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Aquamarine
11-02-2009, 12:29
I have held off my childs 4 year old immunisations. My child is now 5 and is booked in for this after school today.
I am 50/50 when it comes to the immunisation debate.
My question is -
Have you heard of any stories (online) or through friends about their childs negative reactions to the 4 year old needle.
I know the people who believe there may be a risk to autism usually say it happens after the 2 year old needle?
Any info would be much appreciated. Thanks
I believe the link to autism is a trigger only and autism can be triggered in many ways be it food, immunisation or environment factors. A friend of mine who has 2 autistic children believes her children would have had autism anyway regardless.
I don't believe vaccinations cause autism but it can be a trigger factor if you have the autistic gene.
Sheer Bliss
11-02-2009, 12:41
I believe the link to autism is a trigger only and autism can be triggered in many ways be it food, immunisation or environment factors. A friend of mine who has 2 autistic children believes her children would have had autism anyway regardless.
I don't believe vaccinations cause autism but it can be a trigger factor if you have the autistic gene.
:iagree:
Aquamarine
11-02-2009, 12:43
I believe the link to autism is a trigger only and autism can be triggered in many ways be it food, immunisation or environment factors. A friend of mine who has 2 autistic children believes her children would have had autism anyway regardless.
I don't believe vaccinations cause autism but it can be a trigger factor if you have the autistic gene.
I believe it 'may' be a trigger too. I was wondering if there is any stories where there 4 year old vax possibly 'triggered' autism or of all the claims to this were after the two year old needle. IYKWIM ;)
If you're 50/50. Don't do it.
Get them done when you have fully researched and are 100% comfortable.
You can't take back a vaccination once it is administered.
Fuchsia!
11-02-2009, 12:46
If you're 50/50. Don't do it.
Get them done when you have fully researched and are 100% comfortable.
You can't take back a vaccination once it is administered.
i agree
Aquamarine
11-02-2009, 12:47
If you're 50/50. Don't do it.
Get them done when you have fully researched and are 100% comfortable.
You can't take back a vaccination once it is administered.
Yes I think you are right. My instinct is telling me to ring and cancel. Thankyou. ;)
I believe it 'may' be a trigger too. I was wondering if there is any stories where there 4 year old vax possibly 'triggered' autism or of all the claims to this were after the two year old needle. IYKWIM ;)
No I haven't heard of any such reports after the 4 year old needle.
I believe it 'may' be a trigger too. I was wondering if there is any stories where there 4 year old vax possibly 'triggered' autism or of all the claims to this were after the two year old needle. IYKWIM
I have heard lots of stories. In books I have read.
Read a book called 'Just a Little Prick' by Hilary Butler.
HoopDeeDoo
11-02-2009, 13:03
I took my son for his four year old imms yesterday Like you I was anxious about it and had been putting them off
My GP told me that the man who started the whole debate in England has been charged because the 'evidence' he had in regards to autism being triggered by the MMR vax was all fabricated
I don't believe the MMR vaccine has anything to do with autism, it's just a co incidence that autism is usually detected at the same age that they get the vaccine.
I was worried about the 4 year old imms because my son is not a baby any more, and was worried he would get upset by them
But he was fine. He didn't cry, he told me they hurt, but he got a freddo frog and a jelly bean, and he was fine. And he's excited he is now ready for school
All my jobs over the last 5 years have involved giving vaccines to children and I have never had any child have a serious reaction - I have seen much worse with Penicillin and that's what I am worried about giving my DD for the frst time when it comes. There is a strict, national process so that if a vaccine does cause a reaction we are made aware of it ASAP. There is a thread going on regarding the autism/vaccine link and the Dr that did that study ( the one and only study) - he might loose his practicing liscence over it. Have a look in there for more information ( don't know how to put the link but it is under the "Andrew Wakefield fixes Austism Data thread" )and there is heaps on the net at the moment becasue the trial is coming to a close pretty soon.
If you're 50/50. Don't do it.
Get them done when you have fully researched and are 100% comfortable.
You can't take back a vaccination once it is administered.
:iagree: Although....I don't think I will ever be 100% comfortable with our decision....it is something I need to keep researching allllll the time to make sure we are making the best choices....I would say we are 95% sure :yes:
Aquamarine
13-02-2009, 15:43
My concerns don't have anything to do with Dr Wakefield. My concerns have always been the stories from mothers out there that just 'know' their child was different after.
I believe 'mothers instinct' over scientific data any day.
That is the anecdotal 'evidence' that concerns me.
That is why I don't feel quite right just yet.
Maybe I will maybe I won't, will just wait and see after I read up and study further. ;)
SpottySocks
13-02-2009, 16:03
Have you had all the previous immunisations? If so why are you more worried about these one's? Did you notice any change in behaviour with the other immunisations - if so then maybe I'd be concerned now, if not then it will probably be fine. But saying that it has to be your decision and something that you are quite comfortable doing.
From what I have heard and read it is the younger vaccinations that people tend to be worried about in regards to autism etc.
Goodluck with your decision!
My concerns don't have anything to do with Dr Wakefield. My concerns have always been the stories from mothers out there that just 'know' their child was different after.
I believe 'mothers instinct' over scientific data any day.
That is the anecdotal 'evidence' that concerns me.
That is why I don't feel quite right just yet.
Maybe I will maybe I won't, will just wait and see after I read up and study further. ;)
I feel exactly the same....it is the real life stories that count IMO :yes:
Aquamarine
13-02-2009, 17:39
Have you had all the previous immunisations? If so why are you more worried about these one's? Did you notice any change in behaviour with the other immunisations - if so then maybe I'd be concerned now, if not then it will probably be fine. But saying that it has to be your decision and something that you are quite comfortable doing.
From what I have heard and read it is the younger vaccinations that people tend to be worried about in regards to autism etc.
Goodluck with your decision!
I do have a few concerns with some of his development including his speech and understanding and I am just a little concerned that it could set him back even further.
I don't believe it had anything to do with his previous shots at all. I just have hesitations as I am already concerned enough and don't want to add to my concerns.
I feel I have delayed it long enough, but am still not 100% yet so that is why I will wait a little while more. IYKWIM
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