried about the slightest thing lol! I though I would be the opposite!
My sister hasn't had any morning sickness and she is roughly the same stage as me - has her first scan this week. Still hasn't told any family whatsoever, only me, so I am quite protective with her little secret lol. Think I am safe on here though lol??
Dad finally got back to his place late last thurs, but he has booked a brisbane specialist appt for the 17th and would expect to stay. My sister told him no and I will do the same - we need our space and a whole lotta time to recover from the last 19/20mths!!!!!!!!!
I am taking all the comfy furniture out of the room he was staying in - which is also going to be our new nursery. Any guests visiting will now be sleeping on a sofa bed in the entertainment room, even though we have other bedrooms, I don't want guests getting too comfy lol. Have learned my lesson there!!!!!! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

shymmer

14-07-2009, 05:58

Moops - I woudl think it's Luca's molars coming through. He probably can't sleep well because his mouth is uncomfortable and therfore is tired all day = one grumpy boy. Teething can give them insomnia even if no real pain, I believe. It's a hard time for them too.
Xav has just cut her eye teeth, we had a couple weeks of on/off sleeping and tanties. They are through now, but I have a feeling the molars might be on the way . . she isn't quite settled yet.
Are you doping Luca up on some pain relief? Give him some at bed time and it may help him sleep through better, even if you try to let him just work through it during the day. That's what I'm doing atm.
But, yes, it will pass. :hugs:

Sands - good idea about making the guest room a little more uncomfy! I always go out of my way to make guests feel at home . . .but it backfires sometimes huh??

Re: morning sickness - you poor things. I can't tell you how relieved I was when mine eased! I found it so hard to function and having it was never a comfort to me because my sister had next to none and her bub was perfectly healthy, so I didn't judge it as a sign of health or viability - it just made my life very difficult!
And I'm not sure too much of m/s is a bad 'sign' Sands (just very hard to handle). The Nuchal Translucency scan is measuring other hormones related to the Trisomy's (13, 18 and 21), not HCG (which is what causes m/s). At week 10 - 12, the HCG recedes as the placenta takes over feeding baby at that point, which is why the m/s goes. Sometimes it's the increased estrogen that causes m/s in some women and those are the ones who may have m/s the whole pregancy. (sorry if I'm telling you everything you already know!)

Well, I am going 'chest of drawers' shopping today. I'm determined to get something to put this baby's clothes in! Thankfully Xav had a good sleep last night (thankyou Dymadon!) so hopefully she won't be a ratbag while we are out. Unfortunately it's only 7am so too early to hit the shops yet. Might have a shower with her to pass some time.

Oh - that's another suggestion Moops - a shower together really helps Xav to settle for a little while. It's relaxing, warm and I take in toys for her to play with. We both just sit on the floor. There is hardly any room for me to fold my whale of a body in, but I manage!
Luca migh enjoy a swim too - in an adult pool with you. You may already do this . . just trying to think of 'relaxing/soothing' things for him. I keep thinking to take Xav to a heated pool complex - but have yet to do it.

Have a wonderful day lovelies!

quaver

14-07-2009, 19:52

moops- i could have written your post about two weeks ago too! J has gone through really grumpy patches too but none that lasted as long as the other week. he was recovering from an ear infection and i think it took longer than i gave him credit for. Seems to be a bit better now he is getting more sleep.

Since his day sleeps have become almost non existant now, i have decided to give occasional care a go. I am getting busier with my cakes and i am finding that i have no time now that he is not sleeping. i have booked him in for two hours once a week and it has really changed my outlook. i can look forward to that itti bit of time each week. last week he was there for an hour and loved it! phew.

We have spent all weekend painting and changing his room, moving his cot out completley. so bed it is now. i am looking into maybe tresillian to help me with his night sleeps, because i feel like it is getting beyond me and i am failing. i think i will make an appointment to see my gp as i really am having some really down periods that i think are connected to js sleep.

sands- i LOVE those pull up nappies! i am so excited for all you preggie girls! Sorry you are feeling sick though. hah! i have just moved our spare bed to the garage- hows that for hospitality!

shymmer-that is interesting re morning sickness. woa not ready to go through 38 weeks of throwing up though. fingers crossed next time i wont! I am hoping my dr who took my gal balder out is right and that that was causing a heap of my problems!

I am at mum and dads tonight, enjoying their wireless broadband- man i have got to get it! we are here for a little holiday whilst they are away. J is loving feeding the ducks, chicks, cow and horse! i dont know how he is going to go back at boring home tomorrow night!

AliyahBlake

15-07-2009, 06:23

Hi girls!
I'm so frustrated this morning......I just had to cancel my orientation shift on the acute ward at the hospital this morning as Blake is sick. He's had a bad cold/flu thing since Saturday, and every day I've been hoping he was going to get better before today, but no. We were up with him last night at 3:30 and I really haven't slept much since then - poor little man is just full of snot everywhere and he had a fever, and he's been getting diarrhoea. Off to the doctors today I think. I'm disappointed as I was looking so forward to starting on the wards. Craig couldn't take today off as he has a couple of important meetings at work. He can take tomorrow off though so I'll at least be able to go to work.

Sorry to hear about everyone's m/s problems - I don't envy you as I had it with both the kids. Thank god it only lasted the first trimester with both.

As with the day sleep thing - Blake has flat out refused to go into his cot for day sleeps for a while. If he does sleep it's in the car or on the lounge!

Blake does the huge tantrum thing occasionally - it's usually connected with teething or illness. He had one yesterday - for no apparent reason, it just came out of the blue. He did his breath-holding thing (which he's only ever done a couple of times before) and went blue and floppy on me for a couple of seconds. It scared the **** out of me!! He came around ok but was pretty tired for a while after that - stopped the tantrum though! He only has ever done that when he's having a particularly bad tanty, and it's like he gets stuck on a cry/sob and can't figure out how to get his breath back!

Anyway, gotta get the kids some breakfast and get Aliyah ready for school, so back again later.

Moops

15-07-2009, 06:44

Hi everyone

Shymmer - Thanks for that info re m/s I actually didn't know even half of that so thank you for enlightening me! I had reallly bad ms with Luca from week 6-12 and I am 6 weeks today so I'm hoping I won't get it that bad this time. Yesterday I was in the supermarket and it was the first time that I thought "I'm going to puke" thankfully I didn't! Have you picked a name yet for the bub? I'm so excited for you! I felt that my pg lasted forever yet other peoples seem to fly by!

Quaver - Sorry to hear that you are still having problems with James. Does he not like the bed? Are you still having to lie with him till he goes to sleep? I saw a sleep consultant with Luca so let me know what is going on and maybe some of the advice she gave me might help.

Glad to hear that you are getting some 'me' time, it is so important and makes you feel slightly normal again huh?! I was going to the gym and putting Luca in the creche and I really enjoyed it but I've stopped it for a while. Luca loved it for the first 3 times but the the next time he clicked what was going on and had an absolute meltdown! He grabs onto me and digs his fingernails in and they literally have to peel him off him, I absolutely hate it. One day he threw up because he was crying so much. The lady who runs it says I just need to persist but I'm too soft and it breaks my heart. I think he is going through a weird phase at the moment what with the tantrums and clingyness so I don't want to exasperate the problem by traumatising him and leaving him. It is a shame because it now means I get no time to myself.

AB - Arghh that sucks! I always feel bad calling in sick and I think that I'm a slacker etc but I'm sure they understand that you have to be there for your kids. Hope Blake gets better soon, sounds really nasty. xxx

Sands - Oh my gosh I'm exactly the same with this pregnancy, I don't remember worrying this much with Luca (maybe I should re read our old threads lol) but I'm very cautious with this one, everytime I go to the loo I check the paper. I can't wait for 12 weeks! xx

shymmer

15-07-2009, 09:50

Morning girls,

AB - I hope Blake gets better pronto - for all your sakes. How frustrating to have to call in sick. Not that you mind being with Blake of course, just the timing . . . .

I've noticed Xav bottom teeth (between front four and 1st molars) are cutting, hence the upset/tanty displays. At least she slept ok last night. Seems to be off her bottle a bit though . .hmmm, maybe formula is on the way out?
I babysat our nephew the other week and as soon as his mum left, he went to the front door and cried and cried . . so now Xav does it when Dh leaves. :rolleyes: She never did that before she saw him do it. Grrr. I hate it when they pickup bad habits from other kids.

Moops -I also felt like my first pregnancy d.r.a.g.g.e.d. but when you are so busy with kiddo#1, the second pregnancy does go much quicker. The down side is, you are tired, but still have to do do do for kiddo.

I'm on the home stetch girls! Getting pretty uncomfy though now. I did the ironing (first time in a while) and it took about 45min? Man . .. my lower belly was absolutely aching by the end. And my upper back aches a lot too. <sigh> only maybe 8+ weeks to go . . . yay.

The name I like most is Zarie. Dh is not entirely for it. But he wasn't on Xavia either at first. He likes Olivia, which I like too, but it's really popular, so I just cant do it. He forgets that I had Olivia in mind for Xav . . until I found out it was in the top 10 list in half doz countries for the last 10 yrs. So I went off it then. I suggested it as a middle name but he wants it as a first name. I don't know. I just can't do such a popular name, no matter how nice it is. I would enternally regret it if she was one of several Olivia's in her grade at school etc. Plus, I don't really like Oli or Liv as nicknames.

AliyahBlake

15-07-2009, 10:20

It's funny Sands and Moops, hearing you say how much more cautious you are with these pregnancies compared to your last ones. I was so much less cautious with Blake's pregnancy LOL!! When I was pregnant with Aliyah I was careful to eat lots of healthy stuff, not drink too much coffee and stay away from soft cheeses etc, but I didn't really do that as much with Blake. I allowed myself a bit of camembert every now and then, drank coffee and ate a fair bit of junk food (I was craving it so what could I do???) I did check all the time for blood when I went to the loo though, so I did care LOL!!! He turned out ok in the end :laughing:

Shymmer - I really like Zarie for a name - very similar to a name I was considering when pregnant with Aliyah. I was thinking of Zali (after the skiier Zali Steggal), but my cousin named her daughter Zali so I couldn't steal it (and she didn't know I had that name in mind so I forgave her LOL!)

Well, took Blake to the GP this morning (they had 3 GPs off sick so were very busy, but when I explained how crook Blake was they squeezed us in at 9am!). The GP took one look at his left ear and just about fell out of her chair - she said he had a severe middle ear infection and if an adult had presented with an ear like that they'd be pleading for pethidine!!:eek: He also has conjunctivitis and basically his flu has turned bacterial so antibiotics and no daycare for Blake. I've drugged him up now and he seems a bit more comfortable, but I feel awful for letting his ear get that bad. I didn't even realise his ear was that sore - he rubbed it a few times yesterday and said "ears" but then went off and started to play. How the heck do you get a toddler to rest when they're sick? It's near to impossible!!!

shymmer

15-07-2009, 15:05

Wow Ab, Glad you got some meds for him now. And I woudln't worry about him not resting. If he feels up to playing I think that's good, isn't it? He will still get better even if running aorund? He should have a better sleep tonight too with the antibiotics kicking in. Poor little boy.

Well I think Dh has given in on Zarie. I threw out some other even weirder ones, so Zarie sounds quite normal now. LOL. And he wont think past Olivia, so he's no real help. No middle name yet. I don't mind 'Gem' - it's my mum's middle name (Geminor) but she has always been called Gem rather than her first name. But again . . Dh is not keen. And since I'm not going to offer to include his mums' name (Sue), then I wont press the issue. So maybe we'll go with Olivia for the middle name?

Xavia Gia . .

Zarie Gem
Zarie Olivia

I like both. :)

sandralee

16-07-2009, 20:35

AB - poor little Blake! & massive cuddles to you too, not being able to work your first shift! I seriously can't wait for winter to be over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Noah has only had one cold, but after today he might get another one:no: - we went to playgroup, and stepping into the big hall was like a freezer. Noah only had a light top on and his hands ended up so cold they went a purpley colour.
Shymmer - Steve & I keep coming back to the same name that we chose if Noah was going to be a girl - Annika Mercedes Mary. (Mary is his mum's name, my mum's middle name, my dad's mother's name, and my grandma's middle name) For a boy I have no clue lol. I like so many, but no particular one stands out yet. Ta heaps for m/s info, until this week I have been calling it 'neuro' translucency - sounds like some kind of mental problem! I have my first OB/GYN appt on the 20th, that date has come around so fast! So fast, that I still have to get a referral lol!
I feel so out of whack with my feelings lately! And that is an understatement! Not so much a YELLING kind of angry, but moody & sooky. Steve made us a therapy appt to sort out this dogs-living-arrangement thing, so we can both vent with a mediator present..rather than me getting all emotional and divorcing him on an impulse. We are booked in for next weds. Oh yay. It is something I feel so strongly about that I probably WOULD divorce him if things don't change....see? I am unreasonable at the moment and not in the mood for any kind of ****e.
I almost had a fight with a 4yr old little super-turd at playgroup today too. Even before I was pregnant and hormonal this little kid pushed my buttons with her attitude.. she is so horrid, and the mum just stands there with vacant eyes doing absolutely nothing..so today I wanted to jump over the crayon table & tell her what a little cow she was.
Quaver you little sweetie, it is really hard to go through any crap cycles with our kids - in a big way! Several things come to mind and they all have an impact on each other, which would make it feel like even MORE of an emotional bomb! Separation anxiety is very normal, however he may feel it a bit stronger (or a lot LOL)with any changes that have arisen in his life - you have been working hard, he is moving into a bed, starting occasional care, plus picking up on any of your anxiety and stresses. Some kids are so sensitive that they balk if their cot is moved a metre from where it usually stands, so if James is sensitive he will respond even more strongly to any kinds of changes in his life. Kids also pick up on any of our 'poor baby' or 'mummy guilt vibes' - which we put out more strongly when we are unsure about what to do in these hairier situations. If he seems scared in his room, maybe you could try him with a dim night light (I think someone suggested that? not sure) to ease any fears. Noah freaks out quite easily, so we have always had a nightlight in his room so he can see where he is through the night when he stirs. Do you do anything as a regular sleepytime routine? If not, it may be useful to find something to do that signifies bedtime, and it will be a great anchor to get him in that frame of mind. Maybe a nursery rhyme or lullaby that you like? Backrubs can be soothing too and help them relax for sleeping. I used to do what you do, stay in there til he was asleep then sneak out - but I started getting annoyed on the nights he would take longer to go to sleep..I'd be thinking "this is crap. am I going to be doing this til he is 7? the sooner he gets himself to sleep, the better he will sleep through the night cos he won't be expecting ME to be there each time he stirs....etc"
I have never looked back since making a decision to do things differently, and have had a fantastic sleeper. (unless there is something wrong like if he is really sick or something)
Expect some resistance initially if you change how you do things at bedtime, but consistency will be your saving grace. They are old enough to understand everything we say to them, so maybe have a chat and say that you are going to find a special new way to do sleepy time now, because he is a big boy. (or something lol) Give him lots of reassurance that he is safe and loved, and that you will see him in the morning when the sun is up. And try not to focus on guilt or remorse if you leave his room before he is asleep, cos he will pick up on it. (yeah I know, it is very hard not to!) Let him know that you are leaving, as not doing so can add to the separation anxiety thing - he wouldn't relax into sleep, cos you could disappear at any time.
*****to be continued......I have written so much and it would be much easier to have done it verbally lol! Most important things are a)working out what YOU want bedtime to be like b)factoring in his personality - if he takes ages to wind down, steer him to more mellow activities before bed or dimmer lighting etc c) realising that this will burn you out if he doesn't learn to go to sleep by himself d) he will be happier and healthier and get a better quality sleep if he learns to get himself off to sleep. (and you will benefit from that too)
I feel for anyone going through sleep probs - the first 7.5 mths of Noahs life were a sleep deprived nightmare for me....then I saw the light! Only thing I wish I had done earlier was to stop getting him to sleep with my presence in the room - I did that for a while and would sneak out... but I noticed later that he slept more soundly through the night when he got HIMSELF to sleep.
Best of luck with everything!!!!!!! I am so tired that I really hope I have made sense, cos I won't be proofreading it all lol! Lots of love XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

sandralee

16-07-2009, 20:37

NOO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have just spent an hour writing to everyone and lost it when I clicked Reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry quaver cos I had lots of sleep related stuff!!!! Man I am over it. Will try again tomorrow lol. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

shymmer

17-07-2009, 10:58

Such good advice Sands (your post miraculously worked!).
Quaver -I made Xav's transition to her own room over a looong time. I was ok with that though, it was more for me than her, lol. But at the end I realised my being in the room was actually keeping her awake, not helping her go to sleep! Mind you - she is still in a cot so can't follow me out of the room etc. But when I do put her into her big bed, I will prob sleep in the room with her for a few weeks and then gradually take myself out of the room. I like to do big changes slowly.
Probably my only difference of menthod to Sands would be to wait until she is quite tired before putting them in thier big bed, rather than trying to make a non-sleepy child stay in the bed and go to sleep. (which conflicts with when YOU want the bedtime to be) but that is just me . . I am a bit more lax in bed times . . as we all know. lol.

Sands - lovely name you have in mind for a pink bundle! I quite like the name Mercedes (it is on my list), but Dh would liken it to Mercedes Corby - whom he's not a fan of, so I have never mentioned it.
I hope you sort the dog issue out. Why does Steve not want the dogs further from the house? He obviously loves his dogs. I can understand his point - I love my dogs too and let them in the house - they sleep on the bed etc. Dh doesn't like it, but my dogs are Maltese X's and very freindly - not potentially lethal rotwielers, so I completey see your point too, and I would agree with you! I'm not a fan of huge dogs.

Well, to prove my point, I have just put Xav down for a nap when I wanted her to have one . . . and she will not go to sleep. I am only following her habit of the last week, but she slept in a little (woke up a few times last night), Dh is working from home . . so it's all a bit different for her. I want her to have a sleep so we can go out to look for a chest of drawers . . . but I just KNOW if I take her out now, before a sleep, she will be a ratbag!
Sheesh.

Moops

17-07-2009, 16:36

Hello ladies!

Sands - You post was so fab they must have realised it HAD to be kept!!

Sorry I don't have much time at the mo, but will be back later. DH just left for a boys weekend away, I'm so bummed I hate being on my own. It feels like the early days with Luca when I used to clock watch all the time till bedtime! I'm taking Luca for a haircut on Saturday, last time we went he freaked out but I have found a kids hairdressers where they sit it little Thomas the Tank Engine train seats with little tv's in front of them! Hopefully it will go smoother than last time!

As you probably read from FB Luca has been a bit of a sh!t lately with pushing and taking toys off kids etc, the other day the woman who runs playgroup told me off about him. She said I needed to be more proactive and consistent, even though I was up the whole time telling him off and breaking up fights! She made me feel so crap like I wasn't doing a good enough job. Anyway we went to a playcentre yesterday and there was the big kid who kept on pushing Luca but I can't really say anything can i?? Anyway the other kids were just taking it but Luca kept on running after him and rugby tackling him, then I saw Luca on his back with this kid between his legs so Luca wrapped with legs around him so he couldn't get away!!!! Luca ended up crying his eyes out for ages but I couldn't really see what was happened. Last night I took him clothes off to give him a bath and he had a massive bite mark on his back!! Poor little thing!

I'm taking Luca to see our Health Visitor next week, I really want to make sure he is ok. Constant tantrums, crying when we go to busy noisy places, increased clingyness, not talking at all etc etc. I went out to dinner with the mums from my Mums group last night and their kids are all saying 50+ words, linking words, saying body parts! Now I'm worried!

I'm getting ms on and off nothing like I did with Luca so hopefully it's a girl, I know I know it means nothing!

The name I like for a girl is Valentina but I HATE the nicknames Val and Tina so I probably won't choose it. For a boy I like Leo.

shymmer

17-07-2009, 17:44

Valentina is a lovely name Moops. I went to high school with a Valentina. Couple other nicknames I can think of are; Vale, Vally, Vallen - I quite like this one.
Man - I would have been so freakin MAD at that kid for biting Luca! FGS! The dilema is, I think, the more he is around other bullies, the more bad behaviour HE will learn to do. But where can you take them where the play is highly supervised by all parents????? I don't know. What about those more structured activity groups - the music/dancing ones or something? I think you've mentioned going to those before?
I hope your weekend goes smoothly with out Dh there. Maybe try some new activites - Painting with cake mix? (I'm looking forward to summer so I can do this with X, heehhe) Is there an animal nursery somewhere nearby? A water park?

Well, I have basically given up on finding a chest of drawers for this baby. I've been looking at anything that has drawers in it adults/children's, dressers, lingerie chests . . . and it's either way expensive or crap quality and next to nothing available in white. I just can't win.
Any suggestions for something else I can put this kids clothes in?? They are going to be in a pile on the floor at this rate.:confused:

quaver

17-07-2009, 20:06

Hey everyone

thank you so much for all your caring advice. i am lucky to have met such a helpful and non judgemental bunch of girlies:)

ab- How is blake feeling? ear infections are horrible, but can be so hard to pick up. I know when i get them i hardly feel pain in my ear but feel sick and loose my balance all the time. poor little tuckers. they time it well too, hope you are coping with starting work, lack of sleep and sick ones:hugs:

moops- oo i hope that you dont get too sick sweetie! In answering your questions, any wisdom you can all impart!

Does he not like the bed? - it was the cot he was having screaming matches with- the mattress on the bed he is really proud of, shows anyone that comes to the house.

Are you still having to lie with him till he goes to sleep? yes, and it is getting to me already.

Thank you so much for your help girls! even just 'talking' about it is great. J was pretty good at sleep really up until about 1month and a half ago. the routine was, 5.30 food, play bath 6.15 then quiet play in his room with me, reading etc no tv until i put him in his sleeping bag, bottle at bed time in the rocking chair. i would say good night sweetie see you in the morning. he would cuddle timmy the sheep in his cot. i would walk out shut the door. he would cry for about a minute or two but that was it. asleep.
then the sh#t hit the fan after his ear infection. he screamed in his cot and the only way to get him to sleep was to take him back to bed. he was still settling in the day in there and to sleep at 6.30 but then when he woke up at 12 he could not resettle.

then he became worse, hysterical though i was doing the same thing. Once he was better we tried to go back to the cc which worked for us when he was 8 months. it was a nightmare. i week of screaming child, not sleeping. for 6 hours one night we tried to settle him without giving in. just going in every 5 minutes to reassure him, lie him back down. but he did not give up! so that is when we even tried phnergn on the drs advice. to try and break the cycle. but of course j is in the 5% that go hyper with it! at our wits end i put the mattress in his room on the floor. so now the routine is
food 5.30. play bath 6.30. play in room with me read etc. bottle, bag, timmy and then lie with him until he is asleep and then sneak out. it is getting worse though, i am in there pretty much all night!

shymmer- only 8 weeks to go! wow already!!!! I am sooooo excited for you!! dont do the ironing! i am not even pregnant and i dont. Zarie is a pretty name. i like olivia too, i dont worry about what is popular really. with a husband peter and a son James it is a good thing i dont! i like liv as a shortening actually. My fav name is Jessica Kate. dh does not like it though because his first dog was jesse, bummer. I would have no idea about a boy name!

sands- all the best for weds. i think it is great that you are both willing to discuss things, and sometimes you just need someone to hear you both out.
lol you make me laugh! I can just picture you and that 4 year old!

Thank you so much for your caring adivce too. i think you may be right. the separating thing is at peek. the stress through his sickness and then the guilt of having left him there crying when he was sick all added to the picture. i think you are right. i need to be consistant, i think the night light is a really good idea too. and shymmer i think the gradual thing might be an idea too.

you have all helped me in a new plan!

quaver

17-07-2009, 20:16

:geek:dam lost half my post. i had edited it and wrote more to you moops- but now the previous post is a bit long winded but i hope it make some sense!

moops- how dare that woman be so rude the biach! some people just dont get it. people like that annoy me. luca is 18 months for goodness sake! also poor little mite for getting bitten. :hugs:i think luca sounds perfectly normal to me? what is it that you are worried about? that he is behind or has problem? The tantrums are probably frustration. he sounds pretty normal there. how many words does he have? I must admit i have been worried listening to other mums about how many words their kids say. but every kid is different. the signing has really helped J, i can not recomend that enough. it has helped the frustrated mini tantrums, even though he cant say some words he can communicate, which is the main thing. maybe you could give makaton a go. i hope that the nurse can rest your worries. i can understand you checking it out, you are a good mummy.

sandralee

18-07-2009, 06:28

wow it did work lol! Moops I considered Valentina too but didn't like Val - sounds like a granny's name haha! Noah doesn't speak much either, should I be worried? He is like a little caveman, with random clear words (RANDOM & RARE). Shymmer there is a white chest of drawers in boori cot range - maybe you could try eBay for one? they have three drawers on the bottom, then on the top are two. warning though, do not leave wet ones packets on the top cos the date stamp ends up on them!! Grrr
Moops poor Luca getting bitten - plus don't take any crap from that b!tchy woman!!!!!!! You are an awesome mum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Noah is awake gotta go - xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

shymmer

18-07-2009, 10:04

Moops, I woudlnt be too concerned with Luca not saying many words. Xav doesn't. I never really expected her to talk until she was about 2yrs old anyway, so it doesn't bother me that she only says 'dada', 'mumm' and those not even in context - like she doesn't call me mum, she just says it sometimes randomly.
And only in the last week she has said something like 'it's a ball' (whenever holding a ball), but I'm not sure that is what she's saying . . . but as mother I reserve the right to interpret as I see fit (read below)! LOL

Keep in mind, lots of mum's out there exagerate what thier kids can do/say. I have a friend who reckoned her 9mth old son said 'grandpa'. Um . . . .don't think so dear. :rolleyes: Of course he never said it again . . because he didn't 'say' it in the first place. So take it with a grain of salt. Some people can't tell the difference between fluke sounds and actual words.
I remember when Xav was around 1yr, she said what sounded like 'Xavia'. She said it a few times, but it was pure fluke. She hasn't said it since. So I don't go around telling people she can say it - but some mothers would.
Also, kids develop in different areas. Boys are slower with language, girls quicker. But boys are faster with motor skills - something Luca is proof of! He's going to be a man of action, not words! That's a quality to be proud of!!!! "Doing is better than saying".
Not to mention, Luca has been walking for what? . . a year?? Xav has only started walking full time for a month!!! 19mths old before she walked more than half a doz steps! And she doesn't talk much . . . if anyone's kid is slow I think it might be mine! LOL! But I think she is perfectly normal, and I know Luca is too. If he can hear you, and understand you, I think he's fine.

You know, a couple of months ago, Xav was 'kneeing' it around my mum's place and my dad was there and said, if he made a 'harness' for her so I could force her to stand up and walk, would I use it. :eek: I said NO. FGS.

So don't get caught up in the preconcieved idea's of society that your child should be doing this or that by a certain age and anything outside that means something is 'wrong'. I'm happy to let X learn at her own pace.

xxx

Nan

18-07-2009, 16:15

Helooooooo ladies!
Welcome 'mylittleprincess'. :wave: Your little one sounds very bright!! Don't stress with the TT.....heaps of time yet.

Ooooooooooohh Moops! You're pregnant!! :yelclap: YAY! That's GREAT news hon! I'm SO SO SO happy for you mate! (See, this is why I really should stop by here and chat more......I miss chatting to you girls! You rock! :yes:) Well, I'm so behind the news aren't I? I hope you have an amazing, healthy pregnancy and bub. I'm so excited for all the new babies on the way.....I feel a bit like an Aunty!! lol Man, pity you only discovered the bite when you got home. I'd have had a few (not so) choice words for the mum & the kid if it happened to either of my kids.

AB - What a sucky week or so for you. So sorry! I'm glad Blake is feeling a bit better now. How are you enjoying your new job?

Em - Wow! J has given you some grief, hey? I hope you get some quality sleep soon. Caleb is still funny with CC sometimes. A couple of nights a few weeks ago he woke every 30 mins or so and if I let him cry he just doesn't stop! I have to go in every 5-10 mins, but after 3 cycles, I just get him him up and play with him or watch TV and it breaks the cycle and he goes down ok after that. Thank God it doesn't happen often only when he's overtired or sick. How are the cakes coming along? Don't feel bad about leaving J to cry when he was sick. We've all done that at some stage. They can still be so hard to read when they can't talk and tell you what's going on.

Lots of sickness & sleep issues with the Nov 07 kids aren't there? Poor things......and poor mums!! I have no advice on the sleep thing other than get in early with the CC next time! Tell them early on when YOU want THEM to sleep instead of letting them dictate. Both mine are great sleepers and I put it down to trying it soon after birth (against expert opinion, but have never been one to fit the mold). Having said that, Caleb still wakes up some nights a few hours after he's gone to sleep just for a drink or cuddle. :confused: No idea what that's about but he usually goes off again by himself, which is good.

shymmer - I love the name Olivia. If you love it, you should have it! Don't worry about if its popular. Your Olivia will be her own spirit & their won't be another like her in the whole world!! Re: the drawers. I actually got a cheap raw pine chest of drawers and painted it myself. I did it in an afternoon. I couldn't find anything in an off white colour, so I bought some paint and painted Eden a chest of drawers & a bookshelf. Shane painted her bed too, later on. It's an antique white & so nice..... We got Caleb's bed from Ebay & just polished it up a bit. He's not in it yet though. Then we got a raw pine bookshelf & got a guy to stain it the same as the bed. Voila!! :p Hope you find something. Sometimes it takes a while to find something you want, hey? Took me 6 months to find the ottoman I found on the w/e.

Sands - Is your dad still with your sis? What a dilemma. I was under the impression he'd moved on, too. You're a fantastic daughter for putting up with your parents' mess. I'm the sibling my parents run too, as well, so I know how you feel. :hugs: Any resolution with the dog situation?

RB - How're you doing mate?? Haven't heard from you in a while.

Mandy - So good to hear from you. Little Kaylee is so gorgeous! Hope you're doing ok.

A BIG hello, hugs & kisses to everyone else. xoxoxoxox

sandralee

18-07-2009, 20:11

Yes Mandy, Kaylee is gorgeous! Must be so nice to have a little girl to add to your family. I am a bit scared that if I am having another boy, that I will be tempted to try again - but I have sworn never to be 'one of those people' LOL! I will be finding out the sex at the 18-19wk scan, but not telling family this time. They can patiently wait and get a surprise on the day haha! I will be telling you guys though!! :laughing: So watch this space in 9-10wks to see if I have made a daughter or not. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p.s. so glad to hear you enjoyed melbourne Nan! I was tempted to go down for the day with Steve this week so I could go shopping, but will wait for warmer weather hehe xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Moops

19-07-2009, 05:14

Well I think Dh has given in on Zarie. I threw out some other even weirder ones, so Zarie sounds quite normal now. LOL.

I like Zarie Gem! You like the lower end of the alphabet don't you! lol!

Shymmer - Steve & I keep coming back to the same name that we chose if Noah was going to be a girl - Annika Mercedes Mary.
I like Annika, it kind of reminds me of Anakin! I don't know anyone called that, which is nice!

I feel so out of whack with my feelings lately! And that is an understatement! Not so much a YELLING kind of angry, but moody & sooky.
Gosh I know how you feel! I cry at the drop of a hat at the moment! Unlike you though I flit between moments of rage and then crying and sooking. Poor DH! I must have told him at least 5 times this week that I want a divorce!

I almost had a fight with a 4yr old little super-turd at playgroup today too. Even before I was pregnant and hormonal this little kid pushed my buttons with her attitude.. she is so horrid, and the mum just stands there with vacant eyes doing absolutely nothing..so today I wanted to jump over the crayon table & tell her what a little cow she was.
Hahaha that is so funny! Believe me I have been in that position before! Some kids really wind me up! My friend told a little kid to stop pulling her Son's hair and he said "Who are you?? Get lost!" Can you believe it??!

Valentina is a lovely name Moops. I went to high school with a Valentina. Couple other nicknames I can think of are; Vale, Vally, Vallen - I quite like this one.

Oohhh I love Vallen! I quite like that as a name actually lol! I had gone off Valentina because like Sands said it sounds like a granny! But now you've suggested Vallen as a nickname it's back on my list! DH also likes Serafina but I'm not sure. God I hope it's a girl, DH has the worst names picked out for a boy. They are really old school Italian names, he is dead keen on them but I've told him no way!

Man - I would have been so freakin MAD at that kid for biting Luca! FGS! The dilema is, I think, the more he is around other bullies, the more bad behaviour HE will learn to do. But where can you take them where the play is highly supervised by all parents????? I don't know. What about those more structured activity groups - the music/dancing ones or something? I think you've mentioned going to those before?

I totally agree, how is he supposed to know it is wrong when he sees everyone else doing it? I find that he is fine if I take him to music or dancing classes it just seems to be when we go to playgroup and there are lots of toys that everyone wants. Most of the Supervisors there are childminders so they don't really give a sh!t!

I hope your weekend goes smoothly with out Dh there. Maybe try some new activites - Painting with cake mix? (I'm looking forward to summer so I can do this with X, heehhe) Is there an animal nursery somewhere nearby? A water park?

Thanks hun, it has gone ok actually. Today I took him for a haircut (it went really badly!) then to the park then I took him out to dinner! We got home just before bathtime so it was great!

Well, I have basically given up on finding a chest of drawers for this baby. I've been looking at anything that has drawers in it adults/children's, dressers, lingerie chests . . . and it's either way expensive or crap quality and next to nothing available in white. I just can't win.
Any suggestions for something else I can put this kids clothes in?? They are going to be in a pile on the floor at this rate.

Hmmm I'll have a look for you. I saw some hanging draws from Ikea if you get desperate!

Does he not like the bed? - it was the cot he was having screaming matches with- the mattress on the bed he is really proud of, shows anyone that comes to the house.

Are you still having to lie with him till he goes to sleep? yes, and it is getting to me already.

How much does J sleep during the day? Is he tired at bedtime? I know that I have to look at Luca's daytime sleeps when he playing up at bedtime. Is his room too dark? I'm just thinking of what could be scaring him. I think you are doing a great job, it is hard to know what to do in these situations. Luca is the same as J, cc just doesn't work he could cry all night if he wanted to! I think the key is to make sure they are really sleepy for bedtime and maybe he'll just nod off?

i think luca sounds perfectly normal to me? what is it that you are worried about? that he is behind or has problem? The tantrums are probably frustration. he sounds pretty normal there. how many words does he have? I must admit i have been worried listening to other mums about how many words their kids say. but every kid is different. the signing has really helped J, i can not recomend that enough. it has helped the frustrated mini tantrums, even though he cant say some words he can communicate, which is the main thing. maybe you could give makaton a go. i hope that the nurse can rest your worries. i can understand you checking it out, you are a good mummy.

I'm a bit worried after having dinner with my friends and seeing how advanced their kids are, Luca is way behind. I'm not exaggerating when I say that all he says is Mumma, Dada, gone and hi. I'm more concerned about him not imitating what we say, we go through words all the time with him and he never copies us. He doesn't do any animal noises etc and we point to our body parts etc and he never does it. I'm also worried because he seems to cry all the time at the moment, especially when I take him to things where there are lots of kids. He used to love these places now he seems scared/insecure/frightened by it. I was putting it down to him teething and being miserable but I'm not sure.

Moops, I woudlnt be too concerned with Luca not saying many words. Xav doesn't. I never really expected her to talk until she was about 2yrs old anyway, so it doesn't bother me that she only says 'dada', 'mumm' and those not even in context - like she doesn't call me mum, she just says it sometimes randomly.
And only in the last week she has said something like 'it's a ball' (whenever holding a ball), but I'm not sure that is what she's saying . . . but as mother I reserve the right to interpret as I see fit (read below)! LOL

Keep in mind, lots of mum's out there exagerate what thier kids can do/say. I have a friend who reckoned her 9mth old son said 'grandpa'. Um . . . .don't think so dear. :rolleyes: Of course he never said it again . . because he didn't 'say' it in the first place. So take it with a grain of salt. Some people can't tell the difference between fluke sounds and actual words.
I remember when Xav was around 1yr, she said what sounded like 'Xavia'. She said it a few times, but it was pure fluke. She hasn't said it since. So I don't go around telling people she can say it - but some mothers would.
Also, kids develop in different areas. Boys are slower with language, girls quicker. But boys are faster with motor skills - something Luca is proof of! He's going to be a man of action, not words! That's a quality to be proud of!!!! "Doing is better than saying".
Not to mention, Luca has been walking for what? . . a year?? Xav has only started walking full time for a month!!! 19mths old before she walked more than half a doz steps! And she doesn't talk much . . . if anyone's kid is slow I think it might be mine! LOL! But I think she is perfectly normal, and I know Luca is too. If he can hear you, and understand you, I think he's fine.

You know, a couple of months ago, Xav was 'kneeing' it around my mum's place and my dad was there and said, if he made a 'harness' for her so I could force her to stand up and walk, would I use it. :eek: I said NO. FGS.

So don't get caught up in the preconcieved idea's of society that your child should be doing this or that by a certain age and anything outside that means something is 'wrong'. I'm happy to let X learn at her own pace.

xxx

Thanks Hun, you are totally right! I always take my mothers group with a pinch of salt, their kids slept through the night from 3 weeks and do everything on schedule. Yeah right! Dh hates them he thinks they are full of it. My best friend, who I totally love is guilty of it as well. When I came back from Oz she told me her Son was saying all these words but when I heard him say it I nearly laughed. He would say "Baw" and she says "Yes a ball" or he'd say "Oon" and she says "Well done yes it is a balloon" so naturally she counts these all as words! She also criticises Luca for not really using cutlery, yet she shovels it on the spoon for him so he doesn't do it himself! Gosh it is hard to not be competitive, I'm just get a bit worried.

Helooooooo ladies!
Welcome 'mylittleprincess'. Your little one sounds very bright!! Don't stress with the TT.....heaps of time yet.

Ooooooooooohh Moops! You're pregnant!! YAY! That's GREAT news hon! I'm SO SO SO happy for you mate! (See, this is why I really should stop by here and chat more......I miss chatting to you girls! You rock! ) Well, I'm so behind the news aren't I? I hope you have an amazing, healthy pregnancy and bub. I'm so excited for all the new babies on the way.....I feel a bit like an Aunty!! lol Man, pity you only discovered the bite when you got home. I'd have had a few (not so) choice words for the mum & the kid if it happened to either of my kids.

Hey Nan! How have you been? We've missed you! Thank you, we are very excited! I just hope it sticks!

Yes Mandy, Kaylee is gorgeous! Must be so nice to have a little girl to add to your family. I am a bit scared that if I am having another boy, that I will be tempted to try again - but I have sworn never to be 'one of those people' LOL! I will be finding out the sex at the 18-19wk scan, but not telling family this time. They can patiently wait and get a surprise on the day haha! I will be telling you guys though!! :laughing: So watch this space in 9-10wks to see if I have made a daughter or not. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p.s. so glad to hear you enjoyed melbourne Nan! I was tempted to go down for the day with Steve this week so I could go shopping, but will wait for warmer weather hehe xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Is that the normal time for the scan? We have to find out at a 22 week scan here, so p!ssed off! The first scan they do here is at 12-13 weeks and I'm going to be in Italy so I have to wait till I get back. I think I will duck into the Early Pregnancy Unit before I go just to make sure everything is ok. I think I will be so nervous finding out the sex that I almost don't want to know! I'm trying to psyche myself up for the fact that it's probably a boy. I don't think I could cope with two Luca's!! xxxxx

quaver

19-07-2009, 07:02

Keep in mind, lots of mum's out there exagerate what thier kids can do/say. I have a friend who reckoned her 9mth old son said 'grandpa'. Um . . . .don't think so dear. Of course he never said it again . . because he didn't 'say' it in the first place. So take it with a grain of salt. Some people can't tell the difference between fluke sounds and actual words.
slower with language, girls quicker. But boys are faster with motor skills - something Luca is proof of! He's going to be a man of action, not words! That's a quality to be proud of!!!! "Doing is better than saying".

:iagree: well said

You know, a couple of months ago, Xav was 'kneeing' it around my mum's place and my dad was there and said, if he made a 'harness' for her so I could force her to stand up and walk, would I use it. I said NO. FGS.

:eek: wow. all in their own time. x sounds like she is doing great at walking now!

xxx

hey nan!

Em - Wow! J has given you some grief, hey? I hope you get some quality sleep soon. Caleb is still funny with CC sometimes. A couple of nights a few weeks ago he woke every 30 mins or so and if I let him cry he just doesn't stop! I have to go in every 5-10 mins, but after 3 cycles, I just get him him up and play with him or watch TV and it breaks the cycle and he goes down ok after that. Thank God it doesn't happen often only when he's overtired or sick. How are the cakes coming along? Don't feel bad about leaving J to cry when he was sick. We've all done that at some stage. They can still be so hard to read when they can't talk and tell you what's going on.

thanks honey it is not very fun hey. how is caleb doing now? The cakes are going really well thanks. i have a display at the baby and kids market on the 30th of august and the orders are coming in. slowly, but good. i really love it.

Lots of sickness & sleep issues with the Nov 07 kids aren't there? Poor things......and poor mums!! I have no advice on the sleep thing other than get in early with the CC next time! Tell them early on when YOU want THEM to sleep instead of letting them dictate. Both mine are great sleepers and I put it down to trying it soon after birth (against expert opinion, but have never been one to fit the mold). Having said that, Caleb still wakes up some nights a few hours after he's gone to sleep just for a drink or cuddle. No idea what that's about but he usually goes off again by himself, which is good.

sands- sending you girl vibes!! I cant wait to find out. today i am writing in pink just for you!!!!

I'm a bit worried after having dinner with my friends and seeing how advanced their kids are, Luca is way behind. I'm not exaggerating when I say that all he says is Mumma, Dada, gone and hi. I'm more concerned about him not imitating what we say, we go through words all the time with him and he never copies us. He doesn't do any animal noises etc and we point to our body parts etc and he never does it. I'm also worried because he seems to cry all the time at the moment, especially when I take him to things where there are lots of kids. He used to love these places now he seems scared/insecure/frightened by it. I was putting it down to him teething and being miserable but I'm not sure.
:hugs::hugs: you really are worried. do you think he could be scared of something at playgroup? a kid biting him on the back is not going to help. they are at their peek clingyness at this stage dont forget. give him time. he is probably just storing it all up and will one day suddenly burst out with all these words. we all do it but it does not help ourselves when we compare kids. i think you need to see someone so that you can give your mind a rest. oh and j does not feed himself either. J is hardly having a day sleep at all. he has pretty much dropped it every other day. he will have about 20 minutes around 1pm. so he is tired. I am going to try and use music as a sleep cue again. starting monday night. I am going to win this!!!!!!!

shymmer

19-07-2009, 11:39

Re: the sleep issues . . it's a bit of a catch 22 - If they don't get good rest (ie: decent day nap if needed) then they wont rest well at night. But too much sleep in the day can make them stay up longer or feel groggy. . . . .

Moops - do you think Luca is tired all the time? Is he hungry? And that's why he upsets so easily atm? Is there any new foods he's had that might be making him feel off or hyper? Maybe he's having a growth spurt? Is he still having restless nights? Have you tried Rescue Remedy?? AB said it helped Blake sleep better. (sorry for 20 questions, lol)
I'd avoid the playgroups for a while, or YOU sit and play with Luca and keep the other kids away from him to a degree. The more he see's you interacting with the other kids - 'be gentle, don't snatch, share, talk softly etc', he will learn what is nice behaviour from YOU. And if you are right there and making sure they don't hurt or bully him, he will feel safer and happier. It also allows you to stop him immediately if he even 'goes' to push/snatch from another child - rather than after he's already done it. Just a thought. If you hover over him the other kids will notice and be more careful around him. (hopefully)

Xav never repeats what we say either! She knows what I'm talking about though. In fact the only things she says with meaning is 'go!' to the dogs, and recently 'bye' and the 'it's a ball' ? one. So, what, 2 + 1 dubious word? LOL She's going to be a writer, I tell you! The words are in her head I'm sure, but they will flow on a page . . .not from her lips . . . ahhhh, see? Genious in the making!!!
Luca might be a numbers boy. An engineer? He's a smart cookie, just doesn't want you to get too much of the 'proud mumma' syndrome . . . I mean, he is an exceptionally good looking kid - if he let on how smart he was too, well, the pressure to perform . . . . sheesh! :D

Hey Nan! Great to hear from you!

Quaver - yep, Xav is walking really well now. Almost running!
Her feet do turn out a bit and she tends to roll inward on the soles a bit too, but I'm just waiting to see if her ankles strengthen up with time before I look into that - she hasn't been walking very long.

Xav has accidently put her teeth into her bottom lip twice in the last week! Poor darling. Not too seriously - but there was blood! And tears! and I felt so sorry for her! She is starting to thin out now too (getting taller) and losing her baby chubbiness. Feels strange to hold this looong narrow child in my arms instead of a chubby little bambola! And I need to stock up on hair products . . she wont keep bands or clips in her hair and I AM NOT GOING TO CUT IT, so I need moose's etc to tighten the curl and keep it off her face. Might as well buy her some lip-gloss while I'm at it, hey? And you know, around here (high asian population) you can buy the cutest little girl shoes with a small heal! OMG. Adorable! (no doubt terrible for thier feet/calves though lol) .. now just to find a 'pageant' of some sort I can enter her in to . . . . .:laughing:

Nan

19-07-2009, 13:25

shymmer - Ooooww! Poor Xav. That's painful. I put my back teeth through my cheek a few weeks back and it killed! Poor kids. You forget how much these things hurt them. You're right about the catch 22. There's such a fine line when it comes to sleep. Its an art form I tell you!

today i am writing in pink just for you!!!!
:laughing: Cool!

Moops - Please don't be worried about Luca. From what you've said, he sounds perfectly normal!! I studied Early Childhood Development at Uni and have lots of charts and checklists in my old text books (I've also worked with babies & toddlers) and he seems fine to me. :yes: He may just be at the lower end of the developmental spectrum - which is SO broad its not funny! :rolleyes: Not very helpful for parents! I have a good friend whose boy is almost 4 and is very quiet and rarely speaks. He knows the words, but is one of those boys that isn't very verbal. He's still a good old 'rough & tumble' boy (loves action figures, trucks, rough & messy play etc), just a more non-talkative version if that makes sense! Every kid is different is the biggest clique in the book, but man its true!! Everyone kept telling me Caleb would walk then talk because that's what boys do.....what a crock! :laughing:

Sands - I forgot to say I love the name Annika too. I really love it, but Shane isn't too keen so no Annikas in our house! Naming kids is bloody hard isn't it?! I hope you have a girl, but I'll also pray that you'll have strength if it's decided you are supposed to be a mum of 3 boys! :p

Well, the most interesting news here is that I'm late. Yes, I mean LATE late! 11 days late to be precise.......not that anything is certain when it comes to my hormones. I went to my specialist & they're all outta whack again, so I'm definitely not getting my hopes up. 39 days without AF so not sure what's going on, but time will tell. We BD'ed twice after we ran out of condoms, so pg is possible. Shane attitude was "if its meant to be, its meant to be". MEN!!! Will take sex any old way they can get it, I reckon! lol We then went back to condoms because he's still not 100% keen. Hhhmmmm, the decision may have been taken out of his hands. We'll see........like I said - no excitement. POAS and got 2 :bfn: but it would have only been a few days PO as I ovulate very late in my cycle, if at all. It's a science isn't it? So there you go! Will AF come or not?!! I don't like the waiting game...............

Moops

19-07-2009, 15:36

Thanks for all your nice comments guys, I just don't want Luca to be a thicko! But like Shymmer said he was crawling at 5 months, and walking at 9 months so how behind could he be?! lol. He also understands a lot of what I say, he gets his shoes, he knows when we say we are going out, he runs to his room when I say it's time for bed etc. I took him to a playcentre yesterday morning and we were the only ones there and it was BLISS! I know it isn't helping his social skills but I didn't have to worry about anything and just let him do what he wanted. As soon as a couple of kids turned up, the tears started. Maybe you guys are right and he is scared of being hit, pushed or bitten. Also having a few random night wakings where he cries but when I go in he's fast asleep, is this when they start having nightmares?? I think I'm going to go to see our health visitor just to see what she says, although she was shocked when I told her Luca wasn't talking at his 8 month check up!:eek:

Hey Nan, Wow I hope you get a BFP!!!! My cycle was 38 days so that is why I never knew when I was ovulating. I did a hpt when I thought it was 6 days from af but I got a bfn so I did it again a couple of days later and got my bfp! Is your af usually late or that late? Have you been overly stressed lately? xxx

Nan

19-07-2009, 19:29

Not any more stressed than usual, Moops. I take progesterone to regulate my cycle and haven't been this late for years. I've been early the odd time (21 or 25 days) when AF came back after both kids, but not this late except when I wasn't taking the progesterone or when I was pregnant, so if I'm not pg I have no idea what is going on. :confused:

shymmer

19-07-2009, 20:30

Moops - I also think they start to dream or have nightmares now too. Some nights Xav has just cried out in her sleep, and sometimes she has woke crying, but gone back to sleep fairly easily. My thoughts were that she was dreaming. A night mare would really scare them I think and they would be very upset. A "night-terror" is something else - where they may have their eyes open but they are still asleep and uncontrolably thrashing around, crying. They don't hear you or acknowledge that you are even there. If you take them out of the cot they won't know what they are doing and may run smack bang into the wall etc - because they are not awake. (so leave them in the cot!)
But I think at this stage even a dream would be scary. They wouldn't understand why one second they are in the playground - and the next second in a dark room in bed!?!? So even if the dream was pleasent or fun, unexpectantly waking into a dark room would be very confusing and upsetting. That's my theory anyway.

And oh yeah . . an empty playcentre is SO GOOD!! And screw the social skills! He's there to have fun! If it's not fun, no point going.

Oooh Nan . . . . how much longer will you wait before testing again? Do you feel pregnant? Any other symptoms giving you a clue??

Well I just made some yummy jam-drops. Mmmmm, better go eat as many as I can while they are still warm!

AliyahBlake

20-07-2009, 14:21

Zarie Gem

Ooh Shymmer I do like that name!!!

I have found a kids hairdressers where they sit it little Thomas the Tank Engine train seats with little tv's in front of them!
Cute!!!

I'm taking Luca to see our Health Visitor next week, I really want to make sure he is ok. Constant tantrums, crying when we go to busy noisy places, increased clingyness, not talking at all etc etc. I went out to dinner with the mums from my Mums group last night and their kids are all saying 50+ words, linking words, saying body parts! Now I'm worried!
I wouldn't worry too much Moops - it all sounds pretty normal for his age, and he may be just a little more sensitive than other kids. Blake's not a huge talker either although his words are getting easier to understand. He's most definitely not linking words yet.....apparently they aren't supposed to be able to do that until they are at least 2! He's very clingy with me as well. But most definitely take him to the nurse if you're worried because at least it'll put your mind at ease.

So don't get caught up in the preconcieved idea's of society that your child should be doing this or that by a certain age and anything outside that means something is 'wrong'. I'm happy to let X learn at her own pace.

:iagree: Yep!! As long as they can talk by the time they get to school then it's all good!!!

Gosh it is hard to not be competitive, I'm just get a bit worried.

Oh totally!! I think that it's human nature to compare your kids with others of the same age........everyone does it to a certain degree, but the thing to remember is that they are all develop at different speeds and levels. I even compare Blake at this age to Aliyah at the same age, and that's so not a good thing to do.......for a start, she's a girl, so development is completely different anyway!! Aliyah was a really good talker at this age, but Blake's not. Blake, however, can build a mean Lego tower and bounce a big ball on the floor a couple of times in a row, whereas Aliyah didn't have a clue about those things! See, I'm comparing them even now LOL!!!

He may just be at the lower end of the developmental spectrum - which is SO broad its not funny! :rolleyes: Not very helpful for parents! I have a good friend whose boy is almost 4 and is very quiet and rarely speaks. He knows the words, but is one of those boys that isn't very verbal. He's still a good old 'rough & tumble' boy (loves action figures, trucks, rough & messy play etc), just a more non-talkative version if that makes sense! Every kid is different is the biggest clique in the book, but man its true!!
:iagree: That is soooooo true about the developmental charts (apparently they are completely outdated as well - haven't been changed since the 1960's or something my ECH nurse told me last year!!). I don't really pay much attention to them. Yeah, and my nephew is 6 weeks older than Aliyah, and was a late talker, very shy and clingy, and takes a long time to settle into new situations, but loves to draw and paint, make things and is pretty active too. Aliyah has started school this year but he won't start until next year as he's not socially ready!

Well, the most interesting news here is that I'm late. Yes, I mean LATE late! 11 days late to be precise.......not that anything is certain when it comes to my hormones.
Well, good luck Nan - I hope it turns out to be a :bfp: for you as I know how much you've been wanting it!! My period was always irregular and I never knew when I ovulated so I know that feeling of waiting to see if AF will come or not......so frustrating!!!

Well we are a bunch of sickies in this house!! Blake is much, much better thank goodness, but Craig, Aliyah and I have been unwell over the weekend. Aliyah was throwing up on Saturday (all over her carpet and it still stinks of scrambled eggs which I gave her for breakfast.....gross!!) and she's had tummy pains so I kept her home today. She's also got a bit of conjunctivitis like Blake had. She has pepped up this afternoon though so I think she's on the mend. Craig and I have general flu symptoms but only mild.....enough to make us both feel like absolute poo though. Hopefully we'll all be better for Wednesday so I can go to work. Blake has slept through the night the last 2 nights so that's been great, and he now has his day sleep in the loungeroom on his fold out kiddie sofa with teddy - he'll stay asleep for an hour! I think he just likes to be out with us during the day.

Anyway, that's all I can think of - hope all of you are well :-)

Nan

20-07-2009, 15:40

Oooh Nan . . . . how much longer will you wait before testing again? Do you feel pregnant? Any other symptoms giving you a clue??
Nope! I've felt a bit 'seedy' the past few mornings and into the afternoon, like nauseous but not enough to be counted as nausea I don't think! I don't feel 'chucky' just a bit blah. No sore boobs or gagging when I brush my teeth. They were the first signs with my 2. If AF doesn't come beforehand, I'll test again next week.

Well we are a bunch of sickies in this house!! Blake is much, much better thank goodness, but Craig, Aliyah and I have been unwell over the weekend.
Bugger! That's not good. :hugs: So many sickies at the moment. Stay away from here! We're germ free at the moment. Where's some wood for me to touch?! :p Vomit is the most penetrable smell isn't it? It permeates everything!!! I can't stand it. Caleb had a couple of small spews in the middle of the night last month (& that's all thank God.....never did find out what caused it) and some of his blankets wreaked even though there was none on there. So gross!! Anyway, hope you guys are feeling well soon & you can work Wednesday.

Lozie

22-07-2009, 10:48

Hello well arent we a talkative bunch now!!

I skimmed thru most of the post gosh everyone has been busy must have been why we werent so active for a while!

Shymmer I love the name Zarie it's almost like my name .... very pretty and as Gem as a middle name i rekon it fits great as what a compliment for your mum!!

Nan :fingerscrossed: you get a :bfp: soon!! I decided that we will ttc soon for a girl i informed ( hehe i love doing that:devil:) Dh the other night he was little shocked cause after my MC i was so determined not to try again for a long time but as the weeks go on it feels like there is something missing ya know on of my friends is due around the same time i was so it's a little upsetting sometimes she brang her 20 week scan pic over the other day i would have been a few weeks behind her if that baby was a sticky one... anyways we are going to do it!
so Melbryan send me ur girl diet please!!!!

Ab hugs for Blake hope he's better now, Balin's been sick lately too he had tonsilitis i think he picked it up from kindy :rolleyes:

Mandy Kaylee is absolutely adorable!!! I love reading ur status on face book about her :goodvibes:

Ok now onto me well nothing much else is new except for what i said up there .... Balin is doing great talking heaps, he got his first black eye today poor chook i had called him for morning tea and he came running across the yard and went to go up the stairs quickly and tripped and hit his face on one of the stairs.. he's ok was a little shaken for a minute but had some food and was off playing again lol.

well i think that is enough from me for today i have to get ready and go to work soon.... yay..... :rolleyes: should be awesome fun LOL take care!!!

xxoo

quaver

23-07-2009, 07:20

lozie- poor little balin getting a black eye:( the way they climb and throw themselves around it is amazing how they stay in one piece!
You are such a stong person. i am excited for you that you are thinking about the girl diet too.
nan-anything either way yet? must be so frustrating for you!
ab- how did the first shift at the new job go?

:hugs:for the sickies at the moment

Well i scared myself this week. tues night DH had to call the ambulance. I had massive chest pains, could not breathe well. i thought i was really in trouble. I tried to keep calm with J there lying on the bathroom floor. (he went and got me his pillow and his sheep soft toy and his dummy) The ambos did an ecg but it was all good. so on further examination i have costochondritis. the dr said it is an intense pain that people end up in er thinking they have had a heart attack. so dh has a couple of days off.

gotta go, he has to log in from home. poor baby doing two jobs!
xxx you all

Nan

23-07-2009, 14:47

OMG quaver, that's horrible! I hope you're feeling better now. Is there any underlying condition that could have caused it? Good on your DH for staying home for a while.

sandralee

23-07-2009, 21:32

Jeez Quaver how frightening!!!!!! I hope you never have to go through another episode like that again, would be very scarey!! (and thank you for the pink writing XXXXXXXX) Stress could have instigated that condition????? Since Noah joined our family, I have had fairly frequent heart palpitations - and I just put it down to being anxious a lot lol. That little boy can be an angel, and then switch to a stress-inducing ratbag who frays my nerves with his sudden change of temperament. MAN!
NAN I HOPE YOU HAVE A BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How exciting!!!! If not this time, just get SHane a bit tipsy and bonk his brains out lol! Slip some zinc into his OJ haha!!!
GIrls I have bought a gender predictor kit - how freakin funny is THAT! I can tell you guys absolutely anything..but to everyone on FB we are telling them that WE ARE NOT FINDING OUT THE SEX AND THAT IT WILL BE A SURPRISE! If anyone knew that WE knew, they would pester us for months to find out! It was $80 and arrived today - have to do a wee first thing in the morning and test with that. It is meant to be above 90% accurate, but knowing me I still won't trust the result in case I did something wrong. I read the instructions, and there are so many do's and don'ts LOL! WIll keep you posted. It's called the IntelliGender - apparently you can use it after 8wks, and I am too impatient to wait haha! Yeah Moops the scan is around the 18-19wk mark. If you are not going to be around for your 12wk nucal tests, there is such a small window to do them in, from 12wks-13wks6days - will you be home in time for that? My scan is booked at the 4d place on the 12/8 where I should be a little over 13wks, and I am getting the blood work done a few days before.
And AB, when I said I was more stressed about this pregnancy, I didn't mean the foods that I was avoiding - more like I just worry about it more in general, like I could find out any day now that something is wrong. Weird I know, but with Noah I just felt like all was well no matter what, and didn't think about miscarriages or anything - it FELT like a magical pregnancy to me. This time though I have stressed frequently about miscarrying, or having something wrong in general. I even felt a weird feeling before I conceived - hope my worries turn out to be nothing though, and that I have more fears these days just cos I am more anxious in general. Noah has frayed my nerves so much over the months with sudden random outbursts, it sends my whole body into terror when I hear that shrill sound. Reminds me of Splash when the mermaid made that high pitched sound and the noise smashed windows and tv sets lol. I am not kidding when I say that it has THAT much of an effect on me! He is starting to mellow out heaps more as he is getting older & isn't so demanding. But that sound!.....it is only a quick one syllable sound, but the pitch of it would send a pack of wild animals running!!
I really don't have a clue about baby names, I will no doubt continue to play around with about 2million of them in my head until one just sticks. Hoping that I can pick a girls name this time though, not sure how I am going to react if it's a boy. I feel so hell bent on a girl that I haven't even ventured into the 'boy zone cabinet of feelings.' I can't exactly send it BACK can I lol!!??
Well sweet dreams ladies,
I am going to get some sleep so I can get up as early as 5am - by choice lol - I make a deal with myself every morning, to get out of bed the minute I open my eyes..as long as it is after 5am. Then I get precious time to myself for anywhere up to a couple of hours before everyone gets up, including Noah. It is so priceless to enjoy a nice coffee in peace, or do a crossword, or make a nice hot breakfast, or catch up with email etc. Bed feels so nice too, but I find it nice to be awake and actually REMEMBER aving down time lol. Hate waking up and jumping straight into being a caregiver, without having the luxury of waking up properly first and grounding myself.
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shymmer

24-07-2009, 22:36

Quaver - I hope that isn't something that will recurr? Wow, that would have been so frightening. Well done to remain calm for J. :hugs:

Sands - so glad you came to an agreement regarding the dogs. Yippee!

Well, girls after Dh agreeing to Zarie (albeit without a great deal of enthusiasm) he has decided he still doesn't like it. So I gave him some more options of what was on my list - being the good wifey I am :laughing:, and we have a name! (providing he doesn't do a swifty on me again, but he does seem much happier with this choice) I'm very happy with it too!

Olympia.

I do need help with the nickname though. Don't like Olly. And my sisters name is Pia, so can't have that either (too confusing).
Any suggestions?
And Dh has said NO to Gem for the middle name, darn it. So I'm still looking for that.

sandralee

25-07-2009, 04:57

Sounds like a strong beautiful greek name shymmer - can't think of any nicknames except for Limpy though lol - it's the only few letters left that don't produce Olly or Pia. :D
I am quite liking Lily again at the moment....hmmm......
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sandralee

25-07-2009, 05:55

Shymmer another nickname could be lee-lee? (from the 'Li' part of her name) My sister's name is Leah and she has mostly been called lee-lee all her life. xx

quaver

25-07-2009, 13:42

hi everyone!
olympia:yelclap: way cute. i think le le would be a good nick name too. I am so hopless at deciding on names. Dh and i decided when we were on the way to the hospital!!

nan:hugs:how is it going?

well feeling better today. phew what a week. i have been on bedrest since wednesday. it sounds good but it has been pretty painful. Dh has been a saint or "cinderfella'' as i have been calling him. juggling james and working from home and me too! went out for a bit this morning to pick my mum up from the airport but i tired very quicky. hopefully by monday i will be fully up and running. i have never been that scared in my life and i am lucky that it is nothing long term or anything as terrible as it felt.
J has a new word. he runs around the house just before his bath yelling nudi! but he runs it all together and it comes out nudinudinudindi! it is hillarious.

AliyahBlake

25-07-2009, 15:14

Hi Girls!!! I hope everyone is well - we are still suffering the effects of this damn flu here. I am sooooooo sick of coughing I can tell you. Blake had to go to the GP to get his ears checked yesterday, and he still has the infection so is back on antibiotics. Poor little thing gets diarrhoea with them so we've had about 6 nappy changes today already (and it's almost 4pm). Hopefully his diarrhoea will settle down in the next day or so for the sake of his poor little red tooshie! Aliyah and Craig seem to have gotten much better.

Quaver - I'm glad you are recovering ok from your health scare the other day.....how frightening! :hugs:

Shymmer - Pity about your DH not liking the name Zarie, but Olympia is not bad..........very regal sounding!! Maybe a nickname for her could be "Lolly" or "Pippa"? Just a couple of suggestions, although you may not like them ;)

Lozie - best of luck with TTCing - I hope you get your little pink bundle!!

Well, I officially hate banks (I didn't like them before but now my bank has pi$$ed me off!!). Craig and I wanted to restructure our home loan now that our Sydney house is an investment property, and set it up so we could have the tenant's rent paying it off and have a separate savings account etc. We went through our mortgage broker (who we've been with for about 5 or 6 years) and she said it should all be plain sailing given that we've been paying well over our minimum repayments quite easily. We just wanted to increase it by $20 000 to pay off our car loan as well. Well, after about a month we found out yesterday it had been knocked back on the grounds that so many other families have been in our exact position and defaulted on the loan, so the bank didn't want to risk it!!!!:eek: :hair::banghead: This coming from a bank who said that on the other hand, they would lend us up to $600 000 to buy another house !!!???We can't believe that they won't restructure our existing loan and tack 20 grand on it, but they'd happily give us money to buy another house! We are flabbergasted! We don't think we are going to stay with that lot much longer, but are just wondering if all the other banks we go through will be the same. Ridiculous!

Anyway, that's my rant for the day. Catch you all later :wave:

sandralee

26-07-2009, 05:55

forgot to mention how that test went - it said a girl, and I rang the company to confirm lol. was so hard to tell though and I still am wondering! I had to put some wee into a container, then see if it had even turned slightly green at the 10min mark. for a girl it stays relatively the same or turns a yellow or orange shade. it has to be your first wee for the morning, and I would highly reommend waiting for a morning when your first wee is in NATURAL light. I woke at 5am and it was still dark, so muh harder to read the result, as you HAVE to do it at the 10min mark before it changes. ah well, will have to wait a bit longer lol. how are you going with testing Nan? I really hope you are! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

RoarsomeMum

26-07-2009, 07:12

:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: everyone.. I am so useless at Keeping up to date! (thou, I read here often!)

NAN!!! Will be crossing it all for you!! hope its a BFP!

Lozie.. Oh Hon.. Know the feeling, and do whatever you feel is right..

Quaver.. Owwwwchie, Ow, Ow, OW!!!!!! I have had ONE ep in my life of that stupid C sounding condition, and freaking OATH I thought I was having a heartattack! Was so scary, and I had a few panic attacks after it, cause i was petrified I would drop dead at any minute.. Pain.. Oh, the pain.. Thinking of u!!!!!!

Sands, I hate those tests! but have heard 3 rights and 3 wrongs from people who did them... screw any test, my radar (and I am GOOD) predicts PINK! (and an abundance of love!)

Well, we are not getting any luckier on the BFP stage, so we are SAVING! I am wanting a cycle of ICSI if we have no got preg in another 12 months. :fingerscrossed: we get preg naturally and have our first HOLIDAY as a family in 16 years!

Love ya's all, hope life and bubba's shine today! xxx

sandralee

26-07-2009, 08:08

Yes, ahem, I am taking it with a grain of salt so I am no better off for spending that $90 LOL! A friend of mine had troubles (I like to all it divine delays, cos all babies come into our lives when & if they are meant to, it's all down to timing - thats my belief anyway) conceiving each of her 4 boys - so she tried drinking raspberry leaf tea JUST until she conceived and it worked every time. She now has a house full of rugrats lol. There is also a fertility herb place here (well on the gold coast) called sharkeys, maybe they have a website with herb info, or by googling you may find out what other people have experienced by reading forums etc. Does Chris take zinc? Would be so nice for you to get the BFP you are so very patiently waiting for!
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shymmer

26-07-2009, 10:30

Oooh Sands . . . .PIIIINNKKKKK!!!?!?!?!?! Honestly, even when a sonographer tells you it's a girl, you have this little seed of doubt and prepare yourself that they just might be wrong . . . . I hope it's right - another 10weeks and you can ask to see it for youself!

Thanks for the nickname ideas, hey are really good. Liking Lolly atm- which would be quite apt considering the amount of sugar I've eaten this pregnancy. That nursery Rhyme - What are little girls made of ; sugar and spice and all things nice . . . .yep, pretty much litteral I reckon!! :laughing:

AB - that's so frustrating about the bank. Doesn't make sense, does it? Hope your household is ridding itself of germs! Get some Glen 20 and start disinfecting! I swear it helps knock off any residual germs floating around. I think, once you've had the cold/flu for a while - time to get it out of the house! (which is exactly something I need to do today!! thanks for reminding me! :D)

So I've decided the only person (besides cyber friends ;)) I'm telling about bubs name is my mum (gotta get feedback from at least one trusted family member) She likes it. I usually tell my two sisters as I trust thier judgement too, but think I might keep it as a surprise - I think they will like it.

Well, Dh was a champ last night. DD kept waking. And waking. And waking. She has a cold, so it might be from that- but he was in her room most of the night with her - so I got some sleep. Hoping it doesn't keep up, b/c I'll be on duty now the weekend is over . . .

Enjoy your Sunday ladies - it's a beautiful day in Bris! Gonna take DD to the park once Dh gets back from diong some work on an investment property - yes . .we are back to that! Different house, not as much work . . . but he is gone most of the weekend again. Doesn't look like we will get our 'babymoon' up at the coast now. Might aim to go during summer and take mum/babysitter or something. Not as private of course - but it will give me my time on the beach at least - not to mention severe motivation to fit back into my bikini!! (if I escape without stretchmarks again!)

RoarsomeMum

26-07-2009, 14:37

I totally FOrgot to say LOVE the name Shummer! :) Tis bewdiful! (lolli was my mum's nicname!)

Yep Sands, Chris takes Zinc, VitC, Seahorse powder, normal Preconcieve Vit's.

I take EPO, asprin, Normal preconcieve wear moonstone 24/7 (fertility rock) and we are both on chinese med's and accupuncture and use preseed! Oh, and of course OPK's and charting and Mucus and all that Jazz!

we are beyond Trying! :thumbsup: Nice to have a fall back plan in place thou, has made me way less stressed (which :fingerscrossed: does the trick!)

RoarsomeMum

27-07-2009, 10:51

Guys.. Kinda got to have a vent and a cry.. that I can't do properly on FB, thou, I shoved a few Barb's in I am sure..

Family life sux for us ATM.. Mum is in a home In Wonni and we have no bloody car so I can't visit.. :( there IS no f**cking transport from here to there.. no train/bus, anything.. and it will be ages till we get the money for a car, even Using the fertility money.. and TBH, my relationship with mum is complicated anyway.. we barely visited B4.. I am not sure what the heck my role is other than "black sheep"..

could always count on MIL.. who, I had a minor argument with in March, and she has not contacted us again since (lives 10 mins away, and we see her ALL the time up the street and all that jazz.. small town) - when we see her, she walks away... :confused::crying: Chris works with his Aunty.. and she say's we are stopping her from seeing Roar.. Are NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! she wont answer our calls, I feel sooo bloody bad for Chris.. She actually said, openly, the last time we saw her, that it should have been Us, not Chris's Brother, who had the stillbirth.. told us we did not deserve to be parents.. It's beyond hurtful.. I feel like we have no family anymore.. and Chris and I are struggling.. with no-one.. It just hurts so much.

Kizmet

27-07-2009, 11:10

Em :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:

Nan

27-07-2009, 12:58

Ahem - Oh mate! I feel for you, I really do. You're doing it so tough at the moment. That sucks that your MIL is being such a pain. It IS hard at the best of time, let alone with no family support. All I can offer is that we'll support you! I know you can't do the practicalities in cyberspace, but you can always chat to us, sweets. Its not as good as the real deal I know, but you'll always get love here!! :hugs:

shymmer - I like Lolly as a nickname, too! Wow, I can't believe you only have a couple of months to go!

Hey kizmet! :wave:

Bed feels so nice too, but I find it nice to be awake and actually REMEMBER aving down time lol. Hate waking up and jumping straight into being a caregiver, without having the luxury of waking up properly first and grounding myself.
Sands, this makes so much sense, but I don't know how you do it!! I just can't get out of bed in the mornings! I'm terrible. I only get out once Shane has left for work because the kids need an adult awake! Then I get straight into it as you say. Some days I'll take Eden for a wee, then go back to bed and let her play in her room or watch TV. I guess my downtime is at night though.

Em - "Nudi"!! I like it! So cute!

Thanks those who asked how I'm doing. Still no AF. I'm 17 or 18 days over (lost count!) and anywhere from there up to 21days post ovulation, but did another test Saturday and got another :bfn: so that makes 3 now. No idea what is going on. Some people in the TTC section have said it takes up to 6-7 weeks preggers to get a :bfp: sometimes and I'd only be almost 3 if I am. Man, if I have to wait another month to find out.....so frustrating waiting! Maybe AF will show up in a few days? Not knowing is a killer! :crying: I'm still leaing towards no though. Other than tiredness in the arvos no other symptoms.

quaver

27-07-2009, 13:10

ahem- :hugs::hugs:
Family, cant live with them, cant live without them. sometimes family politics can be so terrible. I am sorry that you are going through a tough time. but saying you dont deserve to be parents:banghead: and the stillbirth comment? that is beyond horrible. does she know what she is saying??? wrong. no body deserves that.

nan- I thought you would have known either way by now? are you stressed- eating properly? it must be a very frustrating wait for you. hmmm?

shymmer- not talking to you if you can still be able to wear a bikini. my stupid fat stomach with stupid stretch marks is so jelous.

shymmer

27-07-2009, 16:35

Oh Ahem - that is so rediculous isn't it? Why do family have to behave so childishly. And seriously that comment was so incredibly inapropriate and offensive. I interpret that to mean there is jealousy afoot. You can mad at someone, but to say that goes a bit deeper. Do you have close friends nearby? Sometimes, friends are better family than family. :hugs: I'm sorry that you both feel so alone. You've had a very stressful year and support is important. But as I'm sure you know - the support you and Chris give each other is the most important thing. Nurture that, and you will feel strong and independant.

Hey Kiz! - Lurking are you?? How are you going???

I see some of you congratulated Kittylou on her pregnancy on FB! Isn't it wonderful news! I'm so happy for her!

Well, I have another cold - or is it my old one that has not really gone, come back to haunt me some more? It's making me so tired and eyes ache. I'm gargling anticeptic mouthwash - devouring Vit C - disinfecting the house . . . please go away cold!!!

Quaver - You gave me a giggle! I have probably jinxed myself now and will get stretchies this time! . .I'm going to smother myself in Bio-oil again right now!!!!!

RoarsomeMum

27-07-2009, 18:12

thanks guys, I needed those hugs and the support. :hugs::hugs::hugs: right back at you all.. talk soon.

Nan, :fingerscrossed: 4 u! (was thinking it B4 but forgot to type it!)

sandralee

28-07-2009, 12:13

Oh Em, we can't choose our family - and sometimes we can have a greater relationship with complete strangers or friends we make along the way in life. I wish some wise old person had sat me down when I was young and told me that I didn't have to LIKE all my family just because I was born into that 'circle' of people. I was raised to believe that 'family comes first' no matter what - yet I find that belief system only gels with me for SOME of them lol. It doesn't just automatically extend to ALL of them. It can sting at first when they can treat you like crap, but it is possible to rise above it and not buy into the negativity too much. To be honest, you can have far more enjoyable and loving relationships with people OUTSIDE your traditional 'family', people who feel like kindred spirits and who 'feel like you imagined a family relationship to be' - they are your 'spirit family.' Please don't take it personally, we can have some right biatches as family members who basically insult you to hurt you and pull you down to their miserable level. Don't succumb to it.. rise above it and heal...and spend your time and energy on those who make you feel happy and loved. It is kind of like putting all your ideas of what you THOUGHT a family should be like in a recycle bin, and creating new healthy ones. If anyone ever makes a horrible comment to you like that again (like wishing dear little ROar had been the stillbirth) - my GOD don't take that into your psyche at all!! THe person who said that to you probably has an aura of black gooey SLUDGE and I would look them in the eye and say something like "that is the meanest most disgusting comment I have ever heard - you must have such an angry horrible heart to even THINK of saying something like that, and I pity you." So, in a nutshell, look at the loving supportive people you have in your life, and look at THEM like they are your family - you don't need trash bringing you down. We have one crack at this life, in this body, with this personality, and we all deserve to seek and follow joy - just like cleaning your house of any junk, look at toxic people the same way - you have every right to be happy and b***gger ANYONE who tries to give you grief instead. You deserve much better!!!!!! It does hurt initially though to feel let down or 'attacked' by our 'clan.. then we can either ACCEPT that crap or DISCARD it. Life is way too short! Lots of love and angels to give you strength to part with anything that brings you down beautiful xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

AliyahBlake

28-07-2009, 12:31

Hey Girls!

Ahhhhh so tired today but so glad to be back working. I did an evening shift last night (4 pm til 11 pm) and it was so busy but I really enjoyed it. I remember when I used to hate nursing after those types of shifts but I think 3 years out of the hospitals has renewed my nursing passion......I hope it lasts though, as I have sensed the morale at the hospital is not at all good. I'll just keep my happy attitude and hope it rubs off on everyone I work with! I looked after a room with 6 old blokes in it, and had so much fun as they were all quite jovial and had a good sense of humour.......I much prefer looking after men for that reason - most of them just love a good laugh! For some reason it's not the same looking after women.

Our horrible flu bugs seem to be leaving us, slowly but surely. I still have an irritating cough at night, as do the kids, but it all seems to be settling down (touch wood!).

Em - :hugs: you poor thing........what you're going through with your family at the moment sounds terrible. And what a disgusting thing for your MIL to say.......that's too upsetting for words.....such a low human being for wishing stillbirth on anyone :mad:
And to say you are bad parents??? You only have to look at Roar to see she is happy and loved........don't you ever doubt yourselves Em and Chris - you ARE fabulous parents!!!!

Nan - wonder what's going on with your body???? Very strange. Have you had blood tests ? (Can't remember if you said you had or not!) I hope it turns out to be a :bfp: and you HCG levels are just taking a while to show up. It happens - a friend of mine was 15 weeks pregnant before hers showed up on a wee stick test!!

Hey Kiz - nice to see you lurking here still :D

Sands - I soooooo am praying for a girl for you - sending loads of pink angel dust in your direction. I hope your test was RIGHT!!!!!!

Oh, and I just read what you said to Em, Sands................AMEN!!!!

Moops

28-07-2009, 16:26

Hi lovelies!

We've been up North for DH's Sisters wedding, I missed you guys! Love it when there is heaps of chatting in here!

Hope everyone is well, morning sickness has well and truly kicked in here now - yuck! I thought I was going to get away with just a bit of it but it seems to have really stepped up the last couple of days. Sands, when I get back from Italy I will be 13 weeks so it is still ok to have the scan then, although I think I will go to the early pregnancy unit before I go just to make sure everything is ok. I can't believe you're having a girl!!!!!!! I hope it is right, I'm so excited for you!!!! DH and I were talking the other day and I'm not sure we are going to find out the sex. I obviously really want a girl and maybe I might be disappointed if I found out it was a boy, but you won't care if you've just given birth would you? Arghhh I don't know, knowing me I'll find out, the suspense will kill me!

Congrats Kittylou! I commented on fb but wanted to say it here as well! :yelclap:

Em - I hear ya hun on difficult family members, I think I have the worst family life ever! lol. I hardly speak to my Dad and the rest of my family anymore, after years and years of them making me feel like crap I decided that I was over it, didn't deserve it and needed to look after myself and my own family. As for that comment about the still birth, what kind of person says something like that??? I know it is hard but just try and ignore them, I know it must be difficult not being able to see your Mum :hugs:

AB - Sounds like you are happy at your new job! Does that mean you have the day to yourself after you've done a nightshift? That would be alright!!

Shymmer - I like the name Olympia (or has it changed?! lol) but I'm having the same problem with the nicknames, why do you have to shorten names! I can't believe you're nearly due!!!! How exciting!

Well sorry If I've missed someone but I have to run, Luca is wrecking the house. I have to say quickly that he seems to have grown up a lot whilst we were away. I think playing with older kids has helped him, he hasn't been so violent and is talking better and trying to say more so that is encouraging! xxx

sandralee

28-07-2009, 18:41

haha Mel, I am not banking on those test results lol!!!!!! not sure why I even bought it, cos I don't believe it 100%. I keep adding to the baby name list, we have now added Lucy & Scarlet to the girls list & Wyatt to the boy list. I don't want anything too complicated cos their names only get shortened anyway lol. I liked Evangeline before we found out Noah was a boy but my SIL ended up taking that last year - she just gets called Evie.
Love to everyone, gotta get my laptop set up in bed where it's comfy! It's currently in the kitchen lol xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Nan

28-07-2009, 21:19

THe person who said that to you probably has an aura of black gooey SLUDGE and I would look them in the eye and say something like "that is the meanest most disgusting comment I have ever heard - you must have such an angry horrible heart to even THINK of saying something like that, and I pity you."
YEAH!!!!!! :thumbsup: Good stuff! :p

Nan - wonder what's going on with your body???? Very strange. Have you had blood tests ? (Can't remember if you said you had or not!) I hope it turns out to be a :bfp: and you HCG levels are just taking a while to show up. It happens - a friend of mine was 15 weeks pregnant before hers showed up on a wee stick test!!

Nope, no blood tests. If AF doesn't show up in the next fortnight, I'll test again and if -ve I'll get blood taken. If that's -ve then I'll make an appointment with my hormone specialist. Hoping it doesn't come to that.

DH and I were talking the other day and I'm not sure we are going to find out the sex. I obviously really want a girl and maybe I might be disappointed if I found out it was a boy, but you won't care if you've just given birth would you? Arghhh I don't know, knowing me I'll find out, the suspense will kill me!
That's exactly why I didn't find out with Caleb, Moops! With Eden I didn't care and the surprise was very novel after 3 hours of bloody pushing her out!!! :laughing: With Caleb I really wanted a boy (not that I told anyone.....even Shane!) so I didn't want to find out in case I was disappointed. Next time (maybe this time!) I want to find out, but I don't think Shane will, but having both genders I don't really see any need to.

I didn't know kittylou was preggers........or did I?? I STILL forget a couple of people's names!!!!! How dodgy is that. How exciting!!!!

Moops

29-07-2009, 04:26

Ok I'm 8 weeks today and I have a ridiculously big bump! Is this normal??!:eek: People are asking me if I'm pregnant, sure I've had one too many desserts but surely it isn't all fat!? At this rate I won't be able to keep it a secret for much longer! lol!

Feeling really gross atm, finding it hard to take Luca out everyday and entertain him when I'm feeling sick! Hope this doesn't last for long!

Nan I thought of you the other night. DH said I should enjoy this pg as it is my last one! I know I'm only 8 weeks into this one but I didn't think that we had decided to stop at 2, I'm only 30 after all. I got so mad that he had just made this decision without even discussing it with me! Men!! Hopefully your cycle gets on track soon or you get your bfp! Sounds very strange if you are not pg, I would be going to the Dr just to make sure! xx

shymmer

29-07-2009, 11:54

I actually wanted to know the gender because I didn't want to feel any dissapointment at the time of birth - if I didn't get the gender I 'wanted'. For me, if I was getting my heart, even secretly, set on one gender, it was important that I find out at 20wks so I could adjust and develop a realtionship with the gender I was having. I was afraid if that adjustment took me a few days . . . I didn't want bub to be here already! Not that I wouldn't love the child I had of course, but if you really want one gender - it can take a bit to let go of the imagined relationship with that gender and start it with the baby you got.
That was my thought anyway.

Moops - I'd say your 'bump' is just bloating at the moment. It will go down a bit after the first tri and then you will develop real baby-bump. That's what happened to me both times, but the bloating was much more noticeable the second time.

nan - you must be going insane waiting to see why no Af yet! Sending you baby dust!

Well, Xav and I both have horrible colds. Neither of us can sleep and I'm so tired! Added to my already uncomfortable body - makes for a miserable night!
I've decided to screen all visitors from now on - anyone with a slight sniffle will be asked not to come! I've had a cold on/off for weeks now and I am absolutely sick of it! It's one of the things I really dislike about pregancy - if you get sick you can't get rid of it! Grrrrrrr.

quaver

29-07-2009, 19:52

Ab-good stuff-re work. I hope it is rewarding for you.:) nurses are special people! good to hear that the lurgys are leaving your house. hope they stay goooone!

Em- how is the family going?

moops- booo re morning sickness. oh goodness it must suck. :hugs: with a busy little boy too!!!
:rolleyes:men! they really cant see past their nose. They live in the now. which i wish i could do more often i think.

sands- i think the name lucy is great!

nan- hear is hoping that the next two weeks fly by for you!

shymmer- i am with you- i think i would want to know at 20 weeks.

DH was very clear that he did not want to find out with J. and i could not keep it from him so we didnt find out. i had to have a scan at 35 weeks for a family condition. i found out then! the ultrasound lady thought i was nuts for waiting that long but not quite long enough! we did not tell anyone that we found out though. i knew i was having a boy the whole time though and i loved having that little secret from everyone else.
hope xav feels better soon and you get some sleep! screen for sure!!!

feeling quiet tired. chest is a heap better but it is absolutley exhausting me. j has more energy than every and i am still sleeping next to him. grr. anyway i have given in to it so i can sleep for now. i have booked him in for occasional care for two hours tomorrow morning for a break. i am so excited about having a break to rest i probably wont be able to. maybe i could shop instead....he he. i think i need these breaks to be a better mummy.

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Nan

30-07-2009, 16:44

Hellooo poppets! :p
Well, no AF......still. 21 days late!!!!!!! Its kinda sad really, but at least its only a week & a half or so and I'll know what's going on. I've already wasted $20 on HPTs so I'm not buying/doing any more until next weekend. I'll do it Friday and another on the w/e (if I need to) and get a blood test Monday. I feel absolutely knackered in the afternoons.....like I'm literally going to pass out from sleep deprivation, so if I'm not pg something is seriously hormonally screwed! :crying: I've also had a bit of heartburn and feeling bleh most days. I've had IBS a few years back, so it could also be that rearing its ugly head again. Please, no!

Nan I thought of you the other night. DH said I should enjoy this pg as it is my last one! ....... I got so mad that he had just made this decision without even discussing it with me!
Yeah, its pretty insensitive isn't it?! I guess he actually thought to tell you to savour the moment though, so that's something. Shane didn't get it when I told him I should have savoured each day with Caleb..........because they don't have to carry the babies. They don't know how precious it is and how you have to mentally get over these things!

For me, if I was getting my heart, even secretly, set on one gender, it was important that I find out at 20wks so I could adjust and develop a realtionship with the gender I was having. I was afraid if that adjustment took me a few days . . . I didn't want bub to be here already! Not that I wouldn't love the child I had of course, but if you really want one gender - it can take a bit to let go of the imagined relationship with that gender and start it with the baby you got.
That's actually a really good point. I guess I knew that I wouldn't care at birth because I'd already been through it before. I just LOVED Eden instantly and knew I'd love the next bub instantly too. I guess its different for everyone, hey?
Well, Caleb is getting some more teeth and is miserable today........he's still sleeping!! I'm gonna go wake him otherwise he'll never go to bed in 2 hours!! lol I want some cuddles, too. He is the cuddliest kid. He's just started saying "mummy cuddle" and putting his arms up. SOOOOO cute! :bee:

Can't remember who asked but yes, I am going a bit insane with this waiting!

Lozie

30-07-2009, 18:00

Helloo ladynesses! I love making up words LOL
Hope every one is good!

Em that completely sux!!! I can so understand you being upset what a thing to say and Sand :iagree: 110%!! And you know Em if ya ever need a sunny change queensland is very beautiful!!! :D

Moops i am soo not envying ur m/s that sucks as well!!! I can imagin gross!!! And as for ur dh what a poohead it's not fair when they say things like that just assume that this is it! My Dh tried it once after ds2 but i told him to be careful cause if i want another you dont necessarily have to know whats going on till i shove a :bfp: in front of his face!:devil: thats how we got Balin hehe

Nan i really hope you find out whats going on soon i had the same sort of thing happen a few months back and turned out i had a cyst that burst on one of my ovaries.... but crossing fingers and toes that u get a bfp soon !!!

Shymmer i love Lolli as a nickname so cute !!! And i can totally understand u wanting to know the sex i have been the same and by far my gender disapointment was the worst with balin i cryed for days that he was a boy and told Dh and the U/S man they were full of crap LOL yes i was quite upset but now at least he has pretty hair i have been braiding it lately he loves it :D

And onto me! Yay!! well not much ttc going on I'm trying to chart my CM and temps but i am not very successful i suck at this stuff and on the up side Dh and i are eating a highly acidic diet so hopefull it will go to my Cm and kill off the boy spermies LOL And trying to figure out when i ovulate cause i never pay attention to that sorta stuff LOL so we are doing great hahaha I got a kitten the other day he is a Manx so cute and fluffy, Ds1 named him Blue ... Balin loves him but tries to play too rough with him so has had more than a few scratches i try to tell him but ah kids will be kids LOL

Well thinking thats enough from me hugs and love to all :goodvibes:

sandralee

01-08-2009, 13:39

Moopsy bloating is normal, and more noticeable with consecutive pregnancies. Also, your uterus is growing and so is a placenta - apparently in week 12 (where I am up to) the placenta is fully formed and the uterus is the size of a cantaloupe lol! I feel like I have fluid already too, so will ask my OB if there are any tablets afe to take during pg. I thought I could at least have ONE pg without major fluid retention. We are finding out the sex but not telling anyone - = I will let you girls know on here, but nothing to be said on FB. Our families can wait lol! Plus I need time to adjust if it's a boy. I really wanted Ands to be a boy, so he could be a protective older brother.. then I just assumed I'd have a girl cos I wanted one lol. Sonographer didn't help at 12wk scan when she told me she didn't see a penis... then at 18wk scan I almost keeled over when the lady told me congrats on a bouncing baby boy! Took me two days, then I was in love with him being a boy. Really not sure how I will go if it is a boy this time, cos it's my last pg - even though Steve asked me last week if I wanted one more??!! He is really scared about my reaction when we find out the sex, such a sweetie cos he hates seeing me sad. Maybe we will even get a hint of the sex at our scan in 10days, as it will be in 4d, and apparently the sex organs are formed by week 12. Just have to wait and see I guess!
Gotta go and get motivated, I have been like a slob all day, which is the opposite to how I usually am of a day, motoring around getting stuff done. Love to all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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shymmer

02-08-2009, 01:39

Hey girls,

Well I'm pulling a night shift . . Xav is napping atm, but I'm expecting her up any moment now - for the rest of the night. She is very tired lately, our colds are lingering and she has cut four teeth in the last weeks (not molars yet). Goes on and off food. We are so out of routine it isn't funny really.
No really. it isn't.
It take me hours to get to sleep, no matter how tired I am. My nose blocks and I can't for the life of me get comfy. Bring on September so I can atleast have my body back!

OK, wont bore with too much whinging.

Had a scan on Friday. Placenta is high and not in the c-sec scar so that is all geat. Bub looking good too - and still 'definately' a girl! The student sonographer scared me for a moment - she said "there is some sort of appendage". I was like :eek:. So I asked her what did she mean? it IS a girl isn't it?? And she said ' oh, I dont know, I'll have a look if you like.'
The appendage she was referrig to was a limb (arm or leg). I'm thinkng - jeez girl, watch your terminology!
A lady in the Sep Due thread just got a shock . . . was told at her scan she was having a girl . . .but had a BOY! (he was early) So I'm very glad I got a 'definate girl' response from the lead sonographer at the scan. He pointed it all out too. Phew!

Lozie - how sweet to have a kitty! Its great to teach the kids to be gentle with animals -providing the animal can handle the initial roughness until it sinks in. Xav is quite good with our dogs, but sometimes takes into her head to give them a whack for no reason! Poor dogs.

ok, think sleeping beauty is up. Catch you later blossoms!

Moops

02-08-2009, 05:45

Hey Shymmer

How you doing? :hugs: Don't envy you doing the night shift at all, how's it going? I get very crabby and depressed if I don't get my sleep!

I've had the most boring day ever today, I didn't even leave the house! I've been feeling so sick that I have absolutely no energy to do anything. Poor Luca was so bored as well but DH took him to the park in the afternoon. I can't wait for 12 weeks to come around!! I'm 9 on Tuesday so getting there :fingerscrossed:.

We are going to Italy in 3 weeks and this morning all I could think about was the food!! I love being pg there, I pig out so much! Even simple dishes like tomato pasta taste divine there! Drool! We ate dinner at 6 ish now it's 9.30pm and i've just had 3 pieces of toast with honey, I can't stop eating!! :eek:

Well my bump is very noticeable now, I will have to take a pic for you. I saw the midwife yesterday and she said you can show more in your second pregnancy and it isn't like I had rock hard abs after Luca!!

Sands, good luck with your scan! I wouldn't really believe what they say about the sex at this stage though, as you know from Noah! I believe Em was told Roar was a boy at that time as well. Shymmer, I can't believe she said she saw an appendage - like der!!! That must be such a shock to get a different sex to what you were told!

I can see both sides to finding out or not finding out the sex, I know I probably won't be able to hold out till the birth so will find out at 22 weeks - I think!

Well nothing much happening here, I've just noticed Em has changed her name again! How will I keep up??! xxxx

Nan

02-08-2009, 19:54

Oh shymmer - you HAVE to do something hon. Trust me. If you have to get up to 2 kids on 2 totally different routines, you are going to die. :( It's not fun. Can you just put Xav in her cot for the night at what you think is a reasonable hour and leave her there until the morning? Would she cry a lot? Would that be a bad thing? Sorry for all the questions, but you have to have her sorted before this baby comes or you'll find it so hard to cope. I'm thinking of you. :hugs:

Moops - A 9 week bump is ok. I wouldn't be worried. I hope you feel well soon. MS is so awful.

Roarsomemum - Nice name Em!! Love it!

Lozie - Its likely to be something like a cyst. I've had lots of hormone issues in the past and do have ovarian cysts, but I've been pretty regular since going on HRT, so this is just plain weird!!

STILL no AF. I worked out today I haven't had a period for 47 days!! :(That's since the last day of my last one. If I am pg...which I still think no, but hope yes!....I'd only be 3.5 weeks. WTH is going on?? :hissy:

shymmer

02-08-2009, 22:16

I know Nan. With just DD it's not so bad, but with a baby too and being sleep deprived from that etc, I could go insane!! I do think Xav only switches her sleep around when she has something worng though - cold/teething/ill. When nothing is bothering her she's fine to sleep overnight.
But I do have a back up plan - if it all gets too hard for me, I will go stay with my mum for a while to get some help. My family will love that as they don't get to see Xav that much and with a new baby to cuddle as well - I'll be lucky to see either of my children much!! My mum babysits my neice through the week, so X can go with her and play all day - thus sleep at night. It will get her back on track. (has several times before)

So do you think you might be 3.5 weeks preg from ovulation? Meaning by 'normal' standards, you'd be 5.5wks (if you had Af two weeks prior to ov'ing which they usually take the gestation from)
hmmmm. I hope you get an answer soon.

quaver

03-08-2009, 12:47

Roarsome- love the new name. But you are intent on confusing me! How is the fam going?

shymmer- having some time out and xav getting to see family sounds like a top idea. gotta love grandparents!!! but what is with that ultra sound lady! apendage! what a bad choice of words. i did not realise that mistakes in recognising the sex happen that often.

nan-:no: you poor thing. i hope everything is ok and you get some answers soon.

moops- have a gelato for me! I am so jelous of you going to italy!!! It is time that i go back. do you stay with family over there? our next overseas trip will be London 2012. fingers crossed! :hugs:about the morning sickenss.

sands- good luck with the scan. and thanks for the advice re J''s rash. he is not so happy today. he had a high temp yesterday but nothing else until this morning when i changed him, he was covered. it looks like a nappy rash all over his body. the dr says it will only last a couple of days.

Ah hate MONDAYS!!! I must make the weekend not as enjoyable as i miss Dh when he goes back. I know i am a wimp! Had dinner out with the girls on sat night. 3 of us have been close since high school. it was good but i am finding it a bit hard being the only mum. they are not interested in kids at all yet. but it is still good to get a chance to talk about something else! But hec it gets on my nerves when one of them keeps complaining how tired she is!!! ya gotta keep smiling.

Nan

03-08-2009, 16:22

Well, waiting is over........coz...........

:bfp: :bfp: I got a BFP!!!!!!!!! :bfp: :bfp:

:eek:

:smiliedance:

POAS again this arvo and there's DEFINITELY 2 lines! Faint at first but darker now. OMG!!!!!!

Be back later!!! Ooooooh, SO excited! ......and FREAKED.......but mostly excited! WOOHOO!!!! lol

P.S. SSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! It's a secret!

quaver

03-08-2009, 17:00

NAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!YAY YAY Woop woop!!!!!:smiliedance:
i got so excited for you when i read your post dh did not know what i was on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:flowerz::smiliedance::smiliedance:
congratulations! sneaky little bub wanting all that suspense......

RoarsomeMum

03-08-2009, 17:24

NAN!!!! :yelclap::smiliedance: Awesome Hon!!!!!! I am so happy for you guys!!!! - send some of your magical baby dust our way gals! You guys are fertility godesses!!! Tis Awesome!

And you know Em if ya ever need a sunny change queensland is very beautiful!!! :D
And onto me! Yay!! well not much ttc going on I'm trying to chart my CM and temps but i am
Well thinking thats enough from me hugs and love to all :goodvibes:

Aww! Thanks hon, means alot. GOOD LUCK TTC! (Hope we are a draw in the conception race!) - Bluey pics were soooo cute!!

Sands, Moops is right, we were told Roar was a boy at 13. 4 weeks and 14.6 weeks (she had the extra scans cause she had the woeful DS Score on the NF test) 20 weeks, they were 99.9% sure she was a girl (oh and the 2 scans were 4D) - can't wait to see the pics! _ hope little bubba pink is treating you well!

Oh Moops!!!! :hugs: for teh M/S!!!!! and for the terrible pre-2's.. Soooooooooooo jealous of your Italian Food extravagansa!!!!! Making me more hungry than Nat's FB pic's!

SKYHUMMER!!!!! PMSL at the "appendage"!!!! - glad your little gal is still a little gal! How ya feeling?! Great news on bubs position! Not so great on the scedules.. Like Nan said.. You'll Die matey.. BIG HUGS!

Em', 100% agree, Mondays BLOW! - How are teh cakes going? How is Master J?

Thanks on the name change complimets! (thought Skyhummer might like the Emu! lmao) - I feel like a crazy bird on the edge!! cause, we are cycling Clomid this month, and if this is O hormones, then, I reckon I was not O'ing, have NEVER felt so freaky.. Laugh/cry/scream in a matter of minutes! - scary!

Family - well, have arranged to visit Mum next Wed! lovely mate lending their car. Have managed to catch up with my Bro and have a good chat, so feel better connected.

Chris's side, we simply don't speak to, and they don't contact us, so we are letting sleeping dogs lie, not taking the BS on board, and becoming the strongest family unit we can (me Roar and Chris) to feel like we will be fine without them. Hurts me to think they could turn their back on him thou, and imagine it rips him apart. But he soldiers on, Roar is really lucky to have him as a dad.

You guys beyond TOTALLY ROCK in the support dept.. will never forget it, and hope to be able to reciprocate it. xxxx

Man, I cap on!!!!!! Oh, and Chux magic erasor not working on couch yet :( (more elbow grease needed I reckon!)

Love ya's all!

Moops

03-08-2009, 19:32

NAN! OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OM G!

I knew it!!!!!!

So happy for you hun! How weird that it took so long to come up though! How did Shane react?? Yay!!!

I came on here to have a big whinge about Luca but thankfully you are all spared because of Nan's good news, now I'm in a better mood!

Might be back later :laughing:! xxx

shymmer

04-08-2009, 02:52

Hello blossoms,

YAYYYYY NAN!!!! How wonderful for you! What a lovely outcome of all these weeks of wondering!!! H & H 9mths for you!!

Roarsomemum - yep, love your emu- it's very 'edgy' looking! I'm glad you and Chris are finding so much love and support with each other. That will get you through anything! And Roar will be such a strong little person from the briliant example her parents are giving her! Well, done lovely lady!
I am sending you all my surplus babydust:babydust2: . . . may it give you another devine being to add to your fabulous family!

Quaver- glad you had a 'kind of' nice night out with the girls. lol. Life certainly does change once you have kids huh? All those things you used to worry about that are just so not important anymore! But it's kind of like escapism . . . nice to talk airy-fairy stuff for a while!

Moops - Luca giving you a hard time huh? Xav and I had a 'fight' the other night. She woudln't let me change her dirty nappy and I was getting so fed up. So I whipped a nappy on her and dumped her in the cot and closed the door (light was on). I just needed a few minutes to calm down. Anyway, she spent about 10mins quietly in there with her dolls while I washed up. And then we were on speaking terms again. It's been a while since she's gotten the better of me - but it happens to everyone. So :hugs: to you.

Speaking of tanties . . . can you hear the one Xav is enjoying right now? This simply because I told her not to put the coke bottle lid in her mouth. :rolleyes: She goes and gets the empty coke bottles from the recycling bin in the laundry - opens it and drinks the skerrick of coke left in the bottom. lol

Had a Doc appoint today. The c-sec is tentatively booked in for 11th September (39wks) at Redlands! Woohooo! 5 weeks to go! Shhhhh, I'm not telling family!:D

Lozie

04-08-2009, 07:20

hellooo my pretties!!

Nan!! Congrats!!! Woot!! I was hoping it was what i said and i was wrong YAY!!! How does ur Dh feel?? so awesome hun!! :babydust2:

RoarsomeMum i meant it hun! Dont let other peoples issues get you down and stuff 'em i wonder how they would feel if you guys "disappeared" for a while ;)
but hugs and love to ya! and loving the new name and the Emu!! :yes: And good stuff u are going to see ur Ma' roar will love iti'm sure the boys always go mental at my mums LOL:babydust2:

Shym thats fantastic you have a date! i cannot wait to see pics i love looking at friends photos of babies, maybe i just love new babies hmmmm:goodvibes:

Moops hugs hun dont let the tanties get ya down ! if you did you would always been down yanno ! i have no magic cures for toddler tanties but i will say to an extent it does get better but i can only say to age 4 atm LOL i'm sure the teenage years are much harder!

Quaver hoping J's rash is better!

Sands GL with the scan ! Hoping ur baby dreams come true!!

And me well yesterday i figured out how to let Balin feed himself with out making a huge mess i gave him his cocoa pops in a cup! I know i thought how clever am i! Anyways he drank them good boy! and didnt spill much only on himself LOL he's getting to the stage where he wants to eat on his own but still has a littler trouble with spoons so gets pretty messy LOL
be back later Balin is painting things with pooo NOICE!!! catch ya Ladies!

Nan

04-08-2009, 14:14

Oh, I'm feelin' the love! Thanks girls! I'm really happy and feel ok after talking to Shane about it last night. I asked him if he was happy and he said he was. He said "Well I did say if it was meant to happen it would happen. I'm not excited, but I'm happy." Then he gave me a hug. So, I'm ok with that. :goodvibes: He was used to the idea of 2, so I'm sure he'll take a few months to adjust to the idea of 3.

Anyway, its very early days yet. Like I said, I ovulate very late in my cycle, so I'm only about 4 weeks. I think that's why the HPTs were negative.....not enough HCG. I'm keeping positive and keeping up with my hormones! I have to take them until I'm 12 weeks coz they can help bub 'stick' better apparently. I'm still having no real pg symptoms though! No sore boobs, no frequent toilet trips........just feel like I'm going to randomly fall asleep every now and then and also have felt a bit bleh, but no sickness or nausea yet.

Em - Emu! :laughing: Keep positive matey!! That's so great about going to see your mum! I hope everything goes well. I said a prayer today that you & Chris would be able to have another child. I get shocking de ja vu & also sometimes dream stuff before it happens, so if I get anything I'll let you know! hehe

Moops - Don't worry mate. Some days I scream so badly/loudly/violently at Eden that I don't even really like myself. :o Thankfully we have the good days to balance out the crappy ones. :hugs:

Lozie - Breakfast in a cup! Good one! Caleb is still unco too. He LOVES feeding himself but isn't very good at it. I'm trying to teach him to SLOW DOWN!!! But he shovels it in so fast half of it falls off the spoon!!!! :rolleyes:

quaver - Is J feeling better now?

shymmer - Cool! A date for you. How exciting!!! This pg has gone fast hasn't it? Well it seems to have from my end! :p Have you decided on a name 100%?

Anyway, the clothes aren't going to fold themselves, so I'd better go. Thanks for the wishes/kisses/hugs/dust/vibes/freak outs etc etc!!!!! Very much appreciated.

AliyahBlake

04-08-2009, 15:04

:yelclap::smiliedance: YAY NAN!!!!!! Congratulations hun......I'm so glad it turned out to be more than just silly hormones!!! I hope little bubba behaves itself now and you have a wonderful 9 months. Don't worry about the lack of symptoms - I found out early with both mine and didn't get any symptoms til 6 weeks - then they hit like a ton of bricks LOL!!

Em - love your new name and the Emu avatar!!!

Shymmer - how exciting knowing your c-section date - not far off now!! I hope your routines sort themselves out before then :hugs:

Moops - it sucks having m/s and a toddler huh? I had to deal with all that when I was pg with Blake (and Aliyah was well and truly into her terrible twos/threes by then!!) You'll get through it :hugs:

Lozie - how cool an idea is that with the cereal in a cup!!! Wish I'd thought of that......might steal your idea I think LOL!!

Well, just when I thought that the germs had left the building, a whole heap of new ones have muscled their way in!! Blake developed croup on Sunday night and had fevers up to 40 degrees all night and yesterday, so we had our 4th trip to the GP in as many weeks! His ear is still red so he's on another different lot of antibiotics. He had a better night last night and his fever has gone today so I hope he's finally on the mend - no daycare this week though. Then today, Aliyah complained of an earache before school - she's had a slight cold so I thought it could just be a bit of a blocked ear and she wanted to go to school so I sent her. At 1pm her teacher rang and said she was crying because of the pain in her ear and could I please come and get her. Poor little darlin' has been lying on the lounge all afternoon and she won't let me touch her ear as it hurts so much. We are off to the GP shortly (they know me quite well now LOL!!) so I guess she'll be home from school for the next couple of days. I just want all of this sickness business to be over!!!! I'm working shifts at the moment just to pay for medical and pharmacy bills!!!

Catch you all later!!!

quaver

04-08-2009, 19:27

AB- Glad little Blake is better. Oh Aliyah! Poor little thing. i cant believe you still have a sick household! be gone ear aches! You must be exhausted as well, with work too! i dont know how you do it:hugs:

Nan- glad your dh is happy. I am sure he will get excited in time. will you have a dating scan? since it was all a bit ?
J is not a happy chappy. His rash seemed to get worse today. He was spitting his water all down his shirt and i think it was because it made his skin cooler. the temp is making him cranky and i can go out anywhere as it is quite catching. but hopefully it will be better tomorrow :)

lozie mmm poo painting. he has just thought- how can i get mums attention. ewwww! (and thanks re rash)

shymmer- yep got it in one. the light talk is good but sometimes it is hard to get worked up about the same things that they do. I would never tell them but you cant help but become less self centred when you have kids. i dont mean that in a bad way, because i know i was the same. but you have less time to sweat the small stuff. iykwim.

roarsome- cakes are good. i am slowly getting more orders. I have my first wedding cake to do in october! eek! i was pleased with the pokemon cake that i did and the next one is a 3rd birthday in 2 weeks time. i am making a cake size cupcake! should be interesting. i have the baby and kids market coming up that i am having a display at, so hopefully i will get something from that. I am making a "in the night garden'' cake for it. pitty you are not in sydney as i cant eat it all myself!!! and roar would love that one!

hugs to one and all:flowerz:

Roxy76

05-08-2009, 13:08

hey girls!!!!!!! :wave:

i really should come back to posting here!!

Well....we have decided we are going to sell our house and have a rural seachange interstate!! very exciting and we are hoping a property we are currently looking at is THE ONE!!

And once we move there, we will start TTCing!! :smiliedance: So within the next year!!

I didn't realise how much I wanted another till FH and I discussed it and he said let's do it! And it made me realise that I DO want another child. I had convinced myself I was fine, as FH wasn't sure. His kids live with us full time and have for nearly 7 years. Their mum is in Sydney. So although him and I only have Maddi together, we do in fact have 3 kids. So many people forget this when they constantly ask..when is the next one? But with us moving, there will be more space as we will be building a new house..a whole new country lifestyle where we hope to become fully self-sustainable and it just feels right...plus will be good for Maddi to have a playmate to experience the whole farm country adventures growing up! Everything is happening and is SO EXCITING!! :thumbsup:

Our wedding is in late 2010 also, so I may be pregnant for that, but that doesn't bother me at all.

So just wanted to share all the happy news!! :ecomcity:

Moops

06-08-2009, 03:32

Moops - Luca giving you a hard time huh? Xav and I had a 'fight' the other night. She woudln't let me change her dirty nappy and I was getting so fed up. So I whipped a nappy on her and dumped her in the cot and closed the door (light was on). I just needed a few minutes to calm down. Anyway, she spent about 10mins quietly in there with her dolls while I washed up. And then we were on speaking terms again. It's been a while since she's gotten the better of me - but it happens to everyone. So :hugs: to you.

Lol I feel Luca and I fight all the time, is it too late to have pnd?! I think it is just because I'm feeling ill and have zero energy that he is really pushing my buttons. From the moment he wakes up, he's being naughty and deliberately doing things that he knows he's not allowed to do just to p!ss me off! Also freaking out about how I'm going to look after two kids when I just want to leave Luca at the bus stop?! :laughing:

Had a Doc appoint today. The c-sec is tentatively booked in for 11th September (39wks) at Redlands! Woohooo! 5 weeks to go! Shhhhh, I'm not telling family!

Yay how exciting!! I didn't realise you had a c/s with Xav, I reckon it would be cool to know the date. Although just clicked that it is 9/11??

LOL
be back later Balin is painting things with pooo NOICE!!! catch ya Ladies!

Ewww that is so gross Lozie, not looking forward to that at all! Nice to see you on here! x

Oh, I'm feelin' the love! Thanks girls! I'm really happy and feel ok after talking to Shane about it last night. I asked him if he was happy and he said he was. He said "Well I did say if it was meant to happen it would happen. I'm not excited, but I'm happy." Then he gave me a hug. So, I'm ok with that. He was used to the idea of 2, so I'm sure he'll take a few months to adjust to the idea of 3.

That is great news hun, I want Shane to be excited as well for you but I guess that will come later when things seem more real. Has it sunk in yet??!

Moops - Don't worry mate. Some days I scream so badly/loudly/violently at Eden that I don't even really like myself. :o Thankfully we have the good days to balance out the crappy ones.

I know that feeling Nan, I've been quite awful to Luca lately because I haven't been feeling well and I think he's picked up on that. Hopefully things will improve soon.

Lozie - Breakfast in a cup! Good one! Caleb is still unco too. He LOVES feeding himself but isn't very good at it. I'm trying to teach him to SLOW DOWN!!! But he shovels it in so fast half of it falls off the spoon!!!!

Luca is rubbish with feeding himself! He picks up the food with his hands and then puts it on the spoon!

Well, just when I thought that the germs had left the building, a whole heap of new ones have muscled their way in!! Blake developed croup on Sunday night and had fevers up to 40 degrees all night and yesterday, so we had our 4th trip to the GP in as many weeks! His ear is still red so he's on another different lot of antibiotics. He had a better night last night and his fever has gone today so I hope he's finally on the mend - no daycare this week though. Then today, Aliyah complained of an earache before school - she's had a slight cold so I thought it could just be a bit of a blocked ear and she wanted to go to school so I sent her. At 1pm her teacher rang and said she was crying because of the pain in her ear and could I please come and get her. Poor little darlin' has been lying on the lounge all afternoon and she won't let me touch her ear as it hurts so much. We are off to the GP shortly (they know me quite well now LOL!!) so I guess she'll be home from school for the next couple of days. I just want all of this sickness business to be over!!!! I'm working shifts at the moment just to pay for medical and pharmacy bills!!!

Catch you all later!!!

Sounds like germapalooza at your house at the moment AB! Hope everyone starts feeling better soon! xx

Well....we have decided we are going to sell our house and have a rural seachange interstate!! very exciting and we are hoping a property we are currently looking at is THE ONE!!

And once we move there, we will start TTCing!! :smiliedance: So within the next year!!

I didn't realise how much I wanted another till FH and I discussed it and he said let's do it! And it made me realise that I DO want another child. I had convinced myself I was fine, as FH wasn't sure. His kids live with us full time and have for nearly 7 years. Their mum is in Sydney. So although him and I only have Maddi together, we do in fact have 3 kids. So many people forget this when they constantly ask..when is the next one? But with us moving, there will be more space as we will be building a new house..a whole new country lifestyle where we hope to become fully self-sustainable and it just feels right...plus will be good for Maddi to have a playmate to experience the whole farm country adventures growing up! Everything is happening and is SO EXCITING!! :thumbsup:

Our wedding is in late 2010 also, so I may be pregnant for that, but that doesn't bother me at all.

So just wanted to share all the happy news!!

Hey Roxy! We've missed you!! Wow how exciting!!! I really admire people who want to change their lives and actually go for it!! Whereabouts are you moving to? Very exciting news about ttc as well!

Quaver - How is J's sleeping going? x

Well things are ok here, I was quite ill last night I had a really bad stomach ache with cramps so I was fearing the worst but just ended up on the loo all night :no: no discharge or bleeding so think everything is ok. My best mate has been vomitting all day and she's 22 weeks pg, I saw her yesterday so I hope I don't get it! She is lucky her FIL comes over to look after her Son if she gets ill, I'm buggered if I get sick!

I was freaking out yesterday because I had to go to the Hospital to get the results from my mole biopsy. I wanted to get the results sent to my GP but when I called they were acting all weird saying I had to come in after discussing it with their colleagues, so naturally I thought I had cancer! So I had to go to the Hospital and everything was fine! Talk about stressing you out!!

Sands - How u going love? Have you had your scan yet? Have you thought about if you're going to get a double buggy? Not sure if Luca will need one by then...hmmm confusing!

Anyway better go, hope everyone is well! xxxx

shymmer

06-08-2009, 09:08

Yeah, Moops, the whole 9/11 thing is a bit off putting, but I don't actually have a choice. That's the best date for baby, so there it is. I'm also a little bit annoyed that it's a Friday - it's good for DH (less days off work) I'm just hoping the weekend doesn't give my dad, in particular, the idea of ignoring my request of no visitors and just turn up anyway. (which is highly likely of him to do) He can just be so offensive sometimes - particularly when I've asked for something that doesn't suit his wants. Anyway, hopefully the inconvenience of a 3hr drive for a 15min visit will be deterent enough!

Roxy - great to hear from you! Your rural change sound absolutely wonderful! I'd love a seachange! Suburbia does nothing for me. Give me ocean view (preferably) or rolling hills anyday!

Quaver - great to know the cakes are going well - the pics look fantastic! You do such a brilliant job!

Well I've been taking DD to a waterpark each day. The days are so warm atm and she loves it! I really need to go do some shopping, but we just go to the park instead! She is back sleeping overnight (5pm - 5am) so the activity each day is great for tiring her out.

take care girls.

RoarsomeMum

06-08-2009, 09:14

Skyhummer - Don't be put off by the date, it is wonderful news, I like to see horrible world event history overshadowed by something beautiful. New life. :goodvibes::goodvibes:

Moops - It's not too late for PND... My Mum suffered badly for 40 years. :hugs::hugs: I wish I could help more.. My only saviour here is that i can and DO walk away and leave roar with Chris.. have a big cry.. scream/walk/punching bag attack. - it's the only way I cope sometimes. Time away from Roar is what I feared the most, but helped me the most.

Love ya's all but think Roar is destroying lounge!! back later!

shymmer

06-08-2009, 09:47

Roars - You know destroying your child's artwork is morally devastating! Shame on you for cleaning the lounge! LOL I'm glad Roar is reminding you of your 'supportive' role as mum. If you take away one creative outlet, she must find another!
(I do hope you have those Crayola 'washable crayons'?)

Thanks for the lovely thought on bubs birth date. You are so right. :hugs:

AliyahBlake

06-08-2009, 10:41

Moops - Don't worry mate. Some days I scream so badly/loudly/violently at Eden that I don't even really like myself. Thankfully we have the good days to balance out the crappy ones.

OMG Nan - I am so glad I'm not the only one who does that. These little girls just really know how to push our buttons don't they? I love it that Aliyah is headstrong and pretty independent, but I would love it more if she would actually do as she was told and not argue every single point with me.......karma coming back on me though - I was exactly the same as a kid (and I do remember it!!)

hey girls!!!!!!!

Hey Rox - welcome back!! Good luck with your sea-change interstate. I can tell you it was the best thing we ever did moving interstate for a fresh start, so I hope it all works out well for you guys. Good luck with TTCing also!!

Well things are ok here, I was quite ill last night I had a really bad stomach ache with cramps so I was fearing the worst but just ended up on the loo all night

Oh no Moops! I hope you're ok now. Nothing worse than being sick like that in early pregnancy (well I guess any time in pregnancy!). It can be frightening as your first thought is if the baby's ok. Take care of yourself and I'm sure bub will be fine. And yeah I reckon you can get PND anytime after having a bub, not just in the few days after - although by now (as Luca's almost 2) it could just be classed as clinical depression. Also you can get pregnancy depression due to hormones etc. Definitely talk to a professional if you feel things are getting too much for you as it can be treated.:hugs: And it is so natural to be freaked out about coping with two kids.....I often stressed about it when I was pg with Blake, but the truth is, there will be days when you cope brilliantly and days when it's all just too hard. It's all part of parenthood and we all cope in different ways. It will all happen as it happens, and in 20 years time you'll look back and think "Hey, that wasn't so bad!!"

Time away from Roar is what I feared the most, but helped me the most.

I must admit Em, I've done that a few times with my kids - they've driven me that nuts I have just had to walk away. It does help that Aliyah goes to school now, so the time we do spend together is much more special, and Blake has his 2 days at daycare, which is enough for me to recharge by batteries (even if I do have to go to work). There comes a time when you just need a break from your kids, whether it's a quick walk in the fresh air outside (and a cry or scream!) for a few minutes, or when they are at school/daycare. Mummies need time to themselves too!!

Well, speaking of time to myself - today I've got it. Unfortunately it won't be productive or even enjoyable as I'm really sick with a cold/flu (can't tell the difference as I just feel awful!). At the moment the drugs have kicked in, hence why I'm sitting at the computer, but I'm about to go an collapse on the lounge in front of TV again in a minute. I was so embarrassed tis morning when I dropped Blake off at daycare - I had a dizzy spell and tripped and fell over one of the kids' toys (now I have a sore leg and bum!!). Then when I got back to the front office to pay the fees, I felt like I was going to pass out and had to sit down and have a glass of water! The daycare director was lovely and offered to drive me home, but I felt a bit better so I took Aliyah to school - she announced to everyone that "Mummy just fell over!!" - so the embarrassment doubled! Anyway, I got myself home and slept for an hour which has helped a little. I've put the kids on multivitamins and Inner Health for Kids to help boost their immune systems (why didn't I do that 3 weeks ago:rolleyes:) so hopefully they'll recover and not get anymore viruses this winter. I'm taking some vitamins too as I want to be healthy as well!

Anyway, off to the lounge - catch you all later!

Moops

06-08-2009, 17:11

Shymmer - I just re-read my post about the c/s date and it sounded really negative, I really didn't mean to put a dampner on it hun! I just noticed the date and didnt think but to comment on it. :o I totally agree with what Em said, she is spot on! xxx:hugs:

shymmer

06-08-2009, 20:08

sandralee

06-08-2009, 20:20

OMG OMG OMG OMG CONGRATULATIONS NAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yelclap::babydust2:WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Off to bed for me, going to have an early night for once - just wanted to pop in and see what the verdict was with your BFP. Now we can all pass the fertility torch onto Em and let it work some magic. Seahorse powder sounds so magical and pretty though!!!!!!!! Just the name of it sounds like it brings dreams to life!! Sweet dreams XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxxxxx:babydust2:

RoarsomeMum

06-08-2009, 20:23

Olympia Jade! :goodvibes::goodvibes: that's divine! Very excited about all the new babies in the making and growing!! and loving all the great +++ vibes you guys are sending out.

Moops, So good to see you about again, was missing ya heaps! (and thought of u today when Roar was being Feral!) What the heck happened with the bomb!!!!!!

AB - Sending heaps of healthy vibes your way!!

Oh I am on such a happy hormonal high!! and had some great news yesterday, Dad will sell us his 2nd car (which is newer than ANYTHING we coul dhave hoped to afford B4 Xmas!) and will pay 2 yrs Rego and keep it insured, All for the bargin price of $50pw for 80 weeks! It's a dream come true for us, cause it means, A) mobility, I can visit MUMMY!!!!!! way way WAY more often, and B) the money we had saved for the car can go straight to baby making! :thumbsup: Just some really great news after a crap few weeks!

Roar is Roar, half of the time sweetness and light, the other half Devil child! - But sleeping better, and that helps. How was Luca today Melly? And James Em?

PROUDLY ACCEPT THE TORCH SANDS!!!!!! Awesome! xxxxx (must admit, I dreamed of a baby girl, with the name Alaska Rain.. :bee:)

Talk soon peeps! xxxx

Nan

06-08-2009, 20:26

Hey lovelies!

Don't worry about the lack of symptoms - I found out early with both mine and didn't get any symptoms til 6 weeks - then they hit like a ton of bricks LOL!!
Oh, I'm glad you said that. Cool! I tend to have fairly cruisy pregnancies anyway. I wasn't worried, but these things are always in the back of your mind! You're right about our girls. I've actually been lapping up Eden's awesome behaviour over the last 2 days. Don't know what's got into her but she has been delightful......compared to her usual standards!!! I hope Aliyah is better now. Ear infections are SO painful.

Roxy - great to hear from you! Your rural change sound absolutely wonderful! I'd love a seachange! Suburbia does nothing for me. Give me ocean view (preferably) or rolling hills anyday!
You'd love where I live. We're 30 mins from the city by car but about 40kms. Our town/suburb is right on the edge of suburbia. Towns further out than us are counted as rural. We're up on a hill & if you stand out on the top of our driveway and look to the right all you see is rolling hills with gorgeous big old gums, cows, meadows, an old farm home. It's stunning! If you look left you see towards our town and the homes of our neighbours. We LOVE it here!

Roxy!! YAY!! You're back! Now we just have to get RB back on here. Glad to hear things are going well. Which state are you moving to....or is it a secret for now?

quaver - Oh, poor J. I hope he's better soon.

Em - Yeah, you gotta have time out every now and then mate.

Moops - It has sunk in now. I had a doctor's appointment to day and she's just bought a new u/s machine so she did an u/s. Of course, there wasn't even anything to see apart from enlarged/thickened uterus and a few other boring things, but it helped me feel like it was real.

Doc is sending me for a dating scan but its not for a few weeks yet. I also have to have blood taken because of all the mystery initially! Not in any hurry. I'm pretty relaxed really.

Sorry if I missed anyone. I didn't mean to. I'm so buggered at the moment!

RoarsomeMum

06-08-2009, 20:33

:smiliedance::goodvibes: Nan!! I am glad your relaxed!! and remember the buggeredness only tooooo well!! Get some good sleep all you Mumma's!!!!

sandralee

06-08-2009, 20:35

p.s. I think september 11 has beautiful vibes for a due date - a reminder of the balance of energy/the yin and yang etc - souls were lost that day and went back 'home', while other little souls are choosing that day to make earth there new home for a while. That's just my way of looking at it, as a reminder of the balance of life - we need both sides to exist in universal harmony. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
p.s. Moops I look forward to chatting to you again, so much I want to say but I really need to snuggle in bed. Getting up for my blood test early in the morning ew. I want to get there when they open at 7.30 so I don't have a long wait.
p.p.s. Em Noah is like that too, either angel or devil - and usually switches to one or the other WITHOUT WARNING lol!
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Moops

07-08-2009, 03:55

Dont worry Moops! I didn't think you were making a negative comment. It occured to me it was "september 11th" too, and in all honesty, if I could have chosen the day I wouldn't have chosen the 11th for that reason. But I think it kind of nice that 'fate' chooses the date anyway, and not me. Makes it a little less contrived, you know? ;)

Oh good I'm glad I didn't offend you sometimes I write things without really thinking as I'm usually in a hurry :footinmouth: I agree that the cosmos has chosen this date for a reason! xx

Oh and yes, we have settled on Olympia Jade for bubsy. I actually thought of another good nickname the other night, but for the life of me can't remember it now! Though I can't guarentee I didn't dream it - so it possibly could be something totally off the mark, LOL!

Loving the name Shymmer! I can't believe how close it is!! I still really like Valentina (apart from the nickname issue) and DH likes Seraphina and Alessia but I'm not so sure..?

Moops, So good to see you about again, was missing ya heaps! (and thought of u today when Roar was being Feral!) What the heck happened with the bomb!!!!!!

Been missing you too Em! You go AWOL far more often than I do!! :laughing: The bomb is sitting in our backyard! What the heck do you do with it?! DH doesn't want to call the cops incase they start digging around our house!

Oh I am on such a happy hormonal high!! and had some great news yesterday, Dad will sell us his 2nd car (which is newer than ANYTHING we coul dhave hoped to afford B4 Xmas!) and will pay 2 yrs Rego and keep it insured, All for the bargin price of $50pw for 80 weeks! It's a dream come true for us, cause it means, A) mobility, I can visit MUMMY!!!!!! way way WAY more often, and B) the money we had saved for the car can go straight to baby making! :thumbsup: Just some really great news after a crap few weeks!

SO HAPPY FOR YOU EM! That is great news, it is so wonderful when things fall into place and those who need help get a break! Now that this weight has been lifted from you I'm sure you'll get a bfp soon! xx

Roar is Roar, half of the time sweetness and light, the other half Devil child! - But sleeping better, and that helps. How was Luca today Melly? And James Em?

Luca hasn't been too bad the last couple of days actually, still mega hard work but not as many tantrums as usual. We went to the zoo today, Luca is soooo not an animal lover! He couldn't have given a crap about seeing them!

PROUDLY ACCEPT THE TORCH SANDS!!!!!! Awesome! xxxxx (must admit, I dreamed of a baby girl, with the name Alaska Rain.. :bee:)

Talk soon peeps! xxxx

Oohhh Love the name Alaska!

Moops - It has sunk in now. I had a doctor's appointment to day and she's just bought a new u/s machine so she did an u/s. Of course, there wasn't even anything to see apart from enlarged/thickened uterus and a few other boring things, but it helped me feel like it was real.

How exciting Nan!! I still haven't had a scan yet, they make you wait till 12 weeks here, which I think is way too long if something has gone wrong. I'm planning to go to the early pregnancy unit next weekend to see if everything is ok before we go to Italy. I'm feeling ill so I know things are still ok but it doesn't feel real because I haven't seen the baby yet!

p.s. Moops I look forward to chatting to you again, so much I want to say but I really need to snuggle in bed. Getting up for my blood test early in the morning ew. I want to get there when they open at 7.30 so I don't have a long wait.
p.p.s. Em Noah is like that too, either angel or devil - and usually switches to one or the other WITHOUT WARNING lol!
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No worries Sands, I know how it is! Talk soon xxx

Just saw on FB that Goose is pregnant as well! What the heck is going on! I'm 10 weeks on Tuesday so not too long till I can tell everyone!

My best mate went for her 21 week scan today and they told her there is a 70 percent chance she's having a girl! Our sons are born on the same day and we are really in sync so hopefully I will have a girl too! I'm feeling the pressure now though!!

I cooked a curry for dinner tonight and i'm seriously regretting it now! Going to go eat something else to take the taste away!

Talk soon lovelies xxx

p.s Em your emu is freaking me out man!

shymmer

07-08-2009, 10:08

Roars - Alaska is a really beautiful name! And how fantastic of your dad to help you out with the car issue! I'm so happy you are out of the fog and into the sunlight again!!

Moops - I quite like Alessia. I pronounce it A-LESS-ia. Is that right? I tossed around Alessandra on my list - Alessa for short, which is similar.
Er - I think you should get that bomb looked at . . . unless you are sure it's not live. Is it intact? Or just a shell? And honeslty, if there are other bombs down there - you'd want them removed!

Nan - where you live sounds gorgeous! Can I come live with you? :D Our last house had a deck off the kitchen and we could see the storms come across and the sunset - it was very nice. Don't have that at this place and I do miss sitting on that deck with a glass of red!

Oh well, hopefully next house we buy will have some sort of outlook (over rooftops probably, lol), but a nice deck area with some breeze action would be great!

Hope you ladies had a good night sleep! xxx

Nan

07-08-2009, 10:41

p.s. I think september 11 has beautiful vibes for a due date - a reminder of the balance of energy/the yin and yang etc - souls were lost that day and went back 'home', while other little souls are choosing that day to make earth there new home for a while.
Good point Sands. The whole circle of life thing fascinates me. About 4 years ago we got an email to tell us that a gorgeous lady & friend (only in her late 30s) passed away due to breast cancer and we were really down about it. Within 30 mins we got a phone call telling us our first niece had been born. I was just stunned at how one gorgeous lady left our world and another came into it. :goodvibes:

Oh and yes, we have settled on Olympia Jade for bubsy.
I love it! Very nice!

Oh I am on such a happy hormonal high!! and had some great news yesterday, Dad will sell us his 2nd car (which is newer than ANYTHING we coul dhave hoped to afford B4 Xmas!) and will pay 2 yrs Rego and keep it insured, All for the bargin price of $50pw for 80 weeks.
Woohoo! :smiliedance: That's so great!

Nan - where you live sounds gorgeous! Can I come live with you?
:laughing: Forgot to say if you look straight ahead you see the most gorgeous winter pink sunsets (when they happen) as the sun sets to our front and rises to our rear.

Thanks Sands! Yeah, pretty happy about it! :D

Moops - I like the name Alessia. I taught a little girl called Alyssia once....also a gorgeous name. Reminds me of flowers! :p

Well, I'm off. Day of cleaning and washing here. I'm sure the kids will trash it as I go, but its gotta be done!

Nan

11-08-2009, 20:14

Hey girls.
Well, it looks like I'll be playing the waiting game again. I lost the bub today. :gloomy:

I got up to go to the loo last night at about 3 and had a spot of blood and some mucous but didn't think anything of it coz it was small. But today I woke up with massive cramps and bled out all morning....heaps. :crying:

Went to the doc and she gave me my blood results from last Thursday. HCG was only 41 at almost 5 weeks. :eek: (supposed to bee around 5,000 or so) So, I was definitely preggers but for some reason this little one just didn't grow. I got more blood taken today. She said if the level has gone up I could just be very early preggers, but I know my dates. She also said its very unlikely. Plus, I'm still bleeding now. It's SO yuck. :dizzy:

Anyway, I won't bore you with any more details. Just going to bed a bit sad tonight. I really wanted this one.

RIP little precious. :angel:. Even though you were only 5 weeks inside, know that someone cared for you very much.

RoarsomeMum

11-08-2009, 20:24

:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: Oh Nan.. My heart breaks for you guys. Sweet Dreams precious Angel.

More hugs than I can Post Nan. :hugs:Be kind to yourself. We are all thinking of you.

sandralee

11-08-2009, 20:54

:hugs:Nan you are gonna make me cry! Words don't seem to be enough right now, so please know that I am feeling sad with you - and sending you the most loving vibes you can imagine, full of prayers and fast healing. I am so sorry to hear that news, I really am. Maybe the little angel was doing a quick test run before the real thing. Love to you, on every level :kiss:xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo x

shymmer

12-08-2009, 10:06

I'm so sorry Nan. That is so dissapointing. :hugs: Take care and I hope your spirits lift soon.

AliyahBlake

12-08-2009, 11:14

:hugs::hugs::gloomy: Oh Nan, I'm so sorry to hear that you lost bub. I hope you recover quickly from it and my thoughts and prayers are with you. xxxxx

RoarsomeMum

12-08-2009, 13:06

Surrounded by losses and stengthened by our Endurance to get through them. Have been given permission to Post a link to Hope's Story, as told in the Herald Sunday Sun. So Proud of them for having the courage to share their story.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25900956-2862,00.html

:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: to all the Angels. Hope that you are coping O.K Nan. xxx

Nan

12-08-2009, 14:04

Thanks girls! :hugs: I gratefully receive all your hugs. You guys are the best!
I'm doing ok. It's been a very emotional week though. From total high to shocking low. :( I'm absolutely exhausted. For the most part its life as usual, but every now and then I have a little cry.........mostly at baby related things!
Thanks for posting that story Em. I think it was healthy for me to read that. I'm so pleased they are expecting again.
Sands, I hope you're right. That's one thing I keep hoping, that I'll be preggers again soon. This whole thing has definitely deepened the desire to have another child. Just have to give myself a few weeks to heal.

Hope everyone is well & that the sick kids are feeling 100% soon.

Moops

13-08-2009, 05:32

Oh no Nan, I'm so sorry I know how much you wanted this bub :hugs:I agree with the others that you will be expecting another little one in no time at all. I know it is a cliche to say everything happens for a reason but it's made you guys realise how much you want to expand your beautiful family and that is a blessing xxx

quaver

13-08-2009, 17:45

Hi girls, my computer has been down all week. I will catch up soon but i needed to say.
Nan:gloomy::hugs::hugs: I am so sorry.

my prayers go to you and your family. xx go easy on yourselfxxxxxx

sandralee

13-08-2009, 21:09

I love that name too shymmer, it' on our list- for a middle name though - we will probably stick with an easy straightforward first name, then a stronger name in the middle. I have also liked Alessandra cos it is so similar to my name, and would be nice to share that with a daughter.
Guys we have been told that our baby has a 70% chance of being a girl going by the scan yesterday - I am reluctant to get my hopes up though!! Please do NOT MENTION IT ON FACEBOOK as we are keeping the sex a surprise for our families til feb!!!!!!!!!!! (that's why I am freaking a little bit about writing it in here, but you girls have shared a lot with me over the last few years) I am telling everyone that I am not finding out the sex, purely because they would pester all the time for me to tell them what it is! And like I said, she could only reinforce that it was 70% accurate - she is really experienced though, and when I said I'd wait til the next scan to get excited she kept reassuring me that it definitely looked like a girl. ho hum.....
well it has been a long day for me today, spent the entire day without Noah - only got back to bath him and put him to bed lol. Missed him so much!! I feel like I have gone a bit frumpy since having him, so may be time for sprucing up my wardrobe again!
Sweet dreams, and the most beautiful mega-powerful baby vibes to Nan and Em when the time is just right xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Moops

14-08-2009, 03:42

Hi everyone

How are we all doing??

Sands - I reckon that scan coupled with your early gender prediction test gives you pretty good odds of having a girl!! I'm so happy and ever so jealous!!! I just know I'm having another boy!

I'm going for a scan tomorrow morning just to check that everything is ok before we go to Italy on Wednesday. I'm still feeling sick so that is reassuring me but you never know...:fingerscrossed:

Lozie - Did you get the girl diet that I emailed you?

Has anyone heard from Mrs S lately?? xx

Moops

14-08-2009, 17:18

Well I just got back from my scan and it is a blighted ovum so I have to have a d&c on Monday before I go to Italy. We are supposed to go away this weekend to see friends and we were going to tell them, I just feel so shocked! I had/have morning sickness so I thought everything was alright. I am so angry for not going to the Early Pregnancy Unit earlier, I've been counting down to 12 weeks for nothing at all! So gutted!!

RoarsomeMum

14-08-2009, 17:23

Oh Moops.. Its so cruel and Unfair.. :hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs: I wish I knew what else to say.. Here for you, and vent anytime. Hugs and Kisses from Em and Roar

quaver

14-08-2009, 18:05

ah moops:hugs: i am so sorry. i saw your fb post and my heart just sunk. :( not a good time for you and Nan. my heartfelt prayers are with you both. words fail me otherwise. what does that mean? is it a type of ectopic pregnancy? i hope you can get some time to yourself when you are away, give you time to heal. Give that cute little boy of yours an extra big hug.

Just an update on the James and sleep front. I went to the gp last week and discussed everything. he was great, thought it was time to try tresilian. so i have a pre admission interview first week in september and they will give me a date. i feel good to do something but nervous to what it will be like and how it will go. we could not get into the one that is close to us so i am not sure whether dh will be able to come much because it is so far away from his work. very daunting though doing it all on my own. hec i dont know how single mums do it!

xxx love to you all.

melbryan

14-08-2009, 19:30

Just wanted to pop by and say hi to all.
Firstly Nan and Moops my heart is with you both. I haven't personally been through a M/C but I can imagine there must be lots going through your minds and feeling upset may just be an understatement.Moops I saw on FB and decided to come on in and investigate. I know it's no consolation but very soon you will both be pregnant and it was just too early for this little one to enter the world.
Sands I love your statuses they always make me smile, I gather you are preggers too and I hope the diet has served it's purpose girls but if not you all with have beautiful babies anyway.
I know Lozie lost a bubs too is she preggers again??
I do miss you girls and love keeping updated on FB with the photos and things, I don't come here much but do check up occasionally.
Our tribe is well Ashton is getting a pump on October 6 we are looking forward to giving him only one needle every 3 days instead of 12. He is about 15.5kg's a real beast and just rolls over his brothers he will a footy player we think. He doesn't talk at all yet but whinges alot of the time when he can't have something. We are going on a diabetes walk in Parra park on the 18th Oct to raise funds anyone want to come you are welcome. Leah is nearly 6 mths and an angel of a baby, she is just what our family needed and I just couldn't bear our life without her. The older two are 5 and 3 just had their birthdays so we have been busy of late.
Love to you all....
Mel xx

shymmer

14-08-2009, 19:37

Moops, I'm so sorry. :hugs: I hope your trip to Italy will cheer you up a bit (distract you at least) and you can feel better to move on from this and get on with TTC that little girl bubba!
Thinking of you.

Quaver, I'm glad you have something to work toward regarding J's sleep. Is tresilian a 'sleep over' thing? Where you stay there a couple of nights and they monitor J's sleeping and help you teach him to self settle etc? If I took Dd to something like that, Dh wouldn't come. I'd have to go by myself, and I'd actually prefer that as I think Dh would be distracting for us both.

Had a nice day today. Dh had the day off (worked Ekka holiday instead), so he did a few things on the rental house then we all went to a council water park for a romp. DD loved it, as usual, and then we came home and had a 3hr nap! Hmmm, so nice. It's such lovely weather here atm.

Ok, better bath this girl. Take care lovely ladies.

sandralee

14-08-2009, 19:57

Moops I am so sorry to hear about your day, I can't even begin to describe how sad I was to read about it. (came straight on here a few mins ago after reading your status) Don't beat yourself up about all the yucky feelings you may feel through the grieving process, you may be angry/hurt/hate pregnant women etc - it is all completely normal and part of the healing process. I wish I could give you and Nan the biggest cuddles right now, and help you both through this sh!thouse time. Just remember that your body knows how to conceive and carry a baby to term, so you know it is possible. I wish I could offer you a divine reason as to why you have to experience this, but I can't. I am sending you and Nan so many prayers right now, and a whole lot of love. This has taught me not to take anything for granted, and for all I know it could be me next week. THere is nothing set in stone and absolutely no guarrantees with anything in life. I feel so sad for you that I feel like it is actually me going through this - well I guess I am, we are all connected as good friends here, and I am going through it with you. Sorry to babble, I was initially speechless & now I am pouring my heart out. After two cries on Steve's shoulder, I am going to light some more candles and say some prayers - for anyone who has ever miscarried. I didn't think I was too distressed after miscarrying a twin, cos I didn't think I would be able to handle two babies plus Noah, but I obviously had some hidden grief in there tucked away cos now I feel very sad for the loss. So thank you for helping me bring it to the surface. May you girls heal your hearts with Godspeed, and conceive at the perfect time. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

kaybee

14-08-2009, 20:32

Bast*rd! I just lost a massive post!! I so hate that! Probably bocz it's taken me ages to finish it.

It’s been a long time, but I am always reading and keeping up to date on FB. I had to come on to check on Moops, I was so hoping it wasn’t true. :hugs::hugs:Babe.
Also hugs to Nan. :hugs:I know how much you wanted this bub. I just know that the 2 of you will be growing another little one very soon!!
Congrats to everyone who is expecting, don’t know when we’ll start trying for no. 2. By the end of year for sure.
Em, I’ve been meaning to say to you I hear you about crappy family. DH’s are an absolute nightmare! They have caused us so much grief and stress. Just b4 Ava was born, we had a big bust up with his parent’s (Dad & step mum). So we decided we don’t need their sh!t anymore and that we would have our own little family of 3 very soon, so we would focus on that. Once A was born, they become our best friend’s becoz we had provided a grandchild! The complete opposite of their complete lack of interest while I was pregnant. DH takes A around to visit every week, but I haven’t seen them since Xmas.
Well, A is just growing so much. She’s going really well, a real terror at times but the light of our lives! She talks all the time! If only get her to ffed herself. I’m so over the mess and fights at mealtimes!:hair:
We bought a little house a little while ago, I think I wrote it on FB. It’s going great, but DH’s real mum passed way at the same time, so it was an extremely stressful and emotional time. I think we are getting back on track now. All we need now is to get someone to babysit so we can go out on a “date”. We haven’t been out on our own since the 1st of march.
Anyhoo, gotta go, trying to watch SYTYCD but A has a bad cold and so is still awake and crying in her cot, 2 hours after we put her to bed. Ta-ta :kiss:

quaver

14-08-2009, 21:19

you all have such a beautiful way of putting things, i keep getting all teary. :hugs::hugs:

Mel-that is great news about A''s pump. My brother has been a changed person since getting one. an amazing piece of technology. i will be at the JD walk too!

shymmer-yep it is a week stay. Dh has been amazing and a very active daddy so it will just be hard without him. step in the right direction that needs to be tried out anyway.

sands- i am sorry for your loss too.

good to hear from you beautiful people, though i wish it was under better circumstances.

:angel: xxxx

Moops

15-08-2009, 04:26

Hi Ladies thank you so much for your :hugs: it has really helped me xxx

Quaver - A blighted ovum is when the the fertilised egg implants in your uterus but for some reason the baby doesn't develop ie it is an empty sack. Your body thinks there is a baby in there though so you can still get all the normal pregnancy symptoms. I was so shocked when the Sonographer told me, I've had absolutely no spotting etc and because of the m/s, sore boobs and bump I naturally thought everything was ok! I've been in a complete daze today.

I feel really ripped off thinking I've been sick as a dog for nearly 5 weeks for absolutely nothing and was so close to the 12 week mark and there was never even a baby there :no:

To make matters worse I am dreading the d&c on Monday, I hate going under so I'm kind of hoping I will miscarry on the weekend. We are also off to Italy on Wednesday, I was so looking forward to it and telling everyone our news. Now I'm going to be sad, fat and probably bleeding so no pool action for me.

Sorry to ramble on but I was so positive about this pg and after everything we went through to get pg I'm really not sure I have it in me to start all over again....

On a positive note it has made me appreciate Luca more, he is my little angel. He gave me big kisses and cuddles after I came home from the Hospital crying :kiss:

Sands - I'm sorry for your loss too, did they confirm this again at your last appt?

Nan - How you doing hun? xx

Nan

16-08-2009, 17:01

OMG Moops. :gloomy: I'm so sorry love. :gloomy: How awful. Oh man. I feel your pain. I know I'm a million miles away, but I hope you can feel some love from me. :hugs: I'm so sad for you. It does sap all your energy doesn't it? I'll pray that you have the strength to keep trying. Even if you don't actually try and just let it happen. Sometimes this is the best way anyway. All the best for tomorrow hon. I know it will be hard, but you can do it. You are a strong, vibrant lady. Lots of love & hugs from me. Thanks for asking how I am. I'm doing ok. A girl from church announced she was 10 weeks preggers this week and I got sad again....not to mention jealous. Like Sands & Mel said though, we'll be preggers again soon. Keep thinking positively. :goodvibes: Plus, I ordered a pair of maternity 3/4 pants for summer that came in the mail and I cried when I got them. Such an idiot! I'm not buying anything next time!! Not until I'm pretty sure I'm in the clear anyway. Shane had Wed - Fri off work to help me around the house and with the kids etc coz I just lost all will to do anything for a couple of days, but I'm back now. Now my bleeding has stopped I'm ready to start again. Come on down, baby!

We called the bub Charlie. I like it for a boy or girl, so we figured it fit. :angel:

Sands - I didn't know you had twins in there. I'm sorry you lost one. :hugs: I remember you saying something about maybe, but I didn't know it was ever certain. Thank you so much for all the support. However distant, it still helps.

Mel - Good to hear from you.

Haven't heard from Mrs S. Might write her a FB message.
Love to all. Gotta go get the kids some tea.

AliyahBlake

17-08-2009, 05:57

Wooh, what a weekend!! Relaxed but busy at the same time - haven't had a chance to even get on the computer much.

Firstly, I want to tell you, Moops, I am so sorry that your little bubba wasn't to be :hugs: How frustrating though to have gone through that whole 12 weeks thinking everything was ok. You make sure you have a really big cry and get it all out. Give yourself time to grieve and you will try again when you're ready.

Nan - some more :hugs: for you too - I can't imagine what you are going through, but it must be incredibly hard.

Sands - I remember you did mention a little while back that you had miscarried a twin :( - at least on the bright side you still have your strong bubba inside.

Mel and Kaybee - good to see you guys here again. Glad everything is going well for you guys :)

Quaver - good luck with Tresillian. I know a couple of people who have done the sleep over thing and it's been very successful. I'm glad you looked into it!

Well looks like we are all over our horrible illnesses here - except for Craig (but he's much better now than a few days ago). The weather has been glorious this last week, and we are expecting 29 degrees today and even higher later in the week!! I love this weather but am dreading to think how bloody hot it'll be when summer actually hits!

Oh, and something exciting (sort of!) - Aliyah has her first adult tooth coming through!! Only problem is the loose baby tooth hasn't come out and the adult tooth has appeared behind it. I've told her to wiggle her tooth heaps but if it doesn't fall out soon I might have to get a dentist to have a look. My little girl's growing up!!!

shymmer

17-08-2009, 08:47

Morning lovelies,

It's gorgeous weather here in Bris too AB. I would almost celebrate that Spring is here, but am just waiting for Sep 1st incase we get a nasty cold snap to slap my hand!

Have to get Xav up in a minute to go have her imms. (I'm a bit behind with them) She is really off her food last three days. Otherwise perfectly healthy and happy, but suddenly won't eat anything 'healthy' I offer her. Will still eat buscuits etc so I don't think anything is actually wrong. But of course the lack of propper food is making her wake through the night hungry.
She still has two bottles of formula a day and I gave her a third in the middle of the night to appease her hunger so she could stay asleep, so I know she's getting something good. She may have had a growth spurt I think and her appetite increased, and now it's dropped off, so the difference is quite noticable.

Have to wake her up now. HOpe you all have a nice healing and uplifting day.:flowerz:

Moops

18-08-2009, 01:35

HI everyone

Well I'm back from the Hospital and it's all done and over with. I went early this morning for another scan as I had heaps of questions and doubts over what they had told me. At my initial scan on Friday they said there was an empty gestational sac, yolk sac and amniotic sac. After lots of googling I read that it cannot be diagnosed as a blighted ovum if there is a yolk sac present as it would only develop if there was a viable embryo present. I also still had all my pregnancy symptoms and thought maybe I wasn't as far along as they thought as my cycles are very long. I wasn't really holding out any hope but I just wanted to know what really happened.

Anyway at the scan this morning, they found an embryo but it only looked about 6 weeks old and didn't have a heartbeat. I don't know how she couldn't see anything on Friday yet today there was a 6mm embryo! I'm so glad that I went for the scan so I know that there was a baby there and I can grieve properly, it is such a weird feeling thinking there was nothing there at all like I imagined it all.

Anyway I'm looking forward to Italy and trying to put it all behind us. We leave on Wednesday for 10 days so I won't be on here for a while.

Hope you are all well lots of love xx

shymmer

18-08-2009, 04:32

Moops I'm glad you got some answers. Makes it a bit easier to deal with when you can understand it a bit better. Italy will be great to take your mind off it and rejuvinate youself back into a positive frame of mind. Hopefully your morning sickness will be gone in the next couple of days too, so you will feel better physically. I hope you have a lovely time over there. Eat some pizza for me if you don't mind? I could really go some real Italian pizza! :hugs:

Well, Xav had her chicken pox needle yesterday. She screamed for a few seconds but then was ok, and no side effects yet which is good. No temp, happy as normal and even eating a little better than the last few days. (She did just score the chocolate chip cookie packet off the bench and ate those for breaky, but hey . . . we've all had junk food for breaky at some point, right? lol.)

Think I need another coffee. I woke at 2.30am and couldn't get back to sleep and then Xav was awake, so I got her up at 4am. Hopefully she'll have a nice big sleep before lunch and I can catch some zzzz's too.

AB - I think you are going to have nip the friendship with feral child next door in the bud! Your stories remind of our old neighbours kids. No propper sense of boundaries and general trouble makers. I was so glad when we moved before we had kids because I wouldn't want them near my kids! A will do better without learning her mischevious ways!

quaver

18-08-2009, 08:01

moops- :hugs: I am pleased that you got some answers and that it is all over. Hope you can relax a bit in Italy. and like shymmer said, have some real pizza for me....and maybe some gelato too.
Nan- :hugs: for charlie. hope you are going ok. how has your dh been coping?
Ab- aw little A is growing up. first big tooth! that seems ages away but probably isnt! yes i am glad i am looking into tresillian. it makes me feel like i am doing something. having said that the night before last he slept through the night! but we were back to it last night.

shymmer- good to get the needles over an done with. is that it until 4 for them now? Yay for biscuts. James managed to say biscut this week.:rolleyes: try not to worry about the food. they all go in cycles i think

well better get a move on. James and i are off to mind a 6 month old today. will be bit of a test i am sure. see how it goes.

AliyahBlake

18-08-2009, 09:58

Hi Girls! Beautiful day again here today - geez I love Queensland LOL!!!

Moops - :hugs: to you honey. You are so brave and you did the right thing by having another scan - at least it brought some closure and set it all right in your mind as to what happened. I hope you recover ok, and have a good time in Italy - probably good you are going away so you can take your mind of things for a little while.

Shymmer - I totally agree - I will be nipping this friendship in the bud as I just don't like this family. We had a bad first impression when we first moved here as they completely snobbed us (wouldn't even say hi or wave to us!) and I think the only reason they talk to us now is because our kids play together. Well this little girl is rude and obnoxious and it rubs off on Aliyah whenever they play together so it stops now!! Guess I have to be cruel to be kind!! They are building a new house so they'll soon be moving anyway thank goodness ;)

Well, I have had an epiphany of sorts.............for the last few months I have been at a crossroads in my life - I know there's something more I want to do careerwise and I know it's not nursing! Well after thinking for ages and chatting with a few friends, something has finally sparked in me. It's totally out of the blue (well not for me but for everyone else!) but I have decided I'd like to do my Bachelor of Primary Teaching :eek: I haven't discussed it with Craig yet, but I've found a distance ed course through a uni in WA and I can take my time with it, plus I'm hoping I qualify for the fee-help scheme so I won't have to fork out money til I graduate and start working. I'm waiting for them to get back to me with some more info, and then I'm going to talk about it with Craig. Teaching is something that has always been in the back of my mind, but my life took me in a different direction after the HSC. I think if I did teaching it would just open up so many opportunities, and also benefit the kids as I'd be of more help to them with their schooling, and the hours and holidays would suit (even though I know there is a lot of after hours work involved!). I'm just hoping Craig will see it my way, then I can enrol and start straight away, and keep working as a nurse to bring money in. Wish me luck (and feel free to offer any thoughts or advice girls :D )