January 2009 January 2009 Thread - And so it begins! [Archive]

epiphany

06-01-2009, 00:07

I know J was technically a Dec birth but I'm going to hang out with the Jan girls ;)

J has her 4 week check up tomorrow (well...today, I guess). Although she's really only almost 3 weeks. But she's changed so much already & is piling on the weight - so I guess she's feeding well :)

Her sleep has settled into more of a routine now. Initially she was having her awake time during the middle of the night (argh!) but now she has it during the afternoon/evening. Probably because I make my babies sleep in the lounge during the day & the bedroom at night, so they have lots of light & noise during the day & quiet & dark at night - helps them to differentiate between day & night. Also helps them to learn to sleep through anything (no point in the house being quiet all the time - especially with a toddler running round).

We've also been doing the eat-play-sleep routine (worked well for #2 so no reason not to stop with this one). But I don't bother with the playing during the morning, as she drops straight off to sleep after her feed. At the moment she just gets play during her awake time in the afternoon. We might put her in the swing or on the play mat...or show her some toys, sing, make faces, etc. J & her brother are very, very similar...my son was very strong & was lifting his head & moving it from side to side from birth - she does the same but seems even stronger than him. It's good but also a problem - L hated being wrapped & J is the same - she just breaks free if you wrap her (she's even strong enough to work her way out of the SwaddleMes, which have velcro fastenings!)...but she has much less startle reflex than L had, so it's not too much of an issue.

I'm pain free (yay for quick c-section recoveries) but finding the belly band I'm supposed to wear (due to abdominal muscle separation) really uncomfy :( Ahhh...the joys of post-birth...sigh.

*Sparkles*

06-01-2009, 18:45

Cordelia - I didn't realise you were still in hospital. I hope Daniel starts sucking better soon :fingerscrossed:

Epiphany - I am a dec mum too but I'm staying in here :) I think I would be lost in the dec thread anyway as they have all been chatting for ages.
We do the sleeping in the lounge thing too and cot at night. Alex can also turn his head when laying on his tummy, I took some photos;

Right side (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby2/Turning_right.jpg)
Turning (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby2/Turning_centre.jpg)
Left side (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/Hels-b/Baby2/Turning_left.jpg)

Jelly Baby

06-01-2009, 19:52

Hi Everyone,

Can I join you guys too? I was with the Due in January 2009 group but had little Bridie in December.

Glad to hear you're all doing well.

I might have to try this sleeping in the lounge during the day and cot at night thing because my little one seems to think the day is for sleeping and the night is for waking. I have been putting her in her rocker for a little while during the day but I might keep her up in it for longer. Where are your little ones sleeping while in the lounge during the day??

My little girl is 3 weeks old and is gaining weight well as I'm breastfeeding on demand.

Here she is in her rocker.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/Buddhaboy/01-01-09RockerTime.jpg

Cordelia

06-01-2009, 21:07

how did the check go epiphany?

Hels he is so cute :) and clever!!!

and Jelly, Bridie is beautiful too :)

leaving hospital tomorrow!! can't wait to get home and begin our new life!! yay!

GoneBatty

06-01-2009, 21:30

Hiya all

Today was day 4 for us here Alyssa isnt doing to badly but still working out the days from nights and has that period of wanting to be awake and unsettled smack bang in the middle of the night. Im sure it wont be long before she is sleeping better tho.

DS seems to have adjusted well im very proud of him. The only thing thats been a bit of trouble is he gets a bit snappy and back chatty at times but other than that he really hasnt been terribly behaved thank goodness!

Well thats all for now better go to bed and get some sleep before she decides its wake up time lol

Glad to here ur heading home tomorrow Cord goodluck with it!

*Sparkles*

07-01-2009, 11:47

I might have to try this sleeping in the lounge during the day and cot at night thing because my little one seems to think the day is for sleeping and the night is for waking. I have been putting her in her rocker for a little while during the day but I might keep her up in it for longer. Where are your little ones sleeping while in the lounge during the day??

My little girl is 3 weeks old and is gaining weight well as I'm breastfeeding on demand.

Here she is in her rocker.

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/Buddhaboy/01-01-09RockerTime.jpg

Awww... she looks so gorgeous and comfy in her rocker :)

I started with the basinette in the lounge but Alex hates it, so now he sleeps in the strider pram during the day with an insert and head support. It's pretty good because if he is unsettled I walk him around the house to get him to go off. And I can move him to another room if my toddler is being noisy and feral.
Bubs also hates being wrapped so we are using sleeping bags at night. At night he sleeps well in his cot, I bought an insert sleeper thing for that too as he looked so little and lost in the cot!

It takes a few weeks to get the days and nights sorted. During the day, keep giving bubs some stimulation like the rocker, lay her on the floor on a play mat or towel, do some tummy time too. They say bubs should be awake for approx 1 - 1 1/2 hours including the feeding time. Any longer than this and they get over tired. At night it's just feed, nappy change and back to bed with no fuss.

:wave: Hi Gone Batty, glad to hear all is well with you.

epiphany

07-01-2009, 15:17

Where are your little ones sleeping while in the lounge during the day??

J sleeps in a removable insert in the cot, so I just take it out & put it on one of the sofas in the lounge. Voila - instant bed :)

how did the check go epiphany?

Apparently the check up she had last week wasn't her 2nd week check up but some other one (?? when they turned up to see my son, it was the 2nd week check up, so have no idea what's happening this time). Anyway...this week was the 2nd week check up (she's 3 weeks tomorrow) & she's put on around 400g in week...roughly 500g since birth. She's now the same weight as my son was when he was born (&, funnily enough, is about the same age as she was early & he was late...so I wonder if they would have been pretty similar if I'd not had an elective? She was exactly the same length & head circ as him when she was born...just a bit lighter). The nurse was very pleased with her...not just because she's gaining a good amount of weight but also because of head strength, etc. So it's all good :smiliedance:

I made an executive decision last night & started removing my steri strips from the c-section (was supposed to wait until they came off on their own but they haven't done this yet) - they were starting to go yucky (getting water underneath & I wasn't able to dry them properly) & I've been reacting to them ever since they were put on (argh! They drive me crazy!). Such a relief to have them off!

Awwww...love looking at the pics of everyone's little darlings - they're so cute!!!

*Sparkles*

08-01-2009, 09:16

Apparently the check up she had last week wasn't her 2nd week check up but some other one (?? when they turned up to see my son, it was the 2nd week check up, so have no idea what's happening this time). Anyway...this week was the 2nd week check up (she's 3 weeks tomorrow) & she's put on around 400g in week...roughly 500g since birth. She's now the same weight as my son was when he was born (&, funnily enough, is about the same age as she was early & he was late...so I wonder if they would have been pretty similar if I'd not had an elective? She was exactly the same length & head circ as him when she was born...just a bit lighter). The nurse was very pleased with her...not just because she's gaining a good amount of weight but also because of head strength, etc. So it's all good.

I made an executive decision last night & started removing my steri strips from the c-section (was supposed to wait until they came off on their own but they haven't done this yet) - they were starting to go yucky (getting water underneath & I wasn't able to dry them properly) & I've been reacting to them ever since they were put on (argh! They drive me crazy!). Such a relief to have them off!

I ended up ringing the MCHN after 2 weeks as I hadn't heard from them, so they have booked the first appt for tomorrow and the nurse is coming to the house. Alex will be 17 days old and we were supposed to have the first appt within the first week :rolleyes: He hasn't even been weighed since we left hospy! I wonder if we slipped through the cracks due to Christmas. But seeing as you are in the same council area as me (Casey) perhaps they have just been a bit slack or swampped with new bubs? By the way, I see a nurse from Littlecroft, which centre do you use?

I also removed my steri strips the other day as the scar was starting to feel quite tight and it has helped a lot. Today is my first day with no pain relief, as I was still taking 2 nurofens when I got up due to being quite stiff.

Is your scar a bit hard in places and itchy at times? I'm wondering if this is part of the healing process? This was my first caesar so I'm not sure what to expect with the scar.

Cordelia

08-01-2009, 14:26

hi everyone,

Daniel is asleep! and DD is asleep!! Score!! But instead of sleeping myself.. i'm here. Idiot!

My boobs KILL.. I'm terrified of mastitis. It's so hard to know how much to express.. i have milk just pourind out of me 24 hours a day but I dont want to express too much to avoid producing more!!! Daniel feeds pretty well but after 4 hours I'm just aching to feed him. I woke him up last night to get some relief!!

Sleeping - Feed him at 10 when we went to bed last night, woke him up at 2 to feed him and then at 6 when we woke up in this morning so can't really complain about that. I can't believe how different he is to DD who screamed from 5pm til 2am every day. (maybe that's yet to come??!)

scar - mine's fairly itchy too. I had staples so a bit different. My main concern is keeping it dry because (this is going to sound disgusting) all my flabby baby fat hangs over it and the weather is really hot in Perth right now and it gets sweaty. I actually stuck a maternity pad under my flab yesterday and that helped. But yes, normal to be itchy!! And can't do much for it?? (I've seen creams but midwife said to not put anything on it.. just air it as much as possible>?)

ok that's too much sleep time wasted!! Have a nice night everyone :)

epiphany

08-01-2009, 16:04

I ended up ringing the MCHN after 2 weeks as I hadn't heard from them, so they have booked the first appt for tomorrow and the nurse is coming to the house. Alex will be 17 days old and we were supposed to have the first appt within the first week :rolleyes: He hasn't even been weighed since we left hospy! I wonder if we slipped through the cracks due to Christmas. But seeing as you are in the same council area as me (Casey) perhaps they have just been a bit slack or swampped with new bubs? By the way, I see a nurse from Littlecroft, which centre do you use?

I also removed my steri strips the other day as the scar was starting to feel quite tight and it has helped a lot. Today is my first day with no pain relief, as I was still taking 2 nurofens when I got up due to being quite stiff.

Is your scar a bit hard in places and itchy at times? I'm wondering if this is part of the healing process? This was my first caesar so I'm not sure what to expect with the scar.

Snap! Littlecroft here too! So you must be quite close to us (relatively speaking). I'm in Berwick Springs.

Actually, I had to fend the nurses off - they kept phoning on my son's birthday asking if they could come round that day to check J (but I was always busy) - then they phoned the next day to say they'd be round the day after. They should also have booked you in for the next 4 visits? (I had to change mine as the times wouldn't have worked for us). But when I went to change the appointments, they did say they're quite busy - so maybe that's why you somehow slipped through (although I'm still a bit surprised - they're normally pretty good about making sure you're all booked in).

Congrats on reaching no pain relief :smiliedance: It gets heaps easier from here on.

My scar is quite itchy but more because of ingrown hair than the actual scar (blimmin steri strips...grr). My 1st & 2nd c-section scars used to get quite numb in places (which went away eventually) but I don't recall them being hard as such. It could be scar tissue developing or maybe fluid buildup? I've heard that heat & massage can help with fluid buildup (caused by irritation along the scar)...might also help with scar tissue (not sure)? If you're at all worried, talk to your ob. And if you notice weeping, smelliness or heat, then go straight back to the ob for antibiotics. Another thing I find helps is to dry it off with a hairdryer - you can get a bit of an overhang from your belly & it makes the scar stay damp but the hairdryer helps heaps.

Logan&KodasMumma

08-01-2009, 17:01

hi everyone,

My boobs KILL.. I'm terrified of mastitis. It's so hard to know how much to express.. i have milk just pourind out of me 24 hours a day but I dont want to express too much to avoid producing more!!! Daniel feeds pretty well but after 4 hours I'm just aching to feed him. I woke him up last night to get some relief!!

i talked to my mw about this today (im on midcall) and expressing till your bobs soften is the best thing for it, also feel your boobs for any lumps, if u find any massage them. For the next couple of weeks u can express, and the milk will settle down. i know the pain your going through.

Koda is perfect(doting mummy here) he's pretty much slept through every night. but he likes to be close to me so we're co sleeping :)

POOING- i cant believe wat a little poo machine ive given birth to. everytime dh holds him he's completely buggers his nappy!!

He had his first shower today. Made him very sleepy n cuddly..

DH is cooking tonight :) might have another shower with my snuggle bub :)

*Sparkles*

08-01-2009, 18:15

Epiphany - I live at Lynbrook but I switched to the Littlecroft centre after I did mother's group there with DS1. I didn't like my original MCHN who was at Hampton Park.
They told me on the phone that they have pre-booked the future appts and the nurse will run through the dates with me tomorrow. I can't wait to see what my little man weighs as I know he has put on a fair bit, he has nice chubby cheeks now lol.

Thanks for all the info on the CS scar, I think everything is normal and it's actually feeling a lot better since I took the steri strips off. But I am keeping an eye on things and keeping it clean and dry. I tried to help DH with some gardening today but thought better of it when I felt a few twinges.

mumof4 - Sounds like you have a nice settled baby there.

We are plodding along fine, Alex is sleeping better at night and he's a pretty good baby. He is quite laid back and cuddly which is different to how DS1 was. He is quite content most of the time so long as his needs are taken care of quickly as he hates having a dirty nappy or waiting for a bottle :)

I had PND after DS1 but this time I'm feeling very relaxed and in control so I hope things stay that way :fingerscrossed:

*Sparkles*

09-01-2009, 16:16

Very quiet in here, you must all have lives :laughing: I hope all bubs are being nice and settled.

Had our first MCHN appt today and Alex has gained 560g since leaving hospital. He is also developing really well :yelclap:

He's been a bit unsettled today so I'm not sure what's wrong but he had a power spew earlier so maybe he has some tummy pains.
Hopefully he will sleep well tonight :fingerscrossed:

How's everyone else doing?

epiphany

10-01-2009, 15:55

Hels - you're not far from us at all, really.

As for poo...I swear J precision aims hers. She invariably manages to get milk, poo or urine (& sometimes all three) on me every time I go anywhere near her.

The house has quietened down a bit now that we only have 1 visitor left (we had up to 6 at one point). We're getting back into our usual routine, which has helped heaps (the kids have settled down a bit - they were quite hyper with everyone here). My son starts toilet training this weekend...yay!

Hope everyone is doing well!

GoneBatty

10-01-2009, 18:40

Heya all,

Alyssa had her 1 week check yesterday and she is nealy back to her birth weight (25grams off) which the health nurse said was great! I wasnt worried bout her gain tho because she has been quite a little guts :laughing:

She has been sleeping great the last 2 nights only woke once over night and woke up at 8am this morning DP asked me why 8am felt like a sleep in hehe.

Other than that theres not really much else to report I was invited to a 21st tonight but dont think ill be going. As much as id love to catch up with quite a few ppl i havent seen in a long time i think i better just stay home and be mummy!

Hope you all are well

Cordelia

10-01-2009, 23:45

It's a lot quieter in here than the "due date" thread!! I think we're all a bit busier!!

I have a quick personal question about bleeding (sorry for TMI) ..... mine is light pinkish-brown like it should be however when I'm breastfeeding I get a big surge of bright red blood. Does anyone else experience that or should I go see the doctor?? I don't want to have an infection!!

gonebatty - that's awesome about the sleeps you're getting :) I think Daniel might give us some good sleeps too but I'm waking him every 4 hours as he lost a bit more than his 10% birth weight.

allrighty too tired! night everyone :)

epiphany

10-01-2009, 23:53

Cordelia - it's normal. It's because breastfeeding stimulates your uterus to contract & you often get additional bleeding as a result. You may also find it comes & goes near the end - "gushes" one day & almost nothing the next (at least, that's what I have always had after my births). Hope that helps :)

muminwaiting

11-01-2009, 07:29

Hi Girls,

I am stickig here as well even though bub came in December.....I don't want to start over again with a new group.:D

I am really struggling with breastfeeding....Heres what happended last night....

Fed Holly around 6pm which lasted around an hour, she would have been feeding for around 20mins each side the rest was breaks and burping......she was unsettled after and didn't really sleep, she then had another feed around 8.30pm, which lasted until 12.30pm with her screaming everytime I took her off my boob, even after she fell asleep on it. She only settled after I made her up a bottle.Yesterday everytime I picked he up she was going straight for my breast and nuzzling, she was hungry all day and I didn't seem to have much milk, my boobs are not aching like cordelia's. My nipples are killing me though they are so sore...I have tears running down my face when she is feeding..

I feel like the worst mum in the world for giving her the bottle of formula, the midwives have made me feel like if I gave in as they called it and gave her a bottle, I may as well drown her now because I have wrecked her whole life...( a little dramatic I know but that is the way they make me feel)....but it seems ok for her to scream with hunger or for me to be feeding constantly and crying and I am starting to get depressed about it..

Is anyone else bottle feeding formula, What brand are you using?.....I don't know how to get it out of my head that I am not a bad parent for giving her formula....I am actually sitting her typing and crying because i feel so guilty about it.....:(

epiphany

11-01-2009, 10:57

MIW...big hugs, hun. You're not a bad mum because you're giving bubs a bottle...you're a good mum because bubs is getting the food she needs.

I breast & bottle fed baby #1 - I had problems establishing feeding initially but we went on to being able to breast *and* bottle fed until she self-weaned at 12 months. She's now a healthy 12 year old & the dreaded bottle doesn't seem to have done her any harm :) Can't help with brands, I'm afraid, but it may be a matter of just finding what works for you.

One thing you may want to check, if you're still wanting to breastfeed, is your attachment - if bubs isn't getting enough & your nipples are hurting enough to make you cry, then it sounds like she might not be attaching properly? Did the hospital help with establishing feeding? It might be worth getting in touch with someone from La Leche or possibly Maternal Health to see if someone could help.

Another reason for sore nipples could be a graze or injury...try airing them out & getting a bit of sunlight on them. Breastmilk (let it dry) or Lansinoh can also help healing. But you need to work out what is causing the pain (incorrect attachment, "biting", etc).

Not everyone's breasts ache during feeding. It's normal for them to feel full & heavy & they may ache during the first couple of days when your milk comes in but once that settles down, they don't really ache unless they're engorged or something else is going on (at least, that's been my experience...I guess it will differ from person to person). So don't use that as a guide to whether or not you're producing any milk. She'll also go through several growth spurts where she'll feed almost constantly, in an effort to build up your milk supply - annoying for you but good for the long term...that may be what was going on yesterday? It's also normal for very new babies or particularly "sucky" babies (babies that have a strong need to suckle, even when they're not hungry) to feed for a longer than "normal" time - new babies are getting used to everything & building up the supply...sucky babies like the sensation (#2 was a sucky baby & I ended up resorting to using a dummy to get him to go to sleep - he ditched it himself as soon as he had enough control over his hands to suck them instead). But, again, it all sounds more like bubs just isn't attaching properly & isn't getting enough milk (& making you sore in the process).

Good luck & big hugs. Don't feel bad - you're doing a great job :hugs:

MummaFug

11-01-2009, 11:10

:wave: Everyone - just a quick one ..

I DO come in and read all your posts and will do my own post very soon - things have been less than great here .. But we are getting sorted and will share with you soon..All is good :yes:

BUt wanted to reply to MuminWaiting ...

I have VERY strong feelings on this and COMPLETELY know where you are coming from on the breastfeeding thing.

With my DS I HATED HATED HATED breastfeeding for about the first month. I had not much support from anyone and pretty much kicked the sofa and cried EVERY time I fed. BUT i stuck with it and in the end fed for 16 months. It's the one thing NOONE tells you - Breastfeeding is NOT easy.

BUT I HATE how people make others feel when breastfeeding simply DOES NOT happen - What is important is that your child has a happy, relaxed and calm Mum rather than the added stress of "feeling bad" because you are doing the one thing you are supposed to do - Give your baby what it wants and needs....that is Food !! If it comes from a bottle, so be it !! If it calms you both - what can be wrong with that ...
If you still want to breastfeed - try and find a lactation consultant to help - really with DD it has been a dream and I cant believe I went through U at I did with DS. Continue to "top up" feeds with bottle if you need to.
BUT DO NOT let anyone make you feel bad !!!
It is your child and you will do what you think is best for them!! No-one else should have a say :no:

Hope things get better for you whatever you choose to do

*Sparkles*

11-01-2009, 14:29

MIW - I was the same as you when BF'ing my DS1, it just didn't work out for either of us. He went on the bottle at 4 weeks old.
With this bub, I have bottle fed him from the start, he has never even been on the boob and he is doing fine. I use karicare brand but I have switched to the karicare AR which is a more thickened formula as my bubs are quite spewy/refluxy.
Don't feel bad with whatever you choose to do. A happy mum and happy baby is all that matters at this stage.

Codelia - I have the changes in bleed from day to day too and I am not BF'ing so it must just be part of the healing process. I agree with what Epip said too about the uterus contracting when feeding too.

muminwaiting

11-01-2009, 15:05

Thanks everyone for the support.....I really needed to hear it. I know in my heart I am not a bad mum, but my head is doing me in, the midwives have me convinced that Holly will go straight to hell.:o

I am just having a sucky week, Holly was in hospital for 3 days this week with gastro and I stayed with her and we didn't get much sleep, I am a worrier by nature and when the Doctors started talking about maybe having to open her up to check her bowels and stomach it just totally freaked me out, in the end they called it a gastro virus but nothing was confirmed (we are still waiting for the poo culture to come back).

epiphany The only breastfeeding support I got was a brochure on how to breastfeed along with a 1800 number to call, that was it.I have been told that my timing for having Holly a couple of days before Christmas was a bit of bad luck because alot of places closed for the holidays.

fugly I hope everything is ok with you...Im sending you a :hugs:.

Thank you for your kind words, I really needed someone to agree with me and to tell me what I am doing is not a bad thing.

I am going to continue to try and breastfeed, I missed my home visit from the Family health nurse because Holly was in hospital, but they are coming again nextweek and Tue is an open drop in day at the clinic so I think I will take myself & Holly off to there on Tuesday and talk to someone.....I feel like I have this big black cloud hanging over me and I am scared I am going to fall into a post natal depression hole that I wont be able to get out of....I have Tim to help me and he has been great but I take everything to heart and everytime she cries and when she got sick I took it personal, like it was because I did something wrong.

Anyway enough of my depressing talk, I hope everyone is having a good day...

MummaFug

11-01-2009, 16:58

Hello Everyone...

Everyone is having a nap (including DH) so thought this was as good a time as any to fill you in with what has been happening with us...

It has been a VERY VERY emotional rollercoaster week for us but :fingerscrossed: that it is all on the way up from here...

On Monday got a call from the hospital saying there was an abnormality with DD's heel prick test results and we needed to re-do the test. Doc said they had made an appointment at the hospital for THurs...Remember I live in China - so the lady that rang only had enough English to tell me that - nothing else....SO I freaked and FINALLY got hold of a doc who could tell me what was going on...DD's blood for Congenital Hypothyroidism was abnormal...
After looking on the Computer - If you get this treated in the first 3 weeks - all SHOULD be OK ..If NOT treated in 3 weeks it can lead to mental and growth retardation.
So we DEMANDED a re-test the next day .. results came back abnormal again.
Doctors here said - wait 3 months and get retested :no: SO SO SO GLAD we DID NOT listen.

Luckily we got in touch with a Pediatric Endocronologistat Westmead hospital in Sydney and he told us to Start Medication IMMEDIATELY !!!
SO after 1 more test on Wed, THurs saw our pediatrician here who is now liasing with the doc in Westmead - Friday we started medication :yes: SO poor DD will now perhaps have to have medication everyday for the rest of her life :no: ( it will depend on future testing)

Apparently COngenital Hypothyroidism effects 1:4000 babies - but I cant find ANYONE who has it or anyone who knows someone with it..
It is so hard as we now need to do some tests to find out WHY she has it (I ma being tested too)....

On one hand we are LUCKY that 1 tablet a day is all that will be needed for normal growth etc. I know it could be LOTS worse but the unknown is always scary...

DD will have to be monitored closely for the first 3 yrs of her life to ensure dosage is correct.......but if that is all we have to do then thats OK...

We may have to head back to Oz or Singapore (where DS was born) and get some more tests to help us find out why she has it so things are still up in the air at the moment but I am feeling positive that DD will be FABULOUS in the long run and all will be OK....:flowerz:

SO there you have it .... I have been a little scared to tell everyone (esp those who havent had their babies yet) - I know you will all be very supportive etc But didnt want to scare anyone or get anyone worried about their own little ones...EVERYONE is screened for this so that it is found and treated early.

Oh and apart from that - MY DS turned 2 yesterday and my parents forgot !!! Can you believe it - I am SUPER P***ed off :no: THat is just SO not cool - considering they are not coming over here until the 19th as its my nephews Bday and they didnt want to miss it.... I am FURIOUS and so hurt... Not sure how I am going to talk to them about it but think I need to say something (they did ring in the end after my sister called to remind them)

HOPE EVERYONE IS HAVING A GREAT DAY (I wanted to put a little flower here but I've used my quota)
and thanks for reading my long winded post (if you read it all)... I feel a little better now getting it out

epiphany

11-01-2009, 19:28

epiphany The only breastfeeding support I got was a brochure on how to breastfeed along with a 1800 number to call, that was it.I have been told that my timing for having Holly a couple of days before Christmas was a bit of bad luck because alot of places closed for the holidays.

That makes me so cross that you didn't get proper support to establish breastfeeding properly before you left...Christmas or not, they shouldn't have let you leave without checking you had all the support you needed. I would strongly suggest you get in touch with a consultant in your area - they can go through everything with you, check your technique & help as required. Breastfeeding isn't an automatic thing, it's learned & if you can get as much help as possible in the early days, it'll make your experience & that of Holly's much better. Big hugs, hun :hugs:

Also hope the gastro thing goes away quickly & the culture comes back clear.

Fugly...so sorry to hear about the abnormal result but good thing you were on to it! And so good you've been able to get in touch with Drs who sound like they actually know what they're talking about. Big hugs & hope that everything develops normally, etc.

As for us...I'm *really* hoping I get more than 2 hours sleep tonight. I'm so tired! J will sleep just fine when she's lying on someone (not very practical) but grunts & snorts & is very restless if we lie her in her bed...normally she settles down after a while but not last night. Sigh. Sometimes it's a good thing they don't stay this little for long! On the other hand, she gave me her first smile last night at 3.35am. That was pretty sweet :D

Ashi

12-01-2009, 15:54

Hi girls
I can join in with you now!!
Day 5 here we got home yesterday its soooo great to be home
Isabelle is a little angel well mostly! lol im doing pretty good bellys still a bit tender and dont worry Cordelia your not the only one who puts maternity pads on your scar haha! i do that 2 to keep it dry i have a bit of that flabby baby fat 2 :(

breastfeeding is going pretty well got a few hard lumpy bits in my boobs now my milks in so im masssaging them and hoping it all settles down soon
my poor nipples hurt sooo much ive been coating them in nursing butter after every feed their so dry n a bit grazed, just gotta remember to push thru this part cuz its easy going afterwards..
right? tell me thats true!!!!!! lol

Fugly sorry to hear about ashleigh's results.. hope that treatment goes well for you hun thank god your vigilant and didnt just accept what the first doctors told you! good job you should be proud of your self for that

Hels your little dude is so cute and wow so strong!

MIW sorry to hear your having trouble feeding, dont let anyone make you feel bad hun what ever is right for you and your baby is fine! not everyone can breast feed trust me i failed 3 times! its normal and its ok your a wonderful mum dont let anyone tell you otherwise :hugs:

thats all i can remember.. i tried to read everyones posts lol lack of sleep -shakes sleepiness from brain- lol

hope everyones well hugs to all the bubbas :)!

Ash + Izzy xoxo

muminwaiting

12-01-2009, 17:48

Hello Ladies,

Fugly :hugs::hugs: Thank god you did some research of your own and contacted a Doc in Sydney..I guess at times like this we can be thankfull that they have this kind of screening tests, at least now you know and can get on with the treatment that she needs..I wish you had of shared your worries with us sooner, I understand why you didn't and I know we all couldn't have really done much to help you...but we are all here for you now.....

epiphany I know what you mean...not that I would give Holly up for all the money in the world....but I do miss those days when I could get 8hrs sleep if I wanted it....now I pray for 2hrs straight.:laughing:....

As for me, last night was a nightmare Holly woke just for before 1am had a feed then proceeded to cry for the next 4 1/2hrs it was only after her second bath that she finally calmed down....she has really bad wind, strange things is she doesn't get it during the day, just that early morning feed and I can not figure out why.... I have tried gripe juice, baths, massage and the standard walking around patting her back or over my knee....anyone got any other ideas?...

Today she is doing alot better,I think whatever bug she had may have finally left the building (touch wood), all of her tests came back negative, Doc says it just means she didn't have anything really nasty, just your standard gastro bug.

The Hosp gave me a referal to see a pediatrician and I managed to get an appointment for tomorrow...I will be happy once they give her the once over again.

epiphany

12-01-2009, 20:46

As for me, last night was a nightmare Holly woke just for before 1am had a feed then proceeded to cry for the next 4 1/2hrs it was only after her second bath that she finally calmed down....she has really bad wind, strange things is she doesn't get it during the day, just that early morning feed and I can not figure out why.... I have tried gripe juice, baths, massage and the standard walking around patting her back or over my knee....anyone got any other ideas?...

Hmmmm...if that last feed is a breastfeed, is there something you're eating (maybe for dinner) that could be upsetting her? If it's a formula feed, maybe there's something she's reacting to in the formula (eg lactose) - although I would have thought she'd get it at other times too if that was the case. Maybe she's a bit colicky & that's her bad time (haven't had any experience with colic myself but I've heard they are often worse in the evenings).

Logan&KodasMumma

12-01-2009, 21:43

Hi Ladies,

Well my little man is a week old already....:crying: time just goes too fast but I take him with me everywhere, and I love to just sit and watch him.
He eats heaps, but my boobs aren't sore. Just my nipples when he latches on, but I remember it being alot more painful the first time....

His cord finally dropped off today, it was starting to get smelly and ergh, so I am grateful its gone.

I think I have struck lightening twice, Koda sleeps eight hours a night, and wakes up halfway for a half an hour feed and a nappy change, which I can manage half asleep. I'm finding using cloth nappies alot easier than last time too. Yay.

DH is great with Koda, I don't think I have ever seen him so gentle and affectionate... it's really very sweet. I fell asleep on the couch tonight and DH woke me up to go to bed and him and Koda were lying in bed having a chat.... I can tell Koda loves his daddy already, he was laying beside him and smiling.

Fugs- Sorry to hear about the test results, thankgod u got onto an aussie doctor. Big hugs sent your way.

Ephiphany- I know what you mean about the grunting, koda sleeps on my chest everynight, and in the morning I wake up and can't move properly because I haven't moved all night. Mind you I can't really sleep unless I can feel him... hehe

Muminwaiting- I have never experienced anything like that, so I can't offer much advice... I've always found tummy time great for wind though. Hugs for you.

I should probably look at skipping off to bed at some point now that I have eaten a whole box of tiny teddies....oops.....LOL

Oh and Koda has put on 30 grams in his first week :) I'm so proud of him.

I think when I had logan I must've had severe post natal depression. I don't this time but last time I didn't feel like I connected with him properly, maybe it was bcuz my evil MIL made my life a living hell.... but I feel so close to Koda. I still love Logan very much but I feel more bonded to Koda as a mother. I never would have let logan sleep in my bed or anything like that.. I feel lieka horrible mother saying that.... my MW said it's normal but I still feel like a mean wench.

Oh and my pop is doing very well, they put the piece of skull back in and he's remembering more :) He even remembered Kodas name, and when I told him his full name my pop cried becuase we used my pops name as one of Kodas middle names.

On the other hand, my mum's mum (gran) was rushed in for suregry last week, ended up having a double bypass and a stint put into her aorta. But I've been told I am not allowed to visit her becuase I am not "immediate family" nice eh?? I'm thinking about just sneaking up there next time I visit my pop. Nothing liek annoying the family hahahaah.

Oh well I better toddle off to bed, I have to do some serious snuggling with my Koda Bear.

Cordelia

12-01-2009, 22:13

Good to see some new mums in here!!

MIW - good luck with Holly and I hope you're doing better with the breastfeeding. I have trouble with breastfeeding this time and last time and I tend to stick through it through the tough times but sometimes i wish I had the guts to change to formula!! I know my family would look down on me for that... altho things are looking up this time so hopefully we have a smooth run!!

Also MIW!! I hope that you have a more settled night tonight. Most babies seem to have an unsettled period - maybe yours hasn't figured out it's supposed to be around late afternoon/early evening!!!! Good luck. DD was exactly the same - she would go from around 8pm til around 3am though.... for months!! It was shocking. We never found a solution and nearly went mad so good on you for getting it checked out. We found the Brauers solutions worked well - i can't remember what it was called - stomach calm?? (its all natural as well)

fugly - goodness i cant' ebelieve what you've been through. it must be really worrying but good on you for pushing it and doing the right thing. At least you know your edoing the best for your little girl now. :hugs:

mumof5 - glad koda is doing so well -that's great! Also great about your pop and i hope your gran recovers from her surgery well.

Us - hmm no news other than we seem to have scored the easiest baby in the world (sorry!!!!) he is amazing. I'm not game to let him sleep through yet as he did lose more than his 10% so I'm waking him every 4 hours but its' not bad as I feed him at 9:30 before I go to sleep and then wake him up at 1:00 And then have an early morning feed in bed and then we all doze off til DD wakes up. Bliss!! It makes me want to have another one but I'm not sure I could do that!!!

The only problem is DD who is acting up something terrible - everything is NOOOO and she throws herself on the floor. I feel terirbly for her because it's such a change. All I can do is spend as much one on one time as I can but I worry that it's easy to do that now with DH off work.. what do I do when he goes back!!!! Also, how do I manage the housework with 2 kids?!?!?! I guess we'll work it out like I did when I couldn'twork out what I'd do with the 1 kid hehe...

Happy sleeps tonight mums and bubs :)

Logan&KodasMumma

13-01-2009, 06:21

Hi Cords,

As a mum of uhhh 5 now, I do all my housework, well alot of it, after my little dears go to sleep. Stuff like vacumming I make into a game, if there's anything in my way I call the kids to help, and make them all excited by telling them "quick quick see how fast you can move it for me," then we all have a giggle, I hang out washing first thing in the morning (after my morning feed with Koda, I pop him in his rocker and pop him out on the veranda so he can get some fresh air, he loves it. I too seem to have scored a very calm bubby. And now I want ten more (dh went pale when I said this).

Your little girl is probably feeling a little left out, this isn't your fault, I have found with my 3 yr old dd the easiest way to get her to behave these days is ... bribes. But also if I ask her to do something and she screams and chucks a hissy, I pop her on her bed for a couple of minutes then have a talk to her about how her behaviour is affecting me, and the family. Believe it or not it actually works, but I always end the conversation with a massive cuddle a kiss and I love you.

It is very hard to get used to it but eventually it all sort of works... either that or I have gone completely loopy....:rolleyes:

Hugs :)

Jelly Baby

14-01-2009, 10:27

Hi Mummies,

Hope everyone is having a great day...it's pretty hot here in Sydney so I'm back indoors for the day. :sunshine:

I've just put DS down for his nap, grabbed a sandwich but now DD is wanting a feed so I'll be quick.

I've got 2 questions - bubba (4 weeks old) has some pretty nasty RED nappy rash on her poor bottom...she screams every time I change her, any suggestions?

And the next one - dummies! Has everyone introduced the dummy yet or are there some that aren't going to at all. I'm debating whether to give her one or not....???

Logan&KodasMumma

14-01-2009, 11:17

okkkk...

I can answer two questions in one :>

I have used a dummy with Koda when changing him as this calms down. As for the nappy rash, sudocream is excellent, pure corn starch baby powder. provides nice protection :)

epiphany

14-01-2009, 11:22

Jelly Baby...is the nappy rash just red or does it have raised lumps in it? If it's raised or it's shiny, it may be thrush rather than just nappy rash (so you'd need to treat with an anti-fungal cream) but for straight nappy rash, I find Savlon works the best (or you could try Lucas' pawpaw ointment or just straight zinc & caster oil cream but I find Savlon works really well to help clear it up) - just slap it on all over the rash & don't rub too much (doesn't matter if there's lots left on the surface). Also make sure you're changing the nappy often & maybe give a little nappy-free time to help the skin dry out. I try to dry J's bottom after a nappy change & find reusable wipes preferable to disposable as then she doesn't have any trouble with alcohol (in disposable wipes) irritating her skin. If the rash doesn't go away in a couple of days, see the Dr.

If you're using MCNs, don't use a barrier cream directly against the fabric - it reduces the absorbancy of the nappy. Put a liner on the nappy 1st (then can use cream).

As for dummies...do you think he needs one? I never used one for #1 but #2 was a very sucky baby (wanted to suckle *all* the time). I never gave him a dummy when he was awake...only if he was going off to sleep & seemed to be having trouble settling (due to wanting to suckle) - then I'd give it to him but would wait a wee bit if it fell out before giving it back to him. As soon as he had enough control over his hands, he refused the dummy & sucked his fingers instead. J also has the dummy sometimes (also quite sucky) but has a lot of hand control already & seems to prefer sucking on her fist - she refuses the dummy a lot of the time, so I don't push it.

Jelly Baby

14-01-2009, 15:08

Jelly Baby

14-01-2009, 15:15

1stTimeMum09

14-01-2009, 15:36

:wave: girls..

How are we all??

Nappy rash-Ryley had one and Sudocream took it away. I am going to swear by it..

Sucking-Ryley sucks on his fingers, arms anything really. Lol.

Ryley and I are going well..We solve a little feeding problem the other day. I was BF until Monday when my milk come in and man did my BB's hurt so I was lucky the midwife came when she did I was in tears so I am now expressing and formula and Ryley took really well with the bottle and has 80mls and takes the dummy sometimes. Bad night last night because it was so hot and he was constipated so we gave him some water and finally at 5am he did a massive poo.

And now all he has been doing all day is sleeping. Don't know if that is good or bad. What do you guys think? Also Ryley scratches his face especially if I don't pick him up and he screams bloody murder when I change him to. Lol. I don't want to put mittens on him cos he sucks on them what do you guys think I should do? Sorry about all the questions just a little clueless. Lol.

Sorry no personals but hello to all..And congrats to all you new mummies..

Kirsten

muminwaiting

14-01-2009, 17:40

Hello Ladies,

Jellybaby - I agree sudocream worked a charm on Holly, she had bad nappy rash from the gastro and it cleared it straight up. My mum also swears by good old fashioned cornflower...

re dummies, I have also given Holly one, she doesn't want it all the time, but I use it to get her off my breast, especially if she has been feeding for ages and I can not take anymore. she will tend to use me as a dummy....

epiphany & Cordelia- I am still breastfeeding, I have the formula here as my back up..but I am really trying to keep at it..

As for us, I took Holly to her pead's appointment yesterday and I had noticed the night before a white film on her tongue and they say she has thrush....which now explains all of her feeding troubles....they gave me some stuff to give her and I also have to be treated with a cream for my nipples, I am still breatfeeding, I am trying to express her feeds as much as I can beacuse she is finding it difficult to suck....and my nipples are so sore....so tonight she may get a formula bottle. I ended up going with s26 gold just because I know it has been around forever.....

sorry guys she is awake..I will try and get back on later...

Cordelia

14-01-2009, 19:23

Oh my gosh I'm so tired - we had the worst night ever!! which wasn't really bad.... but his feeding went really bad and my nipples are so cracked and dry.. OUCH OUCH OUCH... he seems to be a bit better today. Luckily DD has had a good day today otherwise I think I would crack it.

Thanks for the hints mumof5 :) DD does love helping out with the housework. We're being spoilt at the moment with DH home for another 2 weeks - it's awesome.

jellybaby - we use sudocreme here too - it's magic. put it on thick after every nappy change and it goes away really quickly. it must be SO painful for them .. makes me cringe.

dummies - we never used one with DD (until she was 3 months) but the paediatrician convinced us to use one with Daniel. If it stops them crying and keeps us sane - then why not!!! They kind of get rid of the urge to suck at 6-8 months so if you can get rid of it before it becomes an addiction then thats handy!

1sttimemum - daniel scratches his face too. you can cut the nails but you have to be so careful you dont get his fingers!! Otherwise I know some mums bite the nails off.....

muminwaiting - hope the thrush clears up quickly. Have you tried expressing rather than give her formula? I have a freezer full of breast milk already. DH gave him a bottle last night as I just couldn't take it anymore. I didn't really want to give him a bottle this early (nipple confusion) but as we're using a nipple shield anyway i figured it cant be too different!

ok sorry for the long the post again.... hehe....

*Sparkles*

14-01-2009, 20:57

Fugly - Sorry to hear about your baby girl :hugs: Great to hear that the condition can be treated daily though.

Dummies - We have used one since hospital but Alex only likes the avent newborn one. I only use it when he is waiting for his bottle or when I'm changing his nappy as he screams blue murder. I will also give it to him if he is having problems settling, but I don't automatically give it to him when I put him down each time.

Nappy Rash - We like sudacream too as it coats their bum and gives protection aswell as healing. Don't use wipes when they are sore as it stings. A wet face washer or wet cotton wool is a better option.

Thrush - Alex has a white tongue too and DS1 had thrush at the same age. The MCHN had a look but said she didn't think it was thrush but I disagree so I am giving him some daktarin for a few days. Apparently it gets into their gut too and makes them uncomfy. The last few days Alex has been screwing up his face and squirming which makes me think it is thrush even more. We are also giving some Infacol in his milk which has helped too.
I am seeing a different MCHN tomorrow for our next appt so I will get a 2nd opinion.

Last night he slept for 6 hours straight! it was heaven :D

muminwaiting

15-01-2009, 04:23

I have finally found the time to get on here and as my luck would have it is 5am and no one else is here :no::( bugger are you all getting sleep!!!!!.:D I have been up since 3am feeding, Holly has just gone back down after an hour of rocking to get rid of the wind, although I agree Hels* I think it is the thrush upsetting her belly..

We have survived another night of no formula...I really didn't want to give it to her at night in case it upset her belly, so i ill try it for her first feed this morning...my nipples can not take much more...

Cordalia -I would love a freezer full of milk, what pump are you using?..I brought the avent electric one and even though I know my boobs are full of milk it takes forever to pump enough for a feed. When we were in hospital they gave me one called a symphony (yellow pump) it was unreal, I wanted to put it in my bag and take it home it worked so well...OMG I just googled it and it costs $1400............Just found it for hire from the breastfeeding Assoc for $25 wk for members or $50 for no member....maybe I will try ebay...

oh well I am back off to bed........

Ohhhh Target has a big sale on starting today on baby stuff.....it goes for two weeks, Dh and I are getting out of the house today and heading for the shops, it's going to be 35 or 37 here today might as well be at the shopping centre in the aircon.

Ashi

15-01-2009, 08:52

Hey girls hope everyones well
the cyclones hit yesterday! lol my boys are up for 2 weeks... oh man lol
they where very excited to meet their new little sister tho it was adorable
they are 8 1/2 and 5 1/2
its going to be 36 today.. and at 8 45 am this morning it was already 29..........
ugh its going to be horrible :( poor bubby.. its so hard to keep her cool
have to sit in the fan with her in the hottest parts of the day..
it never bothered me b4 as our house has fairly good roof and wall insulation...
but this year im really wishing we had air con in at least 1 room :(

feedings going great for us cant complain actually i cant complain about anything with Isabelle shes an angel she sleeps well feeds well settles well just perfect..

Ive gotta say tho im dying to get out of this house.. i havent left it since i got home from hosptial
i want to drive my car ........ :( lol
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH going crazy lol
i hate going oh i need X from the store.. oh i cant go get it gotta wait for someone to help
FFS! i feel useless and needy :( lol
i going to try driving soon cuz i feel fine
i jumped in it and took it out of the garage and put it back in.. didnt hurt or feel uncomfortable at all..
justin dosent want me to try yet but meh lol

as for nappy rash we havent had any yet (shes only a week old tho lol) but i use a cream called happy bottoms baby balm by Biobaby Organics and its wonderful, i buy it from the local healthy living store (health food store)
i dont use any products on bub that arent organic and chemical free

Oh and as for the nails i bite Izzy's off as its way to scary cutting them lol she dosent try to scratch much tho, but my other bubs did and it always looked so sore :(

Ah well i better go get the washing on the line b4 it gets 2 hot to go outside lol
have a good day :)

Logan&KodasMumma

15-01-2009, 12:50

Hello

Cords- You're welcome :)

Nails- I use a nail file on Kodas. It's best when he is sleeping after a feed cuz he won't move.

Feeding- I feel like a milk cow

Breast Pumps- The medela electric works really well, however I have the manual avent and I can get 120-140 mls out of mine.

Muah

honeydew

15-01-2009, 13:33

Hi :wave:

I can finally join in this chat!!

Layla and I came home from hospital yesterday. She dropped in weight from 7lb2 to 5lb15 but yesterday she was back up to 6 pounds so we were allowed home. It is so good to be home and have our baby girl here and be a real family again. Mason loves her so much and is really good with her.

She is so tiny, we were told she would be at least 9 pounds born- boy were they wrong!!! I am finding that the disposable nappies are falling down on her, the terry toweling cloth nappies practically swallow her right up and the mcn's are far too big as some of them don't start till 4kg or more.

Feeding is not going well at all. I got my milk in on day 3 and just about cried with happiness because I never got milk last time and was worried the same thing would happen this time. By the night of day 4 it had completely gone again! I was a complete mess and was sobbing all night (I think hormones had a lot to do with that!). Layla sucked for 3 hours straight and was still screaming with hunger so the midwives had to cup feed her some formula. My ob saw me the next morning and gave me some motilium (sp?) to bring it back and I spent the next couple of days feeding and expressing constantly to build it up again. I have plenty again now, but I'm not sure if I have quite enough.

Yesterday when we got home I was feeling much better about it all because we were going about 12 hours between formula top ups (now using the tommee tippee closer to nature bottles) but then one nipple started bleeding. I am using a nipple shield because she wasn't attaching without it and when she pulled off there was blood in it and dribbling down her chin :( Same thing happened this morning and went all over her clothes. I was in so much agony and was crying non stop so we gave her a bottle of formula just to keep her satisfied until I could handle her on me again. I've been so depressed and this morning decided to just formula feed her..... but after having a shower and calming down a bit I decided to keep trying. We dropped Mason off at daycare and on the way home we dropped into the child health centre. We have an appointment at 3pm to get Layla weighed and checked (I am paranoid about her weight now) and the nurse let me sit and show her how I am feeding. She managed to get her attached without the shield and I will get her to help me again this afternoon when we go back.

Anyway, sorry this has turned into all about me :o I am feeling so desperate about the feeding situation. I don't want to give up as I know I will regret it like I did with Mason but at the same time I am in so much pain that I can't bear the thought of one more feed. Hopefully things will get better as I was so determined to breast feed before I had her.

I hope you are all going well and your little bubs are sleeping well. I will try to read back through the thread later on if I get a chance.

:hugs:

muminwaiting

15-01-2009, 14:58

M2M - Yeah you have you bubba home!!!!!....I know how you feel re breastfeeding, it has not come naturally to me either, its bl**dy hard work....I was looking at it as this great bonding experience between us, but I dread feeding time, I'm like you I'm determined to keep at it, then if I switch to formula full time, I know in my heart I gave it my best shot. I would be happy if I could just express enough for every feed but it takes forever for me to get a feed.

Ashi - I begged Dh to take us to the Target sale today, I have been going stir crazy as well. We went got some great bargins, but poor Dh was frazzled within 1/2hr and was ready to go home, in hind sight we should have gone tonight when it was much cooler because it is a stinker here today.

Formula - I gave Holly her first feed of S26 this morning, she drank it but didn't really seem to enjoy it much, she went down to sleep but woke about an hr later screaming and she then spent the next half an hour throwing up her formula....and it stinks. I guess s26 doesn't agree with her....I got Karicare HA AR today when we went to Target, Hels* was that the one you are using and recommended for reflux?. I know you are not meant to keep switching formulas but if she woke up and was vommiting it up it can not agree with her..am I right?...

God it's hot...and I am craving a cup of tea but it is too darn hot to drink one.

Nails - I cut Holly's with nail clippers when she was asleep.

*Sparkles*

15-01-2009, 22:36

Formula - I gave Holly her first feed of S26 this morning, she drank it but didn't really seem to enjoy it much, she went down to sleep but woke about an hr later screaming and she then spent the next half an hour throwing up her formula....and it stinks. I guess s26 doesn't agree with her....I got Karicare HA AR today when we went to Target, Hels* was that the one you are using and recommended for reflux?. I know you are not meant to keep switching formulas but if she woke up and was vommiting it up it can not agree with her..am I right?...

We use the Karicare AR in the green tin with a white lid. The reason I don't like the HA AR is because it gives bubs green poos. The HA part is for allergies I think. But it should work just as well though, see how you go. It is a thickened formula for reflux and we find it works wonders. I used it the whole time for DS1 so I am quite attached to it and won't change brands :)

Haylie - Great to see you are at home now. Hang in there with the BF'ing and I hope it gets easier soon :hugs: Can you do more expressing to give your (*)(*) a break?

Us - We had our second MCHN appt today and Alex now weighs just over 4 kgs, he is gaining approx 38g per day :yelclap:
It's no wonder as he drinks 150mls each feed and tonight he had 200mls!! He has been sleeping for 5-6 hours straight at night too. He is also settling a lot better in his cot now at night but still has day sleeps in the pram. He likes laying in the pram infront of the TV and then he drops off to sleep lol.

Shell31

16-01-2009, 08:15

Hi everyone... YAY I'm finally here :yelclap:

Update on me...

Daisy is 1week & 1 day old today & she is really & i mean REALLY a dream baby. I do know however that it is early days & I also know that an angel baby can turn into the a horror almost overnight lol.. She is breastfeeding really well. I'm waking her if she goes to 4.5hrs during the day & at night she is going 4 hrs on her own. last night she fed at 10pm then woke at 2am then again at 4.30am which I wasnt very keen about lol. I probably could have rewrapped her & popped the plug (Dummy) in but in all honesty it is so bluddy hard for me to get out of bed I just though I'd feed her. She is still asleep so its been 4.5hrs. Other then that she is fine. No problems with milk, nipples, attaching or anything like that but like I said still early days.

Me... I hurt something the first night home from hospital getting out of bed & my wound was bleeding :no: It is still so so painful. I don't remember being this sore with the other 2. Maybe its because its my 3rd ceaser? Maybe I've just pulled something? Maybe its just early days given its only been a week. In any case I'm still popping a couple of endones a day. There is one spot in particular that stings so bad when I get out of bed or get up from a chair. I've been in tears a few times.. Its also pure agony to cough.. :no:I was SEVERELY constipated when I got out of hospital. Sorry for TMI... I hadn't gone for 5 days :eek: and was in agony. The hospital gave me so many different things to get me going it wasnt funny. Thats all been sorted out now & I'm taking Normicol daily whilst I'm still having the painkillers. Its a natural thing so I don't mind taking it while I need it. One less thing to be concerned about.

I dont know if a midwife is coming to my house. One came with Theo for a home visit but I can't remember if that was organised for me at the hospital or if they rang me at home that first week. Brains mush lol.. Might ring the hospital today & ask them what happens with that. I can't go anywhere even as a passenger in the car. Too sore.

BUT - My little Daisy is so beautiful & i'm so in love with her.. Oh there she is now squeaking away lol.. Sorry this post is abit of a negative one just wanted to update you all on where we are at. I will get back to do personals later & post some pics of my new little angel.

Love & kisses to you & your precious babies
Rachelle x

1stTimeMum09

16-01-2009, 11:13

Hello girls..

Ashi-hope you and the family are okay.

M2M-welcome home!

Shell31-glad Daisy is being a charm for you..

muminwaiting-I find Heinz Nurture pretty good. Hopefully you find one she likes soon.

mumof4-wow that's like a lot of milk I was only get 50mls. Lol.

:wave: to everyone else

Dummies-I am using the Heinz Baby one and Ryley loves it..

Breast Pump-I was using the Nuk ELectric Pump

Well I decided to just stick with giving Ryley formula I found expressing tiring especially at night and he isn't crying as much and sleeping much better. I am using Heinz Nurture about 100 mls and he is pretty satisfied he spew a couple of times but not many and man you should hear him burp :laughing:

He did get a little constipated yesterday so in between feeds I give him some water and then he soon is able to do number 2. And I love seeing him giving me windy smiles can't wait for the real ones :cloud9: Also noticed he hasn't been scratching his face as much..

Got off the phone to Centre Link and have a appointment with them next Thursday about my payments. Have midwife coming today and then it will be the MCHN next week.

ETA-Ryley put on 300 grams :D Midwife just been and she happy he is on formula..

Well I hope you have a good day..
Kirsten

honeydew

16-01-2009, 16:53

Hi everyone!

I had a quick read through the thread so have caught up a little with where everyone is up to. I'm really glad to hear that I'm not the only one having feeding issues (well not glad for you guys, but its consoling to know its not just me).

Fugly- I was so sad reading your post about Ashleigh but I'm so glad that you seeked a 2nd opinion and you are on the right track with her treatment. Please keep us updated, I am thinking of you :hugs:

MIW- Some of your posts I could have written myself- with the constant sucking, screaming, you crying in pain etc. I hope things are getting better for you xo

Shell- I'm wondering if you should get your wound looked at? Mine is a bit painful, esp when getting out of a chair but it doesn't seem nearly half as bad as what yours sounds :hugs: Glad to hear that little Daisy is doing beautifully!

Expressing- I am using an avent breast pump and am only getting 10-20mls for half and hours work. I think I am just not good at using the pump or something because I think I have plenty of milk now.

Formula- for our tops ups we are using Karicare gold plus. We used that with Mason and I find it doesnt smell. The S26 smells gross to me and makes me feel sick after she spews (we were using this in hospital).

Dummy- We are trying our hardest to not give Layla one. We used one with Mason but dont want to this time. If we do end up using one I want it to be after we have breastfeeding established.

Us- We went back to the chn yesterday afternoon and she was concerned that Layla hadn't had a decent feed since 6:30 that morning when she had a bottle and was really sleepy and wouldn't even try to attach because she kept falling back to sleep. We are seeing her again on monday morning and in the meantime keeping a little diary of all the feeds and wet nappies etc. The plan over the next few days is to feed every 3 hours, even wake her through the night 3 hourly. Offer the breast and if she fusses for more than 5-10 minutes and wont attach then she is just exhausting herself so give her ebm in a bottle and then top up with formula. As DH feeds her the formula I sit and express ready to offer after the next feed attempt. So far its going well, although we slept through one alarm last night and she went 5 hours between feeds. Some feeds go so well and she attaches beautifully (although am back to using the shield as its the only way she'll try) and sucks well for a good 15 mins or more. But other feeds she will fuss around and get herself so worked up so I end up having to express and DH gives her a bottle of formula. I am feeling better about it today and she is looking much better. More alert and a lot less yellow. She's also doing lots of wees and has done lots of poos since last night too. I think I have consoled myself with the fact that if it doesn't work out she will just go on formula and I will accept it, so that's put less pressure on myself about it which is almost making it easier to keep trying if that makes sense. The chn suggested booking in to a clinic in brisbane to stay and get full time support with the BFing for a few days but I don't think we really want to do that so we will stick with what we are doing and see what happens. If I can get her attaching well then I think we will eventually get her to be full time breastfed and I wont need to express any more. I now have so much milk that last night I was dreaming about the whole situation and woke with my shirt sopping wet- I had leaked through my breast pad & bra. And today while trying to feed her from one side, the other side leaked through to my shirt again. So that is one less thing to worry about, at least I know I have plenty to offer her.

I'm feeling really sore today on my wound. I have been trying not to take too much pain relief but I need it today. I think I have overdone it the past couple of days but its so hard with 2 to look after as well as trying to keep on top of washing and cooking food etc.

This morning was so crazy. I had a nap in the morning with Layla while DH looked after Mason. They went out and Mason broke the new pull down shade blind thing on his side of the car, then covered himself with stickers from his sticker book. Of course each time DH had to come and tell me about it instead of letting me sleep. Then once I got up with Layla, DH went back to bed and it was out of control looking after 2 at once :laughing: While feeding Layla, I could hear Mason playing around with the dog food but tried to ignore it because the feed was going so well and I didn't want to interupt it by getting up. When I got up there were dog biscuits spread ALL over the back patio. Then while I was changing Layla Mason got into her cupboard and was pulling down my wedding dress and old formal dresses that are hanging in there. He managed to get a wrap from one of them and wrap himself up in it. Then as I attempted to unpack my hospital bag (which is still sitting on the dining table) I heard a smash and came out to find that Mason was standing on a chair flicking the light switch on and off and somehow the bulb had fallen out and smashed on the tiles RIGHT next to where Layla was sleeping in her bouncer :eek: She was directly underneath it, I even have to wonder whether the light bulb bounced off her before falling to the floor. I couldnt see any glass on her but I cleaned it all up and gave the bouncer a good vacuum. What a crazy morning! They are all asleep at the moment so I am enjoying the quiet time.

Sorry for the huge ramble!!! I hope all bubs are doing well :baby:

Logan&KodasMumma

16-01-2009, 19:59

Hello Ladies,

Oh dear, I'm really tired.....
Today I have vacuumed n shampooed the carpets, cleaned out our junk/baby room, cleaned the bathroom and toilet, 4 loads of washing, 2 dishwasher loads..... I'm pooped.....

To top it all off, I've had to change my shirt 4 times today... I'm leaking big time, think wet t-shirt comp :laughing:

I've started getting bruises on my thighs.... I have no idea why lol

The girls have been testing me today... throwing their food in the bin, chucking wobblies for no reason at all.....:hair: I love em, but they spent most of the day on their bed.

My figure has gone back to being even better than before I fell pregnant. I'm 84 kilos now.. woo hoo:yelclap: I want to lose another ten, but DH has told me not too because I will be too skinny for him....pffttttt

Im going to toddle my skinny *** to bed now.. LOL

Hope everyone is well

epiphany

16-01-2009, 22:09

Hi ladies :wave: Just a quick post before I head off to bed.

I had my son's & J's hands & feet cast today. Very cool. I'm going to get some stuff to do my own casts for gifts for the grandparents later in the year & have been thinking of doing a series of hand & foot casts of J (1 every 2 months) & mount them on a wooden board. I already do a photo every month of my son (am getting it printed up into a montage soon) & a row of little hands & feet seems like a cool way of documenting how J grows in the first year.

Other than that, things are going well. J has slipped into a routine. Her awake time is during the day now & she's only waking twice a night for a feed most nights (sometimes we get woken up 3 times but that seems to be if she has had a quiet day).

J has put heaps of weight on...she's being weighed again next week but she's rapidly catching up to where my son was when he was little (& he was a massive hefalump...his rolls had rolls). I love chubby babies :p

My mum finally leaves on Sunday & that will be the last of all the relatives who have been staying here. Honestly, I am *never* doing that again. 6 people staying in our house at one point. Pure madness. And not at all helpful to me or baby - in fact, I've found it way more stressful trying to deal with the people who were supposed to be here to help than not having anyone here would have been. They don't help - just eat all our food & get in the way. Luckily I've recovered very quickly from the c-section (hoorah!) & been able to do housework, etc, pretty much from when I got home with minimal discomfort (only problem I'm still having is a patch that gets a bit sweaty & sore, so have had to tuck a breast pad over part of my wound to help it heal properly). Otherwise everyone would starve! It seems the only thing my MIL or mum seemed concerned about is doing laundry...MIL used up 5kgs of concentrated laundry detergent in just over 2 weeks!!! :eek: (I have no idea how). But, as much as I love them, they've been minimal help with cooking, the kids, etc - more a bit of a source of frustration a lot of the time rather than help, really, so it'll be good to get back into our own routine.

Re: nails...I just use blunt-ended nail scissors to cut J's nails. Much easier to use than clippers. I used to do my son's when he was asleep...& later on would sing a particular song only when cutting his nails, so he learnt to sit still when I sang that song (worked well...now I don't bother because he's big enough to know what's going on). J sits much stiller than he did, so I haven't had to resort to that yet.

Re: expressing...we have an Avent manual pump here & I can express enough when I have to but it's never as much as when I feed...I just don't seem to be quite as successful at expressing (& I suspect that's normal for a lot of people).

Shell...I'd get your wound looked at. Go back & see your ob. It shouldn't be bleeding. You might have popped a stitch or the scar somehow...or you may have an infection. I was told it's normal to have an area that hurts more - I had one on my right side & was told it sometimes hurts more on the side the ob was standing on when they did the operation (for some reason). That didn't go away for me for about 2-3 weeks after the c-section. But it shouldn't be bleeding. My 2nd c-section had a little hole in it where it wouldn't heal properly & I had all sorts of trouble with it until it finally healed nearly 3 months after the c-section. The ob was quite concerned about it...& it was just oozy, not full-on bleeding.

Hi to everyone else. I have read all the posts but I'm tired & can't concentrate long enough to post a reply right at the moment. Big hugs to everyone & their precious little bubbies :hugs: Right...J has finally got off to sleep (after a very hectic & unsettled day between her not getting enough rest during the day & my 2 year old turning feral for the same reason...then lots of visitors just as I was thinking of having a nap...argh!)...I'm off to catch some shut-eye before she wakes fr another feed. Nighty night!

earthfairy

17-01-2009, 14:45

Hi Girls!

I found your hiding spot!:detective:

As i was scrolling through this thread i gigled to myself that most of our avatars have changed & now have pics of our babies - too cute!

We are all doing ok, Poppy is feeding & sleeping well on the "Save Our Sleep" routine. She is a pretty happy baby & is getting so strong.
She is only 3 weeks old on Monday & can already keep her head up. So proud!

AFM - im recovering ok, my c-sect wound is healing nicely, it still gets a bit tender but its ok. Just wondering for those of you who have had a c-sec - did you ever have any vajay-jay problems after??:o

Sorry for TMI but mine has been so itchy & red & a bit swollen. I am still bleeding a little bit & wondering if its from having to wear pads all the time? It doesnt hurt to pee or anything, just itchy!

I thought it may have been thrush but i did a stint of canasten & it did nothing. Also wondering if maybe i have an infection from the cathater or something? Or even an allergic reaction to something like shower gel?
Its driving me insane! Im still feeling a wee bit fragile too go see a doctor, dont really feel like being poked & prodded IYKWIM?

Any help would be appreciated!!!!

Hope you are all doing well with your babies & getting some sleep!

:hugs:

Shell31

17-01-2009, 16:51

Hi Ladies,

YAY glad you found us earthfairy. I've had 3 ceasers now & never really had any problems like your describing with itchiness but I have had a little bit of well just irritation I guess & put it down to having to wear pads all the time. I know what you mean about being poked & prodded. I don't want to go for my wound problem either. I'm over Dr's lol

MummyToMason - Your long post made me smile. I swear my son is about as rambunctious as Mason. They tend to wait until you're busy doing something then off they go. Theo's managed to spread his already set up Thomas The Tank track all over the house in like 2 mins flat. then whinge cause its all wrecked. He's still being really gentle & loving with Daisy which is so cute but I've noticed he is a little more whingey & high maintenance. To be expected with all the visitors, people coming & going, Sisters coming & going & a new little baby brought home. I'm trying to give him alot of one on one time & hope that it gets better with time.

Epiphany - Thanks for the feedback about the wound. I just don't remember being this sore with the other 2. It did only bleed the day after I came home from hospital so Tuesday & its been clean & dry every since. It feels more internal & funnily enough is on the RHS which is where the Ob was standing.. How weird lol... Im going on Mon to the Dr if there is no improvement. I also have a Midwife coming for a home visit on Monday so will ask her too. Glad J is packing the weight on. I love chubby babies. Daisy has little chicken legs lol I can't wait to see some big rolls on them. Will see home much weight she has put on on Monday. She only lost 80 grams off her original birthweight while in hospital which I was happy with..

Mumof4Under5 - Geez girl. Have a rest your making me tired. I suspect you might need some multi-vitamins. Maybe you have low iron or something.. Can't hurt to take some.

Thats about all I have time for atm with Dinner on the stove.

MWAH - love to all !!!!

Rachelle x

honeydew

17-01-2009, 17:23

Welcome Kirsty! I just love your avator, Poppy is so gorgeous. I don't have anything like what you are describing but it is possible that its from wearing pads all the time. I get a bit irritated down there too if I wear pads for longer than a few days. But if it doesn't get better you should probably go see someone when you are feeling up to it. In the meantime you could try using some bepanthen cream, thats what I use if I have to and it works pretty good. You probably got some in your bounty bag if you were given one.

Mumof4- lucky you for losing so much weight!! :yelclap: Make sure you take it easy and don't do too much :hugs:

Epiphany- that is such a lovely idea of doing the hand & foot casts for J. It will be amazing to look back on and see how she has grown during her 1st year. I'm glad your visitors are leaving and you'll be able to get back to normal. It is so hard with people in the house all the time :hugs:

Shell- lol Mason did the EXACT same thing with his Thomas Track- pulled it apart then whinged it wasn't put together :laughing: I think Theo being a bit whingy is normal. Mason seems super sensitive and will be genuinely upset if he gets into trouble for something, whereas normally he would just laugh it off. Does Daisy sleep pretty much all day? Layla does and I'm not sure that its normal. I can't remember Mason sleeping this often.... she has barely any awake time, maybe 10 mins at most through the whole day and we are waking her for most feeds. She is only just getting over her jaundice and still needs to put on some weight so maybe thats what it is?

The feeding is going better although I'm still having to top her up occasionally with formula. I'd like to stop doing that eventually but until I'm sure she is putting on weight and doing well then I'll keep doing it even if its just for my own peace of mind. I seem to have plenty of milk now but she will get bored with sucking well after awhile and just use me as a dummy but then still seem hungry once I take her off. We'll get there though, and I feel a lot better about the whole situation. Especially now that my nipples aren't bleeding anymore and I can have her on me without being in agony.

earthfairy

17-01-2009, 19:22

Thanks for the advice girls.

I really think it is from wearing pads all the time - wish the bleeding would hurry up & finish!!!!!

I have just started putting some amolin on it so hopefully that helps - if its not better in the next week i'll probably head off to the doctors......*sigh*

M2M ~ thanks, Miss Poppy is a real tropical girl, being born in the tropics & all:D

muminwaiting

17-01-2009, 19:29

Hi ladies.

Hey Kirsty I was wondering where you got too.....Hello!!!!!!!! I love the name Poppy, too cute.

M2M - :yelclap: on your breatfeeding....I know this will sound stupid but I didn't know that I wasn't expressing correctly...which meant I would sit there for hrs and only get 20mls ( i think you mentioned that). I would attach the breast pump (electic) then pump like mad and get very little, I didn't know that once your milk comes down you are to slow the pumping down to a slower pace....colour me stupid :o I now get alot more (around 90mls) from each breast.

Shell - I agree take yourself of to the Doc, better to be safe than sorry.

Mumof4under5 - OMG!!! slow down girl....I got exhausted just reading your post.:laughing:

Epiphany- Yeah for getting your house back, God how did you find the energy to look after everyone. My poor DH has been living on whatever his limited cooking skills could pull together, bugger having to cook and look after visitors who are not helping you, I would have shown them the door a long time ago.

We finally have success here, Holly slept from 9.30pm after having a bottle of EBM until 2.15, I then gave here a bottle of formula (Karicare) she then slept until 5.45 and she has been a contented little girl all day. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!...I am doing one feed of EBM then one of formula..The karicare seems to be agreeing with her, she hasn't vomited any of if back up like she did the S26.....I am scared to think that we may be on a winner in case it all goes to ****. She did get a little constipated after her second bottle of formula...I seem to remember that someone on here added something to the formula to help with that or am I too sleep deprived and starting to make stuff up.:laughing:

Shell31

17-01-2009, 21:38

[quote=Mummy to Mason;3425017]Welcome

Shell- lol Mason did the EXACT same thing with his Thomas Track- pulled it apart then whinged it wasn't put together :laughing: I think Theo being a bit whingy is normal. Mason seems super sensitive and will be genuinely upset if he gets into trouble for something, whereas normally he would just laugh it off. Does Daisy sleep pretty much all day? Layla does and I'm not sure that its normal. I can't remember Mason sleeping this often.... she has barely any awake time, maybe 10 mins at most through the whole day and we are waking her for most feeds. She is only just getting over her jaundice and still needs to put on some weight so maybe thats what it is?

Hit the nail on the head. Theo has been breaking his heart if he gets in trouble for even the smallest things. Sigh.. I'm such a softie & hate seeing him break his heart...

Yep Daisy pretty much sleeps all day. I unwrap her after 4-4.5 hrs & feed her then let her sleep until she wakes herself of a night which once was only 2.5 hrs but is usually 4-5 hrs. Sometimes she isnt awake long at all just half an hour or so. Longest she is up is an hour 15 mins from when she woke. I just put her to bed when I notice those tired signs. She's very sleepy. We shouldnt complain lol..

I really need to change my avatar to a pic of Daisy AND post some. I just have to work out how and find a spare 1o mins !!!

Hope all the babies sleep well tonight :)

Cordelia

17-01-2009, 22:42

Hi everyone,

Us - Feeding is driving me mad. he's not putting enough weight so i've been supplementing with expressed milk after each feed. except then he's too full to eat 3.5 hours later (as we're supposed to be feeding regularly).... today I droped the supplementing and he had good breastfeeds but then he's probaby not putting on the weight!! I really want to breastfeed but I dont want to starve him. arrgarhgarhgarg

sleepy babies - Daniels' pretaltert for several hours a day. .. DD was very sleepy but that was because of the jaundice. it makes it really hard to feed them!! (and stressful because you have to feed them to get rid of the jaundice!)

mummy to mason - sounds like your feeding story is a little similar to mine!! It's so exhausting. I spend at least an hour breastfeeding (usually including at least 30 minutes of a struggling, screaming baby) and then feed him a bottle of expressed milk and then express milk for the next feed. So it's taking 2 hours to feed and then the next feed is an hour and a half later. i can't keep that up (esp when DH goes back to work)

mum of 4.. hrm.. why ar eyou doing all that work!? put your feet up.... that's ridiculous woman!

earthfairy - i agree with the others that the irritation is probably from the pads. I bled for 7 weeks last time but I stopped after 10 days this time - yay! I did end up with an infectino last time so if it hasn't cleared in a few days get it checked out for piece of mind.

allright better go wake the kid for a feed!!

honeydew

18-01-2009, 09:52

MIW- I didn't know that about the pumping either!!! :o I thought I should pump really fast to get the milk out quicker. I'm glad you told me that, I will try it again later now I know I'm doing it wrong. Sounds like you have a good routine going with Holly's feeding. Its such a wonderful feeling when they are contented after feeding, rather than whinging for more when you can't bear the thought of feeding them again. We use the karicare too (the gold plus) and it agrees with Layla also. In hospital the S26 was making her spew and it smelt disgusting. I think you can add coloxol drops to the bottle to help with constipation but just ask at the chemist or ask your Dr.

Shell- I'm glad Daisy is the same as Layla! I was getting paranoid about her sleeping so much, but I guess I need to remember she's only a little over a week old and technically she's still meant to be baking away inside of me! You're right, I shouldn't be complaining. Once she starts being awake all day I'll be wishing for the day back where she slept all the time :laughing: I'd love to see some pics of your little one!

Cordelia- I am finding the same thing, if I top Layla up with ebm or formula, she then isn't hungry enough at her next feed, but we are meant to be feeding her 3 hourly because she has lost so much weight. Its frustrating isn't it! I'm sure things will work themselves out. How much are you getting each time you express?

We had a good night- feed at 12, 4 then she woke at 6:30 wanting more. She is still sleeping so I should go and have a shower while I can since she is overdue to be fed and I need to wake her soon.

MummaFug

18-01-2009, 11:08

Morning All,

Hope everyone is settling in nicely with their new families....

Kirsty - WELCOME ... Glad you found this thread . I, too, am SO over wearing pads and the uncomfiness (yes thats a word) that they bring. If you are that itchy though - perhaps speak to a chemist if yoiu dont want to go to the doc.
I am SO with you on the not wanting to be poked and prodded...I am dreading the 6 week check as she'll want to check stitches - I have had enough of random strangers playing with my Vajayjay..

Mumof4 - RELAX girl !!! THis is your time to chill - You are one busy woman..I havent done that much all week..let alone in one day .ALthough may have to today - the parents are coming

Shell - Hope you are feeling better and that you got your scar checked out

MIW & M2M - OK I was told with DS not to pum in the first 6 weeks to avoid over supply :no: I now know that this is stupid and think i will start pumping today .... BUT I could NEVER get enough out . I was a 20ml pumper too, so will give it another shot ... I HATED pumping but that meant not leaving DS for more than 2 hrs "just in case"..THink I will want to get away a little now that there is 2 :confused: Hope that doesnt sound bad.

Epiphany - We had hand and foot casts done for DS ... I think the 'growing' one sounds like a fab idea...Not sure what snazzy keepsake we will do for DD yet

Nails - DH bites them off when she is sleeping .. DId it with DS and found it was the easiest way

AFM - We are doing good.. DD has been an angel except for that 1 hr withcing episode each night :D Last night was a little rough and she didnt want to sleep - which in a way - I found refreshing .. I am driving myself insane with reading stuff about Congenital Hypothyroidism and know I need to stop...All the symptoms (DD had none) but now I start to imagine them I think. We are getting some more tests done this week (Fri)...So hopefuly we will get some more answers.

My parents arrive from Oz today .. for 1 month. I was so excited about it - but am now still Pi**ed off at them for forgetting DS birthday and know I have to talk to them about it (I am NOT very good at confronting people)...But I think something has to be said.

It's Chinese New Year here next week which means people are letting off firecrackers EVERYWHERE .. It is SO loud and they actually dont care what is around them.. Someone lit one as I was walking past yesterday - I had DD and DS with me :no:NOT HAPPY.
Decorations are everywhere and Town looks really pretty at the moment...It also mean that most of the shops close for a week or so :no: No shopping for me but DH gets 7 days off so we can have some family bonding time.

OK enough from me .. I'm just rambling...
I see we are expecting some new people here soon ... SO many babies over the last 48hrs or so - had to happen after the lull.

Will try and keep up to date but not sure how much I can get on with the folks here..

:flowerz: Take care

muminwaiting

18-01-2009, 11:47

M2M - Thank god I'm not the only one...:laughing:. I felt really silly when I was in hospital when Holly had gastro and the nurse got the pump for me because my boobs were killing me and she left me for like an hr came back and I was crying and frustrated, she asked me to show her how I was doing it and she then explained that I am meant to slow the pace down to mimic Holly's sucking after your milk comes down....I felt really stupid and I couldn't believe how much time I had wasted sitting on the nursery floor crying over the past 2wks....Harsh lesson for me, I should have read the instructions that came with the pump.:o

Thanks for the tip on coloxol...Holly was really constipated last night, she seems ok at the moment.I am heading to the shops shortly I will go to the chemist..

I am taking Holly to my work tomorrow to show her off and nothing fits her, all of the cute little outfits I have are too big, the only thing I have are romper suits and I want her to look really pretty, for her first viewing...:D.

Cordelia - :hugs: Don't stress When I complained to the Doc that I didn't think Holly was getting enough to eat and I was worried about her weight gain, he told me that your breastmilk has the right amount of fat that they need and if your baby is contented after a feed he/she got enough...I was stressing all the time because I couldn't tell how much she was eating...I wanted to know the exact mls...why can't are boobs be see -through.:laughing:

Have a good day ladies, I'm off to have a shower, OMG it's nearly quarter to 1...I am going to end up on of those ladies who never seems to get out of her PJ's..:laughing: Iv'e only just had breakfast.

GoneBatty

18-01-2009, 12:59

Hiya all you lovely mummies

sounds like things are going pretty well for us all so far which is good

Kirsty i have had a small amount of irritation which i put down to being stuck in dreadful pads all the time... its has settled down tho..

Feeding we didnt get very far with our breastfeeding, she was having lots of trouble attaching so i was expressing up until a few days ago, she was still hungry all the time tho so she is now fully on the karicare gold as well having 150mls every 4-5 hours which i think is heaps and think she is gunna be a chubba bubba. but 100mls doesnt satisfy her for long enough and she would be crying for more after 1 1/2 to 2 hours things are great now

she is in a good routine of a night now she will feed between 10 and 10.30 then wake at 3am and then be up around 7 which im pretty happy with, as DS was a terrible sleeper for a long time.

Fugs Enjoy your DH's time off over the chinese new year! My DP has been on compo since we got together but is finally heading back into the workforce tomorrow!! Only 3 days a week at first but after 2 1/2 years of not working at all it going to be different for us!! Its great for him tho he hated not having work to go to for so long!

Hope everyone is good, looking forward to having some new mummies in here soon

2009 has started out great for us with Alyssa arriving DP getting back into working. Hopefully now we can buy a house to make it one hell of a year :D

1stTimeMum09

18-01-2009, 15:47

:wave: everyone...

Welcome Kirsty..

So much to keep up with so hello everyone and hope you all getting as much sleep as you can :laughing:

Bleeding-I had a VB and yeah I am on and off with the odd cramps here and there I can't wait for it too stop and to heal properly..

Just popping in too say Ryley and I are going well..He is on formula full time now and drinking 120 mls I think soon it be 150mls. Lol. First big outing tomorrow. Ryley and I are off to see my nan his great nan who I haven't seen for 20 years and she is on her last legs so it be good to see her and take some pictures..

So question what do I need in my nappy bag besides the obvious..Nappies, formula, bottles, sudo cream, nappy sack bags, wipes..Any suggestions will be great.

Well Ryley is in his rocker after a 4pm bottle feed so I am off to have tea..

Take care girls.
Kirsten

muminwaiting

18-01-2009, 17:00

1stTimemum09 - I think you pretty much have everything covered, I also pack a couple of bibs and a small hand towel for burping (Holly's a spewer) and a change of cloths in case of any accidents.

Bleeding - I had a VB and I have finally stopped bleeding, I only had two stitches so I think everything else is back to normal....This will sound terrible but DH asked me the other night how much longer we had to wait until we could start having s*x again and I lied and said the Doc said at least 8wks..:o I am too tired to even think about it....my DH wasn't one of the lucky ones, I wasn't interested whilst I was pregnant and I think he was hoping it would be back to normal as soon as bub came.:(

I went shopping and got the cutest outfit at pumpkin patch for tomorrow, I also went to Target and got some great bargins for next summer...If you can it's worth a trip I got 60% off alot of the stuff I brought...I stuck to 0's & 1's...but they had all sizes. I'm pretty sure the sale runs for 2wks.

Holly's awake and looking for the milk train, be back on later (I hope)...

Have a great night everyone.

Tricia

MummaFug

18-01-2009, 17:22

Just a question for those of you expressing....
I was SUCH a DISASTER at it with DS that I didnt leave him for more than 2 hrs for SO SO long so want it a little different this time..
Am going to try and pump later ...

BUT when do you pump....How long before or after a feed ???

If I can get this worked out - perhaps my Ma and Pa can babysit while I sneak out for a massage :thumbsup:

muminwaiting

18-01-2009, 21:09

Fugly - EXPRESSING: If I can I pump at the same time Holly is feeding, I let her start on my breast and let her go for about 15mins then I switch and put the pump on the breast I just took her off, then when she has finished feeding I get her settled and then continue to pump. Otherwise I leave it for about an hr after a feed and pump then....If you can skip a breastfeed and give a bottle Of EBM, then pump what you would have breastfeed her I found it doesn't take as long, I am trying to do one of EBM and 1 of formula, but it would work with one EBM and one breastfeed as well. I just found it doesnt take as long to pump a feed then.

I am still having trouble finding a formula that is right, the Karicare HA HR one that I have is making her constipated...the coloyln drops haven't worked so far....I think I will switch to the ordinary Karicare infant formula and not have the one that is so thick, DH has just read on the tin that you shouldn't feed the one I have without a Doctors advice (which I don't have) and he is not happy with me, I cant win. We are upto 150mls a feed every 3-4hrs I wish I could get that much each time I pump but I am only getting about 90mls, so i never have enough for 1 feed each pump, so i need the formula to top up. Why is this all so hard.:confused::(

Cordelia

18-01-2009, 21:34

:wave:

Expressing - I'm goign nuts trying to get enough milk to a) boost my supply and b) supplement his feeds so he gains more weight.

In the morning I can express up to 300-400ml and then later in the day I get just over 200ml. its better to do it first thing in the morning and i guess the more you do it the easier it is... it takes me about 5 minutes per breast. I'm racking up the freezer with zip lock bags of breast milk for when my breasts stop being so engorged!! I will have quite a supply!!!!

Feeding has been a bit better today... I only tried to supplement him once and he didn't want it. We skipped a night feed so he went from 10pm to 6am. I told another mum this today and she said "well, i guess that's ok if yuo're not worried about him gainign weight"... I felt SO bad!!! I hadnt' intended to sleep through - I thought he would wake up. Anyway, will get him weighed tomorrow and if he's gaining then I wont be so worried abotu waking him up in the middle of the night.

I know someone already suggested this but we foudn the Heinz formula the best. Altho they've changed it since we used it with DD. It hasn't got a strong a flavour as other formulas (well it didn't anyway!!)

nappy bags - I agree lots of muslin wraps and changes of clothes!!!

breastfeeding - i never really had a problem getting them out in public with DD towards the end but I forget how much people stare!!! Today at a 2 year old's birthday I was sitting with some friends adn this guy came with a video camera. Im fairly discreet so he may not hvae realised but he said "and here is the brand new baby daniel!" and zoomed up on my breasts!!!!!!!! GREAT..... friends were having a laugh saying my boobs will be on facebook in a few days ahah...

and then we went to the river ... and I wont get into the story but DH went nuts at this guy who kept hanging around me while I was feeding. I mean, for goodness sake... what are breasts made for? A woman came up to me afterwards and said "you're so brave doing that in public" errr...... no i'm a mother and my baby needs feeding. I wish more women breastfed openly to normalize it more. Having said that, I'm the first to be covered in a muslin wrap... hgehe

ewps - what a spiel!! sorry. wd if you got to the end!!!! have a great night everyoen :)

MummaFug

18-01-2009, 23:31

haha - LOVE it ...
I breastfeed anywhere and everywhere...And am so un-co at it that I am sure people see it all ... I Breastfed DS for 16mths and dont really care who sees :no:

HOW ON EARTH DO YOU GET 400mls ???

Thanks for the info Muminwaiting (no longer waiting though)

:crying:I suck at this Expressing stuff. I was really proud of myself for getting 60mls.
I want a EBM stash in my freezer !!! I waited for 1 hr after DD fed, then expressed - but its like she isnt getting enough at the next feed .. Or is that just my imagination ????

OK I'm off to the breastfeeding section to get some more hints..

Cordelia

19-01-2009, 00:19

fugly - dont worry! 60 mls is great - and not an indicator of how much bub is getting at a feed.

i express after every feed so my milk supply is nuts. I just wanted to add that I think it'sbest to express immediately after a feed as the milk and gushy maternal feelings are the highest you're going to get.

Shell31

19-01-2009, 06:49

Good Morning ladies

How are all the beautiful mothers & new bubba's going?

Everyone seems to be expressing like maniacs right now. It's unbelievable lol.. I went through this with DS but have decided with Daisy to just get b/f'ing established for now & get us both into a routine before even attempting to express. I remember the stress & upset when I couldnt get much & it didnt matter what I read on the subject I like you Fugly thought if I only expressed 60mls then that meant that was all DS was getting. Of course I knew it wasnt true but its a rare mother who can breastfeed their baby & never ever worry or wonder if they are getting enough. I think thats what makes it so difficult. Because you cant see like a bottle how much they are getting you automatically think that is the problem first when bubs is fussy. Joy Joy!!!
I don't mind not going anywhere or leaving her for more then 2 hrs right now. I know that will change later but for now I"m happy doing what I'm doing.

Fugly - china sounds beautiful at this time of year albeit a little noisy. You should take some photo's so all us down under can have a peak into your world. lol @ no shopping. NOoooooo !!I'm CRACKING to get into Target but still too sore for the car or walking any great distances. Thank goodness its a 2 week sale although everything will probably be sold out by the time I get in there :no:

MuminWaiting - Is Holly completely over her gastro bug now? How horrid that she & you had to go through that when she is so little. Confession - Yesterday I actually stayed in my pj's ALL DAY !!!! yes I realised when I went to have a shower at night that I was still in my nike singlet & shorts (My pj's) I looked at DH & said.. WOW.. what a hot mumma I am hey :laughing: I"m not going anywhere so I don't care. I brushed the hair. What else do they want !!!
Hope you sort out the formula soon. It can be so frustrating trying all the different ones. Then there is the trying all the different, teats, bottles, dummies, nappies etc Its neverending.. Trying to find what is right for your little bub. Costs alot too lol

GoneBatty - Thats fantastic that DP is starting back in the workforce. It will be a huge change for you all but I'm sure it will be for the better. A little bit of extra money won't go astray hey. Also will probably good for you guys to get a break from each other while he's at work. I love seeing DH at the end of his day when he comes home & I love the look on the kids faces when they hear his car.... :) Alyssa seems to be settling in really well. Hope it keeps up for you.

1stTimeMum09 - Aww I'm glad to hear Ryley is thriving on his formula. Have fun at your Nan's house. Nan's just love babies don't they. I don't have any Nan's still alive :no:. You are so so lucky.

Cordelia - lol @ your hubby having a go at the lurker.. what a creep !!!
How's your form with the milk.. Crikey women your like a regular milk bar!!!!!!! 400mls :eek: gobsmacked. Your a legend sista!

AFM - Midwife is coming for our home visit today. We've been home from hospital one week now. Can't wait to see if Daisy has put on weight. She's still going great guns & feeding 4 hourly or maybe a little longer at night. My wound is feeling a little better but still sore. I only had ONE painkiller yesterday WOO HOO. I had hoped to go without but it got to 8pm at night & I was shuffling along like an old women. OH also sorry for TMI but I have the greatest pleasure to announce I now have a Hemaroid... Noiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.. Never had them before & OMFG it's feral & it hurts to sit down. YAY another place to hurt now! Guess thats what I get for going 5 days without a number two after the operation. I got some cream from the chemist with local anesthetic in it & its helping but I was horrified. I rang mum up PEAKING saying WHAT THE HELL IS THIS MUM!! lol She calmly explained I've been lucky to get through 3 previous pregnancies & births & NOT get them. Anyone else had this problem? IF so what did you find helped?

Well better go feed DS. I'm letting DH have a sleep in this morning. He's been a trooper staying up with me for the last late night feeds & getting up with me in the morning but isnt sleeping during the day like I am so I thought I'd give him a rest.

Have a lovely day everyone.
Rachelle x

Shell31

19-01-2009, 07:34

Hi again Ladies. I think I've worked out this photobucket. Hope you like the photo's Daisy Grace. Hope they work lol

http://s489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/Shell31/

BubsNo1

19-01-2009, 11:00

Yes I'm in here already, trying to pick up some advice before it all happens!! :laughing:

I just wanted to say Shell, what absolutely beautiful pictures!! Daisy looks like such an angel and little Theo, how cute is he!! :cloud9: You do good work woman :D

Logan&KodasMumma

19-01-2009, 13:29

I can't put my feet up because no one else will do it, and I hate the house being untidy, cuz then it's an even bigger mess for me to have to clean up.....

Cords- Have you tried just expressing a little before each feed to soften the nipple and aereoli so bubs can get a good grip, this is what my mw told me to do so my breast don't become too engorged from over supplying.

Will do more personals later

Muah

beck75

19-01-2009, 13:59

Hi All

Just wanted to let you all know that Jake got home today finally! Don't have time to post any personals but will try to get on again over the next few days!

Oh and with expressing - I am OVER it!! I have been expressing for 3 weeks and have a mountainload of it in the freezer! I don't get 400mls out in the morning either but I never had a big supply with my DD and still managed to maintain breastfeeding so I wouldn't worry too much.

Anyway I have to run.

1stTimeMum09

19-01-2009, 15:15

Hi girls..

Thank you everyone who gave me tips..

Shell-:hugs: I was a bit nervous seeing her after 20 years...

:wave: to everyone else.

AFM-My first outing went really well getting on and off the train was a bit hard but I had dad's help I hope I be okay when I go out on my own because the platforms are pretty low..Good to see my nan after 20 years and she was smitten with Ryley as well and so were his 2 great great aunts.

Glad to be home its so hot and I think I be in for a bad night cos Ryley hates the heat. Have the MCHN coming tomorrow for the first visit and then I be going down to see them I am going to ask about the mothers group thing I wouldn't mind joining one.

Hope you all are well..
Kirsten

Jelly Baby

19-01-2009, 15:50

Hi again Ladies. I think I've worked out this photobucket. Hope you like the photo's Daisy Grace. Hope they work lol

http://s489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/Shell31/

Well done Shell.

What a gorgeous little thing Daisy Grace is. :baby:

1stTimeMum09

19-01-2009, 16:12

Shell-aww she is cute..Baby brain got to me and I just had a look. :)

Shell31

19-01-2009, 20:02

:D Thanks guys.. I am so unbelievably in love with her. Let me assure all the first time Mum's that it matters not how many children you have. The love you feel when you welcome a little piece of you & your soul mate into the world is out of this world whether its your first or like me.. Your 4th.

Midwife came today. She has put on 360 grams in a week since we were discharged so I guess the breastfeeding is going well. The midwife was concerned she is only having 6 feeds a day but then she weighed her & said that she's obviously getting everything she needs. I'm so proud :D. Apparently the average weight gain in the first few weeks is between 120 & 250 grams so she's well above average.. YAY!!!

Hope everyone else is doing well & smiling. Give those babies a squish for me.

OH I've also had no morphine today.. YAY!!! Just a couple of panadol.. WOO HOO I think I"m on the mend. Going to hit Target tomorrow so will probably need a tablet or two tomorrow night lmao..

Love to all
Rachelle x

muminwaiting

19-01-2009, 20:29

Hello Ladies,

Shell31 - Holly is over her gastro bug, thank god....It was awful to see her so sick and be completely helpless to fix her, we just had to ride it out.....I hit Target again today, I couldn't help myself, I had to sneak it into the house, Dh doesn't understand :laughing:...I have so much cloths for next summer already :D.

crodelia - OMG womem 400mls, I would be beside myself with glee if I could get that much.

US - I got Holly the karicare gold formula today and she has hjust had her 3rd feed, I didn't get enough ebm this morning to cover us on our trip out today....so far she is a happy ontented baby...touch wood..although her poos OMG they are horrible....I gacve her the Coloxyl drops yesterday..does anyone know how long they take to work, I am hoping that is why her poos are so bad and its not the formula, because she has been so happy today....she is still a little spewy but it is better than her screaming with constipation...

Shes awake my 5min break is over.:laughing:

*Sparkles*

19-01-2009, 21:11

Feeding we didnt get very far with our breastfeeding, she was having lots of trouble attaching so i was expressing up until a few days ago, she was still hungry all the time tho so she is now fully on the karicare gold as well having 150mls every 4-5 hours which i think is heaps and think she is gunna be a chubba bubba. but 100mls doesnt satisfy her for long enough and she would be crying for more after 1 1/2 to 2 hours things are great now she is in a good routine of a night now she will feed between 10 and 10.30 then wake at 3am and then be up around 7 which im pretty happy with, as DS was a terrible sleeper for a long time.

My bub is the same, he's drinking 150mls and gaining heaps of weight. Also goes 5-6 hours at night too :thumbsup:

I am still having trouble finding a formula that is right, the Karicare HA HR one that I have is making her constipated...the coloyln drops haven't worked so far....I think I will switch to the ordinary Karicare infant formula and not have the one that is so thick, DH has just read on the tin that you shouldn't feed the one I have without a Doctors advice (which I don't have) and he is not happy with me, I cant win. We are upto 150mls a feed every 3-4hrs I wish I could get that much each time I pump but I am only getting about 90mls, so i never have enough for 1 feed each pump, so i need the formula to top up. Why is this all so hard.:(

You can buy a tin of thickener by Karicare and then add how ever much you want to the normal formula. Maybe see how that goes? It's hard to find the most suitable one sometimes. That's why I like the AR and not the HA AR as it caused problems with the poos aswell.

AFM -Things have been getting a bit tough as Alex has been having some unsettled times and I'm stressing about how I will cope without DH here. It's really hard at times when the baby is screaming especially if I'm dealing with DS so I have to leave the baby to cry at times. I suppose that's just the way it is with the second bub, we only have one pair of hands!!

1stTimeMum09

20-01-2009, 11:07

Hi girls..

Shell-glad your on the mend..

Muminwaiting-Ryley a bit spewy on his formula. I found given them water in between feeds will help them do poos and it works for us.

Hels-you can do as much as you can..:hugs:

:wave: to everyone else..

Well the MCHN just came and left and Ryley now weights 3680grams and he head has grown from 32cm (birth) to now 36cm and he has a bit of thrush on his tongue so going to get some NilStat drops today for him but other than that he is going well she said and he is growing beautifully. And I feel much better and feed him ever 3 hours I thought it was ever 4 hours but he is waking up before that now so I'm happy and feel more relaxed.

My brother bought me a cot and I didn't expect it and I think the mattress that came with the cot looks brand new and hardly used so I am going to use it.

Hope you all are well.
Kirsten

muminwaiting

20-01-2009, 13:54

Hi Everyone :wave:

1stTimeMum09 - Thanks for the tip..I will give it a try.

Hels* & Gonebatty - I am the same, we are doing 150ml feeds, most feeds she drinks it all sometimes she leaves a couple of mls. Since I switched to EBM & formula feeds, Holly has been so much better, last night she slept from 11.30pm - 5.15am. I think my plan is a good one, I just need to keep on top of the expressing to keep my milk up.

US - We had our paed's appointment today, no wonder people end up frustrated and confussed,(especially me:p) I had been advised in the beginning to use the "demand feeding" system, so I have been and the last week it has been working for us, the Doc I see today completely contridicts those instructions and the paediatrician we spoke to last week and tells me I should be waking Holly every three hrs for a feed and using the "feed, play & sleep" system, I think that was what it was called, I do recall someone else mentioning on here that is what they are doing. She nearly had a heart attack when I said I had been giving her formula, this was after she prasied me on the fact Holly's weight was up to 4.2kilos. I stopped listening to her after she started the formula bashing.

So I am sticking to the system I am using, If I can get the EBM I will give her that, if not formula it will be.

Hope everyone is having a great day, and keeping your bubs cool in this rotten heat we are having today.

Tricia

Shell31

20-01-2009, 14:16

MumInWaiting - Good for you sticking to your guns & doing what you think is best for you & Holly. You sound so relaxed & confident which is great and who can argue with the weight gain & content baby :D Keep up the good work!

1stTimeMum09 - Thanks Kirsten. How good that Ryley has put on so much weight & grown so much already. Thats fantastic news. So nice of your brother to give you the cot too. I wouldnt be worried about using the mattress. If you're a little concerned you can always give it a sponge over & leave it out in the sunlight. Hey if it saves money who cares hey.

HelsBels - I feel for you. DH is still home with us for another 4 days & then he's back to work. I'm a little worried about how I"ll manage both Daisy & Theo but I don't think it hurts the babies to have a little cry every now & then. Its stressful though & I don't like it one bit. I'm sure you'll work through it as I will. Don't really have a choice do we lol

Well I hit target today but it wasnt very sucessful :no: I wasnt feeling well & Theo was really tired & over it after 5 mins. I couldnt find a trolley with a baby capsule thing in it so had to carry Daisy (Pram doesnt fit in my Corolla & I can't get up into DH's 4wd yet) & that didnt leave me enough hands to look through everything. DH offered to take the kids to the food court so I could look on my own but I'd lost interest by then. Might try & get back later in the week alone when I'm feeling abit better. The walk from the car to Target took alot out of me. In saying that my wound feels better then ever today I'm just tired & need a rest.

Hope you're all feeling well & the bubs are happy. Rest up!

Rachelle xx

1stTimeMum09

20-01-2009, 14:16

Muminwaiting-make sure its boiled water that has cooled down for a bit about 20mls or 30 mls should do the trick..Ryley is loving it today as it so hot..

Shell-it sure does. He was going to give me money for a cot that turned a toddler bed but I don't mind and it does save me money. I got a trampoline so I might put on there and let some air on it..Yeah he is a growing boy. Lol. Hope you get plenty of rest..

honeydew

20-01-2009, 14:30

Aww Shell, Daisy is just beautiful!!!! And how gorgeous is Theo, he is going to break some hearts when he grows up. Thanks for sharing! I'm going to try to hit Target this afternoon before picking Mason up from daycare too. Might get some things for next summer if I can.

1sttimemum- well done on your first outing! Its quite daunting at first but you get the hang of it. I remember thinking I would never be able to cope on my own with Mason when I had to go to the shops for anything but it didn't take long. I used to panic when he cried that everyone would think I was a bad mum but of course that's irrational. Now I am panicking about having to take BOTH kids out on my own but I'm sure it'll be fine!!

Cordelia- OMG can you share some of your milk with me?!! :laughing: You are doing an amazing job to get that much when you express!

Hels- I'm worried about DH going back to work as well. We'll get there though, I'm sure we'll both be looking back in a few months time wondering what we were ever worried about.

Welcome back Beck!! How is little Jake going now? I've been thinking of you.

Fugs- did your family arrive safe and sound and did you mention anything about them forgetting DS's birthday?

MIW- you sound so confident getting out and about already! Pumpkin patch clothes are gorgeous arent they, esp the little girl stuff. If you go to their online store you can get some good bargains. I shop on there a lot because our closest store is over 2 hours away.

I'm sure I read more but I can't remember anything else sorry :o

We went back and saw the chn yesterday. Layla has put on 140g since last thursday so she was really happy with that. She's now telling me to top up with formula after every breastfeed but I don't want to do that because it defeats the purpose of trying to build up my supply :confused: Plus Layla has been vomitting after formula feeds and then spends the next few hours crying with wind pain. Last night I was up with her from 1:30am-5am. Thank god DH is home so he got up to Mason and let me sleep after Layla went back to sleep. I am exhausted! I'm not really sure what to do... I want to do what the chn says but at the same time I know its not working for us. I'd rather breastfeed more often through the day and only top up with formula if absolutely necessary. If I am giving her formula after every breastfeed then she is not hungry enough when its time to feed her again so doesn't suck well or get much.... I cant beleive I feel so confused about what to do when this is my 2nd child. And I am worrying too much about doing what I'm told to do, rather than what I feel is right.

Shell31

20-01-2009, 16:07

Thanks Haylie :D

Don't you just hate the conflicting advice you get. Everyone is an expert hey.. I think you should do whatever you feel is best for you & Layla. You can always change hey. If you want to keep going with the breastfeeding then keep it up and if after a week or so Layla isnt putting on weight again then you can try what she suggests. She is your baby & I think you shouldnt feel pressured into doing anything you don't feel comfortable with..

:hugs: for the unsettled night. Hope tonight is a better one for you.

Rachelle x

Cordelia

20-01-2009, 18:23

Hi everyone,

CHN dropped by today to weigh daniel...and he put on 155g in a week. ARRGGGHHH... lik ethat's acceptable but the HOURS i put into feeding him, expressing, topping him up... i want amazing results!! Maybe my breastmilk is lowfat :laughing: so frustrating

mummy to mason - i agree that giving your baby formula is not going to do your supply any favours.... especially seeing as she is in discomfort afterwards. I agree - stick with your intuition. I've decided to keep Daniel on the breast as much as possible to build up milk supply and help his weight. DH is home til the end of the week so I want to do it whiel i have the opportunity.

oops i've hardly addressed anyone's posts - sorry. i'm so tired and have to get dinner on but i'll be back later. :)

*Sparkles*

20-01-2009, 21:20

Hels* & Gonebatty - I am the same, we are doing 150ml feeds, most feeds she drinks it all sometimes she leaves a couple of mls. Since I switched to EBM & formula feeds, Holly has been so much better, last night she slept from 11.30pm - 5.15am. I think my plan is a good one, I just need to keep on top of the expressing to keep my milk up.

US - We had our paed's appointment today, no wonder people end up frustrated and confussed,(especially me:p) I had been advised in the beginning to use the "demand feeding" system, so I have been and the last week it has been working for us, the Doc I see today completely contridicts those instructions and the paediatrician we spoke to last week and tells me I should be waking Holly every three hrs for a feed and using the "feed, play & sleep" system, I think that was what it was called, I do recall someone else mentioning on here that is what they are doing. She nearly had a heart attack when I said I had been giving her formula, this was after she prasied me on the fact Holly's weight was up to 4.2kilos. I stopped listening to her after she started the formula bashing.

So I am sticking to the system I am using, If I can get the EBM I will give her that, if not formula it will be.

It sounds like you are doing a great job. I believe in demand feeding too but occasionally I will go by the clock, particularly at bed time or if we are going out somewhere. Personally, I think force feeding a baby every 3 hours is rediculous. It's a bit like us having to eat brekky, lunch and dinner within 6 hours... as if!!

Sorry, my brain is mush and I forgot what everyone else said :o

We are going well except for the arsenic time in the evening. So long as he sleeps well at night, I don't mind the crappy days so much lol.

Alex was 4 weeks old today and we have 2 more newborn nappies left to use and then he is in infants!! He's growing so quickly and a lot of the small outfits fit him only once and then he can't wear them anymore. It won't be long until I have a whole batch of size 0000 clothes to sell on ebay lol.

Logan&KodasMumma

21-01-2009, 08:05

hey ladies *very exhausted wave*,

I'm so over my home life. My eyeballs r practically falling out of my head. My Dh is hopeless...I'm pretty much @ breaking point.

:crying:

i have 2 do all the cleaning, cooking... everything.
i dont know what to do really, he's great with koda except he wont change his nappy, but thats not a reason 2 stay with someone is it?

Shell31

21-01-2009, 10:03

Mum of 4 :hugs:

Poor thing.. Wish I could come over & make you a cuppa & have a whinge with you. Amazing what a good b!tch can do for the soul. Nothing like a good offload. Can you just ask him to help you? You're probably like me & have certain ways you like things done & probably don't like asking but you need a break sweets. You'll fall in a heap if you don't get a little break. Do you have any family nearby to help you out at all? I know you probably feel you shouldnt have to ask anyone else when you have a perfectly good husband there and all but its all about you & looking after you right now so you can look after your little family.

And if all else fails.. Come on here & get it all off your chest ;)

Hope you're day improves sweetheart.
Rachelle x

1stTimeMum09

21-01-2009, 11:36

Hi girls..

Mumof4-:hugs: you poor thing and bl00dy men. I wish I can help too..

M2M-yeah it was a little scary and Melbourne train platforms can a little high so hopefully I be okay getting off cos getting on is fine. Lol. I think you be okay..

Cordelia-hopefully Daniel will put on weight soon..

Hels-Ryley nearly finished his first box of Huggies Newborns! I am glad I bought another box..

:wave: to everyone else I missed..

AFM-I am quite proud of my boy he done 3 poos in less then 12 hours. :laughing: He was a little constipated so I am happy he feeling much better. But he has been wetting through his nappies and I think I change him about 4 times last night and early this morning. He is waking up now for his next feed and I haven't had lunch yet but I had a bath at least. Lol. Off to Centre Link tomorrow about my payments and such and that should be fun wish me luck. Lol.

Well hope you all are well..
Kirsten

muminwaiting

21-01-2009, 11:38

mumof4under5yrs- Oh Honey :hugs:I agree with Shell I wish I could give you the hugs in person. Men can be stupid sometimes and they need us to spell everything out to them, let your DH know that you are not coping and you would like some extra help. I understand exactly were you are coming from, my DH hasn't changed one nappy either (He nearly vomited at the smell *MEN*), I hadn't slept very well the night before and when DH got home from work last night he came in said Hello Bub and then went straight down to his shed and had a beer to unwind and chatted on the phone, he finally came back up to the house at 8pm and wanted to know what was for dinner ( He got nothing), I was so angry with him and after about 10mins of silence he asked what was wrong and I just burst into tears, (Holly had been awake most of the day and she was wingy), I yelled at him that he has no idea what hard work it is to look after a baby all day, especially when they are not asleep, how do you keep a 4wk old amused for hrs???? I have no idea, I told him off for coming home and going down to his garage and getting to relax, I asked him where was my time off, I can't even get 10mins to have a bath before he is knocking on the door telling me Holly needs her nappy changed or she is crying and he can't get her to stop..I don't think he even realised that I was struggling.

Don't make any rash decsions about your marriage right now, think about what your family life was like before Koda came along, were you happy?..A new baby is alot of work, you are not superwomen, it is ok not to do the house cleaning, kids & Dh can have baked beans on toast one night, if DH doesn't like it he can cook. Do you have your mum/friend/ relative that could come over for a couple of hrs so you can get some sleep?. If not talk to your Doctor there are free places that you and bub can check into for a couple of nights so you can get some rest and recharge your batteries.

US - We had a shocker yesterday and last night, Holly was awake for most of the day she kept having these 10min power naps and then would be wide awake again, she was badly constipated & windy, and she has horrible reflux, I gave her the Coloxyl, but it didn't seem to help, she wouldn't feed, she just screamed all night, I rang my GP first thing this morning and the only appointment he had for a week was in 10mins, I raced up to the clinic, I didn't even have time to brush my hair :o, Doc took one look at me, gave Holly to his nurse, sat down with me and listened while I burst into tears, explaing how I was so frustrated with everything, I think I have her feeding right then she gets constipated again, my pumping isn't going to plan I pumped like mad yesterday and I didn't get much at all... I told him about all the conflicting advise I keep being given and I think I am on top of everything and then as soon as something goes wrong I come down like a ton of bricks and I loose all of my confidence. He then went and got Holly and brought her back in to his room to take a look at her, and as soon as he took of her cloths and stuck the paddle pop stick into her mouth to take a look, she pooed all over his bed...I didn't know if I should laugh or cry, poor guy had poo on his shirt (and it was a bad one) he laughed and said all I need is a paddle pop stick and it frightens the poo right out of her..He also was the first "health care professional" to not bag me out for giving her formula. He advises me to give up on the pumping (Holly wont attach) and just stick to the formula, I am stressing all the time about the next feed, because I wanted to alternate her feeding and if I don't get enough EBM I then hate myself for giving her two formula feeds in a row. I came home gave her a formula feed and she has been asleep for the last hr. :smiliedance:

I am shattered and am going to go and lay down with her...sorry for the long post.:(

GoneBatty

21-01-2009, 12:19

Oh dear looks like there are some big :hugs: needed in here at the moment

mumof4:hugs: for you hun you need to tell DH you need a hand! Men can be a bit blind and not notice what needs to be done or that you need a bit of help!
My DP isnt to bad but ill leave the dishes for him to do and they'll sit there for over a day until i specifically tell him he NEEDS to do it! Or i start getting cranky and he asks whats wrong, when i tell him i think he should do something to help he tells me that i should just specifically tell him what i want him to do other wise he really just doesnt know! Thats men for u they are a bit stupid about domestic things! And i HATE to ask him to do something because it makes me feel like a big nagging b!tch or something but honestly just tell him what he HAS TO DO! he doesnt have a choice lol

MIW :hugs: for u to! i know what its like to stress yourself about the feeding because i did it with DS. Thats why this time i tried my best with BF and expressing, when it didnt work out and she was always still hungry i was ok with the fact that id rather her be on formula than be always hungry! I know its not easy with the constipation and reflux coz again DS had the same specially when he went onto formula (it took me a while to find one that agreed with him) and it really was a nightmare and so so hard to deal with and go through BUT it did get better and it WILL get better for u sweety.

Just remember guys we are all here for each other through the tough times! dont ever feel bad for coming on and having a good old vent/whinge/ b!tch about anything! thats the great thing about this place we can all help support each other in the tough times of it all!!

AFM After my last post saying how well she was going she had a terrible day and night 2 days ago was very unsettled, not sleeping crying alot just generally unhappy! but is now back to her sweet little self and slept 8.30pm till 6am! i woke up 2 times tho and have to check that she was ok!

Hope everyone else is good! better get going and get some housework done while DS is asleep and before DD wakes for her feed!!

honeydew

21-01-2009, 14:11

How is everyone today??

Cordelia- LOL at your low-fat breastmilk :laughing: That sounds so funny! Daniels weight gain is excellent! I know what you mean about wanting to see amazing results after all that hard work, but I think you have done an excellent job!

Hels- 4 weeks already! That has gone so fast. Kinda sad he is moving onto bigger nappies... we are having that shocking time in the evening as well. Around 5-8pm is Layla's unsettled time and then again later in the night.

Mumof4- I agree with the others, you should to tell your DH what he NEEDS to do to help you out. You can't keep doing it all by yourself otherwise you will end up run down. Even if he hung out the washing, did some dishes or vacuumed once every couple of days, it would be a help to you. And he should definately be helping change nappies!! I think that when husbands slack off (mine can be the same at times too) it makes you start resenting them a little bit. Esp when you are stuck at home with a new baby and can't really do much other than focus on running the house and looking after the kids. Huge hugs to you :hugs:

Shell- I got your last text but didn't get around to replying sorry. So glad to hear your pain is getting better :thumbsup:

Kirsten- well done Ryley! Its funny how once you become a mum you get excited about stuff like poos :laughing: Good luck at centrelink.

MIW- its great you went and saw your Dr. And I can tell from reading your post that you feel a lot better about the feeding now. Happy mum= happy baby :yes:

GoneBatty- (love your username btw!) well done on the sleep through!!!

Us- we went to the Dr today. He looked at my wound because it had bled a little bit and gave me some antibiotics but I don't know if I should take them because google says they could affect my milk supply. What do you girls think, should I take them? I think he said they were more for 'just in case' I get an infection, rather than I have one already. Also got some more tablets for my milk supply as I can tell its dropping off and I really need to ditch the formula and feel like its an uphill battle without some help. And I also got a script for the mini pill but we've decided I won't take it. We don't want to mess with my hormones as we hope to fall pregnant naturally next time and not have to go through the fertility treatment again.

He checked Layla and she has put on more weight and he said she is doing really well. I feel so much better now I went and saw him... I'm a bit of a paranoid mum and seem to need constant reassurance that I'm doing everything right. I don't know why I'm like this because I wasn't this bad with Mason. I think because he was a big baby and seemed a lot healthier, I dunno. But I feel a lot more confident now that I know she is gaining weight and my breast milk must be doing some good :D

Last night I decided not to wake Layla for her feeds because it seems silly to do so. Especially after the other night when I woke her and she then stayed awake for 3.5 hours! So last night after she settled at about 11, we put her to sleep and she was still asleep when I woke up at 6am!!! I had to wake her then though because it had been 7 hours and I wanted her fed so I could get ready and ring the Dr at 8 hoping to get one of their last-minute appointments for today. Glad I did!

*Sparkles*

21-01-2009, 14:53

Sounds like some big :hugs: are needed for those who are struggling or have unhelpful partners.
Mine is pretty good, in fact he's great with the kids but I am always tidying up after him and he has shocking time management. He will sit on his laptop playing games when both kids are asleep. Then when they wake up he wants to take off down to the shop, or have a shower or go out to the shed! I have a go at him for not doing it when the kids are asleep :banghead:
I am actually looking forward to him returning to work next week so we can get back into a routine and I can get him out from under my feet :D But I know I will also miss not having him here too.

Alex is also hard to settle sometimes during the day. And I agree, it can be hard to entertain them for hours on end. I quite often lay Alex in the pram infront of the TV which he likes. I have heard that carrying them around in a sling can help settle them too. I don't do this as I have a weak back.

The good thing is that from about 3 months they become more alert and active, start sleeping through the night and also settle down a bit more during the day. So hang in there everyone as it will get easier soon.

Personally, I love it when they get to 6 months old as they become so much fun!

GoneBatty

21-01-2009, 16:06

M2M Thanks i was actually trying to think of a new username coz i didnt really like it :laughing: Thats great Layla is still gaining weight well. i dont have a CHN app till DD is six weeks but i was thinking i might take her down to the baby club in at the chemist and get her weighed this week just to make sure she is still growing, even tho im sure she is. i have noticed some chubbiness coming on her legs lol.

We had another good day here she has slept for most of it i hope she sleeps well tonight still! DS hasnt been to bad for me either, got a bit agro before but went outside to run around for a while and must of burnt off some built up energy!

Time for me to go start on tea so DP can eat when he gets home :)

Oh and im still waiting for a txt from Tracy about her birth details ive been jumping at my phone every time i get a msg lol i get excited everyone is meeting their babies!

Jelly Baby

21-01-2009, 19:45

We had another good day here she has slept for most of it i hope she sleeps well tonight still! DS hasnt been to bad for me either, got a bit agro before but went outside to run around for a while and must of burnt off some built up energy!

That sounds alot like my day only the agro usually starts when I try to get him back in the pram after the park. Oh well, it's only a few minutes away from home so I don't have too long for people to stare at a crazy toddler having a major tantie, a screaming newborn and a sleep deprived mother with leaking boobs!!!! :laughing:

My DD is now 5 weeks old and so far I've been demand feeding because she was born @ 35 weeks. But now I feel it's time to start spacing out her feeds to at least 2.5 - 3 hourly. Up until today I haven't used a dummy and she hasn't seemed too keen for it but today I've persisted with it a bit more to lengthen the time between feeds.

Is that what I should be doing?

Why am I feeling a bit weird about this whole dummy thing. I remember holding off with DS until about 2 weeks and now at 20 months he's still sucking away.

Anyone else hesitant to introduce the dummy??

Can't wait to see all the new Jan mummies here soon, not many left. :yelclap:

honeydew

21-01-2009, 20:43

Hels- I agree, 3 months is a lovely age! I love any age up until 18 months and then its all down hill from there :laughing: Terrible Twos are a disaster!

Gone Batty- hanging out for news of Tracy! Hopefully everything is ok with her :fingerscrossed:

JellyBaby- I too am hesitant to introduce a dummy. We are still trying to establish breast feeding and I don't want to interfere with that, plus I really don't want to have to worry about packing a dummy and always having one on hand etc. I hope I can continue without one, although some times I do wish I had one to pop in her mouth and stop her crying! I think you are doing the right thing with stretching out the feeds if that's what you feel is right. You can always try it anyway and if its not working you can go back to demand feeding.

Does anyone else find the early evenings are really hectic? Tonight I cooked dinner and had it ready on the table, then Layla woke for a feed and fed for nearly an hour. I of course ate my dinner cold. Then trying to get Mason bathed and into bed, settle Layla, organise DH to get stuff done to help.... I'm exhausted! I was planning on going to bed after Layla's last feed but I still had to pack Mason's daycare bag for tomorrow and clean up. Now I may as well stay up and wait for her next feed otherwise I won't get much sleep and will be woken soon anyway! I think I need to start being more organised.

bootiful

22-01-2009, 10:52

im finally here :D

im loving being a mummy of 2...finally starting to feel my old self again.

Nicole is sleeping really well and feeding all the time.

I get my stitches out today but my tummy is sooo bruised :(

ill pop back later on, got visiting middy coming soon so better go tidy up..

bye :wave:

Shell31

22-01-2009, 18:13

Hi Ladies :wave:

I am knackered today. Don't know why cause I really didnt do anything. Stayed home all day & Theo went to daycare but I'm just feeling so lethargic. Cooked a nice creamy chicken & bacon fettucine tonight for dinner.
Daisy fed at 3.15am this morning then went to 8.3o am and has kind of been all over the place today since then. Fed her again at 11 but she only had 5 mins then fed her again at 2 again only 5-9 mins then again at 4 & again at 6. I guess she had a big stint this morning & then a teeny feed so she is making up for it. She's laying on the lounge next to me all snuggled up with her dummy. I"ll bath her soon & try & stetch the next feed out until atleast 9pm. Shes not crying though so thats atleast one thing. She just doesnt seem to cry much phew lol

Theo's being a handful. He hasnt liked going back to daycare at all & is getting worse with the clingyness with DH. He all of a sudden hates baths & showers which he previously loved. He won't let DH out of his sight & is fusy at dinnertime. He is still sleeping no worries so thats something I guess.

Dinnertime is a rush even if the kids are being good. Wonder how I'll go from Monday when the girls are back & DH is on afternoon shift :eek:

Hope you are all doing ok & feeling better then me.

Rachelle x

*Sparkles*

22-01-2009, 20:20

We use a dummy for settling during the day but Alex never goes to bed with it at night.
His brother ditched the dummy at 3 mths old and sucks his fingers instead, but only when he's tired.
It doesn't really bother me as they grow out of it eventually. I sucked my fingers too for a long time too!

Evenings are always hectic here too. I have asked DH if he can try to be home by 6pm (when he returns to work) so he can help with dinner times etc. I also told him that I can't always guarantee there will be a meal on the table. We have stocked up the freezer so it is easy enough to pop something in the oven. As I said in my last post, it's only really the first few months that are hard.

Alex had his 4 week MCHN appt today. She sort of implied that he is having too much formula as he has gained almost 400g in a week! I pretty much demand feed and he has approx 150mls each feed. I don't think he is greedy but there's no way I am going to cut it back and have an unsettled hungry baby on my hands!!
DS was a guts for the first year and then he settled down and now he is one of the smallest in our mothers group.

muminwaiting

22-01-2009, 20:54

Hello Ladies,

Ok I'm back and feeling alot better....sorry about yesterday, I was so emotional and just plain exhausted :o. I think it just hit me that DH was back at work after having a month off and I was all on my own, and I didn't think I could do it.

We had a good night last night and today has been good as well, Holly has been feeding on formula and has been sleeping 4-5hrs between feeds, the only downer we have is the reflux, today it was really bad and she has been vomitting alot after a feed, it even comes out her nose. I rang our local family planning clinic for some advice and an appointment, I thought maybe I am not holding Holly correctly when feeding her, they haven't called me back yet. But tonight I picked Dh up from work to go grocery shopping and I went to the chemist and spoke to a lovely lady there who has 5 kids, and I told her about the formulas I had tried and that I was reluctant to put Holly back onto the thickend formula for reflux because of the constipation, and she recommended I buy just the thickener,and add it to her normal formula. She also recommended a new bottle, I think sometimes half the trouble I have is Holly drinks to fast even thought I have the new born teats, the milk seems to flow fast and I can see her mouth is full, the bottle she recommended is a Peristaltic Nipple bottle made by a company called pidgeon, it slows the feeding down to 10-15mins. I have just used it for her last feed and it took her 20mins to drink the 150mls, she wasn't able to guts it down and she hasn't vomited one drop (touch wood)...I only added one scoop of the thickener to see how she went and it seems to have worked. I am so happy :smiliedance::smiliedance:. I am still pumping but I am not worried if I have a EBM feed or not. Does anyone know how you stop your milk coming???

Any news on Tracey???????? I love hearing a new bubba has arrived.

M2M - I agree the early evenings are hectic, I seem to make the decsion to start dinner and Holly will wake up, or like you I have managed to make dinner and as soon as we sit down she wakes and I eat mine cold hrs later.

Shell I think it is the heat sending us all a little crazy and out of sorts...it sucks all of the energy we have out of us. Sorry about Theo, Holly is my first so I can not give you any advice, hopefully one of the other mums can help you out..

Jelly Baby - How often are you feeding?..I think three hrs is a good gap to start with. I pesonally have given Holly a dummy, she doesn't want it all the time and she will spit it out or refuse it. I generally use it only at night or early morning when I am changing her nappy and she starts to cry or when I am trying to get her bottle ready. I have used it to help calm her down after a crying fit. I don't see anything wrong with a dummy whilst they are babies, I don't agree with a 2yr old sucking on one.

Dh has just made me a cuppa and I have a lamington calling my name...

Have a great night everyone

BellyFruit

23-01-2009, 00:52

:wave: ladies, well I'm finally here!

Chace is doing great, had him on Saturday morning and left hospital on Monday afternoon. With no medical issues and good feeding established (my milk came in really early apparently) I just wanted to be at home with DH and the twins...

Just a quick question about pain after birth: I have just noticed I've been getting period like cramps on my right hand side - it's quite uncomfortable and I havent had any pain or discomfort in that area for several days - is it usual for it to come back? Have also had some back pain too (I feel a bit jipped about that - I avoided an epi this time becuase I had such bad back pain last time, and what's this? back pain anyway :() is this normal?

I'm glad that Chace is breast feeding well, had no attachment issues or anything and just trying to establish a bit of a routine atm... he has a bit of a red bum too because he poos so often (almost every nappy) I change it as soon as he does it (which means we're currently going through about 10-12 nappies a day) but its still red... am applying lots of pawpaw cream atm... we'll see how we go...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand, has anyone else had a problem with the newborn huggies? Chace constantly wakes up all wet up his back - almost every nappy... couldnt put my finger on it initially but my SIL also has this problem with her DD... I'm soooo annoyed about it because it's waking him up in between night feeds and have to change him and all his bedding - it's tiresome!

I'm hoping to be on here more now ... I'm lucky, I have DH at home full time for a few weeks until his uni starts again, and the twins go back to school very soon... I have a lot of support and am feeling good atm though I admit getting out of the house even with just Chace is tiring...

Glad to be here guys, look forward to chatting some more...

TMD x :flowerz:

PS: Tracy is going well - is in good spirits and her and Rich are just smitten with little Jayden - her DS1 Ben was coming in to see his new baby brother today and she was very excited about that. She was hoping to go home tomorrow, I told her not to be crazy and over do it as she needed time to recover after her CS but she said she was feeling good and would see how she went tomorrow...

oh, must change my ticker...

GoneBatty

23-01-2009, 08:39

MIW glad to hear your feeling better about it all :yes: i have 2 different bottle types for Alyssa and have noticed one of them comes out a bit fast for her coz she always spills it and you can hear her gulping trying to swallow it all so when i use those bottles i hold her more upright to feed lol

TMD Good to hear from you sounds like your doing well. My after birth pains seemed to be a bit worse around days 3-7 then they were gone, i just got some strong pain killers from the chemist and they helped me a bit but other than that i cant help sorry!

AFM Im feeling a bit scared/nervous at the moment DP is at work and i HAVE to go out to the shops later with both kids on my own! Thats a scary thought. id love to put it off until 5pm when i take DS to his dads for the weekend and then just go to the shops with Alyssa but theres things i need before this arvo. bugger! oh well has to be done and once the 1st time is out of the way it will only be better the next times hey. :laughing: Im even doing ALL the housework just to procrastinate for even longer :no: silly me oh well best be off wish me luck!

muminwaiting

23-01-2009, 10:13

Hi Ladies,

TMD - Welcome Welcome, We are all nearly finally in here.:smiliedance:Re Huggies, I had the same problem, my mum & dad gave me a year supply of nappies for my baby shower and I found that one lot of Huggies newborns was smaller than another packet, I thought I was going nuts until I opened up the third packet and compared the sizes and one is smaller, very strange :confused: The ones I found that leaked are the ones that have small pictures of pooh and his friends, the ones that appear a little bigger and haven't leaked just have one larger picture of pooh on the front...Which ones have you got?....My mum also brought by mistake a packet of the Woolworths name brand ones, they are the same colour packet as the Huggies, and they are hopeless. I can't help with the back pain as I had the epi...cramps, I had them on and off whilst I was bleeding, it has only just finally stopped...

GB - Your a brave women :laughing: Only kidding I'm sure you will be fine...You can come and do my housework if you really need the excuse not to go...:D

US - We are on a a roll here, Holly is doing so well with her feeding and sleeping now, although she has been awake since her last feed at 8.30, theres only so many times I can sing twinkle twinkle little star, I really need to brush up on my songs:laughing:. It is going to be another stinking hot day here, I am so over this heat!!.

GoneBatty

23-01-2009, 10:42

im back and i survived lol i only got the essentials at the supermarket but i managed haha DS was good for me and stayed next to me and the car and didnt move when i said to stay still, and i was lucky enough tho get one of those trolleys with the infant capsule bit and the toddler seat in them :yelclap:

I did WANT to go and have a look in somewhere like target or kmart but they dont have those sorta trolleys so woulda meant DD being in the pram and DS walking and i dont know how long he woulda behaved and held onto the pram n not run away on me lol. oh well next time!

Might take him to the park a bit later for being a good boy :yes:

Oh and RE: huggies i havent had any probs at all with mine so far :fingerscrossed:

BellyFruit

23-01-2009, 11:41

Yay for surviving the shops GB! :yelclap: Daunting isnt it, getting out of the house - it's just so much effort too!! The twins are nearly 6 so they don't run off but they're not used to walking with a pram so this is us at the shopping centre:

DS1 -- DS2 -- Me pushing pram -- DH with DS3 in his arms

all in one line across! will need to streamline a little bit! and damn those big groups of teenagers who don't get out of my way! :mad: (aw that was the first time I've written "DS3" - I love it!)

MIW: Thank you for the nappy tip - yes, the nappies that leak are the pooh bear ones with all the little prints over them :detective: - how interesting... I feel the need to write to huggies to demand an explanation - seriously, its that bad that today I'm going out to buy two dozen terry nappies to keep us going during the day because I'm sick of him wetting all up his back all the time... we have two dozen gorgeous itti bitti nappies but in size M so need to wait until Chace is 6kg before using them... didnt want to get a smaller size ...

Am having a go at making a baby sling today... wish me luck!!

TMD x :flowerz:

honeydew

23-01-2009, 12:45

Hello!

Welcome Angel Baby and Didi!!!

Didi- it sounds like things are going really well for you! I had to laugh at you pushing the empty pram and the baby being carried by daddy. Same thing happens here! We spent a small fortune (well it felt like it!) on a tandem pram but Layla HATES the pram and wants to be carried :rolleyes:

Shell- I hope you feel less tired today :hugs: How is Theo today?

MIW- don't apologise for having a vent here, that's what we're for!

Gone Batty- well done for braving the shops! I am VERY nervous for my first time with both, I think I will be putting it off for a few months yet :laughing: I'm lucky that Mason goes to daycare 2 days a week so I plan on doing my shopping and running around then.

Is anyone here using or used a nipple shield? I am using one but wondering if it is stopping Layla from getting enough milk because she is pulling off but still hungry. I am continually topping her up with formula which I really don't want to be doing. She does well with the first bit of milk but once it slows down she isn't really bothering or trying hard enough to suck well and get it :confused: Feeds are lasting up to 2 hours at a time on and off and in the end I give her a bottle :( I have tried so many times to get her attached without the shield but she's just not interested.

Nappies- I haven't found any dramas with the huggies so far (and we have the ones with the small print all over). Didi, we are using the small itti bittis and although they are a little big (photos on facebook if you want to see) they are doing the job for now. I am thinking of getting a few more smalls because she'll be in them for a little while yet and I only have 5 at the moment.

1stTimeMum09

23-01-2009, 14:39

Hello girls..

:wave: and welcome to the newbies :laughing:

Nappies-I am using the Huggies Newborn and I find they leak heaps but I been told because he is a boy they will leak more and I think I changed Ryley about 4 times the other night.

GoneBatty-I agree well done you did well..I am off on my own tomorrow and a little nervous especially as I am catching public transport and the train platforms are a little high so hopefully I be okay. Lol.

Dee-know what you mean by the teenagers I just push through stuff what they think. Lol.

:wave: to everyone else..

AFM-Things are well and Ryley is enjoying his food. Lol. Centrelink went well and I got my money today so off to the shops tomorrow to buy some things for me and him :D

Well hope you all are well.
Kirsten

epiphany

23-01-2009, 15:30

Hi everyone :wave:

Just got up from a quick power nap on the sofa. J had a very restless night last night & I ended up with about 2 hours of sleep the entire night. I'm completely knackered!

Had visit with maternal health yesterday for my 2 youngest kids (J had her 4 week check & my son had his 2 year check). J is a piglet. She's put on over a kilo since her last weigh 2 weeks ago (I think I must produce chocolate milk rather than normal breast milk). She also seems to have an umbilical hernia, so we need to keep an eye on it in case it doesn't resolve itself.

As for my son...he's only put on 110g since his last weigh 6 months ago & had dropped an entire percentile. Now - I'm not worried about this as he is *very* active *all freaking day* (so burns a lot of energy) & he'd only just started walking just before his last weigh - so hadn't lost all his baby fat (& he was a massive wee hefalump when he was younger) & he was also very ill for several months last year (at one point, he lost over a kg...which is a lot for a little person to loose!). But the health nurse seems vaguely concerned & wants him back in 3 months (normally wouldn't go back til he was 3 1/2) for a reweigh to check all is well. She also claimed he's short (he's spot on the 50th percentile).

As for me, she seemed to take the statement "I'm quite tired" to mean "I have raging postnatal depression that I'm completely in denial about." She kept going on & on & on & on about PND & that I should seek help if I needed to & gave me a fistful of info about it. I had PND with #1. So I know what it feels like. And I definately *don't* have it now. I'm just tired. You know...like virtually every mother of newborns. Oh...& I got told off for hula hooping 4 weeks after the c-section. But I've already worked out that was a bad idea as I'm *still* sore & it's been nearly a week after I did it. Ooops.

I can't believe J is now 5 weeks old! She's finally in the next size up for clothing (so I can deck her out in all those lovely Gymboree clothes I bought for her earlier in the year) & she's essentially too small for newborn nappies but I have a couple left that I want to use up. But it means I can pull out all the MCNs & use those now, as her legs won't be too small for the ones we have here (yay for not having to use disposables - having 2 kids in them meant we had to order another rubbish bin just to accomodate the waste. Yuck!). My friend also gave back my HugaBub sling that she'd borrowed, so I've been finding it much easier to get out & about with her (with J - not the friend..lol). She also falls straight to sleep whenever I put her in it. Very handy for when I want to do housework & she doesn't want to sleep :)

Other than that, it's been pretty uneventful. I'm dreading when school starts - my eldest has been a huge help & when she goes back to school, I'm going to have to do it all by myself. Eeek! I've bought a Montessori activity book that I'm hoping to work through with my son (he has a learning style & personality that seems quite compatable with Montessori education, so I want to use it with him but we have no preschool in our area). I also bought a book that has weekly activities for kids from birth to 5 years old that are age-appropriate & help develop things like gross motor skills, awareness of self & others, memory, observation, following directions, etc...through to literacy, numeracy, telling time, etc. again, I want to do these with my son but it'll also have stuff in it that I can do with J. So yay for a wee bit of structured play!

Sigh...there's just been a series of loud bangs coming from upstairs. I suspect the kids are moving things they shouldn't be moving. I'd better go...hope everyone is well :)

Cordelia

23-01-2009, 15:45

Gosh, huge admiration from me to the mum's out and about with 2 kids!!! I've only been out with DH and 2 kids so we have a kid each. Dreading grocery shopping. I'll have to have DD in toddler seat and DS in sling I guess. but how do I pick DD up and put her in the toddler seatwitha sling on. Ohhhhh... too much thinking. it's making my head hurt!!!

nipple shield - i use one and used one for 8 months with DD... just make sure you express a few times during the day to keep your supply up. I've noticed that Daniel has a LOT of burping and gas from hte other end!! I was wondering whether that's because he's gulping a lot of air frmo the nipple shield.

Dummy - I guess you just do what you gotta do!! Daniel has one when he's unsettled... not a lot at this stage. I'd like to keep it to sleep times. We got rid of DD's at 8 months which was a good time.

muminwaiting - your milk supply will disappaer within a few weeks usually? just express enough for comfort to avoid engorgement/yucky mastitis.

huggies nappies - we find they're the only nappy that doens't leak. we got given a heap of babylove newborns and EVERY time they've leaked around the legs. huggives have never leaked *touch wood*

epiphany - your CHN sounds like a paranoid crazy woman. 50th percentile isn't short!! that means he's dead on average!!!! altho i have to agree that the hula hooping may have been a bad choice!!! :laughing: I hope you get a better night's sleep tonight.

Us - feeding & sleeping well! DH goes back to work on Tuesday - nooooooo!!!!!!! we had a great morning... got the ferry across to the big ferris wheel on the Perth foreshore. Very pricey but DD loved it. I felt bad that DH has had 3.5 weeks of holidays and hasn't actually done anything very exciting!!!

ok better go grab a nap

Shell31

23-01-2009, 18:11

Hi Everyone,

I've had a great day today. I'm still tired but I got out & about today, just Miss Daisy & I. We had a little girly shopping time ;) I bought a book for myself, a new pair of Havaiana thongs for Aaron, a new thomas train for Theo & a book from the Thomas range called "DAISY" how cuts is that. A book with his sisters name lol. Theo was unsettled again at daycare today but I'm sure that will settle down.
Aaron has gone to a mates place this afternoon / night to watch the cricket & have a few drinkies so my Mum & stepdad came over to pick Theo up from daycare & then help out with bathing etc. I still can't lift him on my own & the bath time terrors are still continuing :confused: I honestly didnt want any arguments with dinner on my first night with just Theo & Daisy so I'm ashamed to say Theo had yoghurt & banana for dinner with the desired result though of ZERO tears :o
All in all a great day. Daisy didn't get anything from the shops as honestly I have more then enough clothes for her. Its ridiculous what we have. My best friend in Melbourne sent up 2 garbage bags full of clothes for her. All look brand new. Cost her $30 to send it though :eek:

She is asleep in her bouncer at the moment, Theo is having abit of quiet time watching some tv while I type this then I'm going to snuggle my boy and relax.. Uh oh he is now zooming around the house on his dune buggy 3 wheeler bike.. lord !!!

Cordelia - Wish I could see Perth. I've never been & hear it is absolutely beautiful. Don't want the temps you're having though.

Epiphany - I agree with Cordelia. Your CHN sounds paranoid. I also suffered PND with DS number 2 in the middle of a marriage break up & everytime I admit that to someone they look at me like Im a sure thing for a reoccurance. I didnt get it with Theo & I don't feel at all like that now. I guess now I have a supportive husband who does so much to help me. I'm also older, more confident & patient. Think that helps too. Anyways just annoys me the stigma attached to PND sometimes with health professionals.

1stTimeMum - WOO HOO about Centrelink. So glad you got that sorted. I had Mum post my forms off last week & havent heard anything yet. I expect them to call or write back saying something was missed or some drama has happened & they'll need more inforor something. Glad Riley is doing well too. Good luck on the public transport tomorrow.

MummytoMason - I've never used nipple shields so can't really help with that. How have you enjoyed your days with just Layla whilst Mason is in daycare? Theo goes 2 days a week also. Thurs & Fridays & its been really nice to be able to focus on her completely without being concerned about showing her too much attention whilst Theo is around.

TwinMumDee - lol @ you writing to Huggies. I would. You'll probably get a heap of freebies off them for your efforts. How are the twins with Chase? Do they adore him?

Oh Dear I was on such a personals roll & now theo is over here with his blankie on his shoulder saying "up, up" I guess he's getting tired as its nearly his bedtime. Sorry I didnt get to address everyone. Will have another go tomorrow.

Rachelle x

*Sparkles*

23-01-2009, 21:45

We have started Alex on some infant gaviscon. I spoke to the MCHN yesterday about the power spews and the fact that Alex is always squirming after a feed and very unsettled. She thinks it could be reflux. He has had the gaviscon in his last couple of bottles and has been a lot more settled today :smiliedance: so let's hope it lasts.

Hope everyone else is doing well, I'll catch up properly tomorrow as it's late and I'm about to put bubs down for the night.

BellyFruit

23-01-2009, 22:32

oh nooo... am sitting here in front of the computer and just want to burst into tears... it's day 6 for me - is this my belated baby blues? Twins are in bed, Chace is asleep (for now) DH is at work and wont be home until about 2:30am (I'll prob be up :rolleyes:) ... just feel really bummed out... sigh... oh... Chace is awake... (god, not to be a name nazi or anything, but pls note its CHACE not CHASE...) er, sorry, we ummed and aahed about the spelling for ages and I know it's not the usual spelling and serves us right for making it a bit different, but just thought I'd mention it... god i'm a grumpy bum atm sorry... here's everyone asking about how is he going, and I'm having a sook about spelling...

Shell: the twins arent actually that fussed with Chace, I dont know why, they just dont seem to be showing much interest, they just hang out with each other and play all day - no hassling for cuddles or jealousy or anything...

brb, baby hungry...

BellyFruit

23-01-2009, 23:17

ok I'm back... he only fed for about 15 mins and is now back asleep... still trying to get some sort of routine happening... just feeding him on demand really atm... will figure out something eventually!

Well, just looking at him made me feel a lot better than I was before... he's such a sweety and I just love him to death... aw... sniff...

Hels: bummer about the reflux, though good that you might have a solution now...

Shell31: re lazy dinner... man, some nights when DH is at work and I'm very tired, the twins get weetbix and banana for dinner! they love it of course and I figure that it's not unhealthy and its way better that they have a stress free mummy than a frazzled one that grumps about all night and yells for no reason because she's so tired... I am going to email Huggies because we were at the shops today and Chace was all wet up his back TWICE in two hours :banghead: - stupid nappies...

He seems to have a bit sensitive skin unfortunately... his little bum is very red as he poos a lot and although I change him as soon as he poos (i dont even wait just in case there's more to come) it's still red... He squeals when i wipe it and put on paw paw cream and zinc and castor oil ointment poor baby... Oh, and I got the terry nappies today thinking I was a legend and would solve my nappy problem, unfortunately I couldnt find any decent plastic pants (anyone???) and the ones I got were a bit too big, but an hour in the terry and I changed him (it was a test run) and the insides of his little legs were already starting to get all red and aggravated... sooo... looks like he's got sensitive skin... dont know what to do to help that, I can combat it when it's sore but is there anyway to help his skin toughen up a bit? Is it just that he's still new and it might get better over time?? I dont know! I bathe him with Ego QV oil in the bath, and put lotion on him every day... dunno...

Cords: how much is the ferris wheel? I want to take the twins on it too...

Epiphany: pffft to the health nurse re PND.. .you know how you feel inside... Also, how is the hugabub sling? I want to get one for DH or was thinking of making one from some muslin, what do you reckon?

1sttimemum: poo for the leaky nappies, i'll keep you posted how I go with huggies... usually they're very customer friendly...

Haylie: oh I put the small itti bitti on Chace today as it's the only small one we have, I ordered all mediums (26!!) and it fit soooo nicely and is just lovely and literally as soon as he had his bum in it he pooed :rolleyes: so I had to take it straight off... it fit very very well... I'm tempted to buy some more, but DH would flip as we agreed to start at M because they'd fit for longer than just 4-6 months - chace isnt too tiny so hopefully will be up to 6kg soon.. he's already 100g over his birth weight which is good... midwife said my milk must have come in early because he only lost like 70g before we left hospital!

Well, I prob should get a bit of sleep... its just that I hate being woken up when i'm down, but i don't know when Chace will wake next sometimes he goes for an hour and soemtimes he's asleep for nearly 5 hours! sigh... i'd like to just veg out on the couch for a bit, but just feeling a bit lonely, tired and blue... dont want to go to my bed by myself just yet... sigh...

This darling little baby has absolutely brought DH and I closer than ever before... the labour was intense and DS3's birth was such a huge emotional ride for both of us, I can't describe it, just that I've never loved DH more that he was there for me every step of the way... he didnt leave my side for one minute from 11pm to 8:06am the next morning...

sniff... bloody hormones...

TMD x :flowerz:

epiphany

24-01-2009, 00:29

Big hugs, TMD. :hugs:

I think it's normal to feel down early on & not necessarily on Day 3 (I never get "Day 3 blues"...more like at the end of the 1st week or just after). And lack of sleep will make you grumpy (heck, I'm *always* grumpy! lol). Look after yourself, won't you hun :flowerz:

As for red bum & nappies...J has quite a problem with commercial baby wipes (they were making her bum bleed). Maybe Chace is the same? I've started using the reusable wipes I used with my son (as he had the same problem as well), so fingers crossed we've solved the problem. I just bought a length of flannelette from Spotlight, cut it into squares & overlocked 2 or 3 together to make a nice padded wipe. Some I use as wet wipes & some I use as dry wipes to dry her bum afterwards.

As for nappies...can't help with overpants as we used MCNs, not the terry squares. But you should be able to find PUL or minky covers rather than plastic ones (try looking at online stores) - they'll breath better than plastic & won't cause a rash like the plastic can do. My son has sensitive skin & only started developing a problem with the MCNs once he was older & we got an ammonia buildup in the nappies (blimmin boy wee...sigh). We never had a problem when he was a newborn. Is he getting red in the skin creases or actually down his legs? Maybe the nappy doesn't fit properly or isn't absorbant enough? Or he's reacting to the fabric? (just trying to think of some possible causes). It does seem odd he reacted so quickly.

Re hugabub...I *love* it. It takes a wee bit of practise to work out how to tie it properly but once you get the hang of it, it's great. And *so* comfy...I can't wear most front/backpacks because they hurt my back & shoulders but the hugabub is really comfy & still very supportive of bub...& I love that I can tie it in such a way as to support baby's head & neck (& even breastfeed while walking round if I want to!). They're pretty expensive new, though - maybe look for a 2nd hand one? I don't know if muslin would have enough stretch in it. The hugabubs are made out of cotton that has a wee bit of stretch to it...which you need to support baby. Muslin might not be supportive/stretchy enough...not sure.

Shell31

24-01-2009, 07:35

Sorry I spelt Chace's name wrong :no: Didnt mean to upset you TMD. :hugs:

mitty

24-01-2009, 12:58

MummaFug

24-01-2009, 13:54

:wave: everyone

Just a quicky from me as I've sent the folks to the store for some shopping (saves me going) and DS is pretending to eat lunch and DD is sitting besides me - quite happily for now...

TMD - :hugs: Yep .... was Day 6 or 7 for me too. It all just got a bit much for me when I got home and realized I had 2 kids so couldnt rest when the little un did...
Your hubby must be VERY proud of you and it sounds like you have a great relationship :)

Nappies - I use pampers .. Did use imported HUggies with DS at one point but had the same problem of them leaking so went back to pampers..

Sleeping - DD has been SO SO SO much better than DS was. So am quite happy (touch wood)

Went and had some more tests done yesterday and the news is good :smiliedance: Looks like Ashleigh will have to take 1/4 tablet a day until 3 years and then :fingerscrossed: she will grow out of her Congenital Hypothyroidism and wont need any more tabs....we were HUGELY relieved..

Sorry for lack of personals but will be back later.. Tis chinese new year and DH has 1 week off so will get some time to myself (I hope)

muminwaiting

24-01-2009, 14:46

We have started Alex on some infant gaviscon. I spoke to the MCHN yesterday about the power spews and the fact that Alex is always squirming after a feed and very unsettled. She thinks it could be reflux. He has had the gaviscon in his last couple of bottles and has been a lot more settled today :smiliedance: so let's hope it lasts.

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Holly is on Mylanta for the reflux, I give it to her 15mins before a feed, she takes it straight off the baby spoon, I think she likes the coldness of it, she should be used to it I drank a gallon of the stuff when I was PG.:D

muminwaiting

24-01-2009, 15:18

Can I join in here?:fingerscrossed:

I had a gorgeous boy on the 6th of January. We named him Aiden Cooper. He was 3975g and 54cm long. I'm formula feeding an almost hungry baby who is power spewing and very unsettled and wriggling about after I feed him and lie him straight down(mainly at night).
Im starting to feel pretty lonely. I had a caesarean with Aiden and am sick of not being able to do anything or drive. Hubby went back to work 6 days after I got out of hospital and he is working 10hour days with extra travelling time and I feel like we are passing neighbours cos he is so busy doing the extra stuff like cleaning. cooking, washing etc that I can't do.

I am so in need of some adult conversation it isn't funny.

Hi Mitty :wave: Welcome and congratulations...
Re: Power spewing, I have the same problem, Dr has us on mylanta and he also advised me not to lay Holly down for at least 30mins after a feed, I know its hard to do especially at 3am when all you want to do is crawl back into bed, but it has helped us. Also advised me to feed her a little more upright and I also found a great brand of bottles made by pigeon, they have a slower teat as I had noticed that Holly was a little piglet and was drinking to fast.
I know what you mean about needing adult conversation, I practically pounce on DH when he walks in the door poor guy has been on the phone all day at work and the last thing he wants is a wife with 20 questions about his day :D.

TMD - :hugs: It's ok to have a down day, nothing wrong with it...we have all been on here I think at some stage with a little bit of the blues, a new baby is hard work especially for the mums who already have kids, I don't know how you ladies do it you are all legends to me.:yes: Re sore bum, Holly had thrush in her mouth that then gave her a sore bum, might be worth taking a look at, sudacrem works for us. Holly also looks like she will take after me I can't use normal soap and she came out in a rash when I used johnsons baby wash on her, I also can't use scented wipes on her.

Fugly - YEAH!!!! excellent news, what a relief for you.:smiliedance:

epiphany- I brought a baby sling and Holly HATES it she screams bl**dy blue murder as soon as I put her in it, I brought the budget baby carrier from target this week (like a bjorn) and I used it for the first time today and Holly went to sleep in it, so its a winner. I really liked the sling and we got a pink (my fav colour) one I am really bummed she wont use it...it does convert to a sit up position so I will give it another go when she gets a little bigger.

Sorry to anyone I missed....

epiphany

24-01-2009, 18:31

epiphany- I brought a baby sling and Holly HATES it she screams bl**dy blue murder as soon as I put her in it, I brought the budget baby carrier from target this week (like a bjorn) and I used it for the first time today and Holly went to sleep in it, so its a winner. I really liked the sling and we got a pink (my fav colour) one I am really bummed she wont use it...it does convert to a sit up position so I will give it another go when she gets a little bigger.

That's another reason I like the hugabubs...they carry baby upright unlike a true sling (J hates being on her back too). Bummer Holly didn't like the sling, though. But maybe she'll be better once she's a wee bit older & can sit upright in it.

Hi Mitty! :wave: Congrats on your wee man. How is your scar healing? Life after a newborn & a c-section & all that stuff does get better...promise. But it is a bit of a drag while you're waiting to heal & trying to deal with all the fun of a newborn. It sounds as if Aiden might be a bit windy, maybe?...both J & my son were the same (wriggly & unsettled after a feed & didn't like to lie down) & were *very* difficult to wind. Infacol was a lifesaver for me with my son.

Fugly...yay for the good news on Ashleigh. :fingerscrossed: she'll grow out of it!

tracynben

24-01-2009, 21:00

hi everyone
i can finally join u all.
Came home this morning thank god, i hate being in hospital, its so boring, and i hate the midwifes keep checkin on u all the time.

Jayden doing great at the mo, but its early days, hes sleepin and eating great today, but we will see how things go.
My milk has come throu today, and my boobs are massive now hehe, and they are hard so i better go give him another feed soon, hes been asleep since 3,15pm.

No time for personals, too many to catch up on, but im sure ill catch up to u all soon.

Im feelin quite tired and sore at the mo, for those of u who had sections, what pain relief did use, the hospital hasnt given me anything, so i have just been havin paracetmol and pendine.

Ill be glad to get my stitches and staples out, they make my stomach feel so tight. I hate wobblin around feelin helpless not being able to do anything, dp has been great doin everythin, i thnk he now finally realises how hard it is bein a household mum.

I dunno if i said about weight n stuff, he weighed 3.99kg, was 52 cm long, and 32 head.

Just fed him him, was bout to change nappy, and then he weed and pooed everywhere, so had to bath him, then he was sick, arghhhhh on his clean clothes.

As for the birth, well i went into hospital as planned on tues evenin 8pm, for thee scheduled section weds morning. I had been having mild contractions all day but nothing regular so didnt think too much of it.
At about 9pm they started regualr and gettin stronger, so they monitored me for a while, an they were 5 mins apart, and i was 1-2cm dilated.
After 5 hours they were gettin much stronger and i needed pain relief, rich was bloody alseep on the chair while i wsa breathin my way through them.
they give me some pethedine then took me up to the labour ward.
After a few hours i was given some more pethedine and had an epidural.
By11am the next mring my doctor checked me and i was 5-6 cm and he was convinced i was gonna get my VBAC i was stoked, as long as i progressed to 10cm by 3pm.
He came back at 3 i had got to 9, but there was a tiny bit of my cervix that wouldnt budge, he tried really hard but couldnt move it, the surgeon also did an internal and they put it down to my spine bones sticking out.
18 hours had gone by now, and they made the decision for the section, but i would have to wait til 4.30pm as the surgeon had other surgery first.
Even after another 2 painful hours i was still exactly the same. The last hour was excuriatin, even the pain relief didnt make a difference, him pushin on my bones for so long was the worse pain i think ill ever feel in my life, and when they wheeled me to the surgery that made it much worse and i was screamin in pain. Then i had to wait another 10 mins for the anaethistist.
Then at 5pm he was born, he also tried comin out with his hand first, that with the spine bones made my VBAC impossible, BUT im so happy i got to try and went into labour before my section.
Even after all the pain it was still worth it, cos he is just so perfect.
I will post pics soon, need to rest, my bloody legs and ankles are like tree trunks arghhhh.

tracy xxxxxxxx

k2ma

24-01-2009, 22:23

Wow - we are almost all here. I have been so busy the last two weeks that this is the first chance I have had to drop in! Apologies in advance as I have only read the last page or two...

Congratulations to all the January Mummies. :D Fantastic work.

Was looking briefly at the posts about carriers. I have an ergo with newborn insert which works wonderfully for us. Lucas is not a lie on your back baby. Mind you DS2 was like that too. SO the ergo works really well. I find it easy to manage because you can feed them in it while you walk about.

I have put a double stroller on lay by at target though as I am sure there will be days where I would rather not have one child on my back / front (makes going to the loo a bit too acrobatic!)

My parents are here for a couple of weeks which is nice. Huge help with the older two, don't think I would be coping quite as well without it...we have even managed to get to the aquarium today! Am so proud - three kids under 4 and two senior citizens and me...was great fun. However, it is now 9.30pm and we are just about to have our tea...so not completely organized yet!

DH is home tomorrow and monday so we might try one more excursion with all of us! Wish us luck:o:p

I hope everyone is well and enjoying their new little bundles.

epiphany

25-01-2009, 00:01

for those of u who had sections, what pain relief did use, the hospital hasnt given me anything, so i have just been havin paracetmol and pendine.

My pain was pretty much under control by the time I went home (had weaned off the pain meds before I left) but I did pop a few Voltaren to cope with a nagging pain I was getting on one side. Helped heaps. I think I may have also take some Panadeine during the first couple of days but tried to stay off it as much as possible because it causes constipation (which is the last thing you need after a c-section!). Hope you're feeling better soon & yay on getting to go into labour (much better for baby) & getting to 9cm! A great achievement :yelclap:

k2ma...good luck for your trip out & make lots of use of your parents while they're here :D

honeydew

25-01-2009, 10:57

Hi girls!

Fugs- GREAT news about Ashleigh!! :yelclap: I am so happy to hear that.

Mitty- welcome! I'm sorry to hear you are having a rough time of things. I had a c/s too (my DD was born 2 days after your son) and I am finding it hard to be stuck at home unless someone drives me somewhere. It will get easier though :hugs: Stick around in here because these girls are lovely!

Didi- gosh I hope I didn't spell Chace's name wrong on your facebook page :o I know how annoying it is, we are already getting Layla's name spelt wrong and the whole reason we went with that spelling was so people DIDN'T get it wrong!! (was going to be Laila or Lailah originally). Its completely normal to feel so down and it doesn't always have to be on day 3. For me day 5 was a shocker, especially because my milk had completely dried up overnight and I was a complete mess. I was sobbing all over my ob and the midwives (how embarrassing!). I hope you are feeling better today :hugs:

Red Bums- I have found Layla is ALWAYS red on her private parts. I am slathering her in sudocrem every nappy change to protect her skin. I'm also not using powder but I have been using the scented wipes. Might need to invest in some cloth wipes I think.

Welcome back Tracy! I am taking panadol & brufen (sp?) for pain relief. Have been pretty good up till now but in a lot of pain today.

Bub awake BBL :wave:

tracynben

25-01-2009, 14:16

Thinhs havent been good at the mo, first nite home was a total nightmare and today is even worse.
BUT my midwife assured me its all completely normal.
I have been an emotional cryin wreck some of the time wondering how im gonna deal with all this.
Jayden just wanted to feed feed feed all nite and wouldnt settle to sleep.
Eventually at 3am rich brought him in bed with us cos we were exhausted.
I was hungry so got something to eat, was just settled in bed then ben woke up screamin, so i went to see to him, he totally refused to go back to sleep, in the end rich slept with ben and i slept with jayden, we prob got a couple of hours sleep all nite.
Unfortunately ben is playin up major time, ive put him down for a nap but hes not going to sleep and is playin with toys and has totally decked his room, but he can stay in there for an hour an half, if he doesnt sleep then he will have to go bed early.
Midwife said that its completley normal for toddlers to be this way, and may last 2-4 weeks, arghhhhhhh i dunno if i can cope that long like this.
She also said its completley normal for babies in the first few days to cluster feed, be hard to settle and get lots of belly ache, so thats good to know, cos i dont remember ben being like this.

Are any of u second time mums having problems with toddlers and bf and stuff, and no sleep, im so exhausted already i just feel like givin up on everything, luckily ben in childcare 2 days a week.

tracy xxxxx

tracynben

25-01-2009, 15:09

heres a few pics finally of jayden, rest on facebook

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/tracynben/IMGP0080.jpg
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http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/tracynben/IMGP0091.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/tracynben/IMGP0093.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo31/tracynben/IMGP0096.jpg

tracy xxxxx

Cordelia

25-01-2009, 18:41

tracy - :hugs: sorry you're having a hard time of it.. don't forget it's only early days yet!! It will only get better :) DD has been extremely tantrummy so I know where you're coming from. (PS dont' mean to alarm you but my midwife said it could last 4 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) At least you can sort of forgive them as they are going thru a huge transition. Love your photos - what a lovely family!

fugly - that's awesome about ashleigh :)

slings - we love our bubba moe... baby lays in it so mightn't suit some. I went shopping the other day with the sling and pushed DD in the trolley. Still undecided on whether to get a double pram - bit concerned they're a bit large to fit thru doorways etc???

pain relief for c-sections - i just had panadol when I got home and voltaren. I really felt it when I didn't take it so keep it up. I ended up really hurting my stomach muscles to the point of having to call the hospital.. they said "take panadol" and I was like "WTH DO YOU REALISE HOW MUCH PAIN I'M IN" but i took panadol and it improved :)

US - daniel has a feed at around 4:00am and has been really unsettled afterwards. He has gone around 5 hours since his last feed so I'm wondering if he's gulping too much. he doesnt cry - he just wnot sleep and grunts and struggles. any suggestions? do you think it's reflux? he only does it for this one feed.... so frustrating when you just want a few more hours sleep before DD wakes up.

missmum05

25-01-2009, 19:27

Hey Girls

Yay I can finally join you girls now:)
I am home from hospital after my cs on wed
only stayed 3 nights as I didnt like being in there Lol
Imogen has been amazing such an angel so far sleeping breastfeeding and all :p
I am not coping to well with my pain tho from the cs, I am hurting alot! I can only walk from the lounge to the computer chair and back..thats it...I am in so much pain..... when does the pain ease off?
My scar hurts so much and stings when i walk and I am only taking panadol, is it normal to be this bad still after 5 days?

GoneBatty

25-01-2009, 20:33

Hey all just a quick one.

Welcome in to the new mums and congrats to u all!

Tracy sorry ur having a hard time its not easy just gotta battle through DS is 3 1/2 and has become extremely agro in the last 2 weeks it really is driving me "batty" lol he is fine with his sister and loves her and helping me but he is just acting up so much and i hate to say it but the 3 nights a fortnight he goes to his dads place is a VERY welcome break for me! i cant help with the BF thing soz it didnt work out for us, oh and good to hear Rich has been helping you out! sounds like u need it Take Care!

Fugs good to hear some positive news about Ashleigh! how r u coping in that cold weather!?!

i better head off its getting late and have to be up and out of the house early we are taking DS fishing for the first time with DP's parents! :fingerscrossed: he behaves for that!

Night all xx

honeydew

25-01-2009, 21:37

Cordelia- its so frustrating when the one feed that they wont settle afterwards is the early morning one when you are desperate for a few more hours sleep! Layla's seems to be her bedtime feed and I am usually so exhausted and just want to get to bed but I am taking up to 2 hours to settle her :sleeping: Hopefully Daniel will stretch that feed out to a little later each morning until eventually its around the time your DD gets up anyway.

Tracy- sorry to hear you are having a rough time of things :hugs: Bens daycare days will be a godsend because you will be able to just sleep when Jayden sleeps and not have to worry about anything else. I am so glad we started Mason 2 days this year, last year he was only going 1. I am finding it hard when DH is at work and I am by myself with both kids and having to deal with feeding Layla which can take hours, changing 2 sets of nappies, keeping Mason out of danger etc. But it WILL get easier each day and I keep telling myself that this bit is the hard bit but it wont last long. I LOVE the pics of Jayden, he is so adorable. And so much hair!! Love it :D

Welcome Missmum! I have to say I love both your girls names, they 'match' and look gorgeous written together. As for your cs, the pain should get better each day but if it doesn't see your Dr. I found by day 5 I was moving around quite easily but everyone is different so make sure you don't overdo it until you are more comfortable.

I know there was more I was going to reply to earlier before I got interupted by a crying bub so sorry if I missed anything important.... my brain is still mush.

We are going well, my mum has been here this weekend helping out and cooking meals etc. But she has gone now :hissy: DH has 4 days off starting tomorrow which will be good, I'd really like to just focus on the breastfeeding while he's at home to care for Mason. We are still using the formula, it feels like we're going backwards :( But I'm not giving up and will keep at it and hope that eventually things will fall into place as far as her sucking and attachment goes and we can ditch the formula all together at some stage in the future. And in the meantime I'm just trying to console myself with the fact that at least she is getting SOME breastmilk and I'm still getting the experience of breastfeeding which I never had last time...

I hope all bubs are being good and you are all getting plenty of sleep :hugs:

muminwaiting

26-01-2009, 05:21

[quote=Cordelia;3446776
US - daniel has a feed at around 4:00am and has been really unsettled afterwards. He has gone around 5 hours since his last feed so I'm wondering if he's gulping too much. he doesnt cry - he just wnot sleep and grunts and struggles. any suggestions? do you think it's reflux? he only does it for this one feed.... so frustrating when you just want a few more hours sleep before DD wakes up.[/quote]

Holly does this when she still has some wind or is constipated....I usuallly lay her on her back and rub her belly and tdo the leg raises for a little while or the trick that always works for us is to give her a bath it seems to help her and it makes her sleepy, although at 3am (which seems to be our witching hour) I am so tired and the last thing I want to be doing it giving her a bath.

US - Holly has slept tonight from 12 - 5.00am :smiliedance: she woke up in a good mood and is now asleep next to me in her rocker. We had a bit of a rough time earlier in the night she was constipated and after trying to go for hrs she finally went (warning TMI) and it was what I would consider a nearly normal poo, frightened her to death and left her a little shaken, but the relief on her face was priceless...

Well I am back off to bed, DH is taking me for lunch today to our fav restaurant, should be interesting I don't know how Holly will go, if it's like meal time at home she will wake up and start crying as soon as my meal hits the table.:D

Have a great day ladies.

Shell31

26-01-2009, 07:07

Very Tired Wave :wave:

Hi Everyone,

What a night last night.. Last 2 nights Daisy has been doing the same thing as your Daniel Cordelia. Waking for her 3 or 4am feed & not settling for an hour & a half. Up until now we've been blessed with no wind, no pain, no problems with feeding.. nothing so Im more then happy to deal with whatever comes our way. Last night however 3am feed went ok then she wouldnt settle, I tried the usual tricks, rubbing tum, bicycle legs, laying on her tummy etc Even though I knew she had pains ( I could hear her tummy ) She still wasnt screaming. Just unsettled & squeaky off & on so her pain was coming in waves. In the middle of it all I had to go & throw up :eek: & had waves of tummy cramps so I'm starting to wonder now if we both had some little tummy bug.

In any case she fed at 6.15am and couldnt keep her eyes open. DS woke up then so I'm up with him, Aaron is in bed trying to catch up on some sleep. We're going to tag it & I'll go lay down at 9 when he takes over DS duties. Just feeling really old to be doing this you know. I cope really well without sleep but last night I lost it. Aaron had Theo in the shower with him ( Bath terrors still continuing ) and afterwards we were all sitting on our bed while I tried to put Theo's nappy & pj's on & if he kicked me right on the c/s wound once he kicked me there 5 times. I told him not to kick mummy's tummy cause it was sore & he kept doing it..
In the end the nappy was half done up & I couldnt stand another kick to the stomach so I just upped & walked into my daughters bedroom, collapsed on her bed sobbing :(
I got over it pretty quickly but it just goes to show how 5 hours sleep in 3 stints isnt that good for the emotional well being lol

I'm not really up for personals so will leave that for tomorrow.
Just wanted to welcome the new mum's and mention that I suffered badly with pain after this c/s for much longer then I did with my other 2 c/s's. This one I was in pain & still taking endone up until day 11. Im still taking the odd panadol if I do too much like yesterday when I stupidly tried to garden. This c/s was very different & much more painful to recover from but everyone is different.

Love to you all

Rachelle xx

Oh & tracy thanks for posting some pics of you beautiful boy. I dont have facebook so miss out on seeing everyones babies if they only post pics on there. He is adorable.. So much hair.

mitty

26-01-2009, 09:18

Thank you for welcoming me ladies.

I seem to be really down at the moment and missing hubby so much. Doesn't help he has to work part of the long weekend and there is so much on and I can't get to any of it. How unaustralian am I?

Aiden is doing great....still power spewing but not as unsettled. Because I changed his formula---he was on SMA and I have now changed him over to heinz nurture. I know it isn't recommended at all and i have always stuck it out with my other two. I think the fact it is so heavy on his tummy didn't help. He had a bit of a chuck this morning at 4.00am --he nearly got it over the side of the bassinette.

I think he may have reflux but everytime I take him to the dr or talk to a CHN all I get is he is putting weight on ==means he is fine. I don't think they are taking me seriously. I don't mean that he chucks a little bit but power spews and lots of it.

Im doing the whole feeding upright which is in no way very comfortable for either of us. I try not lie him down for awhile on his back....but you know sleep calls.

I have a sling for him an upright one but he doesnt like it...my second one loved it and used to come shopping in it all the time.

My only other issue(oh it seems i have soo many) is the fact that I can't sleep. I get the kids all down for an afternoon nap but I just can't seem to get to sleep. Even at 4am this morning I had so much trouble unwinding.

PAINRELIEF- I was using nurofen plus--i thought my pain threshold was high but I was so very wrong. Aiden is 3 weeks on Tuesday and I have virtually no pain at all---sometimes some discomfort.

I can now even touch my scar-I was petrified of it getting infected but so far it is clean and looking pretty according to my third year nursing student hubby. He is so handy to have around. Cant wait for uni to start actually cos then his paid work drops back to one day a week and 3 mornings out of 7 I can have a little sleep in.

Who else has a 2.5 yr old who seems to be getting into everything? Turn your head for five seconds and he is in the kitchen, in the pantry, pulling stuff out of the linen cupboard. :crying:

Shell31

26-01-2009, 11:33

Hi Mitty.. The power spewing sounds abit full on. Almost out of the bassinette?? Good grief that's pretty big. I'm not much help with that as Daisy isn't really a spewy baby & I'm breastfeeding so am not really sure about the formula either. I hope you find a solution for you & Aiden soon though. It must be so frustrating.

My 20 month old is into everything. He fkind of fell on Daisy yesterday !!!! Accidently but still I almost had a hearty.. My DH Is working all this long weekend too. He was on 6am-2pm both Sat & Sun & now he has the next 4 afternoons 2pm-10pm. My older daughters come home today YAY.. I've missed them so much this last 2 weeks they've been away. I'm not that worried about having 4 of them on my own this week as I know my girls were and still are a HUGE help with Theo so � expect they will help out with Daisy & him if need be. Its so good when they can shower themselves & get themselves drinks & just generally occupy themselves or Theo if i'm busy.

I'm feeling a little better for getting another hours sleep this morning. I woke up & DH had Daisy & Theo out in the lounge amusing them. I didnt even hear him come in & get her when she was fussy. Coma !!!!

MumInWaiting - YAY for the 5 hr stint. Can't complain about that hey. Hope you enjoy your lunch today & that Holly behaves atleast until you've eaten your meal.

MummyToMason - So nice you've had your Mum there to help out. My Mum lives nearby so she drops in every now & then & does whatever she can see that needs doing. Sometimes she does the washing, sometimes just washed up or sweeps the floor. Its a godsend. Goodluck with the b/f�ng while DH is home. I really hope it improves for you. You're doing so so well to have stuck with it with all the little setbacks you've had along the way. You should be so proud of yourself & definately pat yourself on the back for persistance. I bet you go on to be one of those mum's that is still b'f�ng when Layla is 2 ;)

GoneBatty - Fishing?? Awww I havent been fishing in aggggggggges. DH & I used to go all the time pre Theo days. How did your DS enjoy it?

Tracy - I almost cried when I read your post about your first night home.. (hubby has nicknamed me EMO short for emotional lol ) I can't imagine how I would have coped in those first few days out of hospital whilst in so much pain if Theo & Daisy had of needed me. I do hope things settle down for you soon. The pain WILL ease off,& Jaiden WILL settle with his feeding and Ben WILL settle down. Its a huge change for them & I've found it particularly hard to see Theo so out of whack with all this. Fingers crossed the sibling angel sends us some calming dust or something cause I'm knackered lol

Fugly - That's great news about Ashleigh. C�n't imagine how scary & stressful it has been with all the waiting & uncertainty. Are your parents driving you mad yet???

K well I'm off to have some lunch. Think DH Is making pies.. yummmmmm

Rachelle x

GoneBatty

26-01-2009, 11:45

Fishing was awful :(

DS kept misbehaving and trying to run to close to the edge near the water, wouldnt do what he was told etc was a nightmare im very glad to be home and that he is resting in his room now dont think i could deal with him carrying on much longer :(

Logan&KodasMumma

26-01-2009, 11:46

Hello Ladies,

*a very excited wave to you all*

Sorry I haven't been on much lately, I'm just enjoying being a mum again I find it very hard o put my little bubby down!!
He's so gorgeous! And may I say I have the most perfect baby ever, and I'm allowed to say that cuz I'm biased!!! Heheheh.....
He is an angel, yesterday we had a mummy day, he wouldn't have a bar of anyone else but me, which was a little exhausting but I still loved all the cuddles. Koda is feeding really well, we have a little spew every now and then but nothing major.

We're not having any problems with nappy rash or anything, and he's putting on weight steadily.

He wakes around 430 for a quick drink n then we have a snuggle until around 830 am.

Hope everyone is doing well!!

Muah!!

Shell31

26-01-2009, 13:18

GoneBatty - Aww thats bites.. Gosh it seems to be the same old thing with us ladies who have toddlers. We're all exhausted cause even when they are behaving they are just generally hard work & we're all so sleep deprived our patience isnt the best. :hugs: for you.

MumOf4 - Welcome back.. You sound smitten with your little lad. I'm abit the same with Daisy. I can't stop staring at her & I just wait for the next feed so I can see those little blue eyes staring up at me. I just went in to check on her and she is just so angelic and I can see she's put on so much weight.. So chubby around the cheeks now :D

Well i'm off for the afternoon to spend some time with my newly arrived home daughters :smiliedance:

1stTimeMum09

26-01-2009, 15:07

Hi girls..

Welcome Mitty..We don't bite and we all seem pretty nice..Lol.

So much to catch up on :laughing:

Red bums-sudocream is my favorite friend..

Huggies Nappies-Ryley is still leaking through them not sure if I should change them or he should go to a bigger size :confused:

Slings-I am using a jazsling and found it great..

GoneBatty-:hugs: you poor thing..

MIW-that's great about the 5 hour sleep stint..

Shell-hope your feeling better soon..

Tracy- :hugs: your not alone I been finding it tough also and shed a few tears..Well I should come out of the closet and say I suffer from Depression so I am prone to PND but fingers cross it won't eventuate..I hope things will settle down for you soon..

:wave: to everyone else and I hope you all are going well..

AFM-Ryley and I are going well..He is a bit of a guts when he is drinking his formula. Lol. Was feeding him in the early hours of the morning on Saturday and saw something floating and realise it was a white tail spider :eek: I jumped up and flicked it away..Dad found it under the couch the next morning and it now gone to spider heaven..Lol.

Well better go Ryley just woke up..

Take care..
Kirsten

tracynben

26-01-2009, 15:43

glad im not alone in the strugglin zone, thanks for all ur kind words.
Last night was much better for us, actually got around 4-5 hours sleep in all, and jayden is feeding and sleepin much better so thats good, im hopin i can get him in some kind of rountine soon. Ben isnt being too bad in all actually, he doesnt actually pay that much attention to jayden even when im breastfeedin, hes quite happy just to play by himself, but rich is here at the mo to keep an eye on him, so i dont know what it will be like from next week when hes back at work.

1STTIMEMUM - argh for the spider, i hate spiders, i wouldnt be able to jump off the bed so quickly thou, it would hurt my stomach.

MUMOF4 - glad ur doing great with ur little un and u sound very happy.

GONEBATTY - sorry ur day went wrong, toddlers eh they always play up.

MUMMY2MASON - sorry bf isnt going great for u, good on u for tryin to stick with it and make it work thou, at least then if it doesnt work out u know u gave it ur best shot.

sorry if i forgot anyone else, mind isnt workin great at the mo.

Midwife came round before, jayden is back to his birth rate already nearly, hes put on 240g in 2 days, wow, little piggy. Hes a pooh monster too, its gonna cost us a fortune in nappies, luckily the huggies nappies goin great for us at the mo, but i think we will have to find some cheaper ones to buy with the rate hes goin through them.

tracy xxxx

muminwaiting

27-01-2009, 08:38

Morning everyone,:D

We had another pretty good night....our only problem is constipation..after Holly's 3.30am feed she was unsettled and was straining and pulling her legs up, I laid her down on her change table on a disposable change matt, took her nappy off and rubbed her belly and did the leg raises and after about half an hour she finally did a poo, I had done this numerous times over the day but it hadn't worked. Her poos are almost solid, is this normal?. I have been putting coloxyl in every second feed to help her, I thought that would make her poos runny?...I don't want to blame the formula again because I don't want to have to switch again...Does anyone have any other ideas instead of using the coloxyl, somethiing natural, I am getting worried about all of the intervening I am doing..(we are also on Mylanta for the reflux). I feel like stopping everything and just seeing what happens, but I don't like the power spews, especially when it comes out her nose, she gets so upset.....

Sorry this is all about me....I will be back on later for personals.

PS: Lunch was great, when we got to the restuarant my family & friends were there as well, DH had arranged a suprise birthday lunch for me (birthday is friday)....Holly was perfect, she just sat in her pram looking around and didn't cry once...DH said he had given her the "talk" about being good in a public place...he was very pleased with himself.:laughing:

tracynben

27-01-2009, 10:32

hi everyone, the night went good but this morning is goin rubbish.
Well he wanted to feed every hour up till 9.30pm so that was really tough, every time i sat down he would wanna feed again, arghhhh.
He fed every 3 hours over night which was great but this morning my right boob is nearly blocked and hes not gettin anything from it, hes completely drained the other boob, and now wont settle.
Im so tired, i dont think i can cope with breastfeedin this time round, esp lookin after a toddler too, its gonna be much more difficult for me when rich goes back to work next week.

We gonna give him a bottle in a min, just so hes got some food in him and can sleepl tehn i can jump in the shower and try and unblock my boob.

i really dont wanna get mastitis again, i got it the first time with ben in both boobs, and the day was horrible.

Hope everyone ok

tracy xxxxx

missmum05

27-01-2009, 10:51

Hey Girls

I am getting a little better now, its been 6 days since my cs and I get around a little easier now, I think its mainly the scar itself that hurts (stings) when I walk....so much fun:p

Imogen is going great. she sleeps so much tho, I love when she wakes up and is awake for an hour or so.

The Midwife just came and Imogen has already gained 200 grams in 2 days so thats really good.

1sttimemum I hate spiders too, last night I saw a really big hunsman and I screamed and dh got it luckily...

traceynben thats great jayden is already back to his birth weight:) our bubbas are the same age thats cool

MummytoMason hope bf gets better for you, at least you know you have given it your best shot :hugs:I didnt go to well bf dd1 and gave stopped when she was a month old last time which was very dispointing so this time I really wanted to give it ago and see how I go, so far things are going well, Imogen latches on so much better and doesnt fuss around so much so hope it stays like this. I have so much milk tho that my boobs are hurting because they are so full so I been expressing a bottle a day and dh has been giving it to her at night so I can get some extra sleep which is awesome:yes:

*Sparkles*

27-01-2009, 15:36

Hi Mitty and welcome :wave:

Tracy - We had about a week of unsettled nights but then it all settled down. the important thing is to give them some playtime and stimulation during the day so they know the difference between days and nights.
My DS1 has settled down now too, he went a bit feral for the first few weeks.

Re pain relief - I took nurofen plus after my CS but now I don't need anything (after 5 weeks)

I am thinking about getting an Ergo carrier. We had a Baby Bjorn one for DS1 but he hated it so I sold it on ebay. But Alex is different and he loves laying on my chest and will easily fall asleep that way. I thought the carrier would make life easier for me as I can carrying Alex around the house and it leaves my hands free for other things.

Alex is doing really well on the gaviscon and nights are great, he just wakes once at 4.30am.
DH went back to work today and it's been exactly 5 weeks since the birth. I drove the car for the first time today and it felt like I hadn't even had a break.
DS1 is at daycare so it's just me and bubs, who has been asleep all day!

Oh, and it was DS1's 2nd birthday yesterday :) We didn't do a lot but had a little family party for him on sunday and an ice cream cake.

Gotta go, bubs is screaming for a feed.

chloejane

27-01-2009, 15:42

Hey there ladies i just found this thread and thought i might join.
Lily is 2 weeks old tomorrow. All she does is sleep. She is now on formula as she wasnt latching on to me and i was getting depressed from expressing all the time. She drinks around 60mls each feed and sleeps for up to 7 hrs at night after she has had about 100 mls, she hardly cries, only if we leave her too long after she has woken, was wondering if this is normal for a bub to just sleep and eat?

missmum05

27-01-2009, 17:22

chloejane thats great your bub sleeps so well:)
Imogen is only 6 days old and all she does is eat and sleep and I asked the midwife today if thats normal and she said that newborns can sleep 20 hrs our of 24hrs so I don't think there is anything wrong with her sleeping :)I think as they start getting older they stay up for longer periods....the formula is pob keeping her nice and full and content so she sleeps so long:yes:

tracynben

27-01-2009, 17:29

having a bad day today. From half seven this morning, my right boob is nearly blocked and he emptied the other boob, so been tryin for hours to feed him, give him a bottle to settle him, but hes been so unsettled all day.
tried a shower and heat to release boob, and midwife came, she said not to give up, keep trryin to feed, heat and massage. Im just soooo tired though.
Hes finally settled now to sleep, first time all day, i should go and try and pump and heat my right boob, otherwise im gonna end up with mastitis like last time.
Im thinkin if things go ok to breastfeed in the day and formula in the evening, but will see how things go.

Just found out from midwife too that the surgeon who did my section has just resigned, thats a bit suss, i dint like him and apperently no one did, and apperently he told the nurses that he nicked me somewhere else when he did my surgery but didnt write it down on the forms, so i hope i dont have any problems anywhere.

I have had a very emotional day today, and argues a lot with rich and cried a lot. hopefully tonight and tomos will be better.

tracy xxxxx

BellyFruit

27-01-2009, 21:16

tracynben

27-01-2009, 23:06

Hey ladies,

Just wanted to pop in here quickly and say hi - Went out to the zoo today ugh what a mission, my SIL who had her little girl a week before us wanted to take all the kids out before school went back. The twins loved it of course, but my SIL is a week ahead of me as far as birth healing goes and half way through the day my girl bits just packed it in - just throbbing from walking around for so long... i wanted to just put DH's cold beer between my thighs for a while :laughing:... just wanted to know how long other mums who had VBs had to wait until their bits were relatively pain free again? I didnt have any tears or anything, but it's day 10 for me now, and everything is still pretty tender, when will that tenderness go completely?

am exhausted now, and Chace is fussing a bit... He fed every 2 hours at the zoo, but it was 33 degrees, so I thought it was ok because he was most likely thirsty like the rest of us, does this sound right? I am worried about my milk supply because though he fed so often today, right now if he woke for a feed I have almost nothing to give him, my breasts are still all but empty - I thought you produced more and more milk the more your baby fed? He only took 15 mins on one breast each feed today... I don't know... are they not getting emptied enough or something? Am not giving up though, will keep at it and overnight my boobs seem to call in reinforcements and plump up again for the next day, though not sure if this will continue or not...?? BF all new to me, as I did not BF the twins... Chace usually only feeds 15-20mins on one breast at any one feed and then that will see him through usually 3-4 (sometimes 4.5) hours... so I thought he was getting enough, but is that routine affecting my milk supply or what :confused:??

Tracy, hang in there mate, things will settle and get better...

I'll be on with more personals a bit later... I was foul to DH before (who was settling Chace with a bath and a cuddle) and then he proceeded to be foul to me - sleep deprivation huh? it's a killer so I need to go give him a cuddle...

MIL dropped in while we were out and mowed the lawn and did several loads of washing, and folding etc... she's a darling I tell you... she keeps popping round with little gifts or a whole meal or something if DH is at work at night and fusses and tidies and snuggles chace and the twins to death... she's lovely that woman... (er, sorry, just wanted a mini brag as lots of MILs are **** but mine is fantastic :D)

Will jump on here a bit later...

Hugs,

Didi x

I wish i had a MIL to fuss over me like that, not too bad at mo cos rich is doin everything while hes been off, and i mean everyting. Im dreadin though when he goes back to work next week.

Ben has been throwin his toys around more and has more tantrums, and resists more at nap and bedtime, obviously its harder for me cos i cant just go and pick him up, cos of the section.

I thought bf second time round would be much easier but im actually findin it a lot harder.
rich wants me to stick at it, but i really just think i dont want to, for the sake of our familys happiness more than anything. I think it will cause more stress and i think ive got blocked ducts on both sides now, im so tired and when he cant feed properly i dont get a minute to myself.

I had my stitches out today so feelin quite sore, hopefully will feel better soon. Im gonna need to drive ben to childcare next thurs and fri, so hopefully ill be feelin a lot better n stronger.

My stupid ankles and legs are still swollen, hope they go down soon, its doing my head in.

How long was it for mums who had sections before they felt a lot better, as in doing houselhold stuff without achin lots.
I actually dont feel too bad and am not takin any pain relief now, but i cant do anything too strenous

tracy xxxx

mitty

28-01-2009, 07:33

Im feeling much better today--hubby went to work without me in tears. LOL

I was looking forward to my morning walk to school but it is lookin like rain again(damn weather) so now my girl may just have to walk by herself in the rain--lucky for the umbrella(although I think she needs a rain coat)

Huggies nappies- i have found them to leak really bad, so went to babylove and they have a tendency to leak too, so bought a big box of snugglers so wish us luck.

I tried putting Aiden in the sling yesterday(baby carrier-tomy brand) just after a feed. God I must really be stupid-got the second buckle clipped and he chucked all down his front, down my shirt and down my bra(lovely feeling that :barf:)

SO it now has to go through the wash!

We took him to the dr yesterday for a check up and he put on 600g since the 14th of Jan......but the sad thing is my dr now informs me she is leaving :hissy:....I just really hope I get my 6 week check with her. I have a list of things to go over.

Don't want to go to another dr at the surgery cos they are all so hard to understand and I dont want to ask for the contraceptive pill and come home with heart tablets? They truly are so hard to understand plus I need to have a paps smear cos I have put it off for so long i can't put it off any longer.

So may just go searching for another female dr if she isnt there. Silly me forgot to ask her when she was leaving. Oh and i have to get onto the cervical cancer vaccine too. Plus have some moles that need checking.

Hope you ladies are doing well today and bubba's behaved themselves last night.

Aiden had his bed time feed at about 8.30pm then went to bed and woke just after 2.00am for another feed. THen he was awake again at 6.00am for his brekky feed.

muminwaiting

28-01-2009, 09:01

Morning ladies,

TMD - I am no expert because I sucked at breatfeeding. But heres what I was told....your breasts don't need to feel "full" to have milk in them, it's just always there, your body is constantly making enough... I questioned that Holly only seemed to feed for about 10mins on both,(after having been told that 20 -30mins each was what was needed) and I was told that bubs with a really good sucking action could drain a boob in 10mins..some have done it in less.If chace is gaining weight and content after a feed, and sleeping well which he is he must be getting enough.

Re VB: I only had two stitches, and I was pretty right by day 14 as far as I can remember, god is seems so long ago I have even forgot the horror of giving birth and am thinking I could do this all again.:p:D. If it is really bad I would talk to your Doc about it.

Ummmm can I borrow your MIL, what a treasure..you go ahead and brag.:D

I am off to a friends house for lunch, it seems to take hrs to get organised these days, and you have to take so much stuff, I was always a real handbag type of girl, last few times we have been out I have just thrown my wallet in the nappy bag I cant be bothered trying to carry it as well....its sad all very sad. lol.

Cordelia

28-01-2009, 10:40

Morning everyone - hope you all had reasonably good nights!!!

missmum - wow, sounds like Imogen is gaining weight really well!!

chloe - welcome :) The nurse told me it's fine for baby to sleep through the night (7-8 hours) if they are getting lots of wet nappies and very alert at other times. Which is why we started waking Daniel!!! If shes gaining weight and happy I wouldn't worry. But if she's sleeping so much it might be because she's not getting enough milk.

Tracy - hope your breasts are getting better. youch - I had this in my first week and stood in the shower massaging 4 times a day. (lucky DH was home to watch the kids). that sounds very dodge about your surgeon... what the.... ceaser recovery: Daniel is 3.5 weeks and I still get sore if I do much. short answer - dont do ANY work!! That's naughty!!! I was in a lot more pain this time and I think it's because i was in hospital a lot longer with DD so it's all about RESTING. dont' overdo it!! I hope ben has a better day for you today.

twinmum - you're good going to the zoo!!! I'm nowhere near there. I think it's normal for babies to feed more when a) it's a hot day and b) they're going through a growth spurt. (which they do at around 3 weeks?) You may not have been producing as much milk if you were tired and hot also. so it's good to drink lots of water and REST!!! Hope you can do that today!!! I hope your pain has improved and wow for your MIL!!

muminwaiting - have a nice lunch today!!

Us: I started the Gina Ford routine yesterday and I was soooo tired by the end of the day always keeping an eye on the clock. So today, he wouldn't sleep because he was STARVING so I thought stuff it and fed him and going to throw the book away. (for now anyway!!!) Anyone else tryign a routine? I feel like we were really happy doign demand feeding but I thought I needed some structure to get him to sleep at night. So will just attempt to get him to stay awake for an hour/hour and a half after every feed today.

Going to the movies with a friend and taking him along tonight!!! He should sleep or I'll just get my boob out if he gets unsettled. :)

DD was great yesterday. Did everything she was told and no tantrums. It was the first day DH was back at work so I'm wondering if he's the problem!! He tends to fuss over her when she chucks a sick whereas I just shrug it off and distract her. Feeling good about her but I bet she tries it on a bit more today!!!!

Ok very very long post - have a great day everyone :)

Cordelia

28-01-2009, 10:43

PS Does anyone know how soon you can go swimming after a caesarean? I'm not bleeding anymore.. I have 6 weeks in my mind but I dont know if thats somthing to do with not wearing a tampon

Incy Wincy

28-01-2009, 10:56

Hello All,

I got a bit confused on where to find you all.

Hear you about the BF'ding. I bottle fed last time and I'm Bf'ding this time. It's going a lot better as I'm more aware of how to attach etc. but I've still got sore nipples. I think DD has a strong suck and sometimes she does this power sucking where her jaw clicks and that hurts. I got mastitis 5 days after the birth and that was awful. I didn't know what it was at first and thought I had flu or something. I was having hot and cold spells and had to be wiped down with a cold face washer by DH when feeding during my hot flushes. Not nice at all. The doc gave me some antibiotics so I'm better now and trying to drain each breast thoroughly. I've also got an electric mini breast pump which I've tried a couple of times. Hopefully, I can use this to avoid mastitis and build up my supply and have some milk in storage.

So far bubs has been pretty good. Demand feeding in the first week was tiring but the CHN advised me to try and space out feeds to every 3hrs approx. Like you Didi I've been a bit worried about it being so hot here in Melb so I've been giving bub extra boob drinks. You were also adventurous going to the zoo. I was feeling a bit weak after the mastitis and now I'm staying in to avoid the heat.

DS (who is 6yrs old) has been fabulous and a great help. I don't know how you ladies with younger ones cope! DH is back at work and I have my parents from the UK staying with me. They have helped with washing up, the washing & keeping DS occupied etc. Back to school next week so we'll have to see how the school run goes. At least I can nip out without bub whilst my parents are with me.

Re: VB. I felt pretty good a couple of days after the birth. I had a couple of stiches. Didn't have to have any pain killers but could feel twinges when BF'ding but put that down to uterus contracting back. My spongy stomach is yuk esp the bit underneath. My muscles has separated so I'm going to see the hospital physio soon to see what exercises I need to do to try and repair them. The joys of childbirth eh?!

Have a good day everyone and hopefully a good night with lots of sleep.

bootiful

28-01-2009, 10:59

hello fellow birth groupers :D

just wanted to say i have been trying to catch up on reading this whole thread since Nicole was born but with going back into hospital im still trying to get through it all.

will try come back on and do personals later and fill you in on how things are with us.

hope your all having a good day :sunshine:

1stTimeMum09

28-01-2009, 12:21

Hello ladies..

Huggies Nappies-well I decided to go to infants and they are working totally fine no leakage or anything like so fingers cross..

Tracy-:hugs: things will get better..Hope your okay..

missmum05-yay for DH for catching the spider..That's great about Imogen weight gain..

Hels-I am using a jazsling and found it great..I heard Baby Bjorn are good...Hope DS1 had a good birthday..

Mitty-sorry to hear about bubs throwing up on you..Ryley did that the other day..

Dee-I had a VB and had 8 stitches. But also had a epipistomy so I am still recovering. Lol. Baths with sea salt help heaps..But I am not as sore though..You have a great MIL..

Cordelia-I am not trying a routine as yet..But I am during the day putting Ryley on his play mat and at night just putting him straight to bed without play..Hope you have a good nigth.

:wave: chloejane-ryley slept all the time to at 2 weeks. Lol.

:wave: angelbaby & incy wincy-glad you guys found us..

:wave: to everyone else I missed..

AFM-Saw the MCHN yesterday and Ryley nearly weigh 4 kgs! :D I think he be there now as he was 3980 grams and he has been very clingy today he just wants to sleep on me and after 2 goes he is finally sleeping in his rocker..It's so hot here in Melbourne so I have a fan on him at the moment..Also I been feeding every 2 to 2 half hours because I think he is going through his 3 week growth spurt. He woke up at 4 for a feed and down at 4:30am and he woke up at 9! So I had a good 4 and half hour sleep :smiliedance:I am healing nicely a little itchy but its a good sign though..Just very tired..Lol.

Well hope you all are well..
Kirsten

Shell31

28-01-2009, 20:08

Hi Everyone,

Hope everyone is well & that our Jan babies are all behaving themselves & letting mum have a rest.

Kirsten - Wow thats great that Riley is up to 4kgs now. Well done. I bet you're chuffed with him. He looks so so cute in your avatar. I"m with you about being tired.. Think its part & parcel of being a new mum.

Angelbaby - Glad your home again. You feeling ok? What a stress having to go back to hospital. How's Nicole? Good luck catching up on the thread lol.

IncyWincy - YAY.. you finally found us :) Mastitis sounds horrid.. Thankfully I've never suffered from it. I hear its terrible. I'm really feeling for you ladies in the Melbourne heat.. I hear it was like 43 or something ridiculous like that today.. how gross..

Cordelia - I was wondering the same thing. I adore baths & got some beautiful bath soak as a gift from a friend but am worried about soaking as I have disolvable stiches which I can still feel there. We also live at the beach & spend alot of time there so am interested in knowing. Let me know if you find out. How did you go at the movies.. DH was saying we should do that. Go see Australia & take Daisy. Whack her on the boob if she grizzles :)

MuminWaiting - I know what you mean about taking so much stuff with you. Daisy is my 4th so I've downsized the stuff needed each outing to basic basic basic. I have a big cool handbag my Sis gave me for christmas so I just chuck a couple of nappies in there, a small travel pack of wipes & a dummy & off I go. She's not a spewer so I dont need spare clothes or anything. As for feeding. Daisy is a master at feeding. She rarely feeds on the first side for more then 10mins.. maybe 3 times she's gone for 12mins.. then maybe 5-8 mins on the other side & she settles & goes 4hours usually so she must be getting all she needs. Plenty of wet & dirty nappies to so all is well. I think like everyone else is saying all babies are different & are stronger suckers.

Mitty - I love your avatar pic.. Where did you get that done? Or did you take it & play with it? I love photo's. Its a great shot. Glad to hear you waved DH off without tears today lol.. It does get easier. Good luck with your Dr. I hope she atleast hangs around until you're 6 week check up.

Tracy - I know what you mean about the b/f�ng. Its hard with a toddler running around. I was feeding Daisy today on our bed whilst on the phone & Theo was jumping up & down on the bed next to me lol.. Poor Daisy got a milkshake. Hope your not too sore after getting your stitches out. I drove yesterday & it will be 3 weeks tomorrow for me. I had the same problem with DH back at work. I won't lie.. I was sore as anything last night & going up gutters or over speed humps was abit of an issue and I did have to take some panadol last night. Little steps I guess. Will take awhile to be back to normal.

Didi - Wow your a trooper braving the zoo. Sorry you ended up abit sore after it all. Sounds like b'f ing is going as it should for you. I'm sure Chace would let you know if he wasnt getting everything he needed. 15mins is perfect. Keep it up I think you're doing great.

Hope everyone else is ok. I've only gone back 2 pages for personals. Its all I can manage tonight.

AFM - Daisy's good. Been feeding every 3 hours or so today & for a little longer so Im thinking we are having a 3 week growth spurt. I'd like to get her weighed again so might try & get that done tomorrow at a chemist in town. OUr clinic is impossible to get into.. The CHN who came for the home visit told me to ring up last week for her 6 week check up. Going to the shops tomorrow to get some new sports shoes for DD1. We will take Daisy with us too. Should be fun.

Well I'm off to have a cuppa & a choc chip cookie or 2..

Rachelle x

k2ma

28-01-2009, 20:14

Hi everyone.

We have had a day at home today - and to be honest I have really enjoyed it. I think the boys needed it too.

Tracy :hugs:- sore breasts ouch! I found that breastfeeding hurt like hell for all three kids. I was stunned with DS2 as to how painful it was. THis time I expected it to hurt but by golly that did not help when it did. I expressed a couple of feeds to give my poor aching boobs a rest...thogh I have also been advised to feed through the pain!! Personally i prefer the pump method! I also used a new avent product to stop the pads sticking to skin...not sure if i am able to put product name up...pm me if you want the name.

TMD - I was truly achy for about 2 weeks after vb. I still get twinges if i try doing too much or get in and out of the car too quickly! PS I have a MIL just like yours and count my lucky stars for her!

Angel - hope all is ok.

Lucas is sleeping lots but likes to be held...hard work in the day...settles reasonably at night though so let's hope he keeps that up.
Other than that we are travelling really well...i still have parental help for another 2 weeks...then the chaos will truly begin!:D

epiphany

29-01-2009, 01:29

Hi everyone. It's nearly 2am but too hot to sleep. Sigh.

I've had a difficult week. My son has hit that terrible 2s stage. And he woke this morning with conjunctivitis, so I haven't been able to put him into daycare to get a break. Which, as much as I love him, kind of sucks. My sleep is all over the place due to J grunting all night & the last few nights have been a bit erratic, sleep wise...plus my son has started waking up *really* early & coming into bed with us (which he has never done before now). The other night, I literally got 2 hours sleep *all night* & had an irritable toddler & non-sleeping newborn to deal with all day. I'm exhausted. But can't sleep now. Grrr.

I'm also going to bite the bullet & admit I'm having bonding issues again. Some of you may remember that I was feeling concerned during my pregnancy because I wasn't "bonding with my bump" or whatever...I wasn't excited about having a baby, etc (& it wasn't because she was an accident or anything - I have secondary infertility as a result of PCOS, so had to have fertility treatment to get pregnant...so she was very much planned for & desired). Well...everyone told me I'd bond with her when she was born...yadda yadda yadda...& it just hasn't happened. I love her. But I feel very detached. It's a very weird sensation. Like she's someone else's baby. And it's not something I've ever experienced with my other kids before. Maybe I'm just overtired...

PS Does anyone know how soon you can go swimming after a caesarean? I'm not bleeding anymore.. I have 6 weeks in my mind but I dont know if thats somthing to do with not wearing a tampon

I'd wait for around 6 weeks (maybe after your 6 week check). Unless you're having trouble with your scar (not healing, etc).

Us: I started the Gina Ford routine yesterday and I was soooo tired by the end of the day always keeping an eye on the clock. So today, he wouldn't sleep because he was STARVING so I thought stuff it and fed him and going to throw the book away. (for now anyway!!!) Anyone else tryign a routine? I feel like we were really happy doign demand feeding but I thought I needed some structure to get him to sleep at night. So will just attempt to get him to stay awake for an hour/hour and a half after every feed today.

Eat-Play-Sleep. That's the only "routine" we've ever done with our kids. Feed on demand, age-appropriate play for an age-appropriate amount of time(although sometimes this part gets skipped when they're very little), then off to bed. Has worked well for all 3 kids so far &, overall, we haven't really had too many problems with nighttime sleeping at all (& the ones we have had were quite easy to solve & weren't because they weren't on a rigid routine). Some routine is important - kids like predictability. But you don't want to become a slave to the clock. Your baby will tell you what they need, when they need it. Especially when they're this little (it's a bit different when they're older).

How long was it for mums who had sections before they felt a lot better, as in doing houselhold stuff without achin lots.
I actually dont feel too bad and am not takin any pain relief now, but i cant do anything too strenous

Big hugs, hun & hope you're feeling a bit better. Each person varies & each section will be different. My 1st took the whole 6 weeks before I started feeling right. My 2nd was a bit quicker but I was still uncomfy around 4 weeks later. This time, I was driving a few days after coming out of hospital &, apart from (stupidly) hula hooping 4 weeks after the c-section & being in mild pain for a week, I've been fine since about a week after I left hospital (it took me about 2 weeks from the c-section to be completely pain-free). I was back to doing household chores within a couple of weeks of surgery & have been lifting my 2 year old for several weeks now (it's 6 weeks since the section this week). However, everyone is different & just because I feel this way doesn't mean you will or that you should be off doing housework or lifting kids. Let your body be your guide. Take it easy &, if in doubt, don't do anything until after 6 weeks.

am exhausted now, and Chace is fussing a bit... He fed every 2 hours at the zoo, but it was 33 degrees, so I thought it was ok because he was most likely thirsty like the rest of us, does this sound right? I am worried about my milk supply because though he fed so often today, right now if he woke for a feed I have almost nothing to give him, my breasts are still all but empty - I thought you produced more and more milk the more your baby fed? He only took 15 mins on one breast each feed today... I don't know... are they not getting emptied enough or something? Am not giving up though, will keep at it and overnight my boobs seem to call in reinforcements and plump up again for the next day, though not sure if this will continue or not...?? BF all new to me, as I did not BF the twins... Chace usually only feeds 15-20mins on one breast at any one feed and then that will see him through usually 3-4 (sometimes 4.5) hours... so I thought he was getting enough, but is that routine affecting my milk supply or what :confused:??

All sounds completely normal, hun & you sound like you're doing a great job! Chace will feed more frequently when it's hot (the foremilk is thin & watery & helps quench thirst...eg J normally feeds every 3-4 hours but in today's heat has been feeding every 1.5-2 hours!). Your milk supply does build up if bubs is feeding more but don't judge supply by how "full" your breasts feel. In general, they're only hard & "full" early on (when your milk is establishing) or if you haven't fed for a while. As you progress over the following months, your breasts will just feel normal most of the time as they adjust to baby's needs & routine. And if you're feeding lots during the day, they probably won't have time to get to a point where they feel full & heavy. As for length of feed...10 mins per side is usually considered "normal" (although your bub will regulate that to some extent - some babies feed longer). And sometimes one side is all they want. So 15 mins is just fine. But is he doing only one side *all* the time? Does he fall asleep while feeding? My son used to do this & I found the best way round it was to change his nappy after the first side so he'd wake up enough for the second side. If he's falling asleep at the breast, try rubbing his foot to get him to suck...if he doesn't, or you need to rub his foot a few times, then it's time for him to come off (because he's asleep).

Lily is 2 weeks old tomorrow. All she does is sleep. She is now on formula as she wasnt latching on to me and i was getting depressed from expressing all the time. She drinks around 60mls each feed and sleeps for up to 7 hrs at night after she has had about 100 mls, she hardly cries, only if we leave her too long after she has woken, was wondering if this is normal for a bub to just sleep and eat?

All newborns just eat & sleep (& poo) :) But they quickly get more interactive & stay alert & awake for longer periods of time as they get older. 7 hours is a long time for a 2 week old to sleep at once, though...I remember reading somewhere that if they're sleeping for longer than about 4 hours at a time at that age, it may pay to wake them for a feed to ensure they're getting enough (but I'm sure google is your friend if you wanted to find out more). Is she having lots of wet nappies (6-8 per day)? If she was a bit older, though, I'd say just let her sleep & enjoy! #1 was sleeping through at 6 1/2 weeks - it was great :)

Her poos are almost solid, is this normal?. I have been putting coloxyl in every second feed to help her, I thought that would make her poos runny?...I don't want to blame the formula again because I don't want to have to switch again...Does anyone have any other ideas instead of using the coloxyl, somethiing natural, I am getting worried about all of the intervening I am doing..(we are also on Mylanta for the reflux). I feel like stopping everything and just seeing what happens, but I don't like the power spews, especially when it comes out her nose, she gets so upset.....

Firm poos are pretty common with a bottlefed baby. Unless it's hard or she's pooing little pellets (or she's straining with no results all the time), she's probably not constipated.

Angel...hope you're feeling better after your stint in hospital. Surgery sucks, huh?! Big hugs, hun :hugs:

Logan&KodasMumma

29-01-2009, 07:40

Hi Ladies,

Epiphany- I know how you feel hun, I felt the same way when I had Logan. Like someone was going to jump out from behind a half open door with a camera saying "Candid camera!! We'll take the baby back to it's real mum now". I love him very much but in my case I don't feel like I am his mum. All I can suggest is talking to a clinic nurse about how you feel, or your GP and getting help asap. Just remember it doesn't make you a bad mum or a bad person.

Cords- I would personally throw that book in a fire, routines are meant for when they are old enough to understand them, not for newborns.
Unfourtunatley babies don't come with timers!! Even though sometimes I wish mine would! He feeds from 7 till 12 at night. Cluster feeding but if i put him down or give him to someone else... SCREAMS HIS HEAD OFF. But I just do everything I need to do now before 7 so I can just relax from 7pm.

TMD- I had Koda @ a bbq on Australia Day, it was around 36 degrees n he kept feeding, I know I have a good milk supply so I think they just get thirsty. I know I was drinking heaps!! WATER ONLY though.. LOL

AFM- nothing major to report, gooing and gagaING over my little boy. I can't get over how goregous he is. N he loves music, we have snuggles whenever possible!

Still not coping with the girls as well as I would have liked, they seem to have regressed back to "toddlerhood" which by the way is driving me nuts. They just love testing me and next week cannot come soon enough, so I can have a break from them.

So glad we're going to have another baby :>
Seriously I could have ten more, as long as they were all boys!

Muah 4 now

tracynben

29-01-2009, 09:42

hi everyone hope u all ok.
Things going a little bit better now. I thought long and hard about bf and decided to give it up, i have just found it too hard and stressful this time round, and havin a toddler i dont think i will manage too well.
Jayden wasnt too bad on bottle yesterday, i think once i have established some kind of pattern with him it will get easier.
Im suprised how much he drinks though, hes only a week old and drinks as much as 120ml, average about 100ml for each bottle, the guide is only 60ml, but he was a week overdue and weighed 4kg at birth, so hes bigger than average.
I really forgot how hard and demandin a newborn is, even thou its only 2 years since ben, its amazing how you forget.

As for pain with my scar, its actually not been that bad, a little worse than last time, but i feel i can do light household duties now, and i need to drive next week, as rich back at work. I think i should feel ok to do it thou.
The only thing i have been gettin since they took my stitches out is pain in my right groin area and leg, and up my back, more so when i stand, it comes and goes, i dont know if its to do with my blood flow. Has anyone else had this who had a section?

MUMOF4 - sounds like things are going great for you, apart from ur girls, but at least u get a break from them sometimes. It makes such a difference. Im so glad ben goes childcare 2 days a week, thats gonna help me out soooo much.

EPIPHANY - :hugs: sorry ur having a bad week . I know what u mean about the childcare thing too. I would be exactly the same with ben if he was ill and his day to childcare, i would be gutted.
Dont worry about not bonding with the baby, have you spoke to anyone about it, if you feel you need to that is. I had trouble bonding with ben at first, it took me a few months to properly bond with him, i had lots of issues to deal with, but got over in the end.

1STTIMEMUM - i really feel for you at the mo with the heat over there. Thats great ryley goin good with his weight, thats the weight jayden weighed when he was born lol.

INCY WINCY - glad ur other one is helpin u so much, i could do with one like that. Ben hasnt been too bad, hes actually pretty happy to play and watch the tv on his own. I dunno what he will be like thou when rich is back at work, he mite play up more then, ill take each day as it comes, and try and find playgroups to take him too to keep him occupied, i know it will be hard with a newborn too but its better than bein stuck in the house tryin to deal with him.

CORDELIA - i wouldnt go swimmin yet, my midwife told me to wait a while cos u can risk gettin an infection.
As for the gina ford rountine, i think its very strict, have u had a look on the babywhisperer.com website, the rountine on there is better.
BUT i guess what is best to do is monitor ur baby on times and everything, and try and incorparte a rountine into it.

tracy xxxxxx

mitty

29-01-2009, 09:46

Mitty - I love your avatar pic.. Where did you get that done? Or did you take it & play with it? I love photo's. Its a great shot. Glad to hear you waved DH off without tears today lol.. It does get easier. Good luck with your Dr. I hope she atleast hangs around until you're 6 week check up.

I took that picture and played with it.....I'm a wanna be photographer LOL. It has taken me three kids to get a pic like that.

PS Does anyone know how soon you can go swimming after a caesarean? I'm not bleeding anymore.. I have 6 weeks in my mind but I dont know if thats somthing to do with not wearing a tampon

I would wait the 6 weeks personally but if you feel fine and arent bleeding then I guess it is up to when you feel like it.

Us: I started the Gina Ford routine yesterday and I was soooo tired by the end of the day always keeping an eye on the clock. So today, he wouldn't sleep because he was STARVING so I thought stuff it and fed him and going to throw the book away. (for now anyway!!!) Anyone else tryign a routine? I feel like we were really happy doign demand feeding but I thought I needed some structure to get him to sleep at night. So will just attempt to get him to stay awake for an hour/hour and a half after every feed today.

We are doin the demand feeding with the feed, play, sleep thing. But in saying that Aiden turned 3 weeks on Tuesday and the last few days I have noticed a trend of 6am feed, then back to sleep asap(his choice not ours), 9am feed, 1.30pm feed, 4.00pm feed, 8.30pm feed and another at around 2am. Although last night between 6pm and 8pm he basically had wind and cried the whole time and was really unsettled. So we bathed him and wrapped him and he finally settled. he has just gotten into this routine himself(although it suits us) and it isn't definite.
My advice to help with the sleeping at night is stick to the feed, play, sleep thing and demand feed. Keep a routine for a bedtime feed say bath massage and pj's or just change from day clothes and wrap. Then keep late night feeds and early morning feeds quiet, no chatting with bub(it is hard to do when they can be sweet darlings in the night) and keeping things as dark as you can. So use a nightlight rather than turn on the overhead lights. I have found this to help teach bub to distinguish between night and day. Throughout the day I keep feeds bright, happy, and have lots of chats and cuddles and added noise from my 2.5yr old.

bootiful

29-01-2009, 14:38

Angelbaby - Glad your home again. You feeling ok? What a stress having to go back to hospital. How's Nicole? Good luck catching up on the thread lol.

Im so glad to be home too!!! I'm feeling as good as I can I think, im enjoying being home with both kids and things getting back to normal with DH back at work. I feel normal again..which is great.

I've been cleaning, washing, tidying the house up etc and that is helping me feel like everything is back to the way it should be. I just put both kids down for a nap and the house i dead quiet..only took me 5 min to get them both settled...i hope its this easy all the time HAHA

Nicole is doing well, poor little thing has boobs though, and they are leaking milk, they look so uncomfortable, i've read it can last a few weeks.

She is feeding every 4-5 hours during the day for about 15-20mins at a time..she ain't much of a feeder, more sleeper. At nights she sleeps for between 4-7 hours but with the humid weather we have all been very restless.

Glad to hear that Daisy is doing well!

I found that breastfeeding hurt like hell for all three kids. I was stunned with DS2 as to how painful it was. THis time I expected it to hurt but by golly that did not help when it did. I expressed a couple of feeds to give my poor aching boobs a rest...thogh I have also been advised to feed through the pain!! Personally i prefer the pump method! I also used a new avent product to stop the pads sticking to skin...not sure if i am able to put product name up...pm me if you want the name.

Can I ask why it hurts so much, when Nicole latches on properly i can't feel a thing except the odd contraction in my tummy?

Hi everyone. It's nearly 2am but too hot to sleep. Sigh.

It sucks that OZ is having a heat wave atm....

Sorry to hear bout your son..i hope he gets better soon. CV is gross and very uncomfortable..esp for kids.

I'm also going to bite the bullet & admit I'm having bonding issues again.

Oh hun, i wouldn't worry too much, your homones will be all over the place, you will be exhausted and just plane old run down. It can take time to bond with your new baby, every puts expectations on mums to be sooo in love with their baby but sometimes it just doesn't happen that fast. Give it time and just don't put any pressure on yourself.

mumof4under5yrs - sorry to hear bout the girls going backwards..i hope it doesn't last.

R u planning another one already ?????

hi everyone hope u all ok.
Things going a little bit better now. I thought long and hard about bf and decided to give it up, i have just found it too hard and stressful this time round..

I really forgot how hard and demandin a newborn is, even thou its only 2 years since ben, its amazing how you forget.

As for pain with my scar, its actually not been that bad, a little worse than last time, but i feel i can do light household duties now...

The only thing i have been gettin since they took my stitches out is pain in my right groin area and leg, and up my back, more so when i stand, it comes and goes, i dont know if its to do with my blood flow. Has anyone else had this who had a section?

sorry to hear you are giving up breastfeeding. it can't be an easy decision to make.

Demanding...im finding it quite boring..all she does is eat and sleep...i don't get much interaction from her yet. I hope your coping alright.

My scar isn't painful, considering i got cut open twice in 2 weeks..its just a long hard line. What hurts is the clot..hard clot in my soggy tummy.

Not sure bout your pain...maybe you should talk to your GP. Might be sciatica or effects of the epi???

PS Does anyone know how soon you can go swimming after a caesarean? I'm not bleeding anymore.. I have 6 weeks in my mind but I dont know if thats somthing to do with not wearing a tampon.....

Anyone else trying a routine?

Not sure bout the swimming thing but would be interested to find out, why can't you wear a tampon after 6 weeks?

Routine...im just goin with the flow, I try to feed her every 4-6 hours and she sleeps after that....pretty easy.

Shell31

29-01-2009, 15:12

HI Ladies,

I need help. I've been fighting back tears since picking Theo up from daycare. Abit of history might help so here goes. Theo goes to daycare 2 days a week & has done since 6 months old. He usually is very easy to drop off with only the occasional & I mean occasional tears. He just loves interacting with people & seems to enjoy his time there.. Well used to. He had a few weeks off over christmas when the centre was closed & started back the week before last for one day, then two days last week & now today & tomorrow.
Aaron has been taking him as I've not been able to drive & hes been terrible. Crying uncontrollably, clinging onto Aaron so as he has to be peeled off by one of the ladies. He is taking a long time to settle down once Aaron leaves. Aaron's tried staying a little while & trying to settle him in by playing with puzzles or reading books etc. He's tried no fuss just dropping & leaving shortly after. It's so upsetting & its getting worse :no: Aaron said last week he was fighting back the tears himself in the car after dropping him off as he really is a beautiful easygoing little boy. Its so hard to see him so upset. Anybody got any advice? I'm feeling terrible about sending him.
I could take him out but will lose his spot & when I return to work in 6months time we'll be up the creek without a paddle. Also Im not sure that is the answer. Won't being around us 24/7 just make him more clingy? I've agreed to take him tomorrow to see if he is the same when I drop him off or if it is just Aaron. I know I"ll need a box of tissues. I was upset picking him up today when 'he was happy just after talking to one of the ladies about how he was this morning.
I feel so sad & am fighting back the tears. Any advice would be grateful.

:crying: Rachelle

tracynben

29-01-2009, 15:25

k2ma

29-01-2009, 17:36

My brain is all over the show so forgive me if i miss anyone.

shell:hugs: how upsetting. I think tracy is right though.

angel - bf hurt the 1st time cos i got cracked nipples , the second time cos ds2 was such a voracious feeder! Not sure what my excuse is this time:laughing:, habit perhaps!! But seriously it felt like a thousand hot needles being stuck into my nipples...I had to stamp my foot on the floor as he attached!! Positioning was all good as i got that checked by both middy and chn...just one of those things i guess.

Cordelia

29-01-2009, 22:22

evening everyone!!

epiphany :hugs: I'ts only early days yet with the bonding issue. I think for a lot of women (whether they admit it or not) it takes time to get to know their little one and fall in love with him/her. I'm feeling that moreso with Daniel. When I first laid eyes on him I didn't get the same gush of love as I did with DD.. I was more like "what's this funny looking thing!" but am feeling very attached and adoring hinm now.

routine - yeah i threw it in the bin! lasted less than 24 hours. Unfortunately, it coincided with Daniel deciding to have a growth spurt and feeding every 2.5 hours (and through the night!) I am STUFFED!!!! So tired... DH is being a bit of a pain and when I get back into bed he is over my side of the bed and SNORING SOOOO LOUD. Am thinking of sleeping up the other end of the house tnoight as last night got literally no sleep (not because of baby - because of husband).

tracy - glad that you're feeling happier about your feeding now. You just have to do what you have to do - and there are more things to consider when you hvae a toddler as well. Good on you :)

Shell - I really feel for you and your son. I agree with the others - they are having a huge upheaval at the moment. He'll sort himself out.. all in all he's probably happier stickign with his routine that he had before.

DD has been the same. With Daniel feeding every few hours she is not getting much attention at all. And when she woke up from her afternoon nap I went to get her with Daniel (as we were in the middle of a feed) and she bawled her eyes out uncontrollably. It's almost like she forgot we had a baby and got a bad reminder again. she was inconsolable. She keeps pulling my shirt down when I'm breastfeeding. There's not much I can do - i have to feed. she'll adjust eventually I know.

BellyFruit

29-01-2009, 23:19

ooooh quick quick quick- Chace is due to wake up for a feed any second!!

Hi everyone, phew a few posts to get through today!

Epiphany: bonding with your baby is such a personal thing, and does not necessarily happen straight away. Wait a while and let your hormones settle down a bit and then see how you're feeling - hormones can play absolute havoc with your life and can really throw you out of reality for a while... give it time hun :hugs:

Shell: I agree with the other girls, perhaps your son just needs a bit of time to adjust... don't take him out of daycare, he should settle down -maybe he's feeling miffed by the fact that you're home with the baby and he's not there with you? One other thing, I'd check if there has been a change of staff in his room or something, it's probably not the case, but sometimes when my boys were at daycare they didnt like a certain staff member (neither did I) and it was sooo obvious at how stressed they would become when she was around... I hope that's not it, but might be worth asking??

Angel: I missed the drama, why did you go back to hospital???

K2ma: i love my MIL :hugs: yay for you having one too!!

Mitty: I also love that photo - is that a setting on your camera or a program you used?

Tracy: So you're definitely going to give up BF? Good for you hun, you have to do what's best for your own situation... I hope Ben is good when Rich goes back to work :fingerscrossed: thank the lord for daycare... :yes:

Cordelia: Oh, I hope your DD settles soon - must be hard when she cries like that but you can't just put the baby down can you?

Routine: My sister gave me the Gina Ford book and I'm sorry to say that I give her routine a BIG FAT NO for me!! I'm not getting up at 6:45am to express 60ml of milk from one breast etc etc... how exhausting - and waht about my other kids? school drop offs and pick ups etc? I'd have no time for anything else but Chace! Nah, going for the seat-of-my-pants approach! Chace has settled into 3-4hourly feeding, and I do the quiet at night feeds and up and play after day feeds etc... we're managing just fine and i'm happy and getting enough sleep so... Gina Ford can jump on her head! My milk supply is very good, and Chace is very happy...

BF: Thank you for your advice on breastfeeding - I didnt know that your boobs stopped feeling so full a few weeks in as I only expressed milk for three weeks for the twins... and that was YEARS ago!! I let Chace feed until he stops sucking strongly - every now and then I stroke his cheek to keep him going, he doesnt ever fall asleep on the boob, but after 15 mins of full on feeding there aint much left in my breast so I'll burp him or change him if he's sleepy and offer a second breast if he seems to be still rooting around for more... More often than not he is content with 15 mins on one breast and then will either fluff around with the second or falls asleep... I'm very happy with how things are going...

You'll of course all be happy to hear that my girl bits are much better today, and I can actually do some pelvic floor exercises now too... Lord, for the past 11 days just the thought of pelvic floor exercises made my bits tremble... lol!

Have first visit from CHN next week which I'm looking forward to, am hoping to join a mothers group as we are relatively new to our area and dont know a lot of people around here... anyone else joining a mothers group? TBH I HATED the group I joined last time with the twins, first, i was the only one with twins and second, I was very young (only 20) and everyone else was over 35 so we didnt have a lot in common. I'm hoping to strike a new friendship or two... that'd be nice...

Can you believe it? Chace fed at 6pm and is still asleep at 10:15pm!! Hooray!!!

How's everyone going without a bump? HERE (http://www.babysites.com/sites/rosevear/default.asp?page=mybaby&seq=1&cmd=view&album=1) is what I look like now (you'll have to go through my bump pics first!) anyone else brave enough to share?

Fugly - havent seen you on here for a bit -hope your two little darlings are being good for their mummy...

Hi to Haylie too! I put some pics of Chace on Facebook... i'll get some up on here very soon...

Love yooooooooooooooooooous

Didi x

*Sparkles*

29-01-2009, 23:23

Us: I started the Gina Ford routine yesterday and I was soooo tired by the end of the day always keeping an eye on the clock. So today, he wouldn't sleep because he was STARVING so I thought stuff it and fed him and going to throw the book away. (for now anyway!!!) Anyone else tryign a routine? I feel like we were really happy doign demand feeding but I thought I needed some structure to get him to sleep at night. So will just attempt to get him to stay awake for an hour/hour and a half after every feed today.

We demand feed but also have a routine, especially at bedtime. I do watch the clock during the evening to make sure Alex has all his feeds before bed. What is the Gina Ford routine and how does it work? I have never heard of it.

HI Ladies,

I need help. I've been fighting back tears since picking Theo up from daycare. Abit of history might help so here goes. Theo goes to daycare 2 days a week & has done since 6 months old. He usually is very easy to drop off with only the occasional & I mean occasional tears. He just loves interacting with people & seems to enjoy his time there.. Well used to. He had a few weeks off over christmas when the centre was closed & started back the week before last for one day, then two days last week & now today & tomorrow.
Aaron has been taking him as I've not been able to drive & hes been terrible. Crying uncontrollably, clinging onto Aaron so as he has to be peeled off by one of the ladies. He is taking a long time to settle down once Aaron leaves. Aaron's tried staying a little while & trying to settle him in by playing with puzzles or reading books etc. He's tried no fuss just dropping & leaving shortly after. It's so upsetting & its getting worse :no: Aaron said last week he was fighting back the tears himself in the car after dropping him off as he really is a beautiful easygoing little boy. Its so hard to see him so upset. Anybody got any advice? I'm feeling terrible about sending him.
I could take him out but will lose his spot & when I return to work in 6months time we'll be up the creek without a paddle. Also Im not sure that is the answer. Won't being around us 24/7 just make him more clingy? I've agreed to take him tomorrow to see if he is the same when I drop him off or if it is just Aaron. I know I"ll need a box of tissues. I was upset picking him up today when 'he was happy just after talking to one of the ladies about how he was this morning.
I feel so sad & am fighting back the tears. Any advice would be grateful.

Sorry to hear this :hugs:. I could have written your post myself as my DS has been the same. I used to take him to daycare and he would run off and play straight away but when DH took him for a few weeks he would cling on to him and cry uncontrollably. The carers would take him and DH would try to leave asap. I took DS for the first time on tuesday and as soon as we got into the reception area he lay on the floor crying. I told him to stop being silly and picked him up and took him into the room and the carers took over. I was quite strict but also gave him a kiss and cuddle before I left.
I think it's due to them having their routine disrupted and the new baby makes them feel threatened. It's all very confusing to them too. I find the best thing is to keep them in their routines as much as possible and things should calm down and return to normal over time.

AFM - I have had a nasty headache for the last few days probably from this horrible heat.
Alex has been really good today and slept a lot. He also went down tonight with little fuss, I wish everyday was like that :)

*Sparkles*

29-01-2009, 23:26

How's everyone going without a bump? HERE (http://www.babysites.com/sites/rosevear/default.asp?page=mybaby&seq=1&cmd=view&album=1) is what I look like now (you'll have to go through my bump pics first!) anyone else brave enough to share?

After seeing your "no more bump" pic, there is no way I am showing anyone my after-baby muffin top :laughing:

BellyFruit

30-01-2009, 00:24

oh big YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN!

I fed Chace at 6pm at my mums and he fell asleep finally in his car capsule at about 8:30pm. As he has fed 3 hourly lately, I left mum's at about 8:45pm to make sure I was home and settled in time for his 9pm (ish) feed so I didnt have to have a little baby screaming his tiny lungs out all the way home because he was hungry... I've since gotten home and brought Chace inside in his capsule as he was asleep and (as you can see on my other post tonight) jumped quickly on here before he wakes up... well, it's now nearly 11:30pm and Chace is STILL ASLEEP in his car capsule right here beside me... At one point I went to check if he was still breathing! I didnt crawl into bed when I got home as Chace was due to feed "any minute" but now I'm blimmin exhausted and he's still asleep! 5.5 hours is the longest he's ever slept for I can't believe it! I wont wake him because the later he feeds the later he will sleep ie if he feeds at midnight, he prob wont wake again until 5am :fingerscrossed:...

Sooooooooo, now mummy is here, tired as anything, and not wanting to go to bed now as surely he's due to wake up ANY SECOND!! sigh... I love tiny babies... ;)

TMD x :flowerz:

BellyFruit

30-01-2009, 00:30

:detective: I thought he hated his car capsule... I am now thinking we should strap him in it at night as he seems to like it so much he wont wake for hours :laughing:

tracynben

30-01-2009, 09:12

:detective: I thought he hated his car capsule... I am now thinking we should strap him in it at night as he seems to like it so much he wont wake for hours :laughing:

stop posing with ur little belly already. Mine isnt too bad, but cos i have had 2 sections now, at the mo i got this flabby dangly belly, arghhhh, and i cant do serious exercise until after my 6 week check up. I have some dvds ready thou, i want to get into shape, not just to get a flat tummy, but so i have the energy to keep up with the kids.

Things are not too bad with us, jayden is going about 3 hours on average between feeds and has between 100-120ml, i cant believe at a week old hes gulping down that much.
Im happier now im not bf, even though i wanted to do it, it caused a lot of unhappiness and stress, so the bottlefeedin is workin better for us as a family, and i think thats more important.

Stressin over our stupid visas, as we have nomination approval we are gettin our application ready, there are millions of forms to get together, lots of evidence, photos and forms need countersigning by a professional, and we bloody have to get jayden a passport. As we from uk we have to apply to british consulate in canberra for his passport, and we mite have to register his birth with tthe british consulate too, so much messin around.
I wouldnt mind but we dont have to leave the country so we dont need a passport, but its immigration requirements, and its gonna cost $168 just for a 5 year passport which will hardly get used, arghhhhhhhhhhhh.
Luckily they sayin it will only take 2 months max to complete, so we should still be able to claim the baby bonus then when we get residency, YAY.

tracy xxxxxx

*Sparkles*

30-01-2009, 11:30

Has anyone received bubs birth certificate yet? I posted the form off about 4 weeks ago and it hasn't come yet. I was wondering how long it takes?

GoneBatty

30-01-2009, 11:58

OHHH TMD you are evil! showing off ur little body like that ur very lucky! no way am i game enough to post any pics of me i look DREADFUL! been doing a bit of excersize to try lose the lots of weight that i REALLY need to! would love to lose about 10 kilos so wish me luck!

Birth Cert i sent my forms off the week after she was born and got them a week later was suprised it was so quick!

Weather oh my gosh it has been so hot here this week! today is pretty bad and no housework is getting done until tonight its just to hot n i i have a shocking headache

sorry cant remember much else gunna go try shake this headache :(

bootiful

30-01-2009, 14:19

HI Ladies,

I need help. Any advice would be grateful.

:crying: Rachelle

Steph is doing the same kinda thing atm...and its normal..she would rather stay home and play with her toys than go to daycare and she LOOOVVVEEESSS daycare...she just doens't wanna miss out on anything at home...it will pass...just reassure him that he will coming home to something good, maybe a toy or some reading time with mummy or play time with baby etc...just try not to make a big deal out of it.:hugs:

angel - bf hurt the 1st time cos i got cracked nipples , the second time cos ds2 was such a voracious feeder! Not sure what my excuse is this time:laughing:, habit perhaps!! But seriously it felt like a thousand hot needles being stuck into my nipples...I had to stamp my foot on the floor as he attached!! Positioning was all good as i got that checked by both middy and chn...just one of those things i guess.

Have you tried a nipple shield....i have a cracked left nipple and this has been a god sent..it still hurts a bit but means i can feed on both sides.

Angel: I missed the drama, why did you go back to hospital???

How's everyone going without a bump?

anyone else brave enough to share?

After my csection i had a bleed and a massive clot formed in my tummy...i had to undergo emergency surgery to remove it (cut open again :crying:) and spent 5 more days in hospital so bout 10 days all up :hair:

OK im gonna be brave and post my photos..

40 week bump
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t84/chellen_family_photos/th_40wks_front_a.jpg (http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t84/chellen_family_photos/40wks_front_a.jpg)

WARNING !!!!! - disgusting photo...............After removal of the massive blood clot...the bandage is where the drains were.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t84/chellen_family_photos/th_after_removal_1a.jpg (http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t84/chellen_family_photos/after_removal_1a.jpg)

honeydew

30-01-2009, 15:16

Hi ladies :wave:

I'm reading along just not posting a lot. Layla has turned into a little cat napper- will sleep for 5 mins here or there but wants to be cuddled and fed the rest of the time.... I'm exhausted!!! I really can't complain about nights though, she goes approx 5 hours between feeds at night which is pretty good. Much better than Mason was at this age, although he was easier during the day than she is.

Routine- we dont bother with one for the first few months, although in the beginning we were waking L to feed her 3 hourly because of weight concerns.

Bugga, both kids awake again so gotta go..... :wave:

GoneBatty

30-01-2009, 15:46

BubsNo1

30-01-2009, 16:27

Hiya mums and bubs!! :wave:

I've finally made it to this thread after catching up on how everyone is going.

I am looking forward to finding out what's been happening in this thread over the last week and a half!! Probably ALOT no doubt! :p

Just a quick one to say that both William & I are doing well. I think I've recovered from the op quite well which I'm pleased about. The staples were removed today (all 16 of them! :eek:)

I have posted my birth story in the "Due in January" thread for those that may wish to read it :)

Catch up soon girls, byes :wave:

Sheree xxx
:flowerz:

Ashi

30-01-2009, 17:27

Hi girls hope your all doing well
i cant sit long enough to post anything because isabelle is finally asleep and i need to start on dinner lol

but i have to say bubsno1 your little william is gorgeous!!
my eldest son is named william :D great name hehe

And Angel omgosh your poor tummy hope you heal up fast, my tummy looked like that for about 4 1/2 weeks after my emergency c section with haley..
this time i was amazed to see there was hardly any bruising a few days after the c sect!

anyways ill be back to post more later we are doing well but the heat is a killer at the moment! praying for a cool change very soon.... bring on winter imo!!

bootiful

30-01-2009, 17:45

Oh ouch that looks so sore angel u poor thing

well i got on my wii fit again after my last post and feel much better about myself now, seems as tho my walking and light working out is paying off, and ive lost 2.6kgs in 2 weeks :yelclap: only about 7.4kgs to go! :laughing:

oooo i played tennis and bowling on the wii last night for the first time in weeks....i was buggered afterwards....

im getting back on the fit on monday, gonna start my weight loss journey and im very excited....im gonna buy the jillian michaels ultimate fitness too :D

And Angel omgosh your poor tummy hope you heal up fast, my tummy looked like that for about 4 1/2 weeks after my emergency c section with haley..
this time i was amazed to see there was hardly any bruising a few days after the c sect!

that bruising was just from the clot...non from the actual c section which is depressing...i have been cut open 3 times..only have 2 kids to show for it..and a bruised saggy tummy i can't do nothing with :( talk bout depressing.

MummaFug

30-01-2009, 17:55

:wave: Mummies

Just a quick HI ... I am trying to keep up with you all but have been busy with Ma & Pa in town... (they like to shop:))

Hope you are all coping with your little Kiddies ...

GoneBatty

30-01-2009, 18:46

oooo i played tennis and bowling on the wii last night for the first time in weeks....i was buggered afterwards....

im getting back on the fit on monday, gonna start my weight loss journey and im very excited....im gonna buy the jillian michaels ultimate fitness too :D

i saw that game at EB the other day n thought it looked alright.... ive also been using "my fitness coach" game on the wii, thats not to bad either

bootiful

30-01-2009, 20:11

i saw that game at EB the other day n thought it looked alright.... ive also been using "my fitness coach" game on the wii, thats not to bad either

yeah the normal wii fit game is excellent..i love the piggy bank :laughing:

Melly_11

30-01-2009, 20:12

Hey everyone! I havent posted in here yet!

Me and Max are going great. Its a bit tiring with three kiddies under 25 months to look after but Im coping ok. Went to the MCHN today and Max has put on 220grams a week being exclusively breastfed! So I am loving that my body is doing all the work.

Hope everyone is well!

*Sparkles*

30-01-2009, 20:13

Birth Cert i sent my forms off the week after she was born and got them a week later was suprised it was so quick!

Anyone else got theirs yet?
I got the baby bunus paid real quick but no sign of the birth cert yet. I want to open bubs bank account and I can't do it without the birth cert.

Also, was I meant to send some money for it? I was so tired at the time that I can't remember and I sent it off without any payment.

Seeing as it's been 4 weeks should I phone up to chase it?

Melly_11

30-01-2009, 20:28

Hels I got mine about a week after he was born. I would definitly chase it up. There was a bit on it for credit card details that I filled out.

*Sparkles*

30-01-2009, 20:45

Hels I got mine about a week after he was born. I would definitly chase it up. There was a bit on it for credit card details that I filled out.

I just had a look at the births, deaths and marriages website and I will ring them next week to find out what's happening.
I think I stuffed up and didn't do the creditcard bit :banghead:

Shell31

30-01-2009, 21:02

Hi everyone :wave:

Thought I'd give you an update on how Theo went today.. Thank you all for your feedback. I googled (My best friend) some hints last night aswell. I decided that I would drop him off rather then Aaron as I seriously think the clingyness with Daddy may be contributing. We had major koala cuddles in the driveway & getting into the car with Aaron. I had Theo & my two older dd's in the car as I was doing the school rounds so we all sung some songs in the car on the way & things were looking good.
Dropped DD 2 off at school & headed to daycare. Out of the car & into the centre then into his room, he helped unpack his bag & put food in the fridge. All going well. We showed his favourite carer Emily his thomas the tank train also called Emily :) that we brought in from home & had a chat. Then DD1 & I said goodbye..
Ok now we had major tears & koala bear peel him off cuddles :no:. I didnt fuss too much & explained that Daddy would pick him up after sleep time. Broke my heart & even DD1 was sad in the car when her school uniform had a little wet spot from his tears..
So I held it together until the carpark then broke down. DD was consoling me as we drove to her first day at high school.. I looked in the rearview mirror & said to her.. Jamie.. I can't drop you at school on your first day looking like this!! People will think I"m a freak with these red crying eyes lol.. So we stopped up the road & I got it together and onwards we went. Dropped her off & went home..
I rang daycare & spoke with Emily & she said he was still upset today but settled after about 15mins rather then the usual 30-45mins when Aaron drops him off. She suggested sending a little flip photo album with photo's of us all in there for him to look at throughout the day also so I'll do that for next week. I did notice that being a new year there were alot of new little children crying after being dropped off so thats got to be unsettling in itself & also his other favourite carer from last year is not there this year so there have been a few changes. Fingers crossed things will improve with time.
Thanks for your support Im a blithering mess when it comes to my beautiful baby boy being upset. He's far to precious to be this upset.

I ducked out for an hour & a half tonight to a friend from works farewell. I'm home now obviously & Aaron has gone to make an appearance. We both work for the same company so my friends are his friends. I had a good time seeing everyone & getting all dressed up even if it was just for a little while.. I made the choice not to express and leave Daisy to have EBM in a bottle as she is only 3wks old & I've had bad experience's with introducing a bottle too early. She was great for her daddy as were the other 3 so all went well. Hope he is having a good time with a cold beer right about now. I'm having a glass of wine. I reckon I deserve it !!!!

Sorry for the long post all about me but thought you might like to know how we went. I will do some personals tomorrow.

Rachelle x

tracynben

30-01-2009, 21:19

Has anyone received bubs birth certificate yet? I posted the form off about 4 weeks ago and it hasn't come yet. I was wondering how long it takes?

I got mine within a week, and lookin on the website it says it should only take 4 days, so i would def give them a ring.

EXERCISE - im not even botherin with exercise yet as after having a section not suppose to do anything for 6 weeks, so once i had my check up at 6 weeks, ill ask the doctor if its ok to exercise.

WEIGHT/BELLY - i weighed 8st9lb before i got preg, and was 10st13 lb before he was born, im now about 9st 11 lb after just over a week, so hopefully it wont take too long to loose the weight, as for my belly its just a bit dangly at the mo.

SHELL - sorry ur still having a hardtime with theo, im sure it will get easier in a couple of weeks.

Sorry i prob missed half of u .

As for me had a pretty stressful day, been trying to get photographs signed for immigration purposes, took us all day cos no one would sign them, apperently they have to know you for 2 years, but we finally managed to get them done.
Just gotta get jaydens passport, have medicals and wait for police checks to come back then we can send our application off.

I dont think ill be gettin much sleep tongiht, next door neighbours just knocked on our door, informed us they are havin a party and the police are aware that loud music will be playin till 12, WTF....... I hope they dont wake jayden, and now i wont be able to go to bed till 12, cos i wont be able to sleep throu it, ARGHHHHHHHHH and i really need sleep.

Took ben to child health nurse, hes doing great, hes already passed his birth weight and hes only 9 days old, he now weighs 4.1kg, so in the space of 6 days hes put on 400g, his head and length have grown 2cm already too, WOW hes such a piggy.

tracy xxxxx

Logan&KodasMumma

31-01-2009, 02:39

Hi all,

I would love to know why I can't sleep right now, I even did two loads of washing an hung them out.,... whats th eworld coming to when you have to do housework to get to sleep?

Excercise- I am joining a muay thai kickboxing gym soon. I do alot of walking though, and some swimming (when i get time).... I really want to buy a pilates dvd too, and im starting gym at the hospital with the physio :>

Weightloss- I am 82kgs now :yelclap: Less than I was before I had him, all I have left over is a little bit of loose skin, dmn the stretch marks from hell!!!!

Shell- It'll get easier hun

Tracynben- Your little piggy sounds like my little piggy! He's put on over a kilo in 3 weeks!!

Birth Certificates- I got mine back within 4 days. Having said that, I went into the office to order it and they called me back when it was ready to pick up.

Nintendo WII- I would LOVE to get my hands on this, I really would!!! Maybe Koda can buy his mummy an early mother day pressie ;P

HELLO to everyone...

Ohhhhhhh

go to www.kodacutts.knowmylittle.com

heheeh this is a awesome website

Melly_11

31-01-2009, 10:31

BubsNo1

31-01-2009, 11:08

Hey mums & bubs, how are we all this morning?

It sounds as though some of us need hugs!! :hugs:

Just a couple of things:

C-Section recovery: I am now on Day 10. Since last Saturday all I have been taking are a couple of paracetamol and 1 voltaren morning and night, and I am feeling pretty good I have to say. No real aches & pains. Just my belly muscles are a little bit separated (doesn't hurt just feels wobbly) but I will be seeing physio to sort that out after 6 weeks.

Breastfeeding & Birthweight: I have been having some issues with breastfeeding as well. I don't think my supply is meeting William's needs as his weight dropped more than the 10% and took a good couple of days before it started heading upwards again. We have home midwife visit again tomorrow for a check & weigh. Fingers crossed he has put on more weight. He should have done with all of the formula top-ups he has been receiving. I do feel like my boobs are a bit heavier this morning, so must do a couple of pumps today to express too! :yes:

Centrelink/Birth Certificate: We posted our forms yesterday to get the Baby Bonus payment and organise William's birth certificate. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to come back.

Childcare: We are planning on putting William into Family Day Care once he is 3 months. As this is when I have to go back to work full-time. I am already dreading it!! :no: But also figure it's good for them to interract with other children.

Weightloss: I haven't weighed myself yet, will do so on Monday morning (I just like to weigh myself at a regular time once a week) I will let you know how it goes, LOL - I also won't be doing ANY exercise for another 5 weeks or so. Just taking it easy, probably wait until after my GP/Physio appointments to get the all clear, than out with the pram I will be. :D

AFM: We are settling in well. I think I'm lucky that William likes to sleep the majority of the day. I normally have to wake him up for his 3-hourly feeds (poor little tike). DH has been fantastic, doing all the housework and changing nappies, giving formula etc. This morning I was up with William from 2-5am feeding and trying to settle, so I woke hubby up and asked him to give him a bottle and put him to sleep. He did as told and was back in bed 15 minutes later with William asleep in his crib :rolleyes: Why couldn't I do that, LOL

So that's probably about it, I'm sure there's more but you can only type so much.

Take care ladies!!!
Sheree xxx

tracynben

31-01-2009, 11:49

hi everyone hope u all ok
well im absolutely shattered. Stupid party last nite, there must have been at least 100 people there, and the music was way too loud, it kept jayden awake and took me 4 hours to eventually settle him to sleep. SO i was awake till 2am, then i woke at 5am, nodded back till 6am when jayden woke, then ben was up after that.
Neighbours and their guests so inconsiderate, even thou they turned the music off at 12, like they agreed, they still made lots of noise till 2am. Rich ended up goin out and tellin them to be quiet and clear off, hes thinkin of complainin about them.

apart from that things not goin too bad with jayden eatin and sleepin, thats all he does. I really need to give him a bath, i just havent got chance to do it yet which is really bad.

tracy xxxxxxxx

bootiful

31-01-2009, 15:16

Exercise - I have a week and a bit till my 6 week check up so Ill be making sure I ask then about it. Last time I was running at 5 weeks...crazy! This recovery has been a lot longer and a lot more painful. Damn scar getting infected.

Weight Loss - Im down 19.5 kilos. Ive been eating exceptionally well, so Im really happy with it. Im down to 85.5 (was 105 at the end of pregnancy), so I still have 20.5 kilos to lose. So much! But im very motivated this time.

I haven't weighed myself yet..MONDAY...Monday is the day! Will be scary :eek:

Centrelink/Birth Certificate: We posted our forms yesterday to get the Baby Bonus payment and organise William's birth certificate. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to come back.

I sent my forms in yesterday. I forgot how annoying all this paperwork was :banghead:

AFM - im feeling resonably good. The clot seems to be getting smaller and less hard so thats a good sign, still on my large concoction of tablets though YUK!

Having dinner out with the Perth BubHub girls tonight which I'm so looking forward too. DH got ****ty when I said I was driving and even more ****ty when I said I was taking Nicole with me...he told me to express a few bottles and leave her at home....

Well, Id better go dust the cobwebs and spiders off the pram so I can use it tonight, then its a nana nap for me...bye ladies xox

missmum05

01-02-2009, 08:42

Hey Girls

Sorry haven't been online for a little while, been having a few problems breastfeeding Imogen and have had the midwife out everyday to help me with no luck :( When she was born she was going great on the boob while I had colostrum and than after my milk came on she went ok the first couple days and than since monday last week she has been fussing around every feed and won't latch on properly and stay on the boob to feed. It has taken me like 1.5 - 2 hrs each feed off fussing around going on the boob and pulling off until I have given up and given her a bottle of expressed bm. And I been in so much pain because she hasn't fed proplerly and my boobs are so full, so I been expressing my milk constantly. Anyway on tuesday I could only express 80mls by totally emptying my boobs but Imogen has been having 100ml every feed so I been having to top her off with formula, and than wed came and I could only express 20mls thats it no more :crying: so the midwife thinks because imogen hasnt been feeding and latching on properly I had started loosing my supply! Anyway now one of my boobs is totally dried up and soft and the other one is infected (been to doctor and have mastitis in my right boob and now on antibiotics for 10 days) and because I can barely get any milk out of my boobs to feed her the doc has given me kripton to dry up the last of my milk and she is now on formula:crying:
I am pretty disappointed because i really wanted to bf this time after having not much luck with dd1 and now it's failed again so been a bit upset.
Besides that I am going well, recovering from my cs and Imogen is such a happy baby :)

Weight - well I only gained 10kg the whole pregnancy and after 6 days having Imogen all the weight has come off :smiliedance: I am still in shock and cannot believe it! After having dd1 I had gained 26 kg and only lost 8kg and was stuck with an extra 18kg and than this time...all gone!!!I do still have a bigger flabby belly but most of my clothes fit :-)

tracynben

01-02-2009, 09:21

:hugs:MISSMUM

dont beat urself up if the bf doesnt work out, what you have to remember is its more imprtant to have a happy mum and baby rather than strugglin with bf and both bein miserable and unhappy.
Thats why i decided to give up and bottlefeed, it just wasnt workin, and i was so emotional. You just have to do what you think is best, and at least you have tried. I know its hard esp when you want to do it, but you feel better if your happier and both sleeping.

As for me not too much going on, got a bit more sleep last nite, jayden slept from 12.30am-4.30am, longest at night, so thats good.
I really gotta give him a bath today, its just he normally falls asleep after havin his bottle and i dont like to disturb him.

We got our medicals next week for immigration, and the week after. Then have to wait for police checks to come back, and jaydens passport, fill out form and send off so hopefully within a couple of months we will be residents.

tracy xxxxxx

BubsNo1

01-02-2009, 10:26

Morning ladies :wave:

I haven't weighed myself yet..MONDAY...Monday is the day! Will be scary :eek:

AFM - im feeling resonably good. The clot seems to be getting smaller and less hard so thats a good sign, still on my large concoction of tablets though YUK!

Angel - Monday is D-Day for me too, LOL. Good to hear you are doing much better now :yes:

Sorry haven't been online for a little while, been having a few problems breastfeeding Imogen and have had the midwife out everyday to help me with no luck.

Weight - well I only gained 10kg the whole pregnancy and after 6 days having Imogen all the weight has come off.

Missmum - I'm sorry that BF hasn't worked out for you this time around :hugs:I'm still having some issues with this myself, so a bit touch & go here too. Congrats on loosing your pregnancy weight though :yelclap:

As for me not too much going on, got a bit more sleep last nite, jayden slept from 12.30am-4.30am, longest at night, so thats good.

hopefully within a couple of months we will be residents.

Tracy - That's great to hear Jayden is being a good boy and hopefully all your immigration details get settled soon! :yes:

AFM - Got midwife visit shortly, fingers crossed he has put on weight! I have noticed we have been having to give him more formula top-up after every second BF. Could it be the formula making him spew more? And he hasn't had poos since very early Friday morning. Poor little bugger. But he does seem content so it can't be giving him too much grief yet!

Byes for now,
Sheree xxx

bootiful

01-02-2009, 10:33

morning ladies :sunshine:

missmum05 - so sorry to hear bout your breastfeeding problems...tracy is right though, better you both be happy than miserable trying to keep it going...sometimes our bodies do fail us (don't i know it) but as long as Imogen is healthy that's all that matters.

BubsNo1 - not sure bout formula making him chuck more...hope he puts on weight.

Tracy - good luck with immigration...you know how i feel bout them...grrrrr...we are stillllllllllll waiting....another year has ticked over with no answer!!!!

AFM - had our BH girls dinner last night and it was fantastic, the meal was delicious, ice-cream was sooo yummy...and the company was fantastic! Was nice to get back to doing normal stuff again and it was Nicole's first outing on our own and she was soooo good, even when passed round for cuddles, she loved it!

My left nipple has healed so no more shield :smiliedance: Also Nicole slept for 8hours again last night, i hope this keeps up so she will grow and i will get lots of sleep to get better.

Gonna be 36 here today so just staying inside i think, was gonna do gardening but i can't be arsed...ill just finish the washing and then play Wii :D

Hope you all have a good day! Bye xox :wave:

Incy Wincy

01-02-2009, 11:57

Hi everyone,

MissMum - I too was disappointed when BF didn't work out with DS1. But as the other ladies have said if it's not working out and it's making you unhappy you've done the right thing.

My nipples are a bit sore from BF and I've been trying to research some info to make sure I improve my latch. The MW's at hospital said it looked like I was getting bub on properly and I put down initial soreness to getting my nips used to BF but now it's getting on to nearly 3 weeks I think my latch on needs improving. I also find one boob easier than the other. I'll chat to the MHN this week and get her to check and advise. Some ladies make BF look so easy. Wish I could be like them. I hope it works out but like we've already said if it starts stressing me out I'm happy to change to formula. Expressing has helped too and luckily bubs has been taking a bottle of EBM without any fuss.

It's strange to have such limited time now and working around feeding.I just hope my boobs feel better soon so I'm more relaxed about feeding out and about.

Hope you're all not too tired and enjoying your bubs.

BubsNo1

01-02-2009, 13:32

Hello again,

Well the home midwife has been and William has put on 70 grams in 2 days and now weighs 4080g!! So he is back to within 10% of his birthweight. :yelclap: I know it's not much but any increase is good!

Now the next hurdle is finding out if his legs need splints :no: We have a hospital appointment on Tuesday morning for an ultrasound on his hips. The docs were a bit concerned about the stiffness and are saying his hips might not be in the sockets correctly. So if that is the case they will need to be re-aligned and have splints put on to keep his legs straight. And the midwife today said generally they are kept on for a minimum of one month and no baths are allowed only sponging!! :crying: My poor baby, I really hope his legs are fine and it is just general stiffness or something that will just go away in time!! :fingerscrossed:

And apparently I have to get this script for the drug to increase my milk supply ASAP. So need to go to GP first thing tomorrow morning *sigh*

But other than that all is good. William seems in good health so that's the main thing.

Take care everyone and enjoy those bubbas,
Sheree xxx

BellyFruit

01-02-2009, 14:22

oh man, i think little Chace is constipated... bummer... he was fussing all night last night and howling and screaming in pain if we laid him down on his back :confused: and just kicking his little legs and grunting etc - i burst into tears at one point at my little man in so much pain :crying: - DH was fantastic, took Chace to the loungeroom so i could sleep and stayed up with him for 2 hours until he finally fell asleep - he woke up again for a feed 2 hours later and wouldnt settle again as his tummy was sore and i ended up sleeping with him next to me (on my side of the bed, not between me and DH) and slept him on his tummy as he seemed to like that and would NOT lie on his back without screaming... felt a bit bad about it as I know you're not supposed to co-sleep or sleep bubs on their tummies, but there was just no other way he was going to go down... he's out like a light today poor thing must be tired :rolleyes: oh yeah, so are mum and dad, and poor daddy has to work tonight... Any tips for helping him poo again? Going to try a warm bath and a tummy massage when he wakes up...

Sorry to hear there's some BF issues for some of you, I'm lucky things are going well for us - hope it continues as i really enjoy it. However, if he was on a bottle maybe mum and dad could go out for dinner?! Nah, I can wait... :)

Had a "meet the new baby" bbq lunch yesterday - was chaotic but really nice to have people dropping in all afternoon and gooing and gahing over Chace :p...

Take care, got more visitors over (I'm so naughty popping in here right now!)...

TMD x :flowerz:

bootiful

01-02-2009, 16:35

And apparently I have to get this script for the drug to increase my milk supply ASAP. So need to go to GP first thing tomorrow morning *sigh*

I lovely friend of mine (Goose) baked me some yummy lactation cookies that you might wanna try out.

Here is the recipe http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=29207&highlight=lactation+cookies+housepoets

BellyFruit

01-02-2009, 18:18

We have poop! :smiliedance: and LOTS of it!! Hoorah!!

PhillipaW

01-02-2009, 18:47

Hiya ladies,

Yay good to be in here.
Day 5 for us today, we got home on Friday.
Ezra's been a good boy, only ever cries when he's hungry. First night home though he woke every hour for a feed, think it's just coz it was a new environment for him. Last night was a bit better, only woke about every 2 - 2.5 hours.
In the hospital he was good, so hopefully he just needs to get used to being in a new place, hopefully tonight he'll sleep for maybe 3 hours at a time.
In the day he sleeps for about 3 hours at a time though, so I just try and sleep then.
Midwife came today, Ezra weighs 100g more than his original birth weight. He had only lost 4% when we weighed him before leaving hospital.
Breastfeedings been ok, when he first gets on it hurts so much, then after about a minute it subsides.
Well I'm going to have dinner now, he'll be awake soon and wanting another feed.

It's so awesome being a mummy!! DP and I are so in love with our little man.

Here's the link to his beautiful pics http://s725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/idunobye/

1stTimeMum09

01-02-2009, 19:55

hi girls just a quick one. No laptop at the moment so its a bit hard doing personals via phone. So hello 2 all hope you all are well. Ryley and i survive the melb heat wave okay he had a heat rash thats going away and slept quite a bit but doing well.

Take care girls. I am facebook 4 those who haven't added me.

Kirsten

tracynben

01-02-2009, 20:12

hi everyone
hope u all ok, im still tired, not gettin chance to get am afternoon nap. When ben naps jayden always plays up and is hard to settle, thats the only time i can nap :(

My scar is healin really well, and isnt causin me any pain at all, still get a shootin pain in my leg and back sometime thou, but the CHN said thats pretty normal.

1STTIMEMUM - sorry ur sufferin in the bad heat, its bad enough in perth today at 36 but its really humid.

PHILLIPA - great to hear from u finally, glad ur doing ok. If u havin problems with sore boobs ask ur midwife aboout it, she can give u some advice.

TDM - dont worry about puttin chace to sleep on his tummy and co sleepin with him, stuff what the experts say, ur his mum and u know whats best for him, as long as u know hes safe, then there is nothin wrong with it.
we all have times when we need to bring them in bed with us, sometimes they need that extra comfort.
Have u tried gripe water for bad wind, i use to use it with ben, just worth a try.
As for constipation, they say try water, diluted orange or prune juice to relief it.

BUBSNO1 - poor little man about his legs, i really hope hes gonna be ok, but if it will make him better thats the main thing. :hugs: to u

INCY WINCY - sorry ur strigglin at bf, keep at it thou.

ANGELBABY - glad u had a great nite out, an its good u seem to be healin so well after 2 ops.

Thats bout it from me, just cookin tea, and gettin ready for the new season of so u think u can dance, yay im so excited i love that show.

tracy xxxx

Cordelia

01-02-2009, 20:21

Helloooo how are bubs going with the heat?

Mmm I'm starting to hate Sunday nights with the prospect of a whole week without DH here in the day. It makes me tired just thinking about it!! And he's going to sydney later in the week so he wont be here at night either!!! My mum has offered for me to stay with her but is that too wimpy!! surely i can do 2 kids by myself - thousands do!!

breastfeeding - daniel takes about 5 minutes to settle into a feed... kickign and sccreaming and scratching and struggling. Lovely!! It's fine at home because I know he'll settle but kind of embarrassing when I'm out and everyone wants to give me tips. :hair: (Actually, anyoen got any tips? I've ruled out let down is slow, let down is too fast, positioning..... i have no idea)

weight - not even going there :P (mine, that is! - not babies!)

nippples - are you trying lansinoh? (is that what it is?) My nipples were cracked and bleeding and coating that over them between feeds fixed them within a few days. It is SO painful. is there anything more painful!??!?!! (oh yeah, the whole childbirth thing.... hehe.... debatable tho!)

bubsno1 - i hope the appointment goes well. Don't worry about it - its fantastic they can do something about it this early and will go quicker than you know. my good friends' baby had this for 4 months and she's brilliant now at 2. (also she was the first crawling out of all our mum's group)

twinmumdee - thanks so much for the update :laughing:

Phillippa - ezra is GORGEOUS. thanks for the photos :) enjoy your little boy!!

Us - mmmmmm boring! went scrapbooking last night with Daniel whilst DH looked after DD and had lots of women fuss over Daniel.... and today we had a toy clean at play group (i organise very reluctant mummies to come once a term!!) and had lots of women fuss over Daniel. It's hard work!! "oh he's hungry" (no he's not. he fed an hour ago) "oh he's cold" (no he's not. its' 36 degrees) "oh he needs winding" (no he doesn't. he's just stirring from his sleep and will settle by himself.) Leave the poor boy alone!!! I know what I'm doing - he's my son!!! GRRRRRR!!

(I know they mean well).

missmum05

01-02-2009, 20:29

Thanks Girls:hugs: for your kind words about the bf issues :)

Anyone got any advice what to do about Imogen being constipated? she struggles doing a poo, she seems like she is straining and trying hard to do one but nothing:confused: any ideas?

jellea88

02-02-2009, 08:55

Hi Ladies :wave:

Have finally made it back onto bubhub!

As you all know Jaiden decided to come on the 21st after dealing with the hospitals huge stuff up on dates etc. so we told him he was being induced at 5 am and then the contractions started and 10:30 the night before and he was here at 1:21am.

was only in hospital for one night and then moved that weekend. Have finally settled into the house and now our lil man has a cold and slept a whole 30 mins yesterday so im sorry if this post makes no sense.

he has finally settled after a nice warm shower and tornado is happily watching movies on the couch.

now that i have made it onto here ill be able to catch up on everyone's lil bundles and do personals.

have a good day

Jess:flowerz:

BubsNo1

02-02-2009, 09:25

Morning ladies :sunshine:

I lovely friend of mine (Goose) baked me some yummy lactation cookies that you might wanna try out.

Hi Angel - thanks for the recipe! I have printed it out and will attempt to make up a batch. They sound delicious. I'm not the world's greatest cook but shall give it a go though! :chef:

Ryley and i survive the melb heat wave okay he had a heat rash thats going away and slept quite a bit but doing well.

Hi Kirsten - just wondering what did Ryley's heat rash look like? It's been as hot as hell in Adelaide too and little William had a couple of red dots on his arm yesterday (they didn't look like bites, more like small pimples). I thought that might have been a heat rash or milk rash? I think I've heard of that too :confused:

BUBSNO1 - poor little man about his legs, i really hope hes gonna be ok, but if it will make him better thats the main thing

Thanks Tracy, and good to hear that your scar is healing well. I'm getting bugger all pain now too, which is good!

bubsno1 - i hope the appointment goes well. Don't worry about it - its fantastic they can do something about it this early and will go quicker than you know. my good friends' baby had this for 4 months and she's brilliant now at 2. (also she was the first crawling out of all our mum's group)

Thanks Cords for your reassuring words! Also note I have the same problems with breastfeeding. Sometimes he will latch on fine and then the next feed he will fuss & kick about - and it usually happens when we are visiting Grandma, LOL :rolleyes:

Anyone got any advice what to do about Imogen being constipated?

Hi Missmum, one thing we were shown in hospital was to do some little exercises with their legs, like gently pump them inwards towards their chest. I was doing this on & off yesterday for William and last night he did poos!! YAY :yelclap:

Welcome back Jellea, hope little Jaiden is feeling better soon and Tornado continues being kind to her mummy.

AFM: I was so proud of my little man last night. He only stirred for his feeds at 11:30 and 3:00 and went straight back to sleep afterwards. I think I might have managed about 6 hours sleep, woohoo!

:smiliedance:

bootiful

02-02-2009, 11:30

morning :sunshine:

hi girls just a quick one. No laptop at the moment so its a bit hard doing personals via phone. So hello 2 all hope you all are well. Ryley and i survive the melb heat wave okay he had a heat rash thats going away and slept quite a bit but doing well.

Take care girls. I am facebook 4 those who haven't added me.

Kirsten

I feel sooo sorry for you guys in that heat..its bad in Perth but geez Melbourne is being hit hard...huge hugs your way..stay inside and hope it stops soon!

Hope Ryley's heat rash goes away quickly.

hi everyone
hope u all ok, im still tired, not gettin chance to get am afternoon nap. When ben naps jayden always plays up and is hard to settle, thats the only time i can nap

My scar is healin really well, and isnt causin me any pain at all, still get a shootin pain in my leg and back sometime thou, but the CHN said thats pretty normal.

ANGELBABY - glad u had a great nite out, an its good u seem to be healin so well after 2 ops.

sorry to hear the kids are co-ordinating their naps for you..hopefully they will soon. Im lucky that Nicole sleeps alot and Steph does have quiet time even if she doesn't nap.

My scar is really hard..like a long stick, and my tummy is itchy all over...but in saying that the actual cut is healed nicely, no infection which im happy about. My clot seems to be getting smaller and less hard too and the bruising is slowly going away which is making me happy, but my tummy is getting saggier....oh well...can't win em all.

I agree with the Gripe Water for wind...its worked wonders with Steph when she was a bubba...not sure bout the constipation..maybe ring your CHN.

As for me being up and active so soon after my 2 ops its got me baffled at how good medication works...i seriously can't belive how active i am....i really thought i would be slower at recovering...but im loving it...really not complaining HAHA

My mum has offered for me to stay with her but is that too wimpy!! surely i can do 2 kids by myself - thousands do!!

nippples - are you trying lansinoh? (is that what it is?) My nipples were cracked and bleeding and coating that over them between feeds fixed them within a few days. It is SO painful. is there anything more painful!??!?!! (oh yeah, the whole childbirth thing.... hehe.... debatable tho!)

Us - mmmmmm boring! went scrapbooking last night with Daniel whilst DH looked after DD and had lots of women fuss over Daniel.... and today we had a toy clean at play group (i organise very reluctant mummies to come once a term!!) and had lots of women fuss over Daniel. It's hard work!! "oh he's hungry" (no he's not. he fed an hour ago) "oh he's cold" (no he's not. its' 36 degrees) "oh he needs winding" (no he doesn't. he's just stirring from his sleep and will settle by himself.) Leave the poor boy alone!!! I know what I'm doing - he's my son!!! GRRRRRR!!

(I know they mean well).

I think if your mum can help let her..its not a matter of being wussy...if you can get some rest then get it...the more the better!

My middy's gave me some lasinoh and i found it worked a bit but my breastpads kept sticking to my nipples so i didn't use it as much as i should of.

I really feel for you with regards to everyone telling you how to look after your child..it astounds me that no matter your age, or how many kids you have everyone feels its THEIR place to help you parent....just do i what i do and say ' really, thanks...i didn't know that...ill try that.... and do it in a really sarcastic voice...then they will back off!

Thanks Girls:hugs: for your kind words about the bf issues

Anyone got any advice what to do about Imogen being constipated? she struggles doing a poo, she seems like she is straining and trying hard to do one but nothing:confused: any ideas?

again no help...ring the CHN.

Hi Ladies :wave:

Have finally made it back onto bubhub!

As you all know Jaiden decided to come on the 21st after dealing with the hospitals huge stuff up on dates etc. so we told him he was being induced at 5 am and then the contractions started and 10:30 the night before and he was here at 1:21am.

was only in hospital for one night and then moved that weekend. Have finally settled into the house and now our lil man has a cold and slept a whole 30 mins yesterday so im sorry if this post makes no sense.

Welcome back Jess!

Glad to hear your all moved..hope you having a good day!

Morning ladies

Hi Angel - thanks for the recipe! I have printed it out and will attempt to make up a batch. They sound delicious. I'm not the world's greatest cook but shall give it a go though! :chef:

AFM: I was so proud of my little man last night. He only stirred for his feeds at 11:30 and 3:00 and went straight back to sleep afterwards. I think I might have managed about 6 hours sleep, woohoo!

No worries hun, she added chopped dried apricots too which are yummy. Warning..they are very addictive..DH loves them too!

Good to hear your little man is feeding and sleeping well.

AFM - Nicole slept for 7 hours again last night...once I finally got her to sleep...gonna ask the CHN today bout her feeding cause she takes a bit to latch on sometimes..then pokes her tongue out...licks my nipple and sometimes takes hours to feed, getting on and off my boob over and over again. She spends most of the day sleeping but she has started having awake/active periods during the day now which is play time for us

Well the CHN should be here soon...so glad I don't have to go out in the heat today, but I have a GP check up tomorrow for my clot..fingers crossed he says its looking good.

Energy levels - well they are slowly going back up, cleaned the house yesterday and did the washing. DH did all the floors and brought the washing in and did his ironing which has been a huge help.

To say thanks im gonna buy him a Wii game he wants ' Call of Duty 5' but damn thing is out of stock atm so he will have to wait.

Ooo and I jumped on the Wii today when I woke up....did my Wii Fit stuff and started my weightloss journey..have set myself a goal of 10kg in 6 months which should be achievable...and guess what...im back to pre-pregnancy weight and my Wii fit age is 26 and im 28 this year :smiliedance:

well enough cr@p bout me...enjoy your day ladies and ill jump back on when the CHN has gone and let you know how Nicole is going..hope she has put on weight!

earthfairy

02-02-2009, 12:22

tracynben

02-02-2009, 12:52

hi everyone
just a quick post while i get a spare few seconds.
Today is my first day on my own, and its going terrible.
Jayden woke at 6.45am, and has been so unsettled ever since, its been 5 hours now and i still cant get him to sleep, i dont know what to do, i have tried everything.
I have had to totally ignore ben all day, which i feel so guilty about, i been cryin and am totally peed off.
great hes cryin again, arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

tracy xxxxx

bootiful

02-02-2009, 13:05

Hello beautiful ladies:wave:

Finally i am able to have a spare 5 seconds to get on here & check how you all are!

I've Missed You All!:hugs:

Josh is back to work today so its just me Poppy & the dog & cat at home for the first time.
I have to admit it is a little strange.

The midwife just left after our second check up - Poppy now weighs 4.916kgs!!!
Her birth weight was 4.370kgs, so she is plodding along nicely....my little chubba bubba.

Im sending big hugs to those of you having BF troubles. I know how you feel.
Poppy had no interest what so ever in boobie & i struggled & struggled to get her to latch on. It was truely heartbreaking! I was so hard on myself especially after ending up with a c-section & then not being able to breast feed - what a failure i thought i was! BUT IM NOT & Neither are any of you wonderful mummies!
These babies need nutrition & it doesnt matter a rats bum where it comes from!

Anyhoo, Poppy is due for a feed now so i better scoot.....(its only taken me over an hour to type this! lol) Hope to be back on here more now i have the house to myself...i sure have missed you ladies....

EF x:hugs:

PS: Sorry for no personals, i couldnt keep up with the past million pages if i tried!
Luff u all! x

Hi chicky...good to see ur back!

Poppy is looking soooooooooooo cute....& luv ur new do...miss the blonde though.

hi everyone
just a quick post while i get a spare few seconds.
Today is my first day on my own, and its going terrible.
Jayden woke at 6.45am, and has been so unsettled ever since, its been 5 hours now and i still cant get him to sleep, i dont know what to do, i have tried everything.
I have had to totally ignore ben all day, which i feel so guilty about, i been cryin and am totally peed off.
great hes cryin again, arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

tracy xxxxx

:hugs: trac....i can't offer any advice on the sleep issue as im not having that problem (hate me if you must)......all i can say is it will get better....maybe he is just a crier:( Maybe ring ur CHN or Ngala for advice....and do the settling checklist...that's all you can do.

AFM - CHN just left.....Nicole is now a whopping 4.1kg...325g increase since birth which is great.

TheMamma

02-02-2009, 13:13

Hi ladies!

I have finally made it on here. Life with two kids under two is certainly busy!

I have not read through all the posts (there are too many!) so this is a bit of a me post....but I hope you are all doing well with your bubs.

As for us, we came home from the hospital on Wednesday morning.....to the worst heat wave Melbourne has seen in a century (or something like that). It was just hideous....not how you really imagine it will be when you bring your new bub home. We all slept on the kitchen tiles with a tiny portable air con that only cooled the room down to 33 degrees. Our power also went out for a few ours - so we had to evacuate and head to my Mum & Dads over an hour away....as the girls were too hot.

DD2 is just the most adorable little thing and is such a chilled out baby. She feeds well....she was already 100g above her birth weight at 5 days old!!! She sleeps well and our night routine is as follows: last feed 10pm, then 2.30/3.00am and then again at 7am. DD1 generally wakes at 6.30am - so it isn't nearly as bad as what I imagined it would be. Still....only early days yet.
DD1 just adores her little sister and walks around saying her name all the time. She is always giving her kisses and cuddles and it just melts my heart!

DD is sleeping a lot better now....and has (thank goodness) gone back to having a day time nap - after more than a week of crying hysterically when put down for a nap.

Dh went back to work yesterday - so I feel good about getting into a routine again and working out how our little family will run. I start work again on Monday (sigh) but I am really not sure how it will go....

Okay, enough from me. I will try to get on more so I can reply to individual posts. In the mean time, hope you are all doing ok. :hugs:

xx The Mamma.

PS. Here is a little pic of my gorgeous girl. I have more on Facebook too....

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc24/lejaba/DSC00543.jpg

*Sparkles*

02-02-2009, 13:26

earthfairy

02-02-2009, 13:38

Hi girls,

I'm just letting you know that I'm going to be bowing out of this thread. I don't feel that I have really clicked properly in here (same with the Due In Jan thread) and a lot of the time I feel ignored or over-looked. It's also hard at times to regularly keep up with a thread due to time restraints and even harder when you don't feel like you belong.
I am subscribed to several other threads here and on other forums which also take up a lot of my time so something has to give as I can't manage them all right now.

This is in no way a whinge, it's just me being totally honest about how I feel :)

Before I go, I want to wish you all the very best with your bubbas and to let you all know what great mums you all are

Ciao
Hels xx

Aw honey:hugs:

I totally understand if you must leave us *sniff*:( - seriously, it is hard when you dont feel "in" with it. That is why i left & havent really posted since just before Christmas. I didnt enjoy coming on the hub anymore & felt a little ignored (even if it is hormonal! lol) & just couldnt be bothered posting. i felt that anything i did post got over looked or whatever.

Maybe you just need a break sweet?
Even if you dont need a break & feel this is what you must do, please know that i always enjoyed reading your posts & please know that you are always, always, always welcome in here whenever you want......

Good luck anyway hun, hope to still see you around in other threads maybe?

Big Hugs,
EF x

BubsNo1

02-02-2009, 14:17

Finally i am able to have a spare 5 seconds to get on here & check how you all are!

I've Missed You All!

:wave: Hi Earthfairy, glad to see you back!! Looking forward to catching up on how you & little popsicle are going.

Today is my first day on my own, and its going terrible.
Jayden woke at 6.45am, and has been so unsettled ever since, its been 5 hours now and i still cant get him to sleep, i dont know what to do, i have tried everything.

Tracy, I'm sorry that you're having such a bad day :hugs: It unsettles me as well when bubs cries and I don't know what he wants. But it's usually more food he is after!

AFM - CHN just left.....Nicole is now a whopping 4.1kg...325g increase since birth which is great.

Congrats Angel, Nicole must be doing very well indeed! :yes:

Hi ladies!

I have finally made it on here. Life with two kids under two is certainly busy!

Hey TheMamma, looking forward to hearing from you when you get the chance. I can imagine how hard it will be with 2 little ones to look after. My time is limited with just 1!!

Hi girls,
I'm just letting you know that I'm going to be bowing out of this thread. I don't feel that I have really clicked properly in here (same with the Due In Jan thread) and a lot of the time I feel ignored or over-looked.

:hugs:Hels, sorry to see you go. But remember you are always welcome to stay or come back whenever you want to!! :(

Just one thing from me: went to the GP this morning and got my prescription for the Domperidone and have started taking the tablets already. I'll probably wake up tomorrow morning with massive (.)(.)!! As long as they work, that's the main thing! :p

Sheree xxx

MummaFug

02-02-2009, 14:34

:crying: Hels - I understand that you want to leave but what am I going to do without you ??? You understand what I am going through as our kiddies are the same age :)

And our new ones are birthday buddies!!

Please pop in and let us know how you are all doing (although I think I now where to find you :detective:...thats supposed to be a detective but not sure a smoking dude is really appropriate)...

Take care :hugs:

bootiful

02-02-2009, 15:13

readytotry

02-02-2009, 15:29

Hello my fellow Jan mummies!

It has been too long since i posted, not since the day I went into labour actually which will be 2 weeks ago tomorrow, wow how time flies!

So I guess I better first fill you in on my birth experience... Brief version only.....

So I WAS actually having contractions that day and my hind waters DID break. I went to the hospital around 3pm where they checked me out, told me to go home and come back at 7:30am the next morning to be induced due to my waters breaking. Well I went home, had to fill up with fuel on the way home and had a massive painful contraction at the pump :laughing: so embarassaing... by the time i got home the contractions were 6-7 mins apart and hurting alot more. DH started timing them with me, and by 9pm I was having 60 second contractions 3 mins apart so we jumped in the car and headed for the hospital. At 11pm I was 3cm dialated and they said the baby was still in alot of fluid and offered to re-rupture the sac for me. I decided to let them as i knew it would speed things up for me.
So they did that, it felt great! But it certainly sped things up and intensified my contractions like you wouldnt believe! After only 20 mins pushing my darling girl Eve was born at 2:52am.
No epidural (all though I did want it at one stage), loved the gas, made me a little delirious, the pethidine did nothing for me.
I did tear, 2nd degree which is only just now starting to heal.

Eve is perfect, DH and I couldnt be happier :)

I am however having serious breastfeeding troubles. She just will not latch onto my nipple. I have seen a couple of different lactation specialists and they have done nothing for me. They think she might have a slight tongue tie which may be the reason she just slips off the nipple. She WANTS to feed from the breast and tries so hard but cannot latch on and ends up screaming in frustration.
We have used the nipple sheild and she can feed from that, however she is never settled after a feed so I dont think she is getting much. So basically I now bottle feed her my expressed breast milk. I express every 3-4 hours, and I have plenty of supply which is great. I just expressed then and got about 180mls in 20 mins. Eve feeds about 100mls per feed and is pooping like a trooper!

Here is a photo of my little girl....

PHOTO (http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o137/pinkpetals000/IMG_1862.jpg?t=1233552442)

Sorry I have not replied to any personals, there are too many for me to catch up on! I definitley want to get back on here more often as I have missed you all.

I hope every one is enjoying their babies and you are all well...

p.s.
HELS- :hugs: to you hon, hope we see you around here every once and a while.

bootiful

02-02-2009, 15:41

welcome back RTT...Eve has a nice head of hair and looks so peaceful sleeping..but don't they all :laughing:

Hey ladies

i just read this in a pamphlet i got from my CHN.....

Because babies feel but are not yet able to think, they will pick up your feelings and become unhappy themselves if you are unhappy.

This can be inconvenient because if you fell upset it will be impossible to hide it from your baby - she will think it's her feeling and respond as if it was! So, whenever you are tired and frazzled it's a rule that the baby is hard to settle!

Just something to think about :sleeping:

Jelly Baby

02-02-2009, 19:19

HELLO RTT - I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU. :)

Welcome back, glad to hear from you again.

Eve is so precious, she's got lots of hair like my Bridie does.

Looking forward to catching up and sharing our experiences.

Thanks angelbaby for posting that info...very interesting.

tracynben

02-02-2009, 20:30

hi everyone

RTT - welcome baack, great to hear from u. SOrry ur having problems bf, keep tryin but if its not workin out dont feel bad, remember bein happy is more important.

BUBSNO1 - hope u feel better soon.

EARTHFAIRY - hi nice to hear from u. Sorry the bf didnt work out for u either, didnt work out for me, but im not feelin guilty, i tried and it was too difficult and causin too much stress, so i had to do what was best for the family and what was happier for us.

HELS BELS - sorry u feel that way, but do come back when ever u wish, we will all remember u.

THEMAMA - thats great things are much better for u. Bet ur so reliefed, u def need the toddler on their best behaviour while u got a newborn, it is hard work, esp when baby keeps cryin and ur tryin to feed toddler and stuff.

i think thats everyone, as for me, the day has been a bit better, i managed to get him to sleep for about 3 and half hours this afternoon, and i think hes gone back to sleep now, took a couple of hours thou, think its just been too hot, BUT rich has closed one of the vents on the air con and now its workin better again, so thats good.
Hopefully today has just been one of those really bad days, i know things will get better and easier, i think i expected it to be easier second time round as i know what im doing LOL, but im actually findin it harder.

tracy xxxxx

Logan&KodasMumma

03-02-2009, 06:38

Hi girls,

I'm just letting you know that I'm going to be bowing out of this thread. I don't feel that I have really clicked properly in here (same with the Due In Jan thread) and a lot of the time I feel ignored or over-looked. It's also hard at times to regularly keep up with a thread due to time restraints and even harder when you don't feel like you belong.
I am subscribed to several other threads here and on other forums which also take up a lot of my time so something has to give as I can't manage them all right now.

This is in no way a whinge, it's just me being totally honest about how I feel :)

Before I go, I want to wish you all the very best with your bubbas and to let you all know what great mums you all are :hugs:

Ciao
Hels xx

Hi Hels,

I'm gonna miss you girly!! TBH that's part of why I haven't been on here much too. There's stuff I want to post but sometimes don't see the point! I'm gonna miss you! But in the end of it all you need to do what is going to make you happy....:hugs:

Hi to everyone, I was gonna do personals but as we know our threads are always JAM PACKED, so I'm gonna say hi.

Koda and us are all doing well.

Muah 4 now

Cordelia

03-02-2009, 09:16

Hels I'm sorry you feel that way :hugs: and to the others as well who feel the same :hugs:

TBH I think there's just so many ppl. I dont expect to get a response when I write.... more just have the opportunity vent to ppl in similar situations! And if I dont respond to someone's post, it's not that I'm ignoring them - I really enjoying reading through everyone's experiences but time is limited enough!!

I appreciate you all and really value everyone's contributions. I'm so disappointed when I sit down and no one's written a post!! Because it's so nice to know that there are others going thru the same struggles and joys.

Speaking of which - i'd better get DD's breakfast ready for when she wakes up so i can feed Daniel. hmm nice!!!! (better get dressed first as my mum is arriving any minute and trust me she don't want to see me in my grundies 4 weeks after a caesarean. hehe)

mitty

03-02-2009, 09:46

Ashi

03-02-2009, 10:00

Hey girls thought i would pop in and say a quick hello
we are going well isabelle is still breastfeeding YAY! find out tomorrow how much weight she has put on so ill pop in and do some personals and update on how shes going tomorrow

hope everyones well xoxo

earthfairy

03-02-2009, 10:31

Hey ladies, I think the problem is trying to catch up with everyone and comment on what people have said etc. Cos I am having trouble with that.

Oh and trying to keep track of who is who, I was due in December but didnt really hang out in the due in december section.

At the moment I am really struggling within myself and my family. Im crying for no reason, because the kids are stressing me so much and being naughty mischeivious and I feel like I am going down and down. Im sick of not being able to get out of the house(cos I can't drive), I feel lonely, I feel so exhausted even though my little 4 week old slept very well last night and I only got up at 4.30am from his last bottle at 8.30pm. Starting to wonde if I may be suffereing from PND. I have huge family issues (not with hubby), I am at a higher risk cos of having a csection and the fact that half my family suffer from depression and the more severe bi polar, I lost my brother to suicide just over two years ago which has torn the family apart so havent had any real contact with my mother and step father and my younger two bro's.
I just think everything has hit me at once.

Kids are driving me batty--my 2.5yr old thought it would be hilarious to scream help me daddy out of the window til 9.30pm last night for no reason--then he was giggling his little heart out. My 8 year old brought home her homework (the first lot) and started her usual homework dramas of tears and carrying on cos i dont know why -cos she didnt want to write out her spelling words.

So im really having a down day and I need to vent it out here cos well hubby is at work and there is only so much I can text him.

I hope we all have a good day-i hope mine gets better. aiden is causing the least amount of trouble. So if everyone else wants to swap two newborns for my older two--im in!!!:hissy:

Just couldnt not reply to your post hun. Please accept my hugs:hugs::hugs::hugs:

I just burst into tears when i read your post you poor thing. I kind of relate to how you are feeling (except i dont have any other kids)

I ended up with an emergency c-sec after a 32hour labour. I worked so hard & was so disapointed that i couldnt do it!
I so hoped for a normal birth & am still finding it hard to deal with...i feel less of a woman iykwim? I feel that my body didnt do what it was meant to do & i feel like i have disapointed my DH also.

Im starting to question whether im even meant to be a mum....dont get me wrong i love my Poppy to the moon & back but it is all so over whelming that sometimes i feel i cant cope & just burst into tears! Then 5 minutes later im all ok again.

My DH is in the navy & he goes back to sea on the 16th of Feb & i am sooooo terrified of being all on my own, how will i cope with a new born on my own 24 hours a day for weeks & weeks & months & months on end?
I have no family here & none of my friends here have kids so they dont really come over anymore.

DH is worried i will get PND because i have suffered depression many years ago & was on medication for it.

Phew....sorry that ended up being a rant about me! Chin up babe, pm me if you ever want to chat ok?

Hope my hugs reach you:hugs:

Shell31

03-02-2009, 10:37

Hi Ladies :wave:

Hope you're all well. Sorry to see you leave Hels but completely understand. I kinda feel the same sometimes. I think a few of us are feeling the same. I can't keep up with the personals & that makes me feel bad incase people think I'm ignoring them or only come on here to whinge or whatever.

I do read ALL the posts daily & really enjoy hearing about how everyone is going. I also appreciated the feedback from you all when I posted about Theo & the trouble with dropping him off at daycare. Fingers crossed he is better this Thurs/Fri.

I just kind of figure this is a place we can come & let fly if we are upset or post if we need advice with something. Also just to show our beautiful little babies off. So please forgive me if I've upset anyone by excluding them as it certainly was not my intention. For the last few days I've just been posting in the Due in Jan thread because my beautiful friend & SMS buddy Brummington is our lone surviving pregnant mum hanging in there. I'm so excited for her and think its so special we are all cheering her along :)

AFM - Daisy's doing great. B'f'ing is going without a hitch at present. She is still a very sleepy baby. I'd lie if I said that wasnt of concern to me. She is still having loads of wet & dirty nappies & is very alert when she is awake but she is lucky to be awake for 4 hours total out of 24 :eek: Not rubbing it in at all and like I said it worries me. It has been very hot though & I know that always takes it out of me. Maybe she is just like her dad & could sleep all day everyday in any conditions. She feeds every 4hrs usually but if she does a 5hr stint in the night she will usually make up for it after 3 hrs or so the next. She's happy & seems to be trying to smile more now. Its a crooked open mouthed smile that is more with her eyes then her mouth.. She's beautiful.

MIL is here until Friday & she has been a huge help with Theo. She adores him & he her which is so lovely to see & they often disappear into the garden or around the block. Grandparents seem to have all the time in the world for doing the teeny tiny things our toddlers love to do but we as parents often don't have the time for.. i.e a walk around the block of normally 5mins takes anywhere up to half an hour or more as she lets him stop & look at every bug, every flower, Talk to every person they meet & just generally wander at his own pace. How special is that !!!

Well I've ranted on again :ecomcity:.
Not even going to try personals as like I said its impossible to keep up at the moment with time not on my side but I hope everyone is doing ok & for anyone who is struggling at times remember its not forever & things WILL get better.

Love
Rachelle xxx

Shell31

03-02-2009, 10:43

mitty

03-02-2009, 12:12

Just couldnt not reply to your post hun. Please accept my hugs:hugs::hugs::hugs:

I just burst into tears when i read your post you poor thing. I kind of relate to how you are feeling (except i dont have any other kids)

I ended up with an emergency c-sec after a 32hour labour. I worked so hard & was so disapointed that i couldnt do it!
I so hoped for a normal birth & am still finding it hard to deal with...i feel less of a woman iykwim? I feel that my body didnt do what it was meant to do & i feel like i have disapointed my DH also.

Im starting to question whether im even meant to be a mum....dont get me wrong i love my Poppy to the moon & back but it is all so over whelming that sometimes i feel i cant cope & just burst into tears! Then 5 minutes later im all ok again.

My DH is in the navy & he goes back to sea on the 16th of Feb & i am sooooo terrified of being all on my own, how will i cope with a new born on my own 24 hours a day for weeks & weeks & months & months on end?
I have no family here & none of my friends here have kids so they dont really come over anymore.

DH is worried i will get PND because i have suffered depression many years ago & was on medication for it.

Phew....sorry that ended up being a rant about me! Chin up babe, pm me if you ever want to chat ok?

Hope my hugs reach you:hugs:

Hey there, thank you for your reply and so sorry I made you burst into tears.
You worked so hard through labour 32 hours omg, that makes you the strongest woman I know. I've only laboured with my first two and togethor that only lasted 12 hours all up.

I failed to even progress in labour when i was induced ten days over and having a caesarean doesn't make you any weaker of a person. The pain you experience after one for me anyway was way worse than a natural labour. SO be proud in the fact you experienced not only 32 hours of labour but had a csection as well.

I was given the option of having a csection or waiting for labour to proress for another 6 hours or I would of lost that option. I choose the csection option because it was the safest for my bub-he wouldnt of handled labour..

I would suggest you go to the dr and have a chat about how you are feeling. Im going to talk to hubby this arvo--i finally had the courage to tell him how i felt via sms. how modern?

Im planning on going too.

mitty

03-02-2009, 12:17

:hugs: Mitty & Earthfairy.. I couldnt not post after reading yours.

I to cry at the drop of a hat & am fine 10 mins later. Hormone's I'd say. I've suffered PND with DD2 and all I can suggest is that if the down moments last longer then the up times then you should definately talk to your Dr. I was so hung up on NOT taking medication that my recovery was longer. I did not suffer PND with Theo and don't feel like I will with Daisy either but I am always mindful of being ontop of my feelings & I'm under no illusions. If i'm not 100% I will be straight to the Dr for help. A counsellor once said to me when I was struggling with taking medication all those years ago.. Rachelle if you were an athsmatic you'd take the meds right?? If you were sick with an infection you'd take the antibiotics right?? Yes was my answer.. She then went on to say this is no different. Its not in your head, its not you being weak or not able to cope its a very real illness & chemical inbalance in your brain. Do whatever you can to keep your head above the water until you can start treading water again on your own..

Hope that helps
Rachelle xx

Sorry ladies have to do these posts one at a time---dont know how all you fancy dance people do more than one at once.

You totally make sense and so does your dr, will have a chat to hubby and talk about going to see a dr. Trouble is my dr is leaving and havent found another one that i feel comfortable or confident with.

Everyday I atleast get dressed and made up and have breakfast. Oh and ofcourse atleast get a shower in somewhere through the day. I had started walking my daughter to school--which felt so good but my bleeding started going bright red again-was brown and nearly gone---is that normal?

tracynben

03-02-2009, 12:33

i think we all have trouble postin on here properly now.
I mean i have 2 to deal with now, and as soon as i sit down at the computer one of them needs my attention and it can go on for hours sometimes.
I been havin problems settlin jayden in the morning, today the same, he woke at 8.30am and nearly 3 hours later i think ive just managed to get him to sleep.
This is not good for me, i cant work like this, i need some kind of rountine esp with havin a toddler to run arond after too.

I think most new mums have really bad days sometimes, and unfortunately some of us suffer PND, i nearly suffered it with ben.
I got really down after havin him, alot of stuff happened while i was preg with him, first i had a mc before him, then we sold our house, applied to come to australia and shipped all our stuff over, plus my mum n dad split up.
i cam to aus when ben was 2 months, and i got very lonely and depressed, i was on my own in a house all day with no friends or family.
This time round i wont let the same happen, playgroups start next week for ben, but i still really dont have any friends after movin to a new area a few months ago, i get very loney and i dont enjoy bein a SAHM. personally i would rather go to work , and enjoy quality time with my kids rather than be stuck with them all day and they do my head in, maybe that sounds harsh and i feel bad for bein that way, but it makes me happier and ben happier when hes at childcare and then i miss him all day and see hiim whn i pick him up.
i just get so bored all the time at home and until my scar has healed a bit better i dont wanna go out too much and put too much strain on it.

CRYING - i get very emotional sometimes and then am fine the next minute, its pretty normal after havin a baby.
Some days i really just do feel i cant cope with 2 of them.

BIRTH/ C SECTIONS - sorry to anyone feelin bad about sections mainly u earthfairy. I can totally understand how u feel, i have had 2 emergency sections now, and this time round i really wanted a VBAC, cos i dont want anymore kids, and i really wanted to experience a natural birth, but it just wasnt meant to be.
It is sad when it doesnt go as planned, my advice to u if ur feelin bad about it is to talk to someone about it, maybe go to a support group.

BREASTFEEDIN - sorry to anyone strugglin with bf. It is hard and it can be so physically and emotionally tirin, and there is so much pressure from people esp midwifes to do it. BUT sometimes it just doesnt work out, and its wrong that people make u feel guilty about it, to me the main thing is that the mother and baby are happy and healty, not where the milk comes from.

hopefully everyone will feel better soon, and me too. I am strugglin at the mo, and didnt expect things to be as hard as they are. luckily ben has been pretty good and i am just about managin to keep to his rountine, its just he ends up gettin ignored most of the day thats all.
I know things will get easier in a couple of months when i got more of a rountine going.
Im hopin to go back to work part time as soon as we get our residency too.

tracy xxxxx:hugs: to everyone

BubsNo1

03-02-2009, 14:48

Hey girls, sending out huge :hugs: to Mitty, Earthfairy, Tracy and everyone else that needs them!!

I think it's perfectly normal to expect that it will be tough in the first few weeks/months - I don't think it makes a difference if it's your first, second or third baby. Each scenario takes its own routines to settle into. And it's OK to cry at the drop of a hat, as long as on the whole you are feeling well then that's the main thing! (well that was my Dr Phil moment, LOL)

Hello my fellow Jan mummies! It has been too long since i posted, not since the day I went into labour actually which will be 2 weeks ago tomorrow, wow how time flies!

Hi RTT, great to see you back and congrats on baby Eve, she is just gorgeous!! :cloud9:

And if I dont respond to someone's post, it's not that I'm ignoring them - I really enjoying reading through everyone's experiences but time is limited enough!! I appreciate you all and really value everyone's contributions. I'm so disappointed when I sit down and no one's written a post!! Because it's so nice to know that there are others going thru the same struggles and joys.

I couldn't of said it any better myself Cords!! :yes:

I do read ALL the posts daily & really enjoy hearing about how everyone is going. I just kind of figure this is a place we can come & let fly if we are upset or post if we need advice with something. Also just to show our beautiful little babies off.

Ditto to this one too Shell! :D

Unfortunately time is limited, so it makes it hard to really post everything that I want to! :(

AFM: Went to hospital appointment this morning to have William's hips checked on ultrasound. He is 2 weeks tomorrow and it appears as though the sockets are correctly aligned although they can't say definitely one way or the other because he is still so young. So the doctor wants us to go back in 6 weeks time to get checked again. Hopefully by then the sockets will be fully aligned and growing nicely - and no splints needed!! Fingers crossed.

Got CHN coming out again tomorrow, so will let you know what comes of that. Oh and I haven't noticed any real fullness in my boobs yet but doctor said it could take 24-48 hours for those tablets to work at increasing my milk supply.

That's about it really, take care lovely ladies and your bubbas!! :goodvibes:

Sheree xxx

Ashi

03-02-2009, 17:19

Hey girls, bubsno1 i just wanted to say that i had to go thru the same tyhing with haley who was breech birthed, they told me they check all bubs who are breech, we had to take her for an u/s at i think it was 6 weeks, we where lucky n her hips where fine, so fingers crossed your lil dude is fine 2 :) big :hugs:i just wanted to say i know what your going thru :)

bootiful

03-02-2009, 17:20

afternoon ladies.

well this thread has become quite depressing i must say...some of you running away, some feeling left out or forgotten....not a happy place right now....sooooooooooo.....

thought i would do some personals to make you all feel special again :D

TBH I think there's just so many ppl. I dont expect to get a response when I write.... more just have the opportunity vent to ppl in similar situations! And if I dont respond to someone's post, it's not that I'm ignoring them - I really enjoying reading through everyone's experiences but time is limited enough!!

I totally agree, with so many posts everyday its hard to keep track of who is who and what is going on with everyone....im 100% positive no one is ignoring anyone on purpose. Esp now we are so busy with newborns etc..it will pick up again soon...i hope!

I'm so disappointed when I sit down and no one's written a post!! Because it's so nice to know that there are others going thru the same struggles and joys.

I was the same before Nicole was born...esp after a few of you ladies had gone off to have your bubs...it got very quiet in the Due in Jan thread and i felt like a loner HAHA

(better get dressed first as my mum is arriving any minute and trust me she don't want to see me in my grundies 4 weeks after a caesarean. hehe)

hey don't steal my look :laughing: i'm gonna make grundies fashionable again hehe

mitty - sorry to hear things are not going to well for you atm. its not easy when other kids are playing up and your at the end of your teather..i wish i could offer you some advice.

I do understand your need to get out of the house, im sooo glad to be driving again.

Keep your chin up hun, in no time you'll be out and about again and hopefully things will settle into place soon! Kids really know how to push your buttons when your down don't they.

Maybe you can get some counseling to talk through your issues, might help to get them out in the open. Maybe try prioritise some things in your mind.

Feel free to vent here anytime..we are always here!

Ashi - Glad to hear Isabelle is doing well and your still breastfeeding, keep up the good work! Will be waiting to see how much the little angel weighs now.

earthfairy - sorry to hear your still finding it hard to deal with your emergency cs..i feel your pain...my vbac plans went down the toilet so fast...maybe we can all try heal together...hopefully our gorgeous little bundles will help with that.

Please don't feel like you are less than a woman...Poppy is so cute and you helped make her and bake her and how she came out is only 1 part of the process, she is happy and healthy and that is because you did what you needed to do to get her out safely. I do understand what you mean bout your body not doing what it was meant to do...i often wonder why my body did what it did both times too..i guess that's the wonder of the human body, and something we will never quite understand. Maybe if you decide to have another child, things might go different next time. As for a NORMAL birth...there is no such thing hun..honestly...there isnt'...births are sooooo different for everyone and for every baby.

I cried when I read bout you questioning whether your meant to be a mum...please don't do that to yourself...you are a great mum, you love her, you care for her, thats being a mum...of course it is going to be overwhelming but it takes time...and in time you will look back and wonder what all the fuss was about. You are a woman and you are strong...and you will get through the tough times! I have faith in you! Oh and PS - you're allowed to have a cry, your human and your hormones are prob still all over the shop...i know mine are.

As for coping with DH goes back to work, you will cope, just take each day at a time, and if you need help ask for it. You will settle into a routine and you will feel more comfortable in time. If you need to ring your CHN or midwives at the hospital and vent your anger or have a cry to them, they will understand and can help put you in touch with people who can help you if your friends can't. It can't be easy without family, i know id struggle without mine close by....huge hugs for you hun!

Shell31 - i will have my fingers crossed for you too that Theo is okay this time with daycare.

Happy to hear that Daisy is doing well and you too are still breastfeeding.

Don't be worried bout her sleeping a lot, that's what babies do, it's how they grow, she will have more awake periods soon...and don't feel bad cause she is a sleeper either...i get the same thing...wow she is soo good, your so lucky blah blah blah...babies just do what they wanna do...

Glad your MIL is helping you out, makes things easier on you at the start. Sorry to hear your hormones are outta control still too.

......my bleeding started going bright red again-was brown and nearly gone---is that normal?

mine is the same....i think breastfeeding and hormones etc can make your flow out of whack...takes bout 6wks to stop i think.

tracynben - sorry to hear you can't get on the computer...i can't say i have that problem...if anything i have too much time on my hands...can't wait for Nicole to be a bit more active...Steph loves playing on her own too which I guess helps.

I hope you manage to get the kids into a routine, but don't stress about it if you can't just yet, it takes time and the more you stress the more they will stress you out..if that makes any sense. *HUGS*

I hope you make an effort to get out and meet people, cause staying at home won't make you happy and you will end up lonely....id love to meet up with you some time. There are a lot of great mums down your way too that would love to catch up with you!

Sorry to hear you don't enjoy being a SAHM but honestly its not for everyone, i miss work too but i don't wanna be away from my kids for a minute...maybe you can find a compromise, maybe work at nights, or just 1-2 days a week to get your sanity back. If mummy's not happy the kids won't be happy so you must look at the overall picture.

I hope your scar heals quickly and you can get out and about again, im glad mine is healed well and im soooo happy to be driving again.

If you and others in WA want help with your csection healing process i suggest you get in contact with Birthrites..they are a bunch of lovely ladies who all share their experiences and help you learn to heal and move past them.

BubsNo1 - i am praying that William's hips are better and he doesn't have any further problems.

I hope the bf tablets work for you..let us know how you go. My supply seems to be settled, just enough for her feeds and not engorged like last time..thank god...it hurt like hell last time and i was leaking everywhere.

To everyone else - hope you are all doing well and drop by soon!

AFM - doing well, had my check up at the GP today for my clot. He told me that it was the Herperin (sp) injections in my tummy that caused the clot..im soooo angry..why did i need them? why did they keep giving them to me? i was on clixain (sp) too so why did i need both. I think i might ring the hospital and query it cause its gonna bug me to death if i don't find out.

Nicole had a broken sleep last night, she seemed really hungry and fed for ages and then was cranky to settle, but she has had a long sleep today and slept the whole time i was at the shops.

Steph is starting to get a little annoying with always say ' hello nicole' and then kissing and hugging her. She wakes her up, or hovers over her cradle trying to cuddle her. I need her to realise their is a time and place for it, not when she is sleeping in her cradle..oh well...i guess its better than her hating her.

Steph is in daycare tomorrow so im gonna go food shopping with Nicole...will be nice to get out just the 2 of us again.

Hope you've all had a good day! Dinner time soon so better go start getting it ready...bye xox

BellyFruit

03-02-2009, 20:33

hi guys! sorry to see the thread take a bit of a downer - i read every day but like everyone else justsometimes too busy to post,though i think of so many things to say then Chace will need me etc...

speak of thedevil...

GoneBatty

03-02-2009, 20:50

aww dear :hugs: needed all round in here...

I do understand how alot of u are feeling tho i get on here read everything and then have not alot of time to post so its always quick n usually bugger all personals and coz its only a quick posting usually gets skimmed over. I have also felt like i dont fit in around here but will stick around coz we are all in the same situations we can vent and give advice etc.

hope everyone starts cheering up soon, newborns can be hard work and for those of us with young children and toddlers makes for even less time. But do try and stay with us in here im sure everyone would miss anyone who disappears

ok thats all i can manage for now, off to bed for me.

chins up lovelies

justmum

03-02-2009, 20:56

Hi girls, I am home. What's going on? Is this thread a bit sad at the moment? Maybe I can cheer you up with a little labur story.

So my labour with Olive was 8 hours in total - 4 hours established. I had a few puffs of gas but no epi. And as I am quite a chatty person, you can guess I was pretty vocal during labour.

We all get things we like to harp on about during labour - some people swear (the F word is a bit favourite for some) but not me. No. I decided to fixate on poo.

I can't tell you how many times I said (yelled) "I don't want to poo" during labour. Maybe a 100? Pood anyway. :laughing:

So that's my silly JM story for the day.

We got home at midday today and I am already finding it hard. Hugo is still a baby himself and I feel like I can't cope well because Olive doesn't want me to put her down. BF is going quite badly despite my best intentions so I am a bit blue but I am just trying to get through each day as best I can.

What I want to say to all of you, as someone who did this a very short time ago, is that it's so normal to feel overwhelmed, sad and upset about things. It's OK to cry and bed stressed.

Just try and take some time for you each day and not take it all too seriously. As much as we all wish we could be, no one is perfect. There isn't any need to try and be perfect.

I have realised this as I have been killing myself over BF and it's now struck me that I can't. I'm doing my best but I can't force it to work by sheer will alone.

Be gentle to yourselves ladies - we all have brand new babies. It's a hard job.

honeydew

03-02-2009, 21:54

Sounds like lots of hugs are needed in here :hugs: Hels, I'm sad to see you leave this thread but I know I'll get to keep chatting to you anyway :D

Kirsty- I felt so sad reading your post because I know exactly how you feel :hugs:

I had a very long and traumatic birth with Mason (38 hours, 4.5 hours of pushing, vacuum extraction, heomorage requiring surgery under a GA immediatly following his birth) and then I was unsuccessful at breast feeding. THEN we needed fertility treatment to conceive Layla, I had a c/s because I have lost complete faith in my body and I still have some damage from Mason's birth, and I have REALLY struggled to establish some form of breast feeding this time. I feel depressed and think that life is so unfair sometimes because all I have ever wanted is to be a mum and I have had to struggle so much to get here. I never thought it would be this hard.

ANYWAY thats my whinge, thought I'd share it since some of you are feeling the same and I know you will understand.

I am also finding it tough to cope with 2, especially when DH is at work and I'm on my own.

BUT we have had a good couple of days and in the past 48 hours Layla has had only 2 bottles of formula and the rest breast milk :yelclap: So hopefully things are looking up for us in regards to the breast feeding.

Sorry for a huge selfish post, like everyone else has said I really enjoy reading everyones news and although I don't reply to everything I am always thinking of how you are all going.

p.s Welcome home justmum!

bootiful

03-02-2009, 21:56

welcome back dani

olive is gorgeous !!!!!!

GoneBatty

04-02-2009, 14:25

:wave: hi everyone hope we are all feeling a bit better today.

Ive had a terrible headache all day and have had some trouble with our real estate. Looks like we'll be moving sooner than expected! more stress yay!

will be glad to get out of here in the end tho this place is falling apart!

Ashi

04-02-2009, 15:03

Hi girls hope everyones going well
sorry to those who arent having such a great time but dont worry it WILL get better!!!
Well we went to the MCHN today and she was really nice (thank god cuz the one i saw with DD was a b*tch.. lol)

Isabelle has gone from 3405 at birth to 4470 OMG! i think i must have full cream milk or something haha.. but hey im so insanely happy that shes put on so much and is deffinately getting what she needs from my milk WOOOHOOO (4th attempt at breastfeeding and first time its gone past 1 week!!)
im so extremely proud of my body maybe i couldnt give birth to her naturally but i grew her inside me and now im solely supporting her growth on the outside 2 its pretty amazing that fact in it self really..

shes also grown 4cms :eek: and is well within the lines for growth so thats excellent

The only thing the lady said was that she has uneven leg creases and apparently its common and usually the grow normally but it should be checked in 2 weeks and might need an ultrasound on her hips to make sure they are fine, so hopefully they are...

has anyone else had this happen?? i guess at least as i posted earlier ive been thru the hip ultrasound thing with my DD who was breech so at least i know what to expect.. im going to try not to worry to much right now as she did say most of the time they grow normally and its not a problem so ill focus on that aspect of it till theres reason to worry!

ok so ill try do some personals! lol excuse me if i miss you i've been trying to keep up lol

Gonebatty sorry to hear about your problems with your RE hopefully you can move into a nicer place !!

MummytoMason glad to hear that your breastfeeding is picking up :smiliedance:

Justmum welcome home! and congratulations =) lol @ worrying about pooing i remember saying to DP b4 isabelle was born that if i had a natural birth i wanted an enema so i didnt poo lmao! i was paranoid about it

Angel i totally understand how u feel re: overly loving sisters lol, haley is driving me NUTS!!! she wants to help with EVERYTHING lol and everytime she hears Isabelle cry she comes running to "help" arghh lol
its lovely.. but not always helpful.. especially if she wakes her up lol but at the same time u cant really always stop them or they might get jealous/resentful.. catch 22 lol

Earthfairy.. aw hun i know how you feel ive had 2 c sections now and 3 failed breastfeeding attempts and beat my self up over it alot but in the end how they got here dosent matter you did a wonderful job growing your little girl from a grain of rice to what you hold in your arms now that in its self is an amazing accomplishment how you birthed her or how you feed her dosent matter you gave her life and now your sustaining that life in the best way you can your a wonderful mum :goodvibes:

Mitty im sorry your having a rough time with your little ones i hope everything sorts out soon =) as time goes by it does get easier hold on :hugs:

mumof4 or should i say 5! omg omg dunno bout over your side but ITS RAINING!!!! woohoo
catch up with u soon im sure xoxo

If i missed anyone again im sorry and big HUGS to everyone =) xoxo Ash

p.s i say we make a petition to increase the quoata of smiles in messages!!! lol i replaced all my smiles with =)'s to fit them in lol