View Full Version : Does this sound bonkers to you? Glad wrap in the oven???
Eek! I'm about to cook a rather smashing looking chocolate loaf (a Nigella recipe), and reading the instructions it says -
Line a loaf tin with clingfilm...... don't panic, it won't melt:confused:
This is for a loaf that then cooks in the oven at 170 degrees for an hour.
Now, I don't like to doubt Nigella, but all my instincts are saying "Don't be crazy. DO NOT use cling wrap in the oven. It's INSANE". The gladwrap website FAQs say it isn't suitable for use in an oven.
Has anyone else used glad wrap in the oven when baking? Should I risk it?
Shiraaa
07-11-2008, 01:58 PM
YES..Hehe, that does sound weird to me...
lukaelmo
07-11-2008, 01:58 PM
Lol, she should have said "don't worry, I absolutely ASSURE you 100% that it won't melt because of blah blah blah"... and then reassured you another five times at least.
I don't know... I'd wait to see if there's someone here who has done that...
TwoBlue
07-11-2008, 02:00 PM
It certainly sounds bonkers :yes:
I'd be too scared and would use baking paper... but then if Nigella says its ok....?????
floodprincess
07-11-2008, 02:00 PM
:iagree: with the others....I'd be very dubious about putting cling wrap in the oven too!!!
Knowing me though, I'd use baking paper to line the tray and try that!
My instincts have me leaning towards baking paper.
TwoBlue
07-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Go with your instincts..
It cant hurt to use baking paper surely???
2s'nuff
07-11-2008, 02:02 PM
I don't hink she means the everyday gladwrap we have in our cupboards. You can buy 'industrial strength' (have see it on a cooking show) that stands heat.
Lisa
NibbleCurlynBub
07-11-2008, 02:03 PM
Just turn the oven on and line the tin with clingfilm and pop it in (no cake) and see what happens.
If it melts and looks suss, stick with baking paper. :)
I don't hink she means the everyday gladwrap we have in our cupboards. You can buy 'industrial strength' (have see it on a cooking show) that stands heat.
Lisa
Ahh! Good point. Although you'd think she would have said that, wouldn't you?? Odd, she's normally quite specific about stuff like that.
Just turn the oven on and line the tin with clingfilm and pop it in (no cake) and see what happens.
If it melts and looks suss, stick with baking paper. :)
:laughing: And evacuate the house as the poisonous melting plastic fumes take over. :p
mochridhe
07-11-2008, 02:05 PM
I wouldn't be game enough to risk it! (As much as I adore & trust Nigella!! :))
I can't see why you couldn't substitute trusty ol' baking paper!
spoon
07-11-2008, 02:06 PM
Why dont you test just a bit of cling wrap on a tray in the oven and see what happens? It would stink too bad if it melts and you would not have ruined your loaf either. Ill do it if you want...
NibbleCurlynBub
07-11-2008, 02:07 PM
Why dont you test just a bit of cling wrap on a tray in the oven and see what happens? It would stink too bad if it melts and you would not have ruined your loaf either. Ill do it if you want...
That's what I said! :)
You'd watch it to see, if it starts shrivelling and melting, take it out and consider it a fail.
I would think Nigella would think about this when writing a cookbook, that most families don't have industrial strength cling-wrap around..
Hmmm. I wonder. I suppose it would be more likely to shrivel and melt without a cake in than with a cake in, so if it works without a cake, it might work with one.:detective:
spoon
07-11-2008, 02:08 PM
That's what I said! :)
You'd watch it to see, if it starts shrivelling and melting, take it out and consider it a fail.
I would think Nigella would think about this when writing a cookbook, that most families don't have industrial strength cling-wrap around..
Great minds hey!!!!
justmum
07-11-2008, 02:10 PM
I think it'd be OK. :yes: But if you have a fan forced oven I'd turn it down to 150 or do it without the fan.
NibbleCurlynBub
07-11-2008, 02:12 PM
I don't think it would make a difference, I think that like when in the microwave if it were going to melt it would melt into the food.
Yuck. :barf:
I think it'd be OK. :yes: But if you have a fan forced oven I'd turn it down to 150 or do it without the fan.
A ha! We have someone for the affirmative. No fan is good thinking.
mochridhe
07-11-2008, 02:15 PM
Look, you've got me curious now!!
Or decrepit old oven is not fan forced anyway so I shall go chuck some in there & see what happens. Stay tuned.....
(PS: Be assured that our cling wrap is the thinnest, cheapest, as-far-away-from-industrial-quality cling wrap you will ever find!)
Phyllis Stein
07-11-2008, 02:15 PM
I personally don't like mixing plastics with heat near food. And it's got nothing to do with melting. But that's for paranoid hippies like myself. :o
NibbleCurlynBub
07-11-2008, 02:16 PM
:laughing: We buy brand-name cling wrap and foil.. No reason.. But its nice to buy something brand-name. :p
Let us know how it goes.. :detective:
FishFace
07-11-2008, 02:18 PM
Bron..read this...
That hurdle passed, barely, and next came - "line the tin with overlapping clingfilm. Don't panic - it won't melt." Like HELL it won't melt, Nigella! What kind of clingfilm do YOU use? The IRON kind? Let me just say - MINE melted. Which means all the loving labour spent on the cake is probably totally meaningless. Right now, I have a ruined loaf tin (and I didn't use my cheap IKEA one, either) with a chocolate cake in it. It smells delicious (if you can get past the scent of melted plastic, that is) and it's probably completely inedible.
FRom here:http://annesfood.blogspot.com/2005/04/nigella-is-such-liar.html
westerner
07-11-2008, 02:18 PM
Yeh it should be fine..
Well it always was in the kitchens ive worked in.. ;)
I wouldnt use it in an oven higher than 180 degrees though..
What time is afternoon tea?? :p
justmum
07-11-2008, 02:18 PM
I personally don't like mixing plastics with heat near food. And it's got nothing to do with melting. But that's for paranoid hippies like myself. :o
Ooh that's a good point actually - the chemicals could leach into the food, even if the plastic doesn't melt. Hmm I might need to change my vote.
Thank you Fish Face!! Nice googling!!
I put some in for 2 minutes and it shrivelled up to nothing. Didn't stick to the pan, but shrivelled. So, I'll go with baking paper instead. :yes:
mochridhe
07-11-2008, 02:29 PM
:no: Don't do the cling wrap, Bron!!
Non-fan forced oven - 150-170 deg (I put it in just prior to it pre-heating completely) 2-3 mins with 2 weetbix wrapped tightly in Homebrand clingwrap on an oven tray.
:no: :no: :no:
The clingwrap has virtually disintigrated around the weetbix (but interestingly doesn't seem to have melted into them!). I haven't tried cleaning the oven tray yet..... lol
Nice experimenting Mrs Miggins.
Thanks everyone. Baking paper it shall be. :D
NibbleCurlynBub
07-11-2008, 02:34 PM
I'd be inclined to say the cleaning would involve paper towel and putting it back in the oven.
That would be awful to try to get off in a sink with water.
Why weet-bix..
Has anybody thought about emailing someone about this.. Surely Nigella realises by now that she has instructed everybody to make a cake and promptly melt plastic into it.. Right?
mochridhe
07-11-2008, 02:38 PM
Weetbix - cheapest cake-like substance I could grab at short notice.
Cleaning - proved to be easy as! Just let it cool & peeled it off with zero trace left on the tray! (weetbix did go in the bin though!! ;))
Well it worked well with baking paper. In fact, it was quite magnificent!
Turns out Nigella changed the instructions for subsequent editions of the book, suggesting the use of greased foil, rather than glad wrap. Serves me right for buying the book when it was so new!
Anyway, it was scrummy. :chef:
BoyCrazy
08-11-2008, 09:30 AM
hi, would you mind sharing the recipe? pweety please? :D
Loopy Linda
08-11-2008, 10:59 AM
i am sitting here laughing at the great big debate/discussion on cling wrap in the oven. i am wondering how long you were all thinking about it!, no offence intended to anyone, just amuses me... after i spent 10 minutes reading whole thread that is!
MJ410
08-11-2008, 11:47 AM
:laughing: I did the same thing Lindy-Loo.
And baylismum, sadly, she can't share the recipe because it features in a book... it would break BH and copyright rules and regs :(
What book is it from? I might have to increase my cook book collection!
chellegoth
08-11-2008, 11:51 AM
I think Nigella may have been huffing too much melted plastic when she wrote that!
xkwzit
08-11-2008, 12:32 PM
I am a Nigella fan, but she does suggest some whacky things. Like leaving a chicken (or some other large piece of meat) out on the bench all day and all night so that it is definitely room temp when you come to cook it. But when room temp can be 30+ degC??
Glad you got it sorted Bron. Even more glad that it tasted good :D :chef:
(I'm still puzzling over why one wouldn't use baking paper or foil in the first place?)
Cheers
mochridhe
08-11-2008, 12:39 PM
:laughing: I wonder if her kids have ever had food poisoning?!
Mind you, my parents were always ones for leaving meat out to defrost all day when we were kids (or worse, giving meat the old "sniff test" after it's use-by date to see if it was still OK!) but I guess we all survived! I often wonder if that contributes to my very good resistance to gastro!!
Lil Mamma
08-11-2008, 01:27 PM
I think Nigella may have been huffing too much melted plastic when she wrote that!
:laughing: I wonder if her kids have ever had food poisoning?!
Mind you, my parents were always ones for leaving meat out to defrost all day when we were kids (or worse, giving meat the old "sniff test" after it's use-by date to see if it was still OK!) but I guess we all survived! I often wonder if that contributes to my very good resistance to gastro!!
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
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What book is it from? I might have to increase my cook book collection!
It's from Feast. She has a rather smashing chapter called the "Chocolate cake hall of fame". This was the quadruple chocolate loaf.
I think Nigella may have been huffing too much melted plastic when she wrote that!
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
BoyCrazy
08-11-2008, 03:31 PM
And baylismum, sadly, she can't share the recipe because it features in a book... it would break BH and copyright rules and regs :(
What book is it from? I might have to increase my cook book collection!
thanks, i thought that mightve been the case after i put that post up!! :) will hunt down the book! :D
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