Immunisation

[EDIOH]

Hi all,

Another one from my partner.

He would like to know what your thoughts are on immunisation?

Yes/No/Dont Know/Dont care?

I dont want this to turn into a hot debate or anything. Just wanting to hear others people point of view.

[misskittyfantastico]

Firstly, congrats on your non-smoking status!
My DD is fully immunised and honestly, before joining Bub Hub I was pretty naive as to why parents choose not to immunise. I now understand that it is an incredibly well thought out and researched decison. I will continue to immunise my child. I believe that we are ALL doing what we think to be the best thing for our children.

[Smurfette]

I have Olivia fully immunisated and it never entered my head not to. I don't know all the reasons ( I have a vague idea) why others don't, but I have always seen it as a personal decision.

[kymmy]

my girl was routinely immunised
by a wonderful child health nurse
my first boy was immunised by the council
at a year old he developed eczema
i believe brought on by the new needle

hubby and i did not want to subject our new baby
to the same suffering
ie. severe eczema
he hasn't had any of his needles
i do think it is important
but i stay undecided
until i feel more comfortable
as well as organised.....
whenever that will be.....:(

[leenaomi]

It never occurred to me NOT to immunise my DD but I do know people who refuse to after doing their own thorough research. Their reasons are very valid, as well. Either way, it has to be an informed decision.

BTW, do you all know about the Immunisation Allowance that you get when bub turns 19 months? I only just found out about it when $400.00 miraculously appeared in my account the other day! (I'm in QLD.)

[Sarie]

Yep both boys are fully immunised as will the next one. We don't believe it is worth the risk not too.
Especially when you look overseas at coutries that have gone away from immunisation and are now having out breaks of these horrid diseases that are so easy to prevent.

[FourAngelKisses]

BTW, do you all know about the Immunisation Allowance that you get when bub turns 19 months? I only just found out about it when $400.00 miraculously appeared in my account the other day! (I'm in QLD.)

In NSW they were only giving us about $170, sounds like we are getting ripped off down here.

[kymmy]

BTW, do you all know about the Immunisation Allowance that you get when bub turns 19 months? I only just found out about it when $400.00 miraculously appeared in my account the other day! (I'm in QLD.)

In NSW they were only giving us about $170, sounds like we are getting ripped off down here.


It is about $200 in Vic

[FourAngelKisses]

I thought it would be the same in each state as it is paid to us by Centrelink. Strange!!


Edited to add : Just checked, it has gone up to $222 here.

[QTB]

my son is fully immunised to date, but he will not be recieveing all of the imms. (the MMR) i did alot of research on imms and the risks associated with MMR are just too much for my liking. BUT in saying that, it is every parents choice to do it or not! :)

my poor baby has had sooo many imms, hes had new zealand ones and now he has to have aussie ones :( wahhhh

[annsam]

My son has been partly vaxed while I do research on some that Im not comfortable with. He is 20 months and has not yet had his 12 month vax or anything beyond. I have researched thoroughly and made up my mind now about what to do and he will be having his MMR next week.

[reAllytee]

Bubs has been fully vaxxed & finally got his 12mth vax so that included the MMR to which i did worry about the reactions to this etc but the more i looked into it & talked with doctors & nurses i knew all would be fine as bubs has had eggs with no dramas which is usually where a reaction occurs due to them using egg products in the vax.
I had reactions to my vax as a baby but all my parents & doctor did was give me half doses each time which took longer yes but meant i was totally vaxxed in all.
It was never an option for me not to vax due to my mum having polio & knowing a lot of ins & outs of it all since i was little.

[jessgray]

my Ds has had all his vaccinations except the 12 month ones. i went last week to go get him done and i was late and they had closed :laughing: so most likely next week he will get jabbed.

[StormAngel]

My 4 kids have all been fully vaccinated and never had any problems with them.

[Bubbamamma]

My little man just got his 8 week jabs and, even though he has been very grizzly since, I will be making sure he is fully immunised. Like you, Allyoo, I had a family member with polio (in my case, my darling grandmother), so saw firsthand what these diseases can do...

[MilkOnTap]

When we have children we will have them immunised - ONLY because finding a childcare centre that would accept un-immunised (a la naturale) children would become problematic. :no:

[the_queen]

Never received any money for deciding to vaccinate my children and indeed have had to pay for their catch ups (UK have different schedule) and for my own.

Has anyone else heard about the vaccination for Uterine Cancer, still being tested etc but available soon.
Interesting to see if this is one non vaxxers would give their children and or themselves, and I'm not being sarcastic or nasty. Cancer is a huge killer and I just wonder if this risk outways concerns about vaccine content or potential side effects. Guess we'll have to await final testing results. :fingerscrossed:


Is that the cervical cancer vaccine you're talking about? Actually not a vaccine against cancer, per se, but against HPV, the Human Pappiloma (sp?) Virus, which is one cause of cervical cancer.

I will not be having this vaccine, nor will I be having any daughters of mine vaccinated against it. If they choose to do so when they are adults, then that is their choice. HPV is a sexually transmitted disease and therefore I don't think it's an issue that I will personally need to worry about, nor will I be worried about it for my daughters.

[p4purple]

Hi

have have just copied and pasted this from another post of mine.

Hi Ladies

I am pregnant with my first child and I am very seriously thinking about being a non-vaxer. I know that for sure there will be no jabs at birth. I have been researching with gusto so as to be well informed. This thread has bought up so many interesting issues:

- To vax or not to vax and if so when
- What are the possible adverse reactions and side effects from vaccines to watch out for
- Why are we as a society into mass vaccinations and is it fulled by big business and pharmacetical companies
- How as parents do we deal with the objections from other parents and professionals such as doctors and nurses, schools and day care and conscientious objection forms
- What are the natural alternatives to vaccination and how can we buildup our childs natural immune system to cope with childhood diseases

I have read an excellent book that covers alot of the above issues: WELL ADJUSTED BABIES by Dr Jennifer Barham-Floreani

The following websites are also supportive of non-vaxers:

http://thinktwice.com/

http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/

http://www.avn.org.au/

You can not research comprehensively without looking at the FOR argument:

www.immunise.health.gov.au/faq.htm

Some other points that I would like to raise -
- Some of the adverse reactions come not from the disease but from the preservative in the Vaccine. Additives include: Formaldehyde, Mecury, Aluminium, animal viruses (chickens, monkeys, rats and cows), genetically modified animal and plant cells, aborted human foetus cells and antibiotics. Why are we jabbing our kids with over 2000 times the 'safe limit' of mecury before they are 2 years old?
- There is no national data base in Australia that reports adverse reactions to vaccines
- Is the rise in child hood alergies, neurological disorders such as ADHD or autism attributed to the increase in vaccinations? (currently 1 in 100 Aust. children is falling with in the autism spectrum compared with 1 in 10 000 only 15 years ago)
- If they told us that asbestos and Thalidomide was safe, how can we trust that vaccines are?
- How do we cope with the guilt of not vaccinating when our child contracts a disease like the measels or whooping cough? Are they building natural immunity or are we inflicting needless pain onto them because of our own beliefs? How can we develop our own confidence and surround ourself with supportive care givers?
- In the USA the federal govt has paid out to the National Vacine Injury Compensation Program over $834 million to parents and families of vaccine injured children and those who have died. Japan discontinued compulsory vac's in 1994 after the gov't saw the potential for disaster with liability for compensation. That is why in Aust, our govt will never make them compulsory.

Sorry for the length post ... as a mum to be I have so many questions to ask and they usually only bring up more questions. Thankgod for this supportive thread. It is a very emotive subject to bring up with friends or family and I have decided in the future to shaft that convo and have faith in my own beliefs.

[Pixie]

Eliza is nearly 3 months old but we're not immunisng her until she is 2 years old.

[sam's mum]

The immunisation allowance is a federal payment - so the state you are in does not effect how much you receive. It is effected by when your child was born though. If your child was born after 1 January 2003 it is currently $222.30 and is paid when your child is 18 mths old and has had all their immunisations. If a person is a conscientious (sp) objector they can sign a declaration and still receive the payment. If your child is stillborn or passes away before this age you can still claim this payment before their '2nd birthday'.
If your child was born before 1 January 2003 you receive a different amount because it is a portion of the old baby bonus.
The payment is not income or asset tested either.

[~EmsMum~]

i immunise! :thumbsup:

[FourAngelKisses]

i immunise! :thumbsup:

Me too. I'd rather have my kids cry for 5 seconds than die from an illness.

[Mischief]

We are immunising Oliver.....we weighed up the risk of side effects against the risk of illness and decided that we would sooner take the risk of side effects, that at least we could monitor him...sooner than him contracting something that could make him very sick or even die.

[SuperWoman]

We are immunising Oliver.....we weighed up the risk of side effects against the risk of illness and decided that we would sooner take the risk of side effects, that at least we could monitor him...sooner than him contracting something that could make him very sick or even die.

Same here!!

[Sarie]

Me too. I'd rather have my kids cry for 5 seconds than die from an illness.
couldn't have put it better myself.:yes:

[WizzFizz]

Me too. I'd rather have my kids cry for 5 seconds than die from an illness.

I totally agree! :)

[my_lot]

i immunise

even after having my first react to the 2 month needles and being given an exemption for all others- i still had her immunised ( in hospital )

she got pneumococcal at 19 months and nearly died. there is now an vaccine available for this and is on the free list for babies. i had to pay for my other two to have it.

my three kids have also had the menjugate ( meningococcal c) and varivax ( chicken pox) both of which i had to pay for as well.

id rather pay for the vaccine than pay for the disease with my childs life.

[AM]

I am a complete non-vaxer, after long detailed research into the issue.

[AppleBlossym]

I am a complete non-vaxer, after long detailed research into the issue.

Me too:thumbsup:

[Tannie]

I believe 100% in vaccination and both my kids are fully vaccinated.....we haven't had any problems so far besides a little bit of crying for a few minutes and a sore lump after the 12 months pneumococcal one for a few days -small price to pay for peace of mind IMO.........the MMR / Autism link has been soundly DISPROVEN - in fact in the Danish retrospective study they found MORE autism in non-vaccinated kids!! Then only last week they found that the Placentas of autistic children had differences to children who didn't develop autism...so more then ever they are thinking it is something "in utero" that occurs.........do a search and you'll find there is currently a measles epidemic in the UK because vacc rates have dropped so dramatically since all the silliness over the MMR.......children are dying and suffering and it's really bad apparently. I have a nurse friend who works in a childrens hosp and she says the number of measles cases is frightening over the past 12 months.

Say what you like......but I'm sorry - I don't believe that it's in anyones childrens best interests to not be vaccinated and those of you who don't are just darn lucky there are so many of us that do it - cause our kids are protecting yours :fingerscrossed:

I'm not a believer of conspiricy theories either though I guess :no:
T

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