cervical cancer vaccine and ttc

[trixiebelle17]

What have you been told about the safety of this vaccine whilst ttc?

I havent had the vaccine because mid last yr when i enquired my doctor told me not to ttc as the effects weren't known. Since then one of my friends has had the vaccine whilst ttc, and another girl i know fell pregnant after her first vaccination and their doctors have told them differently.

I had always figured i would just have to pay for the vaccine later (or not worry about it as i have already had CIN3, so i know i already carry one of the dangerous HPV strands).

What have u done/been told?

[sexy_minx]

my gyno and gp both said it was fine to get even tho i was about to start clomid and was ttc, i got pregnant that cycle but it ended in a m/c nere 5 weeks, makes me wonder if its linked? i am now over due for the 2end shot and wont be geting it or the 3rd.

[MimiGrace]

I wasn't given any of that information (i'm going to assume because i basically did it through school...they're not going to explain to school kids how it will affect TTC now will they :laughing:)

I was just wondering if you knew (or it fit in with your speculations) whether it was just ttc while you were getting your shots (as in similar time frame) or that the shots would actually affect ttc? i got it done, but i kinda wish i hadn't because i didn't look into the possible side-effects of it at all :no:

[HunterzMummy]

well i got shots 1 and 2 and then stopped at 3 becuase we were ttc. I have been off the pill sionce october adn still no BFP. And it plagues me becuase someone said to me that they hope i become STERILE because she didnt agree with me having the shots :gloomy:

But im trying to no let that bother me.. I know i will be pregnant soon :sunshine:

[MimiGrace]

. And it plagues me becuase someone said to me that they hope i become STERILE because she didnt agree with me having the shoots :gloomy:

But im trying to no let that bother me.. I know i will be pregnant soon :sunshine:
:eek::eek:
what a B!TCH!!! i hope you broke her face!

:hugs: to you! hope you get your :bfp: really soon!!!

[Electric Rodeo]

What have you been told about the safety of this vaccine whilst ttc?

I havent had the vaccine because mid last yr when i enquired my doctor told me not to ttc as the effects weren't known. Since then one of my friends has had the vaccine whilst ttc, and another girl i know fell pregnant after her first vaccination and their doctors have told them differently.

I had always figured i would just have to pay for the vaccine later (or not worry about it as i have already had CIN3, so i know i already carry one of the dangerous HPV strands).

What have u done/been told?

I am the same as you with already having had CIN3 but I have never been offered vaccine etc. I suppose my damage has already been done so to speak??
Did you have surgery for the CIN3 and they just want to be sure it doesn't return??


well i got shoots 1 and 2 and then stopped at 3 becuase we were ttc. I have been off the pill sionce october adn still no BFP. And it plagues me becuase someone said to me that they hope i become STERILE because she didnt agree with me having the shoots :gloomy:

But im trying to no let that bother me.. I know i will be pregnant soon :sunshine:

Ooooh some people are harsh. I hope your super fertile and get your BFP soon. Good Luck:thumbsup:

[Electric Rodeo]

I wasn't given any of that information (i'm going to assume because i basically did it through school...they're not going to explain to school kids how it will affect TTC now will they :laughing:)

I was just wondering if you knew (or it fit in with your speculations) whether it was just ttc while you were getting your shots (as in similar time frame) or that the shots would actually affect ttc? i got it done, but i kinda wish i hadn't because i didn't look into the possible side-effects of it at all :no:

I can only assume the shot itself is OK when not PG or ttc, maybe it is riskier once PG so not encouraged then. Surely they couldn't do a mass vaccination of young girls only for it to make them sterile:confused: A whole generation will be missing
You should be fine MImi, and as a bonus should hopefully avoid cervical cancer.:yes:

[LeeJ]

first of all, hunterzmummy,:eek: what a COW! i hope you get your positive test very soon:hugs:


I had my first 2 shots, then dh and i started thinking about trying, so i didnt have the third.

I spoke to the GP in january this year about TTC, when i had the first one, and she said you want to have them finished at least 3 months before TTC.
So last shot, wait 3 months, then try.

DIfferent ppl seem to have different info tho.

I went off the pill for 2 months, and i think it was 3 or 4 months after the 2nd shot and fell, and he's still stickin, lol, so fingers crossed there are no complications because of the vaccine.

Good luck!

[grass is always greener]

I had received the first 2 shots and we then decided to TTC. We didnt even think about the vaccine. I stopped the pill and fell pregnant the next cycle.
We now have a happy, healthy (not atm ear infection) 5 month old. I have just received my third shot.

[ringneck]

My dr wouldn't give me the shots one cause i was ttc and two my ex gave me the strain of HPV that causes cervical cancer and he said it wouldn't be effective anyway so i guess it just depends on the dr.

[iMischa]

before each shot my dr asked if i were planning on falling pregnant in the next three months as they advise u wait 3 months after the last shot before trying. i waited three months after my second and couldnt wait any longer.

while i was at the drs recently tho i saw a sign saying as of june next yr u hafto pay for it! no longer free booooooo..

i was told as well that having the shots increases fertility for the months inbetween the shots.

[trixiebelle17]

Wow it sounds like most people have been told similar info to myself... It was kinda daunting cause it takes six months to have all the shots and then three months after to wait is a long time!

In my head i'm assuming the vaccine would only be of any assistance if DH split cause sorry to tell u ladies but i would already have anything he has :laughing:


my gyno and gp both said it was fine to get even tho i was about to start clomid and was ttc, i got pregnant that cycle but it ended in a m/c nere 5 weeks, makes me wonder if its linked? i am now over due for the 2end shot and wont be geting it or the 3rd.

Sexyminx, i'm sorry about ur M/C but i hope this one sticks!


I wasn't given any of that information (i'm going to assume because i basically did it through school...they're not going to explain to school kids how it will affect TTC now will they :laughing:)

I was just wondering if you knew (or it fit in with your speculations) whether it was just ttc while you were getting your shots (as in similar time frame) or that the shots would actually affect ttc? i got it done, but i kinda wish i hadn't because i didn't look into the possible side-effects of it at all :no:

Oh mimigrace im sure the shots wouldn't affect ttc, it may just be that they are concerned about what the virus would do to the baby if u were pregnant, much like u have to wait 3 months before ttc after having a measles mumps rubella shot. The government is trying to get this country to have more children, not to sterilise a whole generation :yes:


well i got shots 1 and 2 and then stopped at 3 becuase we were ttc. I have been off the pill sionce october adn still no BFP. And it plagues me becuase someone said to me that they hope i become STERILE because she didnt agree with me having the shots

But im trying to no let that bother me.. I know i will be pregnant soon

That is absolutely horrible... what a nasty lady to be against something that is going to help significant reduce the rate of cervical cancer.. I'm sure u'll get ur BFP soon, this whole ttc game is definately a game of patience :hugs:


I am the same as you with already having had CIN3 but I have never been offered vaccine etc. I suppose my damage has already been done so to speak??
Did you have surgery for the CIN3 and they just want to be sure it doesn't return??


I was told that the vaccine protcts against three bad strands of HPV, so having one strand doesnt mean that i have the others and the vaccine could protect against those ones... But as i said above, im married and hoping DH is my last partner so it would be kinda pointless, but i guess u never know what the future will bring

Yeah i had LLETZ may last yr... i don't think they allow u to 'wait' once it gets to cin3 as the next step is cancer and a hysterectomy.

Did u have the surgery too?


My dr wouldn't give me the shots one cause i was ttc and two my ex gave me the strain of HPV that causes cervical cancer and he said it wouldn't be effective anyway so i guess it just depends on the dr.

So true, all doctors are different. How do they know u have the strand? i thought it was really hard to test for? I hope it never decides to turn for you :)

[Electric Rodeo]

I was told that the vaccine protcts against three bad strands of HPV, so having one strand doesnt mean that i have the others and the vaccine could protect against those ones... But as i said above, im married and hoping DH is my last partner so it would be kinda pointless, but i guess u never know what the future will bring

Yeah i had LLETZ may last yr... i don't think they allow u to 'wait' once it gets to cin3 as the next step is cancer and a hysterectomy.

Did u have the surgery too?


Yep had the surgery in August, 4 months ago. They do get you in pretty quick with CIN3 don't they. My ob never really went into the strain I had or anything but seemed pretty confident he got it all and that I wouldn't need further surgery. I don't really understand much about it (the virus that causes it). I wonder if I was still all clear after I finish having children If I should have the vaccine. I am married and like you hope he is my last partner so their probably isn't any point is there?:confused:

[ringneck]

Trixie i'm not sure i had a pap smear at 17 got told i had one of the types that causes cervical cancer not warts and had to have 3 monthly smears for a year then 6 monthly last one before we started ttc showed that it cleared up by itself which is great cause DP and i used protection while i had it as i didn't want him to get it mine to go away and him to give it back, but i still have to have regular smears as it could come back at any time and be cancerous.
LIke you DP is my last and only partner so it would be kind of pointless anyway.

[sandy cheeks]

Trixiebelle17"I was told that the vaccine protcts against three bad strands of HPV, so having one strand doesnt mean that i have the others and the vaccine could protect against those ones.."
I too was told this i have a strain of HPV the cancer causing one not the wart one and ive just had my first jab(road testing for DD)of gardsil I also had the opp 4 years ago the Dr. told me its worth a go even though ive had the opp ect as it could protect me in the future.
Im not sure bout TTC i no u shouldnt get it while pregnant.
Also i no people who r married ect think there safe only sleep with the 1 partner but HPV can lie doormant for years in either sex (men just pass it on no effects) so just cos u dont have it now u could get it 10years from now and it dosnt always mean 1 has been unfaithful just thought id add this incase.
Good luck TTC

[happyone2]

I was told to wait 1 full cycle before TTC. I waited 2 just in case and got a BFP the next month!

[Tammy25]

Hi Girls,

Thought I would involve myself a little in this topic.

Cervical Cancer is a sexually transmitted disease. Something they do not openly express on tv they make it sound the same a s breast or bowel cancer...completley not the case!

If this is the case, those of you that are married, in a committed relationship where you only have 1 sexual partner, unless you are already carrying the virus may not be Susceptible to the virus.

If you research the vaccine, inparticulaly medical journals within America (as the vaccine has been available in USA for a number of years) you will find that their are some side effects noted but no one knows of the long term effects. My Dr is a general practitioner, naturapath and psychologist, she or her clinic (whom have a number of other Dr's and specialists) do not recommend the vaccine and when I asked to get it, basically told me I had to go to a normal clinic but they would not give it to me. After she explained why, I tend to agree.

I have 6 neices within the age of 11 - 17 who are all getting the vaccine, each have had side effects; flu, nausea etc. It makes me wonder if you are trying to PG or are PG, what the risks this has on your unborn child. :confused:

Not meeaning to sound blunt and negative but I think the more information everyone is given the better. Hope this helps with your decision girls :D

[trixiebelle17]

hi tammy, thanks for sharing ur views...

as you read through these posts u would notice a number of us have already had the HPV virus and are debating the same issues...

I guess the info i have read is slightly different to yours, as i believed the vaccine will only prevent about 70-80% of cervical cancer...and that U can still get cervical cancer even without having the virus, so it is not purely a sexually tranmitted disease, hence why doctors still want girls to have pap tests even if they aren't sexually active (otherwise my friends must be seeing some dodgy doctors!)... 80% of the population have the HPV virus already which is why they are targeting adolescents before they become sexually active. But in saying that there are a number of different strains, with the vaccine protecting u against four of the 'bad' strains, so even if u already have the virus, the vaccine may protect u against strains u dont have. I have found that the TV ads made reference to this but i guess i was already aware of the causes so was listening out for it.

I do believe Jess made a good point about the fact that the virus can be dormant so even with the same partner u may not contract it till yrs down the track. We also do live in a society with divorce rates at 50%, people have affairs, and relationships end due to other factors outside of our control.. I don't wish any of these things on myself or any other couple, but these are the statistics, and im sure most of the people whose relationships ended thought theirs never would at some point either...

In saying ur GP is a psych and a naturopath, i would double check those things... It may be true, but they are all areas which require extensive training and aren't easily crossed between (i think naturopath is four yrs fulltime and psych is 6) most doctors would become psychiatrists rather than psychologists as it a specialised medical field where psychology is similar but quite distinct and the training wouldnt overlap. U may find she is a psychotherapist or something of the like. As i said it may be true, but it seems a little odd to me.

[Tammy25]

hi tammy, thanks for sharing ur views...

as you read through these posts u would notice a number of us have already had the HPV virus and are debating the same issues...

I guess the info i have read is slightly different to yours, as i believed the vaccine will only prevent about 70-80% of cervical cancer...and that U can still get cervical cancer even without having the virus, so it is not purely a sexually tranmitted disease, hence why doctors still want girls to have pap tests even if they aren't sexually active (otherwise my friends must be seeing some dodgy doctors!)... 80% of the population have the HPV virus already which is why they are targeting adolescents before they become sexually active. But in saying that there are a number of different strains, with the vaccine protecting u against four of the 'bad' strains, so even if u already have the virus, the vaccine may protect u against strains u dont have. I have found that the TV ads made reference to this but i guess i was already aware of the causes so was listening out for it.

I do believe Jess made a good point about the fact that the virus can be dormant so even with the same partner u may not contract it till yrs down the track. We also do live in a society with divorce rates at 50%, people have affairs, and relationships end due to other factors outside of our control.. I don't wish any of these things on myself or any other couple, but these are the statistics, and im sure most of the people whose relationships ended thought theirs never would at some point either...

In saying ur GP is a psych and a naturopath, i would double check those things... It may be true, but they are all areas which require extensive training and aren't easily crossed between (i think naturopath is four yrs fulltime and psych is 6) most doctors would become psychiatrists rather than psychologists as it a specialised medical field where psychology is similar but quite distinct and the training wouldnt overlap. U may find she is a psychotherapist or something of the like. As i said it may be true, but it seems a little odd to me.


Thank you for your concern on my GP but she is exactly what I said she is, probably why a new client will take 6 months plus to get into her being such a specialist in a number of fields. I have friends that are emergency consultants who I actually asked what their opinions had the same response and for that reason have not had the vaccine either.

But thats the beauty of getting 2nd/3rd opinions everyone has their own beliefs and views which makes us human and all wonderfully different.

Deffinetley a topic more info should be provided to the general public for pros and cons on the vaccine though!:yes:

[Elestrial]

The reason everyone is encouraged to get the vacine is because even if you and your parnter are faithful for evermore, you may have had a partner in the past who passed it on, and it hasn't shown on you YET.
Be safe. Get the jab.
My GP gave me my 3rd the day we officially started trying. She looked it up in all her books first though. She said, no if your pg, but it's got no warnings or anything for preconception. Not even a 3 month wait. Interesting how so many different doctors have different information.

[PreggySiren]

The reason GPs (and others) have so varied information is because there are no long term studies on Gardisil. It is a relatively new drug which seems to be achieving a fantastic thing, but no one really knows what its future holds (other than, at the moment, all appears to be ok).

The decision to have the shots needs to be made by the individual, as GPs know about as much as we do right now.

Not too helpful unfortunately!

[carleena]

This is such an interesting topic with so many different views.

I personally have not had the vaccine as have had the HPV virus already and have had to have pap smears every 6 months since I was 18. I spoke to my GP extensively about it and she said that she would leave the decision up to me as I have already had a strain of HPV and will only have the one partner. My cousin on the otherhand is a naturopath and is completely against the vaccine and does not think there has been enough research into the long term side effects.

I also think that there is a lot of misconception about what the vaccine actually protects you against. I recently had an argument with a friend of mine who thought that it protected against "environmental factors" that caused cervical cancer. She had no idea that HPV was actually a virus.