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castlemum
24-05-2006, 13:46
So I'm after some advice, or reassurance or something, I'm not sure.

Basically, as the title says, I just am so confused with how to connect with DS. He's 7 in July and the older he gets, the less we have to do with each other. He's a quiet and sensitive child and has always been one to interact with himself better than anything, although he and his sister get on so well which is good. But I just have no idea! We weren't close from birth and then when I left DH back when DS was almost 3, it made a huge difference. When I came back, we were really close, and he was a lot more involved with me. Since then it has just slowly disappeared again.

I just haven't got a clue how to relate to a little boy. I was raised basically from age 4 by my mother, and for the majority of that time it was she and I, and that was it. So I haven't been around male children. I can relate to adult males, lol, I have many male friends, but I just feel the lack of parental connection with DS. His birth was the one I had PND with which added to everything initially but now I just don't know...I just don't know!

We rarely have conversation, usually he either gets sidetracked, stops listening, doesn't offer anything back or carries on in ways that just annoy me (rolling eyes, grunting like it's an inconvenience - and no I don't just take it when he does that). DH is actually having as much trouble as I am in some ways, both of us are getting a bit stressed about dealing with him. Dh though more sees himself in DS and that brings back less than ideal memories, although DS is more confident and outspoken than DH was.

Anyway compare this to my DD, who I get on brilliantly with! We are so close, we do things together, talk HEAPS, she wants to be with me 'everywhere I go' and asks on a daily basis, lol, we can cuddle and talk and kiss and laugh and do heaps together and I feel really tightly bonded to her. I can relate to her. She is also very different to DS and both DH and I find it easier to have something to do with her, as in she is a lot more upfront about wanting cuddles or time or conversation, and will get it from either of us, even if DH feels a bit out of his depth with a girl, having only had brothers, she runs the relationship so it still exists.

I start wondering if maybe I am favouring her but I also know that I didn't have PND with her, I had a better birth experience with her, I was more confident a parent with her and we were always bonded in that way, and DS and I missed out on that. They are also very different kids and she makes it easy by demanding the attention. And then I feel guilty that DS doesn't have that with me.

I find myself more protective of her than I was of him, more concerned about what ifs with her, more emotionally involved in her life and how she is - I don't know, I feel like she and I have a 'normal' good close relationship. It is only highlighted by the lack of that with DS.

Sometimes I just feel so incapable that I think about what it would be like to just have DD. That of course leads me to guilts for ages about it and feeling horrid for DS, and never wanting him to know I thought about things like that. I don't want to disappoint him, I don't want to damage him, I don't want to hurt him - I want him to have the close family I don't, and I want him to feel secure here, and I can't help but worry that he sees DD and I and feels left out, or that he sees it as me loving her more or wanting her more, instead of just me being unable to relate to him or find any common ground.

When I try to do something, he's just so uninterested in me, and so I try to have him and DH get close but he's similarly disinterested. I just feel like DS and I are on different planets. and I write it all out here because I'm terrified it'll cause bigger problems later, and I just don't know how to fix this!!!!

Funkychicken
24-05-2006, 13:54
What an interesting thread. I have the opposite. I have been tightly bonded with my DS#1 since birth but have always struggled with my DD. I often wonder how much of it is to do with my own relationship with my mother-not so good. I do work on it though. I have realised that both of our older children need differnet parenting methods. We cannot make what works with our DS work for DD. They are poles apart in personality.
I guess I have been working hard on 'making' a good relationship with her because I don't want her to grow up having a **** relationship with me. And as I am the adult in the relationship I see it as my responsibility to put in the hard yards. When I get one-on-one time with either of them, I try to be the parent that they each need which is often two different people. I have spoken to many mums who have these issues so don't feel bad for feeling this way. You're not a monster!:thumbsup:

nkenward
24-05-2006, 14:48
I think you have to find something he is interested in and join in, rather than him coming to you. So if his thing is Playstation - well you might have to brush up on your gaming skills.

Maybe he needs to get into a sport, if he isn't a social butterfly, maybe tennis. Go long and watch him and give him moral support. Encourage him. Then hire a tennis racquet and practice with him on another day.

Go on a weekend away with your children - go camping. Somewhere that you can have a camp fire, toast some marshmellows, go fishing etc. There isn't any other distractions - and doesn't really cost a lot.

Make it fun. If you want DH to spend more time with him - maybe get DH to take your DS camping - just the boys.

You might find that your DS sees how you are with DD and maybe a little jealous. Sometimes boys need to be boys - but need help getting there, and if you spending more time with DD it can be very hard for DS. Spend some one on one time with DS but make it boys stuff.

Cade's Mum
24-05-2006, 15:14
I totally agree with nkenward

If he is a sensitive boy then he will be very observent and be forming his own little opinions about things. If he sees a great relationship with dd and you, he may close off - try spending one on one time with him if you can, and give him time to come around he probably won't know what to say or do if he had alone time with you so maybe try and get to know each other over stuff he likes to do and make it a regukar thing so he has something to look forward to.

Good on you for trying to make the difference now before its too late. I hope it works out OK.

castlemum
25-05-2006, 13:59
thanks :)

He's just started auskick, which is a 'dad' thing for them to go to together, now that DH has most friday evenings off (he's a chef, which means I am the 'main' parent when the kids are awake, but he just started a new job that we hope will help - he works 6-3 most days now so he's home at night for them, and finishes early on sunday which is when he takes them both to the park)

I have set him the task of coming up with something he'd really like to do that is just us, he and I, and he's thinking on it, he says.

He's a lot like both DH and I as kids, a bookworm rather than a game player or sporty kid, so my contribution is to find a series of books and buy him one every few weeks, as his special thing from me. Actually, now I think about it, taking him to a bookshop might be an option as something we can do together, and let him pick out something.

I should also add, what helped DD and I was last year - DS was at school and she was home with me, DH at work, so we had HEAPS of one-on-one time, for a whole year - and when she was a bit older, whereas DS and I had that time in his first 21 months, before DD was born, and so he can't remember that. I guess this must happen a lot though with the older child, regardless of their sex - their one on one time with a parent is early in life, while the youngest child gets that time as an older child (well as a 4yo or whatever it is).

castlemum
25-05-2006, 18:24
The book and coffee shop worked really well. We had a wander down and looked through books, he found 5 (some quite small, others more like novels) and then headed for coffee (iced chocolate for him lol) and mudcake DH and DD stayed home and painted and had an equal ball.

All was good, he loved it and would like to do it again next week we had great chats and conversation the entire time, and played scissors paper rock over drinks lol.

All in all very successful, lots of fun!

EskimoMumma
25-05-2006, 18:28
Could it be a more serious issue underneath?? Hiding something that has happened at school or something that happened ont he way back or to school?? Or maybe he has a question or somethings changed about him?? It might not be you

melfunction
25-05-2006, 18:28
Have a lok at this site..It may give you some ideas

http://www.boysforward.com/

CJJHRA
25-05-2006, 18:38
I have 5 boys, and I relate to all of them different according to personality. My 10 year old though, is the hardest, while he loves his cuddles from mum, he doesnt like to show it.

I found my boys love me to sit and talk or read to them for 15 minutes when I tuck them into bed (yeah even the 14 year old loves me to have a chat with him).

great to hear you had a good time at the bookshop together.

My boys love their 1 on 1 time with me, but they dont often ask.

castlemum
25-05-2006, 22:51
Could it be a more serious issue underneath?? Hiding something that has happened at school or something that happened ont he way back or to school?? Or maybe he has a question or somethings changed about him?? It might not be you

I did think about this but when I think about it, he hasn't changed that much, he's always been considered a 'melancholy' - he's typically inside himself, reserved, sensitive, academic and well liked but tends not to show a lot of positive emotion. He's also gifted which leads to a whole other set of issues - he shows some Aspergers style issues that are actually related to being gifted which we've been reading about in the last 6 months or so.

I guess with school though, we just don't have that constant forcing of us together like we used to which did help our relationship when he was younger. We barely see each other through the week so there is that sheer lack of time together as well. Him as DS hasn't changed in his personality. School is great for him, he's studious and popular although he doesn't always play with the other kids, that is his choice, and he goes to the library and spends time with other kids in there. School trips are done by DH or I, no walking/buses (we're too far away and the only bus is public, not school-only and I won't send him on that alone, he is only 6) so anything that had happened then would have been involving us.