What looks better, circ - non circ.

[girly]

Sorry mods, can you please put in right section....

I think it looks better off. I know thats not a good valid reason to have the skin removed but who else agree's.

[workin'mumof2]

this should be in the debate section.

other - they both look like aliens :p

[Fuchsia!]

no its not a good reason at all. Its a horrible reason.

I like it with skin. Its natural. Whats more beautiful then natural?

[munchie]

this should be in the debate section.

other - they both look like aliens :p
:laughing: yeah i agree

I don;t thnk they look good either way lol

[BambinaCattiva]

I'm not in the habit of staring at penises.
I don't think either option is particularly attractive.

[girly]

this should be in the debate section.

other - they both look like aliens :p

Hehe, I agree either way on or off they do look rather weird..:p

Can I move it or will the mods have too ?

[NibbleCurlynBub]

Why is this in the Anti-Circ boards? :confused:

I, personally, like circumcised. But I wouldn't get my children done because of MY sexual preference. :no:

[gizmoduckus]

I have to say other as well. I have never seen a circumcised penis.

Even if I had seen one I think my answer would be the same as the others. They are all unattractive! :D

[Jakois]

I'm not in the habit of staring at penises.
I don't think either option is particularly attractive.

:iagree::laughing:PMSL.. I don't think i have ever seen an "Attractive Penis". They all look like, well, Penis's..

[SassyMummy]

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=177041

There is a link to a thread that I started a few months ago (sometime this year anyway). It has a poll too, so the results are pretty easy to see.

It was a tie between not caring, and preferring a circumcised penis. The aesthetic side of it anyway, I didn't ask about the function or any such thing.

My bf is circumcised... and looks great. I suspect though, that regardless of the state of his foreskin, I would find him desirable simply because I love him.

On adult males, which is all that I am interested in sexually, then how I feel about their penis depends on how I feel about them as people. If I love them, I'm going to love their penis too. No matter whether it's long, short, fat, thin, circed or uncirced. It's not a big deal.

On babies, I do think it looks quite strange when they're circed. Perhaps it looks more normal on a adult male to me, because a circed flacid penis looks like a floppier erect penis belonging to either a circed or uncirced man.

It looks strange, to me, to see that part of a baby exposed.

[Herchy]

All penis' are ugly, but IMO they feel better when they are still hooded;)

[munchie]

All penis' are ugly, but IMO they feel better when they are still hooded;)
hahah love the honesty

[girly]

http://www.bubhub.com.au/community/forums/showthread.php?t=177041

There is a link to a thread that I started a few months ago (sometime this year anyway). It has a poll too, so the results are pretty easy to see.

It was a tie between not caring, and preferring a circumcised penis. The aesthetic side of it anyway, I didn't ask about the function or any such thing.

My bf is circumcised... and looks great. I suspect though, that regardless of the state of his foreskin, I would find him desirable simply because I love him.

On adult males, which is all that I am interested in sexually, then how I feel about their penis depends on how I feel about them as people. If I love them, I'm going to love their penis too. No matter whether it's long, short, fat, thin, circed or uncirced. It's not a big deal.

On babies, I do think it looks quite strange when they're circed. Perhaps it looks more normal on a adult male to me, because a circed flacid penis looks like a floppier erect penis belonging to either a circed or uncirced man.

It looks strange, to me, to see that part of a baby exposed.

I guess the results say it then

[Fuchsia!]

I think the results show it for our generation. I think it will change when our children are older. I think that people will prefer the look of an uncirced penis over a circed one as non circ will be the norm

[A Party of Five]

I don't think either option is particularly attractive but I do perfer circumcised :rolleyes:

[PrincessDani]

I personally prefer un circ'd it feels much better - sorry i know its a little too much info but there's more there to do the job:o

[Herchy]

I personally prefer un circ'd it feels much better - sorry i know its a little too much info but there's more there to do the job:o
Less friction ;)
More to use to your advantage;)
:laughing:

[PrincessDani]

Less friction ;)
More to use to your advantage;)
:laughing:
hehehe thats what I'm talking about:o:laughing::D

[Teley]

Mmm I actually have to disagree about ugly penises. If it's on your partner and you love him....I dunno, it just can't be ugly to me at all lol.

I definately prefer an intact penis:yes:.

[Mamalicious]

Why is this in the Anti-Circ boards? :confused:

I, personally, like circumcised. But I wouldn't get my children done because of MY sexual preference. :no:

:iagree::D:D

[bronny-jane]

neither:p
but a piercing enhances the overall look:yes:

[Pax]

circumcised to me is more attractive cause i am a germ-a-phobe and keep imagining microscopic crawlies under that foreskin.. eww :laughing:

[Mamalicious]

Less friction ;)
More to use to your advantage;)
:laughing:

:laughing:

And MissPhantom, :iagree::yes:

[Mum&bubs]

For me personally, I much prefer them without the extra skin.

Just because I think they look better circ. though, I would never go out and get my son (if i ever have one!) done.

My DF has it done, and I really like it. But it's not like any penis is overally attractive in the first place :no:

[Herchy]

Mmm I actually have to disagree about ugly penises. If it's on your partner and you love him....I dunno, it just can't be ugly to me at all lol.

I definately prefer an intact penis:yes:.

haha, whoops! I tell DH that it's ugly. He agrees. They def weren't thought of in the looks department when they were 'placed' where they are now. haha

I must admit, that I can DEF get over the ugliness though;) :laughing:

Just wanted to add, that I think Vaginas are ugly too! hehe
( I could go on... but I could get bad :laughing:)

[xkwzit]

Consider it moved.

Cheers

[Blueberry Crumble]

Ive never seen a circed.

[Pax]

Ive never seen a circed.


google images is your friend :yes:

[kymmy]

All natural here in this house so I assume it looks best.

[Benji]

I have never seen an adult uncirc'd penis. Although I've felt one :o feels weird!

[jennababe]

i prefer uncirced.. and most men ive been with have been that way..

circ penises look like a helmet haha..:o

as for the feeling though.. i dont really think you can tell the difference..

and ermm.. am i the only one who doesnt think a penis is ugly!! hehehe...;)

[girly]

Consider it moved.

Cheers


Thanks, sorry again.

[Teley]

and ermm.. am i the only one who doesnt think a penis is ugly!! hehehe...;)

Nope! I've already posted saying I don't think they're ugly:yes:!

[Phyllis Stein]

Could you imagine a thread asking men if they prefer the look of circumsized women or not? We'd all be pretty turned off I think. :barf:

I find the whole idea of RIC a turn off, and I can't ignore that reality when I see a circed penis. On circed men, I see abnormally stretched tissue, and strangely textured skin. It looks scarred to me.

I do know from experience that sex with uncirced men is more pleasurable for me than with circed. Sex with circed men is similar to sex with a condom - no gliding action. My uncirced partners have told me that the gliding action of the foreskin gives them the most pleasure of anything.

[SassyMummy]

I've had sex with both uncirced and circed men... and I must admit, that even being an anti-circer, the best sex I've ever had is with my current bf... who is circed.

I'm not sure that the quality of sex, for me, depends on whether a man is circed or not. I just think he must be good in bed, and that we must be compatible when it comes to having sex (sounds weird, but I always thought I was pretty bad at certain sexual activities... but I'm not with the bf).

I dunno, maybe he would be better if he was circed, as in, if I tried him both ways (if I could) he'd feel better with foreskin... but I think the main difference is just about the person rather than their foreskin or lack thereof.

[misskittyfantastico]

Could you imagine a thread asking men if they prefer the look of circumsized women or not? We'd all be pretty turned off I think. :barf:

I find the whole idea of RIC a turn off, and I can't ignore that reality when I see a circed penis. On circed men, I see abnormally stretched tissue, and strangely textured skin. It looks scarred to me.

I do know from experience that sex with uncirced men is more pleasurable for me than with circed. Sex with circed men is similar to sex with a condom - no gliding action. My uncirced partners have told me that the gliding action of the foreskin gives them the most pleasure of anything.

Funnily enough, I agree.

[Phyllis Stein]

I've had sex with both uncirced and circed men... and I must admit, that even being an anti-circer, the best sex I've ever had is with my current bf... who is circed.

I'm not sure that the quality of sex, for me, depends on whether a man is circed or not. I just think he must be good in bed, and that we must be compatible when it comes to having sex (sounds weird, but I always thought I was pretty bad at certain sexual activities... but I'm not with the bf).

I dunno, maybe he would be better if he was circed, as in, if I tried him both ways (if I could) he'd feel better with foreskin... but I think the main difference is just about the person rather than their foreskin or lack thereof.

I'm talking purely about the mechanics of it. I agree that their skill in bed would change the quality of sex, regardless of circ status.

[reAllytee]

I can never really understand these types of threads.

I really just dont give a damn.

My God I have way better morals or whatever you want to call it than wondering whether I could be with someone who was circ'ed or not !

I actually prefer to like the person ...

Because errr sorry but I would rather look at a blank wall than look at any penis !

[NewBeginnings]

To be honest I think they are both completely ugly! :laughing:

[delirium]

I prefer circed, but if I hypothetically liked a guy that wasn't, it wouldn't turn me off or anything. There's been quite a few comments that circed penises are keratinised, with all tight scar tissue, etc over the last few days. :confused: I've only had one partner that wasn't circed, and I've never see a circed penis that is above described, ever, and without being vulgar, I've seen my share :laughing:

I dunno, maybe I've just been lucky with not seeing all these scarred men :D

[Pax]

I prefer circed, but if I hypothetically liked a guy that wasn't, it wouldn't turn me off or anything. There's been quite a few comments that circed penises are keratinised, with all tight scar tissue, etc over the last few days. :confused: I've only had one partner that wasn't circed, and I've never see a circed penis that is above described, ever, and without being vulgar, I've seen my share :laughing:

I dunno, maybe I've just been lucky with not seeing all these scarred men :D


Nope cant say I have seen a scarred one either!

The only uncirc'd dood i have been with, wore a condom so I cant say it was particularly different to a circed one.. I did discover tho i dont like condoms.. :no:

[Teley]

:confused:I don't understand why nearly everyone thinks penises are ugly?

They're part of someone's body.....Idk...I don't see how they are ugly. Sure I don't want to be staring at one all day, but how are they ugly?

[misskittyfantastico]

lol I just think there ugly - and don't get my started on the wrinkly balls:laughing:

*Nods emphatically* Penises as an object, really aren't aesthetically pleasing...they're...dangly and often giggle worthy.

[FiveInTheBed]

:confused:....

Maybe I should walk around the shops tomorrow having a peep down random guys pants to research...seriously what a weird thread!?!

I didn't vote...I think all penises are different, short, long, fat, thin, circ'd, uncirc'd, hairy , not hairy, wrinkly, dangly etc

I have some dangly wrinky hairy bits on my body too, and if I came across a thread in the for eg dad's section discussing those bits i'd be a bit cranky.

Does it really matter?

Are you gonna tell your kid he has a very handsome penis? :rolleyes:

[misskittyfantastico]

:confused:....

Maybe I should walk around the shops tomorrow having a peep down random guys pants to research...seriously what a weird thread!?!

I didn't vote...I think all penises are different, short, long, fat, thin, circ'd, uncirc'd, hairy , not hairy, wrinkly, dangly etc

I have some dangly wrinky hairy bits on my body too, and if I came across a thread in the for eg dad's section discussing those bits i'd be a bit cranky.

Does it really matter?

Are you gonna tell your kid he has a very handsome penis? :rolleyes:

Beautifully put!

[reAllytee]

:confused:....

Maybe I should walk around the shops tomorrow having a peep down random guys pants to research...seriously what a weird thread!?!

I didn't vote...I think all penises are different, short, long, fat, thin, circ'd, uncirc'd, hairy , not hairy, wrinkly, dangly etc

I have some dangly wrinky hairy bits on my body too, and if I came across a thread in the for eg dad's section discussing those bits i'd be a bit cranky.

Does it really matter?

Are you gonna tell your kid he has a very handsome penis? :rolleyes:

:iagree:



Beautifully put!


Yes much better than me in my juiced up state trying to deal with bloomin wisdom teeth & cracked teeth :crying::banghead:

My brain is confused as to whether im supposed to feel 'happy', angry, pain or cry LOL !

[Phyllis Stein]

I prefer circed, but if I hypothetically liked a guy that wasn't, it wouldn't turn me off or anything. There's been quite a few comments that circed penises are keratinised, with all tight scar tissue, etc over the last few days. :confused: I've only had one partner that wasn't circed, and I've never see a circed penis that is above described, ever, and without being vulgar, I've seen my share :laughing:

I dunno, maybe I've just been lucky with not seeing all these scarred men :D

All circed penises are scarred & keritanised, but it's invisible to most people because the circed penis was the 'norm' in our generation, so we don't realise what we're looking at.


:confused:....

Maybe I should walk around the shops tomorrow having a peep down random guys pants to research...seriously what a weird thread!?!

I didn't vote...I think all penises are different, short, long, fat, thin, circ'd, uncirc'd, hairy , not hairy, wrinkly, dangly etc

I have some dangly wrinky hairy bits on my body too, and if I came across a thread in the for eg dad's section discussing those bits i'd be a bit cranky.

Does it really matter?

Are you gonna tell your kid he has a very handsome penis? :rolleyes:

I see your point and I agree. However, when people start using aesthetics to justify permanent, body-altering surgery on their child, I feel an obligation to comment. Like everything, our tastes in these matters are culturally conditioned to an extent.

[stellarella]

I'm not answering because it makes no difference what I think looks better. I don't give a rats what looks better....they probably look about the same.

Honestly, I am going to try and say this as tactfully as possible.....to project ones own sexual preferences onto your infant son is sick in the extreme.

I am almost more horrified that a boys foreskin is removed because of his parents sexual preferences than I am of it being removed in the first place.

What on earth do our preferences have to do with our sons? We will not be gazing upon his penis from the POV of his lover.

Imagine if I said I was having a labioplasty performed on my daughter because I preferred the look of a Playboy labia.

[Jakois]

I'm not answering because it makes no difference what I think looks better. I don't give a rats what looks better....they probably look about the same.

Honestly, I am going to try and say this as tactfully as possible.....to project ones own sexual preferences onto your infant son is sick in the extreme.

I am almost more horrified that a boys foreskin is removed because of his parents sexual preferences than I am of it being removed in the first place.

What on earth do our preferences have to do with our sons? We will not be gazing upon his penis from the POV of his lover.

Imagine if I said I was having a labioplasty performed on my daughter because I preferred the look of a Playboy labia.

:yelclap::iagree::yelclap::iagree:

Perfectly put!!!

[pinkgingham]

well i would love my partner regardless, but personally i prefer a uncirced penis. that includes looking at one, i dont really see penis' as ugly in their natural state. but i do when they are circumcised and all dry and keratinised, to me thats unnatural.

[mumofKieran]

I'm not answering because it makes no difference what I think looks better. I don't give a rats what looks better....they probably look about the same.

Honestly, I am going to try and say this as tactfully as possible.....to project ones own sexual preferences onto your infant son is sick in the extreme.

I am almost more horrified that a boys foreskin is removed because of his parents sexual preferences than I am of it being removed in the first place.

What on earth do our preferences have to do with our sons? We will not be gazing upon his penis from the POV of his lover.

Imagine if I said I was having a labioplasty performed on my daughter because I preferred the look of a Playboy labia.

I could not agree more. What my son's future partner may/may not prefer did not even enter my head when we made our decision to leave him uncircumcised.

[PrincessDani]

I'm not answering because it makes no difference what I think looks better. I don't give a rats what looks better....they probably look about the same.

Honestly, I am going to try and say this as tactfully as possible.....to project ones own sexual preferences onto your infant son is sick in the extreme.

I am almost more horrified that a boys foreskin is removed because of his parents sexual preferences than I am of it being removed in the first place.

What on earth do our preferences have to do with our sons? We will not be gazing upon his penis from the POV of his lover.

Imagine if I said I was having a labioplasty performed on my daughter because I preferred the look of a Playboy labia.
I didnt think the thread was about that tho? Isn't it about what we prefer in men??? Because thats what I was answering! How I feel about a penis or sex with a man has nothing to do with any decision I make regarding any future children I may have. I would imagine that everyone here feels the same. Maybe you've misread the thread:)

[delirium]

I am almost more horrified that a boys foreskin is removed because of his parents sexual preferences than I am of it being removed in the first place.



:confused: I thought this thread was about what we preferred to see on a male partner? I certainly didn't think there were comments that placed our sexual preference onto our sons, at least I didn't read it that way. The 'look' of a circed penis played no bearing on why we circed.

Lets not make assumptions :shakehands:, it leads to fights and threads being closed.

[stellarella]

I'm sorry I guess I did presume :o
I guess because it's a parenting forum in the discuss it section of the circumcision forum and the OP has mentioned she is having it done because it looks better.

I do apologise, carry on :o

[Benji]

Hmm yes I also thought it was what we preferred on men.

I do understand that what we prefer on grown men shouldn't influence our decision with our baby boys though :yes:

[PrincessDani]

I'm sorry I guess I did presume :o
I guess because it's a parenting forum in the discuss it section of the circumcision forum and the OP has mentioned she is having it done because it looks better.

I do apologise, carry on :o
Thats ok, I think its obviously something you feel passionately about and you saw red! I know I've half read a thread before and thought OMG, its just lucky i was too shy to post:laughing:.

[girly]

:confused: I thought this thread was about what we preferred to see on a male partner? I certainly didn't think there were comments that placed our sexual preference onto our sons, at least I didn't read it that way. The 'look' of a circed penis played no bearing on why we circed.

Lets not make assumptions :shakehands:, it leads to fights and threads being closed.

Yehnh, I wasnt asking women it they thought it looked better on their sons. Thats just gross.
I just think it looks better off, but also saying that thats not a valid reason to have it removed but was just saying I think it looks better off, & what do other people think. Thats all, In didnt want everyone to take it the wrong way but thats generally what happens in forums.:laughing:
But its somehtings that also involves a child and there are many many mothers on the site so I can see why some asumme things...

[mumofKieran]

Sorry, my mistake too. That's what you get for not reading the thread properly :)

[Milliner]

I prefer a natural, unscarred penis.

[AM]

Well the look of a penis circ/uncirc is completely irrelevant as this is purely and simply a human rights issue...babies CANNOT give their consent.

Polling about appearance really trivialises the issue I think. :no:

[stellarella]

Polling about appearance really trivialises the issue I think. :no:

Yes I agree.

I understand that this thread is about our preferences as adults, but seeing as at some point every circed man had to go through the procedure - and the majority would have been babies - it is very hard to leave RIC out of it.

The issues are inextricably linked.

And it is difficult to see it being trivialised and not be upset about it.

[delirium]

I understand that this thread is about our preferences as adults, but seeing as at some point every circed man had to go through the procedure - and the majority would have babies - it is very hard to leave RIC out of it.

The issues are inextricably linked.


To you, because you are so passionate on the subject, you see a link between preferences on adults and RIC, but others don't. I respect your opinion, but I'm wondering, are we over analysing this thread? These two issues don't need to be linked. I seen it more as a fluff thread rather than any serious discussion about RIC. *shrugs*

[stellarella]

I don't consider the issue of circumcision "fluff" to be honest. I take it quite seriously.
Am I the only one? I would have hoped even those who circumcise take it quite seriously.

We don't get many "fluff" threads in the Circumcision forum either. Maybe if it was started in the friends chat section perhaps.....

Anyway doesn't matter what section it was started in. The issues are inextricably linked, how can they not be linked?

[AM]

I don't consider the issue of circumcision "fluff" to be honest. I take it quite seriously.
Am I the only one? I would have hoped even those who circumcise take it quite seriously.

The issues are inextricably linked, how can they not be linked?

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

[delirium]

*sighs* fair enough, they are inextricably linked then. All I'm saying is not every thread needs to be a crusade.

[stellarella]

*sighs* fair enough, they are inextricably linked then. All I'm saying is not every thread needs to be a crusade.

For this particular subject and for me personally it does. I have to take every opportunity that arises to express my views on the subject and try to implement change, even it only spares one infant. I'm not really concerned that it annoys people, or what they think of me because the issue is far bigger than me :thumbsup:

[shed]

Well, I am a product of my generation, so I prefer circed on a grown man, and my DH is circed.

However, the women of my sons generation will be more accustomed to seeing uncirced and he is uncirced.

When faced with a choice between appearance and sexual pleasure I am pretty sure men would choose the latter anyway, but of course they will never know the difference if the choice has been made for them.

Both are fugly anyway so might as well have the one that feels the best.

[Fuchsia!]

For this particular subject and for me personally it does. I have to take every opportunity that arises to express my views on the subject and try to implement change, even it only spares one infant. I'm not really concerned that it annoys people, or what they think of me because the issue is far bigger than me :thumbsup:

:iagree: And Ella you are doing a great job getting the word out there, i wish there were more of you out there :sunshine:

[FishFace]

I think there is nothing more beautiful then the human body.


Even more attractive to me is an unmarked human body. I am not into piercings, tattoos or missing bits lol.

I like hubby just as he is...uncut.

[delirium]

For this particular subject and for me personally it does. I have to take every opportunity that arises to express my views on the subject and try to implement change, even it only spares one infant. I'm not really concerned that it annoys people, or what they think of me because the issue is far bigger than me :thumbsup:

I'm very passionately against abortion. I don't get on every termination thread carefully wording my posts that they are bad mums and are uniformed :ecomcity: I respect the fact that they have a right to their own opinion, even if I disagree.

The thing is, members and guests at BH who have a son will have already decided about a circ, and IME those that don't have a boy, have already decided too. People don't need to be 'converted', most have already made their decision.

[Duchessa]

Eeeek! What a topic for a poll. Kinda like saying do you prefer a hand with it's fingers left on or chopped off? Stellarella made a good point - you cannot separate the act of surgical modification from the visual. Much the same as I prefer dairy cows and fox terriers with their tails undocked (oh and it is illegal to chop them off), I prefer that men don't need to have their foreskins removed either. Eeek!

[FishFace]

I'm very passionately against abortion. I don't get on every termination thread carefully wording my posts that they are bad mums and are uniformed :ecomcity: I respect the fact that they have a right to their own opinion, even if I disagree.

The thing is, members and guests at BH who have a son will have already decided about a circ, and IME those that don't have a boy, have already decided too. People don't need to be 'converted', most have already made their decision.

I dont know though..
I started on BH when DS was tiny and I was all for Circ...then I read...and read and some of the women on here taught me a new thing or two.

I have learnt heaps on here thanks to passionate women who fight to get others informed.
If they have already made a decision then they can just ignore those that are passionate.

But I think those that have the courage to constantly speak up, are informing and teaching everyday.

[naiwen]

This thread makes me feel ill :barf:.

Anyone who puts their child through pain and genital modification just for asthetic reasons or due to their own sexual preferences :confused: is odd IMO.

[Fuchsia!]

I dont know though..
I started on BH when DS was tiny and I was all for Circ...then I read...and read and some of the women on here taught me a new thing or two.

I have learnt heaps on here thanks to passionate women who fight to get others informed.
If they have already made a decision then they can just ignore those that are passionate.

But I think those that have the courage to constantly speak up, are informing and teaching everyday.
Totally agree. Even though the thought of circing made me feel sick, it was still in the back of my mind to get DS2 done. Im so glad that i have entered into these discussions as i have learnt so much from it.

In a way i wish i didn't know though, as ignorance is bliss. I wish i didn't know all the horrors that came with it.

But knowledge is power :thumbsup:

[*babygirl*]

:laughing: i've seen both... and none look particularly great lol..

but (TMI) im particularly fond of DP's and i think its sexy:p certainly does it for me:laughing:

[naiwen]

I don't think thats what people are saying. Some may find a circ'd penis more attractive that doesn't mean they will get there son's circ'd because of there sexual preferences I agree that would be odd. But not is what being said in this thread!!!

The thread was a simple question - What do YOU find more attractive. Not -
What do YOU find more attractive therefore circ'ing your son because of what YOU find attractive.

I know but - some people do state asthetics as a reason why they circ KWIM.

But even contemplating whether I would find a modified penis attractive makes me feel a bit :barf:

[FishFace]

I don't think thats what people are saying. Some may find a circ'd penis more attractive that doesn't mean they will get there son's circ'd because of there sexual preferences I agree that would be odd. But not is what being said in this thread!!!

The thread was a simple question - What do YOU find more attractive. Not -
What do YOU find more attractive therefore circ'ing your son because of what YOU find attractive.


But the OP did list this as one of the reasons she would get it done.

[Duchessa]

I am hanging out for the day that this poll will attract an equal amount of outrage that a poll asking "What do you think looks better, FGM* or no FGM?".

[FishFace]

From another thread...


It seems circumsion is a very hot topic on bubhub.. I'm circumsizing my son only becoz it looks better than having a penis that looks like an ant eater. Oh and dh said its cleaner..



No she didn't. She said it looks better off but doesn't see that as a valid reason to get circ'd.

[FishFace]

That isn't in this thread. I was only going by what was in THIS thread. So you have researched her preference to back yourself up fair enough. I stand corrected the OP is circ'ing because of her sexual preference.

I'll speak for myself though where I may think circ penis's look slightly better I would never circ any son I had because I found it more attractive:no:


nooooo I didnt research ..I am not attacking you at all. I think alot of us just read the other thread and that is why we replied to this one the same way.


Wasnt putting there tomake you feel silly hun..just to show why people were linking this back to circ of bubbas..:hugs::hugs:

[Ana Gram]

They are functional, not a work of art. And when being used for sexual function, they all look similar anyway.
Also there are many other parts of the body that aren't objects of beauty, like elbows and knees but they don't affect the beauty of the individual person.

[girly]

Yes, I know its not a valid reason having said that.

I think adult penis look better circ.

As for my son(if I have one) He will be circumsed seeings DH is and wants it done, says it cleaner, better looing and our religion considers it a MUST.

[Mamalicious]

As for my son(if I have one) He will be circumsed seeings DH is and wants it done, says it cleaner, better looing and our religion considers it a MUST.

No it doesn't...research enough, and you'll find that it's not a must to be circumcised if you're Muslim. It is a must to be clean, not circ'd.

If I'd known that, and been strong enough to fight my point against people who did it 'just cos we're Muslim' my son would still have his entire penis to do with what he will.

It's very easy to hide behind religion and say "We have to" without researching it...you don't HAVE to, but it's easier to, when there's a big group of people who will tell you you're wrong if you don't circ. :cool:

[girly]

No it doesn't...research enough, and you'll find that it's not a must to be circumcised if you're Muslim. It is a must to be clean, not circ'd

WHAT!!. Yes it is. Excuse me, By the sound of things you know nothing about Muslim religion. Im not even going to argue against this seeings I know what is right. As for a Turkish Muslim the child is done. Its called Sünnet, and its a 'good thing' Not bad.

Though saying that I know some Muslims/Turks who havnt done their children, but they arent religious and thats why its not important to them. :(

[Mamalicious]

WHAT!!. Yes it is. Excuse me, By the sound of things you know nothing about Muslim religion. Im not even going to argue against this seeings I know what is right. As for a Turkish Muslim the child is done. Its called Sünnet, and its a 'good thing' Not bad.

Though saying that I know some Muslims/Turks who havnt done their children, but they arent religious and thats why its not important to them. :(

You don't have to argue, but there's nothing wrong with researching it. And there's absolutely no point squawking at people about how it's the only way to do it within the religion when you refuse to educate yourself on it.

And you don't know that they're not religious. ;)

[girly]

You don't have to argue, but there's nothing wrong with researching it. And there's absolutely no point squawking at people about how it's the only way to do it within the religion when you refuse to educate yourself on it.

And you don't know that they're not religious. ;)

I'm talking about people I know. & I will say it again, It is a must in Islam, the man isnt a 'proper' Muslim until he is circumsised. So where did you find this information saying its not a must. Ide really LOVeee to see it.:yes:

[Mamalicious]

I'm talking about people I know. & I will say it again, It is a must in Islam, the man isnt a 'proper' Muslim until he is circumsised. So where did you find this information saying its not a must. Ide really LOVeee to see it.:yes:

Which one? :laughing: I've been reading about it since my boy was done.

Here's one (http://www.convertingtoislam.com/circum.html)


The Holy Qur'an does not impose an obligation on parents to circumcise their children, but the prophet Mohammed is reported to have stated that "Circumcision is a sunnah (customary or traditional) for the men. Most references to male circumcision occur in the examples and traditions of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Therefore the scholars strongly recommend circumcision for male.

"Customary" "Traditional" "Strongly recommend"...

If you believe that you have to circumcise a future son and it's ok with you, THEN GO FOR YOUR LIFE!!!

But if you don't agree with it, then read up.

I don't care what you do with your sons penis, but my son was circumcised against my will so to prevent that happening again, I did my research.

And you don't get to say who is and isn't a proper Muslim, God does, not you!

[girly]

[quote=Mamalicious;3184984]If you believe that you have to circumcise a future son and it's ok with you, THEN GO FOR YOUR LIFE!!!/quote]


In that quote you pasted. Even I could have said that. That isnt valid in this discussion. Its traditional and thats why its done. The boy is praised and will be a man. Ive known this my whole life growing up in this culture its expected to do it!

I feel for you seeings you had it happen agaisnt your will, but if you are with a Muslim man didnt you talk about it with him. Muslims are all against it. If the mother of the child has an issue then her word is listened to. Its wrong if they didnt let you have a say in it. That isnt right, and again 'proper' Muslims wont do something the mother of child doesnt agree on. But it can be rare. Its the fathers family who have more of a say.

[Mamalicious]

I feel for you seeings you had it happen agaisnt your will, but if you are with a Muslim man didnt you talk about it with him.

Nope. I was told it would be done, and if I didn't do it he would have done it behind my back, and who knows what kind of butchery he would have been subjected to.

[xkwzit]

Closed at OP request.