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Craftymum

08-02-2009, 08:37

Hi Ladies,

How are we all doing on this fine Sunday?? :)

Kaz - Did you have fun scrapping last night? yOu'll have to msn me your creation!

Meg - Click clack click clack - bet there is smoke coming off those needles :laughing: Hope you caught the egg too!

Alana - Off to peek at your chart :)

Debi - Hope your having a lovely time with DH and he is feeling better.... did you go check out the new neighbourhood?

Kez - :wave:

:wave: to anyone I missed

Luckily here in Melbourne we are having a spell of relief with an odd thunderstorm and some showers so it has cooled down a little after our very hot day yesterday!

We went out to dinner last night with Sarah and just as I suspected she was a handful! So looks like restaurants are still off the cards with her till she is a bit older. We'll make a connieseur diner out of her soon!

Off to my mums & grandparents for a cuppa today and will then do a tad of knitting - but not as much as you Meg :laughing:

Craftymum

08-02-2009, 08:39

Alana - Charts still looking good!

ringneck

08-02-2009, 09:18

Lisa how'd you go with the clomid this cycle?
Sarah is still little am sure when she's older she'll be only half a handful lol
not sure how reliable temp was this morning i barely slept last night.

Kaz how long now till your u/s? bet you can't wait to see that little heartbeat.

AFM have a 1 yr old birthday party today so that should be fun we're taking ebony with us she's at our house this weekend so that'll give her something to do.

XavysMummy

08-02-2009, 10:10

Kaz - Did you have fun scrapping last night? yOu'll have to msn me your creation!

I had a great scrappin' day yesterday, I did 5 pages. I've added 2 of them to the crafty social group, I'll have to take pics of the other pages.

I'm sure Sarah will start to enjoy "the finer things in life" as she gets older :D

Kaz how long now till your u/s? bet you can't wait to see that little heartbeat.

2 more sleeps till the U/S....I'm scared and excited... I'm really hoping and praying that we'll see a heartbeat...

Today I think it will more of the same as yesterday, scrapping....maybe some knitting...:flowerz:

keziah

08-02-2009, 10:19

Hey Craftymum/Kaz/Ringneck and all other yummy mummy/soon to be mummies!! :yes: Oh and Meg (yup in Sydney Meg).

Rotten head yesterday, feeling a lot brighter and ready to take on this mth. As a lot of you ladies would know the long cycles knock you around and bring your spirits down. I guess being 40 now also plays on your mind and that's our fault for believing as soon as we wanted to have a family that it would just flow.

Don't get me wrong, I don't regret my path in life, it's been nothing short of amazing and I wouldn't trade that for the world but it would be nice to fall preggers before the end of this yr. Anyway you lovely ladies, stay cool (or dry) depending where you are. Off to enjoy this sacred Sunday. Mwahhhh:kiss:

PS: Kaz, I'm sending lots of good vibes your way for the big U/S. Wave to your little one from us all n'kay!!

Craftymum

08-02-2009, 11:59

Lisa how'd you go with the clomid this cycle?
ALana, enjoy the birthday party!
Clomid was good this cycle, a few headaches - not as bad as last cycle. Seems I might be ovulating earlier tho this one... am at CD12 and have a nearly positive OPK :confused: not sure if that is good on Clomid or not?? I thought Clomid was suppose to delay ovulation so you got a nice ripe follie so not really sure on that one...

I had a great scrappin' day yesterday, I did 5 pages. I've added 2 of them to the crafty social group, I'll have to take pics of the other pages.

I'm sure Sarah will start to enjoy "the finer things in life" as she gets older :D
Oh Woo hoo! I'll go have a peek! Enjoy your day today doing more! I think I might get into Making sarah's birthday lollie bags whilst she naps.

Keziah - Glad your feeling a lot better today, horrible when damn cycles get in the way of us feeling good hey. :hugs:

keziah

08-02-2009, 12:15

[quote=Craftymum;3483420]ALana, enjoy the birthday party!
Clomid was good this cycle, a few headaches - not as bad as last cycle. Seems I might be ovulating earlier tho this one... am at CD12 and have a nearly positive OPK :confused: not sure if that is good on Clomid or not?? I thought Clomid was suppose to delay ovulation so you got a nice ripe follie so not really sure on that one...

Clomid stimulates Ovaries to produce follicles and Ovulation. It should improve or induce ovulation, not delay it. Hope this info helps....xxx

Clomid is the medication Clomiphene (http://www.amazingpregnancy.com/pregnancy-articles/268.html#) citrate. It is a hormone used to induce ovulation, to correct irregular ovulation, to increase egg production and to correct a condition known as luteal phase deficiency. Clomid is typically taken in doses from 59 mg to 200 mg, and taken for 5-9 days. Clomid is among the most inexpensive fertility drugs. It is easily taken (orally rather than by injection) and it is the first line drug used for ovulation induction in patients with PCOS and other ovulatory disorders. It has been used for patients with luteal phase defect. It can also be used to assess ovarian reserve (the likelihood that a woman's ovaries can still produce viable eggs). Clomid is not useful for women whose ovaries have reached the end of their working life.

Clomid (http://www.amazingpregnancy.com/pregnancy-articles/268.html#) is a potent and complicated medication. Clomid is reacts with all of the tissues in the body that have estrogen receptors, such as the hypothalamus, pituitary, ovary, endometrium, vagina, and cervix. Clomid influences the way that the four hormones required for ovulation, GnRH, FSH, LH and estradiol, relate and interrelate. While we do not completely understand the mechanisms by which this drug works, in essence it appears that Clomid fools the body into believing that the estrogen level is low. This altered feedback information causes the hypothalamus (an area of the brain) to make and release more gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH) which in turn causes the pituitary to make and release more FSH and LH. More follicle stimulating hormone and more luteinizing hormone should result in the release of one or more mature eggs - ovulation.

Just as women's bodies are so different from one another, their reactions to Clomid vary tremendously. Some women have virtually no side effects. Others do, but they are more frequently related to emotions. Side effects may include mood swings, hot flashes, breast tenderness, and thinning of the uterine lining. About 10 percent of those who use Clomid will have a multiple pregnancy (http://www.amazingpregnancy.com/pregnancy-articles/268.html#) (twins).

Craftymum

08-02-2009, 13:27

megB74

08-02-2009, 13:42

Hey girls,

Seriously - this weather, it may as well be raining because this heat just leaves you hiding indoors anyways.

Yep - still clacking...will get some pics up soon.

Kez? Heck I'll be 35 this year and have the same thoughts!

ringneck

08-02-2009, 15:14

Lisa hmm don't think oing early would be a bad thing as long as you don't spot.
Birthday party was good poor little thing was so overwhelmed she cried for most of it.

Kaz am sending positive sticky strong heartbeat vibes your way :goodvibes: :goodvibes: :goodvibes: i'd tell you not to worry but that would be an impossible task so just try not to stress too much will be thining of you.

Meg the heat here is horrid in town at our place is good though. Just stay inside and knit away.

Kez i have everything crossed it's your month glad your head sin't giving you grief today.

Debi how are you? how's the weekend been?

AFM cd21 bt tomorrow wont bother calling tuesday for results cause i see the dr on wednesday anyway.

Craftymum

08-02-2009, 19:22

Alana - Poor little mite, Sarah was mightly overwhelmed at her 1st birthday too!
Goodluck tomorrow for your BT, fingers crossed it shows a nice high progesterone level on Weds for you.

Well my OPK is a half positive so I think I'll get my positive sometime tomorrow :goodvibes:

clmtao

09-02-2009, 08:24

Morning all.

Wow I can't keep up with all these posts. I miss a few days and there is a whole new thread lol.

Craftymum - Thanks for your encouragement re. my potential implantation dip. My temps have continued to go up so :fingerscrossed: they don't come down again. BTW my name is Christine.

I hope you all had a great weekend. :babydust2: to all.

ringneck

09-02-2009, 08:30

Christine :fingerscrossed: your temps stay nice and high how long do you have till af is due?

Craftymum

09-02-2009, 08:37

Christine - Thats fantastic, fingers crossed for you! Are you charting??

keziah

09-02-2009, 14:22

Keziah - Thanks for the info, its an interesting drug isnt it! Definately plays with my emotions on day 3! Fingers crossed it does the trick though.
I had a peek at your charts and noticed that you've taken it before and also use the maybe baby tester. I also use the MB tester, dont find it overly reliable so am doing the opks as well. Are you currently seeing an FS, or just seeing how things go? Sorry if you've already posted this and I've missed it :)

Oooh ooooh I spot a +OPK on ur chart, get busy guuurrrrlllll hehehe

Woz under a FS for a while, we did a few rounds of Clomid, sent me literally 'insane' emotionally, couldn't cope sooooooooo they wanted to do IUI next, not ready for that so cancelled appoint. Just gathering thoughts and energy for this yr and how we will tackle things. I want to believe my body can do this on its own....(I mean I have fallen pg) if nothing this yr will seriously consider IVF next yr.

But maybe some more holistic methods need to be explored like Acupuncture etc. I am a Naturopath afterall and have successfully assisted other infertile couples, just can't seem to fix my own lightbulbs...:laughing: Believe me I have tried, herbs, supplements, diet....

I think emotions play a big part so going to work a lot on that. Got quite caught up with the whole TTC thing last yr after our M/C and want to .....oh god here comes that word everyone throws at you oh so casually, R-E-L-A-X.....:laughing::laughing: more in my approach...

Wot about you lovely lady? xxx

logiesmummy

09-02-2009, 14:48

DUM DUM de DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM!!!! (scarey music)

Well MY dear lovely ladies i'm out for another month af just arried so tourtered my body (have already doen a one hour pump class) and did 65 minutes on my wii fit! It will pay for not ding what its supposed to! I will also be starting back on my bike tonight!! Blasted AF!

Craftymum

09-02-2009, 15:50

Keziah - LOL yes and it was a beauty opk too! Thanks Kaz (hopefully their lucky!) ;) We should be getting busy tonight but we are on an every 2nd night rule -works best for us and tonight is suppose to be our night off! Will have to see if we can fit one extra special one in though hey!
Well my story in a nutshell is came off the pill, conceived DD in 6 weeks, had a great pregnancy. AF returned when she was 4 months old, started TTC#2 from there on (nearly 20 months ago). Have had absolutely no luck, and no reasons why. Nice regular cycles, ovulate nice and early, great LP of 15 days.... I spot from about 7dpo though so had a laparoscopy/tubalpat/D&C to see if anything, nothing.... so basically I am a healthy nearly 35 yo ovulating women who has had a child before and cant conceive the 2nd.... Was referred off to IVF Specialist who wants us to do IVF when we are ready as he sees no reason why its not happening. So we are doing Clomid in the mean time for a few months till we are at that point to commit.... in the hope it just gives us better egg quality and does the trick. Gosh that was a big nutshell hey :laughing:

Debi - :hugs: my lovely. Stupid witch!

mrmoosmum

09-02-2009, 16:19

Finally have a computer and the worlds slowest internet again.

Debi - sorry to hear AF arrived.

Crafty - good luck egg catching - I'm sure you could squeeze in a lucky catching session tonight.

Kaz - will be thinking of you tomorrow.

Kez - welcome. My story (in a big nutshell) is tried for ages to make DS, then had acupuncture and fell the following month, lost them, then fell a few months later which made my gorgeous little boy. Didn't use any protection after he was born and have officially been trying for over a year now (he is now 2). Have had another couple of miscarriages this year too.

Hello to everyone else - I didn't try reading back through the original thread as this internet is so slow.

AFM - my herbs are definitely having an effect - I ended up o'ing on CD10 which is unheard of for me. Sadly that happened when DH was in Brissie while I was up in Moresby. I'm not giving up this month though - I think the herbs might be making me O more than once as my OPKs went back to negative and they are climbing again. He said that could happen.

clmtao

09-02-2009, 16:23

Ringneck - I only have a 12 day LP so I am due on Thurs. I will probably give it till Fri and if AF hasn't shown up I will be POAS till the cows come home.

Craftymum - Yes I am charting...and obsessively stalking other peoples charts as well lol. My LP temps usually form an upsidedown semi circle pattern but so far (10 DPO) they are more like a diagonal line going up from left to right (with the exception of the one temp dip at 7 DPO). I totally agree with Keziah...I think tonight warrants a special BD session...you don't want that eggie sitting there by its lonesome ;)

Keziah - You crack me up with your R-E-L-A-X comment. I swear I will smack the next person who tells me that I just need to relax and it will happen. My FS even said that for me to be stressing too much to fall pregnant I would not be having AF. And seeing as though she always shows, I guess I am plenty relaxed.

:hugs: for you logiesmummy.

Baldie's Mum

09-02-2009, 16:32

:wave: Everyone!

Still hanging around. After my last BFN (only happened on wednesday) DH and i have decided that we will stay at westmead IVF for 1 more fresh cycle, then if nothing happens after that, we will be going to sydney IVF. I am happy at westmead but having 2 chem pregs and all the rest BFN's i am just thinking about mixing it up a bit ect.......DH was very very angry after the last cycle failed, but he has calmed down now. He is still very sensitive and a bit sad, but he is doing okay.

So, how is everyone else going???
:hugs:

megB74

09-02-2009, 17:54

Feel like have chased tail all day - one of those days where you run around all day then feel like you haven't actually achieved anything??

Relax - gawd! Whats that?

ringneck

09-02-2009, 18:03

Christine good luck then i hope af doesn't show i have a 13 day lp.

Lisa get busy, are you and Kaz ok the fires aren't near you are they?

Meg i had one of those days too.

Debi :hugs: sorry af arrived

Kaz good luck with your u/s tomorrow

Craftymum

09-02-2009, 19:01

Alana - I am fine thanks, the fires are about a 20 - 30 min drive from my house so close but not close enough to be in any danger. Its so sad, a lot of the areas are places that DH rides or places we go for drives. It is just so sad, over 130 deaths :no:.

ringneck

09-02-2009, 19:04

Lisa i know it's horrible i hope the ahole who started the fires is strung up we've been watching the coverage of the fires just crying so many deaths and the people who have lost everything not to mention the animals that would of died too.
Am very relieved to hear you're safe.

Craftymum

09-02-2009, 19:44

Alana - Thanks, its just tragic.

Craftymum

09-02-2009, 20:02

Von - Sorry forgot your post :D, bummer about O'ing when DH wasnta around, but thats great for your LP :yelclap:. Fingers crossed you get another turn this month when DH is around.

CLMTAO - Ooo your chart sounds interesting and promising! :fingerscrossed:

Alana - Your chart is lookin good!

XavysMummy

09-02-2009, 21:56

Hi ladies,
I'm here....little smokey but here....ok so far... we had no internet at work today and the power went out a couple of times....the fires came within about 2-3km of my work today, we were on 'alert' all day. I felt like we shouldnt be there....half our staff were away due to the fires being so close to their homes. One of our staff members front fence burnt down, so they evacuated but at the moment his house is still standing.....very scary.....so many losses and such terrible heartache....

AFM~I am quietly freaking out about tomorrow's scan, I went off at Dh b4 he went to bed...cos I've been bottling it up all day (the last 3wks if I'm honest). My mum came over and was talking very positively about it all...and I said to her.... I know its terrible but I just can't see things going well tomorrow as the last 2 times I got to 7wks, the scan didnt go well.

Sorry to talk pregnancy in here girls, but if its any consolation, I'm pretending I'm not pregnant....something to do with self-preservation...:o

Good night

Kaz

greenapple

10-02-2009, 02:26

Kazc - I have everything croseed (except for my legs:laughing:) I hope your scan shows a healthy and progressing pregnancy

AFM - Ringneck I re-discovered this thread, had not been checking back since my first visit for some unknown reason but anyway I am back now!!

First cycle of IUI starts next month, CD4 - CD8 on Clomid (normal regular cycle) once AF arrives this month I will get in contact with our FS and get full directions and set up all appointments that need to be made to get this next cycle happening.

I am also in the process of being put on the public waiting list for a laparascopy to check for endo, however in the mean time a few cycles of IUI can't hurt ... once the results from the IUI are back we will be able to obtain what's the next best step ..

So for us our new TTC journey is begining:fingerscrossed:

Craftymum

10-02-2009, 06:47

Kaz - My dear friend....... Will be thinking of you today and sending all the positive vibes I can your way that your bubba isnt too shy and gives you that heartbeat you so desire and deserve. Hang in there, you have done so well and tonight i am praying you can celebrate :hugs:.

Greenapple - Goodluck with the IUI :fingerscrossed:

AFM - Looks like I will ovulate today (or late yesterday) OPK yesterday was so dark. Unfort couldnt get busy last night as both DD and I seem to have come down with a cold but fingers crossed for tonight otherwise it will be a void cycle :rolleyes:

clmtao

10-02-2009, 07:04

Kaz - No doubt you will see your beautiful baby today and all will be perfect. Let us know how you go. Don't worry about talking pregnancy in here...I for one love hearing all about the journey and am glad one of us is experiencing this wonderful thing.

Greenapple - Welcome back and best of luck with IUI.

AFM - My temp was still up this morning. I can hardly breathe thinking that this might be my month.

ringneck

10-02-2009, 08:13

Kaz good luck today sweetie, our brains are programed to prepare for the worst so don't beat yourself up about it just imagine how overjoyed you will be once you see that heartbeat :hugs:
I hope you remain safe with these horrible fires.

Lisa that's no good hope you're feeling better tonight so you can bd. How are the fires near you? stay safe.

Greenapple welcome back, yay for IUI can't hurt and could be just the thing you need fingers crossed

clmtao good luck your chart is sounding promising i have everything crossed for you.

Meg how are you going? hope you caught the egg what dpo are you now?

Debi i hope af is treating you well and buggers off soon :hugs:

AFM had a nice temp rise this morning only 4 days till af is due and no spotting yet which is great.

logiesmummy

10-02-2009, 08:41

Thanks alana! I hope she does to! I hate her at the moment! How funny my cycles were always out of wack and i always wanted it to be on time and in a proper cycle and now i just wish it woud f off and not come back for nine months!!! Oh i am secrestly getting very excited for you your chart is looking very positive!!!

clmtao

10-02-2009, 08:42

AFM had a nice temp rise this morning only 4 days till af is due and no spotting yet which is great.

Sounds promising....when do you plan on testing? We might get :bfp: together. I am due on Thurs and plan on testing on Fri if AF hasn't shown up.

keziah

10-02-2009, 08:50

Kaz we can't wait to hear the fantabulous news that u saw ur little mung bean on screen and that there was a lovely strong heartbeat.

Of course we don't mind you discussing your pg. You have inspired a lot of women with your spirit and strength. You DESERVE this little miracle.

GO KAZ GO KAZ GO KAZ....thinkin of you:goodvibes::goodvibes:

Hey Ringneck, yup everything except legs x'd for you :yes:

ringneck

10-02-2009, 09:34

Debi it's always the way isn't it i swear our bodies have minds of their own sometimes.
clmtao i wont poas will wait see if af arrives on Sat and if not will get a bt on Monday.

BabyJoy

10-02-2009, 10:14

Hi ladies! :wave:
Maybe it's PMT hormones combined with the horrors on television but I have been extremely teary for the past three days. I've been crying at the drop of a hat. The fires, the little boy taken by crocodile... just too many horrible things are happening this week. :crying:

Arianrhod, good luck with the next round of IVF... I was really shocked to read how young you are to be going through such a stressful procedure. I hope this time you get a BFP!

Oooh ooooh I spot a +OPK on ur chart, get busy guuurrrrlllll hehehe

Woz under a FS for a while, we did a few rounds of Clomid, sent me literally 'insane' emotionally, couldn't cope sooooooooo they wanted to do IUI next, not ready for that so cancelled appoint. Just gathering thoughts and energy for this yr and how we will tackle things. I want to believe my body can do this on its own....(I mean I have fallen pg) if nothing this yr will seriously consider IVF next yr.

But maybe some more holistic methods need to be explored like Acupuncture etc. I am a Naturopath afterall and have successfully assisted other infertile couples, just can't seem to fix my own lightbulbs... Believe me I have tried, herbs, supplements, diet....

I think emotions play a big part so going to work a lot on that. Got quite caught up with the whole TTC thing last yr after our M/C and want to .....oh god here comes that word everyone throws at you oh so casually, R-E-L-A-X..... more in my approach...

Wot about you lovely lady? xxx

Keziah, I can completely relate to your story. My FS (and the nurses) were so pushy. After two cycles of clomid they made the decision for us to do IUI. There was no consultation or further investigations... I was just told "right, this is what you're doing next". It just didn't feel right at all... at least not right now. So DH and I are getting acupuncture and I'm taking chinese medicine and going to give it another 3 months with more holistic treatments. I also believe stress is a big factor... I had a horrendous year in 2008 working too much and the stress was probably the reason why we didn't conceive. I'm far more relaxed about it now. Have stopped temping and I'm just going with the flow... I'm sure I'll get my BFP when the time is right... and I'm sure you will too!

BTW, the person who tells me to relax the most is my DH!!! AAARRRGH!

Kaz, I'm thinking of you and sending you good baby vibes! :goodvibes: Best of luck!

Greenapple, good luck with IUI... can I ask what tests you've had done before taking this next step? I'm just wondering what makes a couple a good candidate for IUI... it's just that our FS didn't really do much investigation before pushing us in that direction.

Lisa, hope you are feeling better today! Good luck catching that egg!

Alana, this is it - this is your month!!! :babydust2: Babydust all round!

Von, sounds like your herbs are going well.. are yours in a fluid form to mix with juice? I am wondering if mine are doing me more harm than good... although I've had no bad side effects. I've spent ages googling the ingredients and it all seems okay, but there's still a niggling thought that maybe it's going to cause more dramas in the long term. I think I'm feeling paranoid today!

Sorry to anyone else I've missed... but I hope everyone is well.
And for all those in Victoria... stay safe! I hope you are not under threat of fire... I can't imagine how scary it must be for so many people.

mrmoosmum

10-02-2009, 15:02

Hello lovelies

Kaz - have everything crossed for (although like some others plans to uncross legs this evening). Discuss pregnancy all you want - its fine by me.

Shannon - I used to get dried herbs that I'd boil up but this time I'm getting capsules from this guy (easier to get through customs). He treats lots of people going through Brissie QFG and it is fine to use his herbs in conjunction with the Western drugs.

Lisa - hope you feel better this evening. Migh be time to 'take one for the team'.

Alana and clm - things are sounding promising for you both.

Greenapple - good luck with the iui - hopefully you can get off the waiting list for the lap as you get pregnant beforehand.

Arianhod - hope the next cycle goes well. I can't imagine it but it must be so tough emotionally.

As for me, OPK yesterday was very negative, but am starting to see some CM changes again so will keep the BDing up just in case. Not holding out too much hope for this cycle though. Will probably go with DH next month if I think it will be at O time and am also planning on seeing my FS if I can. We were going to wait until midyear to start fertility treatment but I'm sick of the waiting - at least want to look at clomid or something. That will still give the herbs 3-4 months.

keziah

10-02-2009, 18:46

[quote=BabyJoy;3488763]Hi ladies! :wave:
Maybe it's PMT hormones combined with the horrors on television but I have been extremely teary for the past three days. I've been crying at the drop of a hat. The fires, the little boy taken by crocodile... just too many horrible things are happening this week. :crying:

Keziah, I can completely relate to your story. My FS (and the nurses) were so pushy. After two cycles of clomid they made the decision for us to do IUI. There was no consultation or further investigations... I was just told "right, this is what you're doing next". It just didn't feel right at all... at least not right now. So DH and I are getting acupuncture and I'm taking chinese medicine and going to give it another 3 months with more holistic treatments. I also believe stress is a big factor... I had a horrendous year in 2008 working too much and the stress was probably the reason why we didn't conceive. I'm far more relaxed about it now. Have stopped temping and I'm just going with the flow... I'm sure I'll get my BFP when the time is right... and I'm sure you will too!

BTW, the person who tells me to relax the most is my DH!!! AAARRRGH!

Hey there, so great to hear from you and get this information. I was beginning to think I was bagging out our FS and was the only one with that experience. It wasn't that she wasn't lovely and all of that, it was just like you, no more investigations, just straight into signing up for IUI and that's why I wondered if we should seek out a general gyno who does not have, how should I say this, a financial interest in your fertility. I mean they are simply looking at the box (scuse me :laughing::laughing:). But seriously, I think they might investigate things further before shunting us onto the next step. So good to hear about someone else's journey with TCM (Trad Chinese Med). How are you feeling, has it helped you (ie regulated your cycle, improved O, CM anything?). What about the acupuncture. Sorry for all the questions.

Hi to everyone else, how are we all doing, anyone heard from our Kaz???

keziah

10-02-2009, 18:53

Babyjoy, I know wot you mean about the temping and charting etc, I have been thinking about throwing that in for a while. Just keep 'putting it off'. I used to be all for it as it gives you so much brilliant info but then that 'obsessiveness' creeps in and I think, like you said, stress can play a big part as even tho you are empowered as a woman charting and understanding your body you're also constantly checking, comparing, looking into every little twinge/ache/symptom....I'm sure I am just saying out loud what a lot of charters think. I still believe it's a great tool but then when does the tool turn into something more. Hmmmmm food for thought....I loved being in Surfers the other wk and NOT charting but then when I came back and had a 40 day cycle I thought, oh crap, I'm not sure exactly when I O. :ecomcity::ecomcity::ecomcity: hehehe

Thanx for sharing your journey and yes, we WILL get our BFP's!!!:yelclap: Dagnammit!!!

XavysMummy

10-02-2009, 20:53

Hi Ladies,
Thanks for thinking of me.....the scan went.....better than expected... for the first time in my life EVER I saw a heartbeat on the screen:cloud9:....bub is measuring 4days smaller than it should be but Doc wasn't concerned.

Got my HCG results today and they are all good (I think)
4wks 65
5wks 1540
6wks 8890
7wks 29800

Meet Chickpea (http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/album.php?albumid=678&pictureid=3543)

mrmoosmum

10-02-2009, 21:07

CONGRATULATIONS KAZ!!!

That is fantastic news - good work chickpea :yelclap:

keziah

10-02-2009, 21:29

Wooooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooo nice to meet you chickpea, take care of ur mama!!!

XavysMummy

10-02-2009, 21:48

Thanks Kez & Von:cloud9:

BabyJoy

10-02-2009, 22:36

Hi again!
Kez, you're not the only one! My impression of the fertility clinic is that they are first and foremost a business. Money comes first, making babies comes second. I really felt like they were treating me as some vulnerable and desperate woman who would do anything (ie. hand over all of my money) to have a baby. While I know that their procedures are truly remarkable and there are many successes, I guess the whole approach towards us as patients was just wrong.
As for TCM, I have only been taking it for almost two weeks, so haven't really noticed anything yet. AF has been and gone in that time too, so I'm really going to go for it this cycle. Acupuncture is booked for both DH and I on day 14 (right before ovulation), and I've also been shown how to do femeral massage (not sure if I've spelt that correct), but it assists in getting good blood flow through the uterus. I have poor circulation (which is in part related to my RA as I also get Raynaud's phenomenon).

As for temping... I quit temping as part of my destressing shortly before Christmas. I was really having a nervous breakdown to be honest. It was not brought on by charting, but due to working two jobs and still trying to be a good mum and wife. I decided to look after myself for a change, instead of trying to look after everyone else. Part of that was to stop worrying about TTC. I went for a massage every fortnight, I quit one of my jobs, I started spending more quality time with my family, and doing things I have wanted to do for ages (like knitting, sewing, visiting friends). I even saw a psychologist for a while to nut out my "iss-ewes"!
I thought that if I stopped temping I would never be able to figure out when I'm ovulating, but I'm really surprised at how easy it is when you start listening to your body. There's a fascinating (yet somewhat graphic) website called "my beautiful cervix" which shows you what happens to the cervix during a cycle, and that has helped me a bit because before I never had a clue where my cervix was. I also use OPKs just to make sure I'm on track. My natural cycle isn't too erratic, so I know that if we BD every second day from day 12 to 18, we'll get it eventually! And the only reason I remember what day I'm at in my cycle, is by only remembering the date of day 1.

Kaz, terrific news! Love seeing the scan... I remember how excited I was when DD was 6 weeks - don't stress now - just revel in it! It's truly magical! :goodvibes:

clmtao

11-02-2009, 06:58

Kaz - Congratulations!! :yelclap: Keep on growing Chickpea!!

I find charting to be essential coz I previously had such random cycles that I never knew when I O'd. I never get any signs from my body, no pains or CM (well not that I can tell anyway). Saying that, I can completely understand that it makes you obsessed. I am constantly checking my chart lol. My DH has learnt that he is not allowed to touch me in the morning until I have taken my temp...he is not too happy about that :laughing:

I hope you all have a great day.

Craftymum

11-02-2009, 07:34

Kaz - Woo hoo for Chickpea! I am so so happy for you :smiliedance:. Now get excited gal and relish in it! :goodvibes::cloud9:

ALana - Goodluck today hun with your appointment, cant wait to hear how it all goes :fingerscrossed:

Re the temping, gosh I tried many a time to give it up, but I have to say I am slightly addicted to taking my temp :o.... I have a love hate relationship with it... Love to see it, hate taking it and cant wait to be UTD so I dont have to :laughing:

Well I went to Yoga last night to try and relax a little given it was ovulation day..... not sure about the relaxation but I came out motion sick! gosh has anyone else suffered it from yoga?

XavysMummy

11-02-2009, 09:00

Thanks for the well wishes, call me annoying but I am still not celebrating....give me 2wks when I have another scan at 9wks and if all is well then I will feel more confident...:goodvibes:

BTW~found out I released 2 eggs (like last time UTD) but only one fertilised....so it could have been twins! :D

mrmoosmum

11-02-2009, 09:14

Crafty - I never felt motion sick from yoga but have had amazing highs. The positions can release toxins (including those from prescription and non prescription meds) stored in your fat cells so that could have been the cause. Hope you were nice and relaxed for your BD session last night.

Kaz - you celebrate whenever you're ready - your feelings are totally understandable. With DS I saw a HB at 7 weeks and him wriggle at 10 weeks but didn't really get too excited until 12 weeks - more just hopeful and wanting the weeks to speed up.

Christine - I know you've probably just mentioned it, but when is testing day?

I'm not a charter - its the type of thing I could get really obsessed with too, but DS keeps running off with the thermometer if I leave it by the bed and I keep forgetting. I think CM observations backed up by some OPKS for confirmation is enough for me, and we BD pretty frequently.

clmtao

11-02-2009, 09:27

Christine - I know you've probably just mentioned it, but when is testing day?

I keep changing my mind on when I want to test. AF is due tomorrow so theoretically I could probably test today but I really would like to tell DH on Valentine's day (how's that for thinking positive). I just don't think I could keep it from him for 3 days so I will probably get up early and test on Sat.

On a side note, I was looking through the Toys R Us catalogue and they have a really good special on a Bruin Colonial package. It comes with a 3 in 1 cot, change table and an innerspring mattress. All for only $499.98 (down from $1,099.98). Has anyone heard any reviews of this brand? I tried googling but got no good info. Do you guys think that it would be worth buying and just keeping in storage for when I might need it? Trying to think positive again :laughing:

keziah

11-02-2009, 09:42

Kaz - Woo hoo for Chickpea! I am so so happy for you :smiliedance:. Now get excited gal and relish in it!

ALana - Goodluck today hun with your appointment, cant wait to hear how it all goes :fingerscrossed:

Re the temping, gosh I tried many a time to give it up, but I have to say I am slightly addicted to taking my temp :o.... I have a love hate relationship with it... Love to see it, hate taking it and cant wait to be UTD so I dont have to :laughing:

Well I went to Yoga last night to try and relax a little given it was ovulation day..... not sure about the relaxation but I came out motion sick! gosh has anyone else suffered it from yoga?

Hey Craftymum,

As a Yoga Instructor I hear this a lot and have experienced it myself. Sometimes if you have been in postures where your head is lower than your heart you can rise too quickly and feel dizzy. If you have BP irregularities (ie too low/too high) this too can cause your symptoms. Also eating or drinking too close to class time and even taking in all that extra beautiful oxygen as our bodies learn to breathe 'properly' can shock the body.

Also on a more energetic level it is opening chakras (our energy centres) and releasing toxins/emotions etc. I have had people come out of backbends for instance and break down in tears. It's a process. Keep at it and enjoy, Yoga is a way of life rather than an exercise and you will reap the rewards and it will not only benefit you but those around you as they draw on your good energy. You are not alone with your symptoms I promise.

Oh and also if you have had a recent cold/virus, mucous congestion can affect our equlibrium and cause dizzy motion-sick feelings. Also people with ear probs can feel out of sorts.

Hope this helps. NAMASTE :hugs:

XavysMummy

11-02-2009, 10:00

On a side note, I was looking through the Toys R Us catalogue and they have a really good special on a Bruin Colonial package. It comes with a 3 in 1 cot, change table and an innerspring mattress. All for only $499.98 (down from $1,099.98). Has anyone heard any reviews of this brand? I tried googling but got no good info. Do you guys think that it would be worth buying and just keeping in storage for when I might need it? Trying to think positive again :laughing:

Hi Christine, I had a look at the catalogue online and it says Bruin is exclusive to Toys r Us, so that's why you can't find it anywhere, it is made for them. I think its a great deal and if I didnt already have my stuff would definitely go for the white package. Take it from me though, I bought all my nursery furniture when I was 6wks preg the first time and went on to miscarry that bub and another since....I'm not saying the same will happen to you but having that furniture for the past 2.5yrs in my house has been hard....I have kept the bedroom door closed as it serves as a constant reminder of what I don't have. Now that I am pregnant agian I want to sell everything I have and start again....a fresh start. Your taste may change....OR....like me....when you are pregnanct, you will want to go out and do the shopping (at 20wks for me this time) but its already done.

I should heed my own advice here....but there will always be another sale, this is not the only time they will have this package on special...

At the end of the day do what makes you comfortable...I'm just expressing my experience here :o

ringneck

11-02-2009, 10:38

Kaz chickpea is a cute little dot :smiliedance: so happy for you bet it was a relief to see that little heartbeat am sure after the 9w and 12w scans you will be able to relax.

XavysMummy

11-02-2009, 10:47

Kaz chickpea is a cute little dot :smiliedance: so happy for you bet it was a relief to see that little heartbeat am sure after the 9w and 12w scans you will be able to relax.

Thanks Alana:goodvibes:

clmtao

11-02-2009, 11:08

Your taste may change....OR....like me....when you are pregnanct, you will want to go out and do the shopping (at 20wks for me this time) but its already done.

I know what you mean and have decided to wait till their next sale (which should be in about 2 weeks if they stick to the same pattern...they always seem to be on sale). I guess I am just getting a bit excited that this is the first month that my chart is showing potential and I can't help myself. Imagine what I will be like when I am pregnant....heaven help the credit card balance :laughing:

Craftymum

11-02-2009, 12:06

Kaz � Oh wow, so close to having twins! Like Von said, you celebrate when you are ready to!
Von � Yeah fingers crossed yoga released the toxins that I needed to relax myself to fertilise that egg lol.
Christine � Sorry, cant help you re the recommendation on the baby stuff. I say if you like it and it�s a good deal, go for it!
Keziah � Thanks, I am just getting over a slight cold so that probably didn�t help like you mentioned. I felt rejuvenated after it though.
Well my OPK's are finally going down at 1-2dpo. Cant believe I've pretty much had 48 hours of positives!, and todays is half strength.... so fingers crossed I had a really nice high surge and my progesterone levels are nice and high for a sticky bub....

megB74

11-02-2009, 12:18

Hey girls - been quite frantic here of late, always the way! Still plodding along though...

Kaz - tis great, just great news! :yes:

XavysMummy

11-02-2009, 14:06

Kaz - tis great, just great news! :yes:

Thanks Meg....

Yeah Lisa...close to having twins....DH says maybe one was hiding and it will show its little self in 2 wks lol

megB74

11-02-2009, 14:16

Hahahaha he is a glutton for punishment!

ringneck

11-02-2009, 16:05

K well don't have to have tube removed as it is basically a solid mass so nothing will implant in there anyway, he'd like me to try another 2 natural cycles before moving onto anything else
he thinks our chances of falling pregnant are ok so am happy with that and I OVULATED ON MY OWN
i am so happy, he said it was a nice strong o too so if no af by monday am to have a bt but when i do fall pregnant will need constant monitoring and a scan straight away to see where it has implanted.

Craftymum

11-02-2009, 16:12

Alana - Fantastic news. Congrats on o'ing all by yourself!!!! And even better not having to have the tube remoeved..... BFP here you come!

ringneck

11-02-2009, 16:19

Lisa thanks i am so happy right now, i know it'll be a long road with ttc and then the actual pregnancy but my doctor is so positive it really lifts my spirits. We'll still have issues if i o on my right side but even every 2nd month being a chance at getting utd is better then one a year lol
How are you feeling today? is the cold passing?

clmtao

11-02-2009, 16:22

Alana - It's fantastic to hear such great news...O'ing by your self and getting to keep your tube. It sounds like you have a really great doctor. There's no stopping the :bfp: now!!

ringneck

11-02-2009, 16:31

Christine he is a great doctor, am lucky in a way that tube is solid or it would be removed which would take another month out of the ttc journey for us. How are your temps looking?

Craftymum

11-02-2009, 16:40

Alana - Its just fantastic news, now you can just relax and fingers crossed for a bfp very soon. My cold didnt eventuate to much thankfully..... Sarah is still a bit sooky, but is starting to sleep a tad better which is more harmonious for all!

ringneck

11-02-2009, 17:59

That's good nothing worse then being sick while little ones are, hope Sarah is feeling better soon.

plumptobump

11-02-2009, 18:27

Sorry to butt in girls, just wanted to see the outcome of Kaz's scan! Im so thrilled Kaz!!! Well done babe! A huge congrats! :hugs: :thumbsup: :yelclap:

clmtao

11-02-2009, 19:06

Christine he is a great doctor, am lucky in a way that tube is solid or it would be removed which would take another month out of the ttc journey for us. How are your temps looking?

Thats great news...every month counts.

My temp this morning was still up. I would have expected it to drop yesterday or today as AF is due tomorrow. Hopefully not just a long cycle. How are your's looking?

keziah

11-02-2009, 19:37

That's good nothing worse then being sick while little ones are, hope Sarah is feeling better soon.

Yahoo, whistles, claps , stomps feet....go ringneck. You can O from the same ovary or different ovaries, the fimbria simply sweep up the egg and that determines which tube the egg will move down, so some people O from the right Ovary but the left fimbria pick it up and take it down the opposite side. Drs often think that ovaries always O alternatively but no, not always so. It's a race of the dominant follicle under the influence of oestrogen. You go gal, this is fab news!! Many women fall preggers with one tube...bring on your BFP!:shakehands:

mrmoosmum

11-02-2009, 20:26

Alana - that is great news! I definitely ovulate more on one side.

Christine - sounds good - big :fingerscrossed: that you get off the rollercoaster in 3 days (I admire your self control!).

clmtao

11-02-2009, 20:33

Christine - sounds good - big :fingerscrossed: that you get off the rollercoaster in 3 days (I admire your self control!).

Thanks but it's not so much self control as it is no money to buy lots of tests :laughing: I don't want to waste any by testing too early.

XavysMummy

11-02-2009, 20:35

Sorry to butt in girls, just wanted to see the outcome of Kaz's scan! Im so thrilled Kaz!!! Well done babe! A huge congrats! :hugs: :thumbsup: :yelclap:

Thanks for popping in Britt....yeah so far so good....

Alana~ SO SO PLEASED to hear that you got some good news today...:fingerscrossed:

ringneck

11-02-2009, 20:57

Thanks ladies :hugs:

Kez that's interesting didn't know that, that just brightened my spirits even more :goodvibes:

Christine not long to go now :fingerscrossed: for you.

Lisa, Meg you two wouldn't be far off af now either good luck.

megB74

11-02-2009, 21:16

Craftymum

11-02-2009, 22:11

Lisa, Meg you two wouldn't be far off af now either good luck.
Unfortunately Meg and I couldnt align our bod's this cycle - we are 2 days apart lol! I am only 1dpo so wont be testing until around the 25th :fingerscrossed:

aprilbaby

11-02-2009, 22:39

Craftymum

12-02-2009, 07:06

aprilbaby - Welcome back, sorry to hear that you are still in this game and fingers crossed you will get your sticky bfp very soon :hugs:

clmtao

12-02-2009, 07:16

Hi Aprilbaby and welcome :wave:

I'm sorry that you now find yourself in this thread but you are with great company. All the girls are lovely and will surely be able to offer you heaps of support. Remember it is not over till AF shows so try and think positive thoughts. Are you charting at all?

Sending you lots of sticky :babydust2::babydust2::babydust2:

ringneck

12-02-2009, 08:07

Aprilbaby :hugs: sorry you had to join the roller coaster, i hope you wont be on it for too long. Good luck for the next day or two hope af stays away for you.

Lisa only 1dpo i thought you were further along for some reason, hope the 2ww flies by for you.

keziah

12-02-2009, 08:53

hi girls,

I'm new here, I hung out with the ttc #2 thread for a while but then took a break as I didn't wnat ttc to consume my whole life. I never dreamed I'd find myself getting as far as the ttc for 12 months group - but here I am.

I won't go into my whole story now, but just needed some moral support as af is due in the next day or so and I was feeling really positive but tonight I just have that feeling that af is coming so now I feel really flat.

I'm sure you can all relate to the feeling. After 14 cycles and 1 miscarriage I just don't know how I can keep going through this disappointment every month without going crazy.

Anyway, just wanted to be among people who know what I'm going through.

Hi there, just wanting to let you know that yup, you're not alone and it's definitely OK to feel bummed out sometimes. It can really bring u down, it just takes so much effort sometimes. I have made a 'vision' board which is in my bedroom and on it I have some lovely pics to inspire me, not just re having a bubba but dreams and ambitions, holiday destinations etc. It gives me something to strive for and helps distract me from the rollercoaster, altho don't worry, I have my 'moments'. :geek::gloomy::banghead::devil::confused:

At least you are in a safe environment here with very empathetic gorgy goyals with such amazing stories. It can get quite ignorant out there.....I guess people don't know what to say sometimes.

It's good to have a moment, as a dear friend once said....'when you feel it fully, you release it fully'. Thinkin of ya :hugs:

Craftymum

12-02-2009, 08:54

Ahem, someones chart is looking fabulous, Alana?? :D

ringneck

12-02-2009, 09:06

LOL Lisa i know am getting cramps though and last time i o'd chart was similar but got af, it has gotten my hopes up a bit though :fingerscrossed:

clmtao

12-02-2009, 09:58

Alana - I just had a look at your chart...looks awesome :fingerscrossed::goodvibes::babydust2: Do you have to be a paying member of FF to get a link to your chart? I track with them but only have the povo free membership. Isn't it strange how we all have different temperatures...I have never gotten to 36.8 let alone getting to 37.

aprilbaby

12-02-2009, 11:31

Thanks for the warm welcome girls. Hi again Crafty, sorry to see you here too.

I can always count on you bubhubbers to give such great support. It's quite amazing, all women from different walks of life, who probably have little in common outside of this, yet going through the TTC journey (and the motherhood journey) is such a uniting force that we all band together.

That's why if mothers ran the world it would be a very differnet place hey?!

Anyway, all hope is not lost. I thought I'd wake up to AF this morning but I didn't so I'm still hanging in there:yelclap:

I am now 9dpo and will test tomorrow. I have a very short luteal phase so have never made it 10dpo yet without getting AF so this is the closest I have ever come. I have been doing acupuncture and taking progesterone supps so together they have made me o earlier and increase the 2ww. How I'd love a 2WW! A few cycles ago I o'ed on day 18 and AF started on day 22, so you can imagine how frustrating it has been.

Although, going through 9 days with the torture of not knowing is equally frustating!! But I just have to get through one more day......

So, no offence, but hopefully it's a very, very short stay with all of you. :fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed::fingerscrossed:

keziah

12-02-2009, 11:59

megB74

12-02-2009, 12:19

Lol - Christene! I too have the "povo" free membership on FF, you can add your link to your sig here even with that. I couldn't justify keeping going on the paid one if am still here TTC? It is however currently assisting me with what day of the week it is!:laughing:

ringneck

12-02-2009, 13:10

Christine go to sharing, homepage setup, then copy and paste chart web address is up the top.

clmtao

12-02-2009, 15:00

Alana - Thank you so much :hugs: I think I managed to do it right.

Meg - :laughing: It's the only way I know what day it is too.

logiesmummy

12-02-2009, 15:39

Hey hey Laides,

Missed me?????

Lisa- Woohoo hopefully you caught the eggie this month!!

Alana - wow your chart is looking a little spiffo there.

Kaz - Lovely we are all here for you and when you are ready i will celebrate with you! I know how you are feeling. Bring on the next two weeks!! LOL about dh saying teh second one was hiding. Can't wait to hear all about your next scan!!

Aprilbaby - :wave: Hope your stay here is a short and sweet one!!

Hey megstar!! Hows the click clacking going???

Hello clmtao, Keziah, von, shannon and any one else i have forgotten.

Well AFM i am still just pottering away. Got all my books yesterday so started studying was up until 11 last night adn ws haveing panic attacks wondering how i am going to do it. I have also put my name down to volunteer for the red cross. Just waiting to hear back. I am cd4 and feeling quite good this moth and at ease with it all. I didn't even get upset with the fact af turned up. I think i am numb to it now! Still going to the gym every day and getting on the bike of a night in between studying and being a mum and wife so pretty busy household here. Especially since my dear little son thinks he no longer needs his afternoon sleep. He starts two days daycare next week which i think will help with his speech and eating problems. Though i am sad becasue i want him home but i need to study. Hope you are all healthy and happy!!

clmtao

12-02-2009, 17:08

logiesmummy - Of course we missed you! Wow you are going to be a busy bee. How do you fit it all in? What are you studying? I am 2/3 of the way through my MBA at the moment and am hoping that I can finish this year...only 4 units to go woohoo.

mrmoosmum

12-02-2009, 17:16

Afternoon lovelies

Debi - what are you studying? I feel the same way about putting DS in childcare.

Aprilbaby - welcome to the thread - hope you get to leave very soon. I have a short luteal phase too and it is slowly lengthening with chinese herbs. It is a hard journey - after falling so easily last year a couple of times I never thought I'd be here either. Where did you get your progesterone supps from?

Alana and Christine - charts are looking great :fingerscrossed:.

Kez - I'm off to take some vit B6 now - is it only good to take in second half of cycle or all the time?

Decided last night I'm going to train for a half marathon in June - I generally find that when I focus on other things I get pregnant, plus I've decided to plan for things in the future that couldn't happen if I fell. Very tempted to book a ski trip in August to guarantee a pregnancy.

ringneck

12-02-2009, 17:40

christine yep worked fine, your chart is looking great what is your lp normally?

Debi wow you're going to be busy, i'm studying at the moment too. Daycare will definitely help Logan with his speech the interaction with other kids will be great for him plus gives you time to study.

mrmoosmum wow good luck with the marathon what kind of training will you be doing for that?

AFM have been getting slight cramps on and off keep going to the toilet to see if i've started spotting am glad i have a busy busy day and night tomorrow or i'd go insane.

Craftymum

12-02-2009, 18:06

Alana - Fingers crossed Mr spot stays away....
Debi - Have fun studying! I also volunteered for the bushfire help but I can only do Fridays so I dont think they will want me haha....
Von - LOL, most definately book it in and then you will end up with twins or something :laughing:
Aprilbaby - Fingers crossed AF stays away and you either get your BFP or lengthen your LP!
:wave: to everyone else!

ringneck

12-02-2009, 18:30

well i just started spotting and now cramps are bit worse looks like i'll be out just hope af waits till Saturday so i have a decent lp

logiesmummy

12-02-2009, 18:37

Alana :hugs: lovey i really hope it holds out for you!!

Thanks all i am repeating year 12 so i can get into social welfare or child welfare next year! Bit daunting but its somethig i have alwasy wanted to do and dh has encouraged me.

XavysMummy

12-02-2009, 19:00

:banghead: I just lost a big post.....grrrr

Hi ladies, I am around but feeling very crappy today....only went to work for 2hrs and then came home for a 3.5hr nana nap! :sleeping:I woke up to the incubator beside me chirping....5 of the 18 eggs are trying to hatch! I need to leave them alone though as I have been peeling back the shell helping them and you really shouldnt do that....

DH got home this arvo and was thrilled to see me feeling so yuck.....said it can only be a good thing....sure sure I said.

I hope this 6mm long bub is a fighter:fingerscrossed:

Alana~ I've been watching your chart and keeping my fingers crossed.
Lisa~Good luck on the 2WW my friend
Deb~ good for you going back to study
Christine~are you going mad in the 2WW?
Von~ you go girl....

Sorry if I missed anyone:flowerz:

ringneck

12-02-2009, 20:12

kaz sorry you're feeling so crappy, but DH is right it's a good sign :hugs:

Debi thanks :hugs:

So i may just be clutching at straws but spotting has eased up do you think it could be implantation? i'm still having af cramps though so probably just onset of af.

XavysMummy

12-02-2009, 20:30

Just had one chick completely hatch :yelclap:and I missed it......was outside with the 11 day old chicks.....

So exciting....I'm running between mid-wifing in the spare room to watching the Bush Fire appeal

mrmoosmum

12-02-2009, 20:32

Kaz - yay for feeling yuck - that is a great sign - very reassuring :yelclap:. Hopefully you only feel sick until 12 weeks though and then sail through the rest. And welcome to all the new little chicks.

Debi - good for you and great that you have DH's support.

Alana - could be implantation - do you often spot? Big :fingerscrossed: for you. For the half marathon I only run three times per week but for fairly long or intense sessions. It is nice to have something else to focus on and I feel very relaxed afterwards (or just exhausted).

Christine - my DH has just started his MBA and I think he's very envious of anyone close to finishing. Who are you doing yours through?

Made the best lamb curry for dinner tonight, then DH is going to get lucky...

Craftymum

12-02-2009, 21:34

Kaz - LOL, good practice for you :laughing:, they are just too cute.... Hope you get a good nights rest. Tell your DH that men can go out in sympathy with the symptoms too you know ;).

Von - Nothing like a curry to spice things up ;) :laughing:

Debi - Have fun studying!

Alana - Not sure about the spotting bizzo, I have everything crossed its implantation for you. You cant even check it with temps really as when I start spotting at 7dpo I always still have high temps :confused:. Fingers crossed she stays away for you.

clmtao

13-02-2009, 08:33

Good morning everyone.

Von - Wow a marathon...you go girl!!! I am doing my MBA through the University of Canberra. Tell your husband that I totally understand. 2 years ago I was in the same boat but the time has gone quickly. For some reason I now feel like a lamb curry....for breakfast :laughing:

Alana - Seeing as though it has eased and your temps are still up, it could well be implantation spotting. Do you usually spot? My LP has been 12 for the last 2mths and 10 the one before.

Debi - Best of luck with your study. It is great that you have DH's support. I couldn't study without my DH being so supportive. It tends to take up a bit of your time (especially with working full time). I am sure you will do wonderfully and get into your course of choice. How long is the yr12 course for?

Kaz - Congrats on the chickies. Are you planning on keeping them all? Sorry that you feel crappy but at least you know why. Yes I think I am going insane in this TWW...I think this has been the hardest yet coz my temps are looking the best they ever have and now I am trying not to get my hopes up too much (proving to be an impossible task).

Sorry to anyone I missed.

Have a great day.

ringneck

13-02-2009, 08:36

Christine i just had a wee peek at your chart 14dpo and temp still up :fingerscrossed: it's looking good for you. I have no idea i've only ovulated once before lol on the pill i used to spot before af but that's a whole different ball game. I'm guessing af will arrive tomorrow though my chart is looking almost identical to last time i o'd.

clmtao

13-02-2009, 08:43

Alana - I have my :fingerscrossed: that AF doesn't show up. But if the worst comes to the worst at least you know you are O'ing and have a very reliable temp pattern. It is so hard to judge anything because of the pill isn't it. I don't think I will ever go back on it. I didn't have 2 cycles the same length for 10mths after coming off it. Because I was only 16 or so when I went on it, I have no memory of what my cycles were like before it. If I am lucky enough to have a little girl I am going to make damn sure she keeps note of timings as you never dream they will become so important one day.

ringneck

13-02-2009, 08:57

Christine that's it isn't it, i was put on the pill at 14 due to extremely heavy painful periods so i honestly have no recollection of what they were like before then.

clmtao

13-02-2009, 09:02

Alana - Here's hoping we don't get another one for 9mths. I am going to treat myself to the movies today and not think about it for a while. It has been killing me being on holidays and in the TWW...work is such a distraction and without it I am going insane.

ringneck

13-02-2009, 09:04

Christine have fun at the movies, we have a really full day today and night so i'll have plenty of distraction.

XavysMummy

13-02-2009, 09:10

Kaz - Congrats on the chickies. Are you planning on keeping them all?

I've had 9 chicks hatch over night and still going...I'm not going to work today due to the fires. Our business is under ember attack.

I get to stay home and watch chicks hatch:smiliedance:

ringneck

13-02-2009, 09:42

Kaz :smiliedance: for baby chickens. Hope your business is ok.

Craftymum

13-02-2009, 13:05

Kaz - Yay for all the chicks! Thats fantastic news. I dont blame you for not wanting to go today on both accounts - chicks and the fire. I hope everything is safe at your work.

Christine - Your chart is looking fantastic! I so would be testing at 14dpo!

Alana - Bummer about the temp drop, fingers crossed its up again tomorrow :D

clmtao

13-02-2009, 13:45

Kaz - I hope your business is okay :hugs:

Lisa - I am dying to test but I would love to find out on Valentine's day so I am trying to be a good girl. I just bought some HPT's though and have had to put them outside in the shed so I am not tempted to test early.

XavysMummy

13-02-2009, 14:00

Well the alert has been taken off where I work so I have trudged myself into work....

I left 11 newly laid chicks at home warming themselves under the light...there are 6 eggs still in the incubator of which half I think are rotten so we'll wait and see if we get anymore....my poor 6yo niece was coming to stay tonight to watch the chicks hatch and they've jumped the gun and hatch early....

Still feeling seedy, mum suggested my 'seabands' I wore on the cruise ship for motion sickness, so I'm looking like a nuffy wearing them, without a lot of improvement

clmtao

13-02-2009, 14:22

Kaz - Great news about your business..except that you had to go to work and leave the chickies. Hopefully your niece will get to see some of the remaining eggies hatch. Do those bands usually kick in straight away? I have never used them before. Maybe you just need to wear it for a bit longer before it gives you some relief.

XavysMummy

13-02-2009, 14:42

Craftymum

13-02-2009, 14:54

XavysMummy

13-02-2009, 15:04

kaz - LOL you dont think your brothers might get a bit suspect when they see you wearing them :laughing:. I thought you had to start wearing them before you got nauseated otherwise they didnt work??

LOL yeah I think they will but one of my brothers isnt even at work yet and the other would never guess I'm UTD!

As for putting them on b4 I was nauseated....I should have put them on days ago then :laughing:.

I know I shouldn't be complaining, but last time MS didnt stop me from having a MC, but this time it feels worse so I'm hoping it means good things.....still no :barf: though...

mrmoosmum

13-02-2009, 15:08

Christine - things are looking really good - can't believe how strong you are being. Wanting lamb curry for brekkie has to be a good sign!

Kaz - hope you aren't feeling too bad today. I used to have acupuncture on a point about three fat fingers in from my wrist and that worked, but I didn't actually mind feeling sick - my FS said it was a good thing - lots of lovely hormones looking after my baby.

Hello to everyone else :wave:.

Had a positive OPK last night and EWCM this morning. I think it is amazing getting two LH peaks this month - I'd heard about it happening but never really believed it. If only I'd been charting to see what happened with my temps.

XavysMummy

13-02-2009, 15:14

Kaz - hope you aren't feeling too bad today. I used to have acupuncture on a point about three fat fingers in from my wrist and that worked, but I didn't actually mind feeling sick - my FS said it was a good thing - lots of lovely hormones looking after my baby.

Thanks Von, I guess thats the same theory behind the seabands as they put pressure on those same points on the wrist.

clmtao

13-02-2009, 17:42

Von - I don't think I am strong, just stubborn lol. I don't want to see another :bfn:

Kaz - Maybe they aren't working coz you are having a strong healthy baby. At least you aren't :barf:

Lisa - I will be sure to post the details as soon as I know. You will all be the second person I tell after DH....just don't mention that to my parents lol.

keziah

13-02-2009, 22:50

Thanks Von, I guess thats the same theory behind the seabands as they put pressure on those same points on the wrist.

Hi Kaz, B6 is good for nausea in pregnancy and safe. It also supports prog levels.

zzzzzzzz off to bed, me tired......

Craftymum

14-02-2009, 07:01

Christine - Goodluck this morning! Thinking of you :hugs:

clmtao

14-02-2009, 07:49

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I guess they payed off.....I got a :bfp: this morning. WOOHOO :smiliedance:

I woke up at 5am needing to pee so I took my test in and viola....the test line came up in less than 10 seconds (before the control line even). It is a nice dark line too. I put the test in the gift box for DH with the baby names book and 'worlds greatest dad' stubby holder and went back to bed. Well I laid there away for 2 hours until DH woke up so I could give it to him. He just hugged me so hard and wouldn't let go. He said he bought me a present too (which is weird coz we don't usually celebrate Valentine's day)....It was a cake with pink icing and hearts all over it. So we are going to cart it around to all our parents houses today (both our parents are divorced so we have 4 families to see) to tell them the news and have coffee (decaf for me) and cake.

I still can't believe it...I'm on :cloud9:

Thanks again for keeping me sane in the TWW. I still have my :fingerscrossed: for all of you.

Craftymum

14-02-2009, 08:01

WOO HOO CHRISTINE!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT A LOVELY VALENTINES DAY PRESENT
:cloud9::cloud9::cloud9:

Here's to a sticky 9 months lovely!

logiesmummy

14-02-2009, 08:52

Congratulations Christine!!
Heres to a fantastic :smiliedance:pregnancy!! :smiliedance:

Happy Valentines day Lovely Ladies!!

ringneck

14-02-2009, 09:17

CONGRATS CHRISTINE :smiliedance: :smiliedance: :smiliedance: hope you have a wonderful pregnancy

keziah

14-02-2009, 10:00

XavysMummy

14-02-2009, 11:25

Congrats Christine!!!
What a wonderful Valentine's gift for your hubby! Have a wonderful day!!!
:babydust2::babydust2::babydust2:

clmtao

14-02-2009, 12:03

Thanks everyone. I hope you are all having great a Valentine's day too. I can't keep the smile off my face and neither can our parents. This will be the first grandchild on both sides....and very much hoped for.

mrmoosmum

14-02-2009, 13:19

CONGRATULATIONS!!!
:smiliedance::smiliedance::smiliedance:
I hope you have a wonderful, healthy, happy pregnancy!

megB74

14-02-2009, 16:42

THats great news Christine! Congratulations!!!:yelclap:

aprilbaby

14-02-2009, 18:55

Congratulations Christine, you must be thrilled.

Well I did a test yesterday (10dpo) and I finally got my :bfp:
It was very faint, but the second line was there. I immediately called the fertility specialist we've been seeing to ask them to do a blood test to confirm it, so I knew it was real. I have never even made it to 10dpo to actually do a test before, so I felt like I was imagining it.

Their test came back positive, but the HCG was low (38.) They said that was to be expected for so early but not too get too excited until I came back on Monday to check the levels were rising. The cautious tone of her voice kind of brought me down, but I was still so happy just to get the bfp.

Sadly, she was right to be concerned as late that night I started bleeding. I am still bleeding today, it's not heavy but I do have a bit of cramping which is not good.

The most likely thing is that it was a chemical pregnancy but I'm holding out a tiny bit of hope it is just decidual bleeding and that it will hold on. Only a tiny bit though.

I feel so angry and sad and over this whole process. I just can't believe how unfair it is that I am going through this for the second time in only a few months. I'm sure you all know how it feels.

I will do a test tonight to see if it still comes up positive. I figure if it's dropped then it won't show up so at least I will know for sure.

Sorry to be a downer after Christine's great news, but that's the rollercoaster I guess.

clmtao

14-02-2009, 19:27

Aprilbaby - I am sending you heaps of magical :wizard::babydust2::babydust2: and praying that your levels keep rising.

keziah

14-02-2009, 20:23

Craftymum

14-02-2009, 21:56

Aprilbaby - Hang in there :hugs:, hopefully you will know more soon :fingerscrossed:

ringneck

15-02-2009, 09:31

Aprilbaby :hugs: if the bleed is only light then there is hope, i will be thinking of you and hoping everything is ok :hugs:

AFM after light bleeding here and there but not consistently yesterday af has shown up full flow today so on to march.

XavysMummy

15-02-2009, 09:40

AFM after light bleeding here and there but not consistently yesterday af has shown up full flow today so on to march.

Sorry it wasn't your month Alana, great news your cycles are getting shorter and you're O'ing on your own:hugs:

Aprilbaby I hope things turn out ok for you:hugs:

clmtao

15-02-2009, 10:16

Alana - Im sorry you couldn't join me in celebration....but as Kaz said, at least your cycles are getting a bit more regular and you know you are O'ing. Best of luck for March

aprilbaby

15-02-2009, 10:33

Thanks so much girls. :hugs:

Sadly af kicked in properly this morning and a test showed the line was barely visible, so the level has obviosuly dropped. I had prepared myself for the worst so it was what I expected but still.....:crying:

I will do a blood test to confirm tomorrow but I know it has gone. So I guess it's back to square one. Again.

clmtao

15-02-2009, 11:11

Aprilbaby - My heart goes out to you :hugs:

Craftymum

15-02-2009, 12:29

Aprilbaby - So sorry sweets :hugs:
Alana - Grr at the witch showing up..... Fingers crossed for March :hugs:

ringneck

15-02-2009, 13:03

Aprilbaby :hugs: i'm so sorry, if you need to talk we're all here for you.

BabyJoy

15-02-2009, 13:46

Aprilbaby and Alana... so sorry to hear about AF turning up... :hugs: Hugs for you both! Good luck for March.

Congratulations Christine... great news - I bet your family are thrilled! My parents get excited everytime I phone them... they know we are trying again and would love more grandchildren.

I have to ask you all... how do you do it? How do you find time to chat so much on Bubhub?? :laughing:
I just cannot spend every day on the computer as I have so many other things I'd rather do - perhaps this is a result of having to work at a computer three days a week. But I am finding it harder to keep up with the news as I just don't visit the forum often enough and when I do, I feel somewhat forgotten. :rolleyes:

logiesmummy

15-02-2009, 13:53

mrmoosmum

15-02-2009, 14:31

Aprilbaby - so sorry to hear about AF turning up - I was there in December and know exactly how you feel. We are all here if you want to chat.

Alana - sorry to hear AF turned up.

Debi - that is a lot of pregnancies - surely some of the baby dast has to rub off? Even occasional IRL ones can get me down - it is so hard to be happy sometimes, especially if they then throw in the helpful 'just relax and it will happen' line.

Babyjoy - I don't work so have plenty of time to hang out here. You arne't forgotten though. How is the acupuncture going?

Kaz - how are you feeling today?

Hello to everyone else.

Not much happening here. DH working on his MBA assignment but we'll head out for a drink later to watch planes take off (DS's favourite treat).

Craftymum

15-02-2009, 16:10

Shannon - Your never forgotten about lovely :hugs:. Even though you dont get a chance to be on here as much as some of us, we still think of you :yes:. I'm lucky and am now a SAHM so I get my time on the hub when DD is asleep during the day, and nights, plus our pc is in our family room so I can multi task at the same time! Dont feel bad, its great to read your posts and we understand its hard when you are working at the same time :hugs:.

Debi - WTF? AF again? :detective: did you do a hpt at all, was your last one really AF? Sorry to hear about hte many pregnancies, just look at it in a way that 'they did' so 'you can' hang in there lovely :hugs:

Von - Enjoy your drinkies watching the planes! I had 2 glasses last night with some friends when I shouldnt of in the 2ww but I'm over letting it rule my life lol.

Well I feel super organised for once. I just left DD at home and hit the shops for a 3 hr shopping spree buying all the mothers groups kids bday presents, my own daughters who turns 2 in a couple of weeks and hubbys who is just before DD... so I feel somewhat organised!

I have decided to start selling my cards too so I am trying to build some stocks up as a lovely friend has volunteered to put them in her craft stall. PlusI thought I might put them on my facebook page for friends to see and order if they so wish! Then I might... investigate ebay we shall see, one foot in at a time :laughing:

BabyJoy

15-02-2009, 17:15

sorry... having computer dramas.... aaarrgh!
see post below.

BabyJoy

15-02-2009, 18:26

OK just a vent here but does any one feel lke they are a magnet for there friends getting pregnant?
YES! All the time! Three women I work with announced they were pregnant last week - it felt like someone hit me with a cricket bat! I asked them how long they had been trying for and they all said "not long". GRRRR!
Sorry to hear about AF... your body is really playing nasty tricks on you Debi. :no:

Thanks Lisa! :hugs:
That's great about your card-making! Go for it! I'm amazed at how quick word of mouth happens and how fast my business grew in just one year. Now I've had to cut back as it was just overwhelming. Despite this... in the last two days I've had interested retailers wanting to sell my products, so I'm really excited about that, but again creating for myself more work! Doh! :doh:

DD is watching Winnie the Pooh so I'm finally finding time to update her babysite. I have neglected it for so long and family have been pestering me for more photos.

Have a lovely Sunday everyone.

keziah

15-02-2009, 18:35

OK just a vent here but does any one feel lke they are a magnet for there friends getting pregnant? In the last three weeks i have found out 9 of our friend are expecting and two family members! And its sersiouly doing my head in!
Plus i fell like i am getting af again and i am only on day 7! RRRR i am so over my body atm! its ****ing me off!

OK that over with hope you are all haveing a realxing sunday. Hope fully will be back later in a better mood!

I know EXACTLY what you mean, the hardest for me is not the announcements but when those announcements turn into births....it just reminds me how long we have been trying, I am not only hearing about the conception but greeting the arrival. Ahhhhhh, waiting to see how this mth plays out, hope it's not another 40day cycle...

Thought last night would be beautiful, hubby bought roses and gorgy card and we watched a soppy movie, then I just 'broke down' in tears unable to be pulled out of whatever 'dark' place I went to...hmmmmm tis a rollercoaster that's for sure. Feeling much much better today and bought a musical toy with hubby to add to all our other instruments so that has put a smile on our faces....altho I feel so damn guilty losing it emotionally after DH went to such an effort last nite, I didn't even bother with a card this yr!! EEK!!:rolleyes:

I made it up with a luscious BD this morn tho and it had NOTHING to do with TTC for a change hahaha :p

Thinking of you all xxx

keziah

15-02-2009, 18:41

I was remiss in responding about the Maybe Baby saliva tester.......I can't remember now who queried it but I have found it a bit unreliable...it's nice to see the ferning tho...I guess if you have high oestrogen levels then it's going to fern a lot, not just around O. What are other people's experiences?

The OPK's do my head in too. Can be difficult to get a 'strong' reading.....

megB74

15-02-2009, 19:41

I have decided to start selling my cards too so I am trying to build some stocks up as a lovely friend has volunteered to put them in her craft stall. PlusI thought I might put them on my facebook page for friends to see and order if they so wish! Then I might... investigate ebay we shall see, one foot in at a time :laughing:

**Blush!:p**

XavysMummy

15-02-2009, 20:27

Kaz - how are you feeling today?

Hi Von,
Thanks for asking, I feel bad coming in here and talking about my Morning Sickness though. Today I have had ALL DAY MS....still haven't:barf:but am starting to think I'd feel better if I did. I have such fears for the future of this pregnancy, its really doing my head in. I am constantly reminded that this is my 3rd pregnancy and that I can't assume anything....today DH and I had a look at a big baby store at prams, just cos he's never looked at them before and I wouldnt let the salepeople talk to me as I felt.....i dunno.....that I didnt want to waste their time as this pregnancy may not be the one.

Sorry ladies, I've been biting DH's head off today and thought I'd be better off expressing my thoughts in here than continuing to be cranky at him.

:hugs:Deb~I get what you mean with EVERYONE being pregnant...so many of my friends/family have got PG and had babies whilst we've been TTC....serves as a constant reminder....

Craftymum

15-02-2009, 20:49

**Blush!:p**
I can hear the click clack of needles from here :laughing:

Kaz - My dear friend... :hugs:, I have never experienced the emotions of miscarriage, but this one is a keeper. You will be doing that baby shopping, your just taking your own time to come to terms with the exciting news. Not long till that 12 week scan :yes:

Keziah - Glad you made up for it today ;). Our DH deal with a lot dont they. I know mine has dealt with the day 3 clomid meltdowns for the past couple of cycles and I so cant wait for it all to be over.

:wave: to everyone else, hope you had a lovely weekend.

clmtao

16-02-2009, 07:51

Morning all.

Shannon - I had to laugh at your post about getting time to post. I was totally in the same boat a little while ago....but now I am on annual leave from work and can post whenever. Come next week though and you will probably hardly hear from me lol.

Debi - I know exactly what you mean....I know a zillion people who are pregnant. What makes it worse is when they say "I only went off the pill last month" aaarrrrggghhh :hair:

Lisa - Best of luck with your card sales. I am a card maker too...but not nearly good enough to sell. I still have fun at it though.

Keziah - Sorry, I have never used the Maybe Baby saliva test so I can't help at all.

Kaz - I understand your concerns but now that you are getting all day sickness this is probably a good sign that all is right and you have a nice and strong bub.

AFM - I have an appointment with my GP this morning to get official confirmation that I am pregnant and to find out what I have to do now. Do any of you have any tips on what I should be asking him? I have absolutely no idea what to do. I spent so long TTC that now I am finding it hard to accept that I am pregnant. I am getting no symptoms what so ever which doesn't help. I keep feeling like the lack of symptoms is a bad sign and my baby isn't strong enough to make it to 12 weeks.

ringneck

16-02-2009, 08:37

Debi :hugs: i hope it's not af again, i know what you mean about everyone being utd, we are the only ones but a couple who isn't interested in kids yet that dont have children. One of our friends has had 2 kids since we started ttc one born just as we started and another last month. It will be all of our turns next.

Christine good luck at the dr's am sure it'll be fine.

mrmoosmum

16-02-2009, 09:50

Morning all

Crafty - great idea - making a little money doing something you enjoy. Can't wait to see some samples. For now I buy my cards here from the city mission - they teach homeless kids screenprinting techniques and they use the offcuts on cards (they make cushion covers, aprons, bags etc), plus they are written in pidgin (hepi krismas etc), but I'd always support a friend in the future.

Christine - good luck with the doctors - it is still early days and lots of people have no symptoms just yet. After waiting so long it is hard not to get worried, but I'm sure everything will be fine.

Kaz - I agree you've got yourself a sticker in there. You can celebrate whenever you are ready - the pram shops will always be there.

I find the maybe baby saliva tester unreliable too - often get ferning a couple of days before o'ing.

Finally remembering to take temps - about to see if I can input them into FF halfway through a cycle. All I care about is that they keep going up!

XavysMummy

16-02-2009, 10:14

Kaz - I understand your concerns but now that you are getting all day sickness this is probably a good sign that all is right and you have a nice and strong bub.

AFM - I have an appointment with my GP this morning to get official confirmation that I am pregnant and to find out what I have to do now. Do any of you have any tips on what I should be asking him? I have absolutely no idea what to do. I spent so long TTC that now I am finding it hard to accept that I am pregnant. I am getting no symptoms what so ever which doesn't help. I keep feeling like the lack of symptoms is a bad sign and my baby isn't strong enough to make it to 12 weeks.

Don't worry about lack of symptoms Christine, my morning sickness has kicked in at 7wks...

Kaz - I agree you've got yourself a sticker in there. You can celebrate whenever you are ready - the pram shops will always be there.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Von...I hope all you lovely ladies are right and I have a sticky one on board:goodvibes:

aprilbaby

16-02-2009, 11:05

Christine, I can relate, I never had any symptoms with my DS. In fact, I didn't find out I was pregnant until 8 weeks because I didn't suspect anything (went straight off the pill and never got AF, though it was my body readjusting.)

I struggled to accpet I was pregnant until that first scan, but even then until I fet him kicking it didn't seem real.

Not getting morning sickness doesn't mean your baby isn't strong, it just means you're lucky! Enjoy this time before you get fat and uncomfortable!

x

chhandita

16-02-2009, 16:41

Ahem...

anybody remember me? :wave:

I was away taking break and am back - 6w4d preggo :)....got my BFP on 4th of feb...just trying to believe tht this one will stick... had my first u/s and saw the heartbeat :thumbsup:

clmtao

16-02-2009, 16:47

XavysMummy

16-02-2009, 16:48

XavysMummy

16-02-2009, 17:06

Thanks guys for making me feel better. I had a BT done today but the strange thing is my GP ordered all these checks (such as Rubella and Glucose etc) but not a BETA HCG...is it common not to have this test?

Welcome back chhandita. Congrats on your :bfp:. My GP has not given me a referal for a heartbeat scan...my first will be the 12 week one :(

Christine is this your first pregnancy? If it is, its normal for Dr's to order those tests to make sure your rubella is up to scratch and check a few other levels (glucose, iron). Also Drs trust HPTs as being very accurate and a Beta HCG is not always ordered unless you have a history of MC, same with early scans, again these are for people with a history of early pregnancy loss, if everything goes to plan its 'normal' to have your first scan at 12wks.

chhandita

16-02-2009, 17:11

Thanks girls, and congratulations to you too :)... Most women have their scan later, i had it early coz of the previous m/c and coz i had sever abdominal cramps....

ringneck

16-02-2009, 17:26

Cchandita congrats on your bfp :smiliedance: hope you have a wonderful pregnancy.

clmtao

16-02-2009, 17:52

Thanks guys. Yes it is my first pregnancy. I am so relieved to know that I am not abnormal. My GP admitted that he usually runs a mile when the word maternity is uttered so I wasn't sure if everything was right. He has refered me to a local ante natal clinic so I wont be seeing him again (in regards to the pregnancy) after getting the BT results. As always you guys have made me feel great. Bless you.

chhandita

16-02-2009, 18:24

Thanks RN, its so tough to really enjoy the process after having tried so hard...i guesss once an infertile, always an infertile lol...m checking all symtoms...more scared then happy :)

mrmoosmum

17-02-2009, 09:28

Congratulations chandita - all the best for a nice sticky healthy pregnancy.

aprilbaby

17-02-2009, 13:30

kath87

17-02-2009, 13:58

Hi Girls,
I hope you dont mind me poping in from time to time i often check your thread out but im no longer TTC so theres not much point joining in untill we are back TTC which wont be for a while, but im from another thread that CRAFTYMUM use to be in and i just wanted to pop in and see where she was up to and how your going with the clomid?? Have you finished your 2nd corse yet i may be a bit behind haha. Also just wanted to say how beautiful your cards are hun your sure are a "crafty mum" Good luck to every one testing over the next few days ladies Xoxo

keziah

17-02-2009, 16:10

So blood tst confimed what I though, HCG had dropped right down so bubba didn't stick.

Gone through all the emotions and now just getting on with things and concentrating on next month. What else can you do?

One thing is for sure though, next time I won't be testing until my period is ridiculously late and I am practically showing.

:hugs::hugs::hugs: kisses and good vibes for you...ya gotta luv good ol' bubhub for a vent (I know sometimes I am bashing on those keys as I get something out as to how I'm feeling on this journey), but such an understanding bunch of goyals to respond and empathise, it gets you through the darker days. I feel for you, I really do..

mrmoosmum

17-02-2009, 16:35

Aprilbaby - so sorry to hear your thoughts were confirmed. I agree with you about the whole test when you go into labour thing after the same thing happened to me. However I live in a malaria zone and would leave as soon as I had a pregnancy confirmed.

Crafty - where are you hiding the piccies of your cards?

AFM - worked out how to link my chart to my signature (thanks for the instructions a while back ringneck). I had to make up a couple of temps from when I forgot early in my cycle, but it is almost a habit now.

megB74

17-02-2009, 17:30

Poking head in ladies! Have been v v busy clicking needles for first market stall this weekend! (and Lisa - those cards are going to look FAB!)

Having said that - working on this stuff is not helping my clucky vibe in any way...

clmtao

17-02-2009, 17:47

Aprilbaby - I am so sorry to hear your news. Sending you lots of :hugs:

XavysMummy

17-02-2009, 18:14

chook76

17-02-2009, 18:19

Oh Kaz, I am so sorry. I can't express how sad I am for you and your DH right now. I hope testing will shed some light on why this is happening. My thoughts are with you.

Please take care of yourself at this time and allow yourself the space to grieve.

Kathy

ringneck

17-02-2009, 18:59

Kaz i am so sorry :hugs: it's not fair you have to go through this again, if you need to talk just pm me.
Have they checked your folate levels as i've read a few articles about mc around 7-8weeks and low folate can be the cause. I hope they find out why this is happening so they can sort it out for you. My heart goes out to you and your DH.

Craftymum

17-02-2009, 19:57

Firstly Kaz, my dear dear friend.... Life is just too cruel sometimes. We've chatted, lots of hugs :hugs: and I will give you a real one on Saturday! Hang in there.

i just wanted to pop in and see where she was up to and how your going with the clomid?? Have you finished your 2nd corse yet i may be a bit behind haha. Also just wanted to say how beautiful your cards are hun your sure are a "crafty mum" Good luck to every one testing over the next few days ladies Xoxo
Aww thanks lovely :hugs:, I am doing well. 2nd Round of clomid finished and currently in the 2ww. Will be testing mid next week. I must say I definately felt ovulation this month - I couldnt walk so fingers crossed that means it was a nice ripe juicy egg being released! How are the wedding plans coming along? And is the dress made now?

So blood tst confimed what I though, HCG had dropped right down so bubba didn't stick.
So sorry hun, :hugs:.

Crafty - where are you hiding the piccies of your cards?

AFM - worked out how to link my chart to my signature
Ooo another chart I can stalk!! will have a peek when I finish this post! I will post the link below to the cards :o. I hope they look alright!

Poking head in ladies! Have been v v busy clicking needles for first market stall this weekend! (and Lisa - those cards are going to look FAB!)
LOL, thanks , now lets just hope the mailman does his job and gets them to you on time! :fingerscrossed:

mrmoosmum

17-02-2009, 20:25

Kaz - I am so so sorry - there are no words to express how sad I feel for you, tears are rolling down my face.

keziah

17-02-2009, 21:40

Hi Ladies,
I am the bearer of sad news today, I had my 8wk BT this morning and my levels had increased only 50% so although my FS wasn't startled I decided to bring fwd my scan to this afternoon instead of next week. Unfortunately it showed that our little chickpea's heart had stopped beating, the little bub really was a miracle I could see its little head and body. We were in the same building as our FS so he came over and saw us and is going to do more testing.
So I've lost our third little miracle, and I really thought this was the one.

To our darling Kaz,

You, my dear, are one strong little lady and I have just come back from teaching a class to open up this thread and read your sad news, my heart has just sunk for you and your DH. I was so excited (and inspired) by your pregnancy. I am sure your little chickpea is up there shining down on you. Curl up with your hubby and just be want you want to be, sad, angry, frustrated, numb, whatever it is and know that ALL of us here are sending you so much love n light.

Your time WILL come Kaz. But for now take time to care of you xxx :hugs::crying::hugs:

BabyJoy

17-02-2009, 23:29

Hi Ladies,
I am the bearer of sad news today, I had my 8wk BT this morning and my levels had increased only 50% so although my FS wasn't startled I decided to bring fwd my scan to this afternoon instead of next week. Unfortunately it showed that our little chickpea's heart had stopped beating, the little bub really was a miracle I could see its little head and body. We were in the same building as our FS so he came over and saw us and is going to do more testing.
So I've lost our third little miracle, and I really thought this was the one.

Kaz... I, too, have tears rolling down my face. I cannot believe you have faced such a terrible loss again. Allow yourself time to grieve... you know we are all here for you if you need to talk. :hugs:
Goodbye Chickpea - your life was so short, but you were greatly loved.

BabyJoy

17-02-2009, 23:34

I thought while I was here, I should add a few more personals...

AFM - I have an appointment with my GP this morning to get official confirmation that I am pregnant and to find out what I have to do now. Do any of you have any tips on what I should be asking him? I have absolutely no idea what to do. I spent so long TTC that now I am finding it hard to accept that I am pregnant. I am getting no symptoms what so ever which doesn't help. I keep feeling like the lack of symptoms is a bad sign and my baby isn't strong enough to make it to 12 weeks.
Christine, don't stress... I didn't have any symptoms with DD for many weeks, so I figured I was one of the lucky ones!

Ahem...

anybody remember me?

I was away taking break and am back - 6w4d preggo :)....got my BFP on 4th of feb...just trying to believe tht this one will stick... had my first u/s and saw the heartbeat
Hi chhandita, congrats on your pregnancy!!

Aprilbaby, I'm so sorry to read your news. :hugs: I hope next month is more positive.

Hi Girls,
I hope you dont mind me poping in from time to time i often check your thread out but im no longer TTC so theres not much point joining in untill we are back TTC which wont be for a while, but im from another thread that CRAFTYMUM use to be in and i just wanted to pop in and see where she was up to and how your going with the clomid?? Have you finished your 2nd corse yet i may be a bit behind haha. Also just wanted to say how beautiful your cards are hun your sure are a "crafty mum" Good luck to every one testing over the next few days ladies Xoxo

Hi Kath! How are the wedding plans coming along? :detective:

Lisa, can you PM me a link to your card pics? Would love to see them!

AFM, lots of O pains today and hoping we catch the egg tomorrow with acupuncture... really trying to time things together this month. I keep forgetting to do OPKs, so I'm not entirely sure I'm right. CM looks good though. :fingerscrossed: - just hoping for the best.

megB74

18-02-2009, 06:42

Ahhh Kaz - what else can be said?

Thinking of you both:hugs:

clmtao

18-02-2009, 07:34

Kaz - You poor thing. I am sending you lots of :hugs: Feel free to vent to us anytime.

Lisa - I would love to see your cards too.

:wave: to everyone else.

Craftymum

18-02-2009, 08:19

Morning Ladies,

Shannon - Goodluck chasing that egg! I always forget my opks but I find it doesnt really matter with them like HPTS that give false results after a while....

Hope everyone is well. Still getting over colds here. Got all my cards packaged up and on their way to Sydney for Meg's Craft Stall :smiliedance:.

ringneck

18-02-2009, 17:32

XavysMummy

18-02-2009, 17:39

Thanks for your kind words ladies, Kez and Shannon what you said was just lovely...

Craftymum

18-02-2009, 20:15

Lisa how hard is it to make cards? i love what you and Kaz do, was thinking about making some for our wedding invites how much do you reckon they cost to make? Where do you get everything from to do them?
Hey ALana, if you are creative then really its just a matter of finding the time out to sit down and dedicate to it. I did my wedding invites (11 years ago now!) and I was crafty but not into this field and found it fairly easy. Kaz is a consultant for where we both get all our products from, maybe you could chat offline about it and she can steer you in the right direction :).

aprilbaby

18-02-2009, 20:30

Kaz, I don't know you and I have only shared your journey for a few short days, but my heart sank when I read your post. I am so sorry. Sometimes life is just not fair.

ringneck

18-02-2009, 21:58

megB74

19-02-2009, 06:58

Lisa thanks i'm fairly creative but DH is a graphic designer/sign writer so shouldn't be a challenge for him. It would be so much cheaper to do it our self just looking through invites pre made and they're $11-19 for each invite.

DH Did ours as well Alana - (and they were in keeping with our red & gold theme too!)

Hooray! Having some early success re: Saturdays first stall! It would appear the baby hoodie is quite the popular item!

ringneck

19-02-2009, 07:24

Meg that's great news, you're going to do really well on Saturday.

kath87

19-02-2009, 10:16

OMG Lisa your in the ttw on you second round already??? Where has the time gone haha well i hope that your O pain was worth it this month, i will keep poping in to check up on all the girls in hear that were from our other thread. I really hope every one gets there BFP soon.
Hi BABYJOY I didnt realise you were in this thread as well how is evrything going for you my dear? I know at one point you were working full time and trying to get a business off the ground how are you going with it? And how are the chinese herbs going?
AFM Wedding plans are great every thing is done... Havent got my dress yet it wont be in untill mid April which is a bit scary as the wedding is the 1st Saturday in May but I refuse to be stressed about anything to do with the wedding so I am just being pachent and am hoping like hell that it will be fine when i pick it up lol. Also My DP and i have decided to put TTC on hold for 12months as i have decided to change careers, so the week after the wedding im taking myself of to do a course in Medical Reception Im really excited about it and really feel like this is the right move for me.

XavysMummy

19-02-2009, 16:26

I'm not so great today, I have still got my morning sickness which really adds insult to injury and today it has been severe all day.
I've been thinking about how long I should wait to MC....as currently nothing is happening at all, I think after the weekend I'll ring my OB and ask her to do a D&C. It will be my 2nd D&C in 7mths and my 3rd General Anaesetic in 7mths....
Life sucks a bit
Kaz

mrmoosmum

19-02-2009, 17:48

XavysMummy

19-02-2009, 18:12

Kaz - life sucks a lot and it is totally unfair that you have to put up with morning sickness and no end result. The decision as to whether to let the m/c happen or a D&C is a tough one. Did the FS talk about analysing the 'products of conception' (sorry terrible term) if you had a D&C. That could maybe give you some clues as to why it has happened.

You are in my thoughts.

FS just said it would take a couple of weeks for things to 'happen' naturally, but last time nothing happened so I had a D&C and my first MC I had such severe pain from the contractions that I had to have a D&C. Both times they analysed the "POC" and found nothing abnormal. I'm gonna to let my OB look after me as she did my last 2 D&Cs and I rang her yesterday and she'll call me in the next few days, I told the receptionist I was happy to wait a week and then make a decision. My OB let me make the decision on when to do a D&C last time...I'm becoming quite knowledgable in this situation unfortunately.

clmtao

19-02-2009, 18:20

Kaz - That is lousy that you are still getting ms. It sounds like you have a lovely helpful OB that will do the right thing.

I have been a bit busy lately and have a lot of posts to catch up on so for now I will just say :wave: to you all.

Craftymum

19-02-2009, 19:58

Kath - Lol yes on the 2ww again... but its gone really quick with all this card making bizzo in the middle! Wow that is a tight deadline for your dress, but I am sure it will be just perfect. Good on you for making the decision to take some time out from the TTC... its good to focus on other things and you never know, a BFP might come as a bonus! ;)

Kaz- Thanks for the catch up today. It was nice to do some card making with you.... I hope you feel better soon my love :hugs:

Well I have been busy designing a few engagement and wedding cards for Debi today which was fun! Thanks Deb for your support!:hugs: Glad you liked them :)

mrmoosmum

19-02-2009, 21:28

Kaz - sounds like you have a good ob. :hugs:

Crafty - I know you are testing on the 25th, but do you think you'll be tempted to test sooner?

Alana - I made our wedding invitations too - nothing flash, but I convinced myself they were 'elegant'.

Meg - hope your stall goes well on Saturday. If your wares are half as good as that gorgeous knitted suit I saw recently you'll be a huge success.

AFM - mothers group here tomorrow. Almost all of them would be eligible to join this thread or the loss one, so any pregnancy announcements would be exciting but unlikely. I wonder if I have gravitated towards the fellow strugglers up here? Have made the most delicious raspberry coconut slice and a not too bad banana cake to serve - I usually have to resort to the emergency timtams due to my kitchen incompetancies, so I'm a bit proud of myself!

ringneck

20-02-2009, 10:06

Kaz :hugs: life does suck sometimes, i'm sorry you have still got morning sickness our bodies are so horrible sometimes. Your ob sounds lovely it's a shame you have to see her under these circumstances. Look after yourself and i'm here if you need a shoulder.

Lisa if we can't think of what to make for invites i may get you to do some for us, wont be for a while yet though wedding isn't till next year. You do such a great job though.

How is everyone else today?

megB74

20-02-2009, 11:06

:sleeping:I'm so tired...I think I knitted for close to 18hrs yesterday, have been quite manic! Will be glad once I get some "surplus" happening and can slow down little more than that.

To make matters worse my dear DH and his corrupting influence led me to POAS this morning (am 12dpo - again...) which gave up the inevitable BFN which has now left me feeling a little flat. Being tired probably hasn't helped.

Von - I have my range on my facebook page if you want to have a stickybeak? (lol)

Ah Kaz - thats awful, life can be cruel...

mrmoosmum

20-02-2009, 12:43

Meg - sorry to hear you got a BFN. Hopefully it is too early. Are you getting any signs? Would love to see your designs but need to get myself on facebook first - in the too hard basket with dialup.

AFM - 5 days till testing but 2 days till mr spot would arrive. Have no signs and not optimistic at all. We have decided to do one more month of chinese herbs, macca powder etc and then time to see a FS.

Craftymum

20-02-2009, 12:55

Von - Ditto, 5 days till testing, 2 days till spot generally arrives at his very latest he has been. This clomid seems to be doing well in stopping spot from arriving at 7dpo like he use to, but he came last month at 11dpo/12dpo so we shall see. And yes I did cave and poas this morning at 10dpo on and IC and of course BFN! Not wasting a FR just yet....

Meg - Lol, me too, unfortuantely BFN too.

Alana - Would love to do your invites for you if you decide not to do them yourself, just say when/if the time comes :)

Kaz - How you doing today lovely?

Debi - Wow, your a gun on that bike of yours! :laughing:

Shannon - Hope you caught that egg?

Christine - Hope bubba is treating you well.

Aprilbaby - HOw you going hun, hope everything is ok.

Well DH has gone away for a couple of days for a mountain biking endurance event through the Otway ranges along great ocean road so I am having nights of scrapping and card making and a craft day with the girls tomorrow!

mrmoosmum

21-02-2009, 01:39

Morning all

Can't sleep, which is one of my UTD signs, except I went for a run yesterday and tired myself out and went to sleep at 7pm, so probably just mucked up my body a bit. I won't be tempted to test early though - I got DH to get me some tests when he was last in Brissie, but he couldn't find FR so bought me a couple that you can only test the day you miss your period - how outdated!

Crafty - sorry about the BFN. Hope you have a good weekend with DH away. Mine just got back today from a night away. I quite enjoy the space as long as it isn't too long or I'm ovulating.

Shannon - hope you caught the egg and the acupuncture and relaxation and helping it to get all nice and comfy.

Charting question for all you gurus: If you have an obvious temp drop over a couple of days, does that mean you can't be preggers? unlikely?

Craftymum

21-02-2009, 07:30

Morning Ladies,

Meg - Fingers crossed the craft stall goes well today! Cant wait to hear all about it.

Von - So annoying when you cant sleep. Fingers crossed its a preggy sign for you. Had a peek at your chart and cant see any obvious dips in particular apart from your ovulation dip which looks really good. You can get a dip in your 2ww from about 5-7 dpo that can signal implantation but not everyone gets that.

AFM - I had spot arrive this morning along with some mild cramping and slight temp drop but at 11dpo its too early for AF so shall see what develops over the next few days.

Well I have Kaz and a few other girlfriends coming over today for a scrapping/card making day. Off to bake some lemonade scones mmmmm.....

clmtao

21-02-2009, 08:58

Morning all.

Sounds like you have all been busy lately.

Meg - best of luck at the craft stall today. Not that you will need it of course.

Lisa - Do you usually spot before AF? :fingerscrossed: it is implantation. mmmmm lemonade scones mmmmm sounds divine. Enjoy your craft day.

Von - I think the only thing that means you are unlikely to be preggers is if AF shows up. Hopefully you will see your temps rise again shortly.

AFM - Still not feeling preggers :( I know it is weird but sometimes I wish for ms just so I know this is real.

Hi to everyone else I missed.

Have a great weekend.

mrmoosmum

21-02-2009, 12:20

Morning all

Crafty - sorry to hear mr spot has visited. Hopefully it is implantation. I make lemonade scones too - or at least the recipe with just lemonade, SR flour and cream. Works a treat! Give Kaz a hug from me.

Christine - I know what you mean about wanting ms just so it feels real - I'm sure it isn't far off or at least feeling nauseous or really tired. It kicked in for me at around 6 weeks.

Meg - hope the stall went well.

My chart is ridiculously flat - if my temps didn't change during the day or even when I take them when I wake during the night I'd think there was something wrong with the thermometer. So no dip for implantation. But no spot either.

Going out to a trivia night tonight. Used to go to them all the time in my youth and going with friends we've met up here that used to go to the same pub in Sydney.

Craftymum

21-02-2009, 19:19

Christine - Unfortunately yes I do spot prior to AF. It use to be from 7dpo before clomid but now it seems to be 11dpo it starts which is an improvement. I'm pretty sure it will end up in AF as its the same old story! Have some lower back ache, although I am not sure if that is from all the card making I have been doing :laughing:

Von - Thanks, we had a lovely day card making and scrapbooking. Was nice to catch up with Kaz and a few other girlfriends. The lemonade scones are the same recipe. Sent the leftovers home with Kaz for her DH as I didnt want them in the house lol! Enjoy your Trivia night - I love those nights, although it does bring out the competiveness in me :o

megB74

22-02-2009, 06:56

Had one of those days yesterday. Woke up to AF (which was bang on target), headed off to the market to set up, which only lasted less than an hour before the heavens opened with a huge thunderstorm to boot.

Decided the evening was best spent in bed with DH, a mug of soup and a hot water bottle so at least it ended well?

Craftymum

22-02-2009, 09:01

Meg - Sorry to hear your day didnt go so well :hugs:

Well I am so tired.... I havent gone to bed before 1am the past 2 nights as DH is away and I just wasnt tired.

logiesmummy

22-02-2009, 09:21

:flowerz:Morning Lovelies:flowerz:

Hope you are all having a lovely sunday morning all snug up in bed!!!

Von - Hope you had a great night at triva!! I love them night but just never seem to get the time to go! Hope the not sleeping is a good sign for you!

Lisa - Hope you had a nice couple of days being crafty!!! And blast that damn mr spot though i see you had a slight rise this morning!!:fingerscrossed: for you!

Kaz- How are you doing loevely?

Meg - Blast the rain and af for arriveing! That sucks! Are you doing another market soon?

Alana - Have you guys set a date?

Christine - When i was pregnant with ds i wasthe same just wished i had a sign that i was really truely pregnant! Then at 6 and a half weeks the MS hit and i never wished it again!!! Hopefully it will arrive soon and you will feel a bit more at ease!

AFM - I have been feeling pretty crappy with headaches and stuff for the last two weeks so heading off to the doctors on tuesday! Still Studying very hard and Exceriseing like my life depends on it! Well i guess realy it does! Especially since i want another bub so bad! I have rode 84kms in four days, Had last night off as dh was home and it was his only night this week. :banghead: So back on to it tonight. I aim to at leat ride 120 kms beofre friday. Thats the aim any way. As well as doing my bike i am at the gym three days and also doing my wii fit. so surely i will start loseing weght soon. I also brought that book by Michelle bridges (the lady from the biggest loser) and i am pretty ashamed i to admit but i have been eating double the calories i should be a day. I was completely shocked! So now i havae everything under control hopefully it will start to disappear. I am due to o some time the middle of next week and of course dh won't be home so not looking to good for this cycle! Oh well i need to lose more weight first anyway. Ok since i have writtena an essay i best be off and get my ds out of the bath. Chat soon and hope you all have a lovely day!

mrmoosmum

22-02-2009, 11:11

Morning all

Alana - sorry to hear AF arrived and the heavens opened at your markets. Hope you got some good sales in before then.

Debi - wow - you are a machine - hopefully the exercise and healthy eating will get you a bfp - just as soon as DH turns up. Mine travels occassionally and often at o time too. It is so frustrating.

Crafty - saw the slight temp rise this morning too and no little spot asterix. Were you tempted to test this morning? Hope you can get a nana nap when DD has her sleep. When is DH getting home?

Had a great night at trivia - next time we are going to have a girls vs boys team as the boys wouldn't listen to us and turned out we knew more. This morning we went to the markets for our veges and some local delicacies. Will head out for our usual sunday drinks and plane watching after DS's nap (and mine).

Have a lovely Sunday :).

Craftymum

22-02-2009, 13:21

Debi - Wow, you go girl! You are doing so well with the exercise, I am sure that now you have the calories in check you will definately see that weight fall off. Fingers crossed DH can make it home for a quick pit stop during the week ;). Had a lovely time doing craft the past few days, now I have a 21st card order to make so trying to get some inspiration!

Von - Unfort still mr spot today, just arrived mid morning so havent entered it into FF yet. Feel a tad crampy and sore lower back so I think AF will be here in 48 hours. Boys vs Girls trivia night sounds like so much fun! DH got home at 11am this morning so spending a bit of time together today.

Ok I'm off to make DH a lasagna for dinner. Enjoy your Sunday ladies.

megB74

22-02-2009, 15:29

Morning all

Alana - sorry to hear AF arrived and the heavens opened at your markets. Hope you got some good sales in before then.

Ahhh Von? I think you'll find the Markets and AF arriving and rain all at same time was me??? Lol:laughing:

keziah

22-02-2009, 18:22

Hi all, hope you all had a wonderful weekend. I have to share this coz it shocked me but on Friday I was at work, went to loo, did a CM check because I felt a bit damp and my oh my, a bucket of stretchy fertile CM. I couldn't believe it. So home to DH it was....haha

The changes I made this mth, added Calcium to my pill popping alongside of my pre-O EPO (Evening Primrose Oil), my preconception multi and fish oils. Oh and zinc when I remember. I have also been eating loads of baby carrots (which can also improve CM quality and quantity) and have lost 3kgs (which is so important if you have any sort of Polycystic presentation).....just thought I would share that in case any of you lovely ladies need to assist your CM production. Soooooooooooo hopefully I O'd Day 15 which should give me a normal length cycle this mth instead of last mth's 40 day stressor. PS: I even took a photo of the unbelievably stretch CM on my camera phone in the loo and had a right laff about it with DH at home. Can you just imagine explaining to little Johnny - this is how Mummy and Daddy made you, belly laff hehehehehahahaha Oh well you gotta keep a sense of humour thru all of this and if someone had told me this eeeeeuuuuuwwwwwwyyyyy stuff would be carried out and I would be getting excited about it I would have stared in disbelief, now if feels strangly 'normal'.....hahaha

How is everyone else doin?

Have a beautiful eve ladies....x

mrmoosmum

22-02-2009, 21:08

Meg - whoops! Sorry about that - my thoughts were directed your way. It has been one of those days though...

Keziah - yay for EWCM - I'll include the calcium in next months lineup.

AFM - turns out mr spots cousin has come to stay at my place, right on 9DPO and AF should be here tomorrow at only 10DPO. I've taken vitex (liquid form - tastes horrible), B6 and zinc for months with no impact yet. Today was also my due date for m/c #2 from last year.

Craftymum

22-02-2009, 21:38

Von - :hugs: about mr spot. He is a real pain isnt he..... Sorry to hear today is your due date from your lost little one, hope you indulged in something just for you :)

Keziah - LOL too funny about he pic! Not sure I could share that sort of stuff with my DH :laughing: Fingers crossed you caught the egg. That EPO is great stuff isnt it :thumbsup:

mrmoosmum

23-02-2009, 09:46

Morning all

Well big temp drop for me this morning so as expected another month over. Decided that this is my last month of trying just with supplements. Heading to Cairns around CD23 - CD26 I think for progesterone monitoring and to get some clomid. As long as they give it to me of course. Try that for the next 4 months and then reassess. Still waiting for DH to get a SA done - he is taking supplements to improve his too - multi, macca, arginine, zinc etc.

So for my last month before heading down the FS path I am going to be super healthy. Am doing a detox for the next week. Started with a salt flush this morning and am juice and protein shake fasting until Wednesday. Every time I detox I get preggers (3 times last year) so it is easy to stick too - no food beats a baby. On the supplement lineup I take a multi, omega 3, EPO, zinc, B vits, calcium magnesium (a new one after keziah's recommendation), and then my chinese herbs (QFG approved). Plus my herbal blend with vitex and other delicious tasting herbs and coconut oil. I'm going to follow most of the diet recommendations in the book "The Fertility Diet" - pretty full on, but worth a shot.

Crafty - I see your temps are still up. I am still holding out hope for you testing buddy. I liked your advice about treating yourself - had a final glass of wine last night and am booking myself a massage for later in the week.

XavysMummy

23-02-2009, 10:40

Today was also my due date for m/c #2 from last year.

Sorry to hear about your due date, I had mine earlier this month from MC#2 and its a hard milestone to hit....:hugs: to you sweetie.

Kez~congrats on the "super CM"...sounds fantastic.....and kinda gross....lol

AFM~ I still havent started MC'ing, I'm gonna go have another HCG bloodtest for my own piece of mind and then get my OB to do a D&C. I'm ready to move to the next step and can't do that untill my darling chickpea passes.
I'm still hanging at home, I'm gonna start sewing up my Pram Cocoons again and sell them on ebay.

Craftymum

23-02-2009, 12:51

Von - Sounds like a plan. I hope it all works for you, and you can only keep trying different things and one day one WILL work :yes:. Lol about my chart.... I actually still have a niggly back which is a bit weird for me but spotting is all usual so I reckon she will be right on time either tomorrow night or Wednesday morning :rolleyes:

Bertie50

23-02-2009, 14:25

Hi girls,

I have been reading your thread and was wondering if I could join you? You seem like an amazing bunch of women, and so supportive that I would love to join you... too bad it is under these circumstances tho.

Let me tell you a bit of our story. I am 34 and DH is 36. We have been married 13 years. We have been TTC#1 for 12 months now - this month doesn't look good for me as my temp is on the downward slide... couldn't face work today as am too :crying:

It has been a long road to get this far and I can't stand the thought that it might not work out. Many years ago I did the rounds of specilalists as I find BD uncomfortable and can be burning hot so it is often painful. They weren't much help and one gyno even suggested it was in my head. I have exzema elsewhere and also have very sensitive skin so maybe it is is too sensitive for BD :confused:

Nevertheless we have been TTC for the past year. To cope with the discomfort (sorry if TMI) DH usually goes in at the last moment as I can't take the thrusting for too long so we are thinking that this delivery technique might be part of our trouble as the little guys are often not delivered deeply.

We have had some tests - DHs seminanalysis results were good - he was :laughing: when he found out he had a large volume and the other stats were good too.

My gp is happy that my temps show I am ovulatory and my Day 21 progesterone test showed I ovulated that cycle. She said it was quite high so I might be pregnant... but I wasn't.

I have a referal to a gyno but am now waiting what seems like forever for my appointment to come at the end of March. A friend who has just been successful on IVF thought I should have got a referal direct to Repromed but my GP wouldn't have it - so I am off to the gyno first.

We have been using MaybeBaby and FF for most of the 12 months. We now bought some Preseed ready for the next round of BD. I have been reading lots and it feels like my life revolves around TTC.

Does anyone have any suggestions for my BD issues? I was wondering if we should try to shoot it up there somehow with a syringe or something?... whats that old saying - bring out the turkey baster? :laughing:

I have also been thinking that I should get some OPKs as I have just been relying on my BBTing and MaybeBaby as my cycles are pretty regular. I have read that it is easier to test with the type that just have the one line rather than one where you are comparing to another line so was wondering what brand to get and where it is cheapest to get these from - since it sounds like I might need a whole lot of em!

Anyway that is anough from me! I hope my stay here is short and sweet but somehow I don't think it will be :no:

Goodluck to you all!
:hugs:

XavysMummy

23-02-2009, 14:42

Welcome Bertie, I hope your stay is short and sweet. Good luck:flowerz:

Craftymum

23-02-2009, 16:30

Bertie - Welcome, its a very supportive thread here and the girls are all really helpful. Re your BD issue, personally I think the preseed will work wonders.... its fantastic stuff :). It is however expensive. So you either try to just use half, or only use it on the couple of days leading up to and after ovulation. Just remember to get rid of the excess prior to BD - you need to read the instructions properly... I wasted my first dose of it as I didnt read that bit , just got straight into it :laughing:.
Some doctors will refer you straight to a fertility specialists, others like you to go to a gyno first, but all a gyno will probably do is the progesterone BT's and possibly a couple of others, possibly a laparoscopy. Have you thought about maybe IUI? It might be a good option for you given that your bd isnt optimal? might work quickly for you, less invasive than IVF and a lot less costly!

Bertie50

23-02-2009, 17:34

Kaz - thankyou for the welcome. I am so sorry to hear what you have been through :hugs: 2u.

Craftymum - thanx for the info. I have just read the instructions for the preseed and now I see what you mean about getting rid of the excess! That is an expensive waste of v. expensive lubricant :) IUI sounds like a good option but I guess I just need to get through the gyno's tests before getting the referral that I need for that.

ps. I too love scrapping (since 2006) and I did card making for 10 years before that! :D

mrmoosmum

23-02-2009, 21:16

Bertie - welcome to the thread - hope you get off the rollercoaster quickly. Preseed do a 'rest of the month' lubricant as well - doesn't contain as much of the special ingredient but doesn't cost as much and comes in a tube so you can use what you need.

AFM - still just spotting, so I'll have a 28 day cycle at least this month and my LP is a day longer - still only 11 days which isn't good enough but an improvement - and who knows, maybe AF won't come tomorrow either.

Kaz - sorry to hear that you haven't m/c'd naturally yet.

Crafty - :fingerscrossed: that niggly back means something.

keziah

24-02-2009, 09:13

Hey everyone, grrrrr don't ya just hate it when FF changes your chart, it is saying I now O earlier than when I think I did and it's putting me at 7dpo.....hmmmmm, I don't think so FF!!! I just think the temp drop today was an oestrogen fallback rise in my LP. So gonna stick with my theory but just see how my chart plays out.

How is everyone else? Welcome Bertie, if you are having BD probs, any stinging or burning should be investigated thoroughly to rule out allergies (are you using any man-made lubricants), if not, maybe this will help with discomfort. Yes I have heard pre-seed is good. Might be good to seek out a sex therapist as well as they may tap into something that is causing the physical symptoms, this doesn't mean 'it's all in your head, but they may have some valuable tools to help.

Also diet, if there are too many foods that are fermented in the diet (ie cheese, olives, pickles, alcohol etc etc) this may cause a candida (yeast) overgrowth that may be causing a low grade infection that is enough to make sex very very uncomfortable (ie vaginitis). A good probiotic (in fridge section of health shop/chemist) would help. And perhaps even consider your foreplay, if a woman is not brought to a comfortable 'aroused' state this can cause dryness so taking things nice and sloooowwwww. Also check out a natural route to include things in your diet that could increase CM (ie Baby carrots and green tea pre-O may help).

Welcome. Hope your stay is short n sweet!!!:yes:

mrmoosmum

24-02-2009, 09:38

Morning all

Keziah - it is great having such a knowledgeable person in here. This is my first month using FF so haven't yet experienced the frustrations you often hear from others. I still think EWCM is the best O sign rather than temps so fingers crossed you caught the egg.

AFM - temp rise again this morning and couldn't help myself - did a HPT - got a BFP. It is light but photographable and I'm only 11DPO. But still spotting and it is heavier today. I only spot with pregnancies that aren't going to last (and this is my 6th, not counting chemcial ones) so trying (pretty unsuccessfully) not to get my hopes up.

XavysMummy

24-02-2009, 10:03

Morning all

AFM - temp rise again this morning and couldn't help myself - did a HPT - got a BFP. It is light but photographable and I'm only 11DPO. But still spotting and it is heavier today. I only spot with pregnancies that aren't going to last (and this is my 6th, not counting chemcial ones) so trying (pretty unsuccessfully) not to get my hopes up.

I really hope this is a sticky one Von:fingerscrossed:

megB74

24-02-2009, 11:49

Morning Ladies,

Keeping fingers crossed for you Von, the sooner we all get off this rollercoaster the better as far as I'm concerned!

Am on tail end of AF for me - had a bigger of a 2 days with it this time round and have no idea why. Only thing I'd done differently was change brand of Multi, I wouldn't have thought it would make that big a difference.

Still knitting furiously here - have lovely new pattern for all in one boleros, am onto the 3rd one now! Lol

Craftymum

24-02-2009, 12:32

Von - OMG! Congratulations on your bfp! I have everything crossed for you that this is a sticky one..... Goodluck hun!

AFM - Still spotting..... 14 dpo today, so one things for sure it is I definately have a consistently good LP I guess! Temp drop this morning so I suspect AF here in 24 hours.

mrmoosmum

24-02-2009, 14:25

keziah

24-02-2009, 21:56

Crafty - stupid temp drop - I've been stalking your chart and was so hopeful for you - it has stayed up much longer this cycle.

Meg - sorry to hear AF has been treating you badly.

Thanks for your good wishes. Not really sure what to think - if it is a sticker I need to leave the malaria zone, but don't want to go rushing off and then AF turn up. I'm only 10 or 11DPO so a prime candidate for a chemical pregnancy, but the line came up almost immediately. Who knows.

Went to the gym for some moderate exercise today, then out to lunch with DH and now planning a nana nap.

Could be implantation :yelclap::yelclap::yelclap: Oooohhh here's hoping but of course I understand your concerns. Good luck... How long is your LP normally?

I took off with a friend for lunch today and went into one of those tiny wee asian stores that sell herbs and saw the practitioner there that couldn't speak any English but appeared old and wise. I was drawn to her and with some help from the other ladies in the shop my desire to fall preggars was conveyed and she did a pulse and tongue diagnosis and then for the next 30mins they made up an incredible amt of herbs to take for the next 6 days....I was fascinated, then I got home and boiled them down to a mere cup and (oh my :barf:) - not quite but not for the faint hearted, hehe, however at this stage of the game I would drink it standing on my head whilst reciting the alphabet backwards...haha I am already 'feeling' more fertile hehe c'mon asian herby derbies, do ur thang!!!

mrmoosmum

24-02-2009, 22:18

Keziah - I am a big fan of TCM. This is the first month in ages that I've taken herbs from my acupuncturist and so far so good! I used to get the ones from him that you boil up and they are disgusting, but now take capsules that he mails out - including overseas. DH has been taking his supplements as well.

ringneck

25-02-2009, 08:30

have to catch up on posts
Von congrats on your bfp :goodvibes: fingers crossed it's sticky.
Lisa :hugs:just peeked at your chart so sorry af arrived your chart was looking fantastic this cycle.
What will the plans be now?
Kaz i've been thinking of you :hugs:

Craftymum

25-02-2009, 12:28

Alana - Thanks :hugs:. Next is good ol' cycle 3 of clomid, I have 4 all up.... How you going?

Keziah - Gotta love the taste of those herbs hey! I actually grew to like them through my journey with accupuncture :laughing:

Von - Hows the spotting going, dissapearing at all? I am not sure if you posted but how did your dh react to the bfp?

kath87

25-02-2009, 12:31

Hi girls,
I have a quick question for any one who can be bothered to replay haha,
I am in the middle of the stangest AF ATM im sorry if this is TMI but i need some advice lol, ok i dont normaly spot befor AF so maybe this is all that it is but my AF use to be very regular and then i had a m/c and it has never gone back to normal that was in december just gone, any way so about 3 day ago i got what i thought was the very start of af it was brown and really light (only there when i wipe) this is normal for me on day one and normaly just half a day at that, but im now on day 3 and today will be 15DPO and its still just brown when i wipe i dont think im UTD as we werent trying this month but i just dont know if this is what spoting befor Af is???

Craftymum

25-02-2009, 13:07

Kath, this is what I have but from 11dpo till when AF arrives on 15dpo. If its not normal for you then I guess yes, it could be implantation spotting.... have you done a hpt?

ringneck

25-02-2009, 15:13

Lisa 4 cycles that's good hopefully this one is the one :fingerscrossed:
Kath i agree with lisa if it's not normal do a hpt good luck
Debi you are a machine what was it 80 odd kms that is fantastic yeah we've set a date 1st may 2010 so a little while away but time flies so may as well get organised.
sorry to anyone i forgot my brain has been fried lately hope you are all well i wont go into details but am under a fair amount of stress atm so i think this cycle will be a wasted effort.

mrmoosmum

25-02-2009, 15:34

Hello lovelies

Kath - pinkish/brownish spotting is what I've had for the last few days - it is what I normally get for 1-3 days before AF and if I hadn't been temping I wouldn't have done a HPT. You never know - these things can happen when you least expect them.

Crafty - so sorry AF is here - your chart had looked so good. Spotting comes and goes so although it seems less today I'm sure I haven't seen the end of it. As for telling DH - he was out running so I popped the test in his porridge bowl. He hadn't seen a test before and read it wrong - "2 lines - not pregnant". So had to explain it to him. He then went and took all his sperm supplements - a bit of denial I think. (Oh - and he got a fresh porridge bowl!)

Ringneck - 2010 and your wedding will be here before you know it. Sorry to hear life has been stressful for you lately - hope things improve soon.

Debi - meant to mention something earlier - 80km on the bike is huge. I rode for the first time on Monday and it was so hard and took forever.

AFM - took another test this morning and was darker, but my temp dropped 0.1 degrees C, so not sure if that is a bad thing or a normal variation - my thermometer only does to one decimal place. Spotting might be improving. Feeling very bad about the drinks I had once the spotting showed - it is the main time I drink each month but I was tricked this time. Hope it is OK if I stick around here a bit longer - I'm not ready to go to the due in thread yet - it was horrible having to go around everywhere in December and say it was a false alarm.

Craftymum

25-02-2009, 16:15

Von - Too cute about the porridge bowl! I dont mind if you hang around in here! Love the chats :)
Alana - Hope everything is ok :hugs:

kath87

25-02-2009, 20:48

Hi girls,
Thanks for the feed back, any way must have been spoting because I got Af tonight,No dramas but as we have decided to stop TTC but i was just surprised by the spoting as its not normal for me but my cycle seems to be doing something different every month since december lol Thanks again Xoxo

Craftymum

25-02-2009, 22:08

Kath - :hugs:, she's a wrench that AF! Doesnt she know she's not welcome?? :)

Bertie50

25-02-2009, 23:46

Von - :smiliedance:congrats! :fingerscrossed: for u. Thanx for the preseed info. I have not seen their general use one - will have to look into getting some.

Keziah - thanx for all the info - you are a fountain of knowledge! Hope the chinese herbs do their thing. Definately worth a try if you can keep em down ;)

Meg - sorry to hear AF has arrived aaarrghhh. Just wondering why are you doing so much knitting?

Crafty - bummer the witch is on her way.

AFM - still waiting for AF which is due any day now. I normally have cramps a couple of days before but no sign of them...but am feeling a bit :barf:(probably just my irritable bowl playing up tho). My temp has just been holding the last couple of days - shouldn't it be going up if I was UTD? I am so impatient and am sick of the wait so I think I will test in the morning if she hasn't shown. I don't normally test - just wait for AF but I keep thinking of the HPT in the cupboard... I really just need to be put out of my misery and then will be able to drown my sorrows with a nice glass of wine after work :laughing:.

Bit worried about tomorrow night - am having dinner with a friend who was never having kids and got UTD while on the pill - she is due soon. Don't think I could handle too much baby talk at the mo. Bring on the wine!

:hugs:

XavysMummy

26-02-2009, 10:33

Hi Ladies

thanks for thinking of me....just thought I'd give you an update
No curette booked at this stage....there are some concerns about me having another GA as I was 'under' only 11wks ago, so this would make the 3rd GA in 6-7mths. I am gonna wait a bit longer and see how I go. Still nothing 'happening' naturally at this stage and my Progesterone and Estrogen is still right up there....I get my HCG BT results today to check if they are starting to come down.

So the waiting continues.....

megB74

26-02-2009, 11:53

Meg - sorry to hear AF has arrived aaarrghhh. Just wondering why are you doing so much knitting?

Ahh - It would be me the market stallholder knitting for my market stall, am also selling Lisa's cards? Have been designing some of my own patterns too this last week which have come out beautifully even if I do say so myself! :laughing:

Kaz - you must be going insane:hugs:

Craftymum

26-02-2009, 14:03

Meg - Fingers crossed for this weekend! My mum has just sold 16 cards at work so woo hoo!

Kaz - We've chatted on msn, you know I'm thinking of you and here to chat anytime :hugs:

I just finished this cardi (http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj240/Craftymum74/Sarahs2yocardigan.jpg)for Sarah for winter, now I can get on to some cute bubba patterns meg has shared with me!

mrmoosmum

26-02-2009, 16:45

Kaz - so sorry you are having to wait for the m/c, especially when you are ready to move forward. Another BHer in a similar situation to yours was given medication to help get things moving - is this an option for you? Alternatively, could they use heavy sedation? This was offered to me in Qld for my D&C as GAs knock me around so much. Thinking of you and hoping things get moving soon on their own.

Crafty - you are a clever chook. I had to rely on my mum to knit jumpers for my little boy. Not that he needs them up here.

Bertie - I got the regular preseed and the additional tube of lube from lullaby conceptions. Hope that AF didn't show for you this morning. Charting totally tricked me this month. I was my first month of doing it and my temp dropped at the same time as me spotting so I assumed AF was coming. It was only when it went back up again that I decided to do a HPT.

Meg - :fingerscrossed: for no rain on Saturday.

AFM - still spotting although it is very light today. Stupidly DTD last night and got lots of red blood. Won't be doing that again in a hurry. Also bought a couple of HPTs from a chemist here - supposed to detect at 25 mg/ml (or whatever the unit it). Did one yesterday arvo and another this morning with FMU and both BFNs. Not even a hint of a shadow or anything. I have 4 FRs left so I might use another one tomorrow. My temp is still up today.

logiesmummy

26-02-2009, 17:25

hey ladies

Sorry i haven't posted in a while been soooo busy. we got notice given to us today o the house we are renting so have 60 days to find a new one. Though we were moving out anyway. Just not that soon. I have been flat out tryingto catch up on study and house work and looking after logan. It just hasn't stopped.

Von - Wow i must of missed something are congratulations in order????

Lisa - That cardi is devine! I wish at times i could knit.

OK must get back to it! Oh it never stops!

Alana - Happy Birthday girl!! Hope all is ok!

Kaz - Oh lovey i am sending you all my :hugs: and hope you know i am there any time you need a chat!

Meg - How is ya!!!

Hello to all you lovely new ladies!!! Hope to get to know you soon!